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Nov. 6, 2015 - Art Bell

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Art Bell MITD - Open Lines Past Lives Line

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art bell ▲ ● ▼		I bid you good evening, good morning, good afternoon, wherever you may be in the world 25 times, everyone covered like a blanket by this program.
unidentified		Midnight in the desert.
		I'm Mark Bell, and it is my pleasure to be here with you.
		This night is special, of course, because it's your night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No guests.
		We hold Fridays, as a general rule, open for no guests.
		In other words, it's your night.
		Say what you want.
unidentified		All right, so here's the way it works.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We have rules.
		No bad language and one call per show.
		Now, on Friday nights, we also try to include the two drink minimum.
		No, wait.
		Two drink maximum.
		You know, I watch the sites and people, I think, intentionally get that rule backwards anyway, right?
		Convinced of it.
		So I can make the rule, but, you know, I just, I don't think it's going to get followed.
		At least that's my experience in previous weeks.
		I would like to thank, as always, Telos, Joe Talbot, for the great sound.
		Keith, my webmaster of long time.
		Heather Wade, my producer, and boy, does she do a good job.
		Stream Guys.
		LB.net.
		They get it to StreamGuys, they get it to you.
		Sales, Pete Eberhardt.
		Tune-In Radio, and of course, our own Amy Martin News.
		There are a couple of items before we open the lines to heaven knows what.
		Today, as you know, we've been following Star KIC 8462852, and guess what, folks?
		Greenback Scientist, the scientists monitoring in West Virginia have found intelligence.
		So there you have it.
		Okay, let's now look at some back-to-earth stuff.
		First of all, this is of no earthly interest probably to anybody, but the other night during an interview, I swear to you all, a little mouse came up not more than 18 inches from me and stared at me right in the eye, and I looked at it.
		We sat there and looked at each other for a little while, and I was so blown away, I didn't know what to do.
		I started to reach for my iPhone 6 to get a picture, and this mouse I've named Abby Normal was gone.
		So last night, I took the napkin that had the bread and a copious amount of peanut butter on it, and I laid it on the floor.
		Now, I left the studio empty with this on the floor.
		I mean, even I could smell the peanut butter, right?
		I came back tonight, fully expecting to see it shredded around on the floor, and it hadn't been touched.
unidentified		Not even touched.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So what does that tell you?
		Not even touched.
		This means to me, this mouse is not in the house.
		This mouse came somehow from outside to see me, probably never saw a human in its little life, and left again because there is no way, no way that could have been on the floor untouched all night long.
		So that makes it just a little weirder, if you ask me.
		I hope, frankly, that Abbey Normal comes back one of these days for some reason.
		All right, let's actually look at the real news now.
		President Obama has said no to the Keystone XL pipeline, declaring it would undercut U.S. efforts to clinch a global climate change deal at the center of his environmental legacy.
		His legacy, huh?
		So, no pipeline.
		I don't know how I feel about that.
		On the one hand, you know, we probably should build it, I think.
		I think the president's wrong.
		In an very abrupt turnaround, after, well, a brief secret, ultra-secret consultation with the U.S. and London, England, Russia on Friday suspended all passenger flights to Egypt.
		After days of resistance, apparently what we told them convinced them.
		They looked at the black boxes in the plane, and they found absolutely nothing but what they say is the sound of an explosion.
		So, and plus ISIS cut a new video, again, claiming responsibility for it all.
unidentified		So now what's going to happen?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is Russia going to begin to bomb ISIS as well as the rebels trying to overthrow Assad?
		I don't know.
		We'll have to wait and see.
		Knowing the Russians, though, well, let's put it this way.
		In my opinion, frequently when we hit back at somebody, we do it by slapping their wrist.
		The Russians have a different mentality about hitting back.
		So if you suddenly see, you know, some significant geography in the Sinai missing soon, you'll know they reacted.
		This is kind of an interesting story.
		Fred Dunham, a former employee of EG ⁇ G Special Projects, who worked as a security guard at Area 51, just over the hill from me here, has been successful in claiming compensation for serious health issues which have affected him as a result of his time there.
		His case has now been taken up by Donna Hand, a workers advocate of Tampa, who contests the Department of Energy's stance that EGNG is not listed as contractors approved for the compensation program.
		Hand, of course, disputes that and has documents to support it.
		So we'll have to see what happens there.
		In political news, Trump is up a little, Carson down a little, trying to answer questions about his past, and that's kind of it.
		There's some people who got booted out of the next debate.
		Well, booted out is an unfair, violent-sounding term.
		They weren't booted out.
		They were just demoted.
		And even Christie didn't like that word, demoted.
		He said transferred.
		So it's like when they come to you in school and say, listen, I know you're in the fifth grade, but we're transferring you to the fourth.
		All right, open lines.
		Anything you want to talk about is fair game.
		I am going to open up a special line, sort of in dedication to the quality of last night's show.
		My God, it was a good show.
		We talked about past lives.
		And it really, really, really was interesting.
		God, what a show.
		If you're not a time traveler, oh, you should be.
		You have access to all our past shows.
		You can listen to them on your iPhone or your Android device or whatever.
		You know, we've got an RSS feed, and these are good shows.
		Last night was just over-the-top good.
		We talked about past lives.
		And so that prompts me tonight to open one line at least for people who think they know what their past life was.
		Now, you know, another reason I'm doing it is because he told this story last night about skiing.
		Remember, putting on the skis and going rocketing down the slope, and he knew what he was doing.
		And he had learned that in a past life, right?
		For me, I think that I was Asian.
		I really, really do think that, folks, I was Asian.
		I like Asian culture.
		I love Asian food.
		I eat Asian rice virtually every night.
		I spent a lot of time in Asia.
		My daughter is named Asia.
		I could go on.
		Asian women, of course.
		So all the way around, I think that in a past life, I probably was Asian.
		I've told my wife that a million times.
		She's Catholic.
		I don't know how she is on prior lives.
		We'll have to talk about that.
		Anyway, if you think you know what you were in a previous life, the number for you is Area Code, are you ready?
		575-208-7787.
		Once again, area code 575-208-7787.
		I will also open the first-time caller line.
		If you have never called this show, it's area code 775-285-5800.
		I'll try and repeat this.
		I know I forget.
		775-285-5800.
		I guess I need to have Ross cut some more with these new numbers.
		And by the way, when I pick up your line, if you are listening to a radio station, please give their call letters.
		Give them credit.
unidentified		Okay?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I also forget to do that all the time.
		We've got more and more coming on all the time.
		So give their call letters if you can.
		And something else is nagging at me that I was supposed to do, but I don't recall what it was.
		So we'll go to break.
		There is something else.
		What was it?
		This is what happens when you get old.
		You know, I'm just going to go ahead and go to break.
		Think about what it was.
unidentified		Maybe it'll come to me through the gray fog.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Maybe.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We'll be right back.
unidentified		This is midnight in the desert.
unidentified		The devil went down to Georgia.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He was looking for a soul to steal.
unidentified		He was in a bind, but he was way behind.
		He was willing to make a deal.
		When he came across this young man, someone on the fiddle and playing it hot.
		And the devil jumped up on the hatred thumbs and bought him a till you watched.
		I guess you didn't know it, but I'm a fiddle player, too.
		I want to love you, feel you, let myself around you.
		I want to squeeze you, squeeze you.
		I just can't get enough.
		And if you're a real strong, I'll let it go.
		I'm so tired.
		Midnight in the Desert doesn't scream calls.
		We customized the MSA.
		Well, the comment shows up.
		1952-225-5278.
		That's 1952.
		Call party.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		Alright, so I thought he was screwing with me, actually, with the psychic.
		He had no repairman, really.
unidentified		I was sure he was messing with me, but no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, so I meant to finish up on two things.
		It did cross the gray matter, and I got it.
		Time travelers get all kinds of, I don't know, advantages, frankly.
		You can download any show, RSS, play it anytime you want.
		You can use the wormhole, which I've got right next to me, and read from all the time.
		Somebody wants me to have a section of the show called Wormhole Corner.
		I don't know, that's kind of corny, where I just sit and read wormhole messages.
		But maybe I'll have to come up with a, I mean, wormhole corner.
		I'm not going to call it that.
		Sounds like out of the 1950s or 40s or something.
		If you want to become a time traveler, you go to artbell.com, my website, artbell.com, and it'll be right there in the eye.
		Join the time travelers, and you get a lot of stuff for it.
		Including my gratitude.
		So there was that, and then the talk.
		I get so many requests for this.
		I mean, it's just unbelievable.
		People just writing me emails, phone calls.
		It never ends.
		Even a few texts from people I know wanting to talk.
		Okay, here's the talk.
		You can sound better.
		Better than the people on the phone.
		They sound pretty good because we've got a superb phone system, actually, here.
		And by the way, that's really true.
		We do.
		But you can sound better on Skype.
		More authoritative, more clear, you know, the whole ball of wax.
		And it's so easy to do.
		If you've got a portable device of some sort, even, frankly, your computer, it doesn't matter.
		The world has changed.
		I know you've got one of them.
		So download Skype.
		It's free.
		Skype is free.
		All the way around.
		Free.
		Always free.
		Of course, Microsoft might change that, but for now it's free.
		And then you can put in, put us in there.
		If you're in North America, meaning America and Canada, please enter as though you would a new contact.
		There's a little plus sign for it there.
		Put in MITD51 for North America.
		M-I-T-D-5-1 for North America.
		Rest of the world, M-I-T-D 55.
		And even if you don't call right away, it's all right.
		You'll have it in there in your contacts after you've done that, and you can go back to it and just go and call us for free from anywhere, virtually anywhere in the world.
		With that in mind, let us begin.
		It's hard to know where to start.
		Everything's full, as you might imagine.
		So let's, I guess, go here.
		Rochester, New York, I'm guessing.
unidentified		Rochester, New York.
		Yes.
		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, turn your device off, please.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I can hear it in the background.
unidentified		Sorry about that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Can't have that.
		I mean, once you're on the line, you don't need it.
		You can hear it on the phone.
unidentified		Absolutely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, good.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So what's on your mind?
unidentified		Well, it's in regards to last night's show.
unidentified		I actually had a question, and I don't know if it's something that you would be willing to answer, but I was wondering if you think that past lives influence your future or present life, and if there's signs, like, how can you tell if it does?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, obviously, I'm not the expert, but I think that's what it's all about, hon. That past lives influence your current life.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So the answer is yes and yes.
unidentified		But if you have no idea what your past lives were, are there some kind of signs that you can look for that show?
		I don't know.
		I find it a little bit different.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't either.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, if you find yourself drawn to a cat box, then, you know.
unidentified		Right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Other than that, look, I'm not the expert.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm just the talk show host.
unidentified		Right, right, right.
unidentified		Well, I appreciate the time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You really don't find yourself drawn to cat boxes, right?
unidentified		No, not at all.
unidentified		Other than I do like cats, but I'm not as one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's not like when you see one, you...
unidentified		No, no, no, no.
		My husband, he was dying to say hello.
		Do you mind if I put him on?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Does he sound pretty good?
unidentified		He does sound pretty good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, yeah, put him on.
unidentified		All right, thanks so much.
		Hi, Art.
		This is Dan from Rochester, and I'm a very, very excited new caller to the show.
		I just started on September 18th and have listened to several of your past interviews, and I think you're just an incredible person for turning everybody on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		It's kind of an eclectic show.
		We do, and I think people forgot that over the years.
		I do all kinds of things, not just paranormal, not just anything really, whatever I find cool and interesting.
unidentified		Exactly.
		And it piques the listener's curiosity, and it challenges their intellect quite severely in some cases, but in a great way.
		Everything is very, very positive.
		And we're very anxious to sign up and donate and be a part of it.
		It's fantastic.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you don't have to donate, but if you sign up, it's a hell of a deal.
		Really, it is.
		I mean, you get all these past shows, and I think we're coming up on like 75 shows in this incarnation right now.
