Dr. David Jacobs returns to Coast to Coast AM with claims of global UFO abductions, dating back to the late 19th century, where altered human embryos (9–12 weeks) are gestated in tanks before brief returns. He details a hierarchy—praying mantis-like beings at the top, followed by reptilian and gray aliens—with "hubrids," fully human-looking hybrids raised by abductees aged 17–23, now infiltrating society via telepathic control and stolen identities. Jacobs speculates that if humanity avoids self-destruction, these hubrids may eventually dominate governments, though he admits uncertainty about their political awareness. Bell urges ER workers or pregnant women who experienced unexplained fetal disappearances to contact him anonymously for evidence, highlighting the phenomenon’s secretive nature and potential mind-control implications. [Automatically generated summary]
who supplied all the good sound and obviously they know what they're doing right Joe Talbot Kieran Brump Keith my webmaster Heather Wade my producer who works herself to death stream guys lv.net sales Pete Eberhardt Tune-In Radio News Amy Martin of course and my beautiful wife Erin and of course my beautiful daughter Asia eight years old now and
seeming like an adult to me amazing just amazing how quickly they grow all right so there are a couple of things few things I want to talk to you about before we begin it Dr. David Jacobs is coming on tonight for the third time for a very good reason on midnight I think he has made the most compelling case for abductions and I'm afraid the most compelling case for
an invasion of our planet.
I know it sounds crazy.
You just sit back and you listen.
You'll figure it out.
I do want to talk a little bit about this show.
People apparently have the idea that all I do on this show is paranormal.
And, yes, I do a lot of it.
But that is not all I do.
And those of you who remember Back to Coast to Coast probably remember most of the paranormal stuff I did.
But I did a whale of a lot of other stuff.
And if there's something going on in the world, I pay attention to it.
It's as simple as that.
I'm not running with blinders here.
And so I do do other things if I consider them to be really important, of mass interest.
And, you know, I understand that right now you're overloaded with the whole ISIS baloney.
But when the homeland is threatened, when it's begun here, then it's newsworthy.
And I do talk about the news.
So those of you who have memories of Coast to Coast AM, I suggest they're slightly selective.
You know, as memories tend to be, we remember the things we want to remember.
And so I have always done all sorts of things.
I've had country music stars on.
I've done a million different things.
It was not paranormal every night.
Mostly not political, though.
I don't like politics.
I guess you could consider ISIS politics, but I really don't.
I just consider them a threat.
You know, like nuclear weapons or whatever.
They're a threat.
And also, so there is that.
I mean, come on, folks.
Remember back to Coast, the early years.
And you'll know that I did a lot of different things.
And I still will.
If something comes along I think I need to cover, cover it, I shall.
Another thing, people last night thought I support Trump somehow.
I think it's because I quoted something Don Lemon said on CNN.
You know, he was talking about the Trump statement to bar all the Muslims.
And he said something like, not like, he said, I think it's possible that millions of Americans or many Americans in their privacy of their own home are agreeing with Trump.
know I'm a libertarian I right now I I don't I don't find anybody that I get really excited about period so the news and I always do discuss it and it begins with Trump again of course his call to block Muslims from entering the U.S. is being met with a chorus of near-universal condemnation across the country around the globe from the halls of Congress to 10 Downing Street Trump's statement Monday advocating
a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the U.S. was blasted as bigoted unconstitutional and potentially dangerous for American interests abroad well almost everything is dangerous for American interests abroad these days Iran has tested a ballistic missile they did it last month we just find out tonight this is the second such test since the summer's nuclear
agreement.
The State Department said only that it was conducting a serious review of such reports.
The test actually occurred November 21.
According to the official, coming on top of an October 10th test, Iran confirmed at the time, officials said other undeclared tests occurred earlier than that.
But he didn't elaborate.
Just what they need is ballistic missiles to go with the nuclear weapons they don't have because of the agreement right driven by the Paris Terror attacks, the U.S. House voted overwhelmingly Tuesday to tighten controls on travel to the U.S. and require visas for anybody who's been in Iraq or Syria in the previous five years.
So even the U.S. Congress is beginning to make moves as they should.
All right, so coming up in a moment, I think this is a very special show.
David Michael Jacobs is a retired professor of history at Temple University in Philadelphia.
He has also been a UFO researcher since 1966.
In 1973, he completed his doctoral dissertation in the field of intellectual history at the University of Wisconsin-Madison on the controversy over unidentified flying objects in America.
This was only the second Ph.D. degree granted with a dissertation involving UFO-related themes.
He's written and delivered many articles, papers, and addresses on the subjects of UFOs and abductions, has been a consultant to the major UFO organizations from 1977 to 2011.
He taught the country's only regular curriculum university course on UFOs and abductions, UFOs, and American society.
Since the early 90s, he has specialized in the UFO abduction phenomena and has investigated over 1,150 abductions with 150 different individuals.
So come in.
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Yeah, you're here for a reason because I think more than anybody I've talked to, actually in my career, because I remember going back thinking what a breath of fresh air you were in the beginning, that you didn't think all these aliens were the friend of man and meant us no harm, and they were all warm and fuzzy types.
Yeah, actually, my colleague Bud Hopkins, who is one of the great pioneers in abduction research, felt the same way.
But people just, I just didn't hear that from people.
It never materialized in anything I ever did, except once.
It didn't exactly materialize, but a woman who I worked with was very, very, very much into the New Age world, so much so that it was difficult for me even to understand what she was talking about when she talked to me in just a sort of normal language.
But she came once, and then she wrote me a letter.
Well, let me just say, she had a standard abduction event.
You know, they took her out of, actually she's in the middle of New York City, and they did this to her and that to her and this to her and that to her, and then they put her back.
And she wrote me a very angry letter saying that she did not remember what she wanted to remember.
She had it in her mind that something else entirely different had happened.
And she told me something completely different than she had in her mind.
