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Nov. 6, 2015 - Art Bell

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Art Bell MITD - Open Lines Past Lives Line

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	From the high desert and the great American Southwest, I bid you good evening, good morning,
	good afternoon, wherever you may be in the world's 25 time zones, each and every one
	covered like a blanket by this program, Midnight in the Desert.
	I'm Art Bell, and it is my pleasure to be here with you.
	Uh, this night is special, of course, because it's your night.
	No guests.
	We hold Fridays, as a general rule, open for no guests.
	In other words, it's your night.
	Say what you want.
	Alright, so, here's the way it works.
	We have rules.
	No bad language, and one call per show.
	Now, on Friday nights, we also try to include the two-drink minimum.
	No, wait.
	Two drink maximum.
	You know, I watch the sites and people, I think, intentionally get that rule backwards anyway, right?
	Convinced of it.
	So, I can make the rule, but, you know, I just, I don't think it's going to get followed.
	At least that's my experience from previous weeks.
	I would like to thank, as always, Tellos, Joe Talbot, for the great sound.
	Keith, my webmaster of a long time.
	Heather Wade, my producer, and boy does she do a good job.
	StreamGuys, LB.net, they get it to StreamGuys, they get it to you.
	Sales, Pete Eberhardt.
	TuneIn Radio, and of course our own Amy Martin News.
	There are a couple of items before we open the lines to heaven-knows-what.
	Today, as you know, we've been following star KIC 8462852, and guess what, folks?
	greenback scientist uh... the uh...
	of the scientists monitoring in west virginia
	have found and intelligence so there you have it
	it.
	Okay, let's now look at some back-to-earth stuff.
	First of all, this is of no earthly interest probably to anybody, but the other night during an interview, I swear to you all, A little mouse came up not more than 18 inches from me and stared at me right in the eye and I looked at it.
	We sat there and looked at each other for a little while and I was so blown away I didn't know what to do.
	I started to reach for my iPhone 6 to get a picture and this mouse I've named Abby Normal was gone.
	So, last night I I took the napkin that had the bread and a copious amount of peanut butter on it, and I laid it on the floor.
	Now, I left the studio, empty, with this on the floor.
	I mean, I, even I could smell the peanut butter, right?
	I came back tonight, fully expecting to see it shredded around on the floor, and it hadn't been touched.
	Not.
	Even.
	Touched.
	So what does that tell you?
	Not even touched.
	This means to me this mouse is not in the house.
	This mouse came somehow from outside to see me, probably never saw a human in its little life, and left again because there is no way, no way that could have been on the floor untouched all night long.
	So, makes it just a little weirder if you ask me.
	I hope, frankly, that Abbie Normal comes back one of these days, for some reason.
	All right, let's actually look at the real news now.
	President Obama has said no to the Keystone XL pipeline, declaring it would undercut U.S.
	efforts to clinch a global climate change deal at the center of his environmental legacy.
	His legacy, huh?
	So, no pipeline.
	I don't know how I feel about that.
	On the one hand, you know, we probably should build it.
	I think.
	I think the President's wrong.
	In a very abrupt turnaround, after, well, a brief, secret, ultra-secret consultation with the US and London, England, Russia on Friday suspended all passenger flights to Egypt, After days of resistance, apparently what we told them convinced them.
	They looked at the black boxes in the plane, and they found absolutely nothing but what they say is the sound of an explosion.
	So... And plus ISIS cut a new video, again claiming responsibility for it all.
	So now what's going to happen?
	Is Russia going to begin to bomb ISIS, as well as the rebels, trying to overthrow Assad?
	I don't know.
	We'll have to wait and see.
	Knowing the Russians, though... Well, let's put it this way.
	In my opinion, frequently when we hit back at somebody, we do it by slapping their wrist.
	The Russians have a different mentality about hitting back.
	So, if you suddenly see, you know, some significant geography in the Sinai missing soon, you'll know they reacted.
	This is kind of an interesting story.
	Fred Dunham A former employee of the EG&G Special Projects who worked as a security guard at Area 51, just over the hill from me here, has been successful in claiming compensation for serious health issues which have affected him as a result of his time there.
	This case has now been taken up by Donna Hand, a workers' advocate of Tampa who Contests the Department of Energy's stance that EG&G is not listed as contractors approved for the compensation program.
	And, of course, disputes that, and has documents to support it.
	So, we'll have to see what happens there.
	In political news, Trump is up a little, Carson down a little, trying to answer questions about his past, and that's kinda it.
	There's some people who got booted out of the next debate.
	Well, booted out is an unfair, violent-sounding term.
	They weren't booted out.
	They were just demoted.
	And even Chris Christie didn't like that word, demoted.
	He said transferred.
	So it's like when they come to you in school and say, listen, I know you're in the fifth grade, but we're transferring you to the fourth.
	All right, open lines.
	Anything you want to talk about is fair game.
	I am going to open up a special line, sort of in dedication to the quality of last night's show.
	My God, it was a good show.
	We talked about past lives.
	And it really, really, really was interesting.
	God, what a show.
	If you're not a time traveler, Oh, you should be.
	You have access to all our past shows.
	You can listen to them on your iPhone or your Android device or whatever.
	You know, we've got an RSS feed and these are good shows.
	Last night was just over-the-top good.
	We talked about past lives.
	And so that prompts me tonight to open one line at least For people who think they know what their past life was.
	Now, another reason I'm doing it is because he told this story last night about skiing.
	Remember?
	Putting on the skis and going rocketing down the slope.
	And he knew what he was doing.
	And he had learned that in a past life, right?
	For me, I think that I was Asian.
	I really, really do think that, folks.
	I was Asian.
	I like Asian culture.
	I love Asian food.
	I eat Asian rice virtually every night.
	I spent a lot of time in Asia.
	My daughter is named Asia.
	I could go on.
	Asian women, of course.
	So, all the way around, I think that in a past life I probably was Asian.
	I've told my wife that a million times.
	She's Catholic.
	I don't know how she is on prior lives.
	We'll have to talk about that.
	Anyway, if you think you know what you were in a previous life, the number for you is area code, are you ready?
	575-208-7787.
	Once again, area code 575-208-7787.
	I will also open the first time caller line.
	again, area code 575-208-7787. I will also open the first-time caller line. If you have
	never called this show, it's area code 775-285-5888.
	I'll try and repeat this.
	I know I forget.
	775-285-5800.
	I guess I need to have Ross cut some more with these new numbers.
	And by the way, when I pick up your line, if you are listening to a radio station, please give their call letters.
	Give them credit.
	Okay?
	I also forget to do that all the time.
	We've got more and more coming on all the time.
	So give their call letters if you can.
	And something else is nagging at me that I was supposed to do, but I don't recall what it was.
	So we'll go to break.
	There is something else.
	What was it?
	This is what happens when you get old.
	You know, I'm just gonna go ahead and go to break.
	Think about what it was.
	Maybe it'll come to me.
	Through the grey fog.
	Maybe.
	We'll be right back.
	This is Midnight in the Desert.
	The devil went down to Georgia.
	He was looking for a soul to steal.
	He was in a bind because he was way behind and he was willing to make a deal.
	When he came across this young man sewing on a fiddle and playing it hot.
	And the devil jumped up on a hickory stump and said, boy, let me tell you what.
	I guess you didn't know it, but I'm a fiddle player too.
	...in the night.
	I want to love you, feel you, correct myself around you.
	I want to squeeze you, please you, I just can't get enough.
	And if you are real strong, I'll let it go.
	I'm so excited!
	Midnight in the Desert doesn't scream balls.
	We trust you, but remember, the NSA.
	Well, you know.
	To call the show, please dial 1-952-225-5278.
	That's 1-952-CALL-ART.
	Yes, um, alright, so I thought he was screwing with me, actually, with the psychic treadmill repairman, really.
	I was sure he was messing with me, but no.
	Alright, so, uh, I meant to finish up on two things.
	Uh, it did cross the gray matter, and I got it.
	Uh, time travelers, um, get all kinds of, I don't know, advantages, frankly.
	You can download any show, RSS, play it any time you want.
	You can use the wormhole, which I've got right next to me, and read from all the time.
	Somebody wants me to have a section of the show called Wormhole Corner.
	I don't know.
	That's kind of corny.
	Where I just sit and read wormhole messages.
	But, maybe.
	I'll have to come up with a, I mean, wormhole corner.
	I'm not going to call it that.
	Sounds like out of the 1950s or 40s or something.
	If you want to become a Time Traveler, you go to Artbell.com.
	My website.
	Artbell.com.
	And then it'll be right there in the eye.
	Join the Time Travelers.
	And you get a lot of stuff for it.
	Including my gratitude.
	Um, so there was that, and then, the talk.
	I get so many requests for this.
	I mean, it's just unbelievable.
	People just writing me emails, phone calls, it never ends.
	Even a few texts from people I know wanting the talk.
	Okay, here's the talk.
	You can sound better Better than the people on the phone?
	They sound pretty good, because we've got a superb phone system, actually, here.
	And, by the way, that's really true.
	We do.
	But you can sound better on Skype.
	More authoritative.
	Clear.
	You know, the whole ball of wax.
	And it's so easy to do.
	If you've got a portable device of some sort, even, frankly, your computer, it doesn't matter.
	The world has changed.
	I know you've got one of them.
	So download Skype.
	It's free.
	Skype is free.
	All the way around.
	Free.
	Always free.
	Of course, Microsoft might change that, but for now it's free.
	And then you can put in, um, put us in there.
	If you're in North America, meaning America and Canada, please enter, you know, as though you were a new contact.
	There's a little plus sign for it up there.
	Put in MITD.
	M-I-T-D-5-1 for North America.
	M-I-T-D-5-1 for North America.
	The rest of the world?
	M-I-T-D-5-5.
	And even if you don't call right away, it's alright.
	You'll have it in there in your contacts after you've done that and you can go back to it and just go and call us for free from anywhere, virtually anywhere in the world.
	With that in mind, let us begin.
	It's hard to know where to start.
	Everything's full, as you might imagine.
	So let's, I guess, go here.
	Rochester, New York, I'm guessing.
	Rochester, New York.
	Yes.
	Yes!
	Yes, turn your device off, please.
	Okay.
	I can hear it in the background.
	Sorry about that.
	Can't have that.
	I mean, once you're on the line, you don't need it.
	You can hear it on the phone.
	Absolutely.
	Okay, good.
	Thank you.
	So what's on your mind?
	Well, it's in regards to last night's show.
	I actually had a question, and I don't know if it's something that you would be willing to answer, but I was wondering if you think that past lives influence your future or present life, and if there's signs, like how can you tell if it does?
	Okay, well obviously I'm not the expert, but I think that's what it's all about, hun, that past lives influence Your current life.
	So the answer is yes and yes.
	But if you have no idea what your past lives were, are there some kind of signs that you can look for that show?
	I don't know.
	I find it a little... I don't either.
	I mean, if you find yourself drawn to a cat box, then, you know... Right.
	Other than that, look, I'm not the expert.
	I'm just the talk show host.
	Right, right, right.
	Well, I appreciate the time.
	You really don't find yourself drawn to cat boxes, right?
	No, not at all.
	Okay.
	Other than I do like cats, but not as one.
	It's not like when you see one.
	Anyway, go ahead.
	No, no, no, no.
	My husband, he was dying to say hello.
	Do you mind if I put him on?
	I don't know.
	Does he sound pretty good?
	He does sound pretty good.
	All right, I'll put him on.
	All right, thanks so much.
	Hi Art, this is Dan from Rochester and I'm a very, very Excited new caller to the show.
	I just started on September 18th and have listened to several of your past interviews and I think you're just an incredible person for turning everybody on.
	Thank you.
	It's kind of an eclectic show.
	I think people forgot that over the years.
	I do all kinds of things.
	Not just paranormal, not just anything really.
	Whatever I find cool and interesting.
	Exactly, and it peaks the listener's curiosity and it challenges their intellect, quite severely in some cases, but in a great way.
