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WACO Memorial part 3
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Today's broadcast is going to be like yesterday.
Two reruns from long, long ago, and in keeping with the theme of this week, remember Waco.
The first one was aired on April 28, 1993, just a few days after the conflagration which burned alive all of those poor men, women, and children inside that church.
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In Waco, Texas, authorities continue to sift through the burnt-out rubble that once was the church known as Branch Davidian, and our agents of the Citizens Agency for Joint Intelligence continue to dig out and reveal the truth of what really happened in Waco, Texas.
And tonight, you're going to hear the sum total Of everything that we have learned, some of it we have been intentionally holding back until the right time, and folks, this is the right time.
Now, in the beginning, the only thing that the American public knew was that all of a sudden, on CNN and on other networks, we saw a raid taking place against a church in Waco, Texas.
A church that was called a cult.
Its leader was said to have several wives and twenty-some-odd children from these seven or eight wives.
He was said to be a child molester, a child abuser.
All of this was told to the American people.
And the reason for the raid, dear listeners, As we sat transfixed by the horror of what we were observing on our television sets, people being killed on both sides, we were told that the United States government, in the form of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, had raided this church based upon a tip from a foreign source
From a source outside of this country, that David Koresh and his followers in the church Branch Davidian in Waco, Texas, were about to commit mass suicide.
We have tracked down the origin of that rumor, and we know this much about it.
Number one, it wouldn't have made any difference if David Koresh and his followers were going to actually commit mass suicide or not.
The federal government had no jurisdiction in Waco, Texas, or anything involving suicide of one person or two hundred persons.
It is outside their jurisdiction.
In fact, the revelation of the plan to commit mass suicide was a propaganda ploy aimed at gathering public opinion on the side of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.
This raid had been well planned far in advance.
The Cult Awareness Network, consisting of kidnappers and deprogrammers, is called CAN, the Cult Awareness Network, which has NK-ULTRA doctors on its board.
Remember, NK-ULTRA mind-controlled experiments using drugs, hypnosis, and other mind-control techniques.
NK-ULTRA was conducted by the Central Intelligence Agency.
And remember, the Cult Awareness Network This comes right out, right out of the ADL, the JDL, the B'nai B'rith, and all of these were created branches of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry.
All of these.
The Koch Awareness Network, folks, is notoriously mercenary.
and is deployed on a regular basis on behalf of intelligence agencies.
And the original tip, folks, came from an ADL, that Anti-Defamation League-connected intelligence agent in Australia, named Jeff Hosek.
Hosek is paid for by Melbourne-based World Jewish Congress co-chairman E.C.
Liebler and friends.
Hasek had been working for years in investigations of the Branch Davidians, who had recruited heavily into Australia, Great Britain, and Canada, as well as the United States.
And Hasek was an individual who claimed that sect leader David Koresh was about to implement a plan of mass suicide, and thus provided the public relations trigger for the federal police assault in Waco, Texas.
Now, don't get me wrong, folks, as you've heard me say on this program many times, it is not the Jews as a people, the Catholic as a people, the Orientals as a people, the Hispanics, the Blacks, the Protestants, or any other group.
The powerful forces and organizations that are bringing about the change in the world today and orchestrated the murder of an entire church full of people In Waco, Texas, has members belonging to every group and every people and every race that you can think of.
They are collectively known as the Illumined Ones or the Illuminati, Mystery Babylon, the Mystery Schools.
It is the old ancient religion of the worship of the sun outwardly To the esoteric, to the ones who know, it is the worship of the intellect, the mind.
The Cult Awareness Network, the Anti-Defamation League, B'nai B'rith, are all organizations created and controlled by the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry.
Make sure you understand those things.
What happened in Waco, Texas, was this.
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms obtained a warrant to search for illegal weapons.
Named in the warrant was David Koresh.
As soon as they realized that they were losing the battle, the B.A.T.F.
sealed the warrant so that the public could not get their hands on any of these warrants.
The reason the warrants were sealed is that the B.A.T.F.
had no authority under those warrants to make a raid on the church known as Branch Davidian.
In other words, to be able to perform the raid which they conducted They needed a no-knock warrant.
It is a special warrant issued by a judge.
These warrants were just regular, ordinary warrants.
They are meant to be served by officers of the court or officers of the law by knocking on the door, stating that they have a warrant, presenting the warrant, and then going about their duties.
In the past, when warrants had been presented to David Koresh, And there was no reason to believe that the situation would have been any different on that Sunday morning of February the 28th.
But instead of doing what they were required to do by law, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms pulled up in speeding trucks, pulling cattle cars, loaded with armed flackjacketed agents who immediately disembarked, running and screaming and yelling at the top of their lungs with ladders and placed them against the side of the building, began breaking out windows and shooting indiscriminately.
David Koresh stuck half his body out the front door yelled at them to stop.
He yelled, Let's talk!
There are women and children inside!
For his efforts, he was shot.
And it wasn't too long after that, when he went back inside and closed the door, and the people in the church took up weapons to defend themselves, that David Koresh was shot again.
Altogether, there were only thirty men in the building who took up arms to defend the members of the church.
We do not know if all thirty of those men had weapons or not, but we do know that they were good shots, for they killed four of the ATF agents and wounded sixteen others.
Which, in my book, is a pretty good showing.
Pretty good showing.
The ATF regrouped, retreated to what they considered to be a safe position.
Those trapped behind cover near the buildings were told by the Branch Davidians to leave.
Go!
But they were afraid to come out in the open and leave.
They thought they would be shot.
The people in the church told them to go.
They had no interest in shooting them.
They were only protecting themselves, defending themselves from an attack.
The federal authorities called for a truce to remove their dead and wounded and allow those who were trapped behind cover within killing range of the church to retreat to a safe position.
The Branch Davidians agreed and asked them to remove their dead and wounded also, and to bring them food and water and medical supplies, which they did not need, by the way.
But the ATF said that they would and did not.
They removed their dead and wounded, allowed their agents to escape to a safe position, did not bring out the dead or the wounded from the church, and did not furnish the church members any food or water.
With the first exchange, when the first people came out from the church, David Koresh sent out $1,000 to purchase milk for the children.
The $1,000 was never returned.
No one knows what happened to it.
The milk was not furnished for the children, until eventually the local sheriff furnished milk for the children inside the church, and it was sent in, and the containers were bugged with listening devices.
All of which, according to Rita Riddle, in our one-hour interview with her, And this is the only media in the world that managed to get a one-hour interview with anyone who came out of that church.
And so far, we're the only ones who have dug up the truth and are revealing it to the people of the world.
You might ask the media why that is so.
Then, the ATF publicly denounced The members of the Church of Branch Davidian as terrorists.
This was announced on the news.
The reason for the raid has now changed from the fact that they were going to commit mass suicide to the fact that they were terrorists.
