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March 22, 2025 - Adventures in HellwQrld
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Adventures in HellwQrld Presents: Haley's Trip to GrifterCon!

On this episode Haley reports back from her field trip in Florida where she went to a grifter convention that had GOP elected officials hanging out with the scammers and con artists. So just another day at the office for those monsters. Get bonus content on PatreonSupport this show http://supporter.acast.com/hellwqrld. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Adventures in Hellworld podcast talks in-depth about QAnon.
While it's meant to be comedic informative, sometimes we have to get into things like child abuse and violence against people.
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Hello, everybody.
I am Mike Raines, a.k.a.
Poker and Politics, and welcome to another episode of Adventures in Hellworld.
This week, I am joined by Chaley, a.k.a.
Haley, a.k.a.
Arizona Rightwatch, who went on an exciting adventure.
That's what this podcast is going to be about.
Haley, the adventure.
Start telling us about it.
Hello, everybody.
I am back from Florida, where I saw a tornado right before I left.
And you saw the rocket explode.
Oh, my God.
Okay, so we do have to talk about that, because that was the greatest.
First, I thought I was going to die, and then I realized what was happening, and I couldn't believe how lucky I got to see that.
Lucky, you know, it is, you know, however you want to say it.
Nobody died.
It's just an incredible amount of waste and pollution.
But for those of you who didn't see it, Elon's latest rocket exploded.
And I was on...
This event happened in Cape Canaveral, Florida, which is known as the Space Coast.
They launched a lot of the rockets there.
The Blue Origin shit is there.
The Kennedy Space Center.
Which I went to was there.
So you get a lot of space energy, but also a lot of conspiratorial space stuff like this event.
So it didn't launch from Florida.
I think it launched from like Boca Raton, but it like peaked off the coast of Cape Canaveral.
A lot of the news stories even mention Cape Canaveral.
Basically exploded right before my eyes.
I was on the beach walking.
I was walking on a beach called Peacock Beach and I was waiting for the sun to go down because there's a lighthouse in the distance and I wanted to see it turn on.
And as soon as it turned on, I started heading back and then a big flash came before my eyes and a bunch of people started freaking out on the beach.
And then when it actually kind of exploded and started to scatter over the Bahamas, which is like totally visible over the sea, over the ocean, the way that it kind of broke apart, I immediately was like, that's SpaceX.
That's a SpaceX.
And I got off the beach and was confirmed in my theory.
So yeah, I got to see it explode.
I thought I was going to die when it like flashed the whole sky, but then I lived.
That has to be really magical.
You're like, oh shit, that's it.
I'm getting the check.
And you're like, ah, no, it's just Elon blowing up another rocket.
Oh, that scam.
That silly boy who doesn't know how to make rockets.
That was my first real day there because I got in super late and that was my first day.
So I was like, wow, what a trip this is going to be.
And it was.
So this was, from what you've been telling me, Basically a massive crypto scam convention.
And so get into the XRP and all that kind of nonsense.
And you said there's a compare and contrast between the actual XRP people and the QAnon, the lunatic XRP people.
Yeah, because XRP is like a legit crypto coin, as legit as crypto coins can be, I guess.
It was created by Ripple, or it's affiliated with Ripple.
I think there's some differences between XRP and normal cryptocurrency.
They say it was pre-mined.
I'm not an expert in cryptocurrency.
I kind of went to this QAnon conference that my lawmakers are going to, and it's aliens, let's check it out.
But throughout the whole thing, there's XRP shit everywhere.
It was very XRP heavy.
The telegram that they push you to, How many of them called it XRP and how many of them called it Ripple?
basically everybody called it XRP only one guy really talked about Ripple and it was him bragging that he had met the CEO of Ripple yeah I I I
This was interesting because I don't know what it is in particular.
It's cheaper.
It's cheaper.
XRP is cheaper to buy into.
But Trump did mention it in his recent announcement.
Yeah, in the strategic crypto reserve thing, he did mention XRP as being one of the things that was going to get it.
Yeah, they're very excited about that.
Their theories of XRP are, like, weaved into the QAnon, like, mythos and also, like, Nasara stuff, which we cannot get into in this episode again, like, at length.
You have to listen to the episode where we talked about it because that would take up so much time.
But, um, basically, like, the host of the event, Mel Carmine, is openly telling people in the opening speech and the opening video that...
NASARA is here, and the proof is DOGE, the Department of Government Efficiency.
And XRP will be the bus that brings everybody prosperity funds.
Oh, thank God.
Yeah. So it's not just people giving investment advice.
It's people basically telling you, like...
Within this belief system that they're in that you need this to do things in the future.
The money is all going to become crypto.
It'll all go into XRP.
You have to buy now.
Invest now.
You will be rich later.
Trust me, bro.
Right. Your paper money is going to be worthless.
You need to buy our digital money right now or you're fucked.
It wasn't only XRP being pushed, but that was definitely the main one because Mel Carmine seems to be an XRP scammer, which I'll get into later.
But there was also, like, Iraqi Dinar got mentioned because, like, we're still talking about it getting...
You know, part of the, like, Nasara stuff is that the revalue of currency will happen.
It was even on the...
They were talking how Iraqi dinar would be revalued, and it's like, wow, this is some vintage shit in here.
Yeah. And there was guys in the exhibitor hall selling Like, what they claimed were gold coins and silver bars and, you know, different types of money.
I asked them, like, can I hold the silver bar?
And they looked at me like I was, they were, like, so annoyed.
But they let me do it.
And then Mark Fincham, in his opening speech, he did talk about XRP and said he was, like, invested in it.
And encouraged people to invest in it, but he was, like, actually kind of the reasonable voice as far as, like, don't put all your funds into it.
He said only put a third of your funds into XRP.
The other third should go into, like, gold investments, and the other third should be traditional.
If I want to be traditionally poor, oh my god.
What a bold fucking decision.
Oh my god.
