James Gilliland, a self-proclaimed "UFO ambassador," claims direct telepathic contact with extraterrestrials since a 1980s near-death experience, asserting humanity’s evolution toward peace depends on aligning with benevolent beings. He cites suppressed footage—including ABC and Jay Leno’s teams—and ancient legends (Chinese, Egyptian, Tibetan) to support his assertions, while dismissing demonization claims as fear-based distortions. Gilliland’s experiments, like spotlight-triggered plasma ships in Mexico or Chernobyl radiation reduction, suggest intent shapes encounters, though governments allegedly suppress evidence. Skeptics like "Mike the skeptic" clash with Bell’s defense of Gilliland’s credibility, including witnesses like aerospace engineers. A proposed mass intent experiment yields reports of round lights over Oregon and blue plasma balls in Kansas, hinting at a shift from military suppression to open-minded contact—though Gilliland insists true progress requires global consciousness evolution, not forced intervention. [Automatically generated summary]
From the high desert in the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening, good morning, good afternoon, wherever you may be in the cosmos, in all its collective time zones.
Each and everyone covered by this program, Coast to Coast A.M. I'm Art Bell.
And it certainly is my honor and privilege to be here to escort you through the weekend.
It's going to be a pretty good night, James Gilliland, in the next hour.
This hour, we'll do unscreened open lines, which means you dial and let it ring till I answer.
But then when I do, you turn down your radio right away, like instantly as you hear me answer the phone.
And then the rules are pretty simple.
The interesting people get airtime.
The others probably fall away pretty quickly.
So that's the measure of airtime, generally.
Of course, you could have a short and sweet and very important message, I suppose.
All right, we'll look at, oh, the webcam tonight.
A little more of a tease.
You may recall I went and saw the incredible Robert Bigelow Aerospace Facility.
And that's another little tease photograph.
I'm taking the less important photographs, as it were, although it's really a cool photograph in a lot of ways.
This is a photograph that I took over the shoulder of the helicopter pilot as we were approaching the mountain range between here and Las Vegas.
The Senate gridlocked on the Iraq war in a sharply worded showdown Saturday as Republicans foiled a Democratic bid to repudiate President Bush's deployment of 21,500 additional combat troops.
Now, the vote was 5634.
That would fall far short of the 60 they needed to do it.
Democratic presidential hopefuls in the Senate cast symbolic votes Saturday against President Bush's effort to boost troop levels in Iraq amid calls by campaign rivals for Congress to embrace far stronger measures to end the war.
Senator John McCain skipped the vote.
He is campaigning in Iowa, perhaps more productive for him.
I have always been a fan of Senator McCain's, and I know many of you are as well.
Looks like he's running.
He's going to be a very, very strong contender.
It's going to be an interesting presidential race, don't you think?
A woman, John McCain, a black man, and a whole field, really, by the time they all get done, who knows how many will be in there, but it's going to be a very, very interesting presidential race, and perhaps one of the most interesting in our collective lifetimes, I would imagine.
A man accused of roughing up a Nobel laureate in San Francisco at a hotel earlier this month was arrested Saturday.
Montgomery Township police arrested Eric Hunt, 22 of Sussex County, New Jersey at 1.30 p.m.
Eastern, faces charges that include attempted kidnapping, false imprisonment, child abuse, stalking, battery, commission of a hate crime.
It's quite a list.
The mere idea that U.S. soldiers on leave from Iraq see Rio's carnival as a free-floating sex party has Brazilians totally outraged.
A report in Britain's The Guardian newspaper that American soldiers are looking to Rio for RNR now, especially the sex tourism part, prompted many Brazilians to say the gringos have got it all wrong.
That might come from what's on gringo TV all the time.
I mean, that's what it looks like down there, right?
Brittany Spears.
Now, what has she done to herself?
She appeared in a tattoo parlor in the San Fernando Valley with her head shaved completely bald.
Video on KBC television showed the newly shorn Spears with tiny tattoos on the back of her neck as she sits Friday night for a new tattoo, a pair of red and pink lips.
Why would Brittany Spears do that?
Anna Nicole Smith embalming completed.
And that's as much as I'm going to read.
The TV has been haunted, haunted, I tell you, all week long by Anna Nicole Smith.
Now, I know there's $500 million at issue here, I suppose.
But I'm sick and tired of that story.
And I, you know, I've hardly seen it.
I haven't been watching a lot of television.
We've been very, very busy here at Bell House.
But every time you turn it on, it's haunted by Anna Nicole Smith.
Enough said.
Next time you dread a trip to the dentist, consider the plight of poor Tusco the Elephant.
This one caught my eye.
It took veterinarians and a dentist nearly five hours Saturday to remove what was left of an elephant's infected tusk at the Oregon Zoo.
It took a chainsaw, hand saws, as well as a drill that can punch through concrete to do the job.
I hope there was some numbing available.
Anyway, hey, by the way, Chinese New Year is upon us.
It is the year of the pig.
Now, the pig is not a celebrated character most places.
You know, I mean, there's, you know, he eats like a pig.
He's a pig, she's a pig, whatever.
But actually, the year of the pig, I read, and this is the year of the golden pig, the Chinese New Year.
This is very special, comes about every 60 or 600 years, depending upon what you believe.
And it is said that children born in the year of the pig have wealth, success, and so the Chinese are getting their wives pregnant as quickly as they can.
They all want children in the year of the pig.
And so I guess that bodes well for the little bell on the way.
In a moment, we'll look at a little of the rest of the news.
Very interesting, a Delta II rocket lifted five NASA satellites, science satellites, into space Saturday evening from Cape Canaveral.
Now, that launch had been delayed by a day of upper-level winds.
The strong winds would have affected the rocket's path.
Probes are part of a mission to figure out the source of powerful geomagnetic substorms in the Earth's atmosphere.
Scientists hope the $200 million mission will somehow unravel the mystery behind these storms that can damage communication satellites, disable power grids, and shoot high levels of radiation down on spacewalking astronauts and airplane passengers flying over northern latitudes.
Scientists believe they also periodically intensify these spectacular light shows called the Northern Lights, or, if you will, Aurora Borealis.
For 30 years, people have tried to understand what causes the onset of these substorms.
However, I guess we still don't.
It's still elusive.
We just don't know.
And I thought we did.
I thought we understood that when the sun erupted eight minutes later or so, we would get the first particles.
And then, oh, I don't know, 24 to 36 hours later, the heavier, slower particles that would cause all of this.
So I'm not sure what they mean by substorms.
At any rate, scientists apparently are having a great debate about what causes these substorms, so-called.
And this spacecraft with many satellites is supposed to settle the argument at a cost of only $200 million.
This was an interesting email that led me to do a little research.
Art, I'm sure you've already heard about this, and it was true I had.
But this story broke at the end of CBS News on February 12th, and it made my hair stand on end.
Bees are disappearing from 22 states in the U.S. Not dying, disappearing, vanishing.
The report and video both mentioned that bee pollination is the only way that many crops are able to be pollinated, of course.
This on top of crop loss from weather and so forth could be pointing to a serious loss of crop supply here in the U.S. And no mention of any bee loss in the rest of the world.
Scary and mysterious.
So looking a little closer, something is killing the nation's honeybees, that's for sure.
Dave Hackenberg of Central Pennsylvania had 3,000 hives and figures now he's lost all but about 800.
That's from 3,000 to 800.
In labs at Pennsylvania State University, the Pennsylvania Department of Agriculture and elsewhere in the nation, researchers have been stunned by the number of calls about the mysterious losses.
