Robert Collins, a career Air Force analyst, details Wright-Patterson’s alleged underground UFO vaults—60-year cover-ups tied to RIPAD drawings and black programs like Aurora—while citing unverified claims of extraterrestrial entities (EBEs) at Dulce’s TA-49, including a 4’3” being in a jumpsuit. He speculates on reverse-engineered tech like superconducting "Crystal Rectangles" and unstable hydrogen isotopes (H5/5H), though Los Alamos denies direct links. Callers introduce fringe theories: Mars terraforming, Iraq’s $53M embassy as a permanent base, and post-9/11 psychic recruitment. Bell dismisses conspiracy claims but underscores systemic secrecy, questioning whether governments hide more than just UFOs—like climate control experiments or election integrity flaws—while hinting at deeper institutional distrust. [Automatically generated summary]
From the high desert in the great American Southwest, I bid you all.
Good evening, good morning, good afternoon, wherever you may be in the world's prolific time zones, each and every one covered by this program, the very largest of its kind in the world.
It's called Coast to Coast AM, and it certainly is my honor and privilege to be escorting you through now the second half of the weekend.
Great to be here.
Next hour, Robert Collins, first-time guest on the program.
If you've ever wanted the lowdown on Wright Pat Air Force Base and their part in ufology, he's going to be the guy.
Also, underground tunnels and bunkers, Los Alamos, Dulcie, Area 51S4, the whole shooting match coming up next hour.
All right, I want to remind the audience, next Friday is the tentative birth, the scheduled birth of Asia Rain Bell, June 1st, 2011.
So presuming it's going to be on schedule, and I do, I'll be gone next weekend, enjoying the birth of my daughter.
What a miracle.
There's just no other way to describe it.
It's a miracle.
Every time it happens, it's a miracle.
And somebody sent me an email and said it's God's way of saying the world should go on.
And I agree with that.
All right, let's look for a moment at the world.
Riverside, California.
You remember the blaze that killed five federal firefighters last year?
It has now emboldened those who question the cost of saving the ever-expanding number of homes on the fringe of wilderness.
The five perished last fall while protecting an empty mountain vacation home from the Southern California fire that authorities say was started by a 36-year-old automechanic now charged with murder, I would think.
Five dead.
American forces freed 42 kidnapped Iraqis.
Some of them had been hung from ceilings, and they'd been obviously tortured for months.
In a raid Sunday on an al-Qaeda hideout north of Baghdad, U.S. military officials said the operation launched on tips from residents showed that Iraqis in the turbulent province were beginning to turn against Sunni insurgents and beginning to trust U.S. troops.
Good, I guess.
The seven women pooled money, this is in Darfar, to rent a donkey and a cart, then ventured out of the refugee camp to gather firewood, hoping to sell it for cash to feed their families.
Instead, they say, a wooded area, in a wooded area just a few hours' walk away, they were gang raped, beaten, and robbed.
Naked and devastated, they fled back to Khaimah in Dafar.
A U.S. immigration agency say that anti-terrorism is their primary mission.
Now, this is interesting, but if you look carefully, they attempted, they tried to deport only 12 people, 12 people, on terrorism-related charges from 2004 through 2006.
According to a private research study released Sunday, the group of 12 represents a tiny fraction of the 814,073 people the government tried to remove from the country during those three years.
The study's authors acknowledged the figure understates the anti-terrorism effort by the Homeland Security Department's immigration agencies.
I would say this.
I was talking to Whitley a little earlier in the evening, and I think that we owe a debt of gratitude to Homeland Security.
Because since 9-11, nothing that we know about has happened.
Really, not here in the U.S. And I think they've stopped a lot.
And I think when they stop something, potentially even having stopped a nuclear incident, putting it that way, we don't hear about it.
So these poor agencies catch a lot of criticism, you know, for the times when something gets through, but they don't get credit when they catch somebody and keep it quiet or catch something about to happen.
So I think they deserve a lot more credit.
Iran summoned the Swiss ambassador Sunday to protest what it called, recently called, uncovered U.S. Espionage Networks.
State television reported the day before the Islamic Republic planned ambassador-level talks with the U.S. and Iraq.
The Iranian Foreign Ministry's head of American Affairs met with the ambassador, Philip Welty, demanded a necessary explanation of spy networks around, said it had uncovered on Saturday.
Well, I'm sure we've got them.
Interesting.
Las Vegas.
Workers pulled gallery platinum records out of cardboard boxes on Sunday ahead of what's being called largest auction of Jackson family memorabilia ever.
Auction staff unpacked and displayed more than 1,100 lots, including rhinestone studded costumes, faded documents, and other mementos at the Hard Rock Hotel and Casino.
The items are expected to fetch, get this, millions of dollars from bidders from around the globe.
Get your bid in now.
All right, that's the way the world looks.
Never all that great.
In a moment, we'll look into some other news.
Now, this is certainly interesting.
The Milky Way, in infrared, as it's seen today, in three trillion years, physicists Lawrence Krauss and Robert J. Scherer predict that only an island universe made from the Milky Way and its nearby galactic local group neighbors will be even perceivable in an overwhelmingly dark void.
We're going to be alone.
Science Daily, when Dutch astronomer William Desider proposed a static model of the universe in the early 1900s, he was about three trillion years ahead of his time.
Now, physicists Lawrence Krauss from Case Western Reserve University and Robert J. Schur from Vanderbilt University predict that trillions of years into the future, the information that currently allows us to understand how the universe expands will have all disappeared over the visible horizon.
What remains will be an island universe made from the Milky Way and its nearby galactic local group neighbors in an overwhelmingly dark void.
The researcher's article, The Return of the Static Universe in the End of Cosmology, was awarded one of the top prizes for 2007 by the Gravity Research Foundation.
It will be published in the October issue of the Journal of Relativity and Gravitation.
So that's our deep, dark future, assuming that we make three trillion years from now.
And that's a hell of an assumption.
All right, here's the lead story on Whitley's site.
NASA scientist warns of catastrophic sea level.
Dr. J.E. Hansen, who is nothing other than head of NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Science and their lead climate scientist, is warning that sea levels could rise 15 feet over the next 100 years and saying that the scientific community's fear of saying this publicly is threatening our ability to act before it is too late.
Sea level rise will cause a continuous catastrophe starting much sooner as one low-lying area after another is submerged and storm surges become steadily more dangerous.
Hansen says, quote, I suggest that a scientific reticence is inhibiting the communication of a threat of a potentially large sea level rise.
Delay is dangerous because of system inertias that could create a situation with future sea level changes out of our control.
I argue for calling together a panel of scientific leaders to hear evidence and issue a prompt, plain, written report on current understanding of the sea level change issue.
One man, they really cannot quiet, Dr. Hansen.