To actually have the nerve to just ask for one third of our fucking money to be in traditional things.
Oh shit.
But Fincham was holding in his opening speech this stack of what looked like money but it was gold tinged.
And it's what they call Goldbacks, which is not...
I don't like saying it because it sounds like a slur.
Go back where you came from, you filthy Goldback!
Yeah, it's like when South Park did the Goobacks episode.
I'm just like, I don't like this.
But I don't even know how to explain this.
They claim it contains one one-thousandth of a troy ounce of 24-karat gold.
Yeah. I don't know how...
They told me, they're like, go on TikTok and watch people burn our money and you'll see that it's real gold.
That was how they sold it to me.
Oh, God.
So, for those of you who have not seen the Goldbacks, I hope that Hayley posted on our social media, because the gold, the $1 Goldback is got, like, a trad wife with a guitar.
I'm sure that the AI just forgot to generate the six Aryan children that were supposed to be, like, traipsing about at her feet while she was playing her guitar.
But then the other...
Goldbacks have more women.
They're all women-based.
It's very weird that this aggressively misogynistic, aggressively women-hating community of people put sexy women on all of their money.
I would have thought that the highest denomination goldback would have been Donald Trump.
Donald Trump breaking Barack Obama's neck with his bare hands would have been the $100 goldback or something.
Just whatever bizarre mythology.
Donald Trump flipping the switch to electrocute Hillary Clinton.
Something. Something that would have been obviously what they were going for.
But no.
The 50 Goldback, which is the biggest one they have, is a World War II-era fighter pilot who happens to be a woman flying a plane.
Apparently, we had female pilots in World War II that I didn't know about.
This is the American version of the Night Witches.
If they made a Netflix-style movie about a female pilot in World War II, all these people that are making Goldbacks would be like, this is Big Woke!
Yes! Oh, God.
Oh, man.
That makes me think that we need...
I know there's already been a movie made about the Night Witches, but we need to make a new one because it would break their brains.
Because on the one hand, it would be female pilots would be woke, which is bad.
But on the other hand, it would be Soviet female pilots, which is awesome and based because we love our beloved commie, Russian, Putin, Stalin leaders.
Yes. And so...
Oh, the discourse that that would create in conservative Nazi Twitter would be incredible as they argued over whether or not it was acceptable to watch and jerk off to these women or not.
But yeah, the $25 gold back is like a black Amazon lady on a boat with a crocodile trying to like...
Floating around the boat.
And the thing that's really weird about that one is that the woman is very small in comparison to the background of the Florida swamp area.
I think it's definitely AI because some of the women look generated very weird into the image.
And then some are like big, busty, sexy, fishnet pirate lady.
Yeah, the sexy pirate lady is...
How sexy pirate lady isn't the 50, I don't get it.
Because she's literally what the...
She's what they want.
She's the ridiculous adventure lady who happens to be unbelievably hot and posed very seductively.
And it is...
Yeah. All of the art is very silly.
So funny.
I got one for free.
I did not pay for this.
They gave me this.
I got free.
You talk to people kindly and they're like, here you go, ma'am.
Here's an item.
And I'm like, yes!
So, yeah, I found the $5 goldback by itself where it's not covered by the other ones.
And Jesus Christ, it's Natalie Dormer in pirate gear standing behind a table with a pirate map.
And just, yeah, this is the most ridiculous thing imaginable.
Holy shit.
I will have to send you...
Go ahead.
You know, I was just saying, I'm going to have to send you a photo of Natalie Dormer so you can compare her to the $5 goldback and just be like, wow, they literally just said, the hot chick from Game of Thrones.
Put her on our gold.
I like that if you read the fine print on my goldback, it says, privately issued, not U.S. dollar legal tender.
Is a fucking scam.
Just literally, that's all they had to say.
So, it's funny because there's all these rules about the goldbacks because they are trying to issue them as currency, but you can't do national currency, so they issue state currency, and no state governments have adopted goldbacks,
obviously. But there are these different state variations, and they basically have this...
The website has the daily change in how much your goldback is worth, so you check it every day to see how much your money is worth.
There are some businesses that take goldbacks.
The website allows you to see which places take goldbacks in your area.
Oh my god.
Holy shit.
If I actually went to a fucking 7-Eleven and was able to buy my Doritos with fucking funny money, that would be the greatest moment of my life.
I would walk out of there fully in the knowledge that I had just committed a crime.
That I just literally got away with crime.
All the ones in my area that accepted goldbacks were shady-looking we-buy-gold shops and wellness centers, so you just know that it's like...
Literally crime.
Just crime-based businesses that are willing to engage in crimes with their fellow crimeologists.
Yeah, so Mark Fincham was bragging that he is an official sponsor of Goldback at the event, even though there's no Arizona Goldbacks, so I don't know what that's about.
I didn't find him reporting Goldbacks in his finances, so hey, legit journalist, maybe check that out.
But what else did...
Honestly, we should just talk about the exhibitor hall a bit, because most of these people would end up speaking.
That day, anyway.
Yeah. They had, like, woo-woo health people.
Obviously, there was, like, a psychic who, you know, did, like, energy kind of stuff and just very, like, you would find it at a local coffee shop and not know which direction they swung, but she's at this QAnon event,
so that should explain that.
Yeah. There was a guy from Ancient Aliens, Mike Barra, selling his book about how aliens are responsible for the assassination of JFK.
That sounds like Behold a Pale Horse, where basically Eisenhower was working with the aliens, and then Kennedy got into office, and Kennedy was kind of like, hey, I'm...
Thinking maybe I should just let everybody know about these aliens.
And then the aliens immediately turned to Lyndon Johnson and were like, kill this man.
And Lyndon Johnson was like, you got it, boss.
You got it, my alien overlords.
That you mention Eisenhower.
Oh, yeah.
Because there was a woman there, and it seems to check out that she is the great-granddaughter of President Eisenhower.
