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April 16, 2025 - Adventures in HellwQrld
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Adventures in HellwQrld Presents: The Nephilim Conspiracy

This week we're joined by Quacks who is our resident expert on Bible Giants and we talk about them, pyramids, and the underlying racism of this conspiracy. Get bonus content on PatreonSupport this show http://supporter.acast.com/hellwqrld. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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The Adventures in Hellworld podcast talks in-depth about QAnon.
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Hello, everybody.
I am Mike Rains, a.k.a.
Poker and Politics, and welcome to another episode of Adventures in Hellworld, where we still have roofs over our heads for another week.
Thank goodness.
I am joined, as always, by Chaley, a.k.a.
Haley, a.k.a.
Arizona Rightwatch.
Hello, everybody.
I can't think of anything non-negative to say at the moment, so I'll just say what up.
What up?
I'm also joined by Eric, the Deep State Operative.
I'm feeling very positive because I had a good night's sleep in my pyramid-shaped bed last night, and I'm full of organ or whatever you want to call it.
We're also joined by Steph.
I'm here with Mossman.
Mothman is, in fact, in the house.
This is an accurate statement.
And we are finally joined by our special guest who knows all about the Nephilim.
It's Quacks.
I wouldn't say everything.
Steph definitely likes to oversell me on things, but the Nephilim definitely come into a lot of what I study, so I've had to brush up on them numerous times.
Is it because you're a believer?
No. I just love the stage partnership there.
The aggressive lead-in by Hayley, the crushing rebuke by Quacks.
They slapped me down.
I was kind of expecting a little back and forth on that, but just, no.
Stop it.
The Hellworld trademark no end, where you just crush the other person immediately.
Yeah. Back in the 90s, I got pretty deep into the occult and did a lot of Western ceremonial magic type stuff.
Got connected in with the local OTO and did a bunch of angel magic and it was, you know, it's like,
felt things there, but, you know.
I can still come out of it and say, I believe that was entirely in my head.
That's the important thing, is to figure out that it's not an existential force.
It's not something from without.
I remember the good old days when I was hanging out in my teenage years with my buddy who thought he was a werewolf and all those people.
And I remember one dude.
Talking about how he had three malevolent spirits in his brain and he had managed to rip one of the malevolent spirits out and trap it in a specially consecrated jar so that it was no longer vexing him and that he was going to have to rest up for a couple weeks and go for a malevolent spirit number two.
And I was like, hey, I hope that works for you, buddy.
I hope you get them all out and I hope you put them in the jars.
Was your friend named Wesley Willis by any chance?
I have...
No. Sadly, again, bam!
The no end returns just as strong.
I don't know if any of you guys know who Wesley Willis is, because he's kind of a...
He was kind of a local legend.
Okay, yeah, but he was on Howard Stern, so that helped from Mona.
But basically, he was a musical artist of sorts who was a formerly homeless guy who had schizophrenia and had...
He had voices that he referred to as demons, and there were three of them that he named Nerve Wrecker, Heartbreaker, and Means Sucker.
And so you're telling me about this guy fighting three malevolent spirits, and all I can think of is Wesley Willis.
That man, that's like a wild.
He kind of had that personality, but not to diss him.
He's dead.
That's fine.
Well, actually, so is Wesley Willis.
I was fortunate enough to leave him about six months before he died.
Interesting. I wouldn't presume to say that Wesley Willis or whoever the other guy is don't actually have to deal with spirits.
I tend to take the agnostic approach.
We don't necessarily know what's out there, but when you get into the idea of the Nephilim and angels coming down and having sex with humans, that stretches over my head.
Your willing suspension of disbelief goes away at that point?
Yep, it just cuts off right there.
And actually, even if you, you know, it's supposed to be something that's developed in the Bible, but if you actually look at the Bible, how it's written in Hebrew, and I'm not a Hebrew scholar, but, you know, just knowing the words and having read about, you know, something like 40 different people's interpretations of this,
I would say that...
There's a good case for saying that that's not the actual story that's presented in the Bible.
I've only read the King James Version, but the Nephilim in there are basically a footnote.
I think they're brought up once in Genesis or Exodus.
I can't remember which one.
They're brought up three times.
First in Genesis 6, then in The word pops up in Numbers, and it pops up again in Ezekiel.
And Ezekiel has the most case that it could be referring to the original Nephilim, but I don't subscribe to that translation.
And Ezekiel also has the UFO.
Oh, yeah, I was going to ask, but yeah, the wheels within wheels and that.
Yeah, so everybody, just so you know, while we're trying to avoid reminding ourselves about the fact that all our money is effectively worthless and we will all soon be living in a Mad Max-like hellscape, this week's episode is going to be devoted to the pyramids and the Nephilim.
We're going to be talking about this confluence of dumb bullshit and ancient aliens hoo-ha.
You probably caught on your timeline this week.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
On Twitter still.
Hayley, we need yelling out of you.
You're so quiet.
Oh, sorry.
I said you probably saw it on your timeline this week if you still scroll Twitter, like, conspiracies about the pyramids.
Yeah, there was this, like, photo of the pyramids with, like, giant corkscrews, like, ripping into the earth.
And it was like, we have no idea how deep the pyramids went.
The truth is horrifying.
And basically...
Pyramids are some sort of ancient rocket or something.
I can't even wrap my head around it.
It's back when that idiot said that the pyramids were granaries.
I had some background here.
I looked into the article that was going around and what Joe Rogan was promoting and also Tucker Carlson and also Stu Peters and literally every right-wing fuckwad on the timeline.
Essentially, there was this article that came out from the New York Post that went viral, and then also Joe Rogan talked about this video that was shared by Greg Reese.
White supremacist.
And it was kind of mixing up two pieces of news about the pyramids in Egypt.
And also, it was mixing up pyramids.
Okay, anyways.
So, essentially, the New York Post article was sharing old information about this, like, scan.
This, like, actual, like, backed by research papers and credentialed people.
It's called, like, a synthetic aperture radar scan.
And it essentially gave a better reading of the layout of the inside of the pyramid.
So, like, we previously knew that there was a king's chamber and a queen's chamber and, like, a gallery and all this shit.
But this helped to map out, like, ramps and some of the specific structures within some of the chambers and, like, these really intricate, like, corridors and some that go below ground.
Then, in the New York...
This was about the Khufu pyramid, I believe, that their scan was about.
This video from Greg Reese and then some also information in this New York Post article.
Then introduced some so-called research by this group called the Caffrey Project, which seems semi...
It's, like, at least backed by universities, but I don't know how legit their findings are, because they had a press conference, or, like, a presser about, like, this research that they supposedly found, but it hasn't been, like, double-checked,
and a lot of, like, Egyptologists were like, it's fake news, their research findings, and it hasn't been, like, peer-reviewed.
But it claims that's where a lot of those images of the spirals going down come from, is that they claim that they essentially discovered networks going down the length of two Eiffel Towers.
And this has made conspiracy theorists go like, okay, this confirms Nephilim.
