Dec. 26, 2020 - Bannon's War Room
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Well, the virus has now killed more than 100 people in China, and new cases have been confirmed around the world. | |
| You don't want to frighten the American public. | ||
| France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans. | ||
| But you need to prepare for and assume... Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China. | ||
| That this is going to be a real serious problem. | ||
| France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on. | ||
| Health officials are investigating more than a hundred possible cases in the US. | ||
| Germany, a man has contracted the virus. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus. | ||
| Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500. | ||
| We have to prepare for the worst, always, because if you don't and the worst happens, War Room. | ||
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Pandemic. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Welcome to War Room Pandemic, a very special Boxing Day edition. | ||
| That's the day after Christmas Day. | ||
| That is the 26th of December, the year of our Lord 2020. | ||
| Broadcasting from Capitol Hill in your nation's capital, Washington D.C., got Greg Manns in studio with me, Natalie Winters, two of the best researchers in the game. | ||
| Uh, my wingmen, for these two hours, I want to welcome you to a very special show, and I want to encourage you to make sure that you are sharing, you are subscribing, you are liking, you are making sure as many people as possible are watching this, because I still get a lot of stick from Steve and the rest of the team about last year's Boxing Day Special, which I would say, Greg, was pretty darn good. | ||
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Yeah, it was up there in the rankings for a while before they were overtaken till pandemic. | |
| I think we need to fix Greg's mic, Mr. Producer. | ||
| Can we get the mic on Greg Manns? | ||
| Just a small technical hitch to kick us off here on Boxing Day. | ||
| I want to bring our first guest in here. | ||
| Nigel Farage is Mr. Brexit himself. | ||
| Joining us down the line from a locked Down London, Nigel, thanks for joining us here. | ||
| I mean, I'm surprised you can, given all the restrictions. | ||
| Surely they're going to now say, oh, well, you can spread the virus over Skype, so you can't do any of that anymore. | ||
| Yeah, singing's banned, though. | ||
| We're not allowed to sing, but we can still speak for the moment. | ||
| Although, I'm now in something called Tier 4, and probably within weeks it'll be Tier 5 or Tier 6. | ||
| You know, Christmas, family Christmas, cancelled. | ||
| Nobody allowed to come into your house whatsoever. | ||
| And we're not even supposed to leave home unless it's for essential journeys. | ||
| So we are locked down yet again. | ||
| And I have to say, these lockdowns don't appear to me to be actually working. | ||
| Right, I mean, the cases continue to go up and the hospitalizations continue to go up in the United Kingdom, even though everybody's locked down. | ||
| If you're not locked down, you're forced to wear a mask everywhere, maybe two or three, whatever it is now. | ||
| I mean, you've got to understand, for the American audience watching this, Level of restriction and totalitarianism in the United Kingdom is nothing short of Orwellian, is nothing short of airstrip one style, you know, shut everybody up, memory hole the things that are to be forgotten, such as, I think it was Vox, left-wing news outlet, Nigel, that immediately said in March, masks don't work, don't worry about masks, we don't need masks to stop | ||
| Uh, the virus quietly deleted that, uh, that article and that tweet, didn't issue a correction or anything like that. | ||
| So, I mean, you know, this is a Boxing Day special, typically we ask, what are the highlights of the year? | ||
| Are there any, Nigel? | ||
| Oh yes, goodness gracious me! | ||
| On, at 11pm, on the 31st of January, I stood up on a stage in Parliament Square, And I counted down 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 and then the fireworks went off and Big Ben bonged and that was it. | ||
| After 47 years we'd left the European Union and I'd been campaigning for us to leave for 30 of those years. | ||
| So that was an absolutely massive highlight and whilst there were still some details To tidy up. | ||
| We've left. | ||
| We're not going back. | ||
| It's the biggest constitutional change in Britain for over three centuries. | ||
| So that was a massive highlight. | ||
| And the funny thing was, it was on that day, unbeknown to me at the time, that we had our first diagnosed case of COVID-19 in the United Kingdom. | ||
| And since then, things have been pretty miserable, Raheem, I have to say. | ||
| The only good thing was that in April, when we were first completely locked down, we had the best spring in England for over 50 years. | ||
| So the weather was nice. | ||
| And I got a dog. | ||
| So that was quite nice on a personal level. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, I got a nice black Labrador. | ||
| Black Labs matter, you know. | ||
| And so that was all good. | ||
| That was all good. | ||
| But I have to say, I realised by September, October, That this wasn't going away and that the government policy of lockdown and their mentality towards it was not going to change. | ||
| And so I was pessimistic. | ||
| About what would happen when the kids went back to school, what would happen when the usual coronaviruses start moving around. | ||
| You know, every autumn, you know, common colds afflict millions of people. | ||
| Flu afflicts certainly hundreds of thousands of people in the United Kingdom. | ||
| So we get these coronaviruses every single year. | ||
| I feared it was going to be difficult. | ||
| If you'd said to me that Christmas would be cancelled, if you'd said to me there'd be roadblocks, In parts of the United Kingdom, where police stop you and ask where you're going and whether your journey is essential. | ||
| If you'd asked me all of those things, I would not have believed you. | ||
| It's extraordinary, and Natalie and Greg, feel free to jump in at any point. | ||