Her name is Laura Eisenhower.
She does shows occasionally, like, as interviewed as the great-granddaughter of Eisenhower, but, like, a lot of UFO shit.
She's super UFO-pilled.
So, yeah, really cool.
So we have, like, her, and then a guy who claims to be JFK Jr., and then a bunch of followers of the guy who was waiting for the return of JFK.
There was a guy in there who pretends to be the real creator of the Matrix.
Yeah. But yeah, the the ancient aliens guy was interesting because he you know He was, like,
mansplaining aliens to some of the lady alien disclosure people.
And it's, like, it was so extra irritating because it's, like, the guy's already being rude and mansplaining.
Right, and it's all a LARP.
It's mansplaining the Pladeans and the Greys.
You're mansplaining imagination.
He was literally arguing with one of the alien disclosure ladies because she was talking about how much gold would be galactically transferred from Earth.
And he's arguing the weight of gold that could be reasonably transferred off-world.
And it's like, why are we arguing about this?
It's all fake!
Yeah, it's like reading all the arguments in the ancient times at the start of Christianity and you just look at it and you're like, they're making this up!
None of this is real!
Maybe there was a guy named Jesus, maybe that guy got crucified, that's real!
All the mythology you're making around that guy is bullshit and people are just literally life and death arguments over this shit you are creating out of whole cloth.
It's all fake.
I know.
There was this really funny moment when Carrie Cassidy, who's a pretty long-time figure in the UFO slash conspiracy world, she runs Project Camelot, which you said you knew about.
Yes. Explain it.
Yeah, so Project Camelot is basically...
Let's explain it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, yes.
I immediately begin reading my prepared paragraph of commentary and then shut right back up and let Rob Haley Reiner handle the heavy lifting of actually doing the pod because it's her show.
I'm just living in it.
Even though I call myself the co-host and do the intros.
But Project Camelot is pretty much...
It's ancient aliens and all that kind of nonsense in a podcast form.
Like, oh god.
So they had on this one guy who claimed to be a super soldier who was trained at a young age to do intergalactic battles with demons and other entities.
They plug you into the Matrix and you get superpowers and you beat up everybody.
It's all kinds of performative LARPing nonsense for...
People in the ancient aliens community.
Whatever power level you want to give yourself.
If you want to be the main character and you fought the aliens on Rigel 7 or whatever, you can do that.
Or if you just want to be an honest observer who understands how the base on the dark side of the moon works and how the humanity is using our stolen technology to build jump gates, you can do that too.
Again, this is all make-believe.
It's all a fantasy.
And whatever part you want to assign yourself into this play, you can do it.
I understand what collaborative writing and storytelling is.
That's what this is.
It's just collaborative storytelling nonsense that people have created.
Sorry, I was chewing my apple.
I know where I rate on the scale of things that are important, and the apple is way higher than me.
But yeah.
I know everybody at the event was like, I have the info.
I have the disclosures.
I'm getting the secret intel.
I have these whistleblowers telling me about all the secret space programs that are secretly happening.
But she was like...
She kept acting like she was the controversial speaker.
She's like, I don't align with Trump on everything.
I'm not right-wing on everything.
And then she would start talking about how I think he needs to release the...
Nine-foot giants that the Smithsonian are hiding.
Like, whoa, we got a real lefty over here.
You know?
Yeah, I don't side with Trump on everything.
I think he's really wrong about hiding the anti-grav technology.
Or at least the grav drives, Trump, and then you'll get my vote.
Yeah, her and Laura Eisenhower seem to...
They like Elon.
Everybody likes Elon at this event.
They think he...
You know, because they're really into Nikola Tesla.
Oh, everyone's obsessed with Tesla.
I mean, this is the whole...
That's probably why Elon even bought the company.
It's just because they all think that Tesla is more than just a good inventor guy.
They think he unlocked the secrets of the universe.
Yeah, they seem to have similar theories about Elon.
They essentially think that all his, like, all the SpaceX, like, they like him.
They said they like him, and they think he's trying to do good, and they like that he's working with Trump.
But they also think that, like, the Tesla technology and SpaceX technology is hiding the real technology that is far more advanced to kind of, like, dupe the general public into thinking that Tesla and SpaceX is,
like... Where we're at in terms of space travel and car technology, when really we already have bases on Saturn and Mars, and the tech for cars is actually far more advanced.
So Elon's hiding the real tech, but also he's good for some reason.
And also they were talking about how they took him out a while ago, and the current Elon is a clone.
Of course.
You gotta build.
You gotta build that mythos.
Things can't just be the way they are.
They gotta be bigger, bolder, nuttier, dumber.
Oh my god, of course we have to have Elon being a clone.
Elon's a clone.
That's what I was heard at an event where my elected officials are at.
I just have to keep saying that because it's like, why am I at this?
Oh yeah, my politicians are here.
Yes. There was actually a guy there.
I missed it, so I didn't see it with my two eyeballs.
But he did appear on the website.
He was at the first event.
This was the second one of these.
It's called the Quantum Summit.
Yes. But this was the second one.
And the first one, this General Tata.
What's his first name again?
It's like Andrew.
Andrew Tata, the general.
Is that correct?
I have no idea.
I was being a scene partner.
I was just playing along.
Yeah, Anthony.
Anthony, not Andrew.
Okay, so Anthony Tata is a retired general who has worked in politics.
He's worked in behind-the-scenes kind of stuff.
Defense stuff.
He was recently nominated by Trump last month for a senior Pentagon position.
He's had some, like, controversial, like, racist statements about Obama in the past, but he's got this.
Yeah. That's wild to me.
Like, it's, like, two state elected officials is something, sure, but, like, a guy that's gonna work in the Pentagon?
Yikes. So, yeah.
Also, okay, so with the Carrie Cassidy stuff, like, you said that Knowledge Fight sometimes, like, does Project Camelot shit?
