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Oct. 1, 2023 - Blood Money
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Deep State Treasonous Prostitutes and Other Reasons We Fight w/ Patrick Byrne (Eps104)
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All right, welcome to the latest episode of Blood Money today with a very special guest, Mr. Patrick.
Patrick Byrne. How you doing, sir?
Matt Miller, great to see you again.
Normally I'm bumping you into back stages somewhere, but great to see you here.
Really good to see you. So, you know, a little bit of background, you know, I met Patrick at the Reawaken America tour many times, you know, we did quite a number of interviews, you know, where I interviewed him.
And I gotta say, Patrick, you're one of my favorite people out there because you speak the truth.
You've, I mean, damn, you've been through trials and tribulations.
You didn't have to go down this avenue with your life.
And it is clearly for love of country that you are doing what you've been doing.
I mean, I know you've taken your hits.
So let's just quickly give a little bit of background.
Don't remind me. I know.
The PTSD is coming back, right?
Alright, let's take a mild stroll through PTSD for two minutes.
Give us a little bit of quick little background for people that don't know who Patrick Byrne is.
Well, one awkward thing, I hate to lead with this, but it's just front of mind, is I just had last week surgery number 115.
And I've also, they've stopped my heart about 400 times in my life.
So I've been on that death trip 500 times in my life.
This is a crooked tumor, unfortunately a benign tumor out of my ear.
But I've had cancer three times, three open chest surgery.
I'm like, I've always wanted, I've always felt like I should be in a Seinfeld episode.
Three, I tell you. Three open chest surgeries.
You think you had a tough week, you should have seen my week.
Three! You had a tough week.
Why is it I always sound...
Anyway, so...
But besides that, I did some other things in life.
Because I was sick so long, and that was all through my 20s it started.
It's been 38 years of end of life.
I did a PhD in philosophy at Stanford.
They were wonderful and a wonderful experience.
Started off in mathematical logic.
I encountered early woke.
And I reacted negatively against early woke and sort of dove into political philosophy really to understand our U.S. Constitution as opposed to this woke nonsense they were trying to teach in the late 1980s in the Bay Area.
So early woke.
Tell me a little bit about early woke.
It sounds like early woke you're referencing, like you said, the 80s, 90s.
Tell me what you started seeing that started to kind of clue you into as far as this woke insanity we're seeing today and the rising of that ridiculous movement.
Well, the intellectual origin...
Of course, it traces back to Marxism, the basic view of Marxism.
The world is composed in fools and knaves, and our job is to protect the fools from the knaves.
So there needs to be a third group of people who have special instinct and knowledge and just sense of justice in order to set the terms for the fools and the knaves.
Well, that basic intellectual model started off as capitalists and workers, By about 190 years ago, a bunch of people in Germany and Italy realized, well, it doesn't seem to be happening.
We can't get people to form class consciousness as workers.
So we're going to do it through culture.
And there's going to be a long march through the institution.
So this was that Frankfurt School you've probably heard people talk about.
Yes. And so that's been this 90-year program to take America over through its institutions and culture, through the universities and Hollywood and the writers.
And now you just replace that.
What we're experiencing really now is Maoism With American characteristics, like Deng Xiaoping used to say, they do socialism with Chinese characteristics.
We're getting Maoism with American characteristics.
And what Mao's particular contribution to the blend is this.
So should I take a breath and let you jump in?
No, no, this is fascinating.
I like to let the guests roll when they're talking about really interesting stuff.
So please, please go ahead.
So that's the intellectual origins.
But Mao's great contribution to the blend is to understand movement warfare.
And he was, of course, a great guerrilla leader.
Wins in 1949, takes China.
He didn't do such a good job managing China.
And by 64, he had been kind of sidelined.
He wanted to get back in the game.
In 66, he started the Great Cultural Revolution.
In the time of the Great Cultural Revolution, as one would say in Chinese.
So I spent 83, 84 in Beijing studying Chinese, Chinese history, and philosophy, back from Confucius and Lao Tzu up through Marx, Lenin, and Mao.
So 40 years ago, I was studying Maoism in China.
From the mess.
So I know something about this.
So anyway, and what he did that was so brilliant, and I'll close on this last point.
He created five goods and five bads.
There's five types of good people you could be.
You could be a peasant, you could be a revolutionary, you could be a worker, you know what that is.
Five bads.
If you were a landlord, if you were a capitalist, if you were anti-revolutionary, if you had something like Western thought, whatever.
And if you were bad, your children were bad too.
Your children were bad too.
And the only way out for them, and you would get humiliated in public and maybe murdered or rusticated or beaten, dunce caps.
Your only way out for your children is to adopt a new identity.
And that new identity, if the dad was a capitalist, you can't be the son of a capitalist one way or another.
So the only identity you can adopt that gets you out of it is being red, being intensely red.
And I would say all of that maps onto what we're going through, where basically kids are being told they're inherently bad, If they're white, if they're Christian, if they're straight, this or that.
But ultimately, the thing that gets everybody out of that bad category is going LGBTQ or trans or something like that, just adopting some nut job version of it.
And Mao also used transgenderism.
It was a big secret because the CCP was always ashamed of it.
But the whole Mao thing is also about being androgynous, skinny-skinny Mao tunics which reveal no form, and transgender prostitutes were used to control a lot by the secret police in China.
So there's all these elements of what's going on now that just are straight out of 66 to 1976.
So transgender prostitutes, are we talking about blackmailing politicians, that sort of thing?
No, I'm talking about in China during this period, the countryside, the secret police people were in control in different ways.
But they used a lot of prostitution rings for blackmail, including transgender.
And there's a famous movie and play called M. Butterfly.
To an old opera, I think, Puccini.
Yeah. That was about an American sailor in Japan who falls for a Japanese geisha.
It's a famous old opera.
It was Madame Butterfly. There's a more recent movie in China, but it was based on real events.
There was a French diplomat based in China for years and years, and in the 1980s, he got revealed.
He'd been having an affair with a Chinese courtesan the whole time, this beautiful girl, who actually was a dude.
Whoa. The M. Butterfly.
So famous movie about 20 years ago.
Yeah, I do. I do remember that movie.
You know, one of the things that's interesting is so, you know, they had the one child policy, right?
So aren't theoretically male children favored in that one China policy, one child policy back in the day?
I guess the equation I'm trying to put forth is if you have a one child policy, it's a bunch of dudes.
If you don't have enough females in society, I could even see that as being a motivation for transgenderism.
You're creating the female experience because you basically have a whole bunch of males, right?
It's what armies have done.
I mean, that happens in armies.
It used to happen in the samurai armies.
Yeah, I don't know what it...
Well, that came a little bit in a different order.
The one-child policy came after this stuff.
But it was still...
Anyway, so what we're facing in our movement is psychologically...
It's a psychological movement to disorient people and...
To make them guilty of any identity they've ever had and be willing to renounce that identity and embrace some new identity which frees them from the past.
So what we're going through has that feel of a Maoist revolution.
That kind of movement warfare is specifically Mao.
By the way, as we're talking here, some of the guests are asking questions.
So I might throw a few questions at you coming from some of the people that are in the chat.
Question about the 90-year statement you made.
So this has been ongoing for 90 years in terms of trying to infiltrate our society, right?
Yeah, it was about 90 years ago that the Frankfurt School of Philosophy, Frankfurt, Germany, it was a bunch of Marxists, came to the conclusion that Eric Fromm and Witt Vogel and, pardon me, pardon me, It's based on Gramsci.
Gramsci was in prison. He wrote these prison notebooks.
It was about how we have to go on this long march for the institutions.
We're not going to get there.
