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Aug. 17, 2015 - Art Bell

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Art Bell MITD - Joe Rogan & David Sereda ET Contact

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	Alright, um, here we go.
	This is gonna be fun.
	Joe Rogan, a stand-up comedian.
	For more than 20 years, Joe Rogan has sold out theaters internationally, with London's Guardian newspaper praising him as one of the most complex and exciting stand-ups working in America today.
	That is high praise.
	His fourth hour-long special, Joe Rogan, Rocky Mountain High, premiered on Comedy Central November 21, 2014, and you may get it as a digital video or audio download.
	He is host of the Joe Rogan Experience, featuring long-form conversation, God bless him for that, with guests, that is one of the most popular podcasts online.
	Since 2002, he has provided color commentary for the UFC, the Ultimate Fighting Championship.
	I'll have questions about that on pay-per-view, Spike Television, and now on Fox.
	So coming up in just a moment, somebody I know you're waiting for, Joe Rogan.
	Joe Rogan, welcome to Midnight in the Desert.
	Thank you for having me on, sir.
	It's a huge honor.
	No, it's my honor.
	I've been a fan of yours.
	I guess we spoke briefly before the show, and I guess we've been fans of each other for a while.
	Yeah, well, when I used to drive home from the comic store late at night, you kept me company many, many, many a night.
	I've been a huge, huge fan of your show.
	And you for a long time.
	So for me, this is just a huge treat.
	Well, thank you.
	All right.
	So you did a big show, Fear Factor.
	You did it for a long time.
	I think there were six seasons of it, right?
	Yeah.
	And now you're doing a podcast.
	I was on national radio everywhere.
	Now I'm doing a podcast.
	Pretty cool.
	well it's a beautiful time for for broadcasting that sense that anybody can
	put something out online you don't have to have a network you don't have to have
	uh... anything other than an internet connection and that some place it's
	willing to host it and it's a really incredible times and because i think we're getting like really diverse shows
	you know all these different people that like myself
	that probably would have never done an actual radio show who are enjoying the freedom that the internet provides
	I agree, Joe.
	Where do you think this means broadcasting is going?
	I mean, there's these giant radio networks, even television.
	I think AT&T just ate DirecTV and now you can see all DirecTV on AT&T.
	Wow.
	Well, I think the really big networks, what they're good for is high budget things like Game of Thrones or something along those lines.
	It requires millions of dollars in special effects.
	But for something like what you do or something like what I do, all you really need is a couple of tech people to run things and get things online and that's it.
	You don't need giant networks, you don't need interference, producers, people that are...
	Running things that I'm sure you don't care about, like demographics and all that jazz.
	Yes, sir.
	All that unnecessary stuff.
	Yeah, I mean, I think that it's better.
	I think it's better this way.
	I agree.
	All right, I've got to ask a little bit about Fear Factor, because I was like a total fan.
	In fact, here's a question for you.
	I was used to seeing it every week, and then suddenly there were some weird splits where Fear Factor wouldn't be on for a long time, and then there'd be an episode and it wouldn't be on again for a long time.
	Do you remember that?
	I sorta, I don't know what that was about.
	It was probably just they had saved a few episodes and, you know, they do weird stuff with ratings.
	Ratings, you know, they're always trying to manipulate things during sweeps and I never really understood how all that stuff works.
	What was it like, you know, everybody is going to want me to ask this, for you to watch these poor people facing, you know, like Central American biting, scratching, eating furry, gushy things, carrying them with their mouth and then drinking a blender full of them or something like that.
	How was that?
	It was as bizarre for me being there, being the host of it, as it was for anybody to watch it.
	90% of the time I would show up at work and I'd be just shaking my head going, I can't believe this is a real show.
	It was very, very strange.
	As a matter of fact, the reason why I was willing to do it in the first place was because I was convinced that it was going to be something that was only on the air for a couple episodes and then I would have material to make fun of.
	I just thought it was something completely ridiculous.
	I'm like, there's no way this is going to stay on television.
	148 episodes later.
	Yeah, that's right.
	Which brings me to this.
	With those kinds of shows, you kind of have to keep topping yourself a little bit, right?
	Yeah.
	Did it get to the point where you wondered if people would live through the next episode?
	Well, it didn't the first time around, but the second time around, we did it again for seven more episodes, I think it was, in 2011, I believe it was, and then I was worried, because there were some episodes that we did where they really kept upping the ante further and further, and there was a few accidents where nobody got hurt, nothing serious, but it was like, wow, this is more risky than we ever did before, and I always felt like we got lucky.
	Yeah, I know, but I think that's sort of the earth evening things out.
	like they had a ride bulls and I'm like that is just a risk you're just rolling
	the dice oh yeah and anything can happen when you have a bull involved as we've
	seen I don't know if you pay attention to the running of the bulls is that one
	of the deadliest years ever they 11 people were killed and they're running
	of the bulls this year yeah I know but I think that's sort of the earth evening
	things out these people don't belong running in front of bulls anyway I'm
	Kind of a cleansing.
	All right, so now you have this podcast, and I've heard that you do some paranormal occasionally.
	You do sort of everything, right?
	Yeah, well, I've done quite a bit of paranormal, and I did quite a bit on the... I did a sci-fi show called Joe Rogan Questions Everything.
	uh... where i you know met with a lot of people that were you know open addicts
	and bigfoot people a lot of strange stuff and what one of the time around the top very unfortunate
	because i've been a huge fan of just uh... did i just love the idea of u of those even
	if it's not real Love the idea of Bigfoot.
	I love the possibility of uncovering some massive mystery like that, of human beings uncovering something like that.
	Yeah, of course.
	But what I found doing the show that I didn't like was that there was a lot of... what I was dealing with more than actual facts was psychology.
	And you get into the psychology of people that believe in things that don't necessarily make sense, where they're not looking at it objectively.
	Instead, they're choosing to only look at certain information, only look at certain data, and don't look at anything that conflicts with that.
	Yes, I know.
	I know.
	It's a problem.
	It is a problem in ufology and all over the paranormal.
	But still, I'm one of those people who I want to believe there is something more.
	There has to be something more, I think.
	Well, I definitely want to.
	And if there isn't something more, then I guess we won't care.
	Yeah.
	I mean, wanting to believe is critical.
	I mean, of course.
	Who wouldn't want a UFO to fly right over the White House lawn and everyone to watch it on television?
	I think it would be a huge, unique bonding experience for mankind if we really were visited.
	It's like that famous Ronald Reagan speech during the Cold War, how quickly we would abandon our differences with the Soviet Union if we were faced with a threat from another world.
	And we would, too.
	Oh, immediately.
	Right away, it would snap things into perspective.
	You know, I think the idea of this whole entire planet as being one community would really come into focus if we really Well, we are a warrior-like people, and I speak of Americans when I say that.
	And I suppose as a world, we're a warrior-like people, so it figures we'd have to have a war to bring us together.
	Right.
	Yeah, in a lot of ways, that's unfortunate but true.
	Right.
	Do you do politics on your show at all?
	Well, I do a little, but quite honestly, the game is so rigged.
	It's such a hustle.
	Well, it normally is.
	And the only thing I want to ask you is your view on Trump.
	Well, I like people that stir things up.
	I loved Ross Perot back when he was running for president because there was a guy that had a ton of money and really didn't need the establishment anymore.
	And I think there's in some ways you get that with Trump and you get you get a guy who's going to be brutally honest about things but you also get a guy talking about Mexicans being rapists and a lot of crazy stuff that people like well he's he's in many ways like a lot of really wealthy successful people he's a buffoon because he's this guy with this tremendous ego because he's accomplished so much and one of the ways he's accomplished it It's by having this sort of bulldog determination and plow through no matter what.
	And that leads him to think that he can be the king of the world.
	And that's where he's at right now, pushing forward and trying to become president.
	And he's ahead in all the polls by a large margin.
	Right.
	Like over double, I think, the next guy.
	So yeah.
	It's early.
	It's an early game.
	And we all know that sometimes it's not.
	It's like running a marathon.
	You know, you see a guy sprint right out the gate running full blast.
	How long can that guy keep that up?
	Most of the time they can't.
	That's right.
	All right, let's switch completely subjects because I'm really interested in this one.
	You apparently have had experiences.
	Did you know Terrence McKenna?
	I didn't know Terrence, but I do know his brother Dennis.
	I've had his brother Dennis on my show a few times, but I was hugely influenced by Terrence's appearances on your show, in fact.
	Right.
	There's some MP3s floating around of him live From Hawaii, from the Big Island, on a broadband spectrum radio signal.
	That's right.
	Fascinating, fascinating podcast from, or excuse me, radio show from back in the day.
	And I've listened to it many times.
	What an amazing man he was.
	And I too have, well of course I interviewed Terrence and then I'm going to interview Dennis again.
	I've done it before.
	So I guess the big question is your experience, if any, with DMT.
	I've had quite a few and in fact I have a DMT tattoo on my left arm because of one of them that I had was so profound that I just felt the need to mark it on my body.
	It was such an insane experience.
	That profound?
	Okay, can you actually explain that experience?
	It's very difficult to explain because the idea of DMT, when you hear about it from someone who's never experienced it, or rather when you try to explain it to someone who's never experienced it, it sounds like you're seeing some things that aren't there.
	Oh, you're into hallucinating.
	You're into escape from reality.
	When you get into the reality of what the drug is, it's a human neurotransmitter that exists in your own body.
	Your lungs make it, your liver makes it, your brain makes it, the pineal gland creates it, and it's the most intense psychedelic drug known to man.
	And what's even more bizarre, and I'm sure you know this, but maybe some people listening don't, it's in thousands of different plants.
	It's all over the world.
	It's in almost every ecosystem ever observed.
	And they don't know why.
	It's a very bizarre and mysterious psychedelic drug that is also a massive part of the world that we live in.
	And when you take it, you experience something that knows everything, or at least appears to.
	They communicate with you in some sort of strange language.
	There's a lot of repeated themes.
	There's telepathic communication.
	There's some sort of way of Expressing to you truth in some undeniable form, but with love and beauty and impossible geometric patterns that are just fractal and floating through the air all around you.
	It feels like, what it feels like is you in the presence of a higher power.
	It feels like what I would imagine it would be to make contact with some sort of a divine entity.
	And I think that when you look at All these different UFO abduction experiences that people have had that take place in the middle of the night where you're in heavy REM sleep, where many people believe the endogenous dumps of DMT are going on through the brain, many people believe that it's responsible for dreaming.
	And I say believe because there's a lot of good work being done right now on this by Dr. Rick Strassman and his Cottonwood Research Foundation, and you can learn a lot more about the technical aspects of it from guys like him and from Dennis McKenna.
	But what it feels like when you're there is like you're communicating with God.
	That's really what it feels like.
	All right.
	For a lot of the audience that doesn't know, there are other hallucinogens, of course, for example, LSD, which was a very different and long experience, and mushrooms and so forth.
	But DMT is kind of in a different class, isn't it?
	It's rather short In duration?
	Yeah, yeah, very very short the when you're smoking it which is the way most people to get it
	it lasts about 15 minutes and It's in it's one of the reason they call it the business
	man's high But it's really odd that they call it that because it's one
	of the last thing you'd want to do after you do it is Do any kind of business?
	Right, but it's extremely transient your body gets rid of it and brings you back to baseline inside of 15-20 minutes
	any danger I
	Think anytime you're dealing with something so mind-bogglingly Extraordinary there's the possibility that people with weak
	hearts people that Don't have the steadiest nerves or perhaps maybe the they
	don't have the best grip on reality I think anybody that has real psychological problems should
	probably avoid Psychedelic drugs until they've reached some form of
	stability in their life anyway Have you ever had a flashback?
	I've never had a flashback to where I fully went into it, but I've gotten to the door and peeked in.
	It's disturbing.
	It is.
	It's so readily available.
	It is, especially at dinner with several people.
	Yeah, it just gives you that little nervous thing, does anybody know what just happened to me?
	But really, it seems to be the flashbacks that a lot of people have, they have when they're dreaming.
	Many people who have done it, I've only had, like I said, a peek through the door, but many people who have done DMT have had dreams where they smoke it and then fully immersed into the DMT realm again.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	You said you felt like you were in touch with a higher power.
	The high power?
	I mean, do you think that, I don't know, God is a word we throw around, but, you know, is that what you're talking about?
	Well, it would be pretty arrogant if I assumed it was the higher power, because I think being a lower thing, like humans, I mean, obviously the highest that we know of, but we can conceive of something eventually being more evolved, more grand, bigger than us.
	And I think whatever this is, it's that.
	Is it the higher?
	It's very possible that this experience is merely the tip of the iceberg, and there's something below that that's even more mind-boggling, even more profound.
	While you're doing it, it feels so titanically alien that nothing could be any crazier.
	But I think that could very well just be a perception issue, a reference issue, the fact that we don't really have a lot of experiences to compare it to that are that crazy.
	But it could just be the beginning.
