Chris Ramsey introduces Part 3 of the Lacerta Files, detailing Swedish interviews from late 1999 where entity Lacerta dismisses religious labels as Elohim-conditioned programming. She explains UFO propulsion via a "Feldraum" para-layer enabling telepathy and levitation, citing a 20-centimeter pencil lift during recording. The discussion covers human simian genetic manipulation, interstellar wars, and the lethal radiation risks of stolen alien technology, concluding that humanity's inherited constraints and dangerous technological ambitions define our current existential trajectory. [Automatically generated summary]
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Giant Flying V Encounter00:03:31
Hi, Chris.
My name is Rob.
I'm in Northern California.
Back in 2012, my work partner and I were working on a 911 ambulance and working night shift together when we both saw a giant flying V partially cloaked, about 10,000 feet in the air, above our heads, completely silent.
It had five running lights in the center of the V, you know, two on each wing, one directly in the center towards the tip.
It, like I said, Very, very large in size, and it was completely silent.
It was on the early morning hours.
And after doing some research on such a craft, I later found out that this was the same craft reported by thousands in Phoenix back in 1997.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another episode of Debriefed.
My name is Chris Ramsey, and today we're going to be going through part three of the Lacerda files.
Now, these are two different interviews that happened in Sweden by a man who remains anonymous and a Female reptilian by the name of Lacerda.
We've read through the first part and we did that in two parts.
And now is the second part.
So, technically, part three.
You guys figure out the math.
I'm just here to go through the documents.
Things we've learned thus far from Lacerda include her anatomy, how babies are born.
We learned about this interstellar war for Earth.
We learned about our genetic manipulation when they stole simians for thousands of years and came back and we popped up.
And the reptilians went underground.
I mean, there's a whole lore to this.
This is, it gets crazier and crazier the more you read through it.
But also, we're here to see if we can match any of the information up with stuff that is currently being talked about.
You know, we might find something, we might not find something.
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Let's get into reading about the Lacerda files.
All right, where were we?
So we left off.
The last interview was allegedly in December of 1999.
And then they met up a second time, which was in April of 2000.
And this is that interview now.
So there is quite a lengthy introduction here before we get into the QA.
And this introduction is by Ole. K, who's this anonymous gentleman from Sweden.
So we're going to read through his introduction prior to getting into the QA.
Introduction I once again reaffirm that the following text is the absolute truth and is not fiction.
It was composed from three original tape recordings, which were made on April 24, 2000, with a tape recorder during my second interview with a reptilian creature known as Lacerda.
At Lacerda's request, the original text of 31 pages was shortened up to deal with some questions and answers.
Some existing questions were partially shortened or amended.
It was even undertaken to extract message and significance from it.
This part of the interview, either not mentioned or not mentioned completely in the transcript, deals primarily with personal issues, paranormal demonstrations, the social system of the reptilian species, and alien technology and physics.
Folks, this is going to get really interesting, I think.
Also, note that this was translated, I believe, from Swedish, so there will be some grammatical.
Corrections that would have to be made, but I'm going to read it sort of verbatim as is, as it was printed.
Forgive me if you were just an audio listener, by the way.
You're going to have to just wade through some of these errors with me.
The reason for the shifting of the date and time of the second meeting was a possible observation and surveillance of my own person after the publication of the first transcript.
Although everything was attempted on the advice of Lacerda to keep my identity a secret, Just two days after the dissemination of the document abroad, various unusual events took place.
Please don't think that I am paranoid.
However, I believe that the publication of the interview has drawn either official attention or the attention of some organization to me.
Up until this time, I usually regarded people who believed that they were being followed by the state to be nothing more than jokers.
But now I have begun to revise my ideas on that since events in January.
It began with a failure of my telephone for several hours.
When the phone became operational once again, there were quiet echoes and strange clicking and whirring sounds when I made calls.
A defect could, ostensibly, not be found anywhere.
Overnight, important data disappeared from the hard drive in my computer.
