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Sept. 30, 2023 - Blood Money
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Blood Money Episode 71 - The Victims of Connie Reguli Speak Out
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The Victims of Connie Reguli Speak Out.
This episode will be hosting multiple victims of the attorney Connie Reguli, who will be talking about what Connie did to their lives, how their lives were damaged and destroyed by Connie, and what kind of illegal, unlawful, and or unethical behavior they experienced through Connie Reguli.
Alright, we're on the latest episode of Blood Money, and today we have a very special episode.
As some of the viewers are aware, for episode 59, we did an expose on Connie Reguli, an attorney in Tennessee, who is being accused of essentially railroading a gentleman by the name of John David Cunningham Into false charges.
And this gentleman is now facing up to 250 years in jail for crimes that we believe he did not commit, for crimes that I personally believe, based upon what I revealed on episode 59, that this was all orchestrated by Connie.
And what we have today is we have various individuals who, you know, frankly, the episode is titled Victims of Connie regularly.
And we're going to talk about Connie.
We're going to meet these individuals and talk about what kind of an effect Connie has had upon their lives.
So I'm just going to start, you know, clockwise, have you guys introduce yourself, give a little bit of a brief, you know, don't give us too much information for the time being, but a little bit of brief on why you're here and what you'd like to speak about.
So let's start with April.
Hi, I'm April. Well, actually, I've just remarried.
But I have four children, two adult children, two children who were in the divorce situation.
And I'm here today to just speak on how Connie has just destroyed our family, my children's lives.
They're with the abuser of the family and why...
Why he has them and so forth, instead of myself, and how Connie and her team were a part of that.
Wow, wow. Okay. Mr.
Elliott Cunningham. Well, I'm John David Cunningham's dad, and as you know, in episode 59, I did the interview Yeah, no problem. I mean, this is what we have to do.
Otherwise, people get away with bloody murder nowadays.
Randy! Yeah, Randy Davis here, the watchman.
My involvement with Connie was that I met Connie at a rally down in Georgia for Senator Nancy Schaefer's memorial.
And that was the first time I'd ever met her in real life.
I had dealt with her and she had always been pleasant.
She had been nice. She seemingly knew what she was talking about and having fought with the family court system, DSS, everything throughout a hard case that I won and doing it pro se, I thought it was a good thing with her family forward.
And all of her different groups she had going in order to help people.
And what I later found out, because we would go out and not only expose what was going on within the court system, we would also To go out and expose people who were exploiting the victims of the court system.
And all of a sudden, Connie, when we came to realize that everything wasn't really good about Connie, then she came to attack and they have been endless.
And she sends her minions.
I don't have a personal dog in the fight with family court anymore.
It's just been the people that we try to help that she will actually send.
And the things that we found out and who she supports is going to be amazing for most people.
I don't think they really know what's really happening with Khan.
Wow, wow. Okay. Mary.
Well, I'm Mary Catherine Cunningham and I'm John David Cunningham's mother and we're just we're pretty devastated at what Connie has seemingly driven through as a silver bullet divorce.
She's just She's been very, very vindictive.
She's had her people, like, hassle us over the years.
This has been going on for four years now.
You know, it's just amazing.
And she's kept us from our children, our grandchildren, for over two years.
not to mention what she's done, what she's helped to happen to our son.
I just, I've never actually experienced anyone like her.
It's very, very interesting because when you experience this kind of stuff, you have to believe that there's something else underneath it.
There's more. There's more to it than just what we're seeing on the surface.
And she promotes herself as a good person.
She promotes herself as someone who wants to keep families together.
But obviously that's not the truth because she's torn apart her own family in the worst kind of way.
Yeah. Yeah. Michelle.
Hi, I'm Michelle.
I have two grown sons that are now 27 and almost 25.
It's been a long time.
It was about 11 years ago.
This woman nearly destroyed me and she destroyed my family well after my husband and I had been divorced for several years.
He wanted to pay less child support, and so he found, I guess, the worst person he could find.
And in the meantime, I guess he and Connie concocted, and my son, who was struggling with some issues, my oldest son, who at the time was getting ready to turn 16, used whatever teen things he was going through to their advantage to create parental alienation.
She made lies up about me, so my son didn't speak to me for over two years.
My youngest son, he was smart enough to see through it at the time, and he had nothing to do with it, but she was trying to take him behind my back, get my ex-husband to take him behind my back when we were in the middle of court proceedings and go see these therapists that she knew, who I guess they have their Yeah.
Which, by the way, sorry to pause you there, but that's a big technique that I'm just going to be very brutal, by the way, that scumbag attorneys like Connie use all the time.
I've heard this throughout family court where they always have their person.
And we saw with this particular case how she forced her person onto the case of John David Regardless of the court saying, we don't want your person, it's clear that they have a long history, it's clear that there's bias, and yet you have these judges completely ignoring these violations of due process and letting scumbags like Connie,
which, this episode's about Connie, but this episode's also about the scumbag judges and the DAs that know they're violating the law, that know they're violating due process, and yet they get away with it, and there seems to be no comeuppance for these individuals, which is very sad, but, you know, please resume.
Okay, so, and the way I was alerted to that is my ex-husband had had our boys for his visitation.
My youngest son had a little Firefly cell phone.
He whispered and called me and said, Mom, Dad is going to go see this therapist.
Luckily, my attorney answered when I called and he called Connie and said, Stand down.
You do not do that. You do not do that.
But my older boy, who was having some depression issues and some substance issues, and I had rules at my house, whereas my ex-husband was, like, not having rules.
I was, you know, the bad mom, this, that, and the other.
I mean, the lies, there were several lies that were created throughout this process.
Every time I turned around, she was trying to get me for contempt of something.
Wanting to throw me in jail.
Making up stories, such as I was sending my children to school and telling them, when they were telling me we don't have lunch money on our lunch account, and that I was telling them, I guess you won't eat today if your dad didn't pay for it.
Never happened. Never happened.
My children never went to school at any time when they didn't have lunch money, or lunch, nor would I. Just trying to create things to make money.
Sorry, sorry, sorry. Michelle, one sec.
You cut out for a second. Do you mind repeating what you just said?
You said trying to create things, trying to create false things about you?
I was trying to create false things about me and for over two years, that didn't include the years that my son didn't speak to me.
The prom I missed is Thanksgiving.
All these things, instead of trying to Michelle, sorry to interrupt you, but you're cutting out quite a bit.
It's very hard to hear you.
Is there any way, do you mind, is there any way we go to the next person and if there's a way for you to also have Wi-Fi on your phone, because I feel like your cellular signal is cutting out, you know?
Okay. Yeah. Sorry.
All right. I know where she was going with that.
I wish we could have heard the rest of the story because it sounds like classic techniques by Connie.
Why don't we now go to April if you want to tell your story about how Connie affected your life.
Oh, wow. There's just so many.
They caused a mistrial in my divorce and I had like 104 reasons why I needed a new trial and at least like 90 of them out of the 104 were all because of Connie and her team.
Megan Miller was the primary lawyer in my case, but Connie oversaw everything and directed Megan on what to do.
And Connie was there at Tom's too, talking to me and so forth.
So I hired Connie's law firm because they do a pleasure of things in regards to abusive family situations.
And Connie being like a criminal lawyer As well, and so forth.
So I wanted to file criminal charges on my ex-husband for raping me, for beating my children, my sons predominantly, and so forth, and all the abuse.
