The Vice Presidential Debate Between Vance And Walz | The Babylon Bee Podcast
In this episode of The Babylon Bee Podcast, J.D. Vance brings a hefty dose of "toxic masculinity" to the Vice Presidential debate, while Tim Walz' wide eyes showed passion that "danger is close." Meanwhile, The Babylon Bee decided to sue California over its dumb new "deepfake" law! On the international front, Iran figured it was a good time to lob some missiles at Israel, sparking a lively debate about whether the United States can afford interventionism. Finally, don't be surprised if your friendly neighborhood Christian pastor tells you it's time for Kamala Harris and to not fight the culture war— because apparently, that's where we're at now. Use promocode PODCAST when you support The Bee and be the first to see 'January 6: The Most Deadliest Day' on October 11th: http://babylonbee.com/January6 This episode is sponsored by: Get Tax Relief With Tax Hardship Center: https://taxhardshipcenter.com/babylon-bee Go play a good board game like Deliverance: http://playdeliverance.com
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Governor Gavin Newsom signed a bill outlawing deep fake AI generated content.
You may have seen this.
He shared a video of Kamala Harris that was done with AI and said, this should be illegal.
And then he said, you know what?
I'm going to make it illegal.
I will make it illegal.
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This is fake.
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Messages coming up all over the video and subtitled all over the video.
It would ruin the humor.
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We actually released this ad about Gavin Newsom that you can watch right now.
Hi, I'm Gavin Newsom, the governor of California.
This is a message for the people of America, given in my authentically recorded non-AI voice.
Thanks to my leadership over the last several years, California has become a world leader in extremist left-wing governance.
My policies were so effective that almost 1 million people are now fleeing the state every year.
We even ran out of U-Hauls.
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Not the French laundry, though.
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Last year, I cleaned up the dangerous, messy streets of San Francisco.
because Chinese Communist President Xi was coming and I really wanted to impress him.
He's my boss after all.
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Because if you don't do that, you're a bigot and bigots shouldn't be allowed to have kids.
I've also led the way in green energy by banning all cars that don't run on electricity.
Then I banned almost all the electricity.
This is smart leadership.
On my watch, the cost of living and homelessness have skyrocketed.
Schools are failing.
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And poop has covered the sidewalks of San Francisco.
This is the positive, joyful vision we offer as Democrats.
That's why I'm enthusiastically endorsing Kamala Harris for president in 2024.
She'll do to the country everything I did in California.
Anyway, I'm California Governor Gavin Newsom, and I approve this 100% real message, which is a recording of my voice without the assistance of any AI whatsoever.
This isn't a deep fake, and you can rest assured that it isn't because I just signed an unconstitutional law outlawing deep fakes.
No one would dare violate it.
Thank you, and science bless America.
No, that was cool.
Very real.
100% real.
Yeah.
I like how similar the voice is.
Well, it's because it's real.
Similar to itself?
I don't understand.
Actually, my favorite part of the video is when he goes, no one would dare.
Yeah, because they wouldn't.
My favorite part is how he pronounces poop.
Poop on the street.
Poop, poop.
Poop on the street.
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Adam Ford.
Adam Ford.
I really miss Adam Ford.
The first one is from Gavin Newton.
Gavin Newsome.
Gavinor Newsome.
Gavinor.
I killed him.
I killed him.
All right, here's a, here's an somebody replied to our newsletter that we sent out, and they said, who the do you think you are sending me your brainwashing Nazi propaganda, you sick flowerbed.
I could put every single last one, you Nazi is in the ground where you belong.
Oh.
So this was just in reply to a newsletter?
Yeah, that just has our jokes on it.
Oh, it's well, I also, this kind of is categorized as a death threat more than just hate mail.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So we had a joke in there about Kamala letting in all the murderers.
And so I think that's why he was mad.
The murderers express lane, which I got.
Some of the murderers, I assume, are good people.
There's very good people on both sides of the immigrant murder issue.
Side note, U.S. Immigrations and Custom Enforcement admitted last week that the Biden-Harris admin let in known murderers and rapists and let them run wild.
How many?
They said more than 13,000 murderers and 15,000 rapists who are known convicts.
And that's just the ones they know about.
And in summary, they're raping everybody out here.
They're raping everybody out here.
That's a good response.
Man, it's been a long time since I've seen that.
We should watch that video right now.
I don't get copyright strike.
They're raping everybody out there.
They've probably copyrighted that by now.
That's right.
So I guess Trump said, they're not sending the best.
That's not what I'm saying.
Maybe he was right all along.
Kareen John Pierre said that the data is being misrepresented.
Okay.
Because they're reading it?
Because you're reading it out loud.
Yeah.
You're not supposed to read it.
Man, have you watched her a lot?
She is something.
Every time I close my eyes.