And she blamed it on me for asking questions like, what happens next?
The sister lived on the grounds of the home that the other sister lived.
The other sister was married, the other sister wasn't.
And both of them were abductees because this is an intergenerational phenomenon.
If a person is an abductee and has kids, then all the children will be abductees.
And so they had this abduction, and one of them called the other one up in the morning and said, we were abducted last night, and I remember telling you that I was going to resist and not do anything they wanted me to do.
And I remember you told me that I shouldn't resist because it never works that way, and it's different and you know, it's you can't just say no and that sort of thing.
And the other sister said, yeah, I remember that.
And then you said you were going to do it anyways.
And I said, no, it was just a waste of time.
And then they took up this argument that they had on board the object in the next morning on the phone.
One woman related to me A story about how she had no idea she was abducted or anything like that, but her roommate said, You know, I had this bizarre dream.
I dreamed I saw you coming down through the ceiling and into bed.
And we just a session on that, you know, because that was the oddest thing was it wasn't her memory, it was her roommate's memory.
So that happens once in a while, and of course it happens with family people, family all the time.
And you have to remember also that people are physically missing from their normal environments.
This is not some sort of, I don't know, astral plane type situation where the mind leaves the body and they travel somewhere.
It's not like that at all.
It's a physical event that happens in real time.
It's not like they come back and it's only 10 minutes later and it feels like they've been on board for four hours.
It's not like that.
If they feel like they've been on board for four hours, they've been on board for four hours.
So in these cases where there have been witnesses, one would think that the New York Times, the big mass media, particularly with witnesses, if they stayed around to talk, would have printed this kind of thing up, right?
I know that Bud Hopkins and yourself collect it, but why didn't it hit the mainstream?
Every once in a while, a major event will happen, like the UFO sighted in Chicago at the airport at O'Hare.
At O'Hare Airport.
Or the sighting in Stevensville, Texas.
That sometimes will make the news, but it really is the exception that proves the rule.
I mean, it just, it's an awful situation.
People have very few places to report it except for some UFO organizations.
The United States government, the Air Force, or whatever, will not accept UFO reports from the public.
They just refer them to local organizations.
And they will accept UFO reports from their own pilots because they think maybe they're going to be an intruder of some sort to Russians or whatever.
But other than that, the UFO phenomenon seems to have peaked in the 90s in terms of news attention and in terms of television attention and picked up a little bit in the thousands when cable became huge and the number of stations suddenly became in the hundreds and they had to fill the time.
And now it's sort of dying down again.
But the interesting thing is that the UFO phenomenon is exactly the same as it always was.
Although sometimes people say that they see more triangular-shaped objects and larger objects than they used to in those days.
But nothing has affected the UFO phenomenon itself.
And it's in no relation to the society or what the society thinks or the news media or television or anything like that.
The United States is not the mainstay of UFO sightings.
It happens all around the world, as do abductions.
It's a global phenomenon.
My guess is that it started probably around the same time, maybe last quarter of the 19th century.
But it might have started here first.
They might have gotten here first and then spread out.
I would doubt that.
I would really, really doubt that.
So it doesn't seem to go back much further than the last quarter of the 19th century.
And even then, it's problematic.
So when people talk about ancient aliens and all that, the evidence for that is, well, it's between Slim and none, you know, and as they say, Slim left town.
And of course, in those days, people saw strange things in the sky every night of their lives, practically, because they didn't know what stars were, and they didn't know what meteors were, and they didn't know what this was and what that was.
You know, we just don't know that, and that's probably going to be an unknowable unless they tell us in some way, they being the occupants, as they used to be called years ago in UFO circles.
So we don't really know.
There have been documented cases of animal mutilations, but for what purpose, I can't imagine.
No, and they're all precision surgical cuts and all the rest of that.
But what does make sense to me is that before you would begin doing whatever you're going to do, and we'll talk about that with human beings, you might take a look at what are considered to be lower life forms and look at some of the biology before you start again on the highest part of the chain.
In other words, you might want to take a look at a cow or a chicken or a cat or a dog or whatever before you began looking at humans, the top of the chain.
You know, it is possible that something like that happened way back when, you know, back in the last quarter of the 19th century or maybe the first quarter of the 20th century.
It's possible that my guess is that when they first got here, now we're talking about the abduction phenomenon again.
Well, I actually just remember what I was going to say before.
When these aliens first came here early on, they had to do some sort of study, even when they came here or from afar, to figure out that the life forms on this planet were amenable to them.
Well, you know, table procedures are an extremely important part of the abduction phenomenon.
They're given what we call an examination.
Whether this is an examination or not, we don't know.
But their clothes are removed, they're taken into a room, there's a table there, they get up on the table.
It is not like a table that normally we would consider a table with four legs and all that.
And then there's a series of procedures that are administered to them that are both mental and physical procedures.
We do not know what any of the technologically based procedures are.
They use instruments, they use various kinds of contraptions and this and that.
We have no knowledge of what these things do at all, which is a very interesting idea because, as I've said before, the abduction phenomenon is unlike the UFO phenomenon in that with UFOs, you can be mistaken in what you see.
But with abductions, it's black or white.
You're abducted or it's mental.
It's physical or it's mental.
And if this were mental, people would simply make up what these contraptions are, what these technological machines are doing to them.
If there weren't similarities, we wouldn't be talking.
Not only similarities, they're precisely detailed similarities about specific instruments and things like that that I've heard audient times.
And nobody has the slightest idea what they are.
And nobody outside of me and other UFO researchers have ever heard anything like that.
And so it's procedures that are both physical and mental as well.
In other words, one time I was working with a woman, and she was a young girl at the time, and stop me if I've said this before, and she said that this being was staring at her, and I said, well, you know, what's he staring at?
Is he staring at the fact that you're laying there, assuming he's standing around or something?
And he said, no, no, he's staring.
He's pretty close to me.