		And it is full of interesting stuff.
		So you can just like download it and listen to it at your leisure.
unidentified		Which I have, and it's really opened my mind to time travel.
		And I have a quick question.
		If I could use a time machine to visit with one of my past life incarnates, could I do that?
		Could I go back and from this time period or timeline that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, okay.
		The problem would be, how would you know when you found you?
		I mean, even if you went back to, say, 180, 1700, whatever, how would you know?
unidentified		You would have to search for yourself, I would imagine, or possibly use.
unidentified		Well, if you had some genealogy traced back to, say, the 1700s, where you knew, in my family's case, I had a governor in a town of Lyme Regis, England.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But let's think about this for a second, Siri.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Even if you got back in time and you met up with the person you're talking about right now and you presented them with genetic evidence that you were the same, do you know what they would do with you in 1700?
unidentified		Oh, I would be a heretic, most likely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You'd be locked away in a rubber room.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Genetically.
unidentified		I would.
		Are you crazy?
		Well, you would have to use your best Downton Abbey accent and play dumb, as it were.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, exactly.
unidentified		But I do think you could communicate on a level of the time period without exposing yourself.
unidentified		You could be very cautious.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't know.
unidentified		Do you think it's possible?
unidentified		I mean, I think you could narrow down the region that you are in, and you'd certainly know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This is why I want you to go out and somehow get a copy of a movie called Eye Origins.
unidentified		I will.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		I want some feedback after you get it.
		Okay?
unidentified		I will.
		Very good.
		Well, this is Dan from Rochester, so I will definitely check back with you.
		And it's such a pleasure to talk to you.
		I can't even tell you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, buddy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
unidentified		Oops.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sorry about that.
		I thought we were done.
		All right.
		Let's go here.
		You're on the air.
unidentified		Good evening.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Going once.
unidentified		Hello?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, hello.
unidentified		Oh, okay.
		I'm listening on the phone.
		I didn't hear you.
		This is Eric from Clemens, North Carolina.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you a first-time caller, I would take it?
unidentified		Yes, sir, I am.
		I've been listening to you since way back when we both didn't have any gray hair.
		I want to thank you for getting me through many night shifts in hospital laboratories across the country.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you listening on radio or the internet?
unidentified		I am listening through Dark Matter on the TuneIn Radio app.
		Okay.
		And I wanted to say hi to my buddies out there at the Midnight Fans Forum.
		I'm sure they're all like, oh, that's him, that's him.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, guys, that's him.
unidentified		Anyway, I'm glad you're back.
		Oh, my God, can't say.
		Of course, that's probably the only time you've heard that.
		I don't know if this counts really as a past life, but I had a dream once, and if you have one of those dreams where you smell the smells, you feel the textures.
		It's almost like you've stepped into on a stage.
		It was so realistic.
		I felt like I was actually there.
		It wasn't so much a dream state, but like I was realistic.
		Was this dream, did the dream involve you?
		Yeah, it was from my point of view.
		It wasn't like I was looking at a character.
		It was like I was standing flat-footed on this in a Grecian, you know, Mediterranean type stonework pier.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
unidentified		You know, like there was a boathouse to my, the best thing I can do to describe it is a boathouse with columns, you know, made of stone.
		I looked up from that, and there's this wall of water, and the next thing I know, I'm being obliterated by the rubble that's in the water.
		And it's kind of an alarm.
		Yeah, it was kind of an alarming thing, but it was so realistic.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Perhaps your death in a previous life, huh?
unidentified		I'm wondering.
unidentified		Like I said, it was, I didn't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, let me note something here, sir.
		Thank you so very much for the call.
		And let me note something quickly.
		And that is when we dream, don't we always dream about ourselves?
		In other words, have any of you ever had a dream in which you were completely somebody else?
		That would be weird, right?
		Another creature, another person?
		The dream was not, you were nowhere in the dream whatsoever.
		I mean, I'm always in my dreams.
		I think.
		I'm trying to think back, but I cannot recall a time I've had a dream that I wasn't part of it.
		It was part of my past or something like that.
		And I've never been back in the 17 or 1800s either.
		Hello there on a cell phone somewhere.
		You're on the air.
unidentified		Hello?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, hello.
unidentified		This is Julie in Colorado.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Julie in Colorado.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Julie.
unidentified		Yeah.
		Hey, Art.
		So glad you're back on the air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		It's not the same when I'm not on the air.
		I don't know why.
		It's like I was made to do this, I guess, or did it in a past life.
unidentified		You were made to do it.
		Well, I have to tell you this.
		I have to tell you, I've been trying to call in for weeks that I saw a structure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean a megastructure?
unidentified		I saw the megastructure.
		In 2007, I had to go open a business that I used to run, and it was at 3 in the morning.
		Drove to the business that I run and let an employee in, and then I drove back home.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're not talking about the megastructure that we've been talking about, are you?
unidentified		Yes, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		could you have seen that?
unidentified		I mean, even with the best...
		I saw it.
		I saw it because I called my husband, and this was about 3.30 in the morning, and I said, I'm looking at a UFO.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you didn't like shout, honey, honey, a megastructure.
unidentified		Come quick.
		No, I didn't know how to describe it.
		I didn't know how to describe it.
		And I closed my eyes really tight and opened them again, just to make sure that I wasn't We've got a break.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We've got a break.
unidentified		Love.
		Out of those trouble, wish him well.
		In a castle dark or a fortress dark.
		The clock strikes 12, and midnight in the desert is coming package your way on the dark matter digital network.
		To call control, please direct your fingers against the number 1952-225-5278.
		That's 1952.
		Things with that much enthusiasm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is that something?
		That's not.
		Welcome, everybody.
		It's Open Lives.
		Anything goes, anything you want to talk about is your game.
unidentified		That's all number 952-225-5278.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The other numbers of interest?
		As live line at area code 575-208-7787.
		That's 575-208-7787.
		I have to have Ross do this.
		First time callers at area code 775-285-5800.
		That's 775-285-5800.
		And the young lady who was on the air with me prior to the break is now back.
		Where were we?
unidentified		Hi, Art.
		Hi.
		I was telling you about the megastructure that I saw in 2008.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But I mean, you were on Earth, right?
unidentified		I was on Earth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, and you were looking in the sky, I presume, and you said sort of UFO, right?
unidentified		Yes, yes.
		Well, it was unidentified.
		It doesn't look like any UFO that you see, you know, you see pictures of.
		Now, this was like a structure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So it was like a UFM, unidentified line megastructure.
unidentified		Yes, yes.
unidentified		And I didn't know how to describe it until the last couple weeks when you started talking about this megastructure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Gotcha.
unidentified		And I said to my husband, I said, that's it.
		That's what I saw.
		Because I could draw a picture of it, but I could never explain it to anyone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, then I have an assignment for you.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Draw a picture of it and send it to me.
unidentified		I will.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, send it to KNY.
		Well, let's see.
		Where do I want to do this?
		Art Bell at K-N-Y-E.
		Can you do that?
unidentified		K-N-Y-E.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		People get it all messed up.
		They get dyslexic with it.
unidentified		It's K-N-Y-E.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know why people want to do it the other way.
		I won't even say it or it will stick.
		But send me that photograph.
		I'd love to see it.
unidentified		Well, it'll be me drawing it.
		I will draw it and send it to you.
		And it was huge.
		And I just wanted to let you know that somebody has seen it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		I will just take your word on that.
		I have no way of knowing if you saw the megastructure or a megastructure, actually.
		Let's go here to our first time caller line, actually.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, hi.
unidentified		Oh, hey, Mr. Bellboy.
		This is an honor.
		Hey, I just wanted to tell you, I've been listening to you for years, and this is calling from KCAA, which is near Idaho, California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's the way to do it.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah, all right, yeah.
		Put it a good plug.
		Anyhow, I only get you for an hour on this, and then I switch over to your antithesis, and that's George Norrie, who actually bashed you last night about the whole infrastructure thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
unidentified		Yes, he's just a key.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He bashed me!
unidentified		But anyhow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No wait, no wait.
		But don't just leave it at that.
		Hold it, hold it, hold it.
		What did he say?
unidentified		Oh, well, this is after he was justifying that the Earth produces oil abiotically.
		I mean, the guy's out of his mind.
		But anyhow, he was saying that, you know, some people exaggerate what they find or they exaggerate the finds of scientists.
		I don't think you were doing it at all.
		I mean, you know, take it for what it's worth.
		But the reason I call is, I wonder, I listened to you 20 years ago.
		Do you ever feel like you were set up by Richard Hoagland?
		And I'll just go off the phone.
		Thank you so much, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Set up?
		No, not really.
		I don't think I was set up at all.
		The only, you know, I looked at rocks with Richard for years.
		The one he got me with was the thing that a lot of other people, by the way, have found and said, look, this is artificial.
		There's no question about it.
		Maybe it came from our space program.
		Maybe not.
		But there was a pipe sticking out of it.
		What he called number nine, I believe, right?
unidentified		So.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And, you know, as far as my making a big deal out of this story, it is a big deal.
		Now, nobody's saying that it's aliens.
		Well, actually, Jason Wright mentioned that.
		I've not said that.
		I've said it could be.
		And I don't know why he bashed me actually for saying that, because it would be the biggest story of our lifetimes.
		Absolutely no question about it if it turned out to be anything at all.
		All the indications are, and I've had leaks from NASA, as you know, leaks from scientists trying to puzzle it out.
		Nobody has knocked it down yet.
		So it remains an item of intense interest.
		And so if you want to bash me for that, who cares?
		That's just, you know, well, there's a word.
		I won't use it.
		Hello, Undead, I believe it's Undead Quake Guy.
		That's your name, right?
unidentified		Hello there, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Undead Quake Guy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How did you come up with a name like that?
unidentified		Well, it's a bit of a moniker that the village up here in Canada gave me, to be honest.
		I'm extremely talented at an old game called Quake On the PC, and well, it was Halloween, and so I decided to change it to Undead.
		Frankly, I've just been asleep for too long and forgot to change it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it makes you distinctive, that's for sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		My daughter was watching Pixels earlier, and I was watching guys play Donkey Kong.
unidentified		Ah, yes, a classic, an absolute classic.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		I was calling in for two quick things.
		I wanted to have a little bit of discussion about the megastructure and how it could have been built.
		But first, I want to give you an update about my cow.
		I called in a week or two ago when you had the witch on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		You asked me to call you back for a bit of an update on the cure that she gave me for the cow.
		And I want to let you know she should not be the local witch because I fed my cow exactly what she told me to, which was milk and honey.
		And of course, she was the only cow in the village.
		So I gave her her milk and honey.
		And a week later, she passed away.
		And unfortunately, I won't be able to marry my wife now because that was the dowry.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There's tragedy, and then there's this call.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, my God, that's awful.
unidentified		It just tapped right on the barnyard floor.
		So that witch, I just don't know.
		I really think you should give her a pass.
		But onto something a little more extraterrestrial.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Allow me, if you would, a moment of Socratic dialogue.
unidentified		If they're going to be creating a Dyson sphere, that would require a massive amount of materials, would it not?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It would.
unidentified		And in order to harness such material, they would most likely need to be gathering minerals from at least all over their solar system, at the least, correct?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		At the least.
unidentified		However, what if, instead of requiring going around gathering all of these resources, they had something what is called a universal constructor?
unidentified		Have you heard of this art?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, is it from Star Trek?
unidentified		Universal Constructor is not from Star Trek, nor is it from Star Wars, unfortunately.
		It's actually a concept that goes back several decades in science.
		Sort of the philosopher's stone of science, if you will, being able to put materials into this machine, and then it rewrites the code at the subatomic level, moves the particles around and changes it into the particle of what you need.
