Alex Jones and Steve Lane dissect the Waco five-year remembrance, accusing an FBI negotiator of lying about ammunition while alleging temperatures hit 3,000 degrees. They interview Ramsey Clark on police state conspiracies involving the Trilateral Commission and Sheriff Margaret Fraser regarding a $2,031,000 surveillance helicopter base. The hosts promote the documentary "Waco Rules of Engagement," claiming federal agents used automatic weapons and breathing apparatus to kill civilians inside Mount Carmel Center, framing the event as a test for authoritarian control and impending 100% taxation. Ultimately, they argue mainstream media suppression hides evidence of state-sponsored terrorism and demand indictments against those responsible for the tragedy. [Automatically generated summary]
We have Margaret Fraser, the sheriff of Travis County, admitting that the...
That they are building a helicopter base for law enforcement.
The commissioner court lied to us two months ago.
We brought forward the documents.
I went and got the documents from the commissioner's court office.
I had the documents that they're building a $2,031,000 helicopter base under the guise of Starflight.
I brought forward that information.
They said the document was wrong.
They wrote up a lying document to give out the next week.
And ladies and gentlemen...
We have the sheriff.
They are building.
They do have infrared, which can see through your home.
There is no privacy left in this town.
They have other information.
So we have an interview with her.
We went out to Waco Remembrance five years after.
Yesterday was April 19th.
And we spoke to people like Ramsey Clark, who was Attorney General.
During the LBJ administration and worked in the Kennedy administration and the Carter administration, he's going to tell you that there's a growing police state, that the Trilateral Commission and the CFR are under the control of international crime rings.
You're going to have an attorney general.
What I would give for an attorney general like Ramsey Clark today and not Herman, Gurring and drag Janet Reno.
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Sir, what do you think about the IRS? Church area where the families were burned to death.
I'm sick and tired of hearing your lies when you machine-gunned a bunch of men, women, and children.
You got a big problem, buddy.
You sit over here.
I'm not afraid of you guys.
I'm a law-abiding citizen, and I'm sick of it.
You sit over here and you talk about how the children huddle in the corner and how the ammunition that they had is what killed them, all the rest of your garbage.
We talked to Clive Doyle, and he did not invite this gentleman there.
Clive Doyle is one of the surviving Branch Davidians.
And then lie number two is the fact that this FBI negotiator, who was there during the 51 days, sits up there and says sarcastically that, oh, Clive Doyle was the expert.
You couldn't fit 500,000 rounds of ammunition in a small room above the storage area.
This guy just sits up there and acts like Mr. Loving and Mr. Caring to the media, and it makes him want to vomit.
A real FBI agent is somebody like Frederick Whitehurst, ex-head of the FBI Crime Lab, that left because of all types of corruption.
And then we sat there and asked this bozo, I shouldn't be like that, I'm sorry, if he was so much for the Branch Davidians, how about some indictments for Bob Ricks and others that ran the siege?
And, of course, he wasn't for that.
Couldn't do that.
It's just so easy to sit in the middle and act like Mr. Sweetie Pie.
All right, I slapped that together like in 10 minutes before we went on the air.
That's why it's all bumpy and jumpy.
I think we're going to put together like a two-hour presentation of all the tape we got out there.
There's a lot of footage.
Coming up are some interviews with Attorney General Ramsey Clark.
Just a lot of other information.
Again, the producer of Waco Rules of Engagement, Mike McNulty.
And he's got a new documentary coming out.
He wouldn't say it on tape, but he and others would say it off air.
They have evidence, rock-hard evidence, that British special forces were used because half the people in the Branch Davidian Church were British.
And that's kind of how international systems work.
If you're going to kill somebody from another country, you use their people.
That's classic, if you know about CIA operations, to come in with breathing apparatus.
To go inside and machine gun the people from the inside and the outside.
We have footage of them killing people on the outside.
It was just a matter of time for something like this came out.
You know, I spoke to this gentleman after you had walked away, and he was a little bit more open with me than with you.
I think he didn't know that we were together, and he had mentioned a great many things.
One of the things that was pretty disturbing to me is he claimed, first of all, this gentleman was a hostage negotiator for the FBI. He claims to no longer work for the FBI, but I will tell you this.