The testing program reported defective sectors, where strangely enough, there were only data which dealt with illustrations and completed textual material from the interview.
These defective sectors also contained material of a paranormal nature in the field of my research.
Fortunately, the material was also stored on floppies.
In addition, I discovered.
By pure chance, some hidden data in a likewise hidden directory index.
The name which appeared on the data and the directory index was E72UJ.
Okay.
So this guy's, you know, running into some what he thinks is probably interference on the government's behalf or just, you know, some other people trying to keep tabs on him.
Interesting that he's like, I backed it up on a floppy.
You know, 2000 doesn't seem that far back, but I mean, we've come quite a long way in terms of technology.
A friend who is a computer expert could not make anything of this designation, and when I was about to show it to him, the directory index had disappeared.
One evening, my apartment door was standing wide open.
My TV set was running, and I am absolutely confident that I had turned the TV set off.
Okay.
Says he's not paranoid.
Sounds paranoid.
Is it justified?
Maybe.
A minivan with British markings and the imprint of a Europe wide supermarket chain parked in front of my house.
I noticed.
The same minivan again on several occasions, traveling at a distance behind my car, even when I visited the town of 65 kilometers away.
When I returned, the car was on the other side of the street once again.
I never saw anyone get into or out of the car.
A knock on the door of the vehicle and on the tinted windows caused no reactions of any kind.
After about two weeks, the minivan disappeared again.
When I informed EF, EF being the other person involved in In this dissemination of information personally about these events, he suggested that I change place and date of the meeting in order to assure our own and Lacerda's safety.
The meeting took place on April 27th, 2000, in another isolated location.
It was unobserved as far as I can determine.
Ancient Programming and Elohim00:10:41
Once again, all of this may sound strange and paranoid, like a fantasy from a cheap science fiction film.
However, I can only repeat to and assure the reader once again.
All of this is the unadulterated truth.
Believe my words or don't believe them.
These things have happened and they will continue to happen, whether you believe it or not, until it is too late.
Our civilization is in danger.
Ola Kay, May 3rd, 2000.
Wow.
All right.
This character here again assures us that this is true.
Exactly what you would do if you were making something up, but we're going to believe it just for now and see what happens.
This is the shortened version of the transcript of the interview dated April 27th, 2000.
Here's a comment by Ola Kay before we get started.
The meeting began with an appraisal of diverse questions and opinions which I had gotten from the readers of the First transcript in anonymous fashion through distribution for my trustworthy friends.
Some of these opinions, altogether, there were over 14 pages of paper, contained comments shaped by everything from a radically religious to a fanatical tendency to welcome contact with a reptilian species.
Some of these comments contained stereotypical phrases like servants of hell or species of the evil one.
I don't want to get into any kind of detailed description here since I don't want to pass on further any false and radical realm of thought.
Okay.
So he kind of ignored those questions, I would assume.
And here we go.
Strap yourselves in.
It's going to get weird.
Question When you read these religious and anonymously written comments here, what do you think and feel then?
Is the relationship between your species and ours really shaped from that kind of total negation?
Answer Does it amaze you that I am not completely angered by that?
I had fully expected those kinds of extreme reactions.
The programming for the utter negation of another species, especially the reptilian species, as in your own case, is deeply embedded in each of your own individual consciousnesses.
This ancient conditioning stems from the days of your third artificial creation, and, biologically speaking, is passed down as an information genome from generation to generation.
The identification of my species with the powers of darkness was a primary intention of the Elohim.
Who liked seeing themselves in the role of the powers of light, something which, in and of itself, represents a paradox since that humanoid species was extremely sensitive to your sunlight.
In case you were expecting me to act offended, I guess I'll have to partially disappoint you.
That's an interesting way to get started here.
So, Lacerda, taking the high road on this conversation, does not seem to be offended or negatively affected by the comments sort of negating her existence.
And she said, This is like pretty much what the Elohim had in place.
So, these beings, these humanoid beings who are like allergic to the sun, ironically, you know, also tell humans that they come from light and that the, you know, that the reptilians are the evil ones.
