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Dec. 28, 2020 - Bannon's War Room
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Ep 615: Zuckerberg Funded These Fraudulent Election(w/ Raheem Kassam, Jack Maxey, Phill Kline)
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Well the virus has now killed more than 100 people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
So you don't want to frighten the American public.
France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
That this is going to be a real serious problem.
France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than a hundred possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
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We have to prepare for the worst, always, because if you don't and the worst happens, War Room.
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Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
Fight for Trump!
Fight for Trump!
Welcome to the War Room.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Welcome to the War Room.
Listen, one of the reasons that we have brutal talks with our audience and people in the live chat, hashtag warandpandemic, thedonald.win, is that, you know, you guys are partners.
You combine with others to make the most powerful, you know, the new federal state, the whistleblower movement, to make the most powerful audience in all of media.
This is why we've had such a big impact so far.
But we don't want to, you know, happy talk you.
These are tough times.
The saying, there are decades in which nothing happens, there are weeks in which decades happen.
I think it's, help me out Rahim, the Greek, it's chronos and kairos.
Chronos is sequential time, kairos is inflection points where those moments in time that if you pull it together and hit, You actually drive history, not just respond to history.
That's the moment we're in now and we have to be united and we have to be focused.
And part of that is to focus on, remember, let's go back to the triage.
Number one is obviously to close on the massive victory that President Trump and conservatives and populists and Republicans had throughout the nation.
But to close on the presidency, which is obviously, in my mind, as I look at the math, stolen.
Hey, I've looked at the evidence, and as an American, I come down on that, that there's overwhelming evidence that's been stolen, absent even any issues with the Dominion and the Smartmatic, which I think will take investigations and may take months, years, to come to some conclusion about that.
I think there's more than enough evidence on the others.
Number two is to make sure that Biden and what Biden stands for is completely held up to be illegitimate and illegal.
And on that one, we're winning bigly, right?
We're winning bigly with all the suppression by the tech oligarchs and the mainstream media.
Even Jonathan Swan saying, hey, this guy's on a lonely, I think he quoted, he's on a lonely island right now.
He's on a lonely island because everybody understands that this thing was stolen.
OK, and that can't be suppressed.
The American people's common sense indecency.
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Pick that.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
The third is to help form this new awakening that is out there.
That's not the Republican Party.
This is a nationalistic, populist movement of people that are just tired of it and don't want to take it anymore.
Okay?
And that's what we're seeing.
I understand there's some frustration as this thing's aborting.
And guess what?
Nobody said it's going to be easy.
In fact, it's going to be incredibly hard.
But you want to look at what incredibly hard is?
I would hope That everybody in this audience takes the time, and particularly Play for Your Kids, go back to our Christmas Day special, The Combat History of Christmas.
Why do we do that?
It's not that, hey, crazy, we can't have Christmas, we've got to have war on Christmas.
No, it's to show in those times in American history, at Trenton, on America's first Christmas, which was our darkest Christmas in 1776, At Bastogne, and when World War II could have still been lost, according to Patton, right?
At Bastogne, and the Battle of the Bulge, and then at the Chosin Reservoir, where young men, essentially Marines, untrained, ill-equipped Marines, were essentially sent to die, right?
The heroism of the American fighting man and woman.
In standing up in its darkest times.
And look, that's where we are right now.
And you've got to stand and you've got to fight.
And I realize that it's very frustrating.
People say, well, hey, I gave money.
I went door to door.
I went to the rallies.
I did everything.
And we won.
And here we are in late December and we can't even get a venue.
So I want to go to Raheem Kassam and Jack Maxson and get your thoughts.
And then we'll come back and get thoughts on the veto and where this COVID bill stands and where the House is meeting today to override Trump's veto of the National Defense Authorization Act.
raheem kassam ▲ ● ▼
I just want to conclude that quote from earlier from Thomas Paine as well, right?
The beginning part is, by perseverance and fortitude we have the prospect of a glorious issue, by cowardice and submission the sad choice of a variety of evils.
It goes on, a ravaged country, a depopulated city, habitations without safety, slavery without hope, homes turned into barracks and bawdy houses for Hessians.
and a future race to provide for whose fathers we shall doubt of look on this picture and weep over it and if there yet remains one thoughtless wretch who believes it not let him suffer it unlamented right and that is the point you will suffer it unlamented if you do not get in their faces if you do not i'm hearing a lot of hey we're not being told what the next step is You don't get told what the next step is.
You are the next step, right?
January 6th is a real thing, and it is my opinion that every- and listen, credit where it's due, credit to all the people who have exhausted, and perhaps they haven't been fully exhausted, but who have gone along exhausting every legal avenue, every type of thing that could have been done, has been done.
Tell me there isn't the evidence.
You can't, because there is.
There's multiple websites.
There's everylegalvote.com.
There's hereistheevidence.com.
You know, it's all over revolver.news, the National Pulse.
The evidence is there.
Believe me, people, nobody has been asleep at the wheel.
Right?