This confirms alien tech.
This confirms that it's a rocket.
This confirms that it has time traveled.
This confirms...
That it's an energy machine.
This confirms Nikola Tesla was involved.
This confirms...
You get the point.
So that's kind of the background of what's been going on on the timeline lately if you've been online.
Did anyone see this?
Am I crazy?
Is this just my crazy timeline?
No, I saw the pyramid of the corkscrew photo on my timeline.
I never looked at the article, but I was just like, oh, we're doing this shit again.
We're just doing...
Pyramids are spaceships or Stargates or whatever the fuck you want pyramids to be.
And all the replies had the fucking guy with the dumb hair and the hands and just aliens.
We were just doing that shit.
And we were once again getting into the whole thing where people were like, well, humans couldn't have built this, so who did?
Nephilim. It's like, okay, great.
Go ahead, Eric.
Okay. One thing that interested me about what you were saying is somehow I missed those pictures.
Maybe it's because I've been on a break and I haven't been on Twitter much.
But anyway, the corkscrews thing, trigger to memory, back in the day I read several...
books on quote-unquote pyramid power.
And one of them, this woman was saying that solar energy comes down into pyramids in a double helix kind of pattern.
And that I never remember how to pronounce it.
The medical symbol with the two snakes, it's like Caduceus or something like that.
Yeah, that's close enough.
Yeah. Okay.
Yeah. So she was saying that that is actually a diagram of what energy...
Flowing through a pyramid looks like.
So to hear that these people did some ground-penetrating radar or whatever and found these corkscrews down there, it sounds like some people got really excited and were like, oh, look, look, we've been saying this since the 70s.
Yeah. And they have.
I don't know how accurate their findings are.
And they use, like, this satellite technology to detect underground.
The pictures, if listeners, if you haven't seen them, are like, it looks like there's very good, like, high modern technology down there.
Or like a whole city, which is very funny.
Oh yeah, I'm looking at, like, Google search for how deep in the ground are the pyramids and, like, the amount of just absolute mind-melting bullshit that comes up is, like...
Are you kidding me?
I've seen a lot of stuff on this because I've gotten kind of connected into the pseudo-archaeology scene, but I've just been too busy to actually really look into what the new news is.
I was only aware we were doing Nephilim or I would have brushed up on the pyramid before coming in here.
Oh, we never prepare for the pod, so don't worry about that.
You can blame me.
Yeah, I blame Steph.
I saw Jack Posobiec talking about how this was proof that Nephilim built the pyramids, so do you ever hear that conspiracy?
You ever hear that?
Well, the Nephilim get blamed for everything, because the Nephilim connect into the whole ancient aliens thing.
Their standard narrative is that the aliens came down, had sex with humans, and these hybrid giants built all these ancient monoliths.
Because they were giants, they were able to do all this stuff that they say that primitive humans couldn't have done, even though, obviously, they were able to do a lot of things.
Yeah, that's a big cornerstone of...
The ancient alien hypothesis that a lot of the stuff that we see was not possible with technology that existed back then.
And a lot of that is the result of, one, they claim a lot of this stuff is way older than it is.
So, yeah, sure.
If you're going to say that this building in South America is 10,000 years old, yeah, nobody could do that 10,000 years ago.
But also, it's...
Like, you read about it, a lot of the techniques that I've read about that they used back then were stuff that nobody in the 21st century would have the patience to do.
Like, it would take, like, days of, like, scraping rocks with sand in order to shape it into the exact, you know, form that you need it in.
And, you know, just a level of craftsmanship that just does not exist today.
You'd need a 3D printer to do it for you at this point.
Yeah. And then, like, they'll do stuff like they'll do, like, appeal to authority where they'll grab a guy who, like, is a foreman on a construction site and be like, can you think of a way that this building could have been made without modern construction equipment?
And he'd be like, no, I can't.
And they're like, see?
Proof. There's no way it could have been done back then.
And, you know, I mean, and I'm not saying that the guy working the construction site is stupid or anything.
It's just he's...
He has a limited skill set that he's working with, and this is totally outside of the scope of what he does, so there's no way he'd be able to say anything on the subject.
And all the people that knew the details of how they actually did it are, of course, dead.
Yes. Oh, it's like when people talk to the astronauts who went to the moon, and then they ask, why haven't we gone back?
They'll say, oh, we got rid of all that stuff, or the means to get there doesn't exist anymore.
And people are like, aha!
And it's like, no.
All the moon landing equipment was specifically made for that mission.
We just haven't made more of it, because we're not going back to the moon.
So, like, it's not because we can't do it.
It's because it's time-consuming.
It would cost a lot of money to do it.
Yeah, we did it back in the 70s because we were trying to thumb our nose at the communists.
Now there's no reason to do that, you know, to promote American exceptionalism or anything.
Right. We no longer need to have a peaceful way to show that we can hit you with a nuclear weapon via the space race.
We're like, guess what?
You know we can hit you with a nuke, so shut up.
We don't need to go to the moon to prove that anymore.
All right, Quacks, I have another question for you since you mentioned pseudo-archaeology.
Sure. Have you ever heard of the Bosnian pyramids?
I've heard of them, but I've never really looked into them.
Have you ever heard of the mound builder myth?
The mound builders?
Yeah, again, pyramids and mounds.
They're in the territory of the stuff that I always come across, but I would definitely not say that I'm in any way authoritative of being able to describe them.
Sorry, go ahead.
Or really, you know, to comment on them with anything that I would feel confidently be authoritative.
This goes a little in the field of the pyramids, but it's similar.
Have you heard about Robert Schock and his theories about the Sphinx?
I'm not great with names, so I've probably...
I'm more of a religion studies guy.
I've always been sort of peripheral to the...
The Egyptology, the pyramids, and all that because it intersects with so much that I do, but I've never really dove directly into those.
The pyramids enough to say that we do actually have some idea of how the stuff was built, how it was put together, like there's receipts for stones and things like that.
Yeah, I've heard that there's still paperwork that survived, showing diagrams and whatnot.
Yeah, I'm not saying that we have perfect evidence, but we have some general idea of how they moved large stones around and things like that.
But all of that is usually discarded.
They'll find some way.
You know, anytime you add evidence into anything, they find some way to get around it, as, you know, anyone that's really paid attention to conspiracy theories would know, because pseudo-archaeology is really just a subset of conspiracy theories.
please. Thank you.
I love that we have cryptozoology, cryptoarchaeology.
We just have nuts.
Versions of the regular thing.
It's like, here's the normal thing, and then here's nut version of the normal thing.
Oh, thank God.
I would hate to just have normal thing.
Why have that when I can add insanity on top of it?
Yeah, just about anything.
Even fandom now.
There's the regular fandom and then there's the nutjobs.
And unfortunately the nutjobs are usually the ones who show up in the news and stuff and make everyone else look like fanatics.
That's the thing is that we now consume media in a conspiratorial way where everything has to be analyzed and scrutinized.
Why did that clock...
