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Dec. 19, 2025 - Adventures in HellwQrld
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Adventures in HellwQrld Presidents: RIP Rob Reiner + mass shootings

This week we talk about the death of Rob Reiner and Trump and the right wing's response to it. We then get into the mass shootings in Australia and at Brown and the conspiracies already cropping up in those situations. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/hellwqrld. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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The Adventures in Hell World podcast talks in depth about QAnon.
While it's meant to be comedic informative, sometimes we have to get into things like child abuse and violence against people.
Listener discretion advised.
Hello, everybody.
I am Mike Raines, aka Poker and Politics, and welcome to another episode of Adventures in Hell World.
This week, I am joined as always by Eric, the deep state operative.
Hi, thank you, Mike.
And I'd like to welcome our special guest, Kash Patel, who is here to talk about anything at all, except for the thing he's supposed to be doing right now.
Get on more podcasts, Cash.
That's how you do your job as the director of the FBI.
Steph's here, because I'm going to bring in Steph before I go on a rant.
Yes, I also work for the FBI in my imagination, and I've done a better job at catching people than the real FBI.
It is.
I mean, like, of all the things that just makes me want to just throw shit at a wall.
Like, I want to go into one of those rage rooms that's very bad for you because it conditions your mind to accept anger as a good thing.
And don't do rage rooms.
They sounded like a great idea.
They're very bad.
But my rage room situation is just the fact that going into the 2024 election, as America was heading to the polls to decide who would run our great nation, one thing that never came up at all ever was who was going to staff the potential Trump administration.
No one in our media was just thinking, hey, Donald, you have a lot of weirdos in your orbit.
Are you going to give those weirdos really important fucking jobs that they might fuck up because they're unqualified morons?
Why ask?
I mean, the man works 23 and a half hours a day.
And so, I mean, why would he even need a staff?
Oh, yeah, the God Emperor who works 25, 8, 400, who like the only time he's not doing everything in his power for America is the brief fleeting moments he succumbs to the temptations of the flesh and satisfies Melania in ways no human could ever possibly describe.
This titan of both politics and sex that is our God Emperor president.
So glorious.
But no one in the press was just thinking to themselves, hey, what if this idiot puts a podcaster in charge of the FBI?
What if he puts an anti-vax quack in charge of our health care systems?
What if he puts a drunk from Fox News in charge of our defense department?
Could this lead to potentially bad outcomes?
He does a silly little dance and he shit and he scoops some fries at McDonald's and Kamala has a weird laugh and Kamala is like a D minus on Israel Palestine while Trump's an F.
So, I mean, you can't vote for the D minus.
You got to let the F win.
That's the way our politics works.
F for freaking awesome.
Yeah, F for freaking awesome.
Yeah.
Trump Tower, Gaza.
That's what the Palestinians want.
Yeah.
Just, God, just dealing with this even now, a year after the election, quote-unquote, Palestinian activists being like, we were right to do what we did.
It's like, oh, well then, congratulations to Lizard Girth.
Okay.
Anyhow.
Yeah.
And I remember during the prep work for the election, I was telling all these people, these progressives, you know, the genocide Joe One killer, Kamala people.
I'm telling all them, you realize that Trump wants to turn, Trump and his son-in-law want to turn Gaza into beachside property.
And they're like, no, he doesn't.
So I show them clips of Jared Kushner saying that.
And they're like, yeah, well, Kamala bad.
That was the basis of their argument.
They couldn't actually articulate anything.
I know.
The thing that people, and for all of those who are, all of those of you who are tuning out right now, because the Omni cause demands that you be on the other side of this, and I get it.
I feel you.
I can't wait for your excuse in 2028.
But the point I make for these people a lot is, is that Kamala Harris was a powerless advisor in the Trump administration.
That was her actual job.
Any stink Biden administration.
Yeah, again, thank you for correcting me.
I hate when that happens.
But no, but I'm saying, like, the vice presidency is worthless unless the current president gets dropped or impeached and actually convicted.
Then it's incredible.
The vice presidency is like a powerball ticket.
That's all it is.
And sometimes you can finagle that powerball ticket into the presidency, like Joe Biden did, or Richard Nixon, or Lyndon Johnson.
He got in by a murder.
And other people take the vice presidency and then vanish into obscurity, like Mike Pence and Dan Quayle or Al Gore.
I mean, this is the thing is that all the power of the vice presidency is to break ties in the Senate and to be in the room when the president's like, so what should we do about this situation?
And then you give the president your two cents.
And then the president looks at you and goes, you know why I picked you to win your state and I didn't even win your state because you fucking suck.
Get out of the goddamn room, you piece of shit.
And then the vice president's like, I'm sorry.
And you're like, damn right, you're sorry.
And that's it.
I'm going to have during the course of this podcast.
I'm going to have to look up.
Oh, no, I remembered it.
Bobby Kennedy and a lot of the Kennedy family and their cohort called Lyndon Johnson Rufus Cornpoke.
That was their name for Lyndon during the Kennedy administration because they fucking hated him.
And they were like, thanks for winning us, Texas asshole.
Now go sit in the goddamn corner.
And then Kennedy got his head blown off.
And they were like, ah, beans.
Now this guy's running America.
How did that happen?
So, but that's the vice presidency.
You're Rufus Cornpoke.
That's what the president thinks of you.
But yeah.
So anyhow, Kambala couldn't have done shit about shit until she won the presidency.
And then we could have seen what her foreign policy was.
But guess what?
We didn't get to do that because everyone was like, you know what we need?
We need two scoops of Trump.
And boy, how do we obtain two scoops of Trump?
And it's great.
And by great, I mean fucking terrible.
And what is today's current terribleness with Trump?
Well, guess what?
Strap in.
It's a four-hour episode.
You've probably seen it.
We got seven ad breaks.
Oh, my God.
You're going to get so much.
You're going to hear about Mint Mobile so much.
It's going to make your head spin.
It's going to be incredible.
Well, if you want to start off on a somewhat late note, we can bring up the plaques.
The breaking news plaque.
They look like they were AI written gibberish.
I don't know.
I didn't read them all, but I glanced through some of them.
