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| Right here on cable channel 10 here in Austin, Texas in the Time Warner viewing area. | ||
| Tonight I'm going to play some rough clips that I haven't really had a chance to edit and smooth out for you this evening. | ||
| We went out and got this information for you. | ||
| April 19th, that was this Sunday, in Waco, Texas. | ||
| It has Ramsey Clark, who was Attorney General in LBJ's administration. | ||
| It has the producer of Waco Rules of Engagement and many other people that we're going to talk to and also an FBI or an ex-FBI agent out there soft peddling. | ||
| He was also on the news that night on KVUE 24 saying that the FBI made mistakes. | ||
| The FBI didn't make mistakes. | ||
| They did exactly what they wanted to do. | ||
| They bailed the VATF out of a botched raid, a publicity stunt that was meant to get them more funding and to make the American people more conscious of the cult-type groups here in our country. | ||
| The only problem was that the Davidians weren't cults. | ||
| They weren't breaking laws. | ||
| The local sheriff liked them. | ||
| They were well known. | ||
| That didn't stop the media and made-for-TV miniseries from making them look like a bunch of demons and lying. | ||
| Waco Rules of Engagement and other documentaries have come out, shown flare footage the FBI took themselves, them shooting the people. | ||
| So we're going to play that coming up, I think, here in about 30, 45 minutes from now. | ||
| Anthony Hilder, who was on my radio show this weekend, who's pretty big in the freedom movement and puts out his own documentaries and other information, has his own radio show, is scheduled to call in at 8.30. | ||
| So we should have him on here in just a few minutes if he's able to do that. | ||
| First of all, I have Mike Runyon. | ||
| Mike is a businessman here in town. | ||
| Mike isn't a bureaucrat, doesn't steal from people, works hard. | ||
| And Mike is an American and a patriot and a law-abiding citizen. | ||
| And he's just going to talk a little bit about what's come out even in the mainstream media about Clinton giving, now we find out in the last month, missile technology to guide nuclear missiles to the Chinese so they can now hit our country, every city in our nation. | ||
| We're also going to talk about Keith Campbell. | ||
| A man that left the Austin Police Department on good terms with a good record because he felt they were breaking the law and felt that there was corruption and discrimination and other things. | ||
| He has given up his driver's license and other things. | ||
| He's been going to court over this and over traffic tickets and things that he's disputed. | ||
| And he was put in jail with no bathroom facilities for two days and was only fed how many times, Mike? | ||
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The first day he was in, they had one TV dinner in the evening. | |
| The next day they had lunch and dinner, but this Cedar Park Jail, from what I understand, is not even an accredited jail. | ||
| It's only a holding facility. | ||
| How you doing? | ||
| I appreciate you being here. | ||
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Thanks, Alex. | |
| Yeah, Keith's a friend of mine, and it's amazing. | ||
| This whole thing, he's been fighting them. | ||
| This all started out with some tickets in Lago Vista, and he won one court. | ||
| In fact, I witnessed. | ||
| He called for a jury trial and won with four prosecutors. | ||
| The judge was denying motions. | ||
| These prosecutors were passing each other notes, and he was actually found not guilty on one charge. | ||
| He had another court date, and I don't know all the little points of law, but this guy's going by the law, using people. | ||
| They encourage everybody to use the system, and that's what Keith's doing. | ||
| And what makes him mad is he's not using attorneys. | ||
| He's being his own attorney. | ||
| And he had some point of law, and the judge denied it in order to immediate warrant for his arrest. | ||
| And Keith turned himself in that morning, and it was almost, I think this was a Wednesday morning, and they almost kept him all weekend. | ||
| There was a bunch of his friends. | ||
| So it was more than... | ||
| When you called me, he was unable to get into my radio show. | ||
| How many days was he held? | ||
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He was held two and a half days. | |
| And was fed one meal? | ||
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Well, he was fed one meal a day. | |
| And then the second day, they fed him two. | ||
| Now, that's not what concerns me. | ||
| What concerns me is when I went to jail for disorderly conduct on the thumb scanning, I was held in a holding cell with no urinal. | ||
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In Cedar Park Jail, they don't even have facilities. | |
| There's a biohazard. | ||
| Don't tell anybody out there, folks. | ||
| There's a biohazard in Cedar Park Jail right now. | ||
| It should be investigated. | ||
| Well, this is the thing that I noticed. | ||
| The DPS was very professional. | ||
| Once Mike Cox, the public information person, pretty much gave the order for me to go to jail. | ||
| And we were out there protesting, and I was taken to jail. | ||
| And I wanted to be taken to jail. | ||
| I wasn't violent, I didn't use profanity, but I did stand up and preach to them for about 20 minutes, and they took me to jail. | ||
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Most of you have seen the footage of this. | |
| But the scary part about it is, is once I got there, most of the person that's fingerprinted me was nice, and Mr. Ard was nice, but when I asked to use the restroom after, I don't want to talk like a whining baby here, after three and a half hours, and I've been out all day, by the way, hadn't used, you know, a bathroom since that morning. | ||
| I needed to urinate. | ||
| I was told to get away from the door because the holding tank I was being held in had a grate on the door. | ||
| It had a television with plexiglass in front of it, which I wasn't watching. | ||
| Three telephones, which is fine. | ||
| And no bathroom with loogies and urine in the corner. | ||
| It was very gross. | ||
| Now you're telling me, and I know Keith Campbell, he's a very stoic, has a beautiful wife, young children, he's been on my radio show. | ||
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Law-abiding citizen, and all this guy was doing was using their system. | |
| Now you're telling me people, and I'm going to get him on as soon as I can, that people were defecating on the floor and urinating on the floor? | ||
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That's right. | |
| Cedar Park Jail. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| So in the Cedar Park Jail, people are... | ||
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And it's not, he should have been taken to county. | |
| This is, I mean, and I've got this from a law enforcement officer, and I won't say what county, but he knows Cedar Park Jail well. | ||
| And the other thing is, the Lago Vista police were real nice, and they were talking to him to and from, and were basically telling him that this was out of their hands, that they didn't appreciate how this was going either. | ||
| But he's got the judge and some... | ||
| Now, wait a minute. | ||
| Wait a minute. | ||
| If it's out of their hands and they don't appreciate it... | ||
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Well, they're following orders. | |
| Well, we need police to pick it. | ||
| We need people to put their jobs on the line. | ||
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See, that's what Keith did. | |
| I'm sick of that. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| I'm sick of these cowards. | ||
| I'm sick of people that say, oh, this is wrong. | ||
| I mean, I've seen Keith. | ||
| He's a Christian. | ||
| And he's not one of these Bible thumpers. | ||
| He doesn't even talk about it. | ||
| But, you know, he's a handsome man. | ||
| He's an intelligent man. | ||
| I've met with him. | ||
| Probably ten times. | ||
| I know him well. | ||
| He has a beautiful life and nice kids. | ||
| And here's this guy. | ||
| Leaves the police department because of corruption. | ||
| Leaves on good record. | ||
| He just left. | ||
| Gets rid of his social security number and his driver's license. | ||
| Fights it in court. | ||
| And is sent for two and a half days. | ||
| Now, you're serious. | ||
| He said people are defecating on the ground. | ||
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No, he'll tell you. | |
| He'll tell you. | ||
| It was... | ||
| It even gets worse than that. | ||
| There's some kind of an old deactivated shower that all the inmates spit. | ||
| I mean, it's terrible. | ||
| It's a wonder people aren't coming out of there with TB. Well, with cholera. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Cedar Park's an interesting deal. | ||
| There's a lot of drug dealing going on. | ||
| Well, I've talked to people. | ||
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There's a lot of teams not even trained by Texas law enforcement, whatever that is, that they've got to have accreditation. | |
| He said the Cedar Park Police were rude. | ||
| It was a whole different deal, a whole different mindset than at Lago Vista. | ||
| Anyway, he's out with the help of some friends. | ||
| Another friend of his put up. | ||
| I just want to say something. | ||
| We really appreciate the use of access television, but if that keeps up for a few more minutes, I don't want to bug Bob. | ||
| It's not Bob's fault, but Tom Warner's got a lot of cables strung, a lot of problems. | ||
| Oh, there. | ||
| It just went away. | ||
| Well, if it keeps up for too long... | ||
| Let's request to switch the router and get that fixed. | ||
| Looks like it may be fixed now, thank God. | ||
| But anyways, back to this... | ||
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What about if you refresh our memories and tell us what exactly started all of this? | |
| How he got involved and how he got arrested? | ||
| Yeah, go ahead. | ||
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Well, he'd had... | |
| I don't know exactly. | ||
| I mean, he'd had some tickets out there, and instead of paying them... | ||
| And this is another thing. | ||
| He even had the attorney, the prosecutor out there calling him at home saying, just pay it. | ||
| You know, we don't want people to start fighting this. | ||
| It's a domino effect. | ||
| The prosecutor told him it's a domino effect. | ||
| Is there traffic tickets? | ||
| For traffic. | ||
| They want people just to lay down and pay. | ||
| Yes, and he was also having no driver's license tickets, correct? | ||
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I think he still has a license. | |
| It was a no inspection. | ||
| No license, something like that. | ||
| And the one he beat was a run on the stop sign, which he did not run the stop sign, and he had his whole family in the car. | ||
| I mean, it's a minor traffic. | ||
| Basically, was he guilty of it or not? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Well, look, here's the point that we have to make here, and that is that... | ||
| The point is, is what we're hearing is true, and I'm sure it is. | ||
| You heard this from Keith? | ||
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Oh, I was in contact with him, his wife. | |
| I wasn't the one that put up the bail, but I helped get him out of jail. | ||
| I mean, think about this, folks. | ||
| And it's been going on a long time. | ||
| Even people that fail to appear, I mean, there's people sitting in jail on traffic stuff with murderers, rapists. | ||
| Burglars. | ||
| I mean, it's ridiculous. | ||
| Maybe they ought to do a deal on traffic. | ||
| Well, they're talking about this domino effect. | ||
| The system... | ||
| They don't want you fighting. | ||
| The system engages in traffic tickets and things, which some of them are good, by the way. | ||
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True. | |
| But they engage those revenue generation for money. | ||
| And if you fight it, it's bad. | ||
| And I heard on the news, I don't know if it's true, because it came from the news, but that in New York, something like... | ||
| I don't want to be wrong here. | ||
| Something like... | ||
| 30-something percent of people contest their tickets and like 80% win or something. | ||
| That's just from memory. | ||
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What really makes them mad is when you represent yourself. | |
| Because that cuts out the attorneys. | ||
| And then also, you know, they have certain little protocol in court. | ||
| And I witnessed this deal where every motion he made, the judge denied. | ||
| Every time the prosecutor objected to Keith's questioning of a witness, he was overruled. | ||
| And he beat four legal eagles. | ||
| And it was amazing. | ||
| And he was innocent on that running the stop sign deal. | ||
| The traffic stuff's minor, but putting people in non-up-to-standard jails, things like that... | ||
| Now, wait a minute. | ||
| I know Keith. | ||
| I mean, I got him on my radio show to talk about police corruption here in town. | ||
| We knew law enforcement had come forward about drug dealing and things, but he really wouldn't say anything that he hadn't proven. | ||
| He just got on. | ||
| It was actually pretty bland. | ||
| I mean, this guy is pretty bland, to tell you the truth. | ||
| He just goes according to what he thinks is right. | ||
| And you're telling me he told you on the telephone that there were people who were defecating on the floor? | ||
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Right. | |
| No, it's... | ||
| It's exactly... | ||
| He told me in person. | ||
| He told me about it after he got out. | ||
| One of the... | ||
| Like the drunk tank does not have a restroom. | ||
| It doesn't have a urinal or whatever. | ||
| They just... | ||
| And they come in and hose it out. | ||
| Well, that was the funny part. | ||
| Whenever I was in the Austin... | ||
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This is Cedar Park now. | |
| Yeah, well, I understand. | ||
| But when I was in the Austin jail, they're all pretty professional except for this one short redhead guy. | ||
| And I was just put in there. | ||
| And that's about three hours, right before I got out, I didn't know when I was getting out. | ||
| They didn't tell me. | ||
| I came in, I knocked, and I was like, great. | ||
| And I said, man, use the restroom. | ||
| And he said, get away from that door. | ||
| So I went and sat down. | ||
| It was no big deal. | ||
| Held it for another 30 minutes and then got out. | ||
| But that's the point. | ||
| This is in Austin. | ||
| That place was nasty, I'm telling you. | ||
| Which is, you know, which I guess is okay. | ||
| But to have for two and a half days in a room full of feces. | ||
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You know, it's like Gordon Liddy talks about these prison guards. | |
| You know, the average burglar or armed robber goes for a couple years. | ||
| These guards go for their, they work there their whole life. | ||
| I mean, I don't know. | ||
| That's a whole other deal. | ||
| Somebody wanting to be a guard or work in the jail. | ||
| I guess they've got to work in the jail before they can go out on patrol or something like that. | ||
| Well, it's kind of a power trip for a lot of them, I imagine. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But anyway, I mean, it's disgusting what happened. | ||
| I mean, the traffic stuff's minor. | ||
| Well, I'm going to try to get Keith on it. | ||
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But the jail standards, yeah, you can get it from the horse's mouth, exactly. | |
| Did Anthony Hilder call in? | ||
| I don't believe so yet, but we'll keep monitoring the phones. | ||
| Yeah, I wish I could. | ||
| He called in on time on my radio show. | ||
| Maybe he's busy, or maybe I didn't give him the right number or something. | ||
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By the way, Alex, you set a new standard, and more people need to... | |
| Take a cue from Alex on how to talk to the FBI. Watching your show last night, you put that guy in his place. | ||
| I'm tired of these guys sitting there lying. | ||
| For a lot of people that see the tape, you know, video cameras aren't like real life. | ||
| Mike was out there, Mike Hanson and Steve Lane and other people and a bunch of other, Attorney Generals and Mike McNulty, the producer of Waco Rules Engagement. | ||
| I've gotten through speaking and all this other stuff, a lot of people out there. | ||
| Mike goes, come on, the bus is leaving because we chartered a bus to go down there. | ||
| I wish you could have been able to go on. | ||
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I'd like to. | |
| But to make a long story short, I wasn't even looking for this FBI agent. | ||
| I've seen you speak up there and say some things like, he was real two-faced, and I saw him saying, we made mistakes, blah, blah, on the podium. | ||
| Then I, as we're walking out about 300 yards to the actual place where the church was burned, the compound of people out there that have heard in the media, I was walking out there, and I saw, like, all the reporters around this one guy. | ||
| And reporters would come up and talk to me and stuff, too. | ||
| It wasn't like I was, you know, getting mad at him with all these reporters around if somebody said that to me or something. | ||
| And I walked out there. | ||
| I didn't really know who he was. | ||
| So I got up close, and right as I started listening, we had been getting other news conferences, and we're going to put on all two hours of it sometime. | ||
| And I was going to put on one of Hilder's tapes this week, but I think I'm going to play it on replay instead because we didn't get this information out. | ||
| But to make a long story short, you see me on the tape listening. | ||
| Mike has just a second of it. | ||
| And I was listening to this guy as we walk up and he was going, yes, mistakes were made. | ||
| And that's the part that was on the news, by the way, here last night that I saw. | ||
| Yes, mistakes were made. | ||
| But, or actually Sunday night. | ||
| Mistakes were made, but Koresh had unexploded hand grenades. | ||
| And this is what killed the children and all this other stuff. | ||
| And I blew up because I know the facts that came out and sent a hearing and in the Davidians trials, those were paper weights that you can buy at any Army-Navy store. | ||
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No, they sat there and destroyed the crime scene as the place was finally burning down. | |
| They were bulldozing more stuff into the burning embers. | ||
| And then also, if Koresh really had machine guns, why don't they break those guns that they've got in the vault over here at the Texas Rangers? | ||
| Why don't they break those guns out and let somebody X-ray them? | ||
| Just like Oklahoma City. | ||
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It's the whole thing. | |
| I'll tell you, back to the FBI. These guys will look right at you. | ||
| Some acquaintances of mine put these guys on the spot about the urban training in Houston last year. | ||
| And the head, the head of the Domestic Terror Division, Looked right at my friend and told him that he didn't know anything about it. | ||
| I mean, you know, they're professional liars. | ||
| That's what they are. | ||
| Well, because you're a criminal. | ||
| They've got to lie to you. | ||
| See, usually they were trained for organized crime and things, and they think of you as organized crime. | ||
| They don't understand. | ||
| The people that pull their strings are organized crime. | ||
| It's a job to them. | ||
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It's a job and a retirement. | |
| How about this lawsuit against the pro-lifers from the abortion clinics that put pro-lifers in the... | ||
| Look how they use their little RICO statutes against people protesting abortion. | ||
| Exactly, yeah. | ||
| Well, number one, it's such a hot button. | ||
| The establishment doesn't care about abortions. | ||
| They don't care how many kids are killed. | ||
| And that's why I don't get into it because I refuse to play their game. | ||
| It's absolutely true. | ||
| If you protest outside an abortion clinic, if they want, they can put you in jail for 40 years. | ||
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You're a monster and a racketeer. | |
| Yeah, for exercising your First Amendment rights, free speech, and assembly. | ||
| This is my cousin in the control room who runs the show with Andy. | ||
| Now, we first need to say, Andy, you are pro-choice, correct? | ||
| Uh, Ann Buckley? | ||
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Uh, yeah. | |
| I'd have to say I lean. | ||
| I don't want to go pro-choice. | ||
| But you still, at the same time, see the facts of the matter. | ||
| You don't need police breaking people's arms like we saw playing on Access last week that I played. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| They are breaking women's arms. | ||
| They are spraying mason babies' faces. | ||
| They are knocking priests' teeth out because they stand on the street corner. | ||
| This has been going on since 1989. You hadn't had any abortion bombings. | ||
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I wouldn't want... | |
| Hold on. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| Let me put it this way. | ||
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I wouldn't want the KJK to be treated like that. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, let's... | ||
| Much less some Catholic priests who... | ||
| Who just is out there? | ||
