Art Bell and Dick Criswell explore the Watch the Skies experiment, which allegedly triggered global UFO sightings—from spinning 3D lights in Michigan to military-linked anomalies in Vermont. Criswell, a lifelong researcher, details telepathic encounters with "Grays" since childhood, government documents hinting at 70+ alien species, and warnings of earth changes near 2012, while callers report shadowy figures, chemtrails, and child psychic accounts describing lunar abductions. Bell questions whether mass intent experiments reveal hidden dimensions or simply expose existing phenomena, suggesting a surge in sightings may signal deeper connections between UFOs, paranormal activity, and human consciousness. [Automatically generated summary]
From the high desert and the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening, good morning, good afternoon, wherever you may be in the world's time zones.
I'm Art Bell, and this is the program that covers every last one of those time zones, coast to coast A.M. Tis my honor and privilege to be with you throughout the weekend, to guide you, as it were, through the weekend, and a lot of paranormal activity.
I suppose, well, no, we'll hold that off for a moment.
Looking at the world is always depressing.
The webcam shot tonight is, well, kind of interesting.
There came an opportunity to show Aaron Los Angeles.
And that opportunity came in the form of an invitation to participate in a major motion picture.
And so the picture you see is on the sound stage of a movie called I Know Who Killed Me with Lindsay Lohan.
So Lindsay, Lindsay is a very, very interesting gal indeed.
Anyway, it's coming out in July, and it's just a bit apart.
You know, I get to do sort of a little thing that puts together, and I can't give away the plot.
So I, hmm, can't really talk about it.
But that's where the photograph came from.
And that's a picture of Erin on a sound stage in Hollywood, a place she's never been.
And so it was kind of exciting.
And it was about 10 hours of driving.
Now, in a moment, I'm going to have some news from last week's intent experiment.
But first, we'll look at the never-to-be-disappointed in how depressing it is, world news.
Baghdad, Iraq.
A suicide truck bomber sent a deadly storm of metal, stone, and jagged plaster through worshippers, leaving a Sunni mosque Saturday, killing at least 39.
Possible sign of escalating internal Sunni battles between insurgents and those who oppose them.
Motive for the attacks was not immediately clear, probably never will be.
Vice President's plane got in a little trouble.
Vice President Dick Cheney's plane experienced minor mechanical problems, but was making a, while making a refueling stop in Singapore, as planned, on Sunday.
According to the White House, Australian Prime Minister said he had received a report Cheney's plane was being diverted after it took off from Sydney, but did not have any further details.
Interesting.
Meeting on the grounds of the former Confederate capital, the Virginia General Assembly voted unanimously Saturday to express profound regret for the state's role in slavery.
Bad news in the Midwest, a fast-moving snowstorm has closed sections of major highways on the plains Saturday.
It dumped more than a foot of snow.
That's a lot of snow on the upper Midwest, caused seven traffic deaths in Wisconsin.
Storm knocked out power to more than 145,000 customers, primarily in Iowa, where freezing rain coated trees, power, and utility lines.
And of course, they come down like dominoes.
Not good at all.
A little bit of ice weighs a whole lot.
Indonesian engineers temporarily halted an attempt to plug a fissure that has been gushing mud for nine months after a steel cable hoisting cement balls, that's right, cement balls into the crater broke on Saturday.
The hot, noxious mud has displaced 13,000 people, covered dozens of factories, thousands of homes.
The mud has blocked major roads into the country's second largest city.
My goodness.
So they're dumping large concrete balls into it.
This is from a listener.
I thought it was appropriate.
He quotes Einstein here on radio.
Einstein said, you see, wire telegraph is a very, it's like a very, very long cat.
You pull his tail in New York, and his head is meowing in Los Angeles.
Do you understand this?
And radio operates exactly the same way.
You send the signals here, and they receive them there.
The only difference is there is no cat.
Fine's fine.
Let me give that to you one more time.
I like it.
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat.
You pull his tail in New York, and his head is meowing in Los Angeles.
Do you understand this?
And radio operates exactly the same way.
You send signals here, and they receive them there.
The only difference is there is no cat.
And that is how Einstein explained radio.
All right, we're going to break here, and then we're going to review last week's intent experiment.
We'll be right back.
All right, we're going to review in a moment the results of last week's intent experiment to get them to show themselves.
But let me tell you now, we're about to go into open lines.
Now, that means anything you want to talk about is fair game.
But those who are more interesting get more airtime.
Those who are not interesting and or obviously impaired in some manner, they're gone very quickly.
And while they are unscreened open lines, let me emphasize I do have the button, meaning I can make the last X number of seconds disappear if need be.
So to get to us, if you've got something of intense interest, west of the Rockies, 800-618-8255.
East of the Rockies, 800-825-5033.
First time callers, Virgins, area code 818-501-4721.
Wildcard line, area code 818-501-4109.
No, I screwed that up.
First-time callers, 818-501-4721, 4721.
Wildcard line, 818-501-4109.
And outside the country, 800-893-0903.
Get hold of your operator.
Now, let it ring till I answer.
And when I do answer, the first responsibility is yours, and that means turn the radio down.
From my co-experimenter, the following, dear art, the Saturday experiment was an undeniable success.
There were sightings around the world.
Many of them came in from people listening on the internet.
I was receiving emails from as far away as the Yucatan.
Canada, also very active.
Gulf Breeze, Florida, was a hotspot, had several sightings.
Colorado, Ohio, Sacramento, Berkeley, California, Wisconsin, Illinois, Houston, Austin, Texas, Hawaii, New York, Iowa, as well as many witnesses that failed to say where they were, yet gave incredible reports.
Everything from brilliant lights responding to people with flashlights and lasers responding to wishes and so forth, intent.
