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July 24, 2015 - Art Bell
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unidentified
Hi Desert in the Great American Southwest.
art bell
I bid you all good evening.
Good morning, whoever you may be.
God's great universe.
Good night in the desert.
I'm Mark Bell.
And tonight, you better pay particular attention here at the beginning of the program because I'm going to tell you how to call the show and sound good.
There's lots of ways you can sound bad.
You can be on a telephone and definitely.
You really sound bad.
Actually, you won't sound anything wrong.
Well, maybe they do have some you would serve us there.
I'm not really sure.
At any rate, you get the idea.
Lots of ways to sound bad, and a few really good ways to sound good.
One is to use a connected, real telephone.
The second is to use, well, you can use a cell phone.
Now, if you've got five bars, you know, or you've got lots and lots of bars, well, a cell phone probably is going to be okay.
But there is a better way.
It's to use Skype.
If you've got an Apple product, you know, an iPhone, or you've got an Android lesser phone.
Trying to start a fight here, folks.
You can add Skype, put Skype on your phone, and then I get that there are two ways to call me.
One, you can try to make me a contact, and then that'll put it on your list, and all you've got to do is click on it to call me.
And I'm about to tell you how to do that.
And number two, you can actually just go to the dialing place and put in MITD51 or MITD55 and call me.
So either way, put Skype on your phone, for goodness sakes.
Then if you're in North America, U.S., Canada, whatever, call me at MITD51.
That's midnight in the desert, right?
M-I-T-D 51.
Or if you're anywhere outside of North America, call me at MITD55.
Midnight in the desert, 55.
One more time, M-I-T-D 55.
Very easy way to call.
And when you do call that way, boy, you really sound good.
We have got the best in digital.
And a lot of people to thank for that.
I keep getting emails from people saying, Art, the audio is so clear.
Well, thank you, Telos.
They provided a very great deal of the really, you know, clear equipment, my friend Joe Talbot here in town.
I want to thank Keith Rowland, my webmaster.
I do this all up front.
You see Dr. J, my producer, all of you, of course.
The Belgab website.
You might want to check them out.
They're rough but vaguely lovable.
I've said that before.
StreamGuys and LV.net.
They provide the internet that gets us from here to there.
All right.
Tonight is open lines, and that means anything goes.
Anything you want to talk about is fair game.
Anything at all?
Now, I don't care if you're a vampire, talk to us.
In fact, if you're a vampire, definitely talk to us.
But what I'm going to really open is a time traveler line tonight.
Now, I don't mean members of our time traveler group that get to download the shows.
I mean real time travelers.
Those of you who are able to travel in time either to the future or the past.
Now, I am going to give you all a special line.
Nobody's ever heard of this line before because I've been saving it.
This line, if you call it, by the way, you will note you're coming through Roswell, New Mexico to call me.
You dial 1-575.
This is only, now listen to me, only time travelers, only those who have actually traveled in time, not members of the group.
1-575-208-7787.
That's area code 575-208-7787.
Only if you're a time traveler.
Otherwise, the public lines are fine.
You're welcome to use those.
That would be area code 952-225-5278.
That's the public line.
952-225-5278.
And again, Roswell, only for time travelers, real-time travelers.
And I'm not easily fooled.
I mean, I'll listen, but, you know, if I catch something really askew, I'm going to say something.
I see it's already ringing.
Interesting.
Okay, so a couple of items.
I want to run by you.
We'll do a break and then come back and open the lines.
And God save us all.
All right.
I've been talking to you about the digital revolution, right?
Today the news came out that AT ⁇ T is now the owner of Direct TV.
Holy moly.
Direct TV has purchased or AT ⁇ T has purchased Direct TV.
Now, close your eyes, use your imagination, and think, you know, what could AT ⁇ T do with DirecTV?
Direct TV is a really big company to get swallowed.
unidentified
$48.5 billion, actually.
art bell
Well, my guess is that a lot of you who are on phones soon are going to be watching Direct TV on your phone.
Yeah, I know some of you can already do it, but imagine this merger.
unidentified
Oh, man.
art bell
The world is changing so fast, and we just barely got on this break and wave, baby.
Conditions on Pluto.
Somewhat hazy.
With flowing ice.
Sounds like a weather forecast.
Incredibly hazy.
With flowing ice.
Pluto is hazier than scientists expected and now appears to be covered with flowing ice.
Oh, man, that's incredible.
And then this from theanomalist.com.
I want to talk to this guy.
It is reported that a Washington state officer, a trooper, says he leaves gifts of food for Bigfoot in a location up in the North Cascade Mountains.
He's gotten, he says, within 20 feet of them, heard them speak to each other in what sounds like a mix of Native American and Asian language.
The state trooper says he has no intention of obtaining evidence or revealing their location, so it's unclear what his motives are in coming forth with this story.
But, Mr. Trooper, I want to talk to you, and I'm sure everybody would like to hear a little bit about that.
So, yeah.
Please call me, Mr. Trooper, if you're out there.
If you're really seeing, you know, this is pretty impressive.
A state trooper, right?
With Bigfoot.
And there's more, but we're going to go to open lines.
That's what tonight is nothing but open lines.
Now, there is the possibility that the gentleman that I judge to be very literate and probably, although I never asked a member of Anonymous, may call in.
I gave him the appropriate information to do so, but if he does, you know, he may check it out too.
I don't know.
We'll see.
What I really wanted to ask was about the philosophy of Anonymous.
unidentified
Now, oh, there is one more thing.
art bell
My Twitter account.
In the second hour of this program, I may open a Periscope.
How many of you know what Periscope is?
If you go to Periscope and you're connected to my Twitter account, you'll get a notification that I've come up on Periscope.
Now, what you're going to be able to see is probably not worth looking at.
The back of my head, my equipment, the studio, as much as can be picked up by my iPhone 6 camera back there.
So in the second hour of the show, I'm probably going to go up on Periscope for at least a little while now.
So join me on Twitter.
I am Art Bell51.
That's Art Bell, A-R-T-B-E-L-L 51.
And if I come up then in the second hour or so of the show, you'll be able to see me doing the show.
I have no idea of why it's any interest whatsoever because you're not going to hear much.
I guess you'll hear my voice.
You'll see little meters moving and things ringing and dials going crazy and all of that.
But that's about it.
Nevertheless, gazillions of you have asked that they be able to see something.
So it is Periscope I will use and you that will views.
Sorry.
Again, it's Art Bell51.
A-R-T-B-E-L-L 51.
Little significance there, huh?
Okay, so what we're going to do is, I think I've got everything out that I wanted to.
We're going to break now, and then when we come back, anything, anything goes.
Isn't there a song by that band?
unidentified
I mean, anything.
art bell
This is midnight.
Midnight in the desert.
I'm Mark Bell.
right where you are.
unidentified
Thank you.
You're raging into the night With Midnight in the Desert to be part of the show, please call 1952.
Call Art.
That's 1-952-225-5278.
art bell
That's how it's done.
Hi, everybody.
unidentified
Open lines ahead, but you know what?
art bell
On one line right now, I believe the gentleman who wrote me the very articulate email about anonymous, the meme anonymous, is on the line.
Hello there.
unidentified
Good evening, Mr. Bell.
art bell
Good evening, sir.
Are you far away from a computer?
unidentified
I am not, sir.
art bell
Okay.
We have a little tunnel effect.
But actually, you know what?
It's perhaps better this way that your voice is not quite as clear as it might otherwise.
All right, look, when you wrote me that, we had a communication, and during that communication, I did not ask you if you were part of Anonymous, and I don't think I'm going to ask you that now unless you want to just cop to it.
unidentified
The thing about Anonymous is that those who openly profess to be members of Anonymous usually aren't.
Anonymous is the best way I can describe it is anonymous is a shared pseudonym of a subset of people whose citizenship is the internet.
Anybody who has been infected with the anonymous meme is anonymous.
The only differentiation between an active member of Anonymous and somebody on the net is whether or not they take up the guy Fox mask, say they're anonymous, and then do something with it.
Okay.
art bell
All that said, in your own mind, is you or isn't you?
And you don't have to answer that.
You can say, I'm not going to answer that.
unidentified
You know, I'm not going to answer that.
art bell
Okay, cool.
I guess there's a.
Here's where I want to begin with you.
I want to understand a little bit about Anonymous.
For example, targets.
When Anonymous decides to hit a target, generally, would you say that these are people who most of the population would view as not necessarily villainous, but perhaps having done something wrong, having harmed or hurt somebody?
Is that the kind of target that you go after?
unidentified
In the past five years, that has largely been the case.
Early in the history of the Anonymous meme, that was not the case.
Okay.
art bell
So is there a...
Is that fair to say it's all part of what Anonymous is?
unidentified
It is accurate to say that those are the considered opinions of some Anans who have made it their mission to speak out and occasionally to undertake direct action about those things.
There are other Anons who, quite frankly, couldn't care less.
And that is entirely their decision for good, for ill, or for indifferent.
Sure.
art bell
So it's kind of controlled anarchy?
Or uncontrolled anarchy.
unidentified
I would say barely controlled anarchy.
art bell
Barely controlled.
unidentified
By and large, Anonymous does.
So the thing about anarchy is it doesn't mean there are no rules.
It means there are no rulers.
And Anonymous does have some rules that most anonymous tend to follow.
One of them is if you openly profess to be anonymous, then you are not anonymous.
Another one is you don't go after the media.
Really?
art bell
Oh, we are so pleased to hear that one.
unidentified
Well, we live in a media-saturated culture and a media-saturated world.
If it doesn't wind up on the news, it didn't happen.
Doesn't matter what it was.
Somebody could let off a nuclear device, but if it wasn't on the 6 o'clock news, most people would have no idea.
art bell
Are you right about that?
unidentified
So because of this, the media is probably the greatest weapon that Anonymous has because power perceived is power achieved.
And if you can convince enough people that you wield power, you have that power and you can do what you like with it.
art bell
Yeah.
Is this memory, in your opinion?
unidentified
Absolutely.
This is in part due to the fact that cadres of anonymous occasionally hold recruiting drives, or at least I think of them as recruiting drives, where they seek out new members.
They hold what amount to boot camps for operational security, privacy, encryption, how to access any of the anonymous communications networks, how to essentially compartmentalize your life as an anon from your work life, your home life, your school life, things like that.
Wow.
And also, by utilizing the media as a communications medium and a weapon, the meme is propagated to people who would otherwise probably never have encountered Anonymous before.
And some number of people who have learned about Anonymous by watching and learning about ops on the news or reading in the paper may have joined.
art bell
No secret handshakes, right?
unidentified
No secret handshakes.
By and large, you have to ask.
art bell
I had to ask.
I'm sorry.
unidentified
No, it's okay.
By and large, you just have to have a pretty thick skin.
If you don't, give as well as you get and generally try to treat other Anons the way you'd want to be treated.
Of course, there were some Anons who couldn't care less about that, but by and large, Anons in the Anonymous Hive Mind tend to sink or swim based upon what they accomplish and how many people that they can convince to help them do something.
art bell
A lot of people know about the Internet, of course.
A lot of people don't know that there's something deep and dark under what we see as the Internet, right?
unidentified
That is the case.
art bell
In fact, so deep and dark that most friends I have, even the pretty literate computer users, say, for God's sakes, don't go there.
I don't know, what do you call it?
The Undernet, the Darknet, the Devil's Nest, what?
unidentified
It really depends on which of these networks you mean.
The Torah network is often called the Darknet, but there are other websites that are on the public net, which would most certainly fit the description.
The only difference between a hidden computer network and an overt but extremely over-the-top and frightening website is whether or not you go to it.
And there are other sorts of computer networks which could also be said to fit that general description.
art bell
Even if somebody knew how to go to some of the places you described, would it be fair to describe these places for the average computer user as more than a little dangerous?
unidentified
Define danger, please.
Not being able to use your computer anymore.
art bell
I don't know.
unidentified
I need to think about that for a moment.
So for some of these sites.
art bell
Possibly not caring about your bank balance?
I don't know.
I'm just trying to present danger here.
unidentified
Perfectly valid forms of danger.
So I think I should take those in descending order of complexity.
Sure.
For some of the hidden chat servers and websites on the Tor Darknet.
Yes.
I have yet to encounter any sites which are specifically booby-trapped to try to compromise the browser's computer.
It doesn't mean they're not out there.
It doesn't mean that no one will try it in the future.
It means that in the time I've spent exploring them and actually looking for them, I haven't found any.
It is more likely that your average casual user would be hit by a compromised website on what we would consider the civilian or the public net or would be hit by a spear phishing attack, which would redirect them to a compromised site for that specific purpose.
art bell
You know, it's true.
There's plenty of stuff like that on the regular net, but I would imagine once you get down there, I'm sure somebody like yourself knows how to navigate your way through that.
Or do you even fear entering that area?
unidentified
There is always fear.
The thing about fear is fear reminds you to be cautious.
It reminds you not to take things at face value.
And it reminds you to trust your intuition.
And if your intuition is screaming at you saying, for God's sake, don't go here.
There's something wrong, you should probably listen to it.
art bell
And if it says Uncle Carl has left you $45 million, don't go there either.
unidentified
Yeah, don't go there either.
art bell
Okay.
unidentified
Or if you do, or if you do, fill in the name and address of Godzilla McMurphy at 123 NE Street, Silverdale, California.
art bell
Right.
That's right.
Is there any reason for the general public to fear Anonymous?
Oh, you have to think about it.
unidentified
Oh, yes.
There are individual anons who may be inclined to make people's lives difficult in the extreme under the aegis of anonymous.
art bell
I see.
unidentified
In recent years, some of the major data breaches at government agencies, very large corporations, or let's say companies that certainly do not have the best interests of people in general or citizens of the internet in particular at heart, their employees would most certainly be valid targets.