| So what is the next year portend? | ||
| Let's imagine a world where the virus is diminishing, as we're told it will, if the right number of people and the right people in the right categories get their vaccinations. | ||
| I mean, I'm not particularly keen on all of that, but we'll stay away from that. | ||
| For now, let's just imagine it goes the way the experts say it's going to go, which they've been wrong about almost everything since this, but let's imagine. | ||
| And we start to see a little bit of freedom re-enter our lives in the early and middle parts of next year, a little bit of getting back to normal. | ||
| What's on the agenda for Nigel Farage and a post-Brexit Britain? | ||
| To get back to the pub. | ||
| It's very simple. | ||
| They've closed the pub. | ||
| I mean, I can't go to the pub. | ||
| I mean, I can't meet people. | ||
| I can't talk. | ||
| I can't gossip. | ||
| I mean, it's horrific. | ||
| It's like living under a form of house arrest. | ||
| I mean, on a more serious note, what the stock markets are telling us is that it's all going to be great. | ||
| Everything's going to be fine. | ||
| The global economies will boom next year. | ||
| And this is all based on the idea, number one, that the vaccine absolutely works. | ||
| And number two, that we can distribute it sufficiently and speedily enough to get life back to some semblance of normality. | ||
| Now look, the jabs we're using at the moment, they have not had particularly long trials, but let's hope and pray they are the solution. | ||
| But you've got to give everybody two separate sets of inoculation. | ||
| On the current form, It'll be at least six months before we've vaccinated enough people for life under this government to get back to normal. | ||
| So whatever good things are coming in 2021, they're a long way away. | ||
| But I also do see some warnings. | ||
| Governments have borrowed and spent In a way we've not seen since 1945. | ||
| We were doing this in World War Two when we were taking on the tyranny of Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan. | ||
| We've not borrowed money like it since then. | ||
| We found new creative ways to almost invent money. | ||
| At central bank level. | ||
| And I think all this talk, you know, read the financial pages, it's all boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, it's all going to be fantastic. | ||
| And I think my fear going ahead, maybe not just for 2021, but for the next couple of years, is if we do get an economic pickup, we're going to get a return to inflation, something we haven't seen for three decades. | ||
| Nigel, fair warnings, I think, and I think, you know, you're somebody who's accurately read The Ruins on this stuff for a very, very long time. | ||
| I want to make sure, I know Greg has a comment and question here as well, but just before that, and we'll repeat it at the end of this interview as well, you've still been a busy boy. | ||
| Where can people find more of your work? | ||
| Where can they subscribe to your channel? | ||
| I know you're putting out just quality content, and Nigel Farage is the type of Uh, you know, Kameem Sybil, uh, prophet that you don't want to miss the, uh, the wise words of. | ||
| If you want to see everything I'm doing, just Google me. | ||
| Go to the website. | ||
| It's all there. | ||
| Yeah, I'm doing Facebook. | ||
| I'm doing YouTube. | ||
| I'm doing Twitter. | ||
| I'm doing Instagram. | ||
| I'm making quite a lot of documentary films that I put out. | ||
| I've done a lot of those over the course of the last year. | ||
| I'm going to go on doing all of those things in 2021. | ||
| And actually, in terms of social media, in terms of politics and current affairs, I've got the biggest, most engaged audience in the whole of the UK. | ||
| So I must be getting something right somewhere. | ||
| Yeah, I think absolutely. | ||
| Greg? | ||
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Yeah, I think Nigel makes a great point when he was talking about going to the pub and taking a look at... | |
| Of course. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But the social aspect that these lockdowns and the emotional toll that it has taken on people, rising cases of depression and anxiety and that lack of human interaction has really hit people hard and another reason to really open things up and get back to that aspect of our lives. | ||
| I think that's right. | ||
| I mean, you know, the UK has had a Minister for Loneliness in the past. | ||
| Can I just jump in there, Greg, and say this? | ||
| What was said to me a few days ago would have been said in millions of families in the UK. | ||
| My mother said, I can't have Christmas with my children and grandchildren and indeed great grandchildren and I might not be here next year. | ||
| And that conversation has been going on within families across the United Kingdom. | ||
| I've got to tell you, it's pretty heartbreaking stuff. | ||
| It really, really is. | ||
| Before we let you go, Nigel, I've got a quick question about the future of the United Kingdom. | ||
| Of course, many, many Americans, and we do have a predominantly American audience, the number one politics podcast in the country right now, we're in a pandemic. | ||
| They see the United Kingdom as a historic ally, they're Anglophiles in terms of culture, they love you, they love the idea of Brexit and independence and sovereignty, all the things that they cherish and have fought for and continue to fight for in a lot of ways, but I fear That Boris Johnson is not the man he's sold as here in the United States. | ||
| He's not the man that people like Dan Hannan, this fraudulent conservative, has tried to sell him as here in the United States. | ||
| So where is Britain going to be in terms of allyship with the United States in the next few years? | ||
| Well, look, I don't think Boris is the problem. | ||
| And I mean, I do agree with your criticisms. | ||
| You know, Boris talks a big game but never delivers. | ||
| He sort of goes back to being a metro liberal at the first sign of criticism. | ||
| But he is instinctively pro-American. | ||
| Don't make any mistake about that. | ||