Say, 3.31 when it was established earlier in the show that we were in the evening.
Why was that clock wrong by five hours?
What does that mean?
And it's like, it was a production error.
That's what it meant.
It meant they just put the wrong clock on the set for that shot.
I'm sorry.
I mean, but that's the thing, is that everything's an Easter egg now.
Everything's now a clue because the characters in your show are nine-dimensional super geniuses who never make a mistake.
And the same thing with your esteemed president.
The stock market crashing today was actually defeating the Illuminati.
It was not gutting your 401k because he's economically illiterate.
Don't talk about topical news.
Get back to the pyramids, Mike.
I gotta say though, I saw my first episode of Ancient Aliens because of this topic.
And I specifically went to the Pyramid one.
It's like season 4 or 5 or something.
And it mentioned all these crazy fucking other conspiracies.
The mountain builder shit.
The Bosnian Pyramid.
I'm fucking talking Tesla technology.
Yeah, they tend to really cast a wide net in those episodes.
Like, they'll start off talking about, you know, the Pyramid of Khufu, and then, like, ten minutes later, suddenly it's the Nazis.
I really gotta say, though, it's like, I know that I'm being cliche here by saying it's racist as fuck, and also just, like, it's just, like, not good.
I mean, it is good TV in the sense that it's entertainment, but it's just like, holy shit, this is stupid.
I laughed out loud several times because it's just so stupid.
I watch H.A.L.E.S.
for the same reason that some people used to watch Jerry Springer, just to point at the idiots and laugh at them.
Yeah, I like to find the screenshots of where they're showing Sanskrit upside down and things like that.
But people should understand that there's a direct Danakin?
people particularly like David Wilcock and
I'm blanking on his name but one of the major
the guy
Danikin? Wilcox, Danikin.
Shit, I'm blanking.
But anyway, he did a whole bunch of stuff on Nazi UFOs.
So there's a huge crossover with all sorts of weird conspiracy stuff and the ancient alien scene.
Yeah, I was going to actually...
I'm going to bring up David Wilcock, because you mentioned you're mostly from a faith point of view, and I know from looking into him that he has this whole kind of weird faith network thing going in the background, like when he's not doing Ancient Aliens.
Yeah, he's really into the whole the raw stuff, Law of One, which is a predecessor behind a lot of the The weird QAnon New Age conspiracy people.
Yeah, and it's weird how much crossover you see with New Age and QAnon, because one is generally thought of as a left-wing conspiracy, and the other is generally thought of as a right-wing conspiracy.
But from what I've seen in my own reading of it, a lot of people came into QAnon from a left-wing point of view, and as they got pilled, they became more.
Well, there's a big myth that the New Age movement is like this hippie leftist thing, but it's been very far right.
Anti-Semitism goes right back in the New Age movement to before it was a New Age movement.
If you look at particularly like William Dudley Pele was actually thrown in jail for his Pro-Nazi sedition.
But David Hatcher Childress is the one I was trying to think of.
I had to open up my library folder.
Yeah, that's what I was trying to say, but everyone was talking.
Yeah, Childress, he's one of the big guys on there, along with Suclos, the a.k.a.
hair guy.
Yeah. Suclos seems...
Sorry, go on.
He seems like the least bad of them.
In my opinion.
Maybe I just don't know too much about him as opposed to Childress and Wilcock and a few of the others.
Yeah, he's kind of disarming because he doesn't mind poking fun at himself and stuff, so I think that kind of puts people off their guard with him.
Yeah. He was on Citizen Alien basically playing a parody of himself.
So I think that gives a lot of people the idea of, oh, he's harmless.
He can laugh at himself.
He's in on the pit, so how can we be worried about him?
I mean, I think a lot of these pseudo-archaeological conspiracies and similar so-called fringe conspiracies Are seen as harmless because they're so kooky,
but then it's like you kind of like scratch like the tiniest bit of the surface and you can see how a lot of it is like, yeah, anti-Semitic or fucking just repurposed Nazi shit or white supremacist shit, like I said.
A lot of the Nazi shit comes out of the same source.
Yeah. So it's very close.
I mean, I actually kind of consider the Nazis to be a New Age movement.
Oh, yeah, the Nazis were into all kinds of, like, dumb occult and woo-woo bullshit.
I mean, they were, like, while they were getting their asses paddled, they were looking for the sphere of destiny.
Especially Himmler.
Yeah. And the whole real energy thing and all that.
That's definitely been blown out of proportion, but there is something to the whole idea of this, you know, Third Reich is a millenarian movement.
The function of the anti-Semitism.
Just by being millenarian, it is somewhat of a new age.
For our audience, explain what a millenarian movement is.
Give me a second on that one.
I find that hard to do without using other words that then I'll have to explain down the line.
We got nothing but time.
We're all unemployed now.
I've been unemployed for years.
I know, but now all we do is podcast and pray for death.
All right.
Millenarianism, it's basically...
The idea of the great cataclysm is coming, the world is ending, and then we're going to have this new age that comes after.
I think that's the best way to sum it up without...
Like a great awakening?
And I think that came about...
A great awakening is a millenarian concept, yes.
And I think the millenarianism, correct me if I'm wrong, I think that kind of...
Came about and led to what was called the Burned Over District in New York, which doesn't mean that it was burned down.
It meant that there were no more people to evangelize.
And, you know, what word I'm trying to say?
Evangelize. Yes, thank you.
Yeah, most of the religions that have popped out of that district were basically millenarian in some respect.
Yeah, those really had their heyday in the 90s.
I think that's actually part of the etymology of millenarianism because they thought that once the millennium changed, then suddenly you're going to get Shadowrun where the sixth world and the awakening happens and magic comes back and all that stuff.
Even I kind of have a low-key belief in that kind of thing.
I read the Dancing Wu Li Masters and I was convinced for a couple years that there was going to be this Awakening where science and spiritualism come together and create whole new branches of understanding of the world.
I, too, long for the arrival of Daniel Howland Coyote.
But I think a lot of people have this idea of the New Age movement as basically just a bunch of woo.
And that gets around the fundamental concept of, you know, they're talking about there being a new age, and the transition to that new age very often involves some sort of cataclysmic violence and an overthrow of the existing order.
There's a lot of dualism wrapped up in it, which is...
You know, they usually try to pull this, everything is one, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
But you really end up with a light versus darkness.
And a lot of people also think of it as something separate than Christianity, but most New Agers are some form of Christian.
That's one of the things that was always very funny inside of QAnon, is seeing people aggressively pushing back against New Age and being way more doctrinal Christian.
And just, yo, get all these chakras and healing crystals out of my Bible, you jerks.
You're trying to make people stray from God's light.
And so now we need to cut to the chase here and get back to the fundamentals.
Yeah, that was one of my favorite.
Aspects to watch of the QAnon movement.
And I was always trying to somewhat see if I could pull a Jim Stewart and PSYOP and set them against each other.
Can we get the New Agers?
Stu Age?
Stu Age?