Yes. I was digging through Project Camelot, and, like, there's a lot of Adrenochrome stuff I noticed, aliens.
She's definitely interviewed David Icke before.
Oh, yeah.
Which, like...
You know, I have to talk to local media people sometimes, and a lot of them don't understand why this event is, like, right-wing, because they don't understand QAnon, for one thing.
But when you hear them talk about aliens, it's, like, it's not very subtle.
Carrie Cassidy was talking about how, like, we're all...
We all have alien essence, but the ones coming across the border are a hybrid gray group.
You can feel the tinged racism, even if you don't understand where some of this rhetoric is coming from, because David Icke is explicitly anti-Semitic.
Some of this mixed-race alien rhetoric comes from an old occultist, William Dudley Pelley, who was literally an American Nazi.
So it's just like, when you hear some of the, like, there's these superior Nordic Aryan aliens and aliens coming across the border that are...
Mixed-race greys.
It's like, okay, Nazis, calm down.
You know?
Yeah. What is some stuff that's been covered on Modified as far as Project Camelot?
They kind of were getting out of Project Camelot when I started listening to it because...
It was mostly the guy I told you about who was basically ripping off the plot of Avatar in order to pretend that he was an intergalactic super soldier.
And they did a bunch of stuff like that, and it was that genre.
But basically, she had kind of gone to this kind of place where...
Her content wasn't easily as accessible to them as it normally was.
And also, she was kind of rehashing the same things that Alex was doing.
She was no longer that glorious respite of comic relief.
To get away from Alex Jones ranting about the globalists and bringing Nick Fuentes on to have a little chat.
Now me and Nick don't see eye to eye on everything, but we agree on a lot.
So I'm going to have Nick on and we're going to talk and just all that shit.
And it's basically Nick just trying to get as much Nazi stuff across as Alex will let him before they then just agree to disagree on that front and then get back to the good stuff.
So I just know that...
Project Camelot was just, if you wanted kook stuff, we're going to give you kook stuff.
It was an aggressive yes and.
It was kind of like the proto-QAnon in the sense where all conspiracy theories are valid.
We will accept anyone who has anything to say.
No conspiracy theory to dumb, not to platform.
So if you want to talk Flat Earth, we're flirting.
You want to talk about chemtrails, we're chemtrailing.
Whatever you want to do, Carrie is going to just yes and the shit out of you and just nod along and let you speak your piece and plug your book or whatever it is you're going to do.
And we can talk about the moon landing being faked and the moon having a base on the dark side.
We can do both.
Just because our opinions contradict doesn't mean that we can't agree and grift together.
So that was how I knew it.
But I kind of missed out on like peak knowledge fight reporting on Project Camelot because various things like the platform she was using and also her audience who she was like reaching out to.
Fascinating. Yeah.
She sounds legit.
I think that more politicians should do events with her.
Yeah. If only.
If only we were doing that kind of stuff.
Like, yeah.
So, also in the exhibitor hall, man, there was, like, people obviously hawking, like, Doge stuff, traditional Trump stuff, like,
their psychic services.
There was one lady that was, like, she, all she wanted to do was talk about probiotics.
She talked on stage for half an hour just about how probiotics should be in everything, in cleaning supplies, in put them in your wounds, put it in your mouth, put it in your eyes.
Probiotics will heal the world.
And she had a probiotic stand where she was letting people take sips from the probiotic bottle and then like spit it in this bucket that she had.
I was like, man, this is so not sanitary.
But she did give me some like little individual packets so I could try it, which I don't know why I decided to try the QAnon persons.
I swished it in my mouth.
It was the mouthwash that I used, and I was like, oh my god.
It's terrible.
How do you mess up mouthwash?
Yeah. There was this device.
It was basically a flashlight.
They call it iTeraCare.
And it's like, you're supposed to put the light on wherever hurts and it'll heal all of it.
It'll heal cancer.
It'll heal paralysis.
It actually has, like, an FDA warning in the country where it's from, the Philippines, that says, like, don't use this, and it's also dangerous.
So that was in there.
That's awesome.
I love the idea of that.
I love the idea that, like, the country that we, the country that the inventor comes from just says, do not use this product.
It is actually dangerous.
It will probably fucking kill you.
There was obviously the gold people.
And shirts being sold that said, like, end child sex trafficking now.
And Mel Carmine shirts that just had, like, his face on it with the tiny sunglasses he wears.
And then there was a guy in there.
This is my habit.
I always talk to the artists because I'm an artist and I just, like, how did you get here, sir?
There was an artist in there named Richard Murray.
Old guy, like 70s or 80s, wearing a QAnon Where We Go All sweater.
It has the Where We Go One Where We Go All stitched into the collar also.
Make America Great Again hat.
He's looking miserable in there because there was this lady just talking his head off about the world that exists beyond the mirrors, which she caught me in the bathroom and also similarly.
Started to yap my ear off about that.
And he had this huge circular acrylics block that was spinning.
And the top had a 45 on it.
But if you looked at the internals, it was this very intricate city.
And he calls them space cities.
He drills them with dental tools.
And this particular station was called Magadonia.
Uh-huh.
Zing! Oh, God.
Zing! But, like, he seems...
I went down the rabbit hole on him, and, like, he seems to have been doing, like, legit artistry for, like, sci-fi commercials and shows for, like, 50 years now.
He's been on, like, How Did He Do That?
and, like, talent shows and has pieces in, like, legit science museums.
And, um, he, uh, Eddie Van Halen actually commissioned him to make a Space City guitar for him.
Oh, no.
And it's just, like, this is where he is.
He's hanging out at the QAnon UFO.
It's like, you know, artists have to do, you know, they create whole universes sometimes.
I guess you can't expect all of them to be reasonable.
You can't expect all of them to meet.
It was very funny, though, because he was being very kind to me and the person that I went with.
Yeah. Because I think he was just interested in somebody talking to him about art and not, like, the mirror universe that exists behind the bathroom mirror.