And the press was told that David Koresh and the church members were collecting and stockpiling arms and ammunitions, which
included .50 caliber machine guns, with which they were going to attack the city of Waco, Texas.
And the American people bought all these lies, one right after another.
you.
Bought them all.
Bought every single one of them.
Somewhere along the line, the charges changed from the reason they attacked was that they were going to commit mass suicide, to the fact that they were terrorists, to the fact that they were child abusers and child molesters, to .50 caliber machine guns and grenades and rockets.
And folks, all of these were lies from beginning to end.
The people of the church were told on the telephone that if they would send some people
out, they would be treated well, they would be allowed to make phone calls to talk to
their family, to their legal attorneys.
They would be allowed to call back into the church of Branch Davidian and tell the others how they were treated and what was going on on the outside.
So some of them came out, one of whom was Rita Riddle, and you heard her testimony on this broadcast the hour of the time where she was betrayed.
She was taken directly to the county jail and locked up, and then to a halfway house and held prisoner by the Salvation Army.
Can you believe this?
And she was not allowed to call back in to the church to tell the other members what had happened to the ones who'd come out.
Every promise that the FBI and the ATF made to the people in the church was not held to.
They did not keep their promises, so the people in the church stopped believing them.
Stopped believing them.
Rita Riddle told me that if she had known Before she came out, what she knows now, and she said this before they were all murdered, that she would never have come out of the church.
She told me, and the others who have come out have reached us with their stories, that there was no promiscuity, that David Koresh did not have seven or eight wives.
That there was no child abuse, no child molestation, and that all the weapons in the possession of some of the members of the church were legal.
We then interviewed the county sheriff who told us that he had personally, him and his people, had personally inspected the weapons held by the members of the church at Branch Davidian, and had even taken those weapons from them.
And that they were all legal and had been returned to their owners.
We went to the child welfare people in Waco, Texas, who told us that they had been asked by people who had made allegations that child abuse was being carried out against the children of the members of the Church of Branch Davidian.
And that these people who asked them to make these investigations were connected with the Kult Awareness Network.
They thoroughly investigated and found no proof, not even a hint of child abuse or child molestation.
They interviewed every one of the children who all denied that they had ever been abused or violated.
are molested in any manner whatsoever.
Every picture that we were able to see of the children of the church, of the members of the church, every time we saw a picture of these children, the children were smiling and happy and hugging each other and their parents and the other members of the church.
They were not afraid.
They were not unhappy, they were not depressed, they did not exhibit any of the trauma or characteristics or personality traits of children who are abused or violated.
It was all a lie.
All of it.
Janet Reno blatantly lied when she said that the cult, as she called it, had 50 caliber machine guns.
And I believe that I told you on Monday night what a .50 caliber machine gun can do, its maximum effective range, its maximum range, and what a good machine gunner can hit at what range.
We examined the vehicles and the trucks and the tanks and everything that was there, folks.
I fought in Vietnam.
I used .50 caliber machine guns.
In fact, had three of them on my boat.
I was a river patrol boat captain.
I know what they can do.
I know the damage that they do to vehicles and to trees and to people, and there was none of that damage there anywhere.
None of the wounded or dead on the government's side exhibited any, any kind of wound that could even remotely be attributed to a .50 caliber machine gun.
None of the vehicles had marks, scratches, or ricochet signatures of a .50 caliber bullet None of them had holes the size of a .50 caliber bullet, or even approaching that size.
And indeed, if they'd been hit by .50 caliber bullets, none of them would have been driven away, I can assure you.
Also, the federal forces would have suffered many more casualties than what they did, had those people in the church been using .50 caliber machine guns against them.
There were no wounds of shrapnel from hand grenades.
There were no signs of the use of hand grenades, nor rockets of any kind.
Rockets are very effective against vehicles, and none of the vehicles had been hit by a rocket.
Rockets have a pretty good range, folks.
The Federal Forces and even, even The facilities where the press conferences were held were within range of both rockets and .50 caliber machine guns, and if they had had rockets and .50 caliber machine guns, the BATF, the FBI, the Texas Rangers, none of them would have been located as close as they were, and the press would never have been permitted to attend press conferences within range of .50 caliber machine guns or rockets.
All lies.
All lies.
And the American people bought these lies.
They swallowed the hook, the line, the sinker, and some of them even swallowed the pole.
Despicable, ignorant, stupid sheeple!
Nobody cared the legal reasons why they were there, what was happening.
Nobody challenged their jurisdiction when they said they were there to investigate allegations of mass suicide or child abuse or child molestation, none of which was within the jurisdiction of the federal government, but was strictly a local jurisdiction legal matter.
And all of these had been previously investigated thoroughly by the local officials and had found no And that's despicable, that the American people are so stupid that they didn't question any of this.
Instead, because the federal government made allegations of child abuse and child molestation,
I heard many people say that the members of the Church of Branch Davidian were weirdos
who deserved to die.
you No justice, no trial, no jury of their peers, no chance to defend themselves or to confront their accusers.
Weirdos who deserved to die, and the topper was when the United States government announced that David Koresh, called himself Jesus Christ, something that we were not able to substantiate anywhere.
Nobody in Waco, Texas, had ever heard David Koresh call himself Jesus Christ.
And Rita Riddle, a member of the church, denied it in our one-hour interview with her, stating
that David Koresh had never said any such thing in the two years that he had lived and
attended and studied with him in the church of Branch Divinity.
I warn you on my broadcasts that these people were going to be murdered unless we stopped
what was going on, for I knew the real reason that they were there.
It had nothing to do with any of the stated reasons, nor because of illegal weapons, which they already knew did not exist.
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And the principle, Echdivian, how could that be when he could sleep?
I don't know.
I don't know.
In the beginning, we were told that David Koresh was holding over 100 hostages within
the church of Barstavidion.
Thank you.
How could that be, when he could sleep, and they could all run out the door?
Well, we know that that was a lie also, simply because everyone who has come out from the church has stated that they were there of their own free will, Not a one of them will admit to having been held hostage by anyone.
They said that they could leave at any time that they ever wanted to leave, but that they stayed on principle.
They have broken no law.
Under Article I of the United States Constitution, they had a right to practice whatever religion they choose, whether you or I or anyone else likes it or not.
As long as in the practice of that religion, they broke no laws.
Under the Second Article and Amendment to the Constitution, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
They have the right to own and maintain wherever weapons they chose.
We have been lied to from beginning All the way through, all the way to the end.
David Koresh said that he would come out after he wrote a book, or a series of chapters, explaining the seven seals and the opening of the seven seals.
Now, don't ask me what all that means.
You heard what Rudolph Riddle said about it, that the seven seals were really the Bible, and David Koresh.
Was the one who was able to interpret the Bible correctly, better than anyone else, and thus open the seal.
I am not a member, nor have I ever been a member of Branch Davidian.
I don't know anything about what he taught, nor do I care.