This one, I had thousands.
I could just go on and on.
Hi, Art.
My name is Vicki, and I live in Port Huron, the base of the Thumb area in southeast Michigan.
Wanted to relate to you my experience with last night's experiment.
I was thoroughly enjoying the show.
I got excited when you decided to go ahead with it.
So I followed the instructions.
Looked out the window, too cold to go out there.
Sure enough, I saw a white ball of light in the sky off to the southeast of where I was looking.
I also saw to the west of that some twinkling lights in the shape of 3D triangles that were spinning and changing colors, kind of like the old screensavers with the shapes that spin around and change color.
It was so cool.
It faded after a few minutes, so I went back to the radio.
I was afraid my mind was making it all up.
So when we did it the second time, I asked that they come closer.
So the white light was directly outside my window.
And guess what?
There it was.
It had moved from the far southeast to directly outside my window.
Granted, it was obviously huge and far away, but yet they had answered my request.
I got chills at that moment.
Again, it faded.
So it did the third time, and the white ball of light was back, along with a lot of twinkling white lights about it.
Thank you so very much for allowing us this opportunity.
I believe a shift in human consciousness and awareness is truly happening with intention at the core.
The success of what the bleep and now the secret is testament to that.
It's exciting.
Sincerely, Vicki, and I'll hold the last name.
For this, callers from four southern Somerset County towns, this was in a newspaper, The Sentinel, reported seeing strange lights in the sky Wednesday night, though activities that night by the Vermont Air National Guard might provide an explanation.
Some sightings were close to the ground.
From 7.35 through 8.12 p.m., the Somerset County Communications Center took calls from Anson, Fairfield, and two other cities that I dare not try to pronounce.
The Anson call came from 42 Hilltop Road, not far from town.
Caller told the dispatchers she saw reddish-orange UFOs through the trees, said she saw three diagonal lights, then two, then one, before it all burned up like a comet.
Spokesperson from the Vermont Air National Guard confirmed the unit was conducting training missions through the area Wednesday night.
An F-16 flying overhead, the source said, would cause considerable noise.
Now, they didn't hear noise.
They saw lights, and F-16s move quickly, not slowly.
Former Navy intelligence crypto tech Brad Luker is a very down-to-earth kind of guy at 40.
Father, husband, works at a power plant as an operator and walks straight and narrow.
He doesn't believe in Bigfoot aliens or the Loch Ness monster.
So, when he saw strange bright lights in the sky above him Tuesday night, he assumed that it was a helicopter, maybe a small plane.
Only when he opened the door to his truck, expecting to hear the whir of chopper blades above him, did he begin to wonder what in the world the craft could be.
Quoting, it was really bizarre.
I've never seen anything like it.
I do a lot of camping.
I've seen all the basic stuff in the sky, he said.
Most strange things in the sky are high up, he said.
This was way, way down there.
It was so low to the ground, so brightly lit, that at first he thought, well, there must be something going on at the industry town hall.
I thought, wow, that's kind of neat.
As he got closer, though, he realized the lights were coming from something around 300 feet above.
That was when he pulled over, opened the door, sounded like a quiet jet engine.
Luck was mystified and a bit nervous at this point.
A woman driving in an SUV behind him saw it as well.
He never got her name, wishes now he had, said she said that she thought it looked like an aircraft trying to land on the road.
I know the Navy has some really funky, special top-secret aircraft out there.
That's the only thing, other thing I could think it could be.
Then it stopped right above his head for a few seconds.
Just stopped.
That's when it really freaked me out, he said.
He'd have thought it was a spaceship, he said, except he doesn't believe in spaceships.
So that's kind of typical, a little sample, if you will, of the literally now thousands of reports we got.
Now, there are two ways to approach what happened with the experiment.
As you know, it's been years since I did an experiment of any sort.
But it seemed tailor-made.
I guess kept saying intent art intent.
It's all about intent.
And of course, The consciousness experiments and studies that we have done are all intent-oriented.
No question about that.
So it was too good to pass up, even though I probably should have.
I guess you could say either it worked, or it was one hell of a coincidence, or simply sending people outside is going to get you reports of things in the sky.
I don't know really which it was, but I know that you would have to chalk it up.
If you saw the reports I saw, you would have to chalk it up as some sort of ding-ding ding, as all the other experiments have been.
Now, you could just say, you know, I understand.
There are those who would say, well, you know, come on.
You send a million people outside to look at the sky and you're going to get reports.
What I recall saying was I asked everybody to focus on a joyous moment in their life and then on top of that to try and focus on or or to project intent to have them, whoever they are, show up.
That's how I recall it.
Hello?
unidentified
Gilliam was also trying to delete the fear of demons is what he was saying.
He is aware, as I am aware, that people faced with something new, particularly of that magnitude, seeing something that doesn't belong in our airspace above your head is a scary thing.
And if you are of a particular religious persuasion, it could well be that you're going to think you're facing a demon.
So sure, it's possible.
And that's why I think we had people sort of focus on a joyous moment.
We wanted it to be a happy affair and the showing not to be, you know, like the end of a bad movie.
I'm Art Bell.
Somebody named Kelly from Idaho sent me an email, said, Art, my grandma asked me to email this to you, thought it was really important, thought you ought to know about it.
It comes from the, let me see, what is it?
Idaho Gazette, I think.
Let me make sure.
No, Idaho Observer.
Proper credit.
Headline, GAO report admits chaff in chemtrails.
Now, listen very carefully.
The Idaho Observer reports that in May this year, a family in Iowa contacted the office of Senator Tom Harkin to report the constant crisscrossing of chemtrails in the sky above their neighborhood.
