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March 3, 2025 - Adventures in HellwQrld
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Adventures in HellwQrld Presents: Phase 1 of Epstein, The Trainwreck

Our Episode on Flat Earth will be out by Wednesday afternoon. Enjoy this bonus episode about the train wreck that was the release of the Epstein Files. Mike and Haley go over all the QAnon and right wing grifter outrage over the fact that Tom Hanks has yet to face justice. Get bonus content on PatreonSupport this show http://supporter.acast.com/hellwqrld. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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The Adventures in Hellworld podcast talks in-depth about QAnon.
While it's meant to be comedic informative, sometimes we have to get into things like child abuse and violence against people.
Listener discretion advised.
Hello, everybody.
I am Mike Raines, a.k.a.
Poker and Politics.
And this week I am joined only by Chaley, a.k.a.
Haley, a.k.a.
Arizona Right Watch, because this is not this week's episode.
It's a bonus episode!
Bonus episode.
We were so, you know, not...
You know, I don't want to say excited.
I don't want to put us in the, like, I don't want to act like we were, like, smiling ear to ear, like Chaya Raychak and Jack Posobiec and everybody when they received smiles.
We weren't just pigs in shit being like, this is the best day of my life, talking about children that were abused by a child sex trafficking monster.
But the fallout of just how people have reacted was so...
Hilarious that we could not run to our computers and talk about it.
Right.
This was a really stupid and hilarious series of events.
So, if you haven't been following QAnon, which, if you're listening to this pod, God help you, I don't know how you found us, but God bless you.
Basically...
QAnon is an alternate reality conspiracy theory that is all about win conditions and lose conditions.
And when a lose condition is met by the enemy, they immediately ignore it and move on to the next thing that will make them lose and the next thing that will make them win.
And so on.
And one of the innumerate win conditions that QAnon has for the destruction of their enemies, the fall of the deep state, and the unleashing of world peace and global prosperity is the Epstein list, which is a fantasy.
It is a work of fiction.
That has been conjured by right-wing lunatics for the past, I don't know, like five years.
Ever since Epstein killed himself, which he did.
I mean, I think Epstein was more along the lines of, like, his lawyer walked in and was like, buddy, it would be better for everybody if you got the check.
So, yeah.
And then Epstein looked at it and was like, yeah, I was a billionaire.
Now I'm going to be in solitary for the rest of my life.
Fuck this.
And decided to exit stage left.
That was kind of my thinking on it.
It was just a guy who never faced punishment for his crimes and was regularly getting his balls licked on his private island now about to actually go away for some time.
I don't have a here or there on it.
It's just like I can see somebody killing themselves in that condition.
Yeah, you literally go from a life of opulence and decadence beyond a human imagining, where your every indulgence is fulfilled whenever you want it to, because you can do anything you fucking want.
And then you pivot from that to now you are in a 8x10 cell, and you're going to be in there probably for the rest of your life.
If you're really lucky, maybe you only spent 10 to 15 years in there.
And you just say, you know what?
I ain't dealing with this shit.
Fuck that.
I mean, I personally, Mr. fucking middle class schmuckity schmuck that I am, I think if somebody grabbed me and threw me in a cell and they were like, yeah, it's not looking very good that you're going to get out of this cell, I'd be like, maybe getting the check here isn't that bad of a call.
I don't know that I want to deal with this.
I don't think prison's going to work out for me too well.
Also, I think when a lot of people have the idea in their mind that Epstein was murdered, it's not by random guard.
It's more like Hillary Clinton herself or Trump himself, whichever way you line on it.
There is very highly fantastical conspiracies about What happened to Epstein?
Also, just, you know, definitely not saying there wasn't people that...
The fantasy part, because you said, like, oh, the list is mostly, you know, it's like a fantasy.
Like, there are people that were, like, in Epstein logs, on, you know, in photos with Epstein, like...
Even what was revealed in these mostly censored documents had a lot of names.
But in QAnon world, they always wrap in people that aren't tied to Epstein and say that they're on the flight logs.
They'll say AOC was on the flight logs or whoever they hate is on the flight logs or whatever.
Yeah, the Epstein flight logs are this fantasy thing where people have come up with fake lists.
And my favorite fake list is the one that is done in alphabetical order, but it's by first names, not by last names, because that's how any serious...
Person who would make a list like this would do it.
You would obviously just do it where the first names are we put in alphabetical order.
And then the other thing that is so awesome on this list is that some of the people are in some of the people have their stage names and other people have their real names on the list, which is Which has always made me laugh because Lady Gaga is like Stephanie Germania or whatever her crazy last name is and apologies for butchering that.
But then John Legend is John Legend because they didn't bother looking up what his actual name is.
And it's just like that kind of like real laziness that these people put into it.
I remember...
One of our...
Steph was talking and she was talking about the Epstein list and she was posting these names and she posted Courtney Love's name and then she posted Shirley Mance's name and I laughed about it and then she was like, oh no, I was kidding about Shirley.
And I'm like, I know you were kidding because I know Courtney Love is on the fake lists.
I know of the fake lists.
Akon is on the list as both his stage name and then in parentheses they put his government name on it because they want him to try to make it more serious.
And it was just like, oh god.
It's really funny.
But that list, I literally Haley mentioned it and then I did a quick search and found the fake list.
In this band time, you've heard us in media res talking about this.
So yeah, this was...
Oh, Demi Moore is on the list.