He has a right to teach whatever he wanted to teach, and they all had a right to believe whatever they wanted to believe under our system of government, under our Constitution in the United States of America.
That is our right.
So, it really doesn't matter what the seven seals are, whether or not he could open those seals, or what the people of the church believed that he could or could not do concerning the seven seals.
In fact, if you want to know the truth, if you all got so riled up because he was supposed to have seven or eight wives and twenty-some-odd children, all of which was a lie, Why don't we have every federal agent that exists in this country in the state of Utah right now?
Why aren't they raiding the Mormon Church for polygamy?
Polygamy, although not discussed publicly very much, is still practiced by the Mormon Church in the state of Utah and elsewhere, and there have been TV documentaries about it, and you all know about it.
Why were you so upset because David Koresh was supposedly sleeping with seven or eight women and had twenty-some-odd children by these women?
What the hell do you care?
And if you do care, why aren't you persecuting the Mormon Church?
Thoroughly investigated by the Texas authorities.
No substantiation whatsoever.
ever was ever found by anyone.
All of the children have always, and continue to deny to this day, the twenty-one children who managed to get out and were not burned up in the fire, still, right now, right this moment, deny ever having been abused or molested.
In fact, they are incredibly sorrowful That they survived.
Several of them have stated that they wish they had stayed in the church and died with
their parents and their friends, which they call family.
Incredible, you say?
you No, these people exhibit more loyalty, more togetherness, more love as a group.
than most people I've ever met in my life.
It takes a great commitment to principle and your religion and your family, your loved ones and your friends,
to be willing to die for them.
How about you?
Would you die for your family?
For your principles?
For the Constitution?
For your friends?
For your church?
I doubt it.
I doubt it.
We'll find out.
Because you're next!
You stupid sheeple, you're next!
And you haven't even got the common sense or the brains to understand what is happening.
And that makes me sick to my stomach.
For now, you're going to hear what happened on that last day, the 51st day.
Early in the morning, two hospitals were called.
The hospital in Renko, Texas.
We talked to a nurse who worked there who received the telephone call and she was asked what facilities they had that would be able to handle large numbers of burn victims.
Parkland Hospital in Dallas, Texas was placed on alert.
Its burn unit and its emergency facilities were placed on alert to receive large numbers of burn victims.
And that, folks, that, folks, was broadcast on CNN.
On CNN.
and we have substantiated it.
The FBI claimed that it lost patience, that it didn't have replacement people to come
in and replace the people who had been there for 51 days.
All lies.
All lies.
that their people were so tired that they couldn't continue, they lost patience.
At the press conference, they stated that an N-60 tank with a derrick attached to it
was poking holes into the building and through hoses they were pumping tear gas.
Large amounts of CS gas, tear gas, which everyone who's ever been in the military service has experienced, seen, smelled.
We've all been through the tear gas training in Vietnam.
On occasion, we used it.
Tear gas produces, whether from a canister or from a bomb or a shell or whatever it happens to be contained in, a large, initially dense, white, foggy cloud.
They stated that they were pumping vast amounts of CS gas into the church known as Branch Davidian.
Yet, through none of these holes in the building, of which there were a large number, I can assure you, because I saw them, They were pumping large amounts of CS tear gas, yet no, no clouds of tear gas emerged from any of those holes at any time, ever.
And if you don't believe that, you examine the tapes for yourself.
Talk to the witnesses who were there yourself.
Examine it yourself.
Don't take my word for it.
Examine tapes and film made of others.
Incidences where tear gas was put into a building and you can clearly see clouds of white gas coming out of the windows, the doors, wherever it could escape.
None of that happened at Branch Division.
We sent caddy members downwind.
To see if they could smell any tear gas on the wind.
In the vast amounts that they stated they were pumping CS tear gas into that building, we should have been able to smell tear gas clearly three miles away with the breeze blowing as it was.
No tear gas was detected, but they did detect something else, folks.
on the air was the clear and unmistakable smell of petroleum products.
When the tank continued to poke holes over several hours, pumping in what they said were
large amounts of CS2 gas, we knew that something was wrong because nobody could stay inside
a building with that much tear gas being subjected to it for that long a period of time.
Yeah.
There would have been many people rushing out of that building, but no one, I repeat,
no one emerged.
We watched as the tank burst through the front door of the building, many hours after they
had started this supposed pumping of tear gas into the building.
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And we watched as the tank backed out A fire start right there and spread rapidly as if igniting gasoline or some super-inflammable material spread throughout the church so quick
Folks, this was not the fire, the product of several small little fires started throughout the building.
It started at one point and spread like lightning.
Almost immediately, the entire building was engulfed in flames, dark red flames, the signature of a petroleum fire, and thick, thick, huge, billowing, dense clouds of black petroleum smoke.
And still, the American people watched, and even though they know that a wooden building burning does not produce thick, billowing clouds of black petroleum smoke, they watched and believed what they were told.
Now, I'm going to tell you, ladies and gentlemen, right now, I don't know what the United States government was pumping into that building, but I can tell you it was not CS tear gas.
I can tell you that there was a heavy smell of petroleum products on the air downwind from the church.
I can tell you that that was a petroleum fire, and anyone who's ever had any experience in firefighting or with petroleum fires knew it at first glance.
It was not the product of a little bit of kerosene spilled from hurricane lamps around in three or four different places to start a fire.
These were thick, heavy, dense clouds of black petroleum product smoke burning.
These were not yellow flames from a paper or wood fire.
These were the dense red scarlet flames of petroleum burning.
If you don't believe it, you get the tapes and watch them for yourself.
Watch the tapes yourself.
Take them to people whom you know are experts on fires, as we have done, and ask them what they see, as we have done.
And everyone that we take in the tapes to has said that it is a petroleum fire.
These people were murdered exactly as I said they would be murdered.
They were burned alive, cremated.
The most horrible, terrible, painful death And the reason they didn't come out, because it was obvious that they were going to be murdered from the beginning.
They had nowhere to go, folks.
Nowhere to go.
And again, they were standing upon principle.
Principle.
They were willing to die for their God, their family, their friends, and their principles.
their beliefs, their ideals.
They were more American than most Americans.
Even though you may not agree with their religious teachings, you may not like David Koresh.
They had a right to be treated humanely.
They had a right to be given the chance to open their door and say, yes, come in and search these premises.
We have nothing illegal here.
They had a right to confront their accusers.
They had a right to a fair trial with a jury of their peers.
They had no right to be raided, attacked, and burned.
They had no right to be lied about.
President Clinton, in a press conference, made this statement.
David Koresh was having sex with children.
Is there anyone here who would dispute that?"
he said.
No one in the audience raised their hand to dispute it, and that is the first and only time that charge has ever been made against David Koresh.
We have not found anyone who ever has said that David Koresh had sex with children.
The Child Welfare Department in Texas has never heard that charge from anyone.