		For instance, lead to gold or silicon to petroleum.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's kind of like Star Trek, in a way.
unidentified		I was just wondering if you've had any guests or any scientists or anything of the sort that might have brought it up, because I do believe it's a fascinating topic, and it might be the only way that we as mankind manage to reach out past the solar system, because we're having a rough time managing our own resources as it is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We could certainly use a universal constructor, there's no question about it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But all the scientists that I was aware of that had anything to do with that project came to untimely ends.
unidentified		I wouldn't be surprised at all, Art.
		Well, anyways, thank you very much for allowing me on.
		I just want to give you an update about the cow.
		Hopefully, her family can find some other sort of dowry, or this cow farmer is just going to become a normal farmer.
		Have yourself a good night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Get off my line.
		Thank you.
		Let's go here to, I believe, Washington and say you're on there.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
		Hi.
		Hello.
silverdale in washington ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
		Art.
		I wanted to let you know, we've had problems in our area where we have these little local mice.
		They're kind of the little forest mice.
		And they will get into the engine of your car, and they love to eat the wiring.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's happening.
silverdale in washington ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and so, and they love when they get in to have a mouse.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let me tell you how bad.
		Let me tell you how bad it was.
		We had a mouse that got in the heater, you know, the heater part of the car.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And the fan part.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And we had little mouse pieces coming out.
unidentified		Oh, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
		Oh, it was awful.
		It was absolutely awful.
		And little mouse pieces and fur kept coming out for a long, long time.
unidentified		Oh, it's a tragedy.
silverdale in washington ▲ ● ▼		Well, mine last year, it got in my, one of them got in my van outside, and it started, it started, the engine light came on, and I called my mechanic, and he went into it.
		He's a really good mechanic.
		And $1,200 later, he told me he immediately came up with photos and everything of what they had done.
		And we got the parts and everything, put everything together.
		But he said, there's so much wiring that they've shown through.
		And he showed me all these photos he'd taken in there.
		And I could actually see down in there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, now I'm not worried.
		Do you know why?
		Yeah, I've got a lot of wiring here, of course.
		But I left the peanut butter and bread on the floor last night, didn't touch it.
		This to me means that mouse is not in this house.
silverdale in washington ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know what they love?
		Because I had some help.
		I was donating at the wildlife shelter over here, and they have a lot of, they hate to kill animals, and they had a lot of rodents coming in at night and even eating some of the birds that were in the cages that they were trying to rehab.
		That was tragic.
		So what they did, they were trying everything to try to trap, you know, put them in rat traps.
		And they couldn't bait.
		They tried peanut butter, everything.
		And they finally used Cheetos and the things, you'd even hear them snapping during the day.
		You know, they love Cheetos for stuff.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Cheetos, huh?
unidentified		Cheetos.
unidentified		That's the best thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I am convinced.
		Okay, I get it, but thank you very much.
		I am convinced that my mouse, Abby Normal, is not in the house.
		There is no way that a mouse could not smell peanut butter probably five rooms away.
		So that little guy, little gal, I do believe, came to me, wanted to see me, wanted to see a human, saw me, and left.
		That's the only explanation.
		Right?
		Because how could she not have eaten the peanut butter overnight?
		Simple as that.
		Let's go to our first time caller line.
		How about there?
		Hello, you're on there.
unidentified		Going on.
		Yes, this is Jonathan.
		I really enjoyed a very interesting interview with the gentleman that does the past life progressions yesterday.
		Very fascinating.
		I want to suggest two alternate possibilities of how to interpret what people are experiencing there.
		First of all, if there are beings, whether good or malevolent, who are as much bigger than us as we are than bacteria, they could, if they wanted to give us the impression that we are experiencing a past life regression, they could mess with our minds just like we do with experimenting with bacteria and small creatures of that sort.
		So if they had an agenda that involved confusing us about the afterlife, that is a possibility that I don't see how we could rule out.
		But the second one that occurred to me was that when you have a love relationship, when you really empathize with someone, whether it's...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What are you talking on anyway?
unidentified		Oh, I'm talking on a mobile headset.
unidentified		Is it too, is it hard to hear?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's awful, actually.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean like Bluetooth?
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to demonstrate this for everybody's good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What I want you to do, stay on a line, disconnect the Bluetooth, and talk directly into the phone instead.
unidentified		Okay, you got it.
		You got it.
		All right, I'll wait.
		Let me disconnect.
		It won't take long.
		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Good.
		I'll wait.
		I want you to.
unidentified		Here I am.
unidentified		I'm on the phone directly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now.
		God, that sounds so much better.
		So much better.
		Don't ever use Bluetooth.
		That's what Bluetooth does to a phone, folks.
		All right, back to matters of love.
unidentified		Okay, that's a good learning for me.
		Yeah, if you empathize with someone, whether it's the empathy of friendship or romantic love, especially when you're a child, sometimes the distinctions between your ego, who you are, and who they are, can be dissolved, especially if the love is really strong.
		You really identify with that person.
		So why couldn't it be possible that, you know, whether psychically or through remote feeling that people are doing, that if people are empathizing with a person in the past, or like you said, there were some people who were parallel who were living at the same time as them that you're deeply empathizing with, but it doesn't necessarily follow from that that you are that person.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, yes, I do.
		Interesting.
		You know, the program last night really brought all kinds of questions to my mind.
		We're not done with that man by a long, long shot.
		I mean, there are so, so many questions.
		Skype brings somebody named Action.
unidentified		Oh, this is Ross in St. Louis, Missouri.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ross, hello.
unidentified		How are you doing?
		Hi.
		Had a few things for you.
		Sorry.
		This is my first time Skype.
		So I'm having a hard time here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Uh-oh, now you're breaking up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're breaking up.
unidentified		Is this any better?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A little bit better, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		Well, I had a couple past lives for you that I thought that I'd like to hear about.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		With this kind of connection, I'll take one past life.
unidentified		Okay, that's fine.
		Just real quickly then, I meditated many nights in a row about trying to get to a past life.
		So before I'd fall asleep in that kind of gray area, I would listen to myself say over and over again what was past life that I needed to know about.
		And what it came out was nothing important.
		I was a monk on a road, and we were being invaded, and I was stabbed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I would say that's pretty serious, actually.
unidentified		Well, I mean, death itself may be serious, but the role, you know, I wasn't some pharaoh or a...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You were a monk.
		But yes, thank you very much.
		Look, that's pretty interesting stuff, right?
		If you were a monk, I say interesting.
		Very, very interesting, actually.
		At least you know more than I do.
		I just sort of generally know I was Asian.
		And I'm not even sure that I know that.
		It could, but it does seem likely, actually.
		You're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		Hello?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Art, indeed.
unidentified		Hey, I started listening to you, well, actually watching you in 2000 with your show with Ramona on TV here in Perum.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wait, wait.
		Ramona and I never, ever did a show here in Perrunk.
		So I appreciate the fact that you like the show.
		There is a couple that does a show or did a show some years ago.
		I don't know if they still do, but that wasn't me.
unidentified		Oh, well, I'm sorry I mistaken the chat.
		I lost my ass in 2003, so I exponentially enjoyed radio from that point on.
		And I'm so glad that you're back on, and every kudo you get is fully deserved.
		But the other thing I may I recommend a book?
		Yes.
		I don't read, of course, because I'm blind, but I listen to them about five a week for about 12 years now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, real quick, because we're out of break.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What's the name?
unidentified		Death in the Pines by Tom Hartman.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Death in the Pines.
unidentified		Sound people.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, we've got a break here.
		I appreciate all the minds.
		waiting for someone to ask.
unidentified		I know what you have because there's magic in my eyes.
		I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles.
		Thank you very much.
		Look at us, but do not touch.
		Better is my name.
		While midnight sweeps across America, you've found an oasis for the mind.
		To call midnight in the desert, please dial 1-952-CALL ART.
		That's 1-952-225-5278.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, on Fridays they get to play around a little more with bumper music, and I do play a little everything, actually.
		Fridays are open lines, and that's exactly what we're in the middle of right now.
		So if you are just joining us, here's the deal.
		Anything goes.
		All right.
		We've got a national line of Area Code 952-225-5278.
		You can call that one.
		You can call the special past lives line.
		That'd be Area Code 575-208-7787.
		575-208-7787.
		And first time callers to the program.
		Area code 775-285-5800.
		And the talk.
		No, I'm not going to do it again.
		Everybody just cringed, right?
		Hello there.
		You're on the air from, well, on our special line, actually.
		Hello.
unidentified		Yes, me.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You.
unidentified		Ah, well, what I figured was back in 66, 67, drove with my parents back to Maryland.
		We took the Deep South route.
		We were going to family reunion in Maryland.
		And starting in Mississippi, Alabama, up into the Carolinas, we would go through towns in little, you know, small towns.
		We were taking a lot of the blue highways because my dad liked to do that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you like chewing gum?
unidentified		Oh, sorry, it's gone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Like a fifth-grade smoking.
unidentified		I'm seriously chewing my nicotine gums and smoking.
		Anyway, we'd go into these little towns.
		I'd know exactly what was going to be there before we, you know, hit the main street.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Deja vu comes.
unidentified		In several towns.
		And I thought about that a long time.
		And it was all, it wasn't, you know, terribly long ago.
		It was mostly 20s and 30s, pre-depression.
		I said, now what would get me all over the South and moving like that all the time and being real familiar with all this?
		And I, well, a traveling salesman.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you think you were a traveling salesman in the South?
unidentified		Well, that's the only way I could explain it.
		Any idea what you were selling?
		No idea at all.
		It's just all these little towns going down.
		Oh, sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		But I just figured that the more I thought about it, the more I thought, well, what would get me around?
		And then I happened to be watching for about the third time, I was watching 76 Trump Mones.
		I was watching all these people on the train.
		They're salesmen, and they travel all over these places.
		They do it on a regular basis.
		Maybe that's what I was doing.
		I was born in 51, and my dad, now I never took to sales.
		I was terrible at sales all my life.
		So I tried it two or three times, and it didn't go.
		My dad was a salesman, and he knew all the little towns in central and northeast Texas and East Texas.
		And he just enjoyed the heck out of it.
		And he's quite successful with it, Tig.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're not violating Rule 3, are you?
unidentified		What's Rule 3?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Rule 3 is a two-drink minimum.
unidentified		I haven't touched anything, not with the medications I take.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I see.
		Okay, it's medications.
		Sorry.
		Okay, well, I get it.
		So you were a traveling salesperson back in, well, who knows when?
		Remember the days they used to knock on the door?
		Knowledge for your children, ma'am.
		I remember those days.
		Now encyclopedia salespeople are no more.
		I don't think they have them anymore.
		The internet has taken that all away.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Gosh, so many people calling at once.
		You're on the air.
		Good evening, morning, whatever.
unidentified		Hey, Jared, how are you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm quite well.
unidentified		Two drink minimum.
unidentified		I've got to start drinking.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Every time I say it, I say it one way or the other.
		People know what I'm talking about, but twist it on purpose.
		So now I'm saying it either way.
unidentified		Do you want to catch them, kill them, or feed him?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I don't care.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm not my brother's keeper in this case.
unidentified		Let him have a try a piece of bacon, fried ham.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you're talking about the mouse.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
		Look, if bread with copious amounts of peanut butter on it will not bring a mouse to Nibble, it can't be done.
		This mouse obviously came from outside and returned to the outside.
unidentified		The peanut butter that they're selling today, they don't like it anymore.
unidentified		I'm telling you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This is good, skippy stuff.
unidentified		Smooth.
unidentified		That's the same stuff I got.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		And I'll tell you, every time I use it, they pass it by.
unidentified		Oh, shoot.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're telling me mice don't like peanut butter anymore.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Come on.
unidentified		I don't know.
		It's something in the mix that they're using today.
		I'm telling you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, now you're scaring me.
		I mean, if a mouse won't go for peanut butter and you're telling me there's something in there, I don't buy that.
		I eat a lot of skippy.
unidentified		I'm okay.
unidentified		Put out a piece of bacon or a piece of fried ham or the last one that's.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm not trying to throw the last dinner for Abby Normal here.
