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May 15, 1995 - Bill Cooper
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Gwen Wycoff – Perceptions
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*Pewds* You don't know who I am, do you?
Don't tell me that you don't know me.
I'm going to go.
I'm William Cooper.
You're listening to the Hour of the Time.
I'm William Cooper.
Let's go straight to Phoenix, folks, with Gene Miller for the Metal Report.
Good evening, Gene.
Good evening, Gil.
How are you?
Pretty good.
How about yourself?
Fine, fine, fine.
What's going on down there?
Well, let's see here.
Today wasn't a whole lot of activity.
Gold had a high of $384.90, a low of $383.70 to close at $384.90, up $1.40.
$3.8490, a low of $3.8370 to close at $3.8490, up $1.40.
Silver had a high of $5.43, a low of $5.32 to close at $5.41, up $0.10.
Platinum had a high of $4.31.
$31.50, a low of $428.50, close at $429.80, up 80 cents.
And the Dow had a high of $44.46.10 and a low of $44.18.10 to close at $44.37.40, up $6.9. up $6.9.
And it just seems to be going off into the strategy there.
So I think it's just a bubble looking for a pin, or possibly even sitting on one.
Well, it's insanity.
It's past the point of even any understanding or any kind of intelligence to it.
I mean, these stocks are so way above the price of the worth of a stock, and the company should be.
Well, yeah, it's now pushed itself into A yield of 2.52%, which is the lowest dollar yield in stock market history.
Not only that, Gene, but have you noticed when the dollar drops precipitously, the stock goes up.
When the dollar comes up, the stock goes down.
That means that most of the stock that's being traded is being traded by foreign owners of stock on the American Stock Exchange and the New York Stock Exchange.
Oh, yeah.
are even in worse shape, so they perceive ours to be a little bit better, so they're pouring the money into there.
Well, not only that, as our dollar falls, the value of their currency goes up, and thus they can buy more stock.
In other words, what they're doing is getting discounted stock as our dollar devalues.
Exactly.
Which is, it's all phony anyway.
Oh, yeah.
Well, I'm going to LA.
this week.
We're going to run Steven Jacobson's tape again so people will have another opportunity to learn what it's all about.
What else is going on?
Well, I was going to read you a couple of little paragraphs from Dial Theory Letters.
It was really interesting.
I've got the latest one here.
It said, last week the M2 money supply shot up by $10.6 billion.
It says, hey, how can that be?
Where did the money come from?
Was it sweated for?
Who sweated for it?
Who made a profit to create it?
Who used ingenuity to earn it?
Who built something to a value in order to increase the U.S.
money supply by over $10 billion in a single week?
Answer.
Nobody.
The $10 billion was created out of thin air through a process controlled by the Federal Reserve System.
Consider this picture.
You've worked hard over the years and you've managed to save $200,000.
You've saved that money After paying your taxes, after years of hard work, after years of thrift, after years of thinking and sweating and planning, and yet, what is that $200,000?
In reality, it's paper money.
It's fantasy money.
It's money created by a system that never worked or sweated for it.
It's money that actually represents debt.
Your life savings simply represents debt creation, a package, a pack of liabilities of the U.S.
government.
What about gold?
Real money.
Gold is different.
Gold cannot be created by anyone.
The ancient alchemists spent decades, indeed their lives, trying to make gold from lead and other base metals.
And, of course, the poor devils never got anywhere.
There's no way to conjure up gold.
There's no way to turn lead or copper or zinc into gold.
Well, they all knew that.
That was a scam for the sheeple.
They were really engaged in the secret religion, which we've exposed on this broadcast, and that alchemy was was the way that they could talk about it in public and not get burned at the stake.
But anyhow, it's the money system.
And then we go on to say that every currency that has ever been created by a government that had no precious metal backing, it ultimately failed.
And basically he just says the writing's on the wall, it's not a question of if it's going to happen, it's a question of when it's going to happen.
And you know, you and I both realized that I think this is a purposeful thing that they're doing just to all of a sudden pull the plug on the American people and you wake up one day and you thought you had money, now you have nothing.
They can't have their socialist world government if there's a strong middle class in the United States that owns weapons.
And that's really what it's all about.
How do you control people?
Take away their weapons and take away their money?
Yep.
And how do you get them to take away their weapons?
You take away their money and their food and their roof over their head and they'll do anything to get security for their family.
Yep.
That's coming.
And probably sooner than we think, huh?
Well, just look around.
I mean, a few years ago I predicted all of this and everybody said I was crazy.
Now it's all happening and the ones that said I was crazy then that were listening to me then now are wanting to jump on the boat and help and the ones who have never heard it before are still saying we're crazy.
Well, there's always going to be a bunch of those, but you know, it's like that old Fram Oil commercial.
You can paint it now or you can paint it out later.