I said, well, is he looking at your head or something?
Or your body?
She said, no, no, no.
He's looking in my eyes.
He's looking at my eyes.
I said, well, how far away is he from you?
And she said, well, his forehead is touching mine.
I did figure it out to the best of my abilities, which may be totally and completely wrong, but I did figure it out eventually.
What they're doing there is their eyesight is not exactly the same as ours.
They have different properties.
But they're hooking into the optic nerve, which is the only nerve that can be seen from the outside, from what people tell me, and using it as a conduit to energize any other neural pathways in the brain that they want.
So the correct question to ask people when this happens is, what's going on in your mind willingness?
And they'll say things, well, let's see, I'm seeing a tabletop, I'm seeing a pencil, I'm seeing a dog, I'm seeing a painting, and all these disconnected objects, as you can see that they're just going through memories in some way that are flashing one after another.
Like somebody said they were thumbing through a deck of cards or something.
And they were seeing what this person did in the last few weeks and all that.
And then there's other things.
Well, first of all, I've also had people describe to me different sensations in their body as these people are inside their minds.
You can tell that they're going to different spaces, enervating nerve endings in the spine and this and that.
But there's something else that goes on here, too, unfortunately.
And that is that they can, in fact, stimulate sexual response.
Right, and again, there is a chain here in terms of abductions.
They frequently begin early in life, or dad had one, and now I'm having one, and they continue through life and then even through generations.
But if what you're saying now about sperm and eggs is true, that would make sense because they would be tracking and observing their product, their work.
I suppose, but they're taking those sperm and eggs, they're fertilizing them, adding something to them.
Maybe it's DNA from aliens, maybe it isn't, I don't know, but they are altering that zygote.
They place it back in the woman, and the woman then feels pregnant, is pregnant, and then after a couple of months, the little tiny embryo that is there is removed.
This came from a nurse who we are in discussions with now.
And for reasons that will be obvious, she wants to remain and will remain anonymous, as will the patient in this case.
But I'm beginning to get more of these.
This one stands out.
Hi, Art.
I just wanted to tell you about a patient I recently had in the ER.
It was a young mother who had already presented twice previously since confirming pregnancy 10 weeks ago.
On those visits, she said she felt uneasy about her pregnancy and was concerned for the baby's well-being.
Each time, we did blood work and an ultrasound to confirm that everything was as it should be.
On the third visit, she presented to ER stating that she just didn't feel pregnant.
And could we please ensure that all things were okay?
Upon obtaining blood work, her HCG levels were those of a non-pregnant woman.
Her pelvic ultrasound revealed no fetus, no evidence of a recent pregnancy.
We knew this was not correct because we had recent ultrasounds showing a live single fetus within the uterine cavity.
This time, there was no fetus present.
The patient did not report any signs or symptoms of a miscarriage, just simply quit feeling pregnant.
She was apprehensive about this pregnancy right from the start, and now the pregnancy had vanished to a documented and photographed via ultrasound fetus was now missing.
No sign of it or where it went.
I couldn't help but immediately think of your guest talking about the hybrids, hubrids.
Could this be a case of a pregnancy that was removed from the mother, as your guest had suggested?
She sounded eerily familiar.
So I got that.
When I got it, I called Dr. Jacobs right away, and I said, oh my God, listen to this.
But the thing is, though, that we don't know how they differentiate between any of the maybe sometimes hundreds of fetuses, babies that they have floating in gestational tanks waiting to be taken out.
This is tanks with nutritional material in it, you know, to keep the babies alive, so to speak.
And they're fed through skin absorption, essentially.
No, if they're going to be taken to Earth to live here, they must look absolutely human with no distinguishing characteristics whatsoever that would suggest otherwise.
In other words, what you're looking at here is not simply aliens examining us, aliens studying us.
This is a workforce borrowed and built through human genes and all that, along with alien genes, if they have such things.
And everybody on board a UFO, no matter where UFO is sited or what a UFO is, and there are exceptions to that, but everybody on board is working towards a goal.
In other words, this is not just a study.
They're not examining us.
They're not trying to figure out what makes us tick or anything like that.
And so this has boiled down to a goal-directed, a very carefully thought-out and expertly done program, ultimately to build hybrids.
Well, I've got kind of a bunch of these, but I think this is the one where a woman had elected to have the pregnancy terminated.
She couldn't be pregnant.
She couldn't even have imagined how she was pregnant, but she was.
She had had it confirmed and all the rest of that.
And she elected for a termination.
And if this is the story that I told you, I don't know.
And she was on the table, and the doctor was there, and he started the procedure.
And he kind of stonished and he said, there's no fetus here.
And the nurse who was standing there looked at him and put her finger to her lips and said, shh.
And the woman who was on the table said, huh?
What are you talking about here?
And they put her back down and they continued through the now mock termination procedure because my guess is that everything was a matter of liability at that time.
And because they had already told her she was pregnant and here she is not pregnant.
But she didn't know it.
There was no expulsion of blood that was there.
There was no cramping.
There was nothing like that.
Now, I'm not a gynecologist, and I would assume that some gynecologists would say, well, sometimes it happens that way, and it might be on the toilet, and the person doesn't even know it.
It happens to all women abductees who have OVA ready to be ready.
Now, when I say it happens to all of them who have OVA, well, they all do, because I've had people, kids who are as young as 13 or 14 have eggs taken from them.
And along with all this sexual buildup beforehand and everything, for some of them, it ruins their lives.
They become sexually attached in a strange way to these gray aliens.
And they look for a mate later on who, I had one woman who told me that she saw a guy who was 30 years older than her or whatever it was.
And he was short, he was bald, and he wore big, thick, corn-rimmed glasses.
She fell for him.
She couldn't control herself.
And after she learned about the abduction phenomenon, she realized why.
But it was such an odd thing.
She knew it was odd when it was happening.
And they got married.
And then they lived separately.