So if she wins an Oscar tonight, oh boy, that'll be the spicy thing that those people can piss and moan about.
It'll be wonderful.
I love this for them.
What is the list of names that actually was released in this binder incident?
Because almost everything was blacked out, but...
There was a list of names that had been previously released before.
It's like the little black book list or something.
Yeah, I think this was the black book list.
Because I know...
Because the flight log list is different than the list we got from this.
This was already released information.
And it actually censored parts that had been already revealed, including this.
So you'll see...
Names on here, like Kennedy, our health and human service secretary guy, and a bunch of his infos blanked out.
This is all already released info, so they blanked out info that was already known to the public.
Yeah, they redacted stuff they did not need to redact.
Yeah, it's ridiculous.
But we should talk about this fiasco a bit.
Um, because it was hilarious.
It was a meeting with, like, 15 or so right-wing, like, far-right fascist, um, influencers, like, propagandists that you see on Twitter always mouthing off.
And they were the ones giving these binders in what was essentially a pageantry, a, like, theater.
Um, Pam Bondi?
Was going on Fox News and all the right-wing channels the day before.
Like, we got them.
You guys are gonna...
There's a smoking gun in this thing.
They're fucked, you know?
You have no idea how fucked they are.
Yeah.
And, like, everybody was so hyped.
Like, tomorrow's the day.
Tomorrow's our Christmas.
Like, right-wing media was so...
Right-wing, like, commentators were so excited about what they were about to get.
And I think we all kind of knew that it was going to kind of play out this way, that they weren't going to give anything new or juicy or really that interesting.
I didn't think they would do it this bad.
They even blew me away.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, this is really, like...
It's incredible that they decided to destroy the credibility of this situation the way they did.
Because the Epstein list, as I said before, is kind of like a win condition for these people where all these bad people are going to be named and they're going to be indicted, then they're going to be arrested.
And the Epstein list is a thing that is...
Gotten mainstream salience.
I mean, not that UFC fighters aren't a bunch of pilled goddamn morons, but you have these UFC fighters after they win a fight going like, and release the Epstein list!
And it's something that has some level of cachet in the It's something that actually has relevance.
And you would think that all you would have to do to get the mainstream media to play ball and to treat this like it had any substance to it would be...
So just have Pam Bondi do a press conference, have a bunch of binders in front of her, and then talk about how the Trump administration is all about accountability and transparency, and we're going to get to the bottom of this whole Epstein thing, and here's this binder, and we're going to release it to the press, and blah, blah, blah.
And I think a lot of people would have...
Run with that because it gets clicks.
It's real easy.
They don't have to do any fucking work.
They're just given a list by the government and they're told to peddle it.
So I just think that...
That would have been such an easy way to get normie buy-in and mainstream media buy-in.
And instead, you've got Jack Posobiec and Libs of TikTok just tee-heeing like schoolgirls as they're waving around binders that are supposed to be about child sex crimes.
And you're supposed to take that kind of fucking seriously.
Like, there were so many QAnon promoters that were furious at the way Libs of TikTok was handling herself at this rally, waving around her sex crime binder.
As though her crush just asked her to prom.
Yeah.
So here's everybody generally that was there that...
I think there might be a couple people that I don't have on here because I've never heard of some of these people, which is, again, shocking.
I feel like for us even not to know who these people are, but this is who they handed off this information to.
So Mike Cernovich, who's pretty...
A key guy involved with Alan Dershowitz, who is, like, tied to Epstein.
And also helped promote Pizzagate.
So someone I feel like shouldn't be trusted with this info.
Libs of TikTok, who just smears queer people for a living, and that's all she does.
Jack Posobiec, QAnon, our, you know, Pizzagate promoter.
Fascist piece of shit.
Liz Wheeler.
She's a podcaster.
I think she just does her own thing.
It might be The Blaze, but I think it's just her own thing.
Scott Pressler, who's the guy who does the early vote action with Turning Point USA and has the really long hair.
Really long hair.
Apparently did some porn.
Is someone that the reputable Republicans have distanced themselves from, but then Trump led all the crazies back into the And Pressler's claim to fame this past year was, or in 2024, was that he was going to register the Amish in such overwhelming numbers he was going to tip Pennsylvania for Trump.
And then Trump just won it without the Amish vote.
So fuck you, buddy.
He didn't do shit.
Yeah, but MAGA World basically credits him.
For Trump winning Pennsylvania, I saw him post-election at AmericaFest and he was like...
The God.
Oh man, they knew God and I was like, I'm kind of glad that he's getting a little smoke from this because I needed him to get knocked down a few pegs.
He was getting too powerful.
But that's the thing.
It just goes to show you the power of branding that he had spent all these years being the guy that gets people to register to vote.
Then they get smoked in 2020, and he's the one guy that was just dusting himself off.
I don't know how much stopped the steal shit he did.
I'm sure he did enough, but he immediately got back on the horse and was talking about getting people to vote for Dr. Oz and working for the midterms, and he's just always on that Republican vote registration grind.
So when Republicans win in a battleground state, he gets to get his flowers.
Even if he didn't earn it, the brand makes people think he earned it.
They're like, oh shit, he was the guy that took Pennsylvania.
He put Trump in the White House.
I mean, hey, good work if you can get it.
Also, listeners, with that in mind, he's currently targeting the Wisconsin Supreme Court because they're having a special election.
And Turning Point USA and Scott Pressler's whole team.