	And that's one of the things that a lot of people who get heavily into psychedelics, and Terrence talked about this quite a bit, that they always want to see further.
	They want to go deeper.
	Because they always have this feeling that there's something, like, you take 5 grams, you want to try 7.
	You take 7, you want to try 10.
	And you want to go deeper and deeper into the world of mushrooms, or the world of DMT, or ayahuasca, or any of the known psychedelics.
	I think that's one of the things that happens to people that are frequent travelers, is they want this experience.
	They feel like maybe there's more to it, that even as crazy and as bizarre and alien and strange and awe-inspiring as it is, it may just be the beginning of this infinite spectrum of possibility.
	Would you say that your experience with DMT has changed your day-to-day life in any way?
	Yeah, I think it's changed me.
	I think what we are is how we've interpreted all of our experiences, how we've interpreted our interactions with people, our time on this planet.
	When something comes along that just throws a monkey wrench into the gears and shows you something that not only did you never imagine, but feels like you could never have possibly imagined without this experience.
	That now your point of reference has changed dramatically.
	Now instead of having this small spectrum of possibilities, you have this possibility that's so far out to the left or to the right that you can't see the end of it.
	And you never thought that was possible until you have that experience.
	And I think that profoundly changes you as a person.
	Because we are really just an accumulation of our experiences.
	Our interpretations of those experiences and how we've learned from them and how we apply them to our lives.
	The times that I've done DMT, I've always walked out of it feeling like it at least has the potential from this for me to be a better person.
	You said that you heard different languages from, I guess, entities or whatever.
	Did you actually see something and could you detect that it was a human language or non-human?
	Well, the language seems to be, you seem to hear it telepathically more than anything.
	And there's a lot of like repeating themes.
	Like you hear, there's a lot of people say, you hear, look at this, I've heard that, I've heard it.
	And I've heard a lot of other people say the same thing.
	They show you different insane things.
	I remember one time I did it, I was literally crying because they kept saying, look at this.
	And they would show me something insanely beautiful.
	And then it was like, I have little kids.
	I have a five year old and a seven year old.
	And one of the things that my five year old says, she'll say things that are really cute and adorable.
	I love you a million, five hundred thousand, million, five hundred thousand, billion, zillion, infinity, times a million times.
	You know, numbers that aren't real.
	Well, that happened in my DMT experience, one of the first ones I ever did.
	They would sing a little song like, I love you six hundred million, five hundred thousand, five hundred million times.
	Then it would go, look at this!
	And then every time I'd go, look at this, it would show you something infinitely more beautiful than what you just saw.
	And then it would keep going on and on and on until tears were rolling down my face.
	I think a lot of that, it's a sound, I mean, you're understanding what they're saying, you're understanding words, but I'm not exactly sure you're hearing it more than you're hearing it in your mind.
	And it's one of the reasons why I connect it to the UFO abduction experience, because one of the things that you hear from these people that have been, that have had these classic UFO abduction scenarios, is telepathic communication, where there's words in their mind And they're not exactly sure if they're hearing them, or if they're being transmitted somehow directly to their consciousness.
	And it kind of feels like that when you're doing DMT.
	Wow.
	Is there any advice that you would give as a big listening audience out there, and they're listening and going, DMT, hmm, is this something I want to try?
	Only you can answer that.
	I really think that's a personal thing.
	And I've told people they should do it before, but it's probably irresponsible of me.
	Really, I think everybody's got their own psychological makeup, and everybody's got their own path in this life.
	And if it's something that you're compelled to try, there's a lot of people that believe, and I've heard this from many people that have done it, that DMT finds you.
	You don't find DMT.
	You might go looking for it, but really it finds you and decides whether or not you should do it.
	Doesn't necessarily make sense to me and it sounds like an adorable thing to say, you know It sounds cute profound some sort of strange way Is it really separate from ayahuasca from anything else is DMT unto itself one thing?
	That's a good question that someone else should probably answer.
	Dennis would probably be better at that because I've never done ayahuasca.
	I've only done the condensed version of it.
	The difference for folks at home that are listening that don't know, ayahuasca is like a slow-release DMT and it was created by the indigenous Amazon people because they don't have chemistry labs, they can't synthesize DMT, they can't extract it from these plants the way they do it in labs.
	So what they do is they use the root of one plant and the leaves of another plant.
	So one plant contains the DMT and the other contains an MAO inhibitor,
	a natural MAO inhibitor.
	And MAO is monoamine oxidase.
	And what that is, is something that your gut produces that breaks down DMT when you eat it.
	That's why if you eat, like Folaris grass or something that's rich in DMT, you don't get high from it.
	The reason being is monoamine oxidase breaks it down inside your body.
	Well, these ingenious people, thousands of years ago, figured out how to combine these two plants.
	It's a really complicated process with a Brew it up and what they did is they created a slow-release DMT trip and it's not from the people and again, this is I haven't had this experience I'm just relaying from people that have it's not as intense Not as like not as it's the DMT flash that you get when you smoke it
	You rarely reach that state, but you have this profound long-term experience that instead of taking 15 minutes, takes several hours.
	Wow!
	Alright, let's move on to the totality of... How do you feel about... We're legalizing marijuana now.
	Here in my state, Nevada, we've got medical marijuana at last.
	Other states are completely legalizing it.
	Where is it going in America eventually with drugs?
	I mean our jails are full of people for drug violations of one sort or another.
	What do you think?
	Well, locking people up for experimenting with their consciousness is criminal.
	I really think that.
	And it's very contradictory when you look at all the drugs that are legal.
	The really intense, powerful drugs that are easy to get.
	Anybody knows, if you've ever had a back injury, you can get Oxycontin or all sorts of different painkillers like that.
	It's not hard to get.
	All you have to do is have a legit reason to have them.
	I had this guy, Chris Bell, on my podcast who made the documentary Bigger, Stronger, Faster.
	It was a steroid documentary, and he injured himself.
	He had hip surgery and got hooked on OxyContin.
	He's got a new prescription out called Prescription Thugs.
	It's sort of dealing with the prescription drug business.
	There's plenty of drugs that perturb our consciousness.
	We can walk into any liquor store or any grocery store and buy enough booze to kill ourselves.
	So it's not that anyone's protecting you from anything.
	What it is, is we have sanctioned drugs.
	And these sanctioned drugs, they, you know, they get a lot of money from them, and then there's a lot of tax revenue that come out of it, and there's also a lot of people that have a vested interest in continuing to keep those drugs legal.
	All right.
	Hold it right there.
	We'll be right back.
	For Dark Matter News, I'm Leo Ashcroft.
	Pitcher, Oklahoma.
	It's a ghost town and former city in Ottawa County, Oklahoma.
	Formerly a major national center of lead and zinc mining at the heart of the Tri-State Mining District, over a century of unrestricted subsurface excavation dangerously undermined most of Pitcher's Town buildings and left giant piles of toxic metal contaminated mine tailings heaped throughout the area.
	The discovery of the cave-in risks, groundwater contamination, and health effects associated with the chat piles and subsurface shafts, particularly an alarming 1996 study which showed lead poisoning in 34% of the children in Pitcher.
	This eventually prompted a mandatory evacuation and buyout of the entire township by the state of Oklahoma and the incorporation of the town, along with the similarly contaminated satellite towns of Treece and Cardin.
	An F4 tornado, which destroyed or damaged 150 homes in May 2008, accelerated the exodus.
	The town ceased official operations on September 1st, 2009.
	Google knows what you did last summer.
	Now it shows it to you on Google Maps.
	Today, the Google Maps team launched a feature called Your Timeline.
	That is about where you've already been.
	It's not a social feature, as you're the only one who sees it.
	But, it's a reminder of how much data Google has on all of us, if we leave all of our defaults on.
	If you Google photos, your pictures will appear along with the places you've stopped along the way.
	A Kansas woman said she stepped outside with her dog and noticed something unusual in the sky.
	The moon and the stars were gone.
	She said everyone came out of their house and were all pointing at the sky.
	And what they saw covering the sky was disturbing.
	The thing was dead silent.
	They said, massive, so big, so huge.
	But the sighting didn't last long.
	And it took off with the blink of an eye and no noise.
	She said it wasn't round like a saucer.
	It was kind of like an arrowhead shape.
	The entire bottom of it was pitch black.
	Until it took off.
	And then it was multicolored lights at the bottom.
	As the object moved away, the woman's daughter became terrified.
	A former state trooper from Washington say that he is currently in contact with several Bigfoot creatures and that he feeds them food regularly.
	The man who provided a name but chose to remain anonymous said that the encounters have been happening since 2009 in a remote area in the North Cascades.
	He said sometimes it's five to ten minutes, other times they stay for hours.
	He says he leaves them apples, carrots, beef jerky, cookies, and candy bars.
	The man says he was looking for an old mine in the mountains the first time he came across the alleged beings in 2009.
	After leaving the food out there for him, he says they seem to have started following him and getting closer.
	He says he's been as close as 20 feet to some of them.
	He reports that he was so close to them that he was able to catch some of their language on two different occasions.
	He said it sounded like Native American and an Asian mix.
	The creatures reportedly stand between 6 and 7 feet tall and probably weigh in at about 500 pounds, females being a little lighter.
	He describes them as having a human face, some with dark hair, others red or brown, probably about 3 to 4 inches long, adding that the females had small breasts.
	He claims he's not the only one to have seen the creatures in the area.
	Numerous people have also purportedly seen them while accompanying the man.
	The former state trooper says the creatures have never presented a threat to him and that he leaves them alone and he's not interested in hunting them or gathering physical evidence.
	Florida resident John Bird last year claimed to feed Bigfoot potatoes and plantains on a regular basis.
	In the spring of 1982, a soldier training at Fort Leonard Wood Army Base in Missouri claimed to have spotted a 7-foot tall creature with brown hair that resembles the former state trooper's alleged sighting.
	Portions on the United States side of the range are part of the North Cascades National Park.
	There were reports revealing the intentions of the U.S.
	Army to annex part of the region as a helicopter training area, drawing criticism from the Forest Service employees for environmental ethics.
	I'm Leo Ashcraft.
	This has been Dark Matter News.
	Hey Joe, um, what's your opinion of French dressing?
	French dressing?
	French dressing.
	Ranch dressing!
	Oh, ranch dressing.
	Yeah, ranch dressing.
	There's something there.
	Yeah, that's my friend Joey Diaz.
	He's got a quote that you can't really say on this radio show, but it's either blue cheese with wings or then something explicit.
	But that's Joey Diaz.
	If you don't know who he is, he's the funniest person, I believe, the funniest person that's ever lived.
	When you do a podcast show, do you need somebody to bounce?
	Off of, I mean, do you do it absolutely by yourself or do you have somebody?
	No, no, I almost never do it by myself.
	I've done a few in the early days by myself, but I either do them with just a bunch of different guests or I do it with my occasional co-host, Brian Redband.
	I did one of them today with him, who's a longtime friend of mine.
	And we just, we do one every week or so.
	We just go over crazy stories in the internet.
	You really need somebody, if you're going to do comedy, you really need somebody there, don't you?
	Yeah, but they're not always comedy.
	See, my podcast is very confusing.
	It's in the comedy section, but sometimes I'm talking to professors.
	Tomorrow I'm talking to Jeff Nowitzki, who is the guy who busted Lance Armstrong, and we're going to talk all about the different performance-enhancing drugs they use on the Tour de France, and how they avoid getting caught, and what's going on right now in professional sports, where they test, and how they get around these things.
	He's a guy that was hired by the UFC recently to clean up the sport.
	The UFC has quite an image issue when it comes to performance enhancing drugs.
	Mixed martial arts in general does.
	There's just so much on the line for these guys that a lot of them are willing to take chances with illegal substances.
	And we're going to discuss that tomorrow.
	Is UFC real?
	Oh, it's 100% real.
	100% real, huh?
	Oh, it's 100% real.
	100%.
	100% real, huh?
	100%.
	Whereas regular wrestling?
	Have you ever watched the UFC?
	A couple of times, yeah.
	Well, you're up in Pahrump, right?
	That's right.
	If you ever want to come down, there's a big event that's going on September 4th.
	I would love to have you come down and introduce you to the world of the UFC.
	And if you saw it live, you would not for a second think that there's anything fake going on.
	Well, you know what some of the rep of regular wrestling was, I mean, so... Well, of course.
	Regular wrestling is entertainment.
	It's a choreographed entertainment show.
	No different than a play, and a lot of people love it.
	It's not my cup of tea, but a lot of people really enjoy it because it's fun, it's crazy, and it's wild.
	The UFC is very different.
	It's a much more primal experience, and it is absolutely 100% non-scripted and real.
	So, kind of like Fear Factor.
	Fear Factor was scripted in the sense of we knew what the stunts would be, but as far as the reactions, yes, exactly.
	All right, staying, or extending from DMT, I understand that you have been, this really interests me, Joe, you experiment with sensory deprivation chambers, true?
	Yes, I have one in my house.
	I have one in my basement, and I have been a big fan of them.