	Everything is very, very positive.
	And we're very anxious to sign up and donate and be a part of it.
	It's fantastic.
	Well, you don't have to donate, but if you sign up, it's a hell of a deal.
	Really, it is.
	I mean, you get all these past shows, and I think we're coming up on like 75 shows in this incarnation right now, and it is full of interesting stuff.
	So you can just like download it and listen to it at your leisure.
	Which I have, and it's really opened my mind to time travel, and I have a quick question.
	If I could use a time machine to visit with one of my past life incarnates... Yes?
	Could I do that?
	Could I go back and from this time period or timeline... The problem would be, how would you know when you found you?
	I mean, even if you went back to, say, 1800, 1700, whatever, how would you know?
	You would have to search for yourself, I would imagine, or possibly use... Well, if you had some genealogy traced back to, say, the 1700s, where you knew... In my family's case, I had a governor in a town of Lyme Regis, England, Yeah, but let's think about this for a second, sir.
	Even if you got back in time and you met up with the person you're talking about right now, and you presented them with genetic evidence that you were the same, do you know what they would do with you in 1700?
	Oh, that I would be a heretic, most likely.
	You'd be locked away in a rubber room.
	Genetically.
	I would.
	Are you crazy?
	Well, you wouldn't have to use your best Downton Abbey accent and play dumb as it were.
	Yes, exactly.
	But I do think you could communicate on a level of the time period without exposing yourself.
	You could be very cautious.
	Well, I don't know.
	You think it's possible.
	I mean I think you could narrow down the region that you were in and you'd certainly know.
	This is why I want you to go out and somehow get a copy of a movie called Eye Origins.
	I will.
	I want some feedback after you get it.
	I will.
	Very good.
	Hello?
	and from Rochester, so I will definitely check back with you.
	And it's such a pleasure to talk to you.
	I can't even tell you.
	Thank you, buddy.
	Take care.
	Oops.
	Sorry about that.
	I thought we were done.
	All right, let's go here.
	You're on the air.
	Good evening.
	Hello there.
	Going once.
	Hello?
	Yes, hello.
	Oh, OK.
	I'm listening on the phone.
	I didn't hear you.
	This is Eric from Clemens, North Carolina.
	Are you a first-time caller, I would take it?
	Yes, sir, I am.
	I've been listening to you since way back when we both didn't have any gray hair.
	I want to thank you for getting me through many night shifts in hospital laboratories across the country.
	Are you listening on radio or the Internet?
	I am listening through Dark Matter on the TuneIn Radio app, and I wanted to say hi to my buddies out there at the Midnight Fans Forum.
	I'm sure they're all like, oh, that's him, that's him!
	Yeah, guys, that's him!
	Anyway, I'm glad you're back.
	I don't know if this counts as a past life, but I had a dream once.
	It was one of those dreams where you smell the smells, you feel the textures.
	It's almost like you've stepped on a stage.
	It was so realistic.
	I felt like I was actually there.
	It wasn't so much a dream state, but like I was really there.
	Did the dream involve you?
	Yeah, it was from my point of view.
	It wasn't like I was looking at a character.
	It was like I was standing flat footed on this, like in a Grecian, you know, Mediterranean type stonework pier.
	Wow.
	You know, like there was a boathouse to my, best thing I can do to describe it is a boathouse with columns, you know, made of stone.
	I looked up from that, and there's this wall of water, and the next thing I know, I'm being obliterated by the rubble that's in the water.
	It was kind of an alarming thing, but it was so realistic.
	Perhaps your death in a previous life, huh?
	I'm wondering.
	I didn't.
	Okay, let me note something here, sir.
	Thank you so very much for the call, and let me note something quickly, and that is, when we dream, don't we always dream about ourselves?
	In other words, have any of you ever had a dream in which you were completely somebody else?
	That would be weird, right?
	Another creature, another person.
	The dream was not... You were nowhere in the dream whatsoever.
	I mean, I'm always in my dreams.
	I think.
	I'm trying to think back, but I cannot recall a time I've had a dream that I wasn't part of it.
	It was part of my past, or something like that.
	And I've never been back in the 1700s or 1800s either.
	Um, hello there, on a cell phone somewhere.
	You're on the air.
	Hello?
	Yes, hello.
	This is Julie in Colorado.
	Julie in Colorado.
	Hi, Julie.
	Yeah.
	Hey, Art.
	So glad you're back on the air.
	Thank you.
	It is... I'm glad I listened to you.
	It's not the same when I'm not on the air.
	I don't know why.
	It's like I was made to do this, I guess, or did it in a past life.
	You were made to do it.
	Well, I have to tell you this.
	I have to tell you.
	I've been trying to call in for weeks.
	That I saw a structure.
	You mean a megastructure?
	I saw the megastructure in 2007.
	I had to go open a business that I used to run and it was at three in the morning.
	I drove to the business that I ran and Let an employee in, and then I drove back home.
	You're not talking about the megastructure that we've been talking about, are you?
	Yes!
	How could you have seen that?
	I mean, even with the best... I saw it.
	I saw it because I called my husband, and this was about 3.30 in the morning, and I said, I'm looking at A UFO.
	So you didn't watch out.
	Honey, honey!
	A megastructure!
	Come quick!
	No, I didn't know how to describe it.
	I didn't know how to describe it.
	And I closed my eyes really tight and opened them again just to make sure that I wasn't just... Alright, hold on.
	We've got a break.
	We've got a break.
	the world.
	Oh.
	you The clock strikes twelve, and Midnight in the Desert is counting packets your way on the Dark Matter Digital Network.
	To call the show, please direct your finger digits to dial 1952-225-5278.
	That's 1952.
	Call Art.
	Who sings with that much enthusiasm?
	five fifty two seventy eight that's one nine five two call art who sings with
	that much enthusiasm boy is that something that's all welcome everybody
	It's open lines.
	Anything goes.
	Anything you want to talk about is fair game.
	National number 952-225-5278.
	952-225-5278. The other numbers of interest, House Lives Line at area code 575-208-7000.
	at area code 575-208-7000.
	That's 5, 7, 5, 2, 0, 8, 7, 7, 8, 7.
	I have to have Ross do this.
	First time callers at area code 7, 7, 5, 2, 8, 5, 5, 800.
	That's 7, 7, 5, 2, 8, 5, 5, 800.
	And the young lady who was on the air with me prior to the break is now back.
	Where were we?
	code 775-285-5800. That's 775-285-5800. And the young lady who was on the air with me
	Hi Art.
	prior to the break is now back. Where were we?
	Hi, Art.
	Hi.
	I was telling you about the megastructure.
	Oh, yes, yes.
	I saw in 2008.
	Well, okay.
	But I mean, you were on Earth, right?
	I was on Earth, yes.
	And you were looking in the sky, I presume, and you said, sort of, UFO, right?
	Yes, yes.
	Well, it was unidentified.
	It doesn't look like any UFO that you Yes, yes.
	And I didn't know how to describe it until the last couple weeks when you started talking about this megastructure.
	Gotcha.
	And I said to my husband, I said, that's it!
	That's what I saw.
	Because I could draw a picture of it, but I could never Explain it to anyone.
	Okay then, I have an assignment for you.
	Yes.
	Draw a picture of it and send it to me.
	I will!
	Okay, send it to KNY, well let's see, Art Bell at KNYE.
	Can you do that?
	KNYE?
	Yes, I can.
	All messed up, they get dyslexic with it.
	It's K-N-Y-E.
	I don't know why people want to do it the other way.
	I won't even say it or it will stick.
	But send me that photograph.
	I'd love to see it.
	Well, it'll be me drawing it.
	I will draw it and send it to you.
	And it was huge.
	And I just wanted to let you know that somebody has seen it.
	All right.
	I will just take your word on that.
	I have no way of knowing if you saw the megastructure or a megastructure, actually.
	Let's go here to our first-time caller line, actually.
	Hello.
	Hello.
	Yes, hi.
	Oh, hey, Mr. Bell.
	Boy, this is an honor.
	Hey, I just wanted to tell you, I've been listening to you for years, And, uh, this is calling from KCAA, which is near Idlewild, California.
	That's the way to do it.
	Yeah, yeah, alright, yeah, put in a good plug.
	Anyhow, uh, I would get you for an hour on this, and then I'd switch over to, uh, your, your, your antithesis, and that's George Norrie, who actually bashed you last night about the whole, uh, microstructure thing.
	No.
	No.
	No, he bashed me!
	But anyhow... No wait, no wait, don't just leave it at that.
	Hold it, hold it, hold it.
	What did he say?
	Oh, well, well, this is after he was justifying that the Earth produces oil abiotically.
	I mean, the guy's out of his mind.
	But anyhow, he was saying that, you know, some people exaggerate what they find, or they exaggerate the finds of scientists, which I don't think you would do it at all.
	I mean, you know, take it for what it's worth.
	But the reason I call is I wonder, I listened to you 20 years ago.
	Do you ever feel like you were set up by Richard Hoagland?
	And I'll just go off the phone.
	Thank you so much, Art.
	No, not really.
	I don't think I was set up at all.
	The only, you know, I looked at rocks with Richard for years.
	Uh, the one he got me with was the, uh, the thing that a lot of other people, by the way, have found and said, look, this is artificial, there's no question about it.
	Maybe it came from our space program, maybe not, but there was a pipe sticking out of it.
	Uh, what he called, uh, number nine, I believe, right?
	So, and, and, you know, as far as, uh, My making a big deal out of this story, uh, is a big deal!
	Now, nobody's saying that it's aliens.
	Well, actually, uh, Jason Wright mentioned that.
	I've not said that.
	I've said, um, it could be.
	And, uh, I don't know why you'd bash me, actually, for saying that, because it, it, it would be the biggest story of our lifetimes.
	Absolutely, no question about it.
	If it turned out to be anything at all, All the indications are, and I've had leaks from NASA, as you know, leaks from scientists trying to puzzle it out.
	Nobody has knocked it down yet.
	So it remains an item of intense interest.
	And so if you must bash me for that, who cares?
	That's just, you know... Well, there's a word.
	I won't use it.
	Hello, Undead... I believe it's UndeadQuakeGuy.
	That's your name, right?
	Oh, hello there, Art.
	Undead Quake Guy.
	How did you come up with a name like that?
	Ah, well, it's a bit of a moniker that the village up here in Canada gave me, to be honest.
	I'm extremely talented at an old game called Quake, on the PC.
	And, well, it was Halloween, and so I decided to change it to Undead.
	Frankly, I've just been asleep for too long and I forgot to change it.
	Well, it makes you distinctive, that's for sure.
	My daughter was watching Pixels earlier and I was watching guys play Donkey Kong.
	Ah, yes, a classic art, an absolute classic.
	Yes.
	I was calling in for two quick things.
	I wanted to have a little bit of discussion about the megastructure.
	Yes.
	And how it could have been built.
	But first I wanted to give you an update about my cow.
	I called in a week or two ago when you had the witch on.
	You asked me to call you back for a bit of an update on the cure that she gave me for the cow.
	And I want to let you know she should not be the local witch because I fed my cow exactly what she told me to.
	Uh-oh.
	Which was milk and honey.
	And what happened?
	And of course she was the only cow in the village.
	So I gave her her milk and honey and a week later she passed away and unfortunately I won't be able to marry my wife now because that was the dowry.
	There's tragedy and then there's this call.
	I mean, my God, that's awful.
	Yes.
	capped right on the barnyard floor. So that witch, I just don't know, I really think you
	should give her a pass. But on to something a little more extraterrestrial.
	Yes.
	Allow me, if you would, a moment of Socratic dialogue. If they're going to be creating
	a Dyson sphere, that would require a massive amount of materials, would it not?
	Ah, it would.
	And in order to harness such material, they would most likely need to be gathering minerals
	at least all over the solar system at the least, correct?
	At the least.
	However, what if, instead of requiring going around gathering all these resources, they had something what is called a Universal Constructor?
	Have you heard of this, Art?
	Well, is it from Star Trek?