But the fact was that it was just an uncontrollable impulse in her, but she was an abductee, and that's how it came out.
Well, there's a variety of different aliens on board.
There's ones who look insect-like, or insectolens, as I call them in my new book.
And they are the ones who are in control.
They are the commanders-in-chiefs.
They give orders.
Everybody else takes orders.
They do not come down and do grunt work like taking abductees up to the UFO.
They do specialized things.
They do some procedures.
But they're the ones who everybody obeys, apparently.
Off to the side, and I'm going to leave these off to the side, there's a small group of ones who look sort of reptile-like, reptilians or reptilins, as I call them.
And they do the same procedures that everybody else does for people.
I'll talk about them a little bit later if you want.
But they are huge on the internet and not huge with abductees.
But then there's gray aliens who come in two types, tall and small.
The taller ones do more of the table procedures that are more complex.
The small ones chauffeur people around from room to room.
They come down and they get abductees, bring them back on board.
They help them get their clothes on.
They get to help them get their clothes off.
They're major figures in this because they will do some procedures themselves, but they have their place.
Well, then there's a whole range of hybrids who are also in the same business of doing everything that the grey beings do.
Early stage and middle stage, late stage, humid stage.
All right, so what I was going to ask is, do you know offhand which species, if we can talk about them that way, we are getting our DNA mixed up with up there?
We don't know where they are putting the egg and the sperm together and altering it in some way.
It's got to be done in an assembly line fashion because this goes on night and day 24-7, taking eggs and sperm and all the rest.
This is just Constant.
And so there has to be an assembly line type of situation with gray aliens or insectolines or reptilins or whatever it is somewhere else, but not in the confines where people are.
So Barthopkins had one person who said that she saw one of these assembly line type things where they were doing diddling with the eggs in the sperm.
But that's only one person saying that, and you need more than one to have some sort of reality to it.
She could have dreamed that or something, you know.
So we don't know anything that goes on backstage, oddly enough.
Even with people who've had long events, three days, five days, there's very little backstage that we know.
Sometimes they'll know a little bit more, but really very little.
They learn as much as they possibly can learn from abductees on board the UFO before they get ready to come down.
However, the amount that they learn from abductees is minuscule, infinitesimal compared to what they are required to know when they finally get here.
In other words, having to wait for a red light to cross the street or what a bottle of Coke is or a can of Coke and how do you open the can and what does it taste like.
And these things you can only learn if you're here because they don't usually take foodstuffs and things like that on board the UFO.
So they have a tremendous, the abductees then take over teaching them when they're here as well and go with them to different places to teach them what a supermarket is or what a doctor's office is like or what a doctor is.
And every single thing that they don't have on UFOs, which is almost everything, they have to learn just like they dropped out of the sky from Mars.
In my latest book, called Walking Among Us, which the title describes exactly what's happening, I guess, I say that the ones who are walking among us, who are actually here, who are living here, I call them hubrits because just to differentiate from hybrids, actually they're hybrids.
Actually, they're aliens.
I mean, they're all aliens in a way.
But the hubrits are so human-looking that you cannot differentiate.
And therefore, just to make sure that I'm clear about who's who and what's what, I use the word hubrids for the ones who are actually moving in and living here and staying overnight in their apartments, that sort of thing.
Now, there is one difference between hubrids and humans.
They can control us and we cannot control them.
When on board a UFO, all people, all humans are under control for most of the time.
Every once in a while, somebody breaks loose and runs down the hallway and all that.
But it's unusual and most of the time, they're under tight control neurologically.
Everybody who speaks on the UFO speaks telepathically.
There is no sounds.
There's no music.
There's no patter of people talking.
And there's no nothing.
It's just sort of silent with people shuffling along and instruments clanging and this and that.
And abductees start teaching them on board the UFO, and then when they come down, oftentimes they come down as a child or two with a hybrid caretaker with them, an older caretaker, and they learn about what a kitchen is and what a refrigerator is and what a computer is and what a television is and what a rug is.
I've had them push them, and I had one grab one by the throat.
I had one pull.
She was being walked down a hallway with her arms up.
They were holding onto her elbows.
Two aliens.
And she got one elbow loose and then just brought it forward and then flipped it back and hit this gray alien in the eye with her elbow and a white substance came out.
And they hustled her away and they said she shouldn't do that.
That was bad.
That was not good.
That was bad.
And they put her in stirrups and then they tied her down, so to speak, to a table.
And they were very, very upset.
And then they went on with their procedures.
But that does happen.
It does happen from time to time.
But these great aliens weren't built for strength.
They were built because they have certain tasks to do that don't require a whole lot of strength.
In other words, if you're going to talk about an invasion, if you're going to talk about a slow but sure invasion of our planet and our species, then, you know, they may have ray guns or who knows what they've got on those ships.
But really, they've right now got about 7 billion people, most of them people, I hope, who would fight them and who would cause a lot of trouble for them.
We have bombs and missiles and nuclear weapons and a lot more strength physically than they have.
So if you want to take over a planet, let's be honest, we're talking here about invasion.
This would be the way to do it instead of the classical Independence Day scenario.
But it is your contention that this taking of that which is most precious to us, our youngsters, in the womb, is going on massively, and it's an ongoing thing.
And these humans are being replaced by hubrids who can control us.
So if that isn't an invasion, I don't know what is.
And that's why when you got on here the first time and talked about it, I finally said, well, my God, you're talking about an invasion.
And people, you can't imagine how many emails I get from people from around the world filling out a questionnaire that I have on my website talking about all these unusual things that have happened that don't happen to non-abductees.
And the numbers that are out there in terms of how many people are abductees is enormous.
It's a small percentage of the population.
Bud Hopkins and I figured out it was 2% through the Europa polls asking questions about certain questions that they would indicate that they were abductees.
But they used 6,000 people to answer these questions.
The plus-minus on this for error rate was only 1.4%, which is very, very, very low.
