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Nevada Court Terrorism? Murder For Hire by Judges? w/ Katherine Hine and Barbera Stone
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Blood Money Episode 105.
Nevada Court Terrorism Murder for Hire by Judges and the Solution to Their Corrupt System.
Alright, welcome to the latest episode of Blood Money.
I have my camera off today because we're having some camera issues, but I have two wonderful guests, Barbara Stone and Katrin Hine.
And today's topic is something that we're calling Nevada Court Terrorism Murder for Hire.
They're going to tell us an incredible story.
So let me lead this by asking the ladies if one of you could describe the situation.
Well, firstly, let's start with this.
Can you tell us a little bit about each of your backgrounds and lead us into the current situation that we are facing right now in Nevada?
You first, Barbara. Okay.
My name is Barbara Stone and I practiced law for 25 years.
I practiced real estate only, never set foot in court, never had any idea about the beyond corruption, the criminality of the courts until my mother got captured in What I call a murder for hire racket.
They call it guardianship, but it falls within their code 18 U.S.C. 1958 murder for hire.
So once you get embroiled in their racket, it becomes all consuming.
And so I retired from the practice of law and I I was flying back and forth from New York to Miami, which is where my mother was, to deal with her crime events that they call court hearings.
And I was strict of my law license after I retired from the practice of law with no client complaints and a letter of appreciation from the Florida Bar thanking me for my many years of service.
Because it's all part of the retaliation tactics.
And so when people are going through this, they don't realize at the very beginning what they're in for.
They just keep going to the next tier of criminals, whether it's the next court Tier being the appellate court or whether it's law enforcement or whether they go to the federal courts.
They don't realize that this racket, the guardian racket and the child trafficking racket, is all a well-oiled machine, a trillion-dollar government Sponsored and funded crime syndicate.
So in the process, I was retaliated.
I've been in probably more courts than anybody in the world, including the Supreme Court of Criminals five times.
And I put together a group of victims all over the country because initially we were going to go to the International Criminal Court before I realized that was all part of the Crime syndicate, all being a government agency.
And so we did that.
We put together a complaint, went to the International Criminal Court, sat and waited for months while parents were being drugged and murdered and children were being trafficked and raped.
And at the time, I think I'm going to go into a little bit of detail because I think the people have to understand the backdrop because until they wake up and understand what we're dealing with in our government, which is actually waging war against humanity, we're never going to remedy the problem because we're going to keep going to the government perpetrators.
So when I filed the filing in the International Criminal Court, we actually overnighted it to the Hague to the 18 judicial employees of the International Criminal Court and told them that, gave them instruction that it was not to go to the state prosecutors because there was no discretion, because when a government commits these what's called atrocity crimes under international law, that The International Criminal Court represents itself to be the remedy.
So notwithstanding, you know, the irrefutable evidence of crimes against hundreds of victims, I got a letter back after about six months saying, as I'm sure you'll understand, We can't do anything because the United States has not consented that they're going to be responsible for their crimes because they haven't, they are not a signator to the treaty by the International Criminal Court.
An absurdity. I mean, complete absurdity because when it was filed, you know, I had expected that and said, you know, don't insult us by coming back and saying that the United States hasn't agreed to be responsible for their atrocity crimes.
Because if you're going to do that, you might as well nullify all of the orders that you issued in the Nuremberg trials because the Nazis didn't agree to be responsible for their crimes.
So it makes it crystal, crystal clear that, you know, there is no government remedy because they're there to participate in the trillion dollar racket.
So in the process, Roger Hillegas, who we're going to talk about now, became a part of the group and his mother at the time was in the Guardian racket where she was being slowly murdered by drugging and abuse in Nevada.
And so Roger and his friend, who's in law enforcement, made arrangements to go to the facility where she had been forcibly removed from her home and rescue her from the murder for hire racket, which they did. And she walked out of the facility happy as could be that her son had taken care for her safety and removed her from From being kidnapped.
So they left the facility and I believe it was a day later that Roger was arrested for basically going to see his mother and rescuing his mother.
So the way it works is that the family members get accused of the crimes of the government perpetrators.
So I believe he might have been put in jail at the time and then he was out on bail and they go after the victims by ordering them to have a psych eval so that they can divert from the fact that these people, these individual living and breathing human beings that call themselves judges and legislators are psychopaths and madmen.
So everything gets flipped around.
So Roger left the state and then he was rearrested later in another state and extradited back to Nevada.
And Catherine and I had been in touch over time and I knew that Catherine was addressing the crime syndicate by doing people's grand juries where We, the people, are holding the government criminals accountable.
So we were in touch, and without a bit of hesitation, when I told Catherine about Roger's case, she immediately agreed that she would file Not file.
She would serve documents and serve claims on the perpetrators.
And so Catherine had also put together her own people's court, which she'll talk about, which is kind of everything kind of has to work together, but it only works when we the people take control of The crimes that are being perpetrated against us.
And so that's the backdrop for how this came about.
And Catherine and I are working together.
And so she's in the process of filing, not filing, excuse me.
I sometimes use the wrong language and we have to, that's something that's really important that we correct ourselves.
So she's going to talk about how she's delivering the documents in this process and get into it a little bit deeper.
And then, of course, we can answer questions and use the correct terminology as we do that.
I just have one.
I wanted to kind of make a comment for the viewer, a little rant here, just to kind of put things in perspective, right?
On the Blood Money podcast, we cover a lot of ground.
Just today, we're having one of our correspondents in Washington, D.C., report back to us About the Oath Keepers trial, where the leader of the Oath Keepers, frankly, based upon no evidence whatsoever, has been sentenced to jail for 18 years for seditious conspiracy, right? And by those definitions, literally freedom of speech, freedom of assembly becomes seditious conspiracy.
We see this march towards tyranny in terms of our courts.
Yes, our courts across the board, and we've done pieces on the family law world, multiple pieces.
These are kidnapping trafficking operations.
They murder children.
They destroy families.
They do everything against common sense for the profit of essentially the bar, the bar.
And the bar seems to be a constant issue.
And by the way, Catherine, once I pass the mic to you, feel free to agree or disagree with this stuff I'm saying.
But it seems as though we have this international bar organization that's nothing but a multinational criminal organization that destroys families, that destroys lives, that throws people in jail on false charges, and then takes money from elderly people through these guardianship scandals, which I call essentially terrorism, murder for hire, and really what they've become and the courts have become is really an instrument of war towards its citizens.
And when you look at All of our industrial complex across the board, what's been happening with the COVID-19 scandemic and these so-called vaxes that are now showing to be nothing but clot shots leading to death, leading to myocarditis.
It seems as though all governmental entities, industries have been really targeting the people, the destruction of the people, declaring war on the people.
But I will stop talking now and I will pass the mic to Catherine.
I'm sorry, can I just say one more thing?
Because speaking of what happened with you yesterday, I want to talk about what happened today, because I haven't even discussed it with Catherine, and I want her to be aware.
So just I want to make also a correction that, you know, the public's led to believe that this is, this originates with the judicial government criminals, but it really originates with the secretive behind-the-scenes legislative criminals who are We're secretly putting together these illegal void laws to strip and deprive us of our unalienable rights.
And so that engineers the court racket.
We'll get into that a little bit later, but let me just jump in because I want to bring Catherine up to date with what happened today.
So I had put together a GoFundMe for Roger, spending a great deal of time being very methodical about what happened.
And I had put together a list of a lot of the community leaders.
