Dec. 26, 2020 - Bannon's War Room
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Well, the virus has now killed more than 100 people in China, and new cases have been confirmed around the world. | |
| You don't want to frighten the American public. | ||
| France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans. | ||
| But you need to prepare for and assume... Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China. | ||
| That this is going to be a real serious problem. | ||
| France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on. | ||
| Health officials are investigating more than a hundred possible cases in the US. | ||
| Germany, a man has contracted the virus. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus. | ||
| Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500. | ||
| We have to prepare for the worst, always, because if you don't and the worst happens, War Room Pandemic. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| Alright, welcome back to the War Room. | ||
| I gave Stephen K. Bannon the day off today. | ||
| So we could have our Boxing Day special. | ||
| Greg Manns, the engine room of the War Room. | ||
| Nathalie Winters, the engine room of the Nathalie Pulse? | ||
| National Pulse! | ||
| Joining me in studio and down the line, none other than a great hero and friend of mine, James O'Keefe, the head of Project Veritas, which had an absolutely massive Hey Rahim, it's great to be with you. | ||
| in of course the uh... the cnn uh... leaks the the uh... cnn advent as they called it leaking the uh... cnn editorial james welcome to welcome back i should say to war in pandemic iranians crazy idea my coming and i come in a pretty good or my two pixelated i think you're i think you're all good james will We'll crack on, we'll let you know if there are any problems. | ||
| We're just really grateful to have you and have you spend some time with us today. | ||
| The audience are massive James O'Keefe fans, so is everybody in the studio here. | ||
| And it's not just because of your dance moves, right? | ||
| You are a phenomenal example of what real reporting and real investigations looks like. | ||
| And here at the end of the year, every time we get together, we get the team together here to reflect. | ||
| We like to ask people, OK, it's been a tough year, especially 2020, but tell us what are the highlights for you and what are the highlights for Project Veritas been? | ||
| Well, I think the highlights are certainly recently the Jeff Zucker phone call, you know, dialing in and he did not know that we recorded two months of his phone calls. | ||
| For an entire two months, we had recorded the 9 a.m. | ||
| editorial conference call. | ||
| I think the Texas story, voter fraud, catching them on tape, paying people for their votes, admitting that it's illegal. | ||
| The Minnesota story, where we caught these Somalians on tape literally giving hundreds of dollars in exchange for votes. | ||
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We actually caught voter fraud on tape in controversial evidence, the Attorney General of Texas investigating that. | |
| Well, moreover, the Whistleblower Program has really taken off, and now we have a lot of people on the inside that come to us so that we don't necessarily have to go undercover as much as we have to earn the trust of people on the inside of these different government agencies, tech companies, schools. | ||
| And it's sort of changed journalism, because I think people need to see. | ||
| I think people have to see it to believe it these days, and the only way we're going to get that is from the inside. | ||
| Getting these whistleblowers is a huge thing. | ||
| We're calling it Be Brave, Do Something. | ||
| And I think in 2021, we're going to have an exponentially increased number of whistleblowers and insiders coming to us. | ||
| James, how long have you been doing this? | ||
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Well, I'm 36. | |
| I've been doing it since I was 19, in a sense of journalism. | ||
| I started at a newspaper college. | ||
| But Project Veritas has existed since basically the ACORN investigation. | ||
| Before that, I did do some undercover work in Planned Parenthood, so I would say 11 years in a major way, and we've succeeded because we just don't stop. | ||
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We just keep going, and that's actually the most important thing. | |
| I've seen people quit. | ||
| I've seen people give up. | ||
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When you are... | |
| I think... | ||
| You know, we don't... | ||
| James, I think we... | ||
| James, I think we might need to reset the connection with you. | ||
| Just hang tight for a second. | ||
| We'll try and reconnect with you. | ||
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We're going to ask you the question. | |
| We'll get James back up in just a second. | ||
| We'll mute James. | ||
| I want to come back to James in a second. | ||
| We'll clean that line up a little bit. | ||
| But the reason I asked the question as to how long he's been doing this, not just for your benefit to understand how long it takes to become a James O'Keefe, I would argue that you're already Nine-tenths of the way there. | ||
| You've just had a great mentor. | ||
| No, but the point is, I think there's a lot of the audience out there who wonder how easy it is for them to get into the game. | ||
| How easy it is for them to break in, to do their own thing. | ||
| And honestly, it's the same thing that I've experienced, the same thing I know James experienced. | ||
| It's not anything except try and try and try and dedicate yourself to the truth. | ||
| You know, one of the reasons I take such umbrage at our betters in the corporate media is not because they're bad at their jobs. | ||
| They can be bad at their jobs all they want and I'll happily tease them about it and goad them about it all day long, but they accuse us of being bad at our jobs. | ||
| Us, who don't have to issue corrections day on day, right? | ||
| Us, who work so hard to make sure that because we're small outlets and relatively Financially insecure. | ||
| You know, we cannot afford a lawsuit like CNN can. | ||
| I can't settle with Nick Sandman for $25 million if I get something wrong, you know? | ||
| And so we have to be over-cautious every single time. | ||
| And they just issue correctional... I mean, open up the New York Times on a daily basis and look how many things they get wrong and they have to correct. | ||
| Greg? | ||