Workers are not going to get there through class consciousness.
So we're going to build it.
It's going to be whites versus blacks.
It's going to be women versus men.
The oppressor and the oppressed.
The women versus men.
Each one of these is going to be its own revolution, its own liberation movement.
Through this, that's how we overthrow the existing order.
Breitbart is the guy who really focused on this, that realized culture is upstream.
Republicans and conservatives had seeded the culture wars decades ago.
Ultimately, who determines the culture?
The culture determines all the other stuff downstream.
Wow, wow. So, Patrick, before the interview, you had actually, regardless of all the horrible things happening, and let me take a sec to list them out here, we've been covering the border invasion.
We call it invasion of all kinds, right?
Border invasion, invasion of our schools, invasion of our judicial system, invasion of our legislature, pretty much invasion across the board.
Medical industrial complex, military industrial complex, everything seems to have been invaded in some form or another.
In terms of these massive changes that we're trying to see pushed through in our culture, right?
You said though that you are positive about, you have positive feelings about what the future might hold.
Let's talk about that for a sec.
Quite positive because, you know, the cover-up is over.
There are people living under a rock who are still buying into the program, but It's the first step.
Well, you know, they were the apocalypse.
Apocalypse really doesn't mean, you know, a big napalm strike.
Apocalypse means uncovering.
It's a cover, like an eclipse.
So it's an uncovering.
And the apocalypse, they may be Ivana's.
That is upon us may be a great uncovering of a great deal of truth and a great deal of facts.
And in terms of that, it just may take the truth.
And it may make people knowing the truth about things.
And if that's where we are, we can get out of this without a war, we can get out of this without a civil war, without anyone dying.
I'm a big proponent of what's called truth and reconciliation.
I know I don't have many fans on my side, on our side of the table, on this one.
Once in a while, well, anyway, it's about, so I think that we're very close to the truth coming out about everything.
In fact, the truth already has, who do you meet that buys into the COVID narrative anymore?
You know, once in a while I'm playing, you see a few idiots sitting there with their shields on, but it's almost, it's 98%, it seems no one buys into that.
The vaccine, All kinds of things.
BLM is bankrupt.
BLM has turned out to be...
So, so many of these things have...
You know, I saw...
There's a good clip on Twitter today of a woman in Oakland, ultra-lefty Oakland, and she's a woman standing up screaming at the town council about the violence and saying, basically, we've had enough with your ideology.
We've got to have... Everyone's getting assaulted.
There's got to be law and order.
So just that we're at the point that the veil is lifting, that's step one.
That gives me great hope. Don't you feel the veil lifting across society?
I do. I do. But there is always like, I don't know, there's still that 10% just walking around with masks on.
I think, oh my God, are you guys completely out of your minds?
In fact, it reminds me of, I think it was Joey Gilbert on his show said that the ancient Greeks proved that masks don't work.
So it's been a good 2,500 years.
So you wonder why some of these people are still doing that.
I mean, the brainwashing doesn't seem to have left some, but yes, I do see 90% of society at least, you know, moving away from that sort of behavior.
You know why? It's part of the PSYOP that they so frighten everybody.
When people are frightened, they stop thinking from their frontal lobe, which is basically the motherboard.
They start thinking from the amygdala.
It's a part of the brain that controls fight or flight.
It's why a crucial part of the PSYOP has been about frightening people as much as they can.
When you're thinking from your amygdala, you become impervious to logic and you look for herd.
You become a herd animal again.
You just look at what the herd's doing and you do that.
So trying to reason with someone who's thinking from their amygdala It's like trying to reason with a drowning man.
You can't do it. I'm sure you've had your experiences in the last few years, them talking to relatives about, like, here's the data on COVID, on masks, on vaccines.
Here's the data on ivermectin.
It doesn't matter what you show.
They just can't process.
That's because their frontal lobe is shut down.
They're thinking of their amygdala.
Well, well, I mean, is this, I mean, you know, you might not know the answers, but is this an IQ kind of based condition that certain people with higher IQs don't suffer from that?
Is it a, is it a hypnosis thing?
I mean, what causes? It's the more when you're panicked, you think from that, that's your fight or flight part of your brain.
And it's completely irrational.
Have you had that experience in the last few years trying to show people actual data and having them just unable to process it?
You know, it's funny because we just did an episode of AHN News Live from Washington, D.C. on the border and we talked about a story about how, you know, we know all the stuff happening at the border, right?
We're getting images out there with like rape trees, you know, clothing with blood on it, clear acts of violence, men walking into the country with guns, all the worst stuff you could ever think of, right?
And so we have evidence of this.
And I remember when I was canvassing for a politician a few months back, I met a liberal woman and said, you know, all this stuff happening on our borders, crazy, and started talking about it.
And lo and behold, I have a Mexican gentleman next to me, actually a first generation immigrant that's been here for, you know, maybe 20 years, right?
And he's like, I still live by the border.
I live on the American side, got a family here, you know, thanks for letting me into this country.
It's a beautiful country. I want to protect this country against what's happening at the border.
That's why he was there canvassing with me.
And this liberal woman, however much we told her, these are the realities, she told us flat out that we're liars.
And I get it when, you know, somebody that looks like me, I look like a white boy, right?
But the dude that is, like, clearly darker than me, he's got an accent and everything.
It's clear that he's a first-generation immigrant.
It's clear that, you know, he's talking the truth, but nonetheless, this woman didn't even want to listen to this guy.
And to even make it worse, the guy actually had his cell phone with him and he was like, look, I've taken pictures of these rape trees and, you know, other images that show that there's been acts of violence and she wouldn't even look at it.
That's how brainwashed she was because that would be shattering to her reality that she is so invested in for at least the last two, three years.
And, you know, it's just like when North Korea has defected to the South.
I've read reports of how they can be taken through Seoul and driven through Seoul.
And they look around, they just cannot process.
They believe it's fake. They believe it's cardboard.
They cannot process it because it so violates everything that they've been drilled.
They're just so brainwashed. That's what it is.
So anyway, that's been a part of what's going on.
And you've been witnessing it.
Every time you deal with some relative who's telling you to put your mask up, Yeah, well, they're sitting at dinner.
Have you ever done this? Okay, breathe on a glass.
Yeah. Because if it fogs, you now know that the mask is actually not stopping the water vapor, which means it's not stopping the virus.
It doesn't do any good.
Or you could strap one of those on your butt and fart and you get your answer.
It's not like the fart smell is being blocked.
There's really simple experiments you could do to prove that these things don't work.
In all seriousness, you're an insider.
You talk to a lot of individuals that have privileged information.
What are the senses you're getting?
What are the information you're getting that tells you what the next steps are, what is coming down the pipeline?
Well, first of all, outside of what the economists would call an exogenous event, you know, we're going to have an election in 17 months.
We're going to keep the peace until then.
The worst thing we could do is have it go get violent, because they are going to crack down, delay the election.
There'll never be an election.
So we've got to do everything to keep...
I always think of that scene in Pulp Fiction.
What's Fonzie like? Fonzie's cool, baby.
Everything's cool. We're going to get to the election.
We've got to get through the election.
Then we're going to have peace and reconciliation.
And truth and reconciliation.
And that's a process that Nelson Mandela came up with that actually he rightfully won the Nobel Prize for.
Have you ever heard that phrase, know how it works?
Yeah, I mean, the general gist of it, from what I understand, is that the truth comes out, you know, the world sees the truth, but there's some form of reconciliation in terms of, like, we're not necessarily hanging people in Washington, D.C. Is that correct?
More specifically, Nelson Mandela said, what are we going to do after apartheid?