You know, but one way or another you're going to pay the fiddler.
Well, today it's more like what you started to say.
You can pay me now, or you can pay me now, or you can pay me now.
Yeah, exactly.
Well, folks, give us a call at Swiss America, 1-800-289-2646.
We've been giving away the Economic Solutions book last week and this week, and if you haven't gotten a copy, give us a holler.
We'll give you a free copy of that book.
It's a great old book.
All people are getting some and handing it out to others.
Thank you, Gene.
Thank you, Bill.
We'll see you next week.
Bye.
Okay, folks.
I'll be gone all the rest of this week.
You're going to hear reruns, the best of the last two weeks.
The reason we're going to do that is we're back on satellite.
1-800-BY-POINT.
Thank you, Gene.
Thank you, Bill.
We'll see you next week.
Bye.
Okay, folks, I'll be gone all the rest of this week, and you're going to hear reruns, the best of the last two weeks.
And the reason we're going to do that is we're back on satellite.
A lot of people haven't heard what we've been talking about, KDNO.
And by the way, if you live in the San Joaquin Valley or anywhere near San Bernardino, you can listen to us on KDNO, Brilliantly Clear FM Radio, 98.5 on your dial out of Delano, California, 98.5.
98.5 FM in the San Bernardino, Delano area and the San Joaquin Valley.
Okay, ladies and gentlemen, I will be in Los Angeles Wednesday, May 17th.
Leaving tomorrow.
I won't be back until the end of this week, because I'm going to give Annie a couple of days to go shopping.
Because, you know, this is not the big city.
We live in a rural area.
So, Wednesday, May 17th.
Doors open at 6pm.
Be a Constitution Party meeting.
In fact, it's the first Los Angeles Constitution Party meeting.
The Constitution Party folks advocates individual rights, state sovereignty, and return to the Constitution for the United States of America.
This will be Wednesday, May 17th.
Doors open at 6 p.m. at the Airport Marina Hotel, West Los Angeles, just north of the Los Angeles Airport.
That's the Airport Marina Hotel, West Los Angeles, just north of the Los Angeles Airport.
If you want directions, call PAP.
That's 310-670-8111.
Also, there are no copies left for issue number three of Veritas.
That's 310-670-8111.
Also, there are no copies left for issue number three of Veritas.
And unless we get some real big orders, like a thousand, we're not going to do a reprinting.
Also, for the Constitution Party meeting in LA, I forgot to tell you, it's free admission and parking.
Donations are welcome, and we hope that you'll be willing to make some kind of a donation for the party so that we can make our dream come true of putting a constitutionally committed team of President and Vice President of the White House to turn this government around.
From socialist Marxism, world globalist government-oriented puke-faced traitors to real Americans.
And remember, folks, it's important.
This is going to be the last free election we probably ever have in this country in 1996, if they let it be free.
And depending upon how that election goes, it's going to depend upon what happens from that point on.
And if you don't believe it, you better open your eyes and start looking around.
We're living in a police state right this very moment.
Well, tonight, folks, we have a guest.
Gwen, are you on the line?
Hello?
Hi.
Hang on one moment, Bill.
I'm going to transfer it over to Gwen, okay?
Okay.
Well, I don't know what's going on here.
I'm supposed to have a guest on the line, not an assistant waiting for me to come on.
Hello, Gwen.
How are you?
I'm fine.
How are you doing?
I'm good.
Hello, baby.
Yeah, this is the big Bubba Steven.
Oh, you sweet thing.
Oh, sweet man.
Do I want?
Will I want?
Oh, better you know what I like.
Chancellery, late, I'm a pretty face, I'm a pretty face.
Ah, yes, folks, our guest tonight is Gwen Wyckoff, the publisher of Perceptions Magazine, and she certainly does know what I like.
I knew we were going to have a good time tonight.
Well, with all this serious baloney going on, I thought we'd better break it up with a little bit of fun here.
Well, I have some fabulous news.
Well, what is it?
Well, Richard Hoagland had a leak to him from somebody inside the NSA, or one of the bigger agencies, and the Mars... the Clementine Project, which sent back a million photographs of the planet... of the Moon, Uh, a very, very high resolution.
Uh, the people were supposed to get it last year, and, of course, the secret government didn't allow that to happen.
So, anyhow, he got a lease, and, uh, he's put out a white paper to scientists throughout all of the world, and, uh, we are going to be the only magazine to be publishing his first release of the photographs of what's really on the moon and of course we're not surprised at what's really on the moon
it's of course structures that are identifiable as buildings and cities are we surprised well you know glenn that i was showing those pictures years ago in my lectures and i wrote about them in my book and we've done a lot of research on the on the first spacecraft that sent back these pictures that show structures on the moon and structures on mars and particularly the moon
for instance the first one that sent back photographs where you could clearly see structures on the moon which should not be there was lunar orbiter 4 which did not have cameras that could resolve anything smaller than one mile in size which means these supposed buildings buildings we're looking at if they're really there are over a mile inside It's hard to say.