| He is. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Now, the truth of it is, not just the United Kingdom, But the English-speaking world, those of us that believe in common law and shared values around the world, we have lost, I think, the greatest ally we could ever have had in modern times in Donald Trump. | ||
| You know, he may not be everyone's cup of tea in terms of style and performance, but he believes in all of those right values. | ||
| With him gone and with Biden in the White House, it isn't Boris that's the problem for the special relationship. | ||
| It's actually the incoming administration, because Biden is pro-EU. | ||
| He's pro-global government. | ||
| He thinks Brexit's a mistake. | ||
| He supports some of the very wild shores of Irish nationalism. | ||
| And don't forget, he was the vice president. | ||
| When Obama came here in 2016 and said, if you dare vote Brexit, you will go to the back of the line. | ||
| So I think that the good relationships we've had for the last four years are going to be put on hold. | ||
| But I would say this to people, however disappointed you may be in the outcome of those elections, remember this. | ||
| None of this would have happened without coronavirus. | ||
| None of this would have happened without postal voting. | ||
| And I've seen what large-scale postal voting does in terms of distorting results and giving very poor, frankly, election results. | ||
| And yet, I don't think Donald Trump's going away. | ||
| I don't think Trump's ethos will disappear. | ||
| I think he has now become the mainstream of the American Republican Party. | ||
| And I would say to people, Don't give up. | ||
| Keep battling. | ||
| Keep fighting. | ||
| Keep donating. | ||
| Get ready for the midterms. | ||
| And remember, you've won seats in the House, you've held the Senate, you've won seats right across the country. | ||
| The era of Trumpism is not over. | ||
| It's a temporary pause. | ||
| Keep hopeful. | ||
| Nigel Farage, thank you so much for joining us here today on this very special Boxing Day special. | ||
| Hold the line is the motto of The War Room and I must add the editorial position of The War Room is that the second Trump term is coming. | ||
| We've got plenty more challenges ahead, plenty more court cases. | ||
| The 6th of January, we're going to be hearing a lot from Vice President Pence. | ||
| So I know what the BBC is saying and I know what they're saying all around the world, but we hold the line and we hold on to hope. | ||
| Nigel Farage, thank you so much for joining us here on The War Room. | ||
| Be back in just a moment with more great guests for you here on this Boxing Day special. | ||
| See you in a second. | ||
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War Room Pandemic with Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Welcome back to War Room Pandemic. | ||
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| We've got Greg Manns, the engine room of the War Room, and Natalie Winters, the engine room of the National Pulse, here in the studio with me for this very special Boxing Day special. | ||
| What is Boxing Day? | ||
| Why do I keep saying Boxing Day? | ||
| almost as i like saying boxing day but also it is a at very very special historical traditional day in the united kingdom where i come from if you couldn't tell and uh... it's typically the day where richer people uh... will literally box up either things that they don't need or things that they've been given they don't want and gift them uh... make offerings it's also known as offering day uh... to people who are less fortunate than them to perhaps | ||
| i don't know if we can bring the tradition back here in the united states but perhaps used today to to go around the house put a box together of things that you might not need It doesn't have to be anything particularly fancy or special. | ||
| I know Americans are very, very generous people anyway in terms of charity. | ||
| They're I think the most charitable nation in the world or definitely up there. | ||
| And, uh, and that's what I'll be doing as well, uh, later on today on Boxing Day, is making sure that, that things that we get, you know, we don't just add them. | ||
| We don't just, you know, materialism is, is, is, so becomes less and less of our day-to-day lives, and I think that's something that the pandemic has taught us as well, and the behavior of this Governments across the Western world have taught us, you know, the $600 pittance that they're throwing at us is kind of beating materialism out of us. | ||
| So take a moment today, if you can, to help somebody less fortunate than you. | ||
| I just want to bring Jérôme Rivière onto the show now. | ||
| Member of the European Parliament, part of the Ascendant Rassemblement Nationale party in France. | ||
| We like to make sure we're covering international news here in the War Room. | ||
| I think the American legacy corporate media does a particularly bad job of it and only services Kind of the globalist news that backs up their social justice mantras here in the United States. | ||
| So we like to bring the other side of the argument from the other side of the pond to the audience here, and we're grateful for everybody who helps us do so, including Jérôme. | ||
| Jérôme, welcome, and I hope you had a happy Christmas. | ||
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Thank you, Ryan. | |
| Yes, it was wonderful. | ||
| I spent it with the family, which is always a nice thing, especially in this time of fear, because COVID is mainly about fear. | ||
| Being able to be together with the families was, at least to me, but I'm sure to all your audience, is an essential point. | ||
| So Jerome, I mean, really what we do with these Boxing Day specials is talk about whether or not there were highlights for you this year, and it's an incredibly hard year for that, but we just had Nigel Farage on, he can still find, you know, some of the goodness out there, some of the goodness in people, some of the good things that have happened, and then also reflecting on where you see the world going over the next year. | ||
| So let's start with 2020. | ||
| I know it's been a rough old year, For a lot of us, for most people out there, and there's been a lot of loss, there's been a lot of suffering, there's been a lot of totalitarianism and power grabs by government, and frankly a lot of spitting in the face of the public. | ||
