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Jan. 18, 1994 - Bill Cooper
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I'm going to play a little bit of the original version of this song.
Welcome to the Hour of the Time.
to all of you around the world.
William Cooper is still not feeling well and we're glad that he did the program last night but it Really has delayed his recovery.
He's listening at home with his wife Annie and his daughter Poo and he's scheduled for us another call in at this hour.
Call in to 602-333-2174 with all of you listeners telling us what is going on in your area.
In two minutes, try to prepare your talk to tell us what's going on
and I'll open the lines in just a few moments.
Keep it accurate and without any accusations that you can't prove.
We'd like to hear from someone about Waco and also about the earthquake in Los Angeles.
I do know that there's an ice storm that's taken place up in Nashua, New Hampshire.
My parents there Have reported that they've had an electricity stop for about three hour periods and I've heard this in Massachusetts and Washington DC also.
There's a suggestion that you prepare for a lot of these difficulties and get out your gas heaters for there's probably more to come.
Be sure to order the tape of tonight's earlier program.
I think the listeners really shared a lot of meaningful information about the dangers we're facing in this country.
You can order the tape from CAGI, Post Office Box 1420, Sholo, Arizona, 85901.
You can also telephone me seven days a week at 602-333-5174 for information here at the
Research Library and Broadcasting Studio of William Cooper's Citizens Agency for Joint Intelligence.
That's CAJI.
If you send a dollar with a self-addressed stamped envelope you can get the information packet as for the Gannett stock information and you might even ask to have the book Behold a Pale Horse sent at the same time.
It'll save time and you're getting some vital information for what we have to face in the future.
I have a report here from Nova Scotia that someone is waiting there to hear the new program that is being broadcasted out of Newfoundland.
I have a letter from Jim Fiddler in Newfoundland saying, Dear Bill and Carolyn, I'm writing you this letter to tell you some very good news.
At 6 p.m.
on Friday, January 14th, 1994, The Hour of the Time debuted on CHMRFM in St.
John's, Newfoundland, the oldest city in North America, where my coney received the first wireless radio signal just after the turn of the century.
CHMR FM is at 93.5, cable 103.7.
Jim Fidler and his group there are going to be working on fundraising for equipment so that they can have live broadcasts.
Be sure to listen on Friday from 11 to 12 in the morning.
If I mentioned 6 p.m., please correct that to 11 to 12 on Fridays.
Now, we'll open the lines if there's somebody calling in.
Here's someone.
Hello, you're on the air.
This is Jeffrey Dike of returning from New Orleans with good news for your campaigns.
First of all, I was able to get in contact with the American Family Association and with Focus on the Family and gave them your address.
Tonight the John Birch Society had a meeting in Metairie at the Landmark Hotel with John McManus as featured speaker.
I was able to give the address and name of the organization and the program about the stocks at that time and received a few inquiries at that meeting.
Of course McManus has put on a brand new book entitled The Financial Peril or something like that.
At any rate, he's going along the same lines as Cooper.
In terms of pointing out how the Federal Reserve is putting us in such debt conditions that they want to threaten us with either liquidation or the New World Order, etc.
Naturally, he's also promoting aspects of the Birch Society, such as tax reform immediately, in which you take bulletins about your congressmen and spread them throughout the district to let people know what your congressmen are doing.
All in all, a hundred people attended the meeting, and it was very well received.
Well, that's really very good information, and you've really compiled it well to fit into the two minutes.
I thank you for calling.
Thank you.
Alright, let's see if we can hear from someone else.
The number is 333-2174.
Area code is 602.
Is there anyone out there waiting to call in?
Here's a caller.
Hello, you're on the air.
Hi, how are you tonight?
Fine.
Where are you calling from?
Fort Worth, Texas.
I had called and talked the other evening and he told me to call back.
Well, I was calling about tonight.
I just got out of a meeting we had here in Dallas.
It's two Tuesday nights a month.
There's a group called the Citizens for Legal Reform.
And, anyway, Michael Benn was there.
He was not the main topic speaker at this group, but he was, you know, Michael Benn is the guy that's putting the Impeach Clinton thing together.
And he was telling us about a real interesting thing that happened a few weeks ago.