It's just they didn't back me up when I was accused of lies.
Like Michelle, she was actually attacked by Connie being accused of things.
I was attacked by a bunch of lies being accused towards me on the other side.
And Connie and Megan, their team did not do anything to prove to the court that the lies were false.
And granted, what's horrible in family court is you don't have to prove anything.
If it looks good and sounds good, then that's what they go with.
And so if your lawyer doesn't turn around and back you up and tell the truth, you're stuck.
And I was alienated from the family assets and so forth as well.
They made out that I was lucky to be able to live in the house while the divorce was going on.
I was the stay-at-home mom for 12 years.
I homeschooled the children.
The children were my life.
So it was very hard for me.
When they turned around and immediately gave him 50-50 custody at the Pedente Light hearing after he had just beaten our son, black and blue, four months before that and threatened to kill him half a dozen times in that time frame as well.
And by the way, question, is there evidence that this actually happened?
That there was actual threats upon your children?
My son flat out told me.
I was there for the first one, but then I wasn't there when he did it multiple times after that.
And my son informed me the day before I filed for divorce.
I was there for when he beat my son black and blue.
I did take pictures.
Those pictures disappeared.
I took the pictures with the phone that my ex-husband at the time had provided to me, which was everything was on his iCloud.
So it was a very scary situation.
I had been living in fear all those years.
I continue to live in fear.
I'm in a protection program right now.
And I should have been put in that protection program back when I filed for divorce.
I should have been told about it.
I should have been set up. So you're in a protection program because your life was under threat, but nonetheless, you lost custody of your children at the same time to the abuser?
I lost custody of, yes, because I wasn't in the protection program that I'm in right now until a year ago.
There was a protection order placed on him when I filed for divorce for me and the children due to the abuse.
The children were not allowed to speak in court at all.
They were not allowed to testify.
And my oldest son, who was allowed to testify, was not allowed to testify on any abuse that was done to him.
How come? I don't understand. How come he's not allowed to testify when it's such a key topic?
Anytime it was brought up, they wanted to push it aside.
Connie's lawyer, Megan, who was doing the questioning, kept asking the questions incorrectly.
They kept stating that she was leading the witness.
And so she just kept asking the questions in the same form, which allowed them to discredit or push the questions aside because she was leading him.
So, you know, being that they portray themselves as the best lawyers in the state for families in abusive situations, you would expect them to know how to ask questions properly.
Now, what was the effect on your children, the alienation?
Have you reconnected with them?
What was the long-term effects of all this kind of stuff that happened in family court under Connie?
My children, oh goodness, my youngest daughter, she's now 11.
She was five when this happened.
I was their life.
So like he was gone for like two weeks completely before they even asked where he was and what was going on.
So that's kind of strange for a father who's in your home all the time and two weeks of being gone, the children haven't even asked where he is or, you know, why is daddy not around?
So right now, let me get this to you.
Right now, you don't see your children at all?
Oh no, I see my children.
Granted, I have not seen my children since like March 15th, and I won't see them again until April 6th.
So you're seeing them very periodically?
Yes. This year, I'll be lucky to have my children a hundred days.
Okay, so question, are you, I mean, have you been found to have been abusive, substance abuse?
Is there any, like, reason why you should be seeing your children in such a limited fashion?
At the very get-go, before the Pedente Light hearing, he claimed, okay, so they said that they put a private investigator out on me, but now they're trying to say there was no private investigator put on me.
So if that's the case, then he was breaking his protection order by following me around.
And the thing is that somebody followed me taking my children to school, and I was going to Al-Anon for two years because he had all the personality traits of an alcoholic.
And he used to be a drug addict.
And then he was drinking, come to find out at the house.
I don't know how much.
I don't know how often, but he had his own stash.
Did you have any tissue problems?
No, I did not.
I drank maybe a couple glasses of wine a year.
But anyways, I was going to Al-Anon for two years and I pulled into this empty parking lot and the person took a picture of me pulling in that parking lot, turned around and sent a letter and the picture to the judge stating that I'm an alcoholic and drug addict because I go to AA. And nobody, none of my lawyers ever turned around and said, no, she's going to Al-Anon.
She's been doing that. She's the public relations person.
How is a picture of that even evidence of that?
How does that even fly in court?
Because it was the picture of the Al-Anon building where also AA meets.
I mean, that's not evidence, though.
Like, I parked my car at McDonald's, doesn't mean I necessarily ate at McDonald's.
I mean, it's just ridiculous that that's even being held up as evidence.
Oh, absolutely.
That's the thing, though, is that in family court, nothing has to be proven.
As long as it sounds good, it goes.
This is why people like Connie get away with bloody murder destroying lives.
Now, Michelle, you were getting cut out earlier.
You were saying that your children were alien.
Could you hear me? You can't hear me, or you can hear me.
I hear you, but I think I'm breaking up.
You're okay right now, actually.
While it's okay, let me ask you.
You're talking about your children being alienated.
Now, once, right now, what is the status quo?
Have you reconnected with your children?
Is there being damage to the children?
It was just my one oldest son.
Well, what happened was within three months, what I was trying to say is instead of Connie trying to help families like she's supposed to do, she proceeded to continue to lie and it just destroyed us.
My oldest son ended up getting worse.
Within three months, my ex-husband was sending him off somewhere for issues.
And for years, he had issues.
He's thriving. He's 27 now.
But, and we didn't speak for two and a half years, but I missed out on a lot of things.
Holiday, school events.
I mean, there was a time I got my son's phone when he wasn't looking when he was at my house and his dad had texted him, play ball.
Like, basically, you know, these were the, and he had taken my son to meet with Connie without me knowing.
And ask my son, who was 15 at the time, who do you want to live with?
I mean, these are things that I would have never dreamt of doing, even to my ex-husband.
I've always thought children need both parents, in my opinion.
And something like Connie should know that.
There's plenty of studies, but people like Connie, what they do is they resort to these therapists that base their conclusions on opinions as opposed to historically what has been good within the animal kingdom.
There's literally... You know, hundreds of thousands of years of history of what happens in the animal kingdom, how children of animals thrive.
And it's very clear that both parents are the way to go, but yet because these battles have been monetized, it's gamified, people like Connie seem to forget that, and they don't seem to really care.
I mean, they're out there saying that they're the good people, good guys, and it seems like nothing could be really, you know, further from the truth.
You're talking about children being destroyed.
Can you still hear me okay?
Yes, I can, yeah. Okay, she also, so over time, so I did not speak to my son.
I mean, I literally cried every day for two and a half years, and then it created a strain between His brother and he, for years, because my son that chose not to go that direction and still see his dad on his visitation, still be with me when he was supposed to, it created hostility, you know, for him towards his dad and his brother.
And it's forever, even to this day, their relationship is strange because of what happened.
He's like, Mom, I watched you cry every day for two and a half years.
I don't understand why you would even want to have anything to do.
And I'm like, you'll understand when you're a parent.
It has created a lifelong so far.
It almost wrecked my marriage.
I'm remarried and have a son as well.
He's now 14. At the time, he was probably three.
But it just about destroyed that marriage.
The emotional, the financial, the family.
I mean, it was just really, really tough.
But, you know, I was left out of getting report cards.
I was left out of knowing if my son...
I mean, there's so much more to it that there's not even enough time.
