Chris Ramsey analyzes a whistleblower's account of a 2018 government project involving five-foot, ridge-headed non-human intelligences with artificial brain lattices. The text alleges these entities, potentially crypto-terrestrial or future humans, suffer malnutrition when separated from crafts and are exploited by human hubris rather than malice. Ramsey critiques inconsistencies like the term "extraterrestrials" and the auctioning of crafts, while the speaker emphasizes that nuclear war threatens their millennia-long goal of seeding Earth. Ultimately, the discussion suggests these beings act as biological drones for cosmic evolution, warning that humanity's resistance could force direct intervention despite the public's resilience to eventual disclosure. [Automatically generated summary]
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1992 Triangular Ship Encounter00:02:48
My encounter took place in 1992 with my father and older brother.
We were outside my brother's house in York, Pennsylvania, and we saw a triangular ship fly over, and it had two fighter jets near each rear corner trying to force a landing, is what my brother and father said.
It was a triangle, it wasn't a stealth fighter like everyone tries to say that it was.
It was very confusing.
Thanks.
Welcome back to another episode of Debriefed.
I'm your host, Chris Ramsey, and today we are going to be taking a look at yet another supposed alleged whistleblower who's come forward with some secondhand knowledge in this case of UAP, NHI, and the government's role in all of this.
This text might be filled with red herrings, it might be filled with misdirections, and who knows, it might even be a PSYOP.
It might be counterintelligence meant to.
Divert us.
But it's definitely something we're going to look at together.
And I highly encourage you guys to chime in.
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Hmm.
Quick little sidebar.
Thank you to all of those who've been calling in.
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You only have a minute.
I've contacted them.
They won't allow me to have more time on these answering machines for some reason.
If you can't get your story out within a minute, please call back and add another minute.
I will string them together seamlessly.
But we do appreciate all of the callers that have been calling in with their sightings.
They've been fascinating, but a lot of you have been getting your stories cut in half and you didn't call back.
Applying Anthropology to UFOs00:06:06
And just a little Tidbit of information for you.
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Let's get into it.
So, folks, this showed up on Aliens on Reddit one year ago.
In lieu of looking into the EBO documents, looking into the 4chan whistleblower stuff, also looking into Immaculate Constellation, we're going to take all that information that we've gathered so far and apply it to this to see if we can find any other commonalities.
It starts as follows Introduction.
Please note that I will be vague in some places about any identifying information, credentials, locations, people, procedures, etc.
I don't want to be identified and harassed.
I have a professional background in anthropology already, possibly a red herring.
He even said this.
He said credentials.
I also have some informal experience in philosophy, which unexpectedly ended up being the most useful of my skills on this project.
Previously, I worked for a university in the western United States.
For cultural reasons, students and faculty at this particular university are more likely to be selected for sensitive government work.
I suspect that I was selected because of my low profile, my squeaky clean history, a lack of any drug or alcohol use, my broad range of skills and knowledge related to human civilization, and some connections that I have in academia.
My most significant work has been in ethnography and cultural anthropology.
Okay, let's break it down.
This, after reading a few of the comments on Reddit, does sound like BYU.
BYU is the university in Utah, predominantly, I guess, if not exclusively Mormon.
Now, I have a lot of Mormon friends, my management team, pretty much all Mormon.
You know, the one thing you can notice about this Mormon culture at BYU is the lack of drugs, the lack of alcohol, the lack of partying.
It really is just about like family and business and hiking.
Like that's what they get into.
They're very squeaky clean, you know, very honorable.
People to work with, in my experience.
And so I think that's what this person is referring to.
And, you know, I wouldn't put it past the US government to look for certain people who have those type of qualities.
Obviously, you don't want someone who's unhinged and partying, you know, to be involved in such a secretive department of the United States government.
So, it does make sense that they would recruit them out of BYU.
Interesting.
However, this could be a misdirection.
This could be a ploy to get us to look one way, when in reality, this guy goes to a school in California.
Like, we don't know.
Also, the anthropology thing and ethnography, I believe to be a little bit of a misdirect because the amount of people working in these projects is probably, they probably keep the teams very small.
They're probably not hiring a dozen professional ethnography and cultural anthropologists.
So, my guess would be that this is a red herring.
Maybe he worked with an anthropologist that he didn't like, and he's like, I'll just.
All right.
Why Reddit is the next paragraph.
I'm sure you're wondering why I'm posting this here instead of sending this information somewhere more important.
Since the UAP hearing happened and other whistleblowers have come forward, I felt safe enough to speak out privately.
I don't know how useful my testimony was, and I felt like it was brushed off, as I'll get into later.
I don't have any documents to hand over or any first hand experience with UFOs or ETs.
I do have trust in our institutions to do their job, come to the right conclusions, and eventually begin disclosure.
I have hope that the truth will be widely known in the near future.
I wasn't interested in or involved in the UFOslash alien phenomenon prior to starting my work.
As the work progressed, I became convinced that there was something very real behind all of this.
And now that I'm released from the project Ufology, Has become a special interest of mine.
I think now is a good time to put my story out there.