The Secret Service people had come out to his house and was questioning his motives
and how his thing got so big so quick and with not that much money behind it.
But a few days later, he said, real early one morning, he was awoken by some noise.
He went outside and said the fog was real heavy.
And there were these black military helicopters above the houses.
And a little bit later, a friend of his that lived across the street, his house burnt to
the ground.
And the more they got to checking, his house, his and Michael Ben's house were constructed
exactly physically exactly the same.
And they said they thought lightning had hit this house and burned it down.
And he thought it was just very, very interesting how all these things happened just at the same time that these helicopters were, you know, hovering right over.
they were so close to his house that they blew 21 shingles off of his roof onto his yard
but everything they got the wrong house and uh his neighbor's house mysteriously burnt to the ground
thought y'all might be interested in that that is interesting could you tell us again where you from
i'm from Fort Worth Texas Fort Worth Texas this meeting is in is in Dallas Texas it's uh the
second Tuesday of every single month and there was about uh four or five hundred people at the
meeting tonight and he just got up gave a short little little speech and telling people what was
going on he said at this point he has over 15 million uh signatures uh on the petitions to
impeach Clinton and said there is also a trial going on in the Kansas City area that is getting
no coverage that has documented proof that Clinton was a KGB agent
Now, you know, I have not even heard of the case but he was just referring to it and referred how you got no media coverage on this trial at all.
I just thought it was interesting that these black helicopters were above this man's house We thank you for calling in for the hour of the time and giving us that information.
You will remember that impeachment of President Clinton may not be the route that we'll be able to go, but perhaps if the evidence is clear enough, there will be an impeachment.
We'll ask for the next caller.
See if there's someone right here calling in.
Remember that while you're looking for ways to protect yourself that you can help us with purchase of Gannett stock.
Many people are turning their IRAs in and purchasing stocks so that we can go to the stockholders meeting in May and Have something to say about more truth getting into the media.
Hello, you're on the air.
Hey Carol, this is Tom in Fort Worth.
Uh, the other caller, uh, did real well, except for one thing, we need to get the word out where Michael Benn can be reached.
Um, he can be reached at post office box 671054.
671054 Post Office Box 671054
Dallas, Texas 75367 75367.
You can write to Mr. Ben and he'll send you a package and some petition forms.
Fine.
Thank you for your information.
Okay, Carolyn.
You're doing a great job.
Thank you.
Bye-bye.
Bye.
All right we'll get ready now for the next caller and remember the number is 1-602-333-2174.
That's also our fax number during the day if you have information that you'd like to send along to us or you can send it in a letter by mail.
Be sure to include the top of the newspaper with the name of the newspaper and the date.
All right here's another caller.
Hello you're on the air.
Oh, hi.
This is Connie from Connecticut.
I have a slight speech impediment.
Bear with.
I first started listening to you when you had that young man from Arizona.
That was my very first time I heard you, who was beseeched by the FCC.
Oh.
Remember him?
Right.
Absolutely.
William Duggan.
We need a few more of him around here.
Desperately.
But this place, your earlier caller didn't say, is a hot spot.
Stronghold of, uh, let's say the insider power, okay?
Half of our Washington delegation is listed as members, and you feel their hands on your throat at every step.
I do mean the media, and let's say the Washington Post owns the mainpapers, the TV affiliates, and we get the news accordingly, okay?
So we desperately need a Mr. Duke in these parts.
We have only two AM stations left with Patriots broadcasting locally.
We're very glad to have your shortwave here.
And we have only one little paper that's telling the truth, the Connecticut Beacon.
So, besides that, I just wanted to ask you if perhaps sometime in the near future that Mr. Cooper would do a broadcast on counting the ballots.
There's much said, there's a lot of suspicion about the ballots, okay?
Alright, you know he's listening at home, so everybody out there calling in, you're talking to him as well as to me.
Yes, well that's very much desired by many people that I know, okay?
This is a very difficult thing to... Alright, and I know also that if William Dugan is listening out there, you'd probably like to hear from him too.
Absolutely, how he does it, I remember the case very, very well.
I was absolutely hypnotized by it.
Alright.
Alright, we'll be waiting now for the next caller.
Here they are.
Hello, you're on the air.
Hi, I'm calling from Los Angeles.
