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Aug. 24, 1993 - Bill Cooper
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Rita Riddle & Ken Fawcett exposed
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The Greatest Showman.
You're listening to the Hour of the Time.
Good evening ladies and gentlemen, you're listening to the hour of the time.
I'm William Cooper and I'm Carolyn Nelson.
I'm Carolyn Nelson.
That was my fault, folks.
I had the pot turned down there.
The pot is the little switch.
Well, ladies and gentlemen, you know, I turned on the radio about 15 minutes before we went on the air just so that we could have a countdown because we have to cue in with the station identification to go on the air.
And I heard Tom Valentine tell another lie tonight.
And like I said, Tom, you're a liar.
You are a liar.
And if you're not, sue me.
We'll take it all into court and the whole thing will come spilling out and the whole world will know what you are, my friend.
I'm holding in my hand a publication.
I'm going to read you just part of it, ladies and gentlemen.
It says here, The Members of the Brotherhood, The Members of the Brotherhood, are often referred to as scientist-philosophers.
The Brotherhoods have spent millennia gathering information from human technology, insights from the Masters, and the truths given by Melchizedek to Masters of the Council of Thirteen when he meets with them.
The Brotherhoods have been passing along pertinent data to their students to help them better understand the current condition of society.
Bit by bit they have striven to uplift man and set the truth before him for his consideration.
Nevertheless, man persists in pursuing his old familiar delusions with the exception of a few individuals who believe man has the potential for far greater things.
They believe that man himself will become God.
The publication, ladies and gentlemen, that I'm holding is called The Stell Letter.
The Stell Group is a group that belongs to the secret brotherhoods that worship Lucifer, and we prove that from the words of the man who ran the Stell Group, Richard Keininger.
From his own mouth, he said that the object of worship of the Stell Group, which he said was a religion, is Lucifer.
It is Lucifer, ladies and gentlemen.
Now, not too long ago, refuting me and telling you that I don't know what I'm talking about, Tom Valentine said that he left the Stell Group when he became a Christian in 1968 and has never returned since.
Carolyn, I would like for you to read the date on this Stell letter, please.
The Stell letter is from August 1973.
August 1973.
Would you look down at the bottom of the credits and tell the listening audience who is listed as the managing editor?
The editor is Tom Valentine.
So there you have it, folks.
He claimed he became a Christian and left the Stell Group in August of 1968.
This is August 1973, and it lists Tom Valentine as the editor, the editor of the Stell Letter.
The program that we aired, the interview from the Book Five-Five 2000 That was conducted, ladies and gentlemen, in 1982.
I'll say this again, Mr. Valentine.
You are a liar.
You're deceiving your listening audience, and I will not stand for the deception of the secret brotherhoods who are keeping you all confused, running around in circles, chasing your own tails to create the chaos in this country.
And to get you to all pick up guns and rise up so that you can be squashed like a gnat on somebody's arm on a hot summer day.
That's what it's all about.
We're going to do some more exposing tonight, ladies and gentlemen, because you're going
to find that this is the, really, the Ken Fawcett-Starlene Riddle Hour.
We're a man and love a woman Can't keep his mind off nothing, yeah
He'll change the world for the good things he found.
If his body can't see it, she can do no harm.
Turn his back on me, Jeffred, if he further down. When I'm down in my swamp, I'll finish every last of that. I'm a old
man with 14. He'll give my wallet back.
There's something happening in this country, ladies and gentlemen, that is getting smellier and smellier as the
days go by.
It really is beginning to stink to high heaven.
Remember I told you that there was something really wrong with Waco, Texas, and it goes much deeper and spreads much farther than any of us have even begun to conceive.
And we have one so-called investigator who was down there, in on the ground floor, so to speak, came out with one story and then recently has begun to change it and is now touting the government viewpoint He is citing government reports as the only true facts.
He has publicly attacked Linda Thompson and her tape after you heard him state on this program that there was no doubt whatsoever that what you saw in Waco the Big Lie was flames, was flames.
I want you to listen to the tape that I'm going to play very, very carefully, ladies and gentlemen.
It's the best copy that we can get.
It's tape number six of the 911 tapes, and there are two law enforcement officers talking on the telephone.
One of them, one of them is one of the hostage team members discussing events with the people inside the church known as Branch Davidian.
Listen very, very carefully because this tape is extremely revealing and it's going to knock a few people right back on their heels, ladies and gentlemen.
Now, I want you all to understand that I hate doing things like this.