Which has now got the big MAGA money behind it, are targeting your Supreme Court.
So pay attention to that race if you live in Wisconsin.
Yep.
All of our listeners, and I'm sure we have.
Oh yeah, all five of them, yes.
They're all from Wisconsin, though.
Yes.
We are target.
We are target powerful.
We hit where we need to hit.
Other people that were there, Savannah Hernandez, who does like...
You know, she's, like, one of those people that goes to, like, left-wing protests to film just, like, left-wingers and gay people looking too left-wing or gay so she can make rage content media for the timeline for, like, Frontlines, which I think is owned by Turning Point USA now.
Chad Prather, who I've never fucking heard of in my life, and I don't think Mike did either.
Right?
Chad Prather?
You know this guy?
Yep.
No, no Chad Prather at all.
Oh, boy.
How do you not know him?
Oh, my God.
Hilarious.
Sorry.
This just made me laugh very much.
Random thing that I didn't think was going to happen.
And this is a total segue that's derailing the plot, and I apologize.
Okay.
Derail it.
But Andy Block, who is like a big-time poker player guy, just randomly followed me on Twitter, which makes me laugh a lot because...
I've been talking a lot of shit at Daniel Negreanu recently because Daniel Negreanu is now a megachud.
He decided one day to, you know, do the whole, why are we risking World War III? Oh, Ukraine, why are we supporting them?
Shouldn't we be seeking peace?
So I yell at Daniel Granu a lot.
Because I remember when Daniel Granu first became popular and famous, it was because he was the vegan cool guy who played the pokers!
And his mama made him his meals before he went to the World Series of Poker each day to battle for the gold bracelet and the millions of dollars!
And he had frosted tips and he was the cool bro!
And now he's just, over the past 10-15 years, mutated into just your...
Bog-standard Republican sack of shit who, when called out on it, immediately does the, I'm politically homeless!
I don't like everything they're doing!
It's like, fuck you.
You piece of shit.
Which is so funny, because it's like, he's just like a hard-line fascist loser.
Right.
And he's like, I'm a centrist, and I am actually politically on a line, and it's like, please stop.
Please stop.
Like, a white supremacist working in your studio as, like, one of the co-hosts.
But anyway.
Yeah.
Well, enjoy beefing on Twitter.
What also is fun is he's...
Andy appears to be a lib from his timeline, so good on you, Andy.
Hope we can have a chat.
But, yeah, that just made me laugh.
So...
So we had the big payoff, that all these right-wing grifters get their dumb binders full of nothing.
Wait, I have to come a few more names.
Name those pricks.
I didn't know this.
Name DC Drano for us.
I didn't know this.
His name is Rogan O'Handley?
Yes.
Rogan O'Handley.
Gosh, it'd be Gora.
I'm waving around my sex trafficking binder like a wee little leprechaun that I am.
He was like, he was doing like fist pumps when he was walking out.
He was like, you got him.
We are heroes.
Oh, he was one of the ones that posted the tweet where it was like the coordinated talking point tweet that ended with the line, people are going to jail for this.
And I was like, when?
When are they going to go to jail?
When is fucking any of this shit going to happen?
When does your win condition resolve in victory for you?
Because it seems like it never will.
It seems like you're just fucking lying to me.
A couple Twitter guys got binders.
Colin Rugg, who's just like a guy on Twitter.
He acts like he's presenting the news, but has obviously got a right-wing slant.
Alex LaRusso, who's like at A on Twitter.
He's just the A. He's like an Elon kiss-ass.
Emily Austin, who's like this really pro-Israel, pro-IDF commentator.
And then Jessica Reed Krause, who Mike and I didn't know about really before this.
She seems to be kind of like a conspiracy theorist in the celebrity sphere, like Hollywood exclusive kind of conspiracy.
She's a mommy blogger, gossip blogger.
But, like, was kind of, like, part of the Free Britney thing, but, like, took a conspiratorial slant on it.
Really involved in, like, Amber Heard smear kind of popularity.
And is currently, like, on some other...
She's, like, pro-Weinstein, which, for those of you who don't know, that's gonna be a thing soon.
Like, Candace Owens is gearing up a whole pro-Weinstein series.
And apparently she attended the trial of Ghislaine Maxwell and wore a free Ghislaine shirt.
Yeah, that's great.
That's a sign that you're someone we should listen to.
But yeah, that's basically everybody who got a binder as far as we know.
Yeah.
So instead of, again, just having Pam Bondi grimly, solemnly...
Talking about these binders and then feeding them to the press and moving from there.
This was a field trip for a dozen or so right-wing grifters to get some camera time and to put some shit on social media about how I got an Epstein binder!
Have you a single person or a small company?
Then you're probably going to hear me talk about how easy it is to send a facture with FIKEN.
So we're here.
FIKEN – Super-enkelt regnskap!
The rest of the right-wing and QAnon grifter communities were not happy with this shit.
They were like fucking pissed.
And that was, it was really funny.
It was just really funny watching how people reacted to this immediately.
So these, the schmucks get their binders, they run out.
They run out to the press, and I grabbed a series of tweets from the situation, and we begin with QAnon John, because I'm deadnaming you, QAnon John.
You're not your current name.
You got the message to stop calling yourself QAnon John because Q said to stop doing that.
I don't care.
I know who you are.
And he said, We
then pivot to Laura Loomer, who had a lot to say about fucking everybody.