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Yeah, and I think a primary factor in that is how much they rely on anonymous sourcing. | |
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That is a completely ridiculous way to generate a story. | |
| And I get it with national security. | ||
| It can be, it can be, it might have to happen in that way. | ||
| But now, and I want to bring James back, I think we got James O'Keefe back with us, bring James back into this conversation as well. | ||
| Is that now it's become the predominant way of reporting out a story is anonymous sourcing. | ||
| And it's crazy to me we've got to that position. | ||
| But James, what you do and what you have is anonymously sourced in a lot of senses because what you've got is whistleblowers inside the corporate media and inside these organizations. | ||
| But again, your whistleblowers aren't just, hey, one and done, anonymous source says this. | ||
| They go on tape, they give up their jobs, they give up their livelihoods, they get targeted. | ||
| You know, these are brave people. | ||
| What's the slogan? | ||
| Be brave, do something, right? | ||
| Yeah, Raheem, can you hear me? | ||
| I apologize, I'm calling from a... Yeah, I got you. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, listen, anonymous sourcing... Loud and clear. | ||
| Can you hear me? | ||
| Loud and clear. | ||
| Okay, sorry about that. | ||
| So, anonymous sourcing is like the paragon of investigative journalism but you know what we do at Project Veritas is we don't report anything unless you can see the person's lips moving and you can hear their voices and and and I understand that the need for anonymous sources but journalism I mean I don't think we can trust the New York Times anymore or the Associated Press to relay to us accurate information I mean you know Wilburton Bernstein you know lied to deep throat They used all these anonymous sources and Watergate. | ||
| But the only reason you should use an anonymous source is if you trust the journalist. | ||
| You have to trust their word for it. | ||
| We should not trust any of the journalists. | ||
| Given us no reason to trust them. | ||
| So every time you use an anonymous source, you draw currency out of your bank account, you draw upon your reputation. | ||
| They have no reputation. | ||
| They've sabotaged reputation. | ||
| I don't trust anything unless I can see it, hear it for myself. | ||
| In fact, even when we do show you like we did in Minnesota, the guy actually giving money in exchange for votes, that was on tape. | ||
| The New York Times said, this is not real. | ||
| So the New York Times is behaving like tyrants in 1984, reject the evidence of your eyes and ears, Reject the evidence of your own eyes and ears and trust us. | ||
| It's a disgusting what's happened to journalism and the only way to restore faith in journalism is to show people with their own eyes and ears what's going on. | ||
| So, James, one of the things I was talking about when we were reconnecting with you is corrections and how many times these people have to correct their stories. | ||
| Because it might be a small detail, like somebody's birthday, whatever it is, but it's so routine now that they dedicate columns in entire pages and it's every day in these news outlets that claim to be the paragons of truth. | ||
| So tell us about Retracto. | ||
| Retracto the correction alpaca. | ||
| So the late Andrew Breitbart, you know, you all know Andrew Breitbart. | ||
| Andrew Breitbart, I was getting lied about constantly after this arrest in New Orleans, you know, 10 years ago. | ||
| There were so many lies, like I wiretapped a senator, I bugged people, I tried to blow up the building. | ||
| There were just so many outrageous lies. | ||
| But Andrew, it was very late, you know, I was on federal pretrial, and I was sitting in a hotel room in Washington, and Andrew called me at like 11 o'clock, and Andrew Breitbart, the late Andrew Breitbart, called me and said, there needs to be a mascot for all these corrections, James O'Keefe, because the journals cannot stop lying about you. | ||
| They get so emotional. | ||
| It's out of control. | ||
| So let's have a mascot, and Andrew Breitbart said, it will be a Llama, or an alpaca to be more specific. | ||
| And we'll call him Retracto. | ||
| And I literally laughed until I cried, because that is the funniest sh** I have ever heard in my life. | ||
| And Retracto was born, and Rahim, there has been over 300 retractions about myself. | ||
| We framed them, we put them on the wall in my office. | ||
| And they call me a liar! | ||
| I think I've made four corrections in my entire career. | ||
| I think I've made four corrections in my entire career. | ||
| These are not venial sins. | ||
| These are like, you know, I didn't title the CNN person the correct way. | ||
| I think the journalists practice an extreme form of psychological projection. | ||
| It's a form of mental illness. | ||
| They accuse their enemy of doing the thing that they do. | ||
| I was not raised that way. | ||
| I don't treat people that way. | ||
| I don't accuse my enemies of doing what I myself do. | ||
| But that's what people at the New York Times do. | ||
| They lie. | ||
| They use anonymous sources. | ||
| And they print so many corrections. | ||
| So Retracto, the correction, Alpaca is late Andrew Breitbart's way, and I'm trying to inherit the legacy of some of what he did there. | ||
| James, I know exactly how you feel. | ||
| I think the last thing that the media really went after me for in a big way was when I, there was a story that I ran when I was running Breitbart London. | ||
| We ran a story about a migrant using jet skis to make their way across, I think it was the English Channel, And we just used a generic photo, whatever, you know, we had a Getty Images editorial subscription and we just used a generic photo of whatever we could find jet ski, right? | ||
| Because you're not actually, we didn't actually have a picture of a migrant on a jet ski. | ||
| I think the story was like even aggregated from a different news outlet. | ||
| It wasn't even like original reporting, it was just... | ||
| Kind of re-reporting. | ||
| So we used a generic picture of the jet ski. | ||
| Turns out I didn't look closely enough at the jet ski image, and there was a German footballer, soccer player, on the jet ski. | ||
| And the media started going in after me, going, oh, Rahim thinks that this German soccer player is a refugee, making his way illegally across the borders. | ||
| I was like, no, that's not what we said at all in the article. | ||