Every day you hear of another operator who's lost the bees.
It's just causing so much death so quickly, it's startling.
At stake is the work the honeybees do, and it's non-trivial.
They pollinate more than $15 billion worth of U.S. crops, including Pennsylvania's apple harvest, the fourth largest in the nation, worth $45 million, New Jersey's cranberries and blueberries.
While a few crops, oh, like corn, wheat, are pollinated by the wind, most crops actually need bees, and without them, crop yields would fall dramatically.
Agronomists estimate that Americans rather owe one in three bites of all your food to bees.
Now that's worth thinking about.
We Americans owe one in three bites of food to bees.
The problem caps 20 years of honeybee woes, including two mites that killed the valuable insect and a predatory beetle that attacked the honeycombs of weak or dead colonies.
Marianne Frazier, who does this work for a living, says it's by far the most alarming.
One of the first to notice the latest die-off was Hackenberg, somebody named Hackenberg, who lives in Lewisburg, north of Harrisburg in Union City, in a sun, truck about 3,000 hives up and down the East Coast.
And as was mentioned, they are down now to about 800.
So as if we didn't need something else to worry about, there you have it, one in three bites of food.
You can thank the bees.
And the bees are mysteriously, strangely, bizarrely, simply disappearing.
The long-term rather stability of the massive ice sheets of Antarctica, which have the potential to raise sea levels by hundreds of meters, has now been called into question with the discovery of fast-moving rivers of water sliding beneath their base.
This is bad.
Scientists analyzing satellite data were absolutely astonished to discover the size of the vast lakes and river systems flowing beneath the Antarctic ice sheets.
And of course, they're worried they may lubricate the movement of the glaciers as they flow into the surrounding sea.
So in other words, if you can picture it in your mind, you've got these large ice sheets, but now you've got these rivers, these vast areas of moving water beneath them.
And what they're virtually worried about is that the whole mess is going to slide into the sea.
So much to worry About these days, global warming.
No matter what the cause you happen to believe of it is, whether it's a natural cyclic thing or it's, you know, it's the hand of man.
It doesn't really matter.
It's occurring in the wake of global warming and the genetic manipulation of seeds.
A lot of countries now around the world are starting seed banks.
That's a pretty good idea.
Latest seed bank.
And when they begin seed banks, I would say we should worry because they're worried.
They're spending money on saving seeds for the worst.
Latest seed bank will freeze seeds inside a mountain in Norway called Salvard, where they'll lay frozen and dry, even if glaciers melt, sea levels rise, and the worst happens.
CNN quotes agricultural expert Terry Fowler as saying, quote, it will be the best freezer in the world by several orders of magnitude.
The seeds will be safe there for decades.
It's a place that's a safety backup, and we hope we never have to use it.
Well, I hope they don't too.
This from Whitley Striebers, unknown country as well.
You wouldn't know it from reading the national news, but local news outlets all over the country are reporting UFO sightings.
We are having a flap.
There's no question about it.
Tonight's guest, I'm sure, will expand on that.
He talks about UFOs, but they're being seen all over the world.
UFO sightings in this case that look very much like the famous Phoenix lights that were seen by hundreds of people about 10 years ago now.
Has it really been 10 years?
In the Main Sun Journal, Maggie Gill Austern quotes Sheriff's Department Dispatcher Bill Hoyt as saying, quote, the phone was ringing off the hook.
People were seeing a string of seven or eight lights very low in the sky that were fixed.
There also were reports of jet engine noise low to the ground.
Hoyt called the FAA and was able to rule out any military exercises.
So what were they?
Well, nobody knows.
All right, we're going to go to unscreened open lines now.
And again, that means that you have to turn your radio off immediately as you hear me say you're on the air.
It also means that you must be interesting.
You must have something of some magnitude to say.
West of the Rockies, the number?
1-800-618-8255.
Listen carefully now.
East of the Rockies, that's a lot of territory.
1-800-825-5033.
If you are a first-time caller, we love them.
It's area code 818-501-4721-4721.
But you can only use that once in your life.
The wildcard line, and there are many of those, so your chance of getting through there is pretty good.
Area code 818-501-40109.
And finally, if you're outside the country, we have an international line.
Get hold of your operator and have her dial for you if you're outside the country.
It's 800-893-0903.
That said, let us go explore.
Wildcard Line.
Wild Card Line, you are on the air.
Hi.
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Hi, Charlotte.
My name is Matt.
I'm just calling because I want to tell you I agree with you about 9-11.
I don't think our president or any other president would like to see the towers get bombed.
But I do think that it's a shame that these workers who went down there breathed in all those toxic fumes and all the dust, and the government's not doing a whole lot to help them out.
I was talking to somebody else earlier today about that, and it's that if you recall correctly, about, well, it was within hours, literally within hours of the 9-11 disaster, they were saying, oh, the air is fine.
Now, that's crazy.
Let's think about this for a moment, folks.
Buildings containing a lot of asbestos, a lot of just unimaginable amounts of chemicals, burned, crashed, infected the air.
It was so thick that breathing apparatus was required.
And within a day or two, the government was saying, oh, the air is okay.
Well, as we all know now, there have been substantial numbers of people who have come down with terrible lung disease from breathing that air.
And I just, I don't understand how they could say the air was okay.
Maybe somebody did some measurement somewhere and it said it was breathable.
I don't know, but it's quite a stretch.
And even I have a very difficult time believing that all was well.
Just literally, what, 24 or 48 hours after the buildings came down, no way.
It is logical, I suppose, that in a place where a number of people have died, whether that would be a hospital or a doctor's office, I don't think that many die in a doctor's office, but certainly a hospital where surgical operations are going on and where you have critical care units in place and people are, you know, they die all the time.
It happens.
If, in fact, we go on and we don't quite go all the way on right away, and I do believe that, I have good reason to believe that, then, yes, you might have seen somebody who has passed away.
And they might appear to you as a shadow person.
That is to say, somebody now in another dimension.
Sort of.
I'm Art Bell.
Mysterious and disconcerting.
David in Oregon City, Oregon adds, Ed Dames said the bees would die off.
Do you remember, Art?
Said they'd go blind.
Something about a change in the sun.
And to be fair, Ed Dames did say that about the bees.
And what's the latest news about the bees?
Well, we're not sure, but they are mysteriously disappearing.
We'll be right back.
Boy, the last thing in the world we want is for Ed Dames to be right about nearly anything.
But he may be calling this one bees all of a sudden.
I have a prediction when Guyan Sawyer was talking to the man at Iran, and when she was asking about war and stuff like that, he directed his talk to her about springtime.
So I think in springtime, this spring, something's going to happen over Iran or Iraq because George Bush ordered 20,000 soldiers over there.
And when that happens, there's going to be a lot of soldiers that's going to be in harm's way.
And with that many soldiers over there, overseas, other countries will take advantage of that.
All the signs point to imminent action with respect to Iran.
Now, I think it would be a terrible mistake for us.
On the other hand, we, the world, really cannot let them get the bomb, can we?
It's damned if you do and probably close to extinction if you don't.
So I'm not sure what I would do if I was president.
And are you really sure what you would do?
If you saw Iran on the verge of getting the bomb, or perhaps making a deal with Korea and obtaining one right away, what would you do if you were president?
And before criticizing what any president does, I think it's well worthwhile to sit for a moment and try and imagine yourself being responsible for the safety and welfare of the American people.