| Or some woman or some man. | ||
| I mean, I've played the footage of them breaking people's arms. | ||
| The man or the woman's on the ground. | ||
| They just take their arm with nunchucks and just break both their arms. | ||
| Just break them. | ||
| One arm's going this direction. | ||
| The other's going that direction. | ||
| Hordes of people screaming with rainbow shirts on. | ||
| Screaming and spitting on them in crowds. | ||
| These people aren't loving. | ||
| These people aren't caring. | ||
| And all I'm saying is I'm not talking about abortion, I'm talking about police. | ||
| In Jacksonville, in L.A. County, in California. | ||
| I'm talking about people breaking people's arms. | ||
| That's what I'm talking about. | ||
| So this is what's going on in our country in the south and out west and up north. | ||
| It's happening everywhere. | ||
| And as long as you put a stamp of its loving on it, nobody seems to care. | ||
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Well, I read in USA Today that even the author of the bill itself, which I think was passed in the 40s or the 20s, right? | |
| Early 20s, I think. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
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The racketeering law. | |
| Anyway, the author of it, he wrote it, and now he's a tenured professor at some place, he says that it's a complete distortion of the law. | ||
| Yeah, it is. | ||
| Do you want to go ahead and take some calls? | ||
| Let's go ahead and go to a caller. | ||
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Sure, we're going to have to hang out and check one better, Keith. | |
| Keith, you're on the air. | ||
| What's going on, Keith? | ||
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Hello? | |
| Hi, can you hear us, Keith? | ||
| Guys, bring me the phone system. | ||
| I'll run it. | ||
| We always have it. | ||
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Okay, I'll put another caller in here. | |
| Hello, caller. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
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Hello? | |
| So, number one, you have to... | ||
| Just bring me the phone box in here and I'll run it, and we won't have a problem. | ||
| I'm not saying y'all don't know how to run it, but we always have this when y'all run the phones. | ||
| It's real simple. | ||
| You gotta hit the phone real fast. | ||
| Bam bam. | ||
| Bam bam. | ||
| It's not their fault. | ||
| They never run the phones, and I'll stay there in the night. | ||
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Hello, young man. | |
| Like I said, guys, bring me the phone box, please. | ||
| You're saying the phone systems aren't working? | ||
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Yes. | |
| Go ahead and continue your conversation and we'll fix this again. | ||
| Okay, I would like to continue it. | ||
| Coming up in a couple minutes, we're going to show what went on in Waker Airstand. | ||
| Again, I had two hours of footage. | ||
| I just randomly slashed out some cuts of some information. | ||
| When I get a chance, I'll condense it down and edit it out and get the good stuff out of it. | ||
| See, I'm honest here. | ||
| Most of you look at the media and don't think that any of it... | ||
| It has been edited. | ||
| But I'll assure you that the media has completely edited the information you see. | ||
| In fact, perhaps later we'll show you the 24 newscasts from Sunday night. | ||
| What do they call it? | ||
| The Fables? | ||
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The Myths. | |
| Oh, and it's amazing when you put those reporterettes on the spot and they don't want to have an opinion on anything. | ||
| And then you hit that one with Oklahoma City information and it's like, whoa, I've never heard that. | ||
| You know, the information's out there, folks. | ||
| You can listen to the alleged news or you can dig Media Bypass, New American, Free American. | ||
| Shortwave, Wigglesworth, Alex has had General Parton. | ||
| I mean, the information's out there. | ||
| If you believe that McVeigh and Nichols were the only ones involved in Oklahoma City, you'd probably believe in Easter Bunny and McBerry and all nine yards. | ||
| Well, the important point is, and I've run this documentary a dozen times. | ||
| I'm thinking about running it tonight, but I don't think we have time. | ||
| I'll put it on replay. | ||
| Cover up in Oklahoma. | ||
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Bringing out bombs, unexploded bombs, evacuated the site three times. | |
| A lot of people bled to death because they kept evacuating the scene. | ||
| That was so the government could get its own bombs out. | ||
| But what they show is, they show Time Magazine. | ||
| Time Magazine had to show you an artist's illustration of the crater. | ||
| There was no crater. | ||
| Newsweek showed an artist, an FBI artist's rendering. | ||
| And then it shows that right after the bombing, there is no crater. | ||
| There's heaps of rubble. | ||
| There were pieces of a building across the street on top of other buildings. | ||
| That building blew out. | ||
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The building blew out, and then the same deal, they destroyed the crime scene. | |
| General Parton wanted to get in there and get some independent analysts in there, and they tore it down, and they buried it out in different landfills, and part of it was buried on Tinker Air Force Base with a 24-hour guard. | ||
| Well, yes, it was buried on Tinker Air Force Base. | ||
| It was also buried at the landfill, and they had a guard out there, and they tore it down. | ||
| And that's just like Waco. | ||
| They actually tore up the actual foundation. | ||
| There's no reason, when a wooden building burns down, to then take bulldozers and break up... | ||
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Like I say, as it was burning, they were pushing it into the fire. | |
| It was just like a campfire to them. | ||
| And then they raised their little flag. | ||
| ATF raised their flag. | ||
| And this even came out in the Senate. | ||
| They asked them, Senator Spector and others said, why did you... | ||
| Hold back the fire trucks even after it had... | ||
| They didn't call a fire truck for 22 minutes. | ||
| Then they held the fire trucks for 20 minutes. | ||
| Three miles back while they busily bulldozed it. | ||
| Heaps of rubble back in. | ||
| Because... | ||
| And then they have Tarrant County Coroner says that one body would be totally burnt with gasoline all over it. | ||
| You know, gasoline residue. | ||
| The next body wouldn't even be burnt. | ||
| And the body was all burnt by gasoline because it hadn't burnt good enough in the fire. | ||
| That body would have a couple bullet holes in the head. | ||
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You know, Agent Deffenbaugh, Danny Deffenbaugh of Dallas, one of his statements to a meeting with some militia leaders a couple weeks ago was, get over Waco. | |
| Well, people would get over Waco when somebody's brought to justice for all the laws, their own federal laws that were broken. | ||
| That's when people would get over. | ||
| Well, that's one thing that I didn't have time because Mike's Freedom Report came on. | ||
| A lot faster yesterday. | ||
| And that was the simple fact of... | ||
| I asked him after he was saying all this, he said, well, I'm on your side. | ||
| Of course, he was sitting there placating us. | ||
| And I said, sir, I said, well, then why aren't you calling for indictments of Bob Ricks and others? | ||
| You know, the FBI spokesperson and the other guys. | ||
| And he... | ||
| He said, no, I'm not. | ||
| And he said, I've obsessed you. | ||
| Again, I want to thank my crew. | ||
| Every show, I apologize to them for griping and stuff. | ||
| And then they said, we're not worried, Alex. | ||
| We know how a show is. | ||
| You're not griping at us. | ||
| But again, I want to thank them. | ||
| Because I was sitting outside drinking a Coca-Cola 10 minutes before the show, not even really worrying about this because I'm so tired right now. | ||
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Yeah, they're doing a good job. | |
| Alex, don't worry about us. | ||
| You need to thank your sponsor, though. | ||
| Hey, let's thank the sponsor. | ||
| 98.9 KJFK FM Radio. | ||
| And 98.9 KJFK is supporting free speech in Austin, Texas. | ||
| And is that USA? That's correct. | ||
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That stands for United States of America. | |
| Well, let's cross the room. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| We do want to thank 98.9 KJFK All Talk Radio. | ||
| And I am a host on 98.9 KJOK FM radio every Saturday evening from 7 to 11 p.m. | ||
| But I believe this weekend King Norris is in town, so my show starts early and ends early. | ||
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You get more news on Alex's show than all the evening news combined for the whole week. | |
| You'll also get a lot of ranting and raving. | ||
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It's all right. | |
| But we need that. | ||
| Well, see, the public's been trained on bread and circus, so I've got to give them a little of that. | ||
| If you're seeing the real Alex right now, I personally, you want to be slaves, I feel sorry for you. | ||
| You're dragging me down with you, but go ahead. | ||
| Alright, let's go to some calls. | ||
| Hello, you're on the air. | ||
| Yes, caller. | ||
| What's going on? | ||
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Hmm. | |
| I'm not sure it's the exact same problem we're having. | ||
| It's not coming through the box, so... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Hello, you're on the air, caller. | ||
| Maybe you can go ask Bob to look at it? | ||
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Yeah, certainly. | |
| We'll try that, definitely. | ||
| I'll put this guy on hold. | ||
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Go ahead and continue. | |
| We're having a lot of fun tonight. | ||
| That's because I didn't get in here, I guess, and hook stuff up properly. | ||
| Let's go ahead and talk about China, Mike. | ||
| Let's go ahead and talk about... | ||
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Less than a year and a half ago when they were doing exercises in the Taiwan Straits, firing missiles over real close to Taiwan. | |
| China made the statement that... | ||
| And then we sent our fleet in there. | ||
| They made the statement that... | ||
| What do we value more? | ||
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Well, the United States won't do anything because they value L.A. more. | |
| I mean, they're still communists. | ||
| And we've got all this little trade and all that going on. | ||
| Wait, wait, wait. | ||
| Let's stop using their semantic terms. | ||
| They call themselves communists. | ||
| That is a pseudo-political term for frontmen of the CFR, the Trilateral Commission. | ||
| You're going to see Ramsey Clark, former Attorney General. | ||
| And in three administrations, I'm telling you about the Trilateral Commission in just a few minutes, my friends. | ||
| They are murdering people that have killed. | ||
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They're harvesting organs from prisoners. | |
| They're killing children, kids. | ||
| And then here, our president has given them, he signed an executive order, Loral and Hughes Aerospace. | ||
| They had a misfire of a missile here about a year ago, so Hughes and Laurel have sent technicians over there to help them straighten that out. | ||
| And then once the Justice Department started investigating it, our president signed an executive order saying it was okay. | ||
| I mean, it's high treason. | ||
| It goes on and on. | ||
| Ten Fridays ago, that was even in the New York Times opinion page. | ||
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We've got Charlie Tree, John Wong. | |
| Just forget about all the Paula Jones and all that. | ||
| Just think about all the bodies in Arkansas. | ||
| Troopergate. | ||
| We've got FBI. They still won't tell us who hired Craig Livingston. | ||
| Travelgate. | ||
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You've got all these things. | |
| Fostergate. | ||
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- Vince Foster, it's amazing. | |
| But they keep us all, you know, think about the high level judges, prosecutors, all the people that have to, Secret Service, they know what's going on. | ||
| And everybody's just winking. | ||
| And this guy's just, you know, going around What it comes down to is a lot of people are watching this show right now, and we're doing the best job we can to bring in this information, and again, I want to thank Time Warner for fixing the picture. | ||
| And we're having some problems and things. | ||
| This isn't a $100 million facility like an ABC studio. | ||
| We don't have teleprompters. | ||
| I say this every show. | ||
| If you want Flash, if you want somebody that's got a reason to lie to you, there's plenty of that out there. | ||
| There's plenty of establishment bills. | ||
| And they'll give you five or six different angles, and there's this group and that group, but they're all front groups. | ||
| It's insanity to me to think that President Clinton, or really puppet Clinton and his controllers, Are so Malthusian, so insane, that they would allow missile guidance systems. | ||
| You see, the Chinese have had intercontinental ballistic missiles that could hit our country. | ||
| The only problem for 15, 20 years. | ||
| The only problem is they didn't have guidance systems that could pinpoint, that could even get to our country. | ||
| The missile would lose control and crash. | ||
| Well, the problem now is, as your president, And you just heard the name of the corporations. | ||
| Tell them one more time. | ||
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Laurel and Hughes. | |
| I'm not sure if it's Hughes Aerospace or some division. | ||
| Yes, these are people that do contract work for NASA. This was in the New York Times, but they told you, you know, Clinton couldn't help it and he's a good guy. | ||
| What does that do? | ||
| It desensitizes you. | ||
| Well, the president can give nuclear weapons to people that just threatened a year and a half ago to blow Los Angeles off the map. | ||
| We all just giggle. | ||
| What type of people are in power? | ||
| Well, you see, they have giant bomb shelters, huge underground cities built out in Arizona. | ||
| This has even been on Discovery Channel. | ||
| They're going to go there. | ||
| It's not a big deal. | ||
| They don't mind. | ||
| It would give them a fascist state, an excuse to have a limited nuclear war. | ||
| They would love nothing more than to blow China off the map. | ||
| And they're sucking China in like we suck Japan in. | ||
| See, we had broken Japan's purple code in 1938. | ||
| We knew that in 1941 that a task force was steaming towards Pearl Harbor to attack us. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| That's been in the mainstream media. | ||
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And Churchill tipped off Rosemont. | |
| That'll wake you up in the morning. | ||
| Great, the phones are working? | ||
| Yeah, can you hear us? | ||
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I'm not sure. | |
| It was some kind of router switch. | ||
| It was a wiggled router switch. | ||
| Okay, great. | ||
| Thanks a lot. | ||
| We'll go ahead and go to some calls now. | ||
| Hello, caller on the air. | ||
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Hey, Alex, this is Scott. | |
| Hey, what's going on, Scott? | ||
| Is this Scott Horton? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| How you doing, buddy? | ||
| Pretty good. | ||
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I have another call on the other line, but they'll have to call back. | |
| Okay. | ||
| What's your information? | ||
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I got some news stories for you here. | |
| I have out of the Austin Daily Socialist from Sunday, Clinton unbails aid for America. | ||
| And let me find a paragraph here where the list of people that are going to be loaning all the money. | ||
| It was going to be $45 billion from the Inter-American Development Bank, the World Bank, and the USA for International Development will be made available for an ambitious array of development projects that 34 presidents in this hemisphere have endorsed. | ||
| The countries have to apply for the loans and grants within two years. | ||
| What's going on here is this is the way the banks just operate. | ||
| They go to small South American countries, for example. | ||
| And it's just exactly like it says in this article. | ||
| And they say, oh, well, you need to build your infrastructure and you need money to invest in technologies and industry and things to get... | ||
| Wink, wink! | ||
| Wink, wink! | ||
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And, of course, it's their puppet government placed in that country. | |
| And the puppet government and the elites in that country squander the money on themselves and buy condos and invest in... | ||
| Logging firms overseas, as an example. | ||
| It's called gunboat diplomacy. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| It's called mercantilism. | ||
| It's called colonialism. | ||
| It's called criminal behavior. | ||
| It's called installing a sand trap. | ||
| It's a scam. | ||
| It's strongmen. | ||
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Right. | |
| And what happens is they say, okay, well, here's $18 billion, Argentina, or whatever. | ||
| and Argentina's elite squander the money, and then all the middle class and lower middle class people in Argentina have a brand new income tax so that they can pay interest on the debt, and of course, say five or 10 years, they've paid back the 18 billion, but now they owe another 20 billion. - Now let's they've paid back the 18 billion, but now they owe another 20 billion. - Let's make a point. | ||
| The establishment prints the money worldwide. | ||
| It isn't the money, the paper they care about. | ||
| It's the control and the debt that they have. | ||
| It's control over populations, over labor. | ||
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And that's why it's the number one scam in the world, because they print the money for free and then charge everybody interest to use it, and then everybody in the world has got an income tax for these international banking loans, and everybody is paying them in real wealth, in real people's real houses and real tangible things that they bust their ass nine to five all year long to get real wealth. | |
| Everything down last week at the... | ||
| Downtown post office, watching all those people, including myself, hurrying down there to mail that form before midnight. | ||
| All that money went overseas. | ||
| All that money went into private banks in Europe. | ||
| And that's real wealth. | ||
| They print their money out of thin air, and that is real wealth that we are transferring back to them. | ||
| Another news story, Jack Kevorkian's lawyer is running for the governor of Michigan. | ||
| I don't have many comments on that, just a nice little point here. | ||
| It's a Brave New World, Scott. | ||
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Exactly, and in fact, you know, I've been reading Brave New World Revisited today. | |
| I read Brave New World, the original one, which I'm sure many of your listeners have read, was written in 1931. Well, let's talk about it. | ||
| Hold on a second. | ||
| Brave New World, which was written in 1931. By Albus Huxley. | ||
| Yes, is science fiction. | ||
| The book you're reading was written in 1952, correct? | ||
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58, I believe. | |
| I'm sorry. | ||
| I read it a long time ago. | ||
| And it is actual sociology. | ||
| Why don't you tell us a little bit, Scott, have you been reading this book, what it's about? | ||
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Well, my favorite point in it is herd poison, is what Huxley calls it. | |
| When you get everybody standing there all looking at the same guy talking at the same time. | ||
| And they're all standing there, especially at night. | ||
| Hitler found out. | ||
| It works especially well at night. | ||
| And you get this herd poison where people are... | ||
| I don't know if you guys have ever been to a real good concert and everybody's tripping on acid and it turns into just one big organism of groupthink. | ||
| No one is considering their own individuality. | ||
| Yeah, let me finish this for you. | ||
| It's called... | ||
| It's what Hitler said. | ||
| It's designed to shut off... | ||
| The mass rally is designed to shut off the thinking process. | ||
| It's hard enough to disagree with one of your friends, much less a communal activity looking at the chief. | ||
| And this was their evolutionary to help the species continue. | ||
| You had to listen to the chief because you couldn't have 14 leaders. | ||
| And if you had a bad chief, your tribe would die off or be conquered, so you tended to have better chiefs over time. | ||
| The problem is we've got despotic, twisted... | ||
| Chiefs in power because they're separated from the people. | ||
| They can't see what they're doing. | ||
| Their advisors are a bunch of backstabbing rats and create a cosmology. | ||
| It's very complex, but the problem is you can't have one person or one party rule or one system rule in a complex civilization. | ||
| It always results in massive death and destruction. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
