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March 3, 1999 - Bill Cooper
02:01:58
Theatre of the Mind
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the world.
I'm William Cooper.
You're listening to the Hour of the Time.
I'm William Cooper.
Good evening, ladies and gentlemen.
We're going to have a little fun tonight.
We're going to have a little fun tonight.
Like last night, we're going to sort of travel through time.
Back and forward and in between.
And we're going to sort of get caught in some warps here and talk a lot about radio.
We may even take some calls later on.
But I want you to be sure and put yourself in the mood. Sit back once again like you did last night,
close your eyes, because we're going to visit some of the golden age, the
history of radio, and we're even going to do some current sort of stuff. You didn't know I was a
DJ once in my life, did you? Well, I was.
I was when I was a teenager.
When I was 16 years old, I was a disc jockey on the Armed Forces Radio Network, Japan, and I had a program called Radio Teen.
And we had a hookup between all the teen clubs in Japan, too, so when I wasn't doing that, Doing DJ stuff back in the corner of a little closet type room in the Grant Heights Teen Club.
And hundreds of teenagers all over Japan were dancing to the music that I spun on my little machines there.
It was a lot of fun.
That's all I said.
A lot of things that got myself in deep trouble.
And I got kicked right off the air.
But I had a great time.
How many people do you know ever had a chance to be a disc jockey at the age of 16?
And on my show, Radio Teen, on the Armed Forces Radio Network, I had millions, many millions of listeners.
All over Japan.
Because the Japanese listened to the Armed Forces Radio Network also.
And I'm sure the Chinese did.
Because it reached way into China.
Although I'm sure that it was jammed somewhat.
We played the very best of what back then was called rhythm and blues and rock and roll.
So sit back and relax.
We're going to sort of relive some years gone by.
And we're going to have a lot of fun.
At least I am.
I hope you will too.
Kitty Station to Observation, we have a song coming through.
So if you're sick but the radio's at work, we'll fill your lungs for you.
You should never pay for a fix, so don't get out of your alley.
To my show, I think.
What's the poll?
She likes Rudy's bags.
It's true.
Rudy's the mole.
That's enough.
He's better than you.
What did you say?
No, he's not the one.
Yes, he's mine!
I'm gonna get you!
I don't know about you folks, but I grew up on the radio.
When I was a boy, I never saw a television set.
I knew they existed, but I never saw one until I think I was about seven years old.
A neighbor several doors down in Long Beach, California had a television set, black and white.
My parents used to haul us down there to watch Spade Cooley.
And I don't remember what night Spade Cooley was on, but we watched Spade Cooley.
And that's all we ever watched.
And then we trucked back home, children in tow, and listened to the radio.
The radio was it then.
It was the greatest thing you can imagine.
Because that's the way we escaped from the real world.
Like people get lost in television today, We would get lost in radio, but with a difference.
In radio, we could use our imaginations.
And so, when we were listening to the radio, everyone was picturing something different in their own mind.
It was incredible.
I don't know if you can appreciate the incredible sensation of lying in bed late at night, the lights out.
Sometimes a little street light beam coming through your window, sometimes moonlight,
sometimes so dark you couldn't see anything, not even your own finger right in front of
your nose. And then, you would hear in the darkness.
An unbelievable tale of mystery and suspense.
And the whole thing took place in your mind, really.
You were hearing the words, but the story was in your mind.
It was unfolding.
And you saw the characters and the scenes, the automobiles and the trains and the ships, I remember one memorable night when I shared a lighthouse with some people who were stranded there during a storm.
The lightning flashed.
The wind blew.
The shutters crashed against the windows and ripped off.
The glass broke.
And we were terrified.
Absolutely terrified.
And then we could see in the storm-tossed waves a ship coming toward the rock upon which the lighthouse was perched, and we thought we were going to be rescued.
It was an incredible feeling.
The waves were crashing so high that we thought the lighthouse would be consumed in the water, torn from its foundations and washed into the sea.
We thought we were going to drown.
And we could really hear the wind howling.
We could see the waves.
And then in the lightning flashes, we could see the ship.
At times, it would rise way up into the air on the crest of the waves, and then it would disappear, and we couldn't see it as it went down into the trough.
And we held our breath, hoping that it would come back up.
And keep moving toward the lighthouse.
We wanted to be rescued.
That was our only hope, you see, because this was the worst storm ever experienced.
And even though it was unsafe, terribly unsafe...
Thank you.
To run down the stairs into the lower levels of the lighthouse, where the water had broken out windows and seeped in under doors and was washing about inside.
To open the door was unthinkable!
Unthinkable!
But that's what we did.
did. Because when the ship got close, if there was any possible way for us to get on that
ship, we were going to do it. And it kept coming closer, and the wind kept howling,
and the sea got higher and higher and crashed against the lighthouse, and every time the
waves crashed against the lighthouse, the whole structure shook and strained and groaned.
Thank you.
And we feared for our lives.
Then, when the ship was only about a hundred yards from the lighthouse, we ran down and threw open the door and ran into the storm, holding, balancing precariously upon the rocks.
The ship came closer.
We could see that the masts were torn and ripped and the sails were Flapping in the breeze, huge holes torn in them from the wind, and we could see no one upon the decks.
But then we realized there was no one aboard the ship.
At least that we can see until it crashed into the rocks with a terrible, deathly sigh.
And we ran to the ship to see if there was something, possibly anything, that we could use to put around us or to get into in order to stay afloat when what we feared the most happened when the lighthouse was torn from its foundations and washed into the sea.
And we could see dead bodies on the deck.
But these were different.
These bodies were different.
These bodies were torn up and chewed upon.
These bodies were various states of having been eaten.
Oh, you can't imagine.
The terror that raced through our hearts.
And all of a sudden we heard this terrible noise.
Scratching noise and crawling noise and squealing.
Then up from the bowels of this ship came a rat.
And then another rat.
And then yet another, and another.
There were tens, and then hundreds of rats, and then thousands.
And we ran into the lighthouse and slammed the door behind us and began to pile things up against the door.
And we ran up the circular stairs up to the light.
And we looked down and we could see that all of the rocks were covered in the dust.
We're covered with the rats and the waves would beat against the rocks and wash hundreds and thousands of them into the sea and they would swim frantically and scurry back onto the rocks.
We could hear them gnawing at the door downstairs.
We could hear the lighthouse shaking and vibrating and groaning with every crash of the waves.
And then we heard this loud.
Scratching, squealing on the stairs, and we knew the rats had penetrated through the door.
And now, they were seeking shelter in the lighthouse, and they were looking for food.
I was petrified.
I pulled the covers up over my head.
As children always do when they see monsters in the dark.
Or they feel their beds shake from the whipping of the tail of the dragon beneath their bed.
Or they look up in the moonlight streaming through the window and they see the shadow of a man standing in the corner of their room.
They pull the covers up over their head.
And that's what I did.
Because I was scared.
And those covers were going to save me from whatever it was that lurked.
That lurked in the darkness.
And what was lurking in the darkness was a terrible storm.
Seas a hundred feet high.
Unbelievable crashing force against the lighthouse and rats, rats scurrying up the stairs.
And then, and then, oh!
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Is it great to say hello to all of you?
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Love, love, never could be enough. You can't keep from me, my love, I'm gonna leave you,
but every for a dime, you can't beat the cream of cigar.
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Walter Winchell's famous column appears in the New York Daily Mirror and other newspapers from New York to Honolulu.