What would you do under those circumstances or some others you could name?
And several times in the past, you've shared your story about you had the urge about your car and the desire to, or the urge that you needed to move it.
And then I guess somebody rammed in behind it shortly afterwards.
Yeah, I got to actually watch them go down the sidewalk, get in the car, start it up, slam it into reverse, and hit my car.
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Well, this week I was shopping for new cars, and I just got a sudden urge like, the salesman was with me, and as I walked up to this car, I said, is this a sinking feeling that you better check this car for gas?
I mean, you better check it.
It was just an overwhelming urge.
Well, the car was so pinned in, so tight in the lot, and as soon as I started it, of course, I'm checking mirrors to back out and everything, and I didn't even check for gas.
And as soon as we got out on the freeway, as soon as we got on the freeway, it ran out.
And, of course, fortunately, we didn't end up like your car did.
But we got it pulled off and got back to the dealership.
And anyway, it's just so strange how that urge just came over me.
It seems strange to you because you didn't listen to it, but it registered in your brain.
And then you didn't listen to it.
You got out of the freeway and booyah, it happened.
It's not strange, though.
I think that a lot of us have these a lot of times.
Now, what I had was not subtle, and that's a very important point.
What I had was, it was like giant ocean waves crashing over my brain again and again and again, each time getting stronger until finally I would say a nasty word and get up and go and look at my car.
Wasn't really interested.
I just was forced to do it by these strong emotions, these strong, that's the only way I can describe it, like crashing ocean waves, something you just totally can't ignore.
Most times, it's much more subtle than that.
And you know something's going to happen, but you discard the feeling, and then it happens.
How many times has that happened to you?
Those who learn to listen to their inner selves, it sounds kind of new agey, right?
Listen to your inner self.
But those who learn to listen to their inner selves have a great deal more success in life in whatever they endeavor to do.
And what I wanted to say was that I appreciate so much, and I noticed that you asked the very questions many times that I would ask.
And I think most of your listeners would agree that you're a great intermediary for all of us.
And I really appreciate the diplomacy and the restraint you use with guests that you may disagree with, but you are so tactful and you ask such appropriate questions.
I try to anticipate, I guess, and that should be the mark of any decent interviewer.
You ask the questions that should be occurring to the audience out there at about the same time and then follow up on them.
And one important element in all of that is listening to what your guest or your caller actually is saying.
That leads down some very interesting roads, let's put it that way.
So no matter who they are, whether I agree or disagree with them really does not matter.
There is, however, something I would like to note that's going on, and that is that people who disagree with you, no matter what the subject, conclude that you're bad at what you do.
Now, a person's interviewing skills are what they are, good, bad, or indifferent.
And their opinions are something else altogether.
And I guess it takes some measure of intellect to discern between the two.
That is to say, between an opinion that you might or might not agree with and their skill at doing their job, no matter who they happen to encounter.
That may seem a little difficult to understand, but those who need to hear it, I'm sure, understand it.
I was just calling, I wonder if you ever heard of anybody speaking of a UFO as a blue orb that may have left a trail of a blue line behind it as it went across the sky.
Yes, one evening in northern Pennsylvania, they're coming down south through New York State.
Just as I crossed the state line, there's a slight gray than a, I wouldn't say a mount, but a fair hill.
And as I was climbing the hill, I saw from the left a big blue orb with a long, streaking tail, almost like as if you played with a glowing stick from a fire and you swing it around.
I've seen green orbs, if you want to call them that, glowing balls of almost plasma that leave a trail behind them, blue ones.
Now, look, most times, more times than not, I guess it's fair to call them UFOs because they're unidentified flying objects, or they appear to be flying.
Probably the majority of them are meteorites.
And, you know, that's a fair and reasonable thing to say, and I'm sure it's also true.
But not all of them are.
Some of them are moving in ways that meteorites or aircraft, if you will, simply don't move in.
And that's a problem that we run into in ufology, and that is that it's easily debunked.
Because, of course, the majority of the reports are something else.
The majority of the reports are not real UFOs.
And even I violate my own dictate.
Real UFOs.
What's a real UFO?
A real unidentified flying object.
I guess I'm trying to say something either man-made or not man-made, as in not human-made.
There are some of those out there, but they are in the distinct minority.
And most of what we see, like that truck driver, I'm sure is probably a meteorite.
Though even those, I caution everybody, look until you get to the smoking rock, as it were.
Don't say you only saw a meteorite because you don't know that.
Well, actually, I'm 25 years old, but it began in 1989.
I was eight years old then, and it was either on a Saturday or a Sunday during either the spring, the summer, or the fall.
And I was sitting in the living room, and I was getting up and I was walking to my bedroom, and I was walking down the hallway, and before the hallway starts, there's the kitchen.
And as I was walking down the hallway, out of the corner of my right eye, I saw like a black shadow.
So I turned and I was looking towards the kitchen, and out of the kitchen window, I could see a black shadow.
After it ducked down, part of the forehead was still showing.
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Yes, exactly.
And I didn't tell my mom or my dad or my sisters because, you know, I'm an eight-year-old child, so they would have probably thought either I was lying or I was seeing things.
Now, flash forward to a couple weeks later, it was again like a sunny weekend day, and I went back inside and I was sitting in the living room again in a rocking chair watching TV.
And I could feel, you know, that feeling that you get when there's someone watching you.
I turned behind my right shoulder because I could feel someone watching me.
And I didn't think anything of it.
I thought that I was going to see one of my sisters or my mom or my dad.
And I saw that black shadow again.
And I jumped out of my chair and I was spinning around.
And I was thinking, this is it.
I'm going to spin around and the shadow is going to be right in front of me.
But when I finally spun around, it was gone.
Now, at this point, I'm thinking, either I'm nuts or I'm really seeing this thing.
So I didn't tell anyone about it.
Now, sometime after that, it was finally at night and I was sleeping in my bedroom.
Yeah, you seem, I've got a scoot here because we're at the top of the hour, but it sounds very much to me as though you're absolutely telling the truth.
Now, what you saw, what kind of encounter you had, and why it cooperated with your flashing light and followed you, I don't know.
It'd be fun to talk to your brother, though.
I'm Art Bell.
Indeed, it would seem so.
Hi, everybody.
You know, I'm not going to dismiss these shadow person stories.
Maybe we ought to get back into it.
When you get such a massive, uncalled-for, that is to say, I didn't stir anything up kind of response, and it just comes and comes and comes, it means something's going on.
Now, some people get fed up with it, kind of like ghost stories.
I've heard enough ghost stories.
Well, when you get shadow person, shadow person, shadow person again and again and again, it means something's happening.
And it's, you know, it's well worth looking into.
And if it's increasing, it means something's going on.
So there would be no other program, no other national program that would deal with this sort of thing.
And if there's a lot of this going on, hello, something is going on.
We'll look into it.
I'll try and figure out how to dig deeper.
Coming up in a moment, James Gilliland is an internationally known speaker, minister, visionary, author of two books, Reunion, the Source, and Becoming Gods 2.
He is the director of the Self-Mastery Earth Institute, ESETI, if you will, enlightened contact with extraterrestrial intelligence.
After a near-death experience, he returned with what he refers to as an interdimensional mind.
That is to say, the ability to move beyond the body, personality, and other planes and dimensions throughout the multiverse.
This includes the ability to experience different timelines and future probabilities.
He is dedicated to the awakening of all of humanity and the earth, as well as engineering and ushering in new healing and earth-friendly technologies.
