Art Bell announces his surprise move to the Philippines with Irene Ruiz Bell, a teacher from remote Bukidon, after meeting through an amateur radio friend amid grief over his late wife Ramona’s death. He’ll broadcast Coast to Coast AM via ISDN from Manila, darkening his home to match U.S. nighttime, while selling his Nevada property—including rare cars, ham gear like an SX77 amp, and firearms. Shifting focus, Bell and Ghost Investigators Society’s Brendan Cook and Barbara McBeath explore EVPs, noting 70% of captured voices are contemporary, with condenser mics improving clarity despite distortions resembling hearing loss. They discuss unresolved spirits—like a woman’s unexplained laugh in a mausoleum or children’s distressed cries near a prostitution site—suggesting lingering trauma or incomplete acceptance of death. A caller’s seven-year-old ghostly woman and Dawson’s unnoticed tape laughter hint at persistent, unacknowledged entities, while theories on child spirits’ earthbound nature underscore the eerie, unresolved implications of EVP recordings. [Automatically generated summary]
You may recall that before I left on my change of scenery venue, I mentioned to you that I was going east.
I think that was the only hint I gave.
I said I was going east.
What I didn't say was how far east I was going.
Actually, I was going, I went to the Far East, as in the Philippines.
That's where I've been, ladies and gentlemen, for the last three weeks.
I've been in the Philippines.
Now, let's go back a little bit, all right?
Back to the beginning of January, January 5th, when my dear wife Ramona passed away.
I got, I think, thanks to all of you so much, I believe I got in the order of, I don't know, almost 20,000 condolence messages.
I'd say about 20,000 by the time it was over, and it's really still not over.
About 20,000.
However, I began within a few days, I began to get a condolence message from a young Filipino gal at my private, my private email address, not either one of my public ones, and I won't give you the address, but a public, rather a private email address.
And to tell you the truth, I was in such shock, you know, I really was in a state of nothing short of shock that I responded to it as I did many others, but I didn't give it any consideration beyond that at first.
This is such a wild story.
Anyway, a few more messages went back and forth.
She seemed like a very nice young lady.
And again, in the first, I don't know, six or eight messages that went back and forth in email between us, I was in such shock that I didn't think to ask a couple of rather what should have been very obvious questions.
Why is a young Filipino lady, why is a young Filipino lady writing to me?
How would she know that my wife had passed away?
Moreover, how would she know my private email address?
So I was in pretty bad shape.
And the first thing I thought, honest to God, folks, I thought Ramona was acting from above and that she was sending me a young 20-something to kill me.
You know, Ramona was half Filipino.
You know that, right?
Anyway, I really did think that for a little while because it was so impossible.
Then, then I thought, no, you know, Julie, Ramona's mom, knew how bad my shape was at that time.
And of course, you know, Filipinos know each other.
Oh, believe me, they all sort of know each other.
They're very close families, but that's another whole story.
And so I thought, well, sure, it's coming somehow from somebody that Julie knows, Ramona's mom in the Philippines, would make sense.
And then I finally threw up my hands, and I guess I gathered enough of my senses to write back to this young lady, whose name, by the way, is in my way of thinking, Aaron.
It's A-I-R-Y-N, Aaron.
But actually, correctly pronounced, as it would be read by Filipino, would be Irene.
But A-I-R-Y-N to me sounds like Erin.
So I call her Erin.
But really, really, her name's Irene.
Now, the emails got a little more personal and a little more interesting and fun.
And the emails then turned into video conferences.
Erin and I began having two or three hour video conferences virtually every day.
And this is pretty personal stuff.
In fact, I'll tell you, after you have talked to somebody for two or three hours and seen their picture in a video conference, which can be done across the world for two or three hours every day, you get to know more about them than I think the average couple, which usually jumps in bed with each other and then tries to find out about the other person afterwards, will ever know.
Still, you know, I still had not physically met Aaron, but I was quickly falling in love.
There's simply no question about it.
Now, who's Erin?
Well, Erin is a 20-something, beautiful, wonderful, light of my life.
But what I really want to tell you is she's a teacher.