I sincerely hate doing things like this, but they have to be done.
A lot of people tried to stop this broadcasting from happening tonight.
Ken Fawcett attempted to stop it.
We are not going to stop ever with delivering the truth to the American people.
Okay, okay.
Has Steve made contact with Jim?
Has Steve made contact with Jim?
He has.
He has.
Okay, good, good.
All right, let me advise Jim on this end.
Hold on.
He said they've made contact.
Okay.
Okay, good.
I was wrong about FBI.
They've got a negotiator coming out of Austin, so we'll either all get away Okay, I'm fine right now.
I've got all these folks over here.
We're getting in there, so I'll hold on to you.
If you need to take a break somewhere or something like that, you tell him, you know, if you want to take a break, you have a second, that's fine.
We can do that in a few minutes.
You shouldn't be angry about that.
You can tell him what's up.
I'm going out.
I'm going to go to the bathroom.
Let me just take some time out.
I need to go to the bathroom.
I'm going to get some rest.
We'll be right back.
What time is it?
Okay, would you rather have somebody from the FBI come down there or would you rather have me come down there?
That's the question I want to know.
You and I are talking here.
I'll make the trip myself.
Okay.
I would like to have someone here as a backup.
Okay.
If you can make it, then I'd appreciate it.
Okay, that'll work.
You know, whatever's convenient, you know, really.
What I'm looking at right now is trying to keep contact between us, that's the negotiation side, and, uh, APF.
Do you have any contact there, another phone line that you could call back over here if I get down there?
Yeah, we've seen that.
Let me double check.
Okay, thank you.
Wayne?
Wayne?
Okay, is this who you call?
Can you say something?
Okay, okay.
I'll just grab a second.
Stand by.
Okay, stand by.
We've got two phones right now, right?
I've got one in each hand.
Okay.
What I can do is I can take over this call and keep contact with ATF.
Okay.
And then when it comes for me to take over before you actually do that?
That would be wonderful.
Okay.
That would be wonderful.
I'm going to hang on here for a second.
I'm going to talk to my partner here, Starlane Riddle, okay?
Starlane?
Yeah, Starlane Riddle.
I'm going to put her on the phone with you.
I'm looking to try to get a ride over there.
Okay.
Starlane, how's it all going?
Everything wonderful.
Good.
Good.
Hang in there.
You're doing a great job.
We're hanging.
We are. We're trying to go cut your machine, so far.
Okay.
You sound pretty calm.
It does right now.
Okay.
It does right now.
Everything's clear up.
They're there for the news media, and they're worried about the chopper, so if we can get that chopper shot.
And also, Starling, if you happen to be in those chopper medevacs, Star Trek media, please let me know, so I can advise them, because this thing can be a real sticky point.
Okay.
Okay, they're still at the hospital as far as I know with the two that they took off with.
And there you have it, ladies and gentlemen.
The voice you heard was Starlene Riddle, also known as Rita Riddle, introduced by the law enforcement officer as her partner.
This tape was made, ladies and gentlemen, when she was supposed to have been inside the church known as Branch Davidian, and supposedly she did not come out until March the 21st.
It stinks.
Everything about Waco, Texas stinks, ladies and gentlemen.
And it gets stinkier and stinkier all the time and the only place that you're ever going to hear about it is right here or in our newspapers and our TV stations and our radio stations when we complete our purchase of Gannett Company Incorporated.
What's this got to do with Ken Fawcett?
Well, folks, I don't know if he started out on their side or if he ended up on the other side, but the fact is, and he claims, that his personal life is none of our business and none of your business.
And I say, when he is investigating, when he is investigating and telling the public the results of his research into what happened in Waco, Texas, during that 51-day And when he is telling us the results of that research and
we find out that Rita Riddle is on one of the 911 tapes introduced as a law enforcement
partner outside the church branch of Davidian on a day when she was supposed to have
been in that church as a member of that church and that Ken Fawcett is now sleeping with Rita
Riddle, then we've got big, big problems and folks, Ken Fawcett becomes absolutely
unbelievable and totally, 100% discredited.
So, I'm going to play a little bit of that. So, I'm going to play a little bit of that.
Your presence, Lord, brings forth to me as any love could ever be.
When I am with you, I walk slowly and slow through.
I am glad what love will do. Your drawing eyes are close, oh, and I'm glad that you were to see.
And trust me, they say that our love will grow, but I just want to tell you that they don't know.
