Dr. Evelyn Paglini, a parapsychologist, predicts escalating disasters—California earthquakes, East Coast flooding, and solar storms tied to the 2012 Mayan calendar—while warning of China’s economic manipulation and Mexico’s cartel violence. She dismisses flu shots, advises gold/silver investments, and frames magic as a natural force for protection, contrasting it with Wiccan ethics. Paglini’s verified forecasts, like Hurricane Katrina and the Virginia Tech massacre, suggest a "cleansing of Earth," but she insists collective consciousness and spiritual rituals can counter global chaos. [Automatically generated summary]
From the high Rise Condo in the Southeast Asian capital city of the Philippines, Manila.
Good morning, good evening, good afternoon, whatever it may be, wherever you are in all the time zones of the world covered ever so well by this program, Coast to Coast AM.
I'm Art Bell, filling in for George Nouri, who's taking the night off.
I have no idea what he's doing, but I hope he's having fun.
It's wonderful to be with you, and I'm sure it's wonderful for George to have a night off.
Do this show five, six nights a week.
It's a lot of work.
So it's great to be here.
All the ABs are well.
That means the skinned and furred ones as well.
We're all well.
In fact, if you go to coastcoasta.com right now, you will see a picture of Miss Asia Bell in her ballerina outfit.
In fact, she's going to school.
They start school very, very early here in the Philippines.
And she's been going to school now for, I don't know, about a half a year, I guess, five days a week, she goes to school.
And then on Saturday, she goes to ballerina school.
She loves that.
In fact, she came to me earlier tonight and said, Daddy, why do you have to work?
I am proud to announce, and I am pretty proud of this, that I have my Philippine, I took the Philippine Class A test, ham radio test.
And I know to many of you, you say about ham radio, come on.
It's been my lifelong hobby.
So I now have a new set of call letters.
I am, are you ready for this?
4F1AB.
I love that call.
4F1AB.
4F1AB.
It's so much easier than, I used to have to say DU1 slant W6OBB, which of course is my U.S. call.
But now I have a real honest God Philippine license 4F1AB, as in Art Bell.
Think I knew somebody?
Hmm.
And Erin has a call.
That's right.
She passed her test, and she is now DW1SPA.
So there you have it.
Both of us have local, real Philippine ham licenses for F-1A.
Oh, I love that call.
I just love it.
Okay, let's look at the world.
Never pleasant.
Citigroup, I guess afraid to give a big, you know, bonus to its people since the government, meaning you, me, all of us that pay taxes, own a piece, afraid to give a big bonus, instead is going to give stock worth millions of dollars.
So what's the diff?
The CEO, Vikram Pandit, drawing a salary of only $1 for the second year in a row, didn't get a raise, but there are hints now there'll be a big, big payout for him next year when people may have forgotten everything a little bit.
Secretary of State Hillary Vodham Clinton spent about a half hour Friday meeting with the Palestinian president as the Obama administration tried to prevent Israeli-Palestinian peace stocks from collapsing again.
You know, in my lifetime, the Israelis and the Palestinians have never, ever really gotten it together.
And, you know, I kind of think they never will.
Nancy Pelosi says tax cuts, well, yeah, maybe.
You know, they're coming up on an election.
And so I'm sure this wouldn't be something she would say in normal times.
Bank robbers pulled off a rather dramatic heist Friday.
It sounds like a movie.
They strapped a bomb to a teller, ordered him to steal as much money as he could grab out of the vault.
All the while his father was being held hostage.
God, that really sounds like a movie I've seen.
All began when the three masked men, gun-toting thieves, burst into the teller's apartment shortly after midnight.
That really is a movie.
I'm almost sure of it.
A federal judge ruled Friday that a decorated flight nurse discharged from the Air Force for being gay has got to be put right back in her job.
Again, the decision by U.S. District Judge Ronald Layton came in a very closely watched case as a tense debate has been playing out over the policy.
You know, don't ask, don't tell.
They're deeming it to be unconstitutional.
I guess there's free speech involved, right?
Don't ask.
Well, I don't know about that, but don't tell.
That would be free speech.
Honduras, Nicaragua, getting ready for a big storm.
Tropical storm Matthew on Friday.
Drenching disaster-prone areas.
Strangely, this year, here over on this side of the world, I am on the other side of the world, right?
Kind of cozying up to the middle of the world here.
We haven't had very many typhoons this year.
Last year, it was a typhoon of the week.
This year, we've had one.
Lindsay Lohan, back home again, in jail.
It might be a short one this time.
The actress's attorney apparently has won a ruling clearing her release from jail if she posts a $300,000 bail.
And I'm sure she'll come up with that roughly nine hours after another judge ordered the troubled Starlet jailed for just a month.
So in the news, there's a little picture of Lindsay in her decorator orange jail outfit.
I know you've heard this, and I don't care.
This just blew me away.
It just blew me away.
Modern medicine often works wonders, but an Australian mom knows firsthand the real miracle that can come from a mother's touch.
This is just an astounding story.
Her name was Kate Ogg, is Kate Ogg.
She told her newborn son, Jamie, was told rather, that he died.
He was dead.
They had heroic efforts to resuscitate the premature infant.
All failed after his birth.
But Kate was then given a chance to say goodbye to the apparently lifeless baby.
She and her husband David found that they were instead saying hello to the newest member of their family.
Now, here's how it went.
She gave birth just 27 weeks into the pregnancy.
Daughter Emily survived the premature birth, but son Jamie languished.
Then after 20 minutes, 20 minutes of trying to get him to breathe, that's 20 minutes, no air, no oxygen to the brain, doctors pronounced him dead.
After Kate was told that Jamie didn't make it, nurses placed the baby across Kate's bare chest so that Kate and David could reconcile themselves to the death.
She said, I wanted to meet him, hold him, and get him to know us.
She said, if he was on the way out of the world, well, you know, we wanted to have him know who his parents were and to know that we loved him before he died.
But if a kind of a strange thing happened on the way to the farewell after five minutes, Jamie began displaying these strange, short, startled movements.
As Kate and David looked on, his movements became more pronounced.
Still, the baby's doctor told the parents any movements were just pure reflex, and their son, their son was dead, not alive.
Kate and David, nevertheless, reveled in their son's movements, even though they believed he was dead.
We'd resigned ourselves to the fact that we were going to lose him.
We just were trying to make the most out of those last moments.
David Ogg told Curry the couple had hoped for an extra minute or two, perhaps, with their son, but eventually it extended to more than two hours.
But no one was more surprised than Kate and David when their seemingly dead baby opened his eyes.