And it looks, and I would not be surprised if Trump did not personally Write and say this is what it has to say because it's because it reads like one of his fucking cloud tweets.
Yeah, if you don't know what Eric's talking about, basically there's a wall of presidents of photos and portraits on the in the White House, and they have now hung plaques right outside the Oval Office.
They've now hung plaques under them that are basically like, Obama, kind of a piece of shit, Joe Biden, a fucking loser, and so on.
It's basically just a mean girl slam book in the form of plaques under presidents' portraits.
Obama got two plaques because Trump's hatred for the man could not be contained in one plaque.
Yeah.
And of course, he makes sure to use his middle name.
God forbid anybody ever forget that he just so happened to share a name with the president of Iraq.
What I'm thinking of right now is that what Donald Trump needs to do is he needs to take a uh he needs to follow the lead of the nutballs at the uh Dallas, the Texas Schoolbook Depository, where the historical plaque for the Texas Schoolbook Depository is.
And people like carved all around the word allegedly so it pops when you look at the plaque and it says Lee Harvey Oswald allegedly shot President Kennedy from here.
He needs to like take the he needs to take the scalpel, he needs to take his little knife and just carve around the word Hussein so the Hussein on the plaque like pops the way the word allegedly pops at the tell the Texas Schoolbook Depository.
Really let everybody know Barack Hussein Obama.
Really, really jab that knife in there.
Let him know.
Somebody who did read the whole thing pointed out that Trump mentions himself three times in the Obama plaque.
Of course he does.
He's a crippling narcissist.
The only thing a man can talk about is himself.
And as much as he may be pissed off at Joe Biden for handing him his only acknowledged defeat, that will never, you know, that'll never come close.
That is like a mild sunburn compared to the flaming nimbus of sunlight that is his hatred for Barack Hussein Obama.
You know, there's a part of him as his brain slowly dies from Alzheimer's, as he as he sees the light and his dead relatives beckoning him.
There's a part of him that just thinks about it and he's like, you know, man, I won two presidential elections.
I've done this shit.
I'm fucking king shit of fuck mountain.
I should have run in 2012.
I should have fucked Obama up and beat his ass.
You just know that like there's this part of him that's just mad that he let Romney like take the shot at the champ in 2012 because I can never find these polls.
Like every time I've ever done a Google search for their shit, I just can't get them to pop.
But I lived through it.
So I know this is true, even though at some point someone's going to be like, Grandpa Reigns, you're insane.
No, this didn't happen.
Time to get you to bed now.
But in 2012, while the serious Republicans were on bent knee begging Chris Christie to get his ass in the race to give them a chance of beating Obama, when Trump was on Fox News promoting birtherism and all this shit, they were doing hypothetical polls and Trump was beating Romney consistently in those hypothetical polls.
So if Trump had just gone in on 2012 and been like, Barack Obama, Barack Hussein Obama was born in Kenya.
Fuck him.
He probably would have run the, he would have run the Republican nomination very easily.
And we would have had an un we would have had the most racist presidential campaign imaginable.
It would have been incredible.
And obviously, I think Obama crushes him.
But there would have been betting pools on how long it takes him to use the N-word.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, the third debate, he would have broken.
Oh, God, third debate.
Yeah.
But I mean, it's, it was just, it's just a thing that, like, obviously it gnaws at him now that, like, because he's like, hey, I've done it.
I'm a two-termer.
I'm the champ.
I'm the best president there ever was.
I'm the best campaigner there ever was.
And in his like fleeting moments of lucidity, he's like, God damn it.
I would have beaten Obama.
I fucking hate that these people think I wouldn't have.
I absolutely would have.
And I think that's really what gets his GOAT is that he knows that that 2012 nomination was there on a silver platter for him.
He would have, he would have pumped out Romney in two.
Romney would have dropped out in New Hampshire and started crying if Trump had gotten into that race.
And now Trump's just looking back at it and he's like, I could have made Obama a one-termer.
I would have been dog, I would have been the man.
I would have gotten in and out before COVID.
Oh, it would have been great.
And it's just, no.
So yeah, sorry.
Sorry, Donnie.
Sorry.
Sorry.
It all didn't work out for you.
But yeah, Hillary could have been president for COVID.
Right, exactly.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Dropped that grenade in her lap.
So yeah, I just.
Oh, man.
Can you imagine the Clinton body count if she had been president during COVID?
I remember.
I would say if you listen to some people, some conspiracy theorists, I think that would have just been like a percentage point of her body count.
Oh, yeah.
Considering they seem to think that the population of the earth would be like 20 billion without her.
Yeah, without Hillary slaughtering every human being that hovers into her field of vision.
I remember someone made the really great point that in 2020, we would have had President-elect Cotton winning in a landslide because the 50,000 dead we had from COVID under President Clinton was such a national disgrace.
We had no choice but to run her out on a rail in a landslide.
So yeah, I just, and I fully believe that.
I fully believe they would have done the media would have done everything in their power to kneecap Hillary and make sure she was only a one-termer.
So that would have been, it would have been magical.
But so the plaques happened.
That was great.
And thankfully, our president, who's full of tact and decorum, has not done anything else that's really stupid and terrible.
Oh, wait, no, I'm totally wrong.
Yeah, as you well know, by now that you're listening to this, mortal enemy of the podcast, Rob Reiner, was tragically murdered along with his wife, probably by his son.
Allegedly, got to use that.
Oh, yeah, because when fucking Alan Jackson plays the pod, the Adventures in Hell World podcast to say the jury pool's been tainted and they get the kid off.
Oh, man, I'm going to look bad.
So yeah.
And for those of you who don't live in Massachusetts, Alan Jackson was the heavy hitter that came in to get Karen Reid acquitted in her case.
So us base staters are a bit displeased by the news that he's now representing Nick Reiner because we know him as the hero fighting the corrupt cops of Massachusetts and getting justice for Karen Reed.
And now he's representing alleged, but also probably very obvious murderer, Nick Reiner in this case.
And it's like, Alan, Alan, baby, baby, what are you doing?
You're getting rid of that Karen Reed shine.
You could have been the governor of Massachusetts if you wanted it.
And now you're doing this.