You're in love, and you're in love.
602-333-2174.
And we want to talk about what you heard tonight.
What do you think of this?
Where is this going?
Do you know something about Waco that we don't know?
If you do, we want to hear what it is that you know.
It's getting, it's getting really, really hard.
Yes, I just heard the tape.
I didn't know what Fawcett had said, but from what I heard on that tape, this lady was definitely too clear to be heard, and was obviously outside.
What I suspect, after having heard your program, as well as seeing the tape of Linda Thompson, which was shown the very next day at our John Birch Society business man's luncheon is that I think there's more to
this thing like you say than you think.
My suspicion is that this British Davidian thing was set up for persecution by the government
as a test case for them to try out what I think they're going to try to do against us.
You think maybe it could have been something to try to get patriots to take up arms?
It could have been that one and also I think it could be to scare the patriots and prepare us for
what they're going to do to us especially in the light of what happened in Virginia
last Tuesday in the election where the Christian coalition lieutenant governor candidate was
knifed in the back by the NRA and where his people were not permitted to send out voters guides and
all kinds of interference which helped him to lose the election.
We're in big trouble, aren't we?
Absolutely.
And I wanted to also discuss one other thing with you.
Your mystery tapes.
I've been listening to them on the air while you were gone.
I do have a disagreement with you in that 200 years ago, George Washington pointed out
in a speech in 1798 that the Masonic orders that he was in were being infiltrated by the
Illuminati from France, as he based his statements on Robertson's proofs of a conspiracy.
In other words, that the original Masonic intent of charity and brotherhood was being
intercepted and destroyed by a New World Order, and I wondered if you ever looked into that.
What we've found is that the highest levels of Freemasonry has always been controlled by what's known as, quote, the Illuminati, unquote.
You have to remember that George Washington was a master Mason.
He never reached the highest levels in Freemasonry, and thus I don't believe that he really knew what Freemasonry was involved in.
But you can see what they ultimately did with George Washington.
If you go to the Capitol building and stand at the bottom and look up at the dome, you'll see a vast painting which outlines the apotheosis of George Washington.
They elevated him to the position of God.
Yeah, the father of our country, if you will.
No, this is God.
Oh, I see.
You understand what I'm saying?
I understand what you're saying.
And I would add to say this, that from having looked at the Civil War, I've seen how Jefferson Davis destroyed the South by not letting Beauregard take Washington, D.C.
and end the war right away after Manassas.
I would add to say that the South was betrayed by the signs of the Golden Circle that you were talking about, and that Hemperson's been talking about in his books.
That's correct.
Well, thank you very much.
I'll continue to listen, and I wish I could come to Atlanta, but I can't believe it.
I'll have to look into getting that stock if I can get a hold of it.
I'm a stock broker down here.
Okay.
Don't look into it.
Just do it.
I'll do it.
Okay.
Good night.
Thank you for calling.
It really bothers me.
I hope somebody out there... Good evening.
You're on the air.
Mr. Cooper?
Yes.
My name is Tom from Fort Wayne, Indiana.
Hi, Tom.
First of all, I'd like to say as a fellow Vietnam veteran, thank you for serving and welcome home.
Thank you.
Welcome home yourself.
Thank you, sir.
I started listening and studying the government in 1974 on the POW issue.
I know a friend of mine that knows you real well and he's got your way.
And I'd like to give you his name, but I won't do it over the air.
Okay.
But have you been studying and following what's been going on in Washington with the rededication of the war goddess statue and all that?
Oh yes, we have videotapes of all of it.
The relaying of the cornerstone, the goddess of liberty, which was a Roman goddess.
Yeah.
You also notice Waco.
They were burned and Crash was supposedly killed.
I have questions now whether he's really dead or not.
See, I think he may have been in on all of this, but I don't know and I'm not saying that he was, so don't go off half-cocked out there.
You know, they claimed that he said he was Jesus, which he never said.
He was 33, and they burned the building during Passover.
What do you think of that?
Well, it all adds up, because, you know, this was definitely the work of the government, so it just, you know, it just proves, you know, once again, there's more and more truth to what you say as time goes on, and it just, it proves it.
and they weren't friend of mine when they were in Washington.
They showed me all these snapshots they took of different areas.
This is random.
And there's a swastika in every one of them.
And there's no effort to clean it up.
This symbology is everywhere, isn't it?
And I got a book here called The Economic and Political History of Europe.
Yeah.