It's really interesting because it's also, you know, who do you believe in this scenario?
They're both, in my opinion, suspicious.
These obscure intentions are not really your fault.
You are simply following, for the most part, What you have inherited from your ancestors.
It is indeed actually somewhat disappointing that many of you develop no especially strong individual self-conscience, for this would help you to overcome the conditioning.
As I already said, we were in direct contact in the last several centuries with some of your more primitive human tribes.
These tribes had themselves succeeded in breaking through the old creation programming.
They were able to meet us without tension, hate, In total rejection.
Apparently, many of your modern civilized individuals are not in a position to think on their own, but rather let themselves be guided by programming and religion, which is also a manifestation of the ancient programming and part and parcel of the plan of the Elohim.
Therefore, comments of that kind I'd sooner regard as amusing than irritating.
They simply confirm, in large measure, for me, my suppositions about your defined mode of thinking.
All right.
This, this, this whole.
Condescension with Lacerda and the reptilian species is nothing new.
You know, we are thick skinned.
We have developed quite a shield when it comes to this stuff.
I now take no more offense from this lizard.
But she is saying that we are pretty much all sheep.
And you know what?
I mean, who among us is going to be like, we're not sheep?
Of course, we know we're sheep.
That's the craziest part of it.
Like, we know even now more than yesterday, have our screens in our faces.
There's a comedian that said this who's like, We're at a point in civilization where we're trying to figure out how many screens we can put between us and the wall with like a TV, a laptop, a tablet, a phone, a watch, and then just augmented reality on the glasses.
Just how many of these screens can we obey?
Yeah, I don't think any of us will refute such an accusation.
Question Therefore, you are not the species of the evil one.
As was remarked earlier, answer.
How am I supposed to answer that?
Your people still think according to a simple and completely inappropriate scheme of generalizations.
Simply put, there are absolutely no purely evil species.
There exists in every terrestrial and extraterrestrial species alike both good and evil individuals.
It's even true of your own people, but there is no such thing as an absolutely evil species.
This conception is really very primitive.
You people have believed from time immemorial what you are supposed to believe, what was foreseen for you to believe By your creators.
You know, that's a really interesting point.
And, you know, chalk one up for Lacerda on this one because I do believe that that is accurate.
We're often a little delusional in thinking that, you know, if we visited a planet, that they would all look the same, dress the same, and obey the same God and have all the same morals and principles.
But unless they were a hive mind, that wouldn't be the case.
You would have internal conflict and civil war, perhaps, or just varying different opinions.
But again, You know, I do think that if a civilization developed the use of telepathy instead of spoken language, individuality would cease to exist and you would probably see a lot more assimilation, sort of a lot less of this, um, confliction, you know, that humans face.
And so Lacerda saying that this is very primitive for you guys to think that every species, you know, shares one sort of objective view of reality.
I don't think that it's that.
Primitive.
I think that probably out there in the universe, there are some extraterrestrials that, because of their immense capacity of telepathy, you just can't hide anything from anyone.
And so you kind of have to become one, I would assume, right?
Every well known species, even the more highly developed ones, consists of a great number of individual consciousnesses.
At least a portion of the consciousness is individual, even though there are connecting fields of consciousnesses.
Whoa, okay.
So never mind.
She just completely destroyed my theory.
She says that both can exist simultaneously.
Well, that's interesting.
These self sufficient spirits are able to decide freely for themselves a lifestyle which is either good or evil, according to your own human standards.
It depends again on the respective point of view.
Your people are not necessarily in a position to judge whether the deeds of a much more highly developed species are good or evil, because you stand at a lower observation point from which an assessment is not possible.
Your simple words, good and evil, are in any case examples of a tendency towards generalization.
In my language, there are many concepts.
For the various shades of the meaning of individual behaviors in comparison to the norm of a society.
Great point.
Yeah, good and evil definitely does sort of fit it into a neat little box black, white, good, evil, up, down, this binary view of everything.