	I first got one in 2002, I got my first one, and I'd heard about him years before from, really, originally from that Altered States movie.
	Right.
	That was where I was first introduced to him, and then I got into John Lilly's books, I read some of his stuff on them, then I realized that that Altered States movie was actually based, a lot of it was based on him.
	The crazy, if you don't know who Lilly is, John Lilly was the guy who invented the sensory deprivation tank, And he was a pioneer in interspecies communication.
	He would do all these experiments on dolphins and trying to communicate with dolphins.
	And one of the things he used to do is he used to take LSD and set up a sensory deprivation tank near dolphins and try to communicate with them.
	Wow!
	Yeah, he was out there.
	Describe to me the sensory tank experience.
	Is it warm water?
	Yes.
	The water is the same temperature as the surface of your skin, which is about 93.5 degrees.
	In my tank, I have a tank from the Float Lab in Venice.
	There's a guy named Crash who runs the Float Lab.
	When the tanks were very unpopular, when no one knew about them, right now their experience is tremendous renaissance.
	And I'm very happy that I'm a part of that.
	And Crash is a part of that, too, because he's the guy who really innovated and took tanks to this incredible level of sophistication that they have now.
	And he's the one who designed the one that I have in my basement.
	And it has 1,000 pounds of Epsom salts in this water.
	And the water is about a foot deep.
	and you just get in the tank and because there's so much salt, you float.
	And because the water's the same temperature as your skin, once you sit in it for a minute and you relax and stop
	moving, you can't really differentiate between where the water is
	and where the air is.
	It all feels like one thing. It feels like you're flying.
	And you have this weird experience, this weird sensation of flying through space.
	Have you not done it?
	No, I haven't done it.
	Ever since Altered States, I've wanted to try it.
	Wanted to try it.
	Oh, please.
	Please come to California as my guest.
	I'll bring you to the float lab.
	We'll introduce you to Crash, because he's a trip in of himself.
	and uh... do you and what he's trying to come a day and it's very relaxing to
	it's very therapeutic for your muscles it's great for your body because it
	gives you the feeling of weightlessness and it relieves all the tension in your
	muscles and it's also a great way for your body to absorb magnesium because
	the epsom salts contain magnesium in it it's absorbed through the skin so it's actually really good
	for you as well as being relaxing and
	in certain situations you can experience a pretty intense psychedelic
	Ah, that's what I was going to ask.
	So, altered states and maybe even more altered states?
	Yeah, well, some people like to... I personally am a big fan of consuming cannabis and then getting in there, especially eating it.
	But some people like to do it with all kinds of different stuff.
	Mushrooms.
	Lily was a big fan of ketamine.
	He used to take ketamine and then climb into the tank.
	That's another hard hit, boy.
	Yeah, that's a little beyond my reach.
	That's a spooky one.
	But the idea being is that when the mind has no internal or it was no external information coming at it. It creates. Yes, it creates. And
	it also, because it's no longer processing all the data like your balance and social
	cues and looking at people and just touching and feeling things and gauging
	your distance, because you can't see anything, you can't hear anything, you don't
	feel anything, your body's free and your mind has an incredible amount of
	resources that it usually doesn't have.
	The way I always describe it to people is that if you and I were having a conversation, but next to us there was a guy working a jackhammer, it would be very hard to keep the conversation, very hard to focus.
	Absolutely, sure.
	But life is kind of a jackhammer.
	Life is constantly giving you information, just from the sensation of the ground under your feet, the sensation of the clothes on your body.
	Especially if you're in the business we are, it's constant.
	It is constant, and it's hard to just let it all go.
	And for me personally, the way my body and mind work, I find the tank to be almost irreplaceable.
	It's one of the most important things that I've ever experienced as far as just being able to unwind and think about stuff and have a perspective.
	And I've come to so many conclusions while I've been in there, made so many decisions that I might not have made while I was in there, and it just sort of guides me in a weird way.
	So, good decisions.
	Oh yeah.
	I don't think I've ever made a bad decision in the tank.
	As weird as that sounds.
	I've made a lot of them in the shower.
	Yeah, me too.
	Like singing.
	Alright, a couple of calls.
	Skype, you're on with Joe Rogan.
	Hi.
	Hi, how are you?
	Just fine.
	Go ahead.
	I wanted to say, I don't know if Joe remembers me, I was actually a contestant on Fear Factor.
	Whoa!
	I believe it was season two.
	What season were you on, do you know?
	Uh, season two.
	Season two, do you remember what you had to do?
	Of course you probably do.
	Oh, yeah, I had to... I believe it was an elk's penis.
	Oh, okay, so we were in the park?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that was, um, Griffith Park, is that what it was?
	Yeah, exactly.
	Yeah, okay, what's your name, man?
	Oh, my name's Dwight.
	Okay, Dwight, what's going on, dude?
	Oh, not a lot, man.
	I catch you all the time when you're on UFC, and I especially loved when you were on Chappelle Show, and you did the parody of Fear Factor.
	That's too bad.
	That's all right.
	I took care of it.
	I have a button for that.
	Kansas... I couldn't remember his name.
	I was like, hmm, that's... Yeah, strange.
	I remember he's not that good, but... Yeah.
	Kansas City, you're on with Joe.
	Hi.
	Hello.
	Wait, is that me?
	Yes, you.
	Oh hey, I just wanted to ask Jon, I know this is not a sports show, but he was so excited when Ralphie won.
	What was that like to be there when that happened?
	Oh, when Ronda Rousey won in Brazil a couple weeks ago, it was incredible.
	I felt like it was a historical event, as much as it was a fight.
	And, you know, a lot of people say, well, you know, it was a mismatch and the girl wasn't as good as she was.
	And I think that's all very fair and true.
	But I think that what she represents right now is something wholly unique.
	This incredibly dominant female combat sports athlete.
	And I just think what she's been able to accomplish in just a short amount of time as far as raising the public's perception, I felt like I was there for history.
	I felt like, I think like there's guys that tell their kids, hey, I was there when Muhammad Ali beat Sonny Liston.
	And it kind of felt like that to me, like that kind of thing.
	Like you were there when something historical happened.
	Oh, it was so incredible, yeah.
	I wonder what you're going to do next.
	She's gonna keep fighting, I'm sure, for a little while, but I imagine with all the lucrative movie offers that she's getting, when she feels like she's accomplished enough, she'll move on and just do whatever she wants to do.
	Joe, have you seen a new TV show, actually not so new, three, four seasons now, Naked and Afraid?
	Yes.
	Yeah, I have seen it.
	That thing is wild.
	I wonder how far so-called reality TV is gonna go.
	I mean, you take somebody completely naked, a man and woman, throw them in the middle of Borneo, and something bad's gonna happen.
	Well, it's certainly dangerous.
	I don't know how much they monitor them.
	It's hard when it's naked and afraid.
	It doesn't mean naked, afraid, and alone.
	So I don't know how many people are there watching them while this goes on and what kind of a medical crew they have standing by.
	I'm not sure.
	Well, they do.
	They've got a producer and then they've got a little medical crew, but yeah, dangerous.
	Oh, definitely.
	But bizarre, too.
	You know, like, why are we doing this?
	Like, why are we exposing people to this?
	Like, what is it about these silly shows that makes us so excited?
	And also, it's a great wake-up call for people when you realize how vulnerable you actually are out alone in the woods, and how difficult it is to survive.
	Yes, with no shoes.
	I mean, imagine, no shoes, and you're walking on these... Oh, God, it's awful.
	Yeah, it's pretty crazy.
	So, you know, I mean, how much further can reality TV go?
	It's a good question.
	It's a good question.
	I mean, when we were on Fear Fact, I used to joke around and say we're about three seasons away from The Running Man.
	But we might have already passed that with something like Naked and Afraid.
	I mean, we might someday see something, perhaps like from another country, where, you know, we're seeing some sort of Deadliest Game sort of a thing, where people are hunting people.
	That's entirely possible.
	Well, they made movies about it.
	Yeah, I mean they have these team fighting sports in Russia now, where they'll have like five people fight five people in a cage, and they're two on one, and it's crazy, it's horrible to watch.
	But what they're doing is they're taking things like people tend to do to the most extreme place.
	Sure.
	West Virginia, you're on with Joe, hi.
	I thought that, uh, the expression Joe used about, uh, DMT was really interesting.
	Especially, uh... What expression?
	Uh, the, uh, how it finds you.
	Oh!
	Because, uh, I was following the dead in, uh, 2003.
	And, uh, I was a part of that scene, going coast to coast.
	And, uh, some guy offered me something that looked like sesame seeds, but they were, like, dark and amber... amberish color, uh...
	It was quite an experience.
	That's one thing you never do, is give somebody a drug that they're uninformed about.
	That's about the worst thing.
	I can't even imagine receiving... The whole tour, there was talk about DMT going around, that somebody was divvying it out allegedly.
	I'm sorry, isn't this after Jerry Garcia was dead?
	Didn't he die in like the 90s?
	Yeah, but... They kept touring?
	Yes, because if you think about it, Joe, if you go back to discography, the other two guys sung a lot too, just as much as Jerry, but the real point I wanted to make tonight, to really open your mind up a little bit more, you know, talking about the UFO community and stuff like that, is, you know, I believe that mind-altering substances is a gateway.
	You know, first off, to only be able to see interdimensional beings and extraterrestrials, but to communicate.
	But those substances are strong tools used in mind control and ritual abuse.
	And I'll take my comments off there.
	Thank you guys.
	We'll be talking together.
	All right.
	Thank you very much.
	So, Joe, what do you think?
	Well, I think there's definitely been some experiments using psychedelic substances for mind control.
	That's a fact.
	There's a great documentary called The Net that is actually about the Unabomber, Ted Kaczynski, and Ted Kaczynski being a part of the Harvard LSD studies.
	And there was a lot of studies that were done by the military that are well documented, where they were experimenting with LSD on soldiers, trying to see what the effects were, how they could Joe, I have a UFC question for you, if you could answer that.
	and get them to do things they wanted them to do.
	You know, the whole idea about Manchurian candidates, those things, those are all real experiments for sure.
	They definitely have tried to do that before.
	Okay, real quickly.
	Which is whether or not they've been successful.
	Right, Don, real quickly, you're on with Joe, hi.
	Hey, how's it going?
	Nice to see you back, Art.
	Thank you.
	Glad to be here.
	Joe, I have a UFC question for you, if you could answer that.
	Sure.
	A guy asked earlier about Ronda Rousey.
	Ronda Rousey.
	You said it was really special being there seeing her do that.
	Out of all the other fighters and fights you've seen, which ones felt the most supernatural,
	like you were seeing something special?
	Other than her, what are the top guys that you felt like you were seeing something epic?
	I never got to see Fedor fight in his prime.
	I would have loved to see that, but I did get to see Anderson fight in his prime.
	Anderson Silva, who I think is the greatest of all time.
	I think he moved like a guy in a video game.
	He would do things that didn't seem real, like things that were from a movie.
	In his prime, when he was at the top, he was just spectacular.
	He would have what Lorenzo Bertito, one of the owners of the UFC, always refers to as the Holy S Moment, like that every great UFC has at least one Holy S Moment.
	Right.
	Really defined that to me.
	He was just so incredible when he was at his best.
	Alright, not a lot of time.
	Pismo Beach, you're on with Joe.
	Hi.
	Oh my god, am I on the air?
	You are.
	With my two heroes, I can't believe it.
	Okay.
	I have, I have two questions for you.
	One of them is serious and one of them is silly.
	Uh, the silly one is what kind of motorcycles do you guys ride?
	The real question that I'm calling about, and I understand Joe, if you don't want to talk about it, but I'm still going to ask, excuse me.
	Uh, news radio was like genius.
	It was the best thing that ever happened to TV and I still love it.
	And, um, When Phil died, my question is, was there any animosity on the set towards Andy Dick?
	I just said Dick on the radio.
	It's his name.
	Yeah.
	But was there any of that?
	Because I know the rumors.
	I'm sure you do better than any of us do.
	That's my question.
	You mean the rumors that he got Phil's wife the drugs and that's what led her to do it?
	I don't blame anybody for that other than his wife.
	And even his own wife was on a cocktail of SSRIs and cocaine and she was probably psychotic at the time.
	It was a terrible, terrible event.
	To your first question, I don't ride motorcycles.
	I don't either.
	I used to.
	I learned about gravel and motorcycles.
	That cured me.
	I came close.
	I took the motorcycle safety courses.
	I was thinking about buying one, and then two of my friends who had bikes, one got hit by a car and one fell on his bike and hurt themselves real bad, and I was like, yeah, I think I'm going to sit this one out.
	Yeah, I don't blame you a bit.
	So what does the future hold for you?
	More what I'm doing.
	I really enjoy doing the podcast.
	I really enjoy doing stand-up comedy.
	I really enjoy working for the UFC.
	I'm very fortunate that I Have these things that I enjoy very much as far as like, you know, my career.
	I've just been real lucky to be able to do a lot of fun stuff.