We're going to hang 100,000 white people, everybody who worked as a jailer, everybody who worked as a cop.
No, we're going to give, let's say, a six-day period.
And every town and village and city is going to have these hearings.
And anybody can come forward and say, look, in the days of apartheid, I was a jailer.
I worked in that prison.
I murdered three prisoners.
I beat 25 prisoners.
Whatever. You can say anything.
You said it in front of your community, in front of the guy's family.
And... You were forgiven.
You were forgiven, no repercussions.
If you left something out, if you'd murdered four prisoners and someone else acknowledged it, they found that they could then try it for the fourth.
Well, what that meant was because everyone started coming forward quickly and you only had that limited window What it meant was you really had an incentive to come forward and tell everything you had been part of.
And what that meant was, you know, and here in the United States, it takes us 10 years to investigate Hillary Clinton's diswiped emails.
If they tried to investigate apartheid in South Africa, how many decades would that have taken?
Instead, they got like in 30 or 60 days or something, or 90 days, that the whole It was all out.
It was all out on the table.
Everything was confessed, acknowledged, and everyone just moved on.
And that's how he got through a civil war.
He won the Nobel Prize for it.
And I would recommend...
I think that this goes from the COVID hysteria.
I think Antifa and BLM were engineered.
I think that there were...
I think the election was stolen.
I think that each of those things I just described, there's probably 100 to 200 people involved.
And then I think there's this whole cancel culture.
And I think there are forces behind the scenes that have been responsible for putting that all together.
And that all has to get on the table.
And you know what? Maybe some Republicans have some things they need to get on the table too.
Everything gets on the table. Everything gets forgiven.
And we move forward.
And that way, like in 30 days, we could be through this.
Both sides have things to acknowledge.
And we get through this. Or what are we going to do?
If we really pursue it legally, it'll be 100 years and 10,000, 50,000 people.
Anyway, that's what my approach would be.
However, a lot of people think, no way, these guys destroyed tens of millions of lives, millions of businesses, no fucking way, Patrick Byrne, no way.
So I know I'm kind of a lonely voice on our side of the table, but I'm a bit...
You know, it's like you would hope that there was a judicial system that actually functioned.
That's my beef right now with how things are functioning, because truth and reconciliation...
You know, it's a good idea, especially if you don't want to get into a civil war.
And I've actually lived through a civil war for a couple of years of my life.
When I was a kid, my dad actually got a job in Beirut, and we went there for a couple of years.
There was a ceasefire at the time.
They thought the civil war was going to stop.
And then as soon as we got there, all hell broke loose.
So I mean, having seen...
What year? 82.
81, 82. Right around there.
Crazy enough, he was also kidnapped by Hezbollah.
He got out. Long story.
But, you know, pretty crazy two years.
And having seen that as a child, I mean, it's...
Civil War is not a joke.
I mean, you're not kidding when you say it could be 100 years before the country gets back into shape after something like that.
It's funny you bring that up, Ben, because I have spent a fair bit of time in Lebanon myself.
I saw the days of the Civil War.
And I had this odd experience back when Beirut was all still rubble.
They used to, before it got rebuilt, people from all faiths used to do confessions, used to want to take me to different places and show me their neighborhoods, what it had been like.
They'd say, oh, this was the Rodeo Drive of Beirut.
You can't believe how wonderful Beirut was.
And this was where the Mercedes dealership was, and that was the Rolls Royce dealership.
And I kind of wondered why they did that.
I thought, are they embarrassed?
And after a few visits, I realized they were warning me.
They were warning me that it happened here, and what happened to us could happen to you.
We were the height of civilization, and they really were.
It was better than Paris.
You know, Beirut in the 60s, what it was supposed to be.
Oh, yeah. I mean, Beirut, you know, just building off of that, it was the Paris of the Middle East.
Anybody that I've never, I mean, I wasn't even born at the time, but anybody that I know that's been there, that was like the hot spot you went to, to party, to nightlife, clothing.
If you didn't go to Paris, you went to Lebanon.
To be honest, it was even more chic than Paris.
They took Paris and they refined it and did it better.
The Lebanese, you know how they are with taste.
And they did it better.
And yet it was all rubble when I was first going there.
And what they were telling me, I realized sometimes, was This could happen anywhere.
It happened to us, and we thought we were the pinnacle of civilization.
And I've often thought when I see these gung-ho yahoos in America talking about civil war, they don't know what they're talking about.
They're always thinking of those days in Lebanon.
They have no idea what they're talking about, and they have no idea how far it goes once it starts.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, it's nice to play video games and stuff.
You don't really get a sense of it.
What I remember, I was eight years old at the time.
I might have even been younger. I might have been six years old.
What I remember is going to school behind a, you know, barrier sandbags, hearing the bullets hit the sandbags.
Like, literally, if the sandbags weren't there...
I would have been killed, my dad, my mom, you know.
That's the reality. I remember explosions, random explosions, like two blocks down.
I mean, it's aerial bombings, you know.
This is, I don't think any, I don't think people that have not lived through that understand what that means.
And it is killed by generations.
Yeah, and I didn't even go further.
There's that issue.
And then there's another issue, which is it was modeled out 20 years ago in America.
What happens if there's a financial collapse or an EMP or whatever?
And in all cases, we turn out to be much more fragile than we intuitively understand.
America is Alive because of all these dozens of invisible supply chains and three key ones being food, fuel, and pharmaceuticals.
Food in cities.
There's only three days of food in the cities.
There's nine meals and then your kids are starving.
That will get violent after three days, and after two weeks it will be through a tipping point that it cannot come back.
On fuel, once the fuel stops flowing, then the diesel truck stops flowing.
Once they stop flowing, food stops flowing, more fuel stops flowing.
Again, the system unspools.
Third, pharmaceuticals.
There's 30 days of pharmaceuticals in the supply chain.
50% of people over 50 are walking around with conditions that without the right pharmaceuticals, you're dead in six months.
And that includes every diabetic.
So every diabetic starts dying in 30 days.
So if we go to civil war, it's been modeled, and unfortunately, 90% of us die from this over one year.
One year, 90% die from the supply chain collapse.
I think that's the Chinese plan.
They want that to happen.
We collapse. As we collapse, then the cartels get three years to rape, pillage, loot, and burn.
And we are a husk that the Chinese colonized and occupied by 2028.
And if this sounds extreme, I'm going to give you a link to the speech by the Minister of Defense of China, the highest level leak in Chinese history, which explained in 2003 how the day is going to come when they hit the US with a bioweapon, destabilize them, go to civil war, let the cartels rape, pillage, loot, burn, occupy us, and thereby solve the problem that for 2,500 years bedeviled the Han race, which is lack of arable land.
So, it's in their own speech.
It's not me. It's in their own material.
I'll send you the link after the show.
You know, the mentality of this, I don't understand.
Because if you look at it historically, and correct me if I'm wrong here, but China is enjoying its current level of wealth, power, because of us, right?
Yeah, absolutely.
It's a really thankless way to deal with the people, the country that helped you get to the next level.
You know, Napoleon said, China is a sleeping dragon and woe to the country that awakens that dragon.
China has terribly bitter memories.
And it's terribly bitter because for 2200 years it was the center of global civilization.
It was the wealthiest nation on earth.
It was everything. For the last 300 years it's been in the depression.
It wasn't our fault.
It was in it for 100 or 200 years before the West got there.
But once we showed up we did not help.
The West did not help.
Remember the English Polluted them with heroin for decades and fought two wars.
The opium wars were wars that the English fought against the Chinese to say, no, you must let us sell your people heroin, opium.
But I would think that they would remember of all the West, you know, the West was going to carve up China like they did Africa and the Middle East.