In the UK, 11 species of butterflies are making their earliest recorded appearances this spring.
Now, that means they'll die off earlier in the season as well, since butterflies typically live for a very short time anyway.
Some species of butterflies are in the UK.
They're being seen in new areas.
Reports on butterfly populations in the U.S. are not available, probably because of the lid put on reporting about global warming by the administration.
A team of American and Irish researchers have discovered that some female sharks can reproduce without even having sex.
First time that scientists have found the unusual capacity in such ancient vertebrate species.
The report that sharks can reproduce asexually through a process known as pathogenesis is being published online today in the British journal Biology Letters.
Researchers have observed pathogenesis in certain species of birds, reptiles, amphibians, and bony fishes, but the new findings suggest that vertebrates' ability to reproduce without sex evolved much earlier than scientists had thought.
I wonder if men, women, you know, guys, us, if we were to disappear from the face of the Earth, would that be the end of humanity?
Or would the human female species begin to asexually reproduce?
Scary thought.
For the first time, astronomers have discovered a planet far, far away that might be very similar to Earth.
I told you about this some time ago.
This distant world, which pirouettes around a dim bulb of a star with the unglamorous name Galise 581, may possibly sport a landscape that would be vaguely familiar to us.
A panorama of liquid oceans, drifting continents.
If so, there's a chance it may be home to life, perhaps even advanced life.
It is so interesting, as a matter of fact, that Asseti is going to take another look.
Now, it would be hard because it's 20 light years away.
That means we would have to send a signal and say, how are you?
That would take 20 years to get there.
They would say, we're fine.
That would take another 20 years to get back.
Now they found another planet, a bizarre world of scorching hot ice, shrouded in a steamy atmosphere that may have been found, may have been found, mind you, characterizing the Neptune-sized planet as an important milestone on the way to detecting and characterizing Earth-like planets.
It could harbor life.
Astronomers have discovered now more than 200 planets orbiting other stars called extrasolar planets or exoplanets, if you will.
Almost all of these were detected by the way their gravity makes the parent stars wobble, but this technique called the radial velocity method, a radial velocity method, reveals very little about the planet except for the size of the orbit and an estimated size of the mass.
Astronomers can learn a lot more by watching transits of planets that pass in front of their parent stars as seen from Earth.
Careful analysis of the dimming this causes can provide clues to the planet's composition and structure, but the brightness dips are small, difficult to detect for all but the very largest planets.
So it's another one.
We're almost daily now discovering a new planet.
Pretty cool, huh?
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We may be able to travel to that newly discovered Earth-like planet sooner than we think since a physicist leaves he's found a way to travel at least close to the speed of light.
Sysorg.com reports that researcher Franklin Fieber is making discoveries that will solve, quote, the two greatest engineering challenges to near the speed of light, identifying an energy source capable of producing the acceleration and limiting stresses on humans and equipment during rapid acceleration.
He says, based on this research, I expect a mission to accelerate a massive payload to, quoting, a good fraction of light speed, end quote, will be launched before the end of the century.
These anti-gravity solutions of Einstein's theory can change our view of our ability to travel to the far reaches of the universe.
Sharks and whales, by the way, are not the only sea creatures being fished into extinction.
The fish that much of the world relies on for food is now going extinct as well.
Part of the cause may be global warming.
Most of it, though, can be blamed on simply overfishing.
In BBC News, Richard Black writes, quote, there'll be virtually nothing left to fish from the seas by the middle of the century if the current trends continue.
According to a major scientific study, quotes researcher Steve Hullumbay is saying, quote, unless we fundamentally change the way we manage all the ocean species together as working ecosystems, then this century is the last century of wild seafood.
God, that really is.
There it is again.
The end of wild, well, the end of fish in the ocean.
That's really something to contemplate.
West of the Rockies, good morning.
You're on the air.
unidentified
Hello there.
Hi.
Question for you.
Matt Gorgan, curious to see if you guys are interested in doing a special on the, I don't know if it's pronounced correctly, but the Maltunk chair.
And everything in the room stopped, and they stared at me, and one of them said that it is a semi-eternal group of beings that ruin the galaxy, seeding life.
And by the time you got done, sir, you'd have better border protection than we have here in the U.S. Now, let me offer a rebuttal to what you just said.
Assuming that we could do what you said, why not, on the other hand, let them come in because they're hell-bent on killing us and kill them, which is what's going on right now.
And we can use unmanned drones between border crossings 24-7, and anyone coming through, there's signs posted deadly force unless you use the designated border crossings.
Bugs is the guy that shot a couple of creatures, for anyone who's wondering who Bugs is.
Bugs or someone he knows and trusts, goes to the location where the two creatures are buried and gathers some hair and skin samples.
Then he or you or whoever sends those samples to two independent labs for DNA analysis.
When the reports come in that state unequivocally that the creatures are not of human origin, Bugs can then be relieved of his grief that he may have inadvertently shot some primitive humans.
He'll also be free of the fear of retribution by the law.
He can then exhume the carcasses and present them to the scientific community for further examination.
If, on the outside chance, the creatures do prove to be human, then Bugs can stop wondering about it and make his peace.
The hitch there, of course, is getting the people and the labs who would do the work and, I guess, protect bugs along the way.
No, his idea about the border was probably a good one.
After all, the insurgents are pouring in across the borders.
There's no question about it.
I guess in some ways, and I've said this before, we're there now, and I'm not going to argue anymore about the wisdom of going into Iraq in the first place or not.
The fact is, we're there.
So what do we do?
I guess we continue to fight those that want to kill us, but there's got to be an exit or pacification strategy, a workable one, drawn up somewhere along the line.
We just don't see it happening yet, and it certainly is a real puzzle.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
Hello.
Going once, going twice, gone.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Yes, good evening, Mr. Bell.
Thank you so much for taking my call.
I do believe that that was very excellent, his suggestions about Bigfoot and how to exit Iraq.
I do believe that if we went back to the way they were covering Vietnam and show each and every one of those coffins come back and we'll say, oh no, we got to relive that nightmare.
Myself, I'm retired Air Force, so I'm totally supporting those troops 100% because when I was nine years old, we were getting letters from a classmate's brother who was in the trenches, in country, writing by, burning the Midnight Oil and writing letters and just we totally supported them.
Sir, just about everybody, you don't hear anybody who doesn't support the troops.
That's just plain anti-American.
Everybody supports the troops.
It is important to draw a line between supporting the troops and supporting the fact of the war itself.
Actually, I'm pretty close to supporting both at this point.
I thought it was foolish prior to our going in.
I certainly didn't support it.
And those of you who are longtime listeners know that.
But we're there now.
And I really do believe that we are fighting an enemy that ultimately, perhaps not right away, but ultimately, given a free hand to take Iraq and turn it again into something awful, would then sponsor across the seas as many people to kill Americans as they could muster.