Opened his eyes.
And again, you know, they were told nothing but reflex, but the eyes stayed open.
At one point, the couple began to think their baby might not be dead after all.
I think half of us then, what if he actually makes it?
What if he does?
It'd be a miracle.
The other half was saying, no, he's been declared dead.
Well, Jamie continued to come around as he lay across Kate's chest.
He began grabbing at his mother's finger and then his dad's.
Remember, this baby was dead.
No heartbeat.
No oxygen, no breathing for 20 minutes.
Anyway, Kate put a dab of breast milk on her finger.
Jamie took it.
Kate finally began to believe her baby was actually alive.
We thought, he's getting stronger.
He's not dead.
But the family wasn't getting any encouragement from the doctor.
While the Oggs urged hospital personnel to please summon the doctor, they were repeatedly told what they were seeing was just reflexes from a baby already declared dead.
Kate told Curry they actually had to fib, lie, to get the doctor to return to her bedside.
He kept saying he's doing things dead babies just don't do.
You might really want to come and see this.
But the skeptical doctor decided not to come back.
So David said, go and tell him we've come to terms with our baby's death.
Can he just come and explain it to us?
That made him come back.
Kate Ogg told the London Daily Mail, the doctor was simply in disbelief when he arrived back at the bedside.
He got out the stethoscope, listened to Jamie's chest, and just kept shaking his head.
He said, I don't believe it.
I don't believe it.
So I would like somebody, anybody, to explain that to me.
No heartbeat, no oxygen to the brain for 20 minutes, not a situation where you were cooled down so that your bodily functions would sort of go dormant.
You know, I'm not a really religious person, but where was that baby?
That story just absolutely grabbed me and stuck with me, and it still does.
And so, though I'm sure you heard it when it occurred, because it was kind of worldwide news, for 20 minutes, where was that child?
There's more to come.
We'll be back in a moment.
This is kind of concerning, kind of worrisome.
Could the Mayan Doomsday Prophets actually have been on to something after all.
After the 2012 film, the one that scared the hell out of everybody, that really was a scary movie with very good effects, done by the same producer that did Whitley's movie and my movie, The Day After Tomorrow.
2012 was scary.
It seems as though there are some scientists who now believe that when the sun rises on December 21st, 2012, something close to apocalyptic could indeed occur.
The eminent astronomer, Professor Sundara Ramon, may dismiss the prophecy as myth, but he says extremely abnormal activity on the sun that day, that day, is going to result in massive solar storms.
The solar wind, powered by huge coronal mass ejections, will fry communication networks, power grids across the world, says he.
Unless some action is taken to mitigate the effects of the solar flare, what are they going to do?
Put up aluminum foil?
Professor, that was my question.
Professor Rahman adds, entire cities, markets, government systems could plunge into chaos of a kind the modern world has never witnessed.
The solar wind is a stream of charged particles that blow out the corona of the sun at supersonic speeds to the outer reaches of the planetary orbits, all explained by Professor Rahman, head of the Indian Institute of Astrophysics.
You remember in the movie 2012, all of this began in India.
Remember?
During violent sunstorms like the one expected in December of 2012, the sun ejects a huge volume of electrified gas.
It's capable of damaging power grids, communication services, satellite spacecraft, aircraft, and so forth.
And to add to that, there is news circulating now of a hole in Earth's magnetic field.
Remember the ozone hole?
This is in the magnetic field, and the magnetic field is what protects Earth against these kinds of flares.
Now, the hole is 10 times the size of Earth.
That's right.
There's a hole in the Earth's magnetic field 10 times the size of Earth itself.
Is it Hollywood imitating life or life imitating Hollywood?
One of the Pope's astronomers says that he'd be absolutely delighted if intelligent life is found among the stars.
Guy Consolomongo, I believe it is.
Aliens might have souls, he says, and could choose to be baptized if humans ever met them, according to a Vatican scientist.
The official also dismissed intelligent beings, or design rather, as bad theology that had been hijacked by American creation fundamentalists.
The scientist who's one of the Pope's astronomers said he'd be delighted if intelligent life was found among the stars, but the odds of finding it and of it being intelligent and us able to communicate with it, well, when you add it all up, it's not a practical question.
Speaking ahead of a talk at the British Science Festival in Birmingham, he said that the traditional definition of a soul was to have intelligence, free will, freedom, freedom to love, and freedom to make decisions.
Any entity, no matter how many tentacles it has, has a soul, says he.
Would he baptize an alien?
Well, yes, if they asked, he would.
Now, if the Vatican's astronomer is going to assert that an alien, intelligent alien, would have a soul, then I assert to you that dogs and cats and other animals for that matter have souls.
I've said for years, you know, I have cats, I have three cats, we have three cats.
If I have a soul, they have a soul.
I can see it in them.
I can see it in their individual personalities.
I can see it in their love.
I can see it in what they do.
Although, by the way, Dolly, my youngest little Filipina cat, yesterday chewed a button off my new Windows 7 computer, laptop computer.
Why would a cat chew a button off a computer keyboard?
Nevertheless, I maintain that they have souls, as do dogs and other animals, and I think that eventually the human race is going to be forced, perhaps through some sort of scientific discovery or something, to acknowledge that fact.
And when that does occur, we're going to have to treat animals in a very different way than we do now.
Oh, listen, open lines are coming up.
I really ought to say that, huh?
Or they won't ring.
When we take the break here at the half hour following the break, I'm going to take at least 30 minutes of calls, and then we're going to talk with Evelyn Paglini.
Because of all the predictors, the soothsayers, the various psychics that I've had on this program, nobody, nobody, and longtime listeners will vouch for this.
Nobody has even come close to the accuracy of Evelyn Paglini.
I mean, this woman has called big ones, and they've been dead on the money each and every time.
Now, that, of course, demands my attention, and it should demand your attention.
When somebody gets that many big things right ahead of time, not easily called things, and we'll, you know, when we talk to her, we'll kind of document them.
Evelyn, you might, if you're listening, search back and recall all the hits you've had, but my God, it just went on and on and on and on.
Everything she said has come true.
And she's not really a Sussayer, nor does she do predictions.
As a matter of course, she just, she's a witch.
I once asked for a broom-riding cauldron-stirring witch and went on a long hunt for such.
And I found her, and that was Evelyn Paglini.
And then she just got into this prediction thing, and gosh, she hit one after another, after another, after another.
Really freaky stuff, folks.
She's right on the money, and she'll be here tonight after about 30 minutes of open lines.