Why did President Clinton deliberately lie to the American people and say that David Koresh was having sex with children?
It was for your benefit, people.
It was so that you would not question what they were doing down there.
It's so that they could have permission to kill those people because they were politically incorrect and not because they had broken any laws.
Or had been tried and found guilty, and was sentenced by a judge, but simply because the United States government wanted them to die.
They wanted to give an object lesson to the sheeple of the nation, and to patriots in particular, and in Christians in general.
To Christians in general.
And that is this.
If they can convince the American people, and all that takes is a statement to the press, that you are a child molester, or a child abuser, and that you have illegal weapons, they can kill you.
And that when they continually pass their laws restricting even further gun ownership, and when they come for your guns, you had better not resist.
And Christians, you were targeted from day one.
I hope all you sheeple are listening because you're next.
You are next.
And you're just stupid enough to let it happen.
So let it happen.
I'm watching incredible things happen in this country that just 20 years ago could never have happened.
But they're happening now. Aren't they?
and I'm going to be back in a minute.
So you have an entire country that allowed a whole church to be destroyed and murdered, and the few who managed to get away are all in jail, having committed no crimes, simply because You were willing to believe all the lies that you've been told.
And where you would demand a due process of law, in your own instance, you denied it to them.
Oh, he was a child abuser, child molester, had seven or eight wives and twenty-some-odd children, had illegal weapons, fifty-caliber machine guns.
Yeah, those lunatics deserve to die.
And did you hear, Quentin?
When he stated publicly in a press conference, if you are thinking of joining a cult, or if you are already a member, you had better take this as a warning.
There's more to come, folks.
I said it a long time ago.
It will escalate like wildfire across the country.
Who's next?
You better look around.
You better look around, and you better get ready.
You'd better exercise all your rights.
You'd better have food and water, and you'd better be prepared.
Or, you'd better get rid of all your guns, throw your rights out, make a public statement that you welcome the New World Order, reach down and put the shackles on your own ankles.
And I know that many of you will do that.
Starting tomorrow morning, you will be announcing to your neighbors how attractive it would be to have a one-world government.
And you will justify it and rationalize it in many different ways.
And you will fool some of your neighbors, others of your neighbors you will not fool, and you will never fool me, because I will always know that you are just a bunch of hypocrites, liars, and cowards, and that you were never real Americans to begin with.
Most of you don't even own a copy of the Constitution and know nothing about it.
And frankly, my dear Scarlett, you just don't give a damn.
And except for the real patriots in this country, I am sick to death of most of you.
You make me sick.
Being in Waco, Texas, watching the FBI and the ATF strut their stuff, knowing what really happened there, understanding how easy it was to convince the rest of the country to accept what they were doing, all of it illegal, Listening to the FBI say that when they put in the tear gas, they had no idea what was going to happen.
They stated that the Branch Davidians started the fire, even though it's clear on tape when and where the fire started.
You can see it for yourself.
They stated that the Branch Divinia started the fire and they had no idea in the world that these people would ever contemplate mass suicide.
Well folks, they had never contemplated mass suicide.
But this statement coming from the FBI was really strange considering that the first press conference that they gave on the 28th of February was that the reason for the raid was that these people were going to commit mass suicide!
And none of you put it together. None of you even remembered what they said in the first press conference.
And that's why commercials on TV are no longer than 30 seconds, because that's the normal
attention span of the average American adult.
Despicable people.
Who's going to help you when they come for you.
Go back and look at the history of Nazi Germany.
Look at how it all came about, and look at how everyone turned their head and ignored it.
It's coming again, just as I said it would.
And you are all doing exactly what the Germans And everybody else in the world did when it began happening in the thirties in Germany.
You're not under the law of the Constitution anymore.
You are under international law.
The United Nations Charter is taking charge of the world.
And most of you don't even care.
Don't give a damn.
Some of you do.
And some of us do, but not enough, not near enough.
You'd better think about the consequences of all of this, dear listeners, because you are now entering a world where the method to stop a group of people from committing mass suicide is to murder them.
And, of course, that really wasn't the reason for any of it, anyway.
Good night, and may God have mercy upon your soul.
Once all of the air was the air of the fire. Once all of the earth was the earth of the fire.
Once all of the air was the air of the fire. Once all of the earth was the air of the fire.
Once again, you're listening to the Hour of the Times.
I'm William Cooper.
And I'm Poop.
And here's Pooh with the pledge.
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Thank you, baby.
Should I do it again?
No, not tonight.
I've got a lot to talk about.
You really want to do it again?
Yeah.
Go ahead.
To the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
I thought you were just joking.
I wasn't joking.
You really like that, don't you?
Yeah, but I keep scaring myself.
Well, you know what?
It's very good when you get scared to get back up on the horse and ride it.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
I love you.
I love you too.
Bye.
Oh, people.
Why don't you come and...
I'll tell you a little something that my daddy told me.
My basic fundamentals, if you want to be free, the sun will shine around you eternally.
So if you want your freedom, son, don't want your conscience to be overrun,
you've got to keep America number one.
My daddy told me, son, don't ever take your gun.
That's what they try to do.
Son, don't ever take your gun.
And maybe you'll be the rightful victim to my daddy's gun.
Don't ever take your gun.
That's what they try to do.
Son, don't ever take your gun.
They'll take your gun with them.
You're listening to a...
You're listening to a rerun of the hour of the time of the time that was originally...
Broadcast on July the 17th, 1995, and is number 655 in our catalog.
The first hour was a rerun, originally broadcast on April the 28th, 1993, and is tape number 83 in our catalog.
Oh, by the way, when Pooh said the pledge on this beginning of this hour, She was only three years old.
In fact, it just turns three.
two months before she helped make this broadcast.
She was a very good friend of mine.
I've read it twice on the air now.
I'm going to read it again.
From the Arlington Washington Times, June 7, 1995, and I quote,
During the past several months in the American press, the Democrats have frequently denounced the Republicans as
Nazis due to their attempt to control runaway federal spending.
How very ironic.
I remember the Nazis.
Let me share with you a little about them and recall some of their exploits.
First of all, Nazi was gutter slang for the verb to nationalize.
The Beider-Meinhof gang gave themselves this moniker during their early struggles.
The official title of the Nazi Party was The National Socialist Workers' Party of Germany.
The official title of the Nazi Party was The National Socialist Workers' Party of Germany.
Now this isn't in the letter, folks.
This is in the slide.
Why is it so difficult for people to get that through their thick heads?
It says it all right there.
I continue.
Dittler and the Brown Sheriffs advocated the nationalization of education, health care, transportation, natural resources, manufacturing, distribution, and law enforcement.
Dittler came to power by turning the working class unemployed and academic elite against the conservative republic.
Same thing is happening today.
After Der Fuehrer's election, the Nazi party ceased being a political conspiracy and was transformed into a fashionable social phenomenon.
