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July 24, 1995 - Bill Cooper

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Aaron Zelman, JPFO

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	The End
	The End I'm William Cooper, and you're listening to the Hour of the Time.
	I'm William Cooper, and you're listening to the Hour of the Time.
	And around here, what a time it is.
	After our broadcast on Friday night, folks, we went outside to find that our tire had been slipped all the way around in what Tim Lesburn calls skinning a tire. - Sure.
	Problem is, he's told everybody that he knows how to do that trick and nobody else knows how to do it.
	So, we didn't report it to the police.
	We know who did it.
	We're in the process of getting confirmation from the tire company that the tire was indeed slit and was not a sidewall failure.
	And if any of you have heard Tim talk about how he does it and want to see what it looks like when it's completed, just come on by anytime when I'm here, or up to the house and we'll be happy to show you.
	Annie and Pooh are terrified, so now she drives, and I ride shotgun literally.
	For those of you who were looking for the manual to send to the investigating committee on Waco, it can be purchased from N-T-I-S.
	N-T-I-S.
	The number is 703-487-4684.
	is 703-487-4684.
	That's 703-487-4684.
	Ask for the Military Publications Order Desk.
	Get a copy.
	I hope 500 of you get copies.
	And send it to the investigative committee who claim that they can't get their hands on one.
	It is the manual.
	The operations manual on the use of CS gas.
	Also... Oops.
	We've lost our other working team here.
	Never fear, though.
	Everything will be done.
	Everything will get out.
	You will get your Veritas.
	All the people who have not received their membership package yet, it's being mailed out.
	It will be in your mailbox within two weeks.
	It took a while for some of the background investigations and, of course, the bombing in Oklahoma City brought everything to a screeching halt as the entire service devoted every bit of its effort to the investigation of what went on there.
	Also, the liberals and socialists are running mad, and I mean mad.
	They can't believe that everything is turned around and the hearings are proving everything that we said we found in that investigation in Waco, Texas.
	It is a terrible story that is coming out, ladies and gentlemen, and it's enough to strike fear in the heart of every American across this country.
	Also, the very people who were calling the militias and patriots of this nation racist have turned out to be the real racists.
	The BATF and other law enforcement agencies holding a party in the woods with a big sign tacked onto a tree.
	Niggers, check in here.
	Ladies and gentlemen, I never would have dreamed that this could happen in the United States of America.
	I never would have believed it in my wildest Wildest dream in my imagination gone berserk.
	But here it is.
	Last night I went to bed with a copy of Julius Caesar, the latest edition, well-researched, probably better than any other ever written.
	And guess what?
	What is happening today not only happened in Nazi Germany in the 1930s, but it happened in the Roman Empire and in fact brought the Roman Empire to its knees.
	Don't go away.
	We have a very, very special guest tonight, a man that I deeply admire.
	He is a true American.
	He understands the divide and conquer principle.
	He is the Executive Director of the Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership, and we'll be right back to talk with him.
	Don't go away.
	where you don't want to miss one single moment of tonight's broadcast.
	My country,
	tears of thee, sweet tears of thee, sweet rain of liberty, of being my sin.
	Land where my father died, Land of the pilgrim's pride, From every mountainside, let freedom ring.
	Thank you.
	Thy woods and template hills My heart beats fast, it feels like summer.
	Thank you.
	Welcome, Aaron Zellman.
	Aaron, are you there?
	Hello?
	Can you hear me all right?
	I got you now.
	All right.
	Good to be with you.
	Well, I'm certainly happy, pleased, and I think most of the listening audience have been looking forward to this with great anticipation.
	Why don't you give us a little background on who you are and what your organization is all about, how this got started, and then we'll get into some very interesting facts.
	I started Youth for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership about six years ago, this coming October.
	I thought it was important to have a platform to speak from publicly to challenge the leadership, in double quotes, of the Jewish community.
	That supports gun control and takes the position that they speak for virtually all Jews in the community.
	And to let them know that they could not be more wrong and to publicly challenge them to stop doing dangerously stupid things, particularly supporting gun control.
	So that was the reason for starting the organization.
	And our focus is, we have a very single focus, and that is the total destruction of gun control worldwide.
	Now there's a real good reason for that, Aaron, one which you certainly have... The reason from our perspective is, simply put, that gun control has proven itself to be the key to genocide.
	In one of our books called Lethal Laws, where we publish the actual gun control laws from the countries that have had the major genocides since the turn of the century, every single one of these genocides was preceded by gun control.
	And the gun control laws that were passed in the South Russia, Nazi Germany, and now China, the Ottoman Empire, and Idi Amin for Uganda, and so on and so forth, are really not much different than the gun control laws that are now being promoted in America, in Canada, and Australia.