	And it's led me to be able to talk to you, which is one of the highlights.
	That's exactly how I feel about what we do.
	It's fun.
	I love it.
	Joe Rogan, man, thank you.
	And you know what?
	I may take you up on that offer about the tank.
	Please do, the Tank and the UFC, anytime you want, it's an open invitation.
	You got it.
	Alright, coming up now, David Sirita, believe it or not, I hate this stuff, I really hate reading this, began his career by being interviewed by me.
	For the first time in the year 2000, he was a regular guest on the show and has been since seen on Ancient Aliens History Channel, TLC, Fox News, CNN, Toast for the past 15 years.
	David Serita did his first radio show appearance in the year 2000 with me on the NASA UFO phenomenon.
	The NASA STF-75 UFO's pulse and the frequency use of pulsing by ETs.
	After seeing a UFO in 1968 with dozens of other witnesses in Berkeley, David's first aspiration in life was to become an astronaut or to learn how to make ET contact.
	Interesting choice, but kind of related, really, I guess.
	He studied world religions, meditation, yoga, Nuclear fusion for nearly a decade with world-class physicists.
	Physicists.
	He brings you his personal experience with ET contact and human transformation as well as scientific understanding.
	Hello there.
	Again, David did his first radio show appearance in 2000 with me.
	So it's interesting now to have him back.
	David, welcome back to the program.
	You are there somewhere.
	Hello?
	There you are.
	It was probably 1999 or 2000.
	I can't remember.
	Well, a long time ago anyway.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	This is going to be an interesting evening.
	You have sent me some audio files, which I am prepared, by the way, to play when we get to that point.
	You're claiming, David, that you have made E.T.
	contact, right?
	I am claiming that, yeah.
	I mean, after an entire life of trying to figure this out, you know, going back to my UFO sighting in Berkeley in 1968, which was followed by contact with Palladian beings in my sleep, at a time when there was no such thing as ufology and there was no such thing as, you know, the Art Bell Show, so I didn't know where to go with it at the time.
	But it's taken me my whole life, I'm 54 this week, to figure it out.
	Yeah, that's true.
	Before this kind of thing really began, there was nowhere to go, except maybe a psychiatrist, my recommendation, or something like that.
	Yeah, my dad was getting his, you know, we're Canadians who moved to Berkeley in 1964, and my dad, Lynn Sarita, was getting his PhD in psychology there.
	And when I told him and my mom that I saw the Flying Saucer, I mean, they didn't even say anything.
	They really didn't know what to make of it.
	But this was a daytime thing, walking home from elementary school in the East Bay near the Berkeley campus.
	You know, we were living in the University Village, and everybody saw this thing.
	I mean, it looked like one of the Meyercraft, but this is 1967 or 68, so it's before he took all those photos.
	And in the following days, beings identified the Pleiades star system not using the name Pleiades.
	They were very tall and kind and they paralyzed me in the very, you know, famous classic case of sleep paralysis and started showing me how their craft worked.
	And, you know, right at that pivotal time in 1967-68, my mom was divorcing my dad because... You know, I was going to go back to you telling your parents.
	I mean, that's really something to do.
	Mom, Dad, I'm in contact with others.
	And then I suppose once you were out of earshot, they were asking each other, did you drop them?
	No, honey, did you drop them?
	Wondering about you, how did they take it?
	Well, actually, my mom did drop me.
	She rolled me off the dining room table.
	She finally told me only a few years ago.
	Was this, well, obviously far after you told them that?
	Yeah, oh yeah.
	I mean, it's...
	No, they dropped me before when I was only a few, you know, weeks old when my mom was changing the diapers.
	She didn't think babies at that age would roll over.
	I rolled over and hit the floor and she raced me to the hospital.
	But you know, this was something everybody saw.
	I mean, there was pandemonium on the street.
	You know, it wasn't the Goodyear blimp.
	This thing was a flying saucer.
	The only thing I could relate it to was the Star Trek crew and the Enterprise and no markings, not a single rivet.
	This thing was down close so that everyone could see it.
	And remarkably, many years later, I was lecturing at a UFO convention for Bob Brown in Nevada, actually one of the last conferences he ever did.
	I gave the very last lecture under Bob Brown in his entire career there.
	And this man approaches me in the elevator and he said, I work at the Space Lab at the Lawrence Berkeley National Lab right up on the hill.
	And I said, oh yeah, I've been there.
	I actually had lunch with Glenn Seaborg there, who was chairman of the Atomic Energy Commission under Kennedy, Johnson, and Nixon, and the scientist who discovered the explosive type of plutonium, won the Nobel Prize.
	And I said, I even told Seaborg, Glenn Seaborg, that I saw the UFO, and this lab would have had a good view of it.
	Well, this gentleman told me, I work at the lab, I'm a scientist at the space lab, and in 1972, all of us saw a flying saucer come right up to the window.
	And that would have been a great, many very, very prominent scientists working up at that web who saw it.
	And how many of them wanted to talk about it?
	Not one.
	And Seaborg didn't look at me crazy that day when I said I saw the saucer.
	He said his assistant, Albert Gyorso, had 37 levels above Top Secret, he told me Seaborg had.
	And Seaborg said, there's nobody working on anything like that.
	In our government.
	So he said, I don't know what it was.
	Was it close encounters of the third kind?
	I think it was, uh, where they were showing the air traffic controller and, uh, the plane saw a UFO just right by it.
	Uh, the controller said, uh, you want to report this?
	No, I don't want to report one of those.
	Well, that's my favorite movie of all time, so I know that scene so well.
	Exactly.
	So what do you do in 1968?
	You know, there's no UFO conventions that I knew of.
	I mean, I'm a kid and they're appearing to me over and over and, you know, I'm starting to play kick the can and hide and go seek with my friends.
	We moved to the San Francisco side of the bay.
	We were living on the Berkeley side at that time.
	And I'm counting to a hundred looking at the Poieties and remembering the star system, remembering them, and replaying the memory of the Flying Saucer in my head over and over and over again.
	And I would never even blink the rest of my life until in 1972-ish, 73, the Meyer story was on the news in Canada.
	We moved back to Canada to live with my real father because my mom divorced again.
	And then I said, oh my God, that's what I saw.
	So that was the beginning of being able to place the experience.
	But to not make contact with them again my entire life didn't make any sense.
	Why would they, you know, single me out in the crowd?
	And I don't know how many other kids or people... They always single people out.
	No question about it.
	Listen, let me back up a little bit.
	You're going to talk a lot about quantum of physics, I believe, tonight, in the sense that you believe that quantum communication is going to be possible.
	Is that correct?
	Electrically possible, yeah.
	Electrically, okay.
	I still don't have a grasp of quantum physics.
	I'm not sure anybody really does, but there's this thing where It's called Entanglement.
	You know about that, right?
	Yeah, sure.
	Okay, nobody can really explain it, and I don't expect you to, but if you have any thoughts on it, I'd love to hear them, because I'm struggling with it.
	Okay, so going back to the time of Einstein and many of his co-researchers, and Einstein was not an educated physicist.
	He was self-taught, self-educated, and became a Nobel Prize winner.
	And all his peers who are in my appearance in my mind are much more brilliant than he is,
	the way they appear in my mind, I mean.
	And Niels Bohr, Heisenberg, and these guys are saying that there's something going on
	when researchers are getting near the experiments.
	Their consciousness seems to be affecting the behavior of the particles
	when you're looking at these explosions of subatomic particles in bubble chambers
	and cloud chambers, which is how they used to photograph subatomic particle explosions.
	So that was the beginning of the idea that consciousness was part of the whole thing, the whole universe.
	And Einstein really agreed that there was something going on and so did So did Max Planck and so did Niels Bohr.
	All of them did.
	All of them knew.
	And then there was this thing that Einstein called spooky action at a distance, was that, you know, normally communication via radio or the internet like we're using now, everything travels through electromagnetism at the speed of light, which is very slow.
	at 186,282 miles per second.
	So Einstein noticed there was this function in the atom and smaller. Quantum mechanics is generally
	looking at functions in the atom and smaller and nowadays it seems to
	include the study of consciousness, but consciousness is not
	exclusive.
	Well, I can see how consciousness will get involved in this, maybe.
	But, you know, the whole idea that it's so simple and so impossible, this entanglement business, and that is where one flips and the other flops.
	Right.
	And it'll do it reliably.
	If you do a flip here, it'll flop there.
	And you can separate these by Thousands of miles, five feet, or you could take one to the moon and they would be flipping and flopping in unison in apparent, I say apparent, communication with each other at much greater than speed of light, in fact immeasurably fast.
	And we have no clue how that's happening.
	There has to be a communication.
	There has to be a communication going on.
	Or how can one flip and the other know to flop?
	Exactly.
	That's exactly it.
	It's called action at a distance.
	And it's faster than light.
	It's instantaneous.
	But it's not relying on the electromagnetic spectrum or radio waves to communicate.
	Right.
	I'm with you there.
	Yeah, so they don't have a wave, so because they can't see the wave, or of course we don't know how to measure wavelengths even at the Planck length or smaller, the smallest units ever measured, so we don't know if it's a wave or not actually, but we know it's there and scientists know it's there and it's been notable Since the time of Einstein, Niels Bohr and Planck and all the great masters.
	So why aren't we using it?
	And we are!
	I'm going to be talking about tonight how I've been able to use it in talking to very distant star systems.
	Here's the deal.
	If we are ever going to get to another star system, We're going to have to figure out how this communication works and either use it to communicate or use it in some way to travel because, oh I don't know, this recent Earth 2 they found.
	It's a thousand light years away!
	A thousand light years!
	So, we're not getting... Not very far, actually.
	Well... Incredibly close.
	See, this is where it gets really exciting for me.
	Because, you know, you're a radio man.
	You know how radio works.
	I know how long it would take for radio to get there at current speeds.
	Yeah, but you know, I'll tell you how the quantum function works and how we can use it and why this Russian billionaire Yuri is wasting, Yuri Milner is wasting his money looking at radio waves.
	Alright, wait, hold on, hold on.
	We have to do a break, hold on.
	We have to do a break.
	You're going exactly where I want you to go.
	And you know, just a few nights ago, not very many nights ago, we had Seth Shostak here.
	Seth is, of course, The head of SETI, and he would be, I'm sure, distressed to hear what David is about to say, as would the Russian billionaire, I guess.
	He's given a lot of money so they can keep searching for radio signals from elsewhere, right?
	And actually, you'd think it's a big waste of money, or rubles, whatever.
	Rubles, money, time, and I think even Seth knows it, that they're just, you know, so bored over there, probably far more bored than the beginning of the movie Contact, you know, kind of.
	Actually, that book, the book Contact is phenomenal.
	I don't blame them for looking.
	I mean, look, I think I would be looking too.
	Now, I think I would be getting to the point Where I'd be almost ready to say we've looked at just about everything, frankly, and there's nothing to be heard.
	Well, exactly.
	There's nothing to be heard, and there's never been anything to be heard in the radio bands.
	Why I think it's a waste of money, and because we know this quantum function is faster than light.
	We do, but we don't know how to use it.
	We do, we do, and that's what I'm going to talk about.
	There's a biophysicist named Fritz Albert Poppe in Germany who proved That living photons, living, you know, particles of light that come off living things, plants mainly, and humans and mammals, marine mammals, dolphins, all of them, it travels faster than the speed of light.
	So there's something about a living light, you know, auric field that can actually be measured by a good physicist to travel faster than light.
	But how do you tell it Wait a minute, how do you know, I know what an aura is, or an auric field, but how has anybody proven that it travels faster than light?
	Well, Fritz Albert Popp took actual measurements using atomic clocks with plants and measuring the speed of the emissions which were in the visible band of light as well as the invisible.
	Now, just that point alone, We're not looking at radio waves today, not even in the gigahertz spectrum, that are even close to the color red.
	So when Fritz Albert Popp is saying that visible light photons coming off of plants and humans are able to go faster than the speed of light, We're not able to do that yet.
	We don't look at, like, you know, AM radio is amplitude modulated, FM is frequency modulated, so you frequency modulate data, information, voices, pictures, and everything on a radio wave, and it travels at the speed of light, kind of like passengers on a train.
	And in the AM band, you amplitude modulate the process of getting the data on the band.
	But those bandwidths are still nowhere near those colors.
	So we're nowhere near transmitting and looking at data inside of actual visible light.
	Because visible light is way higher frequency than elaborating it.
	I believe one of the goals of SETI was to begin looking at the light spectrum, wasn't it?
	Yeah, I mean, but see, that's where you have to get, you need a sensor and you need transistors to amplify the signal up to the point that you can actually look at it.
	And transistors are getting so, so small now, like a single Intel computer chip has billions of tiny quartz crystal transistors floating on it and it's all made You know, literally, it's made under microscopes.
	I mean, you can't see these transistors anymore.
	I remember the first transistor radios when they came out and they replaced the tubes.
	And you, because they found crystals, have tons of, you know, unbound electrons floating on their surfaces.
