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Jan. 18, 1994 - Bill Cooper
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Expect everyone to call in from different areas around the nation and give us a report
of two minutes telling us what is going on in your area.
Are you doing something that's particularly interesting or have you seen something spectacular that you need to share with everyone around the world?
First of all, I'm going to read you a letter That we received from Jim Fidler in Newfoundland.
There's some exciting things going on up there.
And Jim, I certainly congratulate you for getting this all together.
Jim writes, Dear Bill and Carolyn, I'm writing you this letter to tell you some very good news.
At 11 a.m.
On Friday, January 14, 1994, the Hour of the Time will debut on CHMR-FM in St. John's,
Newfoundland, Canada, the oldest city in North America where my pony received the first wireless
radio signal just after the turn of the century.
Not only does this mean that people can receive these broadcasts clearly on FM, but as well
the station is fed into the homes directly via cable.
We are Americans here, North Americans, and have as much need for the truth as anybody
else.
At this time, through the closure of the Atlantic fisheries, the commencement of a large-scale
project to extract oil from the seabed offshore, the proposal of a huge incinerator to burn
garbage shipped here from the United States, and I believe from elsewhere eventually, and
many other disturbing things, we are in a state of socioeconomic turmoil.
We stand to lose what little we have, not only already lost through politics and manipulation of the people, In 1949, an economically struggling Newfoundland was led into a confederation with Canada through the promise of old age pensions, baby bonuses, welfare, and so forth.
Less than 51% of the people voted in favor of this confederation, and it is believed that a significant number of these votes were tampered with.
So you see, we have the problems right from the start.
I hope this program can help open a few eyes in the years around here.
I feel the sheeple factor on the island is extreme.
There are two basic groups of people.
One, the people that believe everything they see on the news, the plugged-in apathetic.
And the people who smelled the sour milk a long, long time ago and don't even bother anymore, the unplugged apathetic.
In the meantime, I wish you, Carolyn and Bill, and all your listeners, all the best.
Jim Fidler.
Now this broadcast is going to be on CHMR FM 93.5, table 103.7, and it may be live in the future.
He's working on a fundraising for getting in more equipment so that the reception would be good enough to broadcast live to his area.
Jim, I wish you lots and lots of luck and remember everyone out there this started last Friday on January 14th at 11 a.m.
in the morning.
He started with the first debut tape that Bill Cooper made.
Now, while all of you are out there thinking of the two-minute report that you're going to be giving, I'm just going to read something from Strategic Investment of January 19, 1994.
Something about concealed weapons.
This is from Behind the Lines by Jack Wheeler.
Congressman Dana Rohrabacher, Republican of California, will soon offer legislation giving law-abiding citizens the right to carry concealed weapons.
Florida citizens now have this right.
Any resident not convicted of a felony may receive a concealed weapon permit, and crime against them is down 30%, and thus up against tourists whom the criminal knows aren't armed.
The criminal won't assault someone who might put a 38 in his face and blow him away We're going to open the lines in just a moment and and meantime we'll hear just a piece of music That will help to share The idea of your calling in and reporting in your area, how you're doing it your way.
way.
And now the end is near, so I take the final curtain, my friend.
I'll say it clear, I'll state my case.
It's uncertain.
I live a life that's bold.
I've traveled every highway and more.
More than that, I did it my way.
You're on the air.
Hello.
Hello.
Hi, this is Pat.
I'm in Connecticut.
Hi, Pat.
Hi, and as far as what's going on here, we're trying to do as much as we can, being in contact with other people.
There's a group in Massachusetts that I'm in contact with, and they in turn are in contact with people in New Hampshire, so it makes for a lot of people.
That's great.
We're going to try to have Bill come up here.
Oh.
When the weather clears.
Right.
That's what you're all thinking about right now.
We're going to try to work on that.
Of course, we'll be in contact with you pertaining to that.
Well, Bill is at home right now listening, and I'm sure he's kind of surprised.
He, as you know, can't be with us, but that's a really nice first call to hear that at home.
Yeah, well, you know, at one point there you had said that you didn't hear much from this part of the country, but now that we get you at 8 o'clock, you know, the program here at 8, midnight is kind of hard.
Right.
I hope Swift America Trading staff are hearing that and realizing how appreciative you all are out there.
That's really great.
How did you all meet?
Well, we met when we went to Washington for the Project 93.
I see.
We met on the bus going down there.
We've been in contact since.
