This was recorded before the arrest of the suspect. Mike, Haley, Eric, and Steph talk about the shooting of Charlie Kirk and the conspiracy theories that have already cropped up around it. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/hellwqrld. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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| The Adventures in Hellworld podcast talks in depth about QAnon. | |
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| Hello everybody. | |
| I am Mike Reigns, aka Poker in Politics, and welcome to another episode of Adventures in Hellworld. | |
| This one is your first ever seven-hour long episode. | |
| Just Jesus Christ. | |
| Did all the news have to happen today and tomorrow yesterday? | |
| I think it did. | |
| Anyhow, to break this all down with you is Haley aka Chaley, aka Arizona Right Watch. | |
| Hello everybody. | |
| Um You know nothing ever happens, they say. | |
| Um Yeah. | |
| Yeah, the the the years where nothing happens, and then weeks when decades happen, that all that stuff, yes. | |
| Famous Mike Reigns quote. | |
| Yes as we podcast. | |
| Not me. | |
| I was one who coined that, yes. | |
| I'm also trained by Eric the Deep said Operative. | |
| Hey, um, I I had something kind of witty to say, but uh man. | |
| It's just man. | |
| Yep. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Feeling all that. | |
| And Steph's here also. | |
| Hi, Steph. | |
| Hi, I'm exhausted. | |
| But on the bright side, on the bright side, it took us less than 15 minutes to introduce you this time. | |
| Yes. | |
| And uh didn't you didn't didn't you have a big thing for your intro? | |
| Oh yes. | |
| Um, I wanted to give birthday wishes to Ross, and you can follow him at a restless native, and we gave him a shout-out on our Twitch stream last night, so I'm not sure if his birthday actually is 9-11 or not, but a happy 9-11 and a happy birthday, Ross. | |
| Happy birthday, Frost. | |
| Um This isn't the one that founded Silk Road, is it? | |
| No, no, I my friends aren't that cool. | |
| I just looked him up and I Wow, Disney Ross. | |
| Ross, I think you're actually cooler than that other Ross. | |
| So what up? | |
| I I just looked him up and he was already following me, so yo-yo, but uh somehow I wasn't following like Twitter does this thing where it'll just randomly unfollow people. | |
| Because I recognize his his avatar, so I know that I've interacted with him, but somehow uh I I I stopped following him at some mysterious point. | |
| Yeah, he um he's he's a huge fan of Hellworld. | |
| He like Oh, yeah, huge fan. | |
| Yeah, and he he was excited when he found out like I was like a permanent co-host. | |
| He was like, Yes. | |
| Is he the is he the guy who used to call himself Ross McFee or am I thinking of someone else? | |
| No, that's him. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| Okay, yeah, I know I knew him. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Oh happy birthday, Ross. | |
| Happy birthday! | |
| Well, they say it's your birthday, it's my birthday too. | |
| Na na na na na. | |
| Or whatever. | |
| Was that supposed to be the Beatles? | |
| Yes. | |
| That's what I had a teacher that used to do that on people's birthday. | |
| I think it's a Beatles reference, but it is, it's a Beatles song, but but wow. | |
| I'm not referencing the Beatles. | |
| I'm referencing an old teacher. | |
| I say good because uh John Lennon just rolled over in his grave at that. | |
| Oh, I'm sorry. | |
| I I'm not a fan. | |
| And sorry the listeners who don't like that. | |
| I know that people like the Beatles. | |
| I'm sorry that I just remembered on Beatles fans do exist. | |
| I have heard this. | |
| Can confirm. | |
| Right. | |
| What the listeners don't know is that this podcast episode is really just gonna be about us shitting on the Beatles, Elvis, Grateful Dead, Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd. | |
| Yeah, more like Dark Side of My Glass. | |
| I don't mind. | |
| You know. | |
| Let's say it, Mike, Mike. | |
| Tell everybody one good thing, please, before we before we start this episode. | |
| Oh uh one good thing. | |
| Well, uh one good thing is um, I mean, next week uh when we record the pod, it'll be a day away from when I get my VIP uh concert with garbage, so that will be super awesome. | |
| Assuming there's still isn't America a week from now. | |
| Uh we'll just hoping hoping hoping we can just make it to next Thursday and then Americans can just explode like the bluesmobile at the end of the movie. | |
| That's all I'm asking for. | |
| Just just give me a week. | |
| One more week, you pricks, and then it can all go to shit. | |
| I just wanna I just wanna uh I just want to style I want to just show off my stylish Mika Parks and jersey to Shirley and the boys. | |
| I know they'll love it. | |
| It's really funny because I've been I've been seeing some of the VIP photos that people have been getting and like the bands in the background and everyone else is in the foreground, and they're all wearing band shirts basically, and uh one group uh they all did karate poses and they got garbage to karate poses behind them, which was funny, but I'm just like no one's made the move to no one's made the power move to use uh the packers on them. | |
| So I think they'll get a kick out of that. | |
| But um get them to record a new theme song for us for just one episode. | |
| Oh, yeah, I'm gonna get right on that. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Oh, I like from everything I've seen about this. | |
| The people that are handling this uh VIP thing, this is the most just absolute uh like get you in, give you a slap on the ass, get you out kind of thing possible. | |
| I mean I I mean hey, uh they're all older than dirt. | |
| So I mean, Shirley's a spry 58, and she's by far the youngest of the four of them. | |
| So I mean, I don't begrudge them anything. | |
| Jesus Christ. | |
| The fact that they're even still going on the road is crazy. | |
| So uh I'm not really worried about I'm I I'm thinking of getting into Silk Song. | |
| It's the new hotness online that I'm seeing the it's like this uh I've been hearing a lot of references to that game. | |
| Yeah, it's like a it's a it's like a Metroid platformer that's got like some level of difficulty to it that's frustrating people, and I believe uh Metroidvania is what they call that. | |
| Yeah, like I I'm looking at it and I enjoyed Cuphead. | |
| I thought Cuphead was really cool, so I'm down okay. | |
| I'm down for like that kind of just sort of uh like 2D scroller, like difficulty thing. | |
| Like Elden Ring, I was out on so goddamn fast. | |
| I played the Elden Ring for like two hours and was like, nope, fuck this. | |
| This is difficulty porn and I can't handle it, but uh I'm I'm like that's why I never play Cuphead, because I'm like, I don't feel like spending half an hour on a boss. | |
| Oh, it wasn't that bad. | |
| I mean, it was difficult, but it wasn't that bad. | |
| But uh, I mean Elven Ring. | |
| The problem with Elden Ring is like literally people were like cheating the game where they're like, if you sidestep this boulder for two hours, you can get to level 20. | |
| I'm like, why do I have to do that? | |
| Why can't I just play the game? | |
| Why do I have to cheat to get experience? | |
| I said that's some Elder Scrolls kind of stuff. | |
| I'm Always seeing that like uh like in Oblivion, you're like, find a corner where there's somebody uh in the room and then just crawl in that corner for five hours, and you will max out your sneak skill. | |
| And I'm like, awesome. | |
| The next five hours I'm just holding forward on my controller. | |
| That would that made me laugh because uh someone, one of my friends was playing poker, and this guy sat down at the table, uh bought in and then put his laptop on uh on a chair next to him and set it up to bot fishing on World of Warcraft, and he just like checked he just checked it every now and then to make sure Maud wasn't catching him for botting. | |
| So he was just grinding fishing while playing poker. | |
| It was great. | |
| I wanted to add about your VIP ticket when when you try to convince them to do a theme song for us, tell them that it should be called I'm only happy when Mike Rains. | |
| The the collective groan that will echo through the room will shame me for the rest of my life. | |
| I just love that Steph is just setting me up for the most egregious failure possible. | |
| I don't want you to be able to go out in public again. | |
| I want your life to be actually ruined. | |
| How about the hell world is not enough? | |
| Zing, that was like painful, but not. | |
| I mean I'm going to get the I'm I'm I I I love that I just love no, I just I just love the idea that like I'm gonna get the I I have a chance. | |
| I have a chance to squeeze in one question to these people before they kick us out of this VIP experience, and now you guys are like, no, come on, Mike, do a type five. | |
| Do a type five for them. | |
| Grab the mic and just yuck it up. | |
| That would be just grab the mic and tell them that you're gonna do a cover of a garbage song, and it's about the FBI and it's called number one cash. | |
| I I cannot I cannot tell you how much this segment is hurting me. | |
| I well then why are you doing this to me? | |
| I just love the idea that you're come on, you know, Steph's in a torture porn, so apparently. | |