Laura Loomer crashed out hard during Epstein Files Day.
She says, I can't trust anything in the binder.
Neither should you.
MKTruthUltra, generic QAnon grifter schmuck, has a photo.
It was a video, and it had Libs of TikTok doing her little dance, and Rokino Henley waving his binder, and some others.
And he says, maybe I'm just old-fashioned, but imagine holding in your hands a binder with horrific pedophile crimes, and you're smiling like you're going to prom.
And then, finally, Ian Carroll, who did a lot of pivoting on this shit.
Ian's initial jump was definition of a fumble.
Everything in those binders should be online in PDF format already.
Then you can have your influencer parade if you want to burn your optics down again.
If any of these people are real journalists, they will put the entire contents online.
And then there's a show morph button that I didn't hit, because fuck Ian Carroll.
Ian Carroll...
He's unfortunately becoming incredibly popular on the right also.
He's very openly anti-Semitic.
And his podcast that he did about this and the angle that obviously the griper slash more anti-Semitic right took was that a bunch of the people involved in this were Jewish, therefore...
You know, working for Mossad or whatever bullshit, anti-Semitic conspiracy shit.
Oh, it's always Mossad at the end.
It's always Mossad.
I liked this tweet from Abby Libby, who is the host of the Conspiracy Pilled.
She's like just a conspiracy, right-wing conspiracy lady.
Short one.
What a horrible, humiliating, and demoralizing day to be a conservative.
Got him.
Got him!
I think, because, okay, another person that spoke out pretty immediately was Kylie Kremer, who, she basically helped organize January 6th.
She was the lady that organized the rally at the eclipse, at the ellipse.
And was like a big funder into the January 6 rallies.
She's like a Fox News producer, a former Fox News producer, and now does like her own producing.
But she spoke out against this, and this is also the angle a lot of right-wingers seem to be taking.
This is the deal.
Pam Bondi lied.
Whether it was nefariously with malicious intent or naively and stupidly because she wanted to look like she was more informed.
She said she had the Epstein files on her desk, but the worst part is she said she had read the Epstein files.
She also stated that there were sick people in the files after reading.
Pam Boddy lied each way you look at it.
I've seen people calling for Pam to resign, which would be interesting if we end up with Matt Gaetz anyway.
It's just like...
Oh, that'd be so great!
The pedophile scandal...
Leads us to getting the pedophile AG on the day that Trump was like, hey, those trafficking pedophiles, Tate Brothers, can come home.
It was just a big day for pedophiles, I guess.
I guess that it makes sense that Kendrick Lamar did the Super Bowl this year and kind of opened the new year with the pop, pop, pop, pop, pop.
Oh, yeah.
You know?
Yeah, we've mentioned that on the pod.
There were people that thought the Kendrick Super Bowl halftime show was the White Hats letting everybody know that the deep state pederasts were about to face justice.
This is another angle that I've been seeing, and this is in The Matrix talking about it, but I saw a lot of other people kind of taking this angle.
He's asking if the DOJ was sabotaged by the Southern District of New York and the FBI. Everybody's currently passing the football.
Because Anna Paulina Luna and her team of other lawmakers were like...
What was her assigned role?
Mike, like, what was her, like, job title?
I have no idea.
I'm, like, totally lost on her.
She was the one that was, like, in charge of kind of releasing the files.
Oh, you're talking about, like, oh, the JFK lady?
Yeah, Anna Paulina Luna.
Yeah, no, but, like, the thing is, is, like...
Her thing was that she was going to hold hearings at some point in the near future.
And she seemed to be just on the JFK side.
And then she comes out to freak out about this thing and claims that she got hoodwinked or bamboozled by Pam Bondi and what happened here today.
I mean, it was such a strange thing.
The left hand didn't know what the right hand was doing.
How was no one coordinating?
Like, the only people who coordinated were the Twitter people who were posting the same tweet about people going to jail!
Yeah, because, okay, so I think that, like, the JFK task force that Anna Paulina Luna is in charge of is, like, unencompassing, like, it encompasses, like, JFK, the assassination of Martin Luther King, and the assassination of RFK, and the Epstein files.
So, like, the task force that she oversees, like, is semi-tied to this.
And then she assigned, like, a whole committee to, like, oversee the task force.
So it's, like, one of my representatives was part of it, Eli Crane.
And they're supposed to, like, for the JFK stuff...
They said they were going to go to the site.
Oh my god, that was...
Oh man, that made me roll my eyes so goddamn hard.
They actually saw my brain.
I actually saw my brain through my eyes when they rolled back there that far.
There's no evidentiary value of going to Dealey Plaza.
There's none.
You're just literally...
I did it.
You did it.
We did it together.
You can go to Dealey Plaza and just look at the road where Kennedy got shot.
And that's it.
You're not going to find a bullet laying on the ground 60 years hence from the assassination.
She said they were going to interview witnesses, too.
It's like, who?
Who?
Who waiting?
They're just hanging out?
They've been waiting?
Yeah.
I mean, everyone who was involved was probably in their 20s when that happened, and now they're in their 80s.
They've all told their story before.
You're not getting anything new.
I mean, the only person I can think of who might not be in their 80s is Rosemary Willis, who, like, if you are a normal human being, if you are, I don't know, 99.9% of our audience, you have no idea who that is.
But Rosemary, it was, on the Zapruder film, a little girl wearing a red dress and a white hoodie.
And she's running along the street opposite where Zapruder's filming.