And I'm studying right now, and I'm holding back another book.
It's like a college history book.
And everything is right now is going on in Birmingham.
Uh-huh.
And everything...
And it's all Nazi.
Right.
Here's the, here's the, the stel letter again.
This is an article written by Tom Valentine.
You know, Hitler believed in Atlantis, and he had people looking for proof of Atlantis and where it was actually located, all during the time that he was ruling Germany.
This is an article written by Tom Valentine and the title of it is,
The Value of History and Legend as Evidence of Atlantis Part 3 in the Stell Letter.
We better all wake up and we better understand that somebody's got us by, you know what,
and they're leading us around in circles and up short trees and down into deep holes and
we've got to really get a handle on this and I think that the only outlet we have right
now is to buy this stock, get this media, start getting the truth that we can find out
to the vast public.
And hopefully we can do this without any bloodshed.
Tom, excuse me, I'd like to cut in and add to what you said.
I don't hear mention at all about the barbed wire that they put up on Easter Sunday all around the Branch Davidian Church and if you remember that's a Christian holiday and also it's time and a half or double time for ATF workers when they do things on that day.
And nobody shot out at them on that day, either.
Well, all these judges and these people are paid out of the International Monetary Fund.
Aren't there federal judges and, what, the BATF and the Treasury Department?
Well, we know the Treasury Department is, for sure.
And now they're thinking about making the Justice Department all under one big branch, and they're probably going to be paid by these people.
Wouldn't that be something?
Right.
I'm sorry, Mr. Cooper, are you familiar with two authors, one is Judge Griffin?
Yes.
And he wrote Descending to Slavery and the Fourth Life of the Rich which I have read.
Yes.
And also Anthony Sutton.
Yes.
We have all their books.
And his book How the Order Creates Wars and Revolutions.
And right there in the very beginning of it, like the first couple of pages, it gives a
list of the original order.
And Prescott Sheldon Bush is a member.
Yes.
The Harriman Brothers are members.
Yes.
And there's some other families like that.
I think Oppenheimer and others.
Yes.
And there's a lot of other people.
Yes.
And there's a lot of other people.
Yes.
And there's a lot of other people.
Yes.
And there's a lot of other people.
Yes.
And there's a lot of other people.
I've talked to Tom Valentine before.
Like you said, I get my information anywhere I can.
Well, you should.
You should listen to everyone.
You should read everything.
You should believe no one and nothing until you can prove it in your own research.
Well, you'll be hearing more from me and if you can take him off the air for a second, I'd like to give you this guy's name and you can talk to him because he knows you personally.
Actually, I can't do that.
You can call back.
And I'll let you go and wish you good luck.
Okay, thank you.
I'll be waiting for you to come back and make me your wife.
I'll be waiting for you to come back and make me your wife.
I'm gonna be waiting for you to come back and make me your wife.
I'm gonna be waiting for you to come back and make me your wife.
Oh, my baby loves love.
My baby loves love.
She's got what it takes and she knows how to use it.
I was lonely once and it's great we've both been alone.
I've been a man without a soul.
And I'm sad when she came my way.
My wife.
I need your care today.
Oh, baby loves love.
My baby loves love.
She's got what it takes and she knows how to use it.
Oh, baby loves love.
My baby loves love.
She's got what it takes and she knows how to use it.
She's the only one.
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Well, if you're still there, you're on the air.
I am.
Hello, good evening.
Hi Bill.
Hi.
First time caller.
Well, welcome.
Thank you.
I wanted to mention for any of your listeners that are John Birch Society members that we have a member in the John Birch Society that is a Mormon and is attempting to work his way up.
I am a John Birch Society member.
We have been widely publicizing Linda's tape at every conceivable meeting that we can Get a bunch of people to.
But everybody needs to know that we have a Mormon in our midst by the name of Vance.
That's his last name.
And he's attempting to work his way up in the John Birch Society.
And we have to be very, very careful that we don't allow him to get into any kind of power, any kind of a position of power.
Because, of course, we know what would happen if that happened.
Especially knowing what their goals are, ultimately.
That's correct.
Do you want to restate those goals?
Well, I mean, as far as I know, the Mormons would like to eventually control the world.
I mean, they're part of the elitist group, the same group that Bill's been talking about for a long time.
Right.
First they want to take over America, and then take over the world.
That's right.
And it's so easy for groups, any kind of groups, and that includes Rob Perot's group, I'm also a member of that simply because I want to keep those people focused in the right direction.