But here's the deal now.
If the system is so corrupt and remains so corrupted that the last point that the Constitution provides for is January the 6th, and it does, Then everybody needs to let the Vice President know right now to stiffen his sinews and summon up the blood.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Well I think, hold on, I think there's a couple things right now before we get to the VP and we ought to get it up.
Let's get Denver to Cameron and team and Carlos to get it up.
Kemp, and people say, why am I sending these in?
But look, you saw in Pennsylvania the other day, we flipped those guys that come down to the President, and now they're all saying, you've got to call a special session.
Kemp, Perdue, and Loeffler.
You've got to get to those campaigns.
You've got to get to their emails.
You've got to call them on the phones that are listed as their official phones.
And you've got to tell them, we need a special session.
You need to stand for Trump.
You need to fight for Trump.
Because in fighting for Trump, you're fighting for the Constitution.
The intense pressure has got to come on Kemp.
It's got to come on Perdue.
It's got to come on Loeffler.
And in Arizona, it's got to come on Ducey.
You don't even need to do the House and the Senate there.
Just Ducey.
You don't need to do the House and the Senate in Georgia right now.
You need to do Kemp.
The country needs a formal vetting of this in a venue that allows the Democrats and allows the media to go at this as officially presented.
Jack Maxey.
jack maxey ▲ ● ▼
I think fundamentally that there are just so many Americans, not just deplorables, I think this cuts across party lines, who feel as if they've been betrayed.
And they feel as if they've been betrayed on a fundamental level.
We live in a democratic republic where our actual votes are what determine our government.
And I believe That you're seeing just a growing response across the country.
This absolute frustration that our leadership is not standing up for the American people.
And I think, I've said this many times, I think it's fundamental that we hold these people responsible for the oaths that they took before God to defend the Constitution of the United States of America against all enemies Foreign and domestic.
Particularly when I look at Georgia and I see some of these elected leaders down there.
I think that the people of Georgia have to remind them that history weighs heavily in Georgia.
Their family names are going to go down in history.
As people who betrayed the citizens of Georgia, hold their feet to the fire.
Do not let up for one minute.
Call, write, email.
This fight is not over, people.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
By the way, if you're comfortable with the corporate interests having more influence than they should have, then you're just going to sit back and say, hey, this is terrible, it's not going to happen.
You've got to fight.
You've got to fight.
One of the ways you fight is you put pressure on these guys.
This is why, you know, I love Mike Flynn, but I always said, I don't think we need to declare martial law in Georgia.
Georgia is basically Republicans.
It's a Republican House, it's a Republican Senate, it's the Republican administration.
You've got to show the system works in that regard.
You've got to put pressure on them.
And look, the counter-pressure, the behind-the-scenes pressure, is the money pressure.
Guys tell them, hey, this is not going to be an international city.
Atlanta's a world city since it put on the Olympics.
Right?
It's all that.
So we have up there right now, is that Kemp and is that what we're putting up?
So we're putting up on the screen for our podcast audience and for our radio audience, we're putting up on the screen right now the contact information for Kemp and we've got to get it up for Senator Perdue and Senator LaFleur.
I still think it's not acceptable.
And I'm sure their polling's telling them something different.
I'm sure their polling's telling them, hey, what we can't do is stand up for Trump because the trade-off between the deplorable showing up in mass and the mythic, the mythic, the mythic suburban independent, you know, the suburban college-educated woman that would vote for us is the trade-off.
We can't look like we're standing up for Trump and it can't look like we're trying to decertify the Biden vote.
We'll lose it.
I have, if that's your polling, I would say, You know, I get a pretty good track record on that.
I think it's dead wrong, but hey, who am I?
I'm just another schmendrick.
You know, go with what your consultants say.
I happen to think that that is dead wrong.
If you don't get a massive turnout of the Trump base, and right now you're just not going to get it, you're not going to get it.
Not because people are saying, hey, we shouldn't win the Senate.
We understand the importance of that.
We just said from day one, the way you do that is standing and those voices you heard were Georgia voices.
We play that fight for Trump because that came exactly from these rallies in Georgia, by Georgia citizens, Georgia patriots, who, and this is when you're up on stage, you notice, I would take that as kind of a heckle and a boo.
When you're up there, Kelly Loeffler with Ivanka, and Ivanka gave a power speech, and she gets you up there, and you're just drowned out by that.
That is not a source of, should not be a source of comfort for you.
And you can't, you know, do the Nixon wave, the victory sign, and say, yeah, I'm fighting for him.
Well, they want to know, they want to get into the details.
They want to see the receipts.
Jack Maxey.
jack maxey ▲ ● ▼
Also in Georgia, the sheriffs have a constitutional obligation on election day to make sure that that election is fair and held properly.
Now when we consider all these machines that still hold the data from that election day, I am really shocked that the sheriffs of Georgia, who are the ultimate line protecting your constitutional rights, have not taken a larger role here in terms of circling up the evidence, Making sure that there's going to be something that we can go back and look at.