They're all just really great people, great patriots, and all working for the same reason.
Also, the Gannett stock, we're trying to advertise that a bit, too.
Get that news out.
Well, that's good.
Thanks for calling in, Taff.
Okay, well, I'm sorry about Bill being sick.
I hope he feels better.
Okay.
That's good to start off with somebody from New England.
Here we go.
Hello.
You're on the air.
I'm on the air.
Great.
Excellent.
Where are you calling from?
I'm calling from Los Angeles.
Heartland Earthquake City.
Oh good.
We hope to hear from you.
This is White Rook.
I'm not going to give my real name.
I'm a patriot.
I'm a commander of a small militia force out here that we're putting together, a group of patriots.
Is that the unorganized militia?
This is our constitutional militia.
Right.
Which we have the right to organize.
Great.
There are several hundred of us out here just in Los Angeles, San Fernando Valley, and I'd like to let all of the patriots out there know that there are people organizing and getting ready for the rainy day.
That's really good to hear.
We are standardizing on weapons calibers and equipment and communications gear.
We are getting ready with transportation and money and to support each other.
And we just had the earthquake and our group is supporting each other at this very moment.
Some of us don't have water running.
We're sharing what we have.
This is turning out to be a small exercise in what is to come.
I'm really surprised I got on the air.
Right, well this is a surprise for us too because you brought up the question of food and water and I wonder if people... Let me tell you, let me tell everybody out there, this earthquake was a big earthquake, big earthquake, a lot of devastation out here.
Last night, at the markets, they were lying.
Most of the stores weren't open.
The damage was centralized into a small area.
It's disrupting all of L.A.
Imagine if there was a large financial crisis.
Who knows?
Any kind of crisis will disrupt your community totally.
You must prepare.
Absolutely, and I wonder if Bill is listening and smiling and thinking if only everyone had listened to him and prepared with purchasing food that he offered for up to two years for your family.
Look how valuable it could have been.
What we're suggesting, what I'm suggesting to members of the militia who are coming in and joining this finding out about the New World Order and And all the stuff that's going to come down the road, I'm suggesting to these people, the first thing they must do is get weapons and ammunition.
We are standardizing on certain military caliber weapons out here, because in a rainy day, you'd be able to pick this up off the street.
Your priority, number one, is weapons and ammunition.
Your second priority is reloading equipment.
Your third priority is food, clothing.
And I'm down the line if you can afford it.
Communications gear, body armor, extra vehicles.
We even have a lot of us with non-registered vehicles we can use on a rainy day.
We are preparing.
Los Angeles is preparing.
There are lots and lots, thousands of patriots out here, flocking to this cause.
I hate to cut you off and all.
I'm going to let you talk another half a minute or so.
Can you tell me how long ago did you all start getting together and preparing?
Like yesterday or last month?
Actually, I'm new to this.
I'm only six months into this.
I went to a rally with Linda Thompson showing the Linda Thompson video.
Where?
In Los Angeles and I woke up.
And I found other patriots and I started a group and our group has grown from 15 to 50.
Great.
When was the rally?
Our personal group and there are dozens of other groups.
Great.
When was the rally?
About six months ago.
Six months ago.
Right on.
Get ready.
I just started hearing about this last February.
There are a lot of us new to this and we must point home the fact that it's real.
And I do thank you for your call.
And we call ourselves the C.M.F.
The Constitutional Militia Force.
The C.M.F.
And if anybody wants to rally under that banner, we welcome them.
Great.
Thanks for your call.
Bye-bye.
Bye.
Well, we didn't hear about the earthquake too much out there, but we heard about how people are reacting to it and using their preparedness Maybe people should call in and ask Bill if he would reopen the food program for members.
Alright, next caller.
You're on the air.
Hello Karen.
Hello.
This is Joe and I live in West Virginia in the hills.
Hi Joe.
Lucky you.
I've got to ask you, maybe someone around the country knows something about this.
I live in a town, well I don't live in a town, I live out in the hills.
But we have a town of about 8,000 people.
And there's an old coal mining track according to one town to another, which is about 50 miles away.
Right.
And the other town, we've got 8 or 10 thousand people.
They're redoing this old track for commuters.
And we have 25% unemployment.
No one travels there back and forth to these new towns.
There's no shopping centers, there's no inns, there's no malls, there's nothing.
Why would they be doing this?
Does anyone have any idea?
That's a good question.
It's scary because it's only about 5 miles from my home, and I live on 59 acres, and I can't get anyone around here to have anything to do with being patriotic.