		I was just trying to see if Abby Normal really was here.
		And I maintain that if Abby Normal would not go for the peanut butter, Abby Normal's gone.
unidentified		I bet you put out a piece of meat.
unidentified		You'll find it's gone in the morning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		All right.
		Well, I'm also not trying to attract Bigfoot.
		So I'm done.
		I've done as much as I can.
		Let me go overseas to Mark.
		I think in...
		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You sound like you're at the bottom of a barrel, Mark.
unidentified		Really?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now you sound a little different.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What are you doing?
unidentified		I'm sitting here with my iPad, and I just changed the volume control.
unidentified		Maybe that makes it better.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, here's the deal, Mark.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Find where the microphone is.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		Is that better?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is better.
unidentified		Okay.
		A couple of things.
		You just gave a clue to me why the mouse didn't come.
		You said you're using Skippy smooth peanut butter.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Sophisticated mouse art.
unidentified		He wants chunky.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Leave me alone.
unidentified		Okay, then I have something else for you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What's that?
unidentified		There was an emergency landing.
		I don't know if this was picked up in the U.S. press.
		An emergency landing of a Singapore Airlines freight plane this week carrying 1,268 live goats from Singapore to Malaysia.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I bet that must have been.
unidentified		Oh, go ahead.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Must have been some cleanup.
unidentified		The reason the plane had to make an emergency landing is that the methane gas alarms went off in the plane.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's why you said it must have been messy.
unidentified		Which leads to the question, Art, who cut the goat cheese?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Mark, go away.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let's go here to New Jersey, I think.
unidentified		Hello.
		Good morning, Art.
		It's asked from New Jersey.
		How are you tonight, sir?
		I'm okay.
		Wanted to touch on a few things with you.
		One great Dead Air Show last Friday night for us.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That was a lot of fun.
unidentified		I had called in and told you the story about the coffin being found in the backyard with the small child.
		Oh, yes.
		But look, anyway, a couple of things.
		One, when you had Bill Burns and the other gentleman on the same week, they were talking about the Amnibille case.
		Yes.
		Has anyone ever reached out to the children to ask them if they were told to lie about this or they went along with it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, here's the deal.
		I'm going to answer your question, all right?
		We're in touch with Christopher.
		And that's all I'm going to say right now.
		I repeat, we're in touch with Christopher.
		Now, I don't know whether he wants to come on the air.
		I don't know whether he wants to tell his story.
		But my producer is indeed in touch with Christopher.
		Lots.
		So we'll see what happens.
		But that was quite a show, wasn't it?
		Let's go to Skype and Tony.
		Hi, Tony.
		Hey, how you doing, Art?
		I'm doing okay.
unidentified		Good.
		I wanted to tell you how learning about my past life has affected my entire life.
		Okay?
		You still there?
		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I am.
unidentified		I spent a lot of time in the Navy when I was quite young, and I was on the flight deck of an aircraft carrier.
		I used to work there.
		And when we didn't have flight outs, I would go up and go to sleep in these nets that hung over the side that would catch you if you happened to fall off or get blown off.
		And I used to go there when there was no flight outs, of course, and jump into them and go to sleep.
		And it would be, you know, in the middle of the ocean, and it was unbelievable.
		The sleep was very, very heavy.
		And I would have some truly amazing dreams.
		And I used to dream over and over again about being up in a building on the second floor, in the balcony, painting a portrait of a woman.
		And obviously it was, you know, at one of the old country towns, small village.
		And it would wake me up.
		It was so strong.
		And what would happen would I be looking out onto the town square?
		Obviously the building was right on town square.
		And there was a fountain in the middle.
		And a light would start.
		It would start small, and it would get real, real bright until it blinded me.
		And I was painting at the time a portrait of a woman.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, we have limited time here, so let's rush to the conclusion.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And then I will rush to the conclusion if we can.
unidentified		Okay, I'm sorry.
		And what happened there is I actually made it, you know, of course, went to a lot of ports overseas, and I happened to come across a little village in Spain.
		And in that village, as I was walking through it with one of my shipmates, we seen a fountain in the middle of the square, and I recognized it.
		And that was it.
		That was the fountain.
		There was the building.
		And I knew that I was there at one time.
		Well, the way it affected me the rest of my life is I realized at that point in time, I still had a few more years left in the Navy.
		I realized at a point in time that my artistic talents that I had when I was younger, I needed to develop.
		And I did.
		And I spent my life doing artwork, actually military artwork.
		And it just was amazing.
		Now, what actually happened is after we did see the light go, after I'm sorry, after I did see the fountain where a light went off, I went into the backyard of the building and there was another fountain back there made out of a seashell.
		And I seen that in my dream originally.
		I wanted to cut the dream a little short for time.
		Okay.
		So I was convinced.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so that was like the second piece of proof you needed to decide you had indeed been there at a prior time.
		Yeah, okay, I get it.
		I'm not sure how I would handle that either.
		If you saw something absolutely that you had dreamt about or that was from a prior life, never had been to that location, geographic location before, ever, ever, ever, and yet there it was.
		So do you think this proves reincarnation?
		It's an interesting question.
		I've got a lot of people who have put messages speaking of Roger, for example, past lives, bunk.
		Hebrews 9, 2, 7, it's appointed unto men once to die.
		But after this, excuse me, after this, the judgment.
		And that would be the view of many, many people.
		It offends their religious sensibilities, right?
		So think about that a little bit.
		If reincarnation were real, well, it can't be, right?
		Not according to the Bible.
		We die but once, then we get judged.
		And it has to be that way.
		So this kind of talk is from a heretic?
		On my first time caller line, you are on the air.
unidentified		Arpell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		How you doing?
unidentified		Great.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How about you?
unidentified		Good.
		This is Rich from New Jersey.
		Okay.
		I wanted to ask you, that alien megastructure thing that's going on, do you think that could possibly be us from the future trying to signal us now?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, as I mentioned earlier, you know, the scientists at Greenback...
unidentified		You fuzzed out for me, like, through your whole comment, which sucked.
		I was waiting for somebody to bring that up.
		You fuzzed out on me, but I'm a time traveler, so I'll check back with you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, thank you.
unidentified		It's a pleasure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		Finally waiting for somebody to mention that.
		Actually, there is no new news.
		But I thought I would do that, and surely there would be somebody that would come along in the first hour and call me on that.
		But no, nobody did.
		I couldn't believe it.
		Maybe that's a lack of interest, or maybe it's religious objection, or maybe they just don't want to hear about it.
		I can't quite figure it out, the way people are reacting, or is it a non-reaction to this story?
		Now, there's no particular news tonight, but I thought I'd give that a try and see if it piqued anybody's interest.
		And it took over an hour for anybody to come along.
		Come on, folks.
		Give me a break here.
unidentified		Celeb, is that right?
		Yes, sir.
		Yes, sir.
		This is Caleb.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Caleb, all right, Caleb.
unidentified		I'm calling you from Silicon, Alabama.
		I've talked to you over the years, probably this is probably about my fifth time since 1999, and that's what brings me to my call tonight.
		My first time listening to you was when you interviewed Chris Carter back in late 99, and I've heard you mention it several times about the Exiles coming back.
		That's one of my favorite shows, and I know that you were involved with the sister show Millennium.
		I was just calling to ask you if have you thought about having Chris Carter back on the show?
		Or on the new show for the first time, I should say.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		I'm not supposed to talk about this, but yeah, I'm going to have him on.
		He's scheduled.
		How about that?
unidentified		That's beautiful.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I shouldn't have given that away, but you pried it out of me.
unidentified		I wanted to ask you another thing.
unidentified		Lance Hendrickson, I know you had him on the show a long time ago around.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Worked with him.
unidentified		Oh, yeah, I remember on Millennium.
		Yeah, that's one of my favorite shows.
		And I've had my fingers crossed that they're going to bring that character back into the new X-Files series, but I don't think they're going to.
		But that would be something that I would dream of.
		But anyway, I just wanted to call you and ask you that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I hate TV.
		I hate doing TV.
		I'm really serious.
		It's wild.
		It's fast.
		It's hurried.
		It's constantly redone.
		It's tough.
		I'm glad I'm in radio.
unidentified		Well, I'm glad you're back on the air, and that's really all I wanted to bring up.
unidentified		And I'm glad to hear the secret that you just divulged.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean the one you yanked out of me?
		Okay, well, I'm probably going to get in trouble for that.
		But how Could I not admit it when he brought it up?
		I can hear my producer now going, oh.
		Up to Canada, I believe.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, this is David from Nanaimo, British Columbia, Canada.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Glad to have you.
unidentified		Ark, I have a really interesting story about my mom and dad that I've been wanting to tell you for a few years now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Go right ahead.
unidentified		My mom and dad were born in the 20s.
		They were both in World War II.
		My dad from Canada brought my mom over from England.
		She was a war bride.
		Right.
		Back in 2006, my dad was in his 80s and he was suffering with severe dementia.
		It was really, really bad.
		And every once in a while, he'd have some lucid moments.
		It was really tough to communicate with him.
		But every once in a while for about five, ten minutes, he'd kind of come back and he'd know who he was and where he was and who you were.
		Sure.
		And during one of his lucid moments, he told me that, David, I've been unplugged.
		And they've called me back to the mothership.
		And I thought, oh, my goodness, what's going on with my dad?
		But anyways, jump back to the 40s when my mom and dad were married, bringing my mom over from England from World War II.
		My dad made my mom, or my, pardon me, my dad made my mom's dad a promise that he would never, never, ever, ever leave her no matter what.
		He says, you're taking my daughter away all the way overseas, and you know he'd only see your daughter maybe once or twice again in his life, so please don't ever, ever leave her.
		So my dad swore he would never leave him.
		And you know what?
		They had a real rocky marriage.
		They had one of the rockiest marriages you could ever have, but he never did go.
		Anyways, you go forward to 2007, this is when they were both in a nursing home, and my dad was slumped over and getting fed by the nurses in the nursing home.
		And all of a sudden, he stopped breathing, and he went blue, and the carriage called the nurse over, and turned out that they took his heartbeat and his pulse and his heart had stopped beating.
		So they wheeled him back to his room, and he sat in his chair, I'm thinking, for a few minutes, maybe five minutes, and then the head nurse came over, checked his vitals, and still it was exactly the same way.
		They put him back up on the bed, and sure as hell, sure as hell, he came to all of a sudden.
		And all of a sudden, he was breathing again.
		And it was about a month later after that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there's only one part of this that I don't get.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why would they sit him in a chair, as you mentioned, and not begin life resuscitation type things?
unidentified		Oh, I can tell you that.
		He was in the chair and they put him into the bed, and that's when he started.
		That's when you'd come to.
		He had a do-not-resuscitate order.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, okay.
		That answers it.
		Thank you.
unidentified		Yeah.
		So anyways, it was about a month after that.
		He had another lucid moment with my mom, and my mom said, John, look at you.
		You're all swunked over all the time.
		You're never able to communicate.
		How the heck are you able to do this?
		I mean, a month ago, you passed away, John, and now you're back to me.
		And he looked at my mom and he said, I know I was sent back for you.
		And about a month after that, my mom started getting sick.
		And it was about six months after that, my mom had died, and he died a few months after that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So he actually outlived her?
unidentified		He outlived her by about three months.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
		So it was his job to come back, collect her, and then go on himself.
		That's incredible.
		All right.
		Thank you very much for the call.
unidentified		That's actually quite a story, isn't it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's my job to come back for you.
unidentified		Wow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Think about that one.
unidentified		Okay, let's go where?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let's go to Lloyd.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Lloyd, you're on the air on Skype.
unidentified		Hi, Arch.
		Hi.
		Let me turn off my radio.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes, please.
		Thank you.
		So he's actually listening to the radio.