Party membership was especially popular with educators, bureaucrats, and the press.
Being a Nazi was politically correct.
They called themselves the Children of the New Age of World Order and looked down their noses at everyone else.
As Hitler accrued more power, he began referring to his critics as the dark forces of anarchy and hatred.
Anyone who questioned Nazi high-handedness in the German press was branded a conservative reactionary.
Joseph Goebbels, Minister of Communications, proclaimed a New World Order.
The Nazi reign of terror began with false news reports on the radio and in the newspapers.
Paramilitary groups of Poles, Jews, Bohemians and gypsies were said to be arming themselves to overthrow the New World Order, and Hitler demanded that all good people register their guns so that they wouldn't fall in the hands of terrorists and madmen.
Right-wing fanatics of the old order who protested firearms registration were arrested by the SS and put in jail for fomenting hatred against the government of the German people.
Then the Reichstag The government building was blown up, and Hitler ramrodded an emergency anti-terrorist act through Parliament that gave the Gestapo extraordinary powers.
The leader... I don't know if I can go on.
The leader then declared that for the well-being of the German people, all private firearms were to be confiscated by the Gestapo and the Wehrmacht, federal law enforcement and military.
German citizens who refused to surrender their guns when the jackboots, the Gestapo, came calling, were murdered in their homes.
By the way, the Gestapo was the federal marshal service of the Third Reich.
The SWAT team was actually invented and perfected by the Gestapo.
to break into the homes of the enemies of the German people.
When the Polizei, Biwaken, or local police, refused to take away guns from townsfolk, they themselves were disarmed and dragged out into the street and shot to death by the SA and the SS, the Nazi version of the BATF and the FBI.
When several Lutheran ministers spoke out against these atrocities, they were imprisoned and never seen again.
The Gestapo began to confiscate and seize the homes, businesses, bank accounts, and personal belongings of wealthy conservative citizens who had prospered in the old republic.
I'm sorry, folks.
This isn't funny.
It really isn't.
It's tragic.
But, the comparison.
It's almost as if the clock had wound back to 1936.
This is incredible.
And it's even more incredible that the people who are instigating all of this are calling those of us who want to stop at Nazis.
And most of the stupid sheeple out there are buying it because they don't know any better.
Let me continue.
The Gestapo began to confiscate and seize the homes, businesses, bank accounts, and personal belongings of wealthy conservative citizens who had prospered in the old republic.
Pamphleteers who urged revolt against the Nazis were shot on sight by national law enforcement and the military.
Gypsies and Jews were detained and sent to labor camps.
Mountain roads throughout central Europe were closed to prevent escape of fugitives into the wilderness and to prevent movement and concealment of partisan resistance fighters.
Public schools rewrote history, and Hitler youth groups taught children to report their parents to their teachers for anti-Nazi remarks.
Such parents disappeared.
Pagan animism became the state religion of the Third Reich, and Christians were widely condemned as right-wing fanatics.
Millions of books were burned first, and then people.
Millions of them burned in huge ovens after they were first gassed to death.
Unmarried women were paid large sums of money to have babies out of wedlock, and then given medals for it.
Evil was declared as being good, and good was condemned as being evil.
World order was coming, and the German people were going to be the peacekeepers.
Yes, indeed.
I remember the Nazis, and they weren't Republicans.
They were socialists, and they were monsters.
Signs Thomas, Colton, Rutherford, Arlington.
If you want to hear some Nazis, turn into Radio for Peace International up Costa Rica some night.
And you can hear the Nazis and all their glory and all their lies and all their scummy little machinations.
It's incredible.
I want to talk about Waco tonight.
And I wanted to read that to you first so you know what's really going on.
Socialism.
Thank you.
If you've been watching the newspapers lately and been reading the press releases from the Nazi jackbooted thugs of the BATF and the FBI who are crying and whining that they're being done wrong because they're going to be investigated and it was really those nasty old Branch Davidians That was threatening America, not them.
Bullshit.
Total, unadulterated, complete bullshit right up to their eyebrows.
These men are the most chronic, barefaced liars I have ever listened to in my life.
Let's go over Waco and let's look at the truth.
And I want you all to know what the truth is, so you can carry it out.
And you can fax and write and call your congressmen, and specifically the ones on this investigating committee, and demand that the truth be heard.
Number one.
They have never decided why they raided the Branch Davidians.
Never.
Not to this very day.
They've changed their tune five million times.
But if you read the accounts that they're putting in the newspapers now, they're changing it again.
You see, the first press release put out by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms on that morning of February the 28th, 1993, ladies and gentlemen, was that they made the raid on that church Because they had information from a foreign source that all of the church members were going to commit mass suicide.
Now, do you understand what I'm telling you?
The raid was strangely coordinated, strangely coordinated, with a full-blown attack by the Waco Tribune that morning, that very morning in the newspaper.
Now, they say that it was a coincidence that they had really planned to raid the compound and deliver the, actually they were going to serve a search warrant is what they said, at a later date, but they were afraid that the publication of the newspaper would give their plans away.
Now, why an attack upon an obscure religious group by a newspaper in their own hometown was going to give an attack by the BATF away, I can't quite figure out.
I don't think anybody could.
It's a very long stretch of the imagination, I tell you.
But you see, they lied again, because when the search warrant was finally obtained by real people who can read and tell the truth, and I have a copy of it, and any of you can get a copy of it also, if you wish, but not from me.
Go to the source.
If you get a copy of it, you'll see that the warrant expired on that day, the 28th.
So they lied in saying that they were going to serve the warrant and raid the compound at some later date, but did it that morning because they were afraid that the publication of the newspaper was going to tick them off.
The truth is, they didn't want you to know that their raid was in coordination with that issue of the newspaper.
That's the truth.
The supposed tip that the Branch Davidians were going to commit mass suicide came from a branch of the Anti-Defamation League in Australia.
And the man who issued this warning to the State Department was actually the head of the Australian branch of the Lodge of B'nai B'rith.
It doesn't matter, though, ladies and gentlemen, because even if the Branch Davidians had planned to commit mass suicide, which they had not, What was the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms doing conducting the raid on a church because they were going to commit mass suicide?
And how in the world were they going to stop these people from being killed when they raided this church with guns drawn firing and a helicopter, in fact more than one helicopter, at least two helicopters were circling overhead firing down through the roof of the building?
These are facts.
Indisputable facts.
These are the true things that happen.
You see, Waco has been investigated by many, many, many, many people and the reason that this won't die in the minds of the American people is because these truths are indisputable.
The lies have become transparent and nobody believes them anymore.
In fact, I don't think that there's three people in this whole country that believes the government when they open their mouth about Waco, Texas.
Anyone in government.
I don't care who it is.
Now, here's the quencher.
They say that they were merely attempting to serve a warrant and the Branch Davidians fired upon them first and killed four of their men.
Well, that can't possibly be true because three of those men were killed inside the building.