This isn't a great look.
I hope this doesn't turn into another OJ trial.
Yeah, oh my God.
Yeah, that'd be great.
Yeah.
Somehow he gets Nick acquitted.
It's like, everyone's like, no, what the fuck?
No, bad wrong.
Yeah.
So uh, i'm not even gonna get into Trump's uh recent uh piss whine about uh Raphael Warnock saying something on tv which I just missed.
That yeah, it just, it just happened, it's great.
Oh okay because yeah, I mean because obviously the last 24 hours has been all about what he said about Rob Reiner.
I mean so much so that I don't think we even have to spell it out.
No, yeah, but basically, Donald Trump went on a very long rant where he basically said that Rob Reiner had Trump domain syndrome and this is why he died, which is to say, someone was so angry at Rob Reiner's shitty liberalism, they killed him to shut him up, which was a really weird fucking thing to say.
And Trump really centered himself in Rob Reiner's death, which is a very weird thing for anyone to do.
Except for him, because he centers himself in fucking everything.
He's made Mother's Day about himself, for God's sake.
But not the Epstein stuff.
He doesn't center himself there.
Weirdly, weirdly.
Although, you know, this could all be since everything is a distraction from everything else, as we all know.
This could be his way of trying to distract from when he accidentally said that the brown shooter had been located and then had to retract it.
Yeah.
As Alice Roosevelt, the daughter of Teddy Roosevelt, said about her father, and this applies very much to Trump.
He wants to be the bride at every wedding, the corpse at every funeral, and the baby at every christening.
So it is just, this is a man who only wants attention at all times, always.
So go ahead.
No, I was looking something up because I was curious.
And because it's a little fun fact that the current government in Iran is partially the fault of the grandson of Theodore Roosevelt, Kermit Roosevelt.
So I might look it up, but no, that was not his mother.
That was actually his aunt, Alice.
That would have been a funny little tie-in, though.
Yes, it would have.
But go ahead and Google it.
You'll see it.
Kermit Roosevelt installed the Ayatollah.
That son of a bitch.
Because he thought he'd be better for America than the Shah.
Yeah.
But yeah.
So Trump said this horrible thing.
And what was really awesome about this was that he does this.
And before he does this, there are all these right-wingers online who get on their high horses and are telling everybody the right does not celebrate death.
The right mourns the passing of Rob Reiner.
We take the high road on these situations.
And a lot of them, just to make sure that their meaning was perfectly crystal clear, said, unlike the left with Charlie Kirk.
Right, exactly.
Like, we don't delight in death the way you godless ghouls did when Charlie Kirk was murdered.
You absolute pieces of shit.
We are so much nicer and better than you.
It's appalling.
And then Donald Trump breaks through a brick wall like the Kool-Aid man and posts the most offensive shit you could imagine.
And suddenly the right says, oh, that's how we're doing this, boss.
Fine.
I'll back your play.
And suddenly every right winger is posting, fuck Rob Reiner, that piece of shit.
I can't wait till they bury him so I can piss on his grave.
Fuck him and everything he ever stood for.
And, as I meant again I mentioned this when I was tweeting is that the through line of all of this was owning the Libs and being better than the liberals.
That you open the day by stating that you're going to take the high road, unlike the liberals, and then, once things go weird because you follow a psychopath for a president as your cult leader and now you got to back what he said you become a absolute piece of like.
Uh, Jack Pisobic did the whole High Ground thing and then, after the High Ground thing bombed, he was like, oh, Donald Trump did a mean tweet.
Now you're all upset.
Yeah, that's the man who cried at a pizza restaurant.
He can sit down and shut the hell up.
Um, I was gonna say like I I had read an article about like the like the party at um Conan O'brien's that they had all been at the night before the murder and stuff, and in the article they had mentioned that, like Rob Reiner, when Charlie Kirk was assassinated, Rob Reiner made like a heartfelt post that you know it's unacceptable and he he feels bad for Charlie Kirk's family and stuff.
So this guy that they're all hating on, I don't like his.
Like his politics are a little too shit Libby for me, i'll you know.
I admit that I don't like his JFK stuff, but like he Mike, what are your thoughts?
I don't think you've ever said that to us.
He was.
He was a decent.
He was a decent guy and it's like he gave it.
Like you, you can hate his politics, but are you gonna sit there and tell me you don't like spinal tap or princess Bride or all in the family?
Are you gonna tell me you don't like all in the family?
You you, you can't you.
Are you that ridiculous and so caught up in politics that you can't sit down and go?
I like the princess Pride, everyone likes the princess Bride, everyone.
It just it's unbelievable how these people are acting.
Oh uh, c plus stuff.
How?
How do you talk about the princess Pride and then say unbelievable instead of inconceivable?
It's inconceivable how these I didn't, I didn't even think well, and also princess Bride, but that got.
That got a big comeback on january 6th because everyone was like, have fun, so i'm in the capital.
Yeah, they'll need a miracle yeah, but uh yeah, I mean, this is the thing that's really funny is, uh, I am I I.
I started writing a book, I stopped writing it.
I'm rewriting the book and I was going to and probably still kind of have to have a chapter going over Rainer's podcast and how terrible it was, and it's like I now have to kind of kid glove that chapter because it's like I really just can't go after this dead guy that got.
I mean, you can, you can, you can like uh, critique his methodology and his conclusions without without, without saying, Rob Rider sucked right, without impugning the man yeah, I get it, but but i'm just saying it's like, it's like I would, I i'll have.
I mean, unless something happens to Oliver Stone, I can crush, I can crush Jfk, the movie and Oliver Stone with without even like losing a wink of sleep.
But it's like when I get to the this is why that podcast wasn't great it's like hopefully none of my twitter haters listen to this podcast because they'll just clip out me yelling Rob Rainer sucked and post it everywhere exactly.
Oh man, I'm doing it as we speak.
I'm doing it as we speak.
I'm still the whole collection.
Oh, speaking of, speaking of taking out of context, there's the press secretary in her interviews with Vanity Fair that just came out.
Yeah, and she said that, yeah, she said that Musk is a ketamine addict.
And then when she's like, you fucking lied that I said that, they're like, here's the tape of you saying it.