Okay.
I guess this is providing him with some personal catharsis.
Is that enough of an answer to put out there?
You know, I'm trying to put myself in a position of someone who's been, you know, groomed essentially to work at one of these secret facilities with this sensitive information.
If you're coming in from an outsider, I do understand how this can pull you in to becoming a fan.
Of ufology and following, you know, much of what's gone on.
If I have significant valuable proof or evidence or proof that this stuff is real, real proof, I myself might take a look back in history and start digging through the older cases to try and find these commonalities, not unlike what we're doing right now.
So I do understand his interest, his sparked interest in ufology.
I think that makes sense.
However, the reason for coming out and saying these things, maybe he did feel like once David Grush got up there and started speaking about biologics, crash retrieval, NHI, it took the pressure off him.
Maybe he didn't feel so targeted like he would be targeted if he put this out there.
And so it made him a little at ease.
Speculation only.
I'm just going on top of the dome here.
The work.
In early 2017.
This is, uh, I mean, 2017 is also a notable year for, I think, UFO disclosure, isn't it?
Okay.
I was contacted by one of my connections at the university who urged me to apply for a position in a special research project, claiming that the project needed someone with my experience, the pay would be good, and that they would help me get in.
Security Concerns and Paradigm Shifts00:08:05
This individual helped me apply and gave me a rundown about what to expect from the hiring process.
The process involved an extensive background check, applying for a security clearance, several interviews, and training for security communication and working with sensitive information.
Going through the rat maze took several months, but I made it through much faster than anticipated and was finally ready to actually begin working in early 2018.
Okay, so no stranger to rigorous tests and hoops that these facilities or these programs make you jump through.
I believe it was the last one, the EBO geneticist or microbiologist that spoke about having four interviews, one of which was like a scientific one, and then the following ones were more, you know, with government officials and less scientific.
I was apprehensive on my first day of work.
I had jumped through all the hoops and still didn't know what the subject of research was.
I didn't feel comfortable with all the security.
I'm not on the spectrum, and while I'm good at masking, procedures and bureaucracy make me confused and nervous.
The workday began by entering a secure facility where my identity was verified with ID and biometrics.
So maybe a facial scan or an eye scanner.
After passing through, I would go to my workplace and have to pass through another layer of security.
In the workspace, we were monitored constantly and subject to random security checks.
Now, this is something that Bob Lazar has claimed as well when he was at S4.
You know, he would have random security checks done by security officers who were familiar with him, who knew him by You know, a first name basis, they would still shake him down and ask for his credentials just to keep that state of constant alertness and fear present.
Very strange, but I guess a psychological tactic that these agencies have potentially, you know, relied on to keeping their secrets.
The workspace was a medium sized set of offices where I and six other researchers worked, one of which was assigned to train me.
Each of these researchers had different backgrounds and were assigned to a different part of the project.
Again, why I think the anthropology comment, if this is true, would be an absolute red herring.
You know, if they all have different backgrounds, then, you know, you don't want to stick out with letting us know that you're an anthropologist.
Over the next few days, my trainer walked me through the research process.
It was then that I finally learned what the subject of the research was.
My trainer gently explained.
We were working with information about an exotic intelligence, meaning a sapient non human species Of unknown origin.
Our job was to take the information that had been provided for us from outside sources, sort it based on its content and usefulness, and in the end produce a comprehensive report that summarized what we know about this intelligence, with a special focus on its motivations and intentions.
This report could be used to brief elected officials in the future and even the public.
We were allowed to make certain assumptions in the report.
Such as that these beings and their motivations would be understood by humans and that the information we have is accurate.
I had endless questions and became distraught.
And I think they could tell because my trainer figured it would be best if I was given time to myself to read some of the material and digest the information.
As I learned more, the shock faded and my fear was replaced with curiosity.
I resonate with this.
I myself have gone through multiple, I would say, micro ontological.
Experiences.
My reality has been put into question from some of the things that I've read or looked into.
And at first, it does make you fearful.
But I also, there's also, and I'm sure a lot of you can really chime in on this.
You're fearful, but then you're angry.
And then eventually you become sort of nihilistic.
And then you become curious.
Then you become like, oh, this is fun.
Hence why, you know, I have this sort of entertaining, high quality production for these videos.
Because I do think that.
This is a good way to digest this type of potentially paradigm shifting information.
I think by attenuating, you know, the blow a little bit, using nice music, using good lighting and good editing, some funny jokes, we can add levity.
Yeah, just make the experience enlightening rather than fearful through the use of entertainment.
I'm getting sidetracked here, talking about myself.
Let's focus on what we're reading.
A lot of the work wouldn't be very interesting to the members of this sub.
The average workday consisted of going through security, getting permission to retrieve certain documents, then organizing and annotating the documents.
Much of the documents were only related to the subject in tangential ways and didn't convey very much of use.
In a sense, we were separating the wheat from the chaff and getting the material ready to be used for the project.
After finishing, we would secure the workplace and leave.
Over the months that followed, we slowly built up a corpus of useful documents.
Information.