There are a lot of things that Ross Perot believes, not a lot of things, but some of the things that he believes in, for instance, like parliamentary form of government and a constitutional convention.
Those things are very bad for our country.
Dangerous.
Very dangerous.
Very bad.
But the point is that there are a lot of good, innocent people There are thousands, hundreds of thousands of people that have joined the parole movement that are thirsting for knowledge.
There's also a lot of real good people who belong to the lower rungs of Freemasonry and the other secret societies and the Mormon Church who really don't know what they're involved in.
I agree with you 100%, Bill, but my point was the reason that I and a number of other
John Birch Society members have joined in the parole movement is so that we can keep
these people focused in the right direction and educate them thoroughly as to what is
happening, what really this whole thing is all about.
And I find at the meetings that we have infiltrators, even in the parole movement, that come in
and try and sidetrack these large groups.
And I mean they are large, in little tiny cities you have anywhere from 50 to 100 people
that go to the meetings at least once a week.
And the numbers are growing by 25 to 35 a month of people that are coming into the parole
So you might want to think in terms of how you might reach out to that group because it's a tremendous group and there's so much possibility there as far as being able to educate those people and keep them going in the right direction.
But we've had an infiltrator that came in and attempted to sidetrack the group off of NAFTA and get them involved in something totally irrelevant to what's going on right now.
Something that wouldn't even be on the agenda for the county until next year.
Yeah.
And so by having people there like myself and like other people that are knowledgeable, we can keep those groups going in the right direction and eventually we can educate one heck of a lot of people here.
That's right.
You know, I'm going to make a prediction.
I'll predict that the vote for NAFTA is going to be tied, and it's going to be broken by Al Gore, who we'll vote for, and it'll pass.
God, I hope not, Bill.
I hope to God not.
I hope not, too.
But you see, this will absolve the members of Congress of guilt.
That's the way they're going to get around it.
Of course.
And there are so many of them.
I mean, look at Kennedy.
He's saying he's against NAFTA.
Is he going to change his mind at the last minute?
Remember all the ones who voted, who said that they were going to vote the other way in the last big controversial vote in Congress, and the tie was broken by a woman who had sworn to her constituents that she would never vote for it.
Right, well we have so many congressmen out here in California that are voting for NAFTA.
It's incredible.
We have, out in my area, George Brown, and we have Alfred McCandless, and we have just so many of them.
People need to be calling and writing letters every single day to their congressmen and Yes, that's very true.
for NAFTA, not just that you are going to vote against them, but that you are going
to actively campaign against them next election.
Right.
And then you have to carry it through because they get so many of those threats and then
people never do it that they don't pay any attention anymore.
Yes, that's very true.
Well Bill, I really appreciate what you are doing and God bless you and I hope that you
can stay on the air and keep going the direction that you are going because you, I think, are
waking up a lot of people.
There's so many people that don't know because they've never been exposed to the things that you're talking about.
I don't know.
Do you know of any other group besides the John Birch Society that has known about this stuff for years?
If you're talking about large group, no.
Yeah.
See, they've got tremendous research facilities.
They've got huge warehouses full.
And by the way, in case you didn't know, you can call the Johns Fudge Society back east and ask for the research department and any topic that you may want information on.
If you are a member, which it doesn't cost you much to become a member, you can request that information and they will send it to you for free.
Everything that they have in the file on that topic.
Yeah.
Well, I'd like to thank you for that bit of information, Carolyn.
Yeah, I'd just like to add, since you brought up the Constitutional Convention, that we need to work on getting our congressmen to rescind the vote of approval for a Constitutional Convention, if you are in a state where it's already passed.
Right.
There's been a lot of states that it already has been rescinded in.
We've been working very hard to make that happen and we've also been successful in a
number of states in preventing it from happening just before the vote.
Right, but that is so close to going through that it's something that we also have to keep
an eye on.
It seems like you have to keep an eye on so many fronts.
You heard what Perot said.
He said, five states for a constitutional convention?
Piece of cake.
Right.
Right.
I don't know.
That man drives me crazy because I would love to believe that he's just naive, but I know.
I would love to believe it, but I'm not dumb enough to believe it.
It's too bad.
It's too bad that we don't have a true patriot in him.
However, that's okay.
I mean, what he's doing is fine right now, and we can take over and educate the people from here.
That's true.
And let me tell you, what I'm getting from the Perot group is they don't care whether he runs in the presidential election or not.