But only in the gross.
So gross.
Yeah, no, no.
She's something.
Like, the way that she handles Peter Doocy, their interactions are some of my favorite things on the internet.
Yeah.
It is fantastic.
It's wonderful.
I wish that, what's her name?
Trump's press secretary was still in there.
He had three.
Kaylee or?
Kaylee McEnany.
That's such a funny thing.
Her name does not sound the way it looks.
Kayla McEnany.
How come we've never interacted with her?
McEnany.
Kayleigh McNeyny.
It should be like McMc.
Let's keep saying her name.
You know, C.S. Lewis had that philosophy that came through in some of his writings where it was like everything you do affects your character.
Like, it's not just, you know, your heart change and then like your actions follow that, but it's also what you do is also feeding back in.
So I wonder if people like KJP, it's like every time they tell that lie or they have to lie for the administration.
No, no, it's not that.
Like to them, maybe it just feels like, it's my job.
I got to spend stuff.
But every time you do that, you're just like hardening your heart and becoming like a worse and worse person.
Yeah, you know, that's interesting that you say that because I used to have a very, I guess I used to compartmentalize more where I'd be like, oh, yeah, this is just work.
So it's okay.
Like there's an episode of Growing Pains with Kurt Cameron.
Was it a special, a very special episode?
Probably.
So it's when he's like, basically, he's working at the equivalent of Circuit City, selling TVs, and he was using sleazy sales tactics, like, oh, you want to get this TV.
It's so great.
Blah, blah, blah.
And then his dad comes in to buy a TV and he goes, oh, don't get that one.
It's terrible.
But you just sold it to those people.
Why would you do that?
And I used to be like, it's his job, dummy.
But now I kind of realize, no, that's you're agreeing to take on that fraudulent work that puts you in a situation where you are like sad, like electric piano comes in.
Yeah.
And he's like ashamed and they have the conversation.
Yeah.
And later on.
It's a fantastic episode.
That's why Trump would not want me as press secretary because they would say something and I'd be like, yeah, it doesn't look great.
But here's what he meant.
Or you'd say like, you know what?
Trump's wrong on this one.
I'm just, I'm not going to mince words with you.
He's wrong.
I generally think that he's the best choice for us right now in the two-party system.
But frankly, he really botched it.
He really screwed this one up, guys.
So Trump, if you want me to do that, I'll do that.
I feel like actors do this all the time where they compartmentalize their life at work.
And obviously, I mean, this is the obvious example when people are making out with each other on screen and stuff.
And it's really interesting when people decide not to do that or they try to get around it.
Yeah, separate it.
But you can't.
Great sketch idea.
Honest press secretary.
Oh, yeah.
Let's do it.
We should totally do it.
That's a great idea.
We have to make sure there's a constant disclaimer saying parody in the corner.
Flashing the whole time.
We should have a Karine Jean Pierre Comes to Jesus moment where she just kind of like, you know, guys, I'm sorry.
We'd have to get her to do that.
Yeah.
I think like every 10 seconds in the video, you cut to like a robot voice that's like, this is parody.
It's like this is audible or like.
Yeah, yeah.
And now back to the sketch.
Back to the sketch.
To the parody sketch.
All right, guys.
Oh, someone's knocking on the door.
It's the newspaper man.
Oh, hi, newspaper man.
And he's delivering a fresh copy of the Babylon Beat.
Get your papes here.
Get your paper.
Justin Nico.
Say, Tim Waltz.
So for our audio-only listeners, there is no one here.
There's no newsies in the room.
Okay.
So here's this edition of the Babylon Beat.
Our top story, school shooters distance themselves from Tim Waltz.
How interesting.
Yeah, Tim Waltz actually, last night at the debate said, I'm friends with school shooters.
That was a weird thing to say.
I love this picture of him, too.
It may be the best picture.
It's amazing.
He looked like that the whole debate.
I don't know.
He looks like a Muppet.
Did you guys see Politico's, I don't know if this is a note somewhere else, but did you guys see Politico's description of his expressions?
Yes.
And they said, like, actually, this shows vulnerability and passion.
And then they showed JD Vance and they circled his beard.
And they said, this beard is actually quite aggressive and threatening towards feminist ideas.
My goodness.
Which is fantastic.
Yeah, yeah.
They were trying to suggest that his eye popping wasn't because he was surprised or shocked.
It was because he was passionate.
And then they said something about our early man developed this as a I am close to danger.
Yes.
You have to.
You mean like opening your eyes wider?
Yeah, it could be.
Well, yeah, it's a fight or flight.
You're close to danger.
It's for sure a fight or flight.
So they're like saying that JD Vance is dangerous.
Something like that, I guess.
So he's like a little fan.
All right, we have another headline here.
Young Hezbollah recruit can't believe he's already made regional manager.