They received back from the senator's office a GAO report on military chaff in the material safety data sheet for aluminum-coated fiberglass fibers being spread seven days a week for several hours each day in the skies above their home.
The chaff is spread by pilots learning how to mask planes, send false radar images.
We all know that.
It was reported that the military also has lead-based chaff, but not being used right now.
Chaff was used by the military in Europe in World War II, and according to the GAO, had been used in training here at home since the 1950s.
Once chaff reaches the ground, it breaks into little particles small enough to inhale.
Though military spokespeople insist that chaff isn't harmful, listen very carefully to this part.
The GAO report concluded that health officials, and effects, health officials have no idea what the effects are, and more studies are needed.
Among the substances found to be in the samples were several that simply ought not be there.
Six bacteria, including anthrax and pneumonia.
Nine chemicals, including acetylene and chloride.
26 heavy metals, including arsenic, gold, lead, mercury, silver, uranium, and RMC, whatever that is.
Seven viruses, two cancers, two vaccines, and two sedatives.
Over the last several months, the observer has received a significant increase in chemtrail-related calls and letters.
Most report a dramatic increase in chemtrail spraying activity in their areas.
Some are reporting the development of chronic flu-like symptoms, chronic fatigue, and body aches that have never before been explained.
We'll be right back.
Coming up in about 30 minutes, Dick Criswell on UFO paranormal activity.
So that'll be tonight.
And then tomorrow night, Jim Sparks, who clearly was the best UFO abductee that I think has ever been interviewed by anybody on the air, anywhere.
And we'll explore that which we didn't have time to do previously.
So it's going to be a very, very interesting weekend.
I've been trying to call you a number of times, especially when you get talking about 9-11.
And here's something you might want to put out.
At times, I think I might have been, might be in an alternate universe or something.
And I'll tell you why I say that.
I lived for 29 years within a quarter of a mile from Ground Zero.
And I'll never forget that day or the events that pursued after it, you know.
And one of the things that I remember clearly on the media and everything is when building number seven, you know, that building when it went down, that was deliberately detonated.
And the reason that you're going to be able to do that.
But I mean, what proof do you have to offer that it was deliberately detonated?
unidentified
Oh, not as a terrorist act or anything.
The integrity of the structure was in doubt because of the collapse of the two trade towers.
And I don't remember whether it was the fire department or the National Guard, but one of them deliberately brought the building down because it was a risky structure activist.
Well, why are they saying that if, in fact, some agency actually did bring it down for the reasons you stated, which would be logical, but I know of no such statement.
unidentified
I wonder if anybody else ever heard this because it was publicly broadcast on the media.
I remember it clearly.
I mean, those days, you've got to understand that.
Yeah, but if it had been, that would answer the question of so many conspiracy theorists and quiet them down on that subject that I think it would be big news.
unidentified
But that's really how the rest of the world sees it.
Sometimes, like you say from time to time, you hear about somebody dying and you say, no, that person isn't dead.
Or in your own mind, you think someone's dead and then someone says, no, he didn't die.
Okay, so you're saying that you were, in effect, in an alternate universe, one in which it was announced publicly that that building was brought down for safety reasons, which, by the way, would be fairly logical.
But I'm not aware of any such statement that was made by any agency, and I'll have to leave it at that.
If anybody's aware of anything to the contrary, by all means, let me know.
And anybody else who heard that, and actually he said, Diane Sawyer, if anybody else is able to scratch up a copy of the report or anything else, obviously that would be of intense interest to many of us.
And I can imagine that would be the case, can't you?
That they felt 7 was perhaps structurally weakened, dramatically so, by what happened with the World Trade Centers, and so they brought it down.
But again, I'm really unaware of such a statement by anybody.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Obviously.
Hi, Art.
I want to tell a story about some alien tourists that my friend.
And I realized that they could program into the copper wires electronic beings that were programmed to sit there and quietly wait, Allow us to use these things for tests and for maintenance, but never to use them in anger.
Now, all of this is very, very well documented, and you can believe it or not.
But in fact, they did two things.
To the United States, they hovered craft over some of our ICBM sites and shut them down.
They literally shut down.
I interviewed several of the fellows who worked in the silos when this occurred, and these craft shut our ICBMs down.
Pure and simple, shut them down.
Took quite a while to get them going again.
In Russia, there was a similar occurrence, only a little scarier.
Instead of shutting them down, they set a launch sequence, began to arm and set a launch sequence.
Simultaneous with the sighting of a saucer craft above Russian ICBM sites, they actually began a countdown.
The Russians ended up tearing all of the consoles out, all of the equipment, going through it piece by piece, never figured out what happened, why it happened, or any of the rest of it.
But both nations experienced something very serious of that sort.
It is a pleasure, and I've been waiting to make this call for years, and I just now got you.
A few years ago in 01, in the summer there, just about the time you hurt your back, you had a fellow on from Texas who claimed to be like he used to be in Vietnam and was like special forces, and he claimed to have been on a hunting trip and killed a Bigfoot.
Oh, yes.
And he was really freaked out.
I remember that night.
I listened to the whole program, and I was on the edge of my truck driver's seat going down the road, listening to the story, and I wondered, did you ever have any follow-up with this fellow or did he just kind of disappear?
Now, that man claimed to have shot and, in fact, buried two Bigfoot.
He had a map.
He knew where they were buried.
I did a follow-up program with him.
His wife was extremely concerned.
He was extremely concerned.
We offered to get him counsel, to get him a lawyer, but his wife talked him out of it on the basis that he could have been charged with a crime.
And I guess you have to understand that when it gets down to brass tacks, put yourself in that position.
Let's say you were out hunting, and you ended up killing a couple of things that were sort of semi-human, hairy, Bigfoot, clearly not really human, but semi-human, human in form, perhaps hair-covered, but human in form.