	They're very powerful, crystals are.
	And therefore, they could use them to amplify signals.
	And those, those transistors got smaller and smaller and smaller and smaller and smaller.
	But one of the things I did is I looked at the Great Pyramid as a giant crystal oscillator, and I did a huge amount of math on it.
	It took me a year to calculate all the frequencies the pyramid would generate, and that's when I became convinced.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	The pyramid would generate or does generate?
	It would when it was operating because you see the way a crystal oscillator works is see there's two things in electronics that make radio possible.
	You know Tesla is the true father of radios.
	Sir Oliver Lodge and Stone developed the tuning circuits for radio but Tesla you know broadcast radio I think it was 1893 Chicago World's Fair and then Marconi as a lab assistant allegedly steals it from him and then it just goes on from there so radio uses
	It uses a crystal oscillator to generate a frequency.
	Right.
	And the way you cut crystal and its size, and you excite electrons in it within a certain amount of voltage and current, you generate different frequencies in the crystal.
	So the crystal is responsible for the frequency.
	So whenever you have two oscillators at the same frequency, you have communication.
	So if everybody's listening to you on an FM band, a frequency modulated band, and they all tune their quartz oscillators via their technology to that frequency, we're all together all hearing our bell.
	Now, That's only part of radio.
	The other part of radio was we used to use tubes to amplify the signal because it's so weak with these crystal oscillators so that you could actually hear something.
	Well, transistors perform the same function with less noise.
	Right.
	So then we moved on to transistors and they're the same.
	They're made out of quartz.
	You know, they used to make them out of germanium crystal and quartz.
	And so the crystals are doing the work.
	And they're doing the tuning and the amplification part of the job, but they don't have the ability to go faster than light.
	And this is where it's starting to get really interesting, because what I did, it was before 2010, on my birthday, which is this Friday, years ago, I decided to Actually calculate the frequencies of the Pleiadian star systems, and I knew how to do it because NASA uses this system called parallax to determine the radius of the star.
	They know the radius of five Pleiadian stars 440 light years away.
	So you're talking about this new exoplanet that's 100,000 light years away.
	So not, I mean, sorry, no, 1,000 light years.
	1,000 light years, yes.
	So the Pleiades are 440-ish, you know, there's different depths of stars.
	But if you know the radius, you can calculate the frequency really easily.
	So I calculated the frequencies of five Pleiadian suns, because NASA knows the radius of five of them.
	And I immediately understood that, first of all, that Tesla actually measured the frequency of the Earth, and Schumann confirmed it, and that every planet and every star has its own frequency, and they're all different, because they're all different wavelengths, they're all different sizes.
	Yeah, that makes sense.
	So you take the circumference of the Earth, the speed of light divided by that.
	It doesn't matter whether you do it in metric or feet and inches.
	If your resolution is good, you get the same frequency.
	So I did that for Pleiades, and then I had to do this mathematical scaling technique to scale up the sides of the sphere on the stars.
	And I generated the frequencies of the Poides, and what does radio tell us?
	It tells us that any two frequencies generated that are the same regardless of their distance, you have communication, at least at the speed of light, and that would be too slow with Poides.
	But my body's biophotons send signals faster than light, according to quantum mechanics, and according to Einstein, and according to... Okay, I am not familiar with anybody who has Measured, and if you can point me in the direction, I'd be glad to read about it, but our auras, they do exist, they can be measured, but I don't think we know the speed of the emission from them.
	Yeah, that's Fritz Albert Popp, German physicist, very good physicist, classically trained.
	He's the one who did it.
	He's the first one who did it.
	How in the world, you said using an atomic clock?
	Sure, you use atomic clocks to measure the speed of a transmission of a signal to a receiver, and that he did over and over again.
	So, what he's saying is very remarkable, because Einstein's saying, we don't know what the function in quantum mechanics is, that this action at a distance, that if you flip this particle over and it was entangled with another one, regardless of their distance, They respond instantaneously.
	And then they did experiments with mothers and baby rabbits where they connect their nervous system to electrodes and they read it on an EEG.
	If you pinprick the baby, the mother responds instantly, not at the speed of light, instantly through this function.
	I might buy that.
	And that somehow brings us to the consciousness thing, I think.
	It does, and that's where, now Google this everybody, Google DNA transistors, and you're going to see, this happened years ago, the military was developing transistors that interfaced with living tissue.
	Because of exactly what I'm talking about.
	Living tissue has the ability to do this.
	And you're going to start to see why Colonel Philip Corso said that the Roswell ETs were half living, half technology.
	Half, literally, solid state technology.
	I've had a lot of people on recently that have sort of debunked Corso.
	You're obviously not one of them.
	Well, I'm really deep into Roswell.
	I mean, I have a lot of data from my friend Boyd Bushman at Lockheed who passed away.
	You could really go into this.
	Well, we could.
	Hold on.
	We're out of break.
	For Dark Matter News, I'm Leo Ashcroft.
	Is our universe a fake?
	An elaborate computer simulation?
	Philosopher Nick Bostrom, director of the Future of Humanity Institute of Oxford University, describes a fake universe as a richly detailed software simulation of people, including their historical predecessors.
	He says this fake universe was created by a very technologically advanced civilization.
	David Brin, sci-fi writer and space scientist, relates the Chinese parable of an emperor dreaming that he was a butterfly, dreaming that he was an emperor.
	In contemporary versions, Brin said it may be the year 2050, and people are living in a computer simulation of what life was like in the early 21st century.
	Or it may be billions of years from now, and people are in the simulation of what primitive plants and people were once like.
	David said he began bemused.
	The notion that humanity might be living in an artificial reality, a simulated universe, seemed sophomoric, at best science fiction.
	But speaking with scientists and philosophers on Closer to the Truth, he says he realizes that the notion that everything humans see and know is a gigantic computer game of sorts.
	The creation of super smart hackers existing somewhere else is not a joke.
	Exploring a whole world simulation, he says he discovered, is a deep probe of reality.
	Check out the video from Closer to the Truth at darkmatternews.com Well, we might be a little closer to interplanetary travel after scientists have recently confirmed that an electromagnetic propulsion drive, which is fast enough to get to the moon in four hours, actually works.
	The EM drive was developed by the British inventor Roger Shawyer nearly 15 years ago, but was ridiculed at the time as being scientifically impossible.
	It produces thrust by using solar power to generate multiple microwaves that move back and forth in an enclosed chamber.
	This means that until something fails or wears down, theoretically, the engine could keep running forever without the need for rocket fuel.
	The drive, which has been likened to Star Trek's impulse drive, has left scientists scratching their heads because it defies one of the fundamental concepts of physics.
	The conservation of momentum, which states that if something is propelled forward, something must be pushed in the opposite direction.
	So the forces inside the chamber should cancel each other out.
	In recent years, though, NASA has confirmed that they believe it works.
	And this week, Martin Tajmor, Professor and Chair for Space Systems at Dresden University of Technology in Germany, also showed that it does produce thrust.
	It seems like close encounters of the window seat kind are happening more frequently these days.
	Videos have been released of three different UFO sightings near commercial aircraft that have occurred over the past several months, with more undoubtedly unrecorded or unreported.
	What's causing this sudden attraction of UFOs to airplanes?
	The most recent sighting has been getting a lot of publicity since it occurred at JFK Airport at New York City while the plane was taking off.
	The video taken by an anonymous plane enthusiast shows a Virgin Atlantic plane rising in the sky on July 7th and then being overtaken by a UFO seen flying above it.
	The cigar-shaped object is too close to be another commercial aircraft, and no military jets were reported in the area.
	The next two sightings took place in England, one from June 12th over Lambourne, England, showing an airplane passing by a UFO, and the third sighting was made by a passenger inside a plane flying over Liverpool.
	There's been no definitive identifications of any of these UFOs seen accompanying or passing the planes.
	Commercial and military pilots admit they see a lot of UFOs, but sightings by passengers and ground witnesses are less frequent.
	So what do you think these objects are?
	Why are they hanging around airplanes?
	Check out the photos and videos at darkmatternews.com and let us know your opinion.
	I'm Leo Ashcraft for Dark Matter News.
	Back now to David Serita, and I've got some things I've got to sort of get straight in my head, David, and here they are.
	I think we're mixing things up a little bit.
	A quartz, for example, indeed, if you pass an excitation through it, a current, electricity, depending on how it's cut, it will produce a certain frequency, and that is a crystal, right?
	But transistors are, you know I just looked up, oh there he is, there he is, I thought we'd lost you.
	Transistors are made from various materials and they're all semiconductors.
	I'm not really aware, and various types of materials for semiconductors, David, but I'm not aware that crystal is used in transistors.
	No, it is.
	Crystal is a semiconductor.
	And they, like the NPN transistors, transistors get really complicated, but they started with germanium, they went to quartz, and, you know, John Burdine, Will Bratton, and one other physicist were the true fathers of the first transistor, which is 1947, by the way, and when it was invented.
	And the way they make them now, it's smaller and smaller and smaller.
	So a semiconductor is a material, basically different types of crystal, that has electrons, unbound electrons, that are not bound to the nucleus of an atom, floating up on their surfaces, which makes them good amplifiers.
	Transistors amplify the signals, and the crystal oscillators generate frequencies.
	Well, they do that.
	All right, let's go back to Colonel Corso for a moment, because I'm getting so many mixed messages.
	I interviewed Colonel Corso before he passed, as you know.
	Yeah, I remember that.
	A series of interviews, actually.
	And he claimed that he turned over to private industry, piece by piece by piece, Technology gleaned from crashed UFOs, crashed, the Roswell crash, frankly, and that a lot of what we have today is thanks to that.
	Now, I've had a lot of criticism lately of Colonel Corso, people not believing his story.
	Where do you come down?
	Well see, you know, we live in an age where you can counter everything.
	You can say, like when Boyd Bushman's story leaked prematurely over the internet about his photos of the alien.
	You know, you really gotta go deep.
	I go really deep in my investigations.
	I mean, I've studied the transistors, semiconductors, electronics.
	I make my own super-inductive coils.
	Again, you're wandering away from the question, which is about Colonel Corso.
	Yeah, and that's my point.
	Do I believe his story?
	I read the book, and I tend to believe him, absolutely, because I've seen the evidence firsthand.
	at a level that I've never even revealed yet.
	I mean, I'm looking at photographs of an alien from Roswell given to me by Boyd Bushman,
	where the flash on the camera seems to have triggered a photoelectric response that sent
	out a wave that was captured in the photography.
	And this is not a digital camera that was used.
	This was a film camera.
	And the wave coming out of the brain on this thing, this thing is electronic.
	I mean, this thing is...
	Are you telling me you've got a picture of an alien creature that is not public?
	Bye.
	This particular picture is not public.
	No, I never went public with it.
	Would you?
	For the reason, Art, that people don't believe because they don't look at data deep enough.
	They only look at the surface.
	And when you look at the surface in an investigation, it's too easy for people to disbelieve because they won't look at everything properly.
	All right.
	And this particular photo disturbs me because, you know, I was a darkroom master photographer.
	I looked at film, real film, for 20 years before everything went digital.
	Okay, do you think it's legit?
	I've never seen anything like this.
	I'm looking at a photograph with a true photoelectric response from the alleged alien or alien doll, or was it, like Corso said, an AI?
	Gee, David, why don't you share this photograph with I will.
	I will.
	And I'm making a movie about it, but I want to do it piece by piece, part by part, because this thing really got messed up.
	This Boyd Bushman story really got messed up.
	But I believe, exactly like he said, they are part AI.
	And they, just like we are now doing, we're now making transistors that interface with living DNA for a very good reason, because of the properties of DNA.
	In fact, the very first successful transistor that John Bardeen and Will Breton invented was immersed in water.
	It worked in water, but when they took it out of the water, it didn't work.
	Wait, David, I'm sorry to stop you again, but you said we're making transistors that interface with human DNA.
	I didn't say human DNA, I said DNA.
	Okay, DNA.
	DNA is in the middle of every cell.
	You have the middle of the cell, you have the mitochondria, the power plant of the cell, driving the DNA and the RNA, which builds the protein.
	So your DNA... Now, this was a study done by the discoverer of the AIDS virus.
	Luc Montagnier won the Nobel Prize for discovering the AIDS virus, and he does tests on DNA by inducting it With the frequency of Earth, inadvertently 7 Hertz, it was lower than the frequency of Earth, so long-wave radio, and the DNA responded to an ultra-low frequency like that.
	Really?
	And that was shocking!
	Actually, that's not shocking.
	I mean, why would that be shocking?
	We are creatures of the Earth.
	We come from the Earth.
	Depending on what you believe, God did it all in however many days, or We have slowly emerged from the muck of the earth.
	So we are part of the earth, are we not?
	Exactly.
	So I'm not surprised.
	Our DNA would read that frequency, and it shocked the researchers for only one reason, is the wavelength of DNA is so small as a coil, if you look at it as an inductor coil, and we can I can explain inductance really easily.