I call them community leaders, you know, but that's...
What is that? I can't think of the right word.
It'll come to me.
Anyway, so a lot of them were in the entertainment business, the casino business, etc.
And so I... Put together this GoFundMe that I sent out this morning at 1 o'clock my time, which was 10 o'clock Nevada time.
So I was waiting for, you know, to be notified that this fund was overflowing with donations, but no.
So at 4.30 my time, which was, I guess, 1.30 Nevada time.
So it was, it was, let's see, it started at 10.
So it was about three and a half hours after I started the GoFundMe to the Nevada entertainment business.
I get a note from GoFundMe saying that my contribution, because I had started The fund with the contribution by myself was being refunded.
So I said, oops, it didn't take long for them to pull down the GoFundMe.
So I looked on my GoFundMe that was called Free Roger Hill or Free Roger.
So it said that that fund or that funding was No longer was no longer available, right?
So in three and a half hours, you know, so now who did what?
Who was responsible for, you know, complaining to the judges that, you know, oops, we can't have an interruption to our murder for hire racket and oops, we're protected by the judges and oops, We can't stand for this.
And so Vim, we can talk about it a little bit later, but I'm just saying it to Catherine right now because whatever documents we do in the second and third and fourth notice, I think should have a screenshot of the notice by GoFundMe that the funding platform has been removed, is no longer available in the span of three to three and a half hours.
One thing I wanted to mention before Catherine starts again, I mean, this is another thing that we hear.
It's very hard to do a show like Blood Money, interview individuals like Barbara, like Catherine, and the 120 other guests that we've had, and not come to the conclusion that there's a cabal out there, right?
The minute you try to do something, like, you know, even if you're trying to raise money for January 6th litigants that are actually in court, they will kill your GoFundMe.
Because it really is a distinction between our constitutional rights and our freedoms and slavery.
That's what it comes down to when you really look at the picture of what's going on.
These GoFundMes, these social media companies, they're all in for the slavery.
They're all in for this corrupt legal system.
They're all in for this war against They're just all in.
And that's why we got to create parallel systems.
That's part of what we talk about on Blood Money, because, you know, these systems here have to be destroyed because they are predatory against the people.
And talking about parallel systems, Catherine Hines.
Okay. Thanks for having us on, Vim.
And I wanted to just...
Hmm, where to start?
You know, everywhere you look, all you see is problems.
And... You know, what I wanted to focus on more was solutions.
I tried for 42 plus years to find those solutions in the so-called criminal justice system.
I didn't know that everything in that system was arranged according to the big hoax that corporatism is.
And just the notion of being a corporation is itself a fraud, and corporations really are not lawfully even in existence.
But that's how our so-called government is organized.
There must be 157,000 corporations masquerading as if they were a government.
And what being in the corporate form does is it gives some sort of plausible deniability for the criminals, the people who are operating these corporations.
Because it doesn't sound so bad if you say, well, the police department, Or the sheriff's office caused the death of this or that man or woman.
You can see all those murders taking place.
If you go to Reno Cop Watch on Facebook, they boast about it.
And you can see them killing people in jail cells in Reno.
Anyway, but if they hide behind a corporate name, then they think that they're shielding and we bought into the con job with the people that, oh, the corporation did it and then the corporation has all these defenses and immunities and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and it's all very complicated, as are their corporate
policies that they call statutes and codes, and when they really get full of themselves, they call them law.
They are not law.
They're corporate policies of an entity.
They call a corporation that is created for the sole purpose, really, of being able to harm people without incurring liability for doing that.
As private men and women, we can't do that.
And so this is a veneer that is placed over the criminal activity of people to give the illusion that they're protected, they're immune from liability.
And they're not.
They're not. And once we get over that and stop trying to, you know, follow their intricate statutes and codes and this and that and this exception and that exception and this bit of hair splitting and that, and now they've gone international and they The so-called United Nations,
which is just another private-for-profit corporation, passing itself off as some sort of a super justice center.
Once we stop buying into that corporate nonsense, we can deal with Equally with each other as people.
And that's really all that common law ever did and ever was designed to do, was to deal with disputes among one another, disputes and crimes and so forth.
Historically, going back...
Sorry, Catherine, could I make a quick point here for the viewer, just real quick?
I want to reference the episode we did a while back with Catherine and I. Please check it out.
It's a blood money episode.
I don't remember off the top of my head what number it was, but it gives a really good foundation for what Catherine is talking about because the reality here, and I want to paint the big picture here so people understand what's going on.
We're talking about essentially the wealth, the property of an elderly person being taken due to fraudulent methods, including kidnapping this person, putting him in an old people's home.
We're going to get into those details with Catherine as far as what was happening with this individual, right?
But the root of all of this is that through fraud, and this is, I won't get into too much detail, but very important to watch that episode with Katherine Hind.
Through fraud, what's happened is that the government has in a way enslaved us by not telling us about certain agreements that we're making without knowing that we're making those agreements, whether it be through the U.S. citizenship, whether it be through the passport, Whether it be through a voter registration,
DMV license, there are certain things that that is binding you to, which is their statutory law, which is their BS form of law, which is their way of doing things like kidnapping, terrorism, extortion, and using the law for it.
Again, I won't get into it.
Too much details, but it's definitely that episode presents the picture of a system that is highly corrupt in all ways in order to, you know, use the family courts to kidnap children or to use the guardianship process to take money from the elderly to kidnap the elderly, to do murder for hire against the elderly.
And this is essentially a weaponized system that Catherine so eloquently talks about in that episode of Blood Money.
So that's all.
I just want to jump in real quick again and make a comment as well, because for the criminals, for the perpetrators that are listening to this, you know, I want to make it clear that we are protecting you.
You are committing torture and terror against us, and we are protecting you from your fellow corporate criminals.
We're protecting your children.
It's all disgraceful.
It's so horrific what's going on where we're putting ourselves out there to protect you.
To protect you from your own illegal void criminal codes and to protect your children, which obviously you don't care about because nobody's immune from your racket.
You know, it's catching up with judges.
It's catching up with attorneys.
You're going to be all cannibalized.
So for those of you that are listening, I just want to throw that out there so that you understand the reality of what's happening.
So go ahead, Catherine.
I just wanted to make that statement.
One question I wanted to ask before, because Catherine was talking about diving into the solutions, could we just in a very simplistic fashion explain what has happened to this gentleman in terms of, you know, how essentially, you know, let me, actually allow me to break it down real quick.
So from what I understand, this gentleman, because his mother was placed in an old people's home, correct?
Can I go into, you know, what happened from our notice?
Yes, yes, please. Actually, before we get into the notice, could you get into just the basics of what they did to this man, his mother, and why he's in jail right now, and how the judge has been behaving in this process?
Well, they killed his mother, and they're in the process of killing him, which they're bragging about, basically, in open court.
They'd like to turn him loose, I guess, for some other reasons.
They would like to get him into the forced psychiatry racket.
And then they could keep them longer.
That's often what happens when they can't keep somebody locked up in the criminal system.
They will keep them locked up while they fool around with the criminal system.
And then when that goes kablooey, the person, the man or woman is so disabled from the stress and their treatment in the lockup that they often force drugs.
Yeah, and by the way, a perfect example of this is Cash Jackson.
We've covered the Cash Jackson story for people that are wanting to know how this goes.
Essentially, Cash Jackson, who has children taken from him unlawfully when he's been seen as a healthy parent, just because of a vindictive judge, lost his kids for six years.
