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March 6, 2025 - Adventures in HellwQrld
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Adventures in HellwQrld Presents: Flat Earth is Very Dumb

Flat Earth is really dumb but people enjoy believing in it because it allows them to make dumb arguments and fight with people online which is what is important in life. Get bonus content on PatreonSupport this show http://supporter.acast.com/hellwqrld. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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We at Gilde har alltid vært opptatt av bra mat.
Og nå har vi gått sammen med noen som også er opptatt av bra mat, nemlig Ida Gran Jansen.
Hei hei!
Og sånt blir det bra mat da.
Prøv bra mat i familien, med norsk kjøtt og uten tilsetningsoffer.
Fra Gilde og Ida Gran Jansen.
Tenker du at dagligvarekjeden er ganske like?
Vi er opptatt av at du skal kunne spise sunt.
Vi fokuserer på dine sunne valg.
Vi er ekstra opptatt av at du skal kunne spise sunt.
At vi kanskje kopierer hverandre litt?
Mulig det, men på ett område er kjedene temmelig ulike.
Nettopp.
Kylling.
I 2018 kuttet vi Remathusen den hurtigvoksne kyllingtypen i all egen kylling, og gikk over til en kyllingrasse som er mer saktevoksende.
I dag, syv år etter, er det fortsatt ingen av de andre kjedene som har gjort det samme.
Og akkurat her skulle vi ønske at flere hadde vært raskere med å kopiere oss.
Derfor sier vi Remathusen nå til de andre kjedene.
Kom igjen.
Kopier oss.
Jensidie presenterer en dårlig dag på jobben på 90-tallet.
Hei, nå er det litt krise her.
Det har vært innbrudd i butikken, og de har bare...
Vi har tatt alt!
Og en dårlig dag på jobben i dag.
Vi har blitt hacka vi nå.
Alle filene er låst, og nå skal vi bare ha masse krypte for å få låst opp igjen.
Jensidie har alltid vært der for bedrifter for små og store uheld.
Og det skal vi fortsette med.
Tiden går.
Jensidia består.
Adventures in Hell World podcast talks in depth about QAnon.
While it's meant to be comedic and formative, sometimes we have to get into things like child abuse and violence against people.
Listener discretion advised.
Hello, everybody.
I am Mike Reins, a.k.a.
Poker and Politics, and welcome to another episode of Adventures in Hell World.
This week I am joined, as always, by Jaylee, a.k.a.
Haley, a.k.a.
Arizona Right Watch.
Hello, listeners.
My brain is flat like the Earth after all this research.
So, hello.
Yes.
And we are also joined by Eric, the Flat Earth Globalist.
That's right.
And today I'm broadcasting live from Antarctica where I'm about to film footage proving that the sun does not set.
Oh, never mind.
Never mind.
Cancel.
Cancel.
I was wondering if you guys had dug into the final experiment or not during this whole thing because I was like...
I wasn't deep, deep on the final experiment, but I did enjoy the drama inside the Flat Earth community of the Flurfers breaking the ones that actually went to Antarctica and did it.
Them cracking and being like, yep, the sun was out for 24 hours.
I really don't know what to tell you.
And then those guys trying to retcon their...
Flat models after the trip and stuff like that.
And then the other flat earthers are attacking them and being like, you fucking shell!
You were in Greenland!
Admit it!
Admit it!
You weren't in Antarctica, you lying scum!
You got bought out by NASA. Yeah, yeah.
Big NASA just started throwing those fucking Kubrick bugs at you.
They broke you to their iron will.
Admit it!
Admit it, you Flat Earth cuck.
Are you big into the Flat Earth community?
Was this something that you were following a lot before this episode?
Not terribly.
Flat Earth is just, to me, modern...
You have to separate the two kinds of Flat Earths.
There's modern Flat Earth, which I think is just a contrarian dickhead argument society that just exists to get into fights online and troll people, where you know you're lying.
You know this is bullshit, but you don't care because...
You can make an argument that sounds plausible, and for us human beings that are apparently stationary on what appears to be a smooth track of land, you can be like, look man, all this shit about a globe, isn't it fucking weird?
Like, just look with your eyes!
Feel the world around you.
It's obviously flat.
You make these base appeals to ignorance and get people to buy in on that kind of shit.
And...
Then you have the biblical flat earthers who are actually nuts.
The people that are insane that think the globe is a Zionist conspiracy to take us away from God because the Bible says the earth is flat and there's a firmament and blah blah blah and all that shit.
And like those people I feel like the goofy troll fluffers on the internet just like They placate the biblical nuts because it boosts their follower base and probably fills their Patreon coffers.
But that's not who their real audience is because their real audience is just assholes.
Assholes who want to argue and just get into fights online.
It's interesting because when I was looking up videos about Flat Earth, I noticed a lot of the...
Videos, like, doing, like, why Flat Earth isn't real?
Why the biblical literacy argument doesn't work?
Like, all these, like, counter videos.
Not so much science-y guys, but, like, religious guys and pastors.
And, like, I saw quite a few Mormon accounts that were, like, trying to rationalize it in the sense that, like, some believers take the Bible too literally.
But then if you challenge what's written in the Bible, then a lot of people get defensive because it's like, well, if there's no, like, you know, if everything in the Bible isn't real, then nothing is real.
So it was like these pastors trying to explain to their congregations and their audience just kind of like, listen, this is why some things in the Bible are a little stupid, but you can't lose faith.
I actually do know a little bit about this because I did read a bit into it.
And I don't know if I've brought this up on the pod before, but I'm Catholic.
I went to Catholic school.
I haven't read the Bible cover to cover, but I have read a lot of it.
And that really, in a lot of ways, it makes me the bane of these religious nuts because they'll start pulling out biblical justifications for crap.
And I'll be like, uh, no.
I know it's in that book and I can counter everything you have to say.
But in this case, the whole thing comes down to, it's literally, it's like even a bunch of religious nuts say it's an overly literal interpretation because nowhere in the Bible does it actually state the shape of the earth.
It doesn't say it's round, flat, banana-shaped, whatever.
They're looking at stuff like...
Like, in Revelation, they mention the angel's station at the four corners of the earth, and they're like, well, obviously the earth has to be flat, because otherwise how could it have corners?
And it's like, right, because there's no symbolic language anywhere in the Bible.
I mean, it's like, literally, it's like you have to...
You have to believe that every single word in it is absolute literal.
Even the stuff that contradicts itself is absolutely literal in order to think that the Bible is telling you that the world is flat.
Yeah, one of the lines that I see that was being quoted in the Flat Earth community was, let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters and let it divide the waters from the waters.
Yeah, you see the firmament get brought up a lot with the religious flat earthers.
But yeah, basically what that was saying was that there's two different sets of water in creation.
And actually, that's something I was going to bring up because if you really read Genesis chapters 1 and 2, it contradicts itself on the creation of the universe.
But what it said was in the beginning, there was nothing.
Everything was just all blended together.
Then God created light.
And then on the second day, he took the water and he put it into two parts, the water that's above and the water that's below, that's our oceans and everything.
And he put the firmament in between to keep them separate.
But again, this requires you to kind of selectively pick and choose what you believe because reading chapter one, it says that...
It says that the dry land was separated from the water, and then the plants came, and then after the plants were created, the birds in the air and the fish in the sea, and then after that, the beasts of the land were created, and then on the sixth day, humans were created.
Then you go to chapter two, and it mentions God creating man, and then creating animals after man.
So it's like, okay, so which one of these two is the absolute truth?
Because they can't both be true.
How dare you?
I very much appreciate the how dare you.
How dare you try to contradict the veracity of the Bible?
What always gets me about Genesis is people who say that it's the literal, unearing word of God.
My reaction is, who could have written it?
You're basically telling me Adam was like, yo, God, give me a pen and paper.
I gotta write down what we're doing here.
I've got to get this all square because I'm the only living human being on the planet at this moment.
And also, according to the Bible, I'm ignorant.
I have no knowledge.
I couldn't write this down if I wanted to because I am literally a beast.
According to a lot of Bible literalists, it was written by Moses.
You see Genesis, Exodus, and...
Deuteronomy, I think that's what comes next, is the three books of Moses, which is really interesting because Deuteronomy would have been written after Moses was dead.
So he was a clairvoyant on top of everything else.
Oh yeah, yeah.
It's always that sort of nonsense.
Just getting into Genesis, man, boy howdy.
We could seamlessly shift this podcast into Being a Bible study podcast.