They don't care if he drops out.
They're not going to dismantle.
They're going to keep going, and they will find a good person to run.
Good.
But they want to educate themselves between now and then so that they can make a wise choice.
Wonderful.
Wonderful.
I already have.
I should be getting the stuff in the mail here very shortly.
What I had to do was sell off some other stuff and that was the way I was able to cover the money.
So, okay.
Thank you for your call.
Nice talking to you.
Bye-bye.
Don't go.
Please stay.
If I got on my knees and I pleaded, not to go but to stay in my arms, would you walk out the door like you did once before?
Or would this time be different?
Would you stay?
Don't go.
Good evening.
You're on the air.
Good evening, you're on the air.
Did you listen to Linda Towson on the Tom Allen Show about a week ago?
No, I didn't.
Oh, okay.
She was on, and she mentioned a government report in which she observed the claim in the government report that they had used a non-flammable carrier to inject the... CS gas?
Yes, yes.
She said she observed that they claimed that non-flammable gas was carbon monoxide.
Have you communicated with her?
Oh my God.
Go ahead.
I'm not laughing at you, sir.
I realize that.
I called her and I got on the show and I told her that.
One, carbon monoxide is a flammable gas.
It's probably explosive.
Yes.
And it's also deadly poison.
Yeah.
And I cautioned her to make sure that this was nothing more than a typographical or an error on the part of the person writing the report.
If the intention of the person writing the report was benign, that is, there's simply a technical incompetence by them to take it as that, but there's even a remote possibility that that might have been intentionally put in there as a bit of government disinformation that someone like her picked that up.
Sure.
made a big deal out of it, they could point to that and use it as a point of ridicule.
Sure.
And so I just wondered if you had heard anything about that, if she communicated with you on
that or anything.
You have to remember that I just returned last night from San Francisco and I haven't
spoken to anyone except for Carolyn and a fellow Kennedy researcher who we had about
an hour's talk.
But that's it.
On the remote possibility that there's something to that, which should be pointed out to that, if they were wearing gas masks, uh, designed to filter out the particulate, uh, CS gas, um, and if they were using carbon monoxide, why, uh, carbon monoxide would go right through those filters.
That's true.
But that wouldn't account for the bullet holes and, uh, all of this other stuff that they claim that these people... Anyway, I thought, uh, you, you should be aware of this situation.
You probably have some caddy members that can, uh, Let me tell you what we see.
How many days did I sit looking for about 12 hours each day at that tape over and over and over again?
That's right.
How many days did I do that?
Let me tell you what we see.
I've sat, and Carolyn, how many days did I sit looking for about 12 hours each day at
that tape over and over and over again?
That's right.
And how many days did I do that?
More than three.
And I have examined this from every angle and other footage that we have.
We've talked to witnesses.
We had something like 48 CAGI people in Waco at the time, including Carolyn Nelson.
And we can find no evidence that they even ejected any CS gas or tear gas into that building at any time.
Yeah, a long time ago, I remember you saying you were down Downwind of it, and did not smell a thing.
Well, we did smell petroleum products.
Right, right.
We did not smell any tear gas.
So, for my point, I thought I'd bring to your attention, in case you weren't aware of it, just one more bit of information into your database on this situation.
Well, we thank you very much.
We were not aware that she had said that.
Okay, thank you.
Good night.
And the number, folks, is 602-333-2174.
Good evening.
You're on the air.
Hi, Bill.
I'm calling from Albuquerque.
I'm really interested in the way you're pursuing the religious aspect, and maybe the competition, or whatever it may be, between Quresh and the people who persecuted him.
I don't know if I was onto this, because it's something I heard you say, but having read Holy blood, holy grail, and the sequel put to it.
It reeks of it, doesn't it?
Yeah, it's the Priory of Sion, the heirs of David, and here's this upstart, you know?
Yeah, and the Koresh, and flying the Star of David above the building, and he's 33 years old, and it happened on Passover, and they burned him, which is a form of ritual sacrifice.
This is taking on incredible dimensions here, and we're really not sure where it's all leading, but we've got our suspicions.
Yeah, it's really fascinating.
I mean, I've studied the Bible on and off for years and I had some involvement with drugs and things way back in the 60s and was into all the, you know, the I Ching and the tarot cards and studied astrology and all these other philosophies and I gotta tell you, Bill, that you put it together better than anybody I've ever seen or heard.
I'm really impressed by the work you're doing, and I'm following it the best I can.