Stu Age.
I'm laughing and then I laugh more because I think about the rage that Stu would feel having his name turned into a punchline on our podcast.
No one is more self-serious and fucking unable to take the piss than that guy.
Oh my god.
Such an angry dude.
Do you know my mythology in the In this universe?
No, I can't wait to hear this.
This is incredible.
He wrote a whole blog article saying that I was a satanic sex cult leader named Jason Miller.
Not to be confused with the Trump Jason Miller, but an occult author, Jason Miller, who I used to hang out with in the 90s, back when I was associated with the OTO.
Because I mentioned in a chat once to...
The wife of the guy that left, Sean, that left his podcast, that I was somewhat known in the Philadelphia occult scene.
And she found somebody known in the Philadelphia occult scene and then matched it up with events that I had talked about going to.
And they assumed it was me, not...
Realizing that there was like 30 people in this scene and a lot of us went to the same events.
So, he swears that I'm a satanic sex cult leader and I just think that's absolutely hilarious.
I kind of got the best Stu conspiracy theory.
Yeah, at least you got a nice sexy one, you know?
Oh, and mind you, the person that he thinks I am is not a satanic sex cult leader.
Well, no.
That's so funny.
I think I actually read one of his books because the name sounded really familiar and I started looking him up and I'm seeing a couple books and the elements of spellcrafting.
I think I actually read that one.
I haven't.
Yeah, my place in the Stewiverse is just being a paid-for shill of Michael Flynn who Lies to people and deceives them from the truth of QAnon that Michael Flynn started it.
My far more exciting mythos was years previous to that.
Apparently, people told me it was on the dark web, which I think is bullshit.
I kept asking people, because various people told me this, and when I asked for confirmation or screenshots, they were all like, oh, it's in places I don't want to go.
And I was like, how the fuck did you get this?
It was that I was like some sort of lunatic that got into a fight with environmentalists in Florida, and I started committing acts of eco-terrorism against them, the biggest of which was I was relentlessly murdering snail kites.
Which is a small bird, apparently native to that area.
And I was just going around blowing away these birds.
And then I guess somehow, someway, I stopped committing my eco-terrorism and the whole thing blew over.
So you were the birdinator?
I was apparently the birdinator.
There was a while ago where someone had sent me a screenshot of a snail kite and my wallpaper, Microsoft painted a crosshair around the snail kite and made that my wallpaper to let people know, yes, I still hate snail kites.
I had to Google what a snail kite was.
I was like, what is this even?
It's a bird that apparently...
Sorry, go ahead.
No, go ahead.
Go ahead.
No, go ahead, go ahead.
Don't, don't Canadians stand off me.
God damn it.
But I just, yeah, I just was a snail kite murdering sociopath.
And then apparently I was never indicted for my eco-terrorism because reasons.
And then I returned to...
Massachusetts, which is where I've always been.
I went to Florida when I was a kid to go to Disney World.
You weren't arrested because Mike Flynn was running cover for you.
Yes! Mike Flynn sprung me.
Mike Flynn bailed me out.
He put in a call.
Or my favorite thing in these idiots is I had a good lawyer.
There's no bit I enjoy more in Out of Shadows than the guy who's like, yeah, they had Michael Cueno cold on like 30 counts of sexual assault of children, but he had a good lawyer, so he got away with it.
I'm like, oh man, that's the way America works?
You just call Saul and you get away with it?
Sweet, thank God.
So, Steph has also attained cult leader status in the East Universe.
One of you.
Tell the story.
I run a call with Fred Brennan and some guy named Doug Stewart or something.
Oh, Doug Stewart is like, yeah, he's like the Republican guy that I see every so often.
And then the moment I look at his timeline, I'm like, God damn it!
You're so MAGA.
Leave me alone.
Being on your side is weird.
I don't consider him on my side.
I know, but he's on my side in the sense that he's fighting Stu, but he's not on my side with anything else.
The enemy of your enemy is not necessarily your friend.
I know that.
Haley, have you invoked J. Stu's ire?
He doesn't give a fuck about me.
I'm just not his universe, I don't think.
I'm too Arizona-focused.
If you don't know Nazis or Arizona, you don't know me.
Which is fine.
Go make a friend with Stu.
It'd be fucking great.
My favorite thing was...
I think he keeps me blocked, too.
I think I'm just blocked.
Let's see.
One of Stu's minions, I can't remember his name, but one of Stu's minions, like, fucking...
Tried to make a big deal about the fact that he made it on the Magic Pro Tour scene back in the day.
And, I mean, I played Magic the Gathering pretty hardcore, and I looked that guy up, and he had, like, a pro record of, like, 10 wins and 14 losses on the highest level.
I was like, man, you're sub 500 in the pros.
How impressive.
That would be Jarvis, I assume.
That's Jarvis?
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah. Yeah.
I remember that guy was like, I know how to draft Magic cards.
I'm like, so do I. It's not impressive.
You picked a good one.
That guy's completely off his rocker.
I don't doubt it.
Anyone who thinks making the Magic Pro Tour is reason for looking down your nose at somebody else.
This is incredible.
Okay, I am blocked on Twitter, but I can obviously see it.
Yeah, because Elon doesn't understand how blocking works.
Yeah.
Endelig uforstyrret fred.
Avkoblet. For å være påkoblet, det som betyr noe.
Hold med elektro.
Ja, ja, det kan vi hjelpe deg med.
Hvis du setter på, ikke forstyrr da.
For ice-dekning er det jo her også.
Ice. Her kommer et podcast-tips fra Eikast.
Finnes det mer mellom himmel og jord?
Og så ser jeg at det står en kjempehøy skikkelse.
Yeah. I hope so byron borte.
It will you hear in the split new season of podcasting Uforklarely.
I think we have a deal of aliens that are going around.
And it's also something I think it's very difficult to talk about.
Lytte til Uforklarely, where you hear podcast.
We hear it.
I eteren.
Thank you.
you.
Oh yeah.
I didn't realize how many followers this guy had.
Yeah, I...
Yeah. I know, every now and then, someone I follow will, like, retweet him.
I'll be like, don't put that shit on my timeline.
Literally! Yeah, that's the only time I ever see him.
There's nothing that drives me more nuts than some being like, look at this guy taking QAnon down a peg.
And I'm like, no!
No, he's not taking QAnon down a peg.
He has no idea what the fuck he's doing.
Oh, God.
I think my local outlet here even interviewed him as an expert.
I'm not even kidding, but you know how they are.
They fucking interview Sammy the Bull.
Yeah, Sammy the Bull's going to tell you who whacked JFK because it was Chucky the Typewriter.
Oh, God.
When I become podcast rich, I want to get that contract like Emeril where Emeril got an extra $5,000 every time he said, bam.
I want to make sure every Chucky the Typewriter plug I get gets me another $10,000.
I just have to smoothly integrate him into every episode somehow.
Oh, God.
I mean, you're already doing it for free.
Yes, exactly.