And we figured out, after cooking the numbers down so that they were more realistic, we figured out that about 2% of the American people were abductees.
Well, 2% of 330 million is one hell of a lot of people.
That number, again, the national number, Area Code 952-225-5278.
Oh, by the way, some news that's breaking across some parts of the internet that Putin may have made a veiled nuclear threat against the Islamic Nation.
That would not be good.
We have other lines that you can use.
You can, of course, come to us on Skype.
Love to have you do that.
And I think most of you by now know how to use Skype, right?
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And outside of North America, we are MITD 55.
That's MITD 55.
Other lines you can use if you are so inclined.
We have a first-time caller line, Area Code 775-285-5800.
Easy enough if you've never called the show.
We kind of reserve that away for people who are new.
Area code 775-285-5800.
Roswell is an avenue you can also enter into.
I'm going to give you that number now.
It routes through Roswell, New Mexico.
Kind of appropriate, I think, right?
Area code 575-208-7787.
Again, area code 575-208-7787.
My guest is Dr. David Jacobs, and what he's saying is nothing less than startling.
And I want to talk just for a moment about the change.
Doctor, the world surely is in difficult straits right now.
There's no question about that.
There's always the possibility that we will somehow destroy ourselves.
It's always looming, it seems, over our heads.
I wonder if such an event were pending or likely that you believe that they would use what they already have in place, these hubrids, and they would simply project changes to our minds to stop it all and perhaps hurry their agenda along, whatever in God's name that is.
Well, once again, these are hypothetical questions that are really tough to know.
I don't know if they have any knowledge of the politics of the society or the international politics of the society, of the world, rather.
From what I can gather, they have no knowledge of the name of the country that they're living in.
They have to be told that.
I mean, the level of knowledge that huberts have is extremely small.
What's going on in the insect-like ones, in the insectolums' minds, that I don't know.
My guess is that if they can just hold out and we don't destroy ourselves in the meantime, that we will be working, they will be, in fact, in control of governmental activities.
In other words, if they have the ability to control our thoughts, control our actions, then they could either, I suppose, propel us towards something awful, although one cannot imagine what earthly reason they would have for doing that.
I would think that they would propel us toward, gee, I don't know, their own whatever their goals are.
Yeah, it's also certainly possible that as second-class species, we would be living under the control of these aliens and not our own governments anymore.
That control would shift.
But who knows?
I do not understand.
And I don't really know what the change is either.
And it's something that so many people have talked to me about.
Nobody knows.
The change could be that, the change of ownership of the planet.
Now, there have been disturbing things about this that I've heard for years and years, and I could never quite figure out how or why or what, but this certainly might play a part in it.
People have been told sometimes that in the future you're going to have a task.
In the future, you'll know when the task, you have to do the task.
And they will tell them sometimes what the task is.
And a lot of people have told me this off-the-wall story, that they will be standing on a sidewalk while a group of angry or disturbed or confused or frightened humans are running down the street.
And their job is to manage crowd control, is to say, everything is okay, everything is fine, just keep moving in this direction, just keep moving in this direction.
And in one of these accounts that I heard, they were all moving towards a flying saucer, a UFO, a space traveling vehicle.
And that was one of the more disturbing ones that I heard.
But that's one of the most common things that I hear from people.
And it's such an odd thing to say, you know, if you're trying to make something up.
You think a job would be something like protecting or something like protecting aliens or helping the aliens out with their procedures or whatever it is.
Yes, the insect-like ones are at the top when they first came when they first came they had to have beings with them who would go down and get people because they don't go down and and duck people so they brought a small workforce with them of other aliens who I think are the reptilians the reptilian ones then after they got eggs and and and sperm and all the rest of this stuff they created the gray
So they're next on the pecking order, probably with the reptilians.
And then comes the various hybrids.
Now, it's not that authority flows downward and people have lower statuses.
It's just that they have different tasks.
They have different jobs.
They're built, literally built, to do different things.
Hybrids, the more they become human, the more they differ.
The more they can get sometimes into little arguments and things like that.
But they're still all under control, and it really is a different species, and so,
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so the pecking order isn't exactly the way you would think of it it's just that everybody knows their place okay all right let's go outside the country Johnny you're on here good evening gentlemen Dr. Jacobs I understand that because you've done this research over many many years over so many subjects that you've you've come across you've got like a video recorder of events that seems to be recorded by all walks of life from all
And so my question is, with that so much data and storage of information, have you been able to pass this information on as a sense of intelligence, to be able to share it with other people that can somehow decipher, you know, do we have an age of what aliens, age group they're coming to?
Are they going to be like troopers?
Things like this.
And my other question was, in the Bible, it mentions that there will be indemnity between them.
Well, the first one is, is there anybody in the scientific, academic, or governmental communities who is interested in this subject?
There are a few people.
I'm not in the numbers that it would take to really tackle the subject.
And in most countries, there's nothing.
And most UFO organizations in other countries focus on the outside shells of objects.
They focus on people seeing UFOs and not on the abduction phenomenon.
In other words, not what's going on inside the objects, even though there are people who say that they've been abducted in countries around the world.
In terms of the federal government, I don't know, but my guess is that nobody cares whatsoever about this subject.
My sense is that you have to have a group of scientists of very, very serious quality, serious big-time scientists, internationally known Nobel winners and all the rest of that, who sign a letter saying that this needs to be studied by the government.
And maybe that would push people off the dime a little bit.
But it is so off the wall.
It's so crazy.
It's so unlikely.
And it's all done in secret.
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people don't know what that their abductees and then they suddenly do know it and this and that but my question dr. Jacobs is with the subjects and all these subjects that you have are any of those prepared to come forward and disclose so that we can watch and hear these these hypnotic regressions and hear what these people are saying so that the public can make up their own mind and maybe between us we can use intelligence in that way to maybe come to some other understanding.
