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| you The Adventures in Hellworld podcast talks in-depth about QAnon. | |
| While it's meant to be comedic informative, sometimes we have to get into things like child abuse and violence against people. | |
| Listener discretion advised. | |
| Hello, everybody. | |
| I am Mike Rains, a.k.a. | |
| Poker and Politics, and welcome to another episode of Adventures in Hellweek. | |
| This week I am joined, as always, by Chaley, a.k.a. | |
| Haley, who is also the Defense Secretary, Hank Smith, who is drunk. | |
| How are you doing, drunkie? | |
| I'm doing good. | |
| I mean, actually, I'm not doing good. | |
| I think I went temporarily insane. | |
| I don't want to talk about it for too long, but I think I went temporarily insane when I saw the White House sharing a Studio Ghibli-fied version of them deporting a Hispanic woman. | |
| I felt my soul leave my body, and that was only a couple hours ago, so I don't think I've fully recovered. | |
| But that's how I'm doing. | |
| Yeah, that fucking... | |
| I mean... | |
| You would think, if you were a propaganda network, that if you were doing this bullshit, that you would do it where you're deporting, like, MI-13 gangbangers. | |
| Nope. You're just like, look at this heavy-set woman who's crying! | |
| Fuck her! | |
| Kick her out of the country! | |
| Murka! It's like, the cruelty is the point with these people. | |
| The cruelty is the point. | |
| I am also joined by Eric the Deep State Operative, who is traveling and not driving today. | |
| That's right, and you can't see it, but I have several dozen Venezuelan prisoners standing behind me in their boxer shorts. | |
| Yes! God. | |
| Who literally have pro-autism awareness tattoos, and we just grabbed them and sent them to El Salvador, because fuck you. | |
| Right, they told us, get anyone with tattoos. | |
| I'm like, what kind of tattoos? | |
| Tattoos. Tattoos, don't care. | |
| And we're also joined by Steph. | |
| Hello. Hello. | |
| Hello. Yes, that's a better opening than all of us just did. | |
| No, no. | |
| I love it. | |
| I just love how we're all so beaten down at this point. | |
| I mean, every fucking day is just a reminder that this is going to be a long four years. | |
| Just a brutal four years. | |
| If we're lucky. | |
| If we're fucking lucky, it'll be four years. | |
| I mean... | |
| It was around November 30th when I started remembering what it was like to wake up every morning and think, oh God, what did I do this time? | |
| Yep. And that was before they started blackbagging people. | |
| Yes! That is the one thing that always... | |
| In broad daylight. | |
| That's the thing that always gets me about people is these assholes who worked so hard to demoralize liberals and leftists and not vote in the election. | |
| There's this mentality amongst people that it can't get any worse. | |
| Spoiler alert, it can always get worse. | |
| It can always be worse than what it currently is. | |
| I'm living proof that it can always get worse. | |
| It could get better, but... | |
| I do this thing where I watch Children of Men once a year, which is one of my favorite movies, and it gets darker every time you watch it, to be honest. | |
| Honestly, this year is going to be wild because of the Kristi Noem cage photo, because I think there is a lot of people in cages, imagery, people getting black bagged kind of imagery throughout. | |
| I think there is some critique of art and its place in the collapse. | |
| I'm sorry to be so dark in the opening. | |
| I should probably have looked at something nicer before we got onto this. | |
| Somebody put pictures of puppies in the chat. | |
| We gotta bring this up. | |
| Fuck all this shit. | |
| I was watching diving videos. | |
| That made me happy. | |
| Baseball's starting, right? | |
| Yep. God, you could not pay me to be interested in baseball. | |
| I know the Boston Red Sox have allegedly done a little to make themselves better, and I also know that the Yankees have suffered some devastating setbacks, which should make me happy, but it's like, in 2004, the Red Sox finally broke the curse and won the World Series, and then it was just sort of like, man, okay, we've done our thing. | |
| It's over now. | |
| This unbelievably boring, unbelievably slow-paced, unbelievably uninteresting sport. | |
| Wake me up when it's the World Series and maybe I'll care, because then there's some actual stakes. | |
| Because right now, there's no stakes. | |
| For a very long time, I didn't realize how big a deal sports are in Chicago. | |
| I mean, I did know it, but I thought that was normal. | |
| I thought every... | |
| Every city in the country was as obsessed with sports as Chicago is, and then I found out that's not the case. | |
| You just reminded me of this because you're talking about baseball. | |
| For those of you who don't know, there's two baseball teams in Chicago, the Cubs and some other guys. | |
| Literally the other guys. | |
| They are so bad. | |
| It's a thing in Chicago where you'll meet somebody, and if they're into baseball, they'll ask you, one of the first questions they'll ask you, Cubs or Sox? | |
| And I'll be like, I don't watch baseball. | |
| I'm like, oh, okay. | |
| Cubs or Sox? | |
| I'm like, I mean, I don't really have a preference. | |
| Oh, okay, I get that. | |
| I get that. | |
| Cubs or Sox? | |
| Like, it does not click in their heads that you cannot be on one end of this divide or the other. | |
| It's... What I enjoy about that is that Obama was actually very strongly on Team Sox. | |
| It was very funny. | |
| He lived on the South Side, so I can give him a pass for that. | |
| Yeah, but it just made me laugh because even when he was president, he was just like, look, just because I'm president doesn't mean I have to support the Cubs. | |
| So fuck you. | |
| It was just great. | |
| I just loved that he took his normie sports views into the White House. | |
| I know. | |
| I remember telling my wife that. | |
| I'm like, yeah, he's a White Sox fan. | |
| She's like, what? | |
| I'm like, well, he's from Hyde Park. | |
| What do you expect? | |
| Yeah. That's funny that they're all beef. | |
| That's the thing. | |
| The cities that have two teams, they have beef. | |
| Yankees and Mets have beef. | |
| Dodgers and Angels don't have beef because there's no such thing as an actual Angels fan and they're not even from LA. | |
| They're from Anaheim. | |
| Like, I mean, this is like, to just explain how completely toothless Angels fans are, the god of baseball, Shohei Otani, was an Angel for a long time, and they never won a fucking thing with him because the Angels are just dog shit. | |
| I saw this the way people addressed it. | |
| They were saying, it's like seeing your ex. | |
| Having lost 30 pounds, now dating someone much nicer than you, and you're just like, ah, they deserve it. | |
| There's no angel's face. | |
| It's like, fuck Shohei betraying us. | |
| It's like, no, we know we suck. | |
| We didn't deserve him. | |
| And now he's in a better place. | |
| So, yeah. | |
| New York and Chicago have some smoke for the other team. | |
| LA does not. | |
| And the other thing that's really awesome and hilarious about what Eric was saying was They posted Vegas has the over-under for the total wins a team will have in a season. | |
| The White Sox total, mind you, there are 162 games in a season. | |
| The White Sox win total is over-under 53.5. | |
| So Vegas thinks they're going to lose 110 games this year. | |
| That's how bad the White Sox are. | |
| So if someone asks you, Cubs or Sox, and you say Sox, they're like, ooh, man, I'll buy you a beer. | |