| The same public that spat in the face of the establishment four years ago. | ||
| But it's also been a good year and a growth year for your party, for your movement. | ||
| Take us wherever you want to go here. | ||
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You know, if I were a conspirationist, and I'm not, I would say that the Chinese virus, the COVID virus, was made on purpose to be able to give the globalists some kind of tool in order to claim back what they are losing, because in fact, the people are regaining power. | |
| And it is the fact in the United States. | ||
| I mean, if you look at the results of the election, I don't know what will come up in a few days on January 6. | ||
| But no matter what the outcome is, there is an amazing number of Americans that decided to vote for President Trump. | ||
| He has embodied a new Republican Party, which for once now is a party of the people. | ||
| We have the same thing all over Europe. | ||
| The Populist Party, the People's Party, are really claiming more and more ground. | ||
| But Covid came and the government in place, at least in Europe, and this is the case with Macron in France, decided to use that and to use the fear to be able to reign in. | ||
| And they even use this word, they are reigning in the people. | ||
| Because they tell us that this is terrible, this is extremely scary, that we're all going to die, that it's doomsday coming, unless you listen to your government, do what the government is saying. | ||
| Whereas when you look at it, it is indeed a terrible disease. | ||
| It is indeed something that we have to fight for, but, you know, risks, disease risks, come with life. | ||
| And we have to understand that we have to grab our lives back. | ||
| In France, we're fighting against some specific things, and it happened a few days before Christmas. | ||
| Macron and his government decided that they wanted to make the vaccine mandatory. | ||
| They wanted to prevent people that did not have a vaccine to be able to travel, to be able to go out to restaurants. | ||
| And as much as I'm a believer in vaccination, which is a good thing, it's up to each person to decide whether they want that in their body or not. | ||
| And the fact that they are that the fact that they are doing that, especially in Europe, where the condition is a condition in which the vaccine are being acquired. | ||
| It is acquired through the European Union Commission. | ||
| They refuse to disclose the price. | ||
| They refuse to disclose who negotiated what. | ||
| So we don't know if there are some some specific interest. | ||
| It is something that interrogate us and that shows How we have a rise of soft totalitarianism. | ||
| I call it soft because they don't have camps in which they put us yet. | ||
| But it is totalitarianism because they don't allow you to talk. | ||
| And in France, Professor Raoult, which is, I think, quite known to some American listeners, is a professor that believes in the use of hydroxychloroquine, is a very well-known infectiologist, is being sued By the by the syndication of doctors, because he is expressing doubt about the fact that it is necessary to have vaccination. | ||
| So you can see that there is the globalist movement is really scared about what's going on. | ||
| They understand that the people are thinking, that the people do not believe that it's a free for all, that having mass migration is a good thing, that having no trade barriers with China is a good thing. | ||
| So there are many reasons to hope. | ||
| 2020 was tough. | ||
| 2020 will be remembered as a bad year altogether. | ||
| But I think it paves the way for people reclaiming their countries. | ||
| You know, we have Brexit. | ||
| Brexit is finally done in 2020. | ||
| So I think, as far as you are concerned, as a UK citizen, it is something that you have been fighting for, that the British have been fighting for. | ||
| And it is great that it is finally happening. | ||
| And I believe that the European Union, which I really don't like the EU, the Commission itself, I love Europe, my party, Marine Le Pen, we love Europe, we believe that nations should be together organizing themselves. | ||
| But we don't believe in some kind of supranational power telling us what to do, what type of gunpowder to use, what type of food to eat. | ||
| I think that EU is having huge setbacks. | ||
| And those are great things. | ||
| So yes, I believe that We have to look forward to some good things going on in 2021. | ||
| And who knows, maybe in a few days there will be some legal discussion and decision that will change everything for the outcome of the U.S. | ||
| election as far as it is understood right now. | ||
| Look, I mean, I understand the way the European press have covered this election, very much like the American press are covering the election in 2020 as well. | ||
| The foregone conclusions all along the way. | ||
| And of course, of course, it's unprecedented what we are expecting. | ||
| and hoping to happen in the early part of the year. But isn't that what, you know, you're looking from across the pond, and I looked at America from across the pond for all my adult life until I was 30 years old and chose to come here and work here. And America is about kind of the unprecedented, right? The surprises, the shocks, the crazy things that come out of, you know, what can only come out of such a crazy place. And I think Americans have to | ||
| embrace that, and they also have to fight along those lines. | ||
| Jerome, I want to ask you, you've got some elections coming up in your country. | ||
| Could you walk our audience through, we've got about three minutes here, walk our audience through how that works and what you guys are hoping for? | ||
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Before going to that, I want to talk about constitution, because you say that the U.S. | |
| is about unprecedented, but you have one amazing tool. | ||
| You have one U.S. | ||
| constitution, and your constitution was established in 1776. | ||
| In France, our first constitution was established in 1789, so basically around the same time. | ||
| We are at our fifth constitution. | ||
| You have to understand that we switch constitution often. | ||