I'm going to keep quiet at this point, otherwise I'll just keep going on and on about inconsistencies.
Right, but I mean, that's the thing.
I could talk about Genesis for days, because it just makes me laugh.
Just the whole concept of God doing this shit to Adam and Eve, and then putting the Tree of Knowledge where they could access it.
Having an animal inside the Tree of Knowledge who is, by the way, not the devil.
That's not the devil.
The serpent.
That is absolutely nonsense that people have retconned and changed.
Because, as people have pointed out...
After God yells at the serpent, he says, now you're going to crawl on your belly.
And then smash cut to the book of Job.
And Satan walks in and is like, yo, God, what's up, bro?
God's like, not much.
Just chilling.
You know how you do.
And then Satan's like, you should beat the shit out of Job to see if he still loves you.
And God's like, sounds great.
I'll just fuck Job's shit up for whatever reason.
And then if you really want to get deep, some people even say that that...
That's not the devil.
That's another...
That's an angel called...
The adversary.
Yeah, the adversary, HaShetan, who was created purposely to contradict God.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yes.
Because that's all Satan is, it means, is adversary.
It's not a proper title.
It's not a name given to a character.
Yeah, and Lucifer was the Hebrew name for Venus.
Yeah, which is why Lucifer is the light bringer, because Venus was on a planet you would see.
Oh, shit!
That's like an indication of the sun and stuff.
Yeah, because you can see Venus at sunset and sunrise, so it precedes the light.
Yep, the Harbinger, yeah.
Right.
Oh, that was like a bit, I don't know if L ever did it on the pod, but there was a bit that he loved to do where he would have the devil be like a Hollywood agent called Lucifer Morningstar and just like pull out his business card and be like, boom, hey, how you doing?
I'm Lucifer Morningstar.
I think that's the name he went by in the Sandman comics too.
That sounds good.
Sounds right by me.
I'm here for it.
I love that name.
It slaps.
Yeah, so I'm going to pry myself away from Genesis as much as I so want to just talk about that.
The Flat Earth podcast just turns into an hour-long rant about the creationism.
The other thing that happens a lot in these conspiracy theory worlds when it comes, again, to modern Flat Earth and just bullshit contrarian arguments is that As a way to virtue signal to both the Bible Thumpers and the other contrarian dickheads,
people will ease their way into Flat Earth, where you start off talking about the COVID death jab and the Illuminati and all this stuff, and you've never brought up Flat Earth this whole time.
And then you're just thinking to yourself, man...
What am I going to do to make my next TikTok go viral?
What am I going to do to spice up my ad revenue on Twitter?
How can I get more engagement?
And then you start, oh, just asking questions about the shape of the earth and dip your toe into that water to see if anyone wants to give you some attention and, like, tussle your hair and pinch your cheeks because now you're flirting with flurf.
I remember his IET guy who got banned like 7,000 million times on Twitter.
Now he's back because he wanted everyone back.
I remember IET being a hardcore Christian, Jesus-loving, QAnon-promoting, like, dirtbag.
And then one day he suddenly just dipped his toe in the flat earth and was just like, it's time!
Time for me to start flirting!
And I'm just like, hey, good on you.
Like Stu Peters, the wannabe Alex Jones schmuck, the guy who did the snake venom in the COVID vaccines video.
Stu Peters, I unfortunately watch way too much of, and that guy has gone full Hitler.
He's like, look at me and my Mein Kampf copy, look at me and this new documentary about how Jews run the world called Occupied, definitely not a reference to Zionist-occupied government.
I just, when you started that, all I could think of was the Meeseeks from Rick and Morty.
And it was just like, I'm a Holocaust denier, look at me!
It's just like, oh my god.
I'm just like, wow.
Man, after they kicked the original two voice actors off that show, one of them for being a sex pest.
Man, Rick and Morty got real dark real quick.
Holy smokes.
I missed that episode.
I just have to mention, too, because I think I mentioned her on the pod back when Elle was still around and we were the old pod, is that they recently brought on Lily Gaddis as a co-host, which is the N-word girl.
The person that went viral for, like, one minute on the timeline for...
The train wife woman?
Yeah, yes, that one.
Yeah, and then her audience attacked her for having a black baby.
Yeah, which wasn't true.
It was just a photo of the baby looking a little bit too dark in the shadows, and they're like, they completely attacked her, but she has, like, made a little career in Nazi world, and Stu Peters is the one that helped with that.
Thanks, guy.
I'm trying to remember, who was the QAnon guy who was like, can we lay off the Flat Earth stuff until after we've cleared out the Deep State?
That was Awakened Outlaw.
I had a feeling it was my old friend Awakened Outlaw.
Yeah, our boy Awakened Outlaw was just like, yo, guys, guys, we got to defeat the New World Order here first.
And once we defeat them, then we can start like...
Looking into the shape of the Earth, and the fluffers were just like, fuck you, outlaw!
Flat Earth is the first lie.
The globe is the first lie they've hit us with.
And if we don't topple that one, none of the others will come crashing down.
Flat Earth is the Night King of the Illuminati, and if you stab the globe and destroy it, then we go back to the gold standard, and the Federal Reserve is annihilated, and all that good stuff happens.
It's the keystone for the entire deep state arch.
Yeah, the whole thing just comes crashing down like a house of cards.
And people like Stu Peters and similar Nazi types are like...
The Earth is flat because Big Jew is hiding the truth from you.
Which, like, I don't think we have to linger too much on because this is just how every conspiracy eventually rounds out for some people.
But just a quick mention, that obviously is one component of Flat Earth.
Are there any Flat Earth...
Are there any QAnon promoters that seem to genuinely believe in Flat Earth?
Well, again, I know IET did it.
I haven't seen too many people go full Flat Earth because a lot of QAnon promoters, they work the angle of being the truth seekers who are out to debunk the grifters who are lying to us.
So, like, Jordan Santer would definitely be aggressively anti-Flat Earth because he would want to keep people, like...
Thinking rationally and only buy into the say they're approved conspiracy theories, of which Flat Earth is not one.
I would also imagine a lot of them wouldn't want to potentially alienate some of their audience by picking one side or the other.
Oh, that's a really awesome thing that you reminded me of.
Memory unlocked.
Like a million years ago, back when Q was high on the hog.
So we had the Hooper hearing that was coming up.
It was in 2018. It was after the Democrats had won back the House.
And basically, folks were trying to find something good going on in the world.
And Q got everyone all hyped that...
That Huber was going to do this congressional hearing, and he was just going to blow the lid off the deep state.
Everyone was going to get their asses paddled.
This was it.
And the first half of the Huber hearing was the guy who wears the way-too-tight shirts with the big biceps from Judicial Watch, Tom Fitton.
Tom Fitton, yeah, because I was calling my shirt ain't Fitton.
I call him Biceps Guy from Judicial Watch.
Your name is far better than mine.
But yeah.
I workshopped it for a while, so...
Oh, you nailed it.
You nailed it.
God.
Boom.
I mean, Tom, my shirt ain't fitting.
Boom.
Try the veal.
It's extra cruel.
But yeah.
So like Tom Fitton and some guy the Democrats grabbed, they like sparred for...
Like, a half hour, 45 minutes.
And then these two other grifters came in and suddenly the vibe in the room got, like, super weird because even the Republicans on the committee were just like, yo, guys, we're not really feeling what you're doing here.
You're kind of yucking our yum.
And it was really strange because you're just like, fuck, man, really?
How is this an issue?
And it turned out the issue was these two assholes were trying to sue the Clinton Foundation for infinite cash, and they claimed they had evidence, and basically the committee wanted that evidence.
And then those guys were like, we're not going to give you that evidence because we wanted to hold it and keep our powder dry for our massive lawsuit against the Clinton Foundation.
So all the Republicans on their committee were like, Why are you here if you won't give us your evidence?
And they were basically saying, we're here just to drum up press for our lawsuit if some lunatic wants to back us.
The congressional Republicans were like, so you're just using us for publicity?
And the guys were like, yes.
And then the House Republicans were like, fuck you, meeting adjourned.
Go fuck yourselves.
It was really salty.
It was like not what anyone expected.
Because again, the deep state was supposed to be ended during this fucking hearing.
And instead, it just turned into this total train wreck where...
Everyone was sniping at everybody else.
I should point out that Tom Fitton is not a lawyer, despite the group he works for being called Judicial Watch.
Yeah, I love that.
He just wants people to think that he's a lawyer.
Yep.
Tom, my shirt ain't in Fitton.
Also, not a lawyer.
All of these things.