	Now, there's been an awful lot of talk that the 1968 gun legislation was actually a carbon copy of that, that the first gun legislation that was pushed through the Reichstag in Germany in the 30s, Is there any substance to that?
	Let me give you a little more insight into that.
	In another book we did called, The Gun Control Gateway to Tyranny, we explained to people that the Nazis did not bring gun control to Germany, but in fact, this is the dangerous part about gun control.
	They inherited it.
	And it was put on the books by the do-good, feel-good crowd of the Weimar Republic in 1928, which was five years before the mad creature came to power.
	And there, 1928, they registered all guns and gun owners.
	And they took a group of people called Gypsies, Romani, and they forbid them to own firearms.
	That was in 1928.
	When the Nazis came to power, they simply took over the registration list.
	And the registration forms were so thorough, Let me give you an example.
	1928 in the Weimar Republic, they had a permit system.
	And the permit system was so thorough, one would have to have a permit to go hunting, to buy ammunition, to give a firearm to someone in your family.
	You had to have a permit, you had to renew your permits all the time just to own a firearm.
	So five years of all these permits, It was so thorough that when the Nazis came to power, they did not have to pass any new gun control laws until 1938.
	And there they passed two main laws.
	One was a handgun control bill.
	And the other was, the day after Kristallnacht, November 11, 1938, a bill, a gun control bill forbidding Jews from guns, clubs, or knives.
	So the Nazis proved how efficient and how well gun control works.
	And in fact, where the Weimar Republic had not so strictly enforced it, they enforced it to the letter.
	Oh, absolutely.
	And the 1938... They had to enforce it, by the way.
	Yeah.
	If you remember when the Nazis came to power, they had to make a deal with the National Socialists there.
	I'm sorry, was it the Communists?
	Who did they have to make a deal with?
	It was the Communists.
	The Communists, yes.
	Because they only had 44% of the vote.
	That's right.
	Now, all this time that this was taking place in Germany, was there such a thing as a militia amongst the German people?
	for Germany.
	They thought that it was going down, not up.
	So they had to make sure that their opposition did not have access to firearms, particularly the general populace.
	Now, all this time that this was taking place in Germany, was there such thing as a militia amongst the German people?
	Or is that something unique to America?
	There was a, in William Allen Sheridan's book, The Nazi Seizure of Power, he talked about a group which I guess you could say was loosely similar to the National Rifle Association.
	Uh-huh.
	But it was not exactly a militia.
	But they capitulated quickly and offered no resistance to the Nazis.
	That's reminiscent of some of the statements Some of the backdowns that the NRA have done lately, but they seem to be coming back a little stronger than they were.
	Well, I'd say, quite frankly, JPFO has a philosophical difference with the NRA.
	We've shown them all the evidence how the late Senator Thomas Dodd of Connecticut had actually used the 1938 Nazi gun control laws as a model for the 1968 Gun Control Act.
	The NRA has just run away from this information.
	That's correct, they have.
	When we showed them the information about our gun controls and the key to genocide, they've run away from this information.
	When we talk to these folks, you know, Neil Knox and Tanya Metaxka and Wayne LaPierre and Tom Washington about destroying gun control, they look at it as if it's some kind of nonsense term.
	And why do you think, do you think that they're, that they have an agenda?
	Or do you think that they're innocent in that regard?
	I think that going back to, you were talking about the book you were reading and you were looking at the history of Julius Caesar and what's going on in America today and other countries.
	I think there are folks running the NRA who could be best described as relics of the Cold War.
	They have made a business out of fighting gun control.
	When you talk to them about killing the golden goose that lays the egg, destroying gun control, they're not interested in hearing that.
	So that's really what makes the organization work, then, is what you're saying?
	Well, they self-fear.
	There's really no difference, you know.
	From my perspective, Handgun Control Incorporated and the National Rifle Association are the best of enemies.
	You take an issue, you politicize it, you get around, and you make money.
	Well, this sounds like Hegel at his desk.
	It's just like anti-defamation.
	You know, you cry anti-Semitism and the money comes rolling in.
	Well, you know what's incredible to me, Aaron, and I know that you've certainly had your battles with the ADL, and we'll talk about that in a little bit.
	Personally, we've come up with a way to silence the ADL, so I'm glad we're going to talk about that later.
	Yeah, well I am too.
	And especially because there are so many people who call here with all the wrong idea about the ADO and about Jews and about racism and all of this kind of stuff.
	And I think that what you're going to say tonight is going to really put a lot of these people in their place.
	And that's exactly where they should be.
	I don't mean to hurt them, but certainly to bring out some truths that some people need to hear.
	I think also that it's extremely important that, well, let me finish what I started to say.