| I'm sorry, bro. | |
| I'm sorry. | |
| I didn't know it was that bad. | |
| I didn't know you'd made such a terrible decision in your life. | |
| I do remember several years ago when the Sox won the World Series, and they decided to rub it in everybody's faces, because all over the North Side, you could see these billboards with a player holding up his hands and going, I still got nine other ring fingers. | |
| Oh, oh, man. | |
| Man, got a little too full of themselves in that moment. | |
| I know this guy who's like diehard Cubs, like bleeds Cubby Blue, and he was, and I'd mess with him. | |
| I'd be like, hey, you know, I just got an autographed baseball from this guy named Arrieta. | |
| Would you like that? | |
| And he'd be like, I'll kill you. | |
| Yeah. So, everything's going great. | |
| Everything's going great in America. | |
| We are just... | |
| Everything's fine. | |
| Nothing's broken. | |
| Please, nothing to see here. | |
| Move on. | |
| Baseball's great. | |
| Go Diamondbacks! | |
| In other good things in the world, ContraPoints has a new video about conspiracy theories that was an incredible deep dive, and you all need to watch it. | |
| It's aesthetically beautiful, too. | |
| Yes. All of her videos are beautiful, so that's never going to be a problem for that lady. | |
| She said she spent a year studying conspiracy theories, and she was there. | |
| She got so much right that most people don't get right, which blows my mind. | |
| So it was just like, fuck. | |
| Like, this is... | |
| She summarized the Nasara-Jasara-QAnon XRP scam in, like, one sentence, and it's like, damn, I just wrote, like, 3,000 words on that. | |
| Right! Yeah, exactly. | |
| What's XRP? | |
| XRP is your crypto... | |
| It's a crypto coin that's kind of legitimate, but a lot of scammers are getting into it now and making it more scammy. | |
| And, like, kind of, like, offshoot QAnon conspiracy people from kind of, like, the old Michael Protzman scene, and I think, like, the Romana lady pushes it, too, but I don't follow her, so I'm not 100% on that. | |
| And then... | |
| What's his fucking name? | |
| The fake JFK Jr. | |
| Vincent Fusca. | |
| No, the other one. | |
| Wano Saban. | |
| I love that we have too many fucking fake JFK Juniors. | |
| Fucking love it. | |
| They have been kind of writing XRP into QAnon and Nassara Jassara Mythos, which was definitely that event that I went to was kind of like the theme. | |
| It was an XRP event, but they are like, okay, I'm just going to say it here now that I think we're safe enough out that I can mention this. | |
| I was wearing a, I wore a Bitcoin like shirt to it. | |
| I was just like, it's like a crypto event. | |
| I'm just going to go in and kind of blend in. | |
| It's like, you know, whatever. | |
| Okay. They think. | |
| Bitcoin is like Luciferian crypto run by the Jews, and they say that XRP is like the good white hat crypto. | |
| So they're doing all that. | |
| These scammers that are writing a lot of this XRP mythos seem to be scamming their followers, shocking, even further, and kind of directing them towards phishing sites that I'm sure they have nothing to do with. | |
| My favorite part about you wearing the trolling shirt is that you weren't aware you were wearing a trolling shirt. | |
| It was like you went to a Nirvana concert in a Pearl Jam t-shirt and you're like, why is everyone giving me dirty looks? | |
| It was like, I was like, man, I thought like, you know, because they asked you like, who here invests in crypto? | |
| And like two guys raised their hand, or in Bitcoin, and like two guys raised their hand. | |
| And they're like, who invests in XRP? | |
| The whole room. | |
| So yeah, that's XRP. | |
| Read my article, listeners, on lefthoserightwatch.org. | |
| I did read it. | |
| It was a good read. | |
| Thank you! | |
| That's us. | |
| We support each other. | |
| That's right. | |
| Yes. Oh, man. | |
| So, anyhow, I don't know. | |
| We're like fucking 30 minutes into this pod. | |
| Haven't even gotten to our subject yet. | |
| Okay, whatever. | |
| I wanted to be a little dramatic. | |
| But, uh, yeah. | |
| Basically, our plan for today before, I don't know, we started just blackbagging a Tufts University student for no reason. | |
| Letting reporters in on attack plans. | |
| Yeah, we're just conducting war plans in Signal where we're inviting random people into the chat so they can just read about how we're going to bomb the Huthas. | |
| And it's just... | |
| It's really insane. | |
| As I said at the start of this thing, it's going to be a long four years. | |
| We don't have a president. | |
| We literally decided to elect an empty chair that is just dumb and angry and says bad things. | |
| He's like Zaphon Beeblebrox. | |
| Right! It's Zaphon Beeblebrox, only instead of having Flair and Grace and Panache, he's just this crotchety old man who gets mad at reporters who push back on the dumb things he says. | |
| And it's just like, fuck! | |
| And the crazy part is that's what the American people want. | |
| Or at least a big enough portion of them. | |
| I mean, I will always... | |
| My mentality, both for my own sanity and also because I believe it is very politically advantageous to say this, is that this is the fucking media's fault. | |
| They're the ones who fucking prop this guy up. | |
| They're the ones who just would not let go of their binky. | |
| They're the pricks that... | |
| At one of the early Trump press conferences, we're texting each other, oh, bro, we're so back! | |
| And they're like, oh, we're so happy we got our daddy back! | |
| Orange Daddy's gonna give us the fun press conferences again! | |
| And then he immediately kicked the Associated Press out of the White House pool room, and then they're like, and it's like, yeah, fucking Leopard's gonna eat your face too, morons! | |
| Yeah. So, I mean, y'all wanted it. | |
| Y'all ran Biden out of the race for being senile and then Donald Trump literally stood on stage for 30 minutes just swaying in the breeze. | |
| And none of you said boo. | |
| None of you said a fucking thing. | |
| One asshole from ABC News was just like, he did a great job. | |
| Anyone who says otherwise can go fuck themselves. | |
| I'm going to find the name of that reporter and never stop bringing him up. | |
| And I want to point out that this shit is continuing to tear families apart and just create hateful, horrible minds. | |
| Yeah. It's the whole thing. | |
| They're treating Joe Biden and then Kamala Harris like they would any other politician, but Trump, they treat him like he's P.T. Barnum up on stage making yet another grand pronouncement. | |
| Can you imagine any other politician in your lifetime declaring, I will reduce your energy bills by half, and the press just lets that go? | |
| Just the most ridiculously absurd comment ever. | |
| Trump could have just got in front of a crowd and said, yo, man, I'm going to make your dicks two inches longer. | |
| Ladies, doesn't that sound great? | |
| Ha ha ha! | |
| And the press would have just been like, Trump connects with audience with impassioned plea about romance. | |
| There's just nothing. | |
| There's nothing the guy can say where the press will be like, oh, that rascally skimp. | |
| Oh, that glorious huckster. | |
| Ha ha! | |
| What a cad! | |
| I saw that USA Today article that was like, who hasn't made a mistake when inviting people to signal chat? | |
| Who hasn't brought the wrong person into a chat room when discussing ultra-classified materials? | |
| Hey! We're all human! | |
| Waka waka! | |
| It literally shouldn't even be in a signal chat because they are government officials and they had it set to delete. | |