And first of all, I just want to let you know that you're doing a good job in your work.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
And I just want to say, I noticed that in certain parts of the nation, it seems like there's a strong picture of women in other places that people are still kind of So we say hello here, and I just want to let the people out there know that here in Los Angeles, there is a patriot organization that doesn't really even have any name to it.
It's just a bunch of patriots that get together on a weekly basis, and they discuss different issues pertaining to America, the Constitution, and the conflict with the New World Order.
And this group has between roughly 50 or 60 People on our weekly meetings and on the monthly meetings we have about maybe two to three hundred people.
And this is all done on a grassroots level.
And we have our words spread over a talk radio station on the AM band.
And the people there go ahead and let you call in and talk about your feelings or your opinion on things.
It sounds like a good movement.
I hope everybody else around the country is listening.
Hawaii, also, and Alaska.
from NBC News and PBS and the Los Angeles Times and the rest of the establishment media.
It sounds like a good movement. I hope everybody else around the country is listening.
Hawaii also and Alaska. Do you think all of the people that you're involved with have copies of the Constitution?
And that their children have copies?
I would say most of them do.
I don't know that all of them do, but an awful lot of them know the Constitution well, and we're out there fighting for it on the municipal level, the state level, and on the national level as well.
Good.
Thank you for calling.
Thank you, and you have a good night.
Thank you.
You too.
Bye.
All right, we'll wait for the next caller.
Here they are, ready to go.
Hello, you're on the air.
Hi, Carol.
This is Jim from Northern Michigan.
How you doing tonight?
Oh, just fine.
That's great.
A little bit of the Middle West, Middle East.
Yeah, about 25 below at night.
I hope Bill is feeling better and I just wanted to say I listened to Tom Valentine earlier tonight on shortwave and recovering that Waco trial and it'd be good for people to tune in, you know, to whatever programs they can get information out to find out what's going on.
And one more thing, it's like we were talking about the other night.
It's best to buy your guns and ammo now because it looks like it's the last round up, if you know what I mean.
Right, and I think we're all out there buying generic stock also so that we can get more truth out there to everyone.
Yes, indeed.
Well, you have a good night.
I'll get off here early and tell Bill thanks for giving out truthful information.
Can't believe the big three, so you have a good night, Carolyn.
Thank you.
Goodbye.
Bye.
Alright, we're ready for the next caller and remember the number is 602-333-2174.
Here we go.
Hello, you're on the air.
Hi, this is Michelle from Norman, Oklahoma.
Hello, hello Michelle.
Hi, I want some information about this Gannett stock.
Where can I get it and how does it help the show?
All right, we'll deal with that another day.
Do you have any information from your area of what's going on?
Are you a new listener?
I am a very new listener.
I have followed the conspiracy theories for a long time but this is the most in-depth I've ever heard and it's fascinating and I've become a regular listener.
Uh, I bet a lot of stuff sort of goes over my head because I have not heard the background.
Right.
Well, we'll deal with that on another program and do you have any information to share from your area?
No, not really.
I just wanted to find out how I could help.
Alright, we'll be talking another time.
You can call me right here in the studio and we'll go on to the next caller for information tonight.
Okay, thank you.
Thanks for calling.
Alright, we're waiting for the next caller.
Here they are.
Hello, you're on the air.
Yes, I'm calling from Wisconsin.
I just have a sense that your callers may be paranoid.
I don't know if you're talking about Quentin being a KGB agent.
Certainly something like that would have come to light throughout the course of the campaign with as much talk about his affairs with Jennifer Flowers and so forth.
Can you give me some sense of what this might be all about?
Well, I think the program tonight is to cover activities that are going on in your own area.
The evidence is there, and you can call in later and speak about this, but do you have anything going on in your area that you can share with us?
No, not necessarily.
I've just tuned in.
You're a fairly new listener, you mean?
Yes.
Well, welcome to the program, and we'll talk later, all right?
Thank you.
All right, we'll wait for the next caller here.
333-2174.
Hello, you're on the air.
Hi, it's Lawrence speaking.
Hello, Lawrence.
Yeah, I'm calling from the Laurentian Mountains in Canada.
Great, I hope you have some good news to tell us from Canada about activities going on in your area.