	I find it absolutely incredible that whenever these, not all of them, but certainly some, anti-Semitic incidents take place, such as the painting of swastikas on synagogues and things like that, almost immediately there's a fundraising letter in the mailbox of the Jewish neighborhoods as if Some gigantic hand upstairs is guiding this, and I really don't like that.
	I mean, that's scary.
	Well, I think you have to understand some of these Jewish organizations.
	The Simon Wiesenthal Center and the Anti-Defamation League, just to take two.
	They have what I call a victim mindset.
	They're still living in a ghetto, an Eastern European ghetto.
	They haven't learned to enjoy the freedom that America promises everybody who lives here.
	And they fear freedom.
	And they've never quite left the ghetto.
	To give you a little more historical perspective, if I may, when Moses took the Israelites, when he led them out of Egypt, out of slavery, and into the desert, they complained to him because they found freedom to be a harsh existence.
	They had to fend for themselves.
	They prefer they wanted to go back to the slavery.
	And this mindset is still prevalent with many Jews today.
	Not Jews like me, or more conservative Jews, but many of the reformed Jews as I call them, or even some conservative Jews.
	They just haven't learned to appreciate freedom.
	They fear it.
	You know, when we were discussing your appearance on this broadcast, you told me a wonderful story.
	One that I did not know.
	And I wonder if you would tell that to our listening audience about the financing of the Revolutionary War.
	Oh, sure.
	Part and parcel of financing the Revolutionary War, you know, there was Governor Morris who was always trying to raise money for George Washington and the troops.
	But Governor Morris had other people help him.
	Well, lesser known folks of the American Revolution who helped raise money not only for the Army, but for people like James Madison and other folks who were trying to make the Revolution a success, was a young Jewish man.
	He came from Poland to America.
	His name was Chaim Solomon.
	And Chaim Solomon had two special gifts.
	One, he'd been trained as a banker.
	In Europe, and he had lived in different European capitals, perfecting his craft.
	And two, he was a polyglot.
	He was fluent in six different languages.
	And he was able to convince people around the world to believe in freedom, to believe in liberty, and to buy continental dollars.
	And he helped raise just enormous sums of money, millions of dollars, for the Continental Congress.
	So they could finance the American Revolution.
	Now that was a great feat because at that time the Continental Dollar was nothing but a piece of paper like what we're using today.
	It wasn't for quite a few years that we began to get mining up and mint enough coins in gold and silver to replace the paper with real money.
	In fact, the Continental Dollar today, a real one, probably worth a whole lot more than it was then.
	Oh yeah.
	Without a doubt.
	So Haim Solomon was able to convince people to part with their money.
	He also used his good name to stand behind some of these loans from people.
	He also was a spy for George Washington.
	He spied against the British for George Washington.
	He was caught twice by the British and almost hanged.
	He was able to talk his way out one time.
	And the other time was to bribe his way up.
	He died in his early 40s from tuberculosis and technically bankrupt.
	Because at the end of the war, those dollars didn't have any value.
	He had a large holding of them.
	And so his assets equaled his liabilities and he was technically bankrupt.
	So he never lived to see the Constitution of the United States and the Bill of Rights.
	But he made it possible for every hate monger in America today to spew forth their venom.
	So for all the David Dukes of the world, I just want you to know that a Jew made it possible for you to, you know, be obnoxious.
	And that's absolutely important that that stays that way, isn't it?
	That we do... I have no problem with people who are anti-Semitic or bigots or racists from the standpoint that America should be free enough Yeah, provided they do not injure the person or property of any other human.
	That's our stance.
	That's the stance of the Constitution Party.
	We believe that we all do have a common bond, and aside from all the efforts of people who have agendas to manipulate us against each other, Americans are eventually going to realize that our common bond is liberty, and we better stand together to preserve that.
	or we're going to all go down in chains.
	And this has happened over and over and over again throughout the history of the world.
	It just comes in cycles, and people forget history, and they forget to be vigilant, and they just give it all up.
	Wow.
	You know, I'm really happy that you're here, Aaron.
	I think there's another way to look at what you've been saying, you know, to kind of sum it up.
	I think since the history of time, there's a phrase that we're popular, that we like to use around here.
	It's real popular with us.
	We call it dangerous stupidity.
	And there's been an awful lot of that since the history of time.
	There's always been a group of people who think they can do a better job at running the world than anyone else, and they find people who follow along with them blindly and not think clearly about what these folks are offering.
	And so it always has different names.
	It'll be National Socialism, or Communism, or just regular Socialism, or Liberalism, or what have you.
	They're all brought about the same thing, dangerous stupidity.
	And we've got lots of folks in the beltway, I think, who demonstrate that daily as to how dangerous and stupid they are.
	Without a doubt.