After six years of this torture, emotional torture, Where he was diagnosed with PTSD because of this process, he basically threatened the judge of life after six years.
And now he's been in jail.
It took about a year and a half of him being in jail without seeing due process.
And they offered him a plea bargain to admit guilt and spent six months more in jail of a four year long sentence, which he's already done almost two years of.
This is something that they do.
They put you through the court process, they torture you, emotionally torture you, terrorize you, and then, you know, they hope that you act, or they hope, frankly, that you go away and die.
That's what the goal of it is. Okay.
Yeah. Wherever you look, there's crimes being committed.
And I don't know how vindictive these judges are.
I mean, I can tell you the who, what, when, where, and how, but probably not the why.
But the why doesn't matter in common law, which is our superior form of jurisdiction over them.
And so I wanted to get into the solution, and I think that I sent you, and hopefully we'll post it on your site, the notice of intent to form a Nevada common law grand jury and common law court.
So real quickly, before we enter that part of it, when you say that he murders his mother, can you tell us about the steps of how they murdered his mother?
Yeah, a nursing home murder.
They're not real creative.
They go with, like serial killers, they go with one M.O. and then they stick with it.
And that consists of, you know, forced drugging and sometimes beatings and, you know, medical neglect, starvation at times, and VIM. VIM. Roger has been subjected to that in the Reno jail as well.
And oftentimes the torture goes under various guises of, you know, we're just protecting you.
But you see, the way this happens is that once you get a person isolated, and that's the beginning, that's the key to isolate a person, All bets are off.
You know, they're there by themselves against a cartel who spend their days, you know, strategizing the crimes that they're going to roll out that particular day.
So just imagine like that happens with vulnerable adults and they're completely isolated.
They're completely by themselves with no defenses, no nothing.
Children completely by themselves.
No defenses, no ability to defend themselves against I mean, I don't even know what the term is.
There should be something. There should be a new term that we can coin to combine mafia, Nazi, you know, communist, fascist.
You know, maybe that's one of the things that we should coin because there just isn't a strong enough word to describe, you know, these crimes against humanity that these...
You know, government and corporate contractors are engaged in.
It's just so appalling.
And I deal with it every minute of every day.
And we lost a woman a couple of days ago.
People might have read about it on Facebook.
This young woman Whose children were taken from her.
There's nothing worse than having your children taken from you.
And so she suffered.
She was retaliated.
She was threatened with jail.
She might have been put in jail.
She was made homeless.
All of her assets were taken.
And so she fled to another country.
And a couple of days ago, She wrote in Facebook that she was planning to take her own life And she put it all out there and a couple of posts on Facebook about the history of what happened to her.
It's all public.
All of these Nazi mafia criminals can see their handiwork, what they did.
And this young woman, I believe she was 33 years old, she took her life a couple of days ago.
And she's one of, you know, we don't even know the statistics.
In the process of filing my complaint in the International Criminal Court, I included a couple of other examples of induced suicide.
How is this possible?
How is this possible in a country that's like flying a false flag of a democratic republic, which is, by the way, the crime of perfidy under the Geneva Convention, Article 37 of the Geneva Convention.
It's a war crime.
It's a crime of aggression.
It's all of the crimes that the international, you know, Government perpetrators name as if they're going to take responsibility for it.
This is what our government is doing.
I keep saying, wake up America.
Wake up America. Nobody is immune.
And the other thing that I want to correct is that even the victims don't understand how the numbers, there are hundreds of millions, hundreds of millions Of children, mothers, and fathers, and spouses that are captured, kidnapped, and murdered.
Hundreds of millions.
This is like the Nazi Holocaust times hundreds.
This is far worse.
This is a U.S. Holocaust.
U.S. Holocaust.
Barbara, could you just, one thing I want the viewers to just get Before we talk about solutions is exactly what happened in Liam's terms to this man and his mother.
So is it that they took the mother into some kind of home without her consent?
Tell me exactly all the steps that led up to where we are right now.
Well, just briefly, and then I'm going to turn it over to Catherine.
A lot of this originates in the guardian racket and in the family racket with disputes among siblings.
So Roger was in a dispute with his sibling about, because she was extorting money from his mother and he knew about it.
And of course he, like the rest of everybody else that's in the racket, makes the rounds to law enforcement who Thanks that we're fools and tells us that it's a civil matter so that they can conceal and cover up so people end up in these, you know, murder for hire courts.
So now I'll let Catherine, you know, tell you more about what happened.
But that's how it originated with the dispute with his siblings.
Okay. Right, yeah.
In fact, there are, I mean, this is big business for them, and there are little cottage industries that have sprung up to feed these criminal operations that are being run as if they were government.
In Roger's mother's case, they ended up, you know, after they wore Roger down quite a bit in the fake corporate tribunals they call courts, They had one of these private guardians appointed.
That's the theory. You get a dispute going between the family.
If it isn't already there, they create it.
And then they have their excuse for appointing somebody outside the family, someone who will be Objective.
And then the looting and the plundering starts in earnest.
If Roger ever thought that his sister was looting and plundering, it didn't really get going until they appointed, I forget the name of the guardianship service, but it looks like a woman by the name of Zussman was running
a guardianship, a private guardianship service and got appointed, I'm sure she's a frequent flyer, with Barry Breslow, who runs this operation in Reno, Nevada, calling itself a court.
And along the way, there were many bar members that were aiding and abetting.
Yeah, she works for, Zussman works for a legal fiction corporation known as Fiduciary Services of Nevada, LLC. And then instead of Susan Hillegas, Roger's mom, having a family member be the trustee and administer what Roger's parents originally thought would be a private family trust,
they've got this for hire agent By the name of Zussman, managing the trust assets, and usually the first thing they do, they go to the elderly person's house after they've already been conveniently disposed of in a nursing home, which is also in on it.
And, you know, they take everything, you know, the chandeliers out off the ceiling, whatever isn't nailed down, they take it and they try and get the best they can for it.
And it's all about liquidating, liquidating everything because they know that nobody's coming back.
And so they took her to a place called Stone Valley.
And a lot of these so-called nursing facilities look very good on the outside.
And then, you know, on the inside, they do what we've been talking about, you know, the medical neglect and the forced drugging and so on.
Throughout this, Roger continued to try and maintain his relationship with his mother.
But oftentimes, once the elderly man or woman has been abducted to a nursing home, the nursing home becomes a weapon against the family.
Who is then portrayed as people that the elderly man or woman should be protected from, no matter if they desperately want to see their sons, daughters, brothers, sisters, whoever.
At some point, okay, in the backdrop of this, in 1993, when both Susan and Herbert, who were Roger's parents, created this trust, a trust that was intended to be private.
But when they created that, they were clearly, everybody agrees they were competent then.
But what typically happens is after the man or woman Who created the trust becomes probably not competent, then they start trying to change the provisions in the trust.
The whole purpose of how these trust documents got sold to people was that they would avoid probate.
Doesn't happen that way.
So now what you thought would be a private document ends up being examined and trashed by a private-for-profit corporation calling itself a probate court.
So, Roger apparently, with full permission and full knowledge of the facility known as Stone Valley, the corporate facility, let them know that at his mother's request, and he had several witnesses with him to verify this, that they were leaving.
And she was just delighted.
And apparently on the way out, there were other people reaching out to Roger and his friends.
Please take me too!
Please take me too!