So Zapruder's on the left-hand side of the street.
She's on the right-hand side of the street.
And obviously she's a small child and the president is riding by her in a limo.
So she's chasing after the limo.
And then at a certain point...
You see Rosemary stop running, and she looks in the general vicinity of the Texas School Book Depository, and she testified that she did that because she heard a noise.
And it's very obvious, because a young child wouldn't stop running after the president unless something actually startled or spooked them.
So that's like a big visual cue you can get from the Zapruder film, like, oh, a gunshot was fired.
Even though the president is still smiling and waving like a dum-dum, someone just tried to kill him.
So it's like, you could interview her in her 60s now, the spry young chick that she would be in comparison to every other witness to the assassination, because they were all adults, basically.
So it's just, like, you are offering nothing to us.
Just release the documents that they withheld.
That showed that JFK got pegged by a Russian, by a Soviet spy, and he gave her all the nuke codes, or whatever it is.
That's the thing that everyone asks.
What are they hiding?
And I'm like, they're hiding the worst shit about Kennedy.
That's my dream.
My dream is that we just find out the worst things about JFK. He's on the Epstein list.
That's what we find out.
Somehow, someway, JFK via time travel was on Epstein Island.
Or he founded it!
He actually started building that weird temple pyramid thing.
It was his home away from home when he wasn't living in Massachusetts.
That's why they took him out.
That's why they took him out.
They were like...
Oh my god!
We now make the deep state the fucking good guys in the Kennedy assassination.
You got all these just stoic, somber, conservative Americans in the intelligence industry.
And they got the picture of Kennedy on the corkboard of all these arrows pointing to it.
And they're like, we gotta take this fucking kiddie diddler out.
We can't let him run this country any fucking longer.
And that's when they did it.
They fucking did it.
Some of his ancestors, some of his later family line seems to be on the little black book that was even released in this pathetic mostly...
Oh, we forgot to mention.
Almost everything's redacted.
Maybe I did mention it, but it's just so funny.
Almost everything's redacted in these binders.
Yes, the binders are literally nothing but redactions.
It's previously released information, but there are, in the Little Black Book section, they redact all the personal information, which is already released.
But you can see the names.
And as far as Kennedys, we got Ted Kennedy Jr., Ethel Kennedy.
Do you know who this one is?
Ethel Kennedy was RFK's wife, so that's interesting.
Joe Kennedy?
You know this one?
Joe Kennedy is just a younger Kennedy.
He's just one of the kids.
I'm trying to remember if he was the one that tried to run for Senate and then suddenly all the liberal lunatics in our state decided that Ed Markey was literally Bernie Sanders reincarnated and we stuffed Mr. Kennedy into a locker and now nobody likes Ed Markey because he's like 98 years old and planning on running for re-election the next time his term is up.
Well, better than the guy on the Epstein list, maybe.
Yeah, maybe.
Let's see.
Senator Edward Kennedy?
Oh, that's Teddy.
That's just Ted Kennedy.
Oh.
And what is this?
Kerry Kennedy?
Oh, I don't know that.
I don't know them.
Okay.
Well, oh, and then Bobby and Mary Kennedy.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then Mr. Donald Trump is not listed right here, but Ivanka and Ivana are, so...
It's just, you know, it's like, oh gee, why would they not want to release more information on the Epstein files?
Why would they not want to release more information?
What's so funny about all this shit was that literally when they were, when like Fox or whoever was talking to Trump about this shit, and they were just like, So, um, you're gonna release the JFK stuff?
And he's like, yeah, I'll release the JFK stuff, the RFK stuff.
I don't know about the Epstein stuff.
I might need to keep that under wraps.
And just people just buried their heads in the sand and pretended he didn't say that because they can't admit that Orange Daddy fucking hip deep in the fucking Epstein shit.
So, I mean, what can you do?
Okay, so basically all these influencers, all these fascist propagandists that got the binders, I mean, immediately were getting called out by everybody, including their own fan base.
And it didn't help that the House GOP shared a...
I know, I know, Mike's face.
That was me when I... I literally triple-checked.
I'm like, is something...
Am I getting trolled by like an alt GOP account that's memeing right now?
And they deleted it after like a day.
Listeners, if you didn't see this, the house GOP Twitter account, X account, basically posted just like, here's the Epstein files with a link.
And guess what the link was?
It was a rickroll.
It was a fucking rickroll.
Just...
I... Literally, my...
This morning, I... I got into a fight with...
I'm trying to get better.
I'm trying to do better to people, I swear.
Spoiler alert, I'm not getting better.
I will always fight with people on the internet about everything.
I don't care.
But I literally got...
I'm literally ongoing.
This podcast is denying me my precious internet fighting with a person who's doing the whole Democrats are bad.
Democrats never do anything.
They always suck.
This idea, this concept that Democrats...
We create a villain, a Joe Manchin.
and a kristin cinema or whoever and we let them take the blame so that we the democrats can never do anything that we want to be ineffective and weak that that is our goal in life is to be bad and and thus like we shouldn't support the democrats because that's their objective you should yeah but the point of what my argument was is that if the democrats ever gave a block of their voting base a fuck you
the way the republicans did to their voting base with this move with this Oh my god, I would never fucking hear the end of it from people who hate Democrats.
Because this, like, the QAnon people, the Save the Children people, people who just earnestly wanted justice for Epstein's victims, all of them Got told to go fuck themselves by the congressional Republicans.