You would be extremely concerned, and if you weren't, your wife or your husband or your relative, close relative certainly would be, that you could potentially be charged with some sort of crime.
And that's exactly what occurred.
And she talked him out of doing any of the rest of it.
Now, I've got an open invitation to him.
Anytime he'd like to change his mind, perhaps as he gets older, he will.
We would be glad to conduct an expedition to that site, do the digging, because I believed him, and I think many of the rest of you did as well, and see if the remains could be salvaged.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Oh, hello.
Yes.
Yeah, the experiment Art Bell is talking about the Watch the Skies.
Okay, well, I appreciate the report there as one of many.
One of thousands.
We had literally thousands of reports.
And again, I'm open-minded enough to, on the one side, clearly declare it as a success, but on the other side, hold out the possibility that any time you send millions of people outside, they're going to see things.
Now, are they going to see things that aren't there?
No.
Are they going to see things that are possibly from elsewhere?
Well, perhaps.
So in other words, I don't want to make too big a deal out of it, but I think it was a success.
Well, maybe going back to your shadow person experience for a moment, maybe we could conclude that if you have a shadow person experience and your eyes are open, it appears dark or as a shadow, as described by so many.
But if, on the other hand, your eyes are closed and you're experiencing the presence of an extra-dimensional being nearby, they appear as white or light.
In other words, the opposite of what you've got, which with your eyes closed, obviously is a sort of darkness, right?
So you would not perceive a shadow.
So to be perceived, it would have to be light.
That's sort of another take on shadow people.
From the high desert and the great American Southwest, I'm Art Bell.
Here I am.
Coming up in a moment, Dick Criswell.
Dick Criswell's first encounter with the UFO paranormal world was at the age of six.
At 17, he listened to Frank Edwards, a news reporter for WTTV in Indianapolis, Indiana, who would focus on UFO paranormal topics and investigations, and that sparked his interest, as I hope we do with this program with many of you, creating what I hope is the next generation of ufologists.
With the developing fascination of UFO paranormal research in the Indianapolis area, Mr. Criswell hosted UFO and paranormal meetings in his home.
During that time, he met Richard Hoagland, who introduced him to Dr. Michael Wolf.
In 1994, Mr. Criswell became a team member on a project with Dr. Wolf called the Alpha Com.
In 1997, he hosted a national radio show on the cable news network called Star Fire Program.
Dick Criswell is now a retired fellow and is dedicating countless hours of his time to research and investigating UFOs and the paranormal.
He is currently in talks with fellow enthusiasts and is creating a business plan to begin a national UFO paranormal research facility.
In a moment, Dick Criswell.
All right, I'm sure you've all been reading in the news or seeing on TV the incredible storm that's going through the Midwest right now.
Dick Criswell is apparently right in the middle of it, although I guess he's on the far edge of it right now.
It's already passed by, and he's got a telephone that's going to go away if he loses power.
Dick, welcome to the program.
unidentified
Well, hello, Art.
Nice to talk to you, and thank you for having me as a guest.
It'll be very, very interesting to talk to a researcher, especially for the first time, and sort of see what your conclusions are after all these years.
unidentified
Well, they have changed over the years.
I mean, there's nothing that I have encountered that's concrete.
Well, we had Mr. Clinton in office, and what happened was the Monica Lewinsky scandal came up, and they felt that they wouldn't be credible after that.
And while we're on the subject, how sure are you that this really occurred in the real world, that you weren't sleeping, that you weren't having some sort of hallucination, or any of the above?
Was there any overriding important message or thing they told you that we should know?
unidentified
One of the things that they told me that has bothered me clear to this day was the fact that we would be going through some troubling times, and they said that I would understand it fully when I become at the age of 50.
Well, that's come and went, so, you know, I don't know what to make of that, other than the fact that I think that it might have been this earth-coming changes that I know about.
Okay, well, that's a very straightforward kind of job.
And so you were a working man all your life, and this seems like, I don't know, seems like an experience that's sort of so far away from what you would expect somebody with your background to have.
Any idea why, you?
unidentified
As I look back upon it, Art, I get bits and pieces from my parents now that will discuss certain things that happened to them.
They had an experience, but I had to really drag it out of them.
And as I've learned in my research, that this kind of runs in families.
From coast to coast and well beyond on occasion, this is coast to coast AM.
Here I am indeed.
We've got a very regular kind of guy on the phone here, Dick Chriswell.
He's been visited since he was the age of six and had a lot of visits between six and seventeen years of age.
And we're sort of rolling over what it seemed to be all about and what they told him and all the usual questions for somebody who's had a visitation or an abduction experience.
Back to Dick Criswell in a moment.
Once again, Dick Criswell, Dick, your website is canyoustandthetruth.com, right?
Do you have anything for us beyond that on Philip?
unidentified
Other than the fact that Dr. Wolf had told me that everything that he had been told by Corso was true, especially about the Roswell thing.
The only thing that he said beyond that is he said most people will not believe the story because they felt like he would not have the clearances to do that.
When I went to Dr. Wolf's home, I asked him if I could see some documents that would kind of zero in on what aliens look like, where they come from, so forth.
He said, I'll take care of that.
So when I went there, I opened up this document after he presented it to me, and it showed sketches and some pictures of live and dead aliens.
Because there's a Lot of stuff floating around out there, buddy.
unidentified
I understand that.
I understand that.
I believe that these documents come from the government some way because it had at the top of these documents, it would have like an eyes-only type thing in it.
And it was something that I had looked at when I signed the documents to keep whatever they told me quiet.
Okay, if you are the emissary, if you are the portal, then you should have a very strong message for us of some sort from them about us or our future or something.
You did say the stuff I wrote about in my book.