| And that, it's supposed to go in the record. | |
| Even if it doesn't become public information, it still has to become record. | |
| So, like... | |
| I've seen some people say that was why they handed out signals, so that they could keep out of the Presidential Records Act. | |
| And it's like, they're just like, alright, we killed some civilians! | |
| Boom emoji! | |
| American flag emoji! | |
| Fire emoji! | |
| I feel like there's a lot of attention on, like... | |
| The funniness and the scandal around having this guy in the signal chat, but it's like, there is so much else wrong with what was going on here. | |
| Yeah, they're like bro-hugging each other over bombing some guy and his girlfriend. | |
| Yeah, and J.D. Vance is like, make sure we don't hit any Saudi plants or anything. | |
| It's just, there's so much that can be analyzed from this fucking thing. | |
| And beyond just like, oopsie. | |
| I did like the bit when Hegseth said something or other and J.D. Vance responds, what? | |
| Like, dude, sorry, I just woke up. | |
| Who are we bombing? | |
| I'm not going to scroll up. | |
| Just explain it to me. | |
| TLDR, just tell me who's getting bombed. | |
| Okay, now we actually have talked for about 20 minutes without talking about our episode. | |
| So, time for the hard pivot to what we're going to talk about today, which is... | |
| We need a record scratch sound. | |
| Yeah, the record scratch. | |
| Boom. I'll have to have Frosty make a new bump, where it's just like, and now time to get to the topic! | |
| The hard pivot? | |
| Yeah, the hard pivot. | |
| We could just have John Cleese say an offer for something completely different. | |
| Yeah, something, anything. | |
| But yeah, today we're going to be talking about Sovereign Citizens, because they're hilarious. | |
| They're hilarious. | |
| Yeah, they're hilarious until you start digging into them like I did, and then they get less hilarious. | |
| Oh yeah, it's not great. | |
| It's not great. | |
| As fun as it is watching those YouTube videos of soft-sits getting crushed by lawyers who know their word games and, like, just... | |
| Don't take their shit. | |
| It's not great. | |
| It's another wormhole that people get sucked down that lead them to just this delusional worldview where they are exempt from the laws of their country. | |
| Because we're Americans, we're going to be talking about Americans mostly. | |
| And Snobstead is still mostly an American phenomenon anyway. | |
| Yeah. I thought there was a pretty good branch in Europe. | |
| Not like branch, like it's an organization, but just like the culture has seeped over there pretty good. | |
| And yeah, we were talking earlier, but COVID, I think, kind of exacerbated a lot of that. | |
| Because it is basically guys and ladies and non-binary pals who think that if they say a magic set of words, rules do not apply to them. | |
| That is so funny. | |
| Yeah, I saw someone describe it literally as a magic spell. | |
| You have to say the right words in the right combination in order to poof, make your problems go away. | |
| Yeah, that's really it. | |
| I mean, it's really this idea that there is a secret way to break yourself from the requirements of paying your taxes and fulfilling all the other laws of the United States of America. | |
| And that somehow, someway, we have never closed this loophole and allowed people to do this. | |
| As long as they figure it out. | |
| And other people can teach you how to do this for the low, low price of $2,000. | |
| Maybe we should get in a bit into the history. | |
| Not the history of the movement, but what they claim is the secret history of America that created this whole movement. | |
| I just want to say that with Sovereign Citizens, it's not like a set ideology. | |
| All sovereign citizens are different from one another, essentially. | |
| Not all sovereign citizens believe the same thing. | |
| When you meet two sovereign citizens, they have very weird beliefs about absolutely everything that just exists in society. | |
| But yeah, they basically just don't... | |
| They think the government's illegitimate, but not in a cool way. | |
| In an annoying way where they don't think they have to... | |
| Follow traffic laws or pay taxes and, like, money is not as you think and all the, it's just, you know, sheriffs think they get more power than they deserve. | |
| There's, like, all different branches of this. | |
| But, yeah, go ahead, Eric. | |
| Right. Well, I, sorry, I lost my train of thought. | |
| I'm sorry! | |
| But, I mean, I think, Mike, I think you know a bit more about the whole Ulysses S. Grant and all that stuff. | |
| Well, Grant is about radical reconstruction and the fact that they passed all these amendments in the Johnson and the Grant administrations after the Civil War. | |
| And the 14th Amendment is the thing that sovereign citizens try to hang their hats on is that Basically, the 14th Amendment was this, is this, yo, Confederacy, you can't screw with black people and their rights. | |
| And that is the, that's where a lot of this comes from, is that the 14th Amendment codified like birthright citizenship, that if you're born in this country, you are a citizen. | |
| This leads to like the Moorish sovereign citizens who think that black people have like special bonus rights that they got through the 14th Amendment. | |
| And a lot of word game playing that you can have here. | |
| And then on top of that is the fact that my brain just melted because I saw a citizenship clause and thought it meant commerce clause because the commerce clause is their excuse for not. | |
| Having driver's licenses. | |
| But that's in the actual straight-up body of the Constitution. | |
| It's not an amendment. | |
| But the 14th Amendment is basically where do we get citizenship from and how is it derived as an American? | |
| And one branch of sovereign citizens calls themselves 14th Amendment citizens, which is I got my rights from this amendment and that's why I can do all the things I want to do. | |
| And as the websites I went to right before this podcast say, no, you do still have to get a driver's license because driving is a privilege and not a right. | |
| You do have the right to quote-unquote travel, but that is by foot or maybe bicycle or some other thing that is not a, like, thousand-pound... | |
| pile of metal that you can throw at someone at 100 miles an hour if you felt like you wanted to do that. | |
| Something that occurred to me while we were having this discussion is that driver's licenses are given to you by the state, not the federal government. | |
| So if anything, a driver's license will fall under the 10th Amendment. | |
| It's funny, like, their thought process around identification and also your birth certificate because... | |
| Oh, yeah, the whole capital letters thing. | |
| Yeah, your birth certificate is illegitimate, folks, just so you know. | |
| So you don't have rules apply to you. | |
| So there was this one big part with a lot of sovereign citizens called the District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871, which, according to sovereign citizens, created a corporation and then turned the United States into a corporation. | |
| Some say... | |
| That were actually owned by the United Kingdom, blah, blah, blah. | |
| The British Crown is usually the ending of that. | |
| Yeah. So, it gets in all this stuff, but one thing they say is that as a corporation, you have the option to opt out and to decide not to be part of the United States Corporation, and therefore the laws of the United States Corporation do not apply to you. | |