	Universal Constructor is not from Star Trek, nor is it from Star Wars, unfortunately.
	It's actually a concept that goes back several decades in science.
	Sort of the philosopher's stone of science, if you will, being able to put materials into this machine, and then it rewrites the code at the subatomic level, moves the particles around, and changes it into the particle of what you need.
	For instance, lead to gold, or silicon to petroleum.
	That's kind of like Star Trek, in a way.
	I was just wondering if you've had any guests or any scientists or anything of the sort that might have brought that up, because I do believe it's a fascinating topic, and it might be the only way that we as mankind manage to reach out past the solar system, because we're having a rough time managing our own resources as it is.
	We could certainly use a universal constructor, there's no question about it.
	But all the scientists that I was aware of that had anything to do with that project came to untimely ends.
	I wouldn't be surprised at all, Art.
	Well, anyways, thank you very much for allowing me on.
	I just wanted to give you an update about the cow.
	Hopefully her family can find some other sort of dowry or this cow farmer is just going to become a normal farmer.
	Have yourself a good night.
	Get off my line.
	Thank you.
	Let's go here to, I believe, Washington and say you're on the air.
	Hello Art.
	Hi.
	Hello.
	Hi.
	Art, I wanted to let you know we've had problems in our area where we have these little local mice.
	They're kind of the little forest mice.
	Yes.
	And they will get into the engine of your car and they love to eat the wiring.
	It's happened to me.
	Yeah, and they love when they get in to a house.
	Let me tell you how bad.
	Let me tell you how bad it was.
	We had a mouse that got in the heater.
	You know, the heater part of the car?
	Yeah.
	And the fan part?
	And we had little mouse pieces coming out.
	Oh, no.
	Oh, yes.
	Oh, it was awful.
	It was absolutely awful.
	And little mouse pieces and fur kept coming out for a long, long time.
	Oh, it's a tragedy.
	Well, mine last year, one of them got in my van outside.
	Well, now I'm not worried.
	the engine light came on and I called my mechanic and he went into it. He's a really good mechanic
	and $1,200 later he told me he immediately came up with photos and everything of what they had done
	and we got the parts and everything put everything together but he said there's so much wiring that
	they've shooned through and he showed me all this all these photos he'd taken in there and
	and I could actually see down in there. Well now I'm not worried you know why? Yeah I've got a lot
	of wiring here of course but I left the peanut butter and bread on the floor last night didn't touch it.
	This to me means that mouse is not in this house.
	Well, you know what they love?
	Because I had some help, I was donating at the wildlife shelter over here, and they have a lot of, they hate to kill animals, and they had a lot of rodents coming in at night, and even eating some of the birds that were in the cages that they were trying to rehab.
	That was tragic.
	So what they did, they were trying everything to try to trap, you know, put them in rat traps, and they couldn't bait, they tried peanut butter, everything, and they finally used Cheetos, and the things, every, you'd even hear them snapping during the day, you know, they loved Cheetos.
	Cheetos, huh?
	Cheetos, that's the best thing to use.
	Okay, I get it, but I, thank you very much, I am convinced, my mouse, That'd be normal.
	He's not in the house.
	There is no way that a mouse could not smell peanut butter probably five rooms away.
	So, that little guy, little gal, I do believe, came to me, wanted to see me, wanted to see a human, saw me, and left.
	That's the only explanation.
	Right?
	How could she not have eaten the peanut butter overnight?
	Simple as that.
	Let's go to our first time caller line.
	How about there?
	Hello, you're on the air.
	Yes, this is Jonathan.
	I really enjoyed a very interesting interview with the gentleman that does the past life progressions yesterday.
	Very fascinating.
	I want to suggest two Alternate possibilities of how to interpret what people are experiencing there.
	First of all, if there are beings, whether good or malevolent, who are as much bigger than us as we are than bacteria, they could, if they wanted to give us the impression that we are experiencing a past life regression, they could mess with our minds just like we do with I suppose.
	Can I ask you a quick question?
	and I suppose you know small small creatures of that sort so so if they had
	an agenda that involved confusing us about the afterlife that that is a
	possibility that I don't see how we could rule out but the second one that I
	occurred to me was it would you have a love relationship where you really
	empathize so whether I ask you a question what are you talking on anyway
	Oh, I'm talking on a mobile headset.
	Is it too, is it hard to hear?
	It's awful, actually.
	Is it, you mean like Bluetooth?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Alright, I'm gonna demonstrate this for everybody's good.
	What I want you to do, stay on the line, disconnect the Bluetooth, and talk directly into the phone instead.
	Okay, you got it, you got it.
	Alright, I'll wait.
	Let me disconnect, it won't take long.
	Alright, alright, good.
	I'll wait.
	I want you to Here I am, I'm on the phone directly.
	Now, that sounds so much better.
	So much better.
	Don't ever use Bluetooth.
	That's what Bluetooth does to a phone, folks.
	Alright, back to matters of love.
	Okay, that's a good learning for me.
	Yeah, if you empathize with someone, whether it's the empathy of Friendship or romantic love, especially when you're a child, sometimes the distinctions between your ego, who you are and who they are, can be dissolved.
	Especially if the love is really strong, you really identify with that person.
	So why couldn't it be possible, whether psychically or through remote viewing that people are that these people are emphasizing with a person in the past
	or like you said there were some people who were parallel who were living at the same time as them
	that you are deeply emphasizing with but it doesn't necessarily follow from that that you are that
	person well yes i do um interesting you know the program last night really brought all kinds of
	questions to my mind We're not done with that man by a long, long shot.
	I mean, there are so, so many questions.
	Skype brings somebody named Action.
	Oh, this is Ross in St.
	Louis, Missouri.
	Ross, hello.
	How you doing?
	Uh... Hey, uh... Hi.
	Had a few things for you, sorry.
	Alright, that's alright.
	First time Skype.
	Right.
	So I'm having a hard time here.
	Uh-oh, now you're breaking up.
	You're breaking.
	Is this any better?
	A little bit better, yes.
	Go ahead, go ahead.
	Okay, well, I have a couple past lives for you that I thought that I'd like to hear about.
	With this kind of connection, I'll take one past life.
	Okay, that's fine.
	Just real quickly then, I meditated many nights in a row about trying to get to a past life.
	So right before I'd fall asleep in that kind of gray area, I would listen to myself say over and over again what was past life that I needed to know about.
	Okay.
	What it came out was nothing important.
	I was a monk on a road, and we were being invaded, and I stabbed.
	I would say that's pretty serious, actually.
	Well, I mean, death itself may be serious, but the role, you know, I wasn't some pharaoh or a... No, no, no, I've got it.
	You were a monk.
	But, um, yes, thank you very much.
	Look, that's pretty interesting stuff, right?
	If you were a monk, I say, interesting.
	Very, very interesting, actually.
	At least you know more than I do.
	I just sort of generally know I was Asian.
	And I'm not even sure that I know that.
	It could, but it does seem likely, actually.
	You're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hello?
	Yes.
	Hello.
	Art.
	Art, indeed.
	Hey, I started listening to you, well, actually watching you in 2000 with your show with Ramona.
	On TV here in Pahrump?
	Wait, wait.
	Ramona and I never, ever did a show here in Pahrump.
	So I appreciate the fact that you like the show.
	There is a couple that does a show, or did a show some years ago.
	I don't know if they still do, but that was me.
	Oh, well, I'm sorry I'm a safety fat.
	Sorry.
	I lost my eyesight in 2003, so I exponentially enjoyed radio from that point on.
	But, and I'm so glad that you're back on, and every kudo you get, you fully deserve.
	But, the other thing, may I recommend a book?
	Yes.
	I don't read, of course, because I'm blind, but I listen to them.
	About five a week for about twelve years now.
	Okay, real quick because we're out of break.
	What's the name?
	Uh, Death in the Pines by Tom Hartman.
	Death in the Pines.
	Sounds painful.
	Alright, we've got a break here.
	I appreciate it's all open lines.
	I'm waiting for someone to ask.
	I don't know what you have, cause there's magic in my hand.
	And I'll never let you go.
	Very much, look at us, but do not touch. Pedro is my name.
	While midnight sweeps across America, you've found an oasis for the mind.
	To call Midnight in the Desert, please dial 1-952-CALL-ART.
	That's 1-952-225-5278.
	You know, on Fridays I get to play around a little more with bumper music, and I do.
	I play a little of everything, actually.
	Fridays are open lines, and that's exactly what we're in the middle of right now.
	So if you are just joining us, Here's the deal.
	Anything goes.
	All right?
	We've got a national line of area code 952-225-5278.
	You can call that one.
	You can call the... Oh, we do have a special past lives line.
	That'd be area code 575-208-7787.
	575-208-7787 and first time callers to the program, area code 775-285-5800.
	And the talk.
	No, I'm not going to do it again.
	Everybody just tringed, right?
	Hello there, you're on the air from, well, on our special line, actually.
	Hello.
	Yes, me?
	Yes.
	You.
	Ah, well.
	What I figured was back in 1966-67, I drove with my parents back to Maryland.
	We took the Deep South route.
	We were going to a family reunion in Maryland.
	Starting in Mississippi, Alabama, up into the Carolinas, we would go through small towns.
	We'd go into these little towns.
	You know, the blue highways, because my dad liked to do that.
	Are you like chewing gum?
	Oh, sorry, it's gone.
	Like a fifth grade school teacher.
	I'm seriously chewing my nicotine gum and smoking.
	Anyway, we'd go into these little towns.
	I knew exactly what was going to be there before we hit the main street.
	Deja vu constantly.
	In several towns.
	I thought about that a long time.
	It wasn't terribly long ago.
	It was mostly twenties and thirties, pre-Depression.
	I said, now what would get me all over the South?
	So you think you were a traveling salesman in the South?
	Well, that's the only way I could explain it.
	Any idea what you were selling?
	No idea at all.
	It's just all these little towns.
	Back then it could have been like encyclopedias.
	Oh, sure.
	Sure.
	I just figured that the more I thought about it, the more I thought, well, what would get me around?
	And then I happened to be watching, for about the third time, I was watching 76 Trombones.
	I was watching all these people on the train.
	They're salesmen and they travel all over these places.
	They do it on a regular basis.
	Maybe that's what I was doing.
	I was born in 1951.
	And my dad, now I never took to sales.
	I was terrible at sales all my life.
	I tried it two or three times.
	My dad was a salesman and he knew all the little towns in Central and Northeast Texas and East Texas.
	He just enjoyed the heck out of it.
	He's quite successful with it, Ted.
	You're not violating rule three, are you?
	What's rule three?
	Rule three is a two drink minimum.
	I haven't drunk anything, not with the medications I take.
	I see, okay, it's medications.
	Sorry.
	Okay, well, I get it.
	So you were a traveling salesperson back in, well, who knows when.
	Remember the days they used to knock on the door?
	Knowledge for your children, ma'am.
	I remember those days.
	Now, encyclopedia salespeople are no more.
	I don't think they have them anymore.
	The internet has taken that all away.
	Okay, gosh, so many people calling at once.
	You're on the air.
	Good evening, morning, whatever.
	Yeah, how are you?
	I'm quite well.
	Two drink minimum.
	I've got to start drinking.
	Do you want to catch him, kill him, or feed him?
	i say one way or the other people know what i'm talking about but twisted on
	purpose and i'm saying that either way do you want to catch and kill murphy
	uh... i don't i don't care and i'm not my brother's keeper in this case
	but i'm not tried to speak in
	frightened all your talking about the mouse Yeah.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Look, if bread with copious amounts of peanut butter on it will not bring a mouse to nibble, it can't be done.
	This mouse obviously came from outside and returned to the outside.
	The peanut butter that they're selling today, they don't like it anymore.
	Oh, come on.
	I'm telling you.
	This is good, skippy stuff.
	Smooth.
	That's the same stuff I got.
	Yeah.
	I'll tell you, every time I use it, they pass it by.
	Oh, sure.
	You're telling me mice don't like peanut butter anymore?