I definitely see how that can inhibit nuance from existing.
Even those extraterrestrial species which are inclined to act with antagonism towards you are not species of the evil one.
Even though they operate negatively with respect to your own race, they do this for their own reasons and do not regard themselves as evil.
Were your structured way of thinking more linear and more focused as theirs is, then you would also behave in such a fashion.
The attitude of a species towards other kinds of existence naturally depends very heavily on its respective structured way of thinking.
Each species sets its own priorities.
To classify that as good or evil is really quite primitive.
For the survival of any species argues for many varieties, among them your own, as well as for even the most varied of the worst or negatively directed deeds.
I won't even exclude my own kind in this regard, for there have been certain occurrences in the past which I don't personally welcome, but about which I would also not like to go into detail.
None of these occurrences have happened in the last 200 years of your time scale.
But please note the following there are no absolutely good and there are no absolutely bad species because each and every species always consists of individuals.
Okay, point made.
She did refer to some type of event that took place 200 years ago, which is interesting.
Also, I get the feeling, and this might just be me, but let me know if you also have a similar sense.
This is written more eloquently than the last one.
Fourth State of Matter Theory00:04:22
And I don't know.
This is actually, oh, I should have mentioned that before.
This is translated by a different person.
And that could be why.
So that explains why this one's a little easier to read than the past, you know, Lacerda parts.
Question In the letters that I got, there was often the question whether you could go into any greater detail regarding the advanced physics that you commented on last time.
Your words, many people said your words made no sense.
For example, How do UFOs function?
How do they fly?
How do they perform the maneuvers they do?
Great question.
Because I also felt like in the comments, there were a lot of people that were like, no, nothing you're saying adds up.
And there are a lot of smart people who watch these videos.
So I'm glad that you guys are paying attention.
The answer is a long one.
All right.
Answer I ought to explain that to people.
That's not all that simple.
Let me think about it for a minute.
I always have to use very simple words in order to make clear to you the basic principles of a higher kind of science.
Let's try this.
You have to be clear about some fundamental facts.
The very first thing is that you must divide up the conception of the physical world because each existence consists of different layers.
Let's say, for simplicity's sake, that it consists of a material illusion and a sphere of influence.
Translator's note here.
No legitimate translation exists for this word, Feldraum.
Feld means field, and Raum means space or room or expanse.
Therefore, I'm translating it as sphere of influence.
Okay, Feldraum, sphere of influence.
Certain physical conditions are associated only with the realm of the material, as in the concrete, while other and more complicated conditions are associated only with the sphere of influence of our material world.
Your conception of the physical world is based upon a simple material illusion.
That illusion is further subdivided into three elementary or basic conditions of matter.
A fourth and very important condition also exists, which you simply pay attention to more or less as you choose.
It is the one bordering on the sphere of influence or plasma realm.
For you, the theory for a controlled transformation or an elevation of the frequency of matter and the stable existence of this fourth aggregate condition of matter is not very common.
Or it exists at a very primitive level.
As an aside, there are simply five states of matter, but the post plasma state would really be going too far and it would only serve to confuse you.
Besides, it is not necessary for an understanding of the basic theory.
It is connected with diverse phenomena which you would characterize as paranormal.
Okay, we're talking ghosts here, plasma ghosts.
Now, back to the essentials plasma.
Now, with plasma, I don't just mean.
Hot gas, as the concept is generally simplified by your people, but rather I mean a higher aggregate condition of matter.
The plasma state of matter is a special form of matter which lies between its real existence and the sphere of influence, that is, a complete loss of mass and pure accretion of energy of various forms whenever matter is, quote unquote, pushed or shoved.
Editor's note no explanation was given for the word push.
Or shoved, as used in the context, your guess is as good as mine.
The fourth state of matter is very important for certain physical conditions, which can be used, for example, to how should I express this to you generate anti gravity.
That's a rather strange human word and not really correct, but you ought to understand it better this way.