| I just like Mike, I just want I I just want to piss you off right now. | |
| That's my I just want Mike to be like really upset right now. | |
| And it because I I the best part about this was this segment began with let's do a one good thing so everyone will feel better before we get to the darkness. | |
| And then everyone's listening to people, not you. | |
| Yeah, everyone just walks over to me and starts poking me. | |
| Like I'm just like little torture bear, just like zap, zap, zap, zap, zap. | |
| Hey Mike, your stupid band. | |
| I got a dumb joke for your dumb band, idiot. | |
| Bap, bap, bop, bap. | |
| Well, I mean, well, I mean, it really it's Stephanie's fault for challenging a dad to a bun contest. | |
| Yeah, that is true. | |
| But that's that's I mean, that that yeah, that that's me. | |
| That's my world, you know. | |
| His job. | |
| Well, my one my one good thing for the music world is now you can go to Disney World and hear a nine-inch nails song while you're on a roller coaster. | |
| So that's kind of cool. | |
| The Tron, the Tron ride is using the new Nine Inch Nails song for the new Tron movie. | |
| I'm like, that's cool. | |
| Because Nine Inch Nails like did the soundtrack for the movie. | |
| Yeah, yeah. | |
| But I think I it's just like we're in the world now where Trent Reznor is. | |
| Wait, are you thinking? | |
| Are you thinking of Daf Punk doing the second Tron movie? | |
| No, but that is not Nine Inch Nails is doing the current movie. | |
| Yeah, I didn't know there was a current movie. | |
| Oh my god. | |
| Yeah, there is a tron movie. | |
| I better go. | |
| I better go upstairs and throw out my Tron t-shirt because I just shamed myself. | |
| I just what is hilarious about that is and this also shows that you don't watch football because Jesus Christ, that Tron movie commercial was the only thing on Sunday during all the NFL games. | |
| It was just like boy howdy, were you gonna know about a Tron movie because you were seeing it in between every break in action during the football games? | |
| Yeah, all I know is that the Bears lost because uh because one of my coworkers came in wearing a morning shroud, so you know that told me everything I needed to know. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I've never seen Tron. | |
| Are they good? | |
| Is Tron's good? | |
| The first one's good. | |
| The second one's decent. | |
| Like, I mean, I it like I think if it wasn't a Tron movie, I would have liked it a lot more. | |
| But you know, but uh the soundtrack for the second one is okay, but the reconfiguration is our daff punk's best work. | |
| No, The reconfigured is the remix of Tron Legacy is the best soundtrack next to Velvet Goldmine. | |
| What about OG Tron? | |
| Like the 80s. | |
| It was a good movie. | |
| It was it was it was a fun, yeah. | |
| So it's it's a fun romp through uh what people thought cyberspace might look like back in the 80s. | |
| Yeah, and the sequel is very like cyber goth or cyberpunk, but not the video game, like cyberpunk was a thing long before that video game, but it it the the whole aesthetic is very cyber goth. | |
| I I was like looking at it, I was like, hey, I have those boots. | |
| Yeah, and I bet you Daf Punk does the soundtrack, and they actually appear in the movie as themselves at one point. | |
| Oh, I didn't know that. | |
| Yeah, they're yeah, they're the DJs in the bar in the in the in the one scene where they're in a bar. | |
| So uh one good thing for Eric. | |
| Uh I've been trying to think of one this whole time. | |
| Well, I gotta I mean I I got I got a fun event coming up on Saturday, and I don't want to say more than that about it because I don't need people tracking me down or nothing. | |
| But yeah, I do I do have something to look forward to for Saturday. | |
| I'll say that much. | |
| That's good. | |
| We love events that are normal and not like a nightmare. | |
| Yes, good queen, wholesome fun is is what it's gonna be, and I'll say no more on the subject. | |
| He's going to an orgy folks. | |
| Okay, yeah, I do as soon as I said that I should have specified. | |
| I I I I mean it. | |
| It would it I happen to archaic it actually is gonna be wholesome fun. | |
| Steph, you got anything good going on? | |
| You're playing the Sims still, you just did a thing. | |
| She's not she just talked about the movie, she just talked about the Disney. | |
| I I like this that Haley's like, Steph, your one good thing, not good enough. | |
| Okay, yeah, okay, Steph. | |
| Okay, okay, Steph, better one good thing. | |
| Take two actions. | |
| Okay. | |
| C minus, try again. | |
| I'm not actually playing the game as much. | |
| I actually spend way less time playing the game because like I'll load the game up, test the items that I made, and I'll be like, you know what? | |
| I'd really, really like a poster of Alex Jones getting punched, so then I'll quit the game and I'll go and I'll make new stuff. | |
| Whatever, whatever makes you happy, you know. | |
| And I'm learning photo editing. | |
| Like I'm learning, and GIMP is one of the is like really complex. | |
| It's a really it's free, but it's really complex. | |
| And I had a friend from Blue Sky who gave me like a little like a one-hour tutoring lesson over the weekend, and he showed me a few tips and tricks. | |
| And I'm I'm learning, and um eventually I'll get into Blender, and that's like 3D computer 8 stuff. | |
| So I'm I'm having fun, and I'm also having fun on Pinterest because if you do a search on Pinterest for miniatures and papercraft, everything I need to make items for my Sims is right there. | |
| So I'm just in love. | |
| I'm just having fun with that. | |
| That's good. | |
| Um day you'll be making a video game. | |
| So anyway, I I'd like to make episode over. | |
| I like I like that Haley didn't have a one good thing. | |
| I like that we No, I don't have to be. | |
| I like that this whole I I just I just love that this basically was just uh beat Mike with a stick segment, and then everyone else just like bundled on it. | |
| And now we're here, and now we're here where Charlie Kirk has passed away at the age of 31 as a result of being shot at a uh like he was doing one of his it was like America Comeback was the name of the event on the that's what I saw on the tent. | |
| And there were big signs on the front of the tent that said prove me wrong, because he was there to own libs with facts and logic. | |
| And uh the last words out of his mouth were about gang Violence because he was arguing with someone about who was doing more shootings. | |
| And he was like, Does that include gang violence or not? | |
| And then uh he got shot, and that was um like jarring as hell, and I saw a bunch of videos at distance. | |
| Yeah, yeah. | |
| Uh I saw a bunch of photo videos at distance, and then I saw the up close video, and immediately was like, No, and like went away from it because that was uh hideous. | |
| Um yeah, I unfortunately saw the uh the up close video without wanting to because uh somebody somebody put it on my timeline and like you know it just auto-played, so I looked up like what's this? | |
| I'm like, oh my god, right, exactly. | |
| Thanks, thanks, default X settings for would you like to see a snuff film? | |
| Y slash N default why that's good, that's normal, yeah. | |
| So I had someone else at work say the same thing happened to them. | |
| So apparently this is just people are just like gleefully posting this thing, you know, for everybody to see, which is which is disturbing, right? | |
| Yeah, just just turn a major uh a major social media platform into faces of death. | |
| And again, also like I just want to say it's it that like that kind of stuff is a lot like conspiracy theories. | |
| Back in the day, you had to go looking for it. | |
| It was not looking for you, and I think that's how it should be. | |
| If you want to see that stuff, yeah, it should be, you know, I don't think Ogris is around anymore or whatever. | |
| But if you want to see that shit, that should be something that you have to find on your own. | |
| And I know this for a fact because I have found that stuff on my own. | |
| People who don't want to see that stuff, and I'm not saying I I like that stuff in some creepy way. | |
| I was I want it to be a mortician, so like that stuff fascinates me. | |
| And it it traumatizes me, like, but I can I can consume it without like you know what I mean? | |
| Like, there's a trauma there, but like I'm able to handle it. | |
| But like people who don't want to see that shit, they shouldn't have to, and that's not right, and that's not fair. | |
| Um, it's also like incredibly like seeing gore is like a radicalizing component, like it does desensitize you and radicalize you, and right now, uh, I'm sure everybody can already know to say the least that the right wing is definitely using this moment to be a little spicy right now, | |
| and I think like, yeah, putting a guy on the timeline autoplay, just like basically cut to this five seconds where his neck is just splattering, um, is definitely gonna radicalize a lot of people. | |
| Um, especially in his orbit. | |
| There's like, you know, turning point USA was is headquartered here, and Charlie lived here, and his wife, who is Miss America or Miss Arizona, um is from here, and they have a family here, and every single politician here knows who Charlie Kirk is, and um to say that they are out for blood right now is um a bit of an understatement, like people calling for war. | |