So, that was an interesting interaction.
I don't know.
He had these shirts on his website that were like, don't trust people with these hair colors, and it was like hair colors that like me and my friend had.
Dere vet at når jeg skal ta opp noe vanskeligere på kontoret, så tyer jeg til en limrik.
En limrik.
Han ville bedristen bevara, og måtte finne penger og spare.
Med kuttet ut ark for skriva på bark.
Nå kan han behalde alle karer.
Og dama.
Vi kan ikke skrive ut årsrapporter på bark, Martin.
Nei, men kanskje ikke bark da, men vi må i hvert fall finne noen penger å spare.
Redd papiret.
Bytt til ICE-bedrift.
Bedriftsabonnementet som gir dere mer for pengene.
ICE! Let me eat it.
That's...
Ja, kan du gå ut?
Ikke noen hacking?
Nei. Streaming, scrolling, swiping, alt går fint?
Ja, pappa!
Snapping, binging, tagging.
Kan du gå ut?
Jeg bare res da til nettet for sikkert skylde.
Til Trond og alle dere som har hatt rollen som familiens IT-ansvarlig, vil vi bare si én ting.
Beklager! Når du bytter til Alteboks, blir det færre problemer å fikse, og mindre anerkjennelse å høste.
On Nett.
Altid. Altid Box.
Were you in your camouflage?
Were you wearing anything to hide your power level from these people?
You know, I just kind of dressed normal because I figured the UFO like crypto QAnon event would have like a mixture of like maybe some weirdos, like some hippie weirdos or something.
It was all the usual old MAGA people that you see in QAnon.
A lot of people whose families don't talk to them.
Ronald Gavin appeared on screen.
He appeared because he was doing an event at the same time in Vegas.
And he appeared on Zoom.
He couldn't even be fucking asked to stop eating his fucking grapes while he spoke for 30 minutes.
His camera's appearing not on him.
He's got like a room full of people just watching him speak.
And you just see his hand occasionally reach.
That's kind of like one of Sam's kind of thing is he doesn't put his face on camera.
He does weird shit like that where a lot of the time the camera's just on his shoes or whatever.
It's very weird.
That's his thing.
He's just a guy that's doing the weirdness.
And he kept showing off the fancy suite he was in.
He was like, look at this view.
Him and the host, Mel Carmine, argued about Nasara.
Mel Carmine straight up asked him, he was like, so is Doge Nasara?
And Wano Savin was like, no, no, don't do that.
Do you want to explain Wano Savin a bit to people?
107 is a QAnon grifter who weirdly doesn't have channels that I see very often.
I'm sure he's on Telegram.
I'm sure he's out and about doing his thing.
But he has his own kind of audience and movement outside of what I would consider to be...
Regular mainstream QAnon.
You don't see people like Jordan Sather and Praying Medic and QAnon John and all those kinds of guys hanging out with 107.
I remember QAnon John brought 107 to one of his early big QAnon gatherings and Jordan Sather had a huge pout over it.
He was very upset.
But Juan is a guy that...
He has influence and he has been working with people.
In 2020, in 2022, Juan was part of the network of people that were working to put QAnon nuts in charge.
I'm forgetting the year, but it was 2028 probably.
I mean, probably 2018.
But the whole idea was they wanted QAnon nuts to win Secretary of State jobs in various swing states so that then they could certify the election for Trump no matter what happened.
And I forget if it was 22 or 18, but pretty much all of them lost.
It was the good news.
The good news was that happened.
And I do remember the guy that won the Nevada Secretary of State race, me and his campaign actually had contact.
We actually talked for a little while because I mentioned to them that the guy they were running against was a nut who was tied to 107.
And that is...
Like, a bad thing, because this guy's very obviously QAnon.
And that guy who ended up losing that race, he had said shit like that Nevada hadn't had a clean election in, like, two decades, that George Soros was appointing everybody who was in office and stuff like that.
So they were dealing with a guy who was very comfortable with getting in bed with QAnon.
This was not a, oh, wow, this crazy guy just happened to do a thing.
What can you do?
Yeah. Oh, so it was 2022, because I just looked at my...
The guy who was the contact of the...
Cisco was the name of the guy that won in Vegas.
His... The only non-deleted tweet, because it's on Signal, and the guy has set all our deletes to burn after like two weeks.
So literally the only non-deleted message I have, DM, is me saying, Mike Raines here to the guy.
Every other communique I had with that man is gone, because that's how political campaigns work.
I cannot send you the juicy screenshots of me trying to get information about the net they were running against.
Fincham was part of that group in Arizona.
So this was a wide net had been cast by this group in an effort to take the Secretary of State jobs over.
And I think they won in Indiana, which didn't really matter because Red State nut balls.
So yeah.
So Juan has an audience and popularity.
It's just he's kind of doing his own thing.
One has aggressive main character syndrome, where one is a part of the story, one is a part of the mythos, and that's something that all these other QAnon grifters don't like, because they want Trump to be the center of the story, and they are but mere apostles,
like, kneeling at the feet of the Master, where one of Saven is like, I'm going out saving the world!
I'm a super-secret spy!
I might be JFK Jr.
I'll say anything for attention!
And... So yeah, he's in alternative QAnon world, which, great.
Just great.
Yeah, also, his real name is Wayne Willett.
The 107 thing is a play on...
It's a play on 107, which is, if you take the O out, it's 17, which is a QAnon number.
So yeah.
So, yeah, these are really nice people who definitely don't prey on people's, you know, lives.
Speaking of other alternative QAnon universe people, so he had, like, he had JFK stuff in his room.
He was showing off his suite, and, like, he also was showing off, like, his John McAfee merch and his JFK Q merch and, like, the Matador imagery.
I saw people wearing that matador jacket that he has.
It's like the yellow jacket with Trump as a matador.
There was a lady that had it signed by Trump and a bunch of other people.