But what happened is, for years I was scared to ever say anything because she instills fear.
She says, I'll sue you, all this, all that.
Which, by the way, I want to make a point on that topic because the minute we put out episode 59, we got a lot of messages, oh, Connie's going to sue you, blah, blah, blah, right?
And here's the thing.
We put out there a message saying that she's a criminal, she's a fraudster, and she's a destroyer of lives, right?
Mm-hmm. What I want the viewer to know is that, sure, she could come and sue me.
She could say, you know, Vem's defaming me, right?
She has to take me to court. I have to prove that she is a criminal, a fraudster, a destroyer of lives.
That means depositions and subpoenas.
She is going to prove that she's not.
And this is now in a court that's not in her home state.
And by the way, we've gotten messages from people claiming that she had a prior relationship with the DA that was ultimately trying John David's case.
And we haven't verified that, but that's her home court.
Now, what happens once she leaves her home court?
People need to think in this fashion because once you start thinking that you have powers yourself, the fear kind of dissipates.
The fear kind of dissipates because all she has is her bullying, right?
What happens when you start going to court and doing subpoenas and depositions and trying to prove that she is indeed what you are stating she is?
So anyway, I just want to put that out there because part of this is like we can't be scared of people like Connie.
That's why they bowl us over, you know, and there was a few people that told us they don't want to come on this, you know, on this podcast because they're worried about Connie.
We're letting people like Connie get away with bloody murder by not having the courage to stand up to her.
And that's just my message to the viewers out there.
But anyway. Well, it's hard in Tennessee.
Sorry. I was going to say, it's hard in Tennessee because they require us to provide a We're good to go.
Talk at the hearing.
So I lost my case because I couldn't get one.
Well, I mean, there's a big conversation there about the cancer of the bar and how they swear an oath to each other as opposed to an oath to uphold the law.
But that's another maybe for another day, you know?
Well, you know, I want to say because I don't have a lot of time on here quickly.
She scared me.
I was worried. I was worried about my other children, their mental health, their mental well-being, that it took my attorney saying to me, you know, they're sinking this ship.
I mean, I was in danger of losing my other children who were healthy and happy and a husband who was supportive.
And I signed, it got to be so much, I mean, it was the worst thing I've ever been through ever in my life that I signed my parental rights away when he was 16.
Oh, wow. I found that he came back around when he was 18, and he and his father now, I mean, they've gone and not spoken for years.
My other son hasn't spoken to his father in years.
So what I want to say is, eventually, these children grow up, and you may miss out on a lot, but they figure it out, hopefully sooner than later.
They figure it out. And the fear that I had about speaking out with Connie lasted for a long time.
But when I saw the Cunningham story that I knew nothing about, I said, I'm tired of being quiet.
Good for you.
I'm tired of being quiet.
I reached out to the Cunninghams.
I told them my story, which is nothing compared to theirs.
And I have gotten to love this family.
I do not believe that John David did this.
You can't look at these videos of these children running to their dad and hugging on it.
This is not somebody who has molested their child.
You know, could I make a point there?
Could I make a quick point? Because the minute we put up that episode 59, Connie actually went on the message board, and I'm going to kind of give you a chronological series of things that she did that to me make it really obvious that she's full of shit, right?
So she goes on there, she says, Elliot Cunningham's lying.
You should call me, interview me to hear the truth, right?
So I tell her, yeah, good. You know, we'll do a live, come right on the blood money.
The mic is yours, right?
Right. Then she starts saying things like, well, John David, and basically starts saying things like, John David is like a womanizer, and this and that, and he yelled at my daughter this one time, and blah, blah, blah, right?
What I find very unusual about this, and sorry to be graphic, but if a 30-something-year-old man rapes a six-year-old, this is the narrative that they're saying, that this man stuck his penis in a six-year-old's vagina eight times, sorry to be graphic, right?
If that happened, just the thought of me saying that is making my blood boil because that is one of the most heinous crimes ever, right?
So if I'm sitting there being like my granddaughter or my daughter, and by the way, the daughter also posted something, and again, very weird posting because If my daughter was raped, if my granddaughter was raped by a 35-something-year-old man, I'd be irate and I'd make it very clear that I'm irate.
It would be the top topic of conversation.
Not that, oh, John David Cunningham has Instagram pictures with models and stuff.
That wouldn't be the first thing I'd talk about.
So anyway, her inner very obvious that that's not the top-line issue for them.
And that, to me, is just completely obvious that they're completely full of shit.
But anyway. So I met them, I started going, when I found out about what, so I started posting about her, she was in the paper quite a bit about what she had, what she should have had her license taken away years ago.
It's infuriating that she's gotten away with so much and now we're looking at an innocent man who's facing going to prison.
But I got to know the Cunninghams.
I attended with the Cunninghams every single day, her trial in Williamson County, where she was found guilty.
She had her bullies there.
She went so far as to take pictures of me in the courtroom and post them to try to incite violence on me on social media, which was fine.
And then she started messaging me, trying to play nice at first, wanting to talk, saying she didn't know who I was.
Which, by the way, is the exact same way she approaches.
She first comes to us and she starts threatening to show the videos to the judge.
Then she wants to have a conversation.
It's just the games and the psychology of it.
She's psychotic. She's psychotic.
But I'll tell you, the victims here are our children, all of our children.
And even I sat in that courtroom and watched one of her daughters get up and testify on her behalf.
I had never seen her children or heard them.
They are so, and I'm sorry, but I'm going to be honest, they are so backwards and so messed up.
I don't even know if these, I mean, I don't know if they've been locked in a basement their whole life, but it is amazing to me that someone who is of such stature as Connie proclaims to be this big attorney and all, that her children are not well-spoken, they seem very uneducated, they seem very immature, And it's, her children are victims.
Vicka, the sister, the brother, she is creating and now the grandchildren of the Cunninghams, it is a vicious cycle that this woman is creating and shame on this judge.
We're talking about dozens, if not hundreds, of children's lives affected forever because of the crimes of Connie.
Because of the crimes of Connie.
And by the way, we already have evidence that her daughter has substance abuse problems.
That's correct, right? So we know Vicka has, and she's been arrested for DUI. Is there any other information we know about her children and kind of their status in terms of substance or other issues?
Anyone? I'd like to share something that I think might help.
Okay, yeah definitely. Joanne, so if you want to give us a quick introduction because we haven't met you yet of who you are and how you're involved in all this.
I'm in here because Ayana told me to come here.
She's interested in, Ayana is interested in a story about grandparents being alienated and we're also filing for visitation because the same things are happening to us that are happening to Other children's parents, too. But what I wanted to suggest was I'm in court right now and I've been in court for a really long time.
And I have a granddaughter that came to me that told me that she was being inappropriately touched and kissed by her half-brother's father when he was watching both of them.
And so, you know, she was almost four years old when she told me that.
And the language and, you know, everything that she told me that was going on, I believe her.
But where I'm at right now is, and I think this might help for everybody, with all the lies and the bullying, I became intimidated by opposing counsels, I'm a lawyer, too.
She came into the courtroom, she bullied me.
It would piss me off every time I would see her.
I would feel high anxiety.
You know, it was like I almost felt like I was in the room with the devil.
Because she would put it on paper that I'm harassing, that my claim is baseless, that my petition is frivolous, and that I'm harassing them.