But of course they couldn't do that.
But they did take Susan to see some relatives, stay with some relatives.
By that point, I think the guardians and the fake tribunal had already trashed the family home.
So they went to see relatives in California and Since the cabal in Nevada is corporately connected to the cabal in California and all the other so-called states that are now corporate, they reached out and they abducted Roger and his mother, and this would have been in 2016.
And they took her to, that may have been when they took her to Stone Valley.
They may have taken her somewhere else.
There was a series of nursing homes.
Roger bonded out at one point in 2016 when he was dragged back to Nevada.
Then from there, and he continued to be duped, continuing to believe that the very perpetrators who were doing all these things could somehow still be counted on to provide a remedy.
He kept filing and filing and filing, as did his sister.
And so did a lot of the bar members.
But mostly what they were doing was plundering.
So At some point, In 2019, or before that, Roger became a domiciliary.
He became not a citizen.
We don't use that term in common law because that means one who is previously subject to the crown.
He started becoming, trying to become a free man and became one of the people of Texas.
And so he had been visiting in another state on his way back to Texas in 2019.
He was abducted again in Missouri, in state of Missouri.
And some of the people there, one of the fake judges in Missouri, and her name, who is on the notice, admitted that she was operating without jurisdiction.
And so, nonetheless, her corporate duties called.
And she kept him knowing, admittedly, that she had no authority anymore.
She kept Roger another four days while, and I believe it was a private of...
A transport service came to transport Roger back to Nevada.
And these transport services are a whole other racket.
I think there's a movie done about that.
But the reality is otherwise.
People can be dragged across the country who have only been accused of this or that, which Roger didn't even seem to have been really accused of anything.
But they drag them back and forth across the country for money, of course.
And people die during the transport, commonly, in any event.
Roger has been locked up in the Reno jail since October of 2022, continuously.
And he has some medical needs, which get worse the more the abuse happens.
And the cabal has its own, you know, supposed remedies for that.
They use an incorporated entity called NAFCARE, N-A-P-H, a private-for-profit corporation operated by a man named McLean.
And they provide nurse practitioners who make sure, at least they did in Roger's situation, that he would not get his prescribed medication.
They had an Americans with Disabilities Act representative by the name of Deborah Marino and various Americans with Disabilities Act special agents, Herman and Bugarello and others under the supervision of Captain Mosley of Reno Police Department,
Inc., Pretending to address Roger's need for his medications without actually providing the medications, you know, until actually Barbara finally made enough of a commotion about it that he did start getting the blood pressure medications.
But the medication is supposed to be taken with food, so they made sure it would not be taken with food.
And making the medication less effective.
Anyway, so that's why Roger is where he is and And this, of course, is just the tip of the iceberg of the many, many, many crimes that are being perpetrated against men, women, and children so that the cabal can make money off their various contracts with one another, with the so-called private sector.
After all, it's all private.
Can I chime in here real quick, Catherine?
So, you know, I just wanted to kind of paint a little picture for the viewer, just kind of summarizing what we've heard thus far, right?
So, those of us in the know, Catherine is certainly somebody that's in the know, 42 years, essentially as a lawyer, a.k.a.
a bar agent, really, because that's what we, you know, that's what it is when you're operating under this monopoly.
And really, there's a limited amount of repercussions for somebody misbehaving, like a judge doing something that is clearly unconstitutional, something that is, in fact, could be categorized as terrorism, murder for high care, what is considered by international criminal courts to be such.
People that know what's going on have come to the conclusion that other solutions are necessary, right?
And this is where we get into this topic of common law courts and the importance of having common law courts.
So I just want to set that up, Catherine, because I know that's where this is going next.
And the topic here is really about...
Bring justice to this matter, and not only to this matter, but hundreds and thousands of them like that, that are happening in Nevada right now, that are happening in all states across the country, and in fact, all countries of the Western world, Canada, Australia, United Kingdom, where essentially these courts have become criminal mafia entities, militarized against the people for profit, because they are for profit entities.
And what they do is especially sadistic, especially authoritarian, really on the level of repugnance that we've seen from regimes like Hitler and Stalin and I would say even worse because this is a population that's not expecting that.
They are expecting these courts to uphold the laws of the land, but we've seen time and time again in every sector That that's not what happens in these courts anymore.
Really, they are there to go after people when it's necessary and not go after people when they don't want to go after them, like all the real criminals that are part of this case.
So anyway, Catherine, tell us a little bit about the solutions to this problem.
Well, in any common law system, you need to have a true common law court and a common law grand jury and a common law security force of some kind.
The Constitution called it a militia, a common law militia, protected supposedly by the Second Amendment, not by statutes, not by hair-splitting bar members, but by the Constitution, but more than that, by the law of God, which gave every living creation the wherewithal to defend itself.
So, and I think I sent you this and hopefully you'll be able to post the public notice of common law assembly for people of Nevada.
And it's open to all who are adults who are competent to manage their own affairs.
And who are willing to stand by that with sworn declarations rebutting the presumptions of the corporate state because we've given our signatures to the cabal already or our rights have been surrendered by our parents as in the case of the birth certificate.
Signatures are very powerful things.
So it's important to rebut the presumptions that they create from our signatures and then use against us so that we can truly be free people in a common law assembly of some common law court or a common law grand jury.
We've been doing this in Ohio.
We've gotten as far as creating a common law court, and I discussed that in the previous interview I did with UVM. Everybody can see our website at OCCR2021.com.
That's OCCR2021.com.
That stands for Ohio Circuit Court of Record.
Which we formed in 2021 simply by giving the same type of public notice that we were assembling back in I think it was June of 2021.
And we also provided a copy to the so-called Chief Justice of the so-called Supreme Court of Ohio and the so-called Ohio Attorney General.
And nobody responded.
We invite them to respond.
We invite them to object.
And they don't. We claim territorial authority over the entire original court.
Ohio Republic that was carved out of the Northwest Territory.
We are not bound by what's in the Northwest Ordinance.
But we will take guidance from that.
And we do. And we take guidance even from corporate statutes because if we believe they are just, we may use them.
If they are not just, we don't use them.
We're the people. We're the source of all law.
They admitted that in 1793 in the matter of Chisholm v.
Georgia in their United States Supreme Court decision.
So there really isn't any question that we have the authority to do this.
We're just not doing it.
Whether through laziness, through fear, whatever.
At the end of the Roman regime, the Roman Empire, Emperor Caligula said, well, it's a given that they hate us, but that's okay as long as they fear us.
And that's the fear is what I believe fear and laziness is what tends to stop people and I've noticed that even when you know video is shown of helpless people being murdered by police that People tend to just not really care and they just think,
well, you know, they deserved it or whatever because there's a definite PSYOP going on to pit people against one another.
One thing to keep in mind, too, is they have to use living people to commit all their crimes.
And the people that they're using are themselves enslaved.
And they're themselves enslaved by lies.
One of our people that had been locked up before she got a little smarter about common law and stopped going onto their turf, she asked one of them, why are you doing this?
You know this is wrong.
And he said, well, I'm going to protect my family.
They got this cushy retirement for me.
And I'm going to make sure that I get it.
As if. As if they're not going to end up stealing it from him.
But, you know, until they understand that, you know, we will have fewer supporters.
But we still have enough, and it should be recalled that at the time of the American Revolution in the 18th century, that it was only about 2% of the population that knew that King George was a tyrant.
Everybody else, they kind of liked the guy, you know?