So my suggestion is turn the radio volume up, get comfortable, because it's coming.
Yes, other side of the world, fairly adjacent to the equator.
Really is a very different world here.
And I know I keep saying this, but one of these times, I'm going to come on the air and we're going to talk about what it's like here in the Philippines.
It's an amazing, amazing place, and it's such a different world that when you step off the airplane, it's like going, I don't know, into a different dimension or something.
Glenn Warner in Snomish, Washington says, hey, Art, the reason your cat shooted the buttons off your Windows 7 laptop computers, obvious.
She's a Mac user.
Smart Kitty.
Smart Alec, Glenn.
That was a bad moment.
Very bad moment.
You look over and there were two keys missing.
One of them irreparably damaged.
I had to come up with a weird little scheme to get it back on.
We'll see if it stays.
All right.
We'll break here, come back and do some open lines.
And my sisters had gone upstairs into the upper loft to go to sleep.
And I was downstairs.
My mother and her husband were drinking wine.
And they started playing with the Ouija board.
And I remember clearly seeing a horseshoe come off the top of the mantle and flinging around the room and then putting itself back on the wall upside down.
I have a story about a Ouija board that I still will not tell publicly.
And you don't play with a Ouija board.
I'm not so sure that it's a Ouija board itself, Phil, but when you intentionally sit down with a Ouija board, which ostensibly is to communicate with spirits or the dead, you're opening a door.
unidentified
Oh, I mean, that's what I was wondering.
I said, I was seven or eight years old, six, seven, eight.
I don't know.
I was that age.
I know I was under 10.
But just the horseshoe was hanging up on the mantle, and then it came off the wall and swung around the entire room and put itself back on the wall upside down.
Again, I'm not sure it's the board itself, but it's a matter of intent.
When you sit down in front of a Ouija board, you and others, your intent is to speak with the other side in one fashion or another, or to see something funny or cute or scary.
Not smart.
Not wise.
I mean, just think of it this way, just on the off chance that all of it's true and you really can invite spirits from the other side, why would you intentionally wish to do that and inflict upon yourself and your family and others and friends what might walk through that door?
Bakersfield, California has Brian.
Hi, Brian.
unidentified
Good evening, Art.
Good to talk with you again.
Brian from Bakersfield spoke with you years ago.
You mentioned the story about the stillborn baby who was resuscitated at Long Last.
And you asked the question, where was, I believe it was a girl, where was she during that interim?
And I cannot pretend, nor would I venture to pontificate as to where she was.
But I do recall that I believe it's Ecclesiastes 12, 7 that says the soul returns to God upon death, or something to that effect.
And I do believe whatever else might be said about this incident, that there's no question in my mind whatsoever that this was a divine intervention.
And if we can call it a miracle, it's as close to a miracle as anything, any anecdote I've heard.
I have been a long, long time listener, and I would like to tell you my story as a young Army wife when my husband returned from Vietnam to Fort Hood.
My first child was stillborn.
And it was a little boy.
And of course, 30 years ago, they didn't have all the medical advances they have now.
But I had carried that child, and it had lived within me.
And I knew the child was alive.
And when he was born, tragically, the umbilical cord was wrapped around the neck, and the baby did not survive.
And I was blessed to have a physician who was kind enough to give my husband and I some time with the baby.
And I had the experience that the doctors were trying to describe to this mother, you know, where there's certain movement and what have you.
In our case, my son did not.
But about 10 or 15 minutes as we were holding him, and I looked at my husband and said, would you like to hold him?
And he shook his head.
He was in such pain, as we both were.
And for one moment, that little baby opened his eyes and he looked at me.
And he looked towards my husband.
And I said, look, he's opened his eyes.
And just at that moment, the doctor came in.
And I believe I'm a Christian, and I don't consider myself an overly religious person, but I am a Christian.
And I'm a spiritual person.
And I believe that God gave me that moment of recognition that the child I had carried had lived, was alive, and was going on to a better place.
That's how I choose to think of it.
And when I heard the story a few days ago about this lady and the mother and the father, I cannot tell you how happy you can just imagine the joy that I felt for her, having had a different result myself.
And you were having back problems, and that's when I discovered you.
And Ramona was still living, and I remembered a comment you made about the body is a remarkable thing except for the engineering of the back.
And I was recovering from a severe automobile accident, and then years went by, and Ramona went on her way.
And I was listening tonight you announced the big change in your life, that you had met a lady and you were going to change your life abruptly.
I did not know if you had children.
I knew about kitty cats and all that.
But I didn't know if you had children.
And when you made that announcement of you had met this lady and you were going to start a new life, et cetera, a few weeks or so after that, I had a dream, Art.
And of course, we all dream.
I don't remember mine too well.
But I had a dream.
And you were holding a baby with a lovely lady with her arms on your shoulder.
And you were both gazing at this beautiful baby girl.
Can you imagine how I felt when I found out Asia was born?
I wanted to, actually I wanted to talk about something else, but I wanted to make a quick comment, if I may, about the situation with the newborn.
When I hear that story, I don't so much hear, I mean, it is obviously a miracle of some sorts, but what I hear is shocking ignorance of the medical community, in this case, you know, in their attitude towards newborns.
Perhaps maybe, you know, what they said, there was no detectable heartbeat.
Maybe that just means that whatever instrumentation they were using is not sufficient for newborns.
Maybe, but this was a neonatal unit in Australia, you know, with the latest of everything.
unidentified
Exactly.
Maybe it's not appropriate for newborns.
Maybe what MDs think, I'm sorry for cutting you off, but maybe what MDs think of as being high-tech and blah, blah, blah is not appropriate for infant newborns.
In natural childbirth, they generally do immediately put the baby right on the mother's breast so that the baby who's heard her heartbeat for nine months can hear the mother's heartbeat immediately as soon as they're born.
And that stimulates it.
And it's not uncommon in natural childbirth for a baby that's somewhat unresponsive as soon as it comes out.
When it's put on the mother's chest, it immediately kicks in or soon warms up and kicks in and comes to what we term as to life.
Maybe we need to apply different or MDs need to apply different standards to infants.
Maybe physicians, which tend not to believe in God, by the way.
They generally don't.
Physicians.
Doctors, scientists, people like that, as a general rule, general, say that again.
Tend just not to believe in God.
However, I'm not buying the, oh, you know, they just missed the heartbeat or they missed the breathing nonsense.
This was a modern Australian hospital need to a unit, and they had all the latest of everything, and they didn't declare and wouldn't declare an infant like this stillborn dead.
Unless it really was.
Simple as that.
They wouldn't.