Well, no, that wasn't exactly why I called, because I... sometimes I can't get you at night, and then when I do get you, some religious music comes in and I can't hear you.
How do I write to Bill Cooper?
Uh, the address I gave earlier is Post Office Box... But I just got you.
Right.
Post Office Box 1420.
1420.
Sholow, capital S-H-O-W.
1-4-2-0 Sholow, capital S-H-O-W
H-A-L-O-W Capital S-H-O-W, capital L-O-W
Yes, S-H, yeah A-Z, Arizona
Yes 8-5-9-0-1
Yeah, I wish we had a program like that here in Canada Well, tune in.
Remember that we broadcast at 6 and 10 p.m.
Mountain Time.
You can figure out the time in your own way.
Yeah, there is a big time difference, but usually you come on at midnight here.
We'll talk another time because we are focusing on the subject of what's going on in your area.
Yes, I know.
Send in for an information packet.
Yes.
All right?
Yeah, okay.
Because, you know, don't forget, what's happening down there can come up here.
That's right.
And this is why I'm always very interested.
I'm glad you put it that way, because we are fighting for our Constitution and Bill of Rights and Freedom in this country, and it is definitely going to affect the rest of the world.
Yeah, because when our Prime Minister was in with Bush all the time, it's affected us, too.
That's right.
So, thank you very much, Carol.
Thank you for calling.
I will.
Bye.
All right, we'll wait for the next caller.
Here they are.
Hello, you're on the air.
Yeah, I'm calling from Baltimore, Maryland, and I just wanted to give you an update on the raid that happened downtown.
I'm not sure if anybody's called in about this, but we have sort of a red light district called The Block.
It's about two square blocks not far from our inner harbor area.
Our governor authorized the National Guard to come in and perform a raid, and they gave many different reasons for coming in.
Liquor license violations, prostitution, drug distribution, and I think there was a total of 25 warrants that were served.
There were some people that were held for about six hours or so.
handcuffed and they, it's supposedly the space on probable cause.
I'm trying to think of anything else.
Right, let me just, while you think, I'll just ask you a question.
Was this announced ahead of time? Did people know about this ahead of time?
Not to my knowledge.
I heard about this from a report on the Zoe Hieronymus show on WCVM, and she basically said that the Maryland
Constitution prevents something like this from happening.
prevents something like this from happening.
That our state constitution is supposed to guarantee that such an action would be authorized by both the governor and
That our state constitution is supposed to guarantee that such an action would be authorized
by both the governor and the state legislation.
the state legislation, but since the legislation is out, And she basically said that the Maryland Constitution
But since the legislation is out, basically the governor has taken it upon his hands to perform the raid anyway.
And of course we were told that it was basically just to get rid of crime.
I also heard that actions like this are being performed around the country in order to get funds from the newly
passed crime bill.
And so a lot of people suspect that was the reason for the raid.
Well, it might be one of the reasons that's given, but we can't always believe everything we hear.
Can you tell me what day this happened, and did you find anything reported in the press besides this one radio program?
Yes, it was reported in the Baltimore Sun, and if I'm not mistaken, it happened, it was this past weekend, for the Martin Luther King weekend, it was either, I think it was Saturday or Sunday, I can't remember though.
Well, thank you very much for your information.
That was a good report.
Okay.
Thank you.
Bye.
Bye.
All right, we have a new caller.
I'll try to keep this down so that you don't get the bad sounds over the air.
Hello, you're on the air.
Yes.
My name is Tom Jefferson Sebastian.
I see.
We have a special caller.
We have a special caller with a very special piece of information.
All right, we have another caller.
Hello, you're on the air.
Hi, Carolyn.
My name is Guy Hiller.
I'm calling from Lambertville, New Jersey.
Hello, Guy.
I just wanted to inform you that around December 31st in the Philadelphia Inquirer they were
handing out free leaflets for Freemasonry in Pennsylvania and around the world.
And I wanted to know if this was peculiar, if this was a recruitment drive of sorts,
seeing they were a secret society.
It made me kind of curious why they'd be putting leaflets in major newspapers.
Maybe we'll hear from some other callers.
We did have a few of them sent to us.
I believe they were 16 to 20 pages long.
Yeah, exactly.