The pictures are pretty interesting.
Oh, yes.
It's all very interesting.
but that's for everybody else to make up their own mind.
Well, I don't know.
It's hard to say.
Anyhow, the pictures are pretty interesting.
Oh yes, it's all very interesting.
And if we do have structures on the moon, then we wonder whose structures they are and all of that.
And then somebody's going to say, "We've got to dissolve our national sovereignty and come together in one world government because there's somebody out there, and who speaks for planet Earth?" Well, no, that isn't exactly how the scenario seems to be going.
Oh, yeah, that's exactly how it's going to go.
Stanton Friedman's been saying exactly that for 20 years.
Well, I wouldn't debate with you on that.
I'm just saying that that is not how the research is going on the Hoagland side.
It's going, actually, the reverse.
We now know who's on the moon, and we also know the relationship of that to the Earth, and now we know exactly what we need to do about it.
And that part, he's not willing to release any further than that, but it's not a One World Order thing at all.
Well, that's what it'll evolve into.
Are you going to publish this paper?
We're going to do a summary of it.
Okay.
He said we're the only magazine he's going to release it through.
For the first release and then the second and then so the next issue coming out which is issue number 10 we'll have three of those photographs with a looks like I'm looking at Judy's copy that she just put together it looks like three pages of text and then the following number 11 she said he's going to be writing an article about it so that's the that's kind of exciting
Well, I know there's a lot of people out there who are really, really interested in this stuff, and of course you know I have been for many years, and you have also.
Yes.
The thing with Richard, though, is he's been very, you might say, conservative and very scientific and not really willing to believe the bigger story behind the lunar stuff, and now he's actually
Well, again, I have to caution everybody who's listening, and you too, Glenn, if I may, is that this is all predicated on the belief that NASA is giving us real photographs
And I've got to tell you, until we can go up there and look for ourselves, it is absolutely foolhardy to believe that NASA is giving us real photographs that have these things on them, and that they don't know that they're there, because that's just absolute baloney.
So there's a good possibility that these photographs are faked, and we've done a lot of research, and the place that they could have been faked at points directly to Walt Disney Studios.
Well, I can't say about that.
I'm not the researcher or the scientist or whatever.
The only thing I can say is that Richard Hoagland is very blown away about all this and he's quite astonished.
He's going through the regular process that we all go through when we realize that things are not exactly as they were said to be.
He seems to be in a very big transition in reference to his own reality base as we relate to him personally.
So, you know, that's kind of interesting because we all know how that happened to us.
Yeah.
But whether they're real or not, he is quite convinced in his own mind that they're real.
And he doesn't, I mean, the people who've been close to him have said that he's very conservative and very concerned about his scientific reputation and all of this and has been very, very unwilling to go over the line and such and such.
But now he seems to be quite willing to do that, so who knows?
Who knows what it all means?
Well, we'll all find out eventually, I guarantee you.
You have beautiful pictures, that's all I'm saying.
I know.
I've been showing them lectures for years.
In fact, I was the first one who showed them lectures previous to that.
I forget the name of the man who was an airline pilot, had published a book which showed the pictures from NASA, which the name of it was, We Discovered Alien Bases on the Moon.
I forget what his name is, and I apologize for that, because he should get credit for what he did.
And all he did was show in his book what the pictures showed.
He didn't make any assumptions, except that if you believed that the pictures were real and that they really came from NASA and NASA would not lie to us, then they'd have to be extraterrestrial, because according to our governments, we weren't up there when those pictures were taken.
So, anyway, tell us about Perceptions, Gwen.
Oh, Perceptions magazine is a very exciting magazine, and we Like to be on the cutting edge.
And the current issue has the astonishing revelation that Washington, he became a state in 1989 or something like that.
May have their own constitution and a flag.
And the implications of that are astonishing since the federal government was hired by the states in an administrative capacity.
And now it's the old story of the servant who has become the master.
And how come they didn't tell us that they become a state and they have their own little flag and all of that?
Well, they can't.
I mean, if they really told the truth to the American people, there would be, instantly, a terrible reaction.
We hope there would be.
Pardon?
We hope there would be.
Well, we know that there would be, and that's the reason why they rule with lies and deception and manipulation rather than truth.
and commonality and participation in debates and things like that.
And Congress knows about this.
There's nobody in Congress who is uneducated, shall we say.
It's just the people out here in the hinterlands and in the cities and the, you know, the people who have been taught that America is one way so they don't ever question it.
They just get up in the morning, go to work and come home and read the paper and have a Budweiser and watch Roseanne and go to sleep.
They don't know what's going on in their city.
That's less their county, state, or the federal government.