	Inductance is like, and I've done this in my house, so you take one coil, one like copper coil, wind up some wire around a cylinder and connect it to a signal generator.
	Generate a frequency and set it in front of your computer speakers and you'll hear a tone.
	I can explain it even easier.
	The new Androids use induction to charge.
	In other words, you take your Android phone, you put it on a little You just lay it on this thing, and it charges magically.
	That's induction.
	Yeah, that's induction.
	Induction is transferring energy from one coil to another, and one of them doesn't have any power in it.
	That's right.
	But this is even a different function of induction.
	I get two coils, right?
	Same idea.
	I got one in front of my speakers, and I got a signal going through it.
	My speakers, you can hear the buzzing in the speaker.
	I go somewhere else in the house, and I plug another coil into another signal generator, and when I match the frequency at a distance, I can hear the second coil in the other room through my speakers, and they're the same frequency, but they're not in phase.
	They're slightly out of phase.
	And that's because when you have any two oscillators of any kind, it doesn't even have to be quartz, that are the same frequency, you set up a line of
	communication.
	Okay. So that's where it gets really interesting when you get into the subject of induction, transferring
	energy from one coil to another, because a human DNA can be inducted by the frequency of Earth, which it makes
	sense, like you just said, right?
	Yes.
	And the frequency of Earth is where we dream.
	You know, 7.83 Hertz is fundamental, but it actually, there's a whole range of frequencies because we have a sphere.
	When you have a sphere, your wavelength at your equator is like 7.5 Hertz, a little under 7.5.
	And then by the time you're in Norway, you've got really higher frequencies in there.
	But what's amazing about the frequency of Earth and the fact that DNA will read it is phenomenal.
	Because what that means is what I did...
	This is an experiment I just did recently.
	I take the wavelength of Pluto because we were, you know, we were going to Pluto with New Horizons and I did this right in tandem when the New Horizons was going by Pluto.
	I'm lying in my bed, my daughter's asleep next to me and my wife, and I'm pulsing my body with one of my transmitters with the frequency of Pluto and suddenly I go out of body I'm at Pluto and I'm behind Pluto looking towards the Sun and Pluto has a huge atmosphere and all these beautiful colors and in five seconds later I'm back in my body and I'm like that was perfectly clear I was out in space looking at Pluto and NASA doesn't believe it could have an atmosphere how could it have an atmosphere it's an icy planet
	Well, three days later, when New Horizons went beyond Pluto, looking back at the sun, they were shocked.
	It had an atmosphere 1,500 miles deep, just as I had saw it, remote-viewing it with the frequency of Pluto.
	Okay, so you remote-viewed it.
	You weren't actually at Pluto.
	Well, it looked like I was there.
	I didn't see it in my mind.
	It's like suddenly I was jolted out of my body.
	There was this jolt, and I couldn't see my body.
	There was no astral body.
	I was looking at Pluto in all perfect clarity, like a perfect movie.
	Alright, now tell me about these frequencies that I'm staring at in front of me.
	What you're staring at is quite amazing.
	Using this system called Parallax, NASA knows the radius of five Pleiadian stars.
	So let's start with Pleiades.
	The biggest star in Pleiades is Alcyon and Alcyon what I've given you there are the tones where I take the wavelength of the star and at the equator you would never hear that because that's ultra, you know, very low frequency radio bands, you know, typically VLF is 3 to 30,000 Hertz and and Earth is 7.83 Hertz.
	So when and that's look at the size of Earth.
	So when you look at the size of a star And the Palladian suns are younger and bigger than our sun.
	They're very low frequencies.
	But the higher up the side of the star you go, the wavelength gets smaller and you can hear it.
	All right.
	And in fact, NASA actually recorded, using a satellite, the emissions coming from our sun and recorded the sound of our sun, which means all stars... Right, we have that also.
	Let's do one at a time.
	You're claiming That the sound I have here from Pleiades... It's based on the mathematical radius of those five suns scaled so when you play this a lot of the file is inaudible but it will transmit
	When you play it, the part that you're hearing is the higher frequency bands up near the top, near the poles of the stars.
	My question is, where did you obtain the recordings we're about to play?
	I didn't obtain the recordings.
	What I did is I got the radius on NASA's website and based on the radius, I calculated the frequencies generated Scaled the frequencies mathematically and then generated them in a frequency generator and recorded it.
	Okay.
	So I did it mathematically.
	We've got the frequency, according to you, of Pleiades, or it's Alcyon, right?
	Yeah, it starts with Alcyon.
	You're going to hear five tones, and they're all different because each one of those Pleiadian stars are different sizes.
	And how will this affect people?
	Well, what it actually does, especially if you induct the frequencies into people, is you start tuning to that star system, right?
	So your brain and your nervous system starts becoming tuned to Palladius, and that's how I made contact with Palladius.
	All right, I'm going to play this first one.
	Is that all right?
	Yeah, there'll be five tones.
	I understand.
	Okay, here we go.
	Everybody stand by and whatever happens happens, I guess I didn't like that last one so much. Yeah, that see that
	Actually, they sound, if you listen to the sound of the sun, it's pretty powerful.
	That's where we're going next.
	You say this is the sound or the frequency of our own sun, what we're about.
	Well, it's a blend.
	You see, you never get one frequency in a sphere.
	You get a huge bandwidth of frequencies, and that's why you get a scaling of frequencies.
	So NASA did this recording of our sun.
	Of our sun.
	Okay, this is from NASA, is that correct?
	Yeah, it is from NASA.
	Here you go, folks.
	We've got awfully good audio equipment, frankly.
	Awfully good.
	I wonder if that's coming through.
	People will have to tell me on the wormhole if that's actually coming through.
	Our audio gear really is good, but you know what?
	The sound of the sun does, to me, sound like the sun.
	It really does.
	If you think of the desert and a really radiating, horrid, hot day, it might... it might...
	Sound like this.
	Sweat on the brow.
	Mmm, hot.
	Yeah.
	See, what NASA did there, Art, is they, you normally wouldn't hear the wavelength, so they compressed the data so that it was a little more dense.
	But, actually, Pythagoras said in deep meditation, he actually heard the sun.
	He's one of the first to say it.
	In the Rig Veda, you know, one of these ancient Hindu manuscripts, the mantra OM that people chant is actually a resemblance of the sound of the sun itself.
	And it goes deeper and deeper in different religious philosophies that the Logos, the actual Logos, this was the original Lord's Prayer in Aramaic in Christianity.
	Jesus is saying, O thou from whom the breath of life comes who fills all realms with sound, light, and vibration.
	And he actually addresses Logos in John 1.
	And Logos actually is the sound of the sun.
	It's the sound of the cosmos.
	But for us, actually, all the planets are making sounds and frequencies, and so is the sun.
	Right.
	What's remarkable, when I measured the wavelengths of all nine planets, they match perfectly.
	With all five human brainwave states.
	And that cannot be a coincidence.
	That is really interesting, actually.
	Yes.
	It's tremendously interesting.
	And the fact that we dream at the frequency of our own planet means, do Pleiadians dream at the frequency of their planet and their sun?
	And do all beings who live all over the universe dream?
	That would be logical, certainly.
	It would make sense.
	In other words, we're all products of... We don't dream in Delta, we dream in Theta, the frequency of Earth.
	And there's a huge bandwidth there.
	It's not one frequency like a lot of people think, 7.83.
	There's bandwidth.
	You know, Jupiter and Saturn are D-Delta planets.
	Mars is Alpha, Alpha-Beta.
	Mercury is like just under 20 Hertz, where we allegedly start hearing, although I can hear much lower frequencies than that.
	And when I measure, I take NASA's radius, so here's how you do the frequency at the equator.
	You just take NASA's radius, which is exact on the nine planets, and you go times two to get the diameter of the planet, times pi to get the distance around the planet.
	Now you take the speed of light divided by that, and that's the resonant frequency of the standing wave at the equator, but because it scales You know, the distance around the Earth gets smaller as you get near the poles.
	You get this huge range of blending, pulsing frequencies.
	So that's what I did for Poeides.
	I did it for Sirius A and B. Yeah, I've got Sirius A and B here.
	Is it long?
	Do I have time?
	No, it's very short.
	Very short.
	Very short.
	All right.
	It's a sample, yeah.
	Let's do it.
	Here it comes, this would be...
	...
	Okay, so that's serious A and B, is that correct?
	And B is almost the same frequency of Earth.
	I mean, Robert Temple brought this up in the Sirius Mystery.
	It's so close to our frequency, because it's such a tiny little star.
	That in a way we're already naturally tuned to it and it makes sense because if you zoomed out in space and you look back at our Sun and you look at Ceres A and B and Alpha Centauri, we're like a little constellation.
	The distance between our stars is very similar to the distance between different Palladian Suns in that little cluster.
	So we're so close, like when you look at how each star is a different size, And that was actually breaking up a little bit.
	There's a little bit of scratching going on in there, because they're very powerful frequencies.
	But anyway, when you hear them in all their purity, with good speakers and everything, they're very, very nice tones.
	But see, what it means is that if our brainwaves all match the wavelengths of the nine planets, Right.
	Then we are we are tuned into this solar system.
	All right.
	All right.
	So I want to roll over this one more time with David and the way these tones are derived, other than the sun, which was actually measured by NASA.
	Very interesting.
	But these other tones are derived by measuring the planet itself, in other words, very much like our own Earth, measuring the size of the planet and various things, and then coming up with a tone, much as you would for Earth.
	Is that correct, David?
	You can even read this on Wikipedia that the circumference of the planet is the basis for the frequency, because the electromagnetic signal is basically oscillating around the planet.
	And it doesn't do it perfectly evenly, and it's not just at the equator, because you have a sphere, you get higher and higher frequencies as you get near your poles.
	Okay.
	So it's a whole blending of frequencies.
	Like for example, this is quite shocking, what I'll tell you now, is I'm the first one to do this.
	I took the capstone base of the Great Pyramid, 572.2 primitive inches, which is almost the same as our inch.
	There's a difference of 1.00106 inches, so it's almost identical.
	And the way you calculate the electromagnetic frequency, which is speed of light of a standing oscillating wave around a structure that has excited electrons in it, So, the pyramid is made out of three different materials.
	The radioactive granite in the core, which is quite radioactive according to Robert Temple's measurements, and then it's surrounded by the two layers of limestone, which are all semiconductors, by the way, and which means they have electrons, unbound electrons, on their surfaces.
	And the electrons get excited by the presence of fire or electricity.
	So, there's two ways to excite the electrons in the Great Pyramid to cause it to generate frequencies.
	So what's shocking is the slope angle of the Great Pyramid is 51 degrees in 51 minutes.
	So if I take the square base of the capstone of the pyramid, which is 2288.8 primitive
	inches, so 572.2 times 4, and then I change it into modern inches, and then I resolve
	the speed of light in inches, and I calculate the frequency.
	It's 5151.
	It's 5.151 megahertz square.
	That's the same number as the slope angle, which means the builder knew the speed of light, because we didn't know the speed of light even accurately until after 1972.
	So when Einstein was making a lot of his calculations, we didn't even have an accurate speed of light.
	The speed of light has to be so perfect in order for me to get the number that I got on the Great Pyramids.
	It is very interesting.
	I'll give you that.
	The builder knew the speed of light.
	5.151 MHz squared.
	So what does that frequency do?
	Why did the Egyptians make such a massive crystal oscillator and we make tiny ones?
	Because when you get that many electrons in a massive semiconductor oscillating, You can open up a vortex wormhole, I believe.
	Well, that's of reach yet, but we've got two other sounds here, right?
	What are they?
	We have Vega.
	Can you see Vega?
	Sure.
	Vega was the star in the movie Contact.
	I love the sound of Vega, I mean, on my speakers.
	It's beautiful.
	All right, let's see how they sound on everybody's speakers.
	This is going to be Vega.
	That actually is pretty cool.
	So that's Vega.
	Yeah, I could scale it even better.
	I mean, if I had supercomputers, I could get more and more bands of resolution going up the sides of the sphere, and it would be even smoother sounding than that.
	All right, I'm going to do Vega again.
	I liked it.
	I kind of liked it.
	it bigger one more time.
	You could actually hear a little static in the middle of that.
	That was interesting.
	Yeah, that's probably just a little bit of... I don't hear that when I'm playing it here, but it's going through a huge network.
	What's amazing is you're sending out the frequency of Vega through a huge network, and that frequency is hitting our whole planet right now, which is pretty amazing.
	And does that open a line of communication between us and Vega?
	And that's what I found Okay, that's what I don't get and we'll come back to that because we have one more sound, right?
	We have one more sound.
	What is the name on that one?
	Spica.
	Spica?
	Spica, yes.
	Spica is in Virgo.
	Okay, let's do that one and then we'll talk about it.
	Here it is, I think.
	That one's a little annoying. Anyway.
	Those radio astronomers, when they're listening to some of the pulsars and different sounds coming out of the stars, I mean, it's definitely enough to rattle your brain.