I don't think there's a whole lot of doubt about that, and you really should keep that in mind before saying we should just pack up and go away.
And I just wanted to share about a 10,000-mile ghost hunt on a motorcycle.
I'm going to take off on June the 1st and cover the entire United States, mostly in the Northwest, down the west coast, and then back the southern route all the way back to North Carolina.
I hadn't been up in that area that much, but when I go down the West Coast, I'm going to be in search for Maryland Monroe's ghost and then down in the Hollywood, California area.
Why do you feel as though you have to physically travel to find Maryland's or anybody else's ghost?
You might be able to conjure them up right there in North Carolina and save yourself and others the CO2 in the atmosphere and the gas prices.
unidentified
Well, that's true.
But I have such a large appetite for ghost hunting.
I've already covered coast to coast before, but it's just the thrill of going to places at a fast rate because I feel like when I go to places at a rate like that, that I kind of bring ghosts with me, if that makes any sense.
Like kind of when I go into places and go to other places, it kind of somehow or another either comes with me or when I go to the other place, it's more out to be more attracted to me.
For example, take the world leaders, and instead of having a war that involves all the citizens, the able-bodied citizens of the individual associated countries, you take the leaders and let them fight it out.
But that doesn't work.
It's just sort of a, I guess, a satisfying intellectual exercise.
Now, I thought the straight jackets was kind of a macabre touch.
I thought it was an interesting theory, you know, with all the global warming talk that's going on and how people don't see us leading into an ice age just because the Earth is warming, but I guess it's a possibility that it could be.
I watched a couple of anti-global warming pieces on the internet earlier today, and it was interesting.
They made their points as well.
So I don't know.
By fire or ice, I haven't figured it out fully yet, but I'd put my money, I think, on fire or heat.
unidentified
I see.
Well, I also thought there was one other interesting thing about it, how the scientist that was working on it, his question was, where would life be if at all, if the Earth was totally frozen?
And he discovered that when ice melts at a fast rate, it gets cloudy.
But when it melts at a very slow rate, it's very clear.
And any sunlight would go straight through to the middle.
And he found that there would be some kind of algae or some kind of life somewhere, even if the Earth was completely frozen.
The places life can exist where you never would imagine it to be so.
The volcano vents very, very deep in the ocean harbor life.
Life surrounds them.
It's just amazing.
There's life going on in places that, well, if you apply the standard of where life can exist here to even some of the harsher planets that we've examined and declared unlivable, there would be some form of life, assuming that life is abundant.
And I do.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hi, Art.
It's John from Calling for the Poconos in Pennsylvania.
Hey, I'm calling about those Chad photos of the drone.
Very classic photos.
I'm just surprised nobody else has done this yet, but I head Pocono Paranormal Research, my wife Liza and my friend David, and we did some research on these and we drew them in on PaintShop Pro, drew them in really good, negative image, and it's blatantly obvious that they're cut and paste.
I don't know if anybody else has done this or you've done this.
Well, I just wanted to offer my opinion on the Levo Inbergens and our boarders around here.
I think it's a safe bet to say that a lot of them are coming over here to fill the jobs that American workers aren't willing to do for the rate of pay for these jobs.
Well, I guess the jobs are not worth what an American would be willing to do them for.
So if we did pay them a decent American wage to do a lot of these jobs, well then you'd have Americans doing them, I would guess.
But again, the jobs are not willing to pay the kind of money that Americans would demand to do those jobs.
And that's why we need those workers.
And we do need them.
U.S. government recognizes that, and that's why we have a program to bring them in.
I'm Art Bell.
This is what I've been waiting for.
And I hope our telephone connection holds up.
I understand it's been a little problematic, but Robert Collins was career Air Force serving in the fields of avionics, ground communications, engineering physics, and intel intelligence, foreign technology division at Wright Pat, gaining an in-depth understanding of all the career fields.
After 22 years, he left public service to pursue the subject of UFOs full-time, living on an Air Force retirement, supplemented by odd jobs, and his many adventures within the Air Force.
He was tuned into the world of UFOs by Ernie Kellerstrauss, I believe it is, in 1985.
Ernie was a retired Air Force Lieutenant Colonel who worked at the FTD, Adaby Foreign Technology Division, until retiring.
After performing some research, he concluded that the government UFO cover-up was real and went to great lengths to uncover the cover-up, which spanned over 60 years.
So, in a moment, Robert Collins.
First time on the air on Coast to Coast AM, Robert Collins, welcome.
There's got to be a trigger event, something that got you started.
unidentified
Well, let's see here.
Okay, now I know where you're coming from.
Well, it started back in, what, 1985 when I was sitting there as an analyst in the foreign technology division in the field of theoretical physics and just chatting away with people there.
And all of a sudden, the subject of UFOs came up.
And one of those people in the office said, well, there's somebody you want to talk to.
And so he gave me the name of one Ernie Callistraus.
And of course, by that time, Ernie was retired.
And I called Ernie, and he gave me one walloping story, which I'll never forget to this day.
But the initial conversation, I mean, did you initiate it?
Did you sit across the table from somebody and say, you know, what do you know about UFOs?
unidentified
Well, for some reason, when you're in a vault there, all the kinds of information fly around within the vault.
And the subject of UFOs just came up.
I don't know whether I brought it up or somebody else did.
And they said, well, as I say, there's somebody you should talk to.
And so there I got a hold of Ernie, and then he gave me some incredible stories, which I promptly wanted to check out with everybody else and verified that this guy was not nutcages.
I mean, can you give us an overview of what Ernie told you that set you on fire?
unidentified
One incident was the F-106 incident at Misawa, Japan back in 1959, where they had some specially modified 106s, especially equipped with new types of air-to-air radar.
And they sent one of these things up to intercept a UFO that would normally come over.
Normally the pattern would be they normally come over to the base and sit there and hover.
So on this particular day, they sent up one of these 106s to intercept it.
And the pilot got within firing range, and he asked ground control if he had permission to fire.
And ground control told him, well, we'll call the Pentagon and let's see if we can get the OK for you to do that.
So the short story is that he got the OK and he fired his salvo of missiles at this UFO and they all detonated, but the UFO was still there.
The pilot by that time was in a full panic.
He told ground control, it's still in the air.
The missiles didn't have any effect on it.
And by that time, according to the story, the tractor beam came out of the UFO and latched on the 106.
And the ground controllers could hear the pilots screaming and yelling as this thing was being pulled into the UFO.
If you were to fire a salvo of missiles, whatever he had at the time, into a UFO, was it a disc, typical disc?
unidentified
It's a typical, you're right, typical oval-looking shape, disc-shaped kind of object, right?
And these things used to, back in the 50s, especially around the Salvo, I understand, that they used to just sit there and come in and just sit for hours and hours and just hover above the base.