She was all, ah, beans.
She said, you took me out of context.
I'm like, oh, so when you said that Trump has an alcoholic personality, you meant that in a good way.
Exactly.
I mean, that's the thing that's really funny is that the Wiles stuff is so it's like it's like tier nine stuff for what we're doing, because we're just we've had so much other stuff to do, I mean we it's just an endless conversation of terrible things that we have to um, talk about oh and uh.
That that does actually remind me of something we were just, I think it.
I think it was DC Draino who said, regarding the Rob Reiner thing, they tried to kill him twice.
He can say whatever he wants about Rob Reiner.
Was it DC Draino?
I can't remember it, probably was.
I mean okay, I mean, if it wasn't Fucking Suey right yeah no, I mean, all of those clowns did the whole.
They wanted to kill him.
He has carde blanche to say whatever he wants.
And the problem with that whole statement is that it's not really true that they all there was no they that tried to kill him.
It was just uh one, two weird wackos yeah, who had nothing to do with anything.
They were not very sad saying how many parentheses were around the word they uh, zero.
He was more subtle than usual.
I'm sure it was all cast.
No no, actually I believe it was in quotes that Dc Draino account.
I wish that guy really would go and drink Draino seriously anyway, don't go that far.
But but I would love it if the only thing people ever remember of him is when he held up that uh binder that said Epstein Files, volume one.
Yep, they use that picture for his.
You know his epitaph.
I mean uh obituary yeah, oh yeah, that was really awesome that he uh was one of the clowns that got the Epstein binders and it's just man.
Absolutely no no shame, they don't care.
They'll say anything and do anything just to get a little attention and some headlines and some publicity.
They're absolute scum and they're the worst.
But we had that uh bullshit with Rainer that happened.
And we then had the uh shooting in Australia that happened.
And uh uh, Steph and I had talked before the episode about the guy that disarmed the one of the attackers and that was like really cool and i've seen a lot of people talking about the bravery of that dude.
And then he ended up getting shot twice by uh, by people, by the other shooter I think it was a.
It was like a father and a son combo.
That were the attackers.
And then I saw all these right-wingers lying about how uh Muslims set off fireworks in celebration of the attacks and that that was not at all what happened.
The fireworks were like pre-planned for other events that had nothing to do with the shooting and they I mean, it's just this thing, where anything bad happens, you immediately run out to claim that your enemies did it, and we need to hate those people, because you can never let a tragedy go to waste.
You have to use the tragedy to try to exploit it and make more people mad and upset about what happened.
Yeah, so that was uh, great and awesome and all that good stuff, and I wish I had more to say about that, but I really haven't followed the Australian shooting that much.
Uh, just to clarify, when he said awesome, he meant the guy saving the people.
He didn't mean the shooting was awesome.
No, the shooting was.
Put me out of context.
The shooting was awesome, it's fine, it's okay.
We're all here to say stupid things but um, the and and the best part about it is because this is America, where we have shootings all the time, unlike Australia.
We immediately had a mass shooting here to uh, blur the news about the shooting in Australia.
Uh so, at Brown University uh, there was a shooting by typically wasn't a mass shooting, because it's three or more um dead for it to be classified as a mass shooting usually.
Well, we got two dead and nine injured, so it's pretty goddamn fucking bad.
Yeah.
But anyhow, this shooting happened at Brown University, and we still haven't found the suspect.
And this is something that is very annoying to a lot of people because, hey, when there's a shooting like this, usually we catch the guy right away.
And one of the problems that we have here is that Kash Patel runs the FBI and does not know what he is doing.
and they claimed they had the shooter or a person of interest in custody.
Lickety split from the time it happened, and that's probably what happened was they said that and then they stopped looking into it and then they were like, oh no, the guy we said that did it has evidence that proves he did not do it.
So our suspect has to be let go.
And we've now blown precious hours that Kash Patel spent podcasting, not going after the real killer.
Uh, Donald Trump has recently posted that there were not enough cameras at Brown University and this makes him very sad.
But uh, but I thought you had the godmind of Kash Patel running the FBI.
Shouldn't he be able to Sherlock Holmes this and find the killer?
He's waiting for the killer's dad to turn him in.
Yeah basically, that's Charlie Kirk's killer would absolutely have gotten away with it if he didn't have uh, the moral compunction to confess to people about it and all that.
I mean I needed to correct myself real quick.
Um, apparently I I looked it up just to make sure, and I know there are different.
You know it.
It says, one or more attackers use a firearm to kill or injure multiple individuals.
It they there it it's a minimum of four victims shot, either injured or killed, not including the shooter.
So I was incorrect in my definition, so I wanted to correct myself and apologize.
No, do not worry, nobody is listening to us for hard-hitting journalistic accuracy.
We are not.
We are none of that.
We are a dumb poop and pee podcast joke place.
But George Will just canceled his subscription to our channel.
Oh, that guy was a 20 sub too.
Oh beans, but uh, the thing that is happening with this shooting that is the truly disgusting and ridiculous thing is what I said about the shooting in Australia, that these pricks never let a tragedy go to waste.
They've always got to have an angle to work.
And by the way, the two people that have died, one of them is named Muhammad Aziz Urkazakov.
I hope I didn't butcher that last name, but I think I got the first two names good.
And that guy was like this super student god of the universe who was at Brown to become the greatest human being who ever lived.
But because he was a Ubistani immigrant to America, I mean a family of Ubakistanis, I believe he was born in America.
But anyways, because he's an immigrant and his name is Muhammad, the right-wing grift machine has thrown his body into the ocean, never to be seen again.
And the other person who died of their wounds from this, from the attack, was named Ella Cook.
And she was a part of Brown's College Republicans.
And she was a church attendant.
She attended church in Birmingham, Alabama.
So she was a church-going social Republican who died in this shooting.
And these pieces of shit have concocted this conspiracy theory that the attacker went after her deliberately and killed her, that she was the target of this thing.
The 10 other people who got shot and the other guy who died were just collateral damage for this targeted assassination of a young woman who nobody knew about until after she was dead.
Basically, to believe the Republican spin on this bullshit, this is the guy that did this is the terminator.