I obviously do not have the report with me and it's been a while, but I will now relate to you the most important information that I can recall related to these beings.
Feel free to ask questions.
Note that I worked the most on information related to their society and motivations.
You know, if you were part of this project and you had some firsthand knowledge of this, perhaps you would mask that by saying it's secondhand knowledge.
You would dampen the Disclosure effect that you have, thus really separating yourself from the project.
You know, he's going to give us secondhand information, throw some sticks in our spokes, but perhaps this is someone who is a lot closer to the project.
It could also go the other way.
Maybe they're just a lot further than we think and they're speculating.
And even further, maybe they're making it all up and it's a LARP.
LARP or leak?
You decide.
Is that the new name of this segment?
Today, folks, we are joined for another episode of LARP or leak.
It is up to you, the viewer, to decide whether or not this supposed whistleblower is telling the truth or a big fat liar.
I digress.
Origins.
We know more about every other aspect of these beings than we do about where they actually come from.
We do have some tentative ideas and speculation, but multiple hypotheses, hypotheses, are still on the table.
As I'll get into later, there's good evidence that life on Earth and these beings share a common ancestor.
Our job is to keep an open mind and let the evidence lead the way instead of falling for our own pet theories or cultural prejudice.
Extraterrestrial hypothesis makes some sense, but it's not the only option.
During work, my colleagues often called them aliens or ETs.
In the interviews I've read, the interview subjects are vague, absurd, contradictory, or evasive when asked about their origins.
Perhaps this is because we aren't in a position to understand where they come from, or perhaps there are problems with communication.
Maybe they simply don't want us to know.
The idea of either crypto terrestrial or Extra tempestrial comes to mind, the Michael P. Masters theory.
So either they are a future version of us and can't tell us that for fear of damaging, you know, time space itself, or maybe they've been here all along.
Biological Drones and Skin Lattices00:14:50
Maybe they're underground and they don't want to reveal to us that there's a giant civilization, you know, right beneath our feet.
Fascinating.
But I mean, hold on.
This guy's saying they've communicated with these beings.
This is a first.
Maybe this is where the EBO scientist got his documents from.
Could these people have been briefed on the exact same documents?
Are these the documents that Bob Lazar also saw?
All will be answered in today's episode of LARPOR Leak.
Appearance and biology.
In regards to the appearance of the ETs, UFO mythology is dead on.
Okay, which mythology?
There's a lot.
Generally, they look like diminutive humanoids with large heads, reduced facial features, and very large eyes, which are sometimes covered in a transparent black film.
Earlier specimens do not have film.
Later specimens do.
Their average height is five feet tall.
They have two long arms and two legs.
They have three long fingers and an opposable thumb.
They have feet with four toes.
They may have fingernails and toenails, but not always.
When they do, they are mottled and dark.
They have no reproductive organs or anus, and they secrete waste through their skin, similar to how we sweat.
They ingest liquid food just like we do.
They wear clothing, usually in the form of a very thin blue or gray high collared garment, as well as boots.
Okay, few notable key resemblances to the other EBO expert.
Now, it is to be noted that that EBO expert did put his stuff out prior to this.
So, this could be a LARP based on that.
It could also be related.
Maybe they worked in the same department or facility.
This is a thought exercise.
Similarities we find.
Okay, they talked about the film on the eyes, which we've heard before.
He says four toes.
The other person said four toes as well.
They said two toes at first, but then when they looked through the skin, they saw it was like this sort of configuration.
The height, the arms, the lack of genitalia.
They said fingernails.
The EBO expert said no fingernails.
This person says sometimes fingernails.
Liquid food checks out and secreting waste through their skin is something that we've heard and again does comply with UFO lore.
Their heads are large, as mentioned before.
In some individuals, there are pronounced ridges on the head and upper back, which seem to relate to different kinds of implants in a way that is not understood.
As far as we can tell, every individual has an artificial lattice woven through their brain and nervous system.
I'll get into that later.
We're possibly potentially dealing with some type of biological drone.
You know, he says implants, but I have a feeling that these aren't technological implants, but more like a biological type.
No two individuals look exactly alike head shape, eye shape, and size.
The patterns and protrusions of the ridges and skin color may vary between individuals.
Wow.
That is the first time I've heard of this.
You know, we've heard of different types of grays, but we haven't heard of the differences between the grays.
Just as we'll find differences among the human race, you would assume that this race as well has their own notable, you know, tiny differences.
Maybe to us, they might all look alike, but to them, they can see and spot these differences.
Life on Earth and the ETs share the same kind of biochemistry.
They are made of cells, use DNA, proteins, etc.
They can be studied and understood with the same principles that we use to study life on Earth.
This is fed into speculations about their origins.
The most conservative hypothesis.
Is that they share our biochemistry because they also originate from Earth.
But there are other theories.
Life on Earth and wherever they come from could both be descended from a common ancestor.
Perhaps life everywhere in the universe shares the same biochemistry.
The striking similarities between their anatomy and the human anatomy lead me to wild speculation about whether the individuals we see are specifically designed to resemble humans in order to facilitate interaction.