| There's websites that are doxing people right now that are saying like even mildly mild criticisms of Charlie. | |
| Um some folks have lost their job, like a journal, a sports journalist here for um like a Phoenix like news like sports outlet. | |
| Um, and he's the main journalist for the Phoenix Suns got fired for basically like making a three-part thread that said like highlighted Kirk's quotes about gun violence um regarding school shootings, | |
| and um like highlighted that like yeah, he was a bigot, and it was like pretty tame in my opinion, and he lost his job, and a few other people have lost their jobs in media for like saying like kind of pretty mild criticism in my opinion. | |
| One writer for like a Florida outlet was fired for asking uh Congressman Randy Fine about his position on campus carry and like gun control and lost his fucking like he's suspended from his media outlet. | |
| Um I don't know about you guys, but like I think like media's been kind of whitewashing Kirk's views a little bit, quite a bit, in my opinion. | |
| Yeah, uh yeah, I was saying that before we started. | |
| Uh I saw us like every article I was reading. | |
| This is even before he died. | |
| This is just when you know people weren't sure if he was gonna pull through or not, and they're all referring to him as like political activist or or you know, Trump influencer, you know, just the the most sanitized terminology they can come up with to describe him. | |
| Like they wouldn't even say like fire brand or anything like that. | |
| Just you know, he he's a guy who has political opinions. | |
| Right. | |
| Oh, yeah, they they love doing this kind of thing where they're not gonna tell you what he actually believed and what he actually was saying. | |
| They're just gonna tell you that he was a right wing thought leader, that he was some a conservative pushing for traditional American values, which means that blacks were better off under slavery or Jim Crow instead of where they are now in modern society, and that uh trans people are scum and should be eradicated. | |
| The gays should be stoned to death. | |
| Like all of the all of these things which Charlie Kirk has said uh are just whisked away because we don't want to anger the God Emperor by bringing up the actual record of what this guy stood for. | |
| We're just gonna tell you that he was a bog standard right-wing conservative who just wanted to have good old-fashioned good faith debates on college campuses, which he absolutely didn't. | |
| The whole point of his thing is just to own libs by shouting over them if they come at him with too much information. | |
| And if he finds a dumb college student, which is really easy because most college students are dumb, he then dunks on them and gets caught, and then that gives him content for his uh his social media. | |
| It's like Charlie Kirk crush his idiot atheist about Christianity and the resurrection of Christ. | |
| Because I mean, even if the kid the college kid isn't necessarily dumb, he doesn't have the breadth of knowledge that Charlie Kirk brings to the table, especially since he was probably studying up on it right beforehand. | |
| Yeah. | |
| That's a whole thing. | |
| He was like the ch he was like the James O'Keefe of college campuses. | |
| Everything had to be like a gotcha. | |
| Yes, exactly. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Speaking of which, uh speaking of James O'Keefe, wasn't there I'm trying to remember, wasn't there something that he did recently? | |
| Uh he he like he like he like released some video that's really propaganda that like Epstein related, but it's anti-Trump. | |
| But I don't trust James O'Keefe. | |
| Yeah, that was that was the thing. | |
| It was like it was it. | |
| Right. | |
| That was the part that got me about it was that it was uh that that he's that it was not trying to trap a reporter into uh into believing a false story that you know supports liberal talking points. | |
| It was like it was something very different from what he's known for. | |
| I'm trying to remember exactly what it was. | |
| Uh the Obama, it was during the Obama era. | |
| Uh what was it called? | |
| Like in his recent years, he does OMG media. | |
| Acorn. | |
| Wasn't it Acorn? | |
| He got them shut down. | |
| Yes. | |
| Yep, you are correct. | |
| Yes. | |
| Yep, Acorn was his big win. | |
| And after that, he's just been like chasing after that uh he's been chasing out that high ever since. | |
| He does Oh, here it was. | |
| I found it out. | |
| It it was uh okay, uh sorry, but uh it was one of those honeypot things that he liked to do where he where he where where this woman was dating this guy who uh like uh acting I'm reading on the online right now, acting deputy chief of the US Department of Justice, where the guy was basically saying, Yeah, so we cut Gawain Maxwell a deal and stuff like that. | |
| So yeah, it was definitely anti-Trump pro-Epstein stuff. | |
| And then he was and then uh he's like, Yeah, the the Epstein files exist, but you know, we're keeping a lid on it, and then so the DOJ and him had to fly into damage control mode after that. | |
| I I sent it to you guys in the sorry, go ahead. | |
| No, it's good. | |
| Yeah, Torstein, maybe you can break the news? | |
| I had a meeting with you, and you said you were smart. | |
| Yeah, it came to a spare-for-slave from you, Torstein. | |
| Yeah, I'll do some present to do some cell to do so. | |
| But Holly Vent it for Vikimerfuck. | |
| Oh, that's... | |
| Yeah, maybe not a dumb idea. | |
| No, but you have determined that the fruit will be. | |
| Yes, yes. | |
| Red fruit. | |
| Get to Ice-Bedrift. | |
| The company will give you more money. | |
| Ice. | |
| Rune! | |
| Bleia! | |
| Yeah, I used it on Bailey, for her to have left it. | |
| Yeah, but now it's good that you now get 50% of the benefits of Bleier at Coprics. | |
| For sure, stick in on. | |
| Faster Music. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Thank you. | |
| I was just gonna say one of my friends sent me um a Twitter post. | |
| I sent it in our group chat of like someone who was like they were like proposing a wag the dog scenario for the Kirk assassination where they're like uh tri the Trump administration just assassinated Kirk to draw away attention from the Epstein stuff. | |
| I'm like Oh yeah, I've seen a lot of stuff. | |
| Oh my god, yeah. | |
| Oh my god. | |
| And then there were people right away saying it was fake, and I always push back against that shit because I know the dark roads that that leads to. | |
| And it's it's it's sick. | |
| I mean, a man died, uh you know, and he's not even cold in the ground yet, and you're already trying to use him to prop up your own personal narrative. | |
| And and the other the other point is I don't I never like Kirk, okay. | |
| I I'm I'm you know, he was a shitty vile human being, but people saying that it's fake, like, are you gonna deny the firsthand trauma of the people that were there? | |
| Are you gonna deny that too? | |
| That that those people are traumatized. | |
| Every single person there. | |
| There was one woman, I was listening to a Utah news station yesterday, and one woman was like, she was like, I'm gonna go make a therapy appointment right away. | |
| I can't believe that I saw this. | |
| And that's messed up because all those, you know, so when you deny that some when you deny Sandy Hook happened, when you deny Columbine, when you deny like all these different events, you're not just denying the lives and deaths of those people, you're denying the trauma of the witnesses and the families, and that that that's fucked up, but people just don't care. | |
| Yeah, um like a lot of stuff is getting lost in the narrative here because it's just like Charlie Kirk killed, or like Charlie Kirk shooting. | |
| It was a school shooting. | |
| Uh, and it was packed like sardines with students because like I think a lot of people don't understand turning point USA. | |
| It has like the stereotype of being like kind of boomer, like only boomers like it, but like Kirk has did kind of like do this campaign on TikTok that like the modern college student generally knows what turning point USA is. | |
| Um so yeah, it was like packed with a lot of college students, like a shit ton. | |
| And there was like there was uh like gripers there that are known, like streaming. | |
| There were liberals there that are known that are streaming. | |
| Dean Winters or Withers was there, who's like a popular Zoomer liberal on TikTok, and he was he was trying to he was trying to talk about it and just like basically crying on TikTok, like while trying to talk about it, like traumatized. | |
| People were traumatized. | |
| He said people were throwing up and crying like as they were trying to escape. | |
| Uh there was that one guy though, Mr. Uh uh Elder TikTok who was like what as soon as Kirk got shot, there was a guy on TikTok who's a Mormon with elder TikTok, like an elder, uh, and he was like, oh my god, Charlie Kirk just got shot. | |
| We're up here is Mormon Central, Like, go to church, follow the Mormon church. | |
| Like, follow uh, you know, the fucking elder TikTok. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| He said he said Christ will save you, which was absolutely most ridiculous thing you could say when Jesus just let Charlie Girk get shot. | |