As a hostage negotiator, he also claimed that 19 days after the church burned to the ground, they were allowed in, and he was part of the recovery team, recovering bodies.
In fact, he claimed to cut apart the hand of a mother.
And her child, she was holding her child's hand, and their hands had melted together.
He claimed that the temperature in that room was approximately 3,000 degrees because they found melted aluminum, which I don't know if that's an accurate temperature figure, and that the people either died from suffocating on CS gas, either suffocate or suffocation from smoke inhalation, or that they did not burn to death, but rather baked to death.
And he made that point very clear.
Beyond recognition, they were, in fact, quite intact.
They actually baked alive, if you can possibly imagine that.
Yeah, he said they found an unexploded hand grenade.
After just saying that the temperatures in there were 3,000 degrees Fahrenheit, then he goes and claims that there was an unexploded hand grenade found in there.
And as far as the half million shell casings goes, again, Alex had left at this point, there were shell casings still all over the place.
And I'm sitting here thinking, if this gentleman in fact took such an accurate count, why were there still shell casings littered about five years later?
The sole of a shoe, a boot, still there, with the imprint of someone's foot, the ball of someone's foot, where it had melted.
And he also, and this is one of the most damning things that I heard him say.
Out of all the FBI agents that were out there collecting evidence, they were sifting through the dirt with screens, and they would collect evidence, and the dirt, the...
Items that they considered to not be evidence.
They were tossing in what they called trash piles.
He said later on, one of the medical examiners was dumping his trash into the trash pile and found the spine.
And the pelvic cage of a child that had been discarded in the trash pile and that whoever it was that sifted it didn't realize that those were the bones of a human being, one of the children that died in the attack on Waco.
It's absolutely disgusting, the total lack of respect they have for human life.
Alex, worse than that, when I got home last night and I turned on the television, one of the mainstream television news magazines Were they playing anything about Oklahoma City?
Were they playing anything about Waco?
No, of course not.
They spent 17 minutes, I timed it, on a couple that rescued a moose from an icy lake.
Individuals, Clive Doyle, who I believe his hands were burned from trying to escape from the burning building.
I'm not sure about that.
I met children that survived from there, old women that survived from Waco.
I looked at headstones that memorialize dead...
Children, dead babies, dead unborn babies, and I come home to my television set, mainstream so-called professional news people, and they're worried about some goddamn moose in a stupid frozen lake.
This is way more important than babies dying, women dying, children dying, men dying, your government attacking its citizens.
And so what it comes down to is, yes, they're planning to put in thumb scanners, electronic scanning to buy and sell.
That'll be coming very, very soon for you in the future, for your best interest, of course.
But I think that the Elite should have to do it first.
I think everybody in the establishment who's criminal, I don't mean somebody that owns a business or who people think is rich, I don't mean people that raise your taxes and ship drugs into your country, they should have to have a big brand burned on their head that says murderer.
The helicopters that were purchased, were they used to helicopters or new?
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My understanding is that these are new helicopters and they're being purchased through EMS and we quite frankly have had nothing to do with what type they are.
Since their main purpose is medical, they're dictating what the helicopters look like.
Out of the last part of your term, is there any one main specific thing you'd like to accomplish or just a lot of general things?
And could you speak about those a little bit?
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Well, I have a multifaceted job.
I not only have a responsible for all the law enforcement.
I'm a mom, as you can tell.
I'm not only responsible for law enforcement in the unincorporated areas, the serving of felony warrants all over Travis County.
I have mental health deputies that go all over the county.
But I also run a 2,500 bed jail facility.
And so So this next year, we're in the process of finishing our new booking facility, and we'll be opening that.
And then we start on a new psychiatric and medical facility out at Del Valle.
So we always have something going on, and we're also trying to do some decentralization to take the officers out to the public.
So the public, instead of always sitting in downtown Austin, waiting for the public to come to us, for us to go to them.
Real quick, have you heard of the Travis County ASAP program, and would you be willing to say, Well, the ASAP program is a program that's run by the constables out of the commissioner's court.
You know, I think that the basic idea of getting kids to go to school is a good program.