Yeah, yeah. One thing, you know, I wanted to make a point here because, you know, when you look at this a little bit more from a bird's eye view, right, and you look at the totality of the crimes being committed in these courts, you know, like I said, we're hearing what's happening in D.C. with these J6 prisoners, when most of the J6 individuals did not commit violence, didn't commit any violence.
It was just did not, nothing of event happened there, and these people are facing the Decade plus in jail, right?
You know, then you look at the family courts, the kidnapping, trafficking operations, the fact that they ignore any evidentiary standards and they always want to pit one parent up against another for financial reasons.
You know, when you look at the totality of this all, you know, what people need to realize is that this could happen to any man or woman, right?
If you one day want to have a family, this could happen to you.
If you are working, this could happen to you because they could create fictions about what you do in the workplace, what you do in your extracurricular activities.
When fiction becomes law in these courts because of corruption, anybody could fall victim.
And guess what? If somebody sees dollar signs on you, you think you can't go down.
So this is the thing that people need to think about.
No more is it, oh, this guy next door neighbor is going through some family law problems.
They're saying he was abusive.
Oh, maybe he was abusive, even though there's no evidence.
Oh, that like giving him the benefit of the doubt and letting them get away with these crimes against humanity.
We need to see this as a totality of, you know what, this is a broken system.
Everybody is being attacked, including whether you like him or not, the former president.
You know, with this court case that happened in New York, it was ridiculous.
There's zero evidence that he did any wrongdoing, and he has to pay $5 million for defaming the person that came out and said, you rape me in public.
So she's defaming him, and because He's now saying bad things about her.
He has to pay $5 million. I mean, that is just the comedy of a legal system.
And it's very clear what it's about.
It's about that $5 million. It's about getting Donald Trump into court.
It's about making sure that the lawyers, prosecutors are all working.
Everybody's getting paid there.
There's like $30 million that probably exchange hands there.
And that's what the goal is.
Not law, not doing what is right.
So Catherine, in terms of this common law court, what are the steps You know, need to be tangibly taken in order for Nevada to have a common law court and what could people expect to happen in that process?
Well, it's in the notice.
It's just a matter of getting together and forming it.
But even before it's formed, I'm just telling you the way we formed ours.
We gave the notice, but all along, as we were waiting for people to respond, we were getting ourselves acquainted with the three-notice process.
And this is Bible-based.
And it's also based on the knowledge that when they don't have any authority, we don't succumb to their threats.
You better come to this proceeding or we will arrest you.
And it takes a lot of stamina to let them know, I'm not going to be attending.
Thanks for the invitation, but here's your notice of liability for your extortionate threats.
What is it? You don't have any authority, as your own case law admits.
You're bullying me and telling me you're going to do bad things to me if I don't show up in your corporate proceedings.
Why would I do that? Why would I appear in your corporate proceedings when you have no authority to do anything?
If I'm wrong, however, you've got X number of days to tell me how I'm wrong, just as you do in your own commercial world.
Because our notices are also contract offers.
And in their world, as well as in the centuries-old common law world, the one who makes the offer is the master of the contents of the offer.
So you take the bull by the horns, you make an offer, which is also a notice.
You did this, this, this, and this.
Therefore, it's going to take this, this, this, and this to make it right.
And if I'm wrong about what the facts are, you've got X number of days to tell me where I'm wrong.
If I'm not wrong, you know, I'll continue to send you notice, give you a couple more chances.
And if you don't take any more chance, take advantage of any more of the chances I give you, then we will have an agreement.
And this is exactly what they do in their commercial world.
And it's exactly what was done in the law mercantile The old law of contract that goes back centuries.
You can accept a contract offer by your silence or by your conduct.
And there's a lot of gray area in there.
That's why we don't just say by your silence you've accepted.
We've got by your silence and or by your conduct.
And we specify this is what you do and we specify things we know they're going to do.
And then when they go ahead and do those things, they've accepted the contract.
So then we have a contract just like We're all sort of used to in a divorce situation where the people will have a separation agreement.
That's a contract between the two people.
If they present it to a so-called judge, then it becomes a so-called court order.
Not really it doesn't, but that's the theory.
But we do the same thing in our common law courts.
We're not taking testimony.
We're not... You know, we now have 10 people on our court and it took two years to get 10 people to admit that they were free in Ohio.
It's going a little bit faster now.
We've decided about four or five cases now and there's several more in the works.
So once we in our court see that someone has completed, you know, a man or woman comes to us as a free man or woman, they have rebutted all the presumptions that they were slaves, and they have served notices on other men and women who have committed Common law torts and crimes against them and nobody has disputed anything.
It's in default.
It's in default and we will grant them a default judgment.
And that's where we're at.
Now, that will give monetary relief and injunctive relief.
But we have chosen to not overstep our authority in any way by venturing into the criminal realm, although certainly the facts that were established in those three notices support a criminal conviction.
But people in America have come to rely on the The apparent protections of the Constitution and being entitled to a common law, to a grand jury anyway.
And whenever the Constitution talked about law, it was talking about common law because that's all there was then.
This isn't anything new, we just invented.
This goes back centuries.
So, they expected to be indicted, is their term, or issued a true bill that there was probable cause to believe a crime was committed and that the accused committed the crime.
That has never happened for Roger Hillegus, and that doesn't happen for most of the people who are being locked up and battered and poisoned and so forth.
However, you know, the temptation would be, well, let's do the same thing to them.
Well, we don't do the same thing to them because we're better than they are.
And we will provide them with the rights that any free man or woman is entitled to have, even though they signed up for the slavery.
Even though they have committed atrocities, we believe that to impose criminal liability from a court, they would first have to have a true bill presented from a common law grand jury.
In the original common law grand jury, the barons in the Middle Ages got King John to agree to.
In that common law grand jury, the number of grand jurors was 25.
And of course, you want to have a few more in case people get sick or whatever reason.
They can't serve.
For whatever reason, the corporate grand juries, so-called grand juries, comprised of US citizen registered voter lapdogs for the prosecutors, Do nothing.
They just sit there and they sign papers that the prosecutor gives them to sign.
So that's not a real grand jury.
We believe that the people are entitled to a true common law grand jury, even the perpetrators.
And the common law grand jury, don't forget, has historically now for about 900 years been the place where false charges can be weeded out.
And the matter won't get any further.
That's what it's for.
And they don't need to have a prosecutor holding their hands while they go through the process.
The powers of a grand jury have been set out pretty honestly by Antonin Scalia in the decision of U.S. v.
Williams, a 1992 U.S. Supreme Court decision.
And in that case, he goes into some of the history of the common law grand jury.
He doesn't really call it that, but that's what he's talking about.
And one of those rights is, you know, and powers, the powers of a common law grand jury.
When it's fully assembled with 25 plus people to issue subpoenas, to go into any office anywhere, And demand answers to their questions.
We haven't gone there yet.
The only place we're at is people on Facebook will whine and complain that, oh, this is terrible.
Somebody ought to investigate.
Well, who would that somebody be?
Well, guess what, folks?
It's us. It's our turn to step up and populate these common law grand juries.
And please, if you want to remain a slave, you know, you can't be on a common law grand jury.
Not one that I'm going to be a part of in Ohio, for sure.
I mean, if y'all want to do that in Nevada, that's on you.
But I don't think you're going to get good results if you've got a grand jury populated with slaves.
So just to clarify, basically, a grand jury population of slaves basically means that...