He's a very interesting guy.
He's been seeing UFOs and helping other people see UFOs for a very long time now, so he's just the right guy to have on with this incredible UFO flap we've got going on around the world right now.
In a moment, James Gilliland.
I guess James qualifies as a fairly frequent guest on Coast, and the reason for that is he's very, very interesting.
I think in our last interview, I talked about this as that it was up and coming and that the real disclosure was going to come from the sky, not so much from the ground, although I totally commend the work doing.
You know, the people are doing the disclosure work on the ground and opening the door for that.
But the real support for that work and the real disclosure is actually going to be coming from the skies, and it's going to increase exponentially.
And after the near-death experience, there's about probably 30 years of intense training, meditation techniques, and training with yogis and lamas and a lot of inner sensitivity training classes and ministerial classes as well.
What is it that's going on in the history of our planet right now?
And as far as mortals are concerned, it's a long history that is bringing it to what you believe to be a peak and disclosure, as you put it, from the sky.
Well, they've pretty much gotten what they needed, and the more benevolent ones are coming in, so it's part of our evolutionary process that in the beginning, there's an old saying, the mind in which you seek is the mind in which you connect.
And so, you know, we still are a pretty primitive and warlike race.
And so the first contact, we had a choice on whether to align with some very benevolent ones, but we had to choose universal peace and come together as a planet and start working on, you know, restoring our environment and things of that nature.
Those were the guidelines.
And another group came in and said, hey, we'll just give you the technology.
Let us grab a few people and do a little testing.
And so unfortunately, some of our governments and some other governments as well actually aligned with the ones that weren't so benevolent.
And that didn't go real well.
So that phase is closing out right now.
We're entering a whole new phase of more benevolent contacts and very spiritually and technologically advanced beings that are coming to the planet.
Well, what they're doing now is they've broken away from contacting governments because they found the motive there and the consciousness and the energy just isn't right.
But nowadays, in the interest of national security, we really need to choose peace and align with these benevolent ones and get rid of these weapons of mass destruction.
Yeah, I think we're going to get a little push in that direction here because we've shot a few things up, and they just come right back down to the ground.
And we've had missile silos totally decommissioned by the end of the year.
That is true.
And so they've made it pretty clear that they're not going to allow us to have any kind of an exchange.
So it's kind of for naught.
All these Star Wars and defense programs and everything else is just money down the toilet that we should be putting towards our infrastructure and cleaning up the Katrina mess there and rebuilding levees and things of that nature.
We have no business spending trillions of dollars right now on these other projects when we have a big mess at home to take care of.
Well, the problem is that I think the key is physics as we know it, but there is physics that we do know right now, especially quantum physics, that explain exactly how they do it.
And there's a thing called instantaneous communication that things travel and communicate instantaneously.
And I think it's Niels Bohr came out with a lot of this information, and they've been proving it.
So you can go up to the next step to instantaneous travel.
And you don't have to travel long distances like we think we do.
You know, they can actually just punch in the destination, hit a button, and bam, they're there.
So it's instantaneous travel, you might say, and they have that kind of technology.
And the best way to explain it is to understand the nature of the ships, because some ships are physical, some ships are energy, and some are more like light ships as you move up the vibrational continuum.
And then there's some ships that are pure consciousness.
And as you power your ship up and move up in the frequencies, you're not so limited as to travel and all the other capabilities.
So you can actually travel instantaneously by moving your ship out of this physical Reality into an energy or a light reality, or even beyond that, and just jump instantaneous to wherever you need to be.
And that's what they do.
You can see a lot of the footage where the ships are there, and then they just pop and they're gone.
I don't want to mention his name because he's trying to keep his, you might say, well, some people just are working in other fields of politics and science, and they don't really want to go public and talk about UFOs, just particularly one of them.
But every one of the other ones will come on.
I know last night I heard Brooks Agnew on the show with George Norrie and he talked about his experience here and he was actually hit by kind of a beam of energy that hit him right straight through the chest and it lit him up entirely.
Yeah, we had last time we had some engineers here, some aerospace engineers.
One of them was in Skunk Works, and he came on the show, and I remember right in the middle of the show, one of the big ships flew in, and I guess you heard everybody screaming out in the field.
Now, folks, I really want to emphasize what I just said, and that is we could bring person after person after person on here, engineers, those kinds of people, who will back up what James says.
Mike the skeptic from Myrtle Beach, South Carolina says, hey, Art, actually, what your guest is saying is New Age nonsense and gibberish.
There's no proof, no video, no video evidence, no official documentation, nothing.
All he has is anecdotal speculation.
A bunch of people who say they've seen something.
It's worthless.
Well, you know, if all I had was the word of James, I might feel the same way.
But frankly, we have had aerospace engineers, people of all kinds of professional backgrounds that have been to his ranch, and they've seen these things clearly, unambiguously, have seen these things, person after person after person.
Now, that means something.
There's no question about it.
Now, how many photographs does he have in a moment?
We will ask.
By the way, Bob Crane called me from China the other day, two or three days ago, and boy, has he got some great news, which I cannot talk about.
But it really is great news.
Well, all right, James, welcome back.
You heard what Mike the skeptics.
Now, there's nothing you can really do for skeptics.
If you show them a slightly fuzzy photograph, James, they say, oh, another fuzzy photograph of a UFO.
If you show them a crystal clear photograph, they say it's got to be a fake.
I think the general agenda right now is to assist us in our awakening healing process.
And, you know, there are a couple other agendas there, but, you know, we're moving out of the old abduction experimentation and just sitting back and watching phase to even the ones that are just kind of observing and watching us are now starting to take an active role in assisting in this evolutionary process.
And there's actually a lot of them coming from the inner earth, you know, places beneath the earth where they're based.
And Carlos Diaz has some pretty good footage.
And we have some footage.
I put one of them up on your site there of a plasma ship.
And those ships are actually, the beans are actually part of the ship.
But, you know, it's sad because you think about these beings that are very, very spiritually advanced beings and technologically advanced.
You know, they've overcome disease, war, all of this.
They have the technology to restore our environment and clean everything up here.
And, you know, when they come here, we fire on them and try to shoot them down, dissect them, and back engineer the technology for the war industry.
So, you know, people say, well, why aren't they landing at the Super Bowl or why aren't they landing on the White House lawn?
Well, there's your answer.
You know, they are communicating with a lot of the common people now, and they're having contacts all over the world right now, and a lot in Mexico.
There's a lot of contacts going on in Mexico.
But they're contacting a lot of the common people that have cure intent and open mind and a loving heart, and they're not going to try to capitalize on it or turn it into a religion or something.
Even the skeptics, it seems to me, James, have got to wonder.
I mean, the most dramatic encounters, the most dramatic landings or shootdowns, including Roswell, you would think these records would be carefully maintained, and yet they are strangely disappeared.
And this happens in case after case after case.
When Congressman Schiff went after the records, they were, I forget what the official response was, something about they were all destroyed or something like that.
Well, this happens once maybe, but again and again and again.
No way.
So obviously our governments know a great deal more than they have told us.
You couldn't tell the difference if they were walking down the street.
Unless you're very sensitive, you'd feel a frequency or an energy if you were around them.
But, you know, a lot of them look just like us.
As a matter of fact, they're our ancestors returning that, you know, some stuck it out here and a lot of them took off when the cataclysms came and they had the technology to do so.
So it's there's there's beings that now on your page again, if you go to.