I was supportive of looking at the ideas of, you know, does it make good economic sense to have somebody go out there the very first time?
And, of course, you notice that it's all for emergencies.
The key thing that she kept saying is, well, we get the helicopters, and we control them, and we're going to put infrared on them, heat sensors on them, and all the rest of this stuff, but we don't decide who buys them.
See, they put them on the bond package as Starflight, EMS, Emergency Rescue.
As I drove over here today...
I saw two green, dark green military surveillance type helicopters.
Year after year after year, I pay and I pay and I pay.
And, you know, there's no end to it.
And I, more than anyone else, I'm more interested in the sovereignty individual of America and how I can become that way and the homework and what I need to do.
It's all about education.
Learn what you can, go to the seminars, exercise what these people are telling you, and beat our...
Well, now he knows that the people that are cutting down the trees are the ones conning and controlling these wind-up toy environmentalist organizations.
So actually the thumbprinting has already been implemented and that takes place in the lobby.
That's why our drive-thru is there for our account holders only.
And our non-account holders have to take their checks into the lobby in order to cash them.
Okay, but you're not making the one-time account here get thumb scanned or fingerprinted at this time, right?
At this particular point, time no.
We're trying to hold back from doing that because we really want to inconvenience our account holders.
Depending upon, like I said, depending upon a lot of things, how security goes, how the procedure is going, then they will decide whether or not they want to move towards the medical account holders, either as I'm planning.
Mike asked me to ask people, for those of you who wanted something to do, this is one small step you can make.
We could start a grassroots effort here.
Mike is making a call tonight to have every individual.
Who's against having their thumbprint taken at the bank, their thumb scanned at the bank, fingerprints, blood, whatever it is they want next week, to stand up and say, if you're going to do this, I'm not going to use your bank.
I'm not going to bring my business here.
And if enough people cry out against this...
They will stop this thumb scanning and thumb printing at banks.
I mean, ultimately, it is money that drives these banks.
They are businesses.
It's time to stand up.
If you want to stand up in your own little way, this is a great way to do it.
I agree with Mike.
A grassroots effort like this could be very successful.
You can stand up against the new world order in your own little way, in your own little hometown, and say, I refuse to do this, or I won't do business with you if you make me do this.
If people started standing up against that, they'd send in some agent provocateur screaming, I hate thumb scanning, and he'd blow up a building with a thousand people in it.
And then everyone would say thumb scanning is wonderful.
I've showed you the documents a hundred times, Federal Register, all that jazz.
If you want to deny it, that's fine.
It's about a world taxation system.
It's about taking away your individual rights.
And people say, well, what do you have to fear?
What are you hiding?
It's an invasion of privacy.
And you can prepare yourselves.
The media's drumming up support for it, for retina scanning.
The government's already doing it.
Been doing it for 20 years.
For thumbprint and handprint identification.
For urine and blood testing to get driver's license.
Prepare yourself for new environmental taxes that are massive.
For cameras everywhere.
For K-tag chips in your car before you're able to drive or move or do anything.
They're already doing it in Kansas and other states.
Prepare yourselves.
Prepare yourselves to be tracked and numbered like in some sick machine.
And I hope you all enjoy it.
Because there'll be plenty of football games and plenty of bread and circus for you to enjoy until they institute the economic crash to consolidate the wealth because these are despots.
These are criminal individuals that are running this country and that are running this world.
They don't have to do what they're doing, but they're going to do it because they make their money out of control of civilizations, not out of production and real creation and ingenuity.
Yeah, I mean, I didn't select stuff out of here very well.
I got up here about an hour before the show, actually two hours before the show, and I just kind of slapped some cuts out of here.
We're going to put it on in its entirety a whole two hours of it.
You'll probably be able to see an hour of it Thursdays from 5 to 6 in the next few weeks during the Real News Hour.
A lot of scary information.
And you saw earlier how I griped out that FBI agent who was out there soft-soaking tags.
I just want to say one thing, Steve.
Stay tuned right here for more classics.
I just want to say one thing, Steve.
I appreciate the work you've been doing and the work everybody's been doing.