Speaking of what's going on around here, let's talk about something much more interesting and fun.
One of our, not that I don't want to talk about perceptions, I love to talk about perceptions, but one of Richard McDonald's service centers down in Orange County, the 20 people involved in the state citizenship group en masse went to an IRS office.
Did the sheriff do that?
No he didn't.
Of course not.
So now they have sued him and everything else but they have it all on video tape.
I had the sheriff come over to arrest them and put them in the jail for the IRS people.
I don't have all the details.
Did the sheriff do that?
No, he didn't.
Well, of course not.
So now they have sued him and everything else, but they have it all on videotapes.
Wonderful.
Huh?
Yeah.
They are having actually quite a good time with this.
So that's exciting.
I don't know if we're going to get that in a paper in our magazine or not, but that's up to Richard Hubbard, our political editor.
But that's a fun thing.
And then back to the magazine, we're having an awful lot of fun with the which flag is which.
Have you been hornswoggled with the... You're talking about the civil flag versus the...
The military flag.
Right.
Having quite a lot of jaws a-dropping with that one.
And you of course knew about that before.
Your first Veritas has you in front of the flag.
The real flag, the civil flag.
Right, the civil flag.
How did you find out about it?
Well, Gwen, as you probably know as well or better than others, I've been studying this stuff for so many years I can't even remember when I started, except that it was around the early 70s somewhere.
And once your eyes begin to awaken and see the truth through the delusions and the illusions and the fantasies, you can't stop looking for more.
And the more you look, the more you find that people are living... It's as if they went to Disneyland and got locked in the Fantasy Castle when the park closed and they've never come out.
They're still in there.
It's so amazing.
I mean, when it all dawned on me was... Who was that?
Phillip Marsh.
He did a video on the IRS and everything.
made me sit down and listen to it.
He, like, forced it on me.
And I reluctantly sat there, and after about ten minutes, I was on the edge of my seat.
I couldn't believe what I was doing.
And when was that?
That was, I don't know, 1990 or something like that.
And I have never been the same since.
And it's just been one shock after another, one revelation after another.
And so publishing perceptions is such a joy because we just sort of swim in all this stuff.
Well, you amazed me when you did this.
I mean, I was really amazed, because I've known you for quite a few years now, and I really didn't see you doing this.
But you certainly did it, and you surprised me, and it's just magnificent the way you have Without even realizing it, you have propounded in your magazine the philosophy of the Constitution Party and those of us who understand that liberty is really our uniting common bond.
And while you and I and many other people may disagree on a lot of things, we can discuss it intelligently with each other without becoming angry and emotional about it.
We do discuss it intelligently, and we realize that it's not what we individually believe that sets us apart.
It's the manipulations and the lies that people use to pit us against each other when we shouldn't be.
And that, really, liberty unites us all.
And you've done that in your magazine.
You've united in your magazine Disparate groups of Americans that ordinarily would never read the same publication, much less talk to each other.
And I think that is just absolutely magnificent.
Well, thank you very much.
It reminds me of the day I answered the phone and it was a lady by the name of Krishna.
And she was a member of the Krishna community, the Hare Krishna community.
And she said, she said, we just love your magazine.
We use it to train our devotees on liberty and how the American government should work.
And I was so astounded, you know.
And so she had ordered something or something.
I took the note.
And then the next phone call I got was a person from the John Bush Society.
And they were saying the same thing.
And it was like, it was really amazing because that's the purpose of the magazine.
It's to bridge the differences between all these groups so that we can come together under, just like you say, liberty.
Because that's the most important thing, that we understand each other and we understand the importance of freedom.
And I just get such a charge out of doing that.
You should, because it's a magnificent accomplishment.
And while we're on the subject of liberty, you know, I meet people all the time who claim that they're patriots.
But they claim that the government has to be this way or that way, and that these people who don't fit into that don't belong.
And they're wrong.
In a country where liberty is the underlying philosophy, you can't help but have a whole bunch of different people who believe different things, because that's what liberty is all about.
And if everybody in this country believed exactly the same thing, it would tell me that liberty does not exist in this country.
Right, I think if we go back just to the basic common law, we'll discover that under common law, if you do not hurt another person, you have not committed a crime.
Or their property.
Right, another person or their property.
If you haven't done any damage, there's no crime.
That's correct.
And that is so simple, and it's so basic, and what they've done with the statutory laws has made everything so complicated that we're all lost in a maze, and as I'm a great I'm always fascinated with William the Conqueror because it seems like so many things have gone right back to him.
Well, he established the feudal system.
Well, it was kind of feudal before that, but he really ground the English into the ground.
I mean, he was really a leader.