	And what amazes me is some of these people had a life coming up where they didn't get along too well in society.
	And that bothers me that these people who couldn't get along well in society and were rioting in the streets are now calling people who are not rioting in the streets the enemy.
	This is really strange.
	Well, it's really what you call a new American zoo.
	The law-abiding citizen is behind the bars that are locked up in their home and the animals are running loose in the street.
	Well, that certainly seems to be the case.
	Or another way to put it, the lunatics have taken over the asylum.
	Absolutely.
	Now, Aaron, Jews for the Preservation of Firearms ownership is not strictly a Jewish organization.
	Anyone can join.
	Isn't that apparent?
	We have a vast membership.
	It's a broad spectrum of Americans, and also Canadians, and some people from Australia, England, Israel, Germany, France, who have joined.
	I understand how important freedom is and I understand that gun control is not something you simply fight.
	It's something you destroy.
	It's a cancer.
	It must be eliminated permanently worldwide.
	And so our membership is open to people who can grasp that concept that fighting gun control is not the answer.
	Destroying it so that it's dead is really the only way to deal with the concept of gun control.
	You know, we are a tax-exempt educational and civil rights organization, so because of that structure, we don't wine and dine politicians.
	And it's been our position that the way to really destroy gun control in America, the way to take this country back and to make freedom reign again, is by reaching out to the masses of people and educating them at the grassroots level, instead of wining and dining politicians.
	I have a theory about politicians.
	If they're in Washington for more than four months, they're lost.
	So I think we'd make sure that term limits.
	There'll be four months where they're gone.
	And you know, in this society we have today, they really don't have any reason to come home if they get comfortable there and they actually move their family there, do they?
	Except to talk to their constituents if they think that they can take time out to do that.
	Yeah.
	It certainly seems a sad state of affairs.
	Well, in the early days of this country, a man could not get used to Washington D.C.
	and say he's not going to go home because then his whole property, his crops, everything that he did would just go to waste.
	That's correct.
	Unless he had some grown sons that were responsible enough to take care of it.
	Then he might find that they took it away from him while he was gone.
	But anyway, before we get into one of the main subjects that we agreed to discuss tonight, Let's bring up the topic of the militia.
	We've got about five minutes before I've got to take a break.
	Let's talk about that.
	What is the position of the Jews for the preservation of the firearm ownership on the militia?
	We're very much in favor of the militia concept.
	We think that it's about as American as apple pie.
	In fact, from our perspective, the Maccabees, Judah Maccabee, the Maccabees were really a Jewish militia.
	And so we're very supportive of the militia concept.
	And we would like to see more and more people get involved in militias.
	But perhaps more so in the cities.
	And take this concept of the militia to the average folks in the cities.
	And get them more accustomed to what the heritage is all about.
	The militia concept.
	There's an article I sent you dealing with American militia, the Battle of Athens, Tennessee.
	I think you have a chance to look at it, I'm not sure.
	No, I didn't get that.
	I got two pages.
	Okay, I'll have to send it to you.
	But to make a long story short, to give you an example of how effective the militia is, 49 years ago in America, on August 1st through the 2nd, 1946, Americans returning from the Pacific and European theater of war, Came home to McMinn County, Tennessee, and they found appalling examples of government gone bad in their own hometown.
	The Kinfolk have been writing them letters about the brutal local politicians and the rigged elections and the schemes of crooked gambling and moonshining and claiming people were drunk and throwing them in jail and not letting them out unless they paid a fine.
	Things like this were going on.
	They started the G.I.
	Party.
	The G.I.s couldn't take this nonsense anymore.
	And, lo and behold, on Election Day, the corrupt Cantrell family that had been running McMinn County for years brought in 200 armed thugs and tried to disrupt the voting and even shot some G.I.s who tried to vote And even took one black man there and said, nigger, you're not voting here today, and shot him.
	Long story short, by nightfall, the G.I.s realized, particularly after the ballot boxes were stolen... That's what I was going to ask you.
	It wasn't a fact that they just marched in and stole the ballot boxes.
	Exactly.
	That they had no choice but to join together as the militia.
	They went to the local armory, broke in with a truck, took the guns out, Some of the farmers brought along some dynamite and volunteered their shotguns.
	And they opened fire on the Cantrell family that was holding up in the local jail.
	And the militia had an eight-hour shootout with these armed thugs and the Cantrells.
	Finally blew the door off the jail and got the ballot boxes back out and had an honest count.
	And the folks on the G.I.
	party were elected.
	Great.
	all the public offices.
	So it's an honest example of 49 years ago how the militia came together and used their firearms to get rid of corrupt brutal politicians and have honest elections.
	It's a story that everyone in the militia should be reading and sharing with other people.