She just graduated from college.
In fact, while I was in the Philippines, I attended her graduation.
One of the photographs you'll see there is of her graduation.
In fact, you'll see her mom and her dad.
And her dad is a very stern guy.
He's a farmer.
She is from the provinces.
I guess I should, I don't know.
I'm trying to get this all Together.
There's so much to tell you about.
When I say the provinces, I mean not Manila.
She's from.
Actually, I spent most of my time in Minanawa, in Caguan, a city called Caguan.
And I'm sure I'm slaughtering the pronunciation of Caguan, but I'm doing my best.
Sometime on Luzon in Manila, but most of it on Minanawa, the northern part of Minanawa.
Caguan is the city, if you want to look it up on a map.
And she's actually from a little town called Bukidon.
It's called Bukidan.
And that's where she's from.
And to get to Bukidon, you have to first fly to Minanawa, go to Caguan, and then take a vehicle on about a three to four hour drive.
And then the last, I don't know, 30 minutes is a very kind of serious dirt road.
And so I made that trek.
Anyway, back to the story of how we met.
I finally, I wrote to her and I said, listen, how did you know my wife passed away?
And how did you know to write me at this address?
And the answer came quickly.
It was an amateur radio friend of mine, a ham radio friend of mine, somebody I've known now for years.
And I am going to not mention his name because here's what happened.
You see, he had been engaged to Aaron's sister, Sharon, for quite some time.
And when he heard that my wife passed, he kind of knew the bad shape I was in.
He apparently asked Sharon to ask her sister Aaron to just write to me because, well, keep me company, whatever.
And so that's how it began of all things.
So the moment I found out, I picked up the phone and I called this friend of mine in the middle part of the country and I said, what the heck?
Or some variation thereof.
And so that's how it happened.
Now, after hundreds and hundreds of hours in video conferences, I was pretty well convinced that I had just become the luckiest man in the world.
And nevertheless, there's, you know, there's the last sort of I've got to go meet her in person kind of deal.
And so that's where the trip to the Philippines came in.
As a matter of fact, I paid my friend's way over to the Philippines, and there was a double wedding.
Now, I couldn't be happier.
I love her very much.
Oh, by the way, if you would like to go to coasttocoastam.com and look very carefully, you'll see, I think I put up six or eight pictures, mostly of Erin, some of the both of us, and all of these pictures came from the recent trip.
In fact, you will see a picture of her, as I mentioned, at graduation with her mom and her dad there, and then you'll see some of the wedding, and you will see her in her wedding dress.
And oh my God, is she beautiful?
Most beautiful woman I've ever seen in my life.
And we are so in love.
So, you know, I know many people will think many things, but remember, folks, it's my life.
And I told you that I was going to do something and turn my life upside down.
You see, most or many Filipino girls want to come to the United States.
Erin doesn't.
And luckily, I would like to live there.
So I'm going to pick up sticks, folks, and for a year and maybe, maybe forever, move to the Philippines.
I know this is coming as a big shock to you, but that's what's happening.
This guy is taking off to the Philippines.
And I'll give you some of my private thoughts about this in a moment, yet.
But I would like you to know that I've got a really good company.
You know, this company, Clear Channel, that I work for, Craig Kitchen is the president of it.
Now, he's known about this for some time.
Otherwise, it's been a deep, dark secret because until it really happened, I didn't want to tell anybody.
So Craig Kitchen has been incredible and just wonderful throughout this.
And all I will tell you on this score is I have begun to acquire a residence for Aaron and myself in an area that should allow, I'm convinced it will allow, an ISDN connection.
And so my company, Clear Channel, I mean, this really is cool stuff, folks.
They're going to attempt to put together what's called an ISDN connection between Manila, which is where I'll be, somewhere in Manila, that's a city of about 20 million or so.
Between Manila and the United States.
And so, and so, I will continue to do my program.
There may be a week or two lag in getting in the ISDN line, but I'm leaving here on going back to the Philippines, back to my love, on April 29th.
So there could be, you know, getting the residents prepared.
So there could be a week or two gap.