But I guess where I'm going with this, James, is why would they step in and prevent either a man-made or non-made cataclysm in our near future and yet not prevent past cataclysms?
I think before understanding the planet, there's some things that were just too big and they couldn't deal with them.
It's a whole planetary thing like a pole shift or something of that nature that was beyond their technology.
You know, all they could do is just either go underground or leave.
And so in the past, but I know for a nuclear exchange, they could step in on that really easy and they've demonstrated that, that they could render almost everything we have inert.
Well, they've sort of demonstrated that, both in Russia and here in the U.S. Yes, yes.
And those are stories in themselves.
But what about something like global warming, the rising sea levels, the disappearance of important things like bees and birds beginning to die off and all these horrid problems we have going on now?
And actually, they are very concerned, especially the ones that are based here, because, you know, they're sharing the water and the air and everything that we're sharing as well.
And they're very upset, especially when we're blasting nuclear bombs off and shaking their heavens, you might say.
But they're extremely concerned.
And that's why you're seeing a lot of these plasma ships right now, because they're coming out and they're looking at the surface dwellers, and they're keeping a very close eye on what we're doing to the environment and to each other as well.
No, actually, that was taken with Sony, a really nice Sony camera.
It was pretty high up, and so that's a blow-up of it.
But now, the problem with these ships that you're going to see over and over again, even on my site where I have a lot of ships that look very similar to the O'Hare ships, is that they have an energy field around them.
And they're very, very hard to photograph because of the ionization field around the ship.
And to get a very clear photo of a ship, usually it needs to be parked.
Anything that is very, very bright against a very dark background and is far away, and you've got to zoom in, you're going to end up with just exactly what you've got right here.
And, you know, at the last conference, we had people just shooting out in the field, and they didn't see anything.
When they got their film back, you know, they had the ships showing up on the film.
So a lot of times they can actually make themselves invisible to our, you know, we can only see so much of the visible light spectrum, and a lot of times they're just outside of that.
And he has seen UFO after UFO after UFO, just about every type you can imagine.
He is in contact with, in quotes, them.
Now, there are a lot of people who are very skeptical about all of this.
What makes James, in my mind, different from so many others is that he has invited person after person after person, trained people, trained observers, people of science, to his ranch.
You know, I think it'd be awesome, Art, to do one of your experiments.
I know you hate those.
But, you know, if the whole collective consciousness just focused a very loving, joyous thought out there and put the call out that, you know, we do want to make contact.
We do want help with our planet, you know, to help clean up the environment and to bring these new technologies in.
And if they put pressure somehow on the government to stop shooting at them and create a peaceful avenue of exchange, we'd have some pretty amazing things happen here on the planet.
If we had an original deal with them, in other words, take some citizens, do your experiments, share the technology with us, where did all that go down the tubes?
If that's no longer the deal, we're not getting the technology, and they're no longer taking people, and we're certainly not getting reports of abductions to speak of, then where did the deal go wrong?
Well, from my understanding, I'm not an expert in the abduction end of it and the Black Project and all the hidden bases and everything that's going on, but I'm aware of them, and they do exist.
But obviously, there was some kind of a skirmish.
I've heard quite a few stories about it from very high officials.
And I guess they took a lot more than was expected, and the experiments were going a little beyond what they expected.
And so I guess there was some kind of disagreement and a major breaking away of that deal.
With me, I don't, I always say just because you're dead doesn't mean you're enlightened, or just because you're an alien doesn't mean you're enlightened.
And it's important to realize this, that, you know, not all aliens really came here with our highest and best good in mind.
But that whole arena is being phased out right now.
And the ones that are coming in now are the ones that have pretty much put a stop to that.
So it's time now to start, you know, keep your discernment, but let's start greeting these beings in peace and, you know, see what they have to offer.
So you're convinced, you began the program by saying so, that a disclosure is going to come from the sky, that suddenly these sightings, even though they're increasing right now, will, what, go exponentially higher?
They actually have not done anything yet that I'm aware of.
I mean, you can't really point to anything and say, well, all right, They cleaned this up or they stopped that or they other than perhaps toying with our nuclear facilities as well as the Russians, I don't think you can point to anything they've done just yet, can you?
Well, in Chernobyl, there's a lot of engineers that they interviewed there in Chernobyl, and they said that there was a ship that came over Chernobyl, and their, what do you call the Geiger counters were just going off the scale, and this thing sent two or three beams down into the reactor, and then their Geiger counters dropped significantly.
And so something intervened there in Chernobyl, and it wasn't as disastrous as it could have been.
No, I've got that from, I can dig that up for me, but it was sent to me by an investigator that went there and he interviewed some of the scientists there that were working on it.
All I know is that the guy interviewed, you know, he took names and he interviewed the people down there and he interviewed some of the main scientists that were there on site.
And I'm sure you could probably Google it and find it, or I could dig it up again and bring it up.
They can render radiation inert and do all kinds of things.
But the problem is that we have to gain the wisdom from our experiences.
And until we learn to stop playing with this nonsense, and there's other fuelless technologies, we don't even need these reactors.
We don't even need oil right now.
And it's been around for quite some time.
And I've actually held this in my hand.
I know these things exist.
Well, a device that is about as big as a small pipe pan that has nine coils, and each coil puts out 25,000 watts, and it's ice-cold when it runs.
But the physicist that created it had his lab burned, his family threatened, and it's on the shelf right now.
But there's quite a few coming out.
I mean, just basically splitting water, you know, and the hydrogen, burning the hydrogen and oxygen is those technologies are going to come out in force right now.
You know, it's very interesting that you would mention that, James.
Earlier today, I was talking to a 767 pilot whose name I will not mention, but he told me that there's a man in the Philippines that's quite well known, and there are others around the planet right now that are actually running automobiles on water.
There's some new type of electrolysis process separating the hydrogen extremely efficiently and then running cars on water.
And I know that sounds like, well, I don't know what it sounds like.
They have it set up so it runs on your car, splits the water on demand.
And that technology has been around for a while, but it's been suppressed, you know, like the other technologies.
You know, even the electric cars, if you put one of these other devices on an electric car, you could drive the wheels off it.
But, you know, if we want to get a little more unlimited, you don't even need wheels because these devices, when you rev them up, they become countergravity.
Well, you know, Gene Maloff, I think he, you know, was going to testify before Congress about all these new technologies, and they found him bludgeoned to death in his home right before he could do it.
So there's a lot of people out there that there's one or two ways it goes.
Either they buy it and shelve it, and you never hear about it from these people again, or they get two options.
They disappear, and their families disappear with them.
So those are the two options right now.
And we really don't have any legislation or anybody that's going to watch over these people or provide the security necessary to get these technologies out.
I know you can't have giant mobs descending on you, but what do you do when people send you email, phone you, whatever they do to get in contact with you and say, look, I want the experience.
And when somebody comes by and they really have the goods and they really can go interdimensional and bring out a lot more of the truth, you might say, there's just a lot of jealousy and a lot of problems that come out from that.
I would say much more of that than the positive, you might say.
Lately it's changed, though, because a lot of the things we're doing were way ahead of their time and people are catching up now.
So there's a lot more support in this.
And what's sad is that the majority of the people are really good people.
Anywhere, wherever you go, but when you move up the echelon into the higher levels or the other people that have a gig that they have going, you know, and they want to focus mainly on nuts and bolts or on abductions or they want to make everything evil, all those groups, they get very upset when you step on their toes and you say, look, there's a lot more going on.