All of these things need to be reminded of the people whenever they bring that fucking clown up.
But anyhow, so this hearing, which was a huge disaster, this hearing was about to happen, and...
QAnon was really mad at Q because Republicans got their clocks cleaned in the midterms.
Q said they weren't.
What the fuck's going on?
Q was trying to explain how we let the Democrats win the House.
Don't you worry.
We got this in the bag.
It's all good.
The Hoover hearing is happening and then Q gets all these people on the Forums to be all happy.
And then Q says, let's do a Q&A. Let's have a bunch of you idiots ask me questions and I will answer them and we'll make everybody happy because you get to have your prophet messiah actually deign to listen to you morons and tell you what you want to hear.
So, all these people asked him questions, and one of the questions was basically like, yo, Q, can you just...
Crack down on Flat Earth for us.
Can you just tell the Flat Earth people that they're fucking wrong?
And Q agreed with the guy.
He was like, yeah, you're right.
Flat Earth's dumb.
And, oh man, did that fucking get a lot of people all riled up.
And people were like, hey, um...
Why did that question get submitted to Q? Was it this person trying to divide the non-movement?
Because a lot of us are fluffers.
This is like really not friendly.
What's going on here?
This ain't cool.
So here it is.
So Q posts a Q&A, Q. And then the first question is, how do you know the future?
And Q responds, control.
And then the next person says, is Seth, meaning Seth Rich, alive?
And Q says, no.
And then another person says, what were in the envelopes?
If you don't know, this is from the Pappy Bush funeral.
God, these people are all fucking horny as shit.
Yeah, you had stepped in a bonus episode on it, so you guys can go look for it.
Yeah, I love the Pappy Bush funeral because I think my favorite way of describing it is it's the Bruder film where the president doesn't get shot, you just have to pretend he does.
You just have to imagine things are happening.
It's just really crazy.
Then someone asks, is there a plan in place for after Trump?
And Q says yes.
And then someone says, will voter fraud be exposed before January?
And Q says no.
2019 pushed voter ID based on verifiable intel fraud.
2020 plus safeguarded.
You heard it direct from Q. Joe Biden, the legitimate winner of the 2020 presidential election.
Q promised that shit was on lockdown.
So we're all good.
All good.
Then someone says, is JFK Jr. alive?
Q says no.
Incredible, incredible restraint on behalf of Q, because Q fucking hates JFK Jr. shit.
He has posted so many Q drops where he was just like, fuck you, don't talk about JFK Jr. Dude's dead, get over it.
And then, what about Snowden is the next question.
He says, negotiating for return, traitor, mission to harm NSA. So Q also really hated Snowden.
Someone says, is Julian Assange stateside?
Q says no.
Well, I have to redact everything I've ever said about Q. He was right about one thing.
He was right.
Julian Assange was not in America.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Boom.
That was his broken clock moment.
He did it.
So, wow.
Wow, he had a lot.
Holy shit.
This went.
This went deep.
He answered a lot of questions.
Oh, do we have the gold?
Yes.
Gold shall destroy Fed.
Of course.
Oh, shit.
Will voter fraud in California ever be brought to light?
Yes.
Watch CA was deliberate.
Red California.
Cue his head.
Direct from cue.
Red California.
I love it.
That's awesome.
But here it is.
Here it is.
Question, just to shut the Flat Earthers up, Q, is the Earth flat?
Q, no.
Signed, Q. So yeah, there is your whole, that was Q's breathtakingly long and detailed response to Flat Earth.
And in particular, I do enjoy that Q grabbed a question that was, yo, Q, Flat Earthers are fucking morons, am I right?
And Q was like, you're right.
It wasn't like Q grabbed a question and was like, Q, what's the shape of the earth?
No.
Q intentionally picked the question that was like, yo, flat earthers are stupid.
Fucking stun on them, Q. And Q was like, you got me.
I got you, bro.
I got you, fam.
Boom.
We're doing this.
It reminds me of a...
I think when Diablo 2, when they were still working on it, people were asking all these questions, and so they had to fack up.
And it was like they'd ask a question, and there'd be this paragraph-long answer, like, you know, will there be DRM in this game?
And they spend pages and pages and pages explaining their policy on DRMs.
And then there's one, will there be cheat codes?
No.
And it was especially funny because there was this whole thing because Warcraft famously had a bunch of cheat codes in it.
And then Diablo didn't.
And apparently the Diablo creators just absolutely hated Warcraft for making people think that Diablo would have cheat codes in it.
So I'm just picturing some guy being like, oh, I can't go off on him, so I'm just going to write N-O. He doesn't want to be like, yo, fuck the Warcraft devs for fucking putting this shit in your head.
No, we're not doing cheat codes.
We never planned on doing cheat codes.
There were never going to be cheat codes.
I fucking hate that you even asked the question.
The question is an insult to me.
Get fucked.
I'm going to mention this because it ties in last week's episode and this week's episode and probably a future episode or two.
But...
There is going to be an event in Florida that is hosted by a QAnon promoter named Mel Carmine.
It seems he was kind of connected to the negative 48 people, like he would do interviews with that guy when he was still not pavement.
Quick question, can I call him Mel C? Mel C, yes.
He's one of the Spice Girls, nailed it.
He seems to be, like...
I think, like, Logically AI has done an article on his crypto scams before.
And he does, like, the crypto scams and this conference that is going to be held in Florida is, like, a QAnon crypto conference.
And he's also really into the Nessera Jessera stuff and thinks that Doge is...
It's Nesera Jesera happening.
The conference will also feature Flat Earth, people talking about Flat Earth.
It's sponsored by a Medbed company, which is like, we'll probably have to do an episode on that one day.
It's going to cover Antarctica's mysteries and strategic importance.
Hidden realms of the Inner Earth.
Is that Hollow Earth?
That could also be a fanfic based on H.B. Lovecraft's At the Mountains of Madness, because that was all about people going to Antarctica on Discovery in a millions-year-old civilization created by aliens.
All right.
Well, we'll find out, because I'm going to go to this.
Chemtrail conspiracies, obviously, Maha, make America healthy again.
And then, quote, Collaboration between Space Force and the Galactic Federation.
And I have two local lawmakers that will be speaking at this, and also a former sheriff here, because Arizona's super cool.
So I'm going to go to this.
I'm going to see what they spew.
The guy is super into the Nessara stuff.
Nessara, however you say it.
And like you said, it seems like the Flat Earth, sometimes it's like they're talking about it because they're trying to pull in rubes, and they know that they're just like, hey, Flat Earth is real.
They'll kind of hop onto your main scam, which seems to be crypto.
And I honestly didn't know this until I looked into it, but...
The guy that is kind of known by everybody as being the main Flat Earther, Mike Hughes, the guy who launched the rocket into the sky and went flat when his parachute got fucked up.
He also, it's kind of debated that he was actually a Flat Earther because he was a stunt devil who was funding these rocket launches long before he came out as a Flat Earther.
And the money just came flooding in once he...
Took the flat-earther route, saying that he was trying to prove that the Earth was flat.
Is this the guy who was building rockets in his garage and launching them from his driveway or something like that?
Yeah, he would go out in the desert a bit, but yeah, essentially.
And he died in 2000. Oh yeah, yeah, he fucked that shit up pretty good, yes.
It was not great.
Yeah, I'm looking at his Wikipedia page right now.
He died in February 2020, so it probably wasn't COVID. Because I was following the crash of a rocket.
Yeah, he killed himself in a rocket.
The parachute didn't go off.
When the rocket launched, the parachute fell off, and it was just game over from that.
I didn't know it was in Arizona.
I didn't know the rocket was manned.
That's crazy.
Yeah, yeah.
He went up himself and he blew it himself.
Wow, I assumed he was just launching rockets in the air like a Boy Scout or something.
Also, it's like, you know, it's like, okay, you want to prove the Earth is flat.
You don't have to launch yourself.
You could just put, like, a camera on something and let it go up really high.
That's what I thought he was doing.
You know, I mean, silly me, I thought he was being reasonable about this.
Not so much.
But I know that's a whole flat Earth thing where they say, like, if you go up in an airplane, you know, you still can't see the curvature of the Earth, and that proves that the Earth is flat.
Because, you know, 20,000 feet up, obviously you should be able to see the curvature at that point, I guess.
Yeah.
I actually had one thing I was wondering, because, like, I know, like, the religious nuts, we already kind of went over their explanation for the flat Earth is because they claim the Bible says the Earth is flat, so anybody saying the Earth is round is trying to remove God's will from us or whatever, but what about the so-called scientific flat Earth?