And Ella Cook was basically the Sarah Connor of Republicanism who was going to usher in a right-wing utopia in America in the next 30 odd years when she won the presidency, served two terms, then gave it over to her vice president, who then led America into another eight years of glorious right-wing, perfect glory, awesome stupendousness.
And so this murderous cyborg dropped in there and, again, shot 10 other people, killing one of them, and mowed her down in order to prevent America from becoming our glorious Reaganite republic that she was going to bring it into.
That's weird.
They can MK Ultra a guy to take out Charlie Kirk with one hit, but this girl required a one-man army.
Yeah, yeah.
This guy was, and as numerous people have pointed out, there is no way the attacker could have known that she was in like a random study hall prepping for a test.
That this was a totally optional like public gathering event that she went to in the school to like study for an upcoming quiz.
And it's ridiculous to believe that there was anything to that she was the target.
Like we don't, we don't know the motive of who did this because we don't know who did this because Kash Patel runs our FBI and they're fucking the investigation up.
So until we catch this prick and figure out who did it, all of this stuff is absolutely speculatory and ridiculous.
I mean, me looking at, again, 11 injuries, including two deaths, I'm just going to assume it was a mass shooter who did a thing.
Could this have been someone who knew her before and went after her, possibly?
There's a lot of possible things.
But it was not.
It was not an MK Ultra Sleeper Cell doing this.
I can guarantee you that.
That's what they want you to think.
No, I'm kidding.
Well, don't forget, I do work for the deep state.
So if anybody would know, I mean, unless, you know, it was a different department that did it.
You're in the deep state.
I'm in the deeper state.
We're one step lower, man.
There's a deeper state.
I had no idea.
Wait till you get to the deepest state.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Man, you put in your time, you put in 20 years, you think you know what you're doing, and then you find out there's a deeper state.
Yeah, you don't even get a watch.
20 years in deep state, they don't even give you a watch.
They give you an NFT now.
But I'm both.
This is like inception.
I was just thinking of the Dusty Rhodes hard time speech.
Of course, you got to turn it back to wrestling somehow.
Of course I do.
That's who I am.
And he's either wrestling or Kennedy.
Yep.
Can you bring up the thing about Mick Foley while we're talking about wrestling?
Oh, yeah.
Mick Foley decided that the Rob Reiner post was his, that was his breaking point with WWE.
It was a bridge too far.
That to me seems weird.
There were like a thousand other bridges before this one.
Well, I mean, this is the thing is that the Reiner tweet was a thing that I think really upset a bunch of people.
And also on top of that, it led to so much doubling down from like right-wing assholes.
And I saw a lot of people posting stuff where they were like, if you're upset about what Trump said, you need to understand he's doing a bang up job on the border and he's fixing all the other stuff that you've been complaining about.
So you got to take the bad with the good.
So rub some dirt on it.
So.
Yeah, it's okay that he pissed on the grave of somebody who's not even in the ground yet.
Because you know what?
He's doing God's work.
Oh, yeah.
That's exactly it.
It was exactly it, where it was just like this is.
Well, Rob Reiner was obviously taken out because he got too close to the truth on JFK.
Oh, God, if only.
Yeah, Chucky the typewriter's grandson was like, you son of a bitch.
He kept that secret to his grave and you had to go reveal it to everybody.
I just wanted to mention just really quick, like, like if you stop and you think about it, like, this was a huge Hollywood murder.
Like, I'm trying to think maybe you guys know of, I mean, there were the Wonderland murders.
I don't know that much about that.
But like Tate, from what I can remember, Tate was the last, the Manson shit.
That was like the last really, really big scandalous scary thing.
And to have this done by a member of the family and like everyone wants to imagine everyone just dying peacefully in bed, you know, or just quick heart attack and it's over.
You don't even want this kind of thing.
And when it's like a familicide like this, like, I know it's not technically a familicide because there were no, there was no one else involved, just two parents.
I forget what the name is for that, but it's patricide.
No, maybe that might be.
Well, patricide is.
Patricide is killing your father.
Patricia is killing your father.
And then it could.
So, and I don't know how the rules of Latin work, but it could apply to both parents.
But it just was killing the mother.
Yeah, I know, but I mean, like, like in Spanish, Padres means parents and singular means father.
So maybe, so I'm saying maybe it's like that in Latin.
I don't know.
But it just like the circumstances around it are so messed up.
And just think about the work that he has done.
Like, I'm really honestly like heartbroken about this.
Like when I think of him, I think of Penny Marshall.
My dad is like this huge Republican, but he loves chick flicks.
He loves League of the Round Steel Magnolias.
He will watch that over and over again.
And it's a great movie.
Everybody knows that.
But you think Rob Reiner, even if you're not thinking of his movies, you're thinking of Penny Marshall.
Like, I'm just, it's beyond.
I'm sorry.
I'm just, it's beyond shock for me.
I just like, I grew up watching All in the Family Steal Magnolias all the time as a little kid watching that with my dad.
You know, I'll just, just, I mean, Princess Bride, God, I'm sorry.
I'm just having a moment here because it's just really fucked up if you really, really think about it.
It is.
And like you said, especially that it was his own son who did it.
And so it's got me wondering, you know, I mean, they were saying that because you mentioned the Conan O'Brien party.
And I guess, I guess him and his son got into it at the party.
So there must have been some kind of like, I mean, I guess I don't know much about him or anything, but there must be some kind of underlying mental health issue going on for him to addiction.
I think they said some kind of addiction.
Like, I guess his son went up to Bill Hayter and like everybody at the party knew that the son was going to be there and everybody kind of knew like handle this guy with kid gloves.
He went up to Bill Hayter and Bill Hayter was like, dude, I'm trying to talk to someone here.
And, you know, like, it's just, but think about Bill Hayter.
He has to sit there and think, I talked to a fucking murderer.
I was in the room with the murderer.
And then a natural human being will go, did I say or do something that helped set this emotion?
Did I maybe have something to do with it?
Just everyone who's at that party feels stained.
They feel dirty.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's awful.
I know.
Yeah.
Because you think you could have done something to change his mind.
You could have done something to make it not happen.
Right.