Wow.
Wow, that's an interesting concept.
Like, what if the people who made these or the things that made these are so shockingly different from us that they had to create something a little more similar to humanoids to be able to interact with us?
Whoa.
I mean, they could have done a better job, though.
These things do not look like us.
There is a small collection of biological material that has been retrieved from craft that shares no resemblance to humans and defies.
Description.
This material is like a web of nervous tissue, which is interlaced into the structure of the craft itself.
Folks, we've heard about this before of these UAP almost being alive.
I remember when Stephen Greer had a disclosure thing and he brought one of the witnesses up that used to work at a test range that ran into one of these craft.
And he said when he touched it, it almost purred like a kitten and it like recoiled.
The craft responded to my movement.
This startled me slightly, but I took it and stood still.
By moving back and pivoting the nose away from my hand like a cat or a boxer, and it felt like a cat to me.
It isn't the first time we would refer to these things having a type of skin.
And I believe Lockheed Martin is actually working on some type of external dermis that these crafts have that actually allows information to travel through, which helps give them sort of stealth ability.
They'll be able to grow or make a structure.
That says, is the skin of an aircraft that inside of that is also contained the sensors or the energy storage or many different multiple functions.
New materials that are on the lab bench right now can literally change shape on command, they can become almost a muscular material.
We could have an airplane that optimizes its shape for the different flight conditions.
Did we get that type of technology from NHI?
You know, that's another good question.
Also, the angel hair theory and the dripping, you know, that Lou Elizondo talks about, that Chris Bledsoe talks about, you know, this might also be part of the conversation.
Technology.
Before I mentioned an artificial lattice, which is integrated into the nervous system, the lattice is at the heart of their technology.
It interviews with subjects.
Interviews?
Is that the right word?
They demonstrated the ability to communicate with and detect the presence of.
Others of their kind in the same facility in different rooms.
Tools retrieved from the craft would be responsive to the touch and intentions of the ETs, but would be totally inert in the hands of human operators.
This lattice is probably what makes these abilities possible.
It is made of ordinary elements like copper and aluminum, and there is no discernible reason why it should be able to do what it seems to do.
This is highly, highly interesting and extremely strange.
The 4chan whistleblower.
Upon arriving on the scene of one of these crash retrievals, they would retrieve and strip the craft of their tools and all the loose ends.
And he did mention that there was some type of psionic interface with some of these tools.
So, again, we're seeing that here.
And now we're making the connection between these nodes found in the brain of these EBOs or these beings, this hardware perhaps that they have, these protrusions that seem to interact again with their technology specifically.
So, it forces me to believe that they are not.
Evolved to interact with the craft or each other.
It seems like this evolution has been forced genetically.
What if we can do that?
You know, we're literally talking about a biological version of Neuralink here.
What if we can genetically alter our DNA to be able to interface with technology?
It sounds like something out of a sci fi movie, but when you think about it, we're always trying to reduce the bandwidth between our intentions and what we require from the technology, right?
At first, we would have landlines.
Eventually, we develop, you know, satellite technology, Wi Fi, 5G, and then.
Inevitably, a chip in our brain.
But if you could reduce the bandwidth even more, you would do so on a genetic level.
So, this is a natural progression, I think.
You know, it's kind of interesting to trace it back because, like, this does seem to fit the sort of extra tempestrial, like, these are future beings of us in some way.
We were allowed access to documents that describe the capabilities of their craft as well as eyewitness encounters.
But we were not allowed any data that would explain how their propulsion systems work or about.
Anything regarding the reverse engineering of the craft.
The reasoning behind this is obvious.
The special interests involved have begrudgingly begun to accept that disclosing the existence of the intelligence is necessary over the long term, but the one thing they refuse to do is relinquish their monopoly over exotic technology.
No surprise there.
I don't have much insight to give about the craft because the project focused more on the extraterrestrials themselves, their society, and implications for our society.
Now, he says extraterrestrials again here.
When he himself said some people in the project refer to them as extraterrestrials.
That's just a bizarre little way of putting it.
You would think somebody who is paid to keep an open mind wouldn't refer to them as ETs or extraterrestrials, would refer to them more of like non human intelligence.
Maybe not a red flag, but like an orange one.
The craft had a wide range of appearance, size, and behavior.
It seems like each craft is designed for a specific purpose.
Every craft is different, but they can be grouped based on shape and purpose.
There are some edge cases that won't fit into this neat categorization.
I mean, 4chan whistleblower, you know, we talked about it.
That guy.
Clearly stated, and this is a, I think, probably the most important thing other than having this mobile construction unit controlled by AI living in the ocean.
I think building these crafts to spec fits the bill just so perfectly.
It is the reason why there's a variety of them.
It is a reason why possibly some of them are manned and some of them are unmanned.
It's a reason why, you know, they have different functions, so they would have different shapes.
And that really stuck out to me.
Because, why else would there be just a ton of different crafts?
Are there a ton of different pilots that look different?
Are they aware of each other?
It would make much more sense if this was all from the same governance or the same entity.