So I'm making a plea to the sheriffs of Georgia.
Come on guys, stand up.
You are the ultimate defenders of the constitutional rights of the people of Georgia.
Call your sheriffs.
Get them involved.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Well, when you say that, that hasn't happened in Arizona either.
In Arizona, they issue a subpoena from the Judiciary Committee of the Senate, which is not a hotbed of Trumpism.
It's not a MAGA hotbed, okay?
They issue a subpoena to Maricopa County.
And in Maricopa County, they're now back fighting in court right now because they can't get execution on the, they can't, the subpoena says, hey, turn over the machines and let's do a forensic audit.
The Maricopa County, and I want to make, the Maricopa County, I think it's four to one, it's a five man board of supervisors, it's four to one Republican.
Right?
There you don't have the sheriffs, you don't have the law enforcement.
Is the case being made to them with the evidence that's out there to force them to do it?
Okay, Phil Kline, we've had a little technical problem.
Phil Kline's going to join us in the next segment.
Phil Kline from the Amistad Project.
Phil Kline of the Thomas Morse Society.
Raheem, you look, you got a pince of...
raheem kassam ▲ ● ▼
Well, I just want to make sure that we cover in some part, very quickly, the Empowerment Control Act stuff as well.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
I want to get back to the veto after this.
I want to stick with it.
Where are we in this fight?
Look, the veto, I think, you know, look, we were very adamant.
We thought a veto, come back, and a veto should have been done on Christmas Eve, or tell Nancy Pelosi, One page, take out, you get to $600,000,000 of $2,000 per American citizen.
That gets about $600,000,000 if $300,000,000 is the number.
And you've got the $900,000,000.
Take $600,000,000 out of it and you've got $300,000,000 still with COVID.
But do it on one piece of paper.
And then maybe you want to get into the Appropriations Bill 2 and zero some of these things.
But you've got to do the cuts.
I don't think the CONTROL Act It gets there, but you'll explain that to us after Phil Kline.
Okay, Phil Kline from the Amistad Project, Thomas More Society will join us after a short commercial break.
War Room Pandemic, this is the Fight Club.
Remember, it's fights that matter.
This fight matters.
This is about our Constitution, this is about our Republic, this is about our country.
And we are winning the fight.
Look at Biden's numbers.
Look at the number of people who think he's illegitimate or illegal already.
And this is with, you know, suppression across the board.
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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
We'll return in a moment with Phil Kling.
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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
One of the reasons we keep bringing up Senator Perdue and Senator Loeffler, our theory of the case is, hey, if you play by the same rules that they played by, which were unconstitutional, on January 5th as we did on November 3rd, you're not going to win because Stacey Abrams has gamed the system.
She's gamed the system.
She's got, what, 80,000 or 50,000, I forget the number, people that have signed up.
They've voted registration, which is hard as all get-out-to-do.
She's done that.
I think she's got 25,000 that have already shown that didn't vote in the first election.
Right?
It just goes on and on and on.
I want to bring in now Phil Kline from the Amistad Project and Thomas Morris Society.
Phil, talk to me about Georgia.
I don't understand why this focus is not on what happened on the 3rd vis-a-vis the 5th.
Even if you hate Trump, if you're not a Trump guy, right?
I don't like Trump and I'm a business guy.
How do they possibly think you can win given that the game is rigged against you?
unidentified
Well, absolutely.
And Mark Zuckerberg is funding the same thing for the special election that he funded on November 3rd, and that is a two-tier voter system in which it's very, very easy to vote in urban areas.
and not only that it's not only easy to vote it's a bit old maintain a chain of custody of the ballot allowing the infusion of fraudulent ballots if that's desired on the talking about consolidated counting centers uh... you might have to wait by ballot drops again the whole thing we played which was a disastrous and unlawful election on november third occurring again in january and uh... we we need to do all that we can to stop it on
I'm really somewhat stunned that there are Republican state elected officials more interested in preserving an image than digging down and figuring out what happened November 3rd.
Look, I was asked the other day, what is some of the most compelling evidence that the election went wrong?
And my answer was the refusal of officials to allow access to information.
You know, I've never investigated somebody who was innocent who didn't want me to see the evidence that they controlled to prove their innocence.
And I've never investigated somebody who was guilty who didn't want me to see what they had in their pocket that proved their guilt.
Transparency in Georgia is not present.
The machine logs haven't been made available.
Ballots for forensic analysis haven't been made available.
The ballot envelopes haven't been made available.
Why?
Why?
And that stuff must be made available for this special election if we're to believe that there was an integral election.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Here's the question from the audience, is that if that's the case, you've got a Republican House run by Ralston, you've got a Republican Senate, you've already had, I think, the Judiciary Committee met and they passed or they put forward A report, it wasn't an official report, but an interim report showed that this thing was totally illegal and that Biden should be decertified.
You had the House meet last week and hear the evidence with Democrats there, and the Democrats didn't even want to talk about the evidence.