I'm going to buy some Gannett stock.
Wonderful, because that's the key.
That really is the key.
That's a great idea.
God bless you, and I'll let you go and get on to some other callers.
Thank you for calling.
You bet.
The number is 602-333-2174. Don't forget, folks, when we're not on the air, during the
rest of the hours of the day and night, this is our fax number. Good evening. You're on
the air.
Hey, Bill.
Yes.
Hey, glad to get on. I was wondering if you'd ever heard of a guy named Lee Billinger.
Doesn't ring a bell.
You're familiar with him?
Doesn't ring a bell.
He used to work on Capitol Hill. I heard him tonight on a radio program out of New Mexico
called Straight Talk with Ron Engelman. You ever hear that show?
I've heard Ron Engelman when he was in Dallas.
I haven't heard him since he's been in Albuquerque, although we could probably pick it up if we
knew what time his show was on.
It's on at 9 o'clock on KKOB out in New Mexico.
Lee Bellinger is the editor and publisher of the Pink Sheet on the left.
of.
You ever hear of that?
All this left right means nothing to me, but go ahead.
Well, anyhow, it used to be called the American Sentinel.
That I'm familiar with.
Go ahead.
Yeah, he was getting into tonight just before your show, and that's about the first 15 minutes or so of your show.
Because I was listening to him, but he was right on the money with the new National Help ID card.
And he sounded really promising.
I got his phone number and stuff.
I'm thinking about giving him a call and trying to get him on to buying some shares of stock.
Good.
Get everybody, everybody, get everybody involved.
Everybody you know, every organization you belong to.
Go down to the old folks home and get them involved.
Everybody.
Yeah, I figure he could put that in his little publication and maybe help spread the word.
Yeah.
And folks, I wasn't kidding.
Don't forget those old folks out there.
They want to be part of what's happening in the world and I can't think of a better way.
Okay, well that's basically all I had for you.
Thank you for calling.
Good night.
Bye.
Well, for the next caller, or the next couple of callers, I want to hear what you think of this tape we played tonight.
I mean, that just bowled me over when I originally heard it, and then it took a while to get our hands on the copy, but good evening.
What did you think of what you heard tonight?
Yeah, that was pretty interesting.
Are you sure that Starlene Riddle is the same as Rita Riddle?
Yes, that's her name.
Okay.
In fact, we can go back and play the original interview we did with her on the Hour of the Time and that's her name.
Okay.
That was interesting.
My question was, Ken Plaza talked about they were transmitting Morse Code by flashlight from Mount Carmel.
Yeah.
Any transcripts of what they were transmitting?
Nancy La Rosa said that she and, gosh I forgot the guy that was with her, I had deciphered that Morse code but other people said that
they hadn't and so I don't really know.
Well Ken Fawcett said he deciphered it and thought it was kind of crazy and then Rita
Riddle said they were just test messages.
Well what you heard tonight Rita Riddle wasn't even in there and Ken Fawcett is in bed with
her.
Now what are you going to believe?
Well I would really like to try to get a hold of the transcripts of what they were transmitting
from inside.
Well I would too if we could get somebody we could believe to give us one.
We did some research on Nancy La Rosa and found out that she was living in a house that
was paid for by the government.
Bye.
Well, I appreciate your show.
I enjoyed it a lot.
Thanks a lot.
Good night.
You know, I just don't know what to say about all this stuff and all these people.
It's just like everywhere we turn, somebody is running us around the flagpole.
You know, the only thing that makes any sense when I look at all this, folks, is somebody is trying to stir us into taking up arms so that they can destroy us.
That's just what it looks like to me.
I can't reach any other conclusion.
No other conclusion makes any sense.
What do you think?
Good evening.
You're on the air.
Oh, hi, Mr. Cooper.
Hello.
My maiden name is Cooper.
Well, that's a good name.
Good, honest name.
I was wondering if you could be my cousin.
I don't know.
I was wondering if you happen to know of anyone who has a copy of the radio broadcast that he did in Waco, or if you know of any way of getting it.
Who did in Waco?
Ron Engelman?
No.
Tim Poppett?
No, it escapes my memory.
The guy that got killed.
David Kresh?
Yeah.
Wasn't he on radio?
Yeah, he was.
Does anyone have a copy of that?
In fact, he was on radio with our sponsor, Craig Smith, the owner of Swiss America Trading has a radio show where he talks about investments and precious metals and Kresh used to listen to his show and it was Craig Smith Yeah, we have the tapes.