		That should be interesting.
unidentified		I have a question about last night's show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, before you go into that, sir, what station are you listening to?
unidentified		I'm listening on the app for Dark Radio, the radio app.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, so you're actually on the internet?
unidentified		Yes, on the internet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, all right, very good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead.
unidentified		I was wondering concerning reincarnation, and what about do-overs, suicide, if things aren't going well in your life, having personal problems or illness or whatever?
unidentified		If you believed in reincarnation, why wouldn't you just do a do-over and end it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's an easy answer to that because you can't be sure.
unidentified		Well, that's true.
unidentified		You sure can't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So, I mean.
unidentified		I was just wondering if that had been brought up by anybody, you know, because if you actually believed in reincarnation, I think that'd be a very viable option if things weren't going well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, certainly it'd be a test of faith, yes.
unidentified		Yeah, it sure would.
		Well, it's nice talking to you.
		First time I've ever called.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, thank you, and please call again.
		Yes, I would call that a test of faith.
		Not the right kind, but definitely a test of faith.
		Oh, I believe in reincarnation.
		Really?
		Well, under those circumstances, what are you doing here?
		You should be offing yourself, right, and trying to find out if it's a real or not.
		And have your do-over.
		Why don't people do it?
		Well, because you can't quite always be sure.
		All right, let's go to Gloucester, I believe it is.
		Where is that, Vermont?
unidentified		Oh, it's in Virginia.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Virginia, I'm sorry.
unidentified		All I can see on the phone is B. Well, actually, I drive a truck.
unidentified		I'd like to thank Kern and Bakersfield, California, 1180 for carrying your show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, yes, thank you, Kern.
unidentified		It's such a gift for so many people here back on the art.
		Thank you so much.
		Sure.
		And I'd just like to say, back in 2000, in December of 2000, I was putting up some Christmas lights at my home, and I got a pretty good electrical shock.
		And within a day, I don't know how this happened.
		Within a day, I was learning how to erase chemtrails with mirrors and an infrared light.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Erase chemtrails?
unidentified		Yeah, I found out how to erase chemtrails.
		Seriously.
		And I had some ill effects from the shock, and I found out later there's a group called the Survivors of Electrical Shock and Lightning Strike.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We just really, I can't get past the erasing chemtrails part.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So if you don't mind, before we go on, how do you erase a chemtrail?
unidentified		Well, what I did, I had two large mirrors.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		This came to me on two six-foot-tall mirrors that were four feet wide.
		And I kind of marked, I'd mark the sun, and then I'd angle the light from the sun at the tail of the chemtrail, which erased it like if you're erasing something with a pencil eraser.
		And it worked a day later.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Pretty cool.
unidentified		It was.
		It was.
		A day later, a Navy biplane buzzed the house about 300 feet over my house.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, how could you be sure?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Might I ask, please, how are you sure that you're on the chemtrail, that you've got the mirrors positioned properly so that your beam is hitting the chemtrail?
unidentified		All I can say is there was a gift given to me, it was like working art or something, it was like making art.
		Okay.
		Artwork like I was doing.
		And I also used at night, I used an infrared light, which I'm really surprised I didn't control for.
		I never pointed it directly at any planes or anything like that.
		And I would highly suggest no one doing this.
		It was mainly during the daytime.
		And it was on the coast of California.
		There was an intense, intense sun in the December of 2000.
		And among other things, I did that.
		And I learned about remote neural monitoring and the microwave auditory effect.
		And I'd just like to point out to your guests, anybody, anybody ever, like you're listening to the radio and then you just so happen to hear maybe what you're thinking about on the radio or something or you're thinking, you know, kind of, I necessarily do not believe in coincidences anymore.
		And I'd just like to, that's the main reason why I called was people should check out remote neural monitoring and the microwave auditory effect.
		And I learned so many things.
		And, you know, my neighbors probably thought I was nuts.
		I was giving, you know, this elect this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Probably some people listening right now may be thinking that.
		Listen, I've got to run, I've got to break, but I do appreciate it, Paul.
		Erasing chemtrails.
		Out there with mirrors, erasing chemtrails.
		Some might say.
unidentified		Some might say.
		Some might say.
		This is Midnight in the Desert.
		To call the show.
		If you're east of midnight, call 1-952.
		Call Art.
		If you're west of midnight, call 1-952-225-5278.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Messing with you folks a little bit.
		Yes, the white noise.
		That was me messing with you.
		Waiting over an hour until somebody finally got it.
		You know, there was no real news, but I thought it'd be interesting to say the scientist Green Bank said.
unidentified		Nobody called.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I was so disappointed.
		I mean, we're talking about this potential gigantic story, right?
		And it took over an hour for somebody to call.
		Over an hour.
		Shameful.
		Absolutely shameful.
		Anyway, just messing with you on a Friday night, folks.
		Let's go to Twin Cities.
		You're on there.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Say that last caller who was using mirrors to erase chemtrails.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Sounds like modern-day Archimedes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Kind of.
		Yeah.
		It was cool.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Until I thought about it for a while.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Focused mirrors, erasing chemtrails.
unidentified		Parabolic mirrors, probably.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, the way he had them set up, it seems so, yes.
		I was wondering how he knew when he got them focused correctly.
		I mean, did you suddenly get a spot on the edge of the chemtrail and then sort of like, I don't know.
		What is it where you can paint on windows, right?
		You can erase it a little bit at a time like that?
unidentified		I don't know.
		A couple of years ago, we had a terrible mouse infestation in my house.
		And I had a little bit of advice for you on trying to get proof.
		You take the peanut butter and put it in a corner.
		Mice, they travel along the baseboards against the wall.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sir, this is a mouse that had enough guts to come up on my equipment and stare at me.
		Now, I left that on the floor all night long.
		It would have been absolutely too much for a mouse.
		He would have eaten it.
		He didn't touch it.
		This mouse left.
unidentified		Well, okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're saying, put it on.
		I see what you're saying.
		But I'm saying, look, no mouse in the world could resist this.
		I don't care whether it's at the baseboard or out in the middle of the room.
		No way.
		It was silent, quiet in here all night long.
unidentified		That mouse should have eaten.
		All right.
		I used to have pet rats, too, so the idea that it would sit there staring at you isn't totally surprising to me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but okay, this is a mouse, though, coming in from outside, you know, just coming in and hopping up here, not more than 18 inches from you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You don't think that's strange?
unidentified		Well, we first discovered...
unidentified		Yeah, I used to, until an unfortunate incident happened.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't think I want to hear about that.
unidentified		Have you ever heard of rat bite fever?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, no, but it doesn't sound good.
unidentified		No, there was a kid in San Diego, I think, last year who actually died from it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I thought you had it.
unidentified		No, no, my m my ma actually got it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Your mom got rat bite fever?
unidentified		Mm-hmm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's a definite reason to uh have rat be gone.
unidentified		So yeah, I did uh nearly nearly killed her, actually.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Aye, yeah, yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That you've carried a lot of guilt.
unidentified		Yeah, well, actually, we had pet rats, but the one that bit her was actually one that we were holding over Christmas break that belonged to my sister's school.
		They were doing experiments, and they got a pair, and the female, they got a male and female to get babies, so we had the mom after she had the litter.
		And of course, you'd have to go in there to refill food and stuff, and she's very protective of the babies, and she actually bit all of us, but it was only my mom who got sick.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Boy, a prison can never have enough rats, huh?
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, listen, thank you very much for your call.
		And that is a sad story indeed.
		I don't really want rats, nor do I actually want mice.
		But anyway, no more to say.
		I think Abby Normal is gone because Abby Normal could not have...
		Hello there.
		You're on the air.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
unidentified		It's great talking to you again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And to you.
unidentified		Hey, I am curious about people who believe that the revelation of ETs will destroy religious convictions and the religious foundation of the planet.
		Okay.
		I don't believe that because, and maybe it's just...
		I am a very religious person.
		I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
		And one of the things that our faith teaches is that God created many worlds like our world and many people on those worlds like our world.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, to be fair, sir, the question that I asked these people was, if E.T. came down and we got in communication with this creature and this intelligent being from another world knew absolutely nothing at all about God or even the concept of religion, how would that affect you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And the religious people that I did ask that said it would destroy their faith.
unidentified		Gotcha.
unidentified		Okay, so that's a little bit different.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is.
unidentified		Okay.
		If you don't mind, the other thing I wanted to talk about.
		Well, wait, before you go on to the other thing, what about you?
		If that happened, how would that affect your faith?
		It wouldn't, because my thought would be maybe they at one point did believe, and they just fell away from believing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Like a lapsed Catholic.
unidentified		Correct.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, all right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, you had something else.
unidentified		The other was I really loved your show last night about reincarnation.
		Oh, and it was a great show.
		I listened to it on my Time Traveler.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		I wish I could have called in last night because I wanted to know if he believed a possible interpretation for past life regression is maybe these individuals aren't remembering past lives that they lived, but maybe they're remembering being guardian angels to those individuals.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, if that's true, how can you account for the fact that many of the people who he did take back into prior lives collected details?
		Of course, you know, tape machines were running and stuff like that.
		And they went and actually dug up proof of this prior life?
unidentified		Well, one of the other things that my faith teaches is that we lived as spirits before we came to this earth.
		And so my thinking is maybe, like, let's say before I came to earth, I was a guardian angel to, I don't know, Moses or Edison.
		And I was with them through many...
		I was just throwing out names, Art.
		All right, fine.
		I don't imagine that.
		I was just throwing out names.
		I see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Name-dropper.
unidentified		So I was just wondering, you know, maybe his interpretation of what these people are remembering isn't exactly on point.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, but again, you're brushing right past the important part.
		And that is that these people gave details of their prior lives.
		Then after the sessions, they would go and go and verify those details in libraries and city halls and stuff like that.
		That's pretty hard hitting.
unidentified		But if a spirit was assigned to be that person's guardian angel, wouldn't they have been with them throughout their life?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're really on this angel thing, huh?
unidentified		I'm just saying, maybe.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Maybe.
unidentified		Maybe that.
unidentified		That's all I had to say.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		I appreciate it.
		Thank you.
		I'm just saying the evidence that was gathered by these people was pretty impressive.
		It was Gregory Paxson last night, and you can be sure that we're going to have him on again.
unidentified		He was, you know, awesome.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wait, wait a minute.
		We've got to start all over again.
		You're not allowed to use your last name on the air.
		Only your first name.
unidentified		Well, actually, it's a handle.
unidentified		But the station is WTWW in Lebanon, Tennessee, on the Banks of the Cumberland River.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		WTWW covers the whole country and way beyond.
unidentified		And most nights it's just boom in here.
		It's a very powerful station and very good quality, by the way.
		Even a short wave considering the fading and all, it still does a great job.
		The really interesting thing about these megastructures is that to build a megastructure with regular material would, you know, the kind of material we're used to, not dark matter, but regular matter, would be very, very much intensive and tons and tons of material.
		It would be almost impossible to collect that much.
		But if you were to combine just a slight trace of regular normal matter in the form of metamaterial with dark matter and dark energy, you would make the perfect Dyson sphere because it would have virtually no mass.
		It'd be weightless.
		And then even with a massive conventional disruption, it would be huge.
		But it would still be able to drift and accidentally collide with Tammy's star if there wasn't some control system to keep the star centered in the middle of the sphere.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		One would imagine if an alien race could do all this, they probably could get the trains to run on time and avoid collisions.
unidentified		The way you could do that is to use dark energy to repel the Dyson sphere from the central star.
		And that would effectively make a cerebral control loop, which is keep everyone in its place and keep the star at the focus of the sphere.
		It would also allow you to create a wormhole and send the energy collected to other places.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There's now some indication that this object is a perfect, perhaps, triangle.
		And if that were the case, it would be sort of an indication that they want contact.
		In other words, you don't find triangles very frequently in nature.
		And so we're waiting to hear if that's what it is.
unidentified		That would be the perfect shape to signal geometry rather than just simple gravity.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There you have it.
unidentified		This is a perfect way to signal.