Essentially, in the world of real physics, there are no bipolar forces, but rather only observer dependent reflective behavior of a single large unified force at different levels.
When we talk about the quantum field here, the quantum vacuum.
With antigravity, or the displacement of gravitational characteristics into levels, one can, for example, cause apparently solid matter to levitate.
Mirrored Reality and Physics00:15:40
This method is employed partly by us and by extraterrestrials, as well as a means of propulsion for their UFOs.
You people are moving on a really primitive level towards a similar principle of your secret military projects.
But since you have more or less stolen this technology, and it was later falsely passed on to you intentionally by extraterrestrials, you lack the real physical understanding.
As a result, you have to struggle with problems of instability and radiation with your UFOs.
This is really interesting because the concept of donations comes up a lot in ever since.
The crashes in the 40s, there have been apparent, and this was also mentioned by David Grush, donations from the extraterrestrials.
Like they've just kind of left their craft or their technology here for us to back engineer or to use to help us sort of advance our own technology.
But there always seems to be a problem, which is why we're hearing a lot about the psionics and the importance of psionics, because the interface or the interaction with the technology requires a psychic connection.
One which perhaps the extraterrestrials have more of a capability of doing.
And as mentioned with the podcast and Danny Sheehan, he said there are government programs that are doing assisted psionics, which is using technology, amplifying the signal or amplifying the psychic ability within these people, but also frying their brains at the same time.
And that's kind of, you know, maybe what Lacerda is hinting to that, you know, we don't really have any idea of what we're doing.
And I was sworn to secrecy when I was told about the psionic, it's called psionic assists.
That there's a technology that they've got that is amping up the capacities of individuals to do telepathic communication.
And it's very dangerous and it's frying out the brains of people that they're testing.
Go check out that podcast with Danny Sheehan, by the way.
Very interesting stuff.
According to my information, there have been a great number of deaths of your people because of intense radiation and field disturbances.
Don't you agree this is also an example of the business regarding the question of good and evil?
You people play with unknown forces and thereby accept the death of colleagues of your own kind, for they are dying for a greater cause, namely for the advancement of your technology, which as a result is being put into place once again for the purpose of war, i.e., for negative pursuits.
Now, one can give you.
The benefit of the doubt that only the least number of your kind have any knowledge about these alien projects, which are, as you explain it, top secret.
It was told to you that the higher the ordinal or ranking number of basic matter, the simpler the heightening of the condition, but that is only partially correct.
If you can't circumvent these powers, then you're better off not attempting it.
But your kind has always been ignorant and has, from time immemorial, tried to play around with forces which you have not even understood.
Why would that ever change?
Just a little bit of Lacerda casually talking down to us, which, you know, can't blame her.
All right, we're going to talk about the copper fusion business here.
This is a topic that was brought up by a few of you who, you know, didn't really understand why copper was necessary here and how the fusion process worked with, you know, the heavy elements that you would need just an insane amount of energy to make that happen.
We're going to get into that.
I don't much understand it myself, but maybe you guys can help me out.
You remember this business of copper fusion?
By means of the fluctuation at the right angle with the induced radiation field, copper is fused with other elements.
The illusion of matter is fused.
The fields in the sphere of influence overlap each other, but the main force would be reflected by that process and would assume a quasi bipolar character.
The resulting connection in the field would therefore not be stable in the normal condition of matter and unsuited for tasks.
As a result, the entire field spectrum is shifted to a higher plasma like condition, whereby The spectrum comes together with this harsh shifting to the opposite pole side, the word is not correct, of the force field, and it resembles quite closely a gravitational shift.
This shifting causes a tilting of the repulsing quasi bipolar force, which now no longer flows to the interior of the force field, but rather flows partly to the exterior of the field.
The result is an inter stratifying reflective force field, which is very difficult to modulate.
With certain technical boundaries in relation to its own characteristics.
It can also carry out a multiplicity of tasks, for example.
Okay, so hold on.
I don't know what to make with sort of any of this.
My feeble, meager mind will not comprehend what is being told to me here, so I will be enlisting the help of ChatGPT.