The patriotic as far as watching television and things of that type.
They don't want to hear nothing about no patriotic group, but I buy shells and armor all the time, and my neighbors seem to think that I'm lost.
Well you just carry on and quietly your neighbors are going to start looking to you for information.
Thank you for your call and we'll hope to hear from you again with an answer to um what you've been seeing.
I'll listen to you every night and I will be watching it and I will get back with you.
Right you know we are on again at uh let's see it would be midnight your time.
I'll catch you at midnight also.
All right bye now.
All right, is there anybody else out there from another part of the country?
We're hitting the east coast and we've hit the west coast.
Talked about Newfoundland and we'd like to hear from somebody that attended Waco and the opening of the trial.
All right, hello.
Hello.
Hello, you're on the air.
Yeah, I'm on, you're listening, but I've been aware of the problem for About 30 years.
Where are you calling from, sir?
Oh, Tampa, Florida.
Tampa, Florida?
Yes, ma'am.
You come in here spasmodically on that radio in short order.
I have found out that they have miseducated just about everybody that they could.
And those that have the most education seem to have the worst, because we've lost the meaning of what a republic and form of government is.
It's absolutely nothing but a contract that you can read to protect your rights.
We lost our credit in 1913 when Congress gave away the credit of the states to the thing called Federal.
If the people look in the Constitution they won't find the word Federal because Federal to us is like Soviet is to the Russian people.
It's hard to tell all this stuff because of a circle of schools, and then the schools, the big, the heavy schools are all controlled by money power.
You know, gravity never changed.
That's the laws of nature, nature's God.
Centripetal force doesn't change.
The laws of nature are kept standard, and no one breaks those laws.
But if you live with the natural law, You're promised in the scriptures that you'll have bountiful harvests and things will work for you.
Right.
And I'm going to thank you.
Your two minutes are up.
Thank you for your call.
Thank you very much.
So it's called from Florida.
All right.
We'll open up the lines for the next caller.
Here they are.
Hello.
Hello.
I'd like to add to the second caller tonight from Los Angeles.
There's a lot of Patriots in Mississippi running into a problem with a lot of Masons joining the Patriot movement.
I have to be very suspicious of them and their motives, but we've been able to identify MJTF training camps where they're warehousing their black helicopters, Soviet and U.N.
trucks, and we're doing like heat of the color in Los Angeles.
We're stockpiling ammunition and guns and uniforms and food and we're in there whipping.
But be very careful who you associate with.
Any cues on how you recognize people?
I've had somebody ask, how can we tell?
Well a lot of the lower ranking masons will just tell you they're a mason.
That's true.
When you identify masons, you basically just have to be very suspicious.
I'm not as adverse as William Cooper is in identifying masons, but many of them will
identify themselves to you.
If you start talking about the Masonic rituals, they might ask you how you know so much.
Or they may contradict what you say.
If you tell them something you know about the Masons, they may say, well, that's not it.
Well, how do you know?
Well, they'll start telling you, well, I am a Mason.
But there's a lot of them out there.
Right and I guess your two minutes are up.
That's helpful though.
People have asked me what are we going to do when things begin?
How are we going to know who's good and who's against us?
All groups.
People you know personally.
Right.
People you've known for a long, long time preferably.
Yes.
Thanks for calling in.
You're welcome.
Thank you.
Bye.
Bye.
All right we'll wait for the next caller and can I remind you that we have a world almanac full of information and if you look in the table of contents you won't find anything in there about CFR Trilateral Bilderberg Group.
Isn't that strange?
Here's our next caller.
Hello you're on the air.
Hi, Carolyn.
I'm Ginny from Saugus, Massachusetts calling.
How are you tonight?
Oh, fine, Ginny.
How are you?
How's your snow up there in cold weather and electricity?
Pretty bad.
We had a night storm and really we didn't move much up here today at all.
I just wanted to touch base with you and tell you that we do have a group going in Massachusetts, New Hampshire.
We have some people from Maine, down in Rhode Island, and I believe one of the callers, Pat, called in earlier from Connecticut.
Yes, that was good.
And we are having a meeting next week, a big one of the New England area.
We had a meeting Saturday night and we did discuss the Gannett Stock and... That's where you wanted me to fax you a copy and you lost all the electricity and I couldn't do it.
Well, I think the electricity is on now and I can call you after the show and get you the number again if you, you know... I have the numbers.