| In the United States, as much as you are unpredictable, as much as you do some things that baffle the world, you stick to one law, one thing that holds the people together. | ||
| And I hope this is what is going to be enforced for this election, is that you have one constitution that decides on how things are implemented. | ||
| So, you know, as much as you are unpredictable, your country is a very solid country with this ability to hold the people together with one common law, which is the constitution. | ||
| I just wanted to mention that because sometimes we think that, you know... Sorry. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| We have actually... We've run out of time now, Jérôme. | ||
| So we're gonna have to get you back very soon to walk us through what we can expect in the French elections, the upcoming elections. | ||
| But you guys are fighting incredibly hard, Jérôme. | ||
| Just tell the audience how they can follow you. | ||
| What's your social media? | ||
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On Twitter, on Jérôme, J-E-R-O-M-E underscore R-I-V-I-E-R-E. | |
| That's on Facebook and through the ID group, which is the group that fights for the same ideas at the European Parliament. | ||
| ID group. | ||
| All right, Jérôme Rivière, thanks once again for joining us here, a member of the European Parliament, which is one of the leading voices over there in Europe against globalism and for his nation. | ||
| We'll be back with more War and Pandemic in just a moment. | ||
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War Room Pandemic with Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Welcome back to War Room Pandemic. | ||
| I hope Father Christmas, or as I think you call him, Santy Claus, brought you everything you guys wanted this Christmas. | ||
| Probably didn't bring us Uh, everything we all wanted, given the state of, uh, state of the lockdowns all across and, and, and the, the steel, the continuing steel. | ||
| And yes, YouTube, I understand that, uh, some sources have called the race for Joe Biden. | ||
| Got it. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| I want to bring in now, and I want to bring in Natalie and Greg into the conversation here for this Boxing Day special, and Matt Palumbo. | ||
| Matt Palumbo is the content manager for the Bongino Report, a great writer himself, the author of Dumb and Dumber, how de Blasio and Cuomo ruined New York. | ||
| I want to make sure that everybody gets that. | ||
| It's coming out soon, right Matt? | ||
| Yeah, it's coming out, well, it's supposed to be January 11th. | ||
| Amazon, I guess, was having some issues and pushed it back a week. | ||
| Either way, after Christmas, which was unfortunate, but it will be coming out soon, yeah. | ||
| All right, we'll keep an eye out for that and make sure we have you back on the show when the book comes out. | ||
| joined us last year for this uh... for this boxing day special and i guess none of us could have quite predicted except it was it was actually on this day during this special that jack maxi kind of got wind of what was going on in wuhan and and and radioed into the to the special war room uh... associates only hotline and said are guys i think we might have a problem uh... with this virus greg yep that was the catalyst for a war room pandemic | ||
| there was uh... so matt i mean it's it's been a heck of a year nobody predicted what we'd be going through uh... what we've seen so far this year Uh, but I'm asking everyone, if there have been highlights, if, if, I mean, and Nigel Farage was on earlier on, and he said, and he said his new dog is one of his highlights. | ||
| So, if there have been highlights for you, what have they been? | ||
| Yeah, well, it's funny, I remember before that episode a year ago, I had to look up what Boxing Day was before I went on the air. | ||
| Same exact thing just happened ten minutes ago. | ||
| So nothing, little has changed. | ||
| Um, you know, it's actually hard to say. | ||
| So you've learned nothing this year? | ||
| Yeah, it's actually hard to say. | ||
| I mean, the past year really feels like one big blur. | ||
| I mean, I think the one thing that stands out, and I guess it's true with all of us, is that, you know, throughout this pandemic, we have been fortunate enough to keep our jobs. | ||
| And, you know, just because of the nature of what we do, we're busier than ever. | ||
| So, you know, I'm very grateful that I can be working that sort of job, even, you know, as it, you know, kind of feels like the world's on fire next to China. | ||
| Yeah, it's an incredible point to make, actually. | ||
| I mean, some of us, we can easily forget that we're, I mean, I wouldn't say recession-proof, but we're in this industry and in this town where people aren't as routinely hit and certainly aren't as badly hit. | ||
| And I know you're not in D.C., but, you know, in that milieu, right? | ||
| And they're not as badly hit as ordinary people all across. | ||
| I mean that's why I seriously upped my charitable giving this year, helping out as many people as possible. | ||
| We raised nearly $15,000 for the staff at Morton's over there and that's the place we go and so we're trying to help them. | ||
| I donated a lot of money this year to the Stephen Siller, the Tunnel to Towers Foundation which does such amazing work with military veterans and 9-11 families and survivors and the families of those who didn't survive who are still struggling to get by. | ||
| And so for us I think it's imperative that we kind of step up and do that. | ||
| I know even like Barstool Sports are like raising money, millions of dollars right now for small businesses to help bail out small businesses because Matt... | ||
| Uh, correct me if I'm wrong, but the federal government, the Congress of the United States does not seem interested in helping out the little guy. | ||
| I mean, $600 for your average person ain't a whole... I mean, remember, Nancy Pelosi called $1,200 a pittance. | ||
| And now she's saying, oh, but $600 is very significant, Matt. | ||
| Yeah, I was actually going to joke, everyone you just listed, yourself included, has done more for Americans than Congress has. | ||
| The whole stimulus thing was for show, too. | ||
| Pelosi originally demanded $2.2 trillion. | ||