Why has this not, with Kemp and Roethlisberger and guys in control, why hasn't this made more progress with Republicans?
Is your evidence not really that compelling?
Or when you say the image, what image are they trying to put up?
unidentified
Well, I think, yes, our evidence is compelling.
I mentioned to you on the phone a moment ago, we filed a 1,400-page appendix of evidence to our D.C.
lawsuit that we filed last week that's available for everybody to look at that we've watched this media narrative that there is no evidence by the way the fourteen hundred pages could just as well be twenty thousand pages because it contains references to other evidence that we didn't expressly file there is substantial evidence of how this election was lawless the intentional violations of law by local election officials that allowed
fraud to occur and allowed it to occur without scrutiny.
You ask me why?
Well, I think you were talking about it before I was on, Steve, and these officials are wrestling ghosts.
they're sitting there trying to think well, look, if I support Trump, then this segment of the population might be opposed to me, and I have a dream someday of being emperor of the world.
And when a politician thinks like that, they're no longer a leader.
They're, in fact, they're enslaved to the wrong things.
What they need to do is look at what happened, and if there's lawlessness, state so.
And if you can't have faith in the election, don't certify it.
That's their job.
But instead they think their job is self-preservation and looking at the poll numbers, which is not their job.
It's to do the right thing with the information they have before the vote.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Are you going to file in Georgia?
Are you going to file a suit about the 5th of January special election?
Is Amistad and Thomas Moore going to file?
unidentified
Yes, and we're working that as we speak on several grounds.
One is the improper influence, again, of Mark Zuckerberg and his billions that's creating this two-tier election system.
Secondly, the lawlessness as it relates to the use of drop boxes and the failure to maintain chain of custody.
Thirdly, that they have invited people in and voted in a U.S.
Senate race Uh, in other states to come vote in another U.S.
Senate race in Georgia.
We don't believe that's appropriate.
That's like giving an American.
It's diluting the vote of those of us who vote in one U.S.
Senate race this election cycle.
So these are some of the grounds on which we're going to file in Georgia.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Are the Perdue or Loeffler campaigns, do they appear to have any interest in either lawsuit or issues related to the lawlessness of the November 4th election and how that's rolling into the 5 January election?
unidentified
You know, I can't really speak to that because I'm a 501c3, so we don't get involved on behalf of candidates or parties.
We're focused on election integrity.
I can tell you that some of these groups reach out to us now and then and ask us to share information that we have, and we do when they ask us.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Phil, let's go back to this DC, the 1,400 pages in DC that you filed as an addendum.
Walk through, what's the most compelling, why did you file this addendum, or why did you file 1,400 pages?
It's all evidence of that.
We're going to put it up for our audience to look at, but where should our audience go and look for what's the most compelling stuff you've got in this addendum you've put into the DC filing?
unidentified
Well, I will get you a link and an index to it, but I would say the biggest story, and it's really the story that's not been spoken of much, is Zuckerberg and his 400 million plus that he gave to local election offices, actually purchasing those offices.
what i mean by that isn't those funds and the four of those funds dictated how the election would be managed in in these democrat cities it dictated that they would have consolidated counting centers that dictated uh... what those officials would do it actually paid the officials paid the judges it told them the number of satellite offices they would have to to have ballots mobile pickup units all of those things where it's a shadow government that cannot be allowed
That is the biggest story, I believe, of this election cycle, is that Mark Zuckerberg delivered the election for Joe Biden with this infusion of more money than the federal government appropriated in March for the general election.
so that's that's a bit and then there's the there's a all of the evidence detailing what happened in the county groups that was fraudulent people being trained to to commit fraud additionally the info of ballots of the the well the the affidavit and the story of jesse morgan who drove completed absentee ballots from best page new york into pennsylvania
where is practice trailer that contained up to two hundred and forty thousand ballots disappeared it.
Disappeared.
A trailer with GPS disappears, and the postal inspector has still not found it.
And I believe that's because the inspector general's not interested.
in finding out the truth about that instead they were more interested in in investigating jesse morgan so that's a big piece of the evidence there's the co-mingling of of uh...
of data as it relates to the machines to break in the audit trail that was witnessed and and actually occurred at more than one location that's key evidence uh... all of the ballot or the work stoppages in the uh...
in the consolidated counting centers as well as the exclusion of one party for those centers that is evidence of lawlessness and intentionality to allow for fraud So there's a bunch of evidence there.
But it tells the complete story, and I would encourage you I'm going to send you a chart, it's a spider chart, of the relationships between these leftist non-profit organizations and blue state officials across the nation that allowed them the private interest to dictate how the election was run.
For the benefit of Mr. Biden.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
You know, this is for the Trump movement and for people that care about this republic and for our audience.
It's like being a Kafkaesque novel.
It's driving them crazy because they're hearing you and others come up with this overwhelming evidence, yet it doesn't seem, like for instance, in D.C., do you anticipate that you're going to get a hearing on this or even get into the docket and get up there to be able to start arguing before the 6th of January, before the Electoral College vote gets counted in our nation's capital?
unidentified
I doubt it.