And also I read in the same newspaper on January the 12th a very famous baseball pitcher named
Steve Carlton, who's very popular in Philadelphia, was speaking openly about the Skull and Bone Society.
And it's pretty peculiar that people with big names are now realizing what's going on in the conspiracy.
And it's about 40 degrees below zero here in New Jersey.
Well, thanks for your call, and I think people like you are helping to wake up the sheeple out there that are not aware of what's going on in our country and in the world.
Well, thank you.
I also wanted to know if there was a way that I might be able to get information on when Mr. Cooper would be touring with seminars.
Uh, I think the best way is to keep listening.
Okay.
And if you, uh, purchase the tape of the 6 o'clock program tonight, you might, um, get an inkling of something that might be in the wind, as they say.
Okay, well, I appreciate your time, and, uh, good luck to you, and I'm really glad, uh, to see you as an addition to the show.
Oh, thank you.
All right, bye-bye.
Thanks for calling in.
Bye.
The number is 333-2174.
Here's the new caller.
Hello, welcome to the show.
Hello, how are you doing?
This is Randy in Illinois.
I'm in the Chicago area.
Hi Randy, what's going on in your area for a good two minutes?
Okay, it's very cold here.
It's 20 below zero and I must say the paranoia going across the land is sweeping here too on guns.
The state of Illinois is Uh, in the verge of, uh, passing a, uh, what they call a, uh, assault weapon ban.
Who knows what an assault weapon is?
Uh, the governor of Illinois proposed it.
He's got, he's a Republican and he's been an NRA, National Rifle Association, back to man.
Uh, they've, they've supported him.
and he's a gunner himself, our Republican Governor, Edgar.
And he has been, his heels have been chewed on
by Democrat contenders for governor, and they're all assault weapon banners,
and from the Chicago area.
And so he proposed this ban.
So I guess he's a turncoat.
Fortunately, in our house, we have a nice gentleman.
He's a Republican named Paige Phillip from DuPage County, where I'm from, west of Chicago.
And he says the governor doesn't get everything the governor wants, so he can afford this.
Also, the state of Illinois does not have what they call a local preemption bill to preempt local laws on gun issues.
So this session, no later than March probably, there will be a law passed saying that only Illinois makes law governing guns.
So Cook County, which is Chicago's county in Chicago, their illegal gun bans ought to be upturned and any other things ought to be, you know, negated.
And I just want to say, I know that the federal government is We've got legislation to ban guns, but I must say that people need to get out there and get involved in their local issues because it seems like the paranoia to ban guns and the bills that are coming out to ban guns are coming at the local and, you know, lesser government areas.
So, you know, people need to get down to their county boards and meetings and their state legislatures and their city governments, municipal authorities, and they need to Thank you.
That's a really good summary.
the people, these people not only ban guns, they tell you you can't have them anymore.
Thank you. That's a really good summary. People have to get involved, right?
If the federal government is going to ban guns, they'll probably let you keep what you've
got, but these local governments, they say you've got two weeks to get them out of the
county, and if you keep them, they're going to put you in jail.
Thanks for your information.
I'm glad you called.
And remember, if you join the NRA, you've already registered your guns.
Yep.
Yep.
Thank you.
Alright, here's our next caller.
Hello, you're on the air.
Hello, Ms.
Nelson.
How are you?
This is Dr. Sam.
Well, hello, Dr. Sam.
How are you tonight?
Oh, just fine.
What information do you have?
Well, you know, the gentleman was talking about Illinois up there and how they're I'm taking your gun rights away, but I just want to bring to your attention that a gentleman by the name of Elijah Kent Kane wrote the Illinois Constitution and he was a 32nd degree mason and he also wrote out the rights to keep and bear arms in the state of Illinois.
I just wonder how many Illinoisans know this little bit of history.
Uh, thank you for sharing that.
Now, wait just a minute.
I got something else I want to tell you, too.
And just be aware, I might have to cut you off if the break comes, but I'll keep you on... Okay, I just want you, everyone, to go down into the grocery stores and start looking at these, uh, triangles that you're seeing on all of your food, on all of these, uh, boxes and everything, of cereal and everything.
This is this new age movement that, uh, Mr. Cooker's been talking about.