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And it's interesting, the two most popular, prophetic, dangerous visions of the future that have been written in this century, the two premier ones, I think, would be Brave New World in 1984. Now, see, in Brave New World, written in 1931, Huxley comes at it from the point of view that it will be mass repression, but it will be happy, loving repression, and everyone will feel good, and it will be ruled by distraction. | |
| Whereas Orwell's 1984, which was written in 1948, is based more on the Stalin-esque model, where everything is ruled by absolute fear. | ||
| And you dare not have thought crime, like Moff Tarkin on Star Wars. | ||
| Fear will keep the locals in line. | ||
| And the attitude of everyone goes along to get along, and they're willing to accept, double-think. | ||
| and everything else because they're scared of the thought police and Huxley's making the point in this Brave New World Revisited he's kind of to a point comparing and contrasting Brave New World in 1984 and explaining how we seem to be getting into a pretty good hybrid because the people who like it who are in on it or think they're part of the establishment or when they see Clinton smiling on TV they identify with him well it's ruled by distraction for them But then you | ||
| have the people who know what's going on, but they're scared to do anything. | ||
| How do you like that? | ||
| They don't know what kind of lift they're going to get put on. | ||
| Yes, it is a balance of power, and that is exactly what's happening, and it's very scientifically crafted. | ||
| It is conditioning, and most people are ruled by their instincts totally, and they're ruled by the pack mentality, by popular culture. | ||
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That's exactly right. | |
| Oh, and I'd like to make a point real quick. | ||
| I scribbled this down while I was on hold, and you guys were talking about Hughes Aircraft. | ||
| Hughes Aircraft is a subsidiary of General Motors, which is owned and controlled by the Rockefeller dynasty. | ||
| Well, let's talk about something important here. | ||
| GE owned IG Farben that made the death camps, created Cyclone B, the gas to kill people. | ||
| That's a fact. | ||
| Ford's division in Europe... | ||
| It was and still is Opal. | ||
| They created the Panzers. | ||
| The Rockefellers owned 80% in 1970 of Russian and Ukrainian aluminum production. | ||
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And of course, Chase Manhattan Bank, David Rockefeller's bank, was the first American bank to open up in post-Soviet Russia. | |
| Let's think about something, though. | ||
| You keep professors watching right now. | ||
| He knows a lot of what we're saying is true, but he's afraid to talk about it. | ||
| He's got, he's compromised over and over again until there's nothing left. | ||
| And it's really sad that they're like that. | ||
| I take incredible risk, Mike takes incredible risk. | ||
| We're all taking risks here. | ||
| And I don't understand the fear because I refuse to cower. | ||
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You know, a lot of people aren't that strong, Alex, and a lot of people think, I thought for a long time, well, man, I know some of this stuff. | |
| I learned about it when I was in high school, started learning about it when I watched a huge aircraft video about their neat new smart highway system that they had developed, and I went, oh, my God. | ||
| But wait a minute, you know, I'm not sure. | ||
| I want to go get marked down on somebody's list now, and a lot of people feel that way. | ||
| Well, let me explain. | ||
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Let me read you this quote. | |
| Hold on just a second. | ||
| There's an important point here, though, Scott. | ||
| And we've made it over and over again. | ||
| The military-industrial system that we've been warned about many times, the problem is we do need a strong defense. | ||
| But the problem is they're always arming enemies for an excuse for us to have a massive defense. | ||
| And at the same time, they hand down these technologies and militarize local police. | ||
| They foster crime. | ||
| They create new divisions of crime. | ||
| And now they're trying to disarm the population. | ||
| So I would say that they have subdued us with their diversions and with their flashy packaging. | ||
| But they're showing their true colors. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| That's the scary part. | ||
| These people had us subdued. | ||
| They could have made us intelligent and led us like real leaders, but they're not real leaders because they've gotten power through evil, through backstabbing behavior. | ||
| That's what they are. | ||
| So now they've got control. | ||
| They're going to start killing a lot of people. | ||
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Yes, because they don't believe in people. | |
| They think they're better. | ||
| They're the enlightened ones. | ||
| They're the ones who can kill at will because those petty masses out there don't count. | ||
| They're the ones that have the straight-laced FBI agents that are just yes-men who... | ||
| Who take orders and feel officials. | ||
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Yeah, well, I'm referring to the inner circle. | |
| No, no, I said they're the ones who have petty yes-men, FBI agents, that think they're really doing something good. | ||
| They think as long as it comes from an authority figure in a suit down to them, that it's acceptable behavior. | ||
| And I'll assure you, it's not acceptable behavior. | ||
| We have a lot of good people in law enforcement at the state, national, and even the supranational level, and they're getting very angry, and that's why the establishment is starting to panic. | ||
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Yep, and that's why they're starting to militarize. | |
| The point you just made, I mean domestically, the point you just made, Alex, is a perfect quote from President Wilson, one of the most popular presidents in the history of the United States. | ||
| As you know, a traitor and an agent of the Rothschilds. | ||
| Who actually confessed on his deathbed that he was deceived and betrayed his country. | ||
| But he and J.P. Morgan ended up selling us out to the Federal Reserve Act and the income tax that came two years later. | ||
| And they tried to, hold on, and they tried to give us the League of Nations, the 1918 version of the U.N. But Henry Cabot Lodge and some constitutionalists in the Senate did the right thing. | ||
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Are you still there? | |
| Yeah, I still am. | ||
| Can you hear me? | ||
| Yeah, Scott, listen, I gotta go ahead and go to some more calls. | ||
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Hey, wait, let me read this Wilson quote real quick, man, one more time. | |
| Real quick, this is before he sold out. | ||
| The history of liberty is a history of limitations of governmental power, not the increase of it. | ||
| When we resist, therefore, the concentration of power, we are resisting the powers of death, because concentration of power is what always precedes the destruction of human liberty. | ||
| Well, I would say this, I would amend that. | ||
| I would amend that. | ||
| I would say the criminal consolidation of wealth and power. | ||
| And to truly consolidate power, because there's so many intelligent people, you do have to be a criminal. | ||
| Scott, I appreciate your call, buddy. | ||
| Mike, I want to keep you with us for the rest of the show. | ||
| You want to stay? | ||
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I can hang around. | |
| You know, one thing he was hitting on is this 1984. I mean, think about not only all the cameras, the thumb scanning, the iris. | ||
| You know, there's certain ATMs that take your eye image. | ||
| Yeah, they're going to make you do it to buy and sell. | ||
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Think about this. | |
| Your tax money is buying the cameras and the equipment that's monitored. | ||
| I mean, there's something wrong. | ||
| It just doesn't ring right. | ||
| I can't believe people are just accepting it. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| 200 years from now, me and you will be remembered if this planet's still around. | ||
| If they win, it'll be destroyed. | ||
| Or there'll be some hellish technocracy emerge that... | ||
| And all you are going to pay for your ignorance. | ||
| You're going to pay for your slovenliness. | ||
| You're going to pay for your lack of vision. | ||
| You're going to pay for being a slave. | ||
| You're going to be treated like one. | ||
| And your handlers aren't going to be very nice. | ||
| They're going to cram drugs down your throat. | ||
| They're going to dumb down your children. | ||
| They're going to regulate you into absolute abject slavery. | ||
| Mike, any more points before we go to this video? | ||
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No, Scott had some good ones there. | |
| I really like Scott, and Scott is going to get a TV show down here. | ||
| I've been pushing him to do it. | ||
| Hello, you're on the air. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| Talking about the smart highway system, last week, Channel 24, they even ran a little... | ||
| And two weeks before that, they ran a piece on cameras. | ||
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Right. | |
| Well, they talked about, and they actually showed the antennas over the highways in San Antonio, and they even said that they've handed out 70-something thousand of these little, they didn't call them transponders, they said these little cards that you put up in the windshield of your car in San Antonio to the people, and they talked about... | ||
| Well, it's enacted. | ||
| They got it running in Houston. | ||
| It's running in San Antonio. | ||
| They showed the monitoring room and everything with the policemen sitting there watching. | ||
| Oh, yes, if they have a wreck, while we're monitoring all this. | ||
| And they actually even called them surveillance cameras. | ||
| They've got them right here on 183. They just don't have the cameras up yet. | ||
| I know. | ||
| They've got the pedestals up. | ||
| I want people to realize something. | ||
| And this is very important to understand. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Most businesses, you have to have a car to get into. | ||
| Very convenient. | ||
| I've pulled in gas stations when you can't get gas because the satellite is shut down, and there's 50 cars lined up. | ||
| In 20 years, at current rates, or 5, 10 years really, your computer will let you in your house. | ||
| You will have a voice print identification. | ||
| They're going to put them on all the doors. | ||
| They'll be very cheap, very inexpensive because of miniaturization. | ||
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There's really nothing wrong with that at all. | |
| There's really nothing wrong with that at all if there is no clipper chip. | ||
| Well, or if you're not behind on taxes or somehow sideways with some authorities, then you shut off. | ||
| Let me finish making this point. | ||
| The point is, and the problem is... | ||
| These are all hooked into computer grids, that are hooked into the Internet, and these companies that are in with the global slave state, known as the New World Order, have backdoor keys into all your computer systems if they're connected to any type of hub or if you ever plug any electronic device into anything else. | ||
| And let me tell you something else about it. | ||
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You got it. | |
| You have this thumb scanning. | ||
| They're going to be able to track you like a package. | ||
| Where you buy, where you sell. | ||
| They're going to put transponders. | ||
| And the documentary that is almost done, we have, all we have to do is put the credits on it. | ||
| The problem is, is next week they're going to have a class in here, I thought it was this week, probably. | ||
| But if there isn't a class in here next week, I'm going to play the documentary. | ||
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Also, Alex, they even said that the police forces in Houston, Dallas, and San Antonio have completed their training with the feds. | |
| On their anti-terrorism training, and they're due to start with the Austin Police Department here in a few weeks. | ||
| Well, they're not due to start. | ||
| They're due to increase it. | ||
| You're fixing to start seeing them marching up and down the streets. | ||
| And people will just turn their heads like they do with military helicopters and black helicopters and black ops helicopters fly over. | ||
| And the statesman writes articles about three weeks ago on the back of, what was it, March 28th, A28. They have black helicopters, they're real, but you're still a coot to talk about it here in North Carolina. | ||
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Yeah, they've been blowing up. | |
| The local town people hear stuff blowing up, but they're all happy because it's created 40 jobs for their town. | ||
| And right now they've got the Palestinian security forces over there learning how to blow stuff up. | ||
| By the way, they trained the Egyptians in 1992. Think about it. | ||
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The CIA should be in intelligence. | |
| What is the CIA doing blowing up bombs? | ||
| Well, oh, they said they blow them up in the Statesman to be able to reconstruct what really happened. | ||
| No, they blow, look, it says in the Statesman, but it talks about how people like it and how wonderful it is. | ||
| See, that's the new policy because of information. | ||
| Because the Internet and other information, a lot of it's bull, a lot of it's true, they're just disclosing, okay, what's the big deal? | ||
| So what? | ||
| So what Clinton sells missile technology to Chinese? | ||
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It's like the people in Long Beach. | |
| The people in Long Beach think it's just great that Costco's building that big container facility at the old naval base. | ||
| And they're bringing in slave goods, they're bringing in organs on ice, or that's being flown into the Georgia Air Force base that they're attempting to take over in the high desert of California. | ||
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That's because these Americans have just totally forgot what America stands for. | |
| You know what? | ||
| Yes, sir, you're right. | ||
| In a way, I kind of have a sick little smile. | ||
| I'm sad for my sister, and I'm sad for my parents, and I'm sad for me, because I know this is real. | ||
| I know where I'm going, and it's a real pleasure. | ||
| And to sit there and to know what we're going into, these slobs are going to go through unbelievable hell. | ||
| They're going to have their water turned off. | ||
| They're going to be treated like crap. | ||
| They're going to be shaken down on the side of the street. | ||
| They're going to cower down all these prideful slobs. | ||
| They're going to get what they deserve. | ||
| Not Alex Jones! | ||
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But at least you can feel good. | |
| And you can put a smile on your face. | ||
| Death to the new world order. | ||
| All right, buddy. | ||
| Any more comments? | ||
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No, that was it. | |
| You know, one of their doctrines, they've been doing some chemical drills all around the country. | ||
| And one of the first things they're going to do, if there is a chemical attack by provocateur or whatever, I tend to doubt it'd be a terrorist. | ||
| Take up the gun, put in the thumb scanner. | ||
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When you go to the hospital, you're going to find the doors are locked. | |
| That's our civil defense for chemical terrorism. | ||
| They're going to lock the doors at the hospital. | ||
| You might want to be thinking about that. | ||
| And again, Mike is an incredible researcher, just like Scott Horton that you just heard. | ||
| Mike comes to me, and I've gotten not lazy, but just so overwhelmed. | ||
| Stacks of stuff, information. | ||
| The media is just disclosing this, but they do it like... | ||
| Again, Clinton slit throats of children. | ||
| I'm being sarcastic. | ||
| He does it to give nutrients to the grass. | ||
| Clinton sells missile guidance systems for nuclear missiles to the Chinese. | ||
| What is that? | ||
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I used to kind of enjoy it when he'd leave the country, but now it seems like every time he goes somewhere, he gives more money away. | |
| Maybe we ought to keep them here for a while. | ||
| Well, it's just Federal Reserve notes that we pay debt on. | ||
| It's just, you know, putting another straw on the camel's back of the slaves. | ||
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Makes you want to run down and take them some more money to the other. | |
| Mike, all we've got to do is cram another cheeseburger in these people's mouths. | ||
| They'll submit. | ||
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It's amazing. | |
| But they're cool, you know. | ||
| They're too cool to admit what's happening. | ||
| They're too cool, you know. | ||
| And they tell us that this anti-terrorism training is going on, Mike. | ||
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Oh, I mean, Houston. | |
| They disclose it all the time. | ||
| But still, people on the street will laugh at me. | ||
| Well, you're fixing to see Attorney General during the LBJ administration. | ||
| He also worked with Kennedy. | ||
| He worked in the Carter administration. | ||
| You're fixing to see a real classical liberal, a real person, Ramsey Clark coming up in about... | ||
| It's about 15 minutes into this piece. | ||
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Go ahead, Mike. | |
| I'm sorry. | ||
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No, I mean, they've been doing... | |
| They did it in Houston. | ||
| They went into the Rice Hotel and actually had live fire. | ||
| This is right in the middle of downtown Houston. | ||
| They had a helicopter assault with no lights on the helicopters at 9 o'clock at night. | ||
| They actually crash-landed. | ||
| Out at Hall Airport out in Sugar Land and injured two guys in one of those little OH-58 or whatever it is. | ||
| Surveillance helicopters. | ||
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And then the FBI guys in charge of the anti-terrorism said they didn't know anything about it. | |
| And they've done it in Florida. | ||
| They've done it in Memphis. | ||
| They're doing it all over the place. | ||
| This is the Voppen SS with a smiley Clinton face with a smiley Newt Gingrich on it. | ||
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They're practicing invasion of cities. | |
| Now, when the military practices something, they're not doing it just for the heck of it. | ||
| We've got good information. | ||
| They're doing it up at Fort Hood. | ||
| They're doing the same thing. | ||
| Anyway, I don't know. | ||
| There'll be people... | ||
| Whoever's woke up now, I don't think too many more people are going to... | ||
| They're just going to be in denial. | ||
| That's their choice. | ||
| When I went down and talked to Lieutenant Beck, who supposedly... | ||
| He's a nice guy. | ||
| He's in denial. | ||
| He's coming down this Sunday to the Chariot Inn from 1 to... | ||
| 5 p.m., he's going to speak to people. | ||
| And he's a Travis County SWAT team. | ||
| And, you know, he sat there and he told me, well, we do train with the military, but I can't really talk about that. | ||
| But it's no big deal, Alex. | ||
| And, you know, now they're telling us in the media that it's just starting. | ||
| You know, it's accelerating. | ||
| It's increasing. | ||
| I remember two years ago driving back from an AXS TV show and seeing, like, down there on 11th, like 200 people in black uniforms, some of them with helmets and ski masks, going into a building. | ||
| I don't know what they were doing, but doing some kind of training. | ||
| But, I mean, I'm not exaggerating. | ||
| 200. 200. You have this federal control, which is very dangerous. | ||
| It's a telltale sign of fashion going on. | ||
| And Lieutenant Beck sat out there. | ||
| I walked out of the commissioner's court meeting. | ||
| I'd been there to expose the helicopter base they're building. | ||
| And they lied and said it's not a helicopter base for surveillance. | ||
| And then last night we played Margo Frazier. | ||
| Did you see that? | ||
| On the Freedom Report, Steve Lane got a report out there with her and she says, yeah, I respect her now. | ||
| And she told the truth. | ||
| I mean, you know... | ||
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Well, the thing is... | |
| But you've got the commissioners up there who got this money under... | ||
| They got it under Star Flight. | ||
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They got it under EMS. Well, they're used to doing things by hook or crook. | |
| They're used to keeping things under wraps. | ||
| So why do you think they're going to admit something to you now? | ||
| Yeah, well, I don't think Margaret Fraser will do too good up in Washington. | ||
| I don't think she's ever going to get promoted talking like that. | ||
| I mean, she's weird. | ||
| Actually, admitting something that's true. | ||
| But to make a long... | ||
| And she did soft soap it. | ||
| But to sit there... | ||
| And look at this. | ||
| Anyway, there's always a story. | ||
| I can't tell one story without going into something else. | ||
| I was walking out from that commissioner's meeting after being last hit by the county attorney when I had the documents. | ||
| I had the 28-page document. | ||
| Helicopter bases, infrared, all this. | ||
| And they're going, that's the old document. | ||
| You're wrong. | ||
| And they're sort of laughing at me. | ||