After we got done recording our JFK episode last week, you immediately got into it with the producer.
You should mention that.
Oh, yeah.
That was great.
That was hilarious.
So this guy who is a producer on the Who Killed JFK podcast, he...
So Gerald Posner said something.
And Posner is a Oswald acted alone guy.
He's right about that.
But Posner's politics are dog shit.
He was busy kissing Ben Shapiro's ass.
I just saw a video of him talking to Ben Shapiro.
And he's like, Ben, you're so smart.
You know that Oswald did it.
But I'm going to explain to you why dum-dums don't believe that.
And I was just like, you don't have to tell Ben Shapiro he's smart because he's not.
Shut up.
Posner said something, and I replied to the thing Posner said.
And then the producer guy from Who Killed JFK jumped in.
And then I had a little go with that guy.
And my statement to that guy was...
Reiner didn't even bother to explain what happened during the assassination.
And then that guy was like, oh, that's what it was going to take for you to leave us?
And I was like, no!
That's what you have to do when you show your fucking work!
You can't even explain how Kennedy got murdered.
That means that you don't know what you're talking about.
So fuck you.
At least Oliver Stone and JFK had a bullshit fucking theory of how the shots got fired.
You could look at it.
You could dissect it.
Fucking Reiner was like, here are the four guys who shot him.
By the way, the throat shot was from the front and the head shot was from the triple overpass.
And that's all the information you get out of me.
And now I'm going to tell you the kids won't vote for Biden because...
The government won't admit they killed Kennedy.
And it was just like, what the fuck are you on about me?
This is a Kennedy murder podcast.
We're here to talk about Kennedy murder.
How are you fucking transitioning to the 2024 presidential election and casting this as a negative?
JFK's death is a negative on Joe Biden.
What the fuck are we even doing right now?
Do you think Joe did it?
I mean, he's old enough to.
I mean, was Joe in the grassy hole?
What the fuck are we doing?
Oh, in 60 years, I'm going to be the Catholic president, and you ain't going to outdo me, JFK!
Wham! Shoots Kennedy.
I mean, what are we doing here?
We are epically off-topic, as always.
Yeah, our audience knows this.
I mean, we should literally have a countdown in the corner for today's core word and how long we go without saying it.
Once we get the three-minute mark, it pops up.
So we're now at the six-minute mark of Nephilim, and it's like, oh, shit.
The one thing I really did enjoy from Steph was just the fact that Ancient Aliens is just so racist and so...
Yeah, brown people couldn't have built that because of brown.
I mean, obviously, look at them.
They're skinny and pale, like ours.
There's another Steph that writes about that regularly.
But I mean, yeah, it took Ancient Aliens like eight or nine seasons before they started even getting into Western civilization.
It's all Pupupunku and the Valley of Kings and everything.
And how the hell do they think that octopi are aliens?
I gotta say, with my newfound interest in, like, the oceans and shit, like, that really offends me.
Also, just, like, again, not to be the, you know, wokest guy in the room and bring down the tone, but, like, a lot of the shit that they're promoting is, like, kind of, like, assisting in cultural genocide.
Like, with the Bosnian Pyramid thing, which is, like, this fake, it's pretty simple.
It's just a pseudo-archaeological, like, claim that there's, they're just baking mountains.
There's mountains in Bosnia.
It's literally a guy who looked at a mountain and said, that kind of looks like there's a pyramid buried under some dirt.
But that guy has been, like, actually with, like, a team chipping away at the mountain, destroying actual, like, Bosnian history to make it more shaped like a pyramid.
And he was a key focus in the pyramid episode in the Ancient Aliens that I watched.
And it's like, well, that's just offensive.
And then, like, Tucker Carlson was talking mound builders, which is, like, these structures in the areas that were where the indigenous people were forcibly removed during the Trail of Tears.
And, like, it was actually a pretty common conspiracy back...
Like, an anti-indigenous, like, white people actually build this conspiracy, like, back in the day.
And I was like, damn, Tucker's, like, old-school fucking racist.
So, yeah, that's my being Debbie Downer about this.
It's totally true.
Yeah, go ahead.
Oh, did you have more?
I want to hear what we're going to say.
He's our guest.
Yeah. There's a huge, you know, the ancient American movement, which postulates that this continent was originally colonized by white people, but then they were wiped out,
and then the current Native Americans came over, and this is used to justify, like, oh, well, you know, it was our land first.
I used to read this magazine back in the 90s, Ancient American, and it would always say, oh, they found these Nordic-looking runes in whatever far-flung part of the United States.
It turns out that guy that published that is a complete Nazi.
Classic. Yeah.
The more you dig into it, the more Nazis you find.
Oh, shocking!
So shocking!
It's Nazis all the way down.
It is so much!
Yeah. I remember...
The one thing I remember about Ancient Aliens isn't the Nazism and all that horrible evil.
It's just the absurdity of the shit they talk about where...
They'll start with a thing and start with a thing, and then out of nowhere they'll be like, is it possible they had a nuclear reactor?
And it's like, no, it's not!
It fucking isn't!
What are you even on about me?
What are we doing here?
I enjoyed the montage, the Is It Possible montage in ContraPoints.
Yeah, that was great.
Because that's what they do.
That's exactly how they operate.
But some of the time, the Is It Possible gets just so out of left field.
It's so far afield of reality that...
If you're not watching this show to laugh at it, then, oh man, you are in a bad place.
You are the most captured audience that's ever been captured.
Man. So, I did have one thing that I kept meaning to bring up, but we kept going off in the left field.
So, Quax, are you familiar at all with Zachariah Sitchin and the Anunnaki and all that?
Yeah, I have tried to read Sitchin twice, but I find him so intolerable that I haven't gotten through his actual material,
but he is very influential on the other people, a lot of the other people that I've studied, and I've listened to him.
I have a pretty decent idea of his shtick and how it fits into both the conspiracy world and the New Age area, but I'm definitely not an expert on Sitchin.
I was thinking about it because it seems like it's got a lot of thematic similarities to the Nephilim.
The whole thing with just a little primer for everybody listening and all that.
Zachariah Sitchin was this guy who basically taught himself ancient Sanskrit and said that he translated these ancient...
The Sumerian, yeah.
These ancient stone tablets.
And he said they tell this story about a planet called Nibiru, which is in our solar system, but is in a really eccentric orbit.
10,000 years or whatever.
It comes close to the Earth.
And the Anunnaki came here from Nibiru because they needed gold.
Because they needed the gold to repair their atmosphere.
It doesn't...
It makes it...
It's not so much that I'm remembering it weirdly.
It's just it makes no fucking sense at all.
So there's no way...
It isn't really that weird.
Yeah. So they said that in order to...
In order to do this, they didn't want to mine gold themselves, so they took these creatures and they created hybrids of them, and we're the hybrids of these guys.
The whole thing came from him translating Anunnaki to mean they came from the sky or something like that.
Which is not the...
Nobody that has actually studied Sumerian believes that that's...
Actually, what it means.