| She knew she was never going to get that. | ||
| $2.2 trillion is the size of the former CARES Act, which was the biggest a suspending bill in american history republicans said will give you one point eight trillion uh... nothing happened republicans are okay fine one point nine nothing happens the election goes by the all of a sudden nine hundred billion is the new two point two trillion uh... i mean it's just they were obviously playing politics with us and that's really nothing is changing after the election Yeah, I think that's right. | ||
| Okay, so let me ask you this question. | ||
| I mean, what about, we've got a lot of this audience, big fans of the Bongino Report, big fans of Dan Bongino, which you guys do over there, and his website, and on the podcast, and all of that, and I know you're involved in all of those things, and the wider kind of world there, so how was 2020 for you guys in terms of, we talked about media last year when you came on here. | ||
| Well, I had no shortage of things to write about, so no. | ||
| makes of itself every day. I guess they've improved? Did they take our advice and improve over this last year, Matt? | ||
| Uh, well I had no shortage of things to write about, so no. | ||
| Again, it goes with my point of us, you know, doing well through this pandemic. | ||
| I mean, the media was more dishonest than ever. | ||
| And we can even go back to certain politicians who were saying, don't wear a mask, you know, congregate in public, go to your local Chinese events to show you're not racist. | ||
| And then three months later, berating the right as if they were the ones encouraging what they just did. | ||
| It feels like the rules are just kind of made up as they go along. | ||
| And it's sort of made our job easier pointing out, hey, you said this one thing today, a week ago, you're saying the opposite, or a month ago, or Or whatnot. | ||
| I mean, the examples really are endless. | ||
| I mean, I think Eric Swalwell is one where if you look at his COVID advice, one could surmise that perhaps the CCP was writing his talking points for him. | ||
| And, you know, obviously, it's a bit ironic given recent revelations. | ||
| Well, I mean, that story is particularly galling. | ||
| I mean, I think it's deeply disturbing just how deeply corrupted the Democratic Party is by the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| And we've got one of the best researchers into the Chinese Communist Party in the United States in the room with us right now in the form of Natalie Winters. | ||
| I want to bring Natalie in on the conversation. | ||
| I mean, every single step along the way, you know, you bring me these stories, and I kind of have to do a triple take, a quadruple take, and I'm thinking, there's no way this could possibly be true to the extent it is, but it is. | ||
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Yeah, even that Axios story about Eric Swalwell, that was certainly... Get closer, you've got to get right up to the mic, don't be shy. | |
| I'm used to the America's Voice studio. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| This is the war room. | ||
| Well, no, that Swalwell story is interesting. | ||
| You talk about how the Democratic Party retains extensive links to the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| It's not just that Eric Swalwell was involved with an operative, an intelligence operative, on behalf of the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| We had reporting at the National Pulse showing that he was actually taking thousands of dollars from an individual who worked at a Chinese Communist Party run company and interestingly enough you're talking about the media this kind of virtue signaling, double standard, really hypocrisy coming from whether it's the establishment, the media, Democrats, I believe a couple months back Eric Soawa had tweeted saying that Marsha Blackburn should actually return some campaign contributions that she had received from entities that were kinda tangentially linked to China | ||
| and even my favorite I think 180 that you've seen this year from the media is how for so long they said that coronavirus we couldn't trace it to the to the Chinese Communist Party was racist to do so and then a few weeks back we see the New York Times coming out with and CNN coming out with Actually, we were wrong, although they never admit it, saying that actually the CCP is inextricably linked to the coronavirus. | ||
| Meanwhile, CNN is publishing word-for-word stories from Chinese state-run media outlets, from the Global Times, praising the Chinese military and their efforts to curtail coronavirus, while they're dunking on our own military. | ||
| So, the media definitely has not improved in 2020. | ||
| I'd argue that they probably got worse. | ||
| I feel like, I like to think that some of the media has improved. | ||
| Matt, you know, Boncina Report goes from strength to strength, what you guys are doing. | ||
| I'm sure your book is going to do incredibly well. | ||
| This is what it takes, though, right? | ||
| I mean, we started the national pulse. | ||
| I think, you know, people won't realize it feels like it's been five years. | ||
| It's been one year less. | ||
| Than when we really started ramping up and getting going on the NationalPulse.com and we passed 10 million views nearly this month, which is just extraordinary. | ||
| And it takes this. | ||
| It takes people to step into the breach. | ||
| It takes people to walk toward the fire and create a new paradigm, right? | ||
| Create new media organizations, create new audiences. | ||
| Create new content that people want to share. | ||
| Create new means by which to reach people. | ||
| And that's the grind that we go through every single day. | ||
| Are we getting enough traffic? | ||
| Are we growing? | ||
| Do we have enough subscribers? | ||
| You know, all of those things weigh in on us because, hey, this isn't about us. | ||
| This isn't about my personal brand or my opinions. | ||
| I don't represent me when I sit here and when I take this microphone. | ||
| I know that I am Channeling the audience out there that is left behind by the politicians who don't give a damn about them, for the people in the media who look down on them, and for the big corporates who treat them not as the consumer, but as the product, Matt. | ||