Basically, you're talking about people that have gone through the process of sending their notices, getting out of the birth certificate contract, getting out of the citizenship contract, getting out of the DMV contract, the voter registration.
So they're basically completely removed from any contract to the U.S. corporation or its...
So they are truly a free person, hence, and therefore, they are entering that common law court as a man or woman and not a fictitious legal entity created by the government.
Right. Okay. So this is...
There's no perfect disengagement from the system as far down the road as we are now.
There's going to be people who think that they cannot disengage from being in contract with the cabal for having a driver's license, which never used to be.
Anything that anybody thought you needed.
But, you know, some people think, well, if I go on the road with all these insane people and wearing costumes and shiny badges, I better have something to appease them with.
And so, you know, there are other ways of dealing with that so that you can free yourself from that.
But if you don't free yourself in the important ways, the voter registration, repudiation, and don't use their forms for Pete's sake.
The rescission of the US corporate citizenship.
We're not corporate US citizens anyway.
You can't be a citizen of a corporation.
A corporation doesn't even exist.
A corporation is a mental construct.
You can't be a citizen of it.
So that's not even doing anything, but it's important because you've signed documents over and over and over saying, do you agree to act as if you were a U.S. citizen?
And you said yes, and you signed your name.
You've got to explain that.
And that's all we do.
And then the other one is to rebut the presumptions your parents actually put on you when they signed as informants on your birth registration documents.
So that doesn't perfectly disengage you from the system, but I would say it's good enough.
The perfect solution is to say under oath, and we do that with every notice, that I will not be bound by any Any signature that I make or any contract that I supposedly agree to without having first been informed of all material facts.
The example that is given by this patriot in Pennsylvania is, let's say you and I enter into a contract.
You're going to give me $500 and I'm going to paint your house.
So I go paint your house and the first rain it all washes out.
Well guess what? I didn't tell you that I was using substandard paint.
Was that a material fact that I probably should have disclosed to you before you signed the contract that you were going to pay me $500?
Probably so. So does that mean that you consented to it and you're stuck?
No. If the consent was induced by fraud or by a failure to disclose the material facts without saying whose fault it was, you don't have consent.
You don't have a contract. So that's why a lot of, you know, what the cabal presumes we are consenting to isn't really consent because we don't know the backstory behind our supposed consent.
When you go to register, when you go to get married, used to be you just went to a minister and you got married.
It was a covenant under God.
But the corporate state, never wasting an opportunity to make a buck, decided that they were going to get in on the action and they were going to be a polygamous third party to that marriage.
And they were going to kind of kick God to the curb.
And there's even a diagram of how they do it.
And sure enough, we got conned into going to the local probate Fake judge and getting a license and giving our signature, our very powerful signature.
And when we do that, we're agreeing that whatever their fellow members of the cabal decide to do with our marital property, including biological property, we've just given them permission to do that.
We didn't know that. We didn't know that when we signed that.
We just thought if we don't sign it, they're going to prosecute us for bigamen.
Or for, I don't know, for whatever.
We just thought we had to.
We had to do it.
And anytime you're operating under a so-called government that you don't want to be under, there's some fraud going on.
And It's certainly not the government that we were promised in the Declaration of Independence or even in the initial 1781 Constitution.
And then little by little by little, their statutes and codes stopped talking so much about our rights and what guarantees we'd have and stopped talking so much about prohibitions on their powers and started giving them powers.
But can I just give myself a power?
Can I give myself the power to harm you and not have to pay for it?
I don't think so.
Even if I call myself the government?
No. But that is part of what the United States Civil War established, that it did away with the notion that we would have government by consent,
because when the Southern Senators walked out of Congress and there was no longer a quorum, The North decided that this was a death penalty offense.
Even if they had breached the contract, which they didn't.
But if they had, since when is breaching a contract a death penalty offense?
But what it did was establish that, yes, we can.
We can force a government on you that you don't want.
And if you don't want it, we'll call you a criminal and a traitor.
Yeah. And that's what we've been living under for the last 150 or so years.
Until we find out, we don't have to do this.
We didn't freely agree to this.
So that's what we're trying to do.
We're trying to restore what we had during the period probably from 1776 to 1861.
So, basically, it's 25 people that it takes to establish a common law court.
So 25 individuals, and you're saying that they cannot be a part of the U.S. corporation system, so they've made their notices.
So 25 individuals that fall into that category, there's no other special skills they need.
No! No.
They need to know the concept that we're free people and we can do what we like so long as we harm no one else.
Which is kind of a concept that's already known to libertarians and others, but they seem to want to implement those rights in ways that are ineffective.
But the common law grand jury certainly would then enable us to label To authoritatively label these criminal acts as what they are.
And then we'll see where we are.
Are we going to be strong enough to form a common law militia?
Are we going to be strong enough to enforce people's Prisons, for those who commit offenses, what are we going to do?
We have to decide what we're going to do.
And we're going to have to decide how we're going to back that up.
Got it. So it's not guaranteed.
First of all, let me ask this.
First, the idea is to get a judgment from one of these common law courts.
And are we using the example of the gentleman whose case you're working on that's currently in prison in Nevada as one of those cases that have to be looked at and a decision has to be handed down through these common law courts?
A common law grand jury has authority to investigate anything they like.
If it's within their territorial purview, you know, I don't know that we would have authority.
And in the notice, it only claims a territorial purview and we provide the meets and bounds description of the original Nevada Republic.
So, we believe that Nevadans ought to be taking care of what happens in Nevada and the crimes that are committed there.
Wow, wow. So, okay, let's say you get a judgment that looks to, you know, get justice for something.
What happens then in terms of enforceability of that judgment?
Same thing as would be the result in their system.
only we have a judgment that is actually entered with, first of all, the process would be the common law grand jury enters a true bill and then there's probable cause to deprive that man or woman of their liberty and try them for the crime
or crimes that they have committed in the common law court.
Okay.
Because typically, and this can change, the accused is not part of the grand jury proceedings.
Bye.
But we're the people.
We can decide what the rules are.
We can allow that if we want to.
It would be better and more efficient, certainly, to weed out the bad cases for which there is not enough evidence at the grand jury stage instead of letting it go to the common law court stage.
But at that point, the facts are not in dispute then.
If somebody, the victim or the claimant, has established what the facts are, then that saves a whole lot of time.
That saves a whole lot of time if they've already established what the facts are in front of the court through the three-notice process.
Or outside, even if they don't take it to a common law court, they just establish the facts in a three-notice process, and then they take that three-notice process and the facts, and there'll be affidavits that they were served, affidavits that they didn't respond, they were given three chances and they didn't do anything, and that situation will be presented to the 25 people operating the common law grand jury.
And hopefully we will have...
I mean, a lot of people who are working for the so-called government might not want to be labeled as murderers and rapists and whatever else they're involved in.
Maybe. And there are other things.
Now, certainly those people, if they happen to be working for the fake government, we're not bound by their statutes and codes, but they are.
They're bound in two ways.
They're bound to not commit as living people.
They are prohibited from committing common law crimes against us.
And they're also prohibited because of their contracts with the cabal from committing, you know, various victim And victimless offenses.
They call them offenses because they know that they don't have any authority over crimes that living people commit.
They're also going to be subject to sanctions in their cabal system.
For one thing, they brought disgrace and dishonor to the The honorable nature of the cabal and its ability to effectively brainwash people.