He's here with Flash News, odd news, exclusive news.
Life across America and all the ships at sea.
Right last night on Halloween, America was shocked.
This morning, Wall Street entrepreneurs were jumping out of windows.
What?
What's it?
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Thank you.
We know now that in the early years of the 20th century, this world was being watched closely by intelligences greater than man's.
and yet as mortal as his own.
We know now that as human beings busy themselves about their various concerns,
they were scrutinized and studied, perhaps almost as narrowly as a man with a microscope
might scrutinize the transient creatures that swarm and multiply in a drop of water.
Don't forget to tune in next week for the continuing saga of
War of the Worlds.
Now ladies and gentlemen, stay tuned for the upcoming...
Oh, you've never heard anything like this.
We have a new broadcast.
And everybody is just dying to get involved.
Literally.
Oh Martha, isn't this just a wonderful day?
Oh, Jim, are you still going off on that terrible trip?
Yes, Martha.
I must meet the boys in old Hong Kong, you know.
Why is it always the boys, Jim?
Why always the boys?
Watch out!
Watch out!
Almost those horses are always leaving these strange little piles of things in the street.
Now, be careful where you walk.
Oh, Jim, you must think we are just such helpless creatures.
Well, my dear, you are.
I'm sorry.
It's five o'clock out on the freeways.
Everybody is rushing home.
I can see the congestion from here.
Uh-oh.
Watch out.
Too late.
Boy, that Volkswagen, uh, he didn't last long at all.
For those of you, uh, trying to get through the downtown over and under and the cross change, uh, stacked on top of each other with the, uh, butter in between, I think you'd better take a separate route.
That's right.
Try, uh, 4th Street.
Through, uh, East Los Angeles.
Whoop.
Nope.
If you're white, you better not drive that way.
Uh, try, uh, try, uh, 2nd Avenue through Beverly Hills.
Nope.
If you're black, you can't take that route.
Let me see.
Gee, I guess there isn't any way that everybody can go.
Ah.
So, why don't we just park our cars And, uh, everybody get out and walk.
Ooh.
Wouldn't that cause quite a stir?
People be talking about that in the year 2046.
Maybe 2512.
2046, maybe 2500 and 12. If history lasts that long.
Drive time. You've all heard drive time.
I'm...
Every radio station in every big city has a drive time.
And they play this kind of music during drive time.
And they make silly little comments just like you heard during drive time.
Who in the world listens to that crap?
Well, if you're stuck in a car on a freeway, you don't have much choice.
That is, unless Dr. Laura's on.
And if you've got your notebook and your cell phone there, you can plug into the internet and look at her pictures in the nude while you're listening to Dr. Laura.
Radio has come a long way.
so so
so last night was one of the most wonderful nights in my life
I know you're sitting out there in the darkness, listening.
All you lonely people, this is the lonely show for all.
Thank you.
For those of you who have dreams of romance, I'm here to give it to you.
You see, I know who you are.
I've been there.
Last night, I had a most wonderful time.
I went out with two of my male friends.
We had quite a bit to drink.
And all of a sudden, things got really hazy for me.
I had a great time, and I'll tell you how I know.
I didn't wake up at home, and I don't remember what happened last night, but it was good whatever it was.
It was good because I woke up this morning at the breakfast table.
I don't remember what I had for breakfast.
I don't really think I had anything for breakfast.
All I can remember is that the girls sitting across the table from me didn't have anything on but a necklace.
I want to do it again.
I am techno, you know you know you know, baby.
Ooh, baby, baby.
Oh yeah.
Check it, sing it while I rip it, check it while I crack it.
Okay, give me a few seconds, I'll give a drop to every Jersey born and bred head.
So if you think it's worth a gift of chocolate, these jerseys going in redhead.
And everybody in New York, we're going next to Redhead.
And everybody in New York will brew next to redhead.
Who got my back?
Who got my back?
Now tell me, who got my back?
Frankie got your back.
Come and get me.
Tell me, who got my back?
Who got my back?
The Bronx got your back.
Tell me, who got my back?
Who got my back?
Krumpy got your back.
Now, who got my back?
The Feds got your back.
Thank you, Africa, back in, do the beat, give a shout out to my brother L-A-N-G-E.
Thank you.
Africa, I'm back in.
Do the beat.
Give a shout out to my brother, L-A-N-C-E.
I've been having, practicing, killing, watching, over me, you know who's supposed to be forgotten.
Yuppin' Heaven, practice, killing, watching.
Over me, you know who's supposed to be forgotten.
Papa wasn't there, but there was Lance in the house.
Papa wasn't there, but there was Lance in the house.
And who's a man, honey, who's a man of the house?
It's only me and money who's the man of the house.
Always, trick or treat, back to the old days.
Always, trick or treat, back to the old days.
I used to rock it on the high tunes, days.
I used to rock it on the high tour.
I used to drink, boy, back in the day, you blaze.
Say, I used to drink, pull his back, tell him, this is lame.
Switched up the pipes, pushed the peak, peak, gave.
Duck low on collection, I walk low on.
Don't wick it out my booty, if so, ho on and ho on.
That's what we's about to do.
Say, you want to mess with the flames with you.
Me no deal with you, only me did this lip gloss.
I get mad when it comes to playing hip hop or chill.
Chill, I wanna like that style.
Just chill, I wanna like that style.
Yo, chill, I wanna like that style.
Yo, chill, I wanna like that style.
That bitch bein' on every hip.
He ain't so rich, he ain't so dim, boy.
Oh, listen, my brother.
You are listening to Black Revolution Radio.
All right.
All right.
And then, after scooting through the dial, Yeah, finally find what you've been looking for.
And, you know, God knows what that was because everybody is looking for something entirely different.
I found mine.
I'm out.
Because that's not really mine.
That's somebody else's.
Somebody else's was in the car with me.
This is mine.
And just stick around.
Listen.
Be cool.
Everything's fine.
Even if it isn't fine, everything is fine.
And I'll tell you why everything is fine.
wine because God made wine.
And Prozac.
Welcome ladies and gentlemen to the Prozac Hour.
Where everything is cool.
Oh, that just goes right up my spine.
Now that's mine.
That's mine.
There you are, Shirley. Shirley works in the future post office.
She doesn't, she doesn't watch the, the Rough Jacks.
I've got a feeling this is Shirley's too.
You're ready.
Get ready because the saxophone is going to go right through your neck.
It's going to wrap you around the table, but it's going to tie you in.
How you in wonderful minds.
This, this ladies and gentlemen is the kind of music that makes Randy just want to rub
against the transmitter at WBCQ.
Get ready.
Get ready.
Get ready, folks.
Get ready. Get ready. Get ready folks. I can smell a saxophone from a million miles away.
from a million miles away.
I'm going to be a million miles away.
I can smell a saxophone from a million miles away.
I can smell a saxophone from a million miles away.
the next video.
And that's it for tonight, folks, as you lay your head down on your pillow, and we fade off into the sunrise.
Yeah, you remember what that is, don't you?
Some of you.
Never saw the sunrise.
Well, I'm going to make sure that I don't see it.
So, for those of you waking up, I wish you the most wonderful cup of coffee that you've ever sipped in your life.
And for those of you going to bed, Okay.
Once I had a pretty girl, her name it doesn't matter.
She went away with another guy, now he won't even look at her.
And Dr. Mary, he broke your heart.