And also, look at the U and K on all of your canned goods.
This is another New Age closure tax that's put on food.
Right, and I think many people are counting dozens of triangles and pyramids.
Well, you see them on television and every place else.
I mean, they're trying to imprint this into people's minds that this New Age movement is good for the American people, but what it is, it's enslavement.
Right, and what we... And the Masonic Order is behind all of this.
Right, and we need to get some...
Take over and uh...
repeat that last sentence?
Well, I just say I hope all of your listeners will go to their grocery stores and look for
these triangles on all of these food and the canned goods and everything and these U's
and K's and then go ask your store merchants what this means and see what they tell you.
Spread the word.
Yeah, ask them and say, what is this here?
Am I having to pay a tax on it?
They'll find out that they are.
Thank you for calling and for the information.
Thank you.
Thank you.
We have another caller.
Hello, you're on the air.
Hi, I was wondering if I might be able to read a couple paragraphs from an article I found.
We are talking about things that are going on in our area.
Can you relate it to your area and what's going on?
It has to do with jury selection for political trials.
Alright, a couple of sentences.
It says here, Congressman George Hampson, in testimony before the House Ways and Means
Oversight Committee on 4-26-82, described how the wife of a South Dakota man convicted
for a tax crime told him that the U.S. Attorney had access to information on the personal
tax situation of all members of the jury who sat on the case.
The defense attorney was embarrassed to ask about it, or even questioned whether the U.S.
Attorney was acting properly, but it turned out that he had such information on every
person called to serve on every jury, even when the defendant was not being tried for
an income tax violation.
That's one paragraph from an article in the summer issue, 1992, of the Fully Informed
Jury Association.
The title of the article is, How Uncle Sam Bats 1,000 in IRS and Political Trials, and
Thank you, sir.
That's very informative, and I'm going to- Get the article.
Pardon?
See if you can find the article for your- Fine.
We will.
Thank you for your call and for the information we're going to go into our little music break.
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Alright, we're ready for another caller.
Here we go.
Hello, you're on the air.
Yes, good evening.
This is Jack from Alpha Data.
I had a report that I thought Bill would be most interested in, and the listeners too.
It had to do with us returning from the Sierras, coming down 395, and about four to six minutes past China Lake, I noticed, seeing I was the passenger, we traded off doing the driving schedule, and as I was sitting there, looking out the window towards China Lake direction as we just passed it, I noticed it was a very clear sky, And in the middle off to heading on the eastern side of the 395 heading south, that's 395, uh, the highway, we noticed a, uh, I noticed a dark, massive cloud just hanging about 1,000 yards off of the highway.
I told Joe to pull over, and we studied it, and we turned the lights off and watched this thing.
As I watched, I think what we were viewing was some very advanced form of electronic
camouflage on a B-2 bomber, parked in anti-grav mode, just sitting right there, because I
looked everywhere around with binoculars to find another Crab like it.
The reason I believe it was camouflage was because the capability of this technology
to obscure the density of the craft itself, like for instance the front edge leading wing
edge, would apparently show from moment to moment as the cloud would move around the
wing and it would kind of enfold, meaning it was an electronic envelope of some sort.
When apparently they saw our car pull over and kill the lights, I would think that that
cockpit must have been staring straight at us.
They must have said, turn and move.
And I got the psychic feeling there was actually intelligence sitting there.
They turned it, this craft, this cloud, if you will, backed up into an 18 mile an hour
wind, made a 60 degree flat rotation into the wind directly, and headed off into the
wind at about 30 miles an hour to 40 miles an hour.
And I thought that you might be interested, your listeners, to hear that there might be
additional other kinds of testing going on in the scope of electronic camouflaging, which
we should not forget that this technology can be applied to ground-based solid stationary
sites.
Thank you.
That's really very interesting.
Can you remind us again the date and...
I will give it exactly.
That would be January the 8th, 1994, Saturday at about 1054 was the sighting.
It was all over by 1102.
And where was this?
On US-395 heading south, just about four and a half minutes past the rich crest turnoff.
And it seemed, the main thing to say is, I felt that they felt us watching them and turned the craft away.
They didn't want to be observed, but I also get the intention that this is how they check whether their camouflage netting system is working properly.