I have been working really hard on this documentary, and that's got me a little bit stressed out.
But it's so depressing when you see what's going on.
And you see people on the street that are very intelligent and come up and talk to you, or doctors or lawyers or business owners or plumbers.
They know what they're talking about and then you see those people in all the same areas of life who feel like they've reached the pinnacle because they have a few people that they can boss around and they don't care if everything's a lie.
Glass reflects light in a certain way that's just very unique.
And you know, through experience, that that's what those are.
Before we go to this video, real quick, I forgot to mention earlier that the alleged provocateur, one of the things he said was that Clive Doyle invited him there.
And we talked to Clive Doyle.
And what Clive said was, is that the gentleman had asked to be out there.
He hadn't been out there in five years since the original siege.
Clive Doyle said, I can't keep you from coming out here.
Half a million rounds of ammunition would have taken up at least a third of that room from the floor to the ceiling.
We did some volume calculations the other day.
He claimed that these half a million rounds of ammunition were stacked on 2x12 shelves and collapsed on top of the people, and that caused some of the blunt force injuries.
Basically, though, I don't care if others don't stand up against this.
I wish they would.
If they don't want to, great.
They can be slaves.
Is it time to go with the tape now?
Again, this is the Freedom Report every Monday evening from 7 to 8.30 p.m.
Here's the black helicopter you want to talk about.
Okay, sure.
Yeah, there's the helicopter.
It was military.
And it was flat green, and it was of a surveillance type, and it did have a pod of some type.
I've watched Discovery Channel enough to know it, a surveillance pod with either flare, forward infrared-looking infrared technology, or it was a zoom camera that they were taking photographs of us with to let it blow up.
I'm not exactly sure, but Steve Lane, again, was in the Air Force for how many years?
But at any rate, you can see that pod very clearly.
I don't know if you can see it very well on the film.
You can see the reflection in the film, which I was glad, because it does have a distinctive reflection.
It's kind of pinkish when you're there in person, and that's because the type of glass that these cameras sit behind, particularly if you look at them at an angle.
You know, I didn't pay attention that long because we got the footage, and then we were looking around for other people that might have had the footage as well, that sort of thing.
Well, if we're ready now, we'll go ahead and go to about 20 minutes of tape.
This is the Freedom Report every Monday night.
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Look, there's never been a good answer for that.
Jeff Jamar in the congressional hearings stated categorically that the reason why April 19th was picked was because the weather was good.
Well, if you're putting gas into a building, having a high-velocity wind operative that could dissipate the gas doesn't mean that the weather was good.
It means that it was bad.
So what did he mean, the weather was good?
Was it good for a fire?
Yeah.
It was very conducive for an arson fire.
But it wasn't very good for inserting gas that day.
So what did Jeff Tamar mean?
No one that wound up inevitably causing the death of all these people.
Who was ultimately responsible?
Agents of the FBI, agents of the federal government, and the military.
They were ultimately responsible for the deaths of all these people.
One more question.
What would you say the general public thinks is at fault?
I think the general public is in a state of confusion.
Unfortunately, yourself and the rest of the media haven't helped that much in terms of clarifying that state of confusion.
But I think that they're concerned about, yeah, who did kill the kids?
I think that the questions that are contained in the film are questions that everyone needs to answer, including yourself.
Who killed the children?
The bottom line becomes one of you have a personal obligation as a citizen.
You have a dual obligation as a reporter.
To find out what went on.
And what bothers me is that the media allows people like Buck Revell or Bob Ricks to answer questions about the issues raised in my film, and these gentlemen haven't even seen the film.
And yet they spout off like they have.
And you don't nail them for it.
You ought to.
The other thing that I find disturbing is that very few people in the media have seen the film, and yet they'll sit there and pontificate for hours about what's good or bad about it.
Well, see the film, answer the questions, and that goes for any citizen.
Well, the first film certainly raised all the right questions.
It didn't always have all of the answers, so I've spent some additional time and effort in trying to...
Get better answers to the questions.
Who shot first on February 28th?
Was there really gunfire from the helicopters?
Did the FBI shoot at the Branch Davidians on April the 19th in spite of their protestations?