You know, that's kind of like taking a high-powered pistol and pumping six shots into somebody in front of you and having them smile at you.
Uh-oh.
I mean, what, Robert, if you know, was the authorizing rationale to fire at something like this in the first place?
Many of us have wondered about this.
I mean, presumably something oval-shaped, defying gravity, having come light years to get here, Probably wouldn't be something you want to shoot at mostly.
unidentified
Well, I don't know the mentality of the people who made that decision.
I don't know how much they knew about what the Air Force knew starting from 1947 up to that period in 1959.
I don't know who the bureaucrats were in the Pentagon that said, yeah, I'll go ahead and try it.
Maybe they just want to see how their new weapon systems would affect these UFOs.
So there was another incident, and then you tried to confirm these, and I'll be very interested in what you did.
So what is the other one?
unidentified
Well, according to what he said, there's a compound on Sandia Base back in the early 60s that was used to do chemical testing on animals.
And it's right across the street from where Lovelace is today.
If you go down to Sandia Base, if you get on the base, on the south end of the base, it's called the Loveless Institute.
And they do testing on animals.
You can hear the dogs barking in the back of the compound.
So they test on dogs, too.
But back in 64, they were doing testing on horses and monkeys and other exotic or different types.
I don't remember all the different types of animals.
But Ernie and his friend Bob was in this compound, and according to what he told me, they were doing chemical testing on alien body parts, radiation testing.
Oh, my God.
And those two stories, and then, of course, there's...
Yeah, radiation to see, to see how the body parts respond to radiation.
A number of people that I've interviewed over the years, including John Lear, has had a number of periods in his career when he just said, look, I'm washing my hands of this.
You know something about, and I've really always been curious about these underground vaults, these hangars, all these underground things that are said to be under Wright-Patterson, and what's hidden there.
How much do you actually know about that, Robert?
unidentified
Well, let me try to put it this way.
We have enough information that if we had an interested party like Congress willing to investigate that, we could prove that those things are there in a matter of days.
We're on radio anyway, so what we've got to try to do is describe, you know, if somebody lost their security clearance over this and you've got it in a book, then it's public knowledge, right?
At this point.
unidentified
If we got an object that we were given permission, we could prove the case there in a couple days.
Well, anywhere from a size of 100 by 100 feet, which is 1,000 square feet, all the way up to, or I should say all the way down to some little small vault area, which is down by what we call the med, used to be the medical center or the biological medical study center, which is down the hill from where the main vaults are at.
And that's where I understand that's where they brought up.
These tunnels you could drive a pickup truck through.
And how much do we know about what's stored in these vaults?
unidentified
Well, there's nothing stored there anymore.
All this was they move faster.
They keep track of the public attitudes and public ideas and what the public might Know about this stuff, and as soon as they think they're in trouble, they take all the stuff and they move it.
So, all this stuff was moved out of Right Pat in 82 and 83.
It'll say that down on the lower right corner, I believe it's been a while since I looked at some of those documents so that the so that in a sense what it's saying, it's exempt from disclosure.
Yeah, he had a huge interest in it and finding out whether those bolts were really there or not.
And so he did a lot of his own investigation, and plus we were working together, and he gave me a lot of those drawings, which I ran copies of them, scanned them in, and then destroyed the original copies so he wouldn't get in trouble.
They always use front organizations to hide what they're really trying to do in some places.
And that's normally designated as a munitions testing area.
But then in a certain building, you'd walk into, and you'd go to a certain elevator, and this elevator was behind a vault door, and they'd have to open the vault door up before you could go in the elevator.
And this elevator would be down route five stories or so, and then it would open up on the bottom.
And he said the underground facility there, which we call the Dulcie Complex, was pretty extensive.
He said he just saw, went into a room and escorted into a room and sat down in the back with a friend.
And a lieutenant colonel or a Fulbright Colonel, sorry, a Fulbright Colonel walked up to him and had him sign a special security clearance for the EB-2 interview.
So as it's described in the book, describe it here.
He said that I'm trying to remember all the details about a 4'3 alien walked in in a tight-fitting jumpsuit, and there were three civilians there at the front table.
I think there was a colonel and two civilians sitting right there at the interview table.
And he wasn't sure whether this EBE was either talking verbally or telepathically.
He couldn't tell where the sound was coming from, but he could hear it, but he couldn't see the mouth of the EBE moving.
Well, when you say Right Pet checked out, what exactly do you mean?
Do you mean that the documents that you got that got this guy's clearance pulled checked out?
unidentified
Or the documents show you where walls were put up, where stairwells were at, where elevators were at, where tunnel entries were at, where surveillance cameras were at, and then there's nothing there.
I mean, all of this could be true, Robert, but it could be for a national security purpose that either did or didn't have anything to do with ETs or E.T. artifacts or whatever.
unidentified
Well, they certainly pulled this guy's clearance for some reason, I guess.
Well, anytime you disclose something that's national security, trust me, your security clearance is going to go, is going to vaporize.
unidentified
Well, we must have hit something, but I'm sure you did.
it certainly was pretty extensive, you know, and the way this thing was blocked, and these entryways were blocked, and concreted up, and walls were put up, and that the people there would never know there was anything there.
People today there work at RightPat, have no idea where any of this stuff would be.
But, I mean, with respect to what you've told us about Dulcie, about Wright Pat, and we sort of briefly touched on Area 51, and we'll talk about S4.
unidentified
Well, I'm not so much of a person who goes out who has seen things.
What I do is collect information and put it together.
We call it intelligence in the Air Force.
Sure.
And so I take all the source information plus the things I learn on my own and put it together, try to check it, which we've been able to do with other sources, with other facilities, and with other people, and put it together and put out a report.
You claim to know, apparently, from one of the questions here, how the anti-grav systems, anti-gravity systems work on reverse-engineered UFOs, which you believe, I guess, were flying, right?
unidentified
Again, back to what the sources say, they've been flying these since, what, the early 60s.
And according to what the sources say, they've crashed a lot in the Gulf of Mexico.
The Cash Landrum case was an example of that, where in that case, that object over Texas got in trouble and it's surrounded by helicopters.
And, of course, Betty and Barney Hill.
Yeah, got severely burned by the radiation from that thing.
That was supposedly one of our reverse-engineered objects or craft.
H5, yeah, again, H5, it was created, but it's extremely unstable.
And it's being used, or they're trying to use it as a catalyst, which will extract energy out of the vacuum, which is something that Howell Putoff has been looking for for a long time.
And it's, again, Los Alamos is trying to find ways to stabilize it from what I understand.
And they've got a couple patented devices to do that.
Again, that's covered in the book.
And that's about as much as I know about it.