| But Christ Yeah, I saw a lot of people saying that, and I didn't understand the context of it till now because uh because usually I I look at this stuff with the volume off, so I don't hear what everybody's saying. | |
| I'm sorry, go ahead. | |
| This guy was literally doing everything short of saying like, comment, and subscribe as he was running from Oh, yeah. | |
| He was it was just it was just follow for updates, uh yeah. | |
| Uh prayers up to Charlie Kirg, the the Kirkman, God bless you. | |
| Good luck, bro. | |
| Uh yeah, there was a shooting here. | |
| It was just what like literally everything is content. | |
| I just uh some one of you mentioned it in our group chat. | |
| They were just like, man, it would have been great if that was the like after after the limo went under the triple underpass and Saprudery just spun the camera around to himself and be like, hey everybody, let's comment and subscribe. | |
| Yes, that's a murder. | |
| That's that's why I reposted it, and I I reposted it with uh a plane just hit my building, I'm trapped on the 87th floor, there's smoke. | |
| Oh my god, a dude just jumped from the floors above me, zooms in, like and subscribe. | |
| That's easy that's exactly like and and if we had had TikTok on 9-11, like the death count would have been like twice, at least twice as high. | |
| It would have been like 6700 that day instead of like 3,000. | |
| And I know that's more than twice, but like because people would be stopping to like film themselves, escaping and shit, and like I just I mean you see this kind of footage and you're like it's exploitative and it's dangerous, and it's like, and some kid, some 11-year-old boy just got killed doing a TikTok challenge, a dig a ding-dong ditch. | |
| And so a few people have died from that. | |
| Yeah, I've seen like at least two different stories about that. | |
| Yeah, like TikTok shouldn't be banned because it's linked to China. | |
| TikTok should be banned because it's basically the 4 chan of like it did all this stupid, all these stupid challenges, all this stupid stuff, and everybody wants to like when you see someone get shot, your your first response should either get yourself to safety, or if you're a brave motherfucker, your first response should be run towards the j danger and see how you can help. | |
| I'm one of those people sometimes. | |
| I run towards danger when I hear a smoke alarm going off, or I hear what I think sounds like someone crying or screaming, I run towards that shit, and like those should be your first reactions. | |
| Your first reaction should never be, how can I monetize this? | |
| It's just so fucked. | |
| It just it just drives me crazy. | |
| I'm sorry. | |
| That's okay, but on that note, I would like to point out that we're recording this on the 24th anniversary of 9-11. | |
| And I honestly thought that we were gonna devote a portion of this to that until the events of yesterday, which kind of blows it out of the water. | |
| Well, I got to do a four-hour stream last night. | |
| Sorry. | |
| Oh, I just said people can listen to our old episode about that. | |
| But yeah, I know I yeah, and I was watching a video about 9-11 too about this guy who uh saved a bunch of people, then went back up to go save a bunch more people and uh ended up dying himself, but he did save a whole bunch of people. | |
| Was it Wells? | |
| Was it Wells Crowder? | |
| Yeah, the man in the red bandana. | |
| I talked about him a little bit last night. | |
| I we we uh we did the we didn't even discuss conspiracy theories. | |
| We just did um the woman who wasn't there, the woman who faked being there for like the moonchosen lady who pretended she was there and stuff like that. | |
| And um didn't George Santos claim that his mother died on 9-11. | |
| Yeah, and then and then claimed he she died three years later as well. | |
| That's that's talent. | |
| My mom only died once. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Um he tried to walk it back and claim that he never actually said she died, just that she was really traumatized by it. | |
| But no, he said she died. | |
| No, you said she was dead, dude. | |
| No, we got you. | |
| So um, you know, I'm gonna just like highlight a couple interesting comments uh regarding the Kirk assassination, uh, because Turning Point put out a statement this morning uh that described Kirk as America's greatest uh Charlie has become America's greatest martyr to the freedom of speech he so adored. | |
| Um and I don't know if you guys saw um like uh I believe it was I have to scroll. | |
| Um the deputy secretary of state putting out a statement that says in light of yesterday's horrific assassination of a leading political figure, which is like he wasn't elected. | |
| Um I wanna underscore that foreigners who glorify violence and hatred are not welcome to visit our country. | |
| I've been disgusted to see some uh on social media praising rationalizing or making light of the event and have directed our consular officials to undertake appropriate action. | |
| Please feel to bring such comments by foreigners to my attention so that the State Department can uh protect American people. | |
| Uh which is pretty wild in my opinion. | |
| Um, so that was setting up thought police. | |
| I mean, okay, and then I'm gonna read it. | |
| I mean, I know I know it's cliche. | |
| I know it's cliche to bring no, you're totally right. | |
| I'm I'm literally about to read you one that's like slightly long from uh rep Clay Higgins. | |
| Uh this is wild. | |
| Uh he says, I'm going to use constitutional uh oh congressional authority and every influence with big tech platforms to mandate immediate ban for life of every post or commenter that belittled the assassination of Charlie Kirk. | |
| If they ran their mouth with their smart ass hatred celebrating the heinous murder of that beautiful young man who dedicated his whole life to delivering respective conservative truth into the hearts of liberal enclave universities, armed only with a Bible, a microphone, and a constitution. | |
| Those profiles must come down. | |
| So I'm going to lean forward in this fight, demanding that big tech have zero tolerance for violent political hate content, the user be banned from all platforms forever. | |
| I'm going to go after their business licenses. | |
| Their businesses will be blacklisted aggressively. | |
| They should be cooked from every school and their driver's license should be revoked. | |
| I'm going to cancel with extreme prejudice these evil sick animals who celebrated the assassination of Charlie Kirk. | |
| End. | |
| And in response to this, people have gone through Clay Higgins'timeline to then post the tweet that he sent out after Paul Pelosi was nearly killed by a right-wing nut, which is a photo that may or may not be AI of Nancy Pelosi with her hands on her forehead. | |
| And the caption he wrote is, that moment you realized the nudist, hippie, male prostitute, LSD guy was the reason your husband didn't make it to your fundraiser. | |
| Yeah, just total stand-up guys. | |
| It's not hard to condemn all acts of political violence. | |
| That's not hard. | |
| I'm sitting here right now doing it. | |
| I don't want... | |
| Even people that I despise, that I hate, with every fiber of my being, I would not want to see them get assassinated like that. | |
| I would not. | |
| I mean, if they died in their bed of a heart attack or they tripped and fell down the stairs, broke their neck. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yeah, alright. | |
| But for someone else to do it for to not be an accident or not something that you know was like internal health related drug overdose, whatever, like I an assassination. | |
| Kids, I'm going to hit you up to the latest trend, okay? | |
| Assassinations, not cool, not cool. | |
| And um, you don't have to be a you shouldn't have to be a Christian or an atheist or a Democrat or Republican to understand that it all you need to be is human. | |
| And uh yeah, yeah, political violence is bad, period. | |
| I I I said this on Twitter. | |
| It's uh I I don't like violence at all, but I especially don't like political violence because something like this is just gonna lead to more violence. | |
| You're already seeing it. | |
| People screaming for every lib they ever met to be hung from a tree. | |
| It's just uh Yeah, it yeah, it's crazy. | |
| And um, you know, the the the like the consequences of what's gonna come of this, like the rhetoric, they already had it ready. | |
| I mean, and I and uh I checked InfoWars last night, Alex Jones's headline is Democrat Deep State murder uh murders Charlie Kirk. | |
| Like they haven't even caught the shooter yet. | |
| It is perfect, and and I know that's what Alex makes his brand butter off of, but I think everybody has their own private idea or opinion of who did it or what their motive might be. | |
| But guess what? | |
| Until the person's caught, you don't say anything, but now we're in another situation where if this shooter who killed Charlie Kirk ends up being a Trump supporter or a neo-Nazi. | |
| If I'm not saying they are, I'm saying if I'm choosing my words very carefully, if that person who the shooter ends up being in some way, shape or form politically aligned with the right wing. | |
| We have the the FBI, the government we have now. | |
| I mean, they're just whatever the truth is, it's gonna be that it's gonna be like the narrative will be that liberals did it. | |