Who were the people at the back of the building shooting at the Branch Davidians on April the 19th?
What was involved with the explosion on the top of the bunker?
During the course of the fire, how was the evidence handled or mishandled in the following investigation?
Questions like that.
So we get to deal with those issues and hopefully when we've dealt with them, we're in the process of making that film and I'm finding very little cooperation from people who were involved.
He was the public spokesperson that you saw at all the news conferences.
Okay, so he was the public spokesperson for the FBI. Right.
And basically, trying to get those people to cooperate now has been like pulling teeth.
They're not interested.
Well, I can appreciate why they might not be.
But the fact of the matter is, these are the same fellows that are out bad-mouthing my film, and I think it's only appropriate first that they see the film before they bad-mouth it, and then once they've had that opportunity, that they also spend some time answering the questions raised in the film, as opposed to just being critical in sort of a general, haphazard way.
Mr. McNulty, I have seen your documentary when it premiered in Austin, Texas to a packed house at the Dovey at UT, and I was ashamed that our newspaper didn't do a front cover story.
They did it in the movie section, and they said it showed troubling information, showed federal agents firing from their sniper points and actually up...
Right next to the church or what the media would call the compound.
I know some new documentation is coming out that's even worse than just the feds firing at women and children as they tried to exit the burning building through the cafeteria area.
Now is it true that some documentation is coming out, if you want to go ahead and release this, I've heard it from others, that they actually sent in hit squads?
Due to their arrogance, they ignored this powerful information, and now it's gotten pretty big and they're starting to panic?
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I don't know if panic's the right word, but certainly they've begun to pay attention where they hadn't for the past year and a half.
And ultimately...
All that tells me is these fellas have got something on their mind.
And I have contacted them recently, like Bob Ricks, and given them the opportunity to speak their piece, to state their side of the story.
And they refuse to do so.
So in my mind, all that tells me is they've got something to hide.
So if that's the case, then shame on them.
I think what went on...
The fact that it wasn't documented by the media the way it should have been probably has something to do with why you have a TV show and a radio show.
You're not exactly mainline.
But on the other hand, the birth of that type of communications is a good thing because it gives the mainline media something to think about next time they want to kowtow to the people of the Justice Department for fear of losing news sources.
So perhaps it's a good thing, and perhaps there is good that's come out of the situation at Waco.
So you have seen the inventor, the man that holds three of the patents, three of the four patents on flare technology, telling you that those are sniper points firing automatic weapons.
What do you think about that?
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I thought it was fascinating.
I thought it was a different perspective than I had heard before.
I don't know that...
I will base any definite opinion on it, but I thought it was interesting.
I thought it was a different perspective, and it taught me something I didn't know before.
Well, are you aware that our Secretary of Defense, William Cohen, just created ten regional teams to work with local law enforcement?
That is absolutely unconstitutional, and they're doing anti-terrorism training all around the country.
Are you aware that General Benton Parton, ex-head of Air Force Weapons Development, says that Oklahoma City was done with pinpoint strikes inside the building?
Right up there on the podium, here at the five-year remembrance of the slaughter here, is Ramsey Clark, ex-Attorney General of the United States of America.
And he is there telling you that we are under federal control.
The military is training with local law enforcement.
This is absolute police state.
Nazi Germany is right upon us, but this time it's going to be not racial, but environmental and socialist.
It's the real deal, ladies and gentlemen, and you can't deny it.
Clark, he was Attorney General during LBJ's administration, and he sent some very stunning information that a lot of us in the freedom movement know about, but a lot of people out there in the mainstream because of the press don't know about.
He was talking about the growing police state.
Sir, would you like to make some comments on that?
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Well, our government has become the greatest purveyor of violence on Earth, as Dr. King said it was in 1967. But today it's gone beyond all reasonable bounds.
Two range people like the School for the Americas to go into Chiapas, Mexico, and kill Mayan Indians who were starving to death.
Our NAFTA thing has driven their corn off the market because they can't compete with us and can't sell their surplus corn to make a little money to buy some water purifiers so their kids don't get sick and die from polluted water.
Here at home you see things like Waco which show that we carry over our militarism.
Right into our churches, to assault church people.