Just like his own life when you said we must part.
He told you, rise up, you're learning to fight, fight, fight!
Dr. Mary said goodbye to you.
I know this place on flames.
the the
You are so cruel, but you laughed at me when you left me.
And where does it come out, Shocko?
Glad you asked me that, Prompt.
The music comes out on... WSB!
The music goes round and round and round.
And where does it come out, Shocko?
Glad you asked me that, Prof.
The music comes out on...
WCWC!
Classical Radio.
And I think the time has come to try and give away some money here.
That's right, Jocko.
Now, folks, if you were listening to the Appleburton Evans show this morning, you know what today's Classical Quickie Quiz question is.
And if you weren't listening, well, maybe you'll get lucky.
I've got someone on the line now, and, uh, ma'am, if you could just turn your radio down.
Yeah, but, no, no, the thing is that when your radio is tuned to the station you're talking to on the phone, you get feedback.
It's not?
Well, could you turn it down anyway?
She's going over to turn it down.
What, does she live in the Taj Mahal?
Wait a minute, wait a minute.
Here she comes.
Okay, what's your name?
Yeah, Brenda what?
Brenda Tharlson.
And where do you live, Brenda?
Inkster, one of my favorite towns.
Okay, Brenda Tharlson from Inkster, North Dakota.
Here is today's Classical Quickie Quiz question.
How much would Domenico Scarlatti have weighed on Jupiter?
That's right.
How much would the 18th century composer Domenico Scarlatti have weighed on the planet Jupiter?
That's okay, take your time.
Okay, Brenda, you got it?
No, I'm sorry, that is not the correct answer.
No, that's how much Alessandro Scarlatti would have weighed on Jupiter.
We're talking about the younger one, Domenico.
Too bad, Brenda, but don't worry.
All is not lost.
Just for talking to us this evening, you are going to receive, absolutely free, a pair of WTWP Wall-to-Wall Pop-a-Bell Classical Coasters.
Now, these little beauts are suitable for use with glasses containing hot or cold beverages.
And they're just our little way of saying thanks.
Thanks, Brenda Farrelson, for talking... What did you say?
Ho, ho, ho, ho, listen to who's calling who a loser.
I do too.
Shinola is a shoe polish.
Yeah, well, same to you, you old bag.
Boy, I'll have no fury.
Oh, don't worry about it, Prof. We'll see when we get back to the music.
Good idea, Blondie.
And I've got a very interesting little tidbit to throw in here.
The original first movement of P.D.Q.
Bach's choral cantata, Knock, Knock.
Apparently, PDQ changed his mind later and wrote another first movement, which is the one I used, of course, when I recorded the entire work a while back there.
But just for the historical heck of it, here's the original.
Droppin' straight down on ya!
from WTWP.
Thank you for watching.
I never knew what a day it is to have a friend like you.
You're clear out of this world When I'm looking at you I rear out of this world The music that no mortal ever knew
You're clear out of this world when I'm looking at you.
You're right out of a fool The fairy tale I read when I was blind
No armored knight out of a fool Was more than standard by a lord of light
Than I am After way too long for the right time
After reaching so long for a star.
All at once found a long and lonely night time.
And despite that, here you are.
I cry out in despair.
I. Love. You. And.
Then the next.
The.
i will be your with you
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The inspired harmonies of the Moonlight Sonata set the stage for another concert of the world's most honored music, presented as a salute to Longines, the world's most honored watch.
The Long Jean Symphony, under the leadership of Michel Fiasco, will play a program of the world's most honored music.
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What's happening to you these days?
Having lots of fun?
Believe me, I know some folks that are in for some fun.
Those early bird friends of Annie's who've already sent for their new 1940 model Orphan Annie shake-up mug.
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Everybody needs to be healthy and husky the way we all want to be.
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Even though our regular price is 50 cents.
So, listen closely.
Here's what to do.
Slip right down after tonight's adventure, and print your name and address plainly on a piece of paper.
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Ask money to get you a can of sweet chocolate-flavored Ovaltine right now.
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Mail it to Orphan Annie, Chicago, Illinois.
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But if you do live in the United States, send in tonight!
Campbell's Soups bring you Amos and Andy, with Grover Whelan, President of the 1939 New York World's Fair, in person, in
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Now, what do you want there, Andy?
Oh, well, I was looking for Sapphire.
Well, Sapphire done gone out with Mr. Brown.
Mr. Brown?
Well, now, I got a... Kingfish, what's that there you're eating?
Well, that's a new product there.
it's called a goldfish soup you know so
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Oh no!
I forgot what I was doing.
I forgot what I was doing and it's the radio man's nightmare when all of a sudden something ends and you're not ready for the next thing and there's dead air space.
That's a no-no.
Oh, yeah.
That's a no-no.
Oh, yeah.
That's a no-no.
Oh, yeah.
That's a no-no.
Oh, yeah.
That's a no-no.
Oh, yeah.
to WBCQ, Monticello, Maine, USA.
Now, folks, that's enough of that nonsense.
We're going to open the phone.
And I'll tell you why it's enough of that nonsense.
I'm losing stuff around here.
I lost.
Just never mind.
I just lost it.
That's all.
And so we're going to open the phones and we're going to talk about radio.
We're going to talk about all kinds of radio for the rest of tonight's broadcast.
And so the number is 520-333-4578.
Did that bring back any memories for any of you?
Was it silly enough for you?
I had fun.
And I'm just putting the mic back down where it should be.
When you're doing some of those things that I was doing, you have to have the mic real close to your mouth in order for it to sound right.
Then you have to have the pot turned up so that you can get over the music.
And that's what I think I was doing.
I lost a CD.
I've got the CD cover right here, but I can't find the CD.
Now that just drives me crazy because it was right here in front of my nose.
Number is 520-333-4578.
I may have lost a whole bunch of CDs.
I don't know.
What is this?
Uh-oh.
No wonder I'm losing CDs.
I just put one in the wrong place.
520-333-4578.
520-333-4578.
Did you listen to radio a lot during your life?
Do you do it now?
I know that some of you are still doing it.
I still do it.
I'd rather listen to radio than watch television, to tell you the truth.
I know that many of the listening audience is exactly the same way, or used to be the same way.
Anyway, that's why you're listening to radio tonight.
That's why you have a short wave of radio, folks, because you like to listen to radio.
I want to talk about something else, also.
Did you know that they now have a method of emitting a handheld EMP burst and can stop your car engine because it runs with the help of computer chips?
Now, if they can do that, how many of you are listening to radios that have computer chips?
How many of you purchased the little Y2K radios that are supposed to get you through an emergency that have chips inside?
You didn't know that, did you?
What are you going to do about that?
You see, you're relying on these radios to get you through an emergency, and I'm telling you right now, if they can stop your car engine with a hand-held little thing like a radar gun, they can stop your radio, too.
Or anything else with computer chips in it, if they want to.
And in case of an atomic detonation or a hydrogen bomb going off, they emit electromagnetic interference, EMI.
And this can completely destroy computer chips.
Most people aren't aware of that and are not prepared for it.
Good evening, you're on the air.
Yes, I remember.
I probably got on the tail end of radio.
I listened to AFRTS on shortwave around 1965.
Following really what's going on much easier on radio than I do on television anyhow.
Well, we're sort of geared to that, aren't we?
If we're watching television, our brain can't work.
There is no room for the functioning of your brain.