You know, I gave a talk at the International UFO Congress there in Laughlin, Nevada, and that was one of the subjects I brought up.
And I told everybody, I said, nobody has the whole pie here.
We all have a piece of the pie, and we're never going to get to the bottom of this until we put the whole pie out on the table and learn to cooperate and get along.
And I got a standing ovation there, you know, just by saying that because people are tired of it.
People are saying, look, how are we going to get along with these beings that are so much different than we are, and we can't even get along with each other?
And it's very sad when you think about it because, you know, like the photos I've put on your site, some beings look like we do.
And then if you scroll down a little bit, you'll see another being there that has a robe and his face looks pretty bizarre looking, and he's a very ancient one, very wise.
And, you know, these beings step out of these plasma fields, they're interdimensional beings for contact.
And, you know, most people would see them and would run because they can't sense the energy coming from them.
They can't sense that they are extremely wise and loving and very powerful beings.
So until we learn to accept, you know, differences that there are not just different colored beings on this planet, there's different colored beings on other planets.
Maybe it'll enlighten you with respect to the flack you're getting, and that is, I don't participate in newsgroups, and the reason I don't is because they always start out with the very best of intentions.
No matter what the subject is, it doesn't matter.
They start out so well.
But inevitably, as time goes on, and this is an absolute golden rule, it's just never broken.
I don't care how good the topic is for the newsgroup, it degenerates into personal attacks until finally whoever's running the newsgroup can't stand it anymore, then throws somebody off, or throws several people off who are perceived to be causing trouble.
And then, of course, that causes a fight because somebody says, well, that's censorship, and you can't do that.
Well, the person did it because they finally couldn't stand it anymore.
And this just happens always, James.
So when you get to a topic like ufology, which is already difficult, you're going to get that times 10.
I wonder if we could safely engage perhaps millions of minds and produce a vision in the sky.
I wonder if we would target a city or we'd just go for the whole U.S. It's really something to think about, isn't it?
If intent is what drives them, in quotes, and or brings them, then we could sure produce a lot of intent with just one more experiment, couldn't we?
I'm trying to sit here and imagine how it could go wrong and reasons why we ought not do it.
But if it's just to produce a mass sighting, then maybe.
We'll be back in a moment.
All right, let's play with the idea a little bit.
James, if we decided to do an experiment, if we decided to attempt to engage perhaps millions of minds toward producing a really big event in the sky, would you target a specific area?
Would you just send out a sort of a general message of intent that we're ready for a big show?
Or how would you do it?
I'm curious.
If we were to do such a thing, how would you want it done?
You know, definitely I do if people went out there and just meditated and went out and had some clear skies and just put the intent out there that, you know, send as loving thought as you can and put it out there and just say, you know, help.
One of the things that we have to realize is, first of all, A, there's nothing we can do about them because they're so far advanced.
You know, even our military, they know that.
There's nothing we can do about it.
And B, if they wanted to do something about us, they would have done it so long ago because they've been around since thousands and thousands of years.
They're in the frescoes.
They're in rock paintings.
There's legends that go back.
I mean, what, 400,000 years or so?
So, you know, the Chinese talk about them.
They're in every culture, you might say.
The ancient Egyptians talked about them.
The Tibetans talk about them.
In the Vedic scriptures, they talk about the ships and the different types of ships.
You know, we have to rise to the occasion if we're going to join the rest of the universe.
And if there was a collective consciousness that was trying to rise to the occasion, was initiating this, I'm sure that you would see a definite quickening in what is happening on the planet as far as the assistance to get us Through these times we're moving into.
Yeah, well, the downside is that a lot of newscasters would have egg on their face, and a lot of military people would go, damn, now we have to tell them the truth.
That would be if our government has been hiding all of this, and in fact, if at any point the government cooperated with them and allowed them to take citizens randomly and experiment on them, the repercussions of that would be politically horrible, James, just absolutely horrible.
But, you know, hopefully we've evolved far enough to where, you know, we can greet this with a little higher consciousness and civility and, you know, not be so primitive this time.
I'm going to allow a little time to pass, a day or so.
I want to get some emails.
I want some.
There's a lot of good intellects out there, and it's been a long time since I've done one of these experiments.
And if it could go wrong, I want to know how before I do it.
So, folks, I am actively considering this.
I really am, because not only James, but Stephen Greer, others who have had frequent contacts with UFOs, who have actually almost produced UFOs on demand for witnesses, good, reliable witnesses.
It's all in intent.
And what are our experiments if not intent?
So I would like to know, anybody willing to email me on the downside of this and the reason why I ought not do it, do it now or forever hold your peace.
I'm Art Bell at MindSpring.com or Art Bell at AOL.com.
So James, I may give this a shot.
And I don't do it lightly.
So we'll see what happens.
I'm going to want to report from you and, of course, reports from everybody else as well.
But if they're really out there in force, and I guess you're convinced there are many, many craft.
You know, the governments around the world are very well aware of it.
And a lot of radar is, you know, the, I don't know what you'd call it, footage or the reports or radar are being released right now where they have followed these now.
Also, too, the majority of these ships, the higher ships, are stealth, and there's no way we would even know they were there.
Nothing shows up on radar, and they'll just be parked right there.
So a lot of times there are no radar reports to coincide with undeniable sightings.
And it's because of their technologies.
They can take their ships and move them out of any frequency so nothing would be able to grab onto them or just move right through them.
I think the first thing to do is just to settle down, settle down in your consciousness and just think of the most loving, joyous, blissful thought you can generate, even if it's an old experience or a memory.
And then kind of attach that to the intent of wanting to contact.
And it's very important that the mind in which you seek is the mind in which you're going to connect.
So if you have a lot of fear and a lot of religious training where you think everything's demonic or the devil or everything, then I wouldn't even participate in this experiment.
I've had a number of fast blasts about that, and there is that, James.
In other words, you have contact.
You have a lot of things that you've produced, a lot of witnesses, but how do you know, in the end, James, how do you know that what's contacting you and what you're seeing is not demonic?
Well, mainly because I've had extensive training in this arena, and actually I've had extensive training in clearing any unseen negative influences, you know, which includes any kind of astral beings and what you call the shadow people, you know, and things of that nature.
I've had many, many years of training in how to both sense that and clear that.
And so just due to the overall training and working with lamas and yogis and other masters and more, even Christian-oriented people are moving in that direction.
You know, I think Billy Graham calls them God's other angels.
And Catholic Church now is saying these are not to be demonized.
You know, this is just the greater family of man.
And it gives, you know, better credence to the magnificence of God, you know, of the Creator, that, you know, creation extends far beyond the earth.
So most of the religious factions, other than some of the, you know, we have fanatics not just, you know, in the Muslim countries, but we have them right here in good old America as well.
And there's not too much you can do about that because, you know, they're seeking the devil.
They're seeking the negative.
And that's, you know, I tell them, they said, how do I know?
You know, they'll ask me, how do we know you're not working with the devil?
And I said, well, the devil's not even in my mind.
You're focused on the devil, you know, constantly.
Probably almost immediately you'd start to see things.
You'd start getting all kinds of emails from people that, you know, mainly if people walked outside the clear skies and did this and put the intent out and just looked up in the sky for something anomalous to either power up or flash at them or start moving, you know, and it may come as close as you're ready to have the experience.
You know, they'll scan you and say, well, this person's ready.
You'll start having almost immediate call-ins.
Just doing what we're doing right now with this going out to, I don't know, what, 15 million listeners, people are already thinking about this.