And there's no usage of that word meaning that.
But he connected that to the Nephilim, which actually means fallen.
That part is correct.
Nephilim does mean fallen.
Yeah, that was the part I was getting at because it seems like thematically there's a lot of similarities there.
Of people coming down from the heavens and creating hybrids.
Yeah, he uses that to back up the story of the Nephilim.
And as wacky as what you just said sounds, my only correction is that they were clay tablets, not stone tablets.
Well, darn it, there goes my whole theory.
You know your building structure, dickhead!
Come on!
What are we even doing here?
Otherwise, yeah, you pretty much nailed it.
Yeah. Yeah, it's like Jake Shields claiming that some Japanese scholars think the Tengu ancient demons are actually Jews.
And it's like, no, they don't.
Why the fuck are you lying?
Oh, I know why you're lying.
Because you're just a huge anti-Semite.
And you always want to make any evil entity in any culture a Jew.
Because that's all you do.
But yeah, you see that all the time, and it's a big thing in the Ancient Aliens thing, is that any story from the past is true.
They just, the dum-dums of the past didn't understand what they were looking at.
They saw a rocket ship and said, oh, that's a dragon!
Yeah, exactly.
And then, again, like what Haley was saying before with all the racism, it's deeply rooted in there, because even before the modern...
Ancient alien movement.
There was all this stuff like, you hear about Greater Zimbabwe, it was this big, huge empire down in Africa, and these people, these archaeologists were digging up remains from the society, and they're like, there was no possible way a bunch of, you know, racial slur here could have possibly built this civilization.
White people must have come down here thousands of years ago and then got wiped out by the mongrels.
Yeah, when I was at that QAnon crypto UFO conference a couple weeks ago, which listeners can go listen to, there was that ancient aliens guy there, Mike Barra,
and Carrie Cassidy, who is kind of in the conspiracy world, Project Camelot is her shtick, and a few other...
Great-granddaughter of fucking Eisenhower was there, and she's, like, a UFO person.
But anyway.
Yeah, she's really cute-filled.
Yeah. And they were, like, talking about the, like, alien races, and it was so incredibly just, like, again, you fucking stretch the surface and you can see the racism.
It's just, like, talking about, like, Aryan superior races and, like, the The alien races coming across the border are like the mixed alien races.
It was just like...
One of the ultimate good guy alien races is literally called the Nordics.
I mean, how on the nose can you get?
Which are the Pleiadians, who are, as I have put out many times on social media, the Pleiadians are the space Nazis.
They're only the good guys if you're a Nazi.
But they hung out with Eisenhower.
So I guess that's how the great-granddaughter got into this, because, you know, she met Valiant Thor, who was like, let me tell you about your ancestor.
Oh, God.
Yeah, the projection of the crucifixion.
That's a fun little part.
Wait, repeat that?
Yeah, Valiant Thor, part of...
Actually, I'm not sure if it was Valiant Thor, but the Pleiadians apparently showed Eisenhower a holographic projection of the crucifixion of Jesus.
It probably was Valiant Thor because he was the one who was actually working directly with Eisenhower.
That's awesome.
Is his granddaughter a believer in that one?
I didn't get her full opinions.
I think she is.
I think I have heard her brought up because of this conspiracy podcast I was listening to.
I think they did talk about her while they were talking about all the Valiant Thor stuff.
I can never remember the name of the guy who actually claimed he was Valiant Thor.
Thor Valiant?
I don't know.
Yes, that's it.
He just flipped his name.
Yeah, he just flipped his name.
You mean the guy that goes by Val Thor on Twitter?
I can't remember his name.
I know who you're talking about, but I mean the guy who wrote the books about Valiant Thor and claimed he actually was Valiant Thor in interviews.
Well, the guy who wrote the main book, and I'm blanking on his name at the moment, he claimed to have met Valiant Thor.
But not that he was Valiant Thor.
It's one of those things where it's all mixed up.
He wrote the books and he said he met Valiant Thor, but then he would do interviews saying he was Valiant Thor at the same time.
So he was trying to work both ends of that particular grift.
Oh, I do remember something of him implying that he was.
Yeah, now that I think about it, I'm trying to...
I don't even remember where I put him in my library.
Oh, dear God, he's in the library.
I am horrible with names, so I have to check my library to, like...
Remember people's names half the time.
I came up with David Hatcher Childress.
Are many people contesting for the mantle of Valiant Thor?
Is this like JFK Jr. in QAnon?
It's not really that popular, but there is the one guy who claims to be it, who also claims to be all sorts of other things, apparently, whose name I also can't remember because I'm horrible with names.
Yeah, I was trying to look it up myself, and I came upon, apparently, Valiant Thor was an American Horror Story.
So that just kind of throws a monkey wrench into the whole thing.
Was that Lady Gaga's season?
I don't know.
I just looked at the page and said, oh, this isn't what I'm looking for, and moved on.
Yeah. Oh, boy.
So...
So, I have to ask more about the Nephilim in the sense that where does this fall into the whole Cain and Abel bloodline kind of stuff?
Because the mixed breeding and that sort of thing.
How does that fit into the biblical narrative?
Really depends on who you ask.
But... Yeah, a problem with that is when people talk about the Bible, they think there's just one.
Oh, I know.
There's a million Bibles and there's a million interpretations, but I've heard so much shit.
With that, it's more a matter of interpretation than there being multiple Bibles.
Yeah. But the Nephilim are...
Was Goliath a Nephilim?
I've heard stories like that.
Well... People translate Nephilim to mean giants, and that's how it's translated in the King James.
And therefore, you can kind of call anything that's giant a Nephilim.
Like, when you get into the giants of Kandahar, there's, you know, urban folklore or urban legend kind of thing, although it's...
Totally not urban, but I hate that term, but there's no other good term for that.
They see these giants in Afghanistan, and one of them runs a spear through a soldier, and it's like, because they're giants, automatically they're the Nephilim, because the Nephilim are the giants.
So now, you know, next thing you know, Steve Quayle is on Coast to Coast talking about how...
The military's proved that there's Nephilim.
Yes. I have Jehovah's Witness family, unfortunately.
I was raised as a child Jehovah's Witness, and Nephilim conspiracies are incredibly common amongst them.
I've come to notice.
They definitely do believe there's descendants of Nephilim, or at least in my...
People that I've met within the Jehovah's Witness scene definitely believe that, like, there's still descendants of Nephilim around, and, like, that's the reason people are so tall sometimes.
And it's like, Uncle Grandma, it's time to put you to bed.
Jesus Christ.
That is really common, but it's completely against the actual Bible.
Because the actual Bible specifically says that the flood was to get rid of all of these abominations and that the flood killed every breathing thing on earth that wasn't in the ark.
So it very specifically says that the Nephilim were all killed off.
Yeah, I remember just reading, they said that the...
Yeah, they talk about the Nephilim in the past tense, and then they describe them as being heroes of the past.
Jehovah's Witnesses have all kinds of kooky beliefs about side mainstream shit.