And they did not because the United States stepped up.
It was just feeling itself on the world stage.
It's called the Open Door Policy.
I think it was 1898.
And the U.S. said it was the first time we went from being just a hemispheric power.
We communicated to the European powers.
We opposed the carving up of China.
And we kept them from doing it.
And we defended them in World War II. I had a great uncle who got killed.
Fighting the Japanese, defending China in World War II. And I thought, you know, Americans and Chinese love each other.
I always grew up thinking that we love each other as a people.
The Irish and the Chinese built the railroads and such.
But what happens with revolutions, and I'll close with this note, there's a great book about this, how revolutions tend to go to their most extreme elements.
The French go to the Jacobins, the Russians go to the Bolsheviks.
English went to Cromwell.
Only the US, of all the four major revolutions, only the US did it not happen.
And that was because of George Washington.
And there's a book. So anyway, what's happened in China is that there's really three elements in the Communist Party.
There is the...
There's the group that says, okay, we were communists and communism got us out of the fuel age and into modernity and it's time to evolve and become like Singapore, move on to freedom.
There's another group that says, no, communists, same stuff, but we're going to stay communists, but We're going to be free, but the Communist Party stays in charge.
And the third and most extreme group says, no, we're going to be like, the most important thing is that the CCP stays in charge, and we're going to be like North Korea.
And that is the wing that Xi Jinping runs, and that wing is a Senate.
And it's the most extreme part of the three elements in the Communist Party.
Wow. Talk about destiny, right?
You were in China in 83, 84, learning about Maoism.
Have you ever thought about that?
What was the universe thinking that you actually went through this experience 40 years prior to experiencing these problems that we are experiencing right now?
It's funny you say that.
I guess I was always fascinated since I was a child with China.
And I was raised in a Catholic household.
And I was very serious Catholic as a boy, an altar boy and all that stuff.
But I think I understood.
And so I was nine years old when Kissinger and Nixon opened up China.
And that the great story of my lifetime would be the rise of China.
And I guess I was always curious about the Chinese values.
And to be honest, there are things I see in Western values.
That I find lacking that I found in China.
Humility and discipline.
All these ways that I thought we were supposed to be that like my grandparents and great grandparents taught you to be.
I lived through the 60s and 70s seeing us becoming super lazy about it all.
And I would look at the Chinese and just admire them and how they weren't lazy about it.
I guess I always thought the great story was going to be some way of merging the principles of liberalism, of political liberalism that we believe in, With these wonderful elements of Chinese history and culture, that the great story on the world stage for my lifetime would be how those emerged.
And ultimately, if these two cultures got together, we can create the world order that is stable and healthy for the world.
However, I'm afraid to say that after 40 years of thinking in those terms, I have joined those like Michael Pillsbury, who said just what you say.
He said, well, thanks a lot, friend.
We spent our life. The most normal people in college that I knew in college were the ones who stayed on.
Of all those of us who studied Chinese, there were kids who stayed on and went to the World Bank and they didn't have to help China.
And we looked at them like the most wonderful people.
The people who just devoted their life were going to help China stand up and join its rightful place on the world stage.
And it turns out the whole time this was all about seeing, you know, this was all, well, Napoleon was right.
Yeah, yeah. Earlier, when you were talking about truth and reconciliation, it sounded like you were saying that election 2024 is going to come.
We should all be cool until then.
Let's, you know, no violence, nothing.
Let's just let the election happen.
And then after that, the truth and reconciliation comes.
I guess what I deciphered from that is that you think that Trump's going to win, hence and therefore there's going to be a chance for truth and reconciliation.
Well, I wouldn't say that we sit back until the election.
We have to work like madmen to get We have to work like madmen to get on election integrity.
And you can do stuff anywhere you are watching this.
You can work on your voter rolls.
What we've learned is for them to stuff the ballot box, they first stuff the voter rolls.
So in every county, there are efforts to clean voter rolls.
They're discovering hundreds of thousands, millions of votes in New York from 2020.
I mean, they're just realizing that our voter rolls around that country are just filled with slop.
So that's one thing to get involved with and also election integrity efforts on election day.
So that's one thing.
I have red lines where I say, so I'm all about peace.
I'm all about peace. I'm afraid that they're going to try some kooky stuff.
What they're going to try to do is get either there'll be a limited nuclear exchange or they'll get a civil war going.
They'll say, white nationalists have started this and that.
We need to have a police state.
Or they're going to say, get a civil war going from among our new guests in the country.
They'll get a civil war going.
But somewhere there's another. It needs the federal government to go martial law.
And what do you know? We can't have an election.
I'm afraid they're going down that path.
And that's not...
That would be disheartening if they go down that path.
That's not going to work for them. I think that they're afraid, and I know that they're afraid because they talk to journalists and journalists ask me questions, and so I know what they're thinking.
And what they're thinking is we're going to hang 1,500 of them.
We're not going to hang 1,500 of them, especially if everyone starts being reasonable.
But if they keep doubling down and doubling down, if they try to do another COVID-19 thing, Anyway, so what do you think is going to happen?
What do you think is going to happen? You know, I hate to be pessimistic, and we've been doing a lot of interviews about this topic.
I got to tell you, not very many people are optimistic that 2024, they think there's going to be a storm election.
They think the steal is already in.
They think the way the behavior of the people leading into the 2024 election...
Is that there is some kind of steal.
I mean, what do you tell people in response to that?
I mean, are these voter rolls across the nation genuinely being cleaned out?
Are we doing the right preparations?
Or are we right to be cynical in thinking that, you know, this election might also be stolen like 2020?
Oh, they're absolutely going to go all in.
They waited 100 years for this moment.
They don't want to give it up. The government itself is not along with the Biden regime anymore.
The higher levels of government aren't, but a whole bunch of people in government have checked out on this.
I think that they're going to absolutely try to steal it, but we're making a lot of progress.
I think it's four yards in a cloud of dust.
We're going down the field, fixing the election system, and I think we're going to score just on that.
Just so you know, there are some nice 20-yard passes that can accelerate that motion, but if we just stick to the game plan, four yards in a cloud of dust, fixing the voter rolls, and doing the work on Election Day, I think we get there.
Now, on top of that, just, you know, we got a couple of screens in mind that'll maybe pick up 10 or 20 yards as we go.
Could you elaborate on that, or that was cryptic?
Well, there are court cases, and people don't quite understand, because, of course, we live in an information system.
That there are court cases and there's facts.
Tremendous amounts of information have surfaced.
So Carrie Lake. Carrie Lake, what's going on in Arizona?
You know, some dirty judges can all they want, bang the gavel and say, well, it doesn't rise to the level of this, it doesn't rise to the level of that.
Anyone who's not living under a rock sees That in Arizona, even Democrats are saying this is outrageous.
They see how crazy sloppy the system is and how many excuses you can get away with for stuff.
So that's gone on around the country.
And believe it or not, behind the scenes, there's lawyers.
A lot of the lawyers know each other.
Some of the lawyers are the same lawyers.
And all these different cases have created the puzzle pieces.
And when you can have the view where the puzzle pieces from all the different cases get put together, you really do have a very powerful view.
And we're getting that overall view has been really largely filled in at this point.
And you know we're correct.
Yeah, yeah. You know, I'm noticing my picture stuttering a little bit.
This seems to happen. So I'm going to keep talking.
You could hear my audio well though, right?
Yes. Awesome, awesome.
So, okay, so for people that are cynical about what's coming down the pipeline for 2024, right?
Is there, I mean, what would you tell them?