	When I do this, I don't listen to the sounds.
	I induct my nervous system with a coil, so I don't hear anything, because I magnetically transfer the frequency.
	All right, but here's what I don't get, David.
	Here's what I don't get.
	All right, I get how you came up with the sounds, but you seem to be inferring that if you have this sound and you inductively couple it or whatever you do to get it into your body, and then Vega or whatever you're playing at that moment is also, of course, emanating that sound, you seem to be implying that there's a communication.
	Well, see, that's how radio works.
	Whenever you have two distant frequencies that are identical from an oscillator, a crystal oscillator, you set up the communication and the transistors amplify that and then you hear it in the speakers.
	But then you have to modulate your voice or your music or your pictures onto the radio wave or the microwave.
	So that's how we do it today.
	But that's too slow.
	So what we're saying is that there's a faster component in the quantum function of the atom that sends the signal faster than light, because those stars are too far away.
	Now, you're only hearing a tiny part of the frequency of Vega.
	You're only hearing the part that your speakers can play.
	Okay, I'll buy that.
	The rest of the frequencies are on the file, and believe me, you can try this.
	You can take a signal generator and put two hertz into your speakers, and take the cover off your speakers, and you'll see the speaker cone moving around.
	Yeah, I know.
	So, a coil will transmit ultra-low frequencies, even very low frequencies.
	Right, I get all that.
	What I don't get is how those frequencies at point A and point B communicate with each other at faster than light.
	The frequency doesn't do it.
	The frequency sets up the the resonance of the two points because
	that's how radio works. Any two points that are the same frequency set up
	the communication. The bio photons or the quantum function sends it to Palladius or Vega
	because that's the universe doesn't get mixed up. There's no other star
	with those exact frequencies
	and because they're all different.
	This is how the universe created tuning.
	It created each star with a different sound, a different set of frequencies, and that's why you don't hear, like, remember the old days you got your cordless phone and you could hear your neighbor, you know, if they weren't too close?
	Yes, yes, yes.
	That's because they didn't have enough separation in the frequencies.
	So if there was another planet or star with the same frequency that you were tuning to, we would all be entangled together in that moment.
	But the universe didn't create planets and stars the same size.
	In fact, every star NASA measures, they're never the same.
	They're all different.
	And when I scale them, they all sound different because the numbers are all different.
	Well, if they relate to the size and mass, then yes, of course they're different.
	They're all different.
	And that sets their own unique frequency apart from every single other star out there.
	Now it's true that some can be incredibly close, like Sirius B and Earth are almost the same.
	They're not really, you know, in the world of radio you would, you know, if you were tuning down the radio band you would skip over it.
	But in the old days with, you know, very low frequency radio, you get a lot of static, but you can hear the other side of the planet.
	Like, why could you hear, you know, I remember having one of those radios in Long Beach, Vancouver Island, and I'm listening to a radio station in Japan.
	And that's because those long waves wrap around the sphere.
	Whereas the higher frequencies can't do that.
	The wavelengths are too short.
	They won't go around the planet.
	So that's where it gets really, really amazing.
	When I started doing this, I didn't know what was going to happen.
	I wasn't trying to point.
	All I did is I recorded... I took a recording of my wife, Crystal, singing this beautiful jazz song, Fly Me to the Moon, by Frank Sinatra.
	And I met my wife at the House of Blues with Dan Aykroyd, a beautiful jazz singer, and I just thought, what a great song to send out to the Pleiades.
	So I did this a different way.
	I actually encoded her song into the ratio of all the stars, and I sent it out on this transmitter in Sedona, Arizona.
	And I sent it out, and I said, well, that's probably going to be the end of that fun experiment.
	And in the middle of the night, I hear an audible voice, not my mind talking to itself, not an intuitive, you know, when you talk to yourself intuitively.
	This was a very mellow male voice saying, congratulations, we received your message.
	Now what do you want to ask us?
	And I leaped out of bed.
	I was in that half-in, half-out state.
	Sir, you want to say it was Frank Sinatra from the other side?
	It didn't sound like Frank Sinatra, and that would have been nice.
	And so what I did the next day was like, oh my God, I'm going to record all these questions.
	Like, where have you been?
	How come you appeared to me as a kid in 1968 with a flying saucer?
	Why did you make that contact and then ignore me the rest of my life?
	I'm recording these in Pro Tools with a good microphone, and I send the questions out through the Palladian Harmonics, and holy cow, it's like I opened up a paranormal Wormhole in Sedona and it lasted a long time.
	I can't confirm or deny, you know, there's certain aspects of what you say, David, that I understand.
	And then you make a leap that I don't understand.
	If I call you on the phone and I say, you know, I tell my buddy, you know, mow the lawn this way, you know, you go four times on the side and three times on the end.
	And then, you know, he does it wrong.
	And I said, well, that's what I said on the phone.
	But you didn't hear me right.
	You see, when we say that the proof is that we believe that our telephones work is we hear each other.
	So in the end of the telephone, you need a consciousness to hear the phone call.
	And if there's no consciousness, did anybody really call you?
	And did they tell you to mow the lawn this way or that way?
	And that's where it gets interesting is because most of what the Palladians have told me, and I've had many, many experiences, including my little four-year-old daughter, don't even tell her what I'm doing, and she wakes up in the middle of the night and saying, Daddy, I saw a bright light coming and I jumped up and that's why I got scared in the middle of the night.
	I've seen so much proof that this works and this is how communications works.
	The next step to prove it to the world is you need that DNA transistor to amplify this ultra weak signal that the brain is picking up you see the brain is is able to perceive in delta less than one hertz less than one wave a second right but
	My point is, the brain is sensitive enough to electrically pick up ultra-low frequencies, which are the wavelengths of big planets and stars, actually.
	But you can't tell me what the brain is picking up.
	You only know that the brain can measure a frequency that low.
	But what if you have a DNA transistor connected to that, and then I can actually determine What consciousness?
	A DNA transistor.
	A transistor that's connected to DNA, which is then connected to... See, you can connect an electrode to your brain and do an EEG, but that's just going to measure the frequency of the brain.
	Remember, radio works at different frequencies, right?
	Okay, you've got me there and you're about to lose me.
	Because what do you mean by a DNA transistor?
	Well you have to Google this.
	A DNA transistor means you would take the transistor and you would connect it to tissue that is alive that has DNA cells inside of it that are living to the transistor.
	Now you have to remember the very first transistor that John Bardeen and Will Bratton got working And there's three of them.
	I don't know why I'm blacking out the last guy, because there's three inventors of the transistor.
	It worked in water only, and water's full of DNA.
	It's full of little, you know, cells running around in there.
	Unless you've got distilled water.
	So what I'm saying is that hey, that's how you do it.
	You've got to amplify the tiny, tiny data and information that comes into the human brain that assembles itself as pictures in the mind.
	Yeah, but we're millions of miles from being able to do that.
	We're not.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Look up DNA transistors.
	I think there are theoretical physicists thinking about this stuff, but I don't know of anybody who's actually done it.
	Talk to... I'm trying to remember his name.
	He's the...
	Solid State Physicist from Stanford, who was in the movie What the Bleak Do We Know?
	His name, um, I don't know why it's... Alright, well think about his name.
	I'll take a break here.
	Alright, I can't resist doing this.
	I really, really, really liked his son.
	So here it is one more time.
	Alright, anyway, welcome back David.
	Again, I'm going to try this one more time with you.
	I understand frequencies.
	I understand how you are deriving these frequencies, the measurements you're using to derive these frequencies.
	That makes sense to me.
	What doesn't make sense is if there is a frequency at Palladius and there's one here on Earth, how are you exceeding the speed of light to be in communication with, I'm guessing you're saying ETs, there, right?
	Exactly, yeah.
	Okay, how do these two communicate with each other?
	You know, greatly exceeding the speed of light.
	How does that happen?
	The speed of light, the electromagnetic part of it, is not what's doing it.
	What is?
	It's actually the DNA.
	In fact, I just found this article, DNA Transistors, New Scientist, April 2nd, 2013.
	I know they're talking about it.
	I am aware of that.
	Okay.
	So, like, here's one of the, you know, this is one of the ways I could explain it.
	And it's, there were studies done in Florida by, his name is David Cole, computer scientist who connects human brainwaves to EEGs and dolphins.
	And when the dolphins get near the humans, the dolphins seem to cause the human brainwave to change to theirs.
	And the researchers don't seem to notice what's really going on here.
	In another study, a separate study, they did this with children.
	And once again, the children's brainwaves suddenly changed to the state of the dolphins.
	Now, what's interesting about this to me is the dolphin doesn't change to the human brainwave state.
	It's the human that changes to the dolphin's brainwave state.
	There actually are those who think dolphins could be conceivably smarter than humans.
	I'm sure you know that.
	Well, tonally and frequency, they have a far greater frequency capacity than humans.
	Their brains are nearly the size of ours and they exhibit some of the same different frequencies of brainwave states that we do.
	But I believe, see this is what happens with electrical inductance, if a stronger magnetic field coil comes into proximity with a weaker magnetic field coil,
	the stronger one will usurp the weaker one and transpose its magnetic field on
	the weaker one and increase its energy. And there's two ways that happens.
	It's not just the field strength, it's the coherency and the organization of the dolphin brainwave that is much more peaceful and serene and organized.
	But the most important part of the experiment to me is what the subjects experience when they get in the presence of dolphins.
	You get children that are autistic that suddenly become coherent and start communicating.
	I've heard that.
	And that means that Through living magnetic field inductance, you're transferring consciousness from one being to another.
	Okay, that I might be willing to buy, actually.
	Let's go, take a couple of calls, David.
	Tulsa, Oklahoma.
	David Sirita.
	Hi, Art.
	Hi.
	I'm just, I'm still, tonight's guest, I'm a little confused.
	I feel like we're starting at A and then jumping all the way to Z, and I'm just sort of lost.
	If you could go back over the deal with DNA transistors, because to me, we keep going back and forth between oscillators and transistors, and in my world, they're two different things.
	And, you know, other than being a micro, tiny switch attached to the recombinant chemical, I don't know what that would do.
	I mean, that doesn't, to me, seem like it would have any effect.
	And I'll take my answer off air.
	Well first of all transistors have multiple functions.
	In the early days they were used to amplify radio signals because that's all we had as a means of communication.
	I mean now transistors in your computer are used for colors and amplifying colors and generating colors.
	and tones and everything in your computer, so you can't say a transistor is just an amplifier.
	It has unbelievable functions and there's billions of them in a single chip.
	Right, but he wanted you to connect it to DNA and I wasn't getting that either.
	Because, okay, DNA, this is how you would build an old magnetic field sensor, is you would just wrap a copper coil around a magnet and the magnet and the coil would vibrate
	in the presence of a magnetic field, and that's how you would detect the presence
	of radio waves or any type of frequency, and that's how we make sensors today.
	So your DNA is a coil.
	It is literally a coil, and Luc Montagnier proved, the winner of the Nobel Prize who discovered the AIDS virus,
	that DNA reads very low frequencies because it's a sensor coil.
	Now if you take the DNA and then you attach it to a series of transistors and amplify that tiny,
	tiny signal, I mean it's so tiny, you eventually can see it in a computer system.
	Okay, but what you're discussing now is off in the theoretical world.
	It has not yet been done.
	Well, when you look at some of the articles about, you know, like this one in New Scientist, DNA transistors pave the way for living computers, it's not... I mean, the direction I'm saying to use it is theoretical, because what I'm saying is I'm having so many people doing this, pulsing their body with inductance with these coils, the frequencies of distant stars, and having experiences behind sleep, and even things happening in the house, That it would prompt you to say that there's got to be something going on here, because it's not just me.
	There's hundreds of people having experiences like I'm talking about, remote viewing with frequencies, a distant planet or a distant star.
	So, I believe one of the greatest mistakes we've made in physics is that we have ignored what Einstein, Niels Bohr and Max Planck have said about consciousness, as we just keep pretending, you know, the universe isn't conscious.
	But this is the funny part.
	When they're measuring the Big Bang, and they're saying the first second, second second, they're acting like somebody's watching the universe banging.
	But if there's nobody around, and you don't believe the universe is conscious, nothing's happening.
	Because there's nothing there to observe it.
	And that's the funny part to me about physicists is when they say that there's no consciousness.
	What do you mean?
	You're a consciousness.
	You're looking at the experiment.
	If you're not looking at the experiment, it isn't happening.
	And they're saying there's no consciousness.
	And Max Planck was crazy and Einstein didn't really mean to say that.
	I mean, believe me, I've sat around and worked with some of the best Nobel Prize winners in the world on nuclear fusion and landmine and bomb detection.
	I know a lot about How electronic systems work and how they're developed.
	And I know these guys, they tell me, these are current winners of prizes in physics, that they were just being philosophical when Einstein said that about consciousness and when Max Planck said that.
	And I think that's where we've made the biggest mistake, is we don't realize that the human nervous system is an electrical system.
	It can be inducted.