Wow.
It's a heartwarming local joy.
He's like, man.
I love how happy he is.
He's calling home.
For our audio only.
They already promoted me, guys.
Like, I'm so excited.
I must be doing such a good job.
I just got hired last week.
Got hired last week.
You're the regional manager.
Yeah.
So as Kyle was about to say, for our audio-only listeners, it's a fantastic looking college-aged Arab wearing sunglasses.
And he's just so happy standing in the Saharan desert.
He wants to soak up the sun.
He's like, guys, look, I'm the regional manager.
It's like, I'm living my best life.
Yeah, so good.
Oh, man.
It's so good.
All right.
Another headline we got here: Vegitales introduces new evil villain, Matt Squash.
That's so good.
I advocated for calling him Matt Squalsh.
I don't know if nobody else is.
Wait, why squalsh?
Because it's Walsh.
Because it's Matt Salsh.
I mean, it's Matt Squalsh.
And I know it's better to say the vegetables so it doesn't get confusing.
But every time, now I can only see Matt Squalshals.
I think it's genius.
It's a great Photoshop.
Bettina did a great job, Bettina.
Yeah.
Good stuff.
Tom the Tomato looks very uncomfortable.
Yeah.
Phil Visher.
Bob, sorry, Bob the Tomato.
That's actually, you know, his eyes are wider because he's near danger.
Yes, that's the fight.
No, it's because he's passionate.
He's passionate and near danger.
Phil Visher has been attacking the creator of Veggie Tales, for those not in the know, has been attacking Matt Walsh for his deceptive tactics.
Oh, with Am I a Racist?
Yeah, they're kind of mad about it, right?
Yeah.
On their, what is it, Christians for Kamala thing or their podcast or whatever?
I don't know what their podcast is.
I don't think their podcast is called Christians for the Holy Post.
The Holy Post.
Yeah, so Phil Visher's been talking about that.
We had an interaction with Phil Visher last year, like in February.
I promised him we wouldn't tell anybody.
Yeah.
And here we are.
Did he say?
We briefly hung out with him.
We hang out with him.
Well, here's the thing.
We had a great evening with Phil Visher.
And he saw us and he was like, you hate me.
He's like, why do you hate me?
We don't hate you.
I'm a victim.
I'm like, why do you hate me?
I was like, just stop hanging out with, you know, David French and we'll be cool.
But he's a great guy, really nice guy, but he's wrong about a lot of this stuff.
All right, it's time for Battle Box.
In America, we resolve our difference at the Battle Box.
You know, that's how we do it at the Battle Box, not with bullets.
The Battle Box.
Who in the Battle Box this week is the segment where we put two things in a box and see which one lives.
In the Battle Box this week, we're putting in JD Vance and Tim Waltz.
The debate seemed cordial and respectful.
Many people are saying so.
Yeah.
I didn't watch a second of it.
Oh.
Because I'm sorry.
I've watched a second of it.
I watched a bit of it.
I listened to a good chunk of it on the radio, actually, because it started when I was in the car.
Did you gather the kids around the giant floor radio and have your little cabby hat and pipe?
Yeah, and I say, get your Ovalteen decoder ring, kids.
Yay!
Come on, they're going to gather around the radio and listen to the debate.
Yeah.
So my kids were very, very bored in the car because I'm just like, I'm listening to the debate.
And then I get home and then I put it on TV.
They're like, okay.
It's even worse.
And then their big takeaway was JD Vance is wearing a pink tie and the other guy's the blue guy.
So they like the blue guy better.
No, I told them which one to like.
Oh, okay.
That's what I did to my kids.
Well, it's funny because they're like, which one do we like?
We like JD Vance.
He's doing a great job.
Yeah, isn't he doing great?
Well, I guess the word on the street is that it was actually pretty respectful.
And this is lowering the temperature in the political discourse with the VPs.
And everyone's been saying that, you know, for the last couple of months that, you know, JD Vance is weird.
But it seems to me like he's pretty much proven that he of these two guys is pretty normal.
The not weird guy, like, obviously.
And you put him together.
Yeah.
Tim Waltz is a real garbage muffin, but from what I understand.
But from what I've heard.
He's a real Matt Squalsh.
But from what I understand, they were at least actually arguing points.
Yeah, it was the most normal debate I've seen since maybe Bushcore.
Yeah, okay.
Since Reagan and the other guy.
I didn't see that one.
Bushcore was like my first debate.
So I was listening to playoff baseball on the radio because I have the app where I can watch the games.
But once you hit playoffs, it doesn't work anymore.
You have to have like cable.
And I'm like, I don't have cable.
I'm like, what years?
But it was kind of interesting because I'm listening to it and listening to games on the radio, which I do sometimes.
It just feels like a time machine.