| But this is what they get us on. | ||
| I've never had to retract a story. | ||
| I've never had to issue a substantive correction. | ||
| Guess what? | ||
| Because I don't print lies, James. | ||
| I want to understand from you guys, can you give us a clue as to where Project Veritas is going over the next year? | ||
| Well, I think people are very cynical in this country. | ||
| Don't have reason to have hope, right? | ||
| One of the things I've heard, I'm down here at this Turning Point Conference. | ||
| There's a lot of students, a lot of political people. | ||
| It's kind of like CPAC. | ||
| It's a political conference. | ||
| And I hear people saying, well, what difference does anything make? | ||
| You know, what difference does even the videos of them breaking the law make? | ||
| And maybe we're headed towards civil unrest in this country if videotape of people breaking the law doesn't matter anymore. | ||
| I'm not sure what does matter. | ||
| I'm not sure if justice matters. | ||
| Uh, if there's equality before the law. | ||
| So at Project Veritas, we seek to be the answer to the question, what can I do? | ||
| And that is to say, you can do something. | ||
| If you're a school teacher, if you're a bus driver, if you're a union representative, if you're a government official, legislative aide, you can take one of those little itty bitty cameras, put it on your lapel, and blow the whistle, and create an army, a legion of exposers. | ||
| Because I do think the communists, And I do believe that it's, to a certain degree, communism, what is happening in parts of our country, or the spirit of communism. | ||
| What they fear more than anything else is being exposed. | ||
| Just like the guy who did what he did to Richard Hopkins, that federal agent who interrogated Richard Hopkins. | ||
| Richard Hopkins recorded him and what he was doing. | ||
| And the fact that Richard Hopkins took out his cell phone, that was the mailman that saw them backdating ballots in the federal election, And recorded those federal agents interrogating him and coercing him. | ||
| The fact that Richard did that, had the balls to do that, is what we seek to do more of at Project Veritas. | ||
| So our vision is we have a thousand people doing that next year. | ||
| And it's going to create a transparent and ethical society, no matter who's in charge. | ||
| I don't care if it's Republicans or Democrats. | ||
| Frankly, in my opinion, in Congress, there's not much of a difference. | ||
| So we're going to expose them all, and like Abraham Lincoln said, public opinion is everything, and without it, no one can govern. | ||
| Consensus is everything. | ||
| So we're trying to create that revolution of whistleblowers and insiders, and it requires an organization like us, because we don't settle, we run from nothing, we hide from nothing, we don't plead the fifth, we don't back down, and we never will. | ||
| James, where can the audience go to support your work, and where can the audience go to sign up if they are keen to be one of the whistleblowers? | ||
| You've got to go to one of two places. | ||
| You go to our website, projectveritas.com. | ||
| That's projectveritas.com. | ||
| Or, if you want to email us to an encrypted server, you can go to veritas tips. | ||
| That's veritastips at protonmail.com. | ||
| That is a Switzerland-based encrypted email service. | ||
| So we've had most of our folks inside media companies come to us through there. | ||
| And if you're listening to this and you want to wear a camera or you know someone who does, you can contact us there and we'll hook you up. | ||
| Amazing, amazing work. | ||
| James O'Keefe, Project Veritas. | ||
| Thanks again for joining us here on this Boxing Day special of War Room Pandemic. | ||
| James, thank you. | ||
| Today's special. | ||
| I'm honored. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| All right, all right. | ||
| Make sure you're supporting Project Veritas, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| I mean, I just, every day, every time I pay attention to what they do, I learn something. | ||
| I want to make sure that you guys all benefit from James O'Keefe and the whole team as well. | ||
| We'll be right back. | ||
| We're going to have Terry Schilling and Kane. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| With Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Welcome back, War and Pandemic, Boxing Day Special. | ||
| I'm Raheem Kassam, here in for Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Got Natalie Winters in studio, Senior Reporter at the National Pulse, and at Natalie G. Winters on Twitter, so long as they don't ban her. | ||
| Are you on anything else yet? | ||
| You gotta get, you gotta have a parlour and stuff. | ||
| I know. | ||
| What's gonna happen? | ||
| They're gonna kick you off at some point. | ||
| At some point, they've been Twitter attending too many conferences alongside China, and I've been exposing them for doing that. | ||
| I think it's pretty curious that they haven't banned me yet, considering I love to highlight their links to China. | ||
| Can I say one thing about the New York Times, though, for this segment? | ||
| I think you guys are being too easy on them because it's not just anonymous sources that they fumble. | ||
| They even fail when they have identifiable or identified sources. | ||
| I believe a couple weeks ago, they were forced to retract an entire podcast series called Caliphate, where they based that off of interviews with an alleged Canadian ISIS terrorist, something along those lines. | ||
| And interestingly enough, other journalists at the Washington Post, and I believe Newsweek, I think, had actually flagged the interviews. | ||
| They said, hey, I don't know if you should necessarily be going with this guy. | ||
| He doesn't seem too credible. | ||
| Lo and behold, a few months later, Canadian officials actually launched an investigation into the guy, had a warrant out for his arrest for basically fabricating his involvement with ISIS. | ||
| So the New York Times was forced to publish a complete retraction of the podcast, which won several awards in the journalism community. | ||
| Nonetheless, it was all premised on false information. | ||
| That's a good point, but this is, after all, the outlet that published Mein Kampf, unredacted, and, you know, was very pro-slavery as well. | ||
| A lot of people forget the history of the New York Times, and I think at one point I may be wrong about this, but I think at one point they called post-prison Hitler wise. | ||
| I'm pretty sure. | ||