And it's unfortunate.
But I'll tell you what the real responsibility rests.
And this is essentially, I believe, what the Supreme Court is saying.
Now, I think they ought to take up this case.
I really do.
But if you could sum up what the Supreme Court has said thus far, it's that this is a political issue and that those political bodies vested with the responsibility and authority under the United States Constitution ought to resolve it.
and that is state legislatures and congress.
If congress does not launch an investigation into the Zuckerberg funds, full-scale, aggressive, subpoenaed, they have failed.
If state legislatures don't even meet between now and January 20th as a body, there are a few committees meeting, but committees don't have the authority.
It's the joint session of the legislatures that need to meet.
They have not even met.
Then you have a failure in leadership.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Phil, we've got to bounce.
We'll get your social media up on the other side of this.
Phil Klein from the Amistad Project, Thomas Moore Society.
Short commercial break.
Be back with the team in a moment.
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What is it?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Give us Phil Kline's social media and also then I want you to give your analysis of the Zuckerberg situation, which is being obviously the mainstream media is not touching this with a barge pole.
raheem kassam ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, Phil Klein's social media, you can find him at Phil D. Klein.
That's Phil with two L's, D, and then Klein with a K. So, P-H-I-L-L-D-K-L-I-N-E.
And I think they're absolutely right in pointing out everything that's going on here.
I mean effectively the corporatization of elections.
I'm not going to say privatization because it's not.
What's happening here is a public-private partnership which puts together the worst of the corporate world and the worst of the bureaucratic world to manage elections on a local and national basis.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
But he's doing this personally.
That's not Facebook money, it's his cash.
That's correct.
So it is almost an oligarch.
The thing we're going to get into is this whole scam.
It's a total scam of their ability to give stock tax-free into these foundations, Ford Foundation, Zuckerberg, where they give it tax-free.
raheem kassam ▲ ● ▼
CTCL.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
It's CTCL.
It explodes up to billions of dollars, and that's used to crush the populist movement in this country.
Another scam for the 1%, done by the insiders and signed off by everybody, right?
Complete total scam.
jack maxey ▲ ● ▼
And then depending on the state in which they register this kind of charity, they can take up to 4% as income for managing their own charity.
Now I also want to say something about the Zuckerbergs to give you an idea of how craven this family is.
Mark and his wife Chan also gave $500,000, I think, really tipped the vote in Oregon to decriminalize methamphetamine, cocaine, and heroin.
Now that passed.
This is the kind of activism that we're seeing out of the Zuckerberg family.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Is there any logic to decriminalizing that?
Isn't that what they try to do?
Is there any logic?
This is not my thing.
I know there's arguments on both sides, but is there no argument against decriminalizing this and trying to get people into rehab or whatever instead of putting them in prison?
jack maxey ▲ ● ▼
Perhaps there might be, but I think the American people have the use of their own eyes and can see what Portland, Oregon has looked like for the last seven or eight months.
And the idea of making heroin, methamphetamine and cocaine more widely available for those people who are living on the streets, tearing that city apart, doesn't exactly seem to me like a banner operation.
And we see the same thing in San Francisco.
For example, we talk about COVID-19.
It just came out over the weekend.
More people have died of opiate overdoses since January of this year in San Francisco than have died of COVID-19.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
With the whole thing shut down.
Why are people, particularly on the right, why are they not more on this Zuckerberg story?
This story, and by the way, the Amistad Project, if you want to go and donate or just find out more information, it's the Amistad Project of the Thomas More Society, and we can speak for St.
Thomas More.
I think he'd be very proud of the work.
That Phil Kline and the team over there are doing.
Why is this not getting more coverage?
I know the National Pulse has covered it, but why do you think it's not more broadly?
Are people intimidated that they may be taken down from Facebook, or are they just not interested?
raheem kassam ▲ ● ▼
I think that's absolutely one of the reasons.
I mean, look, a lot of conservative organizations, news outlets, whatever, have plowed hundreds of thousands of dollars into growing their Facebook pages.
unidentified
Millions of dollars, not hundreds, millions of dollars.
raheem kassam ▲ ● ▼
Let me put it this way.
The National Polls and mine together, we have poured over a decade hundreds of thousands of dollars into building those pages.
We are now banned.
We may no longer post.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Look, we could not have launched this show if we had not put the money into the Facebook ecosystem.
We launched this on one station in Richmond, Virginia.
And we had a Facebook page.
Now, we very quickly got TV pickup, but it was the Facebook that was there, and hey, the rise of Breitbart.
We would have never been as powerful as Breitbart if we hadn't put in a ton of money into building up Facebook.
Facebook's the way to do it.
If they take you down, it's a different deal, right?
It's a very different deal.
raheem kassam ▲ ● ▼
I get I got almost no traffic now through Facebook you know I get I get a ton of direct trafficking from people who are just like typing it into their browser now but Facebook has totally killed us and I think a lot of the other organizations out there have developed this hyper reliance on social media referral traffic where they don't want to do these stories my attitude towards it is I don't care I don't care, right?