And oh my God, some of the things that this woman said just really hurt me.
And I tried to stick to the facts.
And where I'm at now, and I'm like at $40,000 later, and I'm at the bottom of my pot.
We have what is called a 604.10C. It's a civil code in every state.
And what that means is that you can pick your own clinical psychologist.
And I watched Dr.
Craig Childress, and that's where I got my information from, and that's where I got my packets from.
And he suggests that when you are up against it like this in court, is to pick your own clinical psychologist who is a court evaluator.
Which is, by the way, exactly the place that Connie tried to place her person, which is very interesting because that's where you get your own person in there and it seems to be changing the outcome of things.
Right, and so what I'm going to do, because my grandson's father is trying to prevent this family from Just like Elliot, he's going through the same thing.
He does have a diagnosis.
He does have clinical diagnosis.
And so we picked our own.
And in May, when the judge allows us to move forward, we're going to have these checklists sent to the clinical psychologist that I chose.
And how I found him is like, I watched Dr.
Childress' videos. And he will tell you, don't get guardian ad litems involved.
They're a time waster. And he said, just go straight to it.
And what you want is you want to come back with a treatment plan and a diagnosis.
So he gave me a packet and one of them is a diagnostic checklist that the clinical psychologist, court evaluator will fill out in a risk assessment.
So he would look at DECA and he would say, okay, this is, and it's a four hour test.
We have to pay for it, but it's really worth it.
And then they come into the court and they will give you a diagnosis.
They will also interview John David.
John David, right?
That's his name. They would interview him and they would say he doesn't have any, he does not identify as a person that would rape a child and then that would clear his name and you can come back and sue for liable.
Big time. Joanne, do you mind if I interrupt you?
That's actually a great idea where you're going.
And I've actually talked to clinical psychologists that are not necessarily basing their assessment just on their own theory, which is a very interesting topic.
But I've been informed that Mr.
Des Dickerson, who joined us, he has a hard out.
So Des, do you mind giving us a quick introduction on who you are and how you've been involved with Connie and what kind of effect that has had upon your life?
Sure. And I'm really here more to speak on behalf of John David Cunningham.
I've known the Cunninghams for many years.
I've known John David, have worked with him.
My family and I are in business as well as in ministry.
We pastor a church as well as we're entrepreneurs.
And John David has been involved with us on kind of both sides of that coin.
Extremely high character, extremely dependable.
So the thing that I wanted to come on and share is Just the scurrilous nature of the accusations against him.
The recognition that if it can happen to him, it can happen to anyone.
And the issue with respect to John David is how do you unscramble the eggs That someone who was unscrupulous themselves have created in his life and in his family with his children and his future.
There's nothing, nothing whatsoever in his character to even remotely suggest that he would be capable of any of the things he's been accused of.
In fact, it's a classic situation where his accusers are guilty of doing the things they accuse him.
This is what it does.
Do you mind if I interrupt you real quick?
The point that I want to make here.
I've been following the story for quite a bit, right?
And what is very interesting, and I have evidence about what I'm about to state, right?
Is that John David's accusations happened after a recording where I believe Connie's stepson, you know, Anton, I believe his name is, Was basically, there was a recording with the two children of John David complaining about Anton and behavior that sounds to me like he was being abusive to these children.
Alright, so this is an insert shot where I explain the moment that we're talking about.
Down below, you're gonna see links to this audio with the children of John David Cunningham making some startling confessions.
Now, this audio below is, the quality is really bad, but we've actually gone through the audio, verified that these are the words that are being spoken.
And what I'm about to share with you is truly shocking because what happens in this audio is that the children are screaming about how much they hate Anton, who is the adopted son of Connie Reguli, and somebody that has access to the children, and it sounds like he's abusing the children, right?
And what is very interesting about this, and I will read you the actual dialogue that is being spoken, shocking dialogue, by the children and confessions that they're making.
What's interesting about this is that the minute the children started revealing the abuse to John David Cunningham, That's when the false accusations against John David Cunningham started.
And this is something that I've seen in the family law world where an abuser tries to cover up their steps by basically accusing the other party of doing what they are doing.
Now, I'm going to read some of this dialogue.
This is Anouk, right?
Anouk and Ace, the two kids.
Anouk being the daughter who is the daughter that John David was accused of raping and Ace being the son, right?
So Anuk starts saying things like he's a fucking bitch.
That's literally what the child says.
She says he's a fucking bitch over and over again in terms of speaking about Anton, Connie's adopted son, right?
And then she goes on saying, she keeps repeating, he's a fucking bitch, we hate fucking Anton.
Ace the son says, fuck this shit, I'm out.
Anouk says, calls Anton a fat fucking bitch.
Then Anouk screams, Anton's a fucking bitch.
Ace screams, Anton's a fucking ace asshole bitch.
Anouk starts singing, Anton is a fucking bitch, bitch, bitch, fucking bitch.
Anton is a fucking bitch, bitch.
And then Anouk says, Anton is a fucking bitch again.
He does not deserve donuts, is what the child says, right?
Anouk then says, Because I hate him about Anton, right?
And the child is almost crying and basically says, Anton slapped me.
She actually reveals that Anton slapped the child.
Comes out of the child's mouth, right?
By the way, all this hasn't been investigated because the minute Connie started with the false accusations against John, All of the attention went away from Anton.
Somebody that is documented by the children, by their own words, as having been abusive to them.
But it gets worse. It gets worse because now the children start talking about how Anton gets into the bed when mommy's gone.
Anouk says Anton gets into her bed when mommy's gone.
Anouk says he shook my head.
He shook my head. He slapped me.
And then says, he's a fucking bitch, fucking bitch.
Keep saying that, right? Now, you have a child here that's saying that she's having nightmares.
She's being slapped by this guy Anton, Connie's son.
That Anton is getting in her bed when mommy's gone.
Getting in the bed of a child.
And nobody's wondered that has, was she molested by Anton?
Because there's no evidence of John David having done such things.
Certainly when the child was tested, there was no evidence of rape.
But what there is evidence of is Anouk and Ace basically talking about how much they hate Anton and stating that Anton gets in the child's bed, in the six year old child's bed.
And these children are very uncomfortable.
False accusations started right when that recording was made, right when Connie was aware that there was a recording made about her own son being abused with these children, where the children are literally saying, F, Anton, he's this, he's that, we hate him, this, that, right?
Interesting that Connie pushes these accusations right when her own son is being accused of abuse, which is recorded, so anyway.
By the children.
And the children never said anything about their father.
I just want to say, Vim, relative to Des's comments regarding John David, that Des as a friend, Des as a creative person who's worked professionally with John David,
but also Des as a pastor of a church, has been in close proximity to john david his children and his wife so he has a des has a familial connection where des has been with this family and walked things out with john david his children and his wife so when he's when he's uh making these uh assertions these aren't just his his
It's his first-hand observation.
So I just wanted to clarify that because I happen to be aware of that because Dez has had this close relationship with John David, his children and his wife.
Dez has a son that is between John David's daughter and son's age.
Wow, wow. And Dez, you're a musician, correct?
Yeah, I, you know, served my time in the music business.
Served your time? That's funny.
That's what I say. I was a music video director.
I say I served my time. Oh, there you go.
There you go. He served his time in maximum security.
There we go. If you don't mind me mentioning, you worked for Prince or with Prince for a while.
Yeah, I was the original guitarist in The Revolution.