| It's like clicking yes to the terms of service when you install something on your computer. | |
| Yeah, when you're born, what you're issued as a baby is just like, it's proof that you're under the power of the government entity that is America. | |
| Yeah, they give them this whole weird thing that because your name is written in all capital letters on your birth certificate, that's not really your name. | |
| Some of them really go into the corporate thing and then they say that when the gold standard was ended, the citizens or the employees of the America Corporation became the financial backing for the company so that you and me are the actual assets. | |
| The birth certificate is like a fake identity that was created using a name like yours, but in all capital letters. | |
| And it has like a stock ticker kind of thing where you can supposedly go up to the U.S. Treasury and demand the money that's in your name and all this corporate stuff. | |
| This was kind of in the Nasara Jasara slash XRP shit was that they were kind of, there was like some SovSit kind of shit at the conference where they were kind of talking about how like The government used birth certificates to create these trusts that were millions and that, like, it's tied to you and, like, it's just, like, they have the answers how to access it. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Because, again, you need to know the special code or magic spell in order to get that money. | |
| You have to say the exact right words in the exact same sequence. | |
| So if you try to do it and it failed, that's because you didn't say the right words. | |
| It's your fault. | |
| that you're not getting the money that's owed to you. | |
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| Yeah. I mean, that's something you see a lot from these, from subset influencers where some guy would be like, okay, well, I didn't pay my income tax for 10 years because you said I don't have to. | |
| And now the IRS. | |
| It has me in front of a judge, and the judge is telling me that he's going to put a lien on me, and the influence will be like, well, I guess you didn't provide the right paperwork, because if you had done it correctly, then you wouldn't owe any taxes. | |
| So don't blame me on your mistake. | |
| Yeah. The, like, shit with, like, driver's licenses, too. | |
| Listeners might know SoftSits from being the people who start shouting that they were Yeah. | |
| owns, you know, like people like watching like soft sits just make asses out of themselves. | |
| Yeah. Um, and like the, the thing that I often see on those is just like the, I was traveling and then they get into a fight with a cop. | |
| Um, and I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I love the idea of that. | |
| I was traveling, not driving. | |
| Smash cut to cop getting hit with a right hook. | |
| Other cop grabbing the baton and clubbing the guy. | |
| I don't even fully understand the whole right to travel thing. | |
| They say that driving is a commercial activity and since they're not operating a business, they're simply traveling. | |
| What does that mean? | |
| So basically what they do is they expand out from the idea of the First Amendment giving right of assembly to meaning that if I have a right to assembly, I have a right to travel places so that, say, I could assemble somewhere. | |
| And I'm sure someone will disagree with my interpretation. | |
| But this, again, this is sovereign citizen nonsense. | |
| I could have heard this from one person. | |
| It would have been valid from that sovereign citizen. | |
| But the gist of it is, is that the First Amendment gives you all of these various rights to petition the government for grievances, to assemble, to do this and that. | |
| So I am allowed to travel because I have this freedom bestowed to me by the Constitution. | |
| And that... | |
| Driving is if you are working for a business or if you're a taxi or if you're an Uber or a Lyft or door dashing or whatever. | |
| And that is regulated by the Commerce Clause of the Constitution. | |
| And that would require me to get a license because now I'm conducting business and business is regulated by the Constitution. | |
| It's basically an excuse to not have to pay for your vehicle tags and your driver's license. | |
| Yeah, sobsits, like, will have their own IDs and their own licenses, which is sometimes interesting to delve down just to see what the fuck people are making for their... | |
| Some of them will give themselves, like, phony government offices. | |
| Like, some guy will say, like, I'm the, you know, I'm not an American citizen, I'm the chief diplomat of the nation of Bill. | |
| Oh my god, yes, I love that. | |
| And their names will be written, like, Like, with random punctuation thrown in. | |
| Yeah, and it's, like, all lowercase because of the all-cap thing with the punctuation. | |
| Like, this is their real form of ID or something. | |
| Yeah, but we'll have, like, a random colon thrown in or something. | |
| There's actually a lot of soft-sit, like, activity in Arizona. | |
| Surprisingly. Knock me over with a feather. | |
| And I'm actually near a church. | |
| It used to be kind of more Christian identity. | |
| They used to talk about mud people in terms of a black person. | |
| In terms of horrifying racism? | |
| Yeah, it's a very racist church. | |
| And it kind of morphed more into a sovereign citizen church. | |
| And a lot of the so-called paper terrorism, I think, comes from that place. | |
| Help people get fake licenses and IDs, which I think is hilarious of a church to do. | |
| So, yeah. | |
| So I'm looking, I did a Google search for sovereign citizens traveling and one of the top images is a white SUV that has all this scribbled on the back window and back of it. | |
| It says, this auto private property subject to constitutional law, UCC sect 1-308 verifies people's rights. | |
| Peace officers oath equals promise to Jesus. | |
| I can't read the end of it. | |
| And then it says, I am a U.S. | |
| national. I travel by right, not privilege. | |
| DMV code. | |
| And then where the plate says, it's privately owned property of people. | |
| Yeah. Yeah, they use a lot of pseudo-legal language, and that's one way that a lot of these influencers bring them in, because most people, like, say, myself, don't really know what real... | |
| We go mumbo-jumbo, looks like. | |
| So something like this sounds like it could be real, you know? | |
| Right. I mean, as long as you can baffle them with bullshit, you can get anyone to buy into something. | |
| I mean, it's really awesome that way. | |
| Here we go. | |
| I found something. | |
| This was like, because you were talking about the 14th Amendment, this is something else I had read. | |
| It was an idea that came up in the 1970s from one of the... | |
| One of the first guys who came up with the whole sovereign citizen thing, his name was William Potter Gale, which wasn't Potter the name of the bad guy in A Wonderful Life? | |
| Yeah. But anyway, I'm spinning my wheels here. | |
| He said that the 14th Amendment took all Americans and created a new category called federal citizens and that these people And that, again, this is something you had to opt into. | |
| And most people, like when you click yes on the terms of service, they don't actually know what they're doing when they click on it. | |
| So they unknowingly turn themselves into these federal citizens. | |
| And so that's where you see stuff like they claim, you know, I'm not a United States citizen. | |
| I'm a state citizen or an organic citizen or a national or something like that. | |