| Well, they're definitely continuing with that legacy, considering that they still publish Chinese Communist Party officials in their op-eds, yet remember, I believe it was during when the riots were really, really bad, they refused, or they rather retracted Senator Tom Cotton's op-ed because it was too tough the way that it talked about how our law enforcement forces to deal with these rioters who were destroying businesses and hurting innocent Americans, yet they publish repeatedly, at | ||
| least in 2020, op-eds from a host of different officials from the Chinese Communist Party, which is kind of curious when you look now, like I said earlier in the show, they're now reporting that media outlets were integral for the Chinese Communist Party's disinformation campaign to kind of quash any narratives about the coronavirus, tracing it back to their doing, whether it came from a P4 lab or wherever it came from. | ||
| But now you kind of see how they functioned within that ecosystem, really helping to amplify the voices of the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| Okay, look, I'm going to show you something on my screen here, Natalie, and you just reminded me of this. | ||
| Remember all the Russia stuff, all the crazed Russia stuff, all of the leveling the charge at the MAGA, America First People's door of, hey, you know, we're responsible somehow for colluding and amplifying Vladimir Putin's concerns. | ||
| Okay, let me ask you this. | ||
| What does this say? | ||
| what is this in front of me here from actually an op ed in the new york times written by none other than vladimir putin titled a plea for caution from russia in twenty thirteen eleven on september eleventh twenty thirteen by vladimir v putin and it says op ed contributor So New York Times contributor Vladimir Putin is the way we'll be referring to him from now on. | ||
| Well, also I think maybe one of my favorite stories from 2020 that we put up at the National Pulse. | ||
| I'm a little spotty on the details, but if I remember it correctly, an article that we had written I believe it had something to do with transgenders, and I think it was maybe how the Biden Foundation had supported an 18-month-old transgender child, which is absurd, and I'm sure Terry will talk more about that when he joins us. | ||
| But they had linked us as part of a Russian disinformation campaign, and if you remember the site that they accused of linking to National Pulse articles, you did an analysis of the web traffic that that site had received, that all these establishment outlets like Reuters had really portrayed as a Big, evil, scary Russian disinformation site. | ||
| Well, the amount of traffic that the website actually got, I believe it was, you know, sample size too small. | ||
| It didn't register on any of these websites. | ||
| So yeah, they're really looking for monsters in places that they do not exist. | ||
| I think you could probably swap out China or the Chinese Communist Party in every sentence that establishment media talking heads say when they talk about foreign interference, and that would probably stand. | ||
| Here's the cutting. | ||
| I found the cutting, by the way, from the New York Times. | ||
| The headline is, Hitler tamed by prison. | ||
| Released on parole, he is expected to return to Austria. | ||
| Copyright 1924 by the New York Times Company. | ||
| By wireless to the New York Times. | ||
| Berlin, December 20th. | ||
| Adolf Hitler, once the demigod of the reactionary extremists, was released on parole from imprisonment at Fortress Landsberg, Bavaria today and immediately left In an auto for Munich, he looked a much sadder and wiser man today than last spring when he, with Ludendorff and other radical extremists, appeared before a Munich court charged with conspiracy to overthrow the government. | ||
| His behaviour during imprisonment convinced the authorities that, like his political organisation known as the Völkischer, was no longer to be feared. | ||
| It is believed he will retire to private life and return to Austria, the country of his birth. | ||
| And I also remember that at one point the New York Times, I believe it was in 1939, but they had published a glowing piece on Hitler's interior design savviness, specifically his mountain home. | ||
| They really liked the style that he had. | ||
| So frankly, I think the New York Times, at least previously, their editorial line was kinder to Adolf Hitler than Why aren't they then to Donald Trump? | ||
| Certainly, why aren't they cancelled? | ||
| I want to bring Terry Schilling in here. | ||
| Terry Schilling is the Executive Director of the American Principles Project, and my good buddy. | ||
| Terry, welcome back to the show. | ||
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Hey, thanks for having me, Raheem. | |
| I love coming on War Room Pandemic. | ||
| It's a great show. | ||
| We are the number one political show in the country, I'll have you know, Terry. | ||
| Hey, let me ask you this question. | ||
| We asked every guest on this show and it's only the most august guest today. | ||
| We just had James O'Keefe on, we had Nigel Farage on the first hour, Matt Palumbo from the Bongino Report, Jerome Riviere, member of the European Parliament. | ||
| So you're up, big shoes to fill here, and I've asked everybody the question. | ||
| Look, 2020 has been a sucky year for most people, but We are here to find the good, we are here to identify the good, to try and build off the good. | ||
| So what have been the highlights of 2020 for Terry Schilling and for the American Principles Project? | ||
| It can be personal, it can be professional. | ||
| Take us away. | ||
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Well, I would start off with the fact that President Donald Trump managed to get 75 million votes, which is around 13 million more than Mitt Romney got in 2012. | |
| It's an incredible feat and no other uh... republican candidate ever gotten that and what that doesn't mean is that in the face of all of this propaganda from the the the so-called mainstream media uh... non-stop twenty four seven hate for donald trump seventy five million american still showed up at the polls devote for him so that's good to me that the american dream is still alive and that if we can fix the voter fraud if we can | ||
| managed to get some form of integrity in our election we can win many elections from here to kingdom come uh... as long as we can control the corruption from the democrats I'd say that's probably the brightest spot of 2020. | ||
| Everything else pretty much stinks. | ||
| I will tell you that And this is something that you and I are involved in. | ||