That is very cool. That is very cool.
I would really like for there to be some background work done to figure out the correlation between Connie and this judge in the courtroom, and I think it needs to be exposed, and I think it should be on national news, and I think Somebody needs to get a hold of it because an innocent man is facing going to prison.
And these children are at risk for God knows what.
I mean, they haven't even hit middle school yet.
And, you know, who knows?
I mean, their life right now, their lives are hanging in the balance as well.
And it's really unreal.
What's the DA's name and the judge's name?
Ellie, do you recall?
The DA in this case was Hugh Ammerman out of Murfreesboro.
And the judge is Judge Barry Tidwell.
Tidwell, Tidwell, that's right.
I mean, you know, I want the judge and the DA to be aware.
First of all, we've gotten multiple emails stating that Kanye has a direct relationship with his DA's office.
Second of all, the transcripts show that the DA at one point thought he didn't even have a case, but the judge wanted to continue the case, which is very awkward for a judge to force the case to move forward and not give John David enough time to make his case in terms of needing the extra days and that sort of thing.
I mean, what do you think was going on there?
Is it that like, they just think they have this thing covered up and it's never going to be exposed?
Good question. Because, you know, having not dealt with courts and lawyers and don't know the legal world, don't know how it all, all the ins and outs.
Connie's an expert.
She's an expert.
She was a former DA, a former prosecutor.
This is the sad thing, by the way.
This is all about playing the game of chess.
It has nothing to do with the children's health.
It has to do with strategy, their sixth strategy of how they're gonna win cases, how they're gonna bend the truth and all that.
Zero percent to do with the safety of the kids, the health of the kids.
That has nothing to do with- She's a criminal.
She's a criminal. I mean, she's actually, you know, one of the worst and the fact that she's been so deceptive to everybody, the fact that she's been able to orchestrate this on multiple accounts is really scary.
And this Berryman woman, this counselor, this Berryman woman, I mean, I bet if that was the next thing we could get out, if we could get John David And if we could get through this, I think we need to start focusing on these therapists and these judges and see where all this is coming from, because I've heard other stories about that therapist before.
This isn't the first I'd heard of.
Oh, we also, by the way, we got multiple emails about her as well, about her relationships, about how she's committed fraud, destroyed children's lives.
I mean, we could make probably 10 episodes about just the emails, information we've been getting about this particular crew.
Yeah. Now, in terms of, you know, Connie's behavior and her relationships, have you guys heard about in terms of her connections within Tennessee?
I mean, how deep do her connections go from what you've been hearing?
Have you heard things like she's connected with the DA, she's connected with the judge, even through the grapevine?
I don't know one person that likes her.
And I know a lot of attorneys, and attorneys typically aren't my favorite people.
But the majority of the attorneys I know don't like her, nor do they want to get involved with her.
I think there's a lot of attorneys who don't even want to take a case because they don't want to deal with her because she just keeps things tied up.
I mean, look at what she did with this judge in Williamson County, the one that she put him through hell, the one whose courtroom she just went through.
I'm drawing a blank on his name.
I know Dez has to leave, by the way.
Dez, was there anything else?
I know you're on a schedule here, but is there anything else you wanted to say in regards to John David in this case or Connie?
One quick statement. To Elliot's point, The level of relationship between myself, my wife, my son, our family, and John David and his children is one that is not subject to opinion.
It's not subject to he said, she said, I know the man and I know his children and I know his relationship with the children.
So again, if this can happen to John David, it can happen to anyone.
I apologize. I have to leave the call now.
Des, thank you so much for getting involved.
Thank you so much for having your voice be heard.
We thank you for being available for us.
My pleasure. Thank you. They offered John David a plea deal, because he's got 13 counts he was facing.
They stacked charges in Murfreesboro, which means that the charges and the sentencing, it doesn't run concurrently.
It can stretch out.
And so, you know, the DA offered him like an eight-year deal, and he's like, well, I am not pleading guilty to something I didn't do.
So he went to court.
So he, you know, with the idea that surely no jury would find him guilty based on this no evidence.
I mean, there's just no evidence.
But they did. Not only did they find him guilty, they found him guilty on maximum counts on all 13 counts.
And so that's why he's now facing sentencing.
of 250 years, and the belief is that the judge is going to give him maximum sentence on all counts.
So he's beyond plea deal.
There is no plea deal.
Right now, he's at the mercy of the court.
And we don't believe that this judge, we're asking people to go show up in white on sentencing day because, you know what, I don't believe the judge is going to show our son any mercy, but if he has to look out and see 50 people in his courtroom, and and be on notice that he's gonna you know make this ruling uh for a man who is innocent then you know so be it but that will then trigger the request for a new trial and then the request for uh the the process for appeal so his only hope
right now is appeal and and that this goes through the appeal process uh because you know we we we kept thinking it was not going to go that route i want to go back to a question though you asked This happens in family court.
Very seldom does it fall into the criminal court.
We were shocked it fell into the criminal court.
We kept thinking, surely it's not going to advance through the criminal process.
It did. We kept thinking as things were coming out about Connie that surely this was going to fall out of the criminal.
They were going to drop it. They didn't.
But you asked a question relative to the criminal process and Connie in the legal system in Tennessee.
That's one universe.
However, Connie has spent all these years, I don't know, 15, 20 years trying to establish herself in the family movement.
And Randy Davis has probably a little more experience in that category Joanne may have a little more experience in that category.
And now she's trying to wear her felonies as a badge of courage.
I thought the system and the system tried to bite me back.
And therefore, this is now a vindication and a validation that they're now after me.
And she's trying to use that to substantiate herself.
And I'd be curious to see what's happening in the family system at large.
Could I illustrate to the viewer what happened?
What happened, you know, so the viewer knows.
Connie tried to, you know, obviously has done all her dirty work, destroyed a number of families and children.
That didn't seem to be offensive to the courts.
But the minute that she starts going after judges and starts going after the system, that triggers something.
So in a way, it was a blessing in disguise.
But nonetheless, it's not because she's doing bad things.
It's because she's trying to do bad things to people that don't like bad things done to them and that are powerful.
It's just unbelievable.
It really is unbelievable that she continues to be this...
It's like constant trouble.
Constant trouble. Follows her everywhere.
Everybody knows it.
Everybody sees it.
She loves the attention.
She loves, you know, saying on her YouTube videos, oh, I think they're watching me.
You know, like, it's all about the spotlight on her.
And it doesn't matter if it's negative.
She loves it. It continues to make her the warrior and, you know, all of that BS. She just got back from India, where she's over trying to establish herself to help people over in India.
But she's going to destroy Indian lives now.
Yeah, I saw that.
And she got people to pay for it.
She did a GoFundMe or some kind of fund.
I mean, the insanity is, I just, I just don't even understand in this judge.
It's unreal. Some dude was like email or text there messaging me saying that, well, she's helped all these children in India.
Well, I'm like, yeah, but like, she also is like, you know, response for this John David situation.
Well, she's helped children in India.
I'm like, how could you like, how could you even justify that?
Like, you know what I mean? She's like, she's been okay here, but she's murdered people here.
I know, exactly. It's like such a crazy logic.
Well, it's like a mafia thug, actually.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, exactly, exactly.
The caliber of the people that are defending her is apparent.
Yeah, I have a feeling the average IQ would be pretty low.