And they would go to every extraordinary measure you can imagine to revive it.
So, you know, people toss the word around miracle pretty easily, but this comes as close to what I would call a real honest God miracle as you can imagine.
I call bookstores like crazy over here, and I haven't seen it yet.
unidentified
Yeah, because I thought for you personally, it might open the door, if it's in the script, that is, it might open the door to answer a lot of your questions.
And it's more or less people who have curious questions about consciousness, and he gives them answers.
He works off three premises, which I can't remember off the top.
I think one of them is consciousness is all there is.
Nothing happens except by the will of God, including that child that opened its eyes for a moment with the mother and gave her that reassuring thing as the previous caller.
She was right on, by the way.
And there was something else.
There are three premises that it works on, but it's much more involved than that, and it gets your mind to open up and view consciousness as something other than the way it's looked at in a traditional textbook.
Well, let me see these baby stories, especially the woman who just told her story a couple back, definitely heart-rending.
I was, made me think about a top-notch physician that you had on that was sort of a morgue kind of, I don't know, I guess she did autopsies or worked in a morgue test somebody.
Well, you had her on once or twice, and she stated, and I've heard this over and over more than I'd like to believe.
Okay, even with our so-called advanced diagnostic technology, she was saying that there are people whose breathing and heart rates are so subtle that they do go unnoticed and people are declared dead.
But again, dealing with no oxygen for 20 minutes, no oxygen to the brain, it should have been just simple dead meat.
But this child was alive.
Well, normal reflexes after 20 minutes.
It's just an amazing story.
I'm Art Bell.
This is Coast to Coast AM.
All right.
Here we go.
It's been a very long time since Dr. Paglini has been on the air.
But as I said earlier in the show, if you're just joining, nobody, not all the psychics, not all the predictors and the remote viewers and the what have you who have made predictions on this program have ever had a record that's within miles of Evelyn Paglini's period.
And she's not really a prediction person.
It just sort of began to happen on the program, and she hit so many that it began to send a little tingle down my spine.
I mean, big things.
We'll sort of review with her some of the things.
Parapsychologist Dr. Evelyn Paglini is one of the leading authorities on the occult and the supernatural in the United States.
And when she's on this show, The World, I guess.
Evelyn began learning natural magic from her grandfather at the age of four and is now a psychic, metaphysical teacher, lecturer, consultant.
She has set precedent in the Texas court system on a child abuse case with ritual overtones, worked with law enforcement on missing persons and murder cases involving the occult and the supernatural.
She is a spiritual warrior.
It's a very interesting phrase, isn't it?
Spiritual warrior.
Coming up in a moment, Dr. Evelyn Paglini.
Dr. Evelyn Paglini, welcome back to Coast to Coast AM.
And sometimes they will come with sound, and other times they will come with sound and a lot of emotion.
Especially when I'm seeing something that's very devastating like a Katrina or a Rita or earthquakes.
Just like when I get into weather, big, when I get into weather, that's when I start to see and feel the emotion, the fear, the anxiety, then the depression.
I have called the cleansing of Earth for the last couple of years.
I said we were in a countdown, and I said that there was going to be an escalation of devastation and catastrophic events that were going to occur.
This is all happening, will continue to happen.
And yes, 2012 has a lot to do with it.
It's the purification of Earth.
With this, there is also going to be what I will call a vibrational change.
And so therefore, we will have our consciousness raised and lifted.
You will notice in the next couple of years, more and more people will be coming forward because their sensitivity, psychic abilities will be being turned on.
Children will be coming with extraordinary abilities.
And that's all part of the process of what is going on as far as the 2012, the cleansing of Earth, this devastation, this catastrophic cycles that we are in.
Okay, I feel that there is going to be several areas of the planet that will cause much pain in crying and fear because of the loss of life that will be in maybe the tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands.
Well, I'll tell you, when I get more into the weather, I was looking at an awful lot of flooding and an awful lot of, again, earthquakes.
It seems, and I called in the beginning of the year on a show called the Joho Show.
I called it the year of the earthquake.
And when I was on the show with Coast to Coast, I had mentioned that I had felt an awful lot of crying and an awful lot of desperation and fear from earthquakes.
And when Haiti hit and then Chile, it was like this is just the beginning.
And so I'm feeling that there's going to be more earthquakes and they are going to take devastating tolls.
And I'm also feeling a lot of flooding.
It seems like the elements are in full force, Art, and they don't want to quit.
And so you're going to have flooding, especially what I'm worried about is the East Coast.
I keep seeing the East Coast being flooded dramatically, the coastal towns being flooded.
I see superstorms with high winds that want to come in, and they seem to come up from Florida and then just track way up the East Coast.
Now, I already called that there was going to be flooding in the Midwest, and you see what's happening in Wisconsin and in Ohio.
That's just the beginning.
There's more.
And that I already called in the beginning of the year.
Well, I see more of the Midwest flooding.
I see more of the upper Midwest flooding beside the East Coast.
Well, when cold air meets warm air, which occurs in the U.S. Midwest frequently, that's what you get, or gigantic, monstrous, that's what creates these monstrous storms.
You think that that is not bad enough, and then you take a look at the fires, and they continue.
Not only now in California am I worried about October and November, especially, but I feel that there is going to be fires that are going to be started deliberately.
I'm saying it again, and I've got it in more than one state.
It is planned.
It is deliberate.
They are taking advantage of a dry season and the heat wave, which I also called and has continued, they are going to take advantage of it, and there's going to be fires in several states that are arson.
And that's part of what I was getting, like a homegrown terrorism.
Evelyn, that leads to another question, and it's, I guess, a social question more than anything Else, but what's happening in the United States to the people?
I know economic times are rough in the U.S. right now, but God, what's happening to the people, Evelyn?
There was a time when conditions got dry and people didn't automatically go out and begin to set fires intentionally, and now they do.
There's been some sort of social, massive social change in the country, and I could go on and on about it.
It's not just fires, but we'll take that as an example right now.
I want to call it negativity seeping in and taking hold and bending people who may be out of desperation, maybe out of fear or anxiety, losing their job, losing their homes.
Maybe that's the cause.
But I'm also picking up that it's almost like a plan of an organization that wants homegrown people to turn on each other and to turn on their country.
I teach people how to use magic so that they can not only better their lives, but that they can protect themselves against psychic attack and curses, spells, hexes.
One person can make a difference, but when you pull the consciousness and you know the power of the mind collectively, when you focus that attention on it, yes, you can fight evil.