Your imagination is not allowed to work, and you're more or less put into sort of a trance, I guess it is, and you're forced to sit there and absorb whatever they throw at you.
It's not the case with radio, is it?
No, it isn't.
In fact, you develop your intuition and your ability to conceptualize and imagine, and
I still listen to radio quite a bit.
I remember when I used to listen to radio in the early 60s and mid-60s, in short wave,
and trying to tune the ham radio operators in from the static and see how far you could
get.
And I remember listening to the Christmas programs on radio, the Scrooge.
I've never been able to get a good sound on the radio.
because I can always follow much better what's going on.
You know, you're still able to use your imagination.
You know that I have, right here in this studio, on tape, an entire baseball game from 1939.
That's exciting!
I think they do... I don't think they do justice to the various games and stuff.
They don't describe anything.
They talk about whatever they feel like, you know, and then they find out, oh, he hit a foul, or yes, that's strike
three, or strike two, or whatever.
He's sitting there wondering what happened, and they're talking about, you know, going to the 21st hole or
something.
That's true, and you know, I still find radio quite valuable.
A lot of the information I get on radio I get on the computer, but you can't, I don't think you can beat it, the
TV.
I think it provides a distraction.
I think there's a place for television, but I don't think that most television is being used in the way it should, actually.
I found a place for television.
I really found one.
I was out driving around one day and I was headed out from Eager along 260 up toward
Pine Top and there was a road that I'd never been down before.
So I turned right and I went down that road and it went down a little ways and then you
were forced to go around a bend and go left and then you went around this huge big pile
of volcanic ash, actually it was an old cinder cone from a volcano and back behind there
guess what I found?
What was that?
A dump.
That would be a place for him.
I think that they're missing the whole thing.
I think that television used it in educational purposes, in an interactive way, you know, or something like that, where it was probably given better resolution and a few things like that in educational or documentary purposes would, you know, would be okay.
But they did the same thing on radio, too, and I seem to find it much better.
You picture, you can visualize things, your ability to read seems to be better because you have to develop that picture.
It's the same thing on radio, I think.
Did you ever listen late at night to any of the old melodramas and suspense stories?
Yes, we used to listen to it.
I was in Colorado Springs at the time and they used to have various mysteries and they had a few murders.
Can you remember some of the names of those programs?
Oh, let me think.
Did you ever hear The Whistler?
Suspense?
The creaking door?
I remember hearing that one.
Anybody who's ever heard that one never could forget it.
I mean, from the very opening moments of the broadcast.
It puts you in a real spooky mood when you hear that creaking door opening and then the maniacal laughter of the Master of Ceremonies as he begins to spin the tale of suspense and mystery.
I loved it!
I don't even do that again.
I think you have better actors that came out of that too.
Your news was better.
I mean, it seemed better.
It seemed more together.
Listening to your program last night, I really marveled at the ability of those people to talk basically on their feet in an intelligent manner.
I mean, you know, most of the interview with Mr. Bankhead and then the other Republican minority leader there, they seemed to be able to And it kept you interested, didn't it?
You know, you hit something right on the head.
Do you know that the greatest actors and actresses that ever appeared on the big screen started out in radio?
It kept you interested, didn't it?
You know, you hit something right on the head.
Do you know that the greatest actors and actresses that ever appeared on the big screen started
out in radio?
Every single one of them?
Well, that's pretty interesting.
You know, I think that's a good thing.
I mean, I think that's a good thing.
Well, you had to convey something.
You had to convey a picture or you had to get someone thinking about it.
I mean, you couldn't see the train, for example, in front of you.
You couldn't see someone.
You can imagine, for example, a person at the train station leaving his girlfriend or his family or his friends behind, you know, going to the war and various things like that.
You had to convey that imagination or at least convey the atmosphere of it, I think.
How did I do on the lighthouse story tonight?
Did you hear that part of the program?
I don't know that I heard, but I was in eating.
If you don't remember, you didn't hear it, or else I did a terrible job.
I didn't hear it.
I was probably eating supper at the time, but I really certainly enjoyed tonight's program and last night's program, because you could see what was going on.
You can think about what was being said.
I think that radio gives you a lot of information.
Here's what I think.
Now, I could be wrong, and I might be wrong, but this is what I think.
I certainly enjoyed it.
I'd prefer to listen to radio any time now anyhow.
I wish they would get more programs.
I wish they would develop new programs for radio.
I think it would be, it's still a good medium.
I think, here's what I think, now I could be wrong, and I might be wrong, but this is
what I think.
I think if one powerful, really powerful radio station that could reach a lot of states started
I think there's a kind of a demand.
There would be.
There's kind of a need for that.
that station would gather a bigger audience than you could even imagine and they would make more money than they could
count.
Well, I think you're right. I think there's a kind of a demand. There would be. There's kind of a need for that.
I think people need to use their imaginations. And when people build their ability to, you know, develop an
intuitive concept, you find better readers, you find better students, and I
think you find better people that are as far as better thinkers.
You know, because sitting in a radio, listening to a radio is somewhat the same as having somebody talk to you in your
living room or your kitchen, you know.
And you don't have, they have to convey the same idea to you that the person on radio would have to.
And I think we're losing a little bit of that, I think, and I think radio would bring that back.
Yeah, I think it gives you a sense of closeness and belonging.
It lets you use your mind instead of sitting in front of some boob tube being mesmerized and put into a trance.
And it gives you a sense of comfort.
Even when you're hearing bad news on the radio, it's more comfortable to hear it on the radio than it is to hear it on the television.
Yes, I think you're right.
I think that, well, for one thing, you have a sense of hope.
You have a sense of confidence, or a sense of, what would you say?
I wouldn't say safety, maybe, but you get the feeling that, yes, we're going to be okay if we just stick together.
I mean, you don't get that feeling so much on TV.
No, television, in fact, makes me extremely nervous.
Now, don't get me wrong, I love to watch educational programs, and I love to watch a good movie sometimes.
And sometimes they're not the best movie in the world, but, you know, to me, they're good.
I like to sort of escape that way.
But I don't like to get caught up in that, and I don't like to see anybody get taken over by the television set where they cannot I know people who never talk to anybody else unless they're
at work because when they're home they're in front of the boob tube and they stay up in
front of that boob tube until they go to bed.
Yeah, that's kind of too bad.
I believe that.
It's really too bad.
I think the radio, you know the family can sit around the radio.
You can come in and if you hear a noise, you have to say, what does that mean?
If they're walking across the room or if they're doing something.
You have to be able to interpret that noise and you have to imagine what it would be or
the different sounds that went along with the various things that were going on.
You have to put that together whereas a movie or television, they're good things but the
radio is a good thing.
I think it's a good thing.
Well, I certainly thank you for your input and for your call.
I certainly enjoy radio. I really do. Well, I certainly thank you for your input and for
your call. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Yeah, radio makes me feel good.
There's something magical about hearing that voice come through this little box, and you can't see who it is.
You have to imagine what they look like.
And I can tell you right now, you never imagine what they really look like.
Never.
In a million years.
When you actually see them, they never, ever look like what you pictured in your mind.
Doesn't happen.
520-333-4578 What's been your experience with radio?
I love to sit in a room with a group of people listening to something on the radio and know that my experience is totally unique even though we're all listening to the same thing.
What's going on in each one of our heads is totally different.
You can't do that with television.
Television shows you what to think, shows you what to see, presents everything to you.
There's no room for individuality, no room for imagination, no room to think.