		It's also, if you were to do this with regular matter, it would create tidal forces.
		It would be huge, which again kind of indicates they're way beyond regular matter.
		They're using tachyonic matter, dark energy, and dark matter.
		Which kind of ties in with your show's name very nicely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It does indeed.
		Thank you very much for the call.
		Now, it would tie in with the name of the network.
		Everybody's got to get this straight, right?
		It's the Dark Matter Network, right?
		Actually, the Dark Matter Digital Network.
		The MDN?
		The name of the show is Midnight in the Desert.
		So it is sort of the name of the network that I think he was thinking of.
		Let's go here to the first-time caller line and say, hello, you're on the air.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		Great evening.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you indeed a first-time caller?
unidentified		Yes, I am.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wonderful.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		I'm in Cambria, California.
		Okay.
		Yeah, on the ocean.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And your first name is what?
unidentified		Sheila.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sheila.
unidentified		Okay, got it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Got it.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		I wanted to share with you a past life dream, which I had in 2002.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Right away, I'm going to ask you, you say it was a past life dream.
		So were you the center?
		In other words, were you, you, in the dream?
unidentified		Well, that's a good question, and it's really significant because that was the first thing that alerted me to the fact that it was a past life.
		I was the person in the dream.
		I was inside looking out.
		When I had the dream, I was walking down the street.
		I was carrying a black, small-ish cocker spaniel.
		There was a man walking next to me.
		It was windy.
		It was nippy and cold.
		And I remember thinking, this feels weird.
		I, Sheila, was in this body, but it didn't feel right.
		And I leaned back.
		We were walking down a street, and there was shops to the right with glass.
		And I leaned back and consciously looked in the glass, and I saw a woman with black hair looking kind of like the 40s.
		You know, the 40 look, my hair was rolled up and back, and the 40s, you know, look.
		And the man next to me was tall.
		He was thin.
		He had glasses.
		And he was leading a golden cocker spaniel.
		And I knew instantly there was some signature that came from him.
		And I knew he was my husband of present day.
		Wow.
		Yeah, exactly.
		And I went, wow.
		And all of a sudden, I had a download.
		And that's the only way I can describe it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A rush of information.
unidentified		Correct.
		And what I knew was that I was in Chicago.
		Now, I've never been in Chicago in this life.
		And I knew we were going to a hotel.
		Right.
		And I knew that I sang in a band.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Holy mackerel.
unidentified		Yeah.
		And he was the band leader, or he played in the band.
		I wasn't quite sure.
		He seemed to be kind of like my boss, but not exactly.
		And I knew that we were intimately involved as more than just friends.
		And he was married and not to me.
		And as we walked toward the hotel, it was, you know, the doorman that opens the door and it was a nice, it's a hotel, like in the movies, and he said hello, good evening, and we walked in.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sounded like he'd seen you many, many times before.
unidentified		Correct.
		And we were, there was a respect in his greeting.
		Okay.
		And I knew that we were on the Big Band circuit, whatever that was.
		I knew that we were in Chicago.
		We had been in, we started out in Florida.
		We went to, where was it in the South?
		Not New Orleans, somewhere in there, and then it came up to Kansas City, Chicago, and we were heading to L.A. At the time, I had a friend who was kind of an older, well she was an older lady, and her husband had been a band leader for MGM Grand.
		Yeah.
		And so she was familiar with those kind of things.
		She'd gone to parties with Ricky and Desi, or Desi and rather Desi and Lucille Ball and all that, and then that crowd.
		So I called her up and I asked her, I said, Polly, is there really a big band circuit?
		And she says, oh, yeah, there was a circus.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
unidentified		And so I know how I died.
unidentified		I died of pneumonia.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You didn't die of like an angry ex-wife or present wife actually.
unidentified		No, but it's interesting because I went in.
		I'm a writer, so I'm very curious-minded.
		And I went in and did some Googling, you know, searching.
		And I found, because I know he died of alcoholism.
		He was an alcoholic.
		And you're telling me you Googled up your ex-life?
		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That is so cool.
unidentified		His ex-wife.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That is so cool.
unidentified		And you know, you're right.
		Google knows everything.
		Yeah, I found a singer that was in his band.
		Not married to him, of course.
		And he was married.
		I found a singer, a band leader, that died.
		And he died of alcoholism.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, listen, I got it.
		I got to go.
		We're at a break.
		So thank you for the story.
		Right.
		Naughty girl.
unidentified		But what a story.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Google is good for some things, right?
unidentified		Google is good for some things, right?
		Google is good for some things, right?
		Come on, men and women.
		Skybox called Midnight in the Desert at MITD51.
		That's MITD51.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It never occurred to me that Google is an amazing resource.
		In other words, if in a dream or in whatever state you get an indication of another life with some factoid that you can check out, Google would be invaluable.
		So in this new day and age of Google, it may well be that we will, if we begin doing it, actually nail down this whole past life business and be able to prove it.
		There is nothing like Google.
		It virtually knows everything.
		Well, not everything, but close, right?
		So if you get a detail now, there's a great way to check it out.
		On, let's see, our first line.
		Not that it matters.
		In Reno, I think you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
		First time caller.
		Been listening to you for years.
		I'm a retired airline pilot.
		I'm your age.
		I'm 71 years old.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm 70.
unidentified		Oh, okay.
		I got you, got you by one.
		Sorry about that.
		Anyhow, this goes back to 1958.
		This is a past life experience, I believe.
		When I was a kid in San Jose in 1958, I was 13 years old.
		In those days, San Jose was pretty much prune orchards.
		And we used to play in this old barn.
		And on the wall of this old barn was a tombstone epitaph newspaper stuck on the wall of the gunfight at the Old Cape Corral with Wyatt Earp, which I thought was pretty unusual.
		You know, why wouldn't it be a local paper?
		But it was a tombstone epitaph.
		So I took it down, and in those days I used to hang out at a gun shop in San Jose, a fellow by the name of Dutra.
		He was a real good gunsmith.
		And I showed it to a man that was in there, and he said, can I borrow it?
		And I said, sure.
		Of course, I never got it back, right?
		I'm 13 years old.
		I was gullible.
		I gave it to this guy.
		And I never got the paper back.
		Okay, so here about six months ago, my wife and I are both into old Western guns from Italy, Uberti, and we go out in the desert.
		We dress up like cowboys once a month and go out.
		So anyhow, I got back into studying about White Earth.
		Like you say, Google.
		And the other night, I don't know if this was a dream or what, but I got woke up and White Earth was standing by my bed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, that's you know, that's not a prior life experience here.
		That's a ghost.
		White Earth would be a ghost.
		So White Earp was standing by your bed.
		That's a ghost.
		Sorry.
		I would be more than a little concerned about that.
		I wonder what would trigger something like that.
		Is it pure delusion?
		Or it doesn't sound like any sort of prior life experience to me.
		It sounds like the ghost of Wyatt Earth, right?
		Let's go to Cynthia on Skype.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		My craziest past life experience has been that I was having flashbacks with somebody else and with flashbacks in my current life.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're kind of breaking up on this a little bit here.
unidentified		Is this better?
		Well, it's okay as long as it's okay.
		Okay.
		That's all I can say.
		Anyway, I did some research on the internet and I found out that this person I was having the flashbacks of was actually had existed and had died two years prior to when I was born.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
		That one counts.
		That sounds like a prior life to me.
unidentified		Like I said, that's the craziest one I've had.
unidentified		I've had a lot of experiences that I believe were due to past lives, but that's the craziest one I've had.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, we appreciate the craziest, that's for sure.
		There's really got to be something to all this, right?
		All this other life experience that people talk about or think represents a prior life.
		And yet, I'm kind of biting on the whole thing.
		I think that reincarnation is probably the way that it is.
		I know it's going to disappoint a lot of people.
		And I've already got a lot of people on the computer suggesting to me that I have my religious views in a place where they shouldn't be.
		I'll leave it at that.
		Hello there.
		You're on the air.
unidentified		Good evening, Art.
		This is your buddy Billy.
		I've got another good scary one or a weird one for you here.
		I'm not sure if this is past lives or what it was, but I'm going to explain it here.
		You be the judge.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I am.
unidentified		Okay.
		Back in the 90s, they had this thing on Discovery Channel, I think it was, that they were talking about going into those little tiny tunnels in the pyramids with little robots.
		Yes.
		And they didn't know what it was for.
		Well, okay, I am pretty good at doing OBEs.
		I can get them awake.
		Not all the time, but if I get good.
		It's like your guest said last night that you can't be the driver and look at the scenery at the same time.
		That's right.
		So, yeah, so sometimes I have trouble.
		But that day, I had no problem.
		I OBE'd myself into that hole and down in there, and I went to the door and went into the one door, opened it up, went into the other door, opened it up.
		You're going to laugh.
		I opened it up, and inside of it was a whole bunch of people.
		Now, these were people from older ages.
		There was an old lady cooking, a heavyset old lady cooking.
		There was an old man sitting on the table, a guy that had one leg.
		There was a little kid huddled up in the corner.
		There was this weird-looking thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean to sound like a Star Wars bar?
unidentified		Almost like, yeah.
		There was straw strewn around on the floor.
		And the strangest thing, when they all seen me, they started singing, Hail, Hail, the gang's all here.
		And I just, now in my mind, you know, they kind of told me, you know, I wanted to know what it was.
		I went around and was kind of like, I don't remember.
		It was a long time ago.
		And I was kind of talking to some of them, and they said that they're me.
		And I just kind of, at one point, I'm just going to say.
		In other words, this was like an entire group of people.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wait, wait a minute.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		People who have actually been you in prior lives greeting you.
unidentified		Yes, that is what they told me.
		And at one point, I just got so freaked out, I kind of like backed out.
		And I know with OBEs, you back out of where you go, of where you go.
		Back in your body.
		You go backwards into your body.
		And I backed out of that tunnel so fast and popped back into my body.
		Pretty cool story.
		It took me about a week to tell my husband about it because I was just, I didn't know what to think.
		Hail, hail.
		The gang's all here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, yes, I've got it.
		Well, we're having quite a Friday, aren't we?
		Everybody's having fun.
		There's my gattle.
		I've got it.
		It doesn't sound very good, does it?
unidentified		Here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How's that?
		Also, not very good.
		That's kind of interesting.
		So these were all different ages that were greeting this lady.
		Pretty good stuff, actually.
		Let's go to Kurt on Skype.
unidentified		Hello?
unidentified		Oh, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
unidentified		I've got to turn this off here.
unidentified		One moment, please.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no problem.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, always prepare to turn off your device.
unidentified		It came quick.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, jumped over there.
unidentified		My lord.
unidentified		Well, do you still have that Firebird that you had back in the 90s?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Firebird Transamp, sir.
unidentified		Yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		98.
unidentified		98.
		So cool.
		Well, that is pretty.
		Yeah.
		Past life.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What about it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I have a past life.
unidentified		Titanic.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You were on the Titanic?
unidentified		Yeah.
		Wow.
		With my girl.
		As a boy, young boy, I had dreams of the Titanic.
		And then I did a research paper in junior high.
		And then another in 1985, in my senior year.
		And then after I graduated, they found it in September of 85.
		And then my girl that I love her birthday and James Cameron have the same birthday.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What happened when you went down?
unidentified		Just cold.
		Cold.
		I just remember icy cold.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Icy cold.
		Gotta go.
		Hello there.
		First time caller line.
		You are on the air.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
		Hi.
		Hey, how are you tonight?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm attentive.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What's up, sir?
unidentified		Hey, I just wanted to call and share this weird happening that has been occurring to me for about 10 years.
		And I really didn't.
		I'll meet people, just random people out in public that swear that they've met me before.
		I don't know if it's like one of these weird occurrences where there's like a doppelganger.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I suppose there could be somebody like that out there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, you don't get out a lot, but your doppelganger does, so people recognize you.
unidentified		I mean, and it's just random people that swear not that they've just seen me, but that they've met me.