But yeah.
There's been a real...
A lot of people have been going on about giants lately.
I've seen people posting obvious AI images that look like they were taken into the 1940s of a bunch of guys, and one of them is like...
Nine feet tall.
And they're like, giants used to live among us, but they were wiped out in World War II.
Oh, yeah.
The Smithsonian's hiding the 12-foot-tall statues of the giants.
They were talking about that at the conference I went to.
They were like, this was their controversial...
It was Carrie Cassidy.
She was like, I'm just going to say I don't agree with Trump on everything.
I have left-wing point of views.
I think that him and Elon need to open up the Smithsonian.
And it's like, oh, here's the lefty speaking right now.
Yeah. My left-wing view is release the Giants.
That's my hyper-lib thought of the day.
I mean, that makes sense in the context of QAnon because they are so binary that everything on earth can be divided down into Republican and Democrat.
So if you're going against Trump on something, then it must be a Democratic belief whether or not any living Democrat has ever said that in life.
Dualism in action.
That's the thing.
We need to go for the crank vote.
We're way deficient on the crank vote right now in America.
And you got Dan Scavino and the Republicans working really hard to make sure they're keeping all the cranks on their side of the aisle in the elections.
And we need to turn that shit around.
The only problem is that right now...
There's not a lot of fun stuff like Nephilim and the pyramids.
It's all just proving some group of people are secretly Jewish so you can hate them more.
It's like the crank vote and the anti-Semite vote are becoming almost a perfect circle on the then diagram at this point.
Yeah, we need whoever runs in 2028 needs to get someone to run comms and drop hints that Universal Healthcare is right around the corner or something.
So, circling back a little bit there, the idea of the Nephilim as fallen warriors or warriors of the past is actually what comes from Ezekiel, because there's a passage which can either,
because there's no vowels in any of this, so the huge problem with Hebrew and why we have so many of these Problems where you can't really necessarily say exactly what they're saying.
Because there's multiple meanings.
The passage can either be taken as Gaborim Nephilim, which would be fallen warriors, or as Gaborim Nephilim, which would mean Nephilim warriors, if you were considering the Nephilim to be a species.
but
I would think that it actually, if you read the full text, it really just sounds like fallen warriors.
So, dead people.
So, if you take the easiest approach to the Bible without all of the extra lore thrown in, there really is only one mention of the Nephilim where you could say that they're,
okay, this is the Nephilim and then these other...
The appearances of the word have nothing to do with them.
But then, of course, you've got all the Book of Enoch stuff where it elaborates on it, saying that they're angels, which is just a possible reading of the original text.
I was actually literally just about to ask you about the Books of Enoch, because I haven't read them myself, but I'm aware of them, and I was wondering if the Nephilim ever come up.
Oh yeah, that's actually where it all comes from, the whole idea of the Nephilim being angels, or the children of angels.
That's one Enoch, which is the one that's been found in Ethiopia, and bits of it have been discovered in the Dead Sea Scrolls.
Specifically, the second part of it, which is the Book of the Watchers.
It's a few different titles, but if you look for Watchers, and this is one Enoch, or the first Book of Enoch, there's three different ones.
Yeah. That's the main one.
I'd say for people not familiar with them, these are these books that are...
They're referred to as apocryphal, which means they're not officially part of the Bible or anything.
And they were supposedly written by, however you want to pronounce it, Enoch, Enoch, who was like, I'm trying to remember exactly, he was like Noah's great-grandfather or something like that.
Correct. Yeah.
And it gets into severe, excruciating detail about angels and stuff.
And a lot of what people believe about angels today comes from those books.
Yeah, specifically the idea of the angels coming down, mating with the human females, and then creating what are the Nephilim.
If you get into the New Age stuff, a lot of them will confuse Nephilim because Nephilim means fallen, and they'll associate that with both the fallen angels and the children of them.
So there's a lot of...
Gray area.
Yeah, the problem is that most of the stuff that people are reading are translations of translations of translations.
Yeah, we don't even know what the original language was.
So God knows what they were talking about 5,000 years ago.
Literally, God knows.
Well, the...
The Book of Enoch is a little bit more straightforward to read as far as the angel story, where it's hard to figure out what exactly could be said is in the actual story of Genesis.
But just a minor point, apocryphal to send away, but the Book of Enoch was never considered really canonical as far as we know.
It was just another, more of like a midrash in the Talmudic view.
It was an important book, but it wasn't.
The only place where we've ever known it to be considered part of canon would be in Ethiopia.
Ethiopia, where they have the Ark of the Covenant.
Allegedly, yeah.
Yes. Oh, God.
I saw the Ark of the Covenant all over my timeline for the past, like, week.
It's just, ah, they found it!
It's happening!
New York Post was, like, simultaneously doing Pyramid shit and Ark of the Covenant shit, and, like, linking the Ark, like, also check out this!
Like, it was like a twofer coming from New York Post.
And, yeah.
I didn't see any of this.
What were they saying about the Ark?
I didn't check into that yet because I figured we would eventually do an episode on that and I was like, I'm digging into these articles.
I'm just going to look at the pyramid shit.
We'll just watch Raiders of the Lost Ark and fill in the blanks.
Yeah. Okay, question for Quack's Nephilim question.
A lot of the timeline that was talking pyramids, that was talking Nephilim, was saying that Basically, you know, it's like some people are saying like Nikola Tesla tech is down there.
Other people are saying alien tech.
Then there's people saying specifically Nephilim tech is down there.
What are we talking?
What is Nephilim tech?
What you're doing here is you're listening to the blind man that...
That felt the elephant's trunk and then you're listening to the blind man that felt the elephant's foot and then you're listening to the blind man that felt the elephant's tail because they're all basically telling the same story.
The real religious people will say that they're angels and then it's the Nephilim who came down but then that's interchangeable with the aliens who came down.
And they're all kind of basically interconnected.
Tesla, of course, Tesla claimed that he was from Venus, oddly enough.
And so he's pretty beloved by this crowd who actually now don't believe that he was from Venus.
I love the stories that they go through to update this to get it to line up with their current shtick.
No, yeah, there was Tesla posters all over this QAnon crypto UFO conference.
They also had this medbed scam going on where they were directing people to this medbed place.
Those two things directly connect because a lot of the medbed lore came out of George Van Tassel and his Integratron and the idea of healing through We should go there.
It's down near Joshua Tree, California.
Okay. The Integratron.
It's a sound bath.
I'm sorry, Quacks.
Go ahead.
No, we should.
Anyway, he got that from Tesla's dead spirit.
Oh, sick.
Yeah, I think that's one thing that brings together conspiracy theorists of all stripes is Nikola Tesla.
They just love cramming him in somewhere.
Oh yeah.
He's totally the darling of the whole group.
It concerns me because that means that Elon's going to...
I mean, you already see it a little bit.
Some of these freaks...
That's a huge part of why the New Age...
Conspiracy theory people really love Elon because they think that he's somehow connected to the spirit of Nikola Tesla.