One of the things that come to mind are some of the surveillance software companies that were compromised by Anonymous in the past couple of years, where employee records were dumped on the net as a way of shaming the employees or working for companies that sell surveillance hardware and software to whoever can buy it.
art bell
All right.
Let's see.
What else do I want to ask you?
What would you want if you were to describe Anonymous to the general public in at least a fair way, how would you describe it?
unidentified
I would describe Anonymous as a hive mind, and possibly I would describe it as an emergent phenomenon of the first generation of people who were, for all intents and purposes, born and raised on the internet.
art bell
Born and raised on the internet.
Yes, very good point.
Man, that's really incredible.
What a world we live in today.
I'm simply amazed.
And going back to a very important point that you made, you said anonymous does not go after the media.
unidentified
By and large, no, they don't.
art bell
Because I, for one, am so happy to hear that.
unidentified
The thing about the media is, if you want to get your message out, you have to at least let the media get close enough to you to take notes and come up with a story of some kind.
art bell
Well, that's true.
That's true.
I did make an appeal on Twitter, and boy, I did get a big response, not at first, but a pretty big response.
So I'm impressed.
Oh, you saw it, did you?
Yes.
unidentified
Yes, sir.
art bell
Do you think that we are being monitored right now?
In other words, do you think NSA or whoever monitors this kind of thing is trying to figure out who you are and where you are and what you're up to?
unidentified
I have no doubt at all.
And by the way, hello, everyone at Fort Meade.
art bell
Yeah, I'm sure they're listening.
So I'm not going to hold this very long.
I would like to make you my, I don't know, official information source for Anonymous.
I wonder if that's fair.
Do you mind being an official information source?
unidentified
I wouldn't say I'm official, but if I can help somehow, I'd like to.
art bell
Okay, how about unofficial information source?
unidentified
That's fair.
art bell
All right.
I will call upon you in the future, as the Godfather said.
Listen, brother, thank you very, very much.
I've always wanted you to speak with somebody like yourself.
Take care, and good luck.
I hope the door stays closed and all of that stuff.
Thank you very, very much.
I think it took a lot of guts to do what that man just did.
So thank you, buddy.
I'm Mark Bell.
This is Midnight in the Desert.
unidentified
Ho, ho.
Ho, ho.
leo ashcraft
For Dark Matter News, I'm Leo Ashcraft.
The age of astromining took a step closer to reality last week, but don't get too excited just yet.
There's still a long, long way to go before it could be successful.
On July 16th, Hopeful Asteroid Prospectors Planetary Resources, based in Redmond, Washington, released their ARCID-3 Red Flight A3R spacecraft from the International Space Station.
This tiny vehicle, a CubeSat, has very limited goals and abilities.
In its 90 days of operation in low orbit, it will test electronic systems and software that will eventually be used on fully-fledged asteroid mining spacecraft.
The ultimate goal of the company is to send a spacecraft to an asteroid near Earth and scour it for useful minerals.
Asteroids are rich in water and precious metals such as platinum, and a later fleet of rovers would be sweeping the surface for these resources.
This hull could be launched back to Earth or used in space.
Prospecting water for use in space could be very useful.
Water is, of course, essential to astronauts, and it could also be split into hydrogen and oxygen, the constituents of rocket fuel.
Using asteroids to get water rather than carrying it from Earth could drastically reduce the cost of space travel.
The world's largest retailer announced this week it has signed an exclusive one-year deal with EvenFlow to sell a $149 car seat that sounds an alarm when a car ignition is turned off while a baby is strapped in.
The seat aims to keep parents from leaving little ones behind by using a wireless receiver that plugs into a car's onboard diagnostic port and syncs with the chest clip that goes around the baby.
If the car is turned off and the chest clip is still buckled, a series of tones will play to alert the driver.
Nearly 40 children annually die as a result of being left behind in hot cars.
You are listening to Dark Matter News on Midnight in the Desert.
A southwestern Ontario family had a creepy encounter with a camera monitoring their young child when it suddenly began playing music and a voice said they were being watched.
Ontario Provincial Police Constable Liz Melvin said that earlier this month the parent reported the occurrence and they heard the voice and noticed the camera moving while they were rocking their child to sleep in their nursery.
Melvin says the camera played eerie music and a voice could be heard indicating the parent and child were being watched.
The internet provider confirmed the home's router had been hacked.
In response to the incident, the Ontario Provincial Police are warning people with cameras that are connected to the internet that the devices can be hacked.
They say security cameras and monitoring systems may be susceptible to hackers because many have an option to be used remotely, enabled by default.
There are places in this world that seem unworldly in their ability to draw you in with the mystique and beauty that they conjure.
One such particular place is called Suicide Forest.
It is the second most popular in the world to take one's life.
It happens to reside at the base of Mount Fuji, where the vastness of the dense forest can draw in people whose corpses are found in hundreds by volunteers who will annually search areas of the woods.
Around 10 to 30 bodies will be found every month.
In certain areas, ropes had been found hanging cut where the noose had been.
Shoes of every color and style are set out from an array of travelers that either left the forest deciding that life is worth living and they go on, and the ones that decide to stay only add to the paranormal feel of entities calling in the lost that are weak and wander.
The seclusion of the forest makes it the perfect place to commit suicide.
People come to either simply enjoy the majestic views of Mount Fuji or those interested in tales of the macabre.
Only when you see this forest firsthand do you understand just how apt the moniker suicide forest really is.
Some visitors to the famed Suicide Forest are just curious, but others enter without any plan to ever leave the dark, creepy forest that looms in the shadows of Mount Fuji.
I'm Leo Ashcraft for Dark Matter News.
unidentified
I can see her lying back in her satin dress.
In a room where you do what you don't confess.
Someday you better take care.
If I find you've been creeping down my backstay.
Someday you better take care.
If I find you've been creeping down my backstay.
Want to take a ride?
From the high desert and the high desert.
the great American Southwest?
This is Midnight in the Desert, exclusively on the Dark Matter Digital Networks.
To call the show, dial 1-952-CAL ART.
That's 1-952-225-5278.
art bell
I still can't believe that conversation I just had.
Oh, man.
That'll be with me for a while.
unidentified
That was...
art bell
All right, so.
I feel like I just had a visit with a Godfather, actually.
All right, so open lines.
Anything you want to talk about?
Again, if you are a time traveler, that means if you actually traveled in time to the past and or the future, especially if you did so mechanically, I'm giving you our special Roswell line for time travelers only.
Area code 575-208-772787.
Got to get that right.
575-208-7787.
Of course, you have to put one in front of that, right?
All right, here we go.
Open lines.
Anything goes.
Let's try Skype and Larry.
unidentified
Hello, Art.
Yeah, A L0AA.
Prescott, Arizona.
art bell
Well, okay.
Press out Arizona.
Yes.
unidentified
I have a couple suggestions.
art bell
That's a ham radio call, by the way, everybody.
unidentified
Yeah, that's a ham call.
If you can have Chuck Messler or Hal Lindsay on again, I heard them in your other venue.
And when you broadcasted from the Philippines, I was listening.
And if you could talk more about your cats and your wife and child, I think I heard you had more daughters.
I think your listeners would love to hear it.
And I'm really glad you're back on the air.
This is great.
And I think Skype is great.
Thank you.
And thank you for the privilege.
art bell
All right, my friend.
Take care.
unidentified
You too.
art bell
And thank you.
unidentified
73.
art bell
73.
So, hmm.
The girls are great.
My wife Erin is extremely supportive.
And we've been married a while now.
Quite a while.
And we have an eight-year-old daughter who is named Asia, and she is a straight A student.
Yeah, I can brag about her a little bit, right?
She's a straight A student.
You know, the sad news is we lost Yeti.
Yeti was our alpha cat.
And after 23 years, you know, he was getting so sick, I realized that I was keeping him alive more for me than, you know, for him.
So at that point, I said, that's enough.
And anyway, I don't want to talk a lot about this because it'll put me in a bad mood.
And I want to be in a good mood tonight.
Abby is now taking over the position of Alpha Cat.
Now, that is really interesting.
Abby, who is like number two, it's unbelievable.
Abby has completely changed.
It's kind of like he went from kitty to tiger.
In other words, he's taken the alpha position, and poor little Dolly.
Well, she's the only slave around.
Anyway, the Bell household is just spiffy.
Let's go here, I think, somewhere outside the country and say, hello, you're on midnight.
unidentified
Hello?
art bell
Hello?
Now you're shuffling all around.
You just need to get close to whatever the microphone is and talk into that.
unidentified
Do you hear me now?
art bell
No, no, no, no, no.
What are you trying to talk into?
unidentified
I have headphones and a microphone.
art bell
No, your microphone is not active.
unidentified
So since that's...
art bell
Oh, yes, much better.
Where are you?
unidentified
I am in Chile, in South America.
art bell
Wow!
Really?
You are my first South American call.
unidentified
Really?
That's nice.
art bell
So you're in Chile?
unidentified
Yeah, I'm in Chile, in the city of La Serena.
art bell
Wow.
Well, welcome to the program.
That's really exciting.
It really is.
unidentified
Well, thank you, Art.
I've listened to your shows since about two years.
I've listened to some of the old coast to coast, and I've been listening to all your shows for about that time.
And it's really exciting to me to have come through.
art bell
I know.
It's exciting to have you come through.
What is your favorite topic that we have talked about?
unidentified
Well, my favorite topic is secret societies and more of the conspiracy world.
You know, I have listened to...
art bell
Do you like secret societies?
Yeah, we talk a lot about ours here, but I'm curious, do you have secret societies in Chile?
unidentified
Well, you know, all the typical secret societies, Chile was founded by a Masonic lodge.
Our founding fathers were all masons, as in almost every South American country back in the 19th century.
So there has been a Masonic presence in Chile, very strong.
There's also, I note that the OTO even is here, has a lodge in Santiago in the capital city.
I think Chile has a very long story for the secret societies also, but those would be the most notorious.
The Masonic lodges here are very strong.
art bell
Is Chile pretty stable now?
unidentified
Yes, pretty stable.
It's pretty stable.
We have been growing in the past years, but now all is very stuck, you know.
But it seems that the whole world is getting stuck right now.
art bell
Oh, yes.
Well, I have lived in third world countries, and there are days when you wake up and find out that tanks are in the street and there's a military coup underway.
So I've been there and done that.
unidentified
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
But here the thing is it's very stable.
It's more stable than other countries of South America.
All right.
All right.
art bell
Well listen, I've got to go, but I really appreciate your call.
And you can be, you can keep the honor with you that you were the first call ever from Chile.
unidentified
Oh, that's a great honor, Art.
Thank you very much.
And all the best to you and your show.
art bell
Thank you.
The way he did that was to simply dial M-I-T-D55.
M-I-T-D-5-5.
And again, let me give out the time traveler line.
Come on.
Come on, time travelers.
I know you're out there.
Area code 575-208-7787.
And if we can't find time travelers, it's quite all right.
We'll settle for people who think they're the Antichrist, perhaps those who have seen an entity, an alien line, men in black, abduction line, immortals.
You know, I mean, we're open to, as you can see, virtually anything.
Who is Dobie?
Doby, welcome to midnight.
unidentified
Hello, hello, Art.
art bell
Okay, I'm good, but you're far away from your computer, and it sounds terrible.
unidentified
No, no.
art bell
Yes, yes, yes.
unidentified
Oh, God.
Yeah.
art bell
Get close to the microphone on your computer.
Can you do that?
unidentified
Yeah.
How about?
art bell
Closer.
unidentified
Nah, my headset is not working.
Damn it.
art bell
I see.
I think the same problem the first caller had.
unidentified
I'll call back, man.
art bell
Oh, no, no, it's okay.
unidentified
All right, I wanted to find out what's going on with Mel's hole.
Have you heard about that guy?
art bell
Well, I presume the hole's still there.
Oh, you mean Mel?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
art bell
Okay, so the word was that Mel contracted cancer, I believe, and went to Australia.
Now, I've not heard anything since, but I'm open to hearing.
Okay?
So if Mel's out there, buddy, call me.
All right?
unidentified
Yeah.
Whenever I want to tell somebody about your show, I explain the sheep story.
art bell
Whatever gets the promo done.
On my time traveler line, you are on the air.
unidentified
Hello, Mr. Spell.
art bell
Yes, sir.
Welcome to the program.
unidentified
How are you doing?
art bell
I'm doing all right.
It's been a while.
unidentified
Glad to hear you back.
art bell
You are a time traveler?
unidentified
Yes.
I'm not sure if I should give you my real name or not.
art bell
No, I wouldn't do that.
unidentified
No.
art bell
Really, I wouldn't do that.
unidentified
John is the most common name in America, or one of the most common.
So you could call me that for point of reference.
art bell
You don't have anything to do with somebody named Teeter, do you?
unidentified
No, no, no.
art bell
Okay, okay.
So your name is John.
John, how have you traveled in time?
Have you gone to the future, the past, or both?
unidentified
Well, you see, Mr. Bill, I was not, I was born in the future.
My year was 2078.
art bell
2078.
unidentified
Not so distant future, 2078.
art bell
Can you tell me if I ask you a question or two about 2078?
Is that all right?
unidentified
No, perfectly fine.
Well, you see, I can answer the best of my abilities because I was born in 2078.
But the Trim Travel on Agency, they bring us back.
Agency?
My family was part of an experiment where I was born in 2078, but we moved back in time every five years.
So right now I'm in 2034.
And I could tell you this, much, Part, gas prices are still the same.
art bell
Is that right?