My first question is, or my first statement about this is, is you're absolutely right.
I mean, we have military training, people in black ski masks, with the MJTF, Multi-Jurisdictional Task Forces, training directly with our local law enforcement in Austin, Texas, where I'm from, and I found out that this is a nationwide movement.
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Sure it is.
And the sad part is...
You know, the cop is supposed to be our friend on the beat.
He's the one who gets the cat out of the tree and takes care of the lost kids and stops someone from burglarizing a home and stuff like that.
I've done interviews at protests and things, and the police walk up and say, stay behind the demarcation line.
And you'll hear them talking.
Watch the civilians.
They're using military terminology.
Is this dangerous?
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Of course it's dangerous.
The paramilitary concept of police is a police state, you know.
And our Constitution was created to prevent a police state.
Yet our police expenditures, our creation of the fear of crime and the belief that you can solve crime by more prisons, by the death penalty, and by beating people in the head is crazy.
It's just war with our own society.
And you see it come to a head at a peaceful church outside of Waco, Texas, Mount Carmel.
And just to talk a little bit more about the police state, and I appreciate you doing this interview, Mr. Clark.
That is the dangerous part about it.
Eisenhower, Kennedy, many others warned us about the military-industrial complex, and now since we've dominated the whole planet, they are now still selling fear, but now they're selling fear of the American people.
They're making us the enemy.
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Well, I think that's right.
Our prison population in Texas is the worst of all in many ways.
No free society tells people, do what we say or we'll kill you.
They're organizations through which they implement their power, and it's an international group that maintains power through the multinational corporations and the media and all the rest.
Well, it's hard to speak after Ramsey Clark, attorney general, You hear what he was just telling you?
There is a massive consolidation of local police departments under federal control, the Multi-Jurisdictional Task Force and the JTF-6, which is based at Fort Bliss, Texas.
They wear black ski masks.
They train in military tactics.
And they are the big gun and the long arm of the IRS and the criminal system that is running this nation.
Make no mistake, the murders of these people and these children was about one thing and one thing only.
It was about terrorism against the American people.
It was about testing and pushing the limits to see if the government could surround a group, if they could kill those people and burn it to the ground.
Waco Rules of Engagement shows the automatic weapons fire as men and women tried to exit the back of the building.
That's where most of the bodies were found, right in the edge.
Hit squads, military black ops, the same ones that destroyed Oklahoma City, just like Hitler burnt the Reichstag in 1933. I mean, where is our country when Ex-Attorney Generals of the United States of America are here telling you that Reno and the rest of them and the Republicans and the Democrats are all the same people.
I mean, it just makes my heart swell with pride that we do have people like Ramsey Clark and others and this whole crowd out here that is standing in defiance of tyranny.
And I'll take a line from that movie Braveheart.
What would you give dying in your bed all these years from now to have just once stood up in defiance of tyranny to put on the armor and to ride out on the field against the enemy?
And violence is not the way to go.
They are the ones that use violence.
They are the ones that are dangerous.
Understand that.
We've got to use information like Waco Rules of Engagement.
I mean, that documentary is so powerful because it doesn't exaggerate.
It doesn't lie.
For three hours, it lays out the information for you to see.
And where is the mainstream media editing this information out?
You have federal agents killing men, women, and children.
They came that day and opened fire.
First, helicopters came in and assaulted, and now we find out, and it's going to come out in the next documentary, and think about this, that they sent in death squads with breathing apparatus to kill those people inside because they couldn't have any witnesses of what really happened on the first day of the 51-day standoff.
So we're dealing with murder, we're dealing with terrorism against the American people, and this is nothing new in the history of the world.
Authoritarian regimes always seek to control the modes of finance, the printing of money, transportation, food production, you name it, it's all coming under federal control under the guise of environmentalism, which is nothing but a cult now.
It's very, very serious.
Somebody has got to stand up.
More people have got to stand up.
FEMA. Under Senate Resolution 21 is building hundreds of concentration camps on military bases, set up for families, areas for men, areas for women, areas for women with children, and areas for men who have families on the other side of the camp.
And by the way, they have triple the guard towers, and I have played this many times on my television show.