| It's not just the American Pretzels Project, but with the National Pulse, I have a lot of hope in the future of this country as well, and in the future of the conservative, or I actually don't like the name conservative. | ||
| I think it's more of the American populist movement. | ||
| I have a lot of hope in it. | ||
| You know, American Principles Project raised around $7 million this year. | ||
| The National Pulse is garnering around 5 million viewers every month now. | ||
| Ah, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| Ten! | ||
| Try ten! | ||
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I forgot that it's stellar month already this month. | |
| But listen, there's a real opening to continue growing this movement. | ||
| One of the things that I'll mention for your viewers and listeners. | ||
| is that America Prisons Project started off this year with one simple goal. | ||
| To organize family activists across the country. | ||
| And we started with around 40,000 activists, and we managed to grow our activist list to over 300,000 by the end of this year. | ||
| That's an incredible feat. | ||
| And these are activists who contact their legislators, who send text messages to other voters to make sure they know what's at stake in these elections. | ||
| It's incredible, and we expect to continue to grow. | ||
| So I think that the pro-family movement in politics is growing. | ||
| It's alive. | ||
| I think that America is growing. | ||
| I think it's alive. | ||
| We have a huge fight on our hands to take on the Democrats and the progressives and all of the elites across all of these institutions, but I'm very hopeful in the future of this country, that's for sure. | ||
| Terry, let me ask you this, because you're kind of the primary, or one of the top, pro-family organizations in the United States now, and credit to you guys, you've done an amazing job building up this organization, and all the team there at the American Principles Project, and all of the American Principles Project supporters, and sister organizations, and so on and so forth. | ||
| But I want to ask you this. | ||
| In fact, we've got to go to a quick break in a minute. | ||
| Terry, can we hold you over the break? | ||
| I want to make sure that we answer some of these questions because I think the audience sometimes can think of social conservative groups as kind of stuffy, kind of staid, kind of nerdy, a little bit embarrassing even. | ||
| We have seen some people embarrass themselves from leading organizations on the right in that regard. | ||
| But APP is different and that's why I think APP is getting a lot of traction, a lot of buy-in, a lot of people are supporting on Capitol Hill and out there in the real country as well. | ||
| So Terry, just hang on. | ||
| I won't keep you too much longer. | ||
| I know we're going to get you back to your massive and growing family, but I do want that question answered for the audience. | ||
| Why, you know, why APP is just cooler than the rest and why the family is so important as an issue and something to defend in the United States. | ||
| We're going to be back. | ||
| More War Room Pandemic. | ||
| Greg Manns, Natalie Winters, Raheem Kassam, Terry Schilling and Kane after this break. | ||
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War Room Pandemic with Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| All right, let's jump right back in. | ||
| Terry Schilling is the Executive Director of the American Principles Project, joining us on the line now. | ||
| I just want to wrap with a couple of important points, and then we've got Kane from CitizenFreePress.com, just another one of these websites that's going gangbusters right now. | ||
| So many, so many, I mean, there will be hundreds of millions of views in very short order. | ||
| I think CitizenFreePress had something like 90 million visits in December, probably even more. | ||
| Let's get to Terry. | ||
| Let's wrap with Terry. | ||
| Dude, there's a big audience out there for the family as an issue. | ||
| It seems to be increasingly important to people. | ||
| I think this year has caused us to realize just how much and how important our families are. | ||
| I think something that some people and many people have taken for granted for so long. | ||
| So very quickly, two questions for you. | ||
| Number one, what sets APP apart? | ||
| And maybe you can roll this all into one question. | ||
| Why the family unit? | ||
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So I'll just say that What sets the ADP apart is we're the only group organizing parents and families in politics. | |
| We recognize politics as a driving force in culture. | ||
| It's a way that we can organize and engage and change laws to protect family formation, and the reason that family formation and families are important to America is because the people are the heart and soul of this country, and families are how you get Good people. | ||
| And so when families are falling apart, when people aren't forming families, when they're not getting married, when they're not having children, they're missing something. | ||
| And they're not growing and crafting the next generation of Americans to be freedom lovers. | ||
| And that's what we're experiencing right now. | ||
| They've got no skin in the game, as I say, right? | ||
| They've got no skin in the game. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| And they have no skin in the game, and so they just think about themselves, and they think about the next Xbox that's going to come out, or the next PS5. | ||
| They're not thinking long-term. | ||
| They're not thinking about the national debt. | ||
| They're not thinking about creating the next iPhone, or the next thing that's going to, you know, bring innovation and creation of jobs to this country. | ||
| And so the family is key to America because the people are the key to America. | ||
| And if we don't have strong families, we're going to have a terrible future ahead of us because we're going to have terrible people ahead of us. | ||
| Terry, I agree, and I've said this before, the childless political leaders all across the Western world show us day after day what it looks like to have no skin in the game and to not care about the future and to not care about the nations and the world that we're leaving for the next generations. | ||
| Terry, I want to make sure our audience knows, where can they find more about APP? | ||
| I know it's a membership organization, people can join where? | ||