I'm not exactly sure yet.
It won't be very long.
They have to get some equipment over there.
And I will do the show from Manila.
Now, my webcam photos are going to be pretty Interesting.
Because I'll tell you this much.
Aaron and I are on the 19th floor of a building in Manila.
Now, from the 19th floor, my goodness, you can mount a webcam and pretty much see the skyline of Makati and Metro Manila.
So I should have some pretty interesting photographs for you.
There's a whole lot going on in my life right now, as you can imagine.
Again, if you want to see pictures of Aaron and myself and what was going on, www.coastocoastam.com.
Now, let me see.
There are so many things that I have to talk about.
Through this all, I guess I ought to add, of course, was Ramona.
And I talked to her all the time, and I kept telling her, Ramona, if there's anything, if this is wrong for me, if you wouldn't want me to do this, if I'm making a mistake, kick me in the ass.
Well, she never did.
And she would have.
Anyway, she would have loved Aaron.
She certainly would have loved Aaron.
And instead of things going wrong, things went boom, boom, boom, boom, just right.
Never anything going wrong.
It could not have been better.
Both in the magical way that we met and then as we got to the Philippines, it was everything I dreamed it could be and more.
And then, of course, the final decision, and I could spend a half hour talking to you about marrying a Filipino, believe me, what a wedding is like there.
They take about three hours.
I would say three hours.
And there were probably about 100 people there.
And it was probably about 100 degrees.
And you get under a veil and there's a cord put around you.
And the ceremony just goes on and on and on and on.
There's no divorce in the Philippines.
They don't have it.
It's a predominantly Catholic country with a very small percentage of Muslims and mostly Catholic.
And so their government, unlike ours, where we have sort of a separation between church and state, their government is run by Catholics.
I mean, there's simply no question about it.
And so there is no divorce there, which is fine by me.
So I'm very happy.
I think the photographs will tell this story.
You can see, obviously, Aaron is really happy.
I'm really happy.
And I've never been the kind of person to, I don't know, be afraid of any damn thing in the world.
So I'm not.
So I hope while I'm speaking, you have a chance, an opportunity to go up and take a look at the photographs.
I know this is quite shocking to many of you because for me, this has been ongoing for months now.
For all of you, you're just hearing about it, seeing it for the first time right now.
But I guess what you ought to know, and what is most important, is I am so very much in love, so very happy.
And when was the last time anybody did a talk show from the Philippines anyway?
So my company is so cool.
I mean, they are way cool to get behind me and the whole concept, the whole idea of doing a show from the Philippines.
By the way, doing it there will mean with the hour change, let's see, I'd be doing it at about 1 o'clock in the afternoon.
So what we're going to have to do is darken down the residence we have and make it look just like night.
So I can be in the mood, you know, so it's just like night time.
It's going to be fun.
It's really good.
As a matter of fact, the whole thing is going to be fun.
And I'm going to be back there very quickly.
I told her I wouldn't leave her alone for a moment, and I will not.
Now, listen, I've got a whole, you know, I'm not sure what I'm going to do yet in terms of what I'm going to do with everything.
For example, I've got five acres and two homes here of about equal size.
I mean, just a luxury home that doesn't get any better than what I've got, in my opinion.
Five acres of land in a very private area with an RV and the biggest ham antenna of its kind.
Now, if the right amateur radio operator came along, the right ham radio operator and wanted all of this, I've got a racquetball court, solar power, and there's just more things here than I could possibly ever describe.
If the right amateur radio operator, ham operator, came along, I might sell the whole Shmir to him.
I just might.
Or I might keep the houses.
I'm not sure yet, but one thing's for sure.
I am going to have a lot of stuff for sale.
And I will take the opportunity to use my own program to actually mention some of this stuff.
And if anybody's interested, I'll give a phone number.
So get a, not a phone number, but actually a fax number.
Hell, I think I've got it.
Yes, I do.
Thank goodness.
And I'll provide a fax number.
I'll just mention some of these things.
And so if anybody out there is particularly interested, you can fax a number I'm going to give.