You've seen my approach to all these sorts of things, Fox News, whatever it is.
I don't care.
I will run headfirst into these people.
But for the people who are coining it in, in a business sense, off Facebook traffic, they don't want to touch these stories.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Let's go to, you're the first guy, I think it was during impeachment that brought up the Budget Control Act.
Let's talk about that vis-a-vis this veto.
I know many, many, many people in our audience are gobsmacked about how this happened over the weekend and how the President, who basically was talking, I think had a very logical plan from when this thing first came.
You need more cash, if this is a bridging event, you need more cash to the American people.
We've got to carve that out.
The total number doesn't increase.
We've got to carve that out with cuts and some of the cuts are going to have to come from the appropriations bill.
So what happened and why is the Budget Control Act?
Is this a real thing or is this just a sop to make people feel better?
raheem kassam ▲ ● ▼
Look, we raised this back in December of last year on the War Room Impeachment Show.
I did a write-up for the War Room website in January explaining the genesis of the Empowerment Control Act, how it all works, who's been in favor of it.
I mean, there have been variations of all of this in terms of limiting the spending of the President since Jefferson, right?
And he was the first to push back against Congress's power of appropriation.
To say, hey, actually, you know, you can't just take the money and spend it on these 15 gunboats.
I want to make sure we get the bang for our buck on this stuff.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
But the courts have been very, you don't get a line item veto.
They've tried the line item veto.
This is just the backdoor to the line item veto.
They've been categorically to support that the House of Representatives is where all spending comes from, all the taxation comes from policies, and really is the lead in This is just a backdoor method to get to it, correct?
raheem kassam ▲ ● ▼
Correct.
So I'm trying to walk people through my thinking on this.
I actually have a piece of analysis up on the National Pulse right now that walks people through this.
So the President released a statement yesterday.
He says, as President, I'm demanding many rescissions under the Empowerment Control Act of 1974.
The Act provides that Whenever the President determines that all or part of any budget authority will not be required to carry out the full objectives or scope of programs for which it is provided, or that such budget authority should be rescinded for fiscal policy or other reasons, the President shall transmit to both Houses of Congress a special message describing the amount to be reserved, the relevant accounts, the reason for the rescission, and the economic effects of the rescission.
And here's the deal guys.
Congress has to respond within 45 days, and it could respond in two words.
No thanks.
And that's it.
The only provision that the Empowerment Control Act has... It was a power grab under Nixon, by the way.
It was a power grab by the Congress to say, hey, guess what?
We run this country now.
We run all the budgetary things of this country now.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Last time I remember, I think that was the Watergate summer, right?
That's exactly right.
Nixon in August was in the helicopter having a handshake with Jerry Ford saying, hey, see ya, wouldn't want to be ya.
raheem kassam ▲ ● ▼
So whoever has given the President this information, that he has some kind of redline ability here, is misleading.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
He has the ability to redline, that's not the question, you can send it over.
raheem kassam ▲ ● ▼
It doesn't do anything.
jack maxey ▲ ● ▼
They don't have to follow it is the whole point.
I mean realistically the president should take his big black marker and veto this thing in large letters so that the whole world can see it.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Here's the reason, is that today, and we're getting from Greg Manns, who's in the engine room today, he's telling us, because he's working on all these angles, he's telling us they're going to have a Republican conference, the House is coming back today, they're going to have a Republican conference meeting at 4, and I think they're going to talk about a vote at 5, and to override the veto for the National Defense Authorization Act.
Now, the National Defense Authorization Act, The President there, and I think a lot of that was on principle.
Number one, the one principle is that limiting his ability to take troops basically out of these areas, like in Afghanistan, Iraq, and other places, challenging, he's got to get kind of a sign-off by Congress.
He can't give that up as far as Commander-in-Chief, right?
So it's, there are high principles, not just monetary, not just cash and programmatic.
There's also high principle about him as commander in chief is one of the reasons he vetoed this.
Plus the whole issue with the naming of the bases.
Plus I think it's here, I don't know if it's here or in the appropriation, I think they've got some of the Insurrection Act here, I know they had some of the Insurrection Act issues in the appropriations.
But he's on high principles and hey, if you hear the chat around town is that the Democrats think they're going to have enough Republicans sign up for him to override Trump's veto.
jack maxey ▲ ● ▼
And you know what, Steve?
He could walk out there today, veto that defense bill.
He could veto it on the basis of them limiting it.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
It was vetoed.
jack maxey ▲ ● ▼
But you should explain it to the American people.
I'm doing this because I am fulfilling my constitutional oath.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
And there's clearly an unconstitutional... Look, one of the powers of doing the veto on the COVID, because of the combo platter, they fused them together to make it more difficult.
The appropriations takes you all the way through the end of the fiscal year next September.
And the COVID is to smoke out To smoke out, for the populist movements, who's for you and who's against you.