	Like in the case of an alien abduction, Your body becomes paralyzed by a field of energy that overtakes you.
	Alright, we've got a break here.
	For Dark Matter News, I'm Leo Ashcraft.
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	I think, David, we actually have somebody in a truck.
	Now, that's kind of unusual for this program.
	Brian, are you there?
	Yes, Art.
	Can you hear me?
	I hear you.
	Are you really in a truck?
	You really are.
	Yes, sir.
	Hey, before art, I'm in Texas.
	This show is phenomenal.
	David's brilliant.
	I've been thinking about this for a long time.
	I have my own hypothesis of communication via quantum entanglement.
	I've been thinking for a long time about global warming and how radio frequency and the bombardment of radio frequency atmospheres affecting our climate and our polar shifts because of the heat and and the magnetism of our radio frequency.
	So being able to cut down on our frequency pollution and communicate via quantum entanglement is key.
	Now he was talking about DNA transistors, which will eventually allow us to be able
	to create our first quantum computers.
	Now that is one way to start, but I'm more in the theory that we are capable of being
	able to communicate via quantum physics biologically.
	When he was speaking about...
	Okay, well, actually, you are...
	Hold on, hold on.
	You're completely in sync with him.
	That's actually what he's talking about, is communication with alien beings through biological
	methods.
	I believe that is correct, right, David?
	Well, I'm using both.
	I'm taking the frequency of the star, which most of it you can't hear because it's below the speaker and the human brain's ability.
	I transmit it from a sacred geometry coil under my bed into my body and then You know, when I don't do it, I don't have these experiences, and when I do do it, I have the experiences.
	So, I know it works, and many of my users know it works, but the question is, how do you explain it, and how do you prove it?
	Not easily, and not easily.
	And part of what the caller is talking about, I believe a lot of the chaos in the electromagnetic transmissions around the planet are what's causing a lot of the heat.
	Chaos produces heat.
	Well, if radio waves could be seen, we'd all be ducking.
	Trust me, it would just be a soup out there.
	Denver, Colorado, you're on with David.
	Hey Art, love the show.
	I'm actually one of the people from the TuneIn app, so I got Joe Rogan to retweet that for you to get you some more listeners.
	I love Joe.
	That's great, thank you.
	Yeah, my question for David was, Um, after listening to him talk about the frequencies, um, I was wondering that if he could kind of help me out with a theory that I have.
	That maybe UFO crop circles are nothing more than the frequencies of David's circle talk from the whole night?
	Huh.
	Interesting.
	Well, see, that's just it.
	I started there.
	Like, I took the wavelengths of the crop circles, the real ones, and you can calculate those frequencies easily.
	It's just the speed of light divided by the distance around the circle.
	And you've got to use good resolution.
	You can't just use feet.
	You've got to go right down to, you know, millimeters would be really good to get super accurate frequencies.
	And look at the numbers!
	And when you look at the numbers, you go, these are either harmonic numbers or transmitting
	or non-harmonic numbers.
	And that's a whole other part of my work that I discovered this music scale in the Great Pyramid
	that is far more harmonic than our modern music scale that we use today.
	And you can do this with distortion testing to prove it.
	So, I mean, there are examples of induction and consciousness everywhere, everywhere.
	There's the case of the dolphins, there's in... Willem, can I ask you something, David?
	The little ball of white comes up to the guy in the tractor and he falls asleep!
	You see it happen!
	It inducted his brain and put him into a trance!
	Right, got it.
	Can I ask you a question?
	When the pyramid was functioning, capstone on there and everything, and the pyramid was functioning, what was it doing?
	I believe, and I've had this experience where I actually met Anubis in a lucid dream when I was pulsing pyramid frequencies in my body, and he told me, you know, with an oscillator that size, what it actually does is, see we use oscillators to tune, to send two radio waves to communicate with each other, but it's not the frequency that's the communication, it's our voices, and the guy's horn, who just played his horn, it went through, it vibrated, and it We used oscillators to establish the frequency that is then amplified and used for two-way communication, right?
	Two-way communication.
	But the frequency itself is not the communication.
	The communication is sound and pictures, which is modulated onto the radio wave.
	So, but that only travels at the speed of light.
	Absolutely.
	The quantum function is faster.
	So, what I'm saying is if you send the frequency of a distant star or planet into a quantum level vibration, then the quantum function will send the signal to that star faster than the speed of light.
	And that's how I believe the only way we're ever going to make E.T.
	contact is when we go in this direction.
	You might be right about that.
	You know, I don't know Honestly, whether we're ever going to make E.T.
	contact, but if we do, we're going to need something that goes really fast, and I think that's going to happen at the quantum level, so I agree with that.
	Well, we've already made E.T.
	The point is, you know, we've made the contact.
	It's happening to so many people, but they can't prove it.
	Okay, let's go to Missouri.
	Hello, Missouri.
	Yes, actually it's Christy from Oregon.
	I just wanted to go ahead and ask you guys your viewpoints on how frequency waves connect in with binaural beats, lucid dreaming, out-of-body experiences and sleep paralysis.
	I've been practicing lucid dreaming for about six years now and meditating with binaural beats and I have found some crazy reactions from it, that's for sure.
	I was just a little more curious about those frequency waves that we were hearing earlier and how they connect in and change our signals in our brain.
	You want that one, David?
	David?
	Hello, can you hear me?
	Yes, I hear you.
	Well, see, there's way beyond binaural beats.
	I mean, I found, like, the pyramid is a quadranural transmitter.
	In fact, when I transmit the four uneven wavelengths of the Great Pyramid sides all the way up, I get this incredible breathing, rising and falling energy wave.
	And the brain seems to really, really love it.
	It really seems to relax and energize the entire body.
	Can you record that one for us?
	I'll send it to you, absolutely.
	Actually, the sounds would blow you away.
	I use ESS speakers and I can shake the whole house down.
	We've got pretty good audio, so we'll shake them up.
	Yeah, so I'll send you those.
	Okay.
	But the point is, over and over and over again, I mean, the caller just asked about sleep paralysis.
	Yes.
	When a being or consciousness with a greater magnetic field than your nervous system, which is not very powerful, the human nervous system, usurps it, you become paralyzed because there's far more energy coming from their magnetic field than yours.
	And therefore, they can transfer either a negative or a positive experience to you.
	through that taking over your electrical nervous system, but they wouldn't permanently take over your system.
	Like there's a story of Robert Monroe in Claude Swanson's book, The Synchronized Universe, where Robert Monroe is sleeping in this cage with all these wires wrapped around the sleeping area, right?
	And he goes out of body, goes through the wires, and then they put certain frequencies in the wires and he can't get out of body.
	He's trapped.
	And that's what happens with disharmony.
	Hold on, David.
	Hold on.
	Caller?
	Caller?
	Go ahead.
	I'm so sorry for interrupting.
	I had ones where I was out of body experiences where I was pulling.
	I could feel literally like my soul or whatever you may call it, pulling from my head and my body.
	And I could feel my physical body shaking, but I couldn't get out of it.
	But I was trying so hard to.
	Once I got out, I actually floated, of course, to my ceiling, which I hear is very common.
	And I could see my surroundings below me.
	When I woke up, I found that my surroundings were exactly how I envisioned them in my dream.
	But I've meditated with these beats before most of my dreams that I had like this.
	But I was wondering if the pull is like that.
	I mean, is the pull where you're like, it almost feels real from pulling from your head, your body.
	Well, you describe the intense vibrations when you're going out and that's when the electrical nervous system starts getting pulsed and so it feels like a pulsing because there's a lot of energy moving through the spine and the nervous system and then eventually you have enough energy in the right frequency to get out.
	But what I'm saying in the Monroe experiment is there are certain frequencies that will trap you and keep you stuck here and there's other frequencies that can liberate you and get you out there and I found when what really binds us to this body, we can't get out, we can't get past the solar system or we can't even get past Earth because we're all dreaming at the same frequency as our own planet.
	So how do you get past it?
	How do you get out there?
	And it's simple.
	The same way you change a radio station.
	You just got to use a different mantra is what they would call it in India, in ancient India in the Vedas, a different sound that would tune you or a different drum beat in a native You know, American or First Nations Circle, and the timing of that drumbeat would be the timing of the wavelength of a distant star.
	And that's how you would do it.
	But, see, I eventually think this is going to get to the point where these biotransistors, these DNA transistors, will be able to amplify this signal, the very weak signal that goes through the nervous system that may appear as a voice.
	You may hear a voice or you may have a vision.
	But you'll eventually be able to amplify those ultra-weak signals, and you'll be able to hear them, just like EVP and reverse speech, you know, all that stuff that was coming out years ago that you were having on your show.
	I mean, that's the beginning of consciousness interfacing with technology.
	We're about to do an EVP show.
	Alright, very quickly, Nick on Skype.
	Hey, I just was wondering, I'm trying not to panic here, what David was saying about dolphins.
	Mm-hmm.
	Could he expand a little more on the whole communication with dolphins?
	What was panicking you?
	Oh, well, I just don't want to panic hearing aliens and dolphins.
	I'm making sure I have my towel.
	Your towel?
	Yeah.
	I'm not following, I'm sorry.
	Breaking down into tears?
	Don't panic!
	Well, yeah, what I'm saying about dolphins is that they're tonally far more advanced than us.
	I mean, they can sing in tone far higher frequency than humans.
	I mean, beyond a hundred thousand Hertz and also very, very low frequencies.
	But, so we don't really have a lot of range.
	I mean, I have this online course where I teach people How to tone all these tones from the Great Pyramid Scale and expand their brainwave range and their consciousness range.
	But dolphins clearly exhibit a far greater, far more harmonized magnetic field than humans.
	And what I'm saying in these studies is with children and even autistic children is the dolphins They clearly exhibit a more superior, more desirable, peaceful brainwave state, and they can transpose it onto a human so they can experience it.
	And that's a form of biological... I guess it is.
	...magnetic field abduction.
	And it's a kind abduction.
	And then there are certain abductions that are involuntary abductions that are not desirable.
	Okay.
	Austin, Texas, your turn with David Sirita.
	Hello, hey Art, hey David.
	I was checking out David's website and he has a course that he's offering.
	I wanted to ask, what's the average time of contact once you take your course?
	What do you mean the average time of contact?
	I mean, what's the average time before you make contact with any entity?
	Well, it would be different with every person.
	See, I believe the 60 hertz wiring around your house and the Wi-Fi and the cell phone and all the satellites transmitting are...
	Bombarding your nervous system and programming you so to get you out of the program you first you've got to retune the nervous system With these very sacred tones that I found in the great pyramid scale and then once you're a well-tuned nervous system Then you can start tuning Actually, you can actually get the exact frequency of different moons of different planets inside the solar system I've had a lot of luck remote viewing The planets in our own solar system as well as distant stars.
	But I found first you've got to be nicely tuned before it's easy to go out of body or remote view very distant.
	Okay, well so his question was, if you were to proceed with your course as outlined I guess on the website, how long before you could conceivably make contact?
	I think the longest it's taken somebody to have an experience is around a month of doing it every day, but the course doesn't focus on contact in the first year.
	It focuses on tuning and harmonizing your nervous system to produce a very desirable state of consciousness.
	I had some kind of a contact, or OBE, sleeping underneath a pyramid with a crystal on top, and that was back in 98.
	Of course, there was no communication, but there was this extreme love coming from this entity looking at me.
	And he was sitting on a horse, of all things, and the horse would look like it appeared to be on a starship, which is a weird... Oh, wonderful, wonderful.
	Sounds like a fantastic experience to me.
	That was the only time I've ever had that experience in my lifetime.
	That was back in 98.
	And that was without DMT, right?
	Yes, that's true, Art.
	One other thing, I did use your jewelry once, and I still have this weird effect.
	My jewelry?
	Not your jewelry, David's jewelry.
	Whether it was taken away, it was mysteriously taken away from me, but the effects is I project energy out of my eyes.
	In other words, your picture on Art's Website there, you got that weird look, you know, it's kind of intense.
	Sometimes I have that look in my eyes and people are almost sometimes either react good to it or they freak out at it.
	And I could, I project energy that actually zaps them.
	And I don't know what to think of it or what to make of it anymore.
	You know, I almost feel like Sasquatch, like I'm Sasquatch and people are looking at me and spotted something crazy and then they could be hundreds of feet away from me.
	Sometimes I could lock them up with my energy and I don't know what's going on.
	Listen, we are woefully out of time.
	I'm terribly sorry.
	And then somebody's distracting me by calling me on Skype with a name, Skype name of beating a pale horse.
	David, it's been a pleasure having you on the program.
	But we are absolutely out of time.
	Out of time.
	Yes.
	Thank you, Art.
	It's been wonderful being here.
	It's a real treat for me to hear your voice again.
	And I love your skepticism and how deep you go on both sides of the question.
	Well, I try to understand.
	Sometimes I get stuck, David.
	It's great.
	It's great.
	I love it.
	Okay.
	All right, buddy.
	Thank you.
	Take care.
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