That's why the more people out there who get into magic, who get into the discipline and the power of the mind, will be able to, again, not only help themselves, but help mankind.
Well, there are things going on in the United States, and I guess to some degree the rest of the world too, that just absolutely confuse me.
Crimes that are so...
I mean, the torture of young people, the molestation of young people, all these crimes that are what I used to call head shakers that you just don't understand.
And, you know, that one, I mean, to my dying day, I will remember as probably one of the scariest programs I've ever done in my whole life.
She was not with the rest of us.
This woman really was evil.
She really was evil.
And she had given her child to the devil.
That's right.
Just an incredible break.
All right, we've got to take a break here, Evelyn.
So much to do tonight.
A spiritual warrior named Dr. Evelyn Paglini is my guest.
Aside from the predictions, we'll talk a lot about what witchcraft is and what it is not.
From the other side of the world, I'm Art Bell.
That would be me.
Now, coming up in a moment, I'm going to ask Dr. Paglini about the economy.
I really want to know about the economy.
I hear the economists in the U.S. have declared the recession over.
Obviously, they don't get down to the street very frequently because, according to my friends, the people I talk to, it's anything but over with this many people out of work.
And I know, you know, the economists suggest that the job market in any recovery is the last thing to return.
But most economists now are predicting the job situation is going to get even worse, double digits.
It's actually already in double digits.
You know, according to their figures, we're near 10% unemployment, just barely under 10%, and it will hit double figures again.
Now, yes, the stock market has recovered substantially, but the stock market is the market, and it's I don't know what to say about it, and I don't know whether I believe in this market recovery anyway.
If you look back to the Great Depression, you'll find there was exactly this kind of period we're having right now where everybody is talking about the market recovering, and then, of course, she went the second time, and the second time she went, it turned out to be the Great Depression.
Now, people express concern about the possibility of a double dip.
That's sort of a mild phrase.
It doesn't sound too bad.
Double dip, right?
But when they had the double dip in the Great Depression, that's exactly what it became.
It was the Great Depression.
So I want to ask about the economy.
It's important to everybody.
It's worrisome.
And I'm telling you, as I talk to my friends, there are stores closing in Maas.
There are houses empty.
The rate at which banks are taking them back has never been seen before, at least in my lifetime.
Never.
So they may consider it over.
I don't, and I'm sure many of you don't.
And we'll find out what Evelyn thinks in a moment.
Well, all right.
Evelyn, with regard to the economy, continuing to improve, if that's what's happening right now, or a double dip or a depression ahead.
I hate to be that flip, but, you know, in the old days, Evelyn, when we had, you know, economic boom times and then, I mean, there's a business cycle, you know, up and down and up and down.
I understand that.
But in the old days when we'd be down, a president would come on TV and say, well, the basic American economy is sound.
I can't say that anymore.
It's not sound.
We don't have industry to be employing these people anymore.
Even though I feel this is a very bad blue season, next one even worse.
But I'm worried about this one.
There's something that's bothering me.
It hasn't come in quite clear enough.
That in construction and construction was because of all of the devastation that had all the bridges and roads and dams and homes that have to be rebuilt.
And that's not because of just the economy, but because of fear.
And do you know that there is a movement out there that even wants to get our currency to be not only devalued, but not to be the currency of the world?
Well, when you're in another country, as I am, Evelyn, you watch the exchange rates, you know, between local currency and the U.S. dollar, and we can see it changing, and it's scary.
It really is scary.
And there are countries now talking about, instead of using the dollar, coming up with a basket of currencies for safety, you know, the Chinese currency and some others, instead of the dollar.
And even though it has not massively occurred yet, there are moves in that direction.
And beside that, you have what I'm going to say, I want to call China a problem, not just with the trade, not just with the currency, but with something that is very secretive and sinister that is being plotted.
And so I'm going to say with all of the wars that are going on, Afghanistan and Iraq, the things I would worry about, the places I would worry about, China, Iran, and then Mexico.
Well, China would be capable of producing economic Armageddon because they hold so much so many bonds, so many everything that if they were to call it or suddenly dump all their dollars, it would produce a Zurdovan economic Armageddon.
I'm concerned about this here triangle, which is what I kept saying, the trade, the currency, and this other sinister aspect, this something that's going on underneath this third way of the way I want to call it is, I don't want to say it wrong.
It's almost like when somebody wanted to poison you slowly.
It's in every culture, across every continent, throughout the ages.
And yes, it's real.
And every person has the ability to tap into nature and the elements and to use its vibration and its forces to influence, to manipulate, and sometimes to change or to bring into the physical plane of existence a desired goal.
You will use a specific color in order to get a result.
And so, like, say you wanted to draw or attract love or stimulate strength and energy, you'd use the color of red.
And if you wanted to increase passion, you would use the color of red.
If you wanted to remove a negativity, you would use black.
If you wanted to, let's say, put a shield of protection around you, you would use the color of white.
If you wanted prosperity and growth, then you'd use the color of green.
They use it in packaging, okay, in products.
They realize the vibration of color.
And when you put it around your home, when you're using it in candle burning or in ritual, then each color has a vibration of either of attraction or repelling or protection.
I've seen a number of movies about witchcraft where, you know, a spell is used to cause somebody to fall in love with somebody else, and it always seems to go wrong.
In other words, they almost become a stalker of that person.
They get so hooked on that person, they think they're so in love with that person that they can't stop.
And we're on a break.
See, I don't watch the clock, Edeln.
When I get involved in something like this, it gets so wild.
So we'll ask about this when we get back.
But everybody's seen the movies where, you know, Love Potion No. 9 or whatever is used and then I suppose abused.
Be right back.
It is.
Love is probably the best reason to be alive, wouldn't you say?
I mean, what would the world really be without love?
Not much.
Not much at all.
So love is central to everything.
Can somebody have a spell put on them?
Can they be made to fall in love?
I think the answer to that is yes.
We'll ask Evelyn about love in a moment.
All right.
We're back.
Every now and then we lose a connection.
It just occurs.
It's one of those things when you do a show from the other side of the world.
Evelyn Paglini, Dr. Evelyn Paglini, is my guest.
And in a moment, we're going to talk about love.
But just very quickly, I would like to give out my email address.
So grab a pen.
And then I'm going to allow Evelyn to give out whatever information, contact information she would like to.
If you'd like to get hold of me, I'm trying my best, I really am, to answer my emails, and I'm really putting an effort into it.
So if you want to fire me an email, I am Art Bell, A-R-T-B-E-L-L, at mindspring.com.
That's Art Bell, A-R-T-B-E-D-L, lowercase at MindSpring, M-I-N-D-S-P-R-I-N-G dot com.