We must have really gotten Iraq straightened out, huh?
unidentified
No, no, no, no.
art bell
The Middle East is a mess.
unidentified
There's no ISIS.
I can tell you this, Much.
There's no ISIS, but there's far, far worse.
art bell
Far worse than ISIS?
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
I don't even know if I want to know about that.
You know what I do want to know?
What is the current iPhone model?
unidentified
We are up to the iPhone 34GS.
34GS.
I'm happy to tell you.
art bell
You know, I hate those middle models.
I hate the middle models, but I can only imagine what it does.
Holy mackerel.
unidentified
Oh, you should see it now.
They're getting bigger and bigger and thicker and thicker.
It's like the giant Cinderblock phone that's coming back in style for some reason in the future.
Oh, no.
Yes.
My time present cat is next to me, by the way.
No, he was born in this year.
But what I wanted to say was the Android and the Samsung phones are obsolete.
I think they went 10 years ago.
art bell
I knew it.
unidentified
I knew it.
art bell
The Android was going to go obsolete.
I knew it.
unidentified
Absolutely.
Sorry.
At the time traveler, can I make a request also for something I would love for you to talk about?
art bell
You may.
unidentified
Yes, you may.
You had this gentleman on, which was a great interview talking about the internet and anonymous.
art bell
Oh, yes.
unidentified
And all I got is two words for you, Art.
Two words.
And this, to me, it's the kicker, and it's still alive and rampant here in the future.
The dark web.
The dark web online, which is, I'm not sure if you know about the dark web or not.
art bell
I presume the internet is still alive and well.
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
Good.
unidentified
But the dark web in your time is you can't access it only by proxy.
art bell
If you want to live.
unidentified
Oh, yes.
Mankind, as we all know, there's some dark, evil people in mankind.
And the dark web, you have to access by property.
And a few years back in the year 2011, there was a website called the Silk Road.
Do you remember that?
art bell
I heard of the Silk Road, yes.
unidentified
Yes.
And that is one example of the dark web.
Basically, the drugs of society using the Internet for every wrong reason.
Right.
art bell
Very dangerous.
unidentified
And I just want to say the deepest, darkest things you can imagine on the Internet.
art bell
You said you're now in 2034, is that correct?
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
art bell
So in 2034, I would imagine the Internet is still alive and really well.
unidentified
It's, guess what?
The cable companies, they've been busted on their head because of streaming.
So the Internet is really well.
I think that's the only thing that's pretty much advanced.
We don't have any flying cars.
We still have bottled water.
art bell
What, what, what, what, what?
No flying cars?
unidentified
No.
art bell
You know, that is such a busted promise to humanity.
unidentified
But Crystal Pepsi is back.
Crystal?
Really?
art bell
I have a friend who will be really hot to hear about that.
He's a Pepsi nut.
unidentified
And I'm not sure about interdimensions or anything like that.
But the furthest we have gone in the future was actually to 2091.
2091.
2091.
That's what I've ever thought to think about.
art bell
Is there anything memorable from 2091 that you could tell us about?
unidentified
I got one thing.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
Water cars.
Cars that are running on water.
art bell
You know, it might happen.
It really might happen.
All right, my friend.
Thank you for the call.
I got one more.
unidentified
One more thing.
art bell
Sure.
unidentified
One more thing.
Sure.
Sure.
Art Bell, Mr. Art Bell, is a legend in all of these years.
And nobody, in the future, everybody has forgotten about that other show.
And they worship you as the king of late night radio.
So, from the future, take care, my friend.
art bell
All right.
Thank you very much.
Yeah, well.
You know, I do have one thing to say.
Apparently, some of you have been going over to the others'website and writing things and getting banned.
Don't do that.
It's not necessary.
I thank you for the feelings that, you know, I began to see on my Facebook today that people were saying they were getting banned from that other place.
So, you know, it's not worth it.
That's all right.
Let's go somewhere, I think, outside the country.
Say hello.
You are on Midnight.
unidentified
Hi, Art.
How are you?
art bell
Oh, it's jazz.
unidentified
Hey, Art.
How are you going?
art bell
I'm going quite well.
How are you, Jazz?
unidentified
Fantastic.
art bell
Now, this, everybody, you should know who you're listening to.
This is Jazz Munda.
He is the guy who produced most of, and that's a fair comment, most of the incredible trailers that, I don't know, it's like, I guess it's like somebody who, I looked at him and I said, this has got to be a guy from, you know, a movie company.
I mean, you do work in the industry, right?
unidentified
No, not at all.
I'm just a very big fan of yours, Art, and it was just a thank you to you and for the 20 years of entertainment you have given us.
art bell
Jazz, how do you do it?
How do you do it?
unidentified
I don't know.
It's just a hidden talent, I guess.
art bell
You answer like the guy from maybe Unanimous, Anonymous, excuse me.
So, really, how do you do it?
I mean, there must be...
i look at those things i think no this is it looks like something i i just saw for a recent movie promotion so there's got to be a secret to it what software do you use i was just using iMac iMovie on my Mac.
unidentified
I listened to a lot of classic shows of yours.
I found the appropriate images to go along with it, and I just put it together.
art bell
Well, all I can say is thank you, buddy.
They were over the top cool.
unidentified
Thank you.
Thank you.
I appreciate that.
art bell
So now that we have open lines, what is on your Aussie mind?
unidentified
So I have a little story for you about one of your favorite topics, and that is red eyes.
art bell
Oh, well.
unidentified
I know how much you love red eyes.
art bell
Yeah, don't call it a favorite topic.
I really don't like red eyes.
Glowing red eyes are creepy.
Anyway, go ahead.
unidentified
A few weeks ago, my daughter came running into my bedroom in the middle of the night, and she was screaming that there was a monster in her room.
So, you know, I bolt upright in the bed, and I try to calm her down, and I try to usher her back to her room.
And when we're on the way down the hall, she sort of says to me, the monster had red eyes.
And I stopped dead in my tracks because I graduated from the Art Bell School of the Paranormal.
So I know that red eyes are bad news.
And I didn't want to shatter any illusions that my daughter might have that I'm some indestructible superhero.
So I bravely soldier on and continue on to her bedroom.
So I open the door, I enter the pitch dark room, and as I gaze towards the closets, I think I actually let out an audible yelp, and my heart just absolutely sank because staring across at the other end of the room were two little red eyes.
Well, Art, if I wasn't frozen in place with fear, I would have turned tail and bolted and left my daughter for dead to defend for herself.
But then I realized that we didn't have an encounter with a red-eyed Monster and fortunately for my daughter and I, the red-eyes belonged to the little oil heater that we had bought for her the week before.
So, look, I might not have actually had the experience of having a red-eyed monster, but I certainly got the fright and the fear that would come along with an encounter such as that.
art bell
The part that got me is you might have run and left your daughter for dead of Munda.
Buddy, thank you.
I gotta go.
unidentified
Goodbye.
Bye.
art bell
Left her for dead.
unidentified
Aye, aye, aye.
art bell
Red glowing eyes.
No, thank you.
This is Midnight in the Desert.
I'm Arcel.
Open Line.
unidentified
Whatever you want to do.
art bell
Bring it on.
unidentified
We'll be right back.
We'll be right back.
We will, we will rock you.
We will, we will rock you.
Come on, men and women, Skypop.
Call Midnight in the Desert at MITD51.
That's MITD51.
art bell
And if you're outside the country, you're going to want to call MITD55.
It's really easy.
MITD 55.
So wherever you are in the world, we want to hear from you.
And that's the way to do it.
Just Skype up and hit us at MITD55.
In the meantime, let's try again.
Pretty good luck so far, actually, on the time traveler line routed through Roswell, New Mexico, I might add.
This is midnight, and you're on.
unidentified
You should be on.
art bell
Now, you're on.
unidentified
Hello.
Hello, Hart.
My name is Mr. Smith.
art bell
Mr. Smith, how original?
unidentified
I know.
art bell
That's fine.
I will accept that, Mr. Smith.
You really are a time traveler?
unidentified
Yes, sir, 2085.
art bell
2085!
You could sort of sympathize then with some of the stuff that the guy from 2091 said.
unidentified
No, different timeline.
art bell
Oh.
Also, in other words, you don't just travel in time, but a different timeline.
unidentified
Yes, sir.
art bell
That's really something.
Okay.
So what can you tell me about 2085?
I mean, people want to know.
I want to know.
unidentified
Well, it's not good.
The UN has, because of a population disappearance of 3%, the UN has started a census program, and all members of the UN have to be tagged.
art bell
All members of the UN have to be tagged?
unidentified
You mean like birds get tagged?
Member states.
art bell
Member states.
And 3% of the population disappears?
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
Are you talking about, for example, 3% of the totality of the number in 2015 are gone by your year?
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
Can you tell me why?
What happened?
unidentified
No one knows.
art bell
Well, that's an interesting answer.
Nobody knows.
unidentified
They're still trying to figure out.
But in the meantime, all the countries organize under the United Nations to try to get things organized, but it's turned into a fascist state.
art bell
You mean the United Nations is fascist?
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
I've never much liked them.
And a lot of people in the U.S. have never much liked them.
And they never, frankly, had much power back here in 2015.
So you're telling me by 2085, the United Nations has pulled it together, sort of, and now is powerful?
unidentified
Yes, because of the disappearances.
World isn't chaos.
art bell
Are you suggesting that the United Nations is responsible for the disappearances?
unidentified
Some think they are.
Some think it's extraterrestrial.
They just don't know.
art bell
Figure to try to blame it on the ETs.
In the year 2085, have we yet established contact with ETs?
unidentified
There was a radio signal confirmed, but nothing since the radio signal just before the disappearances.
art bell
That's kind of depressing.
We had the WOW signal, and you're saying there was a radio signal.
Was it actually verified as being ET?
unidentified
Not that signal.
There was a one around 2075.
art bell
2075.
Man, that's a long wait.
Okay.
Is there any downside to traveling in time?
I mean, for example, I would like to ask, you got to 2085, but from what year?
unidentified
I am from 2085.
art bell
Oh, so but you said you're a time traveler.
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
So, yeah, I understand you're in 2085 at the moment.
unidentified
No, here.
art bell
I beg your pardon?
unidentified
2015 here now.
art bell
2015, yes.
So you're back here, what?
Slumming?
unidentified
No, to organize resistance against the United Nations to look the list of people that we know are still there.
art bell
Oh, so you literally need an army to fight the UN.
unidentified
Yeah, their future to send their future, their task relative, you know, the set up supplies and stuff like that.
art bell
Right.
so what happened to individual nations' sovereignty, if I can ask?
unidentified
There was a world crisis.
art bell
And the UN used that crisis to sort of take charge?
unidentified
Yes.
Wow.
art bell
Okay.
You're giving me some information that is surprising me.
Can I ask you by what method you're able to travel in time?
unidentified
No, I can't.
You can't.
art bell
Okay.
Is there anything else that you really want to get?
unidentified
I can't tell you.
It is mechanical, not physical or spiritual or anything like that.
art bell
All right.
If you were to describe the method, the mechanical method you used to travel in time, would that be a problem?
In other words, would you cause some kind of ripple that would, I don't know what it would do, frankly.
unidentified
Tell you the truth, I'm just the scientist.
art bell
All right.
All right.
So you're more of a soldier.
unidentified
Not a soldier per se.
How about a recruiter?
The militias of today would be more like it.
art bell
Militias of today.
All right.
Well, thank you very, very much for the call.
Think about that.
Imagine that.
At least he's innovative.
Now, we have no way of knowing if he's really a time traveler, but he could be.
He very well could be.
It could be.
There's lots of time travelers out there.
So when people make these claims, and he sounded at least serious, that's plausible.
I mean, don't governments always use crisis to take charge?
When there's some great crisis, suddenly there is what?
Some kind of martial law, some sort of somebody to take charge.
So if the world really got out of control, I suppose the UN could make its bid, right?
It's definitely a possibility.
Let's try Skype.
Sean, you're on midnight.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
Hi, Art.
Thank you for having me on the show.
art bell
Sure thing.
unidentified
And yeah, this is actually a very interesting program.
I remember listening to you on the other network years and years ago.
In fact, I might, keyword being might, if I can ever go through my minidisc collection, be able to find a snippet of a program I have on minidisc.
art bell
You have to say it a certain way if you're going to say it.
You say the other network.
unidentified
Yes, the other network.
Or to make it a little bit more effective, the other network.
art bell
Oh, man, that knocked me back in my seat.
unidentified
Yes, I have a reverb control.
I'm not afraid to use it.
But anyway, yes, I will say, though, speaking of all this time travel stuff, it's interesting stuff to me because I am not a time traveler.
At least I don't think I am so far as I know.
art bell
I'm upset that you know what upset me so far?
unidentified
What?
art bell
Phones getting thicker.
unidentified
Yeah, personally, I think the first guy, I don't think, we are not going to see phones getting thicker so far as I can tell.
I don't think that's going to happen.
art bell
Well, people always say that, right?
It's never going to happen.
People make predictions.
We're going to have flying cars.
You heard what he said about that.
unidentified
Right.
art bell
That's still a broken promise.
unidentified
Well, I think of it this way.
If you follow Doctor Who at all, there is a quote from Doctor Who that I actually think applies incredibly well to stuff when you're dealing with time, and that is, and I'm probably going to butcher it horribly, so my apologies to any Whovians that are listening.
Time may appear to be a linear progression of cause and effect, but when viewed from a non-linear perspective, it's really just a big ball of wibbly, wobbly, timey-wimey stuff.
art bell
Timey, whimy stuff.
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
And how long did that take you to cook up timey-wimey stuff?
unidentified
Yeah.