Actually, the book with Whitley Streeber.
So at least I assume that's the book you're referring to.
You claim that you've been given some objects by UFO researchers, right?
unidentified
What sort of objects?
I was given a picture that was of an alien that was a reptoid.
And it was one of these pictures art that actually it was a researcher, but this guy was, should I say, from FEMA, give me this picture, and it was like colored pictures.
And I said, well, can I take these to the Photomat and have these done?
There are UFOs, and then there's the world of paranormal.
Do you find the two are connected, or are they separate things?
In other words, are UFOs actual craft that have made it here, heaven knows how, considering the speed of light limitation that we believe we know about?
Or are UFOs part of the paranormal world, in your opinion?
unidentified
I believe they're part of the paranormal world, but I also believe that the UFOs come here by not our scientific explanations.
You've got to understand, I think that we think in a different level.
We're not as advanced as these beings that come in these crafts.
I believe they come in like a stargate type situation or like a portal, basically.
And they can go into these stargates and they can come out, and it doesn't take them that long.
And I think that's the problem that most people have.
They say, well, you know, it takes so long to get from one planet to the other.
Well, you've got to think that maybe we're not thinking about the right scientific thing.
It's kind of like a caveman.
If we'd give him a DVD player, he wouldn't know what to do with it.
Well, with these coming cataclysms that you describe as the main message that they carry, do they plan to intervene or are they just warning us?
unidentified
I think there's a warning, and I think that there's also a when this with when this happens to help us in some way, and they're not allowed to get involved in it until this happens.
That's to leave a message for me to get back to them if they want to report sightings or they're an abductee or they have some kind of paranormal event.
Well, we have some investors that are very interested in the subject, and we have some people doing it because they understand that this needs to be done.
So you're chasing virtually everything in the paranormal world from ghosts to, I presume, shadow people, that sort of thing, and then on to UFOs and the occupants of their craft.
What we're going to do, folks, is we're going to split here at the top of the hour.
And when we come back, we're going to do open lines and perhaps a little more.
From the high desert and the great American Southwest, I'm Art Bell, just sort of getting through the night with you.
Stay right where you are.
Indeed, here I am.
Good morning, everybody.
Well, all right, we have two hours of unscreened open lines directly ahead.
Anything you want to talk about is fair game with the following caveats.
And that is that those of you that are interesting, have something of great interest to discuss on the air, will find yourself getting quite a bit of airtime.
Those who don't won't.
It's kind of just that simple.
Now, beyond that, the only rule is when you get on the air, turn your radio off.
In other words, have your hand actually poised on the volume control to turn it all the way down and or preferably actually off when you get on the air.
Otherwise, you'll get a sort of a, I don't know, about a 30-second delay or something, and it will confuse you mightily, and it'll make you sound confused on the air, something you definitely don't want, I'm sure.
So immediately turn your radio off.
With that in mind, you've got the numbers, the portals, as it were, and in a moment, it's all yours.
And I was on a business trip in New Jersey, and my coworkers and I on a Saturday night, no idea what to do, picked up a copy of Weird New Jersey and decided to go ghost hunting.
And not too much success until we went to a place called Pig Lady Road in Somerville, New Jersey.
We tried following all, it's near the Dorstuke Estate, tried following all these crazy instructions, honk the horn, flash the lights.
Nothing happens.
We get out of the car.
We walk down this wooded, muddy road.
The car was definitely not going to be able to get down.
We walk down this road, standing there, and between us and the car, now I'm not colorblind.
The car was dark red.
You could clearly see the color of the car.
Between us and the car, after a couple of minutes of standing there, we see a silhouette of a person.
Cannot believe my eyes.
I'm like, and I'm asking myself, am I seeing something?
Is this an optical illusion?
Am I wanting to see something, perhaps?
But there is clearly the silhouette of a person.
And every time I expected to see a ghost, I expect to see a glowing white light.
In addition to whatever the military had in there, there were six bacteria, including anthrax and pneumonia, nine chemicals, including acetylene chloride, 26 heavy metals, including arsenic, gold, lead, mercury, silver, uranium, and RMC, whatever that is, four molds and fungi, seven viruses, two cancers, two vaccines, two sedatives, and a peach and a pear tree or whatever.
And so, you know, really, whatever this is, it's not good.
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I can tell.
I just, I heard about it from a friend about two years ago, actually.
And he told me about it, and he said, watch for it, man.
And, you know, at first I thought he was crazy.
And after a while, I actually started noticing stuff.
And now I've got a whole bunch of pictures of this taking place in the sky.
I, too, back when we began getting calls about chemtrails here on the program, and I live out here in the desert where generally humidity is very low.
Skies are very clear, as a rule.
However, we began to get strange days.
You would go out in the morning, and it would begin as a clear day.
You would see these planes criss-crossing the sky.
They would leave, whether you want to call them contrails or chemtrails, whatever they're constituted from, they would sort of remain.
They wouldn't dissipate as you would normally expect a contrail to dissipate.
Instead, they would kind of spread.
And then by, oh, I don't know, one or two o'clock in the afternoon, instead of having a clear and crisp day, you would have a day that's kind of semi-clouded over.
Sort of a, I don't know, almost a haze in the sky.
The sunlight would be diminished.
The temperature would be down, and it would remain that way until, you know, like a front would come through and you'd get a bunch of wind or something like that.
But what began as chemtrails or contrails, depending on what you believe, would end in kind of a misty, strange day.
Now, that's gone on quite a bit here in the desert, and I know it's gone on around the rest of the country.
I'm not sure how prevalent it has been in some of the rest of the country, but it's certainly going on.
Yes, I recall his referring to a blue orb just after you had called, sometime after you had called.