They were inside the building.
Now, this, we have this in a statement issued during a press conference by the DATF themselves.
Now here's the kicker, folks.
Thank you.
They were lying, again.
You see, everything they said was a lie.
They were not trying to serve a search warrant.
You know why?
They didn't even have the search warrant with them.
They left it behind.
They had intended on raiding this building and killing those people from the first moment.
From the very first moment.
They had coordinated their raid in concert with a propaganda release.
The story attacking David Kresh and the Branch Davidians on that morning by the Waco Tribune.
Blatant propaganda lies.
Furthermore, the warrant only specified that David Kresh, no others, nobody else.
They all knew that David Kress was frequently seen in town alone, frequently made trips to town.
Whenever the sheriff would call him and ask him to come into his office, he would do so voluntarily.
When someone in the local community who owned a gun shop said that the BATF was asking about the weapons that the Branch Davidians possessed, David Kress said, tell them to come on out and see me.
I'll show them everything we have.
We don't have anything illegal.
These are facts, ladies and gentlemen.
This is not conjecture.
I'm not making this up.
I've investigated Waco probably as much or more than anyone in this nation.
In fact, I was there broadcasting on the scene.
In fact, it was my broadcast one memorable night when I warned the entire world via this broadcast that unless Americans went down there en masse That's where I first saw Linda Thompson.
and that church that all of those people inside would be murdered that very night. The radio
station this one that you're listening to on shortwave WWCR was burned to the ground.
That's where I first saw Linda Thompson in a valiant effort to save those people inside
that church. She stood in a parking lot in camouflage dress waving an AR-15 over her
head vainly trying to muster a militia.
There's a lot of people that were killed in that church.
And I knew right then, I had met America's Joan of Arc.
Without a doubt.
You see, there's not probably five men in the country who would have had the guts to do what she did on that day.
Approximately twenty-five people showed up with weapons.
On their way toward the compound, they were surrounded by police and dispersed.
But they tried.
No one else did.
The next statement that the BATF issued when America questioned the fact that the Branch
Davidians were going to commit mass suicide because if they were, why were they fighting
Why didn't they just commit mass suicide?
So they changed their story.
Now, it wasn't because the Branch Davidians were going to commit mass suicide.
Now it's because they had information that the Branch Davidians, and this is all recorded, ladies and gentlemen, on miles of videotape over that 51 days.
No, the Branch Davidians were going to make an armed raid on Waco, Texas and kill all the people that lived there.
Another lie.
You see, the fact is, is that One of the Branch Davidians who had a federal firearms license had most of the weapons that were owned by the Branch Davidians at a gun show trying to sell them to raise money for the church.
That also is documented.
And at that gun show, probably over five or six hundred people saw him there with all of these weapons attempting to sell them.
They did not own any machine guns, not even one.
None whatsoever.
Period.
They had no hand grenades.
They had no rocket launchers.
They had no rockets.
They had no anti-tank weapons.
They had no armor-piercing shells.
See, where are your brains, ladies and gentlemen?
If they had these weapons, If they had these weapons, let me tell you something.
If I had been in that building with all those people and I had those weapons, I would have won that war.
Hands down, no contest, no problem.
See, I fought in Vietnam.
I know how to do it.
I know how to use weapons like that.
These people were attacked by armor.
armored personnel carriers, tanks, tanks, not only just tanks, but tanks that had flamethrowers on them.
Now, you all thought Linda Thompson was crazy.
Linda Thompson may have made a couple of mistakes, but she did her very best in the shortest period of time with what she had to raise the consciousness of the American people about what really happened in Waco, Texas.
And if she had not done that, none of you would give a damn about those people right this moment, I can assure you.
You ought to be ashamed of yourselves for attacking her.
You owe her a great debt of gratitude.
Without her warning, without her guts, the New World Order might have come a lot sooner.
Americans might have been enslaved a lot sooner.
than the ultimate we will be if they don't start thinking.
There were military psychological warfare teams on site using military psychological warfare techniques and technology against the Branch Davidians.
Using huge speakers, blaring the sounds of rabbits being slaughtered.
These boots were made for walking.
And a lot of other terrible things.
There were members of the British SAS on site, and British aircraft were used with forward and downward looking infrared to scan the buildings and the walls and locate where the Branch Davidians actually were.
Now, I've heard many Christians tell me right to my face, and it took every The fit of willpower that I had not to take my fist and smash them in the nose.
I didn't.
I thank God that I didn't.
But the urge was there and it was overpowering to hear Christians, such hypocrites.
Most Christians I've ever met in my life are the biggest hypocrite liars I've ever seen.
And that's the truth.
And I'm a Christian.
I hate to say that, but it's true.
As soon as they see something they don't like, or as soon as something might become uncomfortable, or they might have to take a risk, or they might be considered politically incorrect, they don't behave like Christians.
I've heard many of them tell me to my face, quote, Oh, they were just a bunch of religious fanatics.
They deserved to die.
End quote.
Not one.
Not to many.
I heard it on talk radio.
I saw it on television.
I heard ministers in churches on Sunday morning, these big great evangelists.
Judas goats are what they are.
Talking about how their congregation should not fall into the cultish ways of the same thing that happened to Branch Davidians might happen to them, and they might lose their 501c3 status.
Oh, heaven forbid!
What would Jesus say if He were here today to hear that?
I think He'd be throwing more than money changers and tables out of the temple.
I think He'd be throwing these people out, too.
The next thing that was said was, don't go away.
The next thing that was said was. Don't go away. I'll be right back. After the short
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the on July the 17th 1995. That is tape number 655 in our catalog.
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He had his own show while this was going on, which David Kress used to listen to, and he sent word out that he wanted to talk to Craig So they set it up.
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Well, the government didn't like what was transpiring.
They didn't like the fact that the American people were hearing what was going on.
So they put a stop to that real quick.
But a little bit of the truth got out.
And whenever he could, Craig, being a good Christian and a good man, and he would have done this whether he was a Buddhist or whatever, because he is a good man.
Attempted to prevent the loss of life.
He tried over the radio to talk the Branch Davidians into coming out before anybody got killed.
But you see, they weren't going to come out.
They weren't going to come out because they were Americans.
They prized their freedom.
They relished their freedom of religion.
They put their God above everything else.
And their home had been attacked.
They were in the right.
Why should they come out?
Why?
Done since the beginning of this country, they protected their home and their church.
Thank you.
They weren't the first ones who ever done this.
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I've got a lot more to talk about.
And it's all important.
Ladies and gentlemen, I just realized that I made a big error when I told you that Pooh was three years old when she did the pledge at the beginning of this broadcast.
She started doing the pledge on this broadcast when she was three years old, but when this broadcast was done, she had just turned five years old two months before.
In fact, not even two months.
A month and a half.
Her birthday is May the 30th.
So I apologize for that.
I certainly didn't intend to mislead anybody.