		And it hasn't been, but for the past couple years that I've really started taking it into account.
		And it was really bizarre just recently.
		I mean, this happens probably at least once a month, sometimes up to four to five times a month.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Imagine how horrible it would be if your doppelganger went around borrowing money from people and never paying them back.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So, you know, all you'd get is people coming up demanding money.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
		Well, it hasn't been until recently, like within the past week, that I've had a very bizarre encounter that involves this happening.
		And it was at a convenience store.
		And I came out of the convenience store and went to get into the car.
		And some guy flagged me down.
		And he just started a conversation with me.
		He said, hey, how you doing?
		And he said, man, it's been so long.
		And I was like, you know, it's been like a year since I talked to you.
		And I've never seen a guy before.
		I remember faces.
		And so he was so excited to see me.
		I just acted like I knew him and talked to him for about 20 minutes.
		And then I get in the car with my girlfriend.
		And he's like, who's that?
		I said, I have no idea, but he knew me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So rather than going through the no, sorry, I don't know you bit, you just went along.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I guess he just thinks he had another conversation with the great guy that he once met, right?
unidentified		And he was so excited to see me that I didn't want to disappoint him.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Actually, that was a very kind thing of you to do, sir.
		Very kind.
		Let's go, let's see.
		I realize I'm not giving people enough time here.
		Let's go outside the country and say, hi, Sean.
unidentified		Well, hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Never mind.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Never mind.
		Aw, Sean.
		So that was just sort of a stupid trick.
		Aw, never mind.
		Really?
		That might have been a response to my trick, so I probably deserve that, right?
		Let's go to Brandon.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hi, Artie.
		Sharon, it's nice to talk to you again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good to have you.
unidentified		What prompted me to call this time was your show last night about past lives.
		Yes.
		And there's another radio show on the Dark Matter Radio Network called Epic Voyages.
		Are you familiar with that one?
		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry.
unidentified		Well, this particular show had a guest, Richard House, M.D., and he had talked about many things.
		I guess he had a book out called Between Now and When, How My Death Made My Life Worth Living.
		And he had touched on reincarnation.
		And what you've discussed tonight with some people made me think of this particular interview.
		And I think that, and you can tell me what you think, or maybe other people will call in, about the purpose of reincarnation or past lives.
		And what drew me into this particular man's story was that I guess when we are, if we do come back as different people in different circumstances, whether it's returning as someone who is extremely poor or returning as someone who's extremely rich,
art bell ▲ ● ▼		makes they think that we're supposed to grow or learn from each experience to become more, I don't know, more enlightened or more aware or closer somehow to ensure that kind of the story that always has gone along with reincarnation, that you are constantly improving yourself in each incarnation you're a little better, striving eventually to get to perfection and then move on.
unidentified		Yeah, and yeah, and I think there's some truth to that, don't you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There may well be.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know I'm nowhere near it.
unidentified		Well, I do have to say something too.
		Well, just maybe it's kind of these shows kind of open my mind a little more.
		I just recently became a Roman Catholic earlier this year.
		I'm an adult, obviously, but was baptized as an adult.
		And I'm still learning about the faith to a large degree.
		There's so much to learn, but this is something that I never really considered because this gentleman seemed to be so insightful.
		He had quite the career before he decided to write this book as a doctor.
		And some of the things he was saying just really made me stop and think about how, for example, ignorance leads to knowledge or suffering leads to bliss.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ignorance leads to knowledge and suffering leads to bliss.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're referring to another incarnation.
unidentified		Right.
		I mean, if I was to return to a, maybe if I go into another past life where there's extreme poverty or something like that, right, which I'm not obviously going through right now, but maybe if I had to, if I do reincarnate in that type of circumstance, I guess that would be a big learning experience as well, I guess.
		But I just wanted to call and share that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sorry.
		Well, thank you very much.
		I don't know.
		I don't know what the rules of reincarnation are or are not.
		Let's go to Skype and Sharky, is that right?
unidentified		Sort of right.
		It's just a silly name.
		Okay.
		Thanks for having me on, Mr. Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Happy.
unidentified		I'd just like to confess, actually, the first time I called in, I accidentally called you on the international line.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		My bad.
unidentified		You mean you didn't earlier with the white noise?
		I would have called in, and I was going to go nuts about it.
		I was really, really curious what you had to say about the superstructure.
		That's really been captivating me lately.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank God, somebody out there noticed.
unidentified		My God, did I ever notice?
unidentified		I went nuts about it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, thank goodness somebody out there did.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The evil Roland almost cut me off because he thought something was going wrong with the transmission.
unidentified		Him and I were on the same page there.
		But I remember when I actually first heard you many, many years ago, many years ago to me anyway, five years ago, I used to listen to you on internet radio.
		I don't remember exactly what the channel was called, but it was your old recorded shows.
		And they always left out the date on them.
		I was trying to call your old minds because I was so captivated by the show.
		And of course, I never figured that out because they always left the dates out.
		They cut that part out.
		But then I learned that you were actually coming back, and I'm so thrilled to hear you again.
		I really am.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm very happy to be here.
		And I think that this incarnation of the show, since we're talking about incarnations and so forth, is the best ever.
		It's clearly, to me, the best ever.
unidentified		Oh, certainly.
		And it was actually your show that really, really got me into thinking.
		I'm not a religious person.
		I was born to a family that had very heavy religion on both sides, both their mothers and their fathers, very devout.
		And for some reason, they just dropped that.
		They didn't carry on with that.
		So the whole matter of the afterlife never really, it was never really something I thought about until I started listening to your show.
		And the more I think about it, I always try to take a very, I guess, moderate approach, you know, so that if you decided one day just to speak to somebody about it, they wouldn't sort of, you know, blink their eyes and walk away.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, I think that we're upsetting a lot of people.
		Really, I do, based on the messages I'm getting because, you know, you can go to a part of the Bible where it says a man shall only live once and then be judged.
		That's it, you know.
		So if you talk about reincarnation, they get upset.
unidentified		You can't avoid it, but my take on it is very peculiar.
unidentified		And it's much based off the question, you know, when a tree falls in the forest and there's nobody around, does it really make a sound?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it does.
unidentified		And in my mind, though, I wonder, when we observe death from an outside perspective, when we're not the one experiencing it, it is to us instantaneous.
		The person is gone.
		They flatline.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No more.
unidentified		But in my mind, I wonder, us as three-dimensional beings, right?
		We experience space, we observe it.
		Our mind is inside of reality.
		And I wonder, to their perspective, if they have one, the person who passes, is time suddenly over to them?
		Because, you know, that's the fourth dimension we have, is time.
		And I wonder, if to them, is it all over instantly?
		Like, might as well the universe have ended.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Final great mystery, isn't it?
		We don't know the answer.
		And that's what causes me to explore things like reincarnation.
		It's just one possible answer.
		There are very few absolutes, right?
		Why we're here, what our mission is on earth, and what comes after, these are questions that probably are not going to be answered in this lifetime.
		So nevertheless, the urge is to try.
		So whether it's reincarnation, or it's ghosts, or it's NDEs, or it's so many other things, it's all looking in the same direction.
		And that's kind of, you know, what's next?
		Going to Laguna Beach, I believe.
		Hello.
		Hello, hello.
		Going once.
		Going twice.
		Go on.
		To New Salem.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Art Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That would be me.
unidentified		This is Bernadette from Into the Night Facebook fan page.
		That's a pretty big fan page, huh?
		You have so many fans.
		They just love you.
		You just would not believe it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There are quite a few different pages out there.
		It's amazing.
		But Into the Night.
unidentified		They all love you.
		They all love you.
		Very kind.
		It's an honor for me to talk to you.
		I have a quick story.
		My fiancé, unfortunately, passed away, and I dreamt of him.
		And I dreamt he and I had a long conversation.
		And at the end of the conversation, I gave him a hug, and I said, well, I love you.
		And I guess I'll see you in the next lifetime.
		Like I knew what I was talking about.
		And I woke up and I said, oh my God, what do you mean next lifetime?
		Do I have to redo this again?
		Is it a different life?
		I didn't know.
		But the end result is I'm not going to the light.
		Oh, really?
		I don't want to go to the light.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, you don't want to do it again.
unidentified		I don't want to do it again, and I think it's a trap.
unidentified		Maybe we're going through the birth canal again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You and John.
unidentified		We're coming right back out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You and John.
		Well, see, that bothers me a lot.
		I, too.
		Why?
		Well, because now you have put more doubt in my mind about the correct direction upon death.
unidentified		I just think it's a trap.
		I don't know.
		I don't know.
		I'm going to hold off.
		I'm not going to the light.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, if you go any other light.
unidentified		What are you going to do?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I haven't made up my mind yet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I guess, you know, when the moment comes, I will choose a direction.
unidentified		All righty, sir.
unidentified		Always a pleasure to talk to you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Uh-huh.
		Have a good trip.
		Wherever it is you're going.
		I had a feeling she was quite serious.
		She didn't want to do it again.
		And in a way, I get that too.
		and so she intends to go to the darkness.
unidentified		Amen.
unidentified		Amen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's just one of those things that you can't unhear.
		There are certain things you cannot unsee, some things you cannot unhear, some things you just can't forget.
		That's one of them.
		And thanks, ma'am.
		I really appreciate that.
		Sort of backed up what John said.
		Let's go to our first time caller line.
		You're on the air.
unidentified		Hello?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Hi.
		I was just calling because you're talking about the past lives.
		And I have this episode in my head that I've had from like a decade ago, I guess, that you had.
		It's always been running through my head.
		So I just thought I'd call in and talk about it for a second because it's just, I think it's a pretty amazing story.
		Go ahead.
		It was about a lady that, I guess she was the assistant to time travel, the guy that invented the time machine in the future, supposedly.
		Who are we...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Who are we talking about here?
unidentified		She was like a lady that...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And a lot of guys about that.
unidentified		Yeah, he was studying a lot of alien abductions for all the common aliens.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, are you talking perhaps about Dr. Jacobs?
unidentified		Maybe that's who it was.
unidentified		And he had a book about it, and it was like all the different kinds of common, you know, and this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Those, to my guess, have books.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But Dr. Jacobs talked about abduction and also talked about half-human, half-alien creatures that he believes are on Earth now.
unidentified		Yeah, I think that might have been...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And he would psychically talk to her, but not verbally.
		And there's soldiers around the ship and stuff.
		And he would show her on a screen her like other lives and stuff.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now you're kind of getting out there where I'm not so sure.
unidentified		And in her future life, she had been the assistant to somebody, or she was going to be the assistant to a guy that invented the time machine.
unidentified		And he would take her back to, like, he had a project with the time machine where he would take her back in time to this place where they, which was the pyramids.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've got to be honest with you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You've completely lost me.
unidentified		Oh, really?
		Okay.
		Yes, totally.
		Okay.
		It's a pretty crazy story.
		I don't know.
		But, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it is.
		And I'm sorry I don't recall it.
		I have had many, many people on the show telling, you know, somewhat tall tales, some of which could be absolutely true or others.
		But that sounded like sort of a compilation of many people that we've had on the show.
		And I'm not exactly quite sure what he was talking about.
		Somebody else will call and say, oh, I knew.
		Hello, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		This is Jackie.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Jackie.
unidentified		Oh, hi.
		That's my name in this life.
		And my last one, it was Catherine.
		Really?
		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm very interested in how you can possibly know that.
unidentified		Well, here's how it all started.
unidentified		When I was a teenager, I had a dream.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Listen, can you hold on?
		Can you hold on?
		I didn't realize we were this close to a break, but I have to break.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They make me do it.
unidentified		Thank you.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We'll pause for some information and entertainment, and we'll be back with Jackie.
unidentified		Jackie.
		I was your crown I was your crown Nobody knows it
		To initiate a dialogue sequence with Art Bell, please direct your finger digits and call 1-952-225-5278.