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Right, right.
And the thing was, as I think it finished to say, is I saw it heading towards over Lake Erie, heading towards Michigan.
And the funny thing was, is I had to be in Michigan two days after that, and I was in the GM facility, anyways, and one of the workers was supposed to be meeting with a reporter who had also seen that same blue orb early that morning going to work.
And his wife had also seen it too.
He had called her up to see it.
And the thing was, it didn't move fast across the sky.
It was very slow, but yet it still left that long blue tail of light behind it.
And I'm telling you, after the experiment we did last week, I had thousands of them.
Many of them very much like what you just heard.
I'm still kind of digesting, trying to digest what actually occurred last weekend and whether I classify it as an absolutely unambiguous success in terms of an experiment or whether if you send millions of people out to look at the sky, do you inevitably just get reports?
Well, I've been toying around with the idea of getting into it, but I'm kind of like you when it comes to your view of mass consciousness, and I'm not really sure where it comes from.
You know, if it's a God-given gift or if it's actually, you know, of Lucifer.
And I go back and forth sometimes, and one of the things that made me think that it could be of Lucifer is Donahue's, in your view?
In the last, I don't know, month or so, I have seen so many stories that ring of what Ed Dames has warned of.
Now, Aaron Donahue is a different case, and Ed Dames has his own views of Aaron Donahue.
But commenting on Ed Dames, with respect to what's going on in the sun and some of what the scientists have been warning about with regard to our sun, some of the disease that Ed Dames has warned about that's beginning to manifest itself,
I know it's easy to laugh at and criticize Ed Dames, but I'm beginning to hear echoes in the news and in science that underscore so much of what Ed Dames has said.
And I wonder if any of the rest of you are seeing that.
I'm calling in regards to your guest this evening.
I'm an older senior citizen, and I've never revealed any of this other to my priest.
I'm just curious, how authentic do you believe the visitation Of an extraterrestrial is the reason why I'm asking is that I've had, I believe, three visits.
One visit was right after I graduated from college.
My parents sent me to my homeland, Italy.
My parents took Italy went to go visit relatives there.
And while I was touring, as it was, I believe, like I say, I've never revealed this evidence to my priest, and he kind of blew it away.
But at any rate, these figures, three of them, were similar to what your guests this evening described as a object three and a half feet, four feet tall.
There are so many of you now who are claiming contact or abduction.
Let's turn this into a show of contact and abduction.
So if everybody else would hang up, just hang up.
And I know I'll only get a marginal amount of cooperation with that, but I'm going to give it a try.
Why?
Because it's so interesting.
Whether it was my one-hour guest there, Dick Criswell, or whether it's tomorrow night's guest, Jim Sparks, or whether it's the fellow I've got on the line right now, or thousands more like him, there's absolutely no question about it.
A lot of Americans, thousands, maybe tens of thousands and millions, are reporting contact with aliens.
So let's turn this into that show.
If everybody else who has not had contact with aliens would be so kind as to hang your phone up, clear the lines for those who have actually had contact, let's listen to a few of these stories and see what we get.
Just very briefly, before we break back to this caller, caller, please continue.
You had contact with Grace, you think?
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Well, yeah, that's what's going on.
And bear in mind my question to you was, you know, the artistry, how authentic do you really feel this is?
Well, the first time I didn't know what, you know, I've never been on drugs.
I don't use alcohol.
I didn't know what to think.
I thought, well, maybe this is just a hallucination of some sort because of the area I was in the catacombs in Italy touring, as I was trying to tell you.
I didn't pay no attention.
And then after 18 years of marriage, I lost my wife to cancer.
And right afterward, after being extremely despondent and so forth, I had another visit.
I had pretty much forgotten the first one, except what they told me.
So this brought back a lot of fresh memories.
And actually, it did somewhat ease the despondency and the pain I was going through after losing a person living with an 18-year.
So, listen, I've had two connections with or experiences with what I call one with just what I call the alien voice in my head that I heard, and the other with, and the other, another second incident, heard the voice which said, look up and saw the UFO in the daylight incident.
So, I mean, let's just break it down briefly.
So, you know, 1997, driving in the car northwest of Baltimore, towards one of the suburbs right there from downtown Wedder Work, daylight, sunny, sun in the sky.
And as I'm driving down the road, understand this.
This is the day after the night when I posted a website with what became widely known as another anomaly on Mars.
So that's, I discover it in a flash, post it on the internet in 1997.
I was working as a webmaster, early webmaster at the time.
On my way the next day, literally, and this is some people who know me know about this story, on my way to close a deal between a major paranormal-related magazine, let's say, and a leading 900-member company to do a 1-900 UFO info line, which no one has ever done.
It doesn't happen.
Why that's the case is a whole other story.
Bottom line, imagine those two incidents.
As I'm driving to work the next day, as I'm driving to work the next day, literally I'm five minutes away from work and I'm thinking to myself, why did that happen?
What does this mean?
You know, why have I never seen anything?
Literally heard the voice in my head say, look up.
So I literally looked up as I'm driving.
There's literally down one of the main roads there, not a highway, but look up and there it is.
Silver disc suspended right in the sky.
Estimated size, literally the classic shape of, say, between a dime and a corner held at arm's length.
Sun reflecting off the top left-hand corner of it.
Clearly it was metallic.
I take my glasses off, stick my head in out of the car door.
It's literally very high trees right there.
So to look, it's clear.
I'm like, maybe it's just nothing.
It's literally there.
Not a blimp, not an airship, not a helicopter, not a plane.
I've been around them all my life like all of you have.
We know when we see them, when we don't, I feel like.
Make a long story short, as I'm driving, I've got to get somebody to look at it.
I try to get people to look.
I don't have a camera with me.