Oh, you do have it, okay.
All right, let's see, what else can I tell you now what we've been doing?
We've been waking people up in this area by going to meetings of our congressmen and passing out, in this state they passed a resolution that the people aren't even aware of for amendments to the Constitution and it was passed by a voice vote and this seems to be enlightening a lot of people because when they read this they're up in arms and they are calling their congressmen And we've had a lot of calls of people wanting to join the organization regarding this particular resolution that has upset them very much.
Very good.
Thanks for calling in.
Okay, and I thank you.
A few minutes are running out and I hope to hear from you again.
You sure will.
Okay, thanks Virginia.
Bye-bye.
Bye.
Well, going to meetings, town meetings in your area can be fruitful.
Here's our next caller.
Hello, you're on the air.
Yeah, my name is George McDowell from Arkansas.
Okay.
Midwest.
Yeah, over here in Arkansas.
And we've been trying to wake up the people because I got my hand on a VCR tape about 30 minutes long concerning the school that President Bill Clinton organized some years ago.
And what it consisted of was he would get the elite students of Arkansas and told them, out of all the ones, y'all have been, y'all are the elite.
You're the cream of the crop.
And they would show films on Nazism and homosexuality.
So that's what we've been doing.
We've been ordering these VCRs and scouting them out across the United States.
So I want to encourage everybody, just do whatever you can do.
Blow the trumpet loud and clear.
Thank you.
Thank you for calling in.
All right, the phones are open again and the number is 602-333-2174.
602-333-2174. Hello, you're on the air.
Hello, Carolyn.
This is Bruce from New York.
Hello, Bruce.
Uh, yeah, I'm hardly getting in.
The reception's really bad.
I don't know if that's a unique problem or if it's that way in general for everybody, but, um... Yeah, I'm calling to report on the Waco trial.
Oh, good.
The survivors.
And, uh, I was down there.
I got down there at the tent, and, uh, when they were going to pick the jury, And, uh, I was a little bit disappointed.
I got there late in the afternoon, and, uh, there weren't that many, um, protesters, but I did hear that that morning there were about 30 protesters.
And, uh, I was also there the third day, and, uh, there were even fewer protesters there.
And, um, I don't know, I just, I felt good being down there.
I felt like, uh, you know, I was doing something I drove all the way from New York to go down there.
It was an opportunity for people who know what's going on to really make a stand and have a voice.
I know it's hard because we're working and we have our lives to live.
You know, I also think it's just important that we really have to understand that our freedoms, you know, there's a price for our freedoms.
And somewhere along the line, we're going to have to, we're really going to have to do a little bit of sacrificing if we are going to get back our country.
We're going to have to take sides, aren't we?
Yeah.
And be right up front.
Did you attract much attention when you were there?
Well, I did because, you know, the media You know, because I was one person with a sign, you know.
What did your sign say?
Oh, my sign said, um, the New Inquisition, uh, uh, let me think if I remember exactly what it said.
The New Inquisition, uh, the Holy FBI ATF branded the, uh, the Branch Davidians as heretics.
And, um, and then I wrote down the, uh, first, second, first and second amendments.
And I think it's the Fourth Amendment, which talks about our rights to be secure in our homes, etc.
So, yeah, you know, the media would come around and take pictures, and I told them how my last name is Wahamadu, which stands for the man of God.
And that name goes back to the French Huguenots that came over here during the During the St.
Bartholomew Massacre over in Europe.
And, uh, you know, it's just a shame, you know, to see where this country has gone.
I mean, my forefathers came over here to, to, uh, get away from that, that sort of thing.
And to see it happening here now, it is, it's really a shame.
And, uh, whether or not, you know, I don't agree with, with, uh, David Koresh's, those people's religion or not is regardless, you know.
What I believe is what I believe and everybody in this country has a right to believe whatever they want to believe.
If they want to believe that God, you know, by all means in this country you've got a right and the government has no right at all, no purpose at all getting into people's, you know, Personal lives.
Personal lives.
Bruce, your time is kind of running a little up, and I agree with you.
Our constitutional rights 1, 2, and 4, freedom of religion, freedom to bear arms, and freedom of privacy in our homes without having windows broken in, were what we were speaking out against when I was on the hillside in Waco.
And, again, when we were at Project 93 on the steps of Washington, D.C.
in September 1993.
It's been quite a last year, wasn't it, Bruce?
Yes, it has been.
And I think we're looking towards a very important year.