Sorry. Yeah, it's just unreal.
Well, I hate to get off, guys.
I do work in the retail world, so I have got to go back in and go to my job, but thank you for letting me come on and say, and I just, my best wishes and prayers are with the Cunninghams, and I will be there on the 12th, and I will write letters, And I'll do everything I can to help them.
My years of living in fear of Connie and her goons ended quite some time ago.
So I just, I do still believe in the power of prayer, and all I can do is hope and pray that John David will come out of this on the other side.
Michelle, thank you for your time.
Thank you for your courage, and thank you for standing up for the truth.
Right. Thank you so much.
I appreciate it. Thank you. Bye-bye.
Randy, tell us a little bit.
I mean, it sounds like you have an extensive, you know, more than a decade of knowing Connie.
Tell us what you've experienced in that time.
Excuse me. I guess the way to start this is, how did I even meet up with Connie?
And there was a situation where Katie Pavlich of Fox News and James O'Keefe of Project Veritas, I went to a meeting and I had evidence And financial statements, HUD statements, everything you could think of just through fraud at a federal level by 501.
So I went with my brother in Raleigh and we met with them and they made me a writer back in 2012.
So they said, you're going to get retaliation when you come out with this.
But Katie Powell spent like four hours.
I said, well, I'm not a writer, but I'll do whatever.
So I wrote for them.
And when I did, I got retaliation.
All right. They came after my almost 16 year old daughter.
It went viral everywhere.
So, before it was over with, I had no idea what family court was.
I didn't know about DSS. I didn't know about forensic psychologists, psych evaluation, all this other stuff that comes at you.
So, during this thing, my daughter does videos while they have They put me in jail for five months with no charge.
Charged me with nine different things before that.
I beat them all because I refused to take their lawyer.
So I won every single thing.
Got my daughter back.
Everything was over, but they kept retaliating.
And because it went viral, Connie got in touch with me.
It doesn't matter who you are.
If it has some limelight, or you have followers, or you have any kind of presence, she's going to attach to you.
Now, my first time meeting her in public was down in Georgia at the Nancy Schaefer Memorial.
We go down there, Connie's drinking her wine, and she seemed to be fine.
She has a lot of knowledge.
But Connie is very slippery.
And let me tell you what caused the issues with Connie and I is just what these people have said when the lady said, Her associates and those who are supporting her are very sketchy.
Look, I'll just give you a few names, and David Shore.
David Shore is a guy, and this is easily checked, you can Google David Shore, and you're gonna pull up a registered sex offender who spent 10 years in prison for molesting his handicapped daughter.
Now, David Shore wrote a book and Connie regularly blogged and blurbed his book.
So I'm like, why are you blurbing the book of a registered sex offender when you're supposed to be about family rights?
So she's mad about that one.
But she did it. Brian Robertson, he was here from Guilford County, North Carolina, and also Ulster County, New York.
Same thing. Brian Robertson went to prison.
And he was in for 10 years, and he also is a registered sex offender.
But he was in the Family Further Project.
Jason Byron Shoup, he's a mortal enemy of mine because, like Connie, he destroys people's cases.
He is also a Jacksonville, North Carolina, right outside of Camp Lejeune.
He is another registered sex offender.
Which, by the way...
If I could quickly interrupt you, what's interesting is we did a documentary, because we've been going after these scumbags for a while.
There's basically the Connie of Nevada that we went after.
And what's interesting is that one of his premier lawyers in his firm, actually would have been his partner at one point, is a registered sex offender.
We did, and this is the lawyer I'm talking about is one of the biggest in Nevada, actually wrote the family law book.
And lo and behold, you do research on this guy.
Turns out that there's multiple witnesses that saw him get arrested in 1981 because he went into Sears and saw two 14 year old girls and started masturbating in front of them in middle of Sears.
Now you have to be like a next level of fucked up to basically take out your junk in the middle of Sears and start masturbating, right?
This man was protected until recently.
Until recently, we did a documentary that was half an hour long calling him out for what he did, calling his partner out for being a registered sex offender, which is easy to find out.
And remember, this is a guy working in a law firm, so they're getting pictures of children.
And this pervert who's tried to screw a 15-year-old girl is seeing pictures of children.
And you know what kind of pictures go around in, you know, family law firms.
If there's been abuse, you're seeing, you know, naked parts of the child and you have a registered sex offender.
I mean, how would How this is even possible?
And the bar knows about this.
And they basically disbarred him temporarily and then gave him his license back.
So what is going on there?
Why are they letting these perverts into a profession where there's children being dealt with?
And what you're saying is like, this is not a unique case to Nevada.
This is happening all over the place.
It is, and Connie regularly allows them into her group.
And let me tell you what happens.
These people know. I had no idea that a family court, I thought it would be like any other court, you would have due process, you have none.
I thought you would have constitutional rights, you have none.
So, you're helpless.
You're vulnerable. I get it.
And the reason I... And the terrorists.
I'm sorry to interrupt you again, but the terrorists.
This is the word that we have to use because if anywhere else there was kidnapping, child abuse, literal emotional mental torture, that is called terrorism.
That's a legal definition. That's not me being emotional and saying, oh, these people are terrorists.
No. If you actually break it down, if all these people weren't, you know, or a lot of them weren't, you know, bar-appointed attorneys trying to help each other out and cover up each other's nonsense, the legal definition of what Connie is doing is terrorism, period.
There's kidnapping involved, there's terrorism.
I would also add it's called extortion.
Extortion, yeah. Because she threatens and she bullies and she pushes and abuses the law to get what she wants.
Yep. Yep.
Totally. So Randy, I feel like I interrupted you.
Was there more that you wanted to say?
Oh, I heard, if you've got time.
Look, I have watched as this woman, if she doesn't like you, or you, here's the big thing, and there was a little key going through everybody, and you said it several times, man, about thank you for your courage, because what Connie does, when I would call her out or any one of her associates, Associates out, going to helpless families, single mothers, fathers fighting.
Whenever you do that and you expose her with the truth that can be found with a Google search or on our shows we post it on Team Rev It Up.
We show the evidence.
Stop making it up. But when you do that, call out and do a call to action.
She's did it on me several times.
And she will do these call to actions, claiming she's got 15,000 members in Family Forward Project, and then you'll get 300 to 500 people reporting your Facebook page, You will be utterly destroyed simply because you told the truth about her.
And the hypocrisy of Connie is, Connie, there's pictures out there of Connie with Al Gore and Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, because she's celebrating the creation of the American Families and Safe Adoption Act, which she claimed that she was a part of when it created,
and now she makes her money Over on the other side of Family Court because of something that's a nightmare created by the Clintons in Title IV funding.
And she expects everybody to just sit by and watch it.
And then what disturbed me about the Cunningham thing, and I would not even be on here if you hadn't done this show.
I haven't done anything in two years.
I was happy being quiet.
But Connie's involvement with what I call a whore of the court.
I did a show on it because there's a book called Whores of the Court.
And it's where paid psychologists and therapists and experts are brought in and they're nothing more than prostitutes of the court.
They're going to say... I love that word.
That is the word, prostitutes.
Sorry, I'm trying to interrupt you.
That prostitute word is perfect.
That's exactly what they are. Yeah.
Absolutely. And I'm going to tell you, Connie liked the things that we were pointing out with my little group, but she didn't like the fact that when we told the truth, we would tell it on everybody.