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They can go. | |
| It's very simple. | ||
| It's AmericanPrinciplesProject.org and click the link to sign up and volunteer. | ||
| Please. | ||
| We need more activists. | ||
| We need more people engaged to protect the family. | ||
| It needs to be the heart of every public policy decision in this country. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| Terry Schilling, Executive Director, American Principles Project. | ||
| Thank you so much for joining us here on this Boxing Day special for War and Pandemic. | ||
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Thanks, Raheem. | |
| Any thoughts, Greg? | ||
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Yeah, I think the American Principles Project is taking up the mantle that Phyllis Shafley started and built that foundation for the cultural movement and the importance of strong families. | |
| Yeah, and I think it's going to be an even stronger year for APP in the next year. | ||
| I want to bring in now somebody who's experienced Just one heck of a year has been building and building for the last, I think, four years now, but really came to fruition in this election year. | ||
| Cain is the founder and editor of CitizenFreePress.com, my favorite aggregator out there. | ||
| He's got just that incredible stack of stories that rolls all day long, every day. | ||
| Cain, welcome back to War and Pandemic. | ||
| Thanks for having me, Rahim. | ||
| It's a pleasure to be here and I'll send it back to you with a little bit of news. | ||
| The President just announced a slew of 20 pardons, including George Papadopoulos and Did I just screw something up? | ||
| No, you're fine, you're fine. | ||
| We had the news of the pardons earlier on this week, and it's been a massive story, and it's been a continuing story ever since we heard about them. | ||
| And I want to understand from you, because you've been getting this for a long time now, In terms of breaking news as regards these people who are so imperative to the media's behavior and targeting of the administration. | ||
| You've seen a lot of this coming down the pipeline. | ||
| And what has it told us? | ||
| What are these pardons we heard about the other day? | ||
| What has it told us about the way the president conducts himself as we reach the January 6th, the big deadline? | ||
| Well, it shows that he's, you know, he's getting things done that have to be done. | ||
| We're talking about three congressmen here who were pardoned in George Papadopoulos. | ||
| Along with some Blackwater people, there's some interesting pardons in there, but it shows that the president is making his own choices and his own decisions as we get closer to January 6th. | ||
| I'll get back to what you asked me before. | ||
| Yeah, it's been a fantastic year for both Citizen Free Press and National Pulse. | ||
| Let's not forget that. | ||
| From my side, quickly, we were 500% in 2019 and another 500% on top of that in 2019. | ||
| You mentioned traffic a minute ago. | ||
| It's actually about, for the last 30 days, it's right at about 95 million. | ||
| So we're getting really, really close to that 100 million mark. | ||
| And I know you're... | ||
| Yeah, I mean, look, you have just started to talk to our audience a little bit here about the site. | ||
| How did you come up with this? | ||
| Did you ever think you were going to get to this point? | ||
| Did you just kind of start off and think to yourself, well, yeah, I'll get there eventually? | ||
| Or did you just think, hey, look, I'm going to have a stab at it. | ||
| If it works, it works. | ||
| You know, it is on fire at the moment, and the audience is what I really like. | ||
| Your comments section, all the people who are there all day, every day, just pushing different stories, and also holding you to account, which, you know, I have that as well within the National Pulse. | ||
| We have our private Discord chat channel, and the members who join up at the site hold us to account. | ||
| Every day. | ||
| And they say, hey, how come you're not covering this story? | ||
| Or, you know, why is there a typo in this one, Natalie? | ||
| And so and so forth. | ||
| McCain, talk to us a little bit more about how, you know, how you came to envision the site, how it's been, how long it's been going, and what can we expect over the next year? | ||
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Sure. | |
| Well, I'll take the last part first. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| Our audiences hold us responsible, and they make sure they let us know in comments. | ||
| My site gets Five to seven thousand comments a day. | ||
| And I read all of those that are addressed to me. | ||
| And so, yeah, people let me know, good or bad, how it's going. | ||
| You asked about the origin. | ||
| You know, in the first interview I did with you now, it's going back three months. | ||
| I really explained it. | ||
| I it's something I always wanted to do. | ||
| And I blindly just thought I could succeed at it. | ||
| I you know, as I've told you, it's been three, almost four years, three and a half plus. | ||
| And there was no real backlash against Drudge at the beginning. | ||
| So when I started, I was really just trying to be an alternative to Drudge. | ||
| Now it's obviously he, uh, uh, you know, he, he abandoned conservatives completely in there and, you know, and there's a lot of attention to Drudge alternatives. | ||
| Um, you know, did I blunt, did I just sort of naively think it could be done? | ||
| Yeah, to be honest, I was it, I thought I could get to 10% of Drudge's traffic. | ||
| Um, But I didn't really think it through, and I didn't understand what it would mean for my life and the fact that it would be close to 1,350 straight days without a single day off, seven days a week, that once you start giving people headlines, the stack, they want it to keep going. | ||
| They don't want it to stop. | ||
| So you asked about where we're going to be. | ||
| We've done a fundraiser here at the end of this year to raise money for our servers and for me to hire a little bit of help, because I imagine we'll probably double again from here in the next 12 months. | ||
| And, you know, then that puts us near a couple hundred million. | ||
| And, you know, if you eliminate Drudge's automatic page refresh, which is responsible for about 50% of his page views, his actual traffic is more in the 300 million range. | ||
| So by the end of next year, we could be getting to 70% of Drudge, which would be unbelievable and unexpected. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Well, I mean, you say unbelievable. | ||