And I just hope, you know, I just hope more people who know what's going on, you know, when these opportunities come up, we get up to, you know, take some time off.
Do the sacrifice that needs to be done.
To win back our country.
Yeah.
Thanks for calling Bruce.
Okay.
You're really great.
Okay.
Bye.
Alright, I think we have time for one more caller.
Hello, you're on the air.
Yes, I wanted to let everybody know we had a People's Constitutional Court going in Tampa, Florida.
What is that?
Well, it's a common law constitutional court for the people, and I could give you the clerk's phone number if you don't have time to talk about it right now.
Alright, because we will be breaking in about one minute, and you have that one minute to talk.
A phone number would be good.
Okay, it's 251-9306.
251-9306.
Right, and we need people to refer their problems to the Constitutional Court so that it can be shown support.
How long ago did this start?
About a year and a half or so.
It's been acknowledged as being legitimate by a judge and not that he has any authority over it because it's our court, you know, we the people.
And Congress has been notified and there has been no reaction from Congress.
So it's all legal and it's our court.
I should play the other song again, doing it our way, my way, our way.
We the people, thank you for calling in about it.
Okay.
And we'll talk again.
Thank you, bye.
Bye.
Uh, or actually has an interview with Ken Carter, uh, columnist in Machine Gun News, uh, that, uh, reports to have analyzed, uh, frame by frame and found, uh, editing and, uh, the, uh, comment, quote, Linda Thompson suckered us all with this one.
Uh, it's not extremely well written, and it isn't particularly clear exactly how they found out that the film was a big hoax, but I just thought that, uh, You and Bill might want to check it out.
Would you repeat the name of the source again?
Yes, the source, it is the New Gun Week.
And the issue?
The issue is Friday, January 21, 1994, page 3, and the byline, it is the industry editor of the New Gun Week, and his name is Dean, D-E-A-N, Speyer, S-P-E-Y-E-R.
Well, we'll look into it, and One of these days we will come out with the truth and we'll all be able to agree at least on whatever is true.
We're beginning to hear a lot of different points of view.
Thank you for calling in and sharing that.
You're welcome.
Bye.
Is there another caller out there?
the number is 1-602-333-2174.
We'll wait and see if we can hear from another part of the country.
I know we have heard in the past from Hawaii.
I don't think we've heard from anyone in Alaska yet.
Canada.
1-602-333-2134.
Hello, you're on the air.
602-333-2134.
Hello, you're on the air.
Yes, greetings from Florida.
My name is Robert Donahue.
Hello.
How's it going?
Fine.
Maybe I can just edit that.
That was 2174-333-2174, our fax number.
That's our calling number.
What's going on in your area?
Oh, a lot of stuff.
We've got a lot of little Patriot movement running around.
I run a Macintosh bulletin board, a VPS for computers.
And for about three years now, I've had all sorts of decafiles online.
If you'd like to call, the area code is 813-894-3530.
And they can use any communication software and leave me messages, updates for what else is going on around the world.
Alright, what else do you find is mainly going on in your area that you need to know right now?
We're concerned with a few things.
Right now we're concerned with the gun laws that are really, really starting to come down around our neck.
Number two is Fenton, the black helicopters.
Any and all information from around the United States would be helpful.
We're trying to compile some stuff.
Another thing that I've been noticing and things that I've been told is The D.O.D.
is financing the interstate restructuring.
What is D.O.D.?
The Department of Defense.
Good.
You know, the ravaged areas and the waste stations.
Right.
Being fortified and rebuilt like you wouldn't believe in this area.
The waste stations have been rebuilt for almost eight months now.
There are like four offices down here.
Two lanes going in and out now between Tampa and Orlando and Tampa and Fort Lyons.
They're sitting there dormant.
They're brand new.
They've been sitting there for eight months.
So when they go into effect, we don't know.
So anybody who's got any information on that, they can also call me voice at 813-823-7714.
That's great.
How low did you find the black helicopters were flying in your area?
They're up in Springs.
They're flying about 200 feet.
They're going northeast towards Ocala.
Somewhere during the middle of the day they're flying south.
A little less than that, about 150 feet, 100 feet.
Sometimes they fly real low, like treetops.
Right.
Thanks for the information.
I've heard them, that they've hovered over the tops of some people's cars.
Oh, yeah.
Well, there was a few incidents down here.
We tried to pick them up.
Well, we know where the jubilarium loops are in the local area.
We tried to pick them up on scanners.