| Right. I think what you said before about how it kind of plays into people's ignorance on a lot of this shit, because I kind of personally saw a lot of what was happening in Arizona when Trump lost that one time, | |
| that glorious time, and how there was all these bogus lawsuits filed, and there was kind of this wave of frivolous Right. | |
| Yeah. Yeah, it's the same thing like how you'll read it in the newspaper that a guy slipped and fell while breaking into somebody's house and is now suing for $10 million. | |
| And it's like, our court system is crazy. | |
| But what they don't realize is that, one, just because he filed the suit doesn't mean he's going to win. | |
| And two, even if somehow he does win, it doesn't mean he's going to get $10 million. | |
| Yeah, you can file any lawsuit you want. | |
| It doesn't mean anything. | |
| It's like those three brothers who keep filing the lawsuits to invalidate every election in 2020 and how the case goes into the Supreme Court docket every so often. | |
| People are like, oh shit! | |
| It's gonna happen! | |
| It's happening. | |
| Right, it's happening. | |
| It just keeps happening over and over again. | |
| And, yeah. | |
| And it's just this very silly bullshit over and over again. | |
| I wonder, do those guys, do they keep filing claims in different jurisdictions or anything? | |
| Because otherwise, if they keep doing it in the same place, they could probably get labeled vexatious litigants. | |
| Yeah, I truly don't know how they pull it off, but I just know that that's the... | |
| I found out about that from that woman. | |
| Orly, I think her name was, who kept suing Obama every 10 seconds? | |
| Orly Tates? | |
| Yeah, Orly Tates, yeah. | |
| The OG birther? | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| Yeah, because every time she filed a suit against Obama, it was in a different jurisdiction, so they weren't able to hit her with anything to stop her from doing it because they didn't have the paper trail showing her doing it in the same place over and over. | |
| Yeah. That's kind of the, like, you know, the bogus paperwork. | |
| That's the whole, like, paper terrorism shit. | |
| Yeah. Yeah, that's the part where it's bad, in my opinion, because that's wasting taxpayer money. | |
| Yeah, and in some ways they're, like, it's a form of serial harassment. | |
| Yeah. I was reading about that, like, one tactic they'll do a lot is they'll put a lien on somebody because, kind of like lawsuits, You can file a lien on anybody you want. | |
| And the problem is, even if it's completely and absolutely bogus, the person who had the fake lien put on them still has to spend time and money getting that removed. | |
| So even if the lien goes nowhere, it still causes problems for the person that the sovereign citizen is trying to cause problems for. | |
| Yeah, and that's where you have to have the... | |
| You hope to be in a city or a state that has a slap. | |
| And I think I know some places I think like in Arizona They have specifically | |
| anti-sov-cit laws because they get hit with so much of this that they've been able to build up like, okay, this is what they're going to do, so this is how we can counter it. | |
| Whereas other places, these sov-cits are wandering in and these guys are like, what the hell are these guys talking about? | |
| And it clogs up the court system for years. | |
| Yeah. Yeah, there's like, I think, laws around filing fraudulent liens. | |
| Yeah. Yeah, she'll like that. | |
| Yeah, the problem is most places don't have anything about fraudulent liens because people don't usually try that kind of thing. | |
| Yeah, it's one of those things where it's a lack of imagination from the lawmaker's side of things where it's like, oh, they wouldn't do that. | |
| Well, guess what? | |
| They're gonna. | |
| Eventually they're gonna. | |
| Stephanie, you're quiet this episode. | |
| Do you have any experiences with SobSit? | |
| Culture or anything? | |
| Not really, no. | |
| I just follow Dr. Sartechi and I read a lot of her stuff. | |
| Yeah, I follow her on Twitter, too. | |
| Explain her. | |
| What is that? | |
| She covers Ditalo, primarily. | |
| Oh, okay. | |
| Yeah, enough that Ditalo, or however you pronounce her name, that she's actually written decrees saying that this woman is a fraud. | |
| She's like, uh, she's a professor somewhere, I can't remember where, but she's, uh, but she does a lot of SovSid stuff, and she really got into the whole Romana Didolo thing. | |
| Like, enough that the, that her whole cult just absolutely hates the woman. | |
| Yeah, and that's one of the things that, uh, the Sov, uh, the Queen of Canada, she encourages a lot of the Sovereign Citizen stuff in the sense that She wants her audience to believe that she is the actual ruler of Canada and basically the world and as a result you don't actually have to pay your gas and utility bills to whatever province of Canada you're a part of because they don't hold sway over you. | |
| I do. | |
| So a lot of people end up getting their gas turned off or their electricity turned off or kicked out. | |
| People are having their lives completely ruined because some cunt She wants to be a cult leader and all of these people should cease breathing. | |
| All of these fraudsters, all of these hoaxers, all of these people should cease breathing immediately. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Wow. Okay. | |
| How do you really feel, Steph? | |
| Tell us. | |
| I'm sick of watching people's lives be ripped apart. | |
| I'm sick of watching families be ripped apart and now mine is. | |
| So, fuck all of these people. | |
| Stop breathing. | |
| Don't breathe. | |
| Just die. | |
| Antics. you I need your help, Her Royal Majesty, because she insists on being referred to as Her Royal Majesty. | |
| And they'll be like, you know, I... | |
| I sent your decrees to the gas company and they're still cutting my gas off and I have a sick mother and everything and she will not respond at all. | |
| She could not give less of a damn about your problems that she caused. | |
| Yep. If you're dumb enough to follow me, then you get what you deserve. | |
| And it's so abusive. | |
| It's so sick that this is the way these people treat their followers. | |
| And yet, they still get more followers because people get wrapped up in this magical thinking and you are struggling to pay your rent. | |
| You're in between jobs. | |
| You're just in a moment of... | |
| You're in a low point in your life. | |
| And then... | |
| Some monster or another reaches out to you and offers you this quick fix, this easy way to get out of the problem you're in. | |
| And you take it, and then you find out, oh wait, they were lying to me. | |
| Yeah, that's when this stuff starts becoming funny, when you start seeing these stories of these people who are getting their lives ruined by this bullshit. | |
| Yeah, and I feel like what I saw at that QAnon conference that I was at, like, Because sovereign citizen, like, ideology kind of, like, mixes in this, like, alternative understanding of finances and banking and taxes. | |
| And so, like, that's another kind of just thing that gets mixed into this, like, QAnon, Nasara, Jasara. | |
| It's like so much fucking slop just, like, getting thrown at people. | |
| Yeah, Sovereign Citizen is one of those movements that you can kind of slide into any other conspiracy theory. | |
| Yeah, that's the great thing about all these conspiracy theories is that they all just kind of start to form one big narrative. | |
| They all congeal into one big mass. | |