Like, you remember that scene?
It was in one of the Avengers movies or maybe this is the first Captain America or whatever when he wakes up at the end of the movie.
Yeah, yeah.
And he's like listening to the game and he's like, that's not right.
Because I listened to this game on the radio.
And I remember every game I've ever listened to.
Like, or whatever.
And it's like, well, it was like a World Series game or something.
But it's like a time machine.
Like, people have been listening to baseball.
Baseball's made for radio.
It's fantastic.
You know, I haven't done it.
I haven't listened to baseball on the radio, but I mean, for a long time.
But they always have the background noise too.
There's always, in addition, like, there's always like the sound of the crowd and you can hear everything there.
And Jake Cronenworth's coming up tonight.
Right.
And he's saying he's been home.
He took a cut.
He's swinging a hot bat.
That's right.
Oh, it was a slider to the outside.
And it's heading down to the deep left wall.
He's back on the warning track and it's gone.
Oh, right.
Yeah, that's like right through the wickets of Steve Harvey.
It's really surprising because he has zero RBIs this season.
For our blind listeners, there is not an actual baseball broadcast going on.
That was an impression.
We were making that up.
Yeah.
Making that up as we went.
Oh, here's the eye popping.
Here's the thing from Politico.
It says, eye popping can sometimes be a sign of surprise.
But for Waltz, it simply revealed his emotional intensity.
So intense.
Early humans would have made such facial gestures to communicate strong emotions.
Like, dangerous close.
For Waltz, it gave extra weight to his feelings and held our gaze.
There's two things happening.
They are comparing him to an early human.
So like he's not quite as evolved as JD Vance is what they're saying.
Well, I think the other funny thing about it is how they're phrasing it, that conveying danger is close is just, oh, I need to have some emotional intensity with this.
It's like, it's such a natural thing.
Oh, no, danger's here.
That's, that's, it's, you know.
Well, you guys said it.
I think JD, it's weird that they're trying to spin it to where it's like, yeah, JD Vance was awesome, but Tim Waltz was afraid of JD Vance as a person, not like getting schooled, not getting like spanked in this debate.
Like that would be the thing that he's really afraid of.
Excited about him.
Yeah, he's really excited about the maybe the danger was inside him all along.
It's really the friends we make on the street.
I am the danger.
I am the danger.
So Vance kept doing these Jim Halpert looks to the camera.
He was being a real Jim, and it was hilarious.
I loved it.
You know, it's weird because I saw Rachel Maddow's take on it, which I almost regret that I saw this.
But she really thought that Tim Waltz won the debate.
But even Democrats are saying that he didn't win.
So I think it's insane that they can look at this debate and they can still come away with it with their massive bias.
They can't look at it objectively at all.
Yeah.
There's a Twitter account called Tamales Wins, which I'm not entirely convinced it's real.
It might be satire, but right after the debate, they posted this graphic, you know, Tim Walz wins.
Like, no, what?
It was funny.
Yeah, the official Democrat account posted that, like, winner of the debate.
And then someone immediately replied with their tweet from when Biden and Trump debated and had the same thing with Biden saying the winner of the debate, which is like he dropped out right after that.
Yeah.
It's like just clear.
That's true.
Okay, so the moderators said at the beginning they would give time to the candidates to fact check their opponents, but they started fact-checking Vance, and he became the watchman, and he began fact-checking the fact-checkers.
Are we going to watch this?
Is that what the watchman is?
I've never seen it.
Yeah, The Watchman is about Rorschach fact-checking people.
And just to clarify for our viewers, Springfield, Ohio does have a large number of Haitian migrants who have legal status, temporary protected status.
Well, Margaret, but Margaret, I think it's important because we're going to turn out of the economy.
Thank you.
Margaret, the rules were that you guys were going to fact-check.
And since you're fact-checking me, I think it's important to say what's actually going on.
So there's an application called the CBP One App, where you can go on as an illegal migrant, apply for asylum or apply for parole, and be granted legal status at the wave of a Kamala Harris open border walk.
It's not a person coming in, applying for a green card, and waiting for 10 years.
That's the limitation of illegal immigration, Margaret.
Thank you, Senator, for describing the legal process.
We have so much to get to, Senator.
We have so much to do.
Thank you, gentlemen.
We want to have.
This one app has not been on the books since 1990.
It's something that's fair enough as microphone.
Gentlemen, the audience can't hear you because your mics are high.
She's been so smug about it, too.
She's like so smug.
Oh, my gosh.
I love how she kept trying to ignore him.
I love how the other lady kept trying to interrupt him.
It's just infuriating watching these women do this.
And it just shows how ridiculous the format in the other debate was with Biden and Kamala.
They were like fact-checking him and they're responding to him.
Yeah.
And you're like, dude, what are you doing?