That was whoever invented the quote.
I will not take credit for that.
That is whoever threw that quote out there in Doctor Who Land.
art bell
You know, obviously I'm having some fun with all this, but I actually think there are time travelers out there.
unidentified
I'm not saying there aren't.
I'm also saying, like, I don't know.
See, the thing about me is I have had weird experiences involving time, you know?
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
Weird experiences.
I don't know how I do this.
I'm going to try to keep this as brief as I can, and I'm apologizing if I'm not able to.
I have, since about, I don't know, a certain number of years ago, because I don't really want to give my age out or anything.
That's fine.
I have had instances where I will go to sleep, I'll wake up, and then I'll drift off to sleep, and I'll kind of, I'll hit a certain state somehow that it's like I'm half asleep, I'm half awake or something.
I don't really know how to explain this.
But in that state, I've been able to catch glimpses of future events.
Events specifically like regarding me.
But it's nothing actually useful.
art bell
Well, I don't care.
Useful or not, are they events that come true?
unidentified
They usually are, but here's the weird thing.
If I try to actually think about them and decode them consciously, they break.
It's a bit like playing with string.
art bell
What do you mean?
They really break.
unidentified
Like, for example, a good example of this is actually like, for example, if I have a vision, let's say, of somebody saying something about their father was being, you know, a not-so-good person that day or something.
And I think, oh, well, I'm going to have that happen at my school.
And in reality, I was reading something online and the thing happened at home.
so it's sort of like I tried to think of, like, oh, when is this going to happen?
Right.
art bell
Well, that's, you know, that's listen, thank you for the call.
That's really just precognition.
And it's real.
I've had this, I had a precognition experience, and I've got to tell you, there was no question about it.
I mean, it wasn't, you know, maybe this happened or anything like that.
This was like a brick hitting your head.
Now, see, I've got to tell her.
I'll tell it very quickly.
I was living at the time in Santa Barbara.
I'm sure many of you have heard this, so I'm sorry.
Sitting, I came home from work, working, of course, at a radio station in Santa Barbara.
I had a little garden apartment with a sliding door, you know, that looked outside.
And I parked my car outside the apartment on the street.
And I sat down to watch the evening news.
I've always been and still am a news junkie.
The news came on, and suddenly, and by the way, the curtains were closed, the door was closed, suddenly an overwhelming thing hit me like a wave breaking over me.
Your car's going to get hit.
Your car is in trouble.
Your car's going to get hit.
So I said a bad word, and I got up, and let me answer this one and keep you on hold there.
If you hear audio, that means you're going to be getting on the air.
So hang in there.
I went over to the window, opened the curtain, looked out, saw my car.
It was fine.
I said another bad word, closed the curtain, went back, sat down, watched the news.
Well, here comes a wave again.
You're going to get hit.
Your car's going to get hit.
Your car's going to get hit.
Said another bad word.
I do say them, by the way.
Got back up, went over, opened the curtains.
This time, opened the door and stood there and watched my car, which, by the way, I cared a lot about.
As I watched my car, a guy came down, went down the sidewalk from our building toward my car, didn't get in my car, got in his car, which was in front of it, backed up and hit my car while I watched.
Let me tell you, it freaked me out so badly, I fell to my knees, actually fell to my knees, but had enough, got myself going quick enough to get up and say, hey, I saw that.
He said, I'm stopping, I'm stopping.
But I mean, this was not a maybe, it was a warning.
This was ignore it and you die kind of warning.
So these precognitive things are indeed possible.
All right, let's go back to the lines.
On my time traveler line through Roswell, New Mexico, you are on midnight.
unidentified
Oh, how awesome is this?
Hello, Art.
art bell
Pretty awesome, actually.
Hi there.
unidentified
Hi.
I go by Wise Frog Online, but my name is Paul.
And presently, I'm in Ohio.
art bell
Okay, Paul.
unidentified
And yes, I'm a time traveler.
I don't need a device to go anywhere.
art bell
You can do this, how?
unidentified
I do this basically at will.
As I've stated before on different radio shows, all you need to do is just make a doorway using whatever your ASMA or whatever projective device that you can use.
You step into the moment, and then you step out wherever it is that you want to go.
art bell
Very cool.
So you can project yourself, I assume, into the past or the future?
unidentified
I can go into the past and the future.
I can take anything I want with me.
Usually I use my motorcycle.
I can have anybody with me that I want.
Most people are too scared to do this.
But I've got a few people that do go from time to time with me to places like the Civil War.
art bell
The Civil War?
unidentified
Like to 2036, 2034.
art bell
Wow.
All right, Paul.
A number of questions come to mind.
And the first is, if you're really able to do this, is there any danger in it?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
For example, if I'm on my motorcycle and I need to know the terrain back or in the future or in the present or in the past, I need to know the terrain because, like, for example, in Tulio, Ohio, we've got the Erie Canal.
And if I'm on, what is it, Erie Street, the Anthony Wayne Trail, if I'm going down the Anthony Wayne Trail and I go 150 years in the past, well, the Anthony Wayne Trail was the Erie Canal.
art bell
You're not telling me you get up the cojones to actually shift in time while you're riding your motorcycle.
Is that what you're saying?
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
You're out of your time travel and mind.
unidentified
I've done it with people on the back of my bike.
art bell
My God, that's dangerous.
unidentified
It's fun.
art bell
Well, I asked you if there was danger.
I mean, you've cooked up your own danger.
You do that, and you're liable to end up in the water.
You're liable to end up in the middle of a building or anything.
unidentified
A tree.
I could wrap around anything.
Yeah.
So you do need to be careful.
art bell
Well, heck yeah.
All right.
Tell me something about either the past or the future that is interesting.
unidentified
Well, one of the times that I went back into the Civil War, I ended up down south.
I was in Mississippi.
I was down there for like three weeks.
I had taken a girl down there with me.
And we played the whole Doctor Who scenario because that was like really fun.
But people thought we were out of our minds.
But they believed it because I had a motorcycle.
Well, that motorcycle, I ended up burning the plugs up because I was using Moonshine to run my bike.
They melted my bike.
They melted my bike down for metal so that they would have guns.
They didn't care.
They just melted the bike down.
art bell
They turned your bike into guns?
unidentified
They turned my bike into guns.
art bell
All right.
Well, different than plow chairs, I guess.
Paul, you're not the guy who's got the picture of himself back in the Civil War, are you?
Or are you?
unidentified
I couldn't tell you.
art bell
About Civil War.
Well, I'm telling you, there is a guy who claims he's a time traveler, and he claims he's actually got a picture of himself in the Civil War.
Of course, you know, at that time he's a kid.
unidentified
Yeah, and I think, well, one of the things when you go back to the Civil War is that if you don't understand how people are talking back then, then they're sure not going to understand you because you need to speak the same way.
And for a little kid to suddenly get thrown into something like the Civil War, he's not going to understand anything that's going on.
People are going to think he's crazy, that they're disrespectful.
And they're just going to shoot the boy on his way.
art bell
Did you have a favored side in the war?
unidentified
No, I didn't.
I tried to stay as neutral as I could.
art bell
Probably a good idea.
unidentified
Well, yeah, I would have ended up getting myself shot.
art bell
You don't know anything about cell phones getting thicker in the future, do you?
unidentified
Cell phones don't get thicker in the future.
Cell phones become, oh, well, basically, they're more like implants.
art bell
Well, we have quite a disparity here between yourself and the other claimed time traveler.
unidentified
I heard.
But Art, you know what?
I can prove this, and I can prove it with anybody.
If you wanted to get on the back of my bike, I know you wouldn't.
I'd get a sidecar.
Or we'll do it in a car.
I'd do it with you in a car.
art bell
Well, a car is a little bit safer, but I mean, even then, somebody could have dug a giant hole and we could just be walking on your bike down the street.
Yeah, I'm not getting on your bike.
No way.
unidentified
Okay, that's fine.
art bell
All right, so I'll tell you what.
You contact me privately.
Email, something like that, okay?
And if you really can do what you say, we'll take a ride.
unidentified
Want to take a ride?
art bell
Yes, indeed.
All right.
Well, listen, thank you very much for the call.
On my time traveler line, they're all ringing.
Everything in here is lit up like a Christmas tree.
Remember, Art Bell51, that's my Twitter, Art Bell51.
Maybe toward the bottom of the hour, I'm going to go on Periscope.
This is Midnight.
unidentified
Midnight.
Transcription by CastingWords I'm riding in your car.
You turn on the radio.
You're pulling me close.
I just say no.
I say I don't like it.
But you know I'm a liar.
I'm going to be kidding.
Take a walk on the wild side of midnight from the Kingdom of Nigh.
This is Midnight in the Desert with Art Bear.
Please call the show at 1-952-225-5278.
That's 1-952.
Call Art Time.
art bell
It's got a little hit in its giddy app there.
All right, so that is the public number, 952-225-5278.
Time Travelers, which, frankly, seem to abound, come to us through Roswell.
That's right, through Roswell.
The number to call, if you're a real-time traveler, 575-208-7787.
575-208-7787.
And if you're overseas, all you've got to do is Skype us, M-I-T-D-55.
M-I-T-D-55.
Let's go to Wayne, Michigan, and say, yo, you're on here, midnight.
unidentified
Oh, what a pleasure.
Mike, from Michigan.
art bell
Yes, welcome.
unidentified
It was great that you're back for number one.
And thank you.
art bell
Are you familiar with John D. Wells?
Yes, of course.
unidentified
Oh, great.
Is there any chance that we may get an interview in the future with you and Mr. Wells?
art bell
I don't know.
Anything could happen, I guess.
John's a good guy, and he, too, is an alumni, so to speak.
unidentified
Well, he speaks very highly of you.
I'm a member of his program, and I will soon be a member of your program also.
art bell
Well, thank you.
Yes, I think very highly of John as well.
And as I mentioned, we're both alumni.
So, yeah, there you are.
unidentified
You know, you've started so many of these radio programs that I listen to.
It's amazing.
What happened with the whole series, the XM?
And you were on, and then you were off, and then we're going to go ahead and do that.
Yes.
art bell
All right.
Talk a little bit about that.
I will talk about that.
Thank you.
And thank you for calling.
Okay, so yeah, I'll try to make it quick and simple.
It's not quick and simple at all.
But basically, uh when I went there, they said, Well we have international coverage and uh of course they they don't really uh if you have a credit card and a US address, you can probably get in from some other country, otherwise no.
So that that wasn't so.
And then they what really did it was they had trouble with their streaming.
And so many of my people were coming from the broadcast world that they subscribed to the streaming service.
And the streaming service was, even they acknowledged, having some difficulty and people were getting cut off and all kinds of stuff was going on.
And so I said, this isn't working for me because my people are coming from broadcast and they went to the streaming.
It's not working.
Or it's not working well.
So it came down to an ultimatum.
That's when I said, I'm all in.
And I said, look, allow us to stream for free only until you fix it.
When you fix it, then we're right back where we started from, as Miss Nightingale would say.
But they said no.
They said no.
And that's how we broke up.
So I hope that fills it in for some of you out there.
We're very short on time, but in Phoenix, Arizona, you're on midnight.
unidentified
Hi.
Good evening.
This is John.
I'm actually in Eatonville, Washington.
art bell
Really?
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
Extinguish your device.
unidentified
Just did, sir.
art bell
Excellent.
Proceed.
unidentified
Want to take a ride?
Oh, yeah, baby.
art bell
We're on a ride.
All right.
unidentified
All right.
I got one story for you.
I was driving home from work down at Phoenix, Arizona.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
I'm in a conversion van and decided to call my wife at home.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
And just, you know, touch base before getting there.
And I started smelling pickles in the whole van.
It smelled like vinegar.
It smelled like pickles.
And it was just inundating.
Really?
So, yeah, so I'm talking to my wife on the phone and I tell her.
And she says, you're not going to believe this, but I've just dropped a one-gallon glass jar of pickles from Costco in the kitchen.
art bell
Yeah, well, that would do it.
So nothing paranormal about that.
unidentified
Nothing.
All right, so that's just connected.
Anyway, it's great to have you.
I'm one of those people that love to hear you on the radio.
I've been listening forever, and you've captured it, man.
You're riding the wave.
You've conquered it.
It's good to hear it.
art bell
Thank you, buddy.
Take care.
unidentified
I got to go.
art bell
our on break.
unidentified
Bye-bye.
leo ashcraft
For Dark Matter News, I'm Rio Ashcrowds.
A breakthrough in space warp-based propulsion appears to have been made by a physicist in Omaha using a do-it-yourself-made apparatus built in his garage.
University of Nebraska at Omaha professor David Perez has built and apparently demonstrated a device that appears to compress the very fabric of space-time, of which is considered the holy grail of sci-fi, faster-than-light propulsion methods, such as Star Trek's warp drive.
Using observations made by pilot Bruce Gernan's encounter with an unexplained meteorological phenomenon in the Bermuda Triangle in 1970, Pears set out to replicate the conditions of the odd storm, including an apparent propulsive effect on the aircraft, albeit a smaller scale that could be replicated in a laboratory.
While the effects of the device are subtle, PERES has demonstrated that it is causing compression effects on a laser beam that was affected by the device's electric field, such as a red shift in the beam's wavelength.
The device has been able to generate movement in a 3.5-pound weight and can apparently cause movement in other non-magnetic objects.
Despite his apparent success with the device, PERES isn't optimistic about the scientific community taking notice of his work.
He said if NASA did what we did and had the measurements we have today, they'd be parading them around and getting the Nobel Prize in Physics.
A cataract is the clouding of the eye's lens and accounts for over half of all cases of blindness worldwide.
Though cataracts can be effectively treated with surgery, it's costly and requires trained surgeons.