It was crazy!
I just couldn't believe it.
It was such an unbelievable insult to their own people.
Like, I'm completely okay, and I literally wake up every day of my life expecting to log on and seeing Republicans.
And Republican elected officials posting shit about, fuck you weak damn cucks, Trump's your president, and we're going to make America great again whether you like it or not!
Slur of some kind here to finish the fucking tweet.
And that's just the way it works, because Republicans are feral animals who attack their enemies.
But the fact that the Republican congressional people decided, you know who are the real morons today?
Our voters.
The people that put us into power.
We need to give them a nice, hard thumb in the eye.
Just wham!
Just, just, hey, how you doing?
Ah, you enjoying that cup of coffee, huh?
Wham!
There, thumb right in your eye.
Just bam!
Just crumpled to the ground, clutching your eyeball in pain as I laugh at you and start, and rip your wallet out of your pocket and walk away from you.
Have you saw the responses to that post, too?
It was like, hot comment, brick suit.
You know, like, hard MAGA people.
Like, MAGA loyalists.
MAGA's ass suckers that are just like, what?
What's happening?
What's happening?
You know?
And also, it is just completely fucked up.
It's like, okay, ultimately, ultimately, everybody, this is a conversation about young teenagers, young children who were being trafficked by wealthy elites and We're talking about a sex trafficker.
And, like, getting rickrolled, giving it to these fucking...
I don't think we can just, like...
There's no string of words that can describe what kind of shitbag, like, propagandist pieces of shits that were given these binders to, like, do this theater.
Like, Jack Posobiec, libs of TikTok, has...
Chaya Raychuk is responsible for bomb threats at children's hospitals.
She targets hospitals for them providing gender-affirming care and they get a flood of her crazed followers calling in, calling threats.
That's her whole thing.
And when she got that write-up, it was like...
Where libs of TikTok posts bomb threats follow or whatever.
It was about how it was the pattern of when she posts things and targets certain institutions, they then get targeted by domestic or just in general right-wing terrorists.
Her profile picture on her personal account, on her personal Twitter, is her holding up that That newspaper.
She's like, yes, this is what I do.
I like that my brand is enacting terrorism against queer children, LGBTQ children, and the doctors that provide them care.
And it's like, that's who got a binder.
Jack Posobiec.
I don't think we need to explain how tied to the Pizzagate lies.
It's just like...
People that lie about other people were handed this information.
Yeah.
So Liz Wheeler came out after this and we had to start rerouting where we were going to place our blame and rage.
Liz made a tweet that states, So,
this is the new boogeyman.
It's the Southern District of New York.
Like, they are the new bad guys.
They're why we didn't get to crush Epstein.
We now have to defeat them in order to save the world and make America great again.
And that's how this always works.
There's always a new villain who's denying the truth to us.
There's always a new bad guy who is somehow, someway keeping us from finally bringing justice to the baby eaters.
Yeah, she made another post that starts, this is the story, which is so funny because it is just a made-up story.
And she says, President, I won't read this whole thing, but just to further highlight how the Southern District of New York is the new bad guy here, and they're the ones revealing and hiding information.
President Trump and AG Pan Bondi committed to releasing the Epstein files.
The FBI was told to deliver the files to Bondi.
They did, about 200 pages.
Bondi smelled a rat, because there was nothing juicy in the 200 pages.
Just flight logs and a Rolodex of phone numbers, no smoking gun.
Still, Bondi promised to release the documents so she prepared a binder in them.
Then, last night, a whistleblower contacted Bondi and revealed that the Southern District of New York was hiding potentially thousands of Epstein files defying Bondi's orders to give them all the work.
We're talking recordings, evidence, the juicy stuff, names.
The swamp creatures at the Southern District of New York deceived Bondi, Cash, and you.
You, folks.
She continues on for quite a while because the demon Elon removed character limit, but there's a much more elaborate story in there, so that's kind of what they're going with now.
Oh, yeah.
You've got to come up with something.
You've got to come up with something.
That's how this works.
Unfortunately, too, I mean, you know, the next day was like the Zelensky meeting with Trump.
And that kind of overtook the news.
So I feel like they're trying to blow over their mistake and just kind of talk about that now.
Oh, Ian Carroll is trying to do a weird pivot.
We'll see how it actually plays out.
I mean, at the end of the day, he's just going to be an anti-Semite and a MAGA bootlicker.
Ian Carroll's been doing this stuff on his timeline where he's just saying, nope, not going to talk about all the Zelensky shit.
I'm sticking to the Epstein stuff because I want answers.
I want answers to this Epstein stuff.
Which, that's how you do branding.
That's how you stand out from the crowd.
So, way to grift, asshole.
Good grifting job.
So, we'll see.
But the thing that is kind of funny about it is that while that's a good way to grift and it's a good way to get people to care about you, the problem is, is at the end of the day, there is no Epstein list.
Nothing is going to happen.
So, you're going to have to turn against Trump at some point.
Or you're just going to have to lie and claim that the Southern District of New York or the...
Guy who's running that district is the new bad guy.
We've got to arrest him to save everybody and all that kind of shit.
And, I mean, I don't know.
I just don't know how much juice you're going to have going after James E. Dennehy.
D-E-N-N-E-H-Y, however you say that last name.
I see a post from another QAnon promoter that says, Make Tar and Feathering great again!
And it's like...
What the fuck are you talking about?