Guy to my right at the next stoplight.
Can you see it?
You kind of see it, oh, he's got to go.
I start driving again.
Maybe I'll get to this major sort of where the kids hang out, you know, when they cut class, the cemetery right there.
You know, beautiful lake.
You know, I'll get there.
Well, as I'm driving, I look up and it goes from in that spot to moving in a literally that fast step-like pattern over maybe five body lengths.
If you can imagine the classic, it would smash the head of any human inside there type situation.
Right.
Literally then I'm like, what?
What?
As I'm staring at it, the hair stands up in the back of my neck.
I look forward.
I'm about to smash in the back of the vehicle in front of me.
I slam on my brakes, stop just short of it, look back up, and the silver disc, again, affixed right there, is in the same spot, but now I'm experiencing seeing it literally for about three seconds of what I call the phase out, not the blast away at high speed, but literally look like it was twinkling straight out of, if you saw a Star Trek episode and overlaid in reality.
I'm like, what, what, what?
Look ahead again because I have to slam my brakes again from, you know, having almost hit that car, look up again, and it's gone.
Again, heard the voice, looked up, silver metallic, stuck in place, stepped like pattern, phases out.
I mean, for a guy who's researched this stuff as long as I have, it was unbelievable.
That was the only incident I ever had.
I then dropped that deal.
Nobody ever did, and straight to this day, I challenge it.
I think people, thank you, would be very suspicious of a 900 line.
That's a way to make money, of course.
And so I think people would be naturally suspicious of that.
In terms of your sighting, though, it's a good one.
I had a similar one just walking up my driveway one day, again, with Ramona.
And as we walked up the driveway, there it was, a silver disc in a contrail, or very near a contrail of a jet that was probably on its way to San Francisco.
And this thing finally shot to the south in the classic takeoff kind of way.
All right, well, I very much appreciate the story.
That's a kind of physical evidence, I guess.
And that is what I'm after here.
I'm after people who have had actual encounters.
And if you could be here and look, you would see the lines are clearly all lit up.
So we're talking about thousands, perhaps millions of Americans who believe they've had something happen to them.
Believe they've encountered people from elsewhere.
Now, that's a non-trivial story.
It's a non-trivial fact.
You can take certainly some of them, and you can discount them.
What you should not do is discount people who are not particularly articulate about it.
Don't discount them.
Sort of lump them in with the rest.
People tend to do that because somebody is not particularly articulate and doesn't speak the king's English.
They automatically discount the story, where the exact opposite is also true.
If somebody is very well-spoken and unwinds their story in a fascinating, interesting way, then you tend to believe them.
So don't discard stories because a person is not necessarily very articulate.
The fact that we're getting so many of them, the fact that you can say, look, we want to talk to people who have had alien encounters, and you get a full stack of lines just waiting for you.
And as I was doing so, I saw a multicolored, what I would, you know, the first thing that came to my mind was that it was the shuttle or some satellite going by.
It was going by very slowly, and it was multicolored.
There were rainbow colors, meaning red, blue, green, sparkling.
It was slowly going over Lake Michigan, of which I live, approximately three blocks from, I live in Racine, Wisconsin, three blocks from the lake.
And what was very interesting that there was this sudden feeling that I should take consciousness of this, forget about the telescope, and I followed it with my eyes.
I got this intense feeling to hop in my car, drive the three blocks to the lake.
And where I live, there's a bluff.
There's a, you know, you know what I mean?
There's a drop-off, a bluff that goes down to the lake bed down below.
Right.
Now, I had an intense psychic, for lack of better words, I'm not an educated man.
I felt that I should follow this thing, and there was something telling me to follow this thing and jump in my car and go and follow this.
And when I got to this bluff, it was still there.
I would say a mile off of the coastline.
Well, you know how everybody says that they see these lights in the sky and they zigzag and they go up and zap out of your vision and all that kind of thing?
And when it hit the water, it went under the water and there was a large glow.
And I watched it and kind of lost consciousness.
Now, this was not, again, I heard one of your earlier callers say that, oh, they don't do drugs and all this kind of stuff.
I wasn't under the influence of anything at the time at all.
I watched this in intense curiosity, and I've been listening to your show for quite some time, since before the new guys kind of took it over, which I do have a question, if you would allow me to, at the end.
And I will Tell you that approximately three to three and a half, maybe four hours later, I found myself in a haze driving back home, which is only a straight shot.
There's a main boulevard, DeCoven Avenue, that goes right down to where I'm talking about.
You were missing all that time, three or four hours?
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I missed three hours, approximately three hours plus, and I got back home, and I felt like I was in a haze when I got back home.
I made it safely.
Everything was fine.
I pulled into the driveway.
At the time, my fiancé had gotten back from work.
I explained it all to her, of which we're both believers in, well, shall we say, other entities in the universe.
And I explained it all to her, but there was about a three and a half hour period of time that I lost.
And I sat there and explained it to her, and I might add that I sat there on the bluff in kind of a haze and watched this thing hit the water.
There was an intense glow underneath the water.
And I have to finish by saying this thing shot out and away underneath the water with an intense glow towards Michigan because I live on the west side of the lake.
I'm going referring to your get to refer to your guest bringing up the book of Ezekiel in the Bible.
Yes.
Now, that book was written, Ezekiel's story was written long before Christ was ever born.
So if there are people that have doubts about spacecraft, pick up your Bible, folks.
Turn to the book of Ezekiel, and you'll read all about the first spinning wheels that ever came to earth after the earth was populated with people, plants, and animals.
I think most ufologists, most people who have investigated UFOs have been pointed toward the Bible before, but that was not an actual encounter story, and that's what we're after tonight.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
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Hi, I have a story.
Okay.