	Come on.
	I don't know.
	It's something in the mix that they're using today.
	I'm telling you.
	Well, now you're scaring me.
	I mean, if a mouse won't go for peanut butter, and you're telling me there's something in there, I don't buy that.
	I eat a lot of Skippy, I'm okay.
	Put out a piece of bacon, or a piece of fried ham, or the last one that... I'm not trying to throw the last dinner for Abbie Normal here.
	I was just trying to see if Abbie Normal really was here.
	And I maintain that if Abbie Normal would not go for the peanut butter, Abbie Normal's gone.
	I bet you put out a piece of meat, you'll find it's gone in the morning.
	Alright, alright.
	Well, I'm also not trying to attract Bigfoot.
	So... I'm done.
	I've done as much as I can.
	Let me go overseas to Mark.
	I think in... Yeah, hi Art.
	Hello.
	Hi Art.
	You sound like you're at the bottom of a barrel, Mark.
	Really?
	Now you sound a little different.
	What are you doing?
	Um, I'm sitting here with my iPad and I just changed the volume control.
	Maybe that makes it better.
	Okay, here's the deal, Mark.
	Find where the microphone is.
	Okay.
	Is that better?
	It is better.
	Okay.
	Um, a couple of things.
	You just gave a clue to me why the mouse didn't come.
	You said you're using Skippy Smooth peanut butter.
	Yeah.
	It's a sophisticated mouse-ard, he wants chunky.
	Leave me alone.
	Okay, then I have something else for you.
	Good.
	What's that?
	There was an emergency landing, I don't know if this was picked up in the U.S.
	Press an emergency landing of a Singapore Airlines freight plane this week carrying
	1,268 live goats from Singapore to Malaysia.
	I'm I bet that must have been some clean up.
	The reason the plane had to make an emergency landing is that the methane gas alarms went off in the plane.
	That's why I said it must have been messy.
	Which leads to the question Art, who cut the goat cheese?
	Oh Mark, go away.
	Let's go here to New Jersey, I think.
	Hello?
	Good morning, Art, from New Jersey.
	How are you tonight, sir?
	I'm okay.
	I wanted to touch on a few things with you.
	One great Dead Air show last Friday night.
	It was a lot of fun.
	I had called you and told you a story about the Carlson being found in the backyard with a small child.
	Oh, yes.
	Anyway, a couple things.
	One, when you had Bill Burns and the other gentleman on the same week, they were talking about the Amnibo case.
	Has anyone ever reached out to the children to ask them if they were told to lie about this?
	Okay, here's the deal.
	I'm going to answer your question, alright?
	We're in touch with Christopher.
	And that's all I'm going to say right now.
	I repeat, we're in touch with Christopher.
	Now, I don't know whether he wants to come on the air.
	I don't know whether he wants to tell his story.
	But my producer is indeed in touch with Christopher.
	Lots.
	So, we'll see what happens.
	But that was quite a show, wasn't it?
	Let's go to Skype and Tony.
	Hi, Tony.
	Hey, how you doing, Art?
	I'm doing okay.
	Good.
	I wanted to tell you how learning about my past life has affected my entire life.
	Okay.
	You still there?
	I am.
	I spent a lot of time in the Navy when I was quite young.
	And I was on the flight deck of an aircraft carrier.
	I used to work there.
	And when we didn't have flight ops, I would go up and go to sleep.
	In these nets that hung over the side that would catch you if you happened to fall off or get blown off.
	And I used to go there, when there was no flight ops of course, and jump into them and go to sleep.
	Right?
	And it would be, you know, in the middle of the ocean and it was unbelievable.
	Sleep was very, very heavy.
	And I would have some truly amazing dreams.
	I used to dream over and over again about being up in a balcony, in a building on the second floor, in the balcony, painting a portrait of a woman.
	And obviously it was, you know, at one of the old country towns, small village.
	And it would wake me up, it was so strong.
	And what would happen would, I'd be looking out onto the town square, Obviously, the building was right on a town square, and there was a fountain in the middle.
	And a light would start.
	It would start small, and then it'd get real, real bright, till it blinded me.
	And I was painting, at the time, a portrait of a woman.
	Okay, we have limited time here, so... Let's rush to the... I'm sorry?
	Rush to the conclusion, if we can.
	Okay, I'm sorry.
	And what happened there is I...
	You know, of course, we went to a lot of ports overseas, and I happened to come across a little village in Spain.
	And in that village, as I was walking through it with one of my shipmates, we seen a fountain in the middle of the square, and I recognized it.
	And that was it.
	That was the fountain.
	And it was the building.
	And I knew that I was there at one time.
	Well, the way it affected me the rest of my life is, I realized at that point in time, I still had a few more years left in the Navy, I realized at a point in time that, you know, my artistic talents that I had when I was younger, I needed to develop.
	And I did.
	And I spent my life doing artwork, actually military artwork.
	And it just was amazing.
	Actually happened is after we did see the light go after I'm sorry after I did see the fountain Where a light went off I went into the backyard of the building and there was another fountain back there made out of a seashell And I seen that in my dream originally I didn't I wanted to cut the dream a little short for time Okay, so I was Vince.
	Okay, so that that was like the second piece of proof you needed to To decide you had indeed been there at a prior time.
	Yeah, okay, I get it.
	I'm not sure how I would handle that either.
	If you saw something absolutely that you had dreamt about, or that was from a prior life, never had been to that location, geographic location before, ever, ever, ever, and yet there it was.
	So, do you think this proves reincarnation?
	It's an interesting question.
	I've got a lot of people who have put messages speaking of, uh, well, Roger, for example.
	All right.
	Past lives.
	Bonk!
	Hebrews 9, 2, 7.
	2, 7, it's appointed unto men once to die.
	But after this, excuse me, after this, the judgment!
	And that would be the view of many, many people.
	It offends their religious sensibilities, right?
	So think about that a little bit.
	If reincarnation were real, well, it can't be, right?
	Not according to the Bible.
	We die but once.
	Then we get judged.
	And it has to be that way.
	So this kind of talk is from a heretic?
	On my first time caller line, you are on the air.
	Art Bell.
	Yes, sir.
	How you doing?
	Great.
	How about you?
	Good.
	This is Rich from New Jersey.
	Okay.
	I wanted to ask you, that alien megastructure thing that's going on, do you think that could possibly be us from the future, trying to signal us now?
	Well, as I mentioned earlier, you know, the scientists at Green Bank... Nothing is, right?
	Uh, you fuzzed out for me, like, through your whole comment, which sucked.
	I was waiting for somebody to bring that up.
	You fuzzed out on me, but... I'm a time traveler, so I'll check back with you, but... Alright, thank you.
	It's a pleasure.
	Thank you.
	Finally!
	Waiting for somebody to mention that.
	Actually, there is no new news.
	But I thought I would do that, and surely there would be somebody that would come along in the first hour and call me on that.
	But no, nobody did.
	I couldn't believe it.
	Maybe that's a lack of interest, or maybe it's religious objection, or maybe they just don't want to hear about it.
	I can't quite figure it out, the way people are reacting, or is it a non-reaction to this story.
	Now, there's no particular news tonight, but I thought I'd give that a try and see if it piqued anybody's interest, and it took over an hour for anybody to come along.
	Come on, folks.
	Give me a break here.
	Celeb, is that right?
	Yes, sir.
	Yes, sir.
	This is Caleb.
	Caleb.
	All right, Caleb.
	I'm calling you from Silicon Valley, Alabama.
	I've talked to you over the years.
	This is probably about my fifth time since 1999, and that's what brings me to my call tonight.
	My first time listening to you was when you interviewed Chris Carter back in late 1999, and I've heard you mention it several times about the Exiles coming back.
	That's one of my favorite shows, and I know that you were involved with the sister show, Millennium.
	I was just calling to ask you if Have you thought about having Chris Carter back on the show?
	or on the new show for the first time I should say.
	Um...
	I...
	Alright, I'm not supposed to talk about this, but yeah, I'm going to have a money.
	He's scheduled.
	How about that?
	That's beautiful.
	I shouldn't have given that away, but you pried it out of me.
	I wanted to ask you another thing.
	Lance Henderson, I know you had him on the show a long time ago around... Working with him.
	Oh yeah, I remember, on Millennium.
	Yeah, that's one of my favorite shows, and I've had my fingers crossed that they're going to bring that character back into the new X-Files series, but I don't think they're going to, but that would be something that I would dream of.
	But anyway, I just wanted to call you and ask you that, and... I... I hate TV.
	I hate doing TV.
	I'm really serious.
	It's wild.
	It's fast.
	It's hurried.
	It's constantly redone.
	It's tough.
	I'm glad I'm in radio.
	Well, I'm glad you're back on the air, and that's really all I wanted to bring up, and I'm glad to hear the secret that you just divulged.
	You mean the one you yanked out of me?
	Okay, well, I'm probably going to get in trouble for that.
	But how could I not admit it when he brought it up?
	I can hear my producer now going, oh.
	Up to Canada, I believe.
	Hello.
	Hello.
	Yes, hello.
	Hi, this is David from Nanaimo, British Columbia, Canada.
	Glad to have you.
	Art, I have a really interesting story about my mom and dad that I've been wanting to tell you for a few years now.
	Go right ahead.
	My mom and dad were born in the 20s.
	They were both in World War II.
	My dad's from Canada, brought my mom over from England.
	She was a war bride.
	Right.
	Back in 2006, my dad was in his 80s, and he was suffering with severe dementia.
	It was really, really bad, and every once in a while, he'd have some lucid moments.
	It was really tough to communicate with him, but every once in a while, for about 5-10 minutes, he'd kind of come back, and he'd know who he was and where he was and who you were.
	And during one of his lucid moments, he told me that, David, I've been unplugged and they've called me back to the mothership.
	And I thought, Oh my goodness, what's going on with my dad?
	But anyways, um, jump back to the forties when my mom and dad were married, bringing my mom over from England, um, from World War II.
	My, my dad made my mom or my, pardon me.
	My dad made my mom's dad a promise.
	That he would never, never, ever, ever leave her, no matter what.
	He says, you're taking my daughter away all the way overseas, and you know he'd only see his daughter maybe once or twice to get in his life, so please don't ever, ever leave her.
	Right.
	So, like, my dad swore he would never leave them, and you know what, they had a real rocky marriage.
	They had one of the rockiest marriages you could ever have, but he never did go.
	Anyways, you go back, you go forward to 2007, this is when they were both in a nursing home, and my dad was slumped over, and Getting fed by the nurses in the nursing home and all of a sudden he stopped breathing and he went blue and the care aide called the nurse over and turned out that they took his pulse and his heart had stopped beating.
	So they wheeled him back to his room and he sat in his chair, I'm thinking for a few minutes, maybe five minutes, and then the head nurse came over to check his vitals and still it was exactly the same way.
	They put him back up on the bed and sure as hell, pardon me, he came to all of a sudden.
	All of a sudden he was breathing again.
	It was about a month later after that.
	There's only one part of this that I don't get.
	Why would they sit him in a chair, as you mentioned, and not begin life resuscitation type things?
	Oh, I can tell you that.
	He was in the chair and they were putting him into the bed and that's when he'd come to.
	Okay.
	He had a do not resuscitate order.
	Okay, okay.
	That answers it.
	Thank you.
	Yeah.
	So anyways, it was about a month after that he had another lucid moment with my mom and my mom said, John, look at you.
	You're all slumped over all the time.
	You're never able to communicate.
	How the heck are you able to do this?
	I mean, a month ago you passed away, John, and now you're back to me.
	And he looked at my mom and he said, I know, I was sent back for you.
	Wow.
	About a month after that my mom started getting sick and it was about six months after that my mom had died and he died a few months after that.
	So he actually outlived her?
	He outlived her by about three months.
	Wow, so it was his job to come back, collect her, and then go on himself.
	That's incredible.
	Alright, thank you very much for the call.
	That's actually quite a story, isn't it?
	It's my job to come back for you.