And they're learning that, hey, there's a greater family of man out there that loves us, that wants us to get through these times, that's here to help us.
Just knowing this is making that a possibility.
It's giving them the reference points to start thinking about this and looking up and start trying to experience this greater family of man.
And that alone is going to help generate this reality.
What I'm going to ask people to do is when we break here at the top of the hour, if you're able to go outside, that's fine.
If the weather's nice and you feel like stepping out on your porch or stepping out into your yard and taking a look at the sky, that's fine.
But what I really want everybody to do, beginning at the top of the hour and until we get back, is turn your radio off at the top of the hour.
It'll take us, what, about nine minutes, eight, nine minutes to get back, and that's long enough.
I'd like everybody to just sit back, relax, clear your mind.
As James said, perhaps contemplate an experience in your life that was joyous, that was happy.
One of the happiest moments in your life.
That'll be fun anyway.
It's always kind of fun to sit back and relax yourself, remembering something that brought joy to you.
Perhaps the day you had a child or the day you got married or whatever joyous occasion happened to you.
Contemplate that so you're in a good mood.
And then for as many minutes as you're able, combine that with a intent, a directed intent to them, whoever they are, to show themselves in our skies.
We'll leave it at that.
Show themselves in our skies.
And if you want to go outside, there's going to be millions of other people doing this with you, folks.
So if they're reactive, and certainly there's every reason to believe that intent is what does the trick, then we should be able to produce craft in our skies.
Now, when I say our skies, that means the world's skies.
It may, in your case, mean the skies directly over you or near you.
So let's give it a try.
It's a Saturday night.
People should be in a good mood.
And we have millions of people who can direct intent, very strong intent.
And that means closing your eyes, getting in the mood I described, and then combining it with a very, very strong invitation to show themselves in our skies.
It's worth a try.
Let's see what happens.
So we'll do that.
Coming up at the top of the hour, James, there's an experiment for you, buddy.
So I want you to relax, get yourself in a great mood.
If you're able to be outside safely.
If not, where you are is just fine.
You want to produce, remember, some joy in your life, get in a really good mood, and then blast out all the intent you've got inside you for them to show themselves in our skies.
I will be participating with you.
From the high desert, invitations going out right now.
I'm Art Bell.
Well, I surprised myself.
I didn't think I'd do another experiment, but I did my part during the break, and I hope you did too.
We'll see how it goes over the next day or so, the next few days.
I expect there will be some giant sighting somewhere, if not in several areas.
We're in the middle of a pretty good time for it anyway, but that much intent has got to produce something.
We'll see.
It may come.
We have no way of knowing timelines, whether they really want to do it or not, but we certainly gave them the intent.
And for those of you that participated with me, thank you.
Don't stop.
Keep it up.
In the next hour or so, just keep blasting away intent, simply for them to show themselves.
And as James mentioned, get in as good a mood as you can.
I called up, you know what I called up?
It's kind of interesting, actually.
One of the joyous moments that I had in my life was the very brief but joyous OBE I had in Paris.
And so I kind of called that to mind, remembered as much of it as I could, and sort of combined that with an intent to see something in our skies, for something to appear in our skies.
And I hope you will do the very same, and we'll take a look in the next couple of days and see what happens.
In a moment, we're going to open the lines for James Gilliland and see what you have to say.
I'm Art Bell.
Frankly, this was just too good to not do.
I've had so many guests who have said that the appearance of these craft appears to be connected with intent.
And as you know, intent is something that has fascinated me.
Mass consciousness has fascinated me now for years.
So we're going to watch the next couple of days very carefully.
I'm already getting fast blasts that, well, I don't know what you make out of them.
Helen in Kaiser, Oregon said, overcast, but I went outside, and yes, a round light was circling around the sky above my house.
Happy to be part of it.
Barry in Vancouver.
Intent experiment.
Two craft sighted over Vancouver, B.C. at 1.05 a.m.
Bright white lights moving north to south, 20 degrees above the eastern sky, and many more like that.
But I don't know, James.
We'll have to see what comes of it.
We'll watch the next couple of days very, very carefully and see what happens.
But we've got some really good footage of these ships, and people are trying to say that they're not satellites, that they're three satellites tethered together.
But what we've seen here, there's no way it could be because it turned around and went back the other way.
Listen, John and Lisa, and they give their last name in Sailorsburg, Pennsylvania.
Say, my wife and I are regular listeners.
We took part in your experiment.
We went outside, and we saw two lights in the sky, just incredible.
These are big white lights.
Glad to be a part of this.
Now, these are beginning to flood in.
And I only get samples, but I wonder what we've done here.
Interesting.
All right.
I believe it's Solomon in Vancouver, B.C. Oh, Vancouver.
You're on with James.
unidentified
How are you doing, Art and James?
As a matter of fact, I'm standing outside involved in the experiment, and I know that it's valid because three weeks ago, I had a major vision that people all over the world were looking skywards, and there was all type of apparitions and UFO phenomenon taking place, but it had to do with the second coming of the sacred heart of Jesus Christ.
And I believe that very, very firmly.
Also, Art, I was on with you about three or four weeks ago, and I had made the prediction that your wife was going to have a baby girl.
And listen, and then two or three weeks later, I heard you on the air talking about the ultrasound, and congratulations on the young lady.
A question I wanted to ask James.
James, I've had contact since I was three years old.
I've had contact with at least two dozen different type of species.
Three nights ago, here in Vancouver, as I'm standing outside, after I finished my meditation, intuitively I was told to come outside, and this beautiful white lotus light appeared over English Bay heading towards Vancouver.
And I was listening to Art when he said just a few minutes ago, the individual had fast blasted him from Vancouver.
Well, kind of like the Roswell stuff, that sort of thing has a way of disappearing.
This experiment is not over yet.
We're going to try the same thing at the bottom of the hour, and then we're going to watch the next few days ahead of us.
Not only tonight, but the next few days ahead, and we're going to see what happens.
And what I'm asking is that as many of you who listen to me, and as many of you who believe that there really is something to all of this, and that intent really does mean something, and I believe that it does, I surely believe that, I want you at the bottom of the hour to do as you did at the top of the hour and just blast out intent to show themselves in our sky.
Now, getting in a good mood and remembering a great time in your life, putting yourself in an excellent mood is a good idea.
But most of all, I want you to blast out intent to show themselves in our skies, and we'll see what happens.
Michael in Norfolk, Virginia, you're on the air with James.
unidentified
Yes, thank you.
I'm against this for the following reason.
I don't think a reasonable person puts out a message on the Internet telling strangers to stop by his house and fill his living room and his bedrooms and so forth.
And in the same sense, this is our earthly home, our planetary home.
And to put out on the Internet of the universe an unspecific invitation to whoever's out there to come on in and make themselves at home is very, very unwise.
And I'll tell you, there's another aspect to this.
We are told in history that there is one man in history who has demonstrated himself as a mediator between earthlings and heavenly beings, and he is the Messiah of Israel.
And if we want intervention, we should ask for that intervention to come in his name, through him and by him, and not by any other.
And I don't, you know, I don't know if it can ask him if, you know, like a falling star or a shooting star or something like that could actually be, you know, could have been a UFO.
It sounds like he saw just a little bit more than Shauna, but Shauna verifies what he saw.
So let's get him back on the line and get ready because we're going to continue.
Hi there.
All right.