She had Mel Carmine sign it during the event.
There was people definitely there that I had seen before with negative 48. There were some people wearing negative 48 merch.
Or they had, like, negative 48 stickers on their laptops.
You want to explain that guy?
Oh, negative 48. Oh, my God.
So negative 48 was a nut who claimed that JFK Jr. or JFK, or both, were going to rise from the grassy knoll in Dallas, Texas, and unveil themselves back to the public at some ill-defined time.
And so you had him and his followers all hanging out in Dealey Plaza for like a month or so, waiting for Kennedy to show up.
And shockingly, he never did.
And he ran this cult.
Karma, friend of the pod, Karma, she's the biggest deep diver into the Negative 48 cult.
She could tell you way more than I am going to tell you.
Negative 48 basically brainwashed all these people and created a cult based around Dematria, which is this old-timey number-letter code thing.
And basically, you just want to...
If you want to smash letters together and make them into the right numbers, you can do it.
The whole point is just have fun with it.
Just make the words say what you want them to say and then pretend that you've got a hit.
That's the goal.
It's the dumbest of all dumb things.
And also negative 40, it's soaking all these people for money because he's not working.
He's just stealing from his cult.
We were getting to that.
We were getting to his chest.
Do you worry?
Oh, Rob never yelled at Sala.
Dad starts crying.
But eventually he was apparently he went to like a Dirk bike course one day and fucked around on the Dirk bike course and got himself killed.
And the Negative 48 community kind of didn't believe it for a long time, and then they had to kind of accept it.
And now he, too, shall rise with the JFKs one day and usher in a thousand years of peace and prosperity.
And last I checked, because I haven't talked to Karma about Negative 48 and the cult in a while, but they had decided to go with the child-to-profit route.
And there was a 13-year-old who was very much into Gematria, who is now allegedly their leader.
I'm sure the adults in the movement are manipulating that child, but that's the current status of the negative 48 cult.
Yeah, I talked to Karma a bit about this event because she was familiar with Mel Carmine, the event host.
Because, yeah, he runs in these circles of the negative 48 people, the 107 people.
The more...
Even more fringe QAnon people, if you can imagine.
Because he's not a good guy.
I'm going to say it early that Mel Carmine doesn't seem like a good guy.
And you know, I feel bad even talking about this guy.
I thought it would be funnier than it was.
There was a guy there that claims to be the real author of The Matrix.
Yeah, we've talked about that.
We've talked about lying Matrix author guy.
Yeah, Tom Alhouse.
He... I almost honestly cried when he spoke because he was very clearly having a severe mental breakdown on stage.
And the people in the audience just, like, cheer it on.
He is...
He essentially, he similarly just sees numbers in the movie that he believes is mocking him for the death of his two sons and the death of his fiancée.
And he thinks that the Matrix movie is basically the deep state mocking him for that and him wanting to hang himself after that.
Yeah. And it was just him crying on stage about this, and it's like, okay, this isn't...
This is a guy having...
I think this guy needs help.
You know?
Yeah. And then it's like, everybody just claps afterwards.
It's like, if you guys want to hear about his fascinating story about how the Wachowski stole from him, talk to him backstage.
And it's like...
I think that guy's going through something.
You know?
So anyway, that was, like, not chill.
It was right before lunch, too.
And I was with someone, and we both were just like, that was a bummer.
You know?
But the politicians here are kind of the reason why I had an excuse to go to this thing.
Mark Fincham, who you mentioned was part of 107's coalition of Secretary of State candidates.
Fincham lost horribly, but he was recently re-elected as a state senator.
He's basically been in and out of office for the last 10 years.
He moved up north to win in a district that he just was...
As soon as he announced it, I'm like, oh, Fincham's back.
That sucks.
He went to the area where our main Oath Keeper chapter has pretty good political ties up there.
It's a pretty radical part of Arizona.
At least electorally.
Fincham, he was part of the 107 Like, coalition, but, like, he's got a long history of being, like, he was a shitty cop before he was a shitty politician.
Like, I think on his, when he got, like, let go from being a cop, it said, like, do not hire again on his, like, report.
Oh, God.
So you know he's not good when even cops are like, yo, this guy's not a good cop.
That's like the Gunther Engelman character on Twitter who got doxed and was like a mall cop in Dallas or something.
Just, yeah.
Yeah. So he's obviously promoted QAnon.
We did a long episode on Fincham once because he shared a video that was so crazy that was just like, we gotta...
Do a whole episode on this.
It talked about Loosh and Trump is a time traveler.
Englewood... I don't remember.
But yeah, there was a lot of that.
Lockwood-Englewood.
But he's part of the Coalition of Western States, which is this group of far-right politicians and militia members along the West.
And it's founded by Matt Shea, who was a representative in Washington who literally got in trouble for domestic terrorism because he was part of the Bundy shit and that occupation of the Wildlife Refuge and another occupation.
So he kept doing these standoffs with the federal government.
So he was stripped of his committees.
And he has this super extreme church where he talks about killing anybody who's not a...
Christian male and shit.
So Fincham's part of that guy's organization.
Lockwood Ingersoll is the name of the author that then got stolen and turned into a movement because a million years ago he created a book called The Baron Trump Collection and now people think it's like a...
Edict is a hint that Barron Trump is a time traveler who fought the deep state 100 years ago and will rise to glory and victory in the future.
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Um...
So Fincham was like, okay, so we had two Arizona lawmakers there.
It was Leo Biasucci, who was at the last QAnon conference in Vegas from Fincham.
And he left.
He did his speech and basically left by the end of the day.
But Fincham was there the whole time.
This was a Fincham party.
He opened both days.
He gave multiple speeches.
He appeared on multiple panels, including ones with the Alien Disclosure people.
He argued with one of the Alien Disclosure ladies about blockchain voting, which is something that she made up.
Oh, no.