So it's probably not a happy situation for particularly the frontline $20 an hour people who are committing these crimes on behalf of their corporate superiors.
So, I mean, it's like, you know, in any war, you know, if we can get the lower hanging fruit first better, they're the ones doing a lot of the damage.
Now, what about going after judges and that sort of thing?
Yeah, well, we always name them.
In fact, if you look at our notice in Roger Hillegus, we named Barry Breslau, without whom, you know, none of this stuff could have happened.
They would have found somebody else, I'm sure.
But, yeah, Barry Breslau's bloodthirstiness is pretty evident from the clip that I think I sent you a link to that's on Facebook, along with a bunch of other clips showing...
Moreno sheriff's deputies murdering people in the jail.
So those people are subject to common law grand jury findings of probable cause and In a true bill issuing.
So, now, at some point, I believe that we're going to need to do a common law court process where we eject the private for profit contractors who are operating the public courthouse without right.
And if it goes anything like the other notices we do, and if we're wrong that they don't actually own that building, I don't think they do, then... Then we'll have established the facts to support an ejectment action.
And then we'll have to find out, are there people in the community that would like to take over some of those functions, maybe keep some of the employees that are still there after those employees have demonstrated that they are disavowing their connections to the Corporate Crime Syndicate?
If there's any of them left that could still be trusted, I mean, it's possible.
Anything's possible, I guess.
But certainly we don't want people for whom there's true bills issued to be operating the public courthouse as an arm of their criminal operation.
Do we? I don't think so.
I don't know. Christopher James in Canada spoke about that at one point.
He really wanted to He didn't want to do an ejectment action.
He wanted to do more like what the French did in the 18th century, the storming of the Bastille.
No, no, no, no. We don't want to do that.
We don't want to put ourselves in the position of the J6 people.
We don't want to put ourselves In the position of those idiotic truckers who are getting their GoFundMe funds stolen by GoFundMe.
No, we're not going to go there.
Let's don't take stupid chances that don't result in anything with no plan.
Let's have a plan. If we're going to stick our necks out, let's have a freaking plan.
And we do. If somebody in Nevada wants to become part of this common law court, how does this process go?
Well, it says it in the notice.
It provides my email address simply because I didn't have anybody else that was going to step up and receive any, you know, responses on it.
But I'll be happy to.
Now, we've got a guy in Nevada who's operating a, I don't want to say too much about him, let him speak for himself, but he's from a different part of Nevada.
From Reno. But he's got some sort of a common law assembly already.
And they don't have a common law grand jury set up, though.
I don't think they have a common law court set up either.
But he's interested.
And so actually, on my broadcast...
On WLJA Common Law Under God.
We're doing that every Thursday at usually about 9 p.m.
Eastern for people who want to log on while it's being recorded and then it gets posted on YouTube a few days later.
So we're going to interview him I'll just give his name.
His name is Glenn Ledet, L-A-D-E-T. And he's involved in the common law movement in Nevada.
And I spoke with him a day or two ago.
And he's going to be on the broadcast on WLJA Common Law Under God tomorrow.
And I think if you post the notice of formation Intent to form the Nevada Common Law Assembly.
An assembly involves a court, a grand jury, and a militia.
You can also call it a neighborhood watch or a committee of safety if you don't like the word militia.
But it's a system because you need at least those three parts.
And if they contact me, then it's got my email address.
I'll be happy to provide the link so they can get on live tomorrow night when we broadcast again.
Gotcha, gotcha. So the first step for them to do is download the notice.
There's the information on there in terms of how to get in touch with you and in terms of how to start this process.
Yes, and then you can also go to OCCR2021.com where you can see a common law court in action.
And if you go to the docket section and you look at each of the cases, every time there'll be the petition It's all in reverse chronological order.
The petition and then it'll have the first notice that was attached and affidavit of service of the first notice, affidavit of non-response to the first notice, the second notice, the first affidavit of service of the second notice, the affidavit of service of non-response to the second notice and the same deal with the third notice.
Once you do that, You can kind of see the three-notice process and how they never do anything.
They're good at that.
They're bureaucrats, so they do nothing quite well.
And that's what they do when they respond to us because when they're on the job and we're usually sending the notice about actions they took while they were on the job, what they may not understand is, we're not taking you to task for what you did on the job with your corporate employer.
That's between you and them.
We're taking you to task for what you, as a living man or woman, did to another living man or woman in our world, which is the world God created, not the world that your corporate slave masters created.
So that's what they need to understand.
Wow, that's powerful. I mean, Catherine, in terms of the setting up of the Nevada Court, the common law court, is there anything that we haven't touched upon that's important to mention?
Just keep in mind, if somebody tells you, well, you have to do this and you have to do that and you have to do this other thing, ask the question, says who?
Because We've always operated on the theory that the people are the source of all law.
And again, that was admitted by their U.S. Supreme Court in Chisholm v.
Georgia 1793.
That concept has been around for a long time, government by consent.
God gave us that directive, Genesis 126.
There's nothing really very controversial about it, that you don't cram government down people's throats that don't want it.
If you do, you're committing crimes.
So that's, you know, since the times of Moses, there have been a course of the people.
And we have to have that to resolve matters amongst ourselves.
And when we don't have that, when we delegate that to criminals and tyrants, we're gonna get what we got.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
I mean, people are just become too complacent.
You know, they might look at someone and say, oh, it's too much work.
Don't notice the process.
That's how we've gotten into this mess.
You know, we spend all the time on the Netflix and the PlayStations and Xboxes and not enough time thinking about their rights.
Yeah, that's right.
Or, you know, people are just too frightened.
Well, you know, at this stage of the game, you know, we're pretty close to having no more hope.
I mean, unless we do this.
So, we may as well.
We got nothing to lose anymore, really, do we?
A lot of us have already lost everything that's of value to us to begin with.
So... But we haven't lost our sense of justice.
And those of us who haven't lost our souls and lost that sense of justice are going to, you know, go ahead and pick up the challenge that God gave to us when he gave us this pretty blue planet.
Yep. Yep.
Catherine... I think this is the only way it seems.
For those that have been following all the blatant criminality that is happening, before they used to try to hide this stuff, and anybody that's followed the courts, you hear about gag orders, you hear about these sealed cases where they don't want this stuff to get out.
And now it's been getting out, the criminality has been getting out.
And really, people have to take action.
People have to take action because this is all part of the, everything we talk about on the show, blood money, our America Happens News Live, where we report from what's happening at the border with the border invasion, with the, you know, the border people literally flat out disregarding American law, disregarding what's best for Americans, letting in criminals through the border.
You know, What's happening in the court?
What's happening with these gulags right now?
I mean, this all has to change.
This all has to change, and this is part of exactly the same disease.
Like you say, a cabal that is destructive towards the people.
Barbara, you know, you eloquently put all this together earlier.
I mean, we weren't recording, unfortunately.
But you kind of brought it all together when you started explaining how all of these things that are happening in our world, including another thing that I forgot about, the sexualization of children right in the schools.
You know, this trans agenda.
You know, Sweden, as a test study, had 30 years of trans science, and they came to the conclusion that pushing this stuff onto the public is not a good thing.
Nonetheless, we're seeing what's happening at Target.
We're seeing what's happening in our schools.
Now, you look at all these different pieces.
I mention all these almost like I'm throwing all the crap out on the table in terms of all the craziness that's been happening in our country, right?
Put these pieces together.
How do you see this as being part of the same conspiracy against the rights of we the people?