Kind of like, you know, we have Boeing's helicopters, F 16s, you know, drones.
We also have a plethora of craft that are occupying the skies that have also a wide range of use.
There are hundreds of objects in orbit that are likely created by this intelligence.
At first glance, they look like.
Commonplace space debris, but on rare occasions they will move in a way that is not attributable to gravity, meet with another object, or expel an object.
Tracking these is very difficult, and we know very little about them, including their size.
It's interesting that he says we know very little about them, but he's also aware that this isn't his department.
You know, saying something like that is so definitive, it's so factual in the way that he said it.
We know very little about them, almost as if he's Putting himself in a category of people who know a lot of things.
Like, that's something you need to definitively know if you're going to say that.
But he'd also just admitted that these things were highly compartmentalized and that he wasn't privy to a lot of the information.
So, how could you, in the same breath, say, We know very little about them?
That seems strange to me.
I would also be cautious of that.
Like, if I were in his position, I would say, I know very little about them.
Our department knows very little about them.
But I wouldn't speculate that we as a whole know very little about them.
You know, either that or this person's just very naive.
The most commonly seen objects are large reflective orbs or pills that move at high speeds.
Usually they are only seen for a second, but on other occasions they follow aircraft, hover over sensitive locations, looking at you, Jersey, UK, Langley Air Force Base, move in strange, illogical ways, and even suddenly disappear.
At night, these orbs sometimes emit orange light.
Although other colors can be seen, these objects have been seen submerging into the ocean as well as other bodies of water.
To me, this is seeming more and more like a LARP.
He's pulling a lot of things.
It's hard to tell because if the 4chan whistleblower was telling the truth, this guy just seems to be echoing what the previous 4chan and EBO sort of whistleblowers have been saying.
He's not really provided anything new.
And so this could, in my opinion, be a LARP based on a LARP even.
Like something that somebody invented, and this guy is just like playing off of that, riffing off of that original LARP.
Or they could both be telling the truth, or the first guy's telling the truth, the second guy's lying.
But if the first guy is lying, this guy is definitely not telling the truth.
We know that.
So if you can prove that any of the previous ones were LARPs, then that automatically proves that this is a LARP.
But again, speculating because on an intelligence level, when you're putting disinformation out there into the world, a lot of times 90% of disinformation is truth.
And only 10% is disinformation.
Like, I can read all of this to you and then say, oh, and there's Nazis on the moon with lizard people.
And then immediately you'll throw the baby out with the bathwater.
So, interesting thing to keep in mind.
There are egg shaped craft, which move in more predictable ways, although they move much faster than man made aircraft.
We were allowed to have a lot of information related to these.
Unitary Consciousness Hypothesis00:15:47
These craft are most likely to fail, and they are manned.
Biological material and even living organisms have been recovered from these craft.
These are the most interesting to me, as they contain occupants, living spaces, and large rooms full of equipment.
We speculate that these are surveyors or scientists.
In one particular case, a craft of this kind contained samples of Earth biota.
There are no control panels or any kind of obvious mechanism for controlling the craft.
This kind of craft has unfortunately become more uncommon over time.
Again, we're echoing a lot of the things we read about in the 4chan whistleblowing the specific sort of lab craft that crashed, but also the fact that they're less common, like they're learning from their mistakes.
The classic flying discs and crescents have the greatest presence in popular culture, but they are not the most common object.
These are speculated to be stealth vehicles that are used for reconnaissance and research.
On many occasions, these have landed completely empty.
That pertains, I think, to the donation idea.
Like a lot of these crafts were purposely given to us intact.
Okay, the interviews.
This is the part I'm very excited about.
Because of my past work, most of my work on the report was related to actual interviews that had taken place with ETs.
They were retrieved from crashes, but also from landings, where the craft seemed to have landed on purpose and the beings came voluntarily.
Reading these was very surreal, and I expect the context of these interviews is a part of the reason for so much secrecy.
The way that they were treated was inhumane and very unethical.
Did they happen to land on Guantanamo Bay by any chance?
The ETs have a very close relationship with their technology.
They cannot survive very long while separated from their craft and from each other.
They can't eat anything other than a special kind of liquid food, and human made substances were not sufficient replacements.
Throughout their stay on Earth, They would suffer from malnutrition and a kind of toxic buildup in the body.
Because of how valuable they were, every effort was taken to keep them alive and conscious, even against their wishes.
The situation reminded me of the case of Hisashi Uchi.
Okay, who is Hisashi Uchi?
Hello.
35 year old Hisashi Uchi and two other workers were purifying uranium oxide to make fuel rods for a research reactor.
They were handling uranium directly.
And as a result, they inadvertently triggered what's known as a nuclear industry as a critical accident, a release of radiation from an uncontrolled nuclear chain reaction.
So, this person suffered a slow death of 83 days of radiation sickness due to his exposure.
And so, he's comparing it to that.
Very interesting.
Sad, if real, you know.
This reminds me of some of that alien interrogation footage, which maybe eventually we'll dive into here.
But here's a clip it's this alien as they're talking to it.