I mean, I know they say, like, NASA's lying to us, but do they ever say, why?
Like, what's in it for them?
You know, I mean, there's got to be a reason why they're lying to us about the shape of the Earth.
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Generally speaking, it comes down to sort of like hidden technologies and hidden knowledge and the fact that the Illuminati, we're not ready for the truth about what our world really is and that if you break the great ice wall...
You can go directly to Mars.
I've seen people talk about that kind of stuff where we're not really separated by all this distance from all these planets that we are actually already sort of...
We have bridges in our solar system to other worlds that we could access if the Illuminati would but let us.
They just don't because they're mean and they're jerks.
Trying to nail down why the world is doing that is not a universal thing in, like, contrarian asshole flattery.
It's like, why the world is hiding this truth from us isn't, it's not fully explained.
We're not straying from God's light or anything.
I mean, it's just weird, I mean, because it's like you figure if they're lying to us, there's got to be a reason why.
They're not just, they're not doing it just for the laughs, you know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's because I was seeing, like, there's that, like, the Flatter Society club.
And I guess, like, before them, the, like, before that kind of, like, group was the collection of Flat Earthers, which is, yeah, like, a lot of memers are weird, like, just Christian people or, I don't know, just people who just believe anything.
But there was, like, this, like, science, like, kind of focused flat Earth society that was, like, they sought to prove that the Earth was actually flat, but it dissolved.
It dissolved a long time ago, and it's probably because, like, hey, we figured it out long ago, like, before the Middle Ages, before...
There's, like, this, like, joke that, like, we're going back to the Dark Ages by believing in some of this stuff, but, like...
Yeah, we've known it was a sphere for a long time.
Aristotle and all them shit about the Earth being round.
I just went to Our Flat Earth and found why would they lie about Flat Earth?
And the first thing that I said is economic implications.
The space programs, NASA, RASA, JAXA, and others operate on massive budgets and people immediately were like, bro, NASA's not fucking making any money at all.
What are you talking about?
And even if they were, there's plenty of other stuff they could be grifting us on to make money.
Right.
Just pump that money into fucking more cancer research that'll go nowhere because the government made cancer or whatever.
Fucking Jesus.
Scientific and educational collapse.
If humanity discovered the Earth was flat, it would invalidate centuries of established science, dismantling entire fields of study.
The education system would face a crisis of legitimacy, and experts who built their careers on the globe model would be discredited.
Imagine the public backlash against scientists, educators, and institutions.
Trust in academia and authority figures would plummet, leaving society in intellectual turmoil.
I think we would get over Flattery pretty quickly.
I don't think my world would be shaken.
This is literally just a different version.
No, I literally wouldn't care.
I'd just be like, okay.
I'd be like, oh, the Earth's flat.
Fucking, wow, that's crazy.
Fucking new.
Whatever.
I had to look it up because I can never remember his name, but Aristosthenes was the guy who proved.
Over 2,000 years ago that the Earth is round.
He did that in such an interesting way.
He measured the angles of the sun's rays at different locations of the Earth.
Yeah, he was in Alexandria and he planted a stick in the ground and at noon or some specific time he measured the length of the shadow and at the exact same moment he had another guy in Athens or something.
Measure a shadow from a stick that's the exact same length, and then he used, like, trigonometry to compare the difference in the angles, and he got really, really close.
I think he said the...
Like, 1% off.
It was like...
I was like, okay, I'm stupid as fuck.
This motherfucker in 240 BC is doing some math that I'm just like, huh?
I think we've got a lot of flat...
Not just flat earth, but, like, a lot of conspiracies that I'm...
Realizing is just like, it's just a basic, we got an education problem.
And a lot of people just do not understand a couple basic things about science, physics, you know, elections, how they're run maybe, you know, people fall into conspiracies seemingly based off of ignorance.
I don't, I, what is his name, like Bryce Mitchell?
This happened this week.
I feel like every week we decide on a topic and some celebrities are like, I'm going to give you some juice.
I think it's the number 23 thing where if you're looking for something, you find it, you know?
Yeah, literally.
But there's like an MMA. Yeah, the Hitler guy.
Yeah, Bryce Mitchell.
And he released a video this week, this last week, that was why the Earth is flat.
And he, yeah, he praised Hitler before, which kind of got him into some hot water.
And the video was just, like, him drawing an Earth on a piece of paper and explaining, like, if a helicopter has to hover, it has to...
I don't even know what he's trying to say.
It sounds like he was doing that thing where people say that if the Earth is rotating, then how come...
How come when a helicopter goes up in the air, it stays in the same spot?
Which you would have to not understand how inertia works for that to make any sense to you.
Right.
The idea that the moment you leave the Earth's surface, the Earth is spinning under you, and you are not spinning above it.
Yes, like anything that goes in the air should suddenly fly 5,000 miles to the west.
Yes, exactly.
Also, I like how Flat Earth maps completely distort how far apart continents are from one another.
You have to, because any time you're projecting a three-dimensional object onto a two-dimensional image, there's going to be distortion.
And this is where you get into, me and Elle did this back in the day with Karma, this is where you get into the Australia isn't real people, because they can't make their map work.
So they're like, well, if my map won't work, I can't acknowledge defeat and accept that the globe is real.
I have to claim, no, fuck you.
Now, on top of the moon landings and all the other evidence that I have to reject, I have to reject the existence of Australia.
Yeah, I've actually joked with her about that a couple times.
She said something like, well, what do you know?
You're from a country that doesn't even exist.
Right, exactly.
Exactly.
Can I go on way too long of a rant about the ice wall?
Yes, you can.
Yes, you can.
Not a problem.
Not a problem.
Yeah, I'll go get a snack.
I'll be back in like 20 minutes.
20 minutes?
Yeah, you said way too long.
You know, maybe 25. Well, I'll be Jon Snow and just quietly watch over the ice wall while you talk.
Yes.
Thank you.
Somebody had to do it.
Okay, but doesn't it kind of seem like a lot of this, like, beyond the ice wall, kind of, like, conspiracies about the ice wall just are, like, people who were way too into the, like, appendix part of Game of Thrones, A Song of Ice and Fire, and, like, Lord of the Rings and shit?
I was like, yeah, I was into this, because I think I kind of felt, this is why I fell down this rabbit hole, because I was always like, dang, the maps that...
George R.R. Martin makes her kind of cool, unlike the lore.
You just reminded me of something.
I had my own, came upon something related to our topic.
Two days ago, I came upon this thread by this guy who was talking about how in Tolkien's Legendarium, the Earth was flat during the First Age, but then it became round in the Second Age.
And so by the time of...
Lord of the Rings, which is in the Third Age, the Earth was round, but it was originally flat.
And I was trying to figure out if I could come up with a way to bring this up, and then you mentioned Lord of the Rings.
I'm like, ah, I gotta say this.
Okay, that is kind of part of this ice wall stuff.
So basically, the Flat Earthers have conspiracies about Antarctica.
Like, that it kind of encapsulates the whole Earth.
Yeah, and it keeps all the water from spilling out.
Yeah, and if you go to, like, a different type of so-called flat Earth conspiracy, they do this, like, the Gaia conspiracy of the shape of the Earth, which is, it's kind of, it's like the snowman Earth theory, which is funny because the snowman is actually, like, three globes, but...
It's flat because it's technically infinite.
This is very confusing.
So if you look at this interpretation of the Earth, it looks like a thick-ass snowman from some of the angles, but then some of the angles you'll see it from head down.
Some of these maps seem to come from people who understand that Flat Earth is mostly a joke, and a lot of this shit is just lore.
But they're into, like, just the community and expanding on these, like, outer worlds within our world because it's fun.
And I sort of agree that it's fun because it does get into some interesting stuff.
So basically, there's the Antarctica ice wall.
And the way that you get to these other parts of the Earth, which is Atlas is the second level.
The third level is Occupara.
And then beyond Occupara is just these wastes that kind of wrap into themselves and it just becomes this infinite, like, flat Earth.
And then there's some theories that kind of expand on it that make it, like, a whole flat universe.
It's really interesting, the maps that people make with this.
It's like map nerds.
But anyway, you can get to...
Atlas, which is the second globe, through these gates.
Basically, they think there's these cracks in the Great Ice Wall that all have their own lore within themselves.
So there's the Leviathan Gate, the Sentinel Gate, the Tiger's Gate, and the Serpent's Gate.
They claim that the Leviathan Gate is part of...
Some of the biblical literists seem to be into that because they say...