It's so insane.
I know.
So, yeah, other than the moderators, I mean, it was a pretty normal debate, but the moderators, they weren't as bad as the Kamala Trump debate, but they were pretty bad.
I just don't understand.
Like, that's not the format of a debate.
Like, your moderators aren't supposed to be arguing.
They don't participate.
Like, they're supposed to keep it on track and keep you on time and all that, but they're not supposed to respond.
Well, actually, this is so insane.
Facilitate.
Just to clarify, there are some actual legal Haitian immigrants.
And?
Okay.
Hang on.
Let me explain more.
Oh, yeah.
You can just say that in response to it.
That's right.
So before the mods moved on from asking Vance whether he agreed with Trump's comments one time when he said climate change was a hoax, the moderator snuck in one last comment.
The overwhelming consensus from scientists is that the earth is warming at an unprecedented rate.
So they had to sneak that in there.
Just so you know, viewers, the climate change is real.
No matter what he says, climate change is real.
Now continue.
And Vance Masterfully pivoted on this question, saying, in effect, if you want cleaner water and air and less carbon, then you want American manufacturing back because we have the cleanest economy in the world.
Why would you import stuff from China and India, China?
That's how he said it.
When they have the absolute worst record when it comes to pollution and such, you want American energy production.
And I actually really like that point because whatever you think about climate change, you talk to people that believe in climate change, people on the far left that believe in climate change.
It's like, we can debate all day.
Is it human?
Is it man-made?
And is it not?
Whatever.
Can we all just agree?
Let's move to nuclear power.
Yeah.
Can we all just agree on that?
Like, because if climate change is real, then that will help solve the problem.
Yeah.
If climate change isn't real, it still gives us very efficient energy at a very low cost that lasts forever.
And it's cool.
And it's still, I mean, clean air is still good.
And it's still nice to have clean air.
Can air regardless of climate change.
Can we all just say this?
Like, do this.
But they don't want nuclear.
They want to burn the economy down.
But they also, the people really contributing to climate change are the people that are in poverty around the world.
And so in order to get people out of poverty, you have to use fossil fuels.
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
And that's part of it.
Yeah.
And that's where there's a legitimate disagreement because they wanted to say, no, no fossil fuels for those people.
It's like, but they need to care about the environment.
The only way they're going to care about the environment is if they're not worried about whether or not they can feed their families.
Well, that's that's a good point.
That's why the only solution is nuclear fusion, which doesn't exist.
Vision.
Vision.
I watched The Saint.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
That movie's so good.
It's so good, dude.
It actually doesn't hold up at all.
Like, if you watched it recently, it's Elizabeth.
She was great.
So here's one of my favorite.
Waltz said that he was at the Tiananmen Square in Canada.
And he actually wasn't.
And so they actually asked him about that, which props to the moderators for him.
And he said, Why'd you lie about that?
I grew up in small rural Nebraska.
A town of 400, a town where you'd ride your bike with your buddies into the street.
What?
What do you, how do you get how do you get off starting with that?
And I love that Kimala keeps doing this.
I was born in a middle-class home and now they've upgraded to small towns where people ride bikes.
Yeah, so he talks for like a minute straight, doesn't answer the question.
And then he says, and I'm a knucklehead.
Yeah, I'm a knucklehead.
Yeah.
I'm a knucklehead.
They find the end.
Kudos to them.
They actually follow up and they go, to clarify the question was, and he's forced to answer it.
It's pretty great.
Yeah.
And he just says, I was mistaken, and that's what I've said.
It's like, no, that's not what you said.
You said you were there.
So who wins the battle box?
Well, Tim Waltz, obviously.
I'm going to go with Tim Waltz.
Whoa.
Well, I was going to go with him, but then he said he grew up in a small town.
You got a point.
You got a point.
Where did JD Vance grow up?
He's just like some mansion.
Oh, wait, he's a hillbilly.
Then he was, yeah, JD Vance couldn't even afford a bike.
Yeah.
I guess I'll be the only logical person here and choose JD Vance.
But I guess since you both chose Tim Walz, JD Vance is now dead.
Well, just remember that Tim Walz had to debate under duress.
He was very scared the whole time.
He was close to danger.
He was close to dangerous.
He had a fight or flight wreck mechanism.
Oh, yeah.
I actually do think he had that, though.
I think he was terrified.
Oh, yeah.
You could see it on his face.
And he had so much anxiety.
And he was overly prepared.
And he had all these talking points that he never hit.
And JD Vance was just really great.
I think my favorite part of the debate was JD Vance basically saying, Yeah, you have a hard job, Tim Walz, because, you know, you have to say, lie a bunch and say Nick Waltz is great.
I'm sorry, man.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
That's rough.
That's rough, dude.