You're saying that, you know, cleaning up the voter rolls, making sure that people are active and actually, you know, out there canvassing, being involved.
I mean, what else is there that we can do to ensure that really, you know, this is a turning of the tide that we get rid of this corrupt regime?
You know, here's the third one.
The third thing would be precinctstrategy.com.
Are you familiar with Steve's stern effort?
Yes, yes. Well, so every, so the way it works is every, so I'm not even a registered Republican, so just, you know, but every 125 Republicans have one guy who represents them to your local county Republican board.
And it's, there's 400,000 of them in the country, 400,000 seats.
Only 200,000 of those seats are filled.
200,000 are empty.
All you have to do is go sign your name.
You become one of those Republican delegates.
You, grassroots, can take over the Republican Party from within.
Any time you want.
You don't need to run for anything.
You don't need to canvas. You don't need to do it.
All you have to do, half the seats are empty.
Look in every county, find out how many delegate seats there are, and if there's some missing, just go down and put your name for it and take it.
And all it does is once a month, it means you're going to get together with somebody in some, somebody's, you know, in a holiday and conference room.
There's going to be chicken pot pie.
You're going to sit for two hours and talk about the business of that county Republican Party.
It's there for the taking.
And I have come to realize I mean, come to realize, come to acknowledge the Republican Party are a bunch of plutocrats.
It's everything the Democrats say.
The Republican apparatchiks are just as bad or almost as bad as the Democrats.
If the Democrats are 60% of them, if the Democrats are 70% of them in the party are corrupt and silly and don't really care about the country, with the Republicans, it's maybe 62%, okay?
So it's a little bit better.
But we can take over that Republican Party, and that is making a huge difference.
That is making a huge difference.
It's happened in Arizona and Michigan and Georgia.
And why that makes such a difference?
Because everything that happened in 2020 could have been prevented.
The Republican Party had the right to do all kinds of things it didn't do.
It just stepped back and let it happen.
Mark Elias went around the country, did 700 court cases to get court laws changed.
Well, the election law is reinterpreted.
In those 700 cases, the RNC did not show up in 650 of 700.
So as people can piss and moan about Mark Lyas going around the country and doing this, the whole time the Republican bar And that is because they're dropped.
So we've got to take it over from within.
I mean, you're a very wise person.
You're a very smart person. Now, what would you see?
It seems that we are going through a sea change in our country, right?
One of the things we notice is that this medical and industrial complex is really falling apart.
That medicine 2.0 or 3.0, depending upon how you categorize different medical industries, is coming very soon.
Some people are already...
On board with Medicine 2.0, a new approach to preventative care.
So we noticed that there's a shift happening.
What kind of shift do you see in the future of America, in this America 2.0, where hopefully we put a lot of this corruption behind us and we move forward into the future.
One thing is, any doctor who is part of the Vax Brigade is not a doctor I would see ever again.
They're not a scientist. They don't think for themselves.
They most likely were giving you shots because they got bonuses by giving you shots.
And I just wouldn't see such a doctor again.
So first thing, the first filter I have for any doctor in the future is any doctor who was part of that shenanigan is not a doctor in my mind.
That's an employee.
That's a clerk. A doctor who's giving you orders about, I can't give you ivermectin because my hospital policy is this or that.
That's a clerk. That's not a doctor.
I would never see those. So the first shift I would do is shift away from any doctors who were part of this nonsense.
And that will, if people have that as an attitude, that will drive the shift towards 2.0 that you're looking for.
You know, Patrick, I'm getting notes from the audience that are, the audio.
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Is it okay if I log out and log right back in?
Sure. Yeah. And you know what?
It might not hurt for you to do the same.
I think it'll refresh our audio.
I'm only going to have a couple more questions.
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Oh, there, Miller. Excellent, excellent.
Sorry about that. It seems like it's working much better now.
So, yeah, so regarding our 2024 election, we were just talking about what kind of shifts could we expect coming in the future with really this election being so instrumental in so many of our...
Institutions being so corrupt across the board.
I mean, could we imagine that we are going to fix a lot of these issues, that we have a better medical industry coming, that we have a better way of policing, a better judicial system?
I mean, are any of these problems going to be fixed?
Well, I think we are in the final state.
I think if we get to 2024, it's the last election for this country unless we...
Unless something good happens.
And I think what we're going down is in a socialist revolution.
The plan has been to...
I finally understand where all these lefties have seemed unconcerned about the sustainability of government programs all of my life.
Now I get it. It's because they don't care if it all collapses into rubble, because their plan is they seize control and emerge out of the rubble in charge of an authoritarian government.
A government which has ceded our responsibility, our sovereignty to the World Health Organization.
Have you covered that issue?
Yeah, yeah. I mean, what's happening with the UN, what's happening with the World Health Organization, how Biden's essentially given a lot of our rights away to these international groups.
I mean, seems very much in line with a lot of this, you know, agenda 2030 dialogue that we hear on the show.
Well, let me tell you something, because something just happened this afternoon about this.
Yeah, America by treaty, Biden has signed away Philadelphia lawyer, a bunch of lawyers created this because he could never have gotten through the Senate.
An amendment to a treaty.
So now the World Health Organization has the power by the treaty that we previously signed to do as follows.
They can declare anything they want in any country a pandemic.
And they tell you your country has a pandemic of something.
They say, here's how you fix that pandemic.
And you have to do it.
And you're just following their orders.
So if they tell you America, you have a pandemic of SARS-2, COVID-19, and you have to give everyone this jab.
Biden can force it down people's throat, or into people's arms, legally on the grounds that, look, I'm just going along with my treating obligations to this World Health Organization, which has ordered this.
Well, you don't know.
There's no reason the World Health Organization doesn't just decide that there's, in the United States, a pandemic of extremism, or there's a pandemic of white nationalism.
Or there's a pandemic of whiteness.
I don't know. And it's part of the treaty that you can't question them.
They cannot be questioned. Whatever they say is a pandemic is a pandemic.
Well, this is so absurd on the face of it that...
So the fact that there...
Even doing things like that makes me think that they're trying to provoke us.
I have been Mr.
Peace. I've been all about keeping the peace, but I repeatedly say the first time anybody sees a blue helmet within the United States, I rescind all previous advice I've ever given on that subject.
Yeah, yeah. You mean when the UN walks in, it's basically at that point, you know, there is no peace.
We're basically clearly...
I mean, we're being invaded in so many ways, as we listed earlier on, but that's a point where that's a clear-cut invasion.
That's a declaration of war at that point.
Well, they want a civil war to start, and then they're going to frame it as a race war.
White racists are trying to exterminate people in the cities, and so we've called the United Nations to send blue helmets to protect the people in the cities.
Let me tell you, they never leave.
They and the cartels take over.
It's three years.
It's done. When we're all exterminated.
By the way, the Chinese plan on keeping 30 million whites alive as slaves.
And again, it's in the document I'm going to send you.
I'm going to send you right now the link to the document you need to put up.
Actually, if you send it, I'll put the link here as a caption so everybody else could check it out as well.
Okay, we'll be sending it right now.
Okay. This is awesome.
And you texted me a minute ago, right?
If you text it to me, I'll just copy it and put it on there.
Yeah. I mean, you texted me, so there you go.
Boom. I've just sent you the speech.
And that's never been denied by the Chinese.
And it leaked in 08.
It was published in Epoch Times, but it's an 03 speech.
This was the Minister of Defense.
He retired. He's still the vice chairman of the party, last I checked.
And he says this is how they're going to do it.
And... I'm sorry if this sounds gloom and doom, but I didn't make the rules.
This is what they say is going to happen.
They're going to be building condos in your assembly.
Every nice home in America has already had a deed issued on it in China.