There's some complicated math going on here, or science, or physics.
Can you please dumb it down for me as if I was in grade seven?
About advanced technology, like those used in UFOs, that can create powerful energy fields.
These fields are dangerous and hard to control, leading to accidents when people experiment with them.
The text also mentions a process where copper is combined with other elements using a special energy field, which changes how the material behaves, almost like using magnets to change metal properties.
Additionally, these energy fields can make objects float or become invisible, and they might even allow things to pass through solid objects under the right conditions.
Finally, it suggests that what we see as reality might just be a surface illusion, with everything being part of a much deeper and complex universe.
Does that help clarify things?
Unfortunately, yes, it does.
So that's interesting because a lot of what was said there, and we'll keep reading this last little part here, but a lot of what was said there is kind of been repeated.
Okay.
Now, I went to the South by Southwest premiere of Age of Disclosure, and in that documentary, Hal Putoff, a famous physicist who's worked with the government for a long time, and Eric Davis also.
Talked about the propulsion system in layman's terms.
And it resembled a lot of what we're hearing in this text, namely the part where once you create this shift, you can travel essentially through solid objects.
Now, we see transmedium crafts or we hear about them entering and exiting orbit and our atmosphere and going into water.
But what that also means, if they can travel frictionlessly through water and air and atmosphere, they can also do that through solid stone or metal.
And that is wildly, wildly perplexing.
It can also exert a camouflage function in the realm of electromagnetic radiation as well as manipulate temporal sequences of events.
Indeed, only to a very limited extent and other things as well.
Are you familiar with your quantum tunnel effect?
Even the amplitude equalizations among genuine matter can be achieved with one of these kinds of fields if its frequency and the distance from the plane of the field are high enough.
The whole thing that I have explained to you in your words has come out to be rather primitive, I'm afraid.
It sounds rather strange and certainly impossible for your comprehension, but perhaps this simple explanation can be of some use to you in helping you to understand.
But then again, maybe not.
Yeah.
No, I still had to run it through ChatGPT, Lacerda.
You are absolutely correct.
But also very convenient that you're like, I can explain this, but you'll never understand it.
And there's no way that I can really explain it to you for your meager minds to comprehend.
You know, also a really good way to sort of get away with just talking about some BS, you know?
Question Is there a scientific substantiation for paranormal powers, as for example, with your powers of thought?
Before we get into this, my hypothesis is going to be the manipulation of this feldraum or this quantum field and access to that quantum field.
I think time doesn't exist there, neither does space.
And so, if you have access to that, you can probably have access to essentially the Akashic records.
Answer yes.
In order to explain that, one has to acknowledge the physical reality of the sphere of influence, the Feldraum.
I'll try to do it.
Wait just a second.
You are going to have to separate yourself mentally from the illusion that which you see is the true nature of the universe.
It is, at best, the surface of a side.
Imagine for yourself that all the matter here you, this table, this pencil, this technical device, this paper does not really exist.
But that it is rather only the result of a field oscillation and a concentration of energy.
All matter that you see, every creature, every planet, every star in this universe, has an information energy equivalent in the sphere of influence, which is located on a main field, the general level of things.
Now, there is not only level one, but several.
Last time I had mentioned that highly developed species, which is capable of changing levels, Which is something completely different from the simple bubble changing, for bubbles are a part of each and every level.
Do you understand?
Dimensions, as you call them, are a part of a solitary bubble.
Bubbles or universal foam are a part of a level, and levels are layers in the sphere of influence.
While the sphere of influence acting in the capacity of a single physical size is essentially unending, it is composed of innumerable information energy layers and general levels.
There are in the sphere of influence no null levels.
All are the same, but they are separated by means of energy conditions.
I notice that I am confusing you now.
I think I ought to stop with this explanation.
Thank you.
Thank you, Lacerda.
I appreciate this.
And no, I was completely following all of that.
But, you know, I understand if the other mortal minds, you know, who are paying attention might not be capturing everything that you're saying.