Waco.
The Waco Massacre was a massacre.
People who live in Waco, Texas, I don't care who they are, should be ashamed of themselves.
I've made a vow never to drive through that city or spend a nickel in Waco, Texas for the rest of my life no matter what.
I will not do it.
And I recommend that the rest of you don't do it.
You see, the people in that town had a carnival atmosphere.
I was there.
I was watching it.
They loved it!
All of the federal agents and the attention and the gawkers and the looky-loos that came to town spent a lot of money there.
And the people in Wickelton's aided up.
Smiles from ear to ear.
They had a BATF celebration day.
They had a big billboard erected by the side of the highway thanking the BATF and the FBI for all the business that they brought Waco, Texas.
Can you imagine this?
We went out to eat, you know, almost every night.
We didn't have a kitchen in our motel room.
And everybody was smiling and happy and just having a great old time.
And me and my efforts together, intelligence, it was very fruitful.
sought out the places where the BATF and the FBI went to drink.
And they drink a lot.
Some of them, not all of them, some of them don't drink at all.
But the ones that drink, drink a lot.
And I would just go and hang around.
They would talk a lot, too.
And ladies and gentlemen, I made a vow while I was there.
There will be no more Waco's in this country ever.
And if I have to give my life to prevent that, I will gladly do it.
I'll be there either first or right on the heels of whoever's first getting there.
And if I'm not there first, it'll probably be Linda Thompson.
Only this time, if it ever happens again, I'll take an army with me.
And I mean it.
There will be no more Waco, Texas in the United States of America.
Period.
If they even think in their wildest dreams that they can pull another Waco off, it'll be the last wildest dream that they ever have.
I'm not making threats.
I'm telling you the truth.
I'm telling you facts.
This is the way it's going to be.
There's not going to be another way for Texas.
I'm never going to sit and watch on television or in person Americans in a church being attacked by overwhelming forces, by tanks, by psychological warfare teams and technology, by armored personnel carriers.
Never.
And they said they had to do this to save the children.
The butcher of Waco, Reno, butcher Janet Reno, said they had to do this to save the children.
Now, if they really wanted to save the children, all they had to do was put their guns down and go home.
And go home.
Because the next thing that they told the world that they were there for was not that they were going to commit mass suicide.
Not that they were going to raid the city of Waco, Texas and kill everybody in Waco, Texas.
And all this is documented, folks.
They're the ones who issued these press releases.
It was recorded on television.
We have the videotapes.
All of it.
These people lied from beginning to end.
They are nothing but scum.
Nazi, jackbooted, Gascapo scum.
And now they're scared because there's going to be an investigation.
And Clinton's trying to protect himself by finally doing what he should have done when it happened.
They're starting to fire people, change them around, demote them and stuff.
And they think that that's going to make us back off.
Well, it's not.
We're never going to back off.
No.
In fact, Veritas and the Intelligence Service of the Second Continental Army of the Republic is offering a reward.
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Remember, this is a rerun.
We do not want you to send checks for the reward fund.
That went out of existence a long time ago, and in fact, it never was, because the little amount we got was returned to everybody who sent it, because we only got just a few checks.
You can't offer any reward that's going to be effective with just, you know, $50.
It doesn't work.
That's how much people cared at the time.
Fund.
Now, whoever provides the information in or out of the government, I don't care.
It can cause the arrest of the butcher of Waco, Janet Reno, William Clinton, the head of the FBI and the BATF at that time on the scene, and the heads in Washington.
Who had to approve and order what they did or they wouldn't have been able to do it.
The arrest and conviction of these people will give you every penny that we collect.
Every single penny and we've already got a substantial amount.
Nobody's going to touch those funds except whoever provides the information.
Now back to what I was talking about.
to get off on these sidetracks, but you needed to know that.
The next thing they said was that the children were being molested and sexually abused.
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The children were being molested and sexually abused and these charges were brought about by one Mark Brough.
Mark Brough.
Now first let me tell you about Mark Brough and then you'll know that his charges are absolutely asinine, stupid, could not possibly have taken place.
And besides that there were two separate investigations conducted by the child welfare people In the state of Texas.
And I'll tell you about the results of those investigations in a few moments.
You can also get the results of those investigations just like we did by going to them.
You can also talk to the local sheriff in that county who interfaced with David Kresh on many instances and said that he was never a threat to anybody.
Period.
I met Mark Burrow when I did a speaking tour of Hawaii.
During one of my talks at a church in Honolulu, during the intermission, a woman led a blind man up to me.
Led him by the arm because he was stumbling and bumping into chairs and would not have made it to me if she had not led him by the arm.
I'd never seen this man before.
Didn't know him from Adam.
She introduced him to me as a prophet of God.
And I said, yeah, sure, so am I. I said, oh no, I'm very serious.
This is Mark Bro.
He's a prophet.
A real prophet.
I said, well, very happy to meet you.
I was standing just a little to the right of being in front of him because there were chairs and other people standing around.
And he was looking off to my left.
Actually believing that he was looking into my face as I was talking to him.
He was blind as a bat, couldn't see me, not more than a foot and a half in front of his face.
Everywhere he went, he was led by the arm by this woman.
So Mark Bell lied.
He never saw anything.
He couldn't see anything.
He's blind.
He cannot see anything.
And I can tell you that from my own experience, and if you don't believe, he was at my lecture, and if you don't believe that I met him, I have it on videotape.
I have my whole lecture.
I videotape every lecture I ever do.
It's right there.
You can see me standing there, him standing there, the lady carrying him up by the arm, and us talking, and him staring off into space.
He had glasses on, and folks, I'm not making fun of people who wear glasses.
I wear glasses myself.
But his glasses were approximately a good quarter inch thick, approaching a half inch.
And I'm not exaggerating.
He had on the thickest glasses that I've ever seen on any human being in my life, and he still could not see me standing directly in front of him.
And all of this stuff about child abuse and child molestation is based upon the testimony of Mark Breaux, blind as a bat.
I was amazed when he was questioned that nobody gave him a vision test.
Nobody held anything in front of his face and asked him to read it or ask him to describe it or anything.
Nobody did it.
So I questioned, I really, really, really questioned.
The attorneys involved in all of this decide where they really are.
And I don't know them, and I could be completely wrong, but it seems to me that somebody would have done that, but they didn't.
Now, here's the truth about the investigations conducted by the Texas Child Welfare Services into the allegations made by Mark Brooks because he'd been making these allegations for a long time.
And the reason that he was making these allegations is he was trying to take over the leadership of the church from David Koresh.
Eventually, he caused so many problems and so much hate and discontent and divisiveness amongst the members of the church that everybody, all at once, decided that this guy had to go and they kicked him out.
They just threw him out of the church.
So he went to Hawaii to be a prophet, and that's where I met him.