They'll pull the craft up near the highway and see if anyone calls in a UFO report.
Right.
Would you tell us again the state?
California.
Okay.
China Lake.
Now what you're saying again too reminds us that we need to keep with us cameras, video
cameras, tape recorders, and keep a journal with you so that you can record accurate data
as you have shared with us tonight.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
Excellent call.
Thanks.
All right, we'll wait for the next caller.
2-1-7-4.
3-3-3.
2-1-7-4.
You're on the air.
Hi, I just wanted to make a comment regarding the guy who called up about the symbols and said that it had to do with the New Age movement.
This guy has no idea what he's talking about.
If he knows anything about kosher supervision, those are all symbols that are used
for kosher supervision that has nothing to do with the New Age movement.
And if he wanted to get a whole guide, a shopping guide for the kosher consumer,
he could call the New York State Consumer Protection Board at 99 Washington Avenue,
Albany, New York, 12210, and you'd get a listing of about 50 of them.
Thank you for your information.
Alright, so at least you have some information there.
Also, I don't know of anything going on in New York, which is where I'm calling from,
basically the Manhattan area, anything as far as patriots.
All I know is patriots for profit out here.
There's nobody that's doing any serious work.
So I hope there's somebody listening.
Who might get in contact with you and spread the word as to what we can do around here.
Remember, you're there.
You have already begun just by being interested and by starting to ask questions.
Thanks for calling.
Okay, bye-bye.
Well, I think we will have to research that a little further.
I find that a lot of the triangular food information Pyramid shapes on the back of loaves of bread is not an accident, though it explains a lot of what is in the foods.
Here we have another caller.
Hello, you're on the air.
Hi, I'm calling from Beaumont, Texas.
There's something going on here.
It's really outside of Beaumont, a town called Viner, Texas.
Right.
Are you familiar with that?
I'm sure some of our listeners are too.
Well it's been in national news because there's an all-white housing project and they're trying to integrate it and the federal government, well Housing and Urban Development has come down and taken over the housing authority, excuse me, in the county that's right outside of Beaumont and it seems to me that it's sort of like a The Order Out of Chaos Theory because there's really never been any racial strife in recent years in my observance around here.
And now this has made national news and the Klu Klux Klan, the Klu Klux Klan from outside of Vidar has come in.
The Grand Dragon of the KKK of Texas who is from Waco has come down.
So it's all outsiders that have come down here.
You know, making it look like there's a white separatist type thing down here.
Now, Vardy has a history of KKK in it, but, um, I don't know, it's just kind of strange what's going on.
Could you elaborate just a little more on the media coverage?
Because you know that much does not enter the media.
Okay.
Well, this has made national news.
It's been on, uh, well, it's been on a lot of the talk shows, like Montel Williams came down here.
It's been on current affair, which they did a very sensationalized type thing.
But all the people who were making the uproar from outside the area, like the Grand Dragon from Waco, Texas.
What's strange about it, I don't know.
Waco is where the Grand Lodge of Freemasonry in Texas is, by the way.
This area has a lot of strong Masonic background, like Beaumont, Texas was Really got its start when the Spindletop Crusher came in in the 1900s.
And the local university here, Lamar University, was founded or named after Mirabu B. Lamar, who was a Republican Texas president.
He was a free nation.
Vider, I was looking in the phone book the other day, there's a place called Tuvalcaine Industries in Vider.
And Tuvalcaine is the password for the third degree I thought it was kind of strange to actually have two ball
game industries.
But, I don't know, it's just hard to tell with all this media attention on it and Washington
D.C. coming down here.
They asked the whole Housing Authority Board to resign and they took it over and they're
running it.
They just moved in, I think, ten black families and they have a fence around it.
They have federal, I believe federal marshals are down there.
What kind of a fence?
It's a chain link fence.
They put it around the whole housing project.
They're just making a big deal out of nothing it seems like.
The fact that it did hit the media tells you something because so much of the important news is not reaching us through the regular media.
Right, well it seems like they've made a media circus out of it to call attention to it.
Right, that includes the newspapers where you're from?
Oh yeah, and this has been in national papers.
It's been on national news.
Henry Cisneros was down here.
I'm not sure his position in Housing, Urban Development.