Good evening, you're on the air.
Hey, Mr. Cooper, how are you?
I'm fine.
You know what they used to say?
I collect old radio programs that happened since I was a teenager.
They used to say, back in the radio days, every family owned a color set.
You know the program you played yesterday, I believe I saw that advertised where they
had an entire, almost an entire day of radio programming recorded.
I don't know if that's where you got the one you played yesterday.
That's exactly where I got it.
It looked like it was going to be real interesting.
I was wanting to get it, I just hadn't sent away for it yet.
Well you know on that day, I think it was about a year and a half ago, on that day here,
September the 21st, 1997, beginning at 6 o'clock in the morning, I played that on this radio
station, 101.1 FM in Eager, and a lot of people thought that they were in a time warp or something
They got up that morning and heard an entire day from 1939.
And I didn't give him any warning.
I didn't tell him what was happening or anything.
Boy, did I get some strange phone calls.
Oh yeah, I love those little soap opera stories.
Yeah, all day long.
The Romance of Helen Trent.
Yeah, Mom Perkins was like the king of the east of soap.
Procter & Gamble presents Oxnard Hall's own Mom Perkins.
You're too young to remember that.
Oh no, I remember it.
I really do.
You see, my father was in the military, and so I lived most of my life in foreign countries.
And the Armed Forces Radio Network, wherever we went, would play all of those old shows.
All of them.
Do any of your friends collect those discs that the armed forces people used?
They were great big records.
I got about a dozen of them.
I've got two of them here.
And they're not serial programs or nothing, but they're...
What they are is movies.
you Movies?
Yeah, the ones I have.
Oh!
Yeah, speaking of movie actors, did you ever hear the James Stewart radio series, Slick Shooter?
Yes.
I mean, everybody knew who James Stewart was, but you could just, when he would do that program, it came, he was such a good actor at speaking, like you were talking about, you could right in your own mind see everything he was doing.
Yeah, I remember all of them.
I remember Saturday morning, Let's Pretend.
I remember the Lone Ranger, the Cisco Kid.
I remember Boston Blackie, Sergeant Preston and his Wonder Dog King.
Yeah, he's my man.
How old are you exactly?
I know you're probably at least ten.
I'm forty-five.
Exactly, I'm 55.
I'm 55.
Yeah, I can barely, I can only remember the serials being on when I was really small.
I don't remember all the ones you can.
And I remember when I was a little boy before I ever went to school, I remember my mom would
have the radio on all day when she cleaned house.
And that's when women really cleaned house.
I mean, my mom cleaned house.
She scrubbed the floor.
There wasn't a speck of dust when my dad came home anywhere, and she listened to those soaps all day while she was cleaning, and we played outside.
Well, yeah.
I mean, the families could kind of like have the radio going, say, in the evening when they were all home together.
They could have a card game going or something and still understand what the radio program is about, whereas on television, you can't really do that.
No, can't do it.
I noticed a lot of folks call in to the places that sell and collect and play the old program.
The blind folks really enjoy them because they can understand all the story where there might be in a television program, even if just a few seconds of something is left out or not described to them, they'll miss something important to the story.
Orson Welles nailed it when he said, it's the theater of the mind.
Oh yeah, he was pretty cool.
I mean, he was only 21 years old when he made those first panels.
Oh, he was a genius.
He was also, you know, working toward the New World Order.
He was very much involved in that.
I wouldn't be at all surprised about that.
I got this information police almanac, and it tells about how, you know, he made the movie about Citizen Kane, you know, and being about William Hearst.
Well, somehow, and maybe you know more about this story than I do, but William Hearst murdered a movie producer out on his yacht.
And this was in the 1920s or 30s.
Well, be careful, that's alleged.
Oh, yeah.
He was alleged to have murdered a movie producer on a yacht.
And I thought maybe that was what prompted those folks to make that movie about him.
No, they made it because it promoted Marxism.
Whether he was right or wrong about William Randolph Hearst, and whether Citizen Kane portrayed the media correctly or incorrectly, is not the point.
And the point is, is that Orson Welles was involved in changing the mental attitude toward
government and the established institutions in this country by waking up the common man
to the power that resided within them in order to bring us to where we're at today in this
wonderful democracy going into socialist New World Order.
Now, I'm not defending William Randolph Hearst or any of those people.
Sometimes the best way to tear down a bunch of wonderful great institutions is to single
out one that's bad and pin it on all of them.
Thank you.
Certainly, that's, you know, yeah.
And he was marvelous at doing that.
You know, something I heard you say out here, speaking of having ideas and stuff, something I heard you say years ago when you were on your other station, years ago, and I kind of took it to heart and it made sense was, and I get in a lot of arguments with folks over this, and I'll say, Well, if you don't believe what I'm talking with you about, and this is after I've gone and checked it out at the public library.
I said, go to the public library and read these publications these outfits have, and don't believe what I'm telling you, and take it as gospel.
Like you used to say on your program, don't take this man or that man or all the others' word as being gospel until you've gone and seen it for yourself.
I still say that.
Yeah, I got this one friend of mine, his family's all Notre Dame graduates.
He isn't even speaking to me anymore, but for telling him that.
Because some of the things we talk about and it's mentioned and discussed on programs like yours,
I said, hey, don't, you know, just take what those folks tell you or what I'm saying, go and find out.
And he gets, he's gotten offended and lets in a huff and won't even speak to me.
Well, you've threatened his comfort zone.
You see, he's comfortable in what he's been told is the truth, and he does not want that stirred up or shaken, because, you know, it might bruise the cocktail.
I mean, wouldn't you just be as happy in the world as you could be if you could wake up tomorrow morning and find out everything you thought you knew today about these things were all mistaken?
Absolutely.
I would be so happy and such a weight would be removed from my shoulders.
I would be delirious with happiness.
And that's what I tell my buddy.
I hope all you doggone Rebecca or Sonny Book Prime people are right because the specter of what's coming is going to be absolute.
When we lose our rights and freedoms they've been chipping and sanding away at it.
They're not going to stop either.
And they firmly believe that there's too many people living in this world and they've got to eliminate at least two or three billion of them, minimum.
Well, I've gone back and gone through the old foreign affairs magazines and stuff, and unless I would have seen it myself, there's no way to talk with you personally.
You couldn't have convinced me those folks, you know, actually believed that stuff.
But it's all there, isn't it?
No.
There's tens of thousands of publications.
You see, but most people never look beyond their own little world.
They don't read the publications of special interest groups that have agendas.
They just listen to their spokespersons and think that they're doing good for the country and for the world because they sound good.
And they don't really get in Beyond that facade, that public presentation, the public relations job.
And so they don't really know what's going on.
Yeah.
Why didn't we get off the radio subject?
I love those old... I got like three hours of them that we get around this area.
But we are on the radio subject.
We're on the radio!
I'm talking about the old radio programs.
Yeah, the program's always interesting.
I didn't want to call the hog up the entire night.
There's some other stuff I want to say, but that was the one that got me in trouble with everybody.
Well, you put them on the spot when you do that.
See, you're not telling them what to believe, and so they can't say, oh, you're just full of crap.
Now, you've put them on the spot.
You've said, okay, I've told you this, and you say you don't believe it.
Now I'm telling you, don't believe me, but don't believe anybody else until you go check for yourself.
And if you don't check for yourself, you know, what you're saying without saying it, and they get the message loud and clear is that they're stupid.