| And I can't believe I tried to be nice to them. | ||
| I need to get back down there as soon as I can to expose this. | ||
| And I'm in Beck's, and Beck comes out and wants to talk to me. | ||
| So it's the first time I went over to his office. | ||
| I've talked to him twice now, because he wants to talk to me sometimes. | ||
| And he goes, Alex, I like to, you know, drink beer and fly my airplane. | ||
| And I'm like, well, that's fine, but you shouldn't be training with the feds. | ||
| Why do you wear a black ski mask? | ||
| Well, it's for glass, and it's for this. | ||
| Oh, yeah, well, the executioner's wore that. | ||
| Well, let me finish this. | ||
| I mean, I have to finish this. | ||
| I'm sorry, because, I mean, I have to get these thoughts out. | ||
| And I said to him, I said, you're going to come under total federal control, sir. | ||
| I know you're training with him. | ||
| He goes, well, yes, but that's just for training. | ||
| And I said, you're going to come under federal control. | ||
| And he said, that'll never happen. | ||
| That night, Secretary of Defense William Cohen came out and announced it. | ||
| The beginnings of it. | ||
| I'm sorry, go ahead. | ||
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No, the thing is, there are some dangerous felons out there. | |
| But these guys, I don't understand if these law enforcement officers... | ||
| Pay attention to the news. | ||
| They let these guys out in two years, three years. | ||
| If you look at some of these shootings around here, these people have a record a mile long. | ||
| That's the plan. | ||
| That's the plan. | ||
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Right. | |
| And you'd think some of these officers would get together and say, hey, you know, what's wrong with this picture? | ||
| I mean, Jack McClam, Police Against New World Order, puts out some good information. | ||
| They need to be looking at some of these judges. | ||
| I could name... | ||
| Who are these judges? | ||
| Who are these district attorneys? | ||
| Who are these corrupt machines? | ||
| They don't have the centurions to enforce their orders. | ||
| And that's your biggest problem, slave masters, elitist out there, is that your own people are waking up. | ||
| Military people are refusing to take your anthrax shots that the paper admitted. | ||
| You know something I thought about driving over here tonight? | ||
| I think this is a dumbbell test. | ||
| They want the good people to get out. | ||
| And the idiots to stay in the military who'll do it. | ||
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Well, anybody that questions anything, they're looking at them with some serious scrutiny. | |
| Well, yes. | ||
| The paper, the states from the New York Times and everywhere, a couple months ago when we had it, admitted that these anthrax shots are linked to Gulf War illness, that they are... | ||
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And then it doesn't even cover the Russian version of anthrax. | |
| Well, yes, yes. | ||
| These things they're inoculating them with doesn't even cover it. | ||
| They haven't even been approved. | ||
| They're experimental. | ||
| They're highly dangerous. | ||
| Vaccines are very dangerous if they haven't been tested. | ||
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See, everybody just forgot about Gulf War illness. | |
| Never mind. | ||
| There's all these dead GIs from the Gulf War. | ||
| Well, they print this in the paper. | ||
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We're already on to the next thing. | |
| Well, that's the scary part. | ||
| They print it in the paper, and the smart soldiers, they only print it once, all over the country one time, the smart soldiers see this and get the hell out. | ||
| But the idiot morons, they love it. | ||
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And there's still some good people. | |
| You know, I used to assume that people in the military were up on current events, but that's not the case, 100%. | ||
| Now, there are some, you know, there's exceptions to that. | ||
| Well, tell us about what's going on. | ||
| Don't reveal your military source. | ||
| I know people in military intelligence. | ||
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Fort Hood, Fort Hood, the... | |
| There's certain units up there that are on full alert, apparently from this April 19th deal. | ||
| And there was a provocateur piece put out over the internet that some group was going to declare war. | ||
| And it's got everybody all excited. | ||
| And there's also Canadian troops. | ||
| And I'm sure they come in and out from time to time, but there's a bunch of Canadian troops running around Fort Hood. | ||
| Somebody ought to ask why. | ||
| Maybe do some digging. | ||
| Well, I talked to... | ||
| And they wouldn't talk about it on camera. | ||
| I talked to Ramsey Clark, who was an attorney general and also worked in two other Democratic administrations. | ||
| A very intelligent man. | ||
| And they wouldn't talk about it on camera. | ||
| I talked to... | ||
| In fact, where's my wallet? | ||
| I've got a bunch of their cards and names. | ||
| I talked to William... | ||
| I mean, Mike... | ||
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McNulty? | |
| Yeah, Mike McNulty. | ||
| I've been working my butt off. | ||
| Mike McNulty about this, and they wouldn't say it on camera, but the new film that's coming out actually shows some footage. | ||
| None of them just shooting the people as they run out, but you saw the tanks going in, inside the boat, actually inside, and the back's lowering down. | ||
| With people coming out, they had people with breathing apparatus and full body armor. | ||
| They were shooting them on the inside, on the outside. | ||
| They planted a mine. | ||
| They have the order. | ||
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Yeah, what was that big explosion? | |
| Remember that big explosion? | ||
| Yes, they have the purchase orders. | ||
| They're getting death threats now. | ||
| They have the purchase orders and the delivery of the mine. | ||
| That was placed on top of the bunker with the children. | ||
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That thing put off a mushroom cloud. | |
| Yeah. | ||
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That was a heck of an explosion. | |
| This is going to come out. | ||
| And... | ||
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I don't understand these people. | |
| I mean, do they have small penises? | ||
| I don't mean to be gross here. | ||
| Are these impotent men out here? | ||
| And Reno, an impotent bag of pus that couldn't get a man? | ||
| No, I think it is sexual. | ||
| I think Freud is right about this. | ||
| I think weak... | ||
| Rat people on the male side and weak people on the female side run our system. | ||
| I shouldn't say male. | ||
| But it is sexual inadequacy. | ||
| And they just love to stomp people. | ||
| I mean, these people make me want to vomit. | ||
| And there are media that lies. | ||
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You know, we can go back from not only 24, but remember the big go-around on the thumb scan with our friends over at KVET. I mean, there's one guy over there. | |
| The KVET that I have respect for, and that's John Doggett. | ||
| And the rest of them, the news is like sugarcoating. | ||
| You can sit there. | ||
| You don't even have to put 50 cents in the paper machine. | ||
| You can read the paper through the machine and get more news than you'll get off of KVET. But I don't know. | ||
| Well, look, they were probably, Sammy and Bob were probably real popular in high school. | ||
| Probably so. | ||
| These are the type of people. | ||
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Sammy talks about freedom and liberty. | |
| But when it pertains to him, but if somebody calls in about it, it's... | ||
| Well, he'll talk about it occasionally. | ||
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I mean, we... | |
| Well, you're fixing to see, again, Attorney General come up in about a few minutes. | ||
| We're talking about it. | ||
| I had to do a very good interview. | ||
| I should have done a better one. | ||
| I should do better on all this. | ||
| We'll go to one more call, and then we'll go to the tape. | ||
| Hello, you're on the air. | ||
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Hello? | |
| Yeah, Alex? | ||
| Hey, my name's Kevin, and... | ||
| When you were just talking about the sexual inadequacy of the people that run things, I just wanted to know how that You think that would be so with Clinton? | ||
| You know, I mean, he seems to get laid quite a bit, and he seems to be running. | ||
| Sir, it was just an offhand comment, and I'm not going to get diverted into Clinton and his diversions. | ||
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Okay, well, anyway. | |
| Clinton is their front man. | ||
| Clinton is their pitch man. | ||
| I'm talking about people like Lon Horiuchi, FBI sniper that shot Vicki Weaver while she was nursing her baby, and they admitted in the head and blew her head off. | ||
| I'm talking about shooting Sam Weaver. | ||
| 14 years old in the back three times and blowing one of his arms off after they shot the dog to get him to come outside. | ||
| That's what I'm talking about. | ||
| I'm talking about them forming false charges, calling them white supremacists when they weren't. | ||
| I'm talking about a lying, backstabbing, double-dealing government that is trying to imprison Bo Greit, the most highly decorated living soldier, because he went and tried to get Linda Wiegand's children away from a sex cult. | ||
| I'm talking about Ted Gunderson, ex-head of the FBI in Southern California, over 700 men at one time, documenting this information and made-for-TV movies coming out and slandering him. | ||
| I'm talking about General Parton, ex-head of Air Force Weapons Development, telling you that they destroyed that building and documenting it all the way down in Oklahoma City. | ||
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What? | |
| You fool, I will not talk to you anymore, you smiley-faced slave. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| I have no time for any of you anymore. | ||
| General Parton, ex-head of Air Force Weapons Development with three engineering degrees. | ||
| I've played about a dozen documentaries on it. | ||
| If you're too lazy to sit down and watch it, then I'm not going to sit here. | ||
| Do you understand that terrorist arms, black ops squads, destroyed Oklahoma City? | ||
| There is film footage that I have run on this program and on other tape programs where I have more time. | ||
| Cover-up in Oklahoma. | ||
| It showed photographs of military squads there on the ground 30 seconds after it exploded. | ||
| The building blew out. | ||
| Gurs were destroyed. | ||
| Cysographs picked up multiple explosions. | ||
| The military was testing and blowing up buildings. | ||
| Six months before out in Arizona. | ||
| The CIA up in North Carolina, correct? | ||
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Right. | |
| Is up there with black helicopters swarming around this base, blowing up buildings, pulling in limousines. | ||
| They come out shot up and burn out and school buses burn out. | ||
| They're practicing hits. | ||
| They're practicing terrorism. | ||
| They're training terrorists. | ||
| It's not Iran that trains the terrorists. | ||
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But it created 40 jobs in that town. | |
| You know, something people never talk about, and I'm not a friend of Iran or a friend of Iraq, even though we created Iraq. | ||
| We were the Shah, and we contributed to what Iran is now. | ||
| They had torture camps where they tortured tens of thousands of people a month in Iran under the Shah, who was a British agent. | ||
| This kind of information just went on and on. | ||
| And then after the Shah fell, our government blew up a bunch of buildings over there. | ||
| Just to get that oil? | ||
| We're Americans. | ||
| We can create new technologies. | ||
| And if anybody messes with us, we should nuke them off to face the planet. | ||
| But we shouldn't sell them nuclear weapons technology like we've done China. | ||
| What's wrong with... | ||
| I mean, don't people see that we're American patriots, that we care about this country? | ||
| One more call. | ||
| Hello, you're on the air. | ||
| Alex. | ||
| Yes. | ||
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You know what happened in Cambodia with the genocide? | |
| Yes, Pol Pot. | ||
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The exact same thing is happening in Nicaragua right now. | |
| I know. | ||
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Not one single national or local media is reporting on it. | |
| Listen, those little peasants are not going to grow corn anymore. | ||
| They're not going to grow coffee and make a nice living. | ||
| They're going to grow cocaine for the Central Intelligence Agency. | ||
| Or they're going to move to town and work in the factories putting together telephones and transistors for you to buy in your stores. | ||
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Alex, listen to this. | |
| I went on the internet because I was dying for information about what was going on in Nicaragua. | ||
| And the most recent reference to Nicaragua that I could find on the worldwide net was from 1996. They had it totally shut down. | ||
| So tell me what's going on there. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| They're growing cocaine and growing heroin and making a lot of money. | ||
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No, genocide is going on there. | |
| They are killing the people. | ||
| They're killing the indigenous Indians. | ||
| Look, that's nothing new. | ||
| When the Spanish came over here to America, I was just reading a book. | ||
| I talked about this last night. | ||
| I can't even... | ||
| My mother gave me a book about the history of dogs, because I love dogs. | ||
| And it was written by a woman here in Austin, very well written. | ||
| I'll bring the book or something sometime. | ||
| I'll probably have it on my radio show sometime. | ||
| But I opened this thing up, and I'm reading it, and it gives me a page 20 or so, and it talks about it, and I remember this. | ||
| Where the word dogum came from? | ||
| That was throwing somebody at the dogs. | ||
| They had these war dogs, these mastiffs, and they didn't have meat for them on these islands, and they would cut Indians up for meat. | ||
| This is nothing new. | ||
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No, it's not new, but that's what I'm saying. | |
| It's fixing to happen here. | ||
| Good! | ||
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Well, they did it. | |
| It happened in Cambodia. | ||
| It's happening in Nicaragua. | ||
| These people deserve it. | ||
| I wish it wasn't going to happen. | ||
| It makes me very sad that this is going to happen. | ||
| And you know, people at KVENT Radio could sit up there and smile all the way, and they'll be fine unless some person in a black ski mask wants to rape their daughter, and then they'll find out how it really works. | ||
| Or, you know, all these other radio stations at 24 and KI and all the rest of them, they feel like they're part of the system. | ||
| They're nothing but well-paid slaves, smiley-faced punks. | ||
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Government news, agent. | |
| Well, this is the century for genocide, and it's happening worldwide. | ||
| I don't know why we feel like we're exempt. | ||
| What's your first name? | ||
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David. | |
| You know what they did? | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| David, the Chinese, we're not sure. | ||
| 100, 200 million, 30 million at any one time in slave labor camps with 25% attrition rate. | ||
| How many million is that a year? | ||
| Selling children's organs, selling fetuses for health food. | ||
| You can literally go to China and film this in their health food stores. | ||
| I may go do it. | ||
| But it'd be a good place for me to get killed. | ||
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And that's the tip of the iceberg. | |
| But it's love. | ||
| We should have traded with Hitler. | ||
| We should have bought those lampshades out of skin. | ||
| We should have bought the soap. | ||
| This will be on TV someday. | ||
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You know what they did in Cambodia nine days before the genocide started is they started rounding up the guns. | |
| Oh, and also all the little nice professors and people that helped Pol Pot come to power that were loving and understanding liberals, they were the first to go because they were the ones that put them in power and they know that. | ||
| You know, I've used an example before. | ||
| Do you think back in olden days when a traitor came down to open up the drawbridge? | ||
| I mean, to lower the drawbridge and open the gate. | ||
| Do you think when the Conquering Army march through, do you think that they patted that guy on the back and gave him those gold coins? | ||
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No. | |
| They don't want this guy next month opening it for the next guy. | ||
| They slit your throat. | ||
| At least when they kill me, they'll have a little respect for me. | ||
| But they're going to love taking your family. | ||
| They're going to love raping you psychically. | ||
| Psychically and mentally and physically. | ||
| And you are going to deserve it out there. | ||
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Well, you know, I heard this one guy that had lived through what happened in Cambodia, and they said, what if the Khmer Rouge comes back into power? | |
| What will you do? | ||
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We'll smash them. | |
| Yeah, right. | ||
| You know, everybody says, yeah, we're going to smash them when it happens. | ||
| But the thing is to catch it before it happens. | ||
| Yeah, it'd be a lot easier to do it politically, wouldn't it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, you always hear about how the UN is, oh, they're stopping. | ||
| Pol Pot. | ||
| The U.N. has been over there helping Pol Pot. | ||
| Does anyone know why Anthony Lake, ex-National Security Advisor, now it's Berger, didn't get his Senate confirmation? | ||
| And I'm surprised that they didn't give it to him, and they let Clinton give missiles away, or missile guidance systems. | ||
| He was pro-Pol Pot. | ||
| He was over there and... | ||
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Yeah, but he had been National Security Advisor for years. | |
| I mean, it's... | ||
| Not one person in the command route has been prosecuted. | ||
| Let me give you one more example. | ||
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Clinton... | |
| Well, they say Pol Pot's dead, which is a bunch of crap. | ||
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Yeah, I think so, too. | |
| Yeah, it's interesting how he, nine days before Pol Pot. | ||
| Hold on, I've got good eyes. | ||
| I'm an oil painter and artist. | ||
| I have, I mean, I have 15, 20 vision. | ||
| I have really good vision. | ||
| I've seen Pol Pot my whole life. | ||
| I've seen his photograph. | ||
| It's not Pol Pot. | ||
| It's not a bloody Pol Pot. | ||
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You know, that's amazing. | |
| They burned the body, you know, before they could do any autopsy or whatever. | ||
| Well, here's the important point. | ||
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Clinton... | |
| Comes out two days before. | ||
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Says we're going to arrest him. | |
| This happens to Pol Pot, and suddenly he's dead. | ||
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He did this in 75. Why now in 98 are we wanting to arrest him? | |
| Pol Pot is in Switzerland, or Pol Pot is in Spain, living on a 100,000 acre ranch. | ||
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He's in Brazil with Hitler. | |
| Yes. | ||
| Well, with Klaus Barbie as CIA operative. | ||
| Did you know Klaus Barbie? | ||
| This is documented even on the Discovery Channel. | ||
| They always tell you 40 years later. | ||
| Help set up the CIA's... | ||
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Yeah, they tell you afterwards. | |
| Do what, sir? | ||
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They tell you afterwards, always. | |
| Yeah, and that's part of the desypatization. | ||
| Tell you and shock you later so you won't be shocked by the next horrific sign. | ||
| And people see all this murder on television, so what's the big deal with them? | ||
| What do they expect? | ||
| I mean, they've seen Arnold Schwarzenegger. | ||
| I used to think violence was no big deal. | ||
| I used to like to go to violent movies. | ||
| Now I kind of question it. | ||
| Not because it's a big deal or because I want to censor it. | ||
| No, I don't want to censor it, but I can speak out against it. | ||
| I've turned into a real nerd here. | ||
| Because if you see somebody killing and slaughtering and murdering and guts and death, even if you're defending, you know, or it's a good guy doing it for his family, when you see that later, you have been desynthetized to it. | ||
| Now let's go further. | ||
| I can handle a cowboy movie or a Schwarzenegger movie because at least it's a good guy fighting bad guys and standing up. | ||
| We need that type of role model. | ||
| But we're seeing new movies come out where serial killers are the person or the murderer is kind of admired. | ||
| And yes, and I kill people with a knife when I slit their throat. | ||
| I don't use a gun and the audience claps or Woody Harrelson machine guns police officers and kills women and children. | ||