Or, or like Steph was saying, like, Bill Hayter's like, maybe if I hadn't brushed him off, this wouldn't have happened.
And just to be clear, I'm not saying it was his fault.
I'm saying I'm empathizing with the situation that because my uncle killed his next door neighbor in front of the neighbor's 15 year old son.
And he even stopped to reload.
And when you are that close, like I hadn't talked to him in like a year before this had happened, but you've, my blood still feels poison.
It feels poison.
Like I, a murderer's blood, I share that blood.
And, you know, it's like when you, I, I post about on Blue Sky Day, when you end a life, you're not just ending that life and ruining your own and possibly ending your own.
You're staining countless lives around you.
You know, it's like I always think about the Parkland Uber driver, the guy who gave the shooter an Uber ride to the high school that day.
You're making this guy a part of your evil, and he doesn't want to be a part of it.
And that's so fucked up.
And just the way that the pain of these kinds of things spread.
And you can bring that back around to Trump.
You know, you think, oh, he's only damaging.
Oh, it's only the immigrants who are getting damaged.
Okay.
Well, take that down a little notch.
And how about all the people who have to witness the shit happening in the street?
Maybe they're too afraid to get involved and then they feel guilty about that afterwards because I know I feel that way.
So you're victimizing, just like with Charlie Kirk.
Shooter didn't just hurt Kirk and his family.
He victimized every single person who was there and who saw the video.
Yeah, I know.
Yeah, think of all those people who need counseling now because of that.
Yeah.
And it's like, it's like, you want to say a mean thing to someone?
Fine.
Go ahead.
Do that.
Whatever.
But really seriously, think about your actions that go beyond words in real life.
Like, is it worth shoving that person?
Is it worth racing to that stoplight?
Is it worth cutting that guy off, even if it is a cyber truck?
Is it like, you know what I mean?
Because it's just, it really just isn't worth it because in one moment of anger and your life is over and someone else is and maybe a hundred other people, you know.
Yeah.
It's just this dark existentialism that I deal with all the time and I can't help it.
But welcome to my world.
Sorry for the long digression, but go ahead.
Please, God, no.
Every pod we do after I go to load it, the amount of steph talk in the pod is so depressingly low.
I'm like, fuck, this is just two dudes just podding two white men.
Thank you every other podcast.
Yeah, yeah, now we're a true crime podcast.
Yeah, it's like, yeah, yeah, we're upgrading the true crime, the dream, the dream that's always been yearned for.
I mean, this is why.
This is why Reiner paid off Solidad O'Brien to be his Buckleberry in that goddamn thing so he could have a female voice whenever he did his read this toots, uh spots with her, which was too referenced, by the way you know, and and honestly I didn't even I, I know someone who is in that movie.
Um I um, I never listened to his JFK podcast and I don't think I actually listened to any of the episodes you and Haley did.
I apologize over that's.
I say that's too bad because the, the intro to those JFK ones are awesome.
They Mike, found this guy with this really sexy voice to do the oh yeah, is he okay?
Oh, no it.
Just I, I never listened to his podcast, but I know I had a visceral reaction to what he was saying.
Um and um, I know he was like a shit lib and I know South PARK made fun of him in the Smoking episode and stuff like that.
And they make good movies and we're not talking like the guy the.
The pedophile director who made Jeepers Creepers and yes, Jeepers Creepers was a really awesome movie, but it wasn't that awesome that we should support a pedophile director.
Um, Rob Reiner's ship was like so great that you could be.
You could be Nick Fuentes and still enjoy his stuff.
Like you could be so far extreme to the right, but you're like, oh, Prince Spry.
I mean, stand by me.
No one writes kids like Stephen King.
Steven, that's why I love Stranger Things because it reminds me so much of the way Stephen King writes childhood.
Excepting the one part in the book, it when they're children.
The bad part.
I was going to mention the child gangbang.
No, no, no, no.
That was bad.
Stephen King truly knows how to write the kids.
Yeah, the one the one part that nobody who read the book knows.
So let's take that part out, but the childhood flashbacks and reading the Stand By Me novella, writing kids like that, and Rob Reiner, really, that movie, like, oh, God, Lardass.
Oh, my God.
Just everything about that movie was incredible.
I love that we had this weird euphoric announcement.
Oh, my God, Lardass.
From Stand By Me, where he told the story about the kid that threw up at the contest.
Yes.
Yes.
Yeah.
Just that's the most memorable thing.
And chopper sick balls.
Yeah.
And oh, and don't forget the fat kid from Stand By Me is married for Rebecca Romaine.
Yeah.
So live the dream, fat, nerdy kids.
One day you could be married to Rebecca Romaine.
Yes.
So anyhow, time to remind everyone this is Hell World and everything sucks and we shouldn't have any joy in our lives because after the whole Reiner thing and after the whole Brown University shootings and Australia, all of that is basically nothing because guess what?
We're going to war with Venezuela for peace.
Peace.
Blood for the peace gods.
Skulls for the peace throne.
Just they, so our president, the guy that runs our country.
The peace president.
The peace president.
I can't stop saying that.
The guy that has in the dying hours of the 2024 presidential campaign.
So I want to walk through the steps from this bullshit because this is how the right wing creates these ridiculous narratives that you can't look at my shirt, but it's actually Shirley Nansen in extreme pain.
That's what the shirt looks like.
And that's what it is.
I don't know why they made that the shirt, but I had to buy something at the concert and it was there.
So I bought it.
I thought she was just really into the moment.
I didn't think it was pain.
Well, it doesn't look cheerful.
I'll say that.
It was the 90s, though.
It was all angst.
No, this was recent.
This is a current shirt.
This is the old Fogies time of the band.
But anyways, the point is they took old fuddlesticks.
They put him in front of a goddamn camera and they asked him, like, basically, why the fuck are we doing this?
And he declared, they have our oil.
Yes, that's right.
Venezuela has our oil.
Again, I have somehow prophesied this into existence by making a reference to there will be blood a few podcasts ago.
And now Donald Trump thinks that the Venezuelans took a giant straw, stuck it into Texas, and sucked all the oil out of Texas.
And that's why we're going to war to get it back.