I'd like to hear it, because I'd kind of like to hear what he had to say.
Maybe we can look into it.
Yeah, I'll talk to Craig and see if we can do that.
And also, I was going to tell you, I actually heard him on national television when he said that he was a son of God.
He never said he was the son of God.
Yeah, well that's all, everybody says that.
Sure, there's nothing wrong with that.
And you get into the new age and the new upcoming religion and Freemasonry and all those things and they'll tell you that they are God.
I wanted to ask you another question too.
I'm finding out that a lot of members of the church that I have been going to, have been going to, are Masons.
And I'm wondering how they can be Masons and be Well, they can't be, you see.
So, they're just Trojan horses in your organization.
You'll find your organization beginning to become universalist.
You'll start to see them begin to adopt some of the ways of the Catholic Church.
You'll see them dropping the dogma that they have traditionally had that separates them from other religions.
And you'll see a coming together of all the religions into this new one where man is going to become God.
Yeah, they don't go around telling people.
By GCI.
Okay, thank you.
I am a first time caller and I haven't listened to your program too much.
Glad to hear you.
Glad to see you.
Thank you.
You are welcome.
Good night.
602-333-2174 is the number.
Yeah, good evening, Bill.
Good evening.
Did I hear you correctly last night say that you have... Turn off your radio.
Say again?
Turn off your radio.
Gotcha.
Did I hear you say last night you have 173,000 voting shares in hand already?
We had that... I don't have the shares.
Nobody's giving me their shares.
I have the proxy votes, yes.
Okay, great.
Absolutely.
Done.
As of Monday.
Wonderful.
The account is right in there.
Secondary topic.
Actually, we have more than that.
I haven't counted the ones we've received in the mail while I was gone yet.
Right.
Secondary topic.
LASTA.
New acronym.
LASTA.
With an L. The Lose America Fools Trade Agreement.
If you knew nothing else about this, when that grinning goon, Lee Iacucu, stood on the TV last Sunday, That's all you need to know.
Mr. Buyout?
Mr. Sell America Down the Road to Save Chrysler?
Sure.
How much more do we need to know?
The marriage between the corporation and the state.
That is, that is National Socialism.
My metaphor for this is, have you ever done any woodwork, Bill?
Just a little, not a whole lot.
I'd like to do a lot more, but I'm just a klutz with tools.
Okay, this won't be too tough.
When you sand something down, You smooth out the irregularities.
The irregularities are the high spots.
No one has ever sanded a board and brought the low spots up.
The high spots go down.
America's a high spot.
Yep.
You're right.
They go down.
You don't level the playing field without taking the high spots out.
You're right.
Yeah.
That's what America needs to know.
Take this to its simplest common denominator.
Those who have will give to those who don't have.
But nobody will see any improvement.
Mexico won't be any better off.
America won't be any better off.
Canada was smart enough to vote in a Republican government that said, we're not having any part of this.
We might have free trade with America, but Mexico?
Hello, wake up.
We don't want you.
We can't change their culture simply because we're Americans.
They'll change our culture and change it damn fast.
Yep.
That's pretty much all I had to say tonight.
Well, I wanted to get it in there.
I said a mouthful and it's all right on the money.
Okay, well, fair enough.
And here's for that.
Let's get it done.
Get the word out there.
And let's get idiots like Rush Limbaugh off the air and get the truth on the air.
Wake up America, huh?
Absolutely.
He used to have a compass and square behind him in his bookcase on his radio show until I guess somebody pointed out that they understood what it meant.
And it all disappeared.
So thanks for calling.
And ladies and gentlemen out there, good night.
God bless you all.
And Rita, what have you got to say about all this?
I want to tell all of you that I ain't doing nothing funny.
And can't do nothing for me?
You can do your business and leave mine alone.
Because as far as this man is concerned, I'm all the pleasure is mine.
I'm all the pleasure is mine.
And he's mine.
Hey ho, and he's mine.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's all I need.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's all I need.
Come out and join me.
Come be my friend.
And he's mine.
Hey ho, and he's mine.
This man was mine.
He's my every man.
I did what such a good man could do.
I got a flame, hope and nothing I do.
I got a missile, just be told me to.
My dear, my man.
I know he's mine.
The man is mine.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I got a missile, just be told me to.
I got a flame, hope and nothing I do.
Empower America.
Empower yourselves.
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do it now.
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