| Like, no matter who they are or Jews or whoever your preferred hate group is. | |
| Um, but now that you're also your preferred hated group. | |
| Yeah, yeah, we can't trust the FBI. | |
| Like, and it was funny yesterday, like that the like some of the news reports, they were like, President Trump is confirming the death of Kirk, and I'm like, I'm gonna have to wait for like an actual confirmation. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| Yeah, that's what that I said that too. | |
| I'm like, I'm gonna like like when the AP said I'm like, okay, now I believe it, because yeah AP went off. | |
| Because I mean as he proved, as you proved minutes, but as you proved minutes after the shooting. | |
| Yeah, Trump's statement, because like I don't think people like get that like that was like an honor to like Kirk, the Kirk family was like, I'm almost certain he was dead by the time he got to the hospital. | |
| The announcement was that he was stable, which is not that could have meant that he was dead, just stabilized. | |
| Yeah, so yeah, not to be borb, but dead is stable. | |
| Uh his wife, as far as I know, was there. | |
| Um so like I in my opinion, they wanted Trump to issue the announcement because they they think he's they are cultists. | |
| That Trump, this is a sense, this is why people are reacting so violently, and I don't think people understand that is because like like why right wingers are responding so violently because Charlie Kirk was essentially a footman in the MAGA cult, and like a pretty high up one. | |
| He was in the um uh like when Trump was inaugurated, but it was like, what was it raining? | |
| There was a reason why they had to move it inside, and then it got like minimized. | |
| Yeah, it was like it was cold or raining or something, yeah. | |
| It was minimized only like a small amount of people. | |
| Like Charlie and his family were there. | |
| Like these are like the the turning point ball every year is haul held at Mar-a-Lago, which is not like a public event. | |
| It's like a private event for turning point people. | |
| Um like the turning point high up influencers. | |
| Like them having Trump announce it was like some like that that was like them being like, yeah, this Trump is Charlie's getting an honor by having Trump announce the news. | |
| Um but you know, I I do uh think that you know, like of course, like people are like can condemn political violence in this situation. | |
| Well um, and I think like that's why the media is partially so hard whitewashing a lot of Kirk's um views uh because I I feel like I'm sure there's some touch of don't speak ill of the dead in there, but they're they're they're taking it too far in my opinion. | |
| Yeah, and like I think it's like an overcorrection of like trying to condemn political violence, but like he was kind of an awful person all around and said awful things and led hate campaigns against people that got them physically harmed themselves and doxxed and ruined their lives. | |
| You got numerous people fired. | |
| Turning point operates a watch list that is meant to target professors and school board members and educators. | |
| Um like turning like Charlie Kirk also mocked the Pelosi uh attack and like laughed about it on his show. | |
| Uh obviously disregarded openly and proudly school shooting deaths as basically just something you gotta deal with. | |
| Um so like and on and the days leading up to him, the last things he posted about this was one of the things I was gonna talk about on the main episode before we got really sidetracked, was that the right and Charlie especially were co-opting this woman's death in North Carolina, | |
| this this Ukrainian refugee who was stabbed on a tr on a light rail uh by a black man and literally doing a clan rally on the timeline, like it was some of the most racist fucking vitriol I've ever I've heard in years, and Charlie was leading a lot of that charge, and I was honestly thinking like this is some of the most inflammatory shit I've ever seen Charlie Kirk post. | |
| Um like, yeah, you know, there's still no motive, and there's still no person arrested, but there's like a million people he pissed off, and I think a million people that like a million reasons why somebody could have gone after Charlie Kirk, because yeah, he pissed a lot of people off. | |
| He went after a lot of people and he ruined a lot of lives. | |
| Um, and that yeah, I don't know. | |
| Yeah, that that's the thing about all of this. | |
| Uh, you guys have already stated it that whoever ends up being the suspect, whatever their reasons are, it's just gonna be hard-baked into it that it was a liberal that did this for liberal reasons. | |
| We already had uh the ridiculous report that came out that the bullets had uh pro-trans and anti-fascist uh carvings in them, and this was uh reported uh by Steven Crowder who how does this prick have access to internal FBI comments and now uh the FBI and the government is walking that statement back and saying, | |
| uh, we don't know about that, we don't know who said that. | |
| Which the Wall Street Journal printed that too. | |
| They were like a super says, and it's like the source was Crowder. | |
| You can't what right yeah, that would that was insane. | |
| That was just absolutely demented that that happened. | |
| And so you ha and what makes that so ridiculous is that why would you trust Steven Crowder on anything? | |
| And why would anyone in our government during this active investigation leak to Crowder of all people about this stuff? | |
| I meant I did also mention uh you guys had mentioned that previously there was like that report that he'd that Kirk had been stabilized. | |
| Uh Glenn Beck went a step further and said that uh Kirk had been stabilized and was receiving blood transfusions. | |
| So maybe don't listen to right wing podcasters and grifters about uh status updates on this story, because uh their record is over two right now. | |
| They're uh they're not good, they're not trustworthy. | |
| And um, also like I I saw a brief video clip of like Glenn Beck, I almost called him Ben Gleck. | |
| Um, Glenn Beck and Megan Kelly like crying, and I couldn't tell if it was real or not, but my first thought was if you know when the shooter, and because it because it really did start with, I mean, there was talk before it with Aurora, but Sandy Hook was when it take off took off. | |
| So I'm just gonna use as an example. | |
| Sandy Hook has become this classic false flag crisis actor, did not happen thing, like that's standard fucking fair now, and so anytime a shooting happens, they deny that it happened, they deny that it's real, but if it's someone that they like who gets shot, then it's real. | |
| If it's a transgender shooting, which I think there have been a total of four, then it's real. | |
| If it's someone that they can paint as a leftist or democrat, then it's real. | |
| So why don't we just be consistent? | |
| I and I know that there's no consistency, there is no consistency. | |
| The whole mindset is uh it's just hypocratic, no, no, not the not the doctor oath, hypocrisy. | |
| Yes, thank you. | |
| Um do no logic. | |
| Um it's there's no logic, there's no sense, there's no formal rational reasoning to a lot of their ideologies. | |
| Like, you know, you have someone like Daniel Burroughs I hate Jews, dude. | |
| You are Jewish, and he but he was a Nazi, he was like friends with Rockwell. | |
| Like there's a hypocrisy baked into it, so they're never ever gonna make any logical sense. | |
| But at some point you you can't say the world is both round and flat. | |
| You have to pick one. | |
| It can't just be round when you want it to be and flat when you don't want it to be. | |
| It's gotta, you know, you've got to pick something that is the same. | |
| All shootings are real, boom, done. | |
| You know, and they don't do that. | |
| There's no shame, there's no reality, they don't care. | |
| They don't I know I know it's it's just just from my background though, like living in this world where I was I I luckily didn't get to the point where I thought all shootings were fake, but I was picking and choosing, and that's not a world you want to live in, | |
| it just isn't like and I and I know people won't listen, maybe someone will, but you know, it's just not the world you want to live in. | |
| And you know, I was telling people on the stream last night. | |
| I'm sorry if I get emotional, but one of the reasons why I'm so fascinated in 9-11 and Sandy Hook, why I got involved in honor, is because I never really fully comprehended the events, I never fully understood the depth, the the horror, the terror, and the lasting effects. | |
| I didn't give a shit. | |
| And in that I lost my grief, and now nearly 24 years later, I'm still grieving 9-11, and we're like, What is it? | |
| It's been like 13 years since Sandy Hook. | |
| I'm still grieving. | |
| You know what my initial reaction to Sandy Hook was? | |
| And then I got into the conspiracy theories. | |
| Like I literally shrugged and said, Oh well. | |
| Because I didn't I didn't care about anything. | |
| And you want to go around saying all shootings are fake. | |
| That's that's where your life's gonna go. | |
| That's that that's where you're gonna end up. | |
| You're gonna end up uh nobody loser who doesn't care about anyone and nobody cares about them. | |