And one of the things I read, I don't know, I'm sure as a researcher you realize that You'll be reading along, and it'll be so-and-so married such-and-such, and they had this child, and blah-blah-blah, and then right in the middle, when you're not expecting it, there's this one sentence that just blows your mind, and as I was reading about William the Conqueror, there was one sentence, and it said, and he changed the laws in England so the common man could not understand
The law, and he made all the laws in French so that the common man could not even read or write the law.
And I went, oh, does that sound familiar with how things have gone today, right?
Yep.
The same game!
Yep.
And this is why he's so fascinating to me, because he was so diabolical.
And yet, you know, just for the complexity of a man, he was happily married and faithful to his wife.
And it was just such a contradiction because he was so contradictory because he was so cruel to the English people.
Well, it's not really contradictory when you understand that nobody ever sets out to do evil.
Whatever someone does, whether it's a king or an elevator operator or a lawyer or somebody that works on Wall Street or a tractor driver or whatever, whatever they set out to do, they set out to do because they believe that what they're doing is right for them and they rationalize it, that somebody owes they set out to do because they believe that what they're doing is right for them and they rationalize it, that somebody owes them something or their mom and dad weren't good to them so they have a But everybody always rationalizes it so that they're in their own mind.
They're not doing anything wrong.
And that's why they can do these things.
And that's why the people that are doing these things today can do them is they have fooled themselves in that they're going to create a world utopian socialist government and there will be no more wars and no more muggings and no more crime and all that kind of stuff.
But what they have to do to get this government and maintain it is the biggest crime in the history of the world.
Yeah, they don't realize they're going to inherit exactly what they do too.
Oh yes.
Never see the future and how it's going to come back on them.
And this idea of utopia has been something that has really plagued me in my life because the big story about Columbus when he comes to America, well he gets to the Bahama Islands really, and then he turns those innocent natives into slaves.
Because they are not smart enough to know or they don't have enough experience to understand evil.
Yeah, but don't blame it on Columbus because those innocent natives were enslaving the tribes that lived on the other side of the island.
Probably.
And in Africa it was black tribes who captured other black men from other black tribes and took them down to the beach and sold them to slave traders who then put them on the ships and brought them over here.
And a lot of the people who call other people racist were involved in the slave trade.
And so, you can't judge modern-day people, no matter who they are, by what was accepted hundreds of years ago.
We've got to take a short break.
Don't go away, folks.
We'll be right back.
Okay.
We'll be right back.
Oh, God, no.
Well, folks, it's getting close to that time.
And if you haven't got your conference fees in, you need to do it now.
If you are or ever have been a CADG member, the fee is $100 more.
It's going to be the five of the most informally packed days of your entire life, and there will be a camp out on the last night.
Folks, if you haven't experienced Arizona and Arizona skies, I've got to tell you, you really, really, really need to do this.
In fact, just to come and visit Arizona, you have to understand that Arizona is not 120 Phoenix with cactus and dust.
That's Phoenix in Tucson.
That's not where we're at.
Just within a twenty minute, actually less than that, probably about a ten minute drive from my home I can be at a lake in any direction I drive fishing.
A ten minute drive from my home is one of the last virgin forests left in the United States.
About twenty minutes from my home is one of the most beautiful And one of the best ski areas of the entire United States.
We keep that kind of secret here in Arizona so that the rest of the world doesn't come and take over.
Herds, huge herds.
You can take a short drive in just about any direction and see herds of wild antelope, elk, deer, almost every kind of wild animal that you can think of.
We are right next to one of only two rivers in the entire United States that flows north instead of south, east, or west.
There's only two in the country, and we're right next to one.
Also, there are only sixteen scenic drives recognized in the government as being the most scenic in the nation, and one of them goes right by my house.
The sky is the most beautiful blue you've ever seen in your life.
The sunsets are spectacular.
Clouds in the Arizona sky are white cotton ball puffs, and there is no, and I mean no, pollution here at all.
At night, the sky is like a magnificent, huge magnifying glass, and you can see millions of stars that you can't see anywhere else.
You can only see them right here.
The temperature in the daytime is absolutely perfect.
It never gets too hot.
It never gets too cold.
Now, because of the elevation here, at night it can get a little chilly, even in the summertime, but it doesn't get cold.
You've got to come, folks, and be a part of this.
Those of you who heard the broadcast and the people who were here for our last conference and those who were here for the last conference will tell you that it's five days of the greatest education and the most fun and the most fellowship The best fellowship, in fact, with people of like mind and decent, good, honest folks will be here.
You'll be safer here than you are in your own home, I guarantee it.
Everyone here looks out for everybody else, including law enforcement, including the sheriff's department, including the highway patrol, including all the citizens who live here.
And there's very little crime.
Most of it that there is is committed by mischievous teenagers who haven't figured out what's what yet.
So if you're a CADGE or intelligence service member and you have a single membership, it's $100.
If you have a family membership in the intelligence service and two members of your family are coming, it's $150.