We did one one time.
There's a North Carolina clinical psychologist who was taking it left and right with her relations.
But then I'm on Facebook one day.
And this woman had her kid in a dog kennel and took pictures on Facebook.
So I blasted her everywhere, you know, and put it all out there.
Well, next thing I know, I'm getting cease and desist and turn them because I don't care.
I don't care what they do to me.
But then Connie will turn around.
She's right. A gnome fraud.
David Jose, a gnome fraud.
These frauds defraud the parents and Connie will support them because even in their little realm, they have followers.
And that's all that Connie does rallies for or the fake congressional hearing in D.C. She's all about the numbers.
Because to Connie, if she doesn't have a law license anymore, you can believe she's going to go for grant money, donations, go fund me, whatever kind of can get her hands on is what Connie regularly is going to do.
So I just want to warn parents and let us know, you know, don't go there.
Because the problem is I get called by these people.
We did a show with Natasha Pavlis, the actress.
Connie just about ruined her and she didn't win until she got rid of Connie.
Then there's a grandmother, two grandmothers here who reported to, when Connie was doing rallies here, they showed her the evidence of sexual abuse of children.
One of two twin little girls and they showed UNC hospital records to Connie.
Connie blew it off like it was nothing.
She knew they were being sexually abused, and Connie turned her back.
This hurt those people.
And what happens is, after Connie- It's so mind-blowing.
It's so mind-blowing what you're saying.
The fact that she would have seen evidence of sexual abuse and done nothing, yet here, there's literally no evidence of sexual abuse.
You would think that if a 35-year-old raped a 6-year-old, there'd be all kinds of torn up craziness.
Guess what? And nothing.
She never reported anything.
Of course she's not going to report it, because if she reports it as opposed to let the hearsay kind of settle in...
That's it. That's it.
She knows that these lies, I mean, it's almost Hitlerian, like, or, I don't know, Stalin-esque, or whatever.
You repeat the same lie over and over again, it becomes facts, you know?
It's the narrative. It's crazy.
It's crazy. April, you were saying something about your children being psychologically affected by all of this.
Do you want to elaborate on that?
Yeah, I was just chatting with Joanne, giving her some info on that.
So my youngest daughter, as I was telling you before, she was five when this happened.
And for years, she would go into her closet at her father's place and just cry for hours.
And her brother, you know, because I'm not there, so I can't witness it.
I'm like, is this serious?
Like, is this for real?
And he's like, yeah, she does.
And she has depression issues because of it.
She has mental abuse in her head.
I know it's partially from her father because his thing is you have to have all A's or it's not good enough.
And if she got less than 100% on anything, she would start crying, telling herself that she was stupid while right there in the car with me.
And, you know, I am constantly having to fight against his mental and emotional and verbal abuses that he does to them and then the neglect that he does to them in multiple faucets.
So it's a very frustrating and hurtful for me because, you know, I'm the mother and I, you know, that's what we do is we nurture, we take care, we make sure they have everything.
I mean, granted the father's supposed to do that too, but he doesn't.
And I'm constantly fighting against that.
I get my daughter back on the weekends.
It's frigid cold outside and she has no coat simply just because he doesn't want to send a coat of his To my home.
He's put his own name in her clothes that she has to change in and out of at school.
And that's bothering her because the other kids are like, why is your father's name in your clothes?
She's 50 pounds overweight, so now she's having issues with being picked on at school.
Clothes not fitting.
She can't even fit into my clothes.
She weighs just as much as I do, but she's much shorter, so my clothes can't even fit her anymore.
You feel as though all this legal trickery of Connie made a lot of psychological damage to the child at that key moment in her life?
It's psychological to her because she's been stripped away from her mother, who Connie did not help to get my children.
My ex-husband should be in prison and I should have got full custody on my kids.
It's just the end of it and the end of the day.
And that's not what happened.
Because I didn't have all the money because I was literally frozen from all assets because I'm quote-unquote a drug addict and alcoholic.
And in all of this, I mean, it's really the person paying the most money.
That's all it is. It has nothing to do with who's the better parent.
It has nothing to do with what's best for the kid.
As long as you're paying money, as long as you're shelling out the cash, chances are you're going to prevail.
Like I have stated to some other people, is anybody I've talked to that have had Connie as their lawyer, the only ones who have their children is the ones that paid her $250,000.
I've heard that number two before, yeah.
$250,000. Anybody who's paid her less than that do not have their children.
Let me ask you, and I know we're theorizing here.
Is that because this is what I've heard.
I've heard $250,000, and by the way, this is not about Connie alone.
I've heard this across the board.
That $250,000 is a number essentially to buy judges because you have enough to put in the kitty and you have enough money to buy the judge.
I know we're speculating.
This is all speculating opinion.
What do you think is going on there?
Honestly, I have been flat out told by a friend of mine who went through a different kind of criminal situation in Texas.
And he flat out told me it only takes $50,000 to buy out a court in Texas.
So I mean, we're talking about Tennessee.
So I'm sure the number is less than that.
And my ex-husband had tens of thousands and hundreds of thousands of dollars sitting in the banks.
And so forth. I don't even have my Quadro money, which is the retirement money and stuff I was supposed to get.
The literature was written up by the judge in a way that doesn't allow me to get the money I was granted in the divorce.
Yeah. And my son, in regards back to psychological, my son, my oldest son has kind of, I don't know what to call it, schizophrenia type visions.
He's had visions of his father sending people to break into the school and into our home to abduct him because he made it very clear before I filed for divorce that he would do everything in his right power to keep those children from me even if he has to take them out of the country.
And my daughter has had dreams of him killing all of us, trying to run us off the road.
My car was sabotaged to kill all of us.
And that's why I ended up going to the sexual assault and domestic violence center.
They set me up with a protection plan type thing, which come to find out was not legal to carry out because a judge has to sign it.
Nobody tells you all this stuff.
Like I said, they don't set you up to make sure that you're protected and that you're doing everything like you're supposed to be doing legally and so forth.
And like you said, it's not just one lawyer, it's lawyers across the board on how much you pay them on whether they do what they're supposed to do for you in court.
You know, this is the irony, and I had a little bit of a flashback, April, as you were sharing your story, and we've never met you, my wife and I, Mary Catherine.
But in our son's case, his wife was represented by Connie initially, and then ultimately by Megan Miller.
There was 199 motions in the family court proceedings.
Ironically, in his case, the family court ruled every time on his behalf and really was quite good on his behalf.
And it was almost as if they couldn't get what they wanted through the family court that it ended up turning into criminal.
And that's the appearance because the family court proceedings, while they were protracted and drawn out, actually worked consistently on his behalf.
But then it turned into criminal, and then that's when the criminal side of it just was so egregiously blew back on him.
I mean, what do you think is going on with this jury?
What happened there where they bought this nonsense with no evidence when the child's saying that I lied about it and stuff?
Like, how did that... As I told you in our interview, I went back, you know, you and I did that interview in December pretty fresh after the trial.
Mm-hmm. And I was reflecting back on it and I've had a lot of people contact me afterwards and even to this day I can't fathom it.
I don't know how a jury of our peers could sit through that five days and hear all the evidence that was presented, which by the way, was all presented in a family court with the same evidence that was presented in the criminal court, was presented in the family court.
And the judge in the family court said he gets to see his children.