| But yeah, so it's like I think there's kind of these scammers all over because that was kind of what I saw. | |
| It was like the people that were Organizing this XRP scam, we're weaving in just SovSit rhetoric that's from more the financial realm of SovSit ideology. | |
| Yeah. Oh, and this... | |
| One bit of lore that would be kind of impossible for us to not talk about is gold-fringed flags. | |
| Ah, yes. | |
| I was wondering if that was going to come up. | |
| I mean, you have to bring it up because it's one of their most famous things to claim about flags. | |
| And I actually, like, my Google search took me to just basically a website that sells flags. | |
| And that website basically said... | |
| No, there's nothing to this. | |
| Those people are wacky. | |
| Now buy our flags, asshole. | |
| We just want to sell a flag. | |
| And I just thought that made me laugh so much that they were just this. | |
| You'll see some QAnon promoter being like, look, during this speech you can see gold fringes on the flags behind them. | |
| Yeah. I remember seeing early in our glorious new Trump regime, I remember seeing some video of Trump in front of flags without gold fringe, and people were like, yes, it's happening! | |
| Oh, we got him! | |
| The fringe is off! | |
| So, for those of you who don't know, and God bless you, I don't know how you could be listening to this podcast and not know this shit, but oh, my sweet summer child. | |
| So, basically the mentality is that A regular American flag without gold fringe is a flag. | |
| It's a flag of our beloved nation. | |
| But a flag with gold fringe on it is supposed to indicate either martial law or maritime law, each of which is basically a decree that America is in a state of war or crisis. | |
| Or admiralty law, as they like to put it. | |
| Yeah, maritime law, admiralty law. | |
| Yes, exactly. | |
| Just words. | |
| Just use lots of words. | |
| Just keep fucking throwing words out there and make it sound cool. | |
| And that is the goal here, is to just make you think that something's going on. | |
| I remember the last time I got jury duty, I went to the courtroom and there was a gold fringe on the flag and I just couldn't help but laugh. | |
| So I was like, no justice in this house of lies because this isn't an American courtroom as far as I can tell. | |
| And this is part of the, ContraPoint said it in the video, the gamification of reality where You see the secret messages. | |
| You see the hidden symbolism and the dumb normies don't get it. | |
| Like the dumb normies that were in that jury pool, they had no idea that they were part of an illegitimate house of law. | |
| They didn't know that this was all based on lies. | |
| I say this a lot, but that's one of the big appeals of conspiracy theories is this idea that you're not one of the dum-dums. | |
| Sleepwalking through life, you know what's really going on. | |
| Yes, exactly. | |
| You are the elect. | |
| You are one who has the secret knowledge. | |
| Yeah. And this makes you better than other people. | |
| Yeah, you know what the 11 herbs and spices are. | |
| Yes, damn right. | |
| Damn right. | |
| You've gone to KFC's Twitter feed and seen the 11 guys named Herb, no, 6 guys named Herb and the 5 Spice Girls. | |
| Yes. And you get the joke. | |
| You totally get it. | |
| Cunning, you brilliant little boy. | |
| Let me tussle your hair and pinch your cheeks. | |
| You're so smart. | |
| But where this came from is actually nothing. | |
| It's literally something Sovereign Citizens just made up about the flag. | |
| And basically, people just decided to put gold fringe on flags for... | |
| Funerals and other special ceremonies because they just thought the gold fringe made the flag pop. | |
| It's purely aesthetic. | |
| It's a totally aesthetic thing and under flag code you cannot do anything to the body of the flag but nothing in flag code says you can't put a trim on the flag. | |
| So gold fringe... | |
| Does not violate flag code, nor does it indicate any specific change in the laws of the building you just walked into. | |
| Because you were walking down the street and someone hung a flag out their window and you were in regular America. | |
| Then you dipped into a courthouse and now you are subject to maritime law. | |
| Because that's how these people think. | |
| And it's like, no, that's not how this works. | |
| They just wanted to add some flair to their flag. | |
| They just wanted to make their flag pop. | |
| That was all there was. | |
| But no, that's not what's going on. | |
| You know the secret truth. | |
| You are the smart boy. | |
| One thing I found real interesting when I was reading up on this was that the Sovereign Citizen Movement was started by a bunch of white supremacists, but despite that, the Sovereign Citizen Movement itself is not Actually, white supremacist. | |
| I mean, like a lot of these far-right conspiracy theories, most of the adherents are middle-aged white men. | |
| But as we pointed out before, there are Moorish, aka black, sovereign citizens out there. | |
| And you see moving in and out of the countries. | |
| I think the Philippines has a sovereign citizen movement going on. | |
| So it's just interesting how it got started by white supremacists, but somehow that... | |
| I think there's still, like, aspects that are white supremacist, because it's, like, heavy in militia culture. | |
| Because there's, like, there's a pretty big component of, like... | |
| Okay, so sovereign citizens are listeners. | |
| They are not cool, like, fuck the government, like, in the cool way. | |
| Because they actually love sheriffs. | |
| They think sheriffs are, like, the only kind of legitimate form of... | |
| Yeah, they think they're like the highest elected official in any given area. | |
| They're the highest elected official, and they're also the only legitimate form of law enforcement because they're elected by the people. | |
| And it's not a federal position. | |
| It's a local position. | |
| So they have some like of sheriffs, and then there's like Sof-Sit ideology within the sheriff's movement. | |
| They call them constitutional sheriffs. | |
| And this is big in Arizona because the guy who founded it, Richard Mack, is literally, he was a former Arizona sheriff, and a lot of the right-wing sheriffs here in Arizona consider themselves to be constitutional sheriffs. | |
| Don't they have a convention every year down in Arizona or something? | |
| It's not like a convention, but Richard Mack does come here often, and they do hold events often, and they hold like a semi... | |
| Like, quarterly event at this point where they go down to the border. | |
| Because, like, this is the more racist component of SovSid ideology is that they reject the federal government in terms of, like, border control because they want to be the ones that are shooting at people at the border. | |
| So that's why there's, like, this... | |
| Yeah, it's a lot. | |
| when the Sovcits kind of like start to like the constitutional sheriffs kind of are like friendly with more like militia types. | |
| And this is when you start seeing like people who it's not really like posses anymore. | |
| Like it was in the Arpaio days. | |
| It's more like you guys can do whatever you want and we're just going to turn a blind eye. | |
| Um, So, yeah, this is kind of the more like. | |
| As long as we like what you're doing. | |
| Yeah. Yeah, this is. | |
| Kind of like some First Amendment auditors kind of are like soft city. | |
| I'm not totally... | |
| I like some First Amendment auditors. | |
| I'm like, yeah, fuck them up. | |
| Ask them cops some questions. | |