And, you know, in spite of it all, they shook hands at the beginning.
They shook hands at the end and they talked.
They like clearly had a banter between them off the mics.
And just like one of those things where they're smiling and they're like, I hate you.
I hate your guts.
Probably.
But, you know, Kamala and Trump, they just walked away.
They didn't shake things up.
It did seem like JD Vance, he said he would support Tim Wallace if he lost.
So that was the idea.
He said he would pray for him.
If you don't win, I'll pray for you.
I'll support you.
And Tim Walz looked like shocked.
Like, oh, well, thank you.
The other interesting thing to do.
I've heard different things about you.
The media tried to paint Vance as this far-right freak.
What a weirdo.
He's like, oh, he's so weird.
And then he comes out here and he's smart, he's intelligent, colloquial-ish.
Yeah, that's a word.
You can probably say it correctly.
Well, I don't even think you would describe someone as colloquial.
So that'd be like colloquialism.
What's the word I'm looking for?
He's articulate.
He's affable.
I was going to say affable.
He's kind.
He's affable.
Yeah, he's nice.
He's affable.
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It's a great game.
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But they're fools.
Speaking of affable, Israel got hit by 181 Iranian missiles after Israel basically killed all of Hezbollah's leadership.
And it may not matter who won the battle box because World War III appears to be on the horizon.
I don't know.
I think this is my opinion of this is that Iran did the stupidest thing they could have done, which is shoot at a bunch of civilian targets, miss everybody, and wake up the IDF and say it's open season on Iran.
Like the IDF is now planning for a response.
So any kind of like nuclear, you know, program they had is not going to happen.
Like they're going to go after every military installation and energy infrastructure thing.
And they should.
And they absolutely should.
Yeah.
It's always part of the plan, though.
It's stupid.
Because they know they have all the media in their pocket where they can sit there and like, and like drop all these rockets.
And then Iran, and then Israel retaliates and it's like, oh, it's Israel.
Yeah, they retaliated.
And, you know.
Yeah, because they issued a statement after the attack and they said, oh, we have fulfilled our, you know, justice because of the recent attacks in Lebanon.
We are done.
It's all done.
And now when they retaliate, it'll be like, oh, yeah, you're starting a war now.
I may be a bit of a heretic in that I'm not always of the opinion that Israel is 100% in the right.
Like, I'm not of the belief that like we have to always, you know, Israel is the 51st state of America and we have to go defend them all the time.
Especially, I don't think we should be funding foreign wars and I don't think we should be out there intervening in these other countries most of the time.
At the same time, you look at the most insane things that the countries surrounding Israel do and it's like, clearly there's one side that's a little more on the evil side of this thing.
I don't know.
Totally.
Well, there's a difference between Arabs, Palestinians, and Islamists.
And the Islamists are the ones that are in charge in Iran.
They're in charge in Gaza and the West Bank.
And the Islamists clearly want to destroy the Jews and Israel and the state of Israel.
But that's not true for everybody in the region.
It's just the Islamists.
They happen to be in charge.
And so, I don't know.
You got a clean house.
I don't know.
I think that they're going to send Iran back to the Stone Age.
That's what I think that's going to happen.
I think Iran's already in the Stone Age.
Well, you're right.
What's before the Stone Age?
Stone Age with nuclear power.
Oh, no, they're going to send him back to Eden.
What if they send him back to the Jurassic Age?
The Jurassic Age.
And then the Jurassic period.
Oh, no.
Dinosaurs.
Now they have dinosaurs.
Well, any kind of military that Iran has, any kind of whatever, that's what they're going to go after.
And it's like primarily, I guess to clarify, like primarily the Jews just called me and said I had to recant.
But I mean, primarily, it's about America's involvement to me.
Like, I don't think we need to be sending billions of dollars.
You're not an interventionist.
Yeah.
And I sit there and I can pray for Israel and look at it and say, like, clearly they're under attack at this particular point of the conflict or whatever.
And obviously, like the October 7th stuff that happened a year ago.
It's like you can look at that and say that's evil.
Yeah, I think, you know, I kind of side with you.
I think we live in a modern society where, you know, we have, you know, fast communication.
We have alliances with other countries.
So when you have an official alliance, I think there's some sort of obligation to help out.
But I don't think we should have those alliances.
Oh, yeah, and that's fair, if we didn't have it.
I would say if Israel was under real threat and Israel is going to be destroyed if we don't intervene, I would say that's probably a good reason to intervene.
It's almost like World War II.
Like, why do we have to stop an invasion on Israel?
Well, because Israel is the only point of sanity in the entire Middle East and it's the only Jewish state.
But why do we care about the Middle East?
Well, I think we care about the people that are trying to live in a free society there.
Okay.
Don't you think?
I mean.