	Wow, think about that one.
	Um, okay, let's go where?
	Let's go to Lloyd.
	Lloyd, uh, you're on the air on Skype.
	Uh, hi, Art.
	Hi.
	Uh, let me turn off my radio.
	Oh, yes, please.
	Thank you.
	So, he's actually listening to the radio.
	That should be interesting.
	I have a question about last night's show.
	Alright, before you go into that, sir, what station are you listening to?
	I'm listening on the app for Dark Radio, the radio app.
	Alright, so you're actually on the internet?
	Yes, on the internet.
	Alright, very good.
	Go ahead.
	I was wondering concerning reincarnation, and what about do-overs, suicide, if things aren't going well in your life?
	Having personal problems or illness or whatever.
	If you believed in reincarnation, why wouldn't you just do a do-over and end it?
	Well, there's an easy answer to that.
	Because you can't be sure.
	Well, that's true.
	You sure can't.
	I just wondered if that had been brought up by anybody, you know, because if you actually believed in reincarnation, I think that'd be a very viable option if things weren't going well.
	Well, certainly it'd be a test of faith, yes.
	Yeah, sure would.
	Well, it's nice talking to you.
	First time I've ever called.
	Um, okay.
	Well, thank you and please call again.
	Yes, I would call that a test of faith.
	Not the right kind, but definitely a test of faith.
	Oh, I believe in reincarnation.
	Really?
	Well, under those circumstances, what are you doing here?
	You should be offing yourself, right?
	And trying to find out if it's, uh, a real or not.
	And have your do-over.
	Why don't people do it?
	Well, because you can't quite always be sure.
	Alright, let's go to, uh, Gloucester, I believe it is.
	Uh, where's that, Vermont?
	Oh, it's in, uh, Virginia, Art.
	Virginia, I'm sorry.
	All I can see on the phone is B. Well, actually, I drive a truck, uh, and I'd like to thank Yes, thank you, Kern.
	It's such a gift for so many people who are back on the air.
	Thank you so much.
	Sure.
	And I'd just like to say, back in 2000, in December of 2000, I was putting up some Christmas lights at my home, and I got a pretty good electrical shock.
	And within a day, I don't know how this happened, Within a day, I was learning how to erase chemtrails with mirrors and an infrared light.
	Erase chemtrails?
	Yeah, I found out how to erase chemtrails, seriously.
	And I had some ill effects from the shock, and I found out later, there's a group called the Survivors of Electrical Shock and Lightning Strike.
	We just really, I can't get past the erasing chemtrails part, so if you don't mind, before we go on, how do you erase a chemtrail?
	Well, what I did, I had two large mirrors.
	Yes.
	This came to me on two six-foot-tall mirrors that were four feet wide.
	Yes.
	And I kind of marked, I'd mark the sun, and then I'd angle the light from the sun at the tail of the chemtrail, which erased it, like if you were erasing something with a pencil eraser.
	That is pretty cool.
	It was.
	It was.
	A day later, a Navy biplane buzzed the house about 300 feet over my house.
	Yeah, how could you be sure?
	Might I ask, please?
	How are you sure that you're on the chemtrail?
	That you've got the mirrors positioned properly so that your beam is hitting the chemtrail?
	All I can say is, like, there was a gift given to me.
	It was like working hard or something.
	It was like making art.
	Okay.
	Like artwork, like I was doing.
	And I also used, at night, I used an infrared light.
	I'm really surprised I didn't get in trouble for it.
	I never pointed it directly at any planes or anything like that, and I would highly suggest no one doing this.
	No doubt.
	It was mainly during the daytime, and it was on the coast of California.
	There was an intense, intense sun in the December of 2000.
	Among other things, I did that, and I learned about remote neural monitoring.
	And I just like to point out to your guests, like you're listening to the radio and you just so happen to hear maybe what you're thinking about on the radio or something, or you're thinking, kind of, I do not believe in coincidences anymore.
	And I just like to, that's the main reason why I call it, people should check out remote neural monitoring and the microwave auditory effect.
	And I've learned so many things already.
	My neighbors probably thought I was nuts.
	Probably some people listening right now may be thinking that.
	Listen, I've got to run.
	I've got a break.
	But I do appreciate your call.
	Erasing chemtrails.
	Out there with mirrors, erasing chemtrails.
	some might say.
	I love you.
	This is Midnight in the Desert.
	To call the show, if you're east of midnight, call 1-952-CALL-ART.
	If you're west of midnight, call 1-952-225-5278.
	Messing with you folks a little bit.
	Yes, the white noise, that was me messing with you.
	Waiting over an hour until somebody finally got it.
	You know, there was no real news, but I thought it'd be interesting to say the Scientist Green Bank said... Nobody called.
	I was so disappointed.
	I mean, we're talking about this potential gigantic story, right?
	And it took over an hour for somebody to call.
	Over an hour.
	Shameful.
	Absolutely shameful.
	Anyway, just messing with you on a Friday night, folks.
	Let's go, uh...
	To Twin Cities.
	You're on there.
	Hello, Art.
	Hello.
	Say, that last caller who was using mirrors to erase chemtrails.
	Yes.
	Sounds like modern-day Archimedes.
	Kind of.
	Yeah.
	It was cool.
	Yeah.
	So I thought about it for a while.
	Focused mirrors erasing chemtrails.
	Parabolic mirrors, probably.
	Well, the way he had them set up, it seems so, yes.
	I was wondering how he knew when he got them focused correctly.
	I mean, did you suddenly get a spot on the edge of the chemtrail and then sort of like, I don't know, what is it where you can paint on windows, right?
	You can erase it a little bit at a time?
	Like that?
	I don't know.
	A couple of years ago, we had a terrible mouse infestation in my house, and I had a little bit of advice for you.
	I'm trying to get proof.
	You take the peanut butter and put it in a corner.
	Mice, they travel along the baseboards against the wall.
	Sir, this is a mouse that had enough guts to come up on my equipment and stare at me.
	Now, I left that on the floor all night long.
	It would have been absolutely too much for a mouse.
	He would have eaten it.
	He didn't touch it.
	This mouse left.
	Well, okay.
	You're saying put it on... I see what you're saying, but I'm saying, look, No mouse in the world could resist this.
	I don't care whether it's at the baseboard or out in the middle of the room.
	No way.
	It was silent, quiet in here all night long.
	That mouse should have eaten.
	Alright.
	I used to have pet rats too, so the idea that it would sit there staring at you doesn't Isn't totally surprising to me.
	Yeah, but okay, this is a mouse, though, coming in from outside, you know, just coming in and hopping up here, not more than 18 inches from you.
	You don't think that's strange?
	Well, we first discovered... Maybe not to some of you as rats.
	Yeah, used to, until an unfortunate incident happened.
	I don't think I want to hear about that.
	Have you ever heard of rat bite fever?
	Uh, well, no.
	But it doesn't sound good.
	No.
	There was a kid in San Diego, I think, last year who actually died from it.
	Oh, I thought you had it!
	No, no.
	My ma actually got it.
	Your mom got rat bite fever?
	Mm-hmm.
	Well, that's a definite reason to have Ratbegone.
	So... Yeah.
	I get it.
	It nearly killed her, actually.
	Ay yi yi.
	Yeah.
	Bet you've carried a lot of guilt.
	Yeah, well actually we had pet rats, but the one that bit her was actually one that we were holding over Christmas break that belonged to my sister's school.
	They were doing, they were doing experiments and they got, they got a pair and a female, they got a male and female to get babies.
	So we had the mom after she had the litter.
	And of course you'd have to go in there to refill food and stuff then.
	She's very protective of the babies, and she actually bit all of us, but it was only my mom who got sick.
	Boy, a person can never have enough rats, huh?
	No.
	Alright, well listen, thank you very much for your call, and that is a sad story indeed.
	I don't really want rats, nor do I actually want mice.
	Anyway, no more to say.
	I think Abby Normal is gone because Abby Normal could not have... I don't want to talk about Abby anymore.
	Hello there, you're on the air.
	Hi Art, it's great talking to you again.
	And to you.
	Hey, I am curious about people who believe that the revelation of ETs will destroy religious convictions and the religious foundation of the planet.
	Okay.
	I don't believe that.
	Maybe you're not a very religious person.
	I am a very religious person.
	I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
	One of the things that our faith teaches is that God created many worlds like our world and many people on those worlds.
	Well, to be fair, sir, the question that I asked these people was, if E.T.
	came down And we got in communication with this creature and this intelligent being from another world knew absolutely nothing at all about God or even the concept of religion.
	How would that affect you?
	And the religious people that I did ask that said it would destroy their faith.
	Gotcha.
	Okay, so that's a little bit different.
	It is.
	Okay.
	If you don't mind, the other thing I wanted to talk about was... Well, wait, before you go on to the other thing, what about you?
	If that happened, how would that affect your faith?
	Um, it wouldn't, because my thought would be maybe they, at one point, did believe, and they just fell away from believing.
	Like a lapsed Catholic.
	Correct.
	Alright, alright.
	Anyway, you had something else.
	The other was I really loved your show last night about reincarnation.
	Oh, it was good.
	It was a great show.
	I listened to it on Time Traveler.
	I wish I could have called in last night because I wanted to know if he believed a possible interpretation for a past life regression is maybe these individuals aren't remembering past lives they lived.
	But maybe they're remembering being guardian angels to those individuals.
	Well, if that's true, how can you account for the fact that many of the people who he did take back into prior lives collected details, of course, you know, tape machines were running and stuff like that, and they went and actually dug up proof of this prior life?
	Well, one of the other things that my faith teaches is that we lived as spirits before we came to this earth.
	And so my thinking is, maybe, like, let's say, before I came to earth, I was a guardian angel to, um, I don't know, Moses or Edison, and I was with them through many... Why would you imagine that you would be with such Uh, people of stature like that.
	I was just throwing out names, Art.
	Alright, fine.
	I don't imagine that.
	I was just throwing out names.
	I see.
	Alright.
	Name dropper.
	So, I was just wondering, you know, maybe his interpretation of what these people are remembering isn't Okay, but again, you're brushing right past the important part, and that is that these people gave details of their prior lives.
	Then, after the sessions, they would go and verify those details, you know, in libraries and city halls and stuff like that.
	That's pretty hard-hitting.
	But if a spirit was assigned to be that person's guardian angel, wouldn't they Have been with them throughout their life?
	You're really on this angel thing, huh?
	I'm just saying, maybe.
	Maybe?
	Maybe.
	That's all I had to say.
	Alright, I appreciate it.
	Thank you.
	I'm just saying the evidence that was gathered by these people was pretty impressive.
	It was Gregory Paxson last night, and you can be sure that we're going to have him on again.
	He was, you know, awesome.
	Wait a minute.
	We've got to start all over again.
	You're not allowed to use your last name on the air.
	Only your first name.
	Actually, it's a handle.
	The station is WTWW in Lebanon, Tennessee, on the banks of the Cumberland River.
	WTWW covers the whole country and way beyond.
	And most nights it's just boom in here.
	It's a very powerful station and very good quality, by the way.
	Even a short wave, considering the fading and all, it still does a great job.
	The really interesting thing about these megastructures is that to build a megastructure with regular material would, you know, The kind of material you're used to, not dark matter, but regular matter, would be very, very much intensive and tons and tons of material.
	It would be almost impossible to collect that much.
	But if you were to combine just a slight trace of regular normal matter in the form of metamaterial with dark matter and dark energy, you would make the perfect Dyson sphere.
	Because it would have virtually no mass, it would be weightless.
	And then, even with a massive conventional construction, it would be huge, but it would still be able to drift and accidentally collide with Tammy's star, if there wasn't some control system to keep the star centered in the middle of the sphere.
	One would imagine, if an alien race could do all this, they probably could get the trains to run on time and avoid collisions.
	The way you could do that is to use dark energy to repel the Dyson Sphere from the central star, and that would effectively make a servo-control loop, which would keep everything in its place and keep the star at the focus of the sphere.