| Yeah, and I mean, I know I don't need to plug you to your own audience, but I mean, what I do love about the work that you guys have... You must and you may! | ||
| Well, 100% of the time it's always something original, it's always some connection you guys put together and did all the research for, and you know, you never even have to borrow off anyone else, and it's really important work, and I mean, I track your web-wrecking along with ours every day, and you know, I've seen you've got to make enormous progress over the past year, and you know, I'm glad to be able to help out with that, even if it's only partially. | ||
| We're incredibly grateful for it. | ||
| Matt, where is the new year going for you guys? | ||
| I think just a lot more budget and a report. | ||
| I mean, you know, the one thing I think that will change over the years is our nine sections on the site and, you know, what kind of stories we do. | ||
| Obviously, I'm hoping the coronavirus section eventually will drop off and become irrelevant and can turn to something else for the site. | ||
| But, you know, just kind of a lot more of what we're doing now, trying to expand. | ||
| Not to get too far ahead of myself, but I will probably be starting a podcast soon that'll be sort of like a sister podcast to Dan's podcast, and it'll be very related to Bon Jovi Report. | ||
| It's not going to be titled this, but it'll kind of be like the Bon Jovi Report report. | ||
| It'll be me going through what I think are the top five to ten news stories of the day every morning. | ||
| So that's the next big project. | ||
| That's awesome. | ||
| We love that. | ||
| Matt, where can people follow you? | ||
| Also, Twitter, it's MattPalumbo12. | ||
| I expect a Twitter shoutout from you in case anyone misspells my name. | ||
| And then, you know, just BonjinaReport.com, and that's, you know, me and my small team posting links pretty much all day. | ||
| Alright, perfect. | ||
| Matt Palumbo, Bonjina Report content manager. | ||
| Thank you so much for joining us here on this Boxing Day special. | ||
| And we'll look out for the podcast. | ||
| All right, back to the War Room here. | ||
| Greg, you look like you've been dying to jump in the whole time. | ||
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No, it's just amazing to think about sitting here last year and everything that America has gone through, what the world has gone through, and then thinking back to the growth that we have been able to see here at War Room and the Bongino Report and that Gratefulness that we should have at this time when so many people are hurting. | |
| We do have, we do have. | ||
| And Greg, you're absolutely right in pointing that out. | ||
| When you talk about that, when you talk about the growth of these things, I mean really they have come up in a massive way. | ||
| Bongino Report, Citizen Free Press, we're going to have Kane later on in the show joining us here as well. | ||
| It's a whole new ecosystem out there. | ||
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Yeah, and people are craving that original content and authentic reporting that you guys have done at the National Pulse and doing the legwork to bring information that people are actually craving and not just getting regurgitated from others. | |
| Yeah, I agree. | ||
| And thank you, by the way, for saying that. | ||
| There's a whole bunch of organizations out there. | ||
| Populous Press, Revolver.News, all these guys. | ||
| I want to make sure that you all support them. | ||
| It doesn't have to be financially. | ||
| You know, put them in your browser, in your bookmarks tab. | ||
| Make sure you're opening them, going to them every day. | ||
| Every ad impression counts. | ||
| It helps them grow. | ||
| All of these wonderful sites. | ||
| We're going to be talking to Kane later on in the next hour. | ||
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We'll be back with more War Room Pandemic Boxing Day special in just a moment. | |
| War Room Pandemic with Stephen K. Bannon. The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room Pandemic. Here's your host Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Alright, it's less of a newsy day and more of a day to reflect, a day to, as Greg Mann said, to be grateful for the things that we have achieved thanks to you guys. | ||
| I know a lot of people are sitting at home right now, you know, going through a really tough time, but this is our opportunity and I know it takes sometimes all of the strength we have within us To look and find the good out there and the good that's happened to us this year and the good that we should be grateful for. | ||
| I want to bring in two people that I am grateful for. | ||
| Natalie Winters, Greg Manns, into the conversation here. | ||
| Two people who have really shone this year. | ||
| Natalie with just, you know, a plethora of extraordinary reporting. | ||
| By the way, I don't know another person in the world of your age Uh, that has pumped out as much original content, news, investigations as you have this year. | ||
| I mean, there are not many people out there who can say that they've broken as many stories with Chinese Communist Party, uh, the hard drive from hell. | ||
| You know, you've seen and lived what real reporting is supposed to be about for the last year now. | ||
| Your first full year, you know, being in that role, how's that been? | ||
| Well, I think it's pretty sad that there was such a large vacuum to fill in the sense that a lot of the stories that we break at the National Pulse about the Chinese Communist Party specifically, how they've infiltrated virtually every American institution, whether it's political parties, think tanks, | ||
| Uh, advocacy groups that so many people are either on their payroll directly or indirectly that they don't have the freedom to, to openly report, uh, whether that's Fareed Zakaria taking Chinese Communist Party money, he's obviously not gonna, you know, slam, uh, China and their government in his CNN monologues, or a host of think tanks, uh, sponsoring events alongside the same Chinese government body that's responsible for spearheading the, uh, elaborate disinformation campaign that we saw the Chinese Communist Party | ||