Well, I'll tell you a strategy these folks will use if you're conversing with them.
They'll yoke a statement, and then they'll try to prehence your intentions of what you said were entirely something else, and then base an argument from that.
Have you ever had someone do that?
Like, some of...you've had folks call you and try to say, well, you're anti-Semitic
or something, or you didn't even say something, or you'll mention just one Jewish person that
might be acting up and make it sound like you dislike everyone that's in that ethnic
group where there's...you don't mean that at all.
Or they'll take just a small...and try to make it sound like you have an entirely different
idea than what...and then base their argument from that.
Oh, they do that all the time.
In fact, that's a standard procedure for the Socialists, is character assassination by making unfounded accusations.
For instance, if you're speaking in front of a group and you're put on the spot, the unfounded accusation is made to you in an arena where you cannot really prove that it's not true, and so that everybody who was there goes away with this thought in your mind.
That you're anti-Semitic or that you're a racist or that you're some right-wing extremist bomber dude or something like that.
But I used to get around that really easily.
People would, like I would be a guest on a radio show and someone would call in and accuse me on the air of being a right-wing extremist, white supremacist, racist, anti-Semitic.
And then I would just calmly look at the radio host, and I would ask him, do you believe that?
And he would say, well, I don't really know.
And then I would introduce my wife, you see, and she's Chinese.
And so then I would ask him to describe my wife over the air, and then he would say, well, how do you know?
He's a white supremacist, anti-Semitic, racist, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And he would say, I know because I've seen him at these meetings, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And he would just bury himself.
And be totally discredited because I could not possibly be any of those things.
And be married to a Chinese woman, and even if I wasn't, I still couldn't be because I'm part Native American.
I'm not a white dude.
What nation is your family?
I've heard you mention that before.
It's one of the tribes of the Northeast that made up the Iroquois Federation.
There's no one left of that tribe of pure blood at all.
That's anti-Semitic.
I see they portray Indians, my family's all, well my mom's Jewish, but people look like
me, look just like me, and I don't even look anything like an Indian, and they just put
a dark makeup on them and expect folks to believe they're Indians.
That's anti-Semitic.
Huh?
You're an anti-Semite.
No.
You just, I heard what you said, that's anti-Semitic.
Oh, speaking of radio programs, I'm really sorry he's not on no more of the Larry King call-in radio programs.
Remember that one?
I don't like Larry King because he controls the button.
In other words, when you call this show, there is no screener, and there is no way to prevent anybody, or to even know who's on the phone.
I know what you're talking about.
His radio program, all of his calls were screened.
Every single one of them.
Just like Rush Limbaugh.
If they even suspect you're going to say something they don't want to hear, you never get on those shows.
You don't get on Larry King Live.
Oh, I didn't like it so much for the people that called as much as I liked for the honors and stuff you get on there.
Oh, you're talking about the guests, yeah.
Oh, you're talking about the guests, yeah. Yeah, and he could get them to explain about their books and stuff and
it would kind of give you a good idea whether you could even be interested to buy it or go to the library and get
it or, you know, he was pretty good at doing that kind of stuff.
Well, if that's the reason you like it, well, that's a good reason, but most of those broadcasts, anybody who makes it
big in broadcasting like Rush Limbaugh, Larry King, you know, any of those big syndicated people,
They make it big because the established power knows that those people aren't going to allow anybody to come on their show and say anything that's going to disturb the status quo.
Well, I know I called a big station in Chicago.
All the right-wing folks being after Bill Clinton.
This was about six, eight weeks ago, and I called the young guy that was screening, and I said, hey, why don't you guys go to your tape library there in Chicago and pull out that doggone debate.
You know, it was during the primary where Governor Brown from California, when he was running along with Bill Clinton, and they faced off there in Chicago.
I believe it was at WLS TV station.
And I says, get that doggone tape.
And see, and Jerry Brown really got dug into Bill Clinton about, you know, all various kinds of things.
He hadn't been nominated yet.
And I said, now, is that a doggone right-wing conspiracy?
I said, Jerry Brown is about as establishment Democrat as you're gonna get.
And that kid wouldn't let me get on there.
He, like, uh... Of course not.
He wasn't gonna let you say anything like that on the air.
And I'm not, uh... It's like, if... When Bill Clinton does something good, it should be, uh...
Even though I don't care for the man that didn't vote for him or anything in the primaries.
It has nothing to do with Democrat or Republican.
You and me understand that.
Just anybody with an open mind.
Any idea is good.
No matter where it comes from.
If it's a good idea, it's a good idea.
It doesn't matter who says it or who implements it or anything else.
If it's not a good idea, it's not a good idea.
And because you say it's not a good idea, it doesn't mean that you're some wacko out in left field or something.
That's where you get.
That's the socialist technique of discrediting the opposition.
They label you as something that they have brainwashed the public not to like.
Where did that doggone expression, they say Nixon was one of them to really get it started when he was a congressman, ran to be, they call it the whispering campaign.
Yeah.
You know, to where you just begin, just the aspersion of somebody believing or saying something or have done something.
And nobody really has enough gumption to go check it out for themselves.
Oh, they never will.
People love gossip.
And they love to hear bad things about their neighbors.
And they love to spread it.
Whether it's true or not, they don't care.
And if they find out ultimately that it's not true, hell, it was fun, wasn't it?
Yeah, nobody... They don't care who they hurt or how much they hurt somebody.
And the next rumor they hear, they're going to do the same thing all over again.
And they never checked.
Oh no, that's work.
That requires that they actually do something.
You know, I got a lazy streak as bad as anybody else, but I guess folks need it.
Most of their education needs to come from a teacher, an old teacher at our Catholic high school where I went.
My father, I got an Irish father and a Jewish brother.
I drank too much, but I bought alcohol wholesale.
Tell us, education isn't something we can't just fill your mind with information.
We're teaching you how to go and get it for yourself when you need it.
And I never could make that connection until I was an adult because I thought you go to college or high school or whatever just for them to show you what to do.
Where your own education and in all areas of your life needs to come from I think everybody in America should be assigned to their own personal nun.
And that nun should go with him everywhere.
Every time they start to do something stupid or ignorant, that nun should pull out her ruler and just smack him across the knuckles just as hard as she can.
I'll tell you what, those old teachers like that slap those n-words out of my vocabulary.
They slapped a whole bunch of stuff out of me.
They weren't nuns, but I remember my English teacher in high school, at Naramasu High School at Grant Heights, military housing area in Japan.
Her name was Dr. Florence Hay, and she was one of the most wonderful women I've ever met.
I've never, ever forgotten her.
She taught me English.
And the next greatest teacher I ever had taught me speech.
And that was my speech teacher, Mrs. Bale, and between those two women, they pretty much set me on the straight track, and that's upon the foundation that my grandmother laid.
But my grandmother really, really took care of me when I was little.
And she taught me to read, as a matter of fact.
Yeah, you know, you never forget good people, even if they smack your knuckles and make them hurt really bad.
I mean, you know whether it was for a good cause or a bad cause.
And I just hate to see all these children running around today with no discipline whatsoever, and they think the world owes them everything, and boy, have they got a rude awakening coming.
Well, a lot of it's, I don't believe their condition or the way their behavior is.
It's more of the parent's fault than it ever is of the...
Absolutely the parent's fault, and it's the school teacher's fault.
Bye.
These children get away with murder.
I mean, they get away with murder.