	It would also allow you to create a wormhole and send the energy collected to other places.
	There's now some indication that this object is a Perfect, perhaps, triangle.
	And if that were the case, it would be sort of an indication that they want contact.
	In other words, you don't find triangles very frequently in nature.
	And so we're waiting to hear if that's what it is.
	That would be the perfect shape to signal geometry rather than, you know, just simple gravity.
	There you have it.
	This is a perfect way to signal.
	It's also, if you were to do this with regular matter, it would create tidal forces.
	It would be huge.
	Which, again, kind of indicates they're way beyond regular matter.
	They're using tachyonic matter, dark energy, and dark matter.
	Which kind of ties in with your show's name very nicely.
	It does indeed.
	Thank you very much for the call.
	Now, it would tie in with the name of the network.
	Everybody's got to get this straight, right?
	The Dark Matter Network, right?
	Actually, the Dark Matter Digital Network, DMDN.
	The name of the show is Midnight in the Desert.
	So, it is sort of the name of the network that I think he was thinking of.
	Let's go here to the first-time caller line and say, hello, you're on the air.
	Yes.
	Hi.
	Good evening.
	Are you indeed a first-time caller?
	Yes, I am.
	Wonderful.
	Where are you?
	I'm in Cambria, California.
	Okay.
	Yeah, on the ocean.
	And your first name is what?
	Sheila.
	Sheila.
	Okay, got it.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	I wanted to share with you a past life dream, which I had in 2002.
	All right.
	Right away, I'm going to ask you, you say it was a past life dream.
	So, were you the center?
	In other words, were you you in the dream?
	That's a good question and it's really significant because that was the first thing that alerted me to the fact that it was a past life.
	I was the person in the dream.
	I was inside looking out.
	When I had the dream, I was walking down the street.
	I was carrying a black, smallish, cocker spaniel.
	There was a man walking next to me.
	It was windy.
	It was nippy and cold.
	And I remember thinking, this feels weird.
	Sheila was in his body, but it didn't feel right.
	And I leaned back.
	We were walking down the street, and there was shops to the right with glass.
	And I leaned back and consciously looked in the glass.
	And I saw a woman with black hair looking kind of like the 40s.
	You know, the 40s look, my hair was rolled up in the back.
	Right.
	The 40s, you know, look.
	Sure.
	And the man next to me was tall, he was thin, he had glasses, and he was leading a golden cocker spaniel.
	And I knew instantly there was some signature that came from him and I knew he was my husband of present day.
	Wow.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And I went, wow.
	And all of a sudden, I had a download.
	That's the only way I can describe it.
	A rush of information.
	Correct.
	And what I knew was that I was in Chicago.
	Now, I've never been in Chicago in this life.
	And I knew we were going to a hotel.
	Right.
	And I knew that I sang in a band.
	Holy mackerel!
	Yeah!
	And he was the band leader, or he played in the band.
	I wasn't quite sure.
	He seemed to be kind of like my boss, but not exactly.
	And I knew that we were intimately involved as more than just friends.
	And he was married, and not to me.
	And as we walked toward the hotel, it was, you know, the doorman that opened the door, and it was a nice, pretty hotel, like in the movies.
	And he said, hello, good evening, and we walked in.
	Kind of like he'd seen you many, many times before.
	Correct.
	There was a respect in his greeting.
	I knew that we were on the big band circuit, whatever that was.
	I knew that we were in Chicago.
	We started out in Florida.
	We went to somewhere in there and then it came up to Kansas City, Chicago and we were heading to L.A.
	At the time, I had a friend who was kind of a She was an older lady and her husband had been a band leader for MGM Grand.
	She was familiar with those kinds of things.
	She had gone to parties with Desi and Lucille Ball and that crowd.
	I called her up and I asked her, I said, Polly is there?
	Really?
	A Big Ben circuit?
	And she says, oh yeah, there was a circuit.
	Of course.
	And so, I know how I died.
	I died of pneumonia.
	So you didn't die of like an angry ex-wife?
	No, but it's interesting because I went in, I'm a writer, so I'm very curious minded, and I went in and did some Googling, you know, searching, and I found, because I know he died of alcoholism.
	He was an alcoholic.
	So you're telling me you Googled up your ex-life?
	Yes!
	That is so cool!
	That is so cool!
	And you know, you're right, Google knows everything.
	I found a singer that was in his band.
	Not married to him, of course.
	And he was married.
	I found a singer, a band leader, that died.
	And he died of alcoholism.
	Alright, listen, I got it.
	I gotta go.
	We're at a break.
	So thank you for the story.
	Right.
	Naughty girl.
	But what a story.
	Yes, Google is good for some things, right?
	Google, ride by the wind Go down in a spin
	I'll take you now I'm telling you it's gonna be easy
	Don't bring me down No, no, no, no, no
	I'll tell you once more Before I get up the floor
	Don't bring me down Come on, men and women, Skype up!
	Call Midnight in the Desert at MITV 51.
	That's MITV 51.
	It never occurred to me that Google is an amazing resource.
	In other words, if in a dream, or in whatever state, you get an indication of another life, with some factoid that you can check out, Google would be invaluable.
	So, in this new day and age of Google, It may well be that we will, if we begin doing it, actually nail down this whole past life business and be able to prove it.
	There is nothing like Google.
	It virtually knows everything.
	Well, not everything, but close, right?
	So if you get a detail, now there's a great way to check it out.
	On, uh, let's see, our first line, not that it matters, in Reno, I think you're on the air.
	Hello?
	Hello.
	Hi Art.
	First time caller.
	Been listening to you for years.
	I'm a retired airline pilot.
	I'm your age.
	I'm 71 years old.
	I'm 70.
	Oh, okay.
	I gotcha, gotcha by one.
	Sorry about that.
	Anyhow, this goes back to 1958.
	This is a past life experience, I believe.
	Okay.
	I was a kid in San Jose in 1958.
	I was 13 years old.
	In those days, San Jose was pretty much prune orchards.
	And we used to play in this old barn.
	And on the wall of this old barn was a tombstone epitaph newspaper stuck on the wall of the gunfight at the OK Corral with Wyatt Earp.
	Which I thought was pretty unusual.
	You know, why wouldn't it be a local paper?
	But it was a Timson Lifetrap.
	So I took it down.
	And in those days, I used to hang out at a gun shop in San Jose, a fellow by the name of Dutra.
	He was a real good gunsmith.
	And I showed it to a man that was in there.
	And he said, Can I borrow it?
	And I said, Sure.
	Of course I never got it back, right?
	I'm thirteen years old, I was gullible, I gave it to this guy, and I never got the paper back.
	Okay, so, here about six months ago, my wife and I are both into old western guns from Italy, your birdie, and we go out in the desert, we dress up like cowboys once a month and go out.
	So anyhow, I got back into studying about white earth.
	Like you say, Google.
	And the other night, I don't know if this was a dream or what, but I woke up and Wyatt Earp was standing by my bed.
	Well, that's not a prior life experience.
	That's a ghost.
	Wyatt Earp would be a ghost.
	So if Wyatt Earp was standing by your bed, That's ghost.
	Sorry.
	I would be more than a little concerned about that.
	I wonder what triggers something like that.
	Pure delusion?
	It doesn't sound like any sort of prior life experience to me.
	It sounds like the ghost of Wyatt Earp, right?
	Let's go to Cynthia on Skype.
	Hi.
	Hi.
	My craziest past life experience has been that I was having flashbacks of somebody else and with my flashbacks of my current life.
	You're kind of breaking up on us a little bit here.
	Is this better?
	Well, it's okay as long as it's okay.
	Okay.
	That's all I can say.
	Anyway, I did some research on the internet and I found out that this person I was having the flashbacks of actually had existed and had died two years prior to when I was born.
	Wow.
	That one counts.
	That sounds like a prior life to me.
	Like I said, that's the craziest one I've had.
	I've had a lot of experiences that I believe were due to past lives.
	But that's the craziest one I've had.
	Well, we appreciate the craziest.
	That's for sure.
	There's really got to be something to all this, right?
	All this other life experience that people talk about or think represents a prior life.
	And yet, I'm kind of biting on the whole thing.
	I think that Reincarnation is probably the way that it is.
	I know it's going to disappoint a lot of people, and I've already got a lot of people on the computers suggesting to me that I have my religious views in a place where they shouldn't be.
	I'll leave it at that.
	Hello there, you're on the air.
	Good evening Art, this is your buddy Millie.
	I've got another good scary one or weird one for you here.
	I'm not sure if this is past lives or what it was, but I'm going to explain it here.
	You be the judge.
	I am.
	Okay, back in the 90s they had this thing on Discovery Channel, I think it was, that they were talking about going into those little tiny Yes.
	Yes.
	Makes sense.
	tunnels in the pyramids? Yes. With little robots? Yes. And they didn't know what it was for?
	Well, okay, I am pretty good at doing OBEs. I can do them awake, not all the time, but
	if I get... it's like your guest said last night, that you can't be the driver and
	look at the scenery at the same time. That's right. So yeah, so sometimes I have
	trouble, but that day I had no problem.
	I OBE'd myself into that hole and down in there and I went to the door and went into the one door, opened it up, went into the other door, opened it up.
	You're going to laugh.
	I opened it up and inside of it was a whole bunch of people.
	Now, these were people from older ages.
	There was an old lady cooking, a heavy set old lady cooking.
	There was an old man sitting on the table, a guy that had one leg.
	There was a little kid huddled up in the corner.
	There was this weird looking thing.
	You mean to sound like a Star Wars bar?
	Almost like, yeah!
	There was straw strewn around on the floor.
	And the strangest thing, when they all see me, they started singing, Hail, hail, the gang's all here!
	And I just... Now, in my mind, you know, they kind of told me, you know, I wanted to know what it was.
	I went around and was kind of like, I don't remember.
	It was a long time ago.
	And I was kind of talking to some of them, and they said that they're me.
	And I just kind of, at one point... In other words, this was like an entire group of people, wait a minute, people who have actually been you in prior lives, greeting you.
	Yes, that is what they told me.
	And at one point, I just got so freaked out, I kind of like backed out.
	And I know with OBEs, you back out of where you go, of where you come.
	Back to your body, right.
	You go backwards into your body, and I backed out of that tunnel so fast and popped back into my body.
	Pretty cool story, though.
	It took me about a week to tell my husband about it because I was just, I didn't know what to think.
	Hail, hail, the gang's all here.
	Yes, yes, I've got it.
	Well, we're having quite a Friday, aren't we?
	Everybody's having fun.
	There's my gavel.
	I've got it.
	It doesn't sound very good, does it?
	Here.
	How's that?
	Also not very good.
	That's kind of interesting.
	So, these were all different ages that were greeting this lady.
	Pretty good stuff, actually.
	Let's go to Kurt on Skype.
	Hello?
	Oh, no.
	Oh, yes.
	I've got to turn this off.
	Here, one moment, please.
	Oh, no problem.
	Yes, always prepared to turn off your device.
	That came quick.
	Yeah, well, I jumped over there.
	My lord, well, do you still have that Firebird that you had back in the 90s?
	Barber Trans Am, sir.
	Yes.
	Ninety-eight.
	Ninety-eight?
	Oh, so cool.
	Six feet.
	Oh, that is pretty.
	Um... Uh, the, uh... Yeah?
	Uh... Past life.
	Yeah, what about it?
	I have a past life.
	Titanic.
	You were on the Titanic?
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	With my girl.
	Hm.
	Um...
	As a boy, young boy, I had dreams of the Titanic.
	And then I did a research paper in junior high.
	And then another in 1985, in my senior year.
	And then after I graduated, they found it in September of 85.
	And then my girl that I love, her birthday and James Cameron have the same birthday.
	What happened when you went down?
	Just cold.
	Cold.
	I just remember icy cold.
	Icy cold.
	Gotta go.
	Oh, hello there.
	First time caller line.
	You are on the air.
	Hello, Art.
	Hi.
	Hey, how are you today?
	I'm attentive.