I think, but again, you look at a lot of the reason any of those Arab nations are even armed is because we went over there and gave them weapons.
Yeah.
You know, I agree with that too.
Yeah, we need to just kind of say Israel said, hey, United States, help us.
You know, we're about to be destroyed.
You know, Iran's going to drop a nuclear bomb on us if we don't.
But I think we also don't really need to help Israel because they're handling this.
That's what they're in.
So we just need to.
We have one other way.
Yeah, Israel's doing just fine.
Seems like Wonder Woman.
And we have that guy that's pretending to be Captain America, but he doesn't even have superpowers.
Yeah.
Yeah, he doesn't even have the Sam, whatever.
Super Sarah.
I don't know what is the what's his name?
Sam?
He's the Falcon.
The Falcon, yeah.
Falcon.
I don't remember what his name is in the thing.
But anyway, because I was seeing some of that stuff from the Disney show, and I'm like, but he doesn't have.
Did they make that a plot point in the show that he gets injected?
He doesn't have it.
No, in the show, they even say, would you take it if it was offered to you?
And he goes, no.
Okay.
And it's like, oh, okay.
And then someone else gets it.
Spoilers.
And he turns evil.
Oh, and it's the kind of like faux captain.
Yeah, he's a great actor.
But yeah, there's, I just think right now, Iran, this was a total misstep.
If they wanted to get a nuclear bomb, which everyone says that they were a year away from getting a nuclear bomb, that's not going to happen.
I think that Israel now has free reign to go in there.
But if we want to go back to, but go back in time, if you will, to a point where this is really relevant, where France was our ally in the Revolutionary War, and they came over and helped us because they hated England.
Lafayette.
And then we got independence.
And then France was like, hey, help us with our war.
And George Washington was like, we can't afford that.
We can't do that.
I'm sorry.
And it was a strain on the relationship, but it's relevant.
Ukraine, Israel needs support or want support.
We can't really help right now.
We don't have any money.
We don't have any money.
So it's like they come up to us at the gas station and we're filling up our tank.
And they're like, hey, man, hey, I just need a quarter to get the bus ride home.
Like all the buses.
And you're like, dude, you're here every day.
I know.
I know.
I know what you're doing.
Come on, hey, Ukraine.
I know you're just buying drugs.
Hey, listen, I know that.
I know you're just getting a Bud Light.
Hey, France, I know you gave us that statue, but it wasn't worth as much money as it's going to take.
So if we put our own house in order, then we can be in a position to help our allies when they need it, instead of straining everybody.
The French war is interesting because it was a really, it's a really weird war, and it was really hard to tell who the good guys were.
Because of Les Mizerab?
Mostly.
Yeah.
Because of John Bond.
Did you start at the beginning?
I don't know.
It was a strange war.
I don't know.
I don't know the first song of any of that.
The shift from the monarch.
I dream to dream.
That's the first song.
Is that right?
That's not Lemiz.
That's not Le Miz.
I don't know.
Yeah.
I dreamed a dream.
What do you think?
I have no idea of any music.
Two, four, six.
Life is enough.
Tomorrow will be full of money.
And that's when they called us Le Mizera.
I pray for the innocents and hope that God gives them the right to defend themselves in that conflict.
I'll do you one better.
I pray for the enemies also.
And for the first change.
I'll do you one better.
I'll pray for the people who are supporting the enemies and the innocents.
Okay.
I pray for the enemies of our enemies.
No, but seriously, I hope, you know, one day, one day Christ will return and there will be no more war.
And that will be wonderful.
That'll be great.
All right.
Evangelicals for Harris.
Ray Ortland on Threads, I think this is.
Or is this Blue Sky or Threads?
I think it's just Threads.
I'm sorry.
I have to interrupt really quick.
You ended on such a good note with one day Christ will return and there'll be no wars.
But the way you said it was like, there'll be no wars.
It sounded so depressing.
There'll be no wars.
It was a longing for war.
Should I try the performance again?
One day Christ will come and that day there will be no more war.
Okay, now do it again.
Imagine you just lost your dog.
Oh.
I don't like dogs.
Oh, imagine.
You're the color blue.
Go.
One day.
Okay, do you know?
Okay, so Ray Orland on threads tweeted, never Trump.
This time, Harris.
Always Jesus.
I agree with the last part.
And then David French replied.
This is the way.
This is the way.
And then Ray Orland said, I have deleted a post from earlier today because it was being misinterpreted.
I should have foreseen it.
My fault.
He's referring to that post?
I guess.
But what's misinterpreted about that?
What's misinterpreted?
Seems very clear.
You said, I'm never going to vote for True.
I've never voted for Trump.
This time I'm voting for Harris.
And I'm always supporting Jesus.
Maybe the misinterpretation is that it's just a poem.
Yeah, maybe it's not.