| I believe it and I believe in you and the team you're bringing on to be able to do that. | ||
| I just think you have a better news sense than the contemporary Matt Drudge. | ||
| Anyway, you know, Drudge at his peak was very hard to kind of To have the same energy and nuisance with. | ||
| And I wasn't even around that much at the time to judge that. | ||
| But certainly now, you go to the site and the judge report is not even updated very often anymore. | ||
| It certainly doesn't have the kind of energy and the pace that Citizen Free Press has. | ||
| And I want to make sure that the entire audience knows to go to citizenfreepress.com all day, every day. | ||
| Keep it open in your browser, refresh it often. | ||
| That's what I do. | ||
| Go to it on your phone. | ||
| I do it on the move and all of that as well. | ||
| Okay, so you've experienced a bump at Traffic Gear. | ||
| You've seen how, I mean, a lot of the stories that we've been doing from here in the War Room and from the National Pulse and from all these different new sites that are popping up around. | ||
| And you've seen and you've watched the news media landscape change, but you're actually from kind of old broadcast media, right? | ||
| So you have some pretty unique insights, being somebody who's, you know, on the political right, come out of kind of the mainstream corporate side of things. | ||
| How do you see these people's behavior today? | ||
| And do you think, I keep saying, if Joe Biden gets his steal through and takes office that these reporters are going to have a shock to their system because they've screamed stupid questions at President Trump for the last four years maybe they think they're going to do that to Biden and then their editors are going to be like no actually we don't treat the Democrats that way and all these like highfalutin reporters who yeah you know I hold power to account | ||
| are going to be told that no you don't We, the editors and the corporate interests that run these newspapers and run these networks, will decide what gets published. | ||
| Do you think the media's going to be in for a shock if Biden's the victor on January 20th? | ||
| There's no doubt it's going to be a Everything's going to change. | ||
| You know, I've been trying to anticipate it. | ||
| You asked what was my perspective from having been in the media, especially sort of in the late 80s and early 90s when CNN was getting started. | ||
| And I'll tell you, it's astonishing. | ||
| What I have built up is 30 years of anger. | ||
| If you want to know the truth, the idea that this is what it's come to, you know, I remember a time when, when, um, when Gary Hart, a Democrat was who had an extramarital affair in 1987 was Was chased around by a dozen mainstream media reporters trying to get to the truth. | ||
| It just wouldn't happen now. | ||
| And I don't mean the fact that that was about an infidelity, but the fact is they're no longer interested in exposing any bit of the truth about Democrats. | ||
| We know that 95% of the media identifies as liberal or progressive and they give to Democrats. | ||
| And it's never become more obvious than these last four years. | ||
| And I can't, you know, I'm sort of, I don't have an answer for what it's going to look like in the next four if Biden pulls off this deal. | ||
| What will Stephen Colbert do every night? | ||
| What will Anna Navarro have to talk about? | ||
| What will all these people who have made their entire fortunes and livelihoods on the back of hating the orange man and hating, in my view, the greatest president for America in the last 150 years, what will they do? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| How will CNN handle it? | ||
| That's the other thing. | ||
| Their ratings are going to crash if Biden wins. | ||
| Lefty media has exploded just because of the interest from the left, the panicked, breathless interest every day in President Trump. | ||
| So if President Trump isn't in office, there's going to be a lot less interest and you're going to have a lot of people laid off, I think. | ||
| I think that's right. | ||
| And you know, it's a really difficult situation because nobody ever wishes job losses on people, but the way these people have behaved and the way they've treated us for so very long, I at least don't feel any sympathy towards mainstream media people who are going to be out of work as a result of this. | ||
| Hey Cain, can you hang over the break? | ||
| We're going to come back in just a second. | ||
| We're going to take a quick commercial break here. | ||
| War and Pandemic, the Boxing Day special. | ||
| Greg Manns, Nathalie Winters, Raheem Kassam return with Cain in just a moment. | ||
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War Room Pandemic with Stephen K Bannon. | |
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host Stephen K Bannon. | ||
| All right welcome back and I want to reiterate what we said at the beginning of this show it's Boxing Day which uh traditionally is the day that you take a literal it's not a it's not a pugilism kind of thing it's a literal box | ||
| And, uh, you put stuff in it that you don't need, uh, that can go to Goodwill, or that you want to give to another family, or family member, or neighbor, or somebody who's struggling, who doesn't have what you have, um, and that's, that's kind of where, you know, Boxing Day was, it was always the richer families who were giving to their, their servants in a lot of senses, their employees, and, uh, and I want to maybe bring that tradition. | ||
| I know a lot of people do already. | ||
| Are you going to be giving me anything? | ||
| Yeah, you'll get the box of my used stuff. | ||
| You can have my old clothes. | ||
| You need them. | ||
| You can take my old Xbox. | ||
| You know? | ||
| How about that? | ||
| Yeah, you're welcome. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| I want to bring Cain back in here. | ||
| Cain, if you need something old from me, I've got a reporter here that might find a better home with you. | ||
| Cain, welcome back to the program. | ||
| Just before we let you go, I want to, you know, just make mention again of CitizenFreePress.com and all the amazing work you're doing. | ||
| Well, that's a good question. | ||
| see the New Year going for you? What particularly, I know you're going to hire some more staff and keep building as you said in the last segment, but what particularly do you feel is missing or that you want to build into the site and how can the audience participate more with what you guys are building? Well that's a good question. I think you know it's the stack so and it makes sense when you compare CitizenFP to Drudge. | ||