And I've heard a bunch of clowns say that what Trump's actually talking about is like oil deals.
And then Venezuela nationalized their oil and they kicked out the company, the oil companies, and blah, blah, blah.
These transcribers really need to ask themselves, why is it that I have to explain every single fucking thing this guy says?
Right.
And hey, America first.
America first means getting involved in everywhere else.
So, hey, voters, you got what you asked for.
And I just look, I know she's a piece of shit and she's still right wing and she admits that, but at least Marjorie Taylor Greene is sticking to her guns.
And she said, when you say America first and you're getting involved in all this other shit, she said she's sticking to her guns.
If you're America first, she's running for 2028.
Please stop giving her credit.
I can't help but notice that none of this came that she didn't start saying any of this until her orange poppy turned on her.
No, I know, but I, but I, I, I'm always going to give her credit for the Epstein stuff.
Even if she's doing it for her own selfish reason, some good is at least coming out of it.
And she's the exact firebrand that you want.
And there are people that do seem to be kind of defecting from some of the Trump stuff slightly, a little tiny bit.
When her hand is on the Bible on 12029, this is going to be your fault.
No, I am not saying vote for that woman.
I am not.
I am.
I am saying.
Every week we get the, you know, Marjorie Taylor Greene ain't that bad segment where you just, I'm not saying she ain't that bad.
I'm just saying I do.
I she has earned a little bit of respect from me.
She she's at least able to fake being a mature adult now.
No, she's not.
You know, you know what?
You know what?
No mature adult has ever said Q is a patriot.
Direct quote.
Q is a patriot.
Well, I mean, I used to say that there were no planes on 9-11.
I know.
You are not a soon-to-be former House representative who is about to be a presidential contender in 2028.
So you get to say these things and turn the corner on them.
Yeah, I say you fully recanted also.
Yes.
Oh, no, no, no, they were holographic planes.
No, I'm just kidding.
But this is the thing about Trump is these people always like to tell us that they voted for him and they respect him because he quote unquote tells it like it is.
And then you ask them, what did he actually mean by that?
And then you're like, oh, what he actually meant was blobbity blob and flurty floof.
So he tells it like it is, but you have to be the oracle of Delphi to actually know what he said.
You have to, you have to, you have to blow the, you have to put the sacred water on the hot coals and have the smoke billow out.
And then check the deltas.
You got to check the deltas, right, Mike?
That's QAnon.
Oh, God.
You have more than you know.
All of these things, all of these things.
But it, but as I was saying, so in 2024, abortion, big issue.
And people basically said, what do young men have that is even in the ballpark of abortion to think about when it comes to issues that are important in this election?
And the response to that question was the draft, which is nonsense because we haven't had a draft in like 40, 50 odd years, and we're not going to have a draft.
Since Vietnam, we haven't had a draft since Vietnam.
Not going to have a draft anytime soon, because any congress that voted for a draft unless we were fighting off a fucking alien invasion, unless we were actually in the the Plot Of Watchmen And The Aliens were real, that Bill Pullman, Bill Pullman as president in Id 4 yeah well, you just need right.
We just need one Randy Quay to end the whole war though yes right, any.
The point is is that they said this and the idea was that if that was to happen, if we were to have a draft, if society had not fallen which is what it would take every congress person that voted yes for a draft could enjoy losing their office immediately, because they would be primaried by somebody who would say, this war was bullshit.
Your son slash daughter should not be sent to fight and die in some distant land.
Vote for me that piece of shit who did this to your family, and that person would win your vote.
And that would be that, and these people would be crushed.
So the whole idea of the draft was bullshit.
Yet memes started flying all over the place um, including like guys posting tweets showing like video games, where you're in a war zone, with the caption, me and the boys in Taiwan, because Taylor Swift convinced all our girlfriends to vote for Kamala.
And this this was a running narrative throughout the election.
Because when asked about Ukraine Russia, Kamala would say, we're on the side of Ukraine, we're gonna keep helping them out and we're gonna make sure that they are able to repel the Russian invasion and protect their national sovereignty.
And then, when they asked Donald Trump, what's he gonna do about that, instead of saying well, i'm on team Putin, I want him to crush Ukraine under his iron fist, which is what he wants Trump would say, i'm on the side of peace, which was the most bullshit, ridiculous statement imaginable.
And nobody in the press wanted to ask a follow-up, because that would ruin everything.
And again, they wanted the happy dancing old man to win.
Look at the look.
He put the fries in the bag.
Oh, somebody shot him in the ear.
You gotta vote for him now.
Someone took a pop at him.
Oh, look at the dance.
He's doing the dance again, isn't he adorable?
Oh, come on, vote for Pop-pop.
He's talking about Annibal Lecter, it's great.
And so that's where we were.
And so we had warmonger Kamala, Killer Kamala, Holocaust Harris, all this horseshit up against Donald The Dove, the peace president, the guy who's gonna make sure we don't do anything like that?
And now we're having a venue, a war with Venezuela.
Why?
Because you.
That's why we're just.
We're just gonna blow up Venezuela for no reason and we're just gonna do it because Donald Trump wants to.
Yeah, we're gonna steal your oil tanker and then say what you're gonna do?
Cry about it.
Yeah yeah, you know we took your oil tanker.
What are you gonna do?
Cry bitch, stop hitting yourself, stop hitting yourself.
Why do you keep hitting yourself?
Yeah exactly, I mean, it's just ridiculous.
It's just so ridiculous that this is where we are, that the whole idea of the constitution was that they did the.
The founding fathers did not want to give the army to the president because they knew if one man was in charge of the military, he would do dumb with it.
So it was up to Congress to declare war.
And then, after World War Ii, Congress was like that we're abandoning that principle.
So now the president just has a shiny toy of all these troops that he can send off to fight and die in whatever war he wants to send them off to.
And yeah, it's great.
And he refused to call it a police action.
Police action, uh.
Special military operation, special three-day military operation upcoming.
We'll be back in time for christmas yep, oh yeah.
Oh yeah, my dad got prostate cancer from handling the exfoliant at one of those special military operations.
Yeah yep, it's not great.
It's not great.
So yeah, we're.