You're dealing with the frontiers of physics and this kind of stuff, just like you're dealing with superconductors and rotating superconductors and anti-gravity and configuring propulsion systems.
And even the people at Los Alamos are having a heck of a time with the alien craft, according to what they're telling me.
Can you tell us who they would be?
Well, they don't give me their proper names.
They give me first names, which you find out later on are not real.
And you get sent information, but they're not going to ever tell you who they are.
Is there anything that we should be covering, you know, really big revelations that we should cover that we haven't covered in the program so far?
unidentified
Other than the color, well, we covered the color-coded badging and the compartmentalization at Area 51, Contonents.
There's Dulles, Angleton, and Helms and the Doty family.
And Engleton and his job in CIA as deputy director of counterintelligence and his association with Dulles and Helms.
And always kind of a knock on the door where he could just walk in at any time and advise these two directors of anything in the intelligence world, anything that was going on.
And he had an enormous power until he got fired by Kobe in 1974.
But if we had all of this reverse-engineered technology, some of it no doubt applicable to weaponry, we'd be using it to protect our young men and women in Iraq.
And if we're not, why not?
unidentified
Because what the sources or the scientists At Los Alamos, tell me, you know, and they tell me indirectly, of course, to protect themselves, is that the materials, they're having a real tough time with the materials on the craft because the materials are not made.
We can't make any material on this planet that would match anything on these craft.
And the second problem is they can't properly configure the propulsion system so that the craft are stable.
In other words, the ones that we make, we have ones that do fly, they call them ARVs, they repeatedly have stability problems with them and they crash.
I've been having those problems for over roughly since 1956 up to the present where everything they've tried didn't succeed.
And what I was told is that we had to go back to the drawing board and learn the alien physics.
Is there anything about the alien physics that can be differentiated and explained from what we understand as our world's physics?
unidentified
Well, it's just like looking at that crystal rectangle.
And when I briefly described there was a crystal rectangle, our scientists don't understand that.
Again, that's covered in the documents in the book.
And so what they do with these kind of things is they go as far with them as they can.
They test them.
This crystal rectangle was flown on shuttle missions and brought to the space station before the Columbia disaster.
And we don't know if the Columbia had one of these crystal rectangles because there's more than one.
There's a couple of them.
And they use them to, obviously, from the testing they've done, they give tremendous power output, and there's no power limit as to what as far as the demand is concerned.
That information is right out of those documents, plus the information I've gotten from my sources over the years long before I ever got those documents.
He's out big bear there in California, and he's the son of his father.
His father was in the Air Force, and he's the Timothy was in the Marines for about four years, and he got out, and he just does odd jobs there at Big Bear.
I think he might have, I'm not too sure of this.
His mother has a disability, I believe, or she's getting old or something.
I haven't talked to Tim in three or four months, so I really don't know all the details of what he's doing right now.
There's been a lot of hostility, resentment, and name-calling, and then a lot of people who have just thought it was great, was really great, and they loved it.
Well, I can't comment on the book, but most of what you've had to say, by your own admission, is, in fact, none of it really is first-hand information, but rather collected information from other sources.
unidentified
Right.
Most of it is collected information from other sources except for the stuff that was done at RIPAT.
Well, if all this is true, it is surprising that you have not yet received a visit by the FBI or worse.
unidentified
Well, there's something here that if you pay attention to something that you know might be real, if they were to pay attention to me, that would just draw the attention of everybody else.
Most of the information, I was hoping that it was going to be first person, you know, I saw, I handled, I was part of, that kind of thing.
But most of it was second or third-hand information with the exception, as he pointed out, of the documents, which describe the underground areas, apparently, below Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, and certainly that has worth.
What I'm going to do is open the phone lines, and we're going to go to open lines.
We've pretty well exhausted the material that Robert had, in my opinion.
So anybody with any topic at all is welcome.
Let's do open lines.
West of the Rockies, here it comes.
800-618-8255.
That's 800-618-8255.
East of the Rockies, 800-825-5033.
First time callers, area code 818-501-4721.
818-501-4721.
And the wildcard line, many of those, area code 818-501-4109.
If you're outside the country, a free portal for you at 800-893-0903.
Contact your overseas operator and tell her you want to call the toll-free number, 800-893-0903.
Now, when you say H5, that's a compound, a molecule.
But he said it was an isotope, so it would be more accurate to describe it as 5H, meaning it has five neutrons.
And also, I wanted to suggest that the next time you have somebody on that talking about global warming, that they actually have numbers and stuff, because the expert you had on yesterday, when you read the email that was quoting all the numbers, he didn't say anything about the numbers or any numbers to contradict those numbers.
Yep, it's something that I think is incredibly important and potentially will affect our lives, even our lives.
It could come that soon.
I thought the statement that I read to you earlier this evening was pretty important stuff.
And if we get that kind of sea level rise, I think there's no question about the fact that places like Old Manhattan, for example, are going to be in a very, very great deal of trouble.
And this makes it a gigantic topic.
Now, I haven't made any absolute decisions on it.
The people who are pro-global warming think that it's settled science.
That's what they're calling it now.
That there's really no point in debating the issue anymore.
It's happening, they say.
Dr. Hansen, who's head of NASA's Goddard Institute, is saying essentially it's going to happen, and we better get our heads out from wherever they are right now and begin doing something about it, or we're going to be wading in the water pretty soon.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Yes, I was wondering if you saw the Science Channel presentation where after 2001, when they grounded the airplanes for three days, there were some scientists in California where they were doing a phenomenon called, I forgot what it was called, but the way it is now, the daytime temperatures are cooler and the nighttime temperatures are warmer.
And it would have been an interesting time to observe the difference that was made, if any, in the amount of heat reaching the Earth.
Because certainly these contrails, forget chemtrails, contrails do spread out and occasionally cause hazy days, and that's got to cause less sunlight to reach the Earth.
unidentified
Correct.
Well, what the scientists found out was that after the three days that the temperatures were reversing to the way they are supposed to be.
If more sunlight was reaching Earth, which would be the presumed thing that would occur if contrails were not in the sky, then you would think it would get warmer.
unidentified
Well, I think they were testing the smog and the jet fuel, I guess, from all the, you know, like there's about 4,000 jets in the air at one time.
Well, again, you would think, wouldn't you, that there would be more sunlight reaching the Earth, therefore higher temperatures, presumably, measurably, On the earth.
He had said something that was really disturbing to me about a half human, half bat type creature that he'd seen down there.
Now, this really didn't sink in well with me.
It really hit me bad when about three months before Halloween of last year, a friend of mine and me were outside of our complex, out at the picnic benches.
We just had a barbecue, and there's an open field near our complex.
We can tamper with our own genetics, and you just know, you just know, in places like that, they're doing these kinds of experiments, and it's as black as it can get, but we're doing it.