There's some colonel in China who thinks he gets your home, Ben, wherever it is, and he looks at it on...
Google Earth once a month.
He sees the new hot tub you put in.
He thanks you. He believes that by 2028, he's occupying that home.
Maybe 2027.
Wow. I can tell you more about the whole 100-year marathon if you want.
Yeah, I would love to hear about it.
I mean, the idea of a general in China claiming homes and land of people just sounds so absurd.
Let me explain.
In 1949, the Chinese took over.
They adopted a 100-year plan to rise from this impoverished status, of which they were ashamed, back to being the greatest civilization on Earth.
It was called the 100-year marathon.
To replace the U.S. as a hegemon and reduce us to a vassal state.
In 1998, two Chinese colonels published a book out of English called Unrestricted Warfare, and it concerned how this was going to happen.
And there's six levels to warfare.
And we are so barbaric.
We only recognize the sixth level as warfare.
That's where bullets fly. They think in terms of cultural warfare, diplomatic warfare, civilizational.
They think in these softer terms.
And that's the Confucius Institute, those kinds of things.
So then The real book, if you really want a good academic-ish type thing on this, look up the book called The 100-Year Marathon.
Michael Pillsbury was with Kissinger in 1971, opening up China.
He was a Chinese dove all his life, all in favor of let's help China China.
He wrote a book in 2015 that said, I've been wrong my whole life.
I now get it. China is on a plan.
To flip us and conquer us.
And they literally have already issued the deeds.
So that Chinese major or that Chinese colonel knows as he's working these days, Vem, he thinks there's this payoff.
He thinks they occupy by 2049.
That was the original goal.
In 2010, they accelerated the date to 2030.
Chinese now think that they're occupying by 2028, maybe 2027.
The next step is to get us into a civil war.
We go into civil war.
Everything collapses. 90% of us die from the civil war, from just the supply chain, forgetting any bullets, but just the collapse in food and fuel and medicines.
Within one year, 90% of Americans are dead.
The cartels are given carte blanche in the blue helmets to just sweep up anything they want, Great pillage, loot, and burn for three years.
And when there's a carcass, then China colonizes.
And this is in their material.
So go look up those speeches.
Before I get letters about being kooky, kooky, kooky, go read their material.
Go read these books that I've talked about, okay?
So this is how they talk.
You know, I got a question about the Chinese 100-year plan, but I just remembered.
I had to make a point about the title.
So this title here, we go for salacious things, deep state, treasonous prostitutes, and other reasons we fight.
That's actually a quote that I came up with, not what Patrick came up with, but we like to go with salacious titles because, you know, that's what we've been talking about here on Blood Money is the fact that so much of this is going on.
And this leads to my next question about the treasonous quote, right?
So the Chinese have a 100-year plan.
Before you do, can I comment on the title?
Sure. Because I don't think that title is appropriate.
I think it's a little unfair to some fine woman out there just trying to make a living.
I've met some, you know, there's the world's oldest profession.
And I just don't think it's very...
It's not fair to them to compare them with the slime wall traders that are in the midst of...
I think it's not fair to the prostitutes to compare them to the people we're talking about here, okay?
So let's be sure all the special ladies as we get rid of this slime, okay?
That is hilarious, because it's funny, on Blood Money we call a lot of these politicians prostitutes because they're so eager to sell us out.
You know, it's pretty much equal distribution between male and female politicians.
All of them seem to be prostitutes.
But, you know, that leads me to my next question, right?
For a hundred years, the Chinese have been planning this.
We're supposed to have an incredible intelligence community.
We're supposed to have incredible, like, intellectuals in our community.
And yet... Nobody saw this coming.
It took Henry Kissinger up to like just 15, 16, 17 years ago to realize what was happening.
I mean, what's going on there that for 100 years they've been on this marathon, yet we're just starting to realize, frankly, when the shit's hit the fan already.
Well, great question.
Henry Kissinger is very much on the side.
He has sold us out. He's been part of the sellout to China all along.
And I won't deny that I was part of the...
I was part of let's build a better world with the Chinese.
I feel terribly betrayed by people that...
Of course it's not the people, but I thought the mission was, let's try to bring something to the party.
I feel like you bring somebody to the party and imagine if you invited someone to the party and some guy shows up and acts like a jerk.
Well, America sort of brought to the world sage China.
Which was still stuck in the 18th century.
And did everything for the last 40 years.
Teach them, transfer.
Teach them how to run companies.
How to run an insurance company.
How to set up a factory.
All kinds of things. All this knowledge transfer.
We thought we were helping this great old civilization stand up.
And it turns out all along their idea was how do we pull the rug out of these guys.
So anyway, I feel bad about that.
But how did they miss it?
It's very deep. That's a good question.
It was very subtle what the Chinese did.
It's funny because we spend $800 billion a year or something on defense and intelligence and all these things.
We don't see this. I was in China the first week of June 1983.
I got there a week earlier than the other round eyes.
I remember an article It's called, on the subject of Jingshan Wuran, spiritual pollution, and the Renmin Zhirpao, People's Daily.
And it was on the subject of these Westerners are going to start showing up, and they bring spiritual pollution.
The goal is to stay humble and meek, make them think that we do not, you know, are way behind, but we're going to study and learn and steal everything we can, and the day will come when we...
Overthrow them. So I've kind of always wondered that the sanguine attitude with which Western corporations just shared everything they could with China.
But I'd say what the Chinese did, that's a very deep question.
Do you want an answer to it? I love the answers to deep questions, so please, yeah.
Okay, well, the real question, how did they get away with this, is fascinating.
There's a way to speak in Chinese that is very...
There are parables in Chinese, and each parable is represented by a four-sentence, four-word phrase.
And at a certain point, once you can speak Chinese to a certain level, people start working these phrases in.
And each phrase represents a whole story, a whole parable with all this lesson.
There's a book called the 36 Stratagems of the Warring States Period.
So first of all, let me say, once you can speak, I think I need to give you an example.
I'll give you one example. Do we have time?
No, we have all the time that you have, sir.
I know that people, I sometimes death rap.
I don't know. I wish other people would show me how to, they can edit this and shorten this down.
No, we try to, you know, with blood money, we try to go as long as it's necessary.
We really want people to understand these issues.
We really want to understand the details of these issues because we're in this mess right now because we missed a lot of details.
Well, then I'll share some details you may find.
Fascinating. So when you speak in this way in Chinese, let me give you an example of one of these parables.
There's a parable about an old man who had to leave.
Every time he left his home and walked to the village, he had to walk around this mountain.
He got tired of that, so when an old man, he went up and he started carrying rocks down from the mountain and dropping them in the sea.
And his children come, and his children's children came, and they all started working doing this in all their spare time.
And one day, a city slicker came by and said, hey, old man, you are a fool.
How do you think you could tear that mountain down?
And the old man says...
You're the fool. As long as I'm carrying stones and my sons carry stones and their children carry stones and so on and so forth, doesn't the mountain eventually have to come down?
So, the old man moves mountain.
So, for example, if I'm the way that would be used in conversation, suppose I'm synonymous friendly with the guards at the university.
My Chinese university. They'd say to me in Chinese, these old men, veterans and stuff, they'd say, how are your Chinese studies going?
And I'd say, well, it's really difficult.
Old Han is very difficult, comrade, because of this, and there's so many characters to learn.
And the guy would say, Old man moves mountain.
And by saying that, he just means like, well, if you stick to it, if you just keep doing it, it will get easier.
So that's just a way to communicate.
Now, with that background, an educated person, most people know a couple dozen, an educated person knows a couple hundred of these little parables.