Well, again, you know, the public loses track of the big picture.
And so I always like to pull the public back to the big picture.
And the big picture is that we have unalienable rights.
These are not constitutional rights.
These are bountiful, infinite, Unalienable rights that are endowed by the Creator under the Declaration of Independence, and they're derived from our human dignity under the UN Declaration of Human Rights.
And so we can use their, they actually apply when they're true.
And so the public just has to understand these are our unalienable rights.
They can't be legislated.
They can't be adjudicated.
They can't be controlled.
They can't be taken.
They can't be taken from us even with our consent.
That's the very definition of unalienable rights.
And even under their Constitution, under Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution, they have very limited powers.
Their powers only include things relating to monetary oversight, to roads, to post offices, and to certain other powers that they have.
There are eight powers under 8.
Nowhere in that article do they have the right to legislate our rights.
And so that's really all the government, that's really all the public.
We the people have to understand.
These are our unalienable rights.
And it goes back to what I started to say at the very beginning, that although it's made to look like the judicial perpetrators are the ones responsible, It's the secretive, behind-the-shadows legislative branch and the governor and the CEO,
the president, who are putting out these void codes that they call laws to strip our rights that are getting signed by the governor at the speed of light because nobody's stepping up and reclaiming their rights, and they're getting signed by whoever's occupying the Oval Office.
And I just want to, so that we really focus on what needs to be done, you know, the end goal is that these laws are null on their face, and there's a couple of particular laws that orchestrate the human trafficking racket of children and adults,
and one of them is called the SAFE The Safe Families Act, which was enacted in 1977, it was signed by William Jefferson Clinton.
And what it does is it retains one of their government contractors that all use these protection sounding names.
So this particular federal government contractor It's called the Department of Health and Human Services.
So it hires this contractor to be the oversight hiring agent for the state Perpetrators have some sounding names like Child Protective Services.
So it funds the racket.
It funds the racket.
I can't be more clear.
That particular code called the Adoption and Safe Families Act, which is tied to Title IV, which many of the people in the cabal understand, they're all funding mechanisms.
They're not They're funding mechanisms where they fund their fellow corporate contractors and their lobbyists, their leech lobbyists to steal our kids, to steal our parents.
So all of those so-called laws, those codes, Are illegal, null, and void on their face.
And they start with the legislators and they get signed by the government perpetrators.
And so that's what people have to keep in mind.
Those laws are meaningless.
They're They're human trafficking laws.
And so all of the actions that we've been talking about, the illegal criminal law system and the invasion of our privacy, they all originate by what I call inextricably intertwined illegal void codes.
And so wake up, America!
It's the codes that are stealing your Stealing and depriving you of your unalienable rights.
And so you have to stand up, you have to speak up, and you have to unite as a group to take back your rights.
It couldn't be more simple.
And yet the people, the victims Are all, again, whining on Facebook, you know, talking about their horror stories.
They become grandstanders.
They actually like the attention that they're getting by being victims.
And this is how deep it, this is how deep it is.
And so we have to flip the switch.
So thank you, Vim, for reporting what you're reporting and continuing to report this because wake up, America.
Your unalienable rights cannot be legislated.
Adjudicated, controlled, or taken from you, except under very limited circumstances if you are convicted of a crime by a jury of your peers, not by a person that's wearing a black robe.
It's that simple.
It all boils down to your unalienable rights that you are responsible to protect.
You have the unalienable right to uphold, protect, Defend and secure your unalienable rights.
And I'm going to say that one more time because that's all you really have to know.
You have the unalienable right to uphold, protect, defend, and secure your unalienable rights.
Not only do you have the unalienable right to do that, you have the duty to do that.
And so wake up.
Wake up America and wake up world.
And thank you very much, Fem, for everything that you're doing, and hopefully you're helping everybody to wake up.
And Catherine, thank you from the bottom of my heart, because again, no hesitation at all, to take this on with Roger Hillegas, and we are going to, we're going to be successful, we're going to get Roger released from his incarceration and these criminals are going to understand that we're not going to tolerate it.
We the people are not going to tolerate these crimes.
We're not going to tolerate murder, murder and trafficking and rape of our children.
It's outrageous.
Outrageous. I could go on forever in a day because I'm just outraged at what has happened.
It's our country.
They're sitting in our buildings.
They've taken over our families.
We say no.
Yeah, yeah. And what I want to emphasize here, you know, I'm going to use some sharp words here, but this is terrorism upon the people.
If this was any other, if these people, we weren't brainwashed in thinking that these people in the black robes and these so-called legislatures hold authority over us in terms of kidnapping our children, in terms of traumatizing our families, destroying our families, No, that is called tyranny.
That is called terrorism.
And that's what these people are.
These people are terrorists.
And that's what we need to emphasize.
And it has gotten so bad that the people out there, you are being hunted right now.
You're being hunted. That's it.
Plain and simple. You're being hunted.
And I know you feel this out there.
I know the people out there feel like you're being hunted, but you know what?
For a moment, take yourself out of your little bubble, right?
You think you're being hunted for XYZ reason, right?
And then the other guy you hear is being hunted for another reason.
And then over here, they're being hunted for another reason, right?
You need to understand that this is the same disease, the same cancer, the same system, the same people that are doing all the hunting.
And you need to understand that the guy that's taking his children taken away from him, and you, if you're getting your family's wealth taken away from you through these BS courts, same exact situation. It's the same cabal, same people that are targeting, we the people, and it's as simple as this. Let's get off our ass. Let's do these common law courts.
You have a lawyer here of 42 years in Catherine Hines. I know the people out there here. I mean, you ladies are two of the most intelligent people I've heard.
Literally, the words coming out of your mouth are words that could be used in order to rebut the power of these BS so-called courts of law.
The words that you use.
If people literally transcribe the words that you spoke, there is power in those words.
And so I want people out there to understand that you have two individuals here.
The contact information is below in that notice.
And they have put it out there to help you through this process to gain our freedoms back, to get our God-given rights back.
Ladies, is there anything that we missed out on that you'd like to talk about?
Or are we good to wrap this up?
Oh, sorry. Hang on one moment.
Sorry. I have you on mute because there's a little bit of feedback.
Sorry, Catherine. I just wanted to add, if anybody listening to this Can you hear me?
Yep, yep. Okay, if anybody listening in Nevada wants to be part of justice for anybody in Nevada and not just investigating the crimes being committed against Roger Hillegas.
Contact me at WLJARadio at AOL.com.
That's WLJARadio at AOL.com.
The WLJA stands for With Liberty and Justice for All.
And so let's stop playing Ain't It Awful and look at, you know, what we can do and do it.
So, you know, I'll talk to anybody who wants to be part of forming a common law court.
Just contact me.
Awesome, awesome. Yeah, I just want to put my email address out there as well.
Anybody who's free to call me at any time, get in touch with me.
It's Barbara, B-A-R-B-A-R-A at barbarastone.org.
And so you, we the people, we hold remedy in our hands.
We just have to claim it.
We have to step up. So we both want to hear from you.
Yeah, I mean, ladies and gentlemen out there, you heard it.
I mean, these two ladies are giving their time to, and you hear the level of experience, you hear the level of knowledge, you hear the level of intelligence.
They're giving you their time for free to help to make sure your children do not grow up to be slaves.
Please get off your ass, contact them.
Thank you very much for joining us for this episode of Blood Money.
I will see you on the next episode.
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