People thought it was a haiku.
Yeah.
It's not a good one.
And everyone's like, this isn't a haiku.
So like this.
Do you even know what a haiku is?
Like wishy-washy mainstream evangelicals sitting there saying you should vote for Harris.
And I understand people being hesitant to vote for Trump.
I get it.
And I get if that's your, the, the, you know, what God puts in your conscience.
I don't understand any Christian voting for Harris.
Yeah.
I don't understand the argument for that.
Well, and the way that these guys couch everything is if you're a Christian, you can't engage in the culture war.
Right.
And in order to do that, in order to say these things, they're engaging in the culture war.
So they're.
I mean, here's what Phil Visher said about it on the Holy Post.
He said, you cannot follow the Sermon on the Mount and engage in a culture war.
Oh, that wasn't him.
That was Pastor Mike Ayer on the podcast.
And then Wisher said there are a whole bunch of other ways that you could make a point that you disagree with DEI programs other than making fun of the people who promote them for money.
Everybody's speaking about Matt Walsh's Mount Watch.
Oh, Matt Walsh.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So then this guy, Jethani, says that, you know, the Republicans are crushing Republicans are warning you about all this bad stuff that's happening.
These are things that are being told to people.
If everything's on the line, then it justifies abandoning the way of Jesus in order to do what's necessary to save yourself and those you love.
So they're mocking this idea that we use politics to engage in the culture war.
So abandoning the ways of Jesus by doing that thing.
They're embracing Jesus by murdering children.
Well, it's just the way that they're like, we're taking the high road and not engaging in the culture war.
Vote for Camel.
Vote for Camel and Camela.
You're not above it.
You're not above it if you sit there and just say, oh, we don't engage in the culture war.
Like you are.
That's the culture war.
I don't like how conservatives are bickering amongst themselves about you need to vote for Trump.
You need to get, because you know what?
God chooses the leaders.
God's in control.
God's will is going to happen.
And I'm not saying don't vote.
I'm just saying if David French wants to throw his vote away, I don't really care.
Yeah, it doesn't matter to me either.
I just think they shouldn't be trying to influence.
If they are saying don't engage in the culture war, stop trying to influence people to engage in the culture war or engage in the culture.
Go ahead.
Throw your vote away.
Thank you.
And Matt Walsh has a good response.
You guys should go check it out.
He challenged the Holy Post guys to make something that moves the needle in the culture at all.
What part of the Sermon on the Mount requires us to surrender to evil?
I know it's different philosophies, and I know Christians fall on different sides of it, but I don't get the idea of completely judging the other side for engaging in the culture war.
And if God, I know there's people that just don't have that disposition and they don't feel called to sit there and engage in politics.
I don't, that's personally, that's my natural disposition.
I don't like talking politics.
You know, I'd rather play a board game or something.
But God sometimes calls us to do those things we're not comfortable with.
And I think it's okay if that's not your calling, but I'm not going to judge you for that.
And so for the other side to judge people that do engage in the culture war, I think that's stupid.
And then here's our Matt Schwarz.
By engaging in engaging in the culture war, by the way.
Yeah, it's like they are trying to influence the culture.
And then, of course, you guys can take another look at our Matt Squalsh article.
It's so good.
I love that.
I'm in danger.
I'm in danger.
Danger is near me.
For our audio-only listeners, Jarrett looks just like Tim Walz.
Banger of the week.
All right, here's our banger of the week.
Exploding restaurant buzzer takes out Hezbollah party of six.
Pun intended?
What's the pun?
Banger.
Oh, banger.
Yeah, that's the pun.
Gosh, that's funny.
Yeah, I intended that.
That is really funny.
And then, yeah, Iran sent a bunch of missiles at Israel, and here we are.
So there's actually an article that was published about one of Caitlin Clark's games in Indiana.
And they said, and this liberal, I don't know if this is a person of color or whatever, but this liberal reporter was like, every cheer for Caitlin felt like a threat.
Oh, interesting.
So I, yeah, I saw that headline and I was like, I don't get it.
What's happening here?
So that's interesting to know that.
This whole Caitlin Clark thing is really.
Have you guys been following it much?
Yeah, I have not.
I haven't watched any games.
I haven't watched the game either, but I've seen the clips.
And it is pretty dang good.
She is so good.
And it makes you want to watch women's basketball.
I wouldn't go that far.
I mean, just watch her.
She's great.
It is interesting.
I've seen some clips, yeah.
But I also think the racism.
I've taked every game.
I've taped every game of the season.
The freedom for them, they're just allowing these women to be totally racist against Caitlin Clark.
And it's an accepted thing in the culture of women's NBA.
And I think it's a really interesting example of, I mean, maybe this will be the end of it.
Maybe she'll go there.
She'll keep her mouth shut and everything else.
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