It's just out of control.
I have congressmen on tape, Henry B. Gonzalez and others admitting this.
Look at the world.
And then I'm going to get off here because others have a lot more to say than me.
Hitler killed 40 million.
The communists in Russia killed about 100 million.
The communist Chinese, we're not sure, 100, 200 million.
And it's still going on.
We're buying slave goods from these people.
They're moving into Long Beach Naval Base.
They're moving into the high desert of California at Victorville and Atalanto and building 20 mini-malls to bring in slave goods directly.
This is a de-industrialization of our...
And it is just sick what's happening to our country, and people have got to stand up against it if freedom is going to survive.
And the plans are there.
Make no mistake, but don't be fearful.
People that lay down.
I mean, ask yourself, how did the Germans allow Hitler to come to power?
They believed it's propaganda.
Most of the death camps were off in Poland.
Keep it away.
Keep it on military bases.
Keep it behind closed doors.
This is what's happening.
Make no mistake, and the mainstream media is going around.
Last week in Austin, a mainstream media station went out and had reporters on the street asking, where will terrorists strike next?
They're introducing this into the psychology.
They're creating a new cosmology of fear and preparing people for terrorism.
And I just want to warn you one more time.
State-sponsored terrorism is the number one brand worldwide.
Oklahoma City was terrorism.
What happened right here where I'm standing in Waco?
Back in 1993, on April 19th, with state-sponsored terrorism, it was a test to see if you'd lay down.
And I'm telling you something, they're taken back now because their propaganda and their lies worked for a while, but you see that the polls are changing.
More and more people are waking up to what's happening.
So I want to challenge you to talk to ten people a week, get them to see Waco Rules of Engagement.
I have nothing to do with this documentary, but it's so incredibly powerful.
You have got to get this and get it into congressmen's hands, your friends' hands, Judges in your local cities because this can be a revelation to the people of America, to the people that just want to be pragmatic, to the people that are just relativists and don't care as long as charity doesn't come knocking on their door.
And I'll just paraphrase this.
We've all heard the famous quotes and statements.
When they came for the Jews, They didn't come for me, so I left it alone.
When they came for the Catholics, when they came for all these different groups, I stayed there.
And finally, when they came for me, there was nobody left.
This is the real deal.
This is human history.
This is not some foggy conspiracy theory.
I have to tell you, three years ago, four years ago, I thought what happened at Waco was wrong.
But I thought, I mean, I believed a little bit of the propaganda.
I thought, well, you know, this and that.
And the more I studied this, The more I found out it's worse than even what Waco Rules of Engagement or Day 51 had to offer.
And that's why I'm glad that they're coming out with a new documentary because this is what it's going to take.
It's going to take information to the public.
Information is power.
So stop reacting and start acting and stand up against this police state or we're going into 100% taxation, 100% tyranny.
And just because it's packaged sweetly and has a nice, flashy, The exterior of the interior is barbed, wire, and pure slavery.
Thank you all for being here.
Should we play just a few minutes of the FBI guy again, or do you just want to wrap it up?
There are so many people working hard, and I'm not going to make a call for volunteers.
Get out there and do it yourself.
Do something.
Make your own newsletter.
Do whatever it takes.
And the people out there that have means, that think of themselves as part of the establishment, it's time for you to do your job out there, middle class.
It's time for you to stand up because you're being raped.
You're being abused.
The tax system is raising.
The tax brackets are expanding.
And one thing that scared me was the nightly news last night showed this FBI front man, this soft soaker, more than they showed anybody else.
And they kept saying mistakes were made.
Mistakes were made.
No mistakes were made.
Clinton wanted to flex his muscles.
He was being called impotent back in 93. They went in there and they killed those people.
They opened fire that day.
Helicopters opened fire.
They set the place on fire 51 days later, and now information is coming out that they actually went inside.
I want them to look in my eyes because I'm not exaggerating when I tell you this.
Did you hear them?
The myth.
The myth that surrounds it.
The myth of Waco.
And maybe someday a blade of truth will come about what really happened.
You see, they'll never give you the information.
Waco Rules of Engagement shows the government's own footage as they shoot those people and as the tanks drive in.