I just know we are.
unidentified
If something like that does exist and it's out here flying about, I mean, we really got a problem.
Sounds like the Philippine Oswong, half human, half something like a bat.
unidentified
Yeah, I'd never seen anything like this.
And then following that experience, a bunch of other people around the neighborhood here had mentioned that they'd seen something large like that flying around.
When I saw it, it was about 30 feet above the tree line, so I could see that it had leathery-type wings that were bat-type wings, and the thing was just gliding along.
The Prompt Valley is used as an overflight area for a lot of things.
Last week we had all kinds of Air Force jets flying low over the valley, and they said, yes, it's true they were because, well, normally they kind of skirt the mountains, but they said we need a sort of a semi-urban area to test over.
We have the ability to tamper with the human genome.
We may not exactly claim we can yet, but, well, we can.
And so I think it's being done.
And whether something like that man just described exists or not, I do believe in underground areas, in black budget facilities somewhere or another, we're doing it.
They would hire these angry young men from all over the world that loved to fight, and they would bring them in there on a mercenary basis, and they would have a wonderful reputation as soldiers.
And instead of sending our militia and our even our volunteer army over there, the money we've spent on this operation, if we would set up a foreign legion and invite these guys from all over the world that don't have jobs to come in and be trained to fight as a police force.
And then divide the country into the three original places that used to be with the tribes that like each other, the Kurds and the Shiites, and before the British tried to make them one, you know?
The Sunnis, the Shiites, and the Kurds.
A three-country deal has these foreign who aren't Americans, probably Arabs, the Arabs that can't find work, and the Lebanese and all those guys, have them keeping order.
And until this government, it can be a police force for this government, until they can get their act together, and we supervise them, or the UN supervise them if we could get them to.
And it seemed like that kind of a strong police force might do it, because there'd be less resentment, especially if they hired Arabs, than there is for us being in there, which just irritates them.
But I think that our objective, in fact, that's a question worth asking.
What do you think our objective is now with Iraq?
What do you think our long-term objective is with Iraq?
I believe it's to have military bases there, to have a geopolitical presence in the Middle East, to have bases from which we can launch attacks if we have to against Iran or Syria.
Despite what a lot of you I know think, I'm not an anti-Bush person at all.
I kind of like President Bush in most ways.
I think he's done a pretty good job, and I think a lot of people have not given him the credit where he is due credit.
And one of those areas is keeping America relatively safe.
Since 9-11, not a hell of a lot's happened.
And I said this earlier in the program.
I'm going to say it again.
And that is not so much as a human hair, for the most part, inside the U.S. has been hurt since 9-11.
The agencies charged Homeland Security and others with keeping us safe, apparently, have done so because 9-11 proved there are a lot of people who want us dead.
They want us hurt.
In fact, they don't want us on the planet.
So somebody's been doing a pretty good job, and my sense is, and I've had some reports that I consider credible, that a number of things have very nearly happened, but have been stopped.
And the agencies don't get credit for that.
On the wildcard line, or one of them, you're on the air.
The only water as fuel experiment I know that's got some credibility is a fellow, believe it or not, in the Philippines who is said to be running a vehicle on water.
Now, I can't confirm that, but I have reason to believe it is so.
unidentified
Well, apparently this guy is out of Akron, and he was looking for a cure for cancer.
He's a cancer survivor himself and he was using regular radio waves he was an electrical engineer and he was using regular radio waves introduced to water and then all he did was add salt to it and there's an actual video if you go to wkyc.com let's say all right all right let's think about this salt would make the water more conductive right yeah okay rf
energy would begin to act on that conductive water.
It would heat it.
What it would do to anything, what it would do beyond that, I have no idea, but it would seem an indirect and inefficient way of producing energy.
What did he say occurred?
unidentified
Well, you actually can see the video on the thing, and he adds a little bit of salt to this water, and then a flame starts, and they actually power a little steam engine off of that flame.
And apparently this guy made this machine out of pots and pans out of his wife's cupboard plus other stuff.
Radio frequency energy would definitely transfer to water with salt in it.
Now, it's hard to imagine a flame, but whatever energy would be produced by that heated water, unless there was some reaction, you know, some sort of fusion-type reaction that was initiated, which one can imagine, it would seem very inefficient because whatever heat came out of that water, even with flame, unless it was an ongoing fusion-type reaction, would be very inefficient.
You'd have to use large amounts of RF, which would take a large amount of energy to heat that water.
But maybe there was a fusion-type reaction going on beyond that.
Wild Cardline, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Hello.
My name's Bethany.
I'm a first-time caller.
Great.
And I have a question for you.
Okay.
Earlier in the week, George had a guest on that talked about reincarnation and just past life regression and things like that.
And my question was how that might fit in with time travel, to where if you move forward or backward into time, would it be possible to meet a previous person, you know, a previous life?
It was just kind of one of those things that I thought about that just kind of makes you go, hmm.
How that would then, you know, that's quite a stretch going to time travel and whether you could meet, you know, one of your previous incarnations, there would be the paradox problem, I'm sure.
When you consider the order of things and how things work, does reincarnation seem like, well, I guess if you believe in the soul, then reincarnation is reasonable.
I know, I agree, but, you know, it just, the right wing in this country is so strong that, you know, everything to them is based on economics and they see, you know, any, you know, anything that you're going to do to, that might prohibit, you know, or cause any changes in manufacturing or prohibit anything at all, you know, they're going to have no interest in it.
Well, look, economically, for the most part, I agree with conservative economic policy, because I just love what this country is all about.
I really do.
And I love the free markets that we have, or as free as they are.
I love all that.
But, look, science is science.
And, you know, we're a great country.
It seems to me that we ought to be able to recognize, if it's real, the science is real, and then begin to put our heads together and come up with technologies that won't put us back to the Stone Age, but will still do something that won't ruin this planet.
unidentified
Well, that's the way I feel about it.
And it seems to me there's a lot of science out there, but nobody can get together on it, you know.
Talking about different ways to handle things, I think probably, and somebody touched on it earlier, and I feel strongly that the best way to do it is the way the administration was told they should have done it to start with, and they did not secure their borders properly, you know, and let a lot of these people in.
terrorists from other countries come in and you know I think they've got to do a better job securing the borders there but the bottom line is I think you know you asked about what's our objective there and I think our objective is to stay there and I think at this point we need basically a couple camps with strike you know about a 20,000
troop in each Camp, you know, special forces with a lot of equipment, basically strike forces, you know, and otherwise get out of there and let these people take care of theirselves because their history is they just cannot have peace.
Well, if our objective, though, if sir, if our objective is to have bases there, then we're going to stay.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
But I say, you know, get out like we almost like a Guantanamo, where we're there in our own corner, minding our own business, keeping an eye on things, and we can do strike forces from them camps if we need to.