	What's up, sir?
	Hey, I just wanted to call and share this weird happening.
	That has been occurring to me for about 10 years and I really didn't... I'll meet people, just random people out in public that swear that they've met me before.
	I don't know if it's like one of these weird occurrences where there's like a doppelganger.
	I suppose there could be somebody like that out there.
	In other words, you don't get out a lot, but your doppelganger does, so...
	I mean, and it's just random people that swear, not that they've just seen me, but that they've met me.
	And it hasn't been, but for the past couple of years, I've really started taking it into account.
	And it was really bizarre just recently.
	I mean, this happens probably At least once a month, sometimes up to four to five times a month.
	Imagine how horrible it would be if your doppelganger went around borrowing money from people and never paying them back.
	So, you know, all you'd get is people coming up demanding money.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Well, it hasn't been until recently, like within the past week that I've had a very bizarre encounter that involves this.
	It's happening and it was at a convenience store.
	I came out of the convenience store and went to get into the car and some guy flagged me down and he just started a conversation with me.
	He said, hey, how are you doing?
	He said, man, it's been so long.
	It's been like a year since I talked to you.
	I've never seen a guy before.
	I remember faces.
	He was so excited to see me, I just acted like I knew him and talked to him for about twenty minutes and then I get in the car with my girlfriend.
	I have no idea, but he knew me.
	So rather than going through the no, sorry, I don't know you bit, you just went along and I guess he just thinks he had another conversation with the great guy that he once met, right?
	Yeah, and he was so excited to see me, so I didn't want to disappoint him.
	Actually, that was a very kind thing of you to do, sir.
	Very kind.
	Let's go... Let's see.
	I realize I'm not giving people enough time here.
	Let's go outside the country and say hi, Sean.
	Well, hello!
	Hello.
	Yeah, um... Ah, never mind.
	Never mind?
	Aw, Sean.
	So that was just sort of a stupid trick.
	Aw, never mind, really.
	That might have been a response to my trick, so I probably deserve that, right?
	Let's go to, I think, Brandon.
	Hi.
	Hi, Art.
	It's Sharon.
	It's nice to talk to you again.
	Good to have you.
	What prompted me to call this time was your show last night about past lives.
	Yes.
	There's another radio show on the Dark Matter Radio Network called Epic Voyages.
	Are you familiar with that one?
	No.
	I'm sorry.
	Well, this particular show had a guest, Richard House, M.D., and he had talked about many things.
	I guess he had a book out called Between Now and When, How My Death Made My Life Worth Living.
	He had touched on reincarnation and what you've discussed tonight with some people made me think of this particular interview and I think that and you can tell me what you think or maybe other people will call in about the purpose of reincarnation or past lives and what drew me into this particular man's story was that I guess if we do come back as different people in different circumstances, whether it's returning as someone who is extremely poor or returning as someone who is extremely rich, it makes me think that we're supposed to grow or learn from each experience to become more, I don't know, more enlightened or more aware
	Or closer, somehow?
	Well, that's kind of the story that always has gone along with reincarnation.
	That you are constantly improving yourself and each incarnation you're a little better, striving eventually to get to perfection and then move on.
	Yeah, and I think there's some truth to that, don't you?
	There may well be.
	I know I'm nowhere near it.
	Well, I do have to say something, too.
	These shows kind of open my mind a little more.
	I just recently became a Roman Catholic earlier this year.
	I'm an adult, obviously, but was baptized as an adult.
	I'm still learning about the faith to a large degree.
	There's so much to learn but this is something that I never really considered because this gentleman seemed to be so insightful.
	He had quite the career before he decided to write this book as a doctor and some of the things he was saying just really made me stop and think.
	About how, for example, ignorance leads to knowledge or suffering leads to bliss.
	Ignorance leads to knowledge and suffering leads to bliss?
	Yeah.
	You're referring to another incarnation?
	Right.
	I mean, if I was to return to a... maybe if I go into another past life where there's extreme poverty or something like that, right, which I'm not obviously going through right now, but maybe If I do reincarnate in that type of circumstance, I guess that would be a big learning experience as well, I guess.
	But I just wanted to call and share that.
	All right.
	Well, thank you very much.
	I don't know.
	I don't know what the rules of reincarnation are or are not.
	Let's go to Skype.
	And Sharky, is that right?
	Sort of right.
	It's just a silly name.
	Okay.
	Thanks for having me on, Mr. Bell.
	Sure.
	Happy.
	I'd just like to confess, actually, the first time I called in, I accidentally called you on the international line.
	My bad.
	You mean you didn't hear it?
	You got here earlier with the white noise.
	I would have called in and I was going to go nuts about it.
	I was really curious what you had to say about the superstructure.
	That's really been captivating me lately.
	Thank God somebody out there noticed.
	My God, did I ever notice?
	I went nuts about it.
	Well, thank goodness somebody out there did.
	The evil Roland almost cut me off because he thought something was going wrong with the transmission.
	You and I were on the same page there.
	But I remember when I actually first heard you many, many years ago, many years ago to me anyway, five years ago, I used to listen to you on internet radio.
	I don't remember exactly what the channel was called, but it's your unrecorded shows.
	and they always left out the date on them.
	I was trying to call your old lines because I was so captivated by the show.
	And of course I never figured that out because they always left the dates out, they cut that part out.
	But then I learned that you were actually coming back and I'm so thrilled to hear you again. I really am.
	Well, I'm very happy to be here.
	And I think that this incarnation of the show, since we're talking about incarnations and so forth, is the best ever.
	It's clearly, to me, the best ever.
	Oh, certainly.
	And it was actually your show that really, really got me into thinking.
	I'm not a religious person.
	I was born to a family that had very heavy religion on both sides, both their mothers and their fathers, very devout.
	And for some reason, they just dropped that.
	They didn't carry on with that.
	So the whole matter of the afterlife never really It was never really something I thought about until I started listening to your show.
	And the more I think about it, I always try to take a very, I guess, moderate approach, you know?
	So that if you decided one day just to speak to somebody about it, they wouldn't sort of, you know, blink their eyes and walk away.
	Well, you know, I think that we're upsetting a lot of people.
	Really, I do.
	Based on the messages I'm getting.
	You know, you can go to a part of the Bible where it says, a man shall only live once and then be judged.
	That's it, you know.
	So, if you talk about reincarnation, they get upset.
	You can't avoid it, but my take on it is very peculiar.
	And it's much based off the question, you know, when a tree falls in the forest and there's nobody around, does it really make a sound?
	Yeah, it does.
	And in my mind though, I wonder, when we observe death from an outside perspective, when we're not the one experiencing it, it is to us instantaneous.
	The person is gone.
	They flatline.
	No more.
	Right.
	But in my mind, I wonder, Us as three-dimensional beings, right?
	We experience space, we observe it, our mind is inside of reality.
	And I wonder, to their perspective, if they have one, the person who passes, is time suddenly over to them?
	Because, you know, that's the fourth dimension we have, is time.
	And I wonder, if to them, Is it all over instantly?
	Like, might as well the universe have ended?
	I don't know.
	Final great mystery, isn't it?
	We don't know the answer.
	And that's what causes me to explore things like reincarnation.
	It's just one possible answer.
	There are very few absolutes, right?
	Why we're here, what our mission is on Earth, and what comes after, these are questions that probably are not going to be answered in this lifetime.
	So, nevertheless, the urge is to try.
	So whether it's reincarnation, or it's ghosts, or it's NDEs, or it's so many other things, it's all looking in the same direction.
	And that's kind of, you know, what's next?
	Going to Laguna Beach, I believe.
	Hello.
	Hello, hello.
	Going once, going twice.
	Go on.
	Uh, to New Salem.
	Hi.
	Art Bell.
	That would be me.
	This is Bernadette from Into the Night Facebook fan page.
	Yeah, it's a pretty big fan page, huh?
	You have so many fans, they just love you.
	You just would not believe it.
	There are quite a few different pages out there.
	It's amazing.
	End of the night.
	They all love you.
	They all love you.
	Very kind.
	It's an honor for me to talk to you.
	I have a quick story.
	My fiancé, unfortunately, passed away.
	I dreamt of him.
	I dreamt he and I had a long conversation.
	At the end of the conversation, I gave him a hug.
	I said, well, I love you.
	I guess I'll see you in the next lifetime.
	Like I knew what I was talking about.
	And I woke up and I said, Oh my God, what do you mean next lifetime?
	Do I have to redo this again?
	Is it a different life?
	I didn't know.
	But the end result is I'm not going to the light.
	Oh really?
	I don't want to go to the light.
	In other words, you don't want to do it again.
	I don't want to do it again, and I think it's a trap.
	Maybe we're going through the birth canal again.
	You and John, huh?
	We're coming right back out.
	You and John.
	Well, see, that bothers me a lot.
	I, too.
	Why?
	Well, because now you have put more doubt in my mind about the correct direction upon death.
	I just think it's a trap.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I'm going to hold off.
	I'm not going to the light.
	Okay, well, you know, if you go on the other... What are you going to do?
	I haven't made up my mind yet.
	I guess, you know, when the moment comes, I will choose a direction.
	Alrighty, sir.
	Always a pleasure to talk to you.
	Uh-huh.
	Have a good trip.
	Wherever it is you're going.
	Wow.
	I had a feeling she was quite serious.
	She didn't want to do it again, and in a way I get that too.
	And so she intends to go to the darkness.
	That's just one of those things that you can't unhear.
	There are certain things you cannot un-see, some things you cannot un-hear, some things you just can't forget.
	That's one of them.
	And thanks ma'am, I really appreciate that.
	I'm just calling because you're talking about the past lives and I have this episode in my head that I've had from like a decade ago I guess that you had that's always been running through my head so I just thought I'd call it and talk about it for a second because it's just I think it's a pretty amazing story.
	Sure, go ahead.
	Um, it was about, like, a lady that, like, I guess she was, like, the assistant to, like, a time travel, the guy, the guy that invented the time machine in the future, supposedly.
	And, uh, I guess... Who are we, who are we talking about here?
	She was, like, a lady that, well, it was the guy that, I guess, was, you had on the show that was about, um, uh, alien abductions.
	Had a lot of guys about that.
	Yeah, he was studying a lot of alien abductions for, like, all the common... Oh, are you talking, perhaps, about Dr. Jacobs?
	Maybe that's who it was.
	And, like, he had a book about it, and it was, like, all the different kinds of common... Most of my guests have books, but Dr. Jacobs talked about abduction, and also talked about half-human, half-alien creatures that he believes are on Earth now.
	Uh, yeah, I think that might have been, in this particular instance, it was a lady that was, like, on a, uh, spaceship, and she'd been abducted and put on the spaceship, and there's a man with, like, blonde hair.
	Yes.
	And he, he would, like, psychically talk to her, but, like, um, not, like, verbally, and there's, like, soldiers around the ship and stuff, and he would, like, show her on a screen her, like, other lives and stuff.
	Now you're kind of getting out there where I'm not so sure.
	Yeah.
	And in her future life, she had been the assistant to somebody, or she was going to be the assistant to a guy that invented the time machine.
	And he would take her back to, like, he had a project with the time machine, where he would take her back in time to this place where they, which was the pyramids.
	I've got to be honest with you, you've completely lost me.
	Oh, really?
	Yes.
	Utterly.
	It's a pretty crazy story, I don't know, but yeah.
	Yeah, it is.
	And I'm sorry I don't recall it.
	I have had many, many people on the show telling, you know, somewhat tall tales.
	Some of which could be absolutely true, or others... But that sounded like sort of a compilation of many people that we've had on the show.
	And I'm not exactly sure what he was talking about.
	Somebody else will call and say, well, I knew.
	Hello, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hello.
	Hello, this is Jackie.
	Hi, Jackie.
	Oh, hi.
	That's my name in this life, and my last one, it was Catherine.
	Really?
	Now, I'm very interested in how, you know, you can possibly know that.
	Well, here's how it all started.
	When I was a teenager, I had a dream... Listen, can you hold on?