That's it.
Evelyn, before we get too deep into the show, I want to allow you to do the same thing, whether it's a newsletter you have or a book or anything else, or I know you do individual or you used to do individual consultations for people on occasion.
You do that.
All right.
If somebody wants that, how do they get hold of you?
I know you said that, you know, it's inherent in all of us that we have this power that we could, most of us or all of us could, to some degree or another, practice magic.
But obviously, there are degrees of inborn talent.
I mean, somebody like yourself has been doing it for years.
You really know what you're doing.
So is it really wise for an amateur to, you know, go get a book on witchcraft and start spelling away?
Learning meditation, learning visualization, getting a foundation, having a discipline, and then getting involved with nature and the elements to find out how they can tap into those forces and those vibrations and to use them in their daily life to help them to make choices, decisions, moves, to help them in a legal manner.
I have people out there that know about magic, always knew it existed, but never thought it would work for them.
I had one young man that had to go to court and he used magic and it saved his job.
Okay, before you came on the air, before we did the show, Bill in Atlantic City, and that's all the identity I'll give, posed a couple of questions.
I'd like to read them to you.
Dr. Paglini has spoken of her zychic ability.
What safeguards does she take to prevent entities from selectively editing the information she receives and using her to disseminate false information?
One of the best ways to run a disinformation op is to mix large doses of the truth with small, though significant, doses of disinformation.
And we've all heard some of the people even on the show who do that.
So what kinds of protection and verification does Evelyn use in conjunction with her psychic predictions?
Well, first of all, when it gnaws at me and it keeps showing me images, this is not an entity presenting it.
As I said, I do a lot of ritual.
I call upon the elements.
If I'm going to be using the element of fire in order for me to, let's say, remove or destroy an obstacle, there will be a few moments either before or after the ritual where I get images or visions of fires and where they're at and how bad they're going to be or if someone is starting them.
So it doesn't come from an entity.
And I always have a shield of protection before I do any meditation or I do any ritual work.
Well, there are so many wonderful books out there on herbs that you can use to help yourself, just a few.
I would say Bayberry and Mugwork.
That would be excellent for attracting wealth and success.
You can sprinkle it Around your home, your place of business.
You can also carry it in a bag, like a mojo bag.
A gravel root is extremely good to attract a job, believe it or not.
And I always, always recommend the herb of bodo leaves or five-finger grass, okay, or high sop or rosemary for protection.
And for money, oh, oh, oh.
Again, I like the Bay Berry.
I like the mudwork.
Essential oils, if you wanted to use those, okay, you have excellent protection oil, rosemary, rose geranium, okay, wisteria for protection from money attraction, better business, magnet, prosperity.
I have a lot of emails and messages, Evelyn, and you're going to hear it because we always do when we open the lines from people who have just had nothing but the most atrocious bad luck in their lives.
I mean, like one thing, one disaster, personal disaster after another.
And it gets to the point where they think that they've been attacked or are being attacked.
So if somebody is under attack, or they think they're pretty well convinced they're under attack, is there anything they can personally do about it as a general neophyte about magic, or are they best off to come to somebody like yourself?
Well, what they can do is a cleansing and a protection or a psychic self-defense.
It's a ritual which will remove the negativity and send it back to the sender if indeed it is an individual that is doing the sending, or it will remove the negativity and that which is blocking and stopping you if you are in a negative cycle.
And so it's called either cleansing and protection or psychic self-defense.
And what you're doing is removing the negativity and then putting a shield around you that is impenetrable.
You can also do that for your home.
I've noticed a lot of people have been having a lot of difficulties in their home where they have walked into a home, purchased a home, and it has either a spirit or a haunting or it has negative energy going on and they don't know what to do about it.
And what I decided that I would do for the coast-to-coast audience, for those individuals, because I've had a few emails lately, I wanted them to go to mysticalblend.com.
And what I did is I put up cleansing and protection of the environment up there so that if they feel that they have a negativity in the home or they feel that there is something in their home that is possibly a spirit, then this is a good way of cleansing it.
In voodoo, for example, I've heard it said that for somebody to cast a spell on you that's going to really have effect, you've got to believe in that spell.
In other words, you've got to believe it can be done to you.
And if you believe it can be done to you, it indeed can be done to you.
Real magic, is that true or is it not true?
In other words, whether or not you believe it can be done to you.
Two strong earthquakes want to hit California, and I've been doing everything I can with a group of individuals that I know that have really, really been focusing their attention on not having this happen or to lessen the damage or to lessen the intensity.
It has been talked about in most of the sacred books.
They are supernatural beings, that Which has never held a human form.
What they wish is, of course, to walk the land.
And yes, there is susceptibility, there is vulnerability, and there are those who seek those entities for a specific reason to gain power, to gain knowledge, to gain riches, and they will offer their souls and the souls of others in order to entice and to enhance what they are asking for.
Yes, it is, depending on the individual who is going to be doing the exorcism.
They have to be well prepared, well-grounded, and extremely spiritual because they are going to be putting their soul as well as their life in jeopardy.
Evelyn, somebody called early in the show and talked about a Ouija board.
Now, what I told that person, I hope I gave them good advice, but I said, look, I don't know if it's a Ouija board itself, but certainly there's intent.
When a bunch of people are having a party and think, oh, this would be fun.
Get out the Ouija board and let's call the dead or whatever.
I'm not so sure it's a Ouija board itself, but the intent of the people who sit down with that board is to open a door.
And, you know, once that door is open, why, it's kind of hard to tell who walks through, isn't it?
And if you do not put a shield of protection, if you do not prepare yourself before you go into a seance or before you use a tool that is going to be a portal to the other side, then you are asking for trouble.
Well, it is slowly being legalized in many states in the U.S. Federal government's not real happy about it, and they frequently rush in and try and change things.
But the movement, at least in the U.S., seems to be toward legalization.
It is something that just grows in the ground, right?
Let's go to the middle, upper middle, Bismarck, North Dakota.
And Patrick, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hi.
Hi.
I've seen a little bird when I was sitting outside of a bar at around 6, 5 in the morning.
And it's called the A-Ren.
But I know it's a sacred being.
And I wanted to know if she had seen it.
And there's a few other things that I'd like to mention.
Like the satanic symbol of Baphome, and you have the right-hand path and the left-hand path are kind of like a yin and yang thing.
And I think most times that you would see an image of Baphomy, it's evil.
But I think I've actually seen a benevolent form.