And I watched folks, and I knew I would raise children that turned out the way they are now.
My sister is the same way.
She's like 53, and she didn't want to have parents.
Not that she doesn't like them, but she didn't want them, and so she didn't have them.
I don't understand why these folks today, if they have no plan to Oh, you know the answer to that.
It was for a few seconds of pleasure in the back seat of a Chevrolet.
That's what it was all about.
It had nothing to do with being responsible or looking out ahead.
And guess what?
Oh, I can always have an abortion.
to that. It was for a few seconds of pleasure in the backseat of a Chevrolet. That's what
it was all about. It had nothing to do with being responsible or looking out ahead. And
guess what? Oh, I can always have an abortion. You know?
That's OK.
Even at our Catholic high school we were told, in this day and age, there is no reason for any... This was 27 years
ago when I got out there before. They said, there's no reason for any of you girls to be turning up pregnant in
this day... And this was at a Catholic high school.
Yes, there is, because they're taught that it's OK to have sex, and they're even given condoms to go and do it.
Why, but today, yes, it's entirely...
And they're taught how to do it.
When I was a boy, in fact, I'm going to tell you the truth right here on the radio, right in front of the world.
You can fake what you want.
I never had sex with a girl until I was, I think, 22 years old.
And I never knew anybody who did.
I knew a lot of guys who liked to say that they did, but I knew that they didn't because I knew the girls that they went out with.
And I never knew a girl who got pregnant.
Never!
Not once.
Now, I'm not saying that this didn't happen in some places, but it certainly didn't happen in any of the schools or the crowds or the places where I lived.
Oh, I believe you just didn't.
You know, there's a slight age difference between you and I, but, uh, yeah, it was, well, it was starting to change a lot when I was in school.
No, I graduated in 1961.
1961, August, I enlisted in the United States Air Force.
I was in the Air Force and the Navy.
10 years difference, right? And it was really beginning, and you were probably still in
military then, weren't you? Back then?
1961 August, I enlisted in the United States Air Force.
How long did you stay in? You were in different...
I was in the Air Force and the Navy.
And how long...
And when I got out of the Navy, I was going to go in the Marines.
Yeah, you were in until how long in your life?
Um...
I was, I received honorable discharge from the United States Navy December the 11th 1975.
Yeah, I mean I think the 70s really everything.
So from 61 to 75 I was in the military.
So from 61 to 75 I was in the military.
The reason I got out is I discovered what was really going on behind the scenes.
Yeah, that was a military coup.
They're all trying to blame it on Henry Kissinger or something.
when Richard Nixon resigned and stuff, encoded secret messages.
Yeah, that was a military coup.
They're all trying to blame it on Henry Kissinger or something.
That was a military coup engineered by the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
Yeah, isn't it strange that when the President got acquitted, one of the Watergate men died
that weekend.
Yeah.
Well, listen, we better let somebody else get in here.
I take back everything I ever said about you.
I like it.
Well, thank you.
That's the old hillbilly expression.
I know.
Well, hey, so long.
Let those other folks on.
I know.
You lift them up by the tail and you say, yup, it's a pig.
OK.
Thanks for calling.
520-333-4578 is the number.
Wow.
We had some good calls.
We had a good broadcast, I think.
I'm having fun.
I don't know about you.
The number is 520-333-4578.
Call us up.
Let us know what you think of all this.
Do you remember the real radio days?
I mean the real radio days.
There's very little real radio today.
Good evening, you're on the air.
Mr. Cooper?
Yes, sir.
Yes, this is Jack from Indiana.
Hi, Jack.
And I'd like to share a few of my radio experiences with you.
Okay, Jack, but try and talk a little louder, would you?
Okay, I'm sorry, sir.
Okay, I started the shortwave probably around 63 when I was about 10 with an old night kit.
And I remember listening to some old programs.
I don't even have my old logbook anymore.
I wish I did, but I remember listening to the first heart transplant broadcast of that in school.
John Glenn's so-called Launching Space.
I had a few rebroadcasts of The Shadow.
When I was in the Marine Corps, stationed down in Jacksonville, I would stay up late at night and try to pull in WOS on a Sunday night.
And this thing about these EMF or nuclear blasts or radios, I heard, I don't know if it's true because I never checked it out yet, about a safe box where you could put a radio in.
I'm not sure about this.
I've heard that too, but I don't know how to build one and I wouldn't know if it was built if it would really work.
Right.
Do I have some old tube radios and transistor shortwave radios out?
It won't hurt tube radios.
I don't know about transistors, but it won't hurt tube radios.
And that was my point tonight, is if you don't have some tube transmitters and tube receivers, shame on you.
Because when the Buffalo chip hits the fan, and they start, you know, popping these bursts and frying computer chips, these things aren't going to work.
Yes, that's correct.
I think your local cop, if he has one of these guns that can stop your car, if he accidentally pointed it at your house and pulled the trigger, it could just really wipe you out.
Yes, sir.
I've heard that.
I remember using CB radios with illegal amplifiers, stopping cars right on the road.
I remember when my grandfather used to have the old radio telephones in his vehicle.
Well, we're looking for an all-band transceiver right now.
We've got a Siltronics CB.
I have a radio, an old crystal radio that I built, trying to build.
I eventually want to build a transmitter myself.
But that's about it, Bill, you know.
Well, we're looking for an all-band transceiver right now.
We've got a Siltronics CB.
It's the 1110 Charlie.
And we've got an old Halicrafters S108 shortwave receiver that is just unbelievable.
Yes.
Yes.
It puts these Sangeans and everything else just to shame.
I mean, it is so sensitive and brings in such far away broadcasts that we can clip a Sangean to the same antenna and not hear a thing.
That's amazing.
And a Hammerlin and all that.
I had a hammerlin and a couple other kits that I built when I was younger and I had
to rework them after a time.
But I do have tubes in that and I had to get hot on that.
Well Mr. Cooper, thank you for your program and keep up the good work.
You're welcome.
Thanks for calling.
Thank you.
520-333-4578 is the number.
You're listening to I Woke Up One Morning, Turn My Radio On.
I heard a man's voice, coming on strong.
All about a contest he was having that day.
And the winner got a date with Dick the DJ.
Dick the DJ.
Dick the DJ.
The winner got a date with Dick Saget, he say He says, hey, my name's Dick
Let's get this straight.
You're the lucky lady with your caller number 8.
Well, I picked up the phone.
I didn't hesitate.
I said, Dick, Dick, Dick, am I caller number 8?
Caller number 8.
Caller number 8.
I could be the lucky lady if I was collar number eight.
You said you're collar number eight.
I'll pick you up at seven.
And you can start climbing that stairway to heaven.
So when you pick me up, we stay out till three.
Dick, we're sure the jock guy's potty feet.
The man for me.
The man for me.
Didn't we sure the job's got funny feet?
He said, time's up, sweetie.
I gotta go.
I'll be talking to you on the radio.
So he took me home.
I begged him to stay.
I knew I was in love with Dix the DJ.
Dix the DJ.
Dix the DJ.
I knew I was in love with 6 to D day.
Always boys come through so cool and clear.
I just love having Dick next to my ear, every day.
I turn him on, I've got Dicky on my mind, all day long.
All day long.
All day long.
I got him on my mind all day long.
Don't you love that laugh?
Dick it was and Dick it is.
Dick's the number one radio whiz.
North, south, east and west.
Everybody knows Dick is best.
Dick is best.