Aren't we supposed to arrest these people legally and above board?
Why the fuck are we doing extrajudicial torture?
What the fuck is that all about?
Also, it's like, you know, there are, like, even in these heavily redacted binders that they release, there's, like, there's people in there.
That we could talk about, but the right doesn't want to talk about those names.
So the outrage machine is just more profitable.
And it's more profitable to just lie about who's on the list, because it's just like...
Or who's on these logs, who's in the little black book log.
It's just easier to...
Just say that every celebrity in the world is basically on this list, and every politician that you hate is on this list, and every person that talks back to me on Twitter is on this list.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, God.
I mean, well, that's my life.
I just wake up in the morning, log on to Twitter, and get called the pederast because I dare to ask.
I'm like, hey, do you have any evidence that Adam Schiff rates children?
Why are you covering for Adam Schiff?
Are you a fucking pedo?
I'm like, no, I just want to know what evidence you have against him.
That sounds like what a pederast would say.
It's like, oh, okay, great.
I'm glad to know that's where we're going with this.
Glad to know this is the kind of trenchant analysis we're going to have about this issue, is you are just going to scream at me that I'm a pederast.
Because I just want to know what...
Your information is, because you don't want to tell me.
And it's just, that's just them.
It's just the magical people that we live with.
I also saw, like, some right-wingers.
I think there's, like, okay.
So I think there's, like, a segment of right-wingers who actually genuinely, like, were upset.
Like, because it's something that a lot of people...
I don't think the MAGA administration, the Trump administration, realized how passionate some people actually are about the Epstein files.
Right.
And just Epstein stuff in general.
Yeah.
But I think there's also a lot of the MAGA influencers like Loomer who are just like, they've been iced out and they are going to be pissed about anything.
Loomer doesn't care about the Epstein.
They are currently burning everything down.
I made Mike listen to her new rap.
Oh my god.
Laura Loomer went at Ashley St. Clair over Ashley talking about her child.
Loomer is just insane.
Those three minutes of my life, I'm not getting back.
They were very bad.
And, yeah, it's just really not great that Laura Loomer was busy talking about Ashley Sinclair having sex with Elon Musk, which she didn't.
It was in vitro.
All of Elon's kids are from in vitro, basically.
I think they said that he had sex with Grimes for, like, one of their kids, and that was it.
According to the court documents of Ashley Sinclair, where she's filing for paternity right now.
She's filing for full custody and she wants a paternity test to prove that Elon is the fuzzer.
According to her, they fucked.
Oh, okay.
According to her.
According to her.
And she's putting in a court filing as proof for the paternity.
So I'm like, well, yikes.
Yikes.
I don't know which one's worse.
I think that Shivone Zillis or whatever her name is, the one that's the head of Neuralink that's had now four of his children as of this weekend.
I think all of hers are IVF. I think they're pretty open about that.
Some of Grimes' kids, I think, are IVF, because Grimes has three with him.
But X, I think, is not.
I don't know.
I don't know.
A lot of them are IVF, though, which is like, that's why I think a lot of them are boys.
Oh, God.
I think it's incredibly obvious that Elon is breeding for gender.
And, yeah, that's...
What's fun about that is that no one's going to talk about that in the right-wing community because that gets into the whole thing about women having abortions when they're finding out they're having the wrong gendered child.
And that's bad!
You can't kill a baby for...
Meanwhile, Elon is being told, we have a viable female ready for fertilization.
She's in the trash.
She displeases me.
Male babies only can carry my glorious seed.
That's something people have brought up a lot about this, is that whenever Elon does all of his dumb, shitty...
Zeke Hyling in public and all the rest of his just being an awkward fuckboy.
Immediately, all of his fans are sitting there saying, oh, but he's autistic!
Oh, he just can't handle everything!
Then you smash cut to him being like, my seed is the greatest seed and it must impregnate as many women on Earth so that the Muskian progeny can dominate the world for a thousand years!
And it's like, well, so what is it?
Is it, are you broken?
Are you mentally incapable?
Are you not normal?
Are you quote unquote on the spectrum or are you the Uber mensch who needs to give everyone your seed so that the world can be made better via more Elons in it?
Um, but yeah, uh, Epstein files.
I love how much that...
Elon breaks everybody's brain.
Haley had, like, no reaction to how fucking weird Elon is.
And I did enjoy the Michael Myers impersonation of Elon, which was very much very obviously that Michael Myers hates Elon a lot and just portrayed him as a giant piece of shit, which...
don't know if that's inaccurate.
So, hey.
Good on you, Mr. Myers.
Although, Elle already stated that please, just stick to being Shrek.
Live action, Michael Myers.
Probably a little past its prime at this point.
Maybe we can do without you.
Do you see that Shrek has been getting transvestigated?
I've just been seeing everyone getting mad at the new models of Shrek.
It's just more...
I mean...
Transvestigating fictional characters is awesome, and I hope that more of these weirdos do more of that, because that is a great use of your time, boys and girls.
Keep it up.
Keep on keeping up.
But I've mostly heard people not being very happy with how the models in Shrek 5 look, that the characters just aren't Shrek.
They're just not right.
So, I'm not a big Shrekologist.
I'm not hip-deep in the Smash Mouth, as it were.
I guess you were a bit older when Shrek came out.
Yeah, I was.
I mean, I watched Shrek 1. Shrek 1 was fine.