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Everyone claps and giggles with delight because he laughs when he does it. | |
| There's some movie right now where some kid goes to school, he... | ||
| Yes, kill us! | ||
| Kill us! | ||
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Kill us! | |
| That's what they say! | ||
| You roam! | ||
| Kill us! | ||
| I say kill the people doing this! | ||
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It's bad. | |
| I say get them... | ||
| Look, you know... | ||
| And of course I don't mean the things I say, but I am just so sick of seeing people like that. | ||
| I know I seem very angry, and I am. | ||
| Go ahead, Mike, for a call. | ||
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Alex, a couple years ago in Rwanda... | |
| They were killing the people so fast and throwing them in the river because they didn't even want to bother burying them. | ||
| That was the United Nations. | ||
| I had shown the photos, the documents, it was in the world press. | ||
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The news reports say you could sit there for 24 hours a day just watching the bodies go down from shore to shore in the river, just that thick. | |
| They say about a million, one hundred thousand died, and what it was is the UN didn't actually kill the people, except when they wanted to rape or kill somebody, I have the photos. | ||
| I've shown them many times. | ||
| And you've shown them, you've handed them out at places, at UN meetings and things, but of course they just laugh and say you're an extremist. | ||
| Even though it was first published in The Village Voice, a real liberal publication, not really phony ones. | ||
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Not with the Belgian peacekeepers roasting the Somali kid over the fire? | |
| Yeah, or... | ||
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Or right now, right now, we went to invest, the UN went to investigate old Kabila in the Congo, because he murdered a whole bunch of people, and they, I guess they got threatened, the UN's tucking tail and getting out of there. | |
| Well, the UN likes to work with people so they can steal oil for the transnational criminals that aren't free markets. | ||
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Oh, UN. There's going to be Kofi Annan coming to Houston to the Baker Institute, and I don't have the date. | |
| It's in the next month or so. | ||
| I'll get you the date. | ||
| And they're going to have more of the high school. | ||
| It's going to be that model UN deal. | ||
| To tell you the truth, I am... | ||
| I am so mad at the new money and the low-level executives, I mean low-level and, you know, $100 million companies or $10 million companies or whatever, who think they're real rich and think they're part of the system. | ||
| These guys are going to get cold. | ||
| You know, the stock market goes up and up and up, but it goes like this. | ||
| So people are getting used to the cycle. | ||
| Don't worry. | ||
| Buy when it goes down. | ||
| And then it's going to start dropping, and the media's going to say, oh, it'll go back up. | ||
| Don't worry. | ||
| We have advisors. | ||
| They're going to fix it. | ||
| And when it hits... | ||
| When it gets about halfway down, the media is suddenly going to change because they've done it in 29, and before that, it's a classic tactic. | ||
| What was not destroyed, merely transferred. | ||
| They're going to declare, oh, it's totally bankrupt, new financial system, and the bottom's going to drop out, and then the real money mongers, the real money, is going to come in and buy everything up on pennies on the dollar. | ||
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Alex, do you know where all that money goes? | |
| Every time that there's been a stock crash, a major stock crash, it has been followed by a war. | ||
| They're hoarding money for war. | ||
| That's where that money goes when the stock market crashes. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| You're absolutely right, and I tell you, we can't really have a war right now, can we? | ||
| We have nuclear weapons. | ||
| We have biological weapons. | ||
| We've got to stop this behavior. | ||
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Well, as long as the 10% remaining afterwards are communists, who cares? | |
| Exactly. | ||
| Well, not communists, slaves of elitists. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Let's stop using their little political catchphrase. | ||
| I appreciate your call, buddy. | ||
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Bye. | |
| Take care. | ||
| All right, we're going to go ahead and go to this tape. | ||
| This was taped for the Freedom Report. | ||
| I edited it real fast. | ||
| In fact, I didn't even edit it. | ||
| I just hacked out pieces of interviews in about 30 minutes yesterday. | ||
| So bear with us. | ||
| We'll have a better, longer version for you on replay in the next few weeks. | ||
| And I'm told that this Thursday... | ||
| You can see the tax protest on the Real News Hour. | ||
| And that's not my show. | ||
| It's somebody else's. | ||
| I wasn't there, but it's going to be good with Steve Lane. | ||
| But that's every Thursday, 5 to 6 p.m. | ||
| on Channel 10. But real fast, I want to thank my sponsor before we go to this tape. | ||
| 98.9 KJFK FM Radio. | ||
| We appreciate 98.9 KJFK FM, the last stand-alone station here in town. | ||
| They are All Talk FM Radio, and they're about free speech. | ||
| So thank you, 98.9 KJFK FM. I am a host on 98.9 KJFK FM, and my show sponsors this show. | ||
| My show is every Saturday evening from 7 to 11 p.m., every Saturday evening. | ||
| So again, I want to thank KJFK. Let's go ahead and go to tape, and Mike Runyon will be back, and we will take your phone calls right after this. | ||
| Back in 15, 20 minutes. | ||
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April 19th, 1998. Five years after. | |
| The murder of children. | ||
| We were just reading the Austin American statement. | ||
| It never talks about the children. | ||
| It talks about David Koresh being some sort of cult leader. | ||
| Of course, the media doesn't want to discuss Waco rules of engagement. | ||
| And I was surprised that it was nominated for an Academy Award, but of course it didn't win. | ||
| We're coming out here to help keep the memory alive of the butchery, the murder. | ||
| Because Bill Clinton was insecure and wanted to flex his muscles, and the BATF wanted more funding, they wanted to raise the American people's consciousness about cults and out-of-control organizations of this nature. | ||
| So they surrounded the place, opened fire with helicopters, and then 51 days later set it on fire, hit teams inside, and murdered the people. | ||
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Those that tried to escape were machine guns from outside. | |
| Only a couple people got out alive, and that's because they came out the front where they had cameras. | ||
| We're fixing to show you everything out there and get a lot of important interviews. | ||
| This is the Freedom Report. | ||
| Just one point I wanted to make real fast. | ||
| I forgot. | ||
| And, of course, it is escape, not escape. | ||
| I'm a good Texan here, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| This is Alex Jones talking to you one more time. | ||
| One small point I did want to make, actually a large point. | ||
| I think actually more children died at Waco than died in Oklahoma City. | ||
| And both are equally terrible both. | ||
| Both examples of government terrorism were terrible. | ||
| But the point that we have to understand and be conscious of here, before we get back to this, is you didn't hardly hear anything about the children. | ||
| You didn't hear their names read out. | ||
| But on all the networks, that's all I saw Sunday night on April 19th. | ||
| Disgusting behavior. | ||
| Alright, back to the video. | ||
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I know there's certain of you that have come here for the first time in five years because it's been too painful. | |
| You didn't even know. | ||
| I understand that. | ||
| But I would encourage you to take it and use it and find the answers for those questions coming from those dead children. | ||
| The question then becomes one of, why April 19th? | ||
| Why was April 19th so significant that the FBI felt compelled to take the actions that they took? | ||
| There's never been a good answer for that. | ||
| Jeff Jamar in the congressional hearings stated categorically that the reason why April 19th was picked was because the weather was good. | ||
| Well, if you're putting gas into a building, having a high-velocity wind operative that could dissipate the gas doesn't mean that the weather was good. | ||
| It means that it was bad. | ||
| So what did he mean the weather was good? | ||
| Was it good for a fire? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It was very conducive for an arson fire, but it wasn't very good for inserting gas that day. | ||
| So what did Jeff Tamar mean? | ||
| No one that wound up inevitably causing the death of all these people. | ||
| Who was ultimately responsible? | ||
| Agents of the FBI, agents of the federal government, and the military. | ||
| They were ultimately responsible for the deaths of all these people. | ||
| One more question. | ||
| What would you say the general public thinks? | ||
| Who does the general public think is at fault? | ||
| Well, I think the general public is in a state of confusion. | ||
| Unfortunately, yourself and the rest of the media haven't helped that much in terms of clarifying that state of confusion. | ||
| But I think that they're concerned about... | ||
| Yeah, who did kill the kids? | ||
| I think that the questions that are contained in the film are questions that everyone needs to answer, including yourself. | ||
| Who killed the children? | ||
| The bottom line becomes one of you have a personal obligation as a citizen. | ||
| You have a dual obligation as a reporter to find out what went on. | ||
| And what bothers me is that the media allows people like Buck Revell or Bob Ricks To answer questions about the issues raised in my film. | ||
| And these gentlemen haven't even seen the film. | ||
| And yet they spout off like they have. | ||
| And you don't nail them for it. | ||
| You ought to. | ||
| The other thing that I find disturbing is that very few people in the media have seen the film. | ||
| And yet they'll sit there and pontificate for hours about what's good or bad about it. | ||
| Well, see the film, answer the questions. | ||
| And that goes for any citizen. | ||
| See the film, answer the questions. | ||
| His film, documentary, Waco Rules of Engagement, was up for an Academy Award and I think it should have won. | ||
| It is one of the best documentaries I've ever seen. | ||
| It methodically documents the hysteria in our government. | ||
| Mr. McNulty, I want to thank you for doing this interview. | ||
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You're welcome. | |
| Do you think this is going to come out? | ||
| Why are you making a second documentary? | ||
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Well, the first film certainly raised all the right questions. | |
| It didn't always have all of the answers. | ||
| I've spent some additional time and effort in trying to get better answers to the questions. | ||
| Who shot first on February 28? | ||
| Was there really gunfire from the helicopters? | ||
| Did the FBI shoot at the Branch Davidians on April the 19th in spite of their protestations? | ||
| Who were the people at the back of the building shooting at the Branch Davidians on April the 19th? | ||
| What was involved with the explosion on the top of the bunker? | ||
| During the course of the fire, how was the evidence handled or mishandled in the following investigation? | ||
| Questions like that. | ||
| So we get to deal with those issues and hopefully when we've dealt with them, we're in the process of making that film and I'm finding very little cooperation from people who were involved. | ||
| People like Bob Ricks or Jeff Chamar or Dick Rodgers. | ||
| He was head of the FBI at that operation, correct? | ||
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No, Jeff Jamar was. | |
| And Bob Ricks, he was? | ||
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He was the public spokesperson that you saw in all the news. | |
| Okay, so he was the public spokesperson for the FBI. Right. | ||
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And basically, trying to get those people to cooperate now has been like pulling teeth. | |
| They're not interested. | ||
| Well, I can appreciate why they might not be, but the fact of the matter is, these are the same fellows that are out bad-mouthing my film, and I think it's only appropriate first that they see the film before they bad-mouth it. | ||
| And then once they've had that opportunity, that they also spend some time answering the questions raised in the film, as opposed to just being critical in sort of a general haphazard way. | ||
| Mr. McNulty, I have seen your documentary when it premiered in Austin, Texas to a packed house at the Dovey at UT, and I was ashamed that our newspaper didn't do a front cover story. | ||
| They did it in the movie section, and they said it showed troubling information, showed... | ||
| Federal agents firing from their sniper points and actually up right next to the church or what the media would call the compound. | ||
| I know some new documentation coming out that's even worse than just the feds firing at women and children as they tried to exit the burning building through the cafeteria area. | ||
| Now is it true that some documentation is coming out, if you want to go ahead and release this, I've heard it from others, that they actually sent in hit squads? | ||
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I don't think so. | |
| You don't think they sent in a hit squad? | ||
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No, I don't think I'm going to release any information right now under these circumstances. | |
| Basically, we will have new information in the film. | ||
| People will be able to judge for themselves as to what went on and why it went on and who was responsible. | ||
| But no, I don't think I want to talk about that too much right now. | ||
| Due to their arrogance, they ignored this powerful information and now it's gotten pretty big and they're starting to panic. | ||
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I don't know if panic's the right word, but certainly they've begun to pay attention where they hadn't for the past year and a half. | |
| And ultimately, all that tells me is these fellas have got something on their mind. | ||
| And I have contacted them recently, like Bob Ricks, and given them the opportunity to speak their peace, you know, to state their side of the story. | ||
| And they refuse to do so. | ||
| So in my mind, all that tells me is they've got something to hide. | ||
| So if that's the case, then shame on them. | ||
| What went on here and the fact that it wasn't documented by the media the way it should have been probably has something to do with why you have a TV show and a radio show. | ||
| You're not exactly mainline. | ||
| But on the other hand, the birth of that type of communication is a good thing because it gives the mainline media something to think about next time they want to Kowtow to the people of the Justice Department for fear of losing news sources. | ||
| So perhaps it's a good thing, and perhaps there is good that's come out of the situation at Wake Up. | ||
| In your opinion, who was it firing the automatic weapons? | ||
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Who was firing the automatic weapons at the back of the building on April 19th will be revealed in the new film. | |
| In terms of, do I have any idea why the media isn't doing their job? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You have to go ask them. | ||
| That's what you ought to be doing right now, is asking these guys why they haven't done their job relative to that. | ||
| Well, they're just errand boys. | ||
| They're just out getting the footage. | ||
| It gets cut up back home. | ||
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Yeah, and what you have to do is go and find the editors. | |
| I've done it. | ||
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And put them on camera and ask them, why is it you haven't run these stories? | |
| Yes, sir. | ||
| Thanks a lot. | ||
| I'm serious. | ||
| Have you seen Waco Roseman Gage? | ||
| You have? | ||
| So you have seen the inventor, the man that holds three of the patents, three of the four patents, I thought it was fascinating. | ||
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I thought it was a different perspective than I had heard before. | |
| I don't know that I will base Any definite opinion on it, but I thought it was interesting. | ||
| I thought it was a different perspective and it taught me something I didn't know before. | ||
| Well, are you aware that our Secretary of Defense, William Cohen, just created 10 regional teams to work with local law enforcement? | ||
| That is absolutely unconstitutional, and they're doing anti-terrorism training all around the country. | ||
| Are you aware that General Benton-Pardon, ex-head of Air Force Weapons Development, says that Oklahoma City was done with pinpoint strikes inside the building? | ||
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No, I wasn't aware about that. | |
| Right up there on the podium, here at the five-year remembrance of the slaughter here is Ramsey Clark, ex-Attorney General of the United States of America. | ||
| And he is there telling you that we are under federal control. | ||
| The military is training with local law enforcement. | ||
| This is absolute police state. | ||
| Nazi Germany is right upon us. | ||
| But this time it's going to be not racial, but environmental and socialist. | ||
| It's the real deal, ladies and gentlemen, and you can't deny it. | ||
| Clark, he was Attorney General. | ||
| During LBJ's administration, and he said some very stunning information that a lot of us in the freedom movement know about, but a lot of people out there in the mainstream because of the press don't know about. | ||
| He was talking about the growing police state. | ||
| Sir, would you like to make some comments on that? | ||
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Well, our government has become the greatest purveyor of violence on earth, as Dr. King said it was in 1967. But today it's gone beyond all reasonable bounds. | |
| Two range people like the School for the Americas to go into Chiapas, Mexico and kill Mayan Indians who were starving to death with our NAFTA thing that's driven their corn off the market because they can't compete with us and can't sell their surplus corn to make a little money to buy some water purifiers so their kids don't get sick and die from polluted water. | ||
| Here at home you see things like Waco, which show that we carry over our militarism right into our churches to assault church people. | ||
| Well, yes, sir. | ||
| My first question is, or my first statement about this is, is you're absolutely right. | ||
| I mean, we have military training, people in black ski masks, with the MJTF, Morbid Jurisdictional Task Forces, training directly with our local law enforcement in Austin, Texas, where I'm from, and I found out that this is a nationwide movement. | ||
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Sure it is. | |
| And the sad part is, you know, the cop is supposed to be our friend on the beat. | ||
| He's the one who gets the cat out of the tree and takes care of the lost kids and stops someone from burglarizing a home and stuff like that. | ||
| Instead, they love to be SWAT team, you know? | ||
| It's the thin blue line. | ||
| They're teaching them. | ||
| In fact, I've heard police... | ||
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It's a pretty thick blue line right now. | |
| I've done interviews at protests and things, and the police walk up and say, stay behind the demarcation line. | ||
| And you'll hear them talking. | ||
| Watch the civilians. | ||
| They're using military terminology. | ||
| Is this dangerous? | ||
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Of course it's dangerous. | |
| The paramilitary concept of police is a police state, you know. | ||
| And our constitution was created to prevent a police state. | ||
| Yet our police expenditures, our creation of the fear of crime and the belief that you can solve crime by more prisons, by the death penalty, and by beating people in the head is crazy. | ||
| It's just war with our own society, and you see it come to a head at a peaceful church outside of Waco, Texas, Mount Carmel. | ||
| And just to talk a little bit more about the police state, and I appreciate you doing this interview, Mr. Clark. | ||
| That is the dangerous part about it. | ||
| Eisenhower, Kennedy, many others warned us about the military-industrial complex, and now since we've dominated the whole planet, they are now still selling fear, but now they're selling fear of the American people. | ||
| They are making us the enemy. | ||
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Well, I think that's right. | |
| The prison population in Texas is the worst of all, in many ways. | ||
| No free society tells people, do what we say or we'll kill you. | ||
| Yes. | ||
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I mean, that's the mentality of a police state. | |
| Well, Mr. Clark, just a couple more questions. | ||
| Again, Attorney General in the LBJ administration, and you also worked in the Kennedy and the Carter administration? | ||