		That's 1-952.
		Call Art Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		I guess I better straighten something out.
		Looking at the wormhole screen, everybody's saying, Art, where are your cats?
		Why didn't they get the mouse?
		Okay, so here's the deal, folks.
		I built my radio studio in our guest house.
		We own A house adjacent to the main house, another whole house, that's right.
		And I bought this house originally so I could put up my antenna.
		Pretty weak reason to buy a house, huh?
		It's actually the truth.
		I bought the house just so I could extend my antenna.
		So we thought, well, we'll use it as a guest house.
		And rarely have we ever had that opportunity.
		A few times, Bob and Sucrane and a few others, but basically it stands idle.
		So when it came time to do the radio show again, I thought, well, I certainly can't do it from the main house because my studio or radio room, which is now my amateur radio room, is adjacent to my daughter's room, who is, you know, just eight years old.
		So I would obviously wake her up, and that led to the decision to build the studio here in the guest house.
		So I hope that straightens it out.
		I really do.
		And let me go ahead and grab this overseas call and go back to the lady that was on the phone.
		You're back on the air, ma'am.
unidentified		Oh, okay.
		I was telling you, this is kind of how it started for me.
		I had a dream when I was about 18, and it was so intense.
		And when I woke up, I felt as if I had just been on fire.
		So I woke up, and I was in a sweat, and I was panicked, you know, how you would be if you were actually burning.
		And then it just stuck with me.
		And then about seven years later, something like that, I had the same dream again.
		And I thought, okay, this is weird.
		So I started thinking about it more, like, why would I be burning up and what was going on?
		And so it just stuck with me.
		And I kept thinking about the reasons why that would be happening and what the room looked like.
		And I remember thinking that I wanted to open a window.
		And then so I was like looking toward the window and it started from there.
		I kind of saw the inside of the room, saw the outside of the house, and started seeing, you know, things about that experience there.
		And I started seeing myself sitting on a stone wall.
		And I was laughing and I don't remember why.
		And then so memories started coming back.
		And I realized that I lived in a town called Stonewall, Mississippi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Yeah.
		And so I started talking to my husband.
		And he said it kind of sounded familiar to him too.
		And so we were kind of shooting ideas back and forth.
		And some of the things that he remembered were what I remembered.
		And we realized that we knew each other then.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In another life.
		Oh, man.
		That's a cool story.
		That really is a true story.
unidentified		20 years ago.
unidentified		Yeah, and we realized we've been married before in several different lives.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Holy man.
unidentified		And I've had this dad, same brother.
		Yeah, and even my son.
		This is really hilarious.
		And one of my lives, one of my sons was my horse.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, we're going to, I've got so little time left, so I'm going to have to leave it there.
		But that was a good story.
		Can you imagine a man and woman sort of slowly, detail by detail, realizing that they were previously married?
		My goodness.
		Pretty good one, I would say.
		Let's go to the phone and say hi.
		You're on the air.
unidentified		Hi, Eric.
unidentified		This is Wetz from Fort Wayne, Indiana.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hey there.
unidentified		Hey, how are you doing?
unidentified		Will.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I said I'm doing well.
unidentified		Oh, well.
		Hey, I'd like to tell you about an experience I had.
		Two years ago, I was at home sitting in a chair, and I closed my eyes, and then all of a sudden, I am on a slab, and I can't move.
		There are two beings to my left.
		They are like machine creatures.
		And they are communicating to me, telling me to stay calm, everything's fine.
		And I like ask them what they are, and they tell me we are all one.
		And I look around, and there's like this bustling city around me.
		There are like creatures moving about, like living lives, apparently.
		And everything looks more real than this reality ever could.
		And then I can't...
		Yeah.
		And I kind of feel like we're those machines living in a reality that's sort of built by them so we can experience biological life.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's pretty interesting.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You don't find after that you get a craving for little three-in-one oil or something?
unidentified		No, but I do feel better about the afterlife.
		I don't feel scared or anything about dying.
		I do believe we continue beyond this existence for sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Still worried, thank you, about the lady turning to the darkness.
		Because, said she, she doesn't want to do it again.
		Ron, hello on Skype.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
unidentified		How's it going?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's going great.
		Paul from Ex Montana.
		I wanted.
		Who told that craft was a triangle?
		Sir, you're kind of all broken up on us here.
unidentified		Am I?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Something about a triangle?
unidentified		Yeah, you said that the Teresdan sphere was shaped as a triangle.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, no.
		Please listen on the air.
		We can't continue with that.
		What I said was there are some scientists, this was a legit story the other day, not what I did earlier today.
		There are some scientists who believe that if it turns out to be a triangular shape, you know, there's in essence a perfect triangle, that that would be the sign that it's an alien civilization and they wish to communicate.
		You would not find perfect triangles in nature.
		That was sort of the angle of the discussion.
		So if it does turn out to be essentially a perfect triangle, that's an alien civilization trying to say hello, trying to say, hey, we're out here, and so forth.
		We'll see.
		The big dishes are pointed that way.
		Let's go to Royal Oaks, Michigan.
unidentified		Royal Oak, Michigan, I guess?
unidentified		Yes, can you hear me, Art?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I hear you, sir.
unidentified		It was a, I guess, about eight months ago.
		I had a strange dream.
		And in this dream, I was in what I think was a museum.
		And I saw a whole bunch of, I think it was a museum or something built out of someone's home.
		And I saw a lot of what I think were African artifacts.
		And someone handed me a business card.
		And on this card was a name that was spelled O-N-E-S-I-L-E.
		And I'm not quite sure how that's pronounced.
		And I remember what the building sort of looked like.
		I'm not sure where it was.
		But after I woke up from that dream, I Googled that name.
		And it's a first name, actually.
		And it appears to be French.
		And the thing is, is that I found several spellings of that name, including O-N-E-S-I-L-E, as well as O-N-O-N-A-Z.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are we going with this?
unidentified		Well, my point is, is that I did not know this was a name.
		I had never seen this name before.
		I had never heard this name before.
		I did not even know how it was pronounced.
		But it was, in fact, genuine.
		And it was something I'd seen in a dream or heard in a dream that I'd never heard of in real life ever before.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And when you checked it out?
unidentified		And when I checked it out, I found that on ancestry.com, I found, I guess it's pronounced on the side, on the ceiling.
		And I'm not sure what that's all about.
		But it is, in fact, it's something had only heard for the first time before.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm afraid I'm all lost.
unidentified		I'm lost with what you're saying.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm not getting what you're saying.
		I mean, I hear what you're saying.
		I just don't get where you're going.
unidentified		My point is, I've seen or heard a name in a dream before.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Got that.
unidentified		And I've never heard it in real life.
unidentified		I did not even know it was by a name.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, you went to ancestry.com and you found somebody in your family with that name?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is that what you're saying?
unidentified		Not in my family.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not connected to you at all.
unidentified		No.
unidentified		And that seems significant to me in the sense that you've heard a name you've never heard of before.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And then you find it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've got it.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't think that that necessarily adds to the conversation of reincarnation exactly.
		But it was sort of an interesting story.
		In Las Vegas, you're on the air.
unidentified		Las Vegas?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, hello.
unidentified		Oh, good.
joe wbet in las vegas ▲ ● ▼		This is Joe on the other side of the hill.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Got it.
joe wbet in las vegas ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		First, I want to compliment you.
		You're one of the very few hosts that actually say your piece about global warming.
		And I'm very proud of that.
		I'm very proud of you.
		Very few people, as you know, conservatives talk radio that this is all a myth.
		So I applaud you.
unidentified		That's because most of talk radio is right-wing politically.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're kidding me.
joe wbet in las vegas ▲ ● ▼		I never thought.
		Come on.
		And secondly, your guest the other night with regression, I'm a very cynical person.
		I'm very skeptical about a lot of things.
		And of course, I love your radio program because it really puts those antennas up.
		But that gentleman was so credible and so believable because he would admit things that he would simply say, I don't know.
		And that's such a refreshing thing to hear.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I love that.
		I love it.
		When people don't know and actually just say, I don't know, I love it because too many guests, I'm sorry to say, are in the category of whatever you ask them, if they don't know, they'll make it up.
joe wbet in las vegas ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they bloviate.
		Their authorities are everything, and they pinpoint it.
		But this guy...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There's not many authorities.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But this fellow was really, really good.
joe wbet in las vegas ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I certainly hope you have him on again.
joe wbet in las vegas ▲ ● ▼		I just want to let you know that my wife and I, our favorite thing in bed is to listen to you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Just to listen to me?
		Well, your bedtime needs some work there, my friend.
		While I'm glad you're listening, I don't know that I'm glad that I'm your favorite thing.
		Anyway, hello, you're on the air.
		Louisville, Kentucky.
		Yes, yes, yes.
unidentified		Yeah, I was just wanting to comment on the megastructure.
		If you imagine a star like our own, and then take a planet Size of Earth, and then you have a megastructure going out about that distance.
		You'd have to imagine the Earth being the size of the molecule of that structure.
		So the amount of matter that would be required to make it would constitute millions, if not billions, the entire mass of several star systems.
joe wbet in las vegas ▲ ● ▼		It would.
unidentified		So that alone kind of makes it unlikely.
		However, you can also just snap your fingers and just have it appear, poof, there it is.
		The gravity, its own gravity, it would cause it to collapse in on itself.
		It would fuse, and in all likelihood, go ahead and within this couple minutes, create a pretty powerful singularity.
		In other words, even if you could just, yeah, even if you could just magically make it appear, it wouldn't last very long.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't know.
		Listen, we're talking about the possibility of an alien race that would be able to control the power of a star, as described by Dr. Kaku, right?
		So one would imagine they might have ways around these things.
unidentified		If they could manipulate the basic principles of the universe, I don't think they'd bother making megastructures.
		But, you know, I'd say the likelihood is that what you have is a very dense cloud structure around the star.
		Imagine like the rings of a planet like Saturn.
		Same kind of thing, just, you know, they never thought about it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The problem with that theory, Siri, is that these light dimming and then brightening is very sharp, indicating that it's a very sharp structure of some sort where a cloud of some kind, as you're talking about, would lead to a much slower dimming and a much slower brightening as you came in and out of something that was of various density.
unidentified		Yeah, I understand.
		When I say cloud, I'm using that as to explain the density would be such as to be allowed to exist.
		Basically, like the thickness in relation to the rings of Saturn.
		So even though it's very thin, if Saturn was putting out flight and you were getting the dimness from it, it would be very sharp in and out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Well, that remains to be seen.
		It's a fascinating adventure we're on right now, isn't it?
unidentified		Yeah, but mainly, you know, it's the fact that that much matter couldn't be there without itself becoming, at the very least, be careful about saying couldn't be.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Almost anything could be.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What we need to do is keep doing the science and find out what really is.
unidentified		Well, I'm a big science fiction buff, so I would love it that there was such a thing.
unidentified		Just unfortunately, my physics training didn't allow for it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No?
		Well, your physics training should allow for the possibility that somebody is thousands and thousands of light years ahead of us.
		Which they would be.
unidentified		In theory, if they could make something thin enough, I mean very thin, but then you'd have the problem of you really wouldn't hold to it if it was a structure like, let's say, you wanted to have it where you were on the side that was facing the star.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sir, what do you think would happen if I could take my iPhone 6 back and show it to somebody in 1900?
unidentified		I'm sure they would be impressed, but it would still follow the laws of physics.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It would.
		Not to them.
		Not to them, sir.
		To them, the laws of physics at that time absolutely made impossible something that complicated and small.
		I mean, they weren't even.
		Anyway, I hope you get what I'm talking about.
		So, no, yeah, maybe unlikely, but hold out the possibility it could be.
		I can't believe this program is ending.
		They all do this.
		They end too quickly.
		So, everybody have a wonderful weekend in all 25 time zones out there from the high desert.

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