Maybe, like Guantanamo, you establish a real green zone, a really safe green zone.
You establish the bases you want, and you say, look, if it's chaos that you want beyond that, well, then go ahead and have it.
Last night I re-watched the Lord of War.
God, what a great movie.
I'm Art Bell.
You don't hear a lot of unscreened open lines anymore, anywhere, period.
But they are here.
So if you've got something you want to say, there's nobody between you and me.
So let's get it on.
Coming up next.
Well, all right, how cool is this?
From WKYC.com.
If you want to look it up yourself, retired TV station owner and broadcast engineer John Kazaius wasn't looking for an answer to the energy crisis.
He was looking for a cure for cancer.
Four years ago, inspiration struck in the middle of the night.
He decided to try using radio waves to kill the cancer cells.
His wife, Marianne, heard the noise, found her husband inventing a radio frequency generator with her pie pans.
I got up immediately and thought he had lost it.
Here are the basics of John's idea.
Radio waves will heat certain metals.
True.
Tiny bits of certain metal are injected into a cancer patient.
Those nanoparticles are attracted to the abnormalities of the cancer cells and ignore the healthy ones.
The patient is then exposed to radio waves and only the bad cells heat up and die.
But John also came across another extraordinary breakthrough.
His machine could actually make saltwater burn.
John Kazaius discovered that his radio frequency generator could release the oxygen and hydrogen from saltwater and create an incredibly intense flame.
Just like that.
If it was in a car cylinder, you could see the amount of fire that would be in the cylinder.
The APV Company Laboratory in Akron checked out his amazing invention.
They were amazed.
This could be a steam engine, a steam turbine.
This could be a car engine if you wanted it to be.
Imagine the possibility, saltwater as the ultimate clean fuel, a happy byproduct of one man searching for a cure for cancer.
That's the story.
There is an associated video.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Yeah, actually, I wanted to ask if you knew about the Jeff Guckard thing with Jeff Cannon and Johnny Gosh.
No.
That was Jeff Cannon was a reporter, apparently, for a non-existent newspaper that was given White House pressroom credentials.
And he was actually seen and photographed hugging President George Bush a number of times.
and it was later found out he worked for a male escort service, but it was supposed or theorized, I guess, that he was actually a missing child from the 1980s that was abducted by a group called the, I believe it was...
There's a grandmother walking along a beach with her beloved little grandson.
And suddenly a giant wave comes out.
There's a clap of lightning and thunder.
And a wave comes out and takes her grandson off to sea.
So she falls to her feet and looks to the sky and she says, oh Lord, I know I bother you for so many stupid things, but please, please, just bring my grandson back.
I'll never ask you for another thing.
So there's another lightning and thunder, another giant wave, and the grandson is back at her feet.
So she looks at him, and she looks to the sky, and she says, he was wearing a hat.
I did yesterday's show, and it was about global warming.
unidentified
Well, there was a question by a caller on reverse engineering.
I see.
Yes.
And there's been this very old question about the Great Pyramid and why scientists have never been able to discover how those ancient builders definitively built the Great Pyramid, which is about the hugest structure that you could see, and it's right there, and it was built.
So it seems to me that it's possible that they know how the Great Pyramid was built, but they don't want us to know because it may involve free energy.
I think that he'll go out as president on schedule.
Every president we've had, sir, there have been stories during the last term that they were going to do something, some executive order, some unconstitutional something to keep themselves in office, and it's never happened.
But it's been a rumor every single president we've had.
unidentified
Okay.
Well, what do you think about his brother jumping into the race?
He's recently retired, and I'm not going to say his name or anything.
He spoke to Mr. Gore, Mr. Al Gore, about his movie that came out recently, I'm sure you've seen.
And Mr. Gore talked about how the government censored parts of his movie.
And it came up in conversation about the parts that were censored.
And I wanted your opinion on something.
I'm not an expert on any of this.
And maybe it's going from some previous show.
I'm not sure.
What came up was that parts of global warming came from what we actually exhale.
And it's not, you know, the main, it's not the main reason for it.
But the reason why it was censored was because we were found as the U.S. not to be a main contributor to global warming, but it's actually India, China, all the highly concentrated people are.
And I was not quite sure as to why that would come up and why that would be censored, but I wanted your opinion on that.
Well, my opinion is that I hadn't heard it, and I can't confirm it.
However, in terms of the numbers of people inhaling and exhaling, I think we have a problem.
In other words, we have too many people on the planet.
It's not that we don't have enough land, it's that the natural resources that are on the planet, I think, have a limit in terms of the number of people that can be supported.
What are we now?
About 6 billion?
Do it be 9 billion soon?
That's a lot of people.
And that's a lot of resources.
So at some point, I think the world has got to figure out a way to limit its own numbers.
Well, you were asking for ideas about how to end what's going on in Iraq, and I had actually called last November or so and proposed the idea that the regime, they don't really want to end the war.
They want to create chaos as some sort of smokescreen to stay there, which is basically what you're saying about they want to keep the basis there and stuff.
But there had been an interview with a soldier, and they had asked him what he thought the best way to start ending the war.
And he said something about as succinct as you could.
He said the best way to start it would be to put his S on a plane back home.
I think if we actually just up and pulled out, which I suppose could eventually occur, if public sentiment turns against the war enough, we could do that.
We could pull out.
We could do a Vietnam.
We could just pull out.
I think that Iraq would quickly degenerate first into a warlord kind of thing with the various factions fighting each other.
And then with that pretext of the instability, Iran would quickly move to take over politically.
And I think that's how it would go.
And that's one of the reasons we're not going to leave.
Well, I'd like to talk about possibly, you know, once we get climate control underps and figuring out global warming and all that, possibly using Mars as a test dummy before we try it on Earth, but just to try different things to measure and pretty much just figure out as a test dummy For controlling Earth?
Well, I'm not sure we're at all ready to change or affect the climate of Mars, but the concept of terraforming Mars is something that absolutely fascinates me.
There are certain things we could do, certain launches we could make, programs we could do that would begin to terraform Mars.
Now, it would take a very long time to do, but there's no reason to imagine that if we wanted to, we could not begin a program, or we could begin a program if we wished, to initiate eventually an atmosphere on Mars, to put things that would become green, you know, release some of the water, start an atmosphere on Mars.
Wouldn't that be something?
I'm Art Bell.
Tim in Denton, Texas also enjoyed the Lord of War movie.
That really was a good movie.
And he reminds me of a quote, and it was, where there's a will, there's a weapon.
Where there's a will, there's a weapon.
We'll be right back.
Tamar in L.A. asks, which election was scary to you?
At the presidential election in 2004, the congressional election?
Of course, the presidential election is what I was referring to.
That was just downright scary.
And I would think that an awful lot of you would agree with me.
It was disputed.