We tried to pick them up on frequency counters to see what frequency they're using to talk back and forth.
And one guy pulled the frequency meter out of his car when he seen one go by.
And the guy guessed that he'd seen it or whatever and he thought it was something.
He pointed his belly to the top of the ramp.
The guy didn't even know what he was pulling out of the car.
But, uh, there's that.
It's like harassment down here.
We're being harassed by the government.
We're being harassed by the state and local authorities.
Are you recommending to everybody that they keep cameras and tape recorders?
Most definitely.
The thing that you can possibly arm yourself with is communication.
and from members of your other group or family.
Right.
Definitely keep yourself well supplied with food and water.
And people who have car telephones I understand that they remember to carry them with them.
That's another good, definitely.
Cameras, recording equipment, frequency counters, scanners, anything you can do to help the
cause there.
Right.
I'm going to have to cut you off because it is a little more than two minutes and I certainly
appreciate your call.
God bless you all.
Bye bye. Alright.
Let's see if we can hear from another part of the country.
There are things going on out there.
We need to share them.
Hello, you're on the air.
Yes, Carolyn.
I'm calling from Louisiana.
Oh, great.
I'm calling to alert the people that on the 26th of January at 10 a.m.
at the state capitol, there will be hearings on gun control legislation before a legislative committee.
And I'm calling to urge that everyone from Louisiana please try to be there, even if you have to take a day off from
work.
Because from these hearings, they will decide what type of gun legislation, if any, to try to pass in the legislative
session.
I'm also calling to tell you that we had this raid that took place in Amy, Louisiana, by a multi-jurisdictional
task force.
And in an effort to try to find out what exactly is going on, I called the so-called capitol district law enforcement
planning council for Baton Rouge and 10 other parishes, which would be counties in other parts of the country, and
it seems that they've divided each state up into certain regions by taking an
in grouping counties or parishes together.
And I was calling to ask what type of federal funding had been given to the different sheriffs
for this drug task force, which is bringing in the multi-jurisdictional task force,
including the U.S. Army, used against the people.
And the young lady who answered the phone told me that all of that information is totally secret.
We do not have a right to look at the grants.
And if she were to either tell or let someone look at the grant applications for the fund, she would lose her job.
So I think this boat's very ill in that it seems that we have a secret police that's being imposed right before our very eyes.
We have no right as taxpayers whose money they're using to be used against us
to even see what they promised the federal government they will do.
And so I would urge that everybody look in their area and try to do a little research,
perhaps put the sheriff's on notice that they do not like them entering into agreements
with the federal government for law enforcement.
I also would urge that everyone look in the yellow pages or the blue pages as they are now
and look under military department of emergency preparedness because I found
that we have such a group in Louisiana and I called that number and asked them
if they were FEMA and they said no they weren't FEMA but they were the contact directly
under FEMA for the state of Louisiana.
And so they did give me the FEMA number and I called FEMA and she of course tried to refer me to our regional headquarters in Dallas.
But I think this is being done without the knowledge or consent of the people when they establish a military department of emergency preparedness.
And they are in fact setting up a standing army right before our very eyes without our knowledge or consent.
I would urge if anybody else has information about this, if they please call in and share it with us.
Right, because I think the powers that we're working against are sitting there laughing at us because we aren't looking into all of these things as you are.
And there has been a conspiracy of silence by the news media.
I mean they're nothing but the propaganda arm for the government in that they keep the people ignorant of what is really happening.
Right, but I think we have a responsibility as citizens too to get in there and telephone the media day by day that's not even a long distance call and find out your 1-800 number of your congressman and get on the phone.
And not only with the congressmen but with the local law enforcement people like the sheriffs because they are closer to the people and they do have to be elected.
Right.
And your state congressmen also.
Another thing is considering carrying the Constitution with you at all times because you never know when you're going to need to know your rights.
Well that's right.
It's becoming more and more frequent that we do need to know our rights even though they seem to have no regard for our rights.
But I'll hang up and listen for other calls.
All right.
Thank you for calling.
Well, that was an interesting report.
I think all of us also have to be sure that our children all have a copy of the Constitution that they carry with them at all times, and that they become familiar with it.
Here's another caller.
Hello, you're on the air.
Hi, Carolyn.
Hi.
I wanted to... Where are you calling from?
California.
California.
Southern California.
Southern, okay.
This is Ming.
Ming.
Oh, hello.
Hi.
Talking about children.
No, talking about children, and you're calling in.