| So that's why I get upset about this stuff. | |
| And I'm sorry for ranting, but I just think people need to understand where this mentality leads. | |
| Whether you're Democrat or Republican, because it's, I've seen the shitlibs doing it too. | |
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| Yeah, blue and out is definitely throw no, it's it's fine, Seth. | |
| But I would say there's definitely a lot of blue and on throwing around crap too about this right now. | |
| So it's yeah. | |
| Yeah, it's it's like every everybody's like go on. | |
| Oh, I'm just seeing people say that like um like kind of from every side in a really hilarious way. | |
| Like you, you know, you're uh that like Charlie started to break with Trump on either Israel or Epstein, it depends who's talking. | |
| But like I can't imagine anything further from the truth. | |
| Like the man is like, oh, am I delayed? | |
| Is that why everybody's like not hearing me right away? | |
| Sorry, listeners because I'm getting like CIA zapped and my whole house's internet has just been bad all day. | |
| So I'm on my phone. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Um, I'll raise my hand when I want to say. | |
| Um but um I forgot what I was talking about. | |
| I'm I'm sorry I derailed you. | |
| I'm I'm a monster. | |
| No, it's good to know that I am lagged. | |
| Uh well the one thing I was gonna bring up is that the conspiracy theories around this have become so vast and so overwhelming. | |
| It's now just talking about the actual shooting isn't enough for people. | |
| Uh now everyone's talking about uh the security that was around Kirk and the hand gestures they were making right before he got shot. | |
| And like were they like sending a message, were they telling the shooter to pull the trigger? | |
| Um and uh uh as people have pointed out, the two guys that are being accused of this are in Kirk's security detail. | |
| The the two men have been spotted at other rallies around Kirk. | |
| So these guys are not people that are trying to kill their meal ticket because their security that Charlie's hired for multiple events. | |
| And what I'm assuming they were doing is they were making these hand gestures because they were communicating to other security guards about things like crowds in the area, because Charlie is outdoors and he's talking to a group of people, but there are still like more people milling around the campus And walking around the pathways. | |
| And all Charlie's done is like put up a tent alongside one of these pathways, put up a couple speakers, grabbed a microphone, and just yelled, debate me, bro, at people that are in his general vicinity. | |
| So I can totally see uh you're a security guard, you see 50 people walking this way down a pathway. | |
| You give a hand sign to other security guards, yo, like eyes on those new 50 people. | |
| We need to make sure they're cool. | |
| Stuff like that. | |
| Because this isn't like an outdoor concert where you just have like the crowd watching the band. | |
| This is an area where you're gonna have like moving parts. | |
| You're gonna have like the main crowd around Charlie Kirk, but you're also gonna have lots of students that are just going from class to class, and those people are milling about and walking down pathways, and you want to get eyes on every new group to make sure that the new group isn't gonna pull shit or do something or like because you have to be on edge when you're Charlie Kirk on a college campus because they're gonna be like shit can happen. | |
| And also, um Kirk basically sets up for like he does his whole live, he he does a live stream every single day, basically in his fucking basement, you know, a studio. | |
| Um but when he does these Ask Me Any Things, he basically sits in one spot and sits there for like four or five hours, and people are supposed to go up and ask him questions. | |
| So, like, yeah, he's a sitting duck in and and he is not a he's not a political figure. | |
| The the security team he has, turning point has their own security team. | |
| Uh so they like try it's like a religious fucking base security team. | |
| Um, but yeah, so like that's why you see the same guys a lot. | |
| Um but yeah, and like there was protesters right above it. | |
| It's like a he was basically in this part of the school that's kind of like it goes down a bit, and he was right in the bot, like right in the center, like right as it ends and kind of all comes down in the bottom. | |
| Um, and like above him was another level where there was protesters holding signs, like there was people wandering around streaming because like these events for Zoomers are kind of like content all around. | |
| Um, like I said, there was like a big liberal. | |
| I've seen plenty of yeah, I've I've seen a lot of people post him like here here's uh here's a college student owning Charlie Kirk. | |
| But wouldn't you wouldn't like I'm not I I can't read a map to save my life. | |
| I I even have trouble with like geocaching with a GPS and stuff, but like and I have no military background, okay? | |
| So I'm an idiot, but what you're describing is him being in a bucket, basically. | |
| That's like shouldn't his security team like the people tasked with security, which I know nothing about, okay. | |
| Um, I know what ingress and egress is because I watch Archer. | |
| Like it's like even I know if you are a person, and you have to always assume in any security situation, I even know this. | |
| You are always a target. | |
| You have to assume that that's what the Secret Service works under the premise of, you know, that's how security works. | |
| So with that mindset, I don't want to be down low. | |
| I want to be up at a higher point where it would be you would have to aim upwards for me. | |
| You don't want someone to have a straight shot or a downward shot. | |
| That's too easy. | |
| I I don't think they can't, I don't think they cared about snipers. | |
| I don't think a sniper was anywhere in their frame of reference as a thing that could happen. | |
| You want they wanted Kirk where they had him because that is where you can get a crowd to get an audience to get questions asked, so you can get content from like what they what they expect what the security is there for is a liberal like freaking out and screaming at him, or maybe like throwing a bottle or doing something like that. | |
| I like when when he got shot, no one like my reaction was, oh Yeah, that was a thing that I totally thought would happen. | |
| Like Charlie Kirk is really a small potatoes. | |
| That guy, I can't imagine that someone had it in their heart to have enough like rage in this world to be like, you know who I'm going to kill today? | |
| Charlie Kirk. | |
| Like that guy, that D-list podcaster, streamer, turning point USA Jamoke. | |
| That's the guy I want to claim the life of. | |
| I mean, he he's just I it it's I just don't imagine that the security in a million years would have thought to themselves that this was gonna be like a sniper attack. | |
| Go ahead, Haley. | |
| Um, also I've been to like a countless number of turning point events, and like they are pretty just not like I said, he's not the president. | |
| Like what they get they get more secure when like Trump shows up to an event or JD Vance, but like when it's just kind of like the the Arizona kind of based group, like just Charlie or Tyler Blair. | |
| Um, like yeah, you can like walk up to him, like it's not he's not he's not he's not the president. | |
| So yeah, I think it's like it's just like just not a safe event for the situation. | |
| It was just like a perfectly bad of like layout for it was basically like an audit, like not an auditorium, like an amphitheater kind of, but like going down, and yeah, he was just at the base of it literally like a bowl, like you said. | |
| Um yeah. | |
| Yeah, uh, so the well I'll go ahead, go ahead. | |
| Go ahead, Steph. | |
| I just went to add when I was watching the the Utah news coverage yesterday, they they did the press conference, and shout out to my Twitch stream co-host Shelby for sending me the link because I would never know how to find this myself. | |
| Um so I'm watching it, and they do the press conference, and I was kind of shocked to hear one of the questions from a reporter. | |
| I don't know who the reporter was, I don't know what the publication was, but you know, it wasn't as far as I know. | |
| I don't think it was like an InfoWars type outlet or anything, but I heard a reporter sounded very professional, a female. | |
| She asks, the two men who were asking him the question about the gun violence right before he was shot. | |
| Have they been detained yet? | |
| So to me, in that reporter's mind, she thinks that them asking that question had something to do with the event. | |
| Like that was kind of a conspiratorial question. | |
| And um, and also I just want to say um that like right-wingers are currently identified, like trying to dox basically anyone that they think is sus. | |
| It's like the modern day, like everybody picking out people in the crowd at the JFK uh event, but when he got assassinated, but they're like picking out people that they feel is a little bit sus, and like, why is this guy doing this? | |
| We're doxing him. | |
| Um, and, um, go ahead, Mike. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yeah, that I I was gonna bring that up was that I think that these security guards uh give with all these hand signs are just uh modern day version of the umbrella man uh from the Kennedy assassination. | |