	We do have copies of it by the way and we can talk about how to get that later on.
	Great.
	And by the way folks there are hundreds, literally hundreds of other stories of where the militia in the traditional history of this country has actually kept the country on track, kept government legal and lawful, have taken their towns and counties back from have taken their towns and counties back from outlaws, fought as units in the civil war, in the Spanish American war, in the revolutionary war, in
	In fact, if there had been no militia in this country, there would be no country.
	Don't go away.
	I'll be right back after this short pause.
	Amen.
	America! .
	America!
	And the dream goes on!
	America!
	America!
	America And the dream goes on There's a song in the dust of a country road On a winky comfortable Oh, And it sings in the farms and the factory towns, and where you think there'd be no song at all.
	And the words are the words that our fathers heard, as they whistled down to me.
	And the name of the song is the name of the dream, and it's music to our ears.
	America!
	America And the dream goes on Yes, folks, the dream does go on.
	No matter how bad it gets, no matter what happens, there are always and always have been and always will be those of us who hold the dream dear to our heart and will stand fast in the face of any danger, no matter what, even under death, for the preservation of liberty.
	So many people have given their lives for this country.
	We can do nothing other than what they have given as an example for their posterity for ever or for as long as this earth and the human race lasts that's what the word posterity means
	Now one of the things that is helping destroy this country that most people don't understand because they're not taught in school.
	Their parents don't teach them.
	And that is what is money, what is currency, what is the meaning of a note, why money is what it has been throughout history.
	Why the Bible names certain substances as money?
	Why our forefathers set up our economy the way that they did?
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	The word dollar is not money either.
	It's the unit of measurement and the purity of the silver coin or the equivalent value of gold coin.
	You see, a dollar can no longer, no more be money than a quart can be milk.
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	If it's dropped in value, it's because there has been so much absolutely incredible inflation.
	If it's gone up in value, then you're looking at the opposite.
	Money has been withheld.
	But it doesn't matter because what it can buy has always been the same.
	For instance, in 100 B.C., you could buy the same number of loaves of bread with one ounce of gold coin that you can today, or in 1910, or in 1311, or in 4000 B.C.
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	The words that we read on the courthouse wall are the words that make us free.
	And the more we remember the way we began, the closer we get to the best we can be.
	Well, welcome back, Gary.
	Hello.
	John here.
	Oh, okay.
	Let's get to the topic that you wanted to discuss tonight.
	You've made up a new bumper sticker here that I, when I saw it I just, almost tears came to my eyes.
	I never thought that I would see anything like that, and especially from a Jewish organization.
	But I do know that there are many Jewish people who know the agenda of the ADL, and you're certainly one of them.
	So why don't you tell me what this is all about?
	And basically, it says, the bumper sticker, folks, says, the ADL lies about militias Don't forget the bottom of the bumper sticker.
	We tell people where they can reach the ADL, the United Nations Plaza.
	That's correct.
	These folks don't know that.
	That's where their headquarters is, the United Nations Plaza.
	This is the first program that we've been on, Bill, where we can tell people about this Grassroots program we're starting.
	The campaign is called The ADL Wives.
	And what we're trying to do is to reach millions and millions of people and create a grassroots movement to tell the ADL, tell the truth, or shut up.
	And if they can't shut up, they may as well close their doors and go to some other country.
	I'll explain this to you.
	The ADL lies, and we start with militias.
	The ADL in the last several months has put out two reports dealing with militias.
	Poorly researched, poorly documented, but they don't hesitate to tar everyone with the same brush, that if they belong to a militia, that there's some kind of extremist or maybe an anti-Semite.
	Or if they believe in the Second Amendment gun ownership, again, there's some kind of extremist or an anti-Semite.
	And that somehow they're a danger to Jews.
	I'm going to give you an example of just how absurd and bizarre the ADL can be.
	There's a radio talk show host in Colorado who supports militias and he supports Second Amendment rights.
	Norm Resnick?
	Yes.
	And they have branded Norm Resnick, who is an Orthodox Jew, as some kind of danger and threat to Jews.
	Because he supports militias and gun ownership.
	You know, I've heard this before.
	I've never heard it first hand, but I've heard Jews tell me that there is such a thing as a Jew hating Jew.
	Well, I think there are some Jews... Well, we'll have to deal with that on a separate issue.
	What I wanted to bring up is, is that a real thing or is that a label they put on somebody who they can't say is anti-Semitic because they are Semitic?
	Well, I think it's a little more complex than that.
	To make a long story short, Which is why the other part of our bumper sticker deals with Judaism, is that what the ADL doesn't want to admit, because maybe they don't know it, because maybe they're not very Jewish, even though they like to brand other people as anti-Semitic, is that Jewish law is very clear when it comes to the concept of self-defense.