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I worked eight years at Kennedy Johnson. | |
| I did one assignment, maybe two, for... | ||
| President Carter, the first one having to do with the hostages. | ||
| I was mistaken. | ||
| I got up in front of the podium and got it mixed up. | ||
| But the thing that I don't think that the American public realizes is that this military training is going on. | ||
| What are some things that we can do to get this reversed, hopefully? | ||
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Well, I think we have to resist at every level. | |
| If you don't work at the national level, you can't expect the local level. | ||
| I mean, after all, we're providing a lot of federal funds for the local level, and they love it. | ||
| And that brings control? | ||
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It brings control. | |
| It brings technology. | ||
| It brings things they don't need, you know? | ||
| Infrared. | ||
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Who needed tanks out here? | |
| Yeah, you've got everything that billions and billions of dollars of research and development to provide the military are now being... | ||
| It's going into civilian control. | ||
| Have you seen Waco Rules of Engagement? | ||
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Sure. | |
| It's horrifying, isn't it? | ||
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It's horrifying. | |
| The whole story is even more horrifying. | ||
| Sir, I didn't... | ||
| I didn't actually see this last year, but I heard about it, reported, and some of the alternative press. | ||
| Is it true that last year you spoke about how the Trilateral Commission is running the country? | ||
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Well, I've criticized the Trilateral Commission for many years, but I don't really think the Trilateral Commission is running the country. | |
| The CFR? I think the same people are... | ||
| Let's roll it. | ||
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The same people that run the CFR, the Council on Foreign Relations, and the Trilateral... | |
| Those are just front groups. | ||
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Sure. | |
| I mean, they're just... | ||
| Meeting houses. | ||
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They're organizations through which they implement their power, and it's an international group that maintains power through the multinational corporations and the media and all the rest. | |
| Yes, sir. | ||
| And wouldn't you say that now what you have is corporate socialism for them and slavery for us? | ||
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Well, you've got corporate wealth for them. | |
| They don't... | ||
| It's called stealing. | ||
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It could be called stealing, although it's stealing on such a grand scale that you'd have to call it grand larceny, I think. | |
| Well, propaganda is one of the main means. | ||
| They employ demonization, fear of crime, and things like that. | ||
| But every individual... | ||
| The Gillian principle? | ||
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Every individual has an obligation to be involved in this struggle if you want to live free and want your children who come after to live free. | |
| You can't be a bystander. | ||
| And right now we really risk the spread of militarization throughout the world that is endangering the poor everywhere. | ||
| It's a desire to control by force. | ||
| There's so many people and so much poverty and there's so much technology that can destroy people that it's being employed against people everywhere. | ||
| The poor here, the poor nations abroad, so we have to work on... | ||
| Slashing our military budget to the bare bones. | ||
| It ought to be slashed 90%. | ||
| We've got to cut back on all hardware for police. | ||
| Police ought to serve the people, not be a force. | ||
| It shouldn't be a paramilitary concept. | ||
| It ought to be a social service concept that deals sensitively. | ||
| We have to deal with the basic problems. | ||
| While we have poverty, we're going to have the problems that poverty creates. | ||
| Poverty is the mother of crime. | ||
| Plato told us that 2,500 years ago, and it was pretty obvious then. | ||
| It's pretty obvious now. | ||
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I have one more speaker that I'd like to introduce. | |
| And he didn't even know he was going to talk here today. | ||
| But it's the talk show host that put together the busload of people that came up from Austin, Texas. | ||
| He's on radio station KJFK in Austin. | ||
| Does a program called The Real Spin. | ||
| His name is Alex Jones. | ||
| Alex well it's hard to speak after Ramsey Clark attorney general You hear what he was just telling you? | ||
| There is a massive consolidation of local police departments under federal control, the Multi-Jurisdictional Task Force and the JTF-6, which is based at Fort Bliss, Texas. | ||
| They wear black ski masks. | ||
| They train in military tactics. | ||
| And they are the big gun and the long arm of the IRS. And the criminal system that is running this nation. | ||
| Make no mistake, the murders of these people and these children was about one thing and one thing only. | ||
| It was about terrorism against the American people. | ||
| It was about testing and pushing the limits to see if the government could surround a group, if they could kill those people and burn it to the ground. | ||
| Waco rules of engagement. | ||
| It shows the automatic weapons fire as men and women tried to edge at the back of the building. | ||
| That's where most of the bodies were found, right in the edge. | ||
| Hit squads, military black ops, the same ones that destroy Oklahoma City, just like Hitler burnt the Reichstag in 1933. I mean, where is our country when ex-Attorney Generals of the United States of America are here telling you that Reno and the rest of them and the Republicans and the Democrats are all the same people? | ||
| I mean, it just makes my heart swell with pride that we do have people like Ramsey Clark and others, and this whole crowd out here that is standing in defiance of tyranny. | ||
| And I'll take a line from that movie, Braveheart. | ||
| What would you give, dying in your bed all these years from now, to have just once stood up in defiance of tyranny, to put on the armor and to ride out on the field against the enemy? | ||
| And violence is not the way to go. | ||
| They are the ones that use violence. | ||
| They are the ones that are dangerous. | ||
| Understand that. | ||
| We've got to use information like Waco Rules of Engagement. | ||
| I mean, that documentary is so powerful because it doesn't exaggerate. | ||
| It doesn't lie. | ||
| For three hours, it lays out the information for you to see. | ||
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And where is the mainstream media editing this information out? | |
| You have federal agents. | ||
| Killing men, women, and children. | ||
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They came that day and opened fire first. | |
| Helicopters came in and assaulted. | ||
| And now we find out, and it's going to come out in the next documentary, and think about this, that they sent in death squads with breathing apparatus to kill those people inside because they couldn't have any witnesses of what really happened on the first day of the 51-day standoff. | ||
| So we're dealing with murder. | ||
| We're dealing with terrorism against the American people, and this is nothing new in the history of the world. | ||
| Authoritarian regimes always seek to control the modes of finance, the printing of money, transportation, food production, you name it, it's all coming under federal control under the guise of environmentalism, which is nothing but a cult now. | ||
| It's very, very serious. | ||
| Somebody has got to stand up. | ||
| More people have got to stand up. | ||
| FEMA, under Senate Resolution 21, is building hundreds of concentration camps on military bases, set up for families, areas for men, areas for women, areas for women with children, and areas for men who have families on the other side of the camp, and by the way, they have triple the guard towers, and I have played this many times on my television show. | ||
| It's just out of control. | ||
| I have congressmen on tape, Henry B. Gonzalez and others admitting this. | ||
| Look at the world. | ||
| And then I'm going to get off there because others have a lot more to say than me. | ||
| Hitler killed 40 million. | ||
| The communists in Russia killed about 100 million. | ||
| The communist Chinese, we're not sure, 100, 200 million. | ||
| And it's still going on. | ||
| We're buying slave goods from these people. | ||
| They're moving into Long Beach Naval Base. | ||
| They're moving into the high desert of California at Victorville and Atalanto and building 20 mini-malls to bring in slave goods directly. | ||
| This is a de-industrialization of our... | ||
| And it is just... | ||
| It is just sick what's happening to our country, and people have got to stand up against it if freedom is going to survive. | ||
| And the plans are there. | ||
| Make no mistake, but don't be fearful. | ||
| People that lay down. | ||
| I mean, ask yourself, how did the Germans allow Hitler to come to power? | ||
| They believed it's propaganda. | ||
| Most of the death camps were off in Poland. | ||
| Keep it away. | ||
| Keep it on military bases. | ||
| Keep it behind closed doors. | ||
| This is what's happening. | ||
| Make no mistake. | ||
| And the mainstream media is going around. | ||
| Last week in Austin, a mainstream media station went out and had reporters on the street asking, where will terrorists strike next? | ||
| They're introducing this into this psychology. | ||
| They're creating a new cosmology of fear and preparing people for terrorism. | ||
| And I just want to warn you one more time. | ||
| State-sponsored terrorism is the number one brand worldwide. | ||
| Oklahoma City was terrorism. | ||
| What happened right here where I'm standing in Waco back in 1993 on April 19th with state-sponsored terrorism. | ||
| It was a test to see if you'd lay down. | ||
| And I'm telling you something, they're taken back now because their propaganda and their lives worked for a while, but you see that the polls are changing. | ||
| More and more people are waking up to what's happening. | ||
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So I want to challenge you to talk to 10 people a week. | |
| Get them to see Waco Rules of Engagement. | ||
| I have nothing to do with this document. | ||
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What's coming up next is a confrontation with an FBI agent. | |
| Get it into congressman's hands, your friend's hands, judges in your local cities, because this can be a revelation to the people of America, to the people that just want to be pragmatic, to the people that are just relativists, and don't care as long as charity doesn't come knocking on their door. | ||
| And I'll just paraphrase this. | ||
| We've all heard the, uh... | ||
| Famous quotes and statements. | ||
| When they came for the Jews, they didn't come for me, so I left it alone. | ||
| When they came for the Catholics, when they came for all these different groups, I stayed there. | ||
| And finally, when they came for me, there was nobody left to stand up for me. | ||
| This is the real deal. | ||
| This is human history. | ||
| This is not some foggy conspiracy theory. | ||
| I have to tell you, three years ago, four years ago, I thought what happened at Waco was wrong. | ||
| But I thought, I mean, I believed a little bit of the propaganda. | ||
| I thought, well, you know, this and that. | ||
| And the more I studied this, the more I found out it's worse than even what Waco Rules of Engagement or J51 had to offer. | ||
| And that's why I'm glad that they're coming out with a new documentary, because this is what it's going to take. | ||
| It's going to take information to the public. | ||
| Information is power. | ||
| So stop reacting and start acting and stand up against... | ||
| This police state, or we're going into 100% taxation, 100% tyranny. | ||
| And just because it's packaged sweetly and has a nice, flashy exterior, the interior is barbed, wire, and pure slavery. | ||
| Thank you all for being here Thanks Alex Later that day we walked on up the road to the church area where the families were burned to death and I saw one of the FBI Hostage negotiators one of the slime balls over there talking about how Koresh had live hand grenades I'm sorry. | ||
| I watched the Senate hearings. | ||
| I read the court transcripts. | ||
| Those were paperweights, sir. | ||
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He was over there acting like the good FBI agent that said there was some problems. | |
| Then the media began to get smart-mouthed with me. | ||
| And I got so angry, I didn't even have some of my information, but I heard him over there lying, and I just had to tell him what I thought of him. | ||
| Here is that actual confrontation. - We saw it. | ||
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We have live hand grenade with old England covered as well. | |
| Of course, right out here in front was where the-- - That didn't come out in the trial. | ||
| You're some kind of provocateur. | ||
| In fact, you're one of those FBI agents, aren't you? | ||
| I don't personally, I don't give a damn. | ||
| Oh, you're not going to do anything to me. | ||
| These people are murderers. | ||
| These people are murderers. | ||
| I'm sick and tired of hearing your lies when you machine gunned a bunch of men, women, and children. | ||
| You got a big problem, buddy. | ||
| You sit over here. | ||
| I'm not afraid of you guys. | ||
| I'm a law-abiding citizen, and I'm sick of it. | ||
| You sit over here and you talk about how the children huddle in the corner and how the ammunition that they had is what killed them, all the rest of your garbage. | ||
| You ought to be ashamed of yourself. | ||
| You don't stand up for the Constitution. | ||
| You stand for zip, not a zero. | ||
| I heard that. | ||
| You have no calm aplomb. | ||
| It's false, my friend. | ||
| And let me tell you, a lot of people are writing down your names. | ||
| You can follow people around. | ||
| You can harass people. | ||
| You can back up your banks, your buddies. | ||
| But a revolution of peaceful information is coming. | ||
| And when it comes time, you people are going to be brought to punishment. | ||
| You understand? | ||
| Just like Nuremberg. | ||
| Just taking orders doesn't cut it, my friend. | ||
| You understand me? | ||
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I think I've assessed you. | |
| Yeah, oh, you've assessed me. | ||
| Listen, you can sit there and say some kind of little joke. | ||
| All your texts put garbage, my friend. | ||
| I got people like General Parton, ex-head of Air Force Weapons Development. | ||
| We know the federal government destroyed Oklahoma. | ||
| It's proven. | ||
| We know what you guys are engaged in, just like Hitler burnt the Reichstag. | ||
| We know you brought Nazis over here through the rat line to set up our CIA after the OSS. So you can't sit here. | ||
| You can assess me all day. | ||
| I want you to assess me. | ||
| I've assessed you. | ||
| A smiley face slime ball that sits here in soft pedals and tries to placate the media. | ||
| Waco Rules of Engagement shows your agents machine gunning men, women, and children as they tried to exit. | ||
| One of the inventors of flare technology, they didn't have 500,000 rounds of ammunition. | ||
| I just talked to Clive Doyle. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
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And Clive is the expert on the total number of pieces of ammo. | |
| Yes. | ||
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Oh, he is? | |
| Yes. | ||
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Well, Clive's the one who invited me here. | |
| That is lie number one. | ||
| We talked to Clive Doyle, and he did not invite this gentleman there. | ||
| Clive Doyle is one of the surviving Branch Davidians. | ||
| And then lie number two is the fact that this FBI negotiator, who was there during 51 days, sits up there and says sarcastically that, oh, Clive Doyle was the expert. | ||
| You couldn't fit 500,000 rounds of ammunition in a small room above the storage area. | ||
| This guy just sits up there. | ||
| And acts like Mr. Loving and Mr. Caring to the media. | ||
| Yes, he sits up there and does that. | ||
| The reason I blew up was that as I walked up, I saw him talking about live grenades that Koresh had that caused explosions. | ||
| And that's when I blew up at him and came marching across to gripe at him. | ||
| Because that's just not true. | ||
| I've seen the court transcripts. | ||
| I've seen documentaries. | ||
| I've seen the Senate hearings that were whitewashed. | ||
| And that came out that they were paperweights. | ||
| Guy's a liar. | ||
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That's what they're paying to do. | |
| It's hard to say. | ||
| There's probably some good ones, but it's time for them to be speaking up. | ||
| Like Frederick Whitehurst. | ||
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Like Frederick Whitehurst. | |
| Look what happened to him. | ||
| He blew a whistle and, well, he's finally back to work, but he all but lost his job. | ||
| I want to make a comment about something. | ||
| Well, they won't lie back at the FBI crime lab anymore even though he used to head it up. | ||
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The rest of his days at the FBI are probably going to be real unpleasant, but at least he spoke up. | |
| They kicked him out at first, but he won a $1.6 million lawsuit. | ||
| What happened is, as I talk to people, and some people seem to think that I was saying about the CIA base that the statesman talked about, how wonderful it is, how the people love it because it created 40 jobs. | ||
| Jobs are a great thing. | ||
| People need jobs in this country. | ||
| And they said the economy is so great, it's great right now during the money manipulation, but it's not too good for most people working a lot of 9 to 5 jobs, taking extra jobs and paying taxes. | ||
| You know, the IRS goes mainly after middle class and lower middle class people. | ||
| It goes after people that aren't poor, but aren't rich and aren't wealthy, that are just making enough to try to send their kids to college or try to pay off the house. | ||
| And the rich people got the lawyers and the power to get out of the tax system. | ||
| We need a lower tax system in this country. | ||
| And those that would say that I was insulting people that work, I'm sorry if that was misunderstood. | ||
| I'm saying that people that take jobs at CIA bases where they train terrorists, like in North Carolina, what was the name of that camp? | ||
| It just came out in the States a couple weeks ago, three weeks ago now. | ||
| Time flies. | ||
| You shouldn't take a job working for the spooks. | ||
| A lot of good people try to get out of the spooks and they've been killed or they've been railroaded or put in prison. | ||
| It's become totally corrupt. | ||
| And I don't like to talk about the most powerful mafia organization in the world. | ||
| It's dangerous, but it's true. | ||
| Want to take some calls? | ||
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Sure. | |
| Were you going to say something? | ||
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No. | |
| We've kind of been around the whole... | ||
| The whole gamut tonight, but there's so much going on. | ||
| I mean, if you miss one day, it's hard to catch. | ||
| A couple weeks ago, Madeleine Albright, what state was it that she was saying should follow? | ||
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Oh, yeah, Virginia was going to execute a guy, and she was from Paraguay, and he murdered some lady and her kid, and she was trying to put a halt to that, to the execution. | |
| Some kind of sovereignty or something. | ||
| I forget the angle she was using. | ||
| They executed him anyway. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| Madeleine Albright is a grandfather's guy named Joseph Kerbell, who was one of Stalin's right-hand guys. | ||
| Just because her grandfather was a communist, that's okay. | ||
| She's our Secretary of State. | ||
| Well, what it comes down to is the UN... We have pictures of them cutting children's heads off, burning people, making children eat worms and vomit. | ||
| This was first published again in a real liberal publication, Village Voice, and then in the supposed right-wing New American. | ||
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New American. | |
| And there's actually been some convictions in the countries once they found out about it, Belgium and Italy, but the UN... Well, Canada disbanded that unit. | ||
| Well, let's... | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Let's talk about Kirk Valtheim, Secretary General of the United Nations from 1972-1982. | ||
| One of the founders of the U.N., he was a top-level SS officer. | ||
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Yeah, they somehow didn't catch that until he was up for his reappointment or whatever. | |
| They try their best to defend them, and they're constantly looking for good PR, whereas they're doing stuff in Rwanda like bringing the Tutsis in for showers at a safe camp, then they all leave at night and let the Hutus in to kill them and throw them in the river. | ||
| Because oil companies wanted that property. | ||
| I mean, this is how it works. | ||
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Like, Congo, they wanted... | |
| Somehow, miraculously, this diamond mining company from Arkansas got the contract after Kabila took over the Congo. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's just a coincidence. | ||