It's mentioned in the Bible, but it's just their fantastical interpretation of it.
All these, like, sections are guarded by, like, these mythical creatures.
So, like, Leviathan Gate, obviously, giant ocean creatures.
And if you actually look at, like, a topography map of the ocean, some of these flat Earth or globe Earth, or what do you call it?
Snowman, Gaia, Earth, conspiracy theorists.
They look at that topography as proof that these are the Leviathans kind of like waving through our waters.
So they're like, look, this one looks like the shape of a snake head.
That's a giant Leviathan.
It's very like a mud fossil university type way of thinking.
It's like those guys that think rocks are proof of like, this is an alien head because it looks like it's a rock in the shape of an alien head.
This is an alien head.
Or they look at like giant rocks and they're like, look, it's proof of giants.
Did I disconnect?
For a brief second, yeah.
You got quiet for a second, but yeah.
Sorry, listeners, if you didn't hear all that.
It's not important.
So we had the Leviathan Gate and all that other good stuff going on.
We're talking about mud fossils and that.
There's these giant penguins that guard the Sentinel Gate, which I think is such a funny...
They're like...
They're like highly intelligent, giant, very ferocious penguins that guard the Sentinel Gate.
Okay, that's straight out of H.P. Lovecraft, because when they're...
Really?
Yes, because at the Mountains of Madness, when the guy's going through the ancient city, they get swarmed by these gigantic blind penguins.
That's so funny.
I mean, you can tell that a lot of the stuff within the Flat Earth, the Snowman Earth, the Gaia Earth kind of stuff...
That it's, like, just taking from other, like, you know, like, ancient Greek, ancient Rome, Nordic, like, Asian mythology, aliens, cryptids, high fantasy stuff, Christianity.
So anyway, so you get past the Great Ice Wall, and then you get to Atlas, basically the second part of the Flat Earth.
And, like, this is where things start to lose reality a little bit.
Like, they claim that, like, actual humans, like, from our part of the Earth have been able to breach these parts of the ice wall and kind of colonize Atlas, but reality becomes pretty wild within Atlas because they talk about this substance called ether, like, aether.
And basically, like, they have that theory, like you said, like, it's a flat Earth, but it's expanding.
It's getting taller.
And, like, the lower parts of the Earth have more Aether, and the part of the Earth that we're at has way less Aether, because the higher it gets, like, the weaker it is.
And that's why our realm, essentially, is not as magical.
Even though we'll get some things like Bigfoots and some cryptids and some people that can do telekinesis, according to these people.
Or like Astral Project or whatever, because it's basically the Aether leaking through the Great Ice Wall entrances into our universe and causing some weird shit to happen.
But then you get to...
Atlas and Akupara, and it's Crazyville down there.
Shambhala and Shangri-La gets mentioned here.
Skelia, which I think is from the Odyssey.
I think that's an Odyssey thing.
And then you get into Akupara, and you'll see Asgard mentioned, and Hyperborea, which we're starting to get into some racist territory.
Atlantis, obviously.
The Nephilim, which is like a biblical thing.
They claim that the Nephilim live here.
Valhalla Patmos, which is the Yakub island, the nation of Islam Yakub with the big head, created all white people as the devil kind of conspiracy.
Eden, this is where Eden is.
And then like...
Uh, Lumeria?
Another, like, vaguely white supremacist conspiracy.
Lumeria?
Yeah.
Um, so yeah, it's like, uh, it sounds not flat because it's more like a snowman, but essentially, like, once you get beyond the Occupara, it's just, like, these wastes, uh, like, these wastelands that go on kind of infinitely, hence flat.
So that's my spiel about the Great Ice Wall.
It's funny because a couple of those places you mentioned, you know, they get brought up in other myths as like, you know, as specific locations on Earth.
Like Shangri-La is supposed to be part of the hollow Earth and you can access it through mountains in Tibet, I think.
And the Muria was based on this concept of this fictional land.
Yeah.
yeah explain hollow earth uh hollow earth basically is well there's i mean there's no one thing but there's there's a number of theories that uh you know that that that there's one or possibly more worlds inside of this world and it's even and some of them even speculate that we're in a hollow earth and there's another layer above us um yeah but basically it's all like i'm trying to think like there was a specific one where they said like um like admiral bird
i think it was the guy who discovered the north pole like supposedly he found a portal in a hole in the world in the north pole that led into agartha which which is a kingdom in the Hollow Earth, and that's where UFOs come from because the ships they use look like flying saucers and stuff.
So you really start getting into all kinds of esoteric UFO. And new-agey stuff with it.
Yeah, Admiral Byrd is kind of the, like, he's the hero of the flatterous bullshit because people make up all this stuff.
They're like, after the war, he claimed that he blah, blah, blah.
And then you get into all this talk about how...
Antarctica ended up becoming internationally just everyone just like signed a treaty saying none of us are going to fight over Antarctica.
We're just cool with it.
And flat earthers will say that nations on Earth fight over everything.
Why are all the nations of the world Willingly accepting that we all just kumbaya share Antarctica.
Something sus is going on there.
It can't be because it's a million degrees below zero in Antarctica and there's no natural resources to exploit.
Right, exactly.
The whole fact that Antarctica sucks and there's no reason to do this is probably the actual issue.
So then once you get into Antarctica and that shit, then you get into the Ice Nazis.
And so the Ice Nazi idea is that Germany is getting their asses kicked in World War II. They know they're going to lose.
So they suddenly run a bunch of their crack troops down to the South Pole.
And they basically...
Crack open the South Pole and start building this underground world where, I assume they bring some Nazi women, otherwise this thing's going to die out very quickly.
They create this Nazi civilization under the ice of Antarctica, and then after the war, when...
Everyone else goes to Antarctica.
They all get their asses kicked.
The Nazis are deeply entrenched and they've got Antarctica under lockdown and they body the invaders.
So the neo-Nazi folk are just waiting for the ICE Nazis to burst free from Antarctica with their horrifying future technology that they've created while being...
Unbothered by the rest of civilization for decades.
And once their Nazi UFOs and everything crush humanity, we will be under the rule of whichever Nazi dude happens to be running the South Pole at the given time in that LARP story.
I'm going with Hitler's grandson, Adolf III. I'm okay with Adolf III. Adolf, three sticks?
I'm good with it.
And what's really funny was right before Haley got into all this, that little thing about...
Why would they lie about flat Earth?
Literally said, hidden resources and geopolitical implications.
Consider the claims of Admiral Byrd, who spoke of vast, resource-rich land beyond Antarctica.
If these lands exist, why aren't we accessing them?
They could hold abundant supplies of gold, silver, oil, and other resources.
Revealing this truth would disrupt the artificial scarcity that sustains the current power structures.
Everyone could live in abundance, but such equality threatens those who benefit from hoarding wealth and controlling access to resources.
The elites who dominate the world would lose everything!
Yes.
So the lands beyond Antarctica are lush with gold and oil.
It's just literal paradise that's being denied us via the scoundrels hiding at the top of the ice wall.
I love how these global elites are keeping us from being in a post-scarcity society, and the people they look to as their saviors are billionaires.
You know, they're fighting the elites.
You might think they're elite, but that's only because they have billions of dollars.
They're actually good guys.
Yeah, you have no idea what the amount of money the true elites have.
Oh, my God.
I was briefly not listening.
Did you mention in this that Himmler actually tried to look for Atlantis?
No, we did not.
Okay, yeah, that's part of it.
Is that the Nazis, actually during their entire reign, were looking for Atlantis and also the Ark of the Covenant?
Oh yeah, Himmler was in all kinds of mystical stuff.
He went to Tibet because he was convinced that that's where the Aryans went after they left India.
Oh yeah, that's a common one.
Cool Nazis.
They're so smart.
They're definitely the master race.
Right.
I mean, if you listen to the ancient aliens people, they invented time travel, among other things.
The ancient aliens people actually love Nazis.
I'm not saying this on them as a personal level.
It's just they do seem to attribute a lot of stuff to Nazis.
And it's like, well, it's not true, first of all.
And also, why are you acting like the Nazis were...
These superior, otherworldly inventors.
If you really go into the ancient aliens stuff, you realize that, at least in its origins, it was a deeply white nationalist group.
Because Eric Von Daniken, the guy who kind of started the whole modern ancient aliens thing, his whole stance is basically, how on earth could all these non-white people have created these vast civilizations?
It must have been someone else who built it for them.
Okay, literally, right?
It's like, there's no way that these...