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And if you're not a member of either CAGI or the intelligence service, it's $350.
We're going to keep you busy from 9 o'clock in the morning until midnight every single night.
And, of course, you'll be here as a live audience for the hour of the time all five nights of that week.
So, folks, better not miss it.
I'm telling you right now, last year when we had our conference, there were so many people who wrote letters.
After they heard the people who were attending describe what was happening on the air during our live broadcast right here from the Research Center, that regretted that they had not come.
I can guarantee you, you don't want to have that kind of regret.
We're going to have the station chief from Oklahoma City is going to be here and you're going to go through step by step with her how to conduct an investigation and what we came up with and how we came up with it.
You'll be able to read the dispatches that came in to the research center.
You'll see a presentation on how the media turned the wrath of the nation against patriots, Christians, and militia members when there was absolutely no connection whatsoever At all.
You'll see how a socialist propaganda machine works.
You're going to see the actual pictures that NASA has given out of everything that's up there on the moon and much, much more.
You're going to have a presentation on cryptology and how to maintain safe and secure communications and on and on and on and on and on.
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All members of the press must reveal that they are members of the press when they check in also.
All lectures, everything that happens here will be recorded, so if you come and you sit through this and you go away and tell lies about us, we have the truth on tape.
We don't do anything illegal or unlawful here.
We are concerned American patriots.
Patriotism is not a movement, you stupid scumbag commie news propaganda artist.
Americans are expected to be patriots.
And if you're not, you're not an American.
Well, do you want to dance and dance on my head?
Well, behind you, something in a place where you want to dance.
Well, do you want to dance and dance on my head?
We'll be on tonight, oh baby, we'll be on holiday.
Well, do you want to dance and dance on my head?
We'll be on tonight, oh baby, we'll be on holiday.
Ah, folks, Annie and I did that, and now we've got another baby on the way.
I'm just so proud.
I can't stand it.
I love children.
I can't wait.
I really didn't want Pooh to be an only child, and so we're going to have another little baby.
Are you back, Gwen?
I'm back.
I'm here.
Hi.
My people told me I'm supposed to give out my telephone number.
Yes.
How'd you do that?
If you want anybody to subscribe to this magazine, which I hardly, hardly, hardly, Let me get my tongue off of my wisdom tooth back here.
Heartily recommend that they do.
This is my favorite magazine, folks, bar none.
It fulfills the goals and everything that I've ever tried to do.
It's a compliment to Veritas and The Hour of the Time.
Gwen is an old friend of mine and she's certainly done a wonderful job here of trying to unite all the different disparate groups that exist in this country under the common bond of liberty.
So many people are at each other's throats because they bought the scam.
We're not enemies at all.
We all are Americans.
We believe in liberty.
We want to do our own thing.
And as long as you don't hurt anybody else or their property, you know, we want you to do that.
It doesn't bother me.
It bothers me if you come and hurt me or my family or my property.
That's what bothers me.
That's why the government is bothering so many people.
They're destroying lives.
They're stealing people's lives and their property.
And killing people.
It's unbelievable.
I never thought these things could happen in the United States of America.
Tell us how and at what price and how often this magazine comes out and how people can get it.
This magazine is bi-monthly?
No, no, no.
It's every two months.
Right, that's what it's called, bi-monthly.
No, bi-monthly is twice a month, my dear.
I know, but in the magazine world you call yourself bi-monthly if it's every other month.
Well, you've got to be careful because if people out there think that they're going to get it twice a month and they don't, then you've got big problems.
Okay, it's not a month, it's six times a year.
There we go.
And you can call Area Code 310-313-5185 if you're in Canada or in a vicinity near us.
313-5185 if you're in Canada or in a vicinity near us.
Or you can call our 800 number, which is 800-276-4448.
So let me give those two numbers again.
Now say them real slow twice, Glenn.
Okay.
310-313-5185 or 800-276-4448.
One more time.
310-313-5185 or 800-276-4448.
One more time.
310-313-5185 and 800-276-4448.
And how much is the perceptions?
It's $25 for 6 issues and our big deal is 12 issues for $44.
That's where you get a big savings.
And tonight we have a special if you have friends that you also want to get a subscription for.
When you call you just say I have some friends and the people who answer the phone will tell you what our special is.
And we also have 18 issues for those people who really, really love the magazine, and we can take credit cards these days.
That's a big improvement that's happened to us in the last couple weeks.
Shame on you.
Well, actually, not really.
No, I can't say it on the air.
Anyhow, there's an article in this particular issue called The Subtle Dance of Darkness, where Richard Boylan has gone into the shadow government, and he gives us some of what they are doing.
And one of the most interesting things I find is they're developing particle beam and plasmoid applied weapons research and high-energy invisibility cloaking technology.
No one should ever think that Earth is behind the times.
No?
Latest technology.
Mm-hmm.