But people can communicate if they're very educated and know these parables.
They can communicate with just like, you know, old man moves mountain.
Yes, but Princess Yu hides the jade.
Yes, but the tiger, you know, you can't follow.
If you miss one, you can't follow.
But it's this very obscure way of communicating.
But what the Chinese did, and this is such genius, Everything I'm telling you about their plan to take us over and destroy us is in their national security communication.
But it was hidden by this manner of speaking.
And the only people who could understand it were people who were familiar with a certain book from ancient China called The 36 Strategies of the Warring States Period.
And the warring, it's after 350 years of these kingdoms fighting each other, China finally unified under one king, the Yellow Emperor, Kuang Di.
And a book was written that was supposed to sort of capture all the lessons that had been learned.
It's called The 36 Strategies of the Warring States Period.
Well, there are these 36 sayings that just reflect certain Certain of the events from that.
Well, in their national security literature, you can read it all in Chinese, and you understand it at one level.
And there are these occasional references that no Westerner practically would understand, would cap.
But it was only when they figured out this and they went back and looked, they discovered, oh, understood it that way, including with the...
They are fairly openly communicating about their plans.
They just thought no American would ever get to the point they'd be able to understand these parables enough.
So Michael Hillsbury is one of the...
You asked how did they miss it?
They missed it because the Chinese buried it in plain sight.
They put it in their... In their national security communications and their magazines and literature, it's been in the open, but it's just been hidden through this kind of very strange way of speaking.
It's really been a fascinating thing.
Well, I totally understand what you're saying.
I mean, to give a really simplistic kind of example of it, when you're talking about the old man moving mountains, you could say that in terms of what's going to happen in America.
Because if you chip away for hundreds of years, if you got a hundred year marathon, if you got the patience to wait centuries, you can achieve whatever you put in place as a plan.
Right. And they...
And they didn't do it by chipping away.
They did it by they studied, studied, studied.
Yes, there's the cultural infiltration, there's the Confucian Institutes, there's this and that.
But they also studied the election system, and they realized that our election system is an extraordinary vulnerability.
It's sloppy as hell.
People are just talking through their hat when they say it's got integrity.
It has no integrity. Anyone who's even paying any attention at all to these cases that are going around the country, isn't it amazing what is surfacing, how slipshod this system is?
Are you following what's come out in Arizona, for example?
Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's ridiculous.
I mean, one of the things that to me feels like a smoking gun is a computer, a software engineer, explain how the election software necessary to count votes is the simplest piece of software that like a first year programmer could write. And the fact that it has been made so complex, so many algorithms and that sort of thing is in essence, showing that they're intentionally complicating it. And that's what opens the door to fraud. I
mean, would you say that's accurate?
Yes. Yes. Yes.
Yeah, it's all fraud. I stand by everything I said.
We're gonna get them.
These guys hit us with a blitzkrieg.
They tied it well, but we're gonna win the war.
You know what's hilarious?
I just want to point this out.
I read your bio, the bio that you use, right?
And then I read your Wikipedia bio.
And the hilarious thing about it is that they're saying the exact same thing.
But you are proudly saying, I believe our elections are getting stolen.
I believe that there's election fraud.
And on the Wikipedia page, you're talking about how you're a conspiracy theorist, again, using that word to basically disempower the message that you've put forward.
But it's just interesting that we're at a point now where we're basically saying the exact same thing.
It's just we're saying on our end that this is a conspiracy truth, not a conspiracy theory.
Correct. Correct. And you know what?
According to Rasmussen, 74% of Americans see it my way.
So, you know, at about 10% or 11% see it their way.
About 15% can't make up their mind.
So I just wonder, I want to ask those people, How low does their 11% have to go before they're the extremists and we're the normals?
Is there some number that that dropped below where they acknowledge they're the extremists?
We get down to 0.1%.
Are they the extremists?
Is there any number? Yeah.
You know, it's kind of funny.
We're at 74% and we're the extremists.
It's crazy. It's crazy.
You know, I have a question about the American people.
What have you learned about the American people in this last few years?
I would like you, if you are, you know, so inclined, to tell me what have you learned about the American people that has been hopeful, encouraging, and good, right?
And is there anything that you've learned that you would say, you know what, this is something that we have to work on fixing?
So the good and bad.
Vim, I so enjoy your questions.
I'll come on your show anytime.
Thank you. I appreciate it. The things I think about all the time.
Well, there has been positive and negative things I've learned.
A positive thing...
Well...
I, this is a delicate thing to talk about because I, I understand this.
So there's this concept of, and I don't want to be all religious, but we don't want to go into religion.
But there's the, but do you mind if I, if I hit that question, I'm going to talk a little bit about religion in the U.S. If that's okay.
Please, please. Yes. That's great.
So people ask me about this thing, Christian nationalism, Christian nationalism.
When they asked me about it on, like, Vice TV in an interview, I said, Phil, I really don't know what, like, I know there are nationalists, and I know there are Christians involved in this, but I don't know what Christian nationalism means.
It's not like anyone's here saying, like, we think that the country has to be Christian, that you have to be Judeo-Christian or anything like that.
You know, there are people who say, look, I'm a PhD in philosophy.
I can tell you the intellectual history of our Constitution.
And, you know, I view it in terms of Jerusalem, Athens, Rome, England or Britain and the Netherlands leading to the U.S. Constitution.
It's an intellectual tradition.
You can also see it as certainly Judeo-Christianity is wound around it.
Islam for, say, part of the period, not for all.
Anyway, you can tell it that way.
But my answer to Vice was none of that.
That sounds like boogeyman stuff.
Like nobody's saying that.
Well, I stand corrected because I have learned that there actually are people on our side who are like that.
So that's been a bit of a disappointment, and I'm clear that that's not the camp I'm in.
I've come to call myself a Frederick Douglass Republican.
It's the people who believe in the foundational principles of the Declaration of the Constitution.
The shortest way to say that is Frederick Douglass Republican.
I have found that the good thing is there's a lot of Americans who, they don't know what they believe, but they believe that.
It's in their DNA, and it's brought them out, and they believe that.
I have to give the Christian...
Other than that, I'm not with that side that believes in the...
I didn't even know there were people who believed that, but now I understand.
There are very types of people who believe that.
I think it's boogeyman to point too much attention to it.
But what they need to understand is what this is about is this is a movement for anyone who accepts those principles.
Gay, straight, Christian, not, white, black, whatever.
It's all about that set of principles.
And seeing people come together on that, and the great credit, what's going to go down in history about the Let's say the Christian community in the last few years is they were the ones who didn't back down.
There were 80 million people who thought they were going to be fed into FEMA camps.
To be honest, they reached out to me and asked me to help get this movement ablaze.
They thought they were going to be fed into FEMA camps.
I think that they probably would have been.
And I think that they, and we have stopped this revolution, at least for now.
And what's going to go down in history is they didn't forget the principles.
They did not bend while the rest of America, while three quarters of America had tucked their tail and let this happen.
At least that community stood their ground.
Now it's become a groundswell.
So that's one set of...
Discoveries, good and bad, both about, I'm sort of disappointed to find out if there's anyone on my side who is what, that there are people who believe this sort of anything, I have nothing to do with anything white, identitarian, or anything.
But anyway, the other thing, as I've learned, is you cannot count on the rich.
But you can count on the poor to some degree.
The rich, you can't believe how the billionaire crowd was terrified in the early months of 2021.
You can't believe the billionaires and mega billionaires reaching out and pleading that there be a movement that, you know, holy cow, this is the end of America.
I can't think of my grandchildren growing up in a place like this, Mr.
Byrne. This is going to be like Venezuela, this and that, this and that.