Seemingly having some type of respiratory attack, and they quickly jump in to try and deliver some type of medical procedure or, you know, helping this being stay alive.
There's been a lot of speculation that this video is authentic.
Who knows?
But just sad to read about nonetheless, you know, something suffering like that.
Something that deeply frustrated me was that they seemed to want to show us so much more, but because of the irresponsible behavior of the program, they could not.
They were separated from their craft permanently so the craft could be hauled off elsewhere and auctioned off.
And so that the program would have total control over the interview process.
Because of the separations, the ETs would slowly die.
Do you think that that might be a trigger mechanism put in place by whoever's creating these ETs?
If they were ever captured or held captive, that the separation would, and even the fact that they couldn't eat anything on Earth, like if you were to make something that should be able to sustain life.
You would also make sure that it could eat whatever it's, you know, living in.
So, this all might be part of that hypothesis that they are ephemeral, disposable beings, but have consciousness nonetheless.
So, it still makes it very disturbing.
Communication would take place through telepathy, they can read our thoughts and send thoughts and impressions into our minds.
However, this takes a lot of concentration on the part of the interviewer, and communication would break down.
As the health and consciousness of the subject declined, the interviewer and the ET would communicate telepathically.
Then the interviewer would say the exchange out loud for it to be recorded.
You know, this brings the telepathy tapes to mind.
I don't know if some of you out there have binged this series by Kai Dixon.
Big recommend.
I'm not going to say any further, but do your research, do yourself a favor, go listen to the telepathy tapes.
I'll leave it at that.
Society and motivations.
From reading interviews with detained subjects, I and other researchers were able to put together a rough picture of how this species works and why they are here.
Instead of having any kind of formal societal structure, these beings form a dynamic superintelligence that is a composite of all of their minds.
Reproduction doesn't take place biologically, instead, they are artificially created, with each one designed for a specific purpose as their society has need.
The intimate interlinking of their minds causes them to behave as one superorganism.
Rather than individuals.
So we're dealing with a hive mind.
One conclusion that this original poster is jumping to is that they are making themselves, which I think is an interesting leap.
I definitely see this as beings who are being created by something else that is far superior to these beings.
Because if you could genetically alter things, I don't think you would make them so ephemeral.
I don't think you would make yourselves so ephemeral.
That doesn't make sense to me.
So, this right off the bat, for me personally, is a red flag.
I don't understand how somebody who's an anthropologist, again, probably isn't, could say that, yes, yeah, they make themselves this way.
They make themselves this way and attach to their technology.
No, you would do the opposite.
You would make sure that you could survive in any condition.
To get into why they are here, we have to understand their philosophy.
Philosophy is a human word made for human contexts, so it may not be appropriate to use that label, but I will use it anyway.
They have a monistic reductionist ontology, which bears heavy similarities to cosmosychism or objective idealism.
This is a guy who supposedly has dabbled in a bit of psychology and yet.
Off the bat, we are seeing psychological jargon that dwarfs any anthropological talk that he just previously made.
So we know that this guy's probably not an anthropologist.
My gut feeling is that this guy might have studied psychology at some point and decided to maybe write this whole thing.
That's what my gut's telling me.
But again, could be true, but I'm keeping a skeptic eye on this because so far, again, he's provided pretty much near nothing.
To the conversation.
He's simply regurgitated information that's already been out there.
And I want to break this down because I'm not sure I understand these terms as clearly as maybe I should.
Monistic reductionist ontology, which bears heavy similarities to cosmo psychism or objective idealism, period.
Please break it down for me as if I'm in grade six.
Monistic is the idea that everything in the universe is made up of one kind of thing.
I knew that.
Reductionist means that breaking things down into smaller and smaller parts to understand them.
Okay.
A monistic reductionist.
Okay.
Ontology is a study of things, of what things exist and what they're made of.
Yeah.
What's real and what is it made of?
Okay.
So, a monistic reductionist ontology.
Everything's one, but it's all made of little parts.
Okay.
Cosmosychism, I don't understand.
So, what is this?
This means the universe or everything that exists is cosmo.
Okay.
Psychism, this idea that consciousness, like thoughts, feelings, and awareness, is a basic part of the universe.
Okay.
So, exactly echoing what the EBO scientist was saying.
And then objective idealism, that reality is shaped by ideas or thoughts or consciousness.
You know, everything's one.
Power of the mind, even Hermeticism.
You know, this does sound a lot like Hermetics.
I like how ChatGPT breaks it down for me here.
Monistic reductionist ontology everything is made of one type of thing and we can break it down to understand it.
Cosmosychism the whole universe might be like one giant brain or mind.
Objective idealism reality is shaped by our thoughts or consciousness, not just physical stuff.
And this is true for everyone, not just inside your head.
Okay.
I concur with all of this, and that's pretty much where I'm at in my current baseline.
Of defining reality.
As far as I can tell, their philosophy is naturalistic, but has some elements that could be misconstrued as religious.
They reduce time, space, and everything to the behavior of a single unitary consciousness, not to be confused with the superintelligence that I mentioned earlier.
This consciousness behaves entirely spontaneously without deliberation or forethought.