	And I sent the exact wording to you and I told you where people can find us in the Old Testament.
	Yep, I've got it right here in front of me.
	But, you know, it says, if someone comes to kill you, arise quickly and kill them.
	And that's from the Old Testament.
	It's also from the Talmud.
	And Jewish law is very clear.
	You do not waste your time negotiating with people who are coming to do you harm.
	You kill them.
	If you fear for your life and you fear they're coming to kill you, you are obligated by Jewish law, there's a mandate, to arise and kill them.
	If they come into your home at night, they are to be considered as dead.
	That's the wording, the commentary.
	Now, according to your reference here, it's taken, this is rooted actually in Exodus chapter 22, verse 1, and it occurs, let me see, it occurs twice in the section of the Talmud dealing with the blessings, tractate barakos?
	Barakos, yeah, on page 58A and 62B.
	Okay.
	That's the way I feel, and that's the way Norm Resnick feels.
	But the folks at the ADL who claim that they allege to be Jewish, this is something they can't abide by.
	Because any Jew who supports gun control, in effect, and the ADL does support gun control, they support the Brady Bill, and they supported the ban on semi-automatic military pattern weapons.
	You'll notice I don't use the word assault weapons.
	Assault weapons is an English translation of Sturmgewehr, which is a Nazi term.
	So I choose not to use Nazi terms.
	The ADL uses Nazi terms.
	The point is that the ADL of course would hate, I guess I can use that term, but they would hate a Jew like Norman Resnick or myself because we expose them for what they are, a fraud.
	And of course no one likes to be exposed as a fraud.
	But you know the old saying, the emperor has no clothes.
	Yes.
	The emperors don't like that.
	So that's the situation that's trying to explain the Jew hating Jew concept.
	I see.
	The other thing that's dealing with the ADL, as we talked about briefly here, was that they support gun control.
	And they lie.
	They lie about the benefits of gun control.
	The downside to gun control, as we talked about earlier, is genocide.
	It makes it possible for governments that have gone bad to murder people.
	The three parts of the formula for a genocide are a government that's gone bad, a group that's been targeted with hatred, and make sure that group is disarmed.
	Now you make a very good point in what you sent me here.
	This genocide never is committed by hate groups, but by governments.
	Absolutely.
	In fact, governments have murdered more people, not just Jews, but people, than any hate group around.
	I mean, the Ku Klux Klan has never murdered as many people as Nazi Germany.
	But that certainly does not excuse anything that they've done.
	Of course not.
	But I'm trying to get people to realize that the Ku Klux Klan, as much as I despise them, I think most decent Americans despise them, is not nearly as dangerous as a government gone bad.
	Because it's governments that murder people en masse.
	And it's governments that have the power to do it.
	Once they disarm people.
	That's correct.
	Once they disarm people.
	So again, the ADL supports policies that make it possible for governments gone bad to murder people.
	Not a very Jewish thing to do.
	You know, our forefathers, our founding fathers, talked about more than just three balances of power.
	In fact, they listed five.
	And if you read all their writings, you'll see that this is extremely clear.
	It wasn't just the balance of power between the executive, legislative, and the judicial branches of government, but there were two other balances that were placed in there to make sure that these three could not collude with each other.
	And that was the power of the jury and the power of the people in their right to keep and bear arms.
	So there are really five separations of the powers of the state and the balance of power between the state and the people.
	Most Americans don't understand that.
	Would you care to discuss that a little bit, Aaron?
	I'm not an expert on the five, as you pointed out, other than the keeping and bearing of arms.
	Once that goes, I guess we could use the term your five-legged stool.
	Once that goes, then you're on four legs.
	Well, once they've been able to take away the arms, they can forget about the jury.
	Yeah.
	Well, the arms were the last resort.
	And the jury was to make sure they couldn't take away the arms, because our forefathers gave the juries power to judge not just the facts of the case in question, but the law.
	And if the law was a bad law, the jury would rule in favor or against the law, no matter what the facts were.
	And so, if they passed gun laws, whenever it came to court, the jury would just rule in favor of the person who had the gun.
	And these things would be thrown out.
	But they perverted the law now, and judges tell the juries that they can only judge the facts of the case and not the law or anything else, and that they must rule either one way or another.
	And he tells them how they have to rule.
	And so that balance of power has been, we know, perverted.
	And there's another organization that we plan to talk to, which is the Fully Informed Jury Association.
	But let's go back here.
	You have listed a little table here and you've done quite a bit of research.
	You have outlined throughout history, at least since 1918, how governments have turned bad and what the dates were and how many people were murdered when that happened.
	By the way, the information you have, we give away free with those people who are buying the bumper stickers.