This is a problem for developing countries with poor health systems.
Drug treatments have the potential to be a game changer in providing cheap and accessible treatment.
But there are many hurdles.
A new study that used eye drops to shrink cataracts in dogs may have made an important step in overcoming them.
They've developed eye drops that contain lanostrol as a drug treatment for cataracts.
To test whether the eye drops could reduce cataracts, researchers isolated lenses from rabbits that had cataracts and placed them in a lanostrol solution for six days.
They found that this reduced the cataract severity and increased lens clarity.
But the solution only lasted a few months, so the cataracts are likely to have reoccurred after the drops stopped.
Eye drops will likely become a key in treating cataracts as surgery will not be able to cope with the growing needs of the world's aging population.
This is Dark Matter News.
Crews have put out a fire that burned underground in southern New Jersey for a month, melting the ground around it and reaching 1,000 degrees.
It began when a power line snapped following a storm, sending electricity into the ground and igniting a mixture of coal and cinder used as the foundation for train tracks in a wooded area.
The mayor says neighbors called authorities when they saw smoke coming from the ground.
Firefighters went to the scene seven times over a month before the county and state officials finally were able to put it out.
There have been numerous reports around the country of creepy clowns running around cemeteries and city streets scaring people.
A recent incident occurred in Chicago with one of these nocturnal clowns earlier this month.
She caught it on cell phone video.
The video shows a person dressed in a clown suit trespassing in historic Rose Hill Cemetery in the dead of night.
The victim says she was freaked out at the figure as it ran towards the main gate.
She and her husband were driving by at 10 p.m.
The first picture her husband snapped was the clown scaling the seven-foot-tall gate at the Ravenswood Avenue entrance.
The feat is no easy task, especially for someone wearing a clown suit.
Officials don't know what to Make of this because other than the trespass, there are no complaints of vandalism.
It got weirder.
When the victim and her husband hung around to get a better look, the clown was not deterred or afraid.
He waved slowly at the couple.
Incidents like this aren't isolated.
A video of creepy clowns surprising people in the streets of California went viral last year.
In New York, a clown was seen making a daytime excursion last year while holding some balloons.
Chicago police say there have been no other bizarre clown sightings.
I'm Leo Ashcraft for Dark Matter News.
unidentified
Dark Matter News.
We don't need no education.
We don't need no thoughts control.
No dogs dog and classroom is alone.
Yeah Hey, ginger, leave me alone This is midnight in the desert.
To call the show if you're east of midnight.
Call 1-952.
Call Art.
If you're west of midnight, call 1-952-225-5278.
art bell
Was that clear?
It wasn't, really, was it?
Try it again.
unidentified
This is midnight in the desert.
To call the show if you're east of midnight.
Call 1-952-Call Art.
If you're west of midnight, call 1-952-225-5278.
art bell
All right, there is a slim possibility that I'm on Periscope now.
Now, if you've joined me, I'm Art Bell51.
That's Art Bell51.
In any case, I think.
Lowercase, I suppose.
A-R-T-B-E-L-L 51.
And if you're joining me on Twitter, then you have been notified that I'm on Periscope.
And maybe, let me do a refresh.
I've asked somebody to go up there and tell me.
Oh, I'm live on Periscope.
Thank you very much.
Cold War said, Dave said, Glenn said, Hans said, Marlene said.
Oh, a lot of people said.
Well, they're looking at me.
And so that's weird.
It is kind of creepy.
Let's go to, I don't know, let's go overseas somewhere and say, Jeff, wherever you are, you're on midnight.
unidentified
Hey, Art Bell, how you doing, man?
art bell
I'm doing okay.
Where are you?
Actually, I'm in Dallas, Texas.
Oh, man, you're on the wrong line.
unidentified
Oh, man.
art bell
I'm sorry.
Can you talk to me?
Yeah, no, I can't.
That's against the rules.
I'm sorry.
Xavier, you're on midnight.
Hello?
unidentified
Art.
Yes.
It's great to hear you, sir.
Welcome back to the airwaves.
art bell
Extinguish your device, please.
unidentified
And that is done.
art bell
All right.
Where are you?
unidentified
I am in Florida, sir.
Oh, Xavier.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Did I trick the system in?
art bell
You did.
Just for overseas only.
unidentified
I'm sorry for tricking the system in.
art bell
Okay, well, you didn't trick it because I can't hold on to you.
I'm sorry.
You're going to have to call the North American line, as did Donna.
And let me see if I can get Donna on.
Donna, hi.
unidentified
Hello, Art.
art bell
Hey.
unidentified
Long time no talk to you.
art bell
I'm very glad you called.
Where are you?
unidentified
I'm in Arizona, about two miles north of the Mexican border.
art bell
Oh, okay.
You could have almost used my international.
Anyway.
unidentified
Yeah, but I wouldn't do that to you.
I'm going to take you back in time.
I'm not going to time travel.
Okay.
In 1986, in October 31st, I called into you and related a ghost story.
art bell
Oh?
Okay, well, that doesn't resonate yet.
Of course, as you know, I had many ghost stories, right?
unidentified
Right.
But I used to live in a small town called Fowler, California, home of the Dancing Raisins.
art bell
The Dancing Raisins?
unidentified
And we discussed the fact that there was a certain president that hated the little dancing raisins.
art bell
You know, there's also people who hate the screaming lady.
Do you know who I'm talking about?
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
Anyway, Dancing Raisins.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Right.
But I told you a story about Lost Lake, which is just outside of Fresno, California.
art bell
Okay.
unidentified
And there was a ghost story about some woman had drowned in the lake, and if you pulled your car too close to the lake, she would come up and scratch on the back of your car.
Which is a teenager we thought was funny.
Really?
Until it happened to us.
art bell
Exactly.
Yeah, that kind of thing is really funny, I guess, if you're watching it happen to somebody else.
But if it happens to you, it's like the screaming lady.
unidentified
Yeah, there was a lot of screaming people in the car.
art bell
I'm sure.
So she scratched.
Did she get in?
unidentified
No, she didn't get in, but she left marks on the back of the car, which we had to explain to the young man's parents.
art bell
I bet that went well.
unidentified
Yeah, they said, oh, no, you guys scratched it.
So we're going to make all of you pay for it.
art bell
Probably said more than that.
Probably said, what were you doing parked in the first place?
unidentified
Well, yeah, that was everyone's parents' question.
art bell
Yeah, that's right.
It's beginning to be mine, and my daughter's only eight.
unidentified
There you go.
You have a lot more to look forward to when she hits the teenage years.
art bell
Oh, I know, and she is so pretty.
How am I ever going to.
Anyway, so is that the end of the story that you had to explain the scratches and then pay?
unidentified
Well, I didn't have to pay, but the guys had to pay.
art bell
It's always better.
How come it works that way?
How come the guys always have to pay?
unidentified
You're usually the ones with jobs.
art bell
Well, it used to be that way, but now we live in this age of equality in paying, too.
unidentified
Well, but you guys always make more money.
art bell
Well, see, that may not be true anymore, honestly.
Donna, in our day when we were young, yeah, true.
But today, I'm telling you, there's a lot of gals that make way more than guys.
unidentified
Yeah, that's true.
That's very true.
All right.
art bell
Well, Donna, thank you very, very much for the call.
It was a pleasure.
And take care.
All right.
Remember, MITD55 is for overseas.
Let's go to British Columbia.
You are on the air.
It's midnight.
unidentified
Hi.
Hi, Arch.
art bell
Hello.
Extinguish device, please.
unidentified
Done.
art bell
I still hear it.
unidentified
David, I got it off.
Okay, David.
I'm watching you on Periscope right now.
Are you?
Yep.
I saw you waving.
I'm calling from Nanamo, British Columbia, Canada.
Yes.
Very, very happy to see you back on the Air Arts.
art bell
Well, thank you.
You know what?
I can probably make it look better in here.
Let me turn out this light and then increase my backlight if I know anything about photography and I don't know much.
Now, I've changed that.
unidentified
Does that sort of change the view a little bit?
You know, what's odd is you're delayed on there.
You're delayed more online.
Like, I am a time traveler as far as being subscribed to your show.
When I'm listening to your show, you're delayed more than Periscope, but you are delayed on Periscope as well, but not too much.
Actually, you look better with the light off.
It just turned off now.
art bell
Okay, that's what I was asking.
I know with photography, generally, you want backlight, right?
unidentified
Yeah, no, that looks better just like that.
art bell
Okay, cool.
Anyway, what is on your mind?
unidentified
Are you going to have a weekend host?
We'd love to see you bring George Knapp aboard.
art bell
Well, we're going to have weekend shows.
Now, you know where George is, right?
And George, you know, has a really big job with Channel 8 in Las Vegas, and he really can't do any more.
So I think the odds are pretty much against it, much as even I love George Knapp.
So, well, love is a strong word.
I respect George Knapp, and I'd love to have him here.
So, George, if you're listening and you want to come, invites open, buddy.
unidentified
Awesome, awesome.
Hey, I was on your last show.
I was called for the Ghost to Ghost show.
And I was called away, and my wife was trying to get a hold of me, and my cell phone was ringing, and I was in a place that I couldn't go.
I sure hope that you're going to do Ghost to Ghost again this year.
art bell
We're going to do, now listen to me, we're going to do Ghost to Ghost digital.
unidentified
Ghost to Ghost Digital.
Well, I will be submitting my story again, definitely.
art bell
All right.
I will be listening.
Definitely.
Thank you very, very much for the call.
Take care.
And what I'm going to do, I hardly know what I'm doing, is go to my time traveler line and say you're on midnight.
Hello.
Hello?
Going once.
unidentified
Hello?
Yes.
Hello.
Hello.
Yes.
art bell
You want a kiss?
What?
unidentified
This is Theodore.
art bell
Speak.
unidentified
Can you hear me?
Yes.
Oh, hello.
Is this?
Oh, my God.
Arbel.
Yes.
I'm a time traveler.
King Zach just to hear you.
I got through.
Well, this device here, I get this device not working right.
It's supposed to calibrate for the portal of the planet for me to walk through.
art bell
All right, so you really are.
You're a time traveler, right?
unidentified
Yeah, I need to make sure.
What time is it?
art bell
It's 10.46 and 44 seconds mark.
unidentified
What year, though?
art bell
2015.
unidentified
I just came from the year 3126.
I'm totally lost.
art bell
3126.
God, 3126, that's way out there.
What can you tell me about 3126, please?
unidentified
Well, there's a lot of land.
art bell
A lot of land.
unidentified
There's not many buildings anymore.
We live underground.
art bell
Oh.
That's not good at all.
Why do you live underground, Praytal?
unidentified
Radiation, the sun has moved too close to the planet.
art bell
Well, I'm vaguely familiar with the planetary mechanics, and I don't know how the sun could move.
I know that NASA has been talking about moving the Earth further away from the Sun for global cooling to take place.
unidentified
Well, no, scientists were on that, but I guess the planets have moved closer to the Sun or the other way around.
It's confusing.
art bell
It would be.
unidentified
The science here is so far advanced, I guess.
art bell
Well, if any, we already, listen, in 2015, we've already got trouble with global warming.
unidentified
In 2015, where you're at?
No kidding.
art bell
Yeah, we've got a lot of trouble with global warming.
unidentified
It's been here long.
art bell
Okay, so I'm getting some weird echo.
So what else can you tell me important about 3126?
unidentified
3126?
Well, the subterranean tunnels throughout the planet have begun to collapse.
art bell
That's bad.
unidentified
And we're looking for other destinations across the world to advance our civilization.
art bell
I see.
So if you live underground, tunnels would be really important for getting from point A to point B, yes?
unidentified
Yes, exactly.
Exactly.
And the very transportation.
art bell
Yeah, we're having a little problem here.
It sounds like a terrible, terrible future.
I'm concerned.
unidentified
My time is almost up.
The portal is opening again, and I have to go through, or I'll be stuck here.
art bell
All right.
Well, You don't want that.
Thank you very much for the call.
Can you imagine a future?
Can you?
Where the world has become so dangerous in some way or the planetary alignments have become, as he suggested, so close that we have to go underground.
That's not a future I would look forward to at all.
Okay, if you're outside the country, M-I-T-D-5-5.
And that means outside North America, okay?
Outside North America only, M-I-T-D 5-5.
Scott, on Skype, you're on midnight.
Hello, Scott.
Going once for Scott.
Gee, you tried so hard to get through.
I really hate to see people not make it.
Let's try Ray.
Hello, Ray, on Skype.
You're on the air.
unidentified
Hey, Art.
It's a pleasure to finally talk to you.
art bell
Well, thank you.
unidentified
I just want to say from Oregon, a big fan and good friend of mine, Chad, who's also a big fan.
We're very happy to have you back on the air.
art bell
It's great to be here.
Are you, where in Oregon are you?
unidentified
Eugene, actually.
art bell
Eugene.
So can you hear the Mighty KXL out of Portland?
unidentified
No, I don't, but again, my buddy Chad, he is actually in Portland.
Okay.
art bell
Well, then he's listening to you right now, no doubt.
unidentified
I'm sure he is.
art bell
So what's up?
unidentified
So I have a couple things for you.
I have a story of precognition that I'd like to share and a wish list for the show, if you may.
art bell
All right.
Fire away.
unidentified
All right.
So several years ago, it was about my daughter's birthday, which is in September, and I got really, really sick.
And I mean lots of medication, down, barely cognitive of the environment around me.
art bell
Right.
unidentified
And my wife and I were talking while I was in this haze, and I made a prediction.
I said, December, I think it was 18th.
That's the first day it's going to snow.
So at least three months out.
And so we wrote it down on the calendar.