According to them, the minds of living organisms are parts of this consciousness that has looped in.
On itself, creating separation and individuality.
The process of evolution has caused some organisms, such as ourselves, to develop higher cognitive faculties and mental complexity, which allows for complex thought and self reflection.
Again, this apotheosis talk, which we mentioned in the EBO video, that we are these complex organisms attracting this field of consciousness, therefore rendering us even more complex and creating this feedback loop.
Our perceptions are the mental activity.
Of this unitary consciousness as it is filtered through our minds and presented in a way that is most advantageous to our survival as individual loops.
Okay, that we're the universe expressing itself and trying to, you know, have itself survive this reality.
We model the patterns of our observations as the laws of physics, but the laws of physics have no inherent existence except as the patterns of this universal mental act.
So the laws of physics that we observe are singularly.
Attached to our own perception of said reality.
They believe as life continues to grow and complexify, it will have an effect on the unitary consciousness that constitutes the universe.
As life proliferates and complexifies, it will cause it to attain higher cognitive functions and eventually reach self awareness.
Interesting.
So now we're talking about new stuff here.
Now he's saying that this apotheosis, this critical mass that we attain through accelerating our complexity genetically and inherently attracting more of this consciousness, that when it reaches that level, the universe or this unified field will become conscious of itself.
They believe that the universe is already blindly striving towards self awareness and complexity.
And they seek to move it along, so to speak.
That is their goal.
And it's presumably why they're here on Earth.
They are guiding the development of life on this planet to help serve this end.
That is so dark and almost dreadful, but so interesting that we are part of this living organism that is all, but itself is behaving erratically and is slowly, through our understanding of the universe and our growing understanding, Complexity of consciousness, it is also learning and growing and feeding off of our experience.
So we are it expressing itself, but it is us due to those expressions.
I have no clue why they are so motivated to move toward this goal or what the actual implications would be if they succeeded.
It also leads to other questions.
If any of this is true, time itself is merely a construct created by this unitary consciousness.
So, how could it change and develop?
How does this universal consciousness fragment into individual minds, and what relationship does this have to biology and the origin of life?
They are not afraid of dying because they believe that death is just a process where individuality breaks down and the mind unloops and becomes reintegrated into the unitary consciousness.
They believe that memories and life experiences are reabsorbed into the consciousness during this process.
Perhaps this is the mechanism that allows it to develop.
As we just talked about.
Whether or not this is true, it seemed to bring them a lot of peace during their tormented final moments.
Even in death, they served their purpose.
Wow.
So, I see how this can be conflated as almost a religion that they seek to, yeah, just to sort of amplify this universal field of consciousness and that they've played their part in sort of mining consciousness.
Their philosophy shapes the way their society is organized in profound ways.
They have intentionally designed their technology in a way that integrates the mind and obscures individuality.
They do not fear death and even embrace it.
When they have fulfilled their purpose, they have a positive attitude toward living organisms and ecosystems because the flourishing of life is integral to them achieving their goals.
However, they do not respect individuality and they see individuals, including themselves and species, as expendable in the service of their goals.
In the interviews, they voice concern with the impact that humanity is having on life on this planet, but also see us as a step in a process of complexification.
They are definitely monitoring how life is developing on this planet.
And it is very probable that they are subtly manipulating it to serve their goals.
The similarity between their biology and ours makes me wonder whether they seeded Earth with life to begin with.
Maybe this planet has been their project from the beginning.
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A theory that I've kept close to my heart for a very long time.
I do believe that that is a good hypothesis, and that if they were to do this with the technology that they have available to them, if they are not from this Earth, then they are also doing this on Earth.
Perhaps an uncountable amount of planets.
But if they are indeed crypto terrestrial or from Earth, then maybe we are the only, you know, experimentation.
I don't buy it.
I don't buy the idea that they would make themselves this way.
I do buy the idea that they were programmed to think this way by another being that is just of superior intelligence.
That would make more sense to me.
He ends by saying my thoughts on disclosure.
I've been keeping up with this topic for a while now.
And despite recent events, I feel very optimistic about disclosure.
This isn't the kind of thing that can be kept a secret forever.
They are here to stay, and a secret this large can only be kept for so long.
None of the information, at least none that I learned during the project, is anything that would threaten civilization or cause mass panic.
People are much more resilient than that.
The cat is clawing its way out of the bag, and I don't think it's going to be forced back in without tremendous effort.
The important thing.
Is that ordinary people like you keep putting up resistance and support whistleblowers?
I hope that the report I helped to write eventually gets out to the public.
Me and my coworkers put a lot of effort into writing it.
Hold on.
Okay.
So, what a twist at the end.
The whole time I'm thinking this is a single person, but apparently this was done collectively.
That doesn't sit well with me because, again, there are some terminology that he uses, like referring to them as extraterrestrials.
I think if you were a collective of people, you would have caught that out.
And refer to them instead as non human intelligence, unless you know for sure that they're extraterrestrials.
Also, we skimmed over this.
Auctioning a craft?
Excuse me?
To whom?
What type of auction?