Like, we got these people measuring, you know, people who are measuring the fucking Earth being round to the 1% in 240 BC. You think people don't know how to make, like, a statue?
It's just, like, it's so funny.
It's such a funny, offensive premise of a show.
The History Channel, we gotta do some History Channel stuff at some point.
We can talk about the Hitler channel.
That's totally okay.
It is literally the Hitler channel.
Oh, it is.
I've watched so much Ancient Aliens, too.
That was like, for a while, my wife and me, we'd sit down and we'd watch an episode or two before bed just to have a good chuckle.
Yeah, El talked about one Halloween party he went to where a guy had his hair done up like the Ancient Alien guy, and he had this contraption in between his hands.
And whenever he would expand his hands, it would just be a sign that said, aliens.
So he would just be like, he would just be talking to people, talking to people, and just keeping his hands, like, steepled like this.
Our audience can't see, but you have to envision it.
Then he would just expand his hands, and the sign would just come up open and say, aliens.
I mean, I'm sure they all know the memes, so they can visualize what we're talking about.
Yeah, oh yeah.
But, yeah, this is...
Again, all of this stuff...
Is just crypto versions of other terrible things.
You've got the crypto-Nazism, the crypto-racism.
Flat Earth hides a lot of stuff inside of it.
That's the thing, is that you can defend yourself by being like, hey, I'm just asking questions about Flat Earth, buddy.
And then...
As you're doing that, you're slowly leading people down a road where it's just sort of like, yeah, and also the Jews are bad.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what's going on here?
And you're like, no, no, no, I'm just asking questions.
I'm just asking about why they're trying to make us stray from God's light.
That's all.
That's all I'm saying.
And just that kind of bullshit.
It's just that kind of thing where...
Flat Earth, in a lot of ways, is sort of like a universal conspiracy theory because there's so much bullshit you can pull into it.
Like, one of Elon's rockets explodes in the sky.
Oh, he was trying to pierce the firmament!
Yeah, I see that.
Take that, Elon!
Boom!
God cut you down!
What about all our successful moon landings?
Faked!
I love that.
That's another thing.
Q has adamantly stated that the moon landing happened.
Yeah, and I think, like, the people who admit that there are satellites in the sky say they're only, like, a thousand miles up in the air or something like that.
Right.
It's like, how does GPS work?
It's like, ah, it works, but it still doesn't debunk Flat Earth.
Fuck you.
Wait, so Q did say that the moon landing happened.
Yes.
Wow, why?
Ah, because Q wanted to talk about, like, how, like, we are, like, the cool sci-fi people who've got, like, all kinds of, like, stuff going on.
And we're awesome that way.
So he didn't want to, yeah, he didn't want to ruin, like, the sort of, like, that idea.
The idea that America and the...
We have these...
I think it's mostly about the fact...
God, what a terrible explanation I'm doing here.
Okay, line, and then take three, boom.
No, I think it's mostly about the fact that...
You have this deep state.
You have this Illuminati who are so powerful and are doing all these crazy things.
And then you, Hugh Team, defeat them.
So you want to maintain the integrity of all the cool stuff the bad guys did.
Because if you say the bad guys were full of shit about everything, then you're not really that great.
You beat a bunch of fucking morons.
It's, uh, what?
A bunch of pro wrestlers always talk about when you're cutting a promo building up to your big match you're about to have, you can't And, um...
This is in 2018, so this is still fucking early shit.
Someone asked, and I love that they fucking titled this by saying Q. They're like, dearest Q, my good friend.
Did NASA fake the moon landings?
Have we been to the moon since then?
Are there secret space programs?
Is this why Space Force was created?
And Q says, false, moon landings are real.
Programs exist that are outside of public domain.
So that's what Q wanted.
Q wanted the, like, Space Force is doing all kinds of stuff, and this is where we...
I would say plus, saying that the moon landing is real ties into American exceptionalism, because you can say, look, we fucking landed on the moon, bitch.
Right.
Right, exactly.
And this brings in the whole Italian spy satellite and the German servers and all these watch groups that were monitoring what was going on in our elections in America and the world.
There's another Q drop where Q talks about watching Obama on spy satellites and mocking him as Obama's trying to scamper around the globe to find someone to back him now that he's been removed from the presidency and has lost his power.
He's hapless as a babe.
And soon Trump shall destroy him.
Smash cut to never being destroyed.
I remember back to the moon landing.
I believe it's the Flat Earth Society.
They claim that We did go up there and we did land on the moon, but the footage of the Earth from the moon was faked to make it look like a globe.
Of course, yeah.
I have seen that before where it's like even some of the guys who claim, you know, the whole Stanley Kubrick film, the moon landing thing.
No, we did land on the moon, but the footage we've seen is all faked because they don't want us to see the moon Nazis or whatever.
Yes, the moon Nazis is all about.
That's what it's all about.
Or if you're Michael Bay, we did it to hide the fact that we were looking for Megatron up there.
Yes.
Or whatever, the Ark or whatever it was.
was.
I can't even remember those goddamn movies.
Oh, God.
All I'm remembering is one of the movies where Megatron's asking for all of his fucking...
He's trying to build the team again, and then he asks for this one Transformer, this one Decepticon, and the military's like, no, hard pass.
Just goes right to the next guy.
He knows he was making a big ask there, but he didn't get it, so it's okay.
He's just going to move along, pick the next guy on his list of people for his team.
Oh, man.
But yeah, Flat Earth.
These people.
These clowns.
What a bunch of clowns.
What's the nuttiest Flat Earth theory you've ever seen?
God, that's tough.
I have a couple contenders, but I want to hear what you guys say first.
For me, it's just...
I just think that unearing biblical Flat Earth is just so nuts because...
You just get into this mindset where nothing can be different than what this ancient book said.
The Earth has to be flat.
Evolution has to be bullshit.
Just all of it.
Tower of Babel has to be literal.
So why are we allowed to build skyscrapers without God running over here and kicking our skyscraper over?
You just box yourself into this bizarre worldview that's so nutty to me.
I just don't understand it.
I can get just sort of, like, doing a little, like, yeah, the Bible says it's flat, and the bad people are just trying to deceive us with Lucifer's silver tongue, and blah, blah, blah.
But when you just get so in the weeds on it, and you're just like, this is part of biblical literalism, and I will not be dissuaded.
I mean, that kind of shit is just, okay, I'm not going to make eye contact and I'm going to walk out of the room slowly and I'm just going to try to get to safety because this person is obviously insane and a danger to themselves and anyone within arm's reach of them.
So yeah, this is fucking bad.
Go ahead.
No, I was just...
I thought you were winding down, so I was going to ask Haley.
No, I was.
I was going to throw at the Haley, but we both wanted the Haley throw to ourselves.
Little catch.
Okay.
I kind of did go down the rabbit hole a bit of the Antarctica isn't, or not Antarctica, Australia isn't real.
It doesn't exist.
Because it's like, that's, I, that.
That goes far beyond even, like, there were no towers, there was no plane.
Like, the amount of people that would have to be in on Australia not existing is, like, fascinating.
And it's like, there's even, you know, it's like, okay, people have been to Australia, people are from Australia, but there's, like, pretty ridiculous conspiracies to explain that away.
And, like...
Even people that claim, like, nobody's actually been to Australia, the flights get diverted elsewhere and you don't know about it, or the flights are canceled, all the flights get canceled, nobody can ever actually make it to Australia.
And it's like, yeah, they do.
Yeah, they do.
I know people who have been to Australia.
Yeah, and if there's no Australia, then that probably means there's no New Zealand.
So where the hell were those multi-million dollar Lord of the Rings movies films?
Right?
Right.
Yeah, it's just total, it's just the most crippling mental illness to just outright hand-wave away a continent that is also a country, and it's sister country, where they filled the Lord of the Rings.
But they didn't, because it doesn't exist.
Because again, I have to have my dumb pet conspiracy theory be true, and therefore I'm just going to reject reality.
All right, Eric.
All right.
Well, this one that I was going to mention kind of ties in a little bit to what you were saying about how people have to be in on it is I saw somebody claim that because the earth is flat, there's no time zones.
And I'm like, so, okay, let's see.
I have a cousin who moved to Germany many years ago.
So it's like when I call her or her kids up, are they lying to me about what time it is over there?
It's really two in the afternoon where I'm like, yeah, I got to go to bed soon.
It's just, you would have to have basically the entire world, except for whatever time zone is the real one, you know, in Greenwich, England or whatever, you know, lying about what time it is currently in order for the no time zones thing to be real.