But to go back to my other question, Dr. Jacobs, it was regarding, in the Bible, it mentions an indemnity that would be put between them and us.
And I assume it's in the spirit, in the life force, which I believe is where God resides with us.
You know, when we die on the earth as a bit of meat or back to the dust, as they say.
But the spirit is a continuum.
And I believe that is the breath of life of God for my personal saviour.
But for you, sir, I ask you, do you have a spiritual belief that this is some sort of spiritual battle to come?
What is your personal value on it?
Do you believe in some savior for yourself, a God, for your family?
Well, in terms of the abduction phenomenon and the aliens, I don't see them as being spiritual people in any way, shape, or form or understanding even what that is.
They don't seem to have anything that has to do with intellectualism and emotion.
All right, I want to make an appeal right now, and that is most of you heard or will here on repeat the letter I read from the nurse about this lady whose fetus disappeared.
10-week fetus just flat disappeared.
Now, I understand that there are privacy issues.
I understand, as I mentioned to you, we're talking to her.
We're trying to get permission from the patient, but it's not an easy thing to do.
People don't want to talk about this.
It's the last thing in the world they want to talk about.
But I am making an appeal.
If you're a healthcare worker who has experienced this, much as the doctor talked about earlier, remember, remember that?
That might not be all that common, or it might be, I don't know.
But if you lost a fetus in that area, and you said it was between or around 10 weeks, but between what and what, doctor?
Proof is ultimately getting a film in some way, following an abductee around, seeing when that abductee hooks up with a known hybrid, and filming them from various different angles with different people who have no knowledge of this abductee but who are wearing wires near them.
And because when they're in public, they talk out loud, otherwise it would draw attention to themselves.
And the worst, I mean, the best way is to just bug people's homes with videos and have their permission and see what happens in the middle of the night or when people aren't around, if they don't work, what happens to them during the day and all that.
No, the ones that come down here, what he said was the ones that do come down here, the hybrids that get returned to Earth, look every bit as human as I hope you do, sir.
Most people describe them as looking like, sort of like praying mantises.
They have a triangular-shaped head.
The eyes point straight down.
There's no mouth to speak of, from what I can gather.
There's no ears, there's no nose or anything like that.
And they're very, very thin.
Sometimes they wear robes of all things.
I do not know why, but people will report this every once in a while.
And sometimes these robes have like high collars on the back of their necks.
I don't understand it.
Because aliens don't have a sense, because everything is telepathic, they don't have a sense of music, they don't have a sense of beauty, they don't have a sense of art, literature, they don't have a sense of anything like that.
So everything inside is sterile, and the way that hybrids dress while on board is extremely plain.
A beige pair of pants for the males and a pullover shirt, a beige dress for the females with three-quarter length sleeves, and that's it.
We only talk about it in America because we know more about it here than anywhere else.
But they maintain themselves with the tutelage of the abductees.
Their abductee jobs become taking care of the hybrids, making sure that they fit into the society, teaching them how to cook, teaching them what an egg is, teaching them all sorts of things about how to live here.
It takes a long time.
They are very, very, very quick learners.
There is no indication right now that they have any other language other than the language of the country that they're in.
Here's the oddity.
People will overhear great aliens talking on board a ship.
Let's say they're lying on a table naked.
And they'll say, well, they're talking about doing something, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
But the point is that they're hearing it in English.
My guess is that every person in every country hears it in the language of which they speak.
So the question then is, is there an alien language at all?
I mean, how do we get to that?
Because whenever you hear grunts and squeaks, you'd think that if they're talking among themselves, that they wouldn't be speaking so that the person could understand English and tap into them.
The best way I can say it Is that in this book of mine, Walking Among Us, there's one episode in there where a group of hubrids came back to the ship and they stood around as if it were a cocktail party, except that it wasn't.
And they mingled with abductees, abductees who had helped them when they were growing up.
And they were telling them how well they were doing.
And this one woman reported that several of them had jobs.
The jobs were essentially interns learning how to do a job.
That was their job.
And they liked it a lot.
It was extremely interesting, and they were really having, it was really good, it was really fine, and all that.
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But they can do pretty much whatever they want to do.
Yeah, there's a story in the book where a guy walks into a clothing store because he was wearing the wrong clothes for something, and he walks out with an article of clothing.
He walks right past the cashier who's standing there, and he nods to her.
Right, the woman who was behind the cashier, it did not occur to her that he was walking out with this unpaid for, even though he watched her do it.
She watched him do it.
So now, how they're eating, I am not sure.
I know how they're eating when they're with abductees, but how they're eating alone, we can't tell, don't know yet.
In other words, and here comes a little keg in the works, a little kink in the works, rather.
If it was a keg, I guess they'd be drinking a lot of beer, but if it's not, the fact is that maybe they go up to the UFO from time to time to get nourishment.
We don't know that.
However, we do know that abductees have come to their apartments, made them food, showed them how to make food, showed them how to store food, and all that sort of thing.
And we do know that they've gone to restaurants and have eaten food in restaurants with abductees.
Except that if they learn to drive a car, we know that they learn to drive cars.
That's not uncommon at all.
If they're stopped by a police officer for an infraction, the police officer would walk, they ordered them, they'd roll down the window, and the police officer would think, oh, this person did not commit an infraction.
Right, but other credit cards, I don't know how they do that, or if they just use an abductee's credit card, or if they tell the abductee to use a credit card, or if they just have enough cash on them for whatever they want to buy.
And then I would presume, in the case of the store clerk, for example, that just let them walk out with whatever they've got, the store clerk would have no memory of that act, what she just did.
She might later notice something's missing, but she wouldn't even know she did it, right?
In order to control this neurologically, the question is, can that be done if a person is wearing a helmet or a hat that covers their entire head or something like that?
We don't know that.
And there's a guy named Mike Mencken who makes hats, and people swear that they're not abducted if they have these special velostat-lined hats on.