It's just uh, super shitty, ultra bad and not great, I know.
And all those draft guys though, when you point out that there has been a drafts in Vietnam, they'll be like, I still had to sign up for selective service.
Yeah, and it's like I did too.
And guess what happened?
Nothing right exactly yeah, and you're.
And if you're my age, you've aged out, it's over.
Yeah, we're all good.
I think we aged out a good decade or so ago.
Yeah yep, don't have to worry about any of that.
Yeah exactly, don't have to worry about any of that crap.
So yeah, it's so pathetic, it's so ridiculous.
So yeah yep, this is uh lovely.
It's just absolutely lovely that this is where we're at that.
Um, tonight Trump's gonna give some sort of weird speech.
It's gonna be awesome, and then in the next few days, we're probably gonna start bombing Venezuela.
They weren't happy with our dogs and our cats.
Now they're eating our oil.
Yeah oh, I love that.
That's just.
That was a thing that just like randomly cropped back up again in the past week, where people were like, remember when they lied and said the Haitians weren't eating cats and dogs?
And then everyone looked at these people and said, what the are you talking about?
That was they're like, nope, that totally was the thing that happened.
This is it went away quick, didn't it?
It's funny how the goes away pretty quick, but they brought it back.
Is what i'm saying?
Like yeah, there are a bunch of there's a bunch of right-wingers on twitter right now who are like, yeah, the Haitians were eating cats and dogs.
I guess it's like.
It's like that migrant caravan that pops up every election oh god, every time.
But it's.
It's just this ridiculous thing where the lie that these people used back in the day.
Now they're going to swear that it's the truth and that you were the ones that were lying the whole time.
It's this endless war on reality that Republicans are waging and have been waging for forever, And it's only gotten worse and more intense under Trump.
And it's great.
It's great that we have to deal with this.
We have to deal with a bunch of reality-denying lunatics who are going to spend the next six months telling us, yeah, Venezuela took our oil.
Yes, this attack is justified.
Yes, Venezuela is a nexus point for fentanyl when it's absolutely not.
Yes, it's it's uh it's the second Iraq war all over again, right?
Why are we going after them?
Like, honestly, like, what is the real reason?
Like the official reason or the real reason?
No, like the actual, like, yeah, the real reason.
The real reason is because they have a shit ton of oil and we and we want it.
Okay, okay.
It's an invasion for oil, and it's also because the Hawks and the Trump administration, like Rubio, hate Maduro.
He is a piece of shit.
And this is a this is regime change.
This is a thing where we're going to kick the anti-American dictator scumbag out of power and install a puppet state that gives us a slice of their oil money.
And yeah, we want a new client state in South America.
So why not do this?
I thought that was supposed to be done like under the cover of dark by the CIA or something.
Okay, this is this is Trump we're talking about.
He can't do anything.
Yeah, it's the Yakity Sachs presidency.
Well, a combination of Yakity Sachs and the Imperial March.
Yep.
All of it sucks.
That's good because I don't think the kids know have any idea what Yakety Sachs is.
Yeah.
Well, and we have our listenership obviously skews younger.
So yeah, it's great.
But yeah, it's lovely.
It's been absolutely lovely that we had two mass shootings.
A famous celebrity got brutally murdered and Donald Trump made it all about himself.
And all of that is but the appetizer for the main course of wait before I say just before you do that because I because I wanted to bring this up.
We were talking about the conspiracy theory thing and it reminded me one of the things that the Susie Wiles said was that Vance has been a conspiracy theorist for about 10 years now.
And somebody in the press asked him about that.
And his response is, yeah, I believe in conspiracy theories, but only the ones that are true.
Yeah, I saw that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And Mike Rothschild had a good response to that.
He was like, that's what every conspiracy theorist ever says.
Yeah.
And I retweeted, well, I reposted him on Blue Sky, and I commented that very rarely are conspiracy theories ever proven to be true.
And most conspiracy theories arise from a real conspiracy, but like MKUltra, nobody knew MKUltra was going on while it was going on, except for like, you know, the victims and a few select others.
And even some of the victims didn't know what was going on.
Right.
And then it, and, you know, like all of this.
So, and Roswell didn't even become a thing to like 20, 30 years after it happened.
So, you know, conspiracy theories very rarely turn out to be true.
And I like to tell people that, you know, like I like to use like the Morpheus meme.
What if I told you conspiracy theories are the real conspiracy?
Conspiracy theories distract you from actual conspiracies that are going on.
And like all the 9-11 bullshit distracts you from the fact that Saudi Arabia helped fund it.
That's the real conspiracy.
And it's hidden because of conspiracy theories.
But yeah, sorry, I just wanted to get that out before I forgot about it again.
So what were you about to bring up?
The main course.
Yeah, the main course was just war on the Venezuelan war.
That's all I'm saying.
I'm sorry.
I thought I was stopping you before you got to a big story because I just wanted to no, no, oh god, no, no, Jesus Christ, no, I'm totally out of gas.
I was getting ready to pivot to the end of the podcast.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, I boy, did I have nothing?
Man, that was a great question.
I'd like to thank my two male co-hosts for allowing me to speak during this episode.
And I'd like to thank you for getting the X chromosomes to outnumber the Y chromosomes.
I just tend to go, I tend to get all trumpy and like lose my train of thought and shit.
And that's why, and I don't always know what's going on, but yeah, you talk about like conspiracy theories and shit.
Oh man, I could go all day on general topic.
It's like when we hit your wheelhouse, you just oh man, you mentioned 9-11 or just like the general topic of conspiracy theories.
And boom, I am just, I am there.
Off to the races.
Yes.
9-11 is to me what JFK is to poker.
So, yeah.
Okay.
So thank you for all that.
I can feel the crippling lack of energy that we have now.
So I'm just going to call this here.
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Why are you going to the SMR voice?
Oh, I don't know why.
I'm just, I'm just, I'm just there.
I'm just there.
You're getting all Bob Ross for a second there.
Oh, I'm ready to throw money at you.
It's awesome that, like, again, I'm trying to get out of the pod.
And my co-hosts are like, nope, fuck you, Mike.
We're doing another five.
I'm sorry.
I just had to say something.
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