This has been what we call a forcing function.
It'll force the rats to get to the deck if they're going to jump off the ship.
Separate the wheat from the chaff.
Now you're not going to get this.
So, Rahim, tell me what the President does now.
This is 10 days of historic maneuvering.
You've got this January 6th.
First, you've got the big vote to kind of hold the Senate or not in Georgia.
You've got the major meeting on the 6th.
You now have the defense authorization, these other huge bills up there.
His rescission, at least symbolically, will put forth... I noticed that Mitch McConnell, by the way, in Purdue, in their proclamation saying how great it was he signed it, I noticed they missed the paragraph on rescissions, right, on the Budget Control Act.
Also the President saying, hey, there's been a commitment by both the House and the Senate to get into the legal vote.
What did that mean?
raheem kassam ▲ ● ▼
Look, here's what I would do if I were the president right now.
I would get my phone out and I would text Lindsey Graham and Kevin McCarthy and Mitch McConnell and I would text them, hey, lose my number.
Right?
This advice is total BS.
It doesn't amount to anything.
It doesn't take us anywhere.
It doesn't move the needle.
All it gets, by the way, all I got him is Over the course of yesterday evening to this morning, a spate of headlines that say Trump capes.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Correct me if I'm wrong, during we had the War of Impeachment show, there was a whole bunch of acts that the President was going to do about declassification and everything like that, and Lindsey Graham said you don't need to do any of that, I've got the committee, I control the committee, we're going to have a full investigation of everything, correct?
unidentified
Jack, didn't you speak to him directly about that?
jack maxey ▲ ● ▼
To Lindsey Graham, I think I did on the air, but let's remember something about Lindsey Graham, one of my favorite topics, okay?
Because there's always a leak in every boat, and Lindsey is it.
Let's remember, if he hadn't had to have his little grandstanding two-and-a-half week hearing for Amy Comey Barrett, and he just had that vote on day one that he ended up doing anyway, after three weeks of jawboning and being on TV, Lindsey, If he had just had that vote on day one, we would never have had that 4-4 decision in Pennsylvania, and we would not be sitting here right now trying to figure out how to save a stolen election.
Thank you, Lindsey.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Remember, Roberts ran for cover.
It was 4-4, because glorious ACB was not approved because it had to go through the sham of the two-week You know, to make sure that the mainstream media was not hammering him, he could have gone right to the floor.
It wouldn't have changed anything.
Same people would have voted for it, right?
She would have been the same.
unidentified
100%.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
She would have still been glorious ACB, although she did have a great run in there.
Okay, short commercial break.
We'll return with the War Room Posse to drill down on this historic next 10 days.
What to look forward to.
Remember, tomorrow's news today on The War Room.
Be back in a second.
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War Room.
Pandemic.
With Stephen K. Bannon.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
The reason we're the number one podcaster, this is the most powerful audience in all media.
The reason is you're highly engaged, very smart, and we make this show as tough as possible.
We don't dumb this down.
We try to raise the bar.
One thing I would strongly recommend, we're going to put Thomas Paine's The Crisis up in the live stream.
We're going to put it up on all the sites so you can read it.
Remember, that was written for around December of 1776.
You've got to, if you've got time, Today or tomorrow, make sure you go back and look at the Combat History of Christmas, the special we did with Patrick K. O'Donnell, the great combat historian, Jack Maxey and myself, on Christmas Day.
And the reason is, you'll see what patriots are when they've got their back to the wall.
Right, when they have their back to the wall, and particularly, folks, we took over an hour just to walk through the Battle of Trenton.
How we got there, how defeated and shattered the army was, the roll of the dice of General Washington, and as Jack Maxey said, he was a combo of both, he was a convergent of both moral courage and physical courage, which is unique, and that's why he's the father Of his country.
That would be the United States of America, not the United States of the Federal Reserve.
Okay.
We've got a lot.
At five o'clock today, we've been running a poll for the last day.
Chris Christie kind of implied and CNN got all over it.
I think it was that Chris Christie is thinking about running for president in 2024.
We're going to have more on that later, I think, on The Tonight Show.
Raheem, right now, how many responses?
This is a massive response so far.
What is it?
How many?
raheem kassam ▲ ● ▼
Massive is the word.
27,000 votes so far.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
27,000 votes as we close in on the morning show, and the percentage of the 27,000, which is huge in some poll like this, of the 27,000, what percentage are advocates of Chris Christie running for president in 2024?
unidentified
1.6%.
1.6%.
Okay, fine, we'll discuss that more later.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
I'm going to keep that poll.
raheem kassam ▲ ● ▼
Keep the margin of error.
unidentified
Zero.
raheem kassam ▲ ● ▼
Statistically zero.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Of a hot, okay.
How do people get to us?
Right now, Walk through how they get to us, the podcast.
Even if you watch the show, download the podcast, leave a review, tell us what you think of the podcast vis-a-vis the live streaming we do.
And we want to thank, by the way, the Real America's Voice team in Denver.