And you can't do that all day long, every day, 24 hours a day.
But he might be onto something.
And abductees say that that works, it works, it works.
But even then, it's difficult to tell because most abductees don't know when they're abducted.
All they know is that they feel tired in the morning, and that's it.
But we need intelligent people who can sit down and think of the weaknesses of this phenomenon.
And so what that weakness is, we're not sure of, and we need to have people who are a lot smarter than me and lots of them who can sit down and deal with this problem.
And right now, there's just a few, there's a handful of people who are concerned with this in the country.
Well, no, this is personal, personal, personal, personal reasons that have to do with my family and so forth.
Not my immediate family, but...
But they have...
and goes on to the next cell.
That would be the only way that they could do it because there's checks all the time, I would assume, to see whether the prisoners are asleep or not and all that.
If they're missing during the daytime, that would be noticed.
If a hubrid mates with an abductee or a non-abductee, what is the offspring going to be like?
And so far, I have not uncovered any instances of that.
In other words, abductees have not come to me and said that they're pregnant from a hybrid to me.
But I know that this is what I wrote years ago in The Threat, in my second book, The Threat.
What we see here with human-like hybrids who are not going to be living here, but who are around abductees all the time, something I call personal project hybrids, they meet when they are young, and the hybrid takes on a person for life, basically.
It's a personal project.
The hybrids themselves said that to one person, you're going to be a personal project of mine.
At least that was her interpretation of it.
And so, and we know that sex takes place, and we know that the woman does get pregnant, and then the little embryo is removed.
And what that does is it bypasses the whole process of having to take an egg and then alter it and then put it back in, you know, and then, but it doesn't alter the process of taking it out.
So that does happen.
Now, is that going to happen with hubrids?
I don't know.
And it's possible that the children that are born will just live here and just be human and just learn everything normally like humans do.
Well, what happens after a person gets off the table is that invariably they go in and start dealing with hybrids.
This is a one-note theme, you'll notice.
They hold babies.
They have to have skin-on-skin contact with babies.
Sometimes the babies are really ugly babies, as they tell me.
And sometimes they're not bad-looking babies.
They're kind of cute.
They teach little kids how to play also.
Little kids have their own toys that the aliens or the hybrids make for them.
The toys, and I actually wrote an article, if you can imagine this, on hybrid toys and games.
Of all the darn things in the world to do, I mean, it's such an odd phenomenon, and there's so many different facets to it.
I got fascinated by toys.
And these toys are controlled by people's minds.
The kids can make the little ball fly up in the air and come back down, or other objects go up into the air, or they can look at books, and the books have images in them that look like 3D or 4D or 9D or whatever it is.
It looks like reality.
And they have all these different sort of things that they play with.
Well, and I've gone round and round about this for years and years and years and years.
And the answer is I have not yet been convinced, although some people have put up good arguments that I hadn't thought of before, but I am not yet convinced that they know anything at all about this subject.
I keep getting information about how the government is studying UFOs.
They're compiling data on UFOs.
Well, if they're compiling data on UFOs, they have no idea what they're doing and they know nothing about the subject whatsoever because they're concerned with the outside shells of objects as opposed to what's going on inside.
Who are the beings inside?
What are they up to?
Why are they here?
What's the program?
This and that.
That's the only thing that matters.
Why are they here?
Their propulsion, where they're from, how they get here, all that sort of stuff.
That doesn't mean anything.
The only thing that has serious meaning to our existence is what's in these beings' minds.
What are they going to do with us?
Therefore, they would be debriefing abductees 24-7.
They would have been doing it for decades.
And we have no indication that that's going on at all.
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All right, Logan, anything else?
Yeah, my second question was just if we were going to try to do something about it, what should our scientists here on Earth be, what kind of technology should we be researching to attempt to do anything?
The only thing we can do is how to stop, is figure out how to stop abductions.
Do it on our level.
Figure out who abductees are, if that's at all possible, because most abductees don't know that they're Abductees.
And it's a secret phenomenon.
It's clandestine.
And the first way you keep it secret is by keeping it secret from the abductee, obviously.
But they have to figure out a way to protect abductees, and that would mean protect everybody.
So since they don't know who abductees are, then everybody in a whole country, everybody in the entire world or whatever would have to wear a special gear, a special thing on their head, whatever it is, to prevent the abduction phenomenon.
That's the only way that I can think of it.
I have trouble working a toothbrush.
So I'm not a technician.
I'm not a scientist.
I don't know what they would come up with, but the fact is that...
Within the last approximately 15 to 16 years ago, I had an opportunity to talk to an individual who was a personal bodyguard to an extremely high, extremely high federal official.
And I talked to this person after midnight at this friend's location somewhere here in California.
And first we talked to him.
And by the way, I'm not going to give you specifics, but I'm going to wet your appetite with facts.
I asked this individual how he thought the U.S. would do if we ever engaged in a major war like Russia or China.
And of course, the Skype entrance points, MITD51 in North America, MITD55, rest of the world.
And the first-time caller line.
Let me keep giving that out till I can induce Ross to help.
Area code 775-285-5800.
My guest is Dr. David Jacobs.
We're talking about nothing less than the takeover of the world.
An invasion of the world.
A quiet invasion of the world.
No pushing, no shoving, no shooting.
Just a complete takeover.
That's the scary part of it.
Color, you're back on the air with Dr. Jacobs.
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Okay, I'm going to backtrack a little bit and let you know that this is for real.
At my friend's location, the father of this individual who was protecting an extremely high federal official, he had pictures on the wall of his son inside the private jet of this official, as well as on the tarmac at the airport.
Multiple photos, right?
So I know this is no BS.
So when I asked him, what do you think, how do you think the U.S. would fare in a major engagement with Russia or China or both?
And he said, believe me, he said, if it comes to a point where they start pushing buttons, he said, you would not want to survive.