| Uh if you don't know this, then I don't know how you then you have not listened to me long enough because boy howdy do I talk about this sort of nonsense. | |
| But uh basically umbrella man was a dude that was in the crowd at Daily Plaza, and it was very sunny that day, and in the 1960s, people did not use umbrellas for shade in the in the summer, uh, even though it was November, | |
| but um it was hot, and this one guy is hanging out with an umbrella, and people took photos of that, and they thought it was really weird, and then it became part of conspiracy lore that this guy was um using the umbrella to signal to people that he that more shots were needed to kill the president, | |
| or that he used the umbrella to fire a paralyzing dart into Kennedy's throat, which is why Kennedy didn't move after getting hit in the neck and with Dustly was prey to being shot in the head. | |
| Uh and then uh and the night in in the uh the House Light committee on assassinations, a guy came forward and said he was umbrella man. | |
| He brought the umbrella there because the umbrella was the symbol of Neville Chamberlain, the guy that uh gave uh the Sudaten land to Hitler and the appeasement, and the guy wanted to uh call Kennedy an appeaser by waving like a Chamberlain umbrella at him as Kennedy's limo passed him, and then oops a duopsies the president gets killed right in front of him. | |
| And um I'll finish real quick here. | |
| He he stated I uh if the Guinness Book of Worlds Records had doing the worst thing at the worst possible time, I would be in first place, and no one would be in close second. | |
| So that is the that is the actual story of Umbrella Man. | |
| Go ahead, everyone, because you all had your hands up. | |
| I I was just gonna say really quick, like that they worked that into the um the TV series on Netflix Umbrella Academy, where like the the father that takes in all these like superhero X-Men type children and stuff, it he was the umbrella man and there was a hidden gun in the umbrella. | |
| Oh yeah. | |
| Yeah, yeah, the umbrella man's a big part of conspiracy lore. | |
| Yeah, but he he didn't need to shoot him because cigarette smoking man was already on the job in the uh in the storm drain. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yes, hell yeah, storm drain, the deep cut. | |
| I love it. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I always gotta make the X-Files reference, because I just love how they they said not only did he assassinate Ken Kennedy, he also assassinated uh he also assassinated Martin Luther King. | |
| Because you know, why the hell not? | |
| Oh, of course, of course. | |
| Um the others go ahead. | |
| Oh, sorry. | |
| Uh I just want to say also like that like people were wrongly arrested. | |
| Um they appeared to have arrested a conservative guy because he was like brown. | |
| Um, and they've already like released two people because this is what you get when you put a QAnon person in charge of the FBI. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| Uh so the grandpa who was the first person that was arrested, the old white guy that people saw getting dragged away. | |
| Apparently he was known as like a local nuisance. | |
| And uh people said that after the shooting, he was just like being a jerk, and he was like, I did it, I killed him. | |
| And the police grabbed him because he was being stupid and causing a scene. | |
| And then after they grabbed him, they realized, oh wait, this is grandpa, the dumb local who does shit like this. | |
| Get the fuck out of here, you idiot piece of shit. | |
| And then they had, and then Cash Patel and everyone's like, we got the suspect, everybody. | |
| And then like an hour later, they're like, we have released this person because they didn't do it. | |
| Our biscuit. | |
| And that was the conservative that Haley mentioned who apparently works for Heritage, and again was just grabbed because he's swarthy. | |
| So uh great job, detectives at the FBI for just grabbing the closest brown person and calling the city. | |
| I do gotta say though, I what one thing I do gotta give uh Cash Patel props for is that when he said they released the guy, he he he did it as a quote tweet to his original comment about nabbing the guy. | |
| It's like, okay, well, at least you admit you screwed up. | |
| You're not you're not sweeping this under the rug. | |
| You're like, okay, yeah, I said we caught him and I was wrong. | |
| That's why pencils have erasers, folks. | |
| That's that's what he wants you to think. | |
| That's what he wants you to think. | |
| He wants you to think. | |
| He wants me to think he's reasonable. | |
| If Cash Patel said that's why pencils have erasers, I I'm like, wow, I I've misjudged this man ever so slightly. | |
| He is like he like I thought he was like 99% terrible. | |
| I'm gonna I'm gonna pull him down to like 93% terrible. | |
| That'd be like way too reasonable of a statement. | |
| Oh my god. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Uh so the other conspiracy that I've seen because you you just uh the security guards doing hand signs, that's not enough. | |
| uh the big one is that uh the whole thing was faked because because if you're gonna make a swing go for a home run don't don't just don't just hit a tapper into the middle of the infield let's let's put it in the upper deck let's let's knock it on the lands down street in Fenway yeah and uh these these lunatics uh state that like they saw Kirk make a move right before he got shot uh the blood didn't flow from his neck quickly enough like he had like a contraption in his body | |
| to like make it look like the blood was coming out yeah which congratulations on hiding on his neck a device capable of holding a gallon of blood yeah a squid capable of holding that much that would be yeah and let me tell you something i got to watch an embalming class and this dude was dead that they had but they put the aperture in his carotid wrong and a little blood just start going | |
| i was like oh my god oh my god that that like weirded me out for some reason but like that spray that that's that that's absolutely real and i knew when i saw i saw the graphic close up And in my brain, I'm like on a scale of one to Bud Dwyer, this is about an eight. | |
| And I'm like, yeah, yeah, he's not going to make it. | |
| And if you've seen the Bud Dwyer video, you probably shouldn't. | |
| But it's like red water pouring from his face. | |
| It doesn't look real. | |
| When people are bleeding out through a traumatic terminal injury, it doesn't look real because there's so much of it. | |
| And everybody's so young. | |
| used to movies and unless you're talking about like dead alive or Ichi the killer no the blood that's being shown isn't very accurate and um I've seen real footage other than Charlie Kirk the Bud Dwyer video doesn't look real that's how it looks that's that was absolutely real what happened to Charlie Kirk. | |
| but uh and then there was also uh he has charlie was wearing what's called like a hinge ring and that ring can like you can like flip it you can unhook it and stuff like that because people were pointing out that the ring was on one finger and then after he got shot it was on a different finger but uh people actually have solved that question and it was just that the hinge was open so the made it look like the ring was on a different finger and well i saw one guy saying I saw one guy saying that | |
| the sticking to his shirt which I mean what would that even indicate even if it would if it even if that was real I mean what is there some kind of fake blood that is repelled by cotton I just I don't get what that guy was hitting at. | |
| And the best part about that is that you're basically saying that they screwed up and they used the wrong blood or the wrong shirt. | |
| Or you're going that extra mile to do the whole the Illuminati has to leave clues thing. | |
| Where you're like, oh, look, the shirt isn't bloody enough. | |
| I've proved it. | |
| I caught you, Illuminati. | |
| You had to leave that little hint for me. | |
| And I, the decoder, unraveled it. | |
| Oh, God, they're so tiresome. | |
| And that's the thing is that we live in a post-reality world where you look at a piece of video. | |
| You come up with bullshit. | |
| You throw that bullshit as hard as you can at people. | |
| They buy into it. | |
| And now we're off and running. | |
| Now we're off to the races. | |
| Just lying to people, being delusional, just insane. | |
| Just actually stark raving insane. | |
| It's madness. | |
| It's ridiculous. | |
| So it looks like Trump will be attending the Kirk funeral here in Arizona. | |
| So the whole circus is coming to town, which is frustrating. | |
| You lucky dog. | |
| But also, I want to talk a little bit about the people who are, like, obviously, like, Ian Carroll types. | |
| Candace Owen types are alluding that Israel did it. | |
| And there is, it reminded me literally of the Kennedy assassination also. | |
| also in the fact that they like there's the conspiracies that he was like anti Vietnam war, which is like because he said a couple vague things that they bake into oblivion. | |