And the new documentary coming out will document...
The special forces, black ops military squads, probably the same one that blew up Oklahoma City, went inside there and shot those people from the inside and the outside.
Now we've got them shooting them from the outside.
And that FBI agent gets up there, who's a rude, surly slimeball off camera, and I'm an obnoxious freedom fighter on camera, and a nice guy off camera.
But what it comes down to is, they're lying to you.
They're placating you.
They're subverting you.
Why don't you get angry?
KVUE24, you make me sick.
You make me want to vomit.
I wish you to come out with a report about how bad they were like you have for the last five years.
It's wrong to come out now after new evidence and say, well, maybe someday we'll get some truth about the myth.
And that's how they were able to get it with a telephoto lens.
But nobody ever saw the back of the building, but thank God that the defense attorney snuck out the FLIR footage and got this in Waco Rules of Engagement, and the government is very angry.
Now, we're going to show you a quick clip one more time of me confronting the FBI agent, the soft soaker.
You see, if I come over and rob your house, but then I come over and apologize once you find out, you might forgive me.
We're not going to forgive them.
There he is.
Over there talking about how Koresh had live hand grenades.
I'm sorry.
I watched the Senate hearings.
I read the court transcripts.
Those were paperweights, sir.
He was over there acting like the good FBI agent that said there was some problems.
Then the media began to get smart-mouthed with me.
And I got so angry I didn't even have some of my information.
But I heard him over there lying, and I just had to tell him what I thought of him.
Here is that actual confrontation. - We have live hand grenade with old England recovered as well.
I'm sick and tired of hearing your lies when you machine gunned a bunch of men, women, and children.
You got a big problem, buddy.
You sit over here.
I'm not afraid of you guys.
I'm a law-abiding citizen, and I'm sick of it.
You sit over here and you talk about how the children huddled in the corner and how the ammunition that they had is what killed them, all the rest of your garbage.
Clive Doyle is one of the surviving Branch Davidians.
And then lie number two is the fact that this FBI negotiator, who was there during 51 days, sits up there.
And says sarcastically that, oh, Clive Doyle was the expert.
You couldn't fit 500,000 rounds of ammunition in a small room above the storage area.
This guy just sits up there and acts like Mr. Loving and Mr. Caring to the media, and it makes you want to vomit.
A real FBI agent is somebody like Frederick Whitehurst, ex-head of the FBI crime lab, that left because of all types of corruption.
And one more point that we need to make about this, Steve.
To everybody out there, I later asked him, but I actually messed up putting the video on there, so we'll have that for you next week or something.
I asked him, well, hey, if you're against this, how about indictments for the FBI agents and the secret black ops squads that shot the men, women, and children?
Just like they shot Randy Weaver, a pregnant woman, nursing a baby in Ruby Ridge, Idaho, in the head.
Well, they said that to you, this was all about entertainment.
They were the ones sitting there laughing.
They were the ones sitting there seemingly having a good time, standing at the very spot where 33 women and children were baked to death and suffocated.
The children didn't deserve to die, and the important point is David Koresh invited the sheriff in, and the sheriff says it on Waco Rules of Engagement, and the BETF twice.
They came and pulled up and opened fire on those people.
All right, that's the Freedom Report.
Steve, good job.
I want to thank the crew.
My documentary's going to be done in the next few days, and I'll be much more rested.
No more 14-, 15-, 16-hour days.
Of course, the Freedom Report is every Monday night.
And that is from 7 to 8.30 p.m.
My show, Exposing Corruption, is tomorrow night from 8.30 to 11 p.m.
I want to thank everybody.
And remember, the information you're being given by the mainstream press is a lie.
They want to talk about fables?
They're the ones that are selling you a fable.
They want to talk about patriots for profit?
I don't get paid $7.5 million a year like Tom Brokhoff or Peter Jennings.
I'm putting my life on the line to bring you this information, to stand up to bullies and thugs.
And there's nothing worse than a soft soaker.
I wouldn't have screamed at an FBI agent that was being honest.
Okay, guys.
I'll see you tomorrow night, 8.30, Channel 10. Thanks a lot to everybody, and thank you, Steve Lane.