And then there's this other guy.
He was saying that gravity isn't real.
Because I think this spun out from somebody pointed out that if the world actually was flat, then gravity on Earth wouldn't work the way it does because if it's a disk, then the center of the Earth, let's say the North Pole, is where the center of gravity would be.
So that would mean that everything on Earth would be being pulled towards the North Pole.
So the farther you get away from that, the more you're going to be kind of angled.
And not standing up straight and stuff.
So this guy was like, well, there's no such thing as gravity.
What's really happening is that the Earth is hurtling upwards through space at 9.81 meters per second squared.
So that makes it look like there's gravity, which I think he was basing that idea on this thought experiment by Einstein where he said, imagine that you're in the middle of deep space and you're in an elevator and that elevator is going.
Going through space at 9.81 meters per second squared.
In that situation with you having no way of being able to look out and see what's really happening, it would look like there's gravity.
You would let go of a pencil and it would appear to fall to the ground, but what was actually happening was the bottom of the elevator was flying up and it catches the stationary pencil and stuff like that.
So this guy was trying to say that and I'm like, okay, the problem with that whole theory is what is moving the Earth?
Acceleration requires a force acting upon the body.
It doesn't just happen.
So is there an infinite supply rocket engine tied to the bottom of the Earth?
I mean, what exactly is going on that's simulating gravity?
And this guy had no explanation for that because he obviously hadn't thought that far into it.
I saw some...
People, like, some are some conspiracy, like, dabbling in gravity talk with this Gaia Earth, this, like, snowman flat Earth.
Because that aether that, like, kind of makes our world normal because we don't have a lot of it.
And, like, the other levels, like, insane, like, just cuckoo reality.
It's also the explanation for gravity.
It's the reason for gravity and reality stabilizing.
As you get further down into the flat Earth levels, so-called gravity, the Aether, becomes less...
Relevant.
So there's not gravity in some of those areas.
But it also is being fought by the anti-gravity, which they call Azoth, which is the essence of God.
And this is what creates matter and energy and emotions.
The discussion of gravity in the Gaia Earth stuff is...
Interesting.
And I remember there was one thing that Stephanie couldn't be here today.
She wanted us to mention the movie Dark City because Dark City is one of those movies where people claim is like Alex Proyas, the director, he was trying to let us know that the Earth is really flat because I don't want to get into any spoilers for anybody who hasn't seen Dark City because it's a really good movie and you should see it if you haven't.
But basically it...
Basically, it turns out that the world they're living on is flat.
And this guy was like, yeah, see, this is some guy trying to sneak the truth past Hollywood and it censors how the Matrix was supposed to be telling us about reality.
And how The Shining was about Kubrick admitting he faked the moon land.
Like, all movies are an effort to broadcast the truth to us, and if only we would accept it, we would validate intergalactic contract law and break the globalist's grip upon our tiny little brains.
But remember, only the first Matrix movie, because that was before either one of the directors turned into women.
Yeah, before they transitioned, exactly.
Yeah, can't have those evil trans people doing anything.
No.
And also, the second and third movies, very bad.
Actually terrible.
It's funny about Conspiracy, that Flat Earth Crypto Chemtrails QAnon UFO conference.
We'll also have a speaker that claims to be the true person who made the Matrix.
Like, that's their grift, is that they pretend to be the person who made the Matrix, and they are not.
They are not the person that made the Matrix.
I've always been told that the person who made the Matrix was also the person who made the Terminator, and they were a woman.
No, well, you get that.
It's two different people, but yes, there's a woman who claims that James Cameron stole the Terminator from him, and a bunch of other movies, including The Matrix, which wasn't even a James Cameron movie.
But yeah, there's been a couple people who've tried to claim the title of the real writer of The Matrix.
That's so funny.
The one thing I will say, whoever came up with that bullshit about being the real writer of The Matrix, they struck gold in the sense that, again, the second and third movies were so bad, it makes you think, yeah, the Wachowskis were hacks.
They did have to steal something to get a good movie out of this.
They couldn't have possibly written that first good movie, given the crap they did with the second and third ones.
Which is why Matrix 4 is actually my second favorite Matrix movie.
Because it was actually better than 2 and 3. Which wasn't hard.
Is that the newer one?
Yeah.
The new one with Neil Patrick Harris is the big bad.
Spoiler alert for people who haven't watched that movie.
Go to hell, all of you.
But it's really funny that Barney is the villain in that movie.
It's great.
But, yeah.
And...
I'm just doing a total segue that no one on Earth cares about this, but I do.
And we're not doing the Babylon 5-5 this week, so instead we're going to do the Matrix 4-4.
But what's so funny, and again, if you haven't seen the Matrix 4 and you want to see it, turn the podcast off now immediately.
We're basically done.
Bye, everyone.
Have a great time.
The one thing that made Matrix 4 just end with a crash.
Was that there was no payoff to the big action scene at the end.
Trinity ends up being the one this time.
It's basically the payoff for the movie.
This time in this cycle, Trinity gets to be God and Neo gets to be the love interest.
So they reverse what happened the first time they went through this cycle.
The one transitioned.
Right, the one transitioned.
The one transitioned from the guy to the gal.
It just sort of ends nebulously, and then Trinity shows up and beats up Barney, and that's basically kind of it.
It's just like, okay, great.
And they didn't really pay off the really bad actor they had playing Agent Smith, which was really stupid.
And the movie...
The movie had such an obvious ending that, like, I literally came up with it ten minutes after I walked out of the theater, which is you put them back on the roof of the building, the same way you did in Matrix 1, and you have Agent Smith, like, fist fight Neo.
Beat him, because Neo's not the one this time.
Then he starts fistfighting Trinity, and she's holding up a little better than she should.
So we're getting a little wink and a nod here that something's going on.
But then Agent Smith finally grabs her, and he throws her off the building.
And then he turns to Neo and goes, What are you going to do now?
You can't fly.
You ain't shit.
I just killed your girl.
And now I'm going to kill you.
And then Neo smiles.
And then Agent Smith notices that he smiles.
And then he turns around and he screams, no!
And now Trinity is flying behind him.
And then Trinity one-shots him the way Neo one-shotted him in the first movie.
And it was such an easy thing to do and they just didn't do it.
And it was like, oh my god.
Whichever Wachowski sister, because basically one of the Wachowskis just jumped onto the movie to try to take a bullet so the movie wouldn't be total stains and just a massive cash grab.
I think it was Lana who did the movie.
Yeah, Lana.
I always just called them Larry and Barry Wachowski because I completely didn't know their names.
Well, I'm not going to deadname them and correct you, but...
No, no, no.
Their first names never mattered to me.
They were the Wachowski brothers, now they're the Wachowski sisters.
Anyhow, like...
I just was like, man, this was a layup.
This wasn't even something I thought about for a long time.
I was like, oh, that's been great!
No, that was literally finishing my popcorn and walking out of the building I came up with that idea.
So, just don't understand it.
Anyhow, last thing I wanted to bring in before we're done today is the Trump AI Gaza video.
If you have not seen this, what the fuck?
This is the goddamn president of the United States, the guy that could end us all in nuclear fire if he ever decided to do so.
Don't give him ideas.
Well, he wanted to nuke a hurricane, so I mean, the man does love nukes.
Somebody pointed out that that's just kind of his whole boomer thing, is that he grew up in an era where the nuke was the most powerful thing in existence, so obviously it should be able to solve any problem.
It's the Goku of real life.
When all you've got is a hammer, everything's a nail.
When all you've got is nukes, everything's a thing that can be solved via a nuke.
Everything's a Hiroshima.
Yes, everyone's Hiroshima when you've got a nuke.
Hurricane Hiroshima.
Debt Crisis Hiroshima.
Ukraine, Hiroshima.
Ukraine, Hiroshima.
All of it.
So...
Trump posted this thing on his Truth Social account, which was like a 30-second AI video of himself checking out a sexy lady who turns to show her ass to the camera.
And then we get...
Bearded belly dancers.
Their heads are like men, but their bodies are women.
I saw stills from that, and I thought they were AI images.
I didn't realize they were from a video.
No, it's AI. It's all AI. I knew it was AI, but I didn't realize it was a video.
I thought it was four still images, and I thought that was all it was.
It's a video.
It's a 30-second AI video of just bizarre crap.
Alright, well, if I need an epic kick, maybe I'll go look for it.
Oh, you don't have to go looking for it.
It will find you.
It's everywhere.
It's omnipresent at this point.
I didn't know what you were talking about, honestly, until you mentioned it.