You guys have been extraordinary.
Remember, most guys are shut down over these two weeks.
It's only because of our team in Denver and the John Furnish Radio Network that we're able to even produce the show here in Washington, D.C.
I want to give a big thank you because they worked on the Christmas Eve and of course the Boxing Day special was an extraordinary great guest.
How do people get to us and how do they help drive the show?
raheem kassam ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, I want to make sure that people know how much we pay attention, not just to the live chat but to all the comments and everything.
So you need to like, leave a comment, subscribe to all the channels on YouTube, on Rumble especially, given YouTube's propensity to take some of our episodes down.
You can get us on all of the podcast platforms, barring Spotify I believe, so make sure you pick another one if you have Spotify there and leave make sure you subscribe.
It's free and leave a review.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
We please five stars Yeah, but do I pick any story you want but leave the details we go through the details and this is how we try to make the show better principally Having me shut up and these other guys talk which is the constant complaint of things, right?
unidentified
I That is about the only review we get nowadays.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
The only negative review?
raheem kassam ▲ ● ▼
No, the only review!
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
So Jack Maxey, where do we stand in all this?
You're the conscious of the war room.
Given the veto, given the National Defense Authorization, where is Mike Pence?
What are we doing here?
Why is Mike Pence and Vale skiing?
That's not exactly... that doesn't feel MAGA to me.
jack maxey ▲ ● ▼
Well, we are going to read Thomas Paine's The Crisis.
You'll be learning all about Sunshine Patriots.
I think the key thing here Is that no matter what happens on the 20th, this army of deplorables is going to stay in the field either in support of Donald Trump's next four years or in opposition to those who betrayed him.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Hang on, hang on.
The next four years.
We're winning this thing. 100%.
jack maxey ▲ ● ▼
But one of the things that's so important about these vetoes to me, Steve, it allows everybody to stand up and be counted.
I want to know who will oppose the President's veto.
Let's see it.
And guess what?
If you deplorables get out there and you call everybody and you put the fire to them like we did with those guys in Pennsylvania last weekend, they're going to fall in line no matter what McConnell says, no matter what the RINO leadership says.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Denver, let's get back up Kemp in the Purdue and Loeffler, the assignment today between now and the five o'clock show, just like he did in Pennsylvania.
Let's make these guys famous.
Kemp, this is just, and what he's listening to is the corporate interest.
And the corporate interests are telling him, hey, if you move forward and have a venue, if this thing has an official venue in the Georgia House, you call a special session, it'll be game over.
Because once the evidence is, you've seen the way these feckless Democrats can't even address the evidence, right?
They just start throwing at your nativist, your racist, all that, which is not going to wash here.
People are going to see the evidence.
The corporate interests are telling these guys, if you do this, we're moving out of Atlanta.
We've made Atlanta an international city.
You've got one of the biggest international airports in the world.
You've had the Olympic Games.
You're now a world city.
If you start doing this, and particularly if you go to decertify the Biden vote, you're going to have big problems.
So what do the people have to do?
This is about the will of the people.
You have to contact Kemp's office, and you should be polite.
You should be firm and resolved, but polite as the deplorables are, but show resolve.
And hey, that is, and sometimes I notice in the live chat we're not as polite as we want to be, but you've got to sit there and go, this is not acceptable.
This is not acceptable for the country.
It's not acceptable in defense of the Constitution.
We cannot have Phil Klein said it, a lawless election.
If we have a lawless election, that's why we must win this and Donald Trump must be inaugurated at noon on the 20th, or Nancy Pelosi is acting president for a week or two as we get this thing sorted out, right, to eventually get it with President Trump, because otherwise it's going to be completely lawless, and that is what we can't take.
What is on National Pulse today at 3 o'clock, Raheem?
raheem kassam ▲ ● ▼
We're going through a lot more of the details on this with Jack Pasobic as well.
Jerome Riviere will join us as well from Paris to give us the latest details about what's going on with the of course the big Brexit deal that we're hearing details on now and also a smaller detail the Paris Opera is taking out the classics like the Nutcracker because they don't include enough minorities.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
I want to get the Lace on that and also a lot of Goodman is breaking some news very shortly over at the free beacon about the the Georgia race So she'll be joining us for an exclusive. Do we have do we have any idea? No idea right now, but it's bad for Warnock We're told okay fine. Well Warnock has got it's got some hair on that whole campaign that hasn't come out yet But it's if la fleur and Purdue just stand with the president. They're gonna win with a big margin. Okay, Jack Maxey Stephen K Ben would be back here at 5 o'clock Greg man's be coming in
I think by Skype because it'd be a lot of activity remember There's supposed to be a vote today in the house at 5 o'clock to to all.
Override President Trump's veto of the National Defense Authorization Act.
There's also going to be a vote, a freebie, really, to go to $2,000 per.
Somebody's got to come up with where the $500 billion is going to come from.
That part, obviously, Congress, in destroying the dollar, is not quite interested in.
Okay.
We're in pandemic.
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