The Child Welfare Services in the state of Texas state unequivocally that they investigated on two separate occasions thorough investigations of the allegations of child abuse and child sexual molestation by the Branch Davidians, by David Kresh in particular, and found no substantiation to any of the allegations whatsoever.
In fact, they stated in their report that the Branch Davidian children, on the whole, were the happiest, most well-adjusted children of any group that they had ever investigated in their history.
It's in the reports, folks.
Don't believe me.
Get them and read them yourself.
As always, listen to everyone, read everything, believe absolutely nothing unless you check it out for yourself.
So, what was this all about?
Well, nobody really knows.
Nobody really knows.
We've got a lot of clues.
We've got a lot of speculation.
But only those people who actually did this really know what they were doing.
I would guess, by the coordination of the different organizations, military, BATF, FBI, Texas officials, And the British SAS, and yes, also some American Special Forces people were there, and the psychological operations teams, that it was a test of their ability to do it, number one, to be able to propagandize the American people into accepting it, number two, and number three, instill the fear of God in everybody who lives in this country so that they will never
ever resist the federal government in anything that they ever attempt to do.
But that's only an educated guess.
I cannot prove that.
And I want you to know that.
So don't go out and say that I said that this is what it was for.
This is what it looks like to me that it was for.
But there's no proof to substantiate that anywhere.
If there is any proof, I hope it comes out in these hearings, if these hearings are fair, if they are actually conducted in reality, like they should be, and if they start with the first lie and go through to the last.
One reporter, ladies and gentlemen, one reporter, stood up during one of the press conferences and said, are we seeing the beginnings of a police state in America?
Well, ladies and gentlemen, he was placed under arrest.
Now, tell me about the Constitution and the first article in amendment that protects the freedom of speech and the freedom of the press and all that.
Tell me all about it.
He was arrested, thrown in jail.
No charges.
No reason.
No court hearing.
No nothing.
When the word got out and people began to call and legal representatives began to show up on behalf of this man,
he was mysteriously just released.
All of us who attempted to do real reporting and real journalistic investigation were harassed to the max.
And I mean to the max.
While I was taking photographs, one BATF agent walked directly toward me, pulling his gun up a couple of inches out of his holster in a threatening manner, and told me to give him my camera.
I refused, and continued taking pictures of it.
Oh, he was angry.
And I'm sure if all the other people had not been there watching, he would have shot me.
on the spot.
But I still wasn't going to give him my camera.
Then, since he knew I wasn't going to give him my camera, he demanded I give him the film.
I told him no.
And I held up my press credentials and told him that I was protected by the First Article and Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America, and he wasn't too impressed by that.
What he was impressed by was the twenty or so odd people standing around watching.
That's what scared him.
Scared him so bad of the fact that I had his picture in my camera that he grabbed his buddy and they got in their vehicle and left real quick.
So, that's some kind of a lesson that we learned.
Linda was arrested also.
And many other people.
And I want to tell you this without any doubt whatsoever.
They lied from beginning to end.
When the fire started, we had people downwind to try to find, see if they could smell tear gas.
Or CS gas.
And these were Vietnam veterans and knew the smell.
They tell you it's outlied in war, so is the .50 caliber machine gun against personnel, but we used it in Vietnam against personnel.
And the Viet Cong and the North Vietnamese Army used .51 caliber machine guns against us.
We used tear gas and we used CS gas in Vietnam all the time.
And old Bobo Grits, you know, Lieutenant Colonel James Bobo Grits?
Well, he went on radio all during this time and said, CS gas is illegal!
You can't use it in war!
We never had it in Vietnam!
We were not allowed to have it.
We were not allowed to use it.
And he lied.
Just like he's lied so many other times.
Because in his own book he talks about Somebody accidentally setting off a canister of CS gas in his camp and the big chaos that it caused.
Now, if you don't believe me, go read his book.
People criticize me an awful lot.
An awful lot.
They say I'm supposed to walk down the middle and compromise and all this other crap.
And I won't do it.
I'm going to fight this battle according to my principles and ideals and according to what I understand this nation to be founded upon.
And I'm going to do my best to restore the Constitution to its rightful place as the supreme law of the land.
And I will do it until the day that I die come hell or high water.
I don't care what anybody thinks.
I don't care what they call me.
I don't care what they think about me.
I don't care about the criticism.
In fact, there are so many people standing in line to criticize me and call me names that you've got a long way to walk just to get to the back.
You can get right in line with Tim Lesperance.
He's in the back right now.
and all the rest of them turn coats.
Don't let these people in Washington fool you.
Traditionally, when the Congress holds an investigation, it's to slough over the real facts, to throw the public a couple of bones.
They'll fire a couple of people, or censure a couple of people, or maybe charge one or two people, and it'll be over with.
Just like Iran-Contra.
Now, Ollie North, who lied to Congress, was in the business of trading guns for drugs as some kind of big hero.
How did that happen?
He testified in Congress, and so did Poindexter, that they were ready and willing to suspend
the Constitution to reach their ends if the need arose.
The Illuminati have a saying.
Thank you.
A nation or world of people who will not use their intelligence are no better than animals who have no intelligence.
Such people are beasts of burden and stakes on the table by choice and consent.
And in fact, are our legal and lawful prey.
And when I say our, I'm not talking about me.
I'm quoting them.
And for most people, I've got to tell you, they are generally right.
You don't like to hear that either, but it's the truth.
You've seen the cartoon that we run in Veritas over and over and over and over again.
Someday you'll all get the message.
I hope it's during my lifetime.
Before I die, I would like to be assured that Pooh has a chance to live in freedom for the rest of her life without fear.
I'd really like to see that.
And for your children and your grandchildren also.
I hope that you feel the same way.
Now, get on your phones and on your fax machines and start writing your letters.
And start leaning on Congress and tell them, this isn't going to die.
Until the real culprits are brought to justice and the real reasons for this are aired like the dirty laundry in public.
And that it's never going to happen again.
Because if it ever does, ladies and gentlemen, I guarantee you, there will be civil war in the United States of America.
That's not a threat.
That's a promise.
Good night, and God bless you all.
All of a sudden, in the middle of the night, there's a loud knock on your door.
Hey, honey.
Something's not right.
Scratch your arms.
And step out faster.
We're here for the government.
We're here to help you.
And I'm from the I.R.S.
with a party hat!
If you've got a complaint, then you're the best!
Get out of this house, surrender your taxes, give me your gold, and you'll have no pain, for one example.
Something to think about before you go to sleep tonight.
As the B.A.T.F.
was raiding the building and shooting at the Branch Davidians, and the helicopters were shooting down from the sky, David Koresh bravely stood in the door and raised his hands and called for them to stop.
He yelled, there's women and children inside.
Please, let's talk.
Don't do this.
Let's talk.
and they shot him.
This is the Voice of Freedom.
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you this is the voice of freedom
this is the voice of freedom this is the voice of freedom
this is the voice of freedom this is the voice of freedom
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