Question No, please continue.
Great.
How do concrete paranormal powers arise?
Okay.
This is interesting, though.
The bubble stuff, the layer stuff, like the planes of existence, it is cool that not only is our reality made of physical and non physical, that the non physical layers also have.
Layers.
So the non physical realities aren't the only realities either.
Like that's just such a hard concept to even comprehend when the only thing that we can barely comprehend is the physical.
Well, okay, then let's try something simpler.
It is not completely correct, but let's begin in this manner.
Tangible matter on this side is mirrored in the sphere of influence, the Feldraum, as a field with distinct layers.
These layers contain information.
As an example, About the simple structure of matter or the string frequency, but also there is stored information stemming from the development of matter.
Are you familiar with the human concept of morphogenic fields?
One part of the layer could be designated as such.
Now, there is still another intermediary layer for which you, unfortunately, have no human concept since the theory is not common in human thinking.
Let's call it a para layer.
For this layer is mainly responsible for everything which you call.
Psy and paranormal, and which lies outside the boundaries of your primitive science.
The paralayer lies between the layers of matter and the morphogenic layers of a field in the sphere of influence.
It can actively integrate with both.
Your body, for example, is mirrored as a field in the sphere of influence, the Feldraum.
I love this idea.
So, what's really interesting here is that we're saying, okay, there's a mirrored reality, one which is.
Physical sort of information, among other things, and one that is sort of this non physical interpretation of the physical, like they're mirrored.
And, you know, I've had several out of body experiences.
If you haven't looked at that documentary that I did about the whole gateway process that I did, I went out of body probably half a dozen times and, you know, saw myself laying in the bed.
But the room that I was in, although was my room, was slightly askew.
There were elements in the room that Appeared larger, smaller, closer, further, fuzzier, just in weirder locations, but it did seem like my room, although there were slight differences.
And so, even in Bob Monroe's book, he mentions that this other reality is like an 80% match to ours.
So, I do think that this is really interesting that we're talking about some type of like mirrored reality that isn't quite exact.
That doesn't mean that it does not also exist here as well as flesh, blood, bones.
In the form of matter strings or atoms.
But not only that, existence is always a duality.
Some layers of the field contain simple information about the solid matter of your body and its frequency, while other layers contain information about your spirit, your consciousness, or speaking.
From a human religious point of view, your soul.
Awareness or consciousness in this case is a simple energy matrix divided into different layers of your field in the sphere of influence, nothing more, nothing less.
Genuine awareness can also exist here on the matter side, but only in the form of post plasma, the fifth form of matter.
With the necessary physical knowledge and the corresponding technology, the consciousness slash awareness matrix, or soul, can also be separated from its field.
Of rest.
It can, despite its removal, continue to exist in a self sufficient manner for a certain amount of time.
That has the strange occult name of soul robbing.
But above all, we're talking about science here, not about magic or dark forces.
Okay.
So here's a comment by Ola K.
He comments on the soul robbing because it was in quotations.
And he says the soul robbing was mentioned in one of the radical religiously motivated comments in the connection with the reptilian species, soul robbing.
But back to your question.
Creatures with more powerful mental powers can have a direct influence on the paralayer by means of their consciousness/slash awareness fields.
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Now, this layer is not only limited to the individual, but rather as a part of a general information layer.
You could call it, in a prosaic sense, the community soul that is connected with all animate and inanimate matter and all consciousness which exists on this main level.
Okay, so this is what I refer to as like the quantum field, where You know, information is stored and we have access to.
So, that is this paralayer, this psi layer that exists between the sort of metaphysical, you know, consciousness and the physical state.
Between those, is this paralayer where all information flows through and is connected to both, which is why we might have access to it through meditation.
And then it can interface with both, you know, the physical and the non physical.
I really like this idea.
You know, if you looked at reality as three layers, you would have the, you know, physical, let's say the conscious realm here, this, uh, paralayer, and then this like greater consciousness, this greater awareness universally.