Like, well, you know, if it happens, wow, that'd be weird.
As the date approached, you know, much anxiety.
Is it going to happen?
No snow yet.
No snow yet.
That day, that morning, it started snowing.
Hmm.
art bell
Well, you know, that's once.
So it could be a happy coincidence, or you could have mental powers.
unidentified
Hey, let's not.
art bell
No, I'm serious.
So obviously you're going to try again, right?
unidentified
Well, I'm not saying that nothing like that hasn't happened before and it won't happen again, but that was one of the more spectacular ones.
Okay.
art bell
Well, all I can say is keep trying.
You know, it is spectacular.
And if you can really predict events and you see something awful coming, call us right away.
unidentified
You bet.
All right.
art bell
Thank you very much for the call.
Let's go to the time traveler line and say you are on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
Hello?
art bell
Yes, hello.
unidentified
Hi, this is Rich.
I'm in southern New Mexico.
art bell
Hi, Rich.
That's very fortunate.
Almost a local call for you.
You're coming in on a...
How about that?
You're coming in on our Roswell time traveler line, so I presume you are a time traveler, right?
unidentified
Well, I don't know for sure.
I think I had a, at least, time warp experience that was pretty interesting.
art bell
Okay, I'm not sure if warp is the same as traveler, but I guess you could be an inadvertent traveler, kind of, right?
unidentified
Right.
This has only happened to me one time, but it was pretty impressive.
art bell
All right, tell me about it.
unidentified
Okay, I got out of the Marines in 1971 and went back to the University of New Mexico and worked on a couple of archaeological field schools as a photographer and had been a geology major and decided to switch to Anthropo and was taking archaeology classes.
And one of my professors said, hey, if you would like to take a couple semesters off, I've got a job for you with the Museum of New Mexico doing survey work.
So I dropped out of school, went up to Santa Fe, and ended up on a survey of a coal mining lease up near Farmington.
It was the San Juan power plant eventually.
It's right across the river from the Four Corners power plant.
But the lease was about two miles wide, about eight miles long.
And it took us, two guys, several weeks to survey the whole thing.
We were doing this on foot.
art bell
Okay, we don't have a lot of time here, so we've got to kind of get to the center of the story.
unidentified
The guy I was working with was kind of a loose cannon, and I decided to just camp out on the least rather than go into town with him at night.
It was getting pretty dangerous.
So one night I was sleeping in my tent, and there was a full moon, and I heard all of this singing, drumbeats, and off about maybe a quarter mile or less, I could see a big campfire.
And it was up against a cliff face, and I could see shadows of people dancing, and I could even see people up on the top of the ridge in the moonlight.
This went on for two, three hours.
And at that time of year, the Navajo people have a nighttime ceremony.
It's called a squaw dance, and it's sort of Sadie Hawkins.
The girls ask the boys to dance, and you're in trouble if you say no.
Anyway, I guess 2 or 3 in the morning, maybe, things quieted down.
Well, the next morning, my partner hadn't shown up yet.
he was frequently late and so I decided to hike over and take a look at uh what what was going on uh the night before.
art bell
Okay, this story has to end pretty quick'cause the clock is all right.
unidentified
Well, uh there was a there was no tracks, no nothing, and I was standing on a on an unasuzzy ruin from about 1050 AD.
Wow.
Yeah, wow.
art bell
So you began looking around for anybody from, you know, now, right?
unidentified
Right.
Right, and the soil there was a kind of a compacted shale mostly.
Shows tracks real well, you know.
art bell
So it's like you got thrown into the past, huh?
unidentified
Yes.
And I mean, it was vivid.
art bell
I okay, such short time.
For how long did you remain there?
unidentified
That particular morning or?
art bell
That particular time, yes.
Or were you there for days and days or months or years or what?
unidentified
No.
Just a few hours.
art bell
A few hours.
And how did you snap out of it?
unidentified
Just walked back to my tent and that was the end of it.
art bell
So your tent was right where it was supposed to be?
unidentified
Yes.
It still spirits me just telling you the story.
art bell
Yeah, I'm sure.
unidentified
All right.
art bell
Thank you very much.
Can you imagine that just blasted into the past, where you can clearly see it's the past?
Oh, my.
unidentified
We'll be right back.
Take a walk on the wild side of midnight from the Kingdom of Nigh.
This is Midnight in the Desert with Art Bell.
Please call the show at 1-952-225-5278.
That's 1-952.
Call Art Bell.
That would be me.
art bell
We're doing open lines.
Anything you want to talk about is absolutely fair game.
We do have a line open for time travelers.
And that number goes, or is routed, I guess, through Roswell, New Mexico.
It's area code 575-208-7787.
And I must say we have done very well in the time traveler category.
Now, there's no way to know if, you know, if we're really talking to a time traveler or not.
But in all seriousness, I do think that time travel either is happening now.
People can actually travel in time or will be able to travel in time.
And when you talk to people like this and you question them about, you know, when they are and what's going on then, whenever then is, you get some interesting answers.
And of course, you can sort of write it down.
And if you're still alive when that year comes, I'm still bothered by this cell phone skip thicker thing.
That just can't be.
I would go with the fellow who said implants, right?
On Skype, it's how do I pronounce your name?
unidentified
Tricia.
art bell
Tricia, it is Tricia.
T-Y-S-H-A.
That's unusual.
Very unusual.
unidentified
Absolutely.
It's very nice to talk to you.
My husband's been a fan for many, many years.
art bell
Well, hello there to your husband.
Okay, you probably have a device on in the background.
That will confuse you mightily.
You need to turn it off or you won't accept.
unidentified
Let me try.
I don't know what device I have on.
It's the headphones probably.
art bell
Yeah, it'll really confuse you.
It's like 30 seconds in the past.
It's like time travel.
unidentified
Can you hear me okay now?
art bell
I can, but it's going to confuse you.
unidentified
I hear you.
I understand what you're saying.
Yeah.
Okay, so I know that you did the ghost to ghost, on the coast to coast, and I have kind of a creepy story.
Okay.
It's kind of a short and okay.
art bell
You've still got it on, don't you?
You're not going to make sense as long as you have that on in the background.
unidentified
I need to show it.
art bell
Yeah, it's going to confuse you once.
Now it's even louder.
unidentified
Can you hear me okay?
art bell
No, now I'm...
We're going to have to terminate this.
Let that...
Because of, well, the delay between here and you, it amounts to about 30 seconds.
So if you leave your device, whatever your device is, on in the background, you are going to sound so confused, you're never going to be able to tell a story.
You're never going to be able to sound like you know what you're talking about because you can't help yourself.
I'm no different.
Trust me.
If I began to hear myself 30 seconds ago, I would probably come to a dead stop.
I couldn't handle it.
So when you actually get on the air, you've got to turn that off immediately.
You've got to be prepared to turn it off immediately.
We have a time Traveler.
Hello there.
You are on midnight.
unidentified
Hello there, Mr. Bell.
How are you tonight?
art bell
I'm doing okay, sir.
unidentified
Well, I'm a time traveler, and I must say, I've been listening for a while, and a lot of these guys, when you ask them about the science, it's kind of interesting because none of them can really answer the science behind it.
art bell
But I do understand why that could be.
If they were to actually give away the kind of science that they would have to give away to satisfy me, they might cause some sort of terrible ripple effect in time because we could suddenly make a machine.
But nevertheless, if you are going to give us the science, then go ahead.
unidentified
Well, here's the deal.
Here's how this works.
Okay.
Are you familiar with the spooky extra net of distance?
Yes.
Okay.
Now.
Quantum entanglement.
Yes, yes, yes.
Now, back in the year, well, several years from now, and I'm Michael Spire, the young scientist that comes up with this.
We launch a probe to the sun and we throw some particles up at the sun, and those particles instantaneously charge our batteries or what you could call like a battery.
It's an infinite battery source.
Now, here's the biggest problem is you've got to phase gravity.
And that's the biggest thing with time travelers, phasing gravity.
And see, anybody who says there's a time traveler out there that doesn't understand the science, they're crazy because, you know, we come back, we get seeds all the time because there's a lot of things that don't grow right since all the DNA crap that they did to the plants.
So, you know, people are getting allergic to all this stuff.
Even starting now, you're starting to see some of that.
art bell
A lot of allergies this year on the desert.
Listen, what year have you traveled to or from?
unidentified
Well, I'm more like 2040.
I mean, we come, we're a group of people that collect seeds, and just by me collecting those seeds throws me into a different quantum, what you could say, a different timeline.
At least that's the way we, the easiest way you could describe it.
You know, back to the future is funny.
You know, we play clips of that, but, you know, it's not.
But it couldn't be.
I mean, you've got to remember, I mean, you're changing your work and you're phasing space and time around you.
And you've got to have an endless amount of power.
And the only place you can do that is through the sun.
And the interesting part in this, I'll leave you with this.
art bell
Don't leave me yet.
First of all, I want to know why you need the seeds.
unidentified
It bodes.
Well, you see, history repeats itself just through different things.
So like you had the big evil cigarette companies.
Now you've got the big evil.
You know, this time it's the people that are going to mess this up for at least a good 60 years.
And that's getting rid of the crap that's in all the plants.
And see, the plants, when they grow, you know, you've got these bees that pollinate them.
And when these bees are pollinating, these things are going and buzzing around and doing the things that they're supposed to be doing.
But, you know, all these chemicals are medically changing them.
They're medically changing the plants.
And then you wind up, you see, DNA is a four-bit code, okay?
It's not like a computer.
Computers today, when you guys think you've got it figured out, you're crazy.
It's four bits, okay?
And with DNA being four bits, you start monkeying with that.
Next thing you know, you've got to come back, you got to get the original thing.
And good luck.
You know, good heavens, thank Lord, we got time.
art bell
So, wait a minute.
Are you telling me that you're here to get seeds or to carry seeds?
unidentified
Yeah, we do it all the time.
We burn entire crops that get contaminated still.
Right.
So, I mean, you look at, and we don't want to mess with the bees anymore because if you mess with the bees and the bees will carry that pollen, so you can't kill the bees.
So you've got to kill crops.
And that's the only way you can keep containment.
I mean, that's the sad part.
And majority of what you have in the future because of the food crisis is nothing but farmers.
art bell
How far in the future have you gone?
unidentified
Well, I don't go into the future.
We more or less are concerned with current day survival of our families.
I mean, if you've got kids and you've got families, you understand immediately you're interested in that.
There's some people that have that to do a future event versus a past event is much harder because, you know, wherever you're going to materialize, as they call it, you've got to remember, if you don't know where you're going, you could wind up in the middle of something.
That'd be like in the middle of that ship.
What was the name of that ship that was out there?
That was that, not in Manhattan, but it was some ship that they were playing with gravity and they got it all monkey up and men were in their mind.
art bell
I think you may be talking about the Philadelphia experiment.
unidentified
There you go.
You got the nail right on the head there, sonny.
art bell
Good, good, good, good.
All right.
Well, listen, I truly appreciate your call.
I do understand that seeds in time could be a very, very important commodity, right?
If you need seeds, well, that means something pretty dire has occurred.
Let's go to.
How about Ray?
Ray, you're on the air on Skype, I hope.
unidentified
Good morning, sir.
art bell
Hi, Ray.
Where are you?
unidentified
I am in Akron, Ohio.
art bell
Akron, Ohio.
unidentified
Good.
And years ago, I was a board op for one of your affiliates.
art bell
Really?
unidentified
Yes, sir.
You and I spent a lot of nights together.
art bell
Yes, sir.
A board op is...
I'm on Periscope, so people can see.
But I kind of do everything.
You know, I answer the phones.
I take care of the music and the raw stuff and the telephones and my goodness, everything.
unidentified
Well, I am totally blind, so I won't be watching you.
Wow.
art bell
Okay, I'm very sorry.
unidentified
two reasons why I called?
art bell
Okay, Ray, but before that, how were you able to be a board op, if you don't mind my asking?
unidentified
Well, radio is primarily an aural medium.
art bell
Oh, yes.
unidentified
And back in the bad old days, we had proper analog meters.
So it was really easy to tell when the pin was getting banged.
art bell
Okay.
All right.
You said you had a couple things.
unidentified
I do.
You actually lit off my webcast on Friday evening.
art bell
I did?
unidentified
Oh, yes, but in a rather unusual way.
art bell
How did I do it?
unidentified
Oh, you snored on 3840.
art bell
it wasn't me that did that.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
I know who that was.
That was a friend of mine named Ben.
And one night he fell asleep on the microphone, keyed it, and snored on 3840.
unidentified
Yeah, but your identifier went off, and everybody thought it was you.
art bell
Well, that may well be, but it wasn't me.
unidentified
It was Ben.
art bell
Trust me, it was Ben, buddy.
And he snored for a long time.
You know what?
We had to end up calling his mother and having her wake him up.
It was a little embarrassing.
unidentified
Well, it was great fun for everybody that listened to the webcast on Friday evening, regardless of who did it.
Yeah.
art bell
Okay.
Yes.
unidentified
You had Ed Daines on years ago.
Uh-huh.
And as someone who is totally blind, I was very curious how he was able to teach or train totally blind people to remote view.
Is there any possibility that you might get him again?
art bell
Well, there's always a possibility.
But the guy owes me gold, and it's never showed up.
And until the gold gets here, I'm not sure Ed will.
unidentified
No, you might have to talk to his leprechaun about that.
art bell
All right.
All right.
unidentified
We'll listen.
We'll listen.
Oh, what a night.
Late December back in 63.
What a very special time for me.
And I remember what a night.
It's not radio, but it is what's next to get your ray of light into the darkness.
Please call 1-952.
Call part.