It was recounted.
It was kind of unsure.
And it was just, well, it was, in this democracy, downright scary.
I was wondering if you was thinking about doing the same thing, and I've read a lot, and I was just wondering if you would ever go over your system or maybe put a schematic out on your website or something and how you did it.
It's a full system with batteries, 20-year batteries, sealed gel cell batteries, and a pair of very large inverters that produce 220 volts at 60 cycles and 60 amps each.
So it's a big system.
And when I bought it, it was not really financially viable.
In other words, translation, it didn't pay for itself.
Doing it today would probably be, aside from the batteries, a lot cheaper.
So sure, one day I'll put a schematic up or even photographs.
I actually have had photographs of it up, and I'll do it again for you.
unidentified
Okay, one other thing, there's a new type of solar cell, and I know you're into electronics, that's supposed to be able to pick, generate electricity even in the shade, even though there's light hidden it.
Well, certainly since I put in my solar cells, they've become more efficient, I believe.
I've got some really good, long-lasting ones, and they've done great duty.
They've been there now for quite a few years, and I suppose eventually, if I live long enough, they will begin to pay for themselves.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Oh, hello.
You caught me by surprise.
I was calling about two different things.
This is Sandra from Ohio.
Yes.
Well, one thing is that, you know, we hear Ed Dames talking frequently about Mad Max scenarios about the possibility of something happening in the future that could cause that.
And living up here in Ohio is actually in the Cleveland area.
I'm referring back to when we had that power blackout in the, I think it was in 2003, and the power stayed off for several days.
Well, it was very hot.
It was August.
People in this area, it's the nicer western suburbs of Cleveland, let's say.
They're not used to doing without their central air, that kind of thing.
Well, everyone was very nice to each other and helpful.
The first day the power went out, that was on a Thursday, I believe.
The second day on a Friday, so-so.
By Saturday, there was a local grocery store, a big franchise chain.
The police actually had to come in and shut the thing down.
It had remained open on some generator power for a limited few hours every day.
Now, I work, and for 20 years, I have worked as a professional psychic and medium, and it runs in my family.
So this caught me by surprise.
There was an announcement on WTAM.
It was probably a little bit before 1 p.m.
Eastern.
And I heard it on the car radio where they said if there are any psychics, remote viewers, mediums, they had a list of categories.
And they said, if there is anyone with these abilities who would think they can help us with information about this, and they were referring to 9-11, would you please call the local office of your FBI?
They specified FBI.
Now, if you remember the atmosphere around 9-11, they would not have been joking.
This would not have been a prank.
So I heard that, and for a split second, I considered it, and I thought, boy, I must be crazy.
Because you know what the government does to you in your life if you, you know.
I'd love to know, did you actually make such an announcement?
And if so, was it at government request, you would imagine?
So, East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hi, this is Michael in Norfolk, Virginia.
Hey, Michael.
You know, we've been talking about a lot of problems on this program that I think has a tendency to get the audience depressed.
And that coupled with traditional views on Bible prophecy has a lot of people feeling kind of helpless.
Now, the Bilderbergs are meeting in Istanbul, getting ready to gather there.
These are people who are trying to do something about the problems that we're talking about, Art.
Last year, on the 7th of June, Sean David Morton was on with George, and the question came up about the previous night's show in which some discussion was made about the rapture theory.
And Sean David began to talk about where this theory had come from only in the latter centuries.
Yeah, I think the rapture concept is relatively new.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
And I was so disappointed that George cut him off and didn't follow through on this subject.
I think we need to get the kind of people on this show which will take Christians back to the Bible and to passages that talk about the saints taking a global kingdom.
They taking it by force.
I think we need to get some other kind of Bible people on the Coast to Coast show so that we can talk more reasonably about the problems that we're facing in this world.
And what about the option of actually praying in an organized way for Jesus to come and help solve these problems?
Why don't we hear that?
Because everybody believes in this rapture theory in which they are— Not everybody believes in the rapture at all, as a matter of fact.
Now, obviously, occasionally, religion comes into it, as it would with any talk program.
But the very last thing we want to make this, at least as far as I'm concerned, is a pulpit.
You know, that's your church, and it's for Sunday or whatever other day you wish to worship.
But this is not the church of the air, nor do we want to make it that.
But West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
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Art?
Yes.
Well, just wanted to tell you one thing that I've been listening to you for a really long time, and just listening to all the things that you've had to deal with in your life, I've been really proud of just the way you've handled everything and to still be on the air and not have lost your mind for one.
And for two, I've always been so interested in the different variety of people you put on your show to give us all a real look at where we really stand.
Oh, from the old days and just dealing with a lot of sci-fi to things that are just actually happening and now define, you know, nanotechnologies coming through the woodwork and all these new levels of where we're going and where we're headed.
And it's just, you know, for you guys to really put us in a reality check of where we really stand, you know, in terms of the cosmos and not even being that little flake of sawdust.
We're nothing.
And so many people put so many things into such a big way when in reality, it's such a small, little answer that is going to save us all.
In my utmost feelings of listening to the show, it's just, we are just, we've got to come together.
It's just, there's so many wonderful things that are going on around us, but there also is a heavy level of, you know, just being put in a literally, you know, censored society that we are just being held captive.
We are becoming kind of a censored society compared to what I once saw.
I do see a lot of that going on.
I do see a lot of censorship.
The world is in the middle of change.
There have been a number of people taken off the air recently.
Now, I'm not going to sit here and get into a discussion of the right and the wrong of what they said, and a lot of times it was certainly disagreeable.
But there has been an awful lot of that lately.
People actually getting taken off the air.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hello.
unidentified
Hello?
Yes.
Is this art?
Yes.
Oh, you were talking before about orbs being sold?
And I know for a fact that that's true because when I was about 11 years old, my mother and I were standing downstairs and we had a bar that separated the, like a snack bar that separated the kitchen from the living room.
And I was standing on the living room side and so I saw it first, this big ball of light.
We're not talking a little orb like the callers talk about.
We're talking like a basketball, a perfect circle, a perfect ball, a perfect, you know, how do you know it was a soul?
Because later on, while we seen it come down the stairs and down the hall, then it went across the bar, then that's my mother saw it and disappeared into the wall.
Then a couple of hours later, we got a phone call from some family in another state that my great-grandmother had died.
We talk about gas prices and needing a U.S. for a gas and why U.S. is in Iraq.
I was reading a story online about that many years ago during the Vietnam War, that every country printing money, doing emission of money as much as they have a coverage in the gold.
What happened?
Because the U.S. cost for Vietnam War was too expensive, they start to printing money and every country in the world buying oil with the U.S. dollars.
What's happening?
Every country which actually printing more money than have a coverage in gold have inflation, but not U.S. Well, that's what happens, sir, is you go into it.