And we talk about Social Security and how, no matter how many times it's published, people still buy it.
In other words, the government has given us something to make us helpless, and even when people are told what it does, they still look forward to their Social Security.
Yeah, and they still think there's a Social Security Trust Fund.
It's in the General Fund and they can do anything they want with it and have been for years.
Absolutely!
It's incredible and it's not an insurance policy.
It's not something that you do.
It's a tax and it's set so clearly in the law.
Right, and it's a diminishing return.
That's right.
Boy, a real diminishing return, I'll tell you.
Because the workforce...oh, I can't remember.
When I get into too technical things, I get all mixed up.
They even scam people by saying that if they retire early and start collecting their Social Security that they don't get as much money.
The truth is they get more money if they retire early.
They lie about everything, don't they?
They certainly do.
Well, they are the biggest liars in the world.
Socialists are the biggest liars upon the face of this earth.
Always have been.
Always will be.
Socialism sucks and so do socialists.
But the real marvel is that people keep buying it.
Well, they keep buying it because people basically are selfish.
They're always trying to get something for nothing.
And if you can make them believe that they're getting something for nothing, they'll do whatever you want them to do.
We also have this wonderful little conversation in Afterlife between David Koresh and Janet Reno.
Did you read that?
Yes, I did.
Basically, the bottom line is you need to know your laws.
When they come to your door and they have a search warrant and you're in your home and if it says on the search warrant that they have a search warrant to search premises, that search warrant is defective on its face.
And you can sue the judge.
And that's a pretty interesting piece of information for the common person.
Yeah, well, everything that's true is a good piece of information for the common person because they're not dealing in reality.
But that's correct.
And then, of course, we have one on distilled water and all kinds of things.
Did you have a particular article you liked this time?
I like them all.
I read them all.
Even if I don't agree with what is written there, you know me.
I'm an information nut.
I like everything that's in your magazine.
I specifically like the news clips and more awesome news in the back.
That's one of my favorite areas.
In fact, the bits and pieces in Veritas is a result.
of how well we like the awesome news in perceptions.
Oh, thank you.
Ian Poole does that and he's, like you say, he's a Republican spy.
I told him that you said that about him and he said, now, what does he really mean?
Because Ian is quite English, you know.
And I said, well, I think it means that you have a way of getting information for freedom.
And he says, well, I do.
Well, that's exactly what I meant.
I know how difficult that is.
That's been my focus and my self-appointed job for many years and I respect and admire people who have learned to do it and do it well and he certainly does.
Oh, he's a marvel.
It's difficult to cut through the crap and the lies and the deception and the sheer bullshit and get down to what really pertains and what people should be reading.
And that's what he does very well.
Yeah, he really does.
And that's what we do very well.
You do, absolutely.
In fact, this next issue I've extracted your personal experience of the news coming in on the Oklahoma bombing.
We very rarely ever do reprints, but we're definitely going to.
We'll be doing that in the next one.
We're going to put you in Awesome News.
Right out of the press.
Because we've been looking at all the stuff that comes in.
All of us who are connected to the Patriot Hotlines and on and on.
Tons of data is coming through and we're always trying to decide at the very last minute what we're going to put in because we're every other month and so our news might be old by the time it gets out.
But your write-up on that was just superb.
Well, thank you.
We love your Veritas.
It's great, our newspaper.
Then we have an article this time in How Strong is Your Will?
and I was starting to talk about that issue with Columbus with you and the whole point that I was trying to make in this particular article that I wrote is that when somebody comes to give you a hard time, Your lesson is to not let them give you a hard time and that's how you develop your will and the development of will is also the development of creativity.
That's right.
It's the challenges that make us stand up and become who we are and so there's an article in there in this particular issue about that.
Oh, let me ask you something, Gwen.
Columbus was representing the Queen of Spain and was financed by the Spanish Crown and he was supposed to claim all lands in the name of the Crown of Spain.
What was the first flag that he planted in the New World?
Oh, you're testing me.
I don't know.
Well, I wasn't testing you.
I really thought you would know.
Oh, was it a Templar flag?
Well it is a Templar flag and it was the green cross and the white field.
I was right!
I know that because I read Tandor at Fox.
Have you ever read Tandor at Fox?
Oh yes.
Well that's a very good book and it's got all this stuff about Columbus being a nice Templar.
Yeah, he was, and you can see what's happening in the world.
You can see the progression of this secret religion all the way through history right up to the Presidio in San Francisco and Gorbachev's green cross flag that he flies.
You think that the Templars are connected to Gorbachev?
Absolutely.
Really?
Oh yes.
Huh, because I always thought the Templars and the Vatican were We're always fighting each other.
Is that how you read it?
Well, you have to understand that the Vatican is never what anybody ever thought it was to begin with.
The Vatican is the same religion practiced by the Templars.