	That fact sheet comes with it.
	The JPFO facts versus the ADLY's.
	That fact sheet comes with the bumper sticker.
	The ADLY's bumper sticker.
	You've got to have this, folks.
	I mean, this is just incredible.
	Let me just tell you what we're trying to accomplish, Bill.
	I don't mean to interrupt you, but our goal is to try to get a million bumper stickers in circulation.
	I don't know if we'll ever reach that goal, but the point is, if we could do that, upwards of 15 million people a day would be reminded Every day of the week that the ADL lies.
	And if we're able to do this, we can silence the ADL.
	We can certainly get them out of the business of gun control and condemning militias.
	And that would go a long way in taking back our country and restoring freedom for all citizens.
	So the purpose of the bumper sticker is really a campaign to help get the ADL out of the business of maligning And defaming people.
	In fact, I have a member who refers to the ADL as the Anti-American Defamation League.
	I've heard Defamation League, but I have not heard Anti-American Defamation League.
	Well, considering some of their activities, I think that my member may be right on target.
	Well, I think you're right.
	So, later in the program, if we can tell people where to get the bumper sticker and also get all the information we're talking about free with it, I'd appreciate that.
	Okay.
	Do you want to give it to them, or do you want me to?
	I guess I can tell people where we are.
	Okay.
	This campaign is called the ADLYs.
	And we send out two huge vinyl bumper stickers.
	They're four and a half inches high, fourteen inches long.
	Multi-color, white background with red, blue, and black ink on them.
	And they're two for five dollars postage paid, first class mail.
	And it includes the information we've been talking about today about the Battle of Athens and about the genocide shark showing the different years that there have been genocides and the governments that have done it.
	Aaron, you're talking to the wrong audience for this two business.
	Give them the other higher numbers and prices because my audience will order these in bulk.
	Okay.
	The 25 bumper stickers is $30 postage paid, 50 bumper stickers are $50 postage paid, 100 bumper stickers are $75 postage paid.
	So they get real cheap real fast. - Thank you.
	And obviously people can take them to gun shows if they wish and resell them.
	Well, that's a good idea.
	It's a good way for you to make a little bit of money.
	I think anybody who wants to silence the ADL can see the value in doing this.
	And again, if we can get a million bumper stickers, even a quarter of a million bumper stickers out there, we can have a tremendous impact on the ADL and anybody who would be naive enough to use their bogus undocumented And I want to remind everybody out there, especially members of the ADL who may be listening, the ADL is an organization, not a race.
	Attacking an organization because it practices unethical and immoral behavior is not anti-Semitic, it is American.
	Okay, did you give the address where they can send us money?
	They can reach us at JPFO 2872 South Wentworth.
	W-E-N-T-W-O-R-T-H.
	Milwaukee, Wisconsin 53207.
	Our daytime phone number is 414-769-0760.
	Our daytime phone number is 414-769-0760.
	Our fax number is 414-483-8435.
	We do take MasterCard, VisaCard.
	Okay, why don't you repeat that address one more time and go through the number of bumper stickers and the prices, because you're going to get a lot of orders here.
	I hope so.
	It'll do a lot of good if we can get the ADL to go silent and get them out of the business of gun control and defaming decent, hardworking Americans.
	JPFO Incorporated, which is short for Jews for Preservation of Farms Ownership, but JPFO will do it.
	Wentworth, W-E-N-T-W-O-R-T-H Avenue.
	The city is Milwaukee, M-I-L-W-A-U-K-E-E, Wisconsin, W-I-5-3-2-0-7.
	Phone number is 414-769-0760.
	Our fax number is 414-483-8435.
	We do take MasterCard, Visa card.
	Our fax number is 414-483-8435.
	We do take MasterCard, VisaCard.
	And the price, again, the quantity discounts on the bumper stickers is $25.
	Now, could we impose upon you to tell our listening audience how they can become members of the Jews for the preservation of firearms ownership?
	are $75 postage paid.
	These are high quality vinyl bumper stickers I might add.
	Four and a quarter inches high, 14 inches long, multi-color.
	That's wonderful.
	Now, could we impose upon you to tell our listening audience how they can become members of the Jews for the Preservation and Firearms Ownership?
	Sure, thank you.
	Membership is $20 It's a tax deductible.
	And that includes... Are you still there?
	I'm here.
	Strange clicks going on here.
	Well, that happens here quite often.
	That includes a subscription to our quarterly newspaper called the Firearm Sentinel.
	Which, by the way, folks, has had some excellent, absolutely excellent eye-opening articles.
	Some of them I've read on the air.
	I think you did one with the, it had to do with the, was it the ADL again I think?
	Yes it was.
	True.
	And that was one that I read, I read others also.