So you apparently saw the first part of this, or in other words, there was enough time for you to call your wife and she saw the same thing or what?
unidentified
The initial thing I saw was huge up in the sky, like it could have been a planet or something.
And I flashed my light at it twice and hollered at her, and within three or four seconds, that bluish-colored plasma ball shot right over the top of our heads.
And the property we own is about 800 feet above the valley surrounding.
All right, we're coming on another break right now.
So here's what I want everybody to do.
We're not done.
This is one of our serious experiments.
It's been years since I've done one.
Please take a moment, remember a joyous moment in your life, and then combine it with all the intent you've got in your mind and soul for something to show itself in our skies.
And if you want, go take a look.
Intent is focused energy, and we're sending it out right now.
With millions of you hanging on it, I'm Art Bell.
Here I am.
Well, the reports I'm getting are amazing enough now.
We'll have to wait and see.
This is the power of intent is something that we have that is separate from all else.
It's separate from governments.
It's separate from the power they have.
It's separate from, well, everything.
It is a power unto itself, and I firmly believe that it's real.
Focused intent for something to show in our skies.
We'll watch the next few days very carefully, but the reports coming in are amazing now.
Yes, I did get one.
Let's see.
I saw one here.
Yeah, here it is.
They want Dave in Moore, Oklahoma, wants me to report that he saw nothing.
But that's one out of about 50 so far.
You know, only so many of these fast blasts can come through.
But there, Dave, I reported that for you.
For everybody else, we'll see how it goes as time goes on.
It's been a lot of years since I've done one of these experiments, and it's not over yet.
James Gilliland, back with you and the phones in a moment.
Well, James, here's somebody calling us loons.
The both of us, actually.
You're a loon, and I'm a close second.
Well, I've got a feeling that we're going to produce some results here.
I don't know if they're going to happen right away, as some of many of these past blasts would indicate, or if it'll be in the next couple of days.
My experience with these experiments previously was that in an hour or two, generally it started to produce results.
Now, we'll see.
Let's go back to the phones.
And first time caller line, Robert in Stockton, California.
You're on with James.
unidentified
Hi, James.
Hi, Art.
First, I wanted to say, Art, I commend you for doing this experiment.
I've been praying for a long time that you would do this very experiment.
And yes, us New Agey people, we do believe in the teachings of Jesus.
Anyway, I have an experience.
Last September, my wife, Charlotte, and I stayed at James' place.
The problem, Robert, is that as we discussed earlier, taking a photograph of a light, no matter how impressive it is to your eye, is never transformed well to a camera.
I mean, you're taking a picture of a light against a very dark black velvet sky, basically, to the camera.
You're absolutely right.
unidentified
The only thing that I could say to that, Art, is that I don't care what anybody thinks.
It was the experience that I took home, that I felt that something connected with me.
It felt my intention, and it tried to communicate back with me.
And people can naysay all they want.
I have that for my own.
And my wife saw it herself with her very eyes.
And I can't recommend this ranch more.
James was a wonderful host.
This was a great place to stay.
If people are in doubt, they need to go visit.
Take the opportunity.
You know, Seth Shostak from SETI.
Go to the ranch.
Have a look for yourself.
If you devote your life to researching UFOs, this should be the first place you should go.
Robert, I would love nothing more than to send Seth to the ranch.
But you probably have to take him shackled.
He doesn't really want to look into that sort of thing.
And that's why, yes, this experiment makes sense to me.
After all, all the experiments I did way back when were intent involved before it became fashionable to do so.
And so many people like James tell me over and over and over again that it is intent.
And even when you go out with a flashlight or a laser or something else and shine it back at these things, and then they react in some way, that too is intent.
It's just a little more active, that's all.
So we're not done yet.
At the end of the program, I'm going to ask everybody to once again spend several minutes in intense concentration trying to get something to appear in our skies.
And you can't, and there's no way that will be taken away from that person as I had my very, very close-up sighting.
People can doubt all they want.
I know what I saw.
Vince in Seattle, Washington.
You're on with James.
unidentified
Art, it's a pleasure.
Number one, I'd like to say something to Art and then ask a question of James.
Art, number one, I would like to see this experiment done again, but I would hope that you could do a live remote on a Saturday and Sunday night at the sanctuary and have people actually focus their attention on the sanctuary itself to see what might happen.
I would think that would be very, very interesting.
The question I have, though, James, is that I know that you'll be going with Brooks on this expedition to the North Pole later this year in September, October, I understand.
Tracy in Minnesota, you're on with James Gilliland.
Hi.
unidentified
Hi.
Hi, Art.
This is a definite honor.
First of all, I just want to let you know that I did go outside, and it's really foggy out here in Minnesota, and so I was like, oh, I'm probably not going to see much.
But what I did notice, and I don't, I mean, it wasn't anything very, very definite, but it was like bright sprinkles in my peripheral.
And it was kind of weird because I thought it was the snow, but it was way, way up, and it was just like it kept blinking.
And so I don't know.
I don't know.
But I do have a question for James.
Yes.
Okay, you mentioned really early on in the interview about somebody getting beamed with a light in their chest area.
Well, I had a dream about a month ago, and I've never, ever, ever had any dreams about any UFOs or any type of alien type of dreams.
And I just found that this was, it was vivid, it was real, but it was me and a bunch of people, and we were underneath this UFO, and it was hovering, and I was watching everybody line up to go position themselves under some sort of area for them to get beamed.
And this light just went right in the chest, and it would bring them to their knees.
And then when it was my turn to get this beam of light in my chest, I had felt this telepathic message.
I didn't hear words, but it was telepathic, and it was just like, we don't need to give it to you.
You already have it inside you.
And I was just baffled.
I just wanted to know if you have anything to say about that.
I don't think it had a connection with the plasma ships because they're extremely benevolent beings.
Some of them that are on these golden ships come from Orion.
It's like an Orion Council of Light.
And J.J. Hurtak talks quite a bit about those.
They're in the Bible as well.
They talk about the Orion and Pleiades systems.
So, you know, going back to one of the other callers, you know, they assume that we're not connected, you know, to God or Jesus or the other masters, but it's all connected.
And we need to drop this division, you know, and start thinking in unity consciousness, not this polarity consciousness that we're working under.
But, you know, I really don't see any connection other than some faulty equipment with the shuttle and possibly, who knows, something else might have happened on that.
But I know one thing is that one of the shuttles was taking up a secret military payload.
There have been a lot of cloud-type sightings that are pretty weird.
And I've seen some pretty strange clouds myself.
You had a couple of questions?
unidentified
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Well, just quickly, if these aliens are so benevolent, and if they're able to intervene and you think they would prevent a nuclear exchange, why have they let so many nuclear experiments go on so that these missile silos are even developed?
If they can intervene to dismantle them, why do they even let the test and that kind of thing go on in the first place?
I think the main thing is that they can't interfere with our evolutionary process.
And there are certain places where they can intervene to help us to continue to evolve.
But some of the things we have to gain the wisdom through experience, they can't come in and just do everything for us.
We have to clean up our consciousness and learn from some of the mistakes we make.
So it's a very fine line on how much rope they're going to give us because we're pretty much at the end of the rope right now where we're very close to destroying our environment.
We're very close to moving into a nuclear war.
I mean, things are a mess down here, and we've pushed it to the limit.
So I think that's why they're coming right now because we've just pretty much hit the limit of how far we can go.
And listen, everybody, let's do it again right now.
As the program ends, remember a good time in your life, a joyous time in your life, and then attach to it a very strong intent for them to show themselves in our skies.