Dick is best.
Dick the DJ, he's the best.
Dick the DJ, he's the best.
Dick the DJ.
I'm not sure.
I love, I just love that laugh.
Oh, the laugh?
Yeah.
Good evening, you're on the air.
Oh, okay, Bill.
This is Dave calling from Sockchoppy, Florida, the placida of the universe.
Sockchoppy, Florida.
Yeah, real winter.
Okay.
Well, I was listening to that merchant seaman you mentioned.
Oh, yes, I know who you are.
Yeah, I was in the deck department.
Made one trip and we called it the stupid department.
That's the galley.
Uh-huh.
And then I went ordinary seaman.
That took me six months during the Vietnam War because the emergency.
Uh-huh.
Get my blue A-B's ticket.
And the reason I did because I looked at the engineers coming out of the engine room all green.
Used to make me sick just to carry a message down there for the captain.
Yeah, but they made more money than the captain!
Well, that's okay with me.
I didn't want to be down there.
That was a stinky, stinky, smelly, hot, terrible place.
It was like being in hell.
150 degrees in the fiddle-dee, we dry our clothes on victory ships up there.
That'll be done in 20 minutes.
But I've been listening.
You're very correct about two sets.
I keep an old national packed away receiver.
Uh-huh.
And I keep a 40 and an 80 meter coil and some crystals off of a 15 watt Amico transmitter, CW.
They say there is no more CW and I picked up a commercial maritime station that was right on your frequency.
Yeah, they're all over the place.
Did they still use them today?
Sure.
And if they ever have an airburst, you can forget about your satellite.
And they don't have any more radio operators.
They've got one technician.
He takes care of the engine room, the diesels.
And I sailed on a few diesels, and they're worried about terrorists.
Well, I'm also a locksmith.
You know, I picked up over the years.
And if I was a terrorist with a 21-man crew cut down from 42, I could go down in that engine room, unlock it, and completely destroy that ship.
And they're doing it with the Navy ships.
But it's a good idea for you listeners to pick up Uh-huh.
I've got an S-108.
S-108?
Yeah.
And, uh, they're excellent radios.
They're fantastic.
Mine is, anyway.
Right.
Lord on the ship and it would work on AC and DC.
I've got an S-108.
S-108.
Yeah.
And they're excellent radios.
They're fantastic.
Mine is, anyway.
Right.
And the thing, the status of a merchant sailman, the Boson, say, would have, was it the Grundig
back in the late 60s?
Yeah.
The officers, they could afford the Zenith trans-oceanic, and I got the second model sitting here if you ever want to read.
There's a lot of those floating around with the, uh, with the magnet antenna?
Right.
I've got the one with the three batteries, the A, B, and C battery.
Uh-huh.
And, uh, like the second model.
But it's got to be restored.
But we used to sit on decks running to Vietnam or running to India.
And forgive my breathing because I have heart failure.
I'm recuperating.
But, uh... Did you ever go into Da Nang Harbor?
That was my first, first trip.
That's where I had my 18th birthday, May 6, 1960.
Do you see that patrol boat scooting around the harbor with the twin 50s in the turret?
No, I remember, let's see, I remember changing money at the White Elephant.
Yeah, that was also Naval Headquarters.
Right, and we were too stupid as kids, we were 16 and 17, to realize that we could change at Black Market outside the gate and get more.
Well, I'm disappointed that you didn't see me tooling around the harbor there protecting your ship.
Well, on my second ship... You didn't care, did you?
You wanted shore leave.
Yeah, we wound up in a Pacific house of... Yeah, I know where you went.
Yeah, you know, we were on a family program.
But, you know, kids and kids.
Yeah.
The name was a beautiful place.
I kind of like those people.
I like them too.
We used to sit on deck and we made a run to India on S-man lines and every time there's a phenomenon.
Now I did not like India.
You didn't like India?
You've been there?
India?
You never put that in your book.
No, I've been to India.
I don't like India because of the unbelievable poverty that some of those people live in.
And because of the caste system, they have no hope of ever getting out of it.
That's true.
I wound up with hepatitis in Madras six weeks and I almost died.
Yeah, well, you can die real easy in India of just about any kind of disease you can think of.
Well, my watch partner, the ordinary, drank water from a shore and brought back some food, and exactly one month later I came down with it, approximately.
Yeah.
And, wow, it's a terrible thing there.
Well, you know, I could talk to you all night about our seafaring adventures.
Well, maybe we will sometime in the future.
Yeah, I sent off your newspaper, and I sent off some stamps for the kids that went through my, you know, QSL card stamp collection.
Uh-huh.
And I picked up the weirdest stamp from Poland.
It's got a bull's head, a man, and a brown shirt.
Uh huh.
You mean esoterically?
I don't know.
I'd have to look at the actual stamp.
Oh, okay.
the front. The bull's head has a ring through his nose. How do you interpret that esoterically?
You mean esoterically? I don't know. I'd have to look at the actual stamp.
Well, I'd make a package for you tonight. Oh, okay. Well, the girls will like that,
I'll tell you. I got one from the Channel Islands in England.
Yes, they did.
line on the diving club put them out and that's got the sea brink diving helmet. I didn't
know they made clothes suits in 1840 something. Yes they did. Well it's got that on it. When
I went to diving school, the coastal school of deep sea diving in Oakland, California,
Al Michelow who ran the school had one of those and I got to dive in it. Wow, that must
have been neat. I bought an open bottom helmet out of popular science and I got off the ship
and they gave you a little electric pump.
You run off a dry cell battery.
I tested it with my nieces and nephews in a swimming pool.
I wouldn't be doing that.
Well, I went down about 20 feet with it.
We took a boat out and I almost got ran over by a yacht because I was used Some of these things that people put together to go diving with, like little electric pumps, can kill you.
Right, and I had lights on the clam rake, lights on the basket, and a knotted rope, and it was three pounds underwater.
Gilbert Rowland.
Huh?
Gilbert Rowland, the 12-mile reef.
Yeah.
But what happened was my nephew went to get a soda in the bow of the rowboat, you know, and I'm talking three times, like the book said, for him to pull me up.
Uh-huh.
Because I got caught in a current.
Yeah, well you know your line signals.
That's exactly what it is.
Pull me up.
I read a book.
I read books on things.
On the bottom, by command or something.
You know what?
You know what I just noticed?
What?
We're out of time.
God bless you, too.
Your conversation was so interesting, I forgot the time.
Good night, folks.
God bless each and every single one of you.
We'll see you tomorrow night.
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God is watching everything you do.
I've been watching you for ages, like a boat without a mast.
I'm struggling with the tie of destiny between the future and the past.
I am a lighthouse, I am a stream.
I am an air that you breathe, a gravity to me.
I am a lighthouse, I am a stream.
I am a lighthouse, I am a stream.
I'm trying now, at least I might.
You come to, to lay by my side.
To teach you where to get, to come along with my lady.
And she's quite a disgrace, in the dream.
I'm a lighthouse, I am a stream.
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you.
It feels like rain drops.
Falling from my eyes Falling from my eyes Since my love has left me I'm so alone I would bring her back to me But I don't know where she's gone I don't know where she's gone Oh, it must be rain!
Oh, it must be rain!
When he's falling from my high high Oh no, it can't be still time
For a man ain't supposed to cry Oh it must be rain
Oh it's rain It feels like rain drop
Falling Falling from my eyes.
Falling from my eyes.
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