The Pope did not want to go against the Templars.
He was forced by the King of France.
Oh, it doesn't happen.
That's correct.
I didn't have that piece.
Well, if you read the real history, you'll find that the Pope did not want to go against the Templars.
He was forced to do that by the King of France.
Who really at that time was more powerful than the Vatican, than the Pope.
Because the Templars had all the money.
That's correct.
They not only had all the money, but they were the military arm of the Vatican.
Right, and they had all the shipping routes, so they were the merchants.
Yeah.
They had their power.
One of the things, one other real interesting thing is when the Templars were rounded up and their organization was destroyed, it really wasn't destroyed, it went in the ground.
Their fleet disappeared.
They had one of the largest military fleets in the world.
It disappeared.
Guess where it went?
Well, in what I read, they became the pirates.
That's exactly right.
And that's where the flag, the skull and crossbones came from.
And you'll find the skull and crossbones on the graves of the Templars in Europe.
There's two symbols that you'll find on the graves.
One is the skull and crossbones.
The other is a man seated with his foot upon a dog, indicating that he is the master.
That's where the Templar fleet went, and that's why they had the Brotherhood of Pirates, and that's why all these pirates could go into one port and never fight with each other.
They were all members of the Brotherhood.
Well, that's interesting.
We trace them back to our banking system, don't we?
They were the first international bankers, and when they went underground, they still were the first international bankers.
They were the first ones who loaned money to kings and queens, and they're still loaning money to kings and queens.
Well, they have their act together, you might say.
Oh, yes.
If we could just get our act together as we the people, we'd be far more powerful than all of them, wouldn't we?
Yes.
Also, the Templars were the first modern form of communism.
Really?
Absolutely.
Study how they lived.
I didn't get that far into them.
The part I got connected to was the lineage they claim back to Jesus.
Did you read that part?
Oh, yes.
But I didn't know that they were into this.
No, they were the first communists.
Everything had to be turned over to the Order.
The Order dictated everything, what everybody did, what they had, what they didn't have, where they worked, where they didn't work, and all the wealth was shared, and the symbol of the Knights Templars was two knights on one horse.
Wow, that's interesting.
Very interesting.
Maybe one of your listeners who's up on Columbus could write an article for us, because I've always found him pretty fascinating.
Well, it's all fascinating.
All of these people are fascinating.
When you find out that they had maps of the New World long before it was discovered, they knew what was over here.
Oh, absolutely.
Columbus knew exactly what he was doing.
It's such a lie they have told us about Jesus.
Are you familiar with the story of Matilda of Flanders, the wife of William the Conqueror, and how they got together, the two of them?
No, I don't think so.
Well, we have a few minutes left, so I'll entertain your listeners with Matilda of Flanders, who rejected William the Conqueror's overture.
This was before he was the king.
And they were both teenagers.
And she rejected him in marriage because he was a bastard.
And so he was insulted.
Let me explain for our listening audience that bastard is not a bad word and it's not a cuss word.
It is a word that up until recently was used to denote a child that was born out of wedlock.
Right.
And so he went over to her house.
He broke into the castle.
He went into her chambers.
He pulled her hair, dragged her around, and beat her very, very severely.
I mean, we're talking major kind of mishandling of a woman.
Well, her father didn't like that, so they had a war for four years over that.
And then the father and William decided that this was too hard.
They didn't want to do this anymore, so they had a truce.
So William decided to court her again.
And she, um, she decided that that would be okay.
And then of course they decided to get married.
And at the wedding, Matilda's father said, well, you know, after he beat you up, why did you decide to marry him?
And she said, because any man who had the courage to come into my father's house and do that to me was a very brave man.
And besides that, When he first asked me to marry him, I didn't know him that well.
And that's how it all happened.
And women are still doing the same thing today.
I got that story out of, there's 16 volumes of the Queens of England and they were published 100 years ago and my staff gave me a copy for my birthday.
I'm a whole 50 years old.
And so I've been reading about the Queens of England, and it's quite an interesting piece of history.
Wow.
Well, you want to give those numbers one more time, and then we've got to go.
All right.
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And it's been a real, really fun talking to you on the phone, on the air.
Thanks a lot, Gwen.
I really appreciate your being our guest tonight and I really appreciate your magazine.
I hope everybody out there subscribes to it.
Please do.
Good night.
You too.
Bye-bye.
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Annie Deer, this is for you.
God bless everybody out there listening.
I love you, baby.
Then, ask me how I knew my true love was you.
I don't know what it's like Something here inside Cannot be denied I don't know what it's like
One day, someday you'll find me All who love are blind.
Oh, when I'm on fire, you must be alive.
Most yet, in your eyes.
So I said, then I gave you back to make a good job.
Yet today, my love has been.
I am without my love.
Without my love.
Nothing will be right.
Amen. Amen.
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