| Really create to suppress any information coming out to the public about the coronavirus and instead spread disinformation. | ||
| Very well said. | ||
| Greg, you had a particularly interesting year also. | ||
| Tell us, tell us, you know, because you left us at one point and they always come back. | ||
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Yeah, it took a little hiatus to join the campaign. | |
| My own gratitude was towards Jason Miller for bringing me on and working with him and Steve Cortez and the strategy department. | ||
| And then to that end, and what we've been talking about, people losing their jobs, having gaps in employment, being able to come back here and be part of the team. | ||
| Yeah, so what was it like? | ||
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It was exciting. | |
| Ever a quiet day? | ||
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There was a few quiet days. | |
| The first debate was quiet. | ||
| We had a really cohesive environment there across all departments and being able to work together. | ||
| Specifically, I worked with Steve Cortez primarily on a day-to-day basis. | ||
| And just being able to combat the opposition media now is our role was to push back on what they were putting out there when we talk about the coverage of the Trump campaign and everything that's going on across different spectrums of breaking news. | ||
| That rapid response component was exhilarating. | ||
| So look, is it all kabuki theatre? | ||
| Is politics all, like, just kind of people screaming at each other but quietly getting along behind the scenes? | ||
| My question is, did you find anyone in the establishment corporate media who was actually, you know, sympathetic to the points that you would make to them privately? | ||
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| So they put on a show. | ||
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Yeah, exactly. | |
| And it's the conceding after the fact. | ||
| Say, hey, I'm going to call you. | ||
| Let's talk off the record here. | ||
| You made some good points. | ||
| But you know, I had to push back on you because of my editors, my producers. | ||
| And that's a real thing out there. | ||
| And they understand the points we are making. | ||
| But from the corporate client standpoint in terms of what they have to put out there for their advertisers it's uh... a little hard to break through the mold there that's a that's an incredible way of putting it in a new credible way of thinking about it's the corporate compliance that we're talking about here right that the infects these people in their minds the way they approach reporting like i say we did the media special uh... year ago today so it's it's important that we talk about this stuff and have we have we gotten anywhere | ||
| with the establishment corporate media i would argue it's only gotten worse but that's probably you know very on the nose a point to make let's let's all stays on the question let's let's assume that the outsider to take office on january twentieth i.e. joe biden let's assume he does take office the media is going to have have something hit them like a ton of bricks which is | ||
| that these little reporters who run around Washington DC claiming to have integrity because they scream questions at Trump administration employees, they're going to be trying to do that, but their editors are going to tell them to shut up. | ||
| We don't treat this guy, the new guy, the same as we treated the old guy, right? | ||
| This is going to be interesting to watch these people realize that they've been played all this time. | ||
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Yeah, you just have to look to where these corporations are getting their money from, where the investors are, and that also links back to where Joe Biden has gotten his money and that synchronicity of it all. | |
| Yeah, interesting. | ||
| Natalie, any further thoughts and comments on the media side of things? | ||
| Well, when you talk about where certain corporates are getting their money from, I'm inclined to think of, for example, the Washington Post. | ||
| If you go to a list of who their advertisers are, Huawei is one of those, which not only has been labeled a national security threat by the Trump administration, it's been labeled by the Department of Defense as having collaborated with the Chinese military for over two decades. | ||
| Nonetheless, the Washington Post feels comfortable not only taking their money as advertisers, but they also, I believe, they published two | ||
| To date, but these puff pieces that are, when you look at the author, they're written by Huawei and they talk about how great Huawei's 5G network is, so it's certainly jarring when you see how these establishment media outlets, which are keen on lecturing us that we're the deplorables, that we're terrible people, we're racist, when they're actually taking money from probably the most repressive regime in the history of the world. | ||
| And racist regime. | ||
| Yeah, the Chinese Communist Party, so it's certainly a double standard. | ||
| I want to make sure we get a time check here. | ||
| How long we got left in this segment, chaps? | ||
| All right, we've got about two minutes left here. | ||
| I just want to come back to you on that point as well. | ||
| One minute here? | ||
| Okay, well maybe we don't get to another point then. | ||
| Look, the Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, New York Times, all these guys are like taking the millions and millions of dollars to slide China Daily, you know, and its reporting into this thing. | ||
| So Greg, I think corporate compliance is the best The best way I've heard it been put. | ||
| We're going to be joined by none other than the great James O'Keefe in the next, uh, in the next segment. | ||
| Don't go anywhere. | ||
| War and Pandemic returns. | ||
| James O'Keefe, Kane from Citizen Free Press. | ||
| Terry Schelling of the American Principals Project will join us as well. | ||
| There's a lot going on out there. | ||
| I know it's Boxing Day. | ||
| I know you're trying to relax, but we're still fighting here. | ||
| Stick around. |
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