I think I may have dipped a toe in the Shrek 2 a little or something, but I haven't been following.
I haven't been keeping up.
I fully acknowledge that.
My Shrek game is weak.
So, everybody, I will not be here on the next episode, the main episode, if you're listening to this, because I am actually going...
I want to say, Mike, I didn't mention this to you.
I think we started something by talking about Nasara.
Yeah, we actually broke reality itself.
Because, like, we talked about Nasara the next week.
I found that...
Two Arizona lawmakers are going to speak at this Crypto, Flat Earth, Nasara conference.
If any QAnon people, QAnon experts know Mel Carmine, he's the host.
He's like a crypto grifter.
And also seems to help run a so-called medbed hotel, which if you guys do the normal episode next week, it'll be about...
Oh yeah, we're doing med beds.
Which will lead into...
I'm going to go to that conference in person in Florida.
I'm going out there.
I'm going to go check out the Floridian Weirdos.
And I didn't realize that the location was basically right.
It's like Cape Canaveral, which is where all the NASA flights happen.
There's like a Space Force Museum.
It's very...
Space-heavy, so I guess it makes sense that these UFO kind of doge kind of conspiracy theorists are hanging out in this area.
So I'm going to go check it out.
I'm going to go party with these people.
Not really, but go check out the event and see what I can find.
And next week, or next next week...
We'll talk about it a bit.
Maybe do a bonus episode where you and Steph and Eric can ask me questions and maybe listeners can ask questions.
Oh, sure.
We'll figure out stuff.
We'll make it happen.
We'll make it work.
The best part about this was that allegedly this was phase one of the Epstein files.
We may be doing phase two and three down the line.
Who knows if they'll...
Managed to pooch screw this even harder than they already did.
And as always, I'm breathlessly awaiting these goddamn JFK hearings, which, boy howdy, are they going to be a giant nothing burger?
But I'm going to just fall over me like a waterfall.
I'm just going to soak it in.
It's going to be so great.
The right is not going to be happy with any of these disclosures because they have...
Way high fantasy shit embedded into what they think happened.
It's not going to say that the Jews did it so the anti-Semitic folks are all going to be upset.
It's not going to say Illuminati lizard people did it.
It's going to be really dry stuff.
I don't really know what they're hoping that the MLK stuff will Fine.
I think they just want it to smear him.
I think they're hoping it'll smear.
I don't know.
I don't know what the conspiratorial right really is into with the MLK stuff.
Well, the conspiratorial right just basically wants evidence that Martin Luther King was an avowed communist and then bad people killed him because reasons.
But the main thing, yeah, the main thing what you just said is the truth is that There's no payoff for any of this for these people.
And Bondi and Puma, or however you say her name, the JFK lady, all of them are going to be making chicken salad out of chicken shit because they got nothing to work with.
And so we'll see.
I mean, it's going to be a magical series of events as all these idiots have spent.
I mean...
Dan Scavino and all these assholes have, I would say about six years, but once QAnon got popular a year in, the Trump people decided, we're going to work with this.
We're going to make this part of our base.
These people are part of our voting bloc, and we want to pander to them.
And now, guess what?
Now you all have to pay it off.
Now you have to give these people something.
And you can't.
Because there's no there there.
The Jews didn't kill JFK. Chucky the typewriter didn't kill JFK. It was a fucking loser communist who beat his wife who happened to see in the newspaper that the president was going to ride by his workplace one day.
And he said, ah, fuck it, I'll take my gun to work and I'll shoot him.
And he did.
And that was it.
Also, I like that the right does...
Every time there's a horrible, tragic event, a horrible mass shooting, if they're not part of the anti-Semitic right, then they're pinning why a leftist did it.
Even if it's the most obvious, like, I love Hitler, I love Trump.
Then it's like, the communist actually does it.
He was such a nerd about communism, he would do debates about the difference between Marx and Marx.
Oh yeah, Oswald!
Yeah, fucking Oswald was so in it to win it!
He'd be being interviewed by news people and they'd be like, sir, are you a communist?
He'd be like, I do not consider myself a communist, I consider myself a Marxist.
They'd be like, oh god.
And the right's like, nope, not this guy.
Not this guy.
This guy who is fucking neck deep into communism.
Couldn't possibly have blown away the president.
No fucking way.
It's like you got one.
You got one of the people that you love to pin things on.
Yes.
And they're like, no.
Nope, no, no.
Hard pass.
Hard pass.
Literally a communist's communist.
The definition of a card-carrying communist.
A guy who loves Karl Marx.
And you're just like, nope, go piss up a rope, Lee Harvey Oswald.
We know that it was somebody else who did this thing.
Yeah, it's great.
Good job, right-wingers.
So yeah, that brings this special episode to a close.
We're going to have more in this vein to tap, I'm sure, because these idiots are not going to stop stepping on their own dicks this whole time.
Absolutely not.
Yeah, one day we'll actually go into Epstein stuff, and there'll probably be Epstein Files Phase 2 to 10. Yep.
Or whatever.
It's gonna be like the Twitter files where the first one or two have some juice to them, and then the rest of them are like Friday night news dumps where they just fucking throw them away.
I feel like everything is the Twitter files now.
It's just like the way that Elon's kind of like doing the like, look, we spent $500 billion on Gaza condoms.
And it's like dumping all this like info on these groups that are just blatant lies, but it's like it's supposed to make you angry.
Yeah, angry.
And yeah.
Yes.
So yeah.
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