So in the middle of the conversation, this guy never cracked a smile.
He was dead serious the whole time.
All of a sudden, he changes the subject.
He's got a bizarre look on his face and in his eyes, like he got spooked, like he had come in contact with something that literally shook him, rattled him, like shell shock from a combat veteran.
And he says to me, off the wall, he says, if you saw what I saw, your mind would not be strong enough to handle it.
And at the time, like approximately within the last 15 years, I said, well, I don't see how that could be because, you know, I'm a combat veteran and I've seen some horrendous things that would drive a lot of people into some bad, very bad things.
I said, I don't see how that could be possible.
So he looked at me and stares me once again with that bizarre look in his eyes and on his face.
And he says these words.
He says, once again, if you saw what I saw, your mind would not be strong enough to handle it.
So I said, you know, I just cannot understand what you're talking about.
It may well be that he had contact from some sort of alien or some sort of who knows.
But people do get affected like that.
And I think that what Dr. Jacobs is saying is that when the change comes, a lot of people are going to have these sudden, what's the right way to put it?
Epiphanies?
No, not really.
They're simply going to change their behavior immediately, Doctor?
Well, I think that when the change comes, if we're not in the change already, but when the change comes, it might come suddenly in some way, or it might come gradually.
But what it means, I think, ultimately is that humans will be just relegated to a second-class position, maybe even gotten rid of for all I know, and that this planet will no longer belong to human beings.
It will belong to them for reasons that are unknown.
But the thing is about abductions is that they start in very early age and they continue with great frequency all the way into old age into probably the late 70s.
And consequently, it's not a one-stop event.
It's a series of events that affects a person's life whether they know it or not.
People who don't know it know that they lead odd lives, that they have missing time sequences of a couple of hours and they can't account for where they were or anything about it.
They know that they've seen dead people who have come back to them to say goodbye after they've been dead for nine or ten years.
Well, knowing you're an abductee is big enough for most people.
And what happens is they'll read something and they'll realize, oh my God, this is me.
This has been happening to me.
Now I understand it.
Or they'll see a picture when Whitley Steever came out with his book, Communion, which had a sort of a picture of a gray alien, although it was not what gray aliens look like, but it was close enough.
It rattled people.
Hundreds, thousands of people wrote to UFO researchers saying, I know this alien.
I've been with him or whatever.
I've had people who told me that they saw that book, they picked up the book to look at it, and they saw the cover, and then they just threw it across the room.
Once again, we don't know why, what it's for, what they're doing there.
One time I figured something, I figured two things out in the actual examination.
I figured out that they take their finger and their thumb and they place it on the top of a person's backbone and they just go down the backbone, finger and thumb, tracing through all the vertebrae.
And then with special attention to the coccyx and then back up again.
And actually, you would be interested in this also as an amateur radio operator.
It's been suggested to me that as far as mind control is concerned, that they use radio frequency in some fashion superimposed over all of our television, radio, media of all kinds.
And I'm just wondering if you had heard anything about that.
I interviewed a number of people about the HAARP project, Doctor, and there was a mind control aspect to it.
They were convinced, and I think they perhaps even proved, that they Could bounce a signal off the ionosphere and cause an opposing army to be confused, cause an opposing army to be basically dysfunctional, and obviously an easy kill at that point.
So, you know, our government certainly has played in that arena.
Very quickly, I think Indio, California.
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Hello.
Hey, Ari.
Hey, Dr. Jacobs.
I just got a quick story of I actually had an encounter of what I believe was hubris at the grocery store.
It freaked me out.
Really?
Yeah, okay.
So what happened was I just went in to get some, you know, basic stuff.
I saw a taller individual that was skinnier and a normal-looking, you know, more human, you could say, individual.
The taller one was kind of androgynous.
Anyways, they were basically going item by item, even ordinary things, bananas, strawberries, milk that anybody would know, but they were, you know, teaching them about it.
I kind of started following them through the store, you know what I mean?
I wasn't really trying to make myself known, but after a while, they caught on.
They turned around and kind of looked at me, and I just, I left.
I didn't really think about it until, you know, I thought about the second time, last time Dr. Jacobs was on there.
I was like, oh my God, that was probably a hubrid teaching.
You know, as soon as they grabbed the hot pockets, I was like, boom, out of there.
Well, the first thing you have to learn about this couple was, is the guy from some foreign country that's way out of the way and he's never been in a supermarket before.
He's never seen food like that.
I mean, you have to eliminate all those things.
Yeah.
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I had no other way of explaining it, but your Hubid theory kind of fit in very nicely.
If there's any women out there who don't mind talking and or healthcare workers who have seen these embryos disappear around the 10-week mark, plus or minus a little bit, I sure would appreciate an email, artbell at knye.com.
That's artbell at k-n-y-e.com.
Mark, you're on the air.
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Howdy, one of my earliest memories I have as a young, young child, it was a nightmare about gray aliens and whatnot, a face floating above my head, I think, in a crib.
And watching communion completely put a fear in me and it creeped me out.
As a 17-year-old, I was clinging to my mother.
How could I find maybe a hypnotherapist or aggression therapist that's legitimate to try to get this garbage out of my head?
Yeah, and they certainly would be intelligent enough to hold positions within the government if they had a tremendous amount of knowledge about the society.
And what that means is, the question then is, how long have they been doing this?
How long have they been integrating into the society?
I don't think all that long.
And the reason is because people didn't start telling me about this until around 2003 or so.
That I wasn't getting these kinds of accounts.
And now, as Karen Morgan, the one who's in all three of my books, told me, with her, it's all hybrids all the time.
And again, I want to ask if anybody out there has experienced a pregnancy of the type we talked about earlier, or you're a healthcare worker who can anonymously, if you must, relate this sort of story.
We want to know how much of this is going on.
I know of no other way to uncover this, frankly.
Anyway, from the high desert to all those time zones, I'm Mark Bell.