That's 1-952-225-5278.
That was kind of a strange experience.
art bell
Being on Periscope.
Really strange.
You know, you guys were behind me.
Very odd indeed.
Let's go overseas and say hello there.
You are on midnight.
unidentified
Good morning, Art.
art bell
Good morning.
unidentified
Richard calling from Northern Ireland.
art bell
Northern Ireland.
Hi, Richard.
What a wonderful place it must be.
unidentified
Fantastic, Art.
Fantastic.
But good to hear you back, my friend.
I've been listening to you in various ways from 1996.
Wow.
art bell
Well, it's great to have you here.
What's on your mind?
unidentified
Well, I want to tell you a story.
I'm not sure if it's a time trouble story or not, but I will tell you this story.
art bell
Okay.
unidentified
Back in the 80s, late 70s, I was earning probably more money than I should.
Am I 57, than for a person of my age?
So I was in the bar one night being the center of attraction, and I was at the bar.
art bell
Probably buying everybody drinks, huh?
unidentified
Yeah, buying everyone drinks, everyone in the bar.
And a guy slapped me in the back of the head, and I won't say it because I know children listen to this show, but he said the AH word.
Hit me in the back of the word.
And ran out the door.
Well, my hackles got up, Art, and I ran after this guy and what I was going to do to him.
And I ran and I ran, but no matter how hard I ran, Art, I couldn't catch this guy.
And at the very end of the block, two blocks up, he turned around and he looked at me.
And this guy had white hair and black glasses.
Now, I was in my 20s.
I had bright red hair.
But there was a familiarity about this guy.
art bell
So in other words, he was old and frail, and you were young and fast, and you couldn't catch him.
unidentified
Couldn't catch him.
art bell
Now, how much joy had you consumed before you tried?
unidentified
Oh, a lot of joy, Art.
Yes.
A lot of joy.
I see.
But I'm now 57, Art, and I now have pure white hair and black rim gloves.
art bell
Oh, good lord.
You chased yourself.
unidentified
Exactly.
And I don't know if it was the subconscious or warning or just something from the future warning me about my behavior.
art bell
Wow.
Well, when you looked at yourself in that moment, were you able did you know that you were looking at yourself?
unidentified
I knew there was a familiarity or what threw me was the white hair and the black glasses because I never imagined myself ever having that look.
But now looking in the mirror, I know exactly who it was.
art bell
Oh, my God.
What an experience.
And so now you at, how old are you now?
You're 57.
57.
So you now look the exact image of what you recall.
unidentified
The exact image of the person that I chased.net.
art bell
All right.
Well, joy aside, that's quite a story, my friend.
Thank you so very much.
unidentified
Good to hear you, Art.
Thank you.
Good one.
art bell
Good one.
All the way from Ireland.
unidentified
Wow.
Can you imagine that?
art bell
You're out there, you know, after a little altercation, so to speak, and you're chasing somebody, and you, of course, don't catch them, but you get a really good look and you realize you're looking at yourself.
And that is just plain freaky.
I don't know what else to call it.
Brandon on Skype, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
Hi, Art.
How are you?
art bell
That was quite a story he just told me.
I'm fine.
unidentified
I want to know what's going on with Madman Markham.
art bell
Okay.
Here's the deal.
Madman is still around.
Alive, that is to say.
I actually called him probably now a month ago, and he is preparing a warehouse for a gigantic time machine.
And so he's going to have a lot more power, a lot more voltage, and he's probably going to kill himself, to be honest with you.
And so that's all I know.
I'm free to call him, you know, pick a night, and I probably will call him and find out what's going on.
unidentified
Awesome.
Didn't he do jail time?
art bell
Well, he did, I forget, did he do jail time?
I think he might have done a little.
And, of course, I talked to his arresting officer, so the whole story was absolutely true.
Yeah, he had a pretty serious brush with the law.
unidentified
Hmm.
Okay, well, I just want to wish you Roswell's and say hello to my wife, Christine, and wish you good night.
art bell
All right.
Good night, Christine.
Take care, and thank you very much for the call.
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
He's okay for now.
How long that's going to last, I really, truly don't know.
Let's go, let's see.
Do I need to do a break or did I already do it?
I'm getting so wrapped up in these stories.
Let's go to our time traveler line and say, hello there.
You're on midnight, and you're going to have to turn off your device.
unidentified
Hello, Mr. Bell.
art bell
Hello, sir.
unidentified
Yes, I'm a time traveler.
art bell
And from what year are you?
I hear myself coming back.
That's not a good sign.
unidentified
I'm very sorry.
Give me just a moment here.
Let me turn off my device.
Yes.
I'm very sorry, sir.
Sorry.
Okay, it's off.
art bell
Okay, so what year are you from?
unidentified
It varies.
art bell
It varies?
In other words, you can go where you want to go.
unidentified
It's not my choice.
art bell
It's not?
unidentified
No.
I, uh, it's very distressing.
I am a slave to the children with black eyes.
art bell
Ah, the children with black eyes.
Now, that's something that was brought up by a lady caller not long ago.
Did you happen to hear that?
unidentified
No, sir.
art bell
And what do the children with black eyes make you do?
unidentified
I have black eyes myself now.
And they force me to travel and to do this to other people.
It is very distressing.
art bell
You sound distressed.
unidentified
Every time that it happens to me, I lose a little bit of who I used to be, Mr. Bell.
Every time they force me to time travel, I lose a little bit of myself.
art bell
You sound very distressed, actually.
unidentified
I need to warn your listeners to not answer for these children with black eyes.
They are real, Mr. Bell.
They are very real.
And they will.
They will take you.
They will not kill you, but they will make you disappear.
Your soul, Mr. Bell is gone.
They will take your soul.
They force me to travel in time back, forth, back, and forth.
art bell
How much time are you covering?
unidentified
Mr. Bell, it varies.
I've been in the future hundreds of years.
I've been back hundreds of years.
You know, I'm.
It's.
I. this.
art bell
I can't really determine if you're laughing or you're crying or both.
unidentified
It's a little bit both.
I miss my family, Mr. Bell.
art bell
I bet you do.
unidentified
I've had a wife.
I had children.
But I'm lost to time.
art bell
So you've lost them all.
unidentified
I've lost them all.
I can't even remember what they look like, Mr. Bell, because when I close my eyes, all I see is these children staring at me soullessly, forcing me to do their bidding, Mr. Bell.
art bell
Is it your feeling that they actually don't have souls?
unidentified
They used to.
They're like you and me, Mr. Bell.
Although they fell victim to those who came before them.
art bell
I hope my soul's still intact.
unidentified
I hope so too, Mr. Bell.
I can feel your energy, Mr. Bell.
You're a good man.
art bell
Energy you've got.
That's right.
unidentified
All right.
art bell
Well, listen, thank you very, very much.
I appreciate it.
That's kind of chilling.
I don't know how to take that as a joke or as something dead serious.
Let's go to Seattle, Washington.
You're on the air.
unidentified
Hi.
Oh, hi.
art bell
Hi.
unidentified
I just turned off my device.
Hi.
Hey, real quick, because I know we're still on time.
Hey, I had a couple questions about an older show.
I like a good UFO story.
I like the ones that are more verifiable.
art bell
What do you consider to be verifiable when it comes to UFOs?
unidentified
Believable people.
Like the one, your triangle story, it was a good one.
I like that.
art bell
Well, it was verified, actually, by the newspaper.
So many people said, you know, we live in a day and age, sir, when you really can't trust any photograph.
I mean, everything can be Jimmy'd.
Even video can be cooked up.
So I wonder how you...
unidentified
Well, like, the most important one, I think, is the Phoenix Lights.
art bell
I agree.
unidentified
It was seen by so many people.
art bell
I agree.
unidentified
It was photographed somewhat, you know.
Now, I remember when that happened and listening to your show, and there's two stories I've been trying to go back and find.
I went through all my old cassette tapes, which I couldn't find the story.
And I swear there was somebody in a private plane that called in that was under the craft or above the craft.
art bell
Actually, I believe that I had somebody call in a private airplane that went into Area 51.
Is that what you're recalling?
unidentified
No, no, no.
The Phoenix lights.
art bell
The Phoenix Light.
Well, no, there was no light aircraft that I'm aware of.
Not that I'm aware of, sir.
unidentified
Okay, and then there was a second one I thought was from the Phoenix Lights story of somebody at an Air Force base that said they removed the gun camera footage from an Air Force plane that went after that craft at Phoenix that night.
art bell
Really?
unidentified
And I'm wondering if any of your listeners remember that, or if you might recall that, or if you might find any of that.
art bell
Yeah.
No, none of this is resonating.
I was actually on the air the night of the Phoenix lights.
Listen, we've got a break.
This is midnight.
I'm Art Bell.
unidentified
Did you hear the music of serenade from the start?
Wake up, wake up, wake up and look around you.
Thank you.
leo ashcraft
For Dark Matter News, I'm Leo Ashcraft.
Authorities say a cyclist started a 73-acre wildfire in southwest Idaho by lighting his toilet paper on fire after taking a comfort break.
U.S. Bureau of Land Management officials say the cyclist stopped to do his business in a ravine in the Boise Foothills on Wednesday afternoon.
The man then lit the toilet paper on fire but lost control of the embers in the dry grass while trying to extinguish the waste.
Firefighters contained the flame several hours later.
Investigators say the man contacted them Thursday morning and his story matched the evidence found at the scene.
Officials say he will not be fined for causing the fire.
A Tennessee witness at Cedar Grove reported multiple low-flying triangle-shaped UFOs moving overhead and a black ape-like creature on the ground, according to testimony in a case from the Mutual UFO Network.
The reporting witness stepped outside after a recent snowfall in January when triangle-shaped objects were first seen in the sky overhead.
The witness describes them as having red lights on the back corners, one white light in the front corner.
The witness then seemed to think that they were spotted on the ground by the objects.
The objects were about 500 feet in the air when they were noticed and then came down to 60 feet above them.
The witness said his dog lowered his head as though something was bothering him.
He said the objects made no sound at all.
They stayed about 50 yards away and circled them.
He said then a second orb-like object appeared.
He says that after his brother got freaked out and went inside the house, that's when he saw a black ape-like creature looking at him.
He said he yelled at the creature and that's when it took off into the front yard and disappeared into the darkness.
Back in the house, the reporting witness was watching Mufon's Hangar 1, the UFO files on the History Channel, which triggered him to report the sighting to MUFON.
The witness reported the incident in June.
Tennessee MUFON is investigating.
This is Dark Matter News.
Mayflies have taken over an eastern Iowa bridge.
It took snowplows in July to clear away a massive swarm of bugs blocking a bridge in eastern Iowa.
And meanwhile, in Texas, there was a bug swarm so big it was picked up on radar.
Thousands of insects flying over Knox County, Texas, according to the National Weather Service of Norman, Oklahoma.
Rangers at Copper Breaks State Park in Kwanaugh, Texas confirmed that the radar was picking up a large swarm of both grasshoppers and beetles.
A new report says CT scans expose patients to at least 150 times the amount of radiation from a single chest x-ray.
CT scans, also known as CAT scans, are cross-sectional x-rays commonly used to diagnose symptoms ranging from chest pains to digestive problems to bone issues.
CT scans are useful because they allow doctors to get more detailed images of the body.
But new research published in the Journal of American College of Cardiology has discovered a potentially scary side effect of CT scans, DNA damage.
For their study, scientists at Stanford examined the cells of 67 patients who underwent a wide range of CT or computerized tomography scans.
Researchers detected cellular damage from the scan in patients who received all but the lowest dose of radiation.
But even at that lowest level of radiation you are exposed to during one heart CT scan is the equivalent of 50 chest x-rays.
But for those who experienced higher dosage, such as the radiation levels by full body and full chest scans, there was noticeable cell damage.
Full body and chest CT scans expose patients to at least 150 times the amount of radiation from a single chest x-ray.
While this study in particular didn't look at what side effects of that cellular damage might be, the link between CT scans and cancer, which can be caused by cell damage, is nothing new.
The researchers say they hope the findings will help doctors better understand the importance of using as low a radiation dose as possible when ordering a scan.
I'm Leo Ashcraft for Dark Matter News.
unidentified
Riding from a mountain top.
Burning like a silver flame.
A storm in a beauty in love.
A Venus like her name.
She's got it.
Yeah baby, she's got it.
I'm your Venus.
I'm your fire.
You're the fire.
Midnight matters are best handled by those that understand how to move in the darkness like Art Bell.
To call the show, please dial 1-952-CAL ART.
That's 1-952-225-5278.
art bell
This night is absolutely rocking.
I'm telling you, it is full of time travelers.
It's going non-stop.
In fact, everything's going non-stop.
So what can I say?
unidentified
But thank you all.
art bell
Very much.
unidentified
Yeah, baby.
art bell
We've got it, all right.
Hello there.
unidentified
Well, I don't know where you are.
art bell
You're on the air.
unidentified
Hi.
Hello.
Hello.
art bell
Extinguisher device right away.
unidentified
Yes, I'm extinguishing immediately.
Hey, Art.
This is Eagle in Hollywood.
I talked to you way back in the 90s.
How have you been?
art bell
Fine.
Hollywood, California.
unidentified
Hollywood, California, yeah.
I talked to you with a Palladians back in the 90s, and you were like, oh, that guy did his homework and all that kind of stuff back in the day.
art bell
You're really a Hollywood resident.
Can you tell me how many times has the Hollywood sign been destroyed in motion pictures?
unidentified
Oh, God, really?
You really want me to get into that?
art bell
I was just curious.
unidentified
That goes back to the 60s with that bank building that got destroyed in the earthquake or whatever.