| So, that probably doesn't have anything to do with our friend in the White House. | ||
| So, there you have it. | ||
| Clinton's just an agent. | ||
| It's just the enemy's accelerating things, so their agents are going to be worse and worse. | ||
| It's not really Clinton. | ||
| He's just somebody that loves to absorb the punishment, and they love him. | ||
| He's a sociopath, probably psychotic, a known coke fiend. | ||
| I was going to run a documentary on that, but we have some other information we had to get out. | ||
| I'll put it on replay. | ||
| It's called None Dare Call It Murder. | ||
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No, he won't give up his medical records. | |
| I tell you, access television is just an incredible asset to be able to put this information out to the public. | ||
| I'm going to do something, Mike. | ||
| I'm going to let you take some calls. | ||
| There was one piece I forgot left out in the car, and I want to see how you're doing here. | ||
| I'm going to put this right here. | ||
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You forgot to show me how to work that deal. | |
| It's just real fast. | ||
| All you do is, is when you want to put somebody on air, tell you what, the crew in there, my excellent crew, will take the calls for you. | ||
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Yeah, we'll do it for you. | |
| I'll be back in about ten minutes. | ||
| I'm going to go get a tape and cue it up of the newscast. | ||
| You saw what people were really talking about out there at Waco. | ||
| Producers of films and other things. | ||
| Attorney generals. | ||
| And FBI front men out there soft-pedaling things. | ||
| You saw what was really going on out there. | ||
| In a few minutes, about 10 minutes after some calls, we're going to show you what the news says. | ||
| Mike, you go ahead. | ||
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All righty. | |
| Hello, caller. | ||
| We'll go ahead and go to the caller. | ||
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Caller, you're in the air. | |
| Yeah, one thing I wanted to say was, I just moved here from the Chicago area, and you guys aren't a lone boy from the wilderness. | ||
| And there's other people talking about parallel things, which you guys are talking about on your show here. | ||
| Bring up the same things, like, even the matter with them, with the Waco situation, they could have easily arrested Corrish when he was doing his morning jogging like that. | ||
| There was no reason really to do this, what they did, you know, going through and killing everybody. | ||
| They could just caught me on the morning jog and arrest them and put them in the van. | ||
| That would have solved it. | ||
| Well, the sheriff didn't even have a problem. | ||
| I mean, the sheriff had been out there numerous times, never had a problem with them. | ||
| The Child Protective Service had investigated and didn't find anything wrong. | ||
| You know, that was one of the pretexts they used was they were abusing children. | ||
| The other was the meth lab, supposedly, and that was... | ||
| There was allegedly a meth lab there back when that Roden guy was involved. | ||
| But just the whole deal. | ||
| I mean, the other reason why they had to burn the place down is because they had bullet holes going through the front door and also through the roof. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Just some other things, too. | ||
| Like when I was living up there, they have a lot more tighter laws on guns and like that in Illinois, especially in the city of Chicago there. | ||
| I mean, you can't really own a handgun, and even if you have a simple rifle or shotgun, you have to have it. | ||
| And caller, they have higher crime, don't they? | ||
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Yes, they do. | |
| Because then only the criminals have guns. | ||
| See, law-abiding citizens will follow the law. | ||
| When you hang a sign at your business that says, no concealed, you're saying to all criminals, you don't have to case this joint. | ||
| There's no one in here with guns. | ||
| Come on in. | ||
| Kill us. | ||
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| Yeah, and one particular issue, there was a gentleman, actually it was a church pastor. | ||
| There was a guy breaking into the church trying to find money like that. | ||
| The guy shot him with like a regular shotgun. | ||
| And they went after him on charges for having an unregistered rifle. | ||
| Wasn't there a big ATF scandal up there in Chicago? | ||
| I think there was. | ||
| I mean, I can't recall a particular sign or anything. | ||
| And also, wasn't that where that lady and her husband, the president, had come into town for some function and that lady told him he sucked and they came back and hit the Secret Service? | ||
| Held them in custody for a day or two? | ||
| Yeah, there was something with Clinton. | ||
| Well, that was with Clinton, right? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, I remember that. | ||
| And they had a little bit of ruckus. | ||
| Actually, it was kind of a funny way they did things for the Democratic Convention there, too. | ||
| I bet that was interesting. | ||
| How they had everything routed off, and it was really manipulated well from their end. | ||
| Because they kept, really, the protest down, and Mayor Daley Taylor was a great success and everything in comparison to the 68 convention where they had a lot of mayhem and people getting killed by their local police there and like that. | ||
| I tell you, it's chilling. | ||
| There's several people. | ||
| There was a guy that was at one of his stage town hall meetings, and he asked him a question that they hadn't pre-screened, and it wasn't confrontational. | ||
| Questioning one of his policies, and they put this guy in jail for a couple days. | ||
| That really puts you on edge there, trying to do something without any pretense of malice or anything, just to bring open a subject or ask a legit question there. | ||
| And, you know, another thing is, guys, we're talking about seeing certain threats and scenarios coming up, say, like with the Depression of 1929 leading up to World War II and like that. | ||
| One of the things made me think in regards to communism like that, right after, you know, like in 19, right after 1917, like that, when communism, you know, when Lenin took over Russia and like that, there's one Czech writer, an author named Carl Czapak. | ||
| He was a very big critic of, you know, this is when... | ||
| When they first formed Czechoslovakia, and he was a critic, and he pointed out communism wasn't the empowerment of the people. | ||
| It was a tyranny over the people. | ||
| And this is someone that's just, you know, considered not a politician, but he was more like a playwright and an author of books and like that. | ||
| He even wrote a play called RUR, and that's where we get the American word robot from. | ||
| And that play's about, you know, international industrialization going amok and everything. | ||
| I mean, people should, you know, try to read that. | ||
| That's where Robot came from? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| It came from a Czech word when they translated the Czech script. | ||
| And that play came out in the early 1920s. | ||
| How far was De Plains, Illinois, from where you live? | ||
| Well, De Plains, or they call it Death Plains there. | ||
| It's like a northwest suburb over by O'Hare Airport. | ||
| Did you hear about the urban combat training drill that they had there in the middle of the night, one night, about three years ago? | ||
| Yeah, I heard, you know, they had real general things. | ||
| There's a guy up there that has a radio station up there that keeps, you know, on tasks and such things. | ||
| One of the things I found disturbing was There was a questionnaire given to military personnel whether they would engage against U.S. civilians or not. | ||
| Right, the 29 Palms questionnaire. | ||
| Yeah, and is that still in existence? | ||
| I've got a friend that's making copies. | ||
| If you go to the next gun show, you'll get a copy of that. | ||
| He's making copies of that text. | ||
| He's got the whole deal. | ||
| He's sent off for the whole... | ||
| This guy wrote a thesis, Guy Cunningham. | ||
| All right. | ||
| And there was 26% of the Marines that took this questionnaire at 29 Palms that said that if they had to, they'd fire on U.S. citizens. | ||
| That's pretty scary. | ||
| They're just without any cause. | ||
| What do you think about NATO expansion? | ||
| Just to sell more arms. | ||
| I mean, NATO was created to stop the Communist bloc, and now we're letting all of... | ||
| You know, now they're democracies, whatever that's supposed to mean. | ||
| I don't hear them mention anything about, you know, freedom and liberty. | ||
| Just, you know, keep using the word democracy. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, they've got a lot of people brainwashed on that, and like up there, they've got a lot of people, you know, Polish people from Poland like that, or with Polish relatives still tied there to their old country, and they're really, some are really sold on it. | ||
| But the thing is, those people have to, you know, they have to keep certain clothes and they have to put so much of their money into NATO. And, you know, if we want to have these people try to at least stand on their own two feet where they can generate their own economy and enterprise instead of plucking more money back into a military system. | ||
| And next thing you know, we're liable to have Russia joining NATO. Who knows? | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Well, what else? | ||
| You got anything else or think we ought to go to another caller here? | ||
| I appreciate your calling. | ||
| We're going to go to another caller here. | ||
| Hello? | ||
| Hello. | ||
| Hello. | ||
| I'm sorry, I don't even know your name. | ||
| My name is Mike. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Last weekend, one of my girlfriends, she got arrested. | ||
| Well, her boyfriend was driving drunk. | ||
| She got arrested for P.I. Public intoxication. | ||
| And she was handcuffed and put into some kind of cell where there was no bathroom or anything like that. | ||
| Was she in Cedar Park? | ||
| No, I think it was Erin Nelson. | ||
| Okay, because my friend Keith, when he was in Cedar Park jail, there was a lady that was brought in there. | ||
| And she was in a separate cell, but the guys in the drunk tank were giving her a hard time. | ||
| Well, supposedly she just came to me in tears. | ||
| I mean, just when she got out, absolutely in tears. | ||
| Supposedly she went to some kind of cell. | ||
| And she had no facilities. | ||
| She was handcuffed. | ||
| Her boyfriend was, he got into an accident. | ||
| He was a drunk driver, I guess. | ||
| And she was taken in for P.I. | ||
| And handcuffed. | ||
| And for some reason, taken down to this little room. | ||
| And then eventually got out of this room and then went up to some kind of cell or something. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Uh-oh. | ||
| I seem to have lost her. | ||
| We'll put another caller on. | ||
| Call it on the air. | ||
| How are you doing? | ||
| Pretty good. | ||
| Got a question for you regarding the last phone call. | ||
| I have to admit I agree with a lot of things I hear on the show. | ||
| But the last phone call, someone who is in a car with a drunk driver essentially can be an accessory to a crime. | ||
| They could have done the best that they could have to prevent that individual from driving, or they could have gotten out of the car. | ||
| Well, sir, again, I mean, we don't screen phone calls on this show, except occasionally we screen phone calls not for content, but just for phone numbers, and we have been doing that, I think, in months, like six months or so. | ||
| So whoever wants to call in here, we're talking about Keith Campbell, a man that got out of the police department with a good record. | ||
| Was fighting the court systems about social security number and not paying a traffic ticket and was sent to which jail was it? | ||
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The whole deal was he had some legal point. | |
| Which jail was it again? | ||
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It was Cedar Park Jail. | |
| His deal was with Lago Vista. | ||
| And I know him pretty well. | ||
| I've met with him about ten times, have him on the radio show. | ||
| But Mike, you know him very well, and Keith doesn't even hardly talk very much. | ||
| He has a nice wife, nice family. | ||
| And he says that he was in there for two and a half days, was given one meal a day, which is, you know, whatever, and that people had to deprecate on the floor, correct? | ||
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| And coming from a law enforcement official in Williamson County, it's not even an accredited jail. | ||
| This place is... | ||
| I tell you, it needs to be... | ||
| Here we are in Austin, Texas, where all the state investigative agencies are. | ||
| It needs to be investigated. | ||
| You know, again, I agree with what you're talking about. | ||
| And I'm on the same page and I'm on the same subject with you. | ||
| But it seems that in any system, and don't get me wrong, I'm not pro for what's going on. | ||
| You're going to get innocent, okay, in terms of... | ||
| You're gonna have jails where ex-police officers are equipped with force because of corruption, go to jail because they try to fight the court system, and because they don't want to get it where people start fighting traffic tickets, where they called him at home, and where people for two and a half days, he's in a room in a tank with people defecating on the floor and he's in a room in a tank with people defecating on the floor and Right, and we have people running across the border to spat out a baby, We cannot expel them. | ||
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They're therefore citizens, uneducated. | |
| My whole point basically is... | ||
| I applaud you for fighting against it. | ||
| To me, I'm totally apathetic. | ||
| It's like a terminal cancer that is set in in this country. | ||
| That's not true. | ||
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And I applaud you. | |
| That's not true. | ||
| That's not true. | ||
| We can see through it. | ||
| We can do something about it. | ||
| But I would agree that it's pretty bad. | ||
| We may have to lose a leg. | ||
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Well, I'm all for arming the borders, paying the guys $250,000 a year to say, hey, you know... | |
| Sorry, we will shoot at your feet first, but you keep coming and we're going to take you out. | ||
| Well, look, I wouldn't say that immigrants coming across the border is the big problem. | ||
| I mean, I would say that it's bad that when they get here now, instead of being hardworking, and I'm not blaming the immigrants, the government's there trying to get them on welfare and enroll them in the Democratic Party. | ||
| And I'm not a Republican, by the way. | ||
| I used to be a semi-Republican. | ||
| And I think they're just as bad or worse because they offer solutions, but then... | ||
| Well, it's like the 86 tax cut. | ||
| We're going to give you a middle class tax cut, and then they raise taxes on the middle class. | ||
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The borders, all that has been going on for so long, there's no quick, simple deal now. | |
| Oh, of course not. | ||
| And it's some hard-working, there's a lot of hard-working people getting out of there coming up here, and unfortunately, there's some criminals mixed in with them also. | ||
| But no country that has open borders can really call itself a country. | ||
| So, there's a problem. | ||
| Yeah, Alex? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Hey, great show tonight. | |
| I'm trying to make a lot of my friends and relatives aware of some of the ideas you're bringing out, because I believe in a lot of things you believe in. | ||
| Is there a place I can get a copy of the law, the blood and urine test law? | ||
| Are you going to bring that? | ||
| I've had that on the show 50 times. | ||
| It was entered in 1997 in the Federal Register. | ||
| It's planning funds for urine and blood testing of 25% of the population. | ||
| Randomly selected, and everyone under 18? | ||
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It was part of the Immigration Reform Act and also part of the tax reform, or the budget, the 96 budget bill is where it's at also. | |
| Well, could one of you bring it to the Sunday meeting so I can get a copy? | ||
| Yeah, I think I've got a couple copies left. | ||
| You can actually go to a website, and then you have to go to a link off the website. | ||
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Okay. | |
| You have to go to www.atlantainfoguide.com. | ||
| So it's AtlantaInfoGuide.com. | ||
| And then go to their old website once you get there, and they'll have it reprinted there for you, or you can get a link to the government site. | ||
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That was at Cindy Parker gal? | |
| Yeah, Cindy Parker. | ||
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Yeah, they actually put it on hold in Georgia. | |
| Yeah, they're fighting very hard. | ||
| They've got it coming up in the next legislature there, so you can't affect change. | ||
| The problem is that the more we fight, the more victories we have for freedom and lower taxation and less intrusive government and less police state, the more they're going to turn up the heat and perhaps engage in provocateur terrorist acts. | ||
| But I hear CNN, I've been watching, is having a series on militias and things and showing the worst examples or lying and talking about coming terrorism. | ||
| Local media is doing this. | ||
| They're preparing people for it. | ||
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That could be a whole show on provocateurs and all the incidents. | |
| All the groups that have been set up. | ||
| The Aryan Republican Army is controlled by people like Andre Strasmeyer, a known CIA agent. | ||
| His father was a Nazi. | ||
| We brought over thousands of Nazis to run our security forces here after World War II. We brought this upon ourselves. | ||
| Texas Monthly in January had an article about it. | ||
| I couldn't believe it. | ||
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The Wise County deal. | |
| Yes, it was a soft soap deal. | ||
| But it was a whitewash, but it still admitted that the FBI went out and tried to stir out opposing him. | ||
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The grand dragon of the Wise County Ku Klux Klan was on the FBI payroll, and they created, they were going to blow up a gas well to be a diversion to rob an armor. | |
| The whole thing was just, they basically ended up with four toothless morons in prison. | ||
| And this guy's making $1,700 a month from the FBI expense. | ||
| They never loaded a gun. | ||
| They only had a couple of firearms that even came out. | ||
| They didn't even have money for ammunition because they spent it all on alcohol. | ||
| They didn't know how to build bombs, and Spence went out and helped them build a small bottle bomb like I would build. | ||
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And he's been a known informant. | |
| Even the Texas Human Rights Commission and the ADL in Houston say, well, yeah, this guy, we've known this guy for years. | ||
| Well, let me finish where I stand, so some people don't say I'm building bombs. | ||
| When I was a kid going to my grandmother when I was 12 years old, For fun, I would sit there and make a bottle bomb and light it and watch it blow up. | ||
| I mean, it would barely even blow off one of your fingers. | ||
| It's like a big smoking meal. | ||
| He had them go out and make one of those and Spence videotaped these toothless idiots that didn't even know how to build a bottle bomb how to do this. | ||
| There's been a lot of cases like... | ||
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Lampley in Oklahoma. | |
| Star, that's not the... | ||
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Yeah, Star and McCraney in Georgia that they didn't... | |
| ATF provocateurs buried bombs on their property without their knowledge and Star and McCraney are still in prison. | ||
| It goes on and on. | ||
| And that even came out in the hearings, by the way, but it didn't matter. | ||
| The federal judge just... | ||
| Same with the Davidians. | ||
| They were found not guilty, and the federal judge says, well, there's a federal crime here for weapons, even though none of the weapons were illegal. | ||
| And they did that. | ||
| Isn't it incredible? | ||
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Goes on and on. | |
| Where is our friend, the guy that blew up the abortion clinics and all that? | ||
| You notice how he just disappeared off the radar screen? | ||
| The guy from Atlanta? | ||
| They were doing county search. | ||
| I mean, they were going all over people's property looking for this guy, and now he's just disappeared. | ||
| Isn't that amazing? | ||
| Probably found out it was a government agent or something. | ||
| Oh man, let's go to some more calls. | ||
| Hello, you're on the air, caller. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| How are you? | ||
| Fine, thanks. | ||
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I wanted to talk a little bit. | |
| I caught a little piece last night on the Access Channel about the Hernandez boy that was killed down by Big Ben. | ||
| Yes, the goat herder. | ||
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Yes, and I just... | |
| I just can't get over that people wouldn't think that the military running down there along the borderline with guns is not a little bit, you know, strange. | ||