Basically, I was in my bed and I woke up and there was a dog over me and he wasn't my dog.
So I wake up my sister.
I tell her, wake up, there's a dog.
She's like, what dog?
I don't see a dog.
He ran out the door.
Two days later, the same dog comes back.
I followed this dog down the hallway.
And by the time I reached the end of the hallway, it's daylight.
I'm a security guard in Detroit, and I'll tell you, I see some weird stuff all the time late night here.
But my story is actually based when I was in San Antonio, Texas, and I was living in a trailer, and I woke up in the middle of the night one night and saw this creature.
I wouldn't even call it gray, but it was definitely the description a lot of people want to give.
And that day, I had some dental work done, and it was pretty heavily drug-induced that I thought of.
But I got up to attack this thing, and it struck me over the head with a can of Campbell's soup that was on the counter.
And I woke up the next day on the floor, bump on the back of my head, can of soup gone.
And the person I was living with couldn't really explain the whole thing altogether ever since.
I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I have never had one of these encounters.
I've had some strange things occur to me in my life, but I have never communicated with anything that I consider to be from anywhere else, for whatever that's worth.
I speak with this one woman that's been there for years.
I told her what's been going on.
She says to me that, well, it could be the guy that died three floors up.
This building is about 10 floors up.
And she said, yes, about a year ago, this guy had a heart attack, just died right on the spot.
And he died right in his office building, right up on the third floor.
He goes, it could, it could be him.
And she was laughing, you know?
And it's just weird because since I started working here, every morning, it's like somebody's there with me.
I mean, to where I got to turn my head.
When I'm doing my log work and I'm doing my reports, I actually have to turn my head and just keep looking, like, every two seconds in back of me, because I know someone is in back here watching me.
And I'm not sure that the kind of story you're hearing right now and then supposed alien contact stories, I'm not sure how different they really are.
I guess that's part of what I'm probing here.
All of these stories seem to sort of mix together, and that's why ufology and the paranormal world, I think, may be connected.
I wrote a book once called The Source that attempted, really attempted to kind of put all of this together, and I'm still not so sure that it doesn't all belong together.
And an apparition appeared in the room, and we asked it what its name was, and it told us its name, and it turned out later that what name it told us was Lucifer spelled backwards.
And we were so scared, we did what it said to do.
It said to blow out the candles and shake the shaman rattle and that it would scare the spirit away.
And then you would look into the crystal and when it was in, trapped in the crystal, you couldn't see through the crystal.
Well, nothing you're saying about this is a surprise.
I had a very, very bad, one-time experience with the Ouija board that I don't talk about.
And I think they open doors to areas that you don't want to go.
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Well, this one at the bottom, I went back because my family still doesn't believe that that's what caused all of our families trouble, even though half of our family's dead now.
And I looked where it said it was manufactured, and this was just a couple of years ago, and I wrote it down.
And all that's left of it, all the rattles and all the other things are gone.
I'm not sure if it is an alien thing or not, but when I was a little girl, I used to always see things in my closet, and I'd always freak out, right?
But I've noticed over the years, I've always been, like when I'm sleeping, like if I was sleeping on my tummy, I would always feel like someone's pricking me in the back.
And then when I was just about two weeks ago, the same thing started happening again to me.
And this time it felt like someone was like, like I woke up because I couldn't breathe.
And something was pressing against my back, and it totally freaked me out.
And my cats were like freaking out at my door, meowing, trying to get in.
And again, I'm not at all sure that these things are not all connected.
That is to say, that UFOs, paranormal activity in general, that it's not all in some way connected.
It may all be from the same source.
And when you take call after call after call, I'm not really sure that it's easy to delineate between the people who describe alien contact, or at least some of them, and people who describe sleep paralysis combined with seeing something out their window and the rest of it.
I'm kind of working on that in my mind, and I hope many of the rest of you are as well.
I was reading a book called Star People, Francie and Brad Steiger.
And so I was thinking about UFOs and so on at that time.
And I sat down to meditate one evening, and I heard a high-pitched tone that wasn't like inner sounds that you sometimes hear in meditation, or it wasn't like an outer sound, but it was something kind of in between that.
And so I had no hesitation whatsoever.
I just knew I was supposed to go with the sound, and I went with it.
And I found myself inside a ship, which was a saucer-type ship.
And it felt like to me it was hovering over the I couldn't really see outside, but it felt like it was hovering over the vineyard, which was next door to me.
And it was, and what I saw inside was this arched white light panel, which went from the bottom of the, what seemed like the bottom, from the whole length from the floor to the ceiling of the ship.
And it had rays coming out of the white light, which were different colors of the rainbow, soft colors.
And I felt like if they were about the size of my hand, and I felt like if I knew what the colors did, I could just put my hand over these colors and the ship would move in some way.
But I didn't know what the colors did, and I didn't want to do anything that I didn't know anything about.
I think that, again, it points to a kind of a confusion between what most of us call the paranormal and what a lot of us call ufology.
I really see a great mixture here.
I see a I don't even know how we delineate between the two, between some sort of paranormal experience, something that may be coming from another adjacent dimension, and something that's real and physical and from another planet.
I'm not sure we're capable of knowing the difference.
I guess like you're holding, you know, you hold your breath and then somebody comes up behind you and grabs you.
That's right.
I did that, and when that happened, I guess I went to some other dimension, but when I woke up or when I was in the other dimension, I was on my back, and it felt like I was maybe on a lunar landscape on the moon, and I was surrounded by aliens, gray aliens.
And I don't know what we've set loose, but again, I guess it's a success from the point of view that what we're getting are sightings of things in the sky.
We're not getting abduction reports other than the ones that come from some time ago.
But we are getting massive numbers of sightings in the sky.