	Can you hold on?
	I didn't realize we were this close to a break, but I have to break.
	Oh, yeah.
	They make me do it.
	Thank you.
	Okay.
	We'll pause for some information and entertainment and we'll be back with Jackie.
	Music playing.
	Music playing.
	To initiate a dialogue sequence with Art Bell, please direct your finger digits and call 1-952-225-5250.
	That's 1-952.
	Call Art.
	Alright, I guess I better straighten something out.
	Looking at the wormhole screen, everybody's saying, Art, where are your cats?
	Why didn't they get the mouse?
	Okay, so...
	Here's the deal, folks.
	I built my radio studio in our guest house.
	We own a house adjacent to the main house.
	Another whole house, that's right.
	And I bought this house originally so I could put up my antenna.
	Pretty weak reason to buy a house, huh?
	It's actually the truth.
	I bought the house just so I could extend my antenna.
	So, we thought, well, we'll use it as a guest house.
	And rarely have we ever had that opportunity.
	A few times.
	Bob and Sue Crane and a few others.
	But basically, it stands idle.
	So, when it came time to do the radio show again, I thought, well, I certainly can't do it from the main house, because my studio, or radio room, which is now my amateur radio room, is adjacent to my daughter's room, who is, you know, just eight years old.
	So I would obviously wake her up, and that led to the decision to build the studio here in the guest house.
	So I hope that straightens it out.
	I really do.
	And let me go ahead and grab this overseas call and go back to the lady that was on the phone.
	You're back on the air, ma'am.
	Oh, okay.
	I was telling you, this is kind of how it started for me.
	I had a dream when I was about 18.
	And it was so intense and when I woke up I felt as if I had just been on fire.
	So I woke up and I was in a sweat and I was panicked, you know, how you would be if you were actually burning.
	And then it just stuck with me and then about seven years later, something like that, I had the same dream again.
	And I thought, okay, this is weird.
	So I started thinking about it more, like why would I be burning up?
	What was going on and so it just stuck with me and I kept thinking about the reasons why that would be happening and what the room looked like and I remember thinking that I wanted to open a window.
	So I was like looking toward the window and it started from there.
	I kind of saw the inside of the room, saw the outside of the house and started seeing things about that experience there.
	And I started seeing myself sitting on a stone wall, and I was laughing, and I don't remember why, and then some memories started coming back, and I realized that I lived in a town called Stonewall, Mississippi.
	Okay.
	Yeah, and so I started talking to my husband, and he said it kind of sounded familiar to him, too.
	And so we were kind of shooting ideas back and forth, and some of the things that he remembered were what I remembered, and we realized that we knew each other then.
	In another life.
	Oh man, that's a cool story.
	That really is a cool story.
	20 years ago.
	Yeah, and we realized we'd been married before in several different lives.
	Holy moly.
	And I've had the same dad, same brother.
	Yeah, and even my son.
	This is really hilarious.
	In one of my lives, one of my sons was my horse.
	Okay, we're going to... I've got so little time left, so I'm going to have to leave it there, but that was a good story.
	Can you imagine a man and woman sort of slowly, detail by detail, realizing that they were previously married?
	My goodness.
	Pretty good one, I would say.
	Let's go to the phone and say hi.
	You're on the air.
	Hi, Larry.
	This is Wes from Fort Wayne, Indiana.
	Hey there.
	Hey, how are you doing?
	Well.
	Yeah, I'd like to... Oh, go ahead.
	I said I'm doing well.
	Oh, well.
	Hey, I'd like to tell you about an experience I had.
	About two years ago, I was at home sitting in a chair and I closed my eyes and then all of a sudden I am on a slab and I can't move.
	There are two beings to my left, they are like machine creatures, and they are communicating to me, telling me to stay calm, everything's fine, and I like ask them what they are, and we're all one.
	And I look around and there's like this bustling city around me, there are like creatures moving about, like living lives apparently, and everything looks more real than this reality ever could.
	So it was a world of machines?
	Yeah, and I kind of feel like we're those machines living in a reality that's sort of built by them so we can experience biological life.
	That's pretty interesting.
	You don't find after that you get a craving for little three-in-one oil or something?
	No, but I do feel better about the afterlife.
	I don't feel scared or, you know, anything about dying.
	I do believe we continue beyond this existence, for sure.
	Still worried, thank you, about the lady turning to the darkness.
	Cause, said she, she doesn't want to do it again.
	Ron, hello on Skype.
	Hi Art, how's it going?
	It's going great.
	Oh, from ex-Montana.
	I wanted to know, who told you that that craft was a triangle?
	Sir, you're kind of all broken up on us here.
	Am I?
	Yeah, you are.
	Something about a triangle?
	Yeah, you said that the Terezin sphere was shaped as a triangle.
	Okay, no, please listen on the air, we can't continue with that.
	What I said was, there are some scientists, this was a legit story the other day, not what I did earlier today, there are some scientists who believe That if it turns out to be a triangular shape, in essence a perfect triangle, that that would be the sign that it's an alien civilization and they wish to communicate.
	You would not find perfect triangles in nature.
	That was the sort of the angle of the discussion.
	So, if it does turn out to be essentially a perfect triangle, that's An alien civilization trying to say hello, trying to say, hey, we're out here, and so forth.
	We'll see.
	The big dishes are pointed that way.
	Let's go to Royal Oaks, Michigan?
	Royal Oak, Michigan, I guess?
	Hello?
	Yes, can you hear me, Art?
	I hear you, sir.
	It was a, I guess about eight months ago, I had a strange dream and in this dream I was in what I think was a museum and I saw a whole bunch of... I think it was a museum or something built out of someone's home and I saw a lot of what I think were African artifacts
	Okay.
	and someone handed me a business card.
	And on this card was a name that was spelled O-N-E-S-I-L-E.
	And I'm not quite sure how that's pronounced.
	And I remember what the building sort of looked like.
	The building was a little bit of a mess.
	sort of looked like.
	Not sure where it was.
	But after I woke up from that dream, I Googled that name.
	And it's a first name, actually.
	And it appears to be French.
	The thing is, is that I found several spellings of that name, including O-N-E-S-I-L-E, as well as O-N-A-Z-I-E.
	Sir, where are we going with this?
	Well, my point is, is that I did not know this was a name.
	I had never seen this name before.
	I never heard this name before.
	I did not even know how it was pronounced.
	But it was in fact genuine.
	Yes?
	It was something I'd seen in a dream or heard in a dream that I'd never heard of in real life ever before.
	And when you checked it out?
	And when I checked it out, I found on Ancestry.com, I guess it's on style?
	I'm afraid I'm all lost.
	I'm lost with what you're saying.
	what that's all about.
	But it is in fact, it's something I had only heard for the first time before.
	I'm afraid, I'm all lost, I'm lost with what you're saying.
	I'm not getting what you're saying.
	I mean I hear what you're saying.
	I just don't get where you're going.
	My point is, I've seen or heard a name in a dream before.
	Got that.
	And I've never heard it in real life.
	I did not even know it was a name.
	Now, you went to Ancestry.com and you found somebody in your family with that name?
	Is that what you're saying?
	Not in my family.
	Not connected to you at all?
	No. And that seems significant to me in the sense that you've heard a name you've never heard of before.
	And then you find it.
	I've got it, okay.
	Well, I don't think that that necessarily adds to the conversation of reincarnation, exactly.
	But it was sort of an interesting story.
	In Las Vegas, you're on the air.
	Las Vegas?
	Yes, hello?
	Oh, good.
	This is Joe on the other side of the hill.
	Right.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	First, I want to compliment you.
	You're one of the very few hosts that actually say your piece about global warming, and I'm very proud of that.
	I'm very proud of you.
	Very few people, as you know, can service talk radio, that this is all a myth, so I applaud you.
	Well, that's because most of talk radio is right-wing.
	Politically.
	You're kidding me.
	I never thought.
	Come on.
	And secondly, your guest the other night with regression.
	I'm a very cynical person.
	I'm very skeptical about a lot of things.
	And of course, I love your radio program because it really puts those antennas up.
	But that gentleman was so credible and so believable because Is that he would admit things that he would simply say, I don't know.
	And that's such a refreshing thing to hear.
	Yeah, I love that, actually.
	I love it.
	When people don't know and actually just say, I don't know, I love it because too many guests, I'm sorry to say, are in the category of whatever you ask them, if they don't know, they'll make it up.
	Yeah, they bloatgate.
	Their authorities on everything and they pinpoint it.
	But this guy... To be fair, there aren't that many authorities on the whole idea of many lives or reincarnation or any of that.
	There's not many authorities, but this fellow was really, really good.
	Yeah, I hope we... I sure hope you have him on again.
	I just want to let you know that my wife and I, our favorite thing in bed is to listen to you.
	To listen to me?
	Well, you're...
	Bedtime needs some work there, my friend.
	While I'm glad you're listening, I don't know that I'm glad that I'm your favorite thing.
	Anyway, hello, you're on the air.
	Louisville, Kentucky, I think.
	Yes, yes, yes.
	Yeah, I was just wanting to comment on the megastructure.
	If you imagine a star, like our own, and then take a planet the size of Earth, And then you have a megastructure going out about that distance.
	You know, you'd have to imagine the Earth being the size of the molecule of that structure.
	So the amount of matter that would be required to make it, you know, would constitute millions, if not billions, of the entire mass of several star systems.
	It would.
	So that alone, you know, kind of makes it unlikely.
	However, you can also just snap your fingers and just have it appear, poof, there it is, the gravity of its own gravity with the college class and i
	thought it would please
	and and i like to go ahead and uh... within a couple minutes
	create a pretty powerful singularity alerts like a minute you could just
	yeah even if you could just magically make it appear
	it wouldn't be a little after a while you know i don't know where i'm going to
	listen we're talking about
	the possibility of an alien race that would it be be able to control the power
	of the star As described by, uh, Dr. Kaku writes...
	So, one would imagine they might have ways around these things.
	If they could manipulate the basic principles of the universe, I don't think they'd bother making megastructures.
	But, you know, I'd say the likelihood is that what you have is a very dense cloud structure around the star that, you know, imagine like the wings of a plant, like Saturn.
	The problem with that theory, sir, is that these light dimming and then brightening is very sharp, indicating that it's a very sharp structure of some sort where a cloud of some kind, as you're talking about, would lead to a much slower dimming and a much slower brightening as you came in and out of something that Yeah, I understand.
	But when I say cloud, I'm using that to explain the density would be such as to be allowed to exist.
	Basically like the thickness in relation to the rings of Saturn.
	So, even though it's very thin, if Saturn was putting out flight and you were getting the dimness from it, it would be very sharp in and out.
	Well, that remains to be seen.
	It's a fascinating adventure we're on right now, isn't it?
	Yeah, but mainly it's the fact that that much matter couldn't be there without itself becoming, at the very least.
	Be careful about saying couldn't be.
	Almost anything could be.
	What we need to do is keep doing the science and find out what really is.
	Well, I'm a big science fiction buff, so I would love it if there was such a thing.
	Unfortunately, my physics training doesn't allow for it.
	Well, your physics training should allow for the possibility that somebody is thousands and thousands of light years ahead of us.
	Which they would be.
	In theory, if I could make something thin enough, and I mean very thin, but then you'd have the problem of you really wouldn't hold to it if it was a structure like, let's say, you wanted to have it where you were on the side that was facing the star.
	Sir, what do you think would happen if I could take my iPhone 6 back and show it to somebody in 1900?
	I'm sure they would be impressed, but it would still follow the laws of physics.
	It would.
	Not to them.
	Not to them, sir.
	To them, the laws of physics at that time absolutely made impossible something that complicated and small.
	I mean, they weren't even... Anyway, I hope you get what I'm talking about.
	So, you know, yeah.
	Maybe unlikely, but without the possibility it could be.
	I can't believe this program is ending.
	They all do this.
	They end too quickly.
	So everybody have a wonderful weekend in all 25 time zones out there from the high desert.

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