I thought you were talking about the AI department, the DHS video that was like...
Was that the one with Cash Patel and those other guys dancing in synchronization?
I saw that one earlier.
No, it was like Trump.
Like, licking Elon's feet.
Oh, that, yes.
That was beautiful, yes.
I love how there's just so much of this slop around the internet now that we're asking so many questions about.
Which slop are we talking about?
Yes, I know.
It's like somebody asked me if I heard about the latest plane crash, and I was like, which one?
Right, exactly.
Yeah, we had one here.
Yeah.
That one's old news.
There's been like three since then.
Yeah.
So we had the AI belly dancers, the AI transgender belly dancers.
We have Trump having the sexy lady dancing for him.
We have the small statues, the small keepsake statues at Trump Gaza of Trump sitting on a throne or something.
Then we have Elon eating food at Trump Gaza.
And then Elon is throwing money in the air and making it rain.
A small child is holding a giant gold balloon of Trump's head on it.
Children are catching the money that Elon threw.
Then there's like a...
Then there's a 50-foot-tall statue of Trump in gold in the middle of this Trump Gaza.
And then the movie ends with Trump and Bibby in swim trunks lounging by a pool.
And my favorite part about that is both Trump and Bibby are very fat in their pool trunks.
But when you have the 50-foot-tall Trump gold statue, that's Ozempic Trump.
The sculptor was like, yeah, I'll shave 60 pounds off Donnie for the statue.
I know I love that because you'll either get him with Rocky Balboa's body or Robert Redford's body.
Yes.
Yeah, just absolute brain worms.
This is just like the most Insane shit.
And it just goes to show that the man will let Dan Scavino just take over his fucking social media platforms and post whatever the fuck they feel like.
Whatever brainworm adult slop they want to put there, they'll do it.
And the media isn't going to call it out.
Anyone who talks about the liberal media makes me so angry because if any other politician or president in the history of America did this shit, people would be demanding they be institutionalized immediately.
Like, remove this guy from office yesterday.
Question.
Yes?
Do you think that Gavino is running the White House Twitter?
Probably.
The way it's been going lately, yeah, I would not be surprised.
I just got that ASMR video.
Did you see that?
I forgot about that.
Yes.
That was the most bizarrely, but...
I'm sorry I laughed about it because it's horrible and terrible.
I just want to get that out there.
I'm not laughing at the video.
I'm laughing at how I just memory hold it as soon as I saw it.
No, it's an absurdist...
Form of words.
The ASMR deportation video.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I was like, who the fuck is running this account?
Like, holy shit.
This is like...
Yeah.
Sorry.
I'm trying to remember now what I was going to...
Oh, yeah.
Somebody earlier...
You were talking about the media.
Somebody earlier...
Said that the media is complicit in everything Trump's doing.
And I said, it's not a matter of complicity.
They're terrified of losing access.
They know if they push back on Trump, if they say anything critical, then he's going to say, well, you're not allowed in any of my pressers anymore.
And that's pretty much a death sentence for anyone trying to cover the White House.
So it's...
Because any other politician, they know, I'll push back and he'll still let me show up at the White House tomorrow.
But Trump, he's so thin-skinned that if we don't lick his boots, then we're persona non grata.
Also, the idea of the liberal media is so funny because it's like Washington Post, which is ran by Jeff Bezos, who just told them that they can no longer write articles against the free market.
Or liberal outpost CNN, which is owned by a Trump supporter.
Yeah.
Like not even trying to hide a Trump supporter.
It's not like he's secretly sent to money or anything.
And who is that?
I'm trying to remember, what newspaper was it where the editor asked his staff to pray for Trump?
Politico, I think.
That's so funny, too, because Politico is getting dragged through the fucking goddamn mud right now.
Because of the Doge stuff, they claim that...
Oops, sorry, the kid's right there.
I always do that.
I'm so sorry.
Jesus, Haley, put your tits away.
We have the kids on the camp.
Oh my god.
But if you're on the right, you currently think that Politico was just a big op.
To create disinformation for the liberals.
And launder money for the deep state.
Yeah, all of it.
Meanwhile, the guy who owns politicals is like, pray for Trump's victory!
He will be our glorious salvation!
This is like, oh my god.
The other thing I was going to say about that was that...
The media not wanting access, but during the campaign, they put their thumb on the scale quite aggressively to get Joe Biden out of the race because he was all decrepit.
And then, now the Democrats have sparkling, brand new, young Kamala Harris in the race, and her opponent is an old man rambling about sharks and electrocutions and Hannibal Lecter.
The media was just like, well, they shot at him, so we can't be mean to that, man.
Some idiot tried to put a bullet in him.
I think a lot of that, too, is the fact that it all comes out of the bottom line.
They know that if they put Trump on a camera, it's going to be ratings gold.
You know, so it's not necessarily that they want him to be president because they like what he's going to do.
They want him to be president because they want to have this reality star who knows how to work an audience getting them, you know, their Nielsen share.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, he's ratings cold.
It's just, it's just like, man, I really, it's just so...
It's crushingly depressing that these people are so willing to just cast the rest of us to the wolves in the hope that in our frustration, in our outrage at being cast to the wolves, we will tune in to their stupid television shows and give them a little ratings bump.
It's like, yuck.
Yuck, yuck, yuck.
And then there's also, it seems like a lot of viewers are...
I don't have a very long-term memory because I remember when everyone was raging against Joe Scarborough and Mike Brzezinski or whatever her last name is going down to Mar-a-Lago.
They're like, oh my god, they're kissing the ring.
I'm like, have you guys been paying attention?
They've been kind of low-key supporting Trump since the beginning.
I'm not sure why this was a surprise that they did this.
Yeah.
I like that we did the episode backwards this week.
Yes, we did.
Yes.
Well, this time, we were laser-focused on the goal.
We had our eyes on the prize.
Yeah, we wanted to talk about Flat Earth so bad, we were just chomping at the bit.
Just couldn't help ourselves.
It's because we have too much of that substance that makes reality Cuckoo Bananas changed our podcast episode to be in reverse time.
Yes.
Aether, Soma, whatever you want to call it.
Yes, Aether.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Well, so that's going to wrap it up for this week.
Thanks, everyone, for listening.
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Give me money.
I'm broke.
My insurance company is probably rejecting my claim for Wagovi.
I'm going to have to go to the fucking black market on the internet.
Which isn't even a black market.
It's just a bunch of lying assholes who are like smeglitude or however you say it.
But don't correct me.
I think how you make it sound like smegma.
That was awesome.
How do you say it then?
I don't.
Right, exactly.
It's goddamn Klingon.
The active ingredient in what Govino-Zempic is fucking Klingon.
I just call it GLP-1.
Right.
Well, anyhow, I'm going to have to go on the black market on the internet for these GLP-1s, and they all fucking lie.
They're all like, $40!
And when you go to the website, it's like, sign up for this $500 subscription to get the access to the drugs.
And it's like...
Can I just get the drugs without the subscription?
They're like, no!
Hard pass, no!
The good news is that Silk Road should be back up any day now.
Oh, yeah!
Great!
Oh my god!
I live only to get raided by Trump's FBI agents when I buy a bunch of Ozempic off the Silk Road, and it turns out it was like a honeypot.
I'm like, oh, yeah, when I'm at Club Fed, I'm going to be sitting there with a bunch of other middle-aged white dudes.
This guy's going to be like, yeah, I robbed my company for a quarter million dollars.
What did you do?
I'm like, I tried to score some Ozempic off the internet.
They shut me down right quick for that.
Yeah, from a guy that Trump pardoned.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, so anyhow, yeah, so I need money.
I need my drugs.
I'm a large, limpy boy.
Send him Bitcoin so he can buy stuff off the...
Yes, give me Bitcoin so I can buy my Zempick off the Silk Road without going to jail, even though that's not true.
Bitcoin still gives a paper trail.
I could totally get arrested.
Ah, but anyways, I need money for that shit, because fuck RFK Jr. and all the fucking insurance companies.
Anyhow, if you don't want to give me money for my Ozempic, please don't go to love146.org and give them money to fight human trafficking, because that's probably a little more important than my tubbo cuts.
Beyond all of that, thanks to Frosty for doing the bumps.
Thanks to DJ Minimal Effort for giving us the original song that I accidentally remixed.
Thanks to our audience for listening to us.
Thanks to Eric and Haley for being here this week.
Thanks to Steph.
He'll be back next week, I'm sure.
Thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks.
We're going to keep saying that word a million times more.
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