| You talked about how Drudge is just kind of phoning it in these days, right? | ||
| The site isn't updating very often. | ||
| Perhaps he's doing 40, 45 links a day. | ||
| I'm trying to do 100 a day now, as it is. | ||
| In the new year, when I have help and when the server is upgraded, we're going to be looking to running headlines 24 hours a day, essentially. | ||
| We'll try to post headlines. | ||
| Between midnight Eastern and 8 a.m. | ||
| Eastern, we'll try to post 40 to 45 new headlines every day. | ||
| So it should bring our total up to about 150. | ||
| So we're just going to keep expanding on what we're doing already, draw people to the site, to the stack, and, you know, and dare them not to become addicted. | ||
| It's the kind of thing, look, as we've said before, it looks like a seventh grader could have designed the site. | ||
| And that's okay with me. | ||
| That's completely okay. | ||
| It's really just about the stack at the top and the fact that all new stories go to the top. | ||
| So you can find anything new really, really quickly. | ||
| And I think that's part of the reason, the reason why my, my visitors visit so many times per day, because it loads in a quarter second, less than a megabyte. | ||
| And, and there are your brand new headlines. | ||
| So it's going to be more of the same 150 a day and 24 hours a day. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| Amazing work. | ||
| And we're so glad you came along to fill that void and that you've been working on that, working so hard. | ||
| I think I speak for the entire audience when we say thank you for bringing the real news into a real aggregator. | ||
| Cain, we'll talk in the new year. | ||
| I look forward to it. | ||
| Happy holidays to both you and Natalie. | ||
| These are two of the best friendships I've developed this year, and I look forward to fantastic success for War Room and The National Pulse in 2021. | ||
| And we wish you nothing less than the very same and more. | ||
| Cain, thank you so much. | ||
| And all the best to your family as well. | ||
| I want to bring in, we really lost I think 10 odd minutes here now, bring in Natalie and Greg back into the conversation. | ||
| Lots that we've kind of talked about today and reflected on. | ||
| But of course, there is a year ahead for you guys as well, not just our guests. | ||
| So apart from a pay rise, Natalie, what are you looking forward to? | ||
| Yeah, good. | ||
| Zero is a big, big number. | ||
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| Okay, alright. | ||
| How about I start here, okay? | ||
| Let me give you... Thanks for asking, by the way, guys, for the New Year. | ||
| Look, number one, I'm very upbeat about the way that the conservative movement and the MAGA movement, the America First movement, has kind of handled all the gaslighting of the fraud and the steal, you know, got out there and been active, not let themselves get dejected or depressed by any of this. | ||
| Because guess what? | ||
| That's going to get worse. | ||
| They're just going to keep ramping up. | ||
| You did something to them in 2016, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| You broke them. | ||
| You broke them. | ||
| Look at the people you broke out there. | ||
| The Hollywood stars, Kathy Griffins, and the new stars. | ||
| What's that real nutbag's name? | ||
| Oberman? | ||
| Keith Olbermann? | ||
| Look at the way they comport themselves. | ||
| You broke them. | ||
| And so they now are trying to break you. | ||
| They will try and break your spirit. | ||
| They'll try and break your hopes. | ||
| They'll try and break your families. | ||
| They'll try and break your traditions. | ||
| They will try and break your country. | ||
| They'll try and break your religion, your philosophy, the very nature of what it is to be you. | ||
| And I'm just so grateful. | ||
| I realize it's not Thanksgiving. | ||
| I'm just so grateful that you guys are out there fighting every single day. | ||
| I implore you to do more of that. | ||
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Yeah, and to that end, Raneem, we've talked about engaging people and taking action. | |
| And one of the things that Jack, Maxie, and I have talked about on War Room is this return to a citizen-statesman component of American politics. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
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So people that weren't involved in politics get involved in public service, go and do their civic duty as elected officials and then return to their private lives. | |
| So this is an opportunity for people that I have seen what's been going on in politics and think, oh, I can't make a difference. | ||
| Or in terms of the election, my vote didn't count. | ||
| But getting involved, running for office, people that may not have thought that could have been a future for them to actually take this time to take that leap and actually go into public office. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Natalie, if, you know, the War Room, maybe one of the things that we get out in the New Year out of the War Room is convincing Steve to drop the pandemic part, but hey, you know, we'll fight, we'll take each battle as it comes. | ||
| I guess you could summarise your next year in three letters. | ||
| Well, I'm cautiously optimistic. | ||
| I think the tide to some extent is turning on the Chinese Communist Party, at least in the sense that there is a growing movement of people who understand the threat that this regime poses. | ||
| I really think that the fact that that Eric Swalwell story got the traction that it did, and really that it even permeated kind of the cultural aspect in the sense that you saw a lot of memes about his involvement with the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| I think that people are kind of starting to take to China, they're understanding the threat that China poses to the United States. | ||
| But just to add to what you were saying, I really think that 2020 was a transformational year in the sense that we've seen dominion voting systems exposed. | ||
| We gotta roll. | ||
| We're out. | ||
| We're out. | ||
| I'm sorry, Nancy, to cut you off. | ||
| We've got to get you back in here more often here on The War Room. | ||
| Everybody, go have some leftovers, some eggnog. | ||
| We'll see you again very soon. | ||
| Thank you for tuning in. | ||
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