Oh, yes.
That's not what I wanted to talk about, though.
I wanted to talk about what everyone else was talking about as far as black helicopters and that they can contact, that it's like a clearinghouse on that.
Her name is Bernadine Smith, and she's head of the Second Amendment Committee here in the United States.
And she's been on a lot of radio talk shows lately.
She's quite in demand.
But people need to be able to contact her so that they can get information directly from her.
And she will send out packets of information so that everyone will have the same information and know where all these sightings are at and what to be looking for and the laws.
She has it all down on paper in black and white and it's amazing what this woman has done and she's spent years and years doing it.
So if you don't mind I'd like to give her phone number out so that people can contact her and I'd like to also ask If you would be willing to get her on the show as a guest.
Well, we'll talk to Mr. Cooper about that when he's feeling better.
Okay.
This sounds very, very important.
Does she have a name of her group?
No, no.
It's the Hanford.
She's the one that drew up the Hanford Initiative, which is a Second Amendment clause that she has been trying to get here in California, into our California Constitution.
She and Senator Don Rodgers And of course, the NRA has been blocking her now for almost eight solid years, and she has spent thousands and thousands of her own dollars trying to get this thing through, fighting the NRA.
But at any rate, can I give... Can I have the phone number?
Go ahead.
Yeah, it's 209-584-5209 and if you guys can get a hold of her and see if you can't get
her on the show, that would be great because people are going to have a lot of questions
Fine.
I have a lot of information to give out.
Thanks for calling in.
Okay.
That's helpful.
Uh-huh.
Bye-bye.
That makes me remember something about certain counties and certain states have declared sovereignty.
It would be interesting to hear something about one of them.
Hello, you're on the air.
Yes, I'm calling from Canada.
Great.
Okay, I'll just turn my radio down here.
Yeah, we got... Which part of Canada?
Ontario.
Okay.
We see the black helicopters up here quite often, too, and we know of five different internment camps that they are building in Canada, and there's probably more.
Do you know where they are?
I'll give you... A rough idea?
I'll give you a name of one.
One is in southern Ontario.
It's called the Meaford Tank Range.
It's near It's about a hundred miles north of Toronto.
You've probably heard of Toronto.
Okay?
Right.
And, uh, there's one in Nova Scotia.
I'm not sure just where that one is.
There's one in Quebec.
Um, another one at, uh, Coon Ridge, Alberta.
And, uh, also in British Columbia somewhere.
So, um, uh, we've seen as many as 15 of these Black Helicopters flying at once from the, the Trans Range.
It's, uh, like an Army facility.
Okay?
Right.
And how low do they fly?
Um, they're somewhere around 300 to 1,000 feet.
Oh, they're pretty far up then.
Yes, they are.
They seem to stay up pretty high.
Um, we understand that there's a place called, uh, Mitchell Millie in Southern Ontario.
It's right across from, um, uh, Detroit.
And, uh, there's a staging area there for these bat helicopters, and they fly back and forth across the border there, okay?
Uh huh, right.
On the airport stage there in the States, so they fly back and forth across.
And we're stocking up for the boot and ammunition and guns and that type of thing, and we have been for a few years.
And warm clothing too, because you have the cold weather.
Yeah, we have some cold weather and we're trying to get retreats ready in the North Country and the West.
We have a newsletter that we presently send out to people.
Could you send us a copy?
Pardon me?
Could you send us a copy?
I certainly will.
Thank you very much.
Thank you for calling in.
Bye-bye.
Bye.
All right.
We'll wait for our next caller.
I could mention that we had a call this morning.
I wasn't here to receive it.
A call from Ireland.
They like very much the lead-in music that William Cooper uses every broadcast.
Hello.
You're on the air.
Hi, Carol.
This is Kathy in Rhode Island.
Oh, Rhode Island.
Hello.
Two things, I'd like to know from Virginia in Massachusetts where that New England meeting was going to be, perhaps at midnight.
Right, well, perhaps Virginia can call in in the evening show.
Will you be listening at midnight?
Well, another thing, I got an interesting brochure in the mail today.
It's called World Citizenship, a Global Ethics for Sustainable Development from... Can you speak up?
Okay, from the Baihai International Community.
It's all about how we can become world citizens and it's like they're working with the U.N.
and they have some interesting topics, the vision of world citizenship, the promotion of world citizenship.
They say the United Nations Government and Educational Agency seeks to make the principle
of world citizenship part of the standard education of every child.