A silent auction?
Probably.
Very, very bizarre thing to throw in there and not elaborate on.
This person had to have been aware of the previous leak.
He's familiar with Reddit.
I mean, familiar with clearly multiple leaks.
If it's a LARP, that doesn't mean the previous ones were also LARPs.
If it's the truth, it automatically means the previous ones were the truth.
But if it's a LARP, it also doesn't mean that the other ones were the truth.
They could also have been LARP.
So that's where we're at.
I'm keeping an open mind for this stuff.
I'm trying not to box myself into thinking that this guy is full of it, or these people are full of it.
I think the one piece of knowledge that was really interesting was really toward the beginning in the recruiting process of the BYU students, I thought was really interesting.
Yeah, so somebody says here, this is BYU in Utah.
Mormons are overrepresented in the MIC and security clearances because they generally don't drink or do drugs and have strong sensitivity to taboo, social stigma, and can't be blackmailed easily.
And the phenomenon aligns with the many worlds Mormon philosophy.
And they often have families which are useful for collateral.
Wow, I didn't think of that.
That's dark.
But yeah, threatening one's family would definitely keep them from talking.
This guy had his account banned for some reason.
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When describing them, you seem to strive away from calling them a hive mind.
Is there a reason for that?
Great question.
I don't call them a hive mind because in fiction, the hive mind usually has a top down association.
There's a leader of the hive that imposes its will on its minions.
This is different.
And I think it would be insulting to refer to them as a hive mind.
They still have individual minds, they're just deeply connected to each other and to their technology.
Okay.
I mean, that would be consistent with being telepathic.
You know, you would collectively.
Be aware of each other's thoughts.
Next question.
You assume one of the reasons the government is keeping quiet on the topic is because of how aliens were treated inhumanely.
You then go on to describe a race of beings that don't seem to care about individuality and have superior technology.
Could the reason for their inhuman treatment be due to prior inhuman encounters with civilian population, abductions, etc.?
Answer.
They don't care about individuality the way we do, but they are not overtly malicious as far as I can tell.
The inhumane treatment of the extraterrestrials was because of hubris and greed.
The first priority is to get the craft hauled off to be studied.
The extraterrestrials are separated from their craft over long periods, which causes them to suffer.
That being said, I do think that abductions happen.
They study all life on this planet, and that includes us.
But I don't think the cruelty toward our visitors was born from vengeance.
And last question, and I know people will hate that I'm asking this, but from your opinion, if our race doesn't want to be part of their cosmic religion, what would you expect to be the outcome if we resisted?
Yeah, where's the consent?
I don't think they care to convert us to their philosophy.
All that they care about is life on this planet to keep proliferating and moving forward.
If we become a barrier to this goal, they will intervene.
They prefer to take the subtle approach, but if we become a bigger problem for them, they might have to take a more direct approach.
This all makes sense.
Question Any mention of nuclear?
Answer They are definitely concerned with nuclear weapons.
As I mentioned before, they are concerned with the impact that humanity is having on life on this planet.
If we had a nuclear war, a lot of damage would be done that would set their project back.
And, you know, I kind of agree with this because if they've been here for a long time let's say, thousands of years then this would be a worthwhile investment, right?
You'd want to keep this investment a little bit under control here if you're going to put that amount of Time and effort and energy into something.
You mentioned UFOs are auctioned off.
Did you mean something else by that, or are various businesses competing for these vehicles?
Answer When I said auctioned off, I was being a little hyperbolic.
I don't know that much about the process of how craft are handled and studied, but I'm sure it's a political process.
The main point is that the extraterrestrials are separated from the craft, which causes their condition to deteriorate.
Most of the interview subjects were from landings, not crashes.
Okay.
So, yes, a new piece of information there.
That's interesting.
Okay.
Quite a lot to chew on.
There's an expression you'll never hear one of these grays say.
What have we learned so far?
I think the key takeaways here are A, the recruiting process, using people from potentially BYU does make a lot of sense to me.
And plus, you're already in that area, right?
Isn't that, I mean, that area is pretty much deserts and underground bases.
Technology interfacing with their consciousness.
They've been tampered with genetically individually to communicate with not only each other, but their technology in different ways, whether it's the tools on the ships, whether it's the ships themselves, and the ships themselves also have this webbing, this neural network that interfaces with these creatures on a level that sustains their existence.
And so, you know, to me, how sad is it if they create themselves this way and that their whole existence relies on feeding consciousness?
It sounds maybe it's just a human concept because we're further developed emotionally, I guess, but like it doesn't sit well with me that you would create yourself in this way, even if you did know the answer definitively, even if what they're saying is an objective truth of the universe, that that is what's happening.
You still can't ignore feelings.
You still can't ignore, you know, how things make you feel and experiences and expression.
So to me, it seems like these creatures were created without that, without the need for that, which makes them better at their job.
So, do the people or entities creating these biologics have the need for expression, or are they also bound to an existence that relies entirely on?
Mining the collective consciousness of the universe.
Lots to ponder.
Nothing like a little light read early in the morning to get my existentialism going.
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