| This is people who are in the Posse Calamitatis Act that think that this basically... | |
| That's the legal... | |
| Underpinning of this argument that sheriffs are the highest law in an area. | |
| I'm glad you brought those guys up because I had no idea how to pronounce that. | |
| I probably got it wrong too. | |
| Basically, I think I remember that's how Rachel Maddow said it back when this was like a real thing that people were sinking their teeth into. | |
| But yeah, and this was a law passed in 1878, which I think is pretty much just... | |
| Like, Reconstruction bullshit. | |
| It's just the kind of stuff that... | |
| Yeah, Rutherford B. Hayes was the one who signed into the law, and he was the prick who ended Reconstruction. | |
| Yeah, some sovereign citizens think that this whole... | |
| that this illegitimate government got set up after the Civil War, or some think it was during Reconstruction. | |
| Some even go so far back as to say that the founders created an illegitimate government by taking God's natural law away from us. | |
| Because, of course, there's some religious nuts offsets out there. | |
| Oh, there's a guy in QAnon that I see every now and then. | |
| I mean, he's mostly a raging anti-Semite, but when he goes down the other pathways, he's really hilarious. | |
| And his whole argument is that we didn't even win the Revolutionary War. | |
| Always been enthralled to the British crown. | |
| Yorktown was an inside job, is basically this guy's mentality. | |
| Which, that would be a t-shirt I would wear that no one would understand. | |
| It would require a lot of conversations. | |
| But yeah. | |
| Oh, and fun fact, Terry Nichols, the lesser known perpetrator of the Oklahoma City bombing, was a sovereign citizen. | |
| And a militia guy. | |
| Oh, knock me over with a feather. | |
| There's like some other notable white supremacists that have been tied to the soft-sit movement, but also a lot of listeners might be more familiar with this, is that there's a lot of soft-sit ideology like He's | |
| like a radical LDS. | |
| And, um... | |
| I think Stuart Rhodes infamously fucking got the fuck out of there because he thought that Obama was going to drop a bomb on them or something. | |
| Just the most paranoid fucks all with guns. | |
| A couple of Arizona politicians were there, like Gosar and Kelly Ward. | |
| Incredibly fringe people tied to this ideology. | |
| I remember for a while he was becoming a big folk hero in the Tea Party movement because they were constantly looking for the guy who they could hang their pin on as the face of the movement. | |
| And then he went on the news and started dropping some... | |
| Just dropping some racial comments, and then they're all like, okay, let's find the next guy. | |
| You are no longer our spokesperson. | |
| On to the next guy to be our spokesperson. | |
| As I recall, what he said was that whenever he was driving around, he'd see all these black welfare collectors just sitting around doing nothing on their porches. | |
| Yikes. Yeah. | |
| The Bundys, they used to live in Arizona, I think, like some of them, and they do kind of have that kind of Oh, sure, because, you know, they're rootin' tootin' vigilantes. | |
| Yeah, and in some ways, they kind of got away with a lot of what they did in that particular standoff, and even people that had to, like, get, like, saw a jury, like, the jury sympathized with their story, because they took the stand and kind of presented themselves as these, like, Wholesome cowboys living off of what used to be the old land now getting taken over by the big old federal government. | |
| I'm just a simple country racist. | |
| Yeah. The, uh, the, the, the... | |
| LaVoy Finnegan was the only person that died in these standoffs. | |
| He was involved in a shootout with the federal law enforcement at the occupation of the Wildlife Refuge. | |
| I remember they were trying to make a new Ruby Ridge out of that one. | |
| Yeah, and at the gun events here, they have booths and books and a whole culture around him. | |
| He similarly has that kind of folk hero status amongst the fringe militia. | |
| So yeah. | |
| Nothing they love like a murder. | |
| Yeah, literally. | |
| And also, he wrote a book. | |
| They still sell his book, and it was kind of like a kind of sovereign citizen-y, like cowboy living on the lands kind of shit. | |
| So yeah, Arizona's chock full of these guys. | |
| Yeah. These are the simple people of the American West. | |
| The salt of the earth. | |
| You know, morons. | |
| Yeah, people who still think that we're living in cowboy times, and they like... | |
| Idolize this era. | |
| You live in one of the biggest cities. | |
| I know. | |
| One person I wanted to bring up here is QAnon promoter and friend of the show, Martin Geddes. | |
| He Totally got brainwarmed in the QAnon, has been like a quote-unquote thought leader of the QAnon movement for a long time, which is not great. | |
| That's a bit of an oxymoron. | |
| Yes, it is. | |
| But boy howdy, when that man posts something on Substack, does he immediately grab like five or six tweets and quote tweet and retweet them about how people are like, oh, Martin was another banger! | |
| Oh, man! | |
| And... Even though Martin's a Brit and you would think he'd be immune to this stuff, he has spent the past, I don't know, like half year arguing about a property bill that he is not going to pay because his city's attempts to collect this debt from him are illegitimate. | |
| And boy howdy is he not going to play nice with them. | |
| I mean, this can only end poorly for him. | |
| This obviously is going to go no other way than bad. | |
| But when you have the devout faith of a man who said that Q was absolutely totally going to win this whole thing in July of 2018, and you're still at it in 2025, I mean, you do you, bro. | |
| You just keep pushing that rock up that hill. | |
| Live your best Sisyphean life. | |
| Well, hell, I mean, that GoFundMe ain't gonna crown swords itself. | |
| Yeah, oh yeah. | |
| Yeah, I'm looking through names of prominent quote-unquote sobsit people, and they got a picture right here of a Cliven and Eamon Bundy. | |
| And they're wearing cowboy hats, of course. | |
| Oh my god, this picture is great. | |
| They got... | |
| Cliven's wearing these worn-down boots and, you know, jeans with just a little bit of wear in them, and they both got their plaid shirts on. | |
| But Eamon has his iPhone sticking out of the pocket. | |
| I'm just a simple country man with my iPhone 16 Pro. | |
| Oh my god, and I just noticed Clive and Bunny's wearing a bolo tie. | |
| You can't get more folksy than that. | |
| Oh god. | |
| Oh god. | |
| I love that. | |
| I mostly love the bolo tie because one week a year in Vegas when the rodeo came to town, we were allowed to dress western in the casino for all the cowboys, so that was like a thing that guys would bust out. | |
| Well, the male dealers would bust out the bolo tie. | |
| Some of the ladies would bust out the bolo tie, too, but it was mostly a guy thing. | |
| Yeah. Yeah. | |
| Bolo ties are a product of Arizona. | |
| Oh, yeah? | |
| Yeah, I think they were invented in Tucson. | |
| It's like an indigenous thing. | |
| Of course it is. | |
| Let's bring some cultural appropriation into it while we're at it. | |
| Let's see. | |
| We're still off track. | |
| Oh, are we ever on track? | |
| I mean, that's really... | |
| This is kind of our being. | |
| This is the way of our pod, is to just start with a thing and then just riff from that thing as best we can. | |
| Here's something I forgot about that Dr. Sartish would bring up now and then, was a lot of these sobsits, when they're presenting their Some of them do. | |