But the idea of a neutral energy or a gray energy, you know, like you've got your yin and yang and then a druid trinity symbol, which would be like a gray kind of, you know, ominous force that kind of controls the yin and the yang.
And I am dealing with psychic attack by people every day.
I'm hearing people say duh to me.
And that's from the Necronomicon.
And I've delved into the Necronomicon, and it has helped me.
But I'm suffering with a lot of demons.
And I'd like to be a stronger, superior person than I am now.
And I've talked to an exorcist in town here, and he's pondering whether he would do it.
And usually when I talk to him, I sound like an idiot, but he says I would have to give up all my spiritual beliefs that weren't Christian.
And that doesn't sound like a good compromise for me because I see so much virtue in Hindu mystical and Buddhism.
But the thing that occurred to me, which would be a blessing there, I don't know if you've ever heard of animism, but animism is a belief of spirits everywhere, even outer space, inanimate objects, people, animals, trees, whatever, streams and rivers and the sun, you know.
But, you know, I think the virtue of animism would be there if I were to turn over to the mystic Christian.
And I want to know if she thinks that I should be exorcised of demons by the Catholic priesthood here.
You know, I wonder sometimes, Evelyn, you know, people with psychological difficulties frequently think that they are possessed or, you know, they hear voices or what have you.
And how you separate I don't know whether that managed to come across the radio or not, but we're having a gigantic thunderstorm out here right now.
Well, you would have to completely do an investigation, have a conversation with the individual, find out the background, what's been going on, if they've had any problems before in the past.
It's a complete interrogation, practically.
But what this young man is talking about, he's given me so many things to ask.
First of all, as far as the pentagram is concerned, okay, he's talking about Buffomit, which is the goat of Mendes.
And there is no neutrality there.
There is no gray.
And as far as the pentagram, if it's two points up, it's satanic.
And so there is no gray.
If he wants to find a Trinity going, that would not be the way to do it.
And as far as a demon attack, he hasn't told me what kind of attack he's under, what is the symptoms, what kind of things are going on with him.
Is it happening in one place?
Is it happening at night?
Is there anything that is going on with his skin?
Are there any lesions?
Are there any bumps, bruises, scratches?
In other words, I'd have to really ask a lot of questions before I could tell him he sounds like he needs definitely psychic self-defense.
I don't know about an exorcism.
As far as the gentleman that he recommended or is recommending to him to give up his spirituality, that I don't trust at all.
You try to talk to somebody, even if it's a counselor, a psychiatrist, even a priest, most of the time, they will not believe it.
They don't want to believe it even exists.
There's a man out there that all of his life went through all of the martial arts, loved it, was drawn to it, didn't understand why, and yet today he knows why.
Because the last few years he came under psychic attack and he is now a spiritual warrior.
But he needed to know the discipline of the mind to be able to fight the kind of evil he is up against now.
Shadow people can sometimes be seen and they don't understand.
They think they're seeing an interdimensional being.
And yes, it can be, but at other times it is a familiar, that which has been cast, that which has been created by a practitioner in order to do you harm or to come upon you and investigate.
Boy, we've got a whiz-bang thunderstorm going on out there.
The power is flickering back and forth.
And so I'll cross fingers.
Hope it all sticks together for the remainder of the show, which is with Evelyn Paglini.
Be right back.
I am a creature of the night.
There's no question about that.
It's interesting.
Occasionally, when you fly from the United States to the flip side of the world, it sort of resets you, and for a while you're up during the day.
But, you know, I've done this show for so many years, decades actually, that slowly, you know, I think, oh, now it's wonderful.
I'm over here and I can actually stay awake during the day.
All that changes, and the slow creep begins until eventually I'm staying awake once again until 2 or 3, typically, 3 o'clock in the morning is when we go to bed.
And it doesn't seem to matter, even though I have that sort of opportunity when I fly from here to there or there to here, to turn it all around, I slowly creep to staying up late again, and that's me, a creature of the night.
We have two seasons here in the Philippines, summer and the rainy season.
And we are presently in the rainy season with a very violent thunderstorm over us right now.
So the internet's in and out, and the power is going every now and then.
So we'll see how this hour goes with Dr. Evelyn Paglini and your calls.
It'll continue in a moment.
The weather is very much like Florida or Hawaii.
You know, it's the tropics, and so when it rains, it pours.
That old expression really, really does have effect here.
All right.
Evelyn Paglini, by the way, she's got a phone number.
Probably the easiest way for most of you, which is ARIA code 818-700-9345.
And then, you know, it sat up and just stared at me.
And it was so, it should have been dead to the point where its head was just kind of swaying back.
It was just horrific.
So I did get help in having him euthanized at a clinic.
And then the next night, I'm driving, and sure enough, same neighborhood, same bad feeling.
A rabbit literally just pops up, appears on the road, dead center of the vehicle.
It too is sitting up.
When I walk up to it, sure enough, it's missing most of its face.
And again, I had it euthanized.
Now, my question would be, I have had things that happen very negative.
This one is one of the top negative occurrences because of my love for animals.
And some of the negativity, I'm wondering if it came from my own biological mother, because when I was young, she was the source of all my abuse.
But she used to curse me literally outright verbally saying, I hope you have a daughter.
And I hope when you do give birth to a daughter, I hope she's hell.
And I hope she breaks your heart.
And at age six, I lost her.
And her curse came true.
I mean, I really am heartbroken.
I still have problems with that.
And it was hell raising her because she was very sick.
And then finally, we found out about a brain tumor, et cetera.
And then my mother would curse me of all kinds of other ills, you know, wish me doom.
And so.
So my questions were about whether or not all these animals were that well, whether or not, you know, your own biological mother could have stronger curses than others or whether demonic or whether these animals being there are representing something because with all the negativity, I'm also one of the only people that I know who has survived a serial killer and met another one.
And the odds of almost any of these events happening to one person are astronomical, much less numerous.
All right, Tina, for one thing, you have more than one thing that's going on.
I feel that, yes, an energy has been sent to you and has been accumulating on you, and that is why you have had a series of things that have been devastating to you.
As far as these animals are concerned, I got the distinct feeling that one, if not two, gave up their life to save you.
And I felt another was a warning.
But I know, I feel it in my soul, that you were stopped for a reason and they gave their life for you.
And I think if you had continued, you would have had an accident and not have walked away from it.
Oh, that feels better than what the church people told me.
They told me that something that negative would represent more to do with having problems with demons torturing me because growing up, oh my God, the stories I could tell you.
Okay, Wildcard Line, you're on here with Evelyn Paglini and Art Bell.