| Well, the problem is that you've got a very tense situation down the border, and the coyotes, the people that smuggle people over, and the bandits that feed off of the poor Mexican peasants. | ||
| That are coming over from the UN biospheres in Mexico. | ||
| See, they're forcing the Indians off their property in southern Mexico. | ||
| They're all being driven up north to Mexico City, which has grown from about, I forget what, 16 million? | ||
| According to PBS, I don't know if it's true, but I know it's grown a lot. | ||
| From 16 million to 27 million, it's going to be over 300 million by turn of the century, just in the last 10 years or so. | ||
| The UN, under the guise of environmentalism, is forcing the little Indians off their property, and they're selling it off to build condos and stuff, or for mining operations. | ||
| So they're coming out there, they're having to get across the border, and there's these bandits that feed off these people who are carrying the little bit of money they have to get into America. | ||
| And so a lot of Border Patrol people get shot by those guys, so they're very tense. | ||
| But I think it was bad that that happened. | ||
| This is just all part of this. | ||
| You have displaced masses of refugees from criminal corporations that are, again, not free market, that are fascistic, displacing indigenous peoples. | ||
| God, I'm sounding like a total liberal. | ||
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But then you've still got the Marines' story. | |
| I mean, even the DA out there, and also Barry Kaver, a Texas Ranger, to me, he's the most upstanding. | ||
| Law enforcement officer in this state, he said that the Marine story did not add up to where they were, where they shot. | ||
| Well, they also threw his body in the well after they shot him. | ||
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And then didn't even tell, when the helicopter came, they didn't even tell him that the guy had been shot. | |
| So, I mean, they've got some culpability there. | ||
| Yeah, there's definitely some things going on there. | ||
| But again, what did you think about Ramsey Clark, who was an attorney general, talking about the Trilateral Commission and the CFR? Yeah, Exactly. | ||
| The whole story is much worse, and the new documentary is going to show that. | ||
| I'm kind of mad at McNulty that he wouldn't answer our questions, but other people were. | ||
| But I guess, is that his name McNulty? | ||
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Yeah, Mike McNulty. | |
| Mike McNulty. | ||
| He's got to get, I guess he's got to get his money back. | ||
| He makes a couple million dollar film. | ||
| He's got to get his money back. | ||
| But again, this is public knowledge. | ||
| And I've got some people I'm in contact with that will probably be guesting things on some of my other media events. | ||
| Do you have any more comments? | ||
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Well, I just would like to ask you if you've read the book The Healing of America by Marianne Williamson. | |
| No, I haven't read that book. | ||
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Well, it's an excellent book. | |
| And in the part of the back of the book, it has a... | ||
| Still for the World Wide Web, Vote Smart, where you can actually get on the Internet and you can get your elected officials, their addresses, their voting records and their biographies and their funding sources, which I thought was really interesting for people to find out exactly, you know. | ||
| Who's doing what and what they're supposed to be standing for and so on. | ||
| Well, listen, I appreciate your call. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| Take care. | ||
| The problem is there's a lot of good people, and we think of ourselves as good and kind, and so somebody gives us an idea in the media of big government to help, and we go for it. | ||
| We just don't realize that big government is a lever of control for certain individuals and power bases. | ||
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What do you think it's going to take to get more than 3-4% of the people, like this last election, to get more than 4% of people to go vote? | |
| I would say in a presidential election you have absolutely no control. | ||
| I would say that with Bob Dell and Bill Clinton you had two front candidates. | ||
| It took me a long time to just totally admit this to myself. | ||
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Yeah, just go vote for one. | |
| Just close your eyes and do something. | ||
| Well, I was going to say, locally we've had some small changes. | ||
| We've had an effect just... | ||
| 20, 30, 40 of us that have gone out over time to the commission. | ||
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But this runoff, I mean, they had what? | |
| I mean, it was low, low turnout. | ||
| Well, people are getting more and more apathetic. | ||
| And I saw people today helping people push their cars off the road and people walking their dogs. | ||
| And we're a good nation. | ||
| That's why we're so easily controlled. | ||
| And we're very simple. | ||
| And we're very easily diverted. | ||
| And we're very sophomoric, myself included. | ||
| So we've just got to get people empowered again. | ||
| We've got to raise their morale. | ||
| Show them that they can do something, Mike. | ||
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Sounds good. | |
| Are there any more stories you've seen lately that have... | ||
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Well, the gun. | |
| Okay, the executive order to ban the importation of assault rifles. | ||
| There's just another little chipping away at that Second Amendment. | ||
| There's a brand new one, and I don't have all the particulars, but it's already almost a done deal where the ATF has put into the Federal Register an optional... | ||
| place to put your social security number when you buy a shotgun or a rifle and also they're going to do a three-day wait kind of like a Brady too and in May 20th or something like that it becomes law. | ||
| It's a comment period right now. | ||
| That is unconstitutional. | ||
| The Congress is not passing it. | ||
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They're not even fighting it. | |
| This is the registering of firearms. | ||
| People rallying. | ||
| You can call your congressman on this and guarantee them that you will campaign against them. | ||
| And then... | ||
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Then do it. | |
| And then do it if they don't. | ||
| Hello, you're on the air. | ||
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Yes, hello. | |
| I wanted to bring up something that I haven't heard y'all mention tonight and it's something that people make me aware of. | ||
| It's that... | ||
| I recognize your voice. | ||
| Hey, I went and saw that website. | ||
| Thanks for putting that up. | ||
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Oh, no problem. | |
| I've been so super busy that I... I mean, with this documentary and other things I'm trying to get done. | ||
| I just haven't had time to call anybody back. | ||
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Oh, that's okay. | |
| It's been crazy here, Tim. | ||
| I understand. | ||
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I have the flu right now. | |
| I'm kind of out of it. | ||
| I'm going to try to get this straight. | ||
| I think it's in Chicago. | ||
| There was a law where the police saw a group of people standing on the corner. | ||
| You might be wearing a red bandana because you've just been painting. | ||
| They can arrest you if you do not move. | ||
| They can break up a group of people. | ||
| So the right to peaceably assemble is just kind of out the window, huh? | ||
| But it's for gangs. | ||
| It's not for us. | ||
| We're just taking this right for some people. | ||
| See, we don't punish the gang members because we want them out there. | ||
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We let them out of jail. | |
| Let me face this real quick. | ||
| This is very important right now. | ||
| Apparently they have arrested people and have harassed people enough that the people, like one guy was eating a hot dog, laying on a taxi or something. | ||
| He got arrested. | ||
| These people turned around. | ||
| They sued. | ||
| They won. | ||
| They won. | ||
| They sued. | ||
| They said their constitutional rights were violated and all this stuff, and it's not a good law. | ||
| The U.S. Supreme Court right now is reviewing that law. | ||
| They're looking at to see if it's constitutional, what they need to do about it, if they could get some clear guidelines down, and they're supposed to publish the response. | ||
| By 1999, fall of 1999, but this is something at the grassroots level that people need to be aware of. | ||
| If you, with all your sisters and your family, maybe y'all are going to a femoral union, y'all are staying on the corner somewhere downtown, heaven forbid, and someone thinks you have a gang member with you. | ||
| And then, and more importantly... | ||
| You're the person of the family who was fixing to loan his cousin money at the family reunion, and he has $4,000. | ||
| They might just take that. | ||
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That's the drug money. | |
| What are you doing with all that? | ||
| Asset, forfeiture, seizure. | ||
| Of course, there's no innocent until proven guilty. | ||
| Just take your money. | ||
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But please be aware of it. | |
| They've been doing... | ||
| Austin American Statesman ran a story on this. | ||
| I have both articles at work. | ||
| Alex, I'm going to send you a copy. | ||
| Yeah, you sent me the executive order, didn't you? | ||
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Excuse me? | |
| You sent me the executive order. | ||
| I already had it, but you sent it to me, didn't you? | ||
| Well, actually, I haven't been reading The Statesman lately because I've been focused on some other things. | ||
| I've been scanning it, but would you send those to me, please? | ||
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Yes, I will, but let me tell you, I read the especially press report, and it was very... | |
| Black and white, cut and dry, and it kind of did everything. | ||
| The next day, an Austin-American spaceman came out with an article yesterday, and it was so slanted. | ||
| They said, oh, the Chicago police, they had this wonderful law, and it was happening, and the crime rate was actually going down. | ||
| Well, you have to understand, there's a lot of newspapers that aren't... | ||
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They're famous for that. | |
| There are a lot of newspapers that aren't... | ||
| Well, see, they own the... | ||
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Tucks. | |
| Yes, they own the Waco Tribune that wrote the sinful Messiah stories to prepare when they were training the terrorism teams. | ||
| Not the anti-terrorism teams at Fort Hood. | ||
| You have to understand, and I'm sure people out there understand this, is that it is Ann Cox Chambers of Cox News Service owns the Statesman. | ||
| And she is pure 100% trilateral commission and CFR. And we just saw Ramsey Clark, our former Attorney General, and he was also in two other administrations. | ||
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Kudos to him. | |
| That was great. | ||
| I recorded that interview. | ||
| Well, I'm going to try to put it on better in the future. | ||
| There's actually more of that interview. | ||
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Get a Dallas paper and a Houston and an Austin, and when something important's happening, you will see paragraphs, numerous paragraphs usually cut out of the Austin paper, and it'll be the real important part of the story. | |
| You can do it regular. | ||
| How about if we check out this little segment of tape that you have here? | ||
| Oh yeah, let's go ahead. | ||
| For people that just tuned in, we played what really happened at the Waco Remembrance, April 19th, five years after the fiery conflagration at the church that was burnt to the ground and the lies that came out and the people were machine gunned. | ||
| We just showed you attorney generals and producers of documentaries and many others and an FBI agent, ex-FBI agent out there blabbering and soft soaking. | ||
| Here is the 24 piece, which was actually better than some of the other pieces, actually, but it's still not good enough. | ||
| It's almost worse to come out and kind of placate and say, well, mistakes were made, but blah, blah, blah. | ||
| Either come out with the truth, don't give us half-truths, because those are the worst. | ||
| We'll be right back in about two, three minutes. | ||
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It's to remember what happened and to continue to ask why. | |
| It's an image burned into the memory of America. | ||
| Five years ago today, fire consumed the Mount Carmel Center near Waco with 80 people inside. | ||
| It was the tragic end to a 51-day standoff after federal agents tried to arrest David Koresh on weapons charges. | ||
| In tonight's top story, KB24's Danny Hermosillo tells us now the Davidians have found some unlikely allies for their cause. | ||
| The tragic end to the Branch Davidian standoff still takes its toll among the survivors. | ||
| David Koresh, United States. | ||
| Sheila Martin and others remember these names as friends, children, and spouses. | ||
| Many times I think of it as like I've really been like in a continual funeral. | ||
| It's like I live it every day. | ||
| I see the faces. | ||
| There's a new face on the scene of the standoff. | ||
| Mount Carmel now houses a museum that attracts those searching for the truth behind the tragedy. | ||
| That search has drawn some unlikely supporters. | ||
| We have to engage in the struggle for the duration until the truth is known. | ||
| Former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark now represents the surviving Davidians in their wrongful death suit against the government. | ||
| It's not a matter of taking sides. | ||
| It's not the government against the people or the people against the government. | ||
| It's the people's government working for the rights of the people. | ||
| That's where I recover the majority of the body. | ||
| Ferris Rookstool also defends Davidians. | ||
| All the women and children were kind of huddled up into this corner section. | ||
| The former FBI agent recovered many of the bodies and gathered the evidence after the fire. | ||
| He says the government mishandled the situation. | ||
| There were major mistakes made in this case, not only from the way things were handled, but the way things were negotiated and the way things were affected in the form of trying to take control of the crime scene. | ||
| These 82 trees were planted as living memorials to the Branch Davidians killed during the standoff. | ||
| And as they continue to grow, so does the myths surrounding the siege. | ||
| But maybe in time there will be a blade of truth as to what really happened. | ||
| In Waco, Daniel Mosillo, KV24 News. | ||
| Four ATF agents were also killed during the initial raid on Mount Carmel. | ||
| Seven Branch Davidians are serving terms from 15 to 40 years for either killing those officers or other weapons charges. | ||
| Today is also... | ||
| Liar? | ||
| That is a lie. | ||
| That's a lie. | ||
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They're not serving in prison for killing those officers. | |
| The judge sentenced them even after the... | ||
| They were found not guilty, but then the federal judge used a loophole. | ||
| With judge sentencing. | ||
| See, they don't punish criminals on a whole. | ||
| So then they get us to go, give us law, these bad juries. | ||
| And so we give judges special federal powers where they can just hand down these rulings. | ||
| And it's a kangaroo court. | ||
| A jury finds them not guilty. | ||
| Judge hands it down. | ||
| They lie. | ||
| And then he calls it the myth. | ||
| The myth. | ||
| Someday a blade of truth will come from the myth. | ||
| The media admitted that they've seen Waco Rules of Engagement. | ||
| You heard Ramsey Clark say the truth must come out, that it cuts off. | ||
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That the government machine gun these people. | |
| I'll tell you, you know, you think somebody that does that for a living could get their facts a little bit straighter. | ||
| It's real simple. | ||
| They have editors, they have producers, and the people that are subconscious, subconsciously understand the way the game is played, or actually consciously, I hope it's subconscious, and just go along and don't rock the boat. | ||
| It's kind of like being popular in high school. | ||
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Yeah, that way they might work their way up to New York City. | |
| Alex, let me get this out. | ||
| In the Federal Register, pages 8379-8386. | ||
| It was put in February 19th. | ||
| This is the Brady II. So, folks, you can look it up. | ||
| One of our associates has the paper. | ||
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Yeah, this has got a secret decoder deal. | |
| Yeah, right. | ||
| Okay, we'll take three more phone calls. | ||
| Hello, you're on the air, caller. | ||
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Yeah, am I on the air? | |
| Yeah, you're on the air. | ||
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Okay. | |
| I applaud what you're all doing. | ||
| It's the first time I've seen your show. | ||
| I'm from Tennessee, and I just checked in here in the area and seen you on television. | ||
| I wanted to mention that last year... | ||
| I had an incident with the police here in Texas, and what I did is I turned myself in on some old warrants, and the police officers seemed to act as though me not having an ID was a crime in itself. | ||
| And I was just curious on what you all, is it in fact a crime not to have a state ID? Well, it's not constitutionally a crime, but yes, they told me when I got arrested at the DPS for refusing a thumb scan at a protest that we had that, hey, you don't have to have a license. | ||
| But I can't drive. | ||
| They take my right to travel if I don't submit to this thumb scan. | ||
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That's what these people are fighting, this right to travel deal. | |
| And now they want urine and blood testing. | ||
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I wasn't driving. | |
| I turned myself in voluntarily. | ||
| And now they're putting ex-police officers in jail that refuse this stuff like Keith Campbell. | ||
| For two and a half days with one meal a day in a room with how many people? | ||
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The drunk tank would fill up at night. | |
| People defecating on the floor. | ||
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There are police officers, not just Keith. | |
| There are police officers that are just now finding out about the thumb scan that are fixing to be... | ||
| Well, there's probably, right now, there are police officers driving around with a fire. | ||
| I appreciate what you're doing. | ||
| Well, sir, I appreciate the call. | ||
| Hello, Carl. | ||
| Are you on the air? | ||
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Hi. | |
| How are you guys doing? | ||
| Great. | ||
| Just one real quick thing regarding individual privacy. | ||
| In Sunday's Parade magazine, they had a pretty lightweight article about individual privacy and how things from your past can come up. | ||
| And they even gave steps to protect your privacy. | ||
| And ironically, one of them was to avoid tax liens and avoid the IRS coming down on you. | ||
| Yes, the way to get along is to submit and bend over and lubricate yourself well. | ||
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And it was as if it was showing that, well, this information is... | |
| Gathered on you, and it's a fact of life, so accept it. | ||
| But what bothered me, ironically, the following day, I called a bank that had sent me a pre-approved visa for, you know, a real high-limit platinum visa. | ||
| And I said, well, I'll just cut down to one credit card, because I believe debt is slavery. | ||
| So I sent in the thing, and I decided against it. | ||
| And this was, I sent it in four weeks ago. | ||
| Real fast, Tom. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Well, anyway, basically, I called, and I said, I want to cancel my application. | ||
| And they said, well... | ||
| We checked you out, and you have no health insurance, so you were denied, even though they sent a pre-approved. | ||
| And it bothered me because my credit rating is top-notch, and the bank said, you can't have an account because you have no health insurance. | ||
| Listen, I appreciate your call. | ||
| Again, it's not just thumb scanning, urine and blood testing, Federal Register, it's the real deal. | ||
| Quick comment, caller. | ||
| Hello, you're on the air. | ||
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I have a quick question for y'all. | |
| Why surround yourself with a bunch of yes-men and not debate Chris's side, Alex? | ||
| Debate me, man. | ||
| Why are you being a c-? | ||
| Hello here on the air, caller. | ||
| Yes, caller. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| Well, anyways, things have gone really good. | ||
| I have surrounded myself with people like Ramsey Clark and Mike McNulty and Mike Runyon. | ||
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I'm still impressed, Alex, when I saw last night you getting on that FBI guy. | |
| Yeah, you know me. | ||
| I'm a coward. | ||
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