Oh my god, the fear that these people have.
You know how much they have helped?
You know how much they have helped?
Bubkis. Bubkis, yeah.
You know what Bubkis is?
He's zero. Yeah, it's Yiddish.
It's just bubkis.
You know who's come through?
The masses. The masses.
As people chipping in five bucks, ten bucks.
People skipping.
Poor people who are afraid.
They know they're going to be fed into FEMA camp.
Who are afraid for their lives.
They're the only ones who acted.
The rich are so pussified.
Everyone was afraid that if they gave money, what if the IRS looks into it?
They're not going to get audited. They are such cowards.
I used to want to scream at these billionaires that you have no idea what the future looks like for you if we don't jujitsu this coup.
You have no idea what the future looks like.
And it's not 2040.
It's not 2030.
And I'm sitting there talking to these idiots, people telling me how many billions they have and who were begging, begging For a way to help, but then they really were just, they would get advice, just better not write the check to the America Project, because it's so controversial.
Election integrity. So what I've learned is what wussies they are, but that the American public, especially women, it's all kind, the real mama bearers have been the savior.
The mama bearers who have said, I've known so many, met so many women, especially in the South since it started, saying, look, I'm Before I let my children grow up in a socialist country, and they refused to buckle.
So these are the kind of discoveries I've made about Americans.
I just love it.
Boy, what a waste of time it's been to try to seduce or get any help from billionaires who were terrified, who came to me, who came to me.
They cannot, you know, they're so grateful they're crying, and they can't bring themselves to write a check because it might be controversial.
By writing that check, they might be targeted and they don't want to do that, even though it means saving the country, even though there's people on the streets.
We saw Mickey, Ashley Babbitt's mom, every day out at these vigils.
You know, she's shoestringing it to make a point because she's trying to save her country.
She's trying to keep the memory of her daughter alive.
But it's sad that our billionaires really haven't done much.
You know, as far as the future of this country, are you hopeful that, I mean, are we looking at a brighter future?
Are we looking at an America 2.0 that's going to fix the issues of America 1.0?
I mean, what do you think is coming down the pipeline for the next day?
I think it's absolutely an issue for a big fix.
I think we can do a big fix, fix everything, and it's time for the big adjustment.
I think there is a collapse coming.
There's two ways out of it.
The left wants there to be a collapse, and they take control, emerge out of the rubble with some authoritarian country.
There's a way to do just the opposite, to emerge cleaned up of the problems and as the USA again.
And actually, it would be...
It's quite doable.
It's quite doable. It's not going to be done by this set of knuckleheads.
I'm not even sure they want to try.
I think they may be trying to make it bad.
I fear that they're going to cause a financial collapse or a food collapse.
Anything that lets them get out of an election.
Knowing that something like that might be coming down the pipeline, how do we prepare for the positive outcome once a calamity like that strikes?
Well, for one thing, you need to have at least two weeks of food stored in your home.
Ideally, you get up to three months.
You can go online and buy a pack for $200.
It comes, it's like three months of food for a family of four.
You want to have that. You want to have a rally point for your family outside of any cities, 150 miles from any city.
Pick now that cousin you have in Dubuque, Iowa, that you all agree you're going to get there if there were some kind of collapse.
I think you ought to have $500 to $1,000 in cash that you turn into silver coins.
Just get silver coins, $20 an ounce, $25 an ounce.
You want to keep those on you if the banking system goes down.
One day, silver will be acceptable.
So we get silver coins, silver, and only 500 bucks, but that's going to be valuable.
And I mean, I know that's a lot to ask for people, but you want to get something in silver.
You want to be able to make yourself, for like two weeks, you could sit in your home with your family and be safe.
But you really want, there is no, if things went really bad, there'd be no long-term survival plan in the city.
You've got to have a place you can go in the country.
Wow, wow. So what do you think about the digital currency and the onset of that and how that's going to potentially drive us into the slavery system?
And if you believe that that is one of the issues, is silver and gold the way to circumvent that?
Silver and gold is a way to circumvent that.
I'll tell you something funny about the history of central bank digital currencies.
You know who invented central bank digital currencies?
I do not. It's going to strike you as funny.
Google my name and the word Barbados and maybe the word B-I-T-T. You'll discover that you're talking to the inventor of central bank digital currencies.
Wow. Six years ago, I did the first one in the world in Barbados in the Eastern Caribbean.
The country's gone on and done it in the company's done it in Nigeria now.
However, the way I architected it was pro-liberty and in a way that did not privilege the government.
Everybody had to follow the rules, including the government, and there was no problem of authoritarianism.
I actually gave a talk at the United States Treasury about Six years ago, where I laid out what I was doing versus what China was doing.
And China was doing central bank digital currency, and they were doing a Thor Terran version.
And they asked me what that meant.
And I remember saying that, well, a Thor Terran version would be one where you get to say, your money counts and your money counts and your money counts.
But, mister, you tweeted something nice about the Dalai Lama, so your money doesn't count.
Well, usually that gets a laugh.
And I'll never forget the people at the Treasury kind of looked at each other weird when I said that.
And I thought, gee, either I just gave them an idea I shouldn't have given them or they figured that out and I guessed it.
But I gave a talk in the United States Treasury about central bank digital currency six years ago.
I'm afraid what they're going to do is introduce one that is the Chinese authoritarian version rather than my version.
Yeah, I mean, but how do we overcome that?
What happens if the whole economy falls apart, food shortages, they say your money's not worth anything.
And then two weeks later, they say, well, you could change your money to this digital currency and then it'll be valued at something.
What does one do now?
Or is that too late?
Is it now's the time to prepare, get some of that money out, get some silver and gold?
I have all my wealth in silver and gold and Bitcoin.
I keep as little as any fiat as possible.
Silver and gold. Okay?
That's how you...
That's the thing you want to...
If you're talking about evading them, silver and gold.
If you're talking about a store of value that they can't seize from you, silver and gold also accomplishes that.
And silver... Yeah, so really getting into silver and gold coins now is the time, I guess, is what...
Yeah. And we've talked about like these small value silver coins, like the 1962 quarters and that sort of thing that would come in very handy if there was a full collapse, right?
Because you could still exchange for food and that sort of thing and stay out of the digital currency system.
I don't go for anything with numismatic value.
I'm going for just the things.
It's a quarter ounce of silver is what you're paying for.
It's not a coin from 1962.
It's a coin just minted to be a quarter ounce of silver.
Or a half ounce of silver.
Or you can even get these bars that are like a Hershey chocolate bar, but each rectangle you break off is one gram or something like that.
So you go in the direction.
Do not get anything where you're investing in the numismatic value of a coin.
Yeah, yeah. Very cool, very cool.
Patrick, this has been awesome.
It's really great having you on our Blood Money podcast.
In closing, is there anything that we didn't talk about that you'd want to mention, talk about for the viewers?
I'd say this is one of the more intelligent set of questions I've had in a long time, Ben.
I hope I get another invitation to be on your show.
Of course you will, sir.
Of course you will. We're big fans and we deeply admire you.
I mean, you know, you've definitely taken a lot of hits for the, you know, for the price of freedom.
And you are definitely, you know, one of the heroes out there that's stood on the front lines and made sure that at least you're informing people on what the road ahead is and how we could protect our freedom and, in fact, you know, recapture our freedom.
So thank you so much, Patrick.
Really appreciate you coming on our show and look forward to having you back on again.
My pleasure, sir. Thank you.
And for the viewers out there, thank you for showing up to this Blood Money podcast.
Sorry my camera is tweaking out.
It happens once in a while, but at least my voice is working here.
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