He's on the cabinet, I believe.
So he was down here.
Janet Reno was here, by the way, Monday for Martin Luther King Day, but she had some comments on Viner, Texas.
Texas Monthly Magazine had a cover story about it.
They call it the most hate-filled town in America.
But I don't think it really is.
I think there is racism in every town.
That's what it seems like is going on.
It's pretty interesting though.
I'm sure if you watch the news you're going to be hearing more about it because I believe there may be some actual violence if it just goes on.
The black families who have been there have had to move out because it's supposed to be harassment.
But I think the harassment actually is coming from outside.
Right.
We'll look for you for some further information on this then.
Be sure to mail it in or fax it in.
Okay, sure will.
Thanks a lot for calling.
Okay.
Do we have another caller?
Here we are.
You're on the air.
Hello.
Oh, gee, it didn't even ring.
Yes, I wanted to talk about some executive orders that were signed by Oklahoma Governor David Walters concerning youth education in Oklahoma.
Very good.
He has signed an executive order, and I'm going to quote from it here.
He's established a commission of comprehensive health education.
And it says, the commission shall collect and assess relevant data and survey instruments regarding comprehensive health issues including, but not limited to, the Youth Risk Behavioral Survey supported by the Federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
Now this Youth Risk Behavioral Survey is a test, a psychological test, Which is being illegally given to students in the public schools in Oklahoma.
And they are trying to assess and develop rapid adaptation to change without protest.
And a lot of this has to do with sexual attitudes and do your parents smoke or drink or do your parents own guns?
And now that owning a gun has become a health issue, this is going to fall
under the disease and control prevention situation.
And another order that he signed relating to the same thing talks about that the parents have
to sign a consent form for their children to take these tests.
It says these services shall be held confidential.
But then it says all information shared with the schools or any other entity will be released only by informed
consent between provider and parent or guardian unless otherwise required by state
or federal law.
Well, since this youth risk behavioral survey is supported and funded by the Federal Centers
for Disease Control Prevention, that information is required to be released without consent.
We might like to hear from some of the mothers and fathers of the children who are refusing to sign up.
Oh, yes.
Well we've had several here and there's been a big stink in Oklahoma about it
and the news media has carried a lot of information pro and con.
And several parents have refused to allow their children to take the tests
and their children have been kicked out of school.
And some teachers are saying oh we don't want to do it and others are saying it's harmless.
It's a, it's a really an inflammatory issue.
Thank you.
And I'm just thankful for homeschool.
That's right.
Homeschooling is the move for the present and the future.
Thank you for your call and we'll move on to the next person.
I hope you'll get back to us with follow-up.
I would like to send you faxes if they stop you.
Thank you.
Very good.
Okay, thank you.
Good night.
Alright, the next caller.
Hello, you're on the air.
Yes, Carol, I'm Sherry from South Dakota.
Hello, Sherry.
I met with a couple Senators the other day, and they are going to be taking a vote on federal control of all utilities.
Not only here in South Dakota, but they said it's going to go nationwide.
That is a stunner, isn't it?
Yeah.
But it's going to be this legislative time, and I guess within a couple weeks they'll be voting on it.
And the crime bill I think is going to be voted on too by the end of February?
They didn't say anything about that.
They just said that it was pretty much already in tact because if they vote no then they're going to threaten them with withholding funds.
If they vote no on, be clear to the listeners, vote no on what?
on complete federal control of all the utilities and that's the urban, you know, the rural areas.
Well, this sounds like something that the people could get together and stop and think about
what it means to sacrifice or to go without or to do with less in order to uphold your
constitution and your rights and not live by federal funds at all times.
Well, one of the senators said that if it goes through, which it probably will, he said, We will then become the United Socialist State of America, completely.
Then this is something we have to pay attention to.
Thank you for calling Sherry.
One other thing, I wanted to let you know that I'm going to be sending you half of my ties.
I can't afford to buy the Yannick stuff, but maybe that'll help.
And maybe some others will think about doing that too.
We'll talk about it later.
Thank you, Sherry.
Good night to everyone around the world.
I hope you've listened carefully to the programs at 6 p.m.
tonight and 10 p.m.
Mountain Time.
It's serious, the problems that we're dealing with.
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