QAnon was big about the idea that we were going to have voting on the blockchain and it was going to be how they were going to approve that 2020 was stolen.
After Trump lost in 2020, the big QAnon debate was how are we going to safeguard our voting in the future and blockchain voting became a big thing.
People were talking about, oh, the votes were on the blockchain and that's how we're going to expose the steal.
Blockchain voting is a thing that has been around for a little while.
It means nothing.
It's all made up bullshit.
It was really funny listening to the whole event is super Star Trek fantasy.
Elon is a clone.
The type of crypto theories they're pushing are total sci-fi, which I'll talk about in a minute.
And then Fincham's like, paper ballots!
And the whole crowd's like, boo!
Literally! Boo!
We want our quantum ballots.
That can be anything at all times.
So Leo Biosucci, his speech wasn't even that wild.
He did speak on a panel with a couple of QAnon podcast crypto guys who...
They ended their panel with saying, where we go, when we go all.
Oh, of course they did.
Oh my god, how could they not?
But Biasucci's main speech was mainly about a make food healthier in schools bill that he recently passed, or is passing through the AZ legislature with overwhelming bipartisan support.
Everybody that's voted.
Has voted for yes for it so far.
Yeah. And it's just funny that they are like, we need to fix school lunches.
We need to make them healthier.
Like, where have I heard that before?
From the literal antichrist, Michelle Obama.
So he was just bragging about that and then bragging about an anti-trafficking bill that he passed a couple years ago.
Yeah. They used as an opportunity at the time to promote Sound of Freedom here.
So it's like he's QAnon.
He's definitely into QAnon.
He went to the last QAnon conference, Biasucci.
He used to be part of the Green Party.
And now he's like this QAnon Republican guy.
He also was like talking about some soil.
He was like advertising some soil.
And, like, I don't know if he did it on purpose, but he was, like, we got his examples for why we need to make better soil was melons.
And he just had these, like, images of big melons.
On the screen, and all the captions were about making melons bigger, and I'm like, did he do this on purpose?
Is this supposed to be an innuendo?
And the melons were being grown in Dateland, Arizona, so the caption for his speech was like, melons in Dateland.
I was like, what is this?
What are we even doing?
What are we talking about, Biasucci?
And then the other kind of, like, legit, like, semi-legit tied person was Sean Taylor, who was the, like, assistant chief of police in Millersville, Tennessee until very recently.
There's been this, like, ongoing series of investigations by the last great local journalist, Phil Williams, and it's been exposing this, like, QAnon cop, Sean Taylor.
Who was running these investigations based off of Pizzagate conspiracies and just QAnon conspiracies and doing raids with QAnon guys that he deputized and those self-described pedophile hunters.
And the Tennessee Bureau of Investigations has basically been investigating this whole department and Sean Taylor, and he recently...
He resigned.
He is now part of an election organization with Mark Fincham.
And Mark Fincham was bragging that he's the chief researcher.
And it's like, oh, cool.
Fincham also totally was one time bragging on a podcast that he and Sean Taylor had used a police database that they were illegally accessing.
So I think they'll be getting in some legal trouble because of Fincham's big fucking mouth.
We'll see.
Republicans getting in trouble for crimes in America?
Are you kidding me?
I know, I'm sorry.
Oh, God.
But yeah, so as far as that, like, okay, so XRP was the main stuff here, you know?
It was the main point of the shit, because the host, Mel Carmine, like, he has a...
Telegram that seems to be semi-poppin'.
It's got, like, over 17,000 followers.
It's pretty active.
And it's, like, it's about XRP, but it's also about Nasara and the quantum financial system.
This fucking word quantum gets used so much at this event because they are talking about...
When they say quantum financial system...
This is something that is like, you know, it has multiple meanings.
I think there's like people who actually talk about something that could be theoretically one day a quantum financial system.
But when QAnon people talk about quantum financial system, they mean like intergalactic banking system that is not tied to like earthly banking rules.
And there's also an intergalactic federation that's fighting behind the scenes to either implement Nasara or keep it from happening.
It's all sci-fi.
So when you hear them say this quantum financial shit, they are talking about something incredibly fake.
And there seems to be like...
A string of scams that essentially tie XRP to this QAnon, Nasara, and this quantum financial system.
And what I was seeing at the event was the event host, Mel Carmine, was essentially telling people to go to this website that was named after the quantum financial.
Shit. And download this manual that explains how to buy XRP.
And he was encouraging people, like, if you need to convert large sums of money into XRP, get a hold of me.
And if you go to this website, it tells you how to set up a legit wallet.
Like, a legit wallet that you can buy XRP.
But then it tells you to contact him.
And I...
I have found a couple websites that essentially broke down what happens when, allegedly, what happens when you contact him.
There's like blogs all over the internet that are like, don't trust this crypto scammer, he will steal all your XRP.
He will steal all your money.
And they essentially get told to install a...
Another application to their device that's a fake website that siphons your real money that you're putting into your real wallet.
And he asks you to send certain information because he's stealing your information.
He's phishing you.
And when you look at this fake website, it looks like you'll have XRP that is gaining value or losing value.
It looks like you're in the market.
But actually, in reality, your money has all been taken, allegedly.
But everything that was people's experiences that they were claiming was kind of what I was witnessing at the conference, was him showing people this manual how to get the wallet.
And then contact him after they install the wallet with further instructions.
And there seems to be other scams in the past that have been exactly this.
QAnon, Nasara, XRP.
There was something called the Whiplash crypto scam, which was exactly that.
It was exactly what I just explained.
And people lost millions.
One guy committed suicide in this story that, like...
The Daily Beast or Bellingcat did about people that were scammed by this.
And one of the women who did it, one of the accounts that did it was run by a woman named Emily Tang.
And the other one was this Whiplash account, which is anonymous.
Still. My opinion personally, I honestly think it is Mel Carmine that was running that account.
He's definitely involved.
He was pushing Whiplash.
He was pushing Emily Tang.