And ironically, the only evidence that wasn't presented in family court that the jury did see was the testimony of the medical exam that came back and said there was no evidence.
So I don't know.
It's beyond me how something that was adjudicated in family court and found unfounded.
It was found by a jury of his peers to be beyond a reasonable doubt, so I don't know.
You know what's funny?
In the communication that Connie had, and this came, by the way, before she made any mention of anything child abuse or sex-related, right?
She said she mentions that John David's attorneys were horrible.
Which I found really interesting that she mentioned that because she mentioned that in the context of the result of the case.
Which I thought was a little bit of a slip right there because I don't know if she'd be actually mentioning that if she believed that John was actually guilty of this stuff.
Because she believed on their acumen, nothing else.
Yeah, well, I don't know.
And as I mentioned to you, it's ironic in the sense that Connie has much of any opinion about a five-day trial that because she was going to be a state witness, which ultimately she was never called, the state refused to call her, the state refused to call the wife, right?
The only thing that Connie was present for was closing arguments from both attorneys.
That's the only thing she ever heard.
She never heard anything in court.
So, you know, who knows?
I can't judge that.
You know, Randy, you made a comment earlier on kind of Connie and her minions, you know, solely because Connie doesn't want us to see our grandchildren and they live three miles from us.
We're not allowed to see our grandchildren because Connie and her daughter won't let us.
That alone is a crime against humanity.
If you actually look at the international criminal courts of what constitutes a crime against humanity, kidnapping, displacement, alienation is one of those crimes against humanity.
She is committing crimes against humanity.
this judge and this DA are committing crimes against humanity and what these this judge and DA should know is stuff like this is forever on the internet this stays forever this stays when the appeal happens and John is released it all comes out that you guys screwed up big time and put a man in jail and frankly this is an extremely callous act because if you look at John David I mean let's describe John David he's a pretty boy right he's a pretty boy he's a pretty boy that now is in jail as a pedophile and guess what jail justice
when it comes to pedophiles is a lot more serious than the real world.
They take care of pedophiles.
The fact that they put John David, a man like him, in jail, being accused of pedophilia is a death sentence then.
So this is not a regular, like, Cash Jackson's case, for those that have heard, was pretty bad.
It's as bad as it gets. This is a hundred times worse because those kind of dudes get killed in jail.
And that's the risk that John is facing every single day because of the work of Connie.
Yeah, well, I want to know something.
For someone like Connie, who really fancies herself to be a pedophile hunter, you know, she finds these people and she makes sure that those pedophiles are put away.
How did she get one for a son-in-law?
What are the odds?
What are the odds?
Why is she covering up the abuse of Anton?
Why is she covering up the abuse of her own son?
Why is that not an issue?
If she's all about equal, whatever, the children are clearly terrified of Anton.
It's a recording. They are upset at Anton.
They don't like Anton.
They say the F word about him and is this and that.
Why is that not being investigated?
Yeah, and why isn't the fact that the children are not afraid of their father, that they love their father, adore their father, every time they're with him, every time they've been with him, it's been about all his attention, all his attention, hugging him, kissing him, loving him.
You know, where is the abuse?
I would say that the abuse is coming from That direction.
Connie, in her communications, Connie made it really clear that the thing that's most offensive about John David is the fact that women love him, and apparently he has an Instagram page where he gets all these pictures, and you know, anybody that knows John David, the dude walks around with these, you know, sunglasses, wears a crown, like, Burger King, I mean, and a suit, and like, girls see him, and they're like, oh, I gotta take a picture with this guy.
He's the cutest thing in the world. Yeah, anybody who's But anybody who sees him wants to know who he is and they want to have a picture made with him.
It's the coolest thing and like we couldn't walk 10 feet in Vegas without like beautiful women coming up to him and want to take pictures with the dude and you know she made a point of that I think she is pissed off that she can't control this man I think she's pissed off that frankly this man is much more appealing to others than her daughter is appealing to others right there's that jealousy in there there's a lot going on what it has nothing to do with is the rape of a six-year-old child Correct.
And so how does a person in their mind justify going this far to get rid of someone out of jealousy?
I mean, you're dealing with a sociopathic personality, a psychopath.
Give Connie enough power, she becomes an Adolf Hitler.
I mean, that's what it is.
And I know I'm going on the line there talking about the fact that...
I believe she's a psycho.
My opinion is she's a psycho.
Because psychos, I mean, you're talking about children's lives being destroyed.
You're talking about, like, straight up, like, lies being said in court over and over again.
You're talking about, like, you guys are here.
We had nine people here who have been affected negatively by Connie.
I've gotten 500 text messages and emails about people that have been affected or that know that Connie destroys lives.
So... Kudos to everybody's courage being on here.
We've got to expose these stories.
We're a little bit over an hour, so I want to conclude this.
And I wanted to ask, is there anything of importance to the John David case or pertaining to the scumbag work of Connie that you would like to mention in closing?
Whoever wants to go.
Well, I want to say thank you to April, Joanne, Randy, Dez, Michelle, For being brave enough to stick your neck out.
I want to say thank you to the 4,500 people that have watched the episode.
I want to say thank you to the thousands of people that have shared it.
With people that have contacted us, you know, Vim, you've ruined my life over the last 10 days because I'm up 24-7 answering people's emails, texts, Facebooks in a great way because it's elevated the story.
Over the last two years, there's been a lot of people, you know, Randy, I don't know you, but I know you've kind of had a toe in the water on our son's story.
But over the last two years, there's been a lot of people that have had pieces and parts of the story.
This has elevated it exponentially.
We're very grateful for that.
Spoke with John David last night, yesterday and again this morning, Vim, and he wanted me to personally tell you how much he appreciates You're telling his story and getting it out there because there's been a lot of times when he's felt hopeless and abandoned because nobody has listened and nobody paid attention as he was going through this whole process.
And so we're very grateful.
I'm very grateful for people being brave enough to show up here and participate with you and participate with us.
I just want to say thank you.
Anytime, anytime. You know, I'm going to quickly end this with a personal thing.
The reason, one of the main reasons why I'm doing this, multiple reasons, but when I was eight years old, my dad was actually kidnapped by Hezbollah, the terrorist group, because he was out there.
I was, you know, born and raised in North America, but we did a, you know, he was a professor.
We went there for a couple of years, right?
And frankly, there's no difference between what Hezbollah does and what our family courts do.
It's terrorism. That's it.
And that is a legal conclusion.
The effects of what these family courts do and these lawyers like Connie do to children, to parents, is the same effects of straight up terrorism.
And so that's what it comes down to me.
I think we have to call it what it is.
These family courts, these lawyers, these judges, these DAs are terroristic individuals.
If they're following the letter of the law and John David really did rape his daughter, I mean, he should go to hell.
Like you said, Elliot, you would have been the first one to, you know...
He wouldn't have to worry about the family court in Murfreesboro.
Yeah, yeah. But we know John didn't do this.
We know this is all a sham and this is...
The same thing is terrorizing individuals in countries that are third world, that are, you know, acting, you know, real acts of terrorism.
So that's what I want to say in closing.
Thank you so much, everyone, for showing up to this episode of Blood Money.
There's going to be many more, by the way.
We have enough episodes here that we're going to constantly be releasing more information about John David.
And frankly, some of the stuff that's been hidden from the courts, all coming soon.
But thank you so much for showing up for this episode of Blood Money.
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