| And this seems to be what's gonna happen to Charlie Kirk, because they're taking like a few lines where he said something slightly like not like exactly on the the line, and they're like he's he's breaking from Israel, and I can't explain how pro there okay. | |
| There's a term called anti-Semitic um pro-Zionist, like an anti-Semitic Zionist, where and it is it does apply to a lot of like American Christians who are deeply like they they they they're anti-Semitic, | |
| but they basically promo they they they promote the the state of Israel, they believe in the the like state of Israel, um and support the state of Israel because it's part of their religious end game, and like ultimately all Jews have to die for that goal anyway. | |
| so it's kind of anti-semitic in my opinion in the long run anyway um but um charlie kirk also like was um like the school um or like the the the turning point program like uh their | |
| influencers were regularly sent to israel as part of like a program with the state of israel where the influencers basically did propaganda for the state and also the IDF. | |
| They literally just did one and they were doing it, they were taking photos on like IDF tanks. | |
| Um and it uh like the you know how like Benjamin Netanyahu's been doing doing kind of like a podcast circuit right now in America, like a lot of those people are turning point people, and um like Netanyahu and a few other state officials with Israel literally like immediately honored Kirk and they're gonna name a highway after him. | |
| Like it's just so funny to pr try to paint him as pro-Israel. | |
| And it's like he he does it as a way to also obviously wedge in like Palestinians don't exist, and I hate I think I want them to glass Gaza, but I just think this is just a very funny narrative that's building, like couldn't be a more like Netanyahu ass kisser, but yeah. | |
| Oh, and then what's really funny is all these people are like Laura Loomer is like throwing herself on the ground and mourning the fallen Charlie Kirk, and she has a long tweet up where she's just like Charlie Kirk is not pro-Trump. | |
| He's like pushing for the Epstein list, and all of this stuff, and uh he he hung out with David Smith, who called for Trump to be impeached and removed over the attack on Israel's nuclear fo uh facilities. | |
| Oh, death equals redemption. | |
| Oh, yeah, oh god. | |
| I've all I I've always said this. | |
| I mean, that's uh Qnon's greatest hero is Michael Jackson, who, if alive, would be the greatest enemy. | |
| The yeah, the most notorious pederist in the world. | |
| You make Epstein look like a Piker. | |
| Um one thing I noticed that got me was you know, I've I've seen this too about the you know, the the Jews targeted Charlie Kirk, and then I scroll down like two tweets and someone talking about how these Jewish artists did 9-11. | |
| I'm like, okay, is there anything the Jews haven't done? | |
| Are they the reason I was late for work yesterday? | |
| Oh, it's always them. | |
| It's always them. | |
| I mean, it's just and I just since it's 9-11 and people like to blame 9-11 on the Jews just for the record. | |
| And I'm using air quotes here. | |
| Fun fact about 9-11. | |
| The first official victim, first person dead, even before Flight 11 hit the North Tower at 8 46 a.m. was an Israeli man. | |
| He had dual citizenship in America and Israel. | |
| He had served in the IDF. | |
| His name was Daniel Lewin. | |
| So if the Jews did 9-11, then hey, guess what? | |
| You know, I mean, just the absurdity of this bullshit. | |
| They planned they planted him there to look innocent. | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| Well, yeah, it was their sacrificial land. | |
| Some people saying he was one of the hijackers, whatever, but whatever, man. | |
| I've I've I've seen people saying that like that Kirk was this was beholden to Israel and Israel sacrificed him to like make it look like they didn't do it what they did do it. | |
| So it it it never ends, it never ends, and there's no logic you can possibly use to ever make these people not believe what they want to believe, which is that the Jews are behind everything, and that's just the way their world works. | |
| Yeah, it's I always say uh every conspiracy theory eventually leads to Jews or aliens. | |
| And uh these days it leads more heavily towards Jews. | |
| Oh yeah. | |
| So uh so I mean this sucks. | |
| Uh QAnon's reaction has been that all liberals must be killed because they are responsible for this. | |
| Uh it's great. | |
| It's truly awesome about everything. | |
| And uh it we're in a real dark place here, is basically the best I can say about things. | |
| It's just uh it's super shitty, and uh we st I at the start of this podcast there had been some talk about a suspect in custody. | |
| I still see nothing about that now. | |
| Uh the biggest thing that I've seen is um the biggest thing that I've seen is that come on, Brady can bring oh that they said that there were quote unquote arrows carved into the bullets, and that they mistakenly thought those arrows meant trans. | |
| So they apologize, and people right now. | |
| I'm sorry, go ahead. | |
| Go ahead with the both. | |
| Sorry, I just had a question about them then. | |
| Yeah, well, the who knows? | |
| Who knows why they thought arrows equal to trans. | |
| Uh most people are questioning if it's iron front, because like that is like the three arrows, this there's like the standard uh logo for that. | |
| But we don't know. | |
| We have no idea, and um I've heard I've heard different message things about some there was something written on his rifle, and then some people were saying it was uh it was an anti-fascist statement, other people are saying they're not sure what it means, what was written on his rifle. | |
| Well, and I don't know if you don't heard anything about that. | |
| These people are all false flaggers, so shouldn't your first assumption beyond those symbols aren't really what the person believed, you know? | |
| Well, yeah, who knows? | |
| Who knows? | |
| Anyhow, yeah. | |
| I'm sorry, sorry, I didn't mean to cut you up, but and my question about the bullets is why would you were the bul number one I want to know if the bullets were fired. | |
| Yeah, and because if they were fired, then chances are they would be unreadable. | |
| Otherwise why would they leave them? | |
| No, the these these were in the these were found inside the rifle when it was abandoned. | |
| And everyone's arguing about why why did he why did he abandon the rifle where he abandoned it, why didn't he keep it? | |
| Why didn't he leave it? | |
| They the FBI says he abandoned the rifle in the woods after he escaped, and people are wondering why he didn't just leave the rifle at the scene, why did he not keep it the whole way? | |
| There's and everyone's gonna ask a million questions. | |
| I mean until they catch until they catch the until they catch this guy, we're not gonna know shit about shit. | |
| And given that we have the rock solid cash patel and Dan Boncino handling this investigation, who knows if we're gonna catch him or not? | |
| So and even if we do catch him, it's not necessarily gonna answer anything because people still have questions about why James Earl Ray ditched the gun that he shot MLK with in the bushes outside the hotel. | |
| And he is still alive to answer those questions, and people still uh I think he's dead now, but yeah. | |
| Okay, well, yeah, well, he he lived a long time to answer those questions. | |
| He was in jail for a long time. | |
| And the thing I want people to remember really quickly is when a tragic event like 9-11 or like a shooting or assassination, when stuff like that happens, you have to understand that it's evolving. | |
| That and and I just listened to the the F uh the ATC radio today on the scanner app from 9-11. | |
| There's confusion. | |
| There's always confusion. | |
| So the early reports are not gonna be the right ones. | |
| And sometimes you have to wait a while To get all of the information. | |
| Keep that in mind. | |
| And also keep in mind that someone's doing an assassination when someone's doing a mass shooting. | |
| We may not be able to place ourselves in our in that mindset. | |
| And thank God for that. | |
| You have to keep in mind that they themselves are in a different mindset. | |
| They're in an altered state. | |
| And I don't mean they're high or they're on drugs. | |
| Thanks. | |
| They are in a fight or flight mode. | |
| There's shit going on with adrenaline, chemicals coursing through their body. | |
| All this weird shit is happening in their brain and in their body. | |
| They may not be thinking correctly. | |
| They may do something really stupid, like stand there, put place the gun down and then run away or something. | |
| You don't know. | |
| So it just we can't jump to conclusions and we can't pick apart every detail. | |
| We're not detectives. | |
| And now neither is the FBI. | |
| So there you go. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay, I'm gonna call it here because we've almost gone 90 minutes, and we I had other things to talk about, but uh forget all that. | |
| This was all Charlie Kirk all. | |
| No, not you! | |
| It wasn't you! | |
| Why are you apologizing? | |
| You should apologize for attacking me during the one happy thing segment. | |
| Well, I'm I am very sorry about that. | |
| I'm I'm uh surely, surely. | |
| You're not very sorry. | |
| Surely sorry. | |
| I know. | |
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