It seems like a lot of people in these spaces that have been burned by him, because there's Telegram accounts, Facebooks, blogs, all outing Carmine and this scam.
And a lot of them speculate that he was also involved with the Whiplash stuff.
Yeah, Whiplash was a big QAnon promoter, like, just constantly posting, like, never stop posting.
That guy, just content, content, content every day.
And just hustling, hustling the grift.
And it doesn't surprise me at all this is the kind of shit he's doing.
And, like, if you look in these chats, too, it's like, they don't want you to invest in other crypto.
They specifically want you to invest in this XRP.
So when you're in these chats, it's like Bitcoin is an agent of the cabal and Ethereum is run by Jewish people.
Like they bake the logo that it's actually like a star of David secretly.
So the other crypto is our, it's like black hat crypto versus white hat crypto.
You gotta keep the story going.
I mean, you can't not have the story be like that.
Oh my god.
There's also on Pump.Fun, which is a website that sells meme coins.
You can make meme coins through Solana.
There was one called Mel Exposed.
It's literally Mel Carmine edited to be behind jail bars.
It has a text bubble that says, okay, I did steal her XRP.
If you click on it, it goes to a website that, like, break down his scam, how he scams people out of XRP, allegedly.
And honestly, too, I found his real name, which is Carmelo Puello, because he did an interview back in the day under another Business that he was doing.
It was basically energy consulting.
And there's all these other websites under his other name of people with blogs and he's on bad review sites of he grifted people from this company too.
And that company is registered under his real name, which is the Carmelo Puello.
So yeah, it seems like he's got a track record of Scamming people.
I saw some claims that he scammed people in Costa Rica, but I was having trouble with all the Costa Rica databases to verify some of the info.
But it seems like this guy's got a trail of scams going.
I don't even know how much he believes in QAnon and Nasara and Jassara, or how much he's using this as a tool to grift people out of money.
He feels totally, at this point, he feels totally scammy.
Yeah, literally, right?
Because he's also like a buy gold guy.
He's got like gold websites.
He used to have some other scam websites that I found.
And him and his wife also run a so-called medbed business that they gave me a coupon for, and we'll talk about that in the medbed episode.
That thing is a fucking scam, too, and I couldn't find anything in the Florida business search that, like, hasn't even registered.
They had, like, some sovereign citizen-ass language on their website that was like, we're a private club or whatever, private membership association or whatever the fucking sovereign citizen people say.
So I don't even know if their business is legit registered, their fucking fake med bed business that promises to cure cancer, but we'll get in that.
Into the next episode when we do MedBeds.
Because they have a whole thing going on here.
Any other big things that happened at the convention that just popped into your head?
Or have we basically covered all of the nonsense from this giant XRP scam?
From people who are hugely gullible and likely to invest in something that is, as you said, like XRP is as legitimate a crypto as there is, but then you've got these people installing a wallet into your phone that then steals your XRP from you because it's a scam.
These people are scamming you.
The piss drinker was there, that Christopher Key, vaccine police guy.
Oh, yeah.
I just thought that was funny, too.
Like, if an elected official just did an event with a piss drinker, I would think that was a big deal.
But these are elected officials that did events with, like, all these types of people.
And honestly, only one outlet wrote about it.
So it's like, I don't know.
I feel like that's kind of bizarre that people don't see that this is a big deal.
But that's okay, I guess.
Okay. So I'm going to tell a funny story because I am writing about this for Left Coast Right Watch.
Yeah. But I didn't include this in the article.
So I did get the Ancient Aliens JFK book by the guy, the Mike Barra.
He gave me one.
Yeah. Oh, God.
It's very funny that you got a book like that because I just, I would have to get up and walk over to grab it, but I got Rush to Judgment, which is like the OG conspiracy book of the Kennedy assassination.
And, oh, my God.
It's just, holy shit.
I feel like we should do bonus episodes where we read a chapter of this every, like, other week or something.
I'm here for Ancient Aliens and JFK.
Okay. Read, read, read, and I shall bask.
Bask in it.
I can even send you a PDF as I read each chapter.
Yeah. Okay, so everybody, I did get this from Mike Barra.
He gave it to me, the Ancient Aliens guy, and he signed it for me.
All he signed was like, yeah, he didn't even sign anything that interesting.
He said, sorry about the misprint.
Oh, yeah.
Go ahead.
You told me this story, but I'll let you tell it.
Okay. So if you look at it, which you can't because you're listening, it says to Congress, and then it's crossed out.
And then it says my name.
Sorry about the misprint.
And then the signature by Mike Barra.
The misprint is because he was originally writing this copy for Fincham, as in State Senator Mark Fincham.
He messed up because he wrote Congressman and then realized he had to rewrite it for him.
So I have Mark Fincham's misprint copy of Ancient Aliens and JFK.
For some reason signed March 8th, 2055.
I don't...
I don't know.
I didn't ask.
Who knows?
So that was my two days amongst them.
Don't buy XRP.
Don't buy MelCoin.
Don't buy MelExposedCoin.
Don't buy CryptoCoin.
Don't buy gold.
Don't buy goldbacks.
Don't buy...
But what if I want sexy pirate lady currency?
How can I obtain legitimate sexy pirate lady currency?
Okay, you know, that is true.
I honestly went down the dive of YouTube guys that like goldbacks.
And a lot of them are like, I just like collecting the art.
Oh, God.
Oh, man.
Well, that was Haley's glorious adventure into the mouth of right-wing crypto grift slash QAnon bullshit.
Hopefully we will have more various and sundry such adventures in the future.
And now we have a book review to do, because we get to review the JFK being murdered by aliens book, which is going to maybe entice seven of our audience.
But boy howdy, let me tell you, this is an audience of one, and it's me.
And I live only for nonsense JFK conspiracy theories.
So until next time...
The whole crew should hopefully be together next week to talk med beds, and we will bang that episode out for you guys.
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