| Isn't that part of the thing? | |
| Don't some of them do do that? | |
| Well, I think that's why they use red ink, because it's supposed to symbolize blood. | |
| But I'm sure there are some wackos out there using actual blood to do it. | |
| Because how could there not be? | |
| I mean, that's just the way these people operate. | |
| Yeah, I guess some of them believe that if they sign in blood, it's a symbol of sovereignty and it gives a document legal binding. | |
| So that's cool. | |
| Others use red ink because it represents the blood of the flesh and blood person. | |
| And not the straw man. | |
| Not the corporate shell that is created by your birth certificate. | |
| Yeah, not the fake corporate entity that's gathering millions of dollars that can't be yours for the low price of $2,000 at my seminar. | |
| Yep. Oh, man. | |
| Quick three-hour seminar for only two grand, and I will tell you how to turn your birth certificate into at least a high six-figure payout. | |
| Let me tell you. | |
| I mean, what does that person do after that seminar? | |
| Just, like, flee the state? | |
| It's like, what the fuck? | |
| I know, you figure it's got to be like the snake oil salesman, you know, running, holding onto his hat so it doesn't fall off as he flees town. | |
| Right. It's like the old timey... | |
| Have you ever heard of the Wild West soap scam? | |
| No. Oh, so in the Wild West, what would happen is a lot of people would be running scams, so people would be wary of a person who came into town just... | |
| Overtly running a scam at the start of their presentation. | |
| But what would happen is these guys would walk in and be like, Hey, everybody! | |
| You're all a bunch of filthy cowboys. | |
| I got this lovely soap here to make you all good and clean. | |
| And... Then they would have their shills, they would have their people in the crowd buy a few bars of soap. | |
| And then after, and maybe some other people would buy bars of soap and they would regulate if the people not in the scam which bars they would get. | |
| And then one of the people that was in on the scam would unwrap their bar of soap and be like, oh my goodness, there was a $5 bill in this bar of soap! | |
| And then the guy selling the soap would be like, oh, I didn't mention that! | |
| A few of these bars do happen to have some money wrapped around them. | |
| There's even a $100 bill in there somewhere! | |
| And... Then people would trample over themselves to buy the bars of soap and they would get down to the last three or four bars and the $100 bar would mysteriously not have been sold yet. | |
| And then the guy running the scam would auction off the last few bars and always one of his confederates would win the $100 bar and then they would flee town and go to the next town and do the soap scam to them. | |
| So that is the soap scam. | |
| And that's what I'm imagining this person doing after they do their birth certificate seminar. | |
| It's just like fleeing to the next Wild West town where hopefully people who are onto them are not sending the local sheriff to catch them as they try to scam more people out of fucking money by selling bars of soap. | |
| Like I was saying earlier, a lot of them will do like the, oh, well, Yeah. | |
| have people like, oh, I did it. | |
| Now I got my 200. | |
| I got my quarter million. | |
| Like they've got their fake influencer asshole friends who've got the nice house or whatever or the nice car that they can pretend. | |
| Right. | |
| To use wrestling parlance, they got the smarts and the marks out there. | |
| Yes, yes, yes. | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| I love the... | |
| The kayfabe. | |
| I love kayfabe. | |
| I love smarts and marks. | |
| And most easily, because we have that in sports betting also, where we have squares and sharps. | |
| I just love when someone bets the big favorite and it's like, oh god, it's such a fucking square bet. | |
| But you know what? | |
| He has a chance to win. | |
| Squares do get to win. | |
| That's how that works. | |
| This has nothing to do with sovereign citizens. | |
| Go to hell. | |
| It doesn't matter. | |
| You're listening to us because we're entertaining and charismatic. | |
| And handsome. | |
| Oh, and handsome. | |
| That's why you're listening to an audio medium. | |
| All five of them. | |
| All five of them. | |
| Mike, I have a question. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| Have there been any new developments as far as the JFK stuff? | |
| Not really. | |
| I mean, it's just been a massive turd polishing exercise for these people at this point. | |
| Just this frantic effort to try to make something out of it. | |
| I mean, it's just the standard, how can we pin this on the Jews? | |
| That's really what these people are into now. | |
| It's just, let's just blame the Jews for everything because they're the bad guys in our story. | |
| I see some guys trying to fight the good fight being like, oh, this shows how the CIA is really bad. | |
| And it's like, not really. | |
| You just want to blame the Jews. | |
| Just go ahead. | |
| It's okay. | |
| We all know what you want. | |
| Just do it. | |
| Just let your anti-Semitic freak flag fly. | |
| Just live your best life. | |
| So yeah. | |
| Yeah, that's all I've been saying is blaming Jewish people for it, which is... | |
| It's like, it wasn't... | |
| There was no big truce that were going to happen in this, so it was just always going to be... | |
| It was just kind of like a lot of technical stuff, like unveiling how the CIA operated kind of at the time, which was semi... | |
| is semi-interesting. | |
| Like historical value, but besides that, it's not like you're finding out there was a second shooter. | |
| I just love that Trump came out and said, yeah, I don't think there's anything earth-shaking in it. | |
| It's like, once again! | |
| When your boy sells you out that hard, like, what the fuck? | |
| To me, it's like watching Dragon Ball Z, where you're like, okay, this episode, this is where the big fight's gonna happen, and instead it's just another 30 minutes of them powering up and talking to each other. | |
| Planet Namek will explode at any minute next time on Dragon... | |
| Planet Namek's been almost exploding for six episodes! | |
| What the fuck? | |
| Oh, man. | |
| Oh, man. | |
| Oh, those were the days. | |
| So, anyhow, we've lost the plot, so we're going to get out of here. | |
| Let's get out of here. | |
| Everyone have a good one. | |
| We'll take care of you. | |
| A little hour ten episode of the pod. | |
| Thank you for listening. | |
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| Help me out. | |
| You know this is an addiction of mine. | |
| I can't help it. | |
| If you don't want to do that because that's a huge waste of your money, I don't blame you. | |
| You could spend your money going to a sovereign citizen meeting where you can find out how to turn your birth certificate into money, into a quarter million dollars maybe. | |
| Don't do that either. | |
| Just go to love146.org and donate to people who are fighting human trafficking because that's an actual good thing to do. | |
| Thanks to DJ Minimal Effort for our theme music that I accidentally remixed. | |
| Thanks to Frosty for the opening intro bump, and maybe I'll make a new bump for the show now that we do this thing where we small talk for like 20 minutes and then begrudgingly, arm-twistingly get into the topic of the week. | |
| Thank you all for listening, and we will catch you all later. | |
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