They have a line public awareness and they say campaigns to raise public awareness
of the challenges of world citizenship must make use of the full range of media and the arts.
Then they have the challenge of world citizenship.
World citizenship is a concept as challenging and dynamic as the opportunity to fit into the world community.
And it says it should become the single most important point of ethical reference in all UN activities.
I thought this was a very interesting little brochure tying Bi-Hai in with UN.
And the New World Order.
Oh yeah, isn't it nice how they sent it to me.
I also know as far as education, City Peace Corps has a program.
The Peace Corps did you say?
Peace Corps.
They have a program called Worldwide Schools and they've tried to get it in all the school districts
and they teach internationalism through this program.
And what they do is ask the returned volunteers to come in and talk about the countries they've been
to and you know how wonderful it is and all that.
Which I mean it can be beneficial also but you know rather I.
I can make us forget our American ways though I believe don't you?
Oh well that's the thing I mean I am a citizen living in the world but I want to be a citizen
of the United States of America.
Right. So I just thought I'd throw that out.
Thank you for calling in.
Thank you for your program and God bless you and Bill and his family.
Thank you.
Bye.
Bye.
Well, I think we all have to make an effort to do what Bill has been doing, share the music of our common heritage as Americans and share our symbols and get a little more visibility out there as the United States citizens.
Hello, you're on the air.
Carolyn, this is Ming again, and I forgot to tell you, Bernadine just sent me in the mail a copy of something she got last week.
Facts to her.
They're going to try and get an initiative into California for the One World Government, and they're going to start with California.
This stuff is scary.
She sent me out five pages, and so you guys need to get a hold of her and get a copy of this.
Thanks, Ming.
That's very helpful.
Be on the ballot this year here in California.
Thank you for calling back in with that.
Okay.
Thanks.
Bye.
I think we have time for about one more call.
One or two.
Is there someone out there from an area we haven't heard from?
Here we go.
Hello, you're on the air.
Hi Carol, this is Dave in Albuquerque.
I'm sorry I'm turning down my radio.
That last woman who said she wanted to Uh, be a citizen of the world, but be a citizen of the United States.
We have to be very careful when we say we're a citizen of the United States that we spell that with a capital C, because as we've learned from Ralph Epperson and a lot of other good researchers, if you're a citizen with a small c, that means you're a citizen of what Mitch Motylewski calls the federal zone, or you're a citizen of the total jurisdiction Very good.
Congress under Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17 of the Constitution, which gives them dictatorial
powers over Washington, D.C. and all the federal enclaves and forts and things.
So let's just be very careful what we call ourselves, so we know that we mean a citizen
of the 50 states united.
Very good.
I'm glad you called and reminded us of that point.
Yeah, that's a really...
It's important.
I'm just starting to get a handle on understanding how that works.
I strongly recommend Mitch Modeleski's book, The Federal Zone, and if you'd like, I'd be happy to give you the address.
He has a group called The Account for Better Citizenship, and that is careofuspspostofficebox6189.
San Rafael, California Republic.
He says don't use the two-letter abbreviations for the states because that identifies you.
That's another way they trick you into becoming a 14th Amendment.
Right, and I'm going to have to cut you off.
People can call in for the information.
Thank you for calling about that.
You're welcome, Carol.
We'll say goodbye to this caller.
To everyone around the world that's been listening, I think maybe you've had your eyes open tonight.
There are things going on.
People are preparing for what is coming down.
Remember to call Gene Miller at SWITH AMERICA 1-800-BUY-COIN and listen to this.
And now the end is near, and so I face the final curtain.
My friends, I'll say it clear, I'll take my cake, which I'm serving.
I live a life that's full.
I travel in every highway and more.
Much more than this.
I did it my way.
Regrets, I've had a few.
But then again, too few to mention.
I did what I had to do.
Saw it through without exemption.
I planned each chartered court, each chapel set on the byway.
Oh, much more than this.
I did it my way.
Yes, there was I. I'm sure it is.
the world.
I say hello, and I should go, and it is my way.
I've loved, I've laughed and cried, I've had my fill.
I share all the clues they give And the love that tears us apart
I find it all so amusing To think I'd get all that
And may I say Not in a shy way
Oh no.
Oh no, not me.
I did it my way.
For what it is a man's duty, One has he got to do.
Oh, it's not himself.
Then he has got, don't say the spell.
He's doing well.
And not the water, but my meal.
Yes, it was mine.
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