That whatever bank building next to that whatever bank building.
But yeah, I know my photography pretty well around here.
But yes.
Wow.
Okay.
art bell
Wow, okay.
unidentified
First of all, I got two questions.
I have two questions for you, and then I will let everybody else get in because I know it's like a madhouse.
art bell
It is.
Great.
Questions.
Number one, please.
unidentified
Number one is, have you ever heard of a person named Freeman Fly before?
art bell
No.
unidentified
The Freeman perspective.
He's a pretty interesting guy.
You might want to look into interviewing that guy.
art bell
All right.
Question number two.
unidentified
Question number two is this whole deal with ISIS trying to attack the pyramids and Sphinx.
art bell
Well, no, no, no, they haven't said they're going to do that.
You know, I had somebody on very concerned with Egypt.
You know, the whole Arab Spring is going on.
So I did ask, of course, if he was concerned about that possibility.
And I think it's a real possibility, I'm afraid.
unidentified
It's so scary because you know about back a long time back, there was some research done.
I don't know if it's true or not, but there was some radioactive sand found under the Great Pyramid somewhere in some chamber area.
And like, what if there's something there?
If it got detonated, if they blew it up.
art bell
Detonated?
unidentified
Oh, could it cause harm?
Could there be something radioactive in it?
art bell
Yeah, that would be bad.
There's absolutely no question about it.
We're way short on time.
You know, I don't know what happened to the show.
It's, what, 11.40 Pacific now, and I just, I don't know what's happened at the time.
Hello, Brandon.
You're on air.
Brandon?
Maybe not.
Do I have it up?
unidentified
Yes, I do.
Everything's right.
art bell
Brandon's not there.
We'll go to...
How about Scott?
Scott, you're on Skype and you're on air.
unidentified
Hi, Art.
Can you hear me okay?
art bell
I hear you, yes.
unidentified
Good.
About an hour ago, did you ask for me and I wasn't there or something?
art bell
I think it's possible, yes.
unidentified
All right, well, okay.
Either that or having the same day, Javu.
Last night, your guest, Nason, was talking about the persistence of historical information about past people, events, their consciousness, etc.
art bell
That's right.
unidentified
And he said it may require using a supercomputer to gain access to it.
Now, I wanted to comment on that.
art bell
Actually, it was me, and I said it may require a quantum computer.
unidentified
Okay.
Well, here's the deal.
In 1986, I had a personal experience using no equipment at all that emulated that type of retrieval of information.
And if you have a couple of minutes, I'll tell you about it.
art bell
About a couple of minutes is all I've got.
unidentified
Okay.
I got married in early 86.
My wife's new wedding ring did not fit right.
So while it was being resized, she wore a ring that was owned by her grandmother, her mother's mother, and it had little stones representing her mother's siblings.
And I was telling her about some classes I took with a psychic where you hold an object and go with whatever impressions you get.
And she said, can you do that?
I said, sure.
She said, we'll do It with this.
I went on to describe events, places, people, none of which I'd ever heard of or places I'd ever been to regarding buildings and a piano that was turned backwards.
art bell
Now, wait, is this just knowledge you had?
Is it something you visualized?
What?
unidentified
Not at all.
These are people and events and places that I'd never been to or had never heard of ever.
And as it turned out, in other words, I visualized one thing was an old building upon stones.
And it turned out to be a little country store in southwest Missouri that my wife and her siblings went to when they visited their grandmother as children.
I had another impression of a piano, an upright piano with sadness attached to it, also a little bucket with a brick on it and a chain.
That turned out to be her mother's, one of her young siblings as a child, was a natural talent at playing the piano.
He got into a bucket in which they kept rat poison, ate it, got sick, and died.
art bell
Okay.
unidentified
And, well, wait a minute, it gets better.
Okay.
The mother was so distraught.
My former mother-in-law's mother was so distraught at the death of her child who played the piano that she ordered the piano be put on the back porch facing so that no one could get access to the keyboard because it would only remind her of her dead child.
Now, my wife and I, there were several other things.
Long story has happened.
art bell
Okay, I don't have several other things, time for several other things.
unidentified
Okay, but the hair on her head was standing up.
Mine was standing up.
I have no idea how I do it other than I've done it dozens of times.
art bell
Well, okay, thank you.
Look, people do have powers.
Does anybody actually doubt that?
I certainly don't.
People have powers that are completely inexplicable by science.
Whether it's precognition, whether it's the ability to traverse time in some way, these things are real.
They really do happen.
Try and explain them to somebody, you know, like a police officer, and you're going to end up probably with the guys with the white coats, right?
But these things really happen.
I guess that's one of the reasons we have a...
would there?
Let's go to Mountain Home, Idaho.
Hello?
You're on the air.
unidentified
Yes.
All right.
art bell
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
unidentified
Your sound quality is just superb.
art bell
Isn't it?
Thank you.
That reminds me.
Let me just take one moment before you continue.
It is superb.
And listen, folks, trust me on this.
If you're not using them, get a set of earbuds from Bob Crane.
I'm so serious about this.
He's got these new form-fitting earbuds from Bob Crane at the C. Crane Company.
And listen to the program in stereo.
It'll blow your mind.
And I'm sorry, I had to do that.
Go ahead.
unidentified
I understand.
Well, most of my questions have been answered except, and I'm really pleased you're going to do Halloween show again.
Of course.
And can you get the Ghostbuster gals back on?
Of course.
Oh, they're so wonderful.
art bell
Yes, yes.
And I'll tell you who else we're going to get on.
He's Barbara and Brendan.
Brendan and Barbara from the GIS.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
art bell
How about that?
unidentified
I remember that.
That's something I was wondering.
art bell
Electronic voice phenomenon.
unidentified
How long do you think it's going to take for JC to find you?
I don't know.
art bell
I'm sure he's calling now.
You know, every phone line is busy every minute of every hour.
So JC will eventually get in.
Yeah, he'll eventually get in.
unidentified
Oh, that's true.
Just everybody be persistent.
Take care.
Sounds like you're having fun.
art bell
Yeah, I am having fun.
Thank you very much.
Take care.
unidentified
Bye-bye.
art bell
Right.
Going to Sydney NS.
What is that, Nova Scotia or what?
unidentified
It is Nova Scotia.
art bell
Really?
unidentified
It is, yes.
art bell
Hi, Sydney.
unidentified
How are you doing?
I'm so happy that you're back.
art bell
Thank you.
unidentified
Sorry, I'm going to fangirl it for a second, Roswell's.
Over the moon, you're back.
A few quick comments.
I know that you don't have a lot of time.
There was a guy that used to live on the side of a mountain in Hawaii, and he used to take a drug that brought him inside a spaceship.
Yes.
What happened to him?
Can you ever have him back?
Are you guys still friends?
What's going on with him?
art bell
Do you remember the name?
unidentified
No, he was Timothy Leary's apprentice, and I was looking for it earlier.
I can't find his name.
art bell
Timothy Leary.
unidentified
Do you remember who I mean?
art bell
I don't really.
Timothy Leary's apprentice.
So this was reality versus something that Timothy gave his apprentice.
That was a joke.
unidentified
Sorry, what do you mean?
He gave what his apprentice what?
art bell
That was a joke.
I said this was reality you're describing versus something that Timothy gave to his apprentice?
You don't get it.
That's all right.
unidentified
A little bit of valves.
No, sorry.
art bell
I'm not.
unidentified
Do you know who I mean, though?
art bell
No, I really don't.
I'm sorry.
unidentified
Yeah, and he lived in, I think you talked to him a few times.
He lived in Hawaii, like on a volcano.
art bell
On a volcano.
unidentified
Wait, wait, wait.
art bell
Are you talking about Terrence McKenna?
unidentified
Yes, I am.
Yes, I am.
art bell
All right.
All right.
Terrence has passed away.
unidentified
I am so sorry to hear that.
I thought he was sick, but I wasn't sure.
I know Father Malachi had passed.
art bell
Yes, yes.
unidentified
And I wasn't sure.
Oh, I'm so sorry to hear that.
Oh, he was fascinating.
Yeah.
art bell
Terrence was amazing, actually.
unidentified
Yeah.
Oh, brilliant.
Just blew my mind.
Yeah.
And he just seemed like the kind of guy you want to be friends with.
Just down to earth, just nice, just such a nice perspective of life.
I wish there were more people like him.
Oh, my goodness.
art bell
You're absolutely right on every count.
Thank you very much for the talk.
unidentified
Two quick questions.
I like stuff on prophecies.
If you ever have stuff like that, like North Stradama, stuff like that.
Okay.
And I liked, well, I also liked hearing about your family and stuff and your cats, obviously.
And a time traveler you had on once, I think he said it the best.
He said, you can't travel back in time further than the invention of the first time machines.
art bell
Right.
unidentified
And once that happens, people are just going to start appearing out of nowhere.
And I think of them as like phone booths in my mind that they're just going to be popping up everywhere.
And could you imagine, really, if that happened, say, tomorrow?
art bell
I can.
unidentified
Middle of the afternoon.
Yes.
art bell
Oh, yes.
My time traveler line is ringing off the hook, and you just never know.
You never know.
unidentified
I know.
art bell
All right.
Thank you very much for the call and have a good night.
Now comes somebody that calls himself Zenoff the Alien.
Is that right?
unidentified
How dare you, Nomsky?
art bell
Not quite good enough, buddy, but good try.
unidentified
Yeah.
Hey, I love your clock, man.
art bell
Oh, thank you.
I love it, too.
You know this clock?
I'll tell you about this clock.
I went to Radio France Internationale in Paris as a visitor, a special visitor, and I went into their studio and I saw this clock.
And I damn near ripped it off the wall I wanted it so badly.
I had never seen a clock like it in my life.
So I came back to the U.S. I searched like a madman for this clock until I finally found it.
I now own three of them.
Pardon me?
unidentified
Hello?
Can you hear me?
art bell
Yeah, it sounds like you're covering up the mic.
unidentified
Sorry, my finger must have been on it.
Anyway.
Can you bring back the weird color line from the line?
art bell
Of course I can.
Actually, for the most part, I can answer any line and expect that.
That is true.
unidentified
I would also like to hear Adam Tokesh on your show sometime.
art bell
I'll put it on the list.
unidentified
All right.
art bell
Okay.
Thank you very, very much for the call.
Have, oh, Saskatchewan.
Is it Yorkton, Saskatchewan?
Or is it SK?
I can't figure it out.
unidentified
It's Saskatchewan.
You're absolutely right on that.
art bell
All right.
Well, hello.
unidentified
I know you got a short time before you're done.
I just want to welcome you back to the air and let you know that you were actually my influence when I was younger to get into radio, and I wanted to thank you for that.
art bell
So you're actually professionally in radio now?
unidentified
Yes, I've been in for 13 years.
I used to listen to you high school when I was in high school my final year and got the radio bug.
Thanks.
art bell
And so let me guess, you're ready for retirement now, right?
unidentified
I wish.
There's no money in radio, but it's fun, though.
art bell
These people who call up like you and say, you know, I've known you since, well, since I was three, I was listening on the radio with my mom, and now I'm 50.
unidentified
No, I'm not that old.
art bell
It makes me feel old.
Anyway, what's on your mind, sir?
unidentified
Well, I was just going to share with you.
There was one time that I was driving home from a friend's place taking the same route, and it's usually a five-minute drive, and then I lost, and I went back to my house, and it was three hours later, and I still, to this day, don't know what happened.
art bell
Oh, that happens to a lot of people.
It's kind of like a time slip.
It does happen, and I'm not sure what causes it.
I've had little ones myself, but, you know, three hours suddenly like that, bad.
unidentified
Yeah, it's kind of scary.
art bell
It's frightening.
It's extremely.
Of course it's scary.
What happened during that?
unidentified
Exactly.
And then you watch that thing Fire in the Sky with Travis Walton and stuff like that.
Makes you wonder if it happened to you, but you don't have any memories and you're like, yeah.
art bell
Have you ever heard Travis Walton interviewed?
unidentified
Yes, I've heard him on your show.
That was amazing.
My dad and I used to listen to that.
We actually listened to the archives before you came back and count down time till he came back.
Sure.
art bell
I should interview Travis again.
Now, his story doesn't change, you know, so it's something that you'll just hear again.
But it is such a believable story.
unidentified
Exactly.
I have a recommendation for you there, Art, if you've got a couple seconds.
art bell
Just a couple.
unidentified
Dan Aykroyd.
Yeah, Dan.
art bell
Yeah, I know Dan is really interested in the paranormal genre.
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
I think he actually attempted a show of his own, didn't he, at one point?
unidentified
And he also has this crystal head vodka that he made in the crystal skull.
You know how there's those crystal skulls that are supposedly out there?
art bell
Yeah.
unidentified
Pretty cool.
art bell
Right.
Well, if you've got to drink vodka from a crystal skull, I guess way to do it.
All right, I got to go.
unidentified
That's right.
Right.
Thank you.
art bell
Right, you two.
Bye-bye.
unidentified
Good night in the desert.
art bell
How can it be over?
unidentified
Shooting stars across the sky.
art bell
Ridiculous.
All these lines ringing.
Listen, everybody, thank you so very much for a wild night, and it'll be the first of many.
Open lines are so much fun.
From the high desert, I'm Art Bell.
unidentified
Good night.
We make it to tomorrow with the sun shine on you.
Midnight in the desert.
I'm a less than me.
Ooh, a less than me.
Midnight in the desert, and there's wisdom in the air.
I've been looking for the answers.
All my life I felt you there as the world we live in quickens.
Are we healing all the sun?
Have we lost our intuition?
Are we running out of time?
Midnight in the desert.
And we're listening.
And we're listening.
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