Some people even think that he's actually the reincarnation of Nikola Tesla.
Right, it's not just a coincidence that he owns the company.
Did that answer your question basically?
Okay. You can answer it however you want.
I'm just here to hear what you have to say since you're the expert.
What is your deal?
What are you studying mostly?
That gets right into the core of it.
The New Age.
The intersection of the New Age and conspiracism.
Bitchin'. So...
Everything from theosophy, flying saucers, ancient aliens.
That's why I should be paying more attention to the pseudo-archaeology, because Atlantis comes into all that all throughout.
In a way, I'm sort of the weirdness specialist, but particularly the New Age.
Occult conspiracism.
Interesting. So what do you think of the rise of Kennedy?
Which one?
The one that's alive?
This is why I don't get on I have completely forsaken Twitter and I don't even look at Blue Sky half of the time because I just can't fathom that we have a guy that suffered from a literal brain worm in charge of the Department of Health.
It makes me want to just dig a hole and hide.
I keep waiting for him to make his announcement that schools will now be provided roadkill bear for lunches.
Yeah, the roadkill to school lunch program.
Save money.
Yeah, not even farm to table, road to table.
Have you seen all of Ancient Aliens?
Uh, no.
I've seen most of it, but I have not seen all of it.
Yeah, there's like 15 seasons, so it's a lot of watching if you're dedicated.
Oh, no, it's more like, what is it, like 31, I think?
Well, yeah, because the seasons are only like 10 episodes long, so I keep mentally combining them together.
Like, I just looked that up at some point for like a week ago.
Yeah, 21 seasons, according to Wikipedia.
Oh, is it only 21?
No, I guess.
268 episodes.
How many fucking times can you just be asking questions like, what if?
And a lot of it, like, one reason why I don't watch it nearly as much now is that they, obviously with that many episodes, they start retreading a lot.
So they'll bring up the same topic like 10 times in 5 episodes.
And after a while, it's like, okay, I feel like I'm just watching the same episode, but they just remixed it.
The Book of Enoch is one of those things that they have to bring up every other episode.
It says the production company for Ancient Aliens is Prometheus Entertainment.
And honestly, I was thinking of that movie.
I've only seen it like once.
But it's kind of that, right?
It's kind of like buff white guy came and created civilization.
Isn't that kind of the plot?
Oh, you mean the Greek myth of Prometheus.
I thought you meant the alien.
I do.
I mean, that was the opener, wasn't it?
I only saw it once.
I could be misremembering.
Oh. Well, I mean, the actual legend of Prometheus is, yeah, that he created man, and then he saw them freezing to death in the winter, so he stole fire from out Olympus and brought it down to them.
And then, like, a while later, Zeus starts paying attention to humans again, and suddenly notices they have cities and everything.
And he's like, What the fuck, Prometheus?
What are you doing?
And chains him to a cliff where an eagle eats his liver every single day.
Yeah, but the movie Prometheus, it does start off with an ancient alien seeding scene.
Oh, you were talking about the alien thing.
I'm sorry, I went off on a tangent there.
I don't want to hear both.
I forgot about that.
They had this whole pan-spermia thing going on in Prometheus.
And that totally slipped my mind.
Thank you.
I wasn't a fan.
I mean, I was a fan.
I just, you know.
Yeah, I went to see that in the theaters and walked out at some point.
I was just like, you know what?
I looked at the girl I was with and I was like, I don't really want to watch this.
One thing that I think where the movie really lost me was it was still in the first act and these two guys, like, while they're exploring the cave, two guys are like, screw it.
Let's go back to the ship for, like, no reason at all.
And they get lost.
And one of the guys is the guy who's fucking mapping the cave.
I'm like, how did he get lost?
He literally made the map.
So I was like, okay, the script writer was just throwing darts at a board and writing down what happened.
Wait, someone got lost in a cave that they mapped out.
Was it Nutty Putty Cave?
Okay, one of the experts in Ancient Aliens is the guy that wrote Chariot of the Gods, and I thought that was really funny.
I don't know if there's anything...
If you want to get into Nazi connections, Fondanikin is...
The guy that Ghost wrote his first book was a Nazi newspaper writer.
The original pressing of his first book was put out by somebody who was publishing books for the SS.
Wilhelm Uderman.
Von Daniken comes up a lot on there because Zoukalos, the guy everyone knows for the hair, he's basically Von Daniken's protege.
Von Daniken and Chariots of the Gods basically started the whole modern ancient aliens movement.
Zachary Sitchin was before that a little bit.
He gets credit for it.
I would really say it was started by George Hunt Williamson.
Well, I mean, what I was getting at is he put him on the map, basically.
He's like the famous of it.
He's kind of like what David Icke is to reptilians, he is to ancient aliens.
Everyone knows about the reptilian-alien theory because of Icke, but yet that stuff had been going for a few decades before he got his hands on it.
Right. It's the same with Von Donegan.
All of that stuff was pretty well mapped out within the flying saucer cult movement in America.
Particularly George Hunt Williamson, who worked at one point for William Dudley Pelle, the aforementioned proto-New Age guy that got locked up for his pro-Nazi seditious activities.
So, like I said, Nazis all the way down.
People think I'm crazy for saying that, but you are so right.
Yeah, I mean, that's really, if you want to talk about what I study, it's occult Nazis.
And I'm not talking about, you know, the Third Reich.
I specialize in American Nazis.
Yes. Yeah, same.
High five.
I hate Illinois Nazis.
Nice to meet you.
We've never met.
Likewise. So do we have any other Nephilim-based questions, comments, queries?
I'm a blooper.
I'm pilled.
Yeah. Our Nephilim plate has been filled.
We are contented.
My cup runneth over.
The only cup that's going to be running over is for a while now.
Oh, boy.
I wanted to thank Quacks for doing this because I just love you, man.
You always do good work.
Thank you.
Give us an air of academia, which is always helpful.
Oh, the engineer of credibility that we tread on.
Yeah, I would never consider myself academic.
I'm just somebody who's been diving into it for a long time.
It's more of a persistence.
People are like, oh, you're such a great researcher.
No, I'm just really persistent.
I keep digging and digging and digging and connecting things together.
It's like my own form of conspiracy theorism, except...
I'm up there with a red string map.
I was going to say, you got the Charlie Day meme where he's...
Exactly. Yeah, this is the whole world.
We all have the sickness and the brain.
Yup. And we are down with it.
Down with the sickness.
Zing, zing.
You should know how to follow you if you're interested in that and all that.
Good luck.
Yeah, I'm Quacks Anonymous on everything.
I'm Quacks Anonymous on Blue Sky.
I'm Quacks Anonymous on Twitter, although I have pretty much abandoned that platform.
I'm Quacks Anonymous on Patreon.
And I'm even Quacks Anonymous on Mastodon, but I've kind of given up that too, and I don't remember even what server I'm on.
Or instance I'm on.
The one I was on went under.
So, thanks to Quacks for being here.
Thank you all for listening.
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