	Yeah, but it's a very gutsy publication.
	I think people will enjoy reading it.
	And again, it's only $20 a year, it's tax deductible.
	And that's the same address?
	Yes it is, yeah.
	Wonderful.
	Now, Aaron, I know that you've probably had some hardships over this.
	Why don't you tell us some repercussions that you've had in your life because of the brave stance that you've taken.
	It's not a popular thing that you're doing.
	Well, it isn't.
	You know, you can probably guess by now the ADL constantly lies about us and attacks us.
	They have the ear of the New York Times, so they write letters about us, but the New York Times doesn't allow us to respond.
	The Jewish community nationally, since most Jews do support gun control, would look upon us as troublemakers.
	That's an interesting term because when the Nazis were going through the Eastern European ghettos rounding up Jews, Jews who wanted to fight were looked upon as troublemakers.
	As I said, you know, many of the Jews in America still have this ghetto mentality.
	I haven't learned to appreciate freedom.
	And because I say things like that, this gets a few people upset with me.
	But the truth is the truth, and I think that it's important that those folks in the Jewish community who are supporting this dangerous stupidity of gun control, they have to be singled out, the light of day has to shine on their activities, so they don't bring harm, not only to Jews, but to all Americans.
	The Jews in the ghettos in Europe during World War II... They're like that, Bill.
	There are people in the black community who are the same.
	Absolutely.
	Any community that separates itself, or is forcibly separated either way, gets certain mindsets.
	And that is certainly understandable.
	But there was a point in time, especially in the Warsaw Ghetto, when that mindset disappeared and they did rise up with guns.
	Yes, Mordecai Nelois was a very young man and he was able to muster some people who followed him.
	They started the Jewish Fighting Organization, the JFO.
	There were two organizations, but the JFO pretty much became the leading organization.
	They knew they weren't going to win.
	But they realized that the Nazis wanted something of value in that community.
	They wanted a property.
	They wanted belongings.
	And they said that the best way, even though they knew they would not live to see a real victory, let us destroy everything that the Nazis value.
	And that will be our victory.
	And it certainly was.
	What they did, to me, was a tremendous example for the rest of the world.
	But they showed how armed people can indeed take a stand against a government gone bad that has an army on its side.
	So the possibilities are there to stand up to tyranny and say no.
	Stand up to evil and say no, you will not prevail.
	There is always that possibility, and I consider it to be a duty.
	And it always brings to mind to me the truest hero that I have ever seen in my entire life, who knew when he did it that he was doomed.
	And I'm talking about that one and four.
	Folks, this also comes into my mind.
	Every time someone stands in front of me and says, Well, I can't do anything.
	I'm just one lonely person and I've got to go to work and do this and that and I can't get involved in all this kind of stuff.
	I want you to find the videotape and watch it or the film if you can get it.
	Because the film is much better.
	Of the one, lonely, single, scared to death Chinese student who stood and stopped 17 Communist Chinese tanks, one of the most ugliest, most terrible killing machines that's ever been invented on this earth, he stopped them right in their tracks.
	And because it was broadcast around the world, they didn't kill him.
	He's still in prison, but he's alive.
	He is my hero.
	Aaron, I want to thank you so much.
	It's been a pleasure.
	For being a guest.
	Well, it always flies when there's something important being discussed because you just want to talk so much more.
	But we'll do this again.
	I appreciate the opportunity.
	Thanks for inviting me on.
	And thank you for your brave stance and what you're doing for all the people in America who truly appreciate and love liberty.
	Thank you.
	Good night, folks.
	And God bless each and every single one of you.
	If tomorrow all the things were gone Worked for all my life And I had to start again Tomorrow all the things were gone, worked for all my life.
	And I had to start again, with just my children and my wife.
	I thank my lucky star to be living here today.
	But the flag still stands for freedom, and they can't take that away.
	And I'm proud to be an American, where we've been dying over our dreams.
	And I won't forget the men who died, who gave that fight to me.
	And I hardly stand up next to you, and I can't hurt you today.
	But there ain't no doubt I love this man.
	God bless the U.S.A.
	From the lakes of Minnesota, to the hills of Tennessee, across to the hills of Tennessee, across the plains of Tennessee, from Peter Shining State.
	From Detroit down to Houston and New York to L.A.
	With a pride in every American heart, anytime we stand the same.
	That's how to be an American, where it makes us a life free.
	And I won't forget the men who died, who gave that life to me.
	And I have to stand up next to you and defend her until today.
	But there ain't no doubt I love this man.
	God bless the U.S.A.
	And I promise to be an American, where it makes us a life free.
	And I And I won't forget the men who died who gave that right to me.
	And I plan to stand up next to you in December till today.
	But there ain't no doubt I love this land.

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