To access consciousness or that greater awareness, you couldn't do it through the physical.
You would have to do it through this para layer, which can potentially be accessed through out of body experiences or meditation or kundalini or perhaps even psychedelics.
And so there is that interface.
Like if you want to bring information from this consciousness, this You know, omnipotent, omnipresent consciousness into the physical realm, you would have to do so through this pair layer, which I think is really interesting to think about.
The biological cause for these abilities lies on the side of matter.
By the way, in the pituitary gland, which always in the position to generate the frequencies to actively control the sphere of influence, the feldraum, even you people could theoretically do this.
However, you are solidly blocked in these things.
As I've said, the pair layer can interact with the mind as well.
As with matter, for example, if I decide to use my mental powers once more in order to move this pencil, then simply said, I imagine in my mind how my consciousnesslash awareness expandslash amplifies itself on the matter side in the form of post plasma to the pencil.
In the sphere of influence, this causes simultaneously an automatic command from the consciousnesslash awareness layer to the pair layer to interact with the matter layer of the pencil.
Since the paralayer is not confined to the body, it is not even a problem that the pencil lies over there, for I can unerringly reach it, even without moving my matter body.
Post plasma on this side, paralayer on the other.
I have control over the pencil, and the interaction brings the matter field of the pencil to the point where it changes in the manner in which it moves.
For example, here's a note, a comment by Ola Kay.
I certify that the pencil mentioned above abruptly at that very moment jumped into the air of a height of 20 centimeters, then fell back to the surface of the table.
The sound is clearly heard on the recording tape.
No one visibly had touched that pencil.
I would give anything to listen to this tape, by the way.
Let's take a break here for a second and just think about, digest about, you know, sort of what was just said.
So you need to affect the fifth.
Solid state of the pencil, the plasma field.
And what are you doing?
You imagine in my mind how my consciousnessslash awareness expands and amplifies itself on the matter side in the form of post plasma to the pencil.
Okay.
So my consciousness needs to expand and create this post plasma.
How do you expand your consciousness and awareness?
How do you amplify your consciousness and awareness on the matter side in the form of post plasma to the pencil?
I'm trying.
I bet all of you right now are trying to do this with a pencil on your desk.
Yeah, I don't quite understand that.
Maybe, you know, through deep, deep, deep, deep meditation or some type of deep, you know, relaxation process, we might be able to attempt such telekinesis.
Question That is fascinating.
Which kinds of paranormal activities can one generate with that?
Yeah, what superpowers do we have within us, Lacerda?
Please enlighten us.
Answer.
All kinds, everything that you call paranormal.
As I said, this special layer lies in the sphere of influence, the feldraum, between the morphogenic information layers and the matter layers, and can interact with respect to both sides.
That is to say, it can be interacted with solid matter as well as with mind or mental information, wherewith we can achieve everything that is generally designated as telekinesis and telepathy.
Okay, so basically saying that if you have access to this.
Paralayer, you are able to do all of the telekinetic or telepathy or anything Psi ability, maybe even pyrokinesis.
Maybe, maybe not.
I don't know.
Where do we draw the line?
The connection absorption with another consciousness slash awareness is generally separate in the procedure from the simple influence of matter, since different consciousness slash awareness fields work with different oscillations.
A consciousness slash awareness that sends or a consciousness slash awareness that listens.
Must first adapt itself to the other mind exactly before any access is possible.
Most species also have chances to block the alien access, but you people don't have this.
The following is generally valid The stronger the paranormal abilities of a species, the simpler the adaptation and the access.
Our own abilities are not so powerfully developed.
Therefore, first we have to learn specifically alien mind influence in order to use our mimicry.
For example, where mimicry Is actually quite simple in your minds due to the implanting of the on off switch.
Some of these abilities are also partially inherited.
Mother and child of my kind, as an example, are attuned exactly during the first months of life, partially also in the egg covering in the expectant mother, and communicate telepathically.
In order to influence you people, we need a certain amount of time for practicing, despite your simple structure.