Good morning.
unidentified
Hi, Art and Evelyn.
My name is Joe.
I'm calling from Long Beach, California.
I was wondering, several years ago, I was, before I was ready to move out of Los Angeles and back home, to move from Los Angeles to back home, I was told by a girl who claimed to be psychic that there was a lot of negative energy being sent my way, and that if I didn't leave soon, that it would manifest and somehow hurt me.
And I had just a week or so after that, I was in a really bad car accident.
And I was just wondering, is there a way to tell if that is actually, if that was the truth?
And it seemed like there have been other weird, bad things that have happened to me after that event.
I don't know if it was the energy being sent by my roommates at the time.
It just sounds bizarre to me, but I was wondering if there's a way you know that I could tell what was happening.
With regard, let's circle back to the question she was asking, personal questions.
And I understand that you're not going to address that sort of thing on the air, but on a personal basis, when you do consultations, Evelyn, I take it that you do deal with those kinds of questions.
This is like a prayer because I am very in despair because coincidentally, my friend told me about this show.
That's what I've been listening to almost every night.
And I was hoping that something like this will be on air and then just happen today.
So it's wonderful.
But just to make the story short, I have a son and I have a boyfriend.
We live together.
And just two years ago, everything falls apart.
Just one bad event after another.
And before the summer, I had a dream that he was his ex-girlfriend.
And of course, he showed up, and then they had a fair.
So that's the end of that.
So now my family is apart, and I haven't seen my son for four months because he took him over the sea because it's just a mess.
And I also found out that this woman has a connection with Egypt.
She goes to Egypt quite a lot.
So it's very strange.
And also, over just before that happened, I saw a lot of crow.
Everywhere I go, I see just a mass amount of crow flying over my head, just driving down the road.
It will be crows everywhere.
At my work, crows will be near the lawn.
So I don't know.
I'm suspecting something is wrong, and I feel very deep connection with him, and I'm just heartbroken.
And recently, I just have a lot of strange dreams, just dreams after dreams, and I can't explain some violent dreams and something else.
Also, there's another dream, but he's with another woman, and I found out that in his country over the summer, he went to France, and he had a fair with another old girlfriend of his.
The crows are the messengers giving her the warning, and her own psychic ability is giving her the dreams that are coming true and that she's finding out later about him.
Honey, when you said you cleansed the house, what did you do?
unidentified
Well, we said the Lord's prayer, and we go around and we, you know, in each room, as we're saying Lord's prayer, we'll sprinkle salt in the corners, and that's all that we do.
On my website under Mystical Blend, go to Magic 101, and I have got the complete free instructions how to cleanse and protect the environment.
Please do that first, and you will probably notice within 24 hours a lifting and an energy release, and you will notice that your vitality will start to come back.
And you can also email me after you have completed that cleansing and protection.
And if you still are having sounds, then we will use bigger guns.
But I believe that's what you need first, honey.
You did not do a cleansing on this.
unidentified
They'll go away.
It's like they'll go away for, or it'll go away for a while, and then it comes back with a force.
Yeah, with a vengeance, yeah, because you're not really getting rid of it.
There's a complete cycle to go through, and you're not doing it.
And what I would want you to do is, do I have a couple of minutes?
Sure.
Once you do the cleansing protection that I have on the instructions, please, honey, get yourself either protection oil, rosemary oil, or rose geranium oil.
And what I want you to do, and this is very important, I want you to use the oil, putting it on the index finger of your power hand, which is your right hand if you're right-handed.
I want you to draw a circle on the headboard of your bed using the oil.
And then I want you to...
And you put it on the wall behind your head.
And then I want you to draw a cross in the center of that circle.
Now, while you're drawing the cross, and this is very important, I want you to say this out loud and with gusto.
There is no evil or negativity that can cross this barrier.
So be it.
It is done.
And now nothing and no one will get at you at night.
And then I want you to do the same thing on the inside and the outside of your bedroom door and your front door and your back door.
You're only going to change one word, and that word is threshold.
You're going to say there is no evil or negativity that can cross this threshold.
So be it.
It is done.
You are not cleansing that home, my dear.
unidentified
Obviously not.
It's been about eight, nine years, and it's still coming.
You can only open up one door or one Window in the back of the apartment or the home.
You will feel a buildup of energy as you go through the cleansing, and that is why you are pushing it toward the back of the house and eventually out of that window and that door.
Again, the entire instructions is on my website under Magic 101.
You know, Art, so many people out there have moved into an apartment and don't realize or a home and that they should cleanse that home before they move in or that apartment because walls have ears.
If people have been fighting and arguing in that home, it's going to seep in to the walls.
If people have been sick for a long, long time and suffering, that too is going to be there, let alone if there is a spirit or an energy force or a negativity that has been sent.
So you must cleanse the home because it'll start fights, arguments.
You know, Evelyn, there must be a lot of truth in that because in many, if not all, states, when you buy a home where something, whether there's, I don't know, been a murder or a haunting or something like that.
I have a client that has lost three deals because his mother died in the bedroom.
And once a cleansing is done, you will be able to breathe in that home.
But right now, even if someone would buy it, I would not want to live in it until it was cleansed because anybody living in there is going to get sick.
That woman was there for two and a half years dying of cancer.
Well, thank you, and thank you, Art, for having Dr. Paglini on.
The question I have is earlier you mentioned about earthquakes and some friends you were working with on diminishing the intensity of those quakes.
I've always been curious when earthquakes, fires, floods are presented to the coast audience, if there isn't an instantaneous spike of mass consciousness in the form of, oh, wow, I sure hope that doesn't happen, that may tend to diminish that.
And then, of course, on the repeat, once again, you're right on target, honey.
Wow.
And I'm curious as to the earthquakes you mentioned, of what magnitude, and is it possible one could happen up here in Northern California, or are they both going to be more oriented towards Southern California?
The only thing that's different in a Ouija board is it's a concentrated area, same thing in a seance.
When you're going to a haunted place, you're usually going to be traveling and you're trying to identify where it's at.
When you're calling a seance, you're bringing it to a specific place, but you're putting out a call and you're asking for it to use all of the energy in that room, including yourself, and even your bodily functions and your vocal cords, in order to make itself known, hopefully pleasing a violin in nonviolence.
Well, they do know that they are taking some risk.
And most of the time, they're going after residual haunting.
They are not trying to call upon a spirit or an entity and asking it to come in.
You're not asking for Aunt Lucy.
You're asking for anything.
And that's when you can get something that you didn't bargain for, something you didn't know was going to come through and you don't know how to deal with it.