But anyway, the bottom line to this first half hour is I have met in the most unusual, magical way you can imagine, the most beautiful girl in the world who, yes, is 20-something.
And we fell very much in love and we got married.
So there's a big shocker for you.
And then to pile on top of that, I'm going to become an expat.
And I'm going to do This radio program on the weekends from Manila in the Philippines, where it's a different day every day.
Go to the one I love, and the one I love is Irene Ruiz Bell.
If you want to see her, she's on the internet right now at coastcoastam.com.
Lots of good photographs up there.
All taken on my recent journey to the Philippines.
And that's where I'll be doing the program from the Philippines, unbelievably.
Now, I will take some calls this hour.
I've got just one thing I want to cover with you in a moment.
I mean, April 29th away to the Philippines and my love.
Now, I'm going to sell a bunch of stuff.
There's no point in keeping it.
You know, it occurred to me that, you know, for example, vehicles and things like that, they're just going to devalue, sit here, which they pretty much did anyway.
I mean, all my vehicles are just about new because I kept them in a garage and used a little Geometro.
So what I've got is a 99 Camaro, perfect condition, 98 Firebird Transam that'll kick butt.
I've got a 99 Geometro in perfect condition, an older Geometro.
All those can go.
You know, I've got a SX77 amp, an alpha amp, an alpha 99, an alpha 87A amp.
They can probably go if I find the right buyers.
I've got a couple of 42-inch plasma TVs.
I've got a 2000-model RV bounder with every option known to man.
Sony recorders, high-def stuff.
You know, the house is just full of stuff.
And so I've got a bunch of guns, too.
Anybody who wants to buy guns?
Anyway, look, what I'm going to do is give out a phone number.
They hate it when you take guns.
You can actually take guns on an airline, but they don't like it.
Although it's something to think about.
Anyway, anybody interested, seriously interested, and maybe buying the whole properties out here, the five acres and the whole schmear of the antennas, or some part thereof, well, I'm going to give you a fax number.
Now, this is not a way to contact me for anything else.
Only if you're interested in some of this stuff.
The fax number is Area Code 775-582-1310.
That's area code 775-582-1310.
There's not really much point in just letting cars, you know, slowly devalue themselves, I suppose.
Somebody should be driving them.
They're awesome vehicles.
So I'm going to give my friend here, Paul, power of attorney, and he'll be able to handle it for me.
And this is really his fax number.
So good luck, Paul.
Again, if you're interested and think you might be in any of these items, it's area code 775-582-1310.
That is only a fax number, and it's only for these items.
I actually have somebody living in my guest house and taking care of the house and the cats right now.
Oh, that's another thing.
The ham radio operator who I paid to, you know, I wanted to help him out, so I paid his way to the Philippines and back.
And he married Aaron's sister, Sharon.
He took Shadow.
He wanted Shadow, so Shadow is now on her way to the middle part of the country in a large vehicle, probably having a blast, probably meowing like crazy.
So I now have four cats, and I'm looking for good homes for them.
I may try and take one or even two, maybe, to the Philippines, but I don't really know exactly what the situation is with respect to how long they'd have to be in quarantine, whether I want to put them through that.
So that's the situation.
Bottom line, in love, married, moving to the other side of the world, and that is where I will do the program.
Now, look, folks, I'm 60 years old.
I lost my wife.
I would say try and put yourself in my shoes when you consider whether you think I made the right decision or not.
Not that it really matters, but I'd like you to understand at this age.
I have met and fallen in love with a beautiful young lady who's very much in love with me.
We're married.
And I guess I would have had two paths that I could have taken.
I could have stayed here, of course, with my five kitty cats, and I love them to death.
You know that.
And lived out my life that way.
Or I could choose to flip my life upside down.
I'm famous for it.
I've done it lots of times before and just change everything.
And that's exactly what I have done.
Let's go to the lines.
Wildcard line, good morning.
You are on the air.
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Art to see when your fireworks, buddy, in Columbus, Georgia, buddy.
Well, I lost bite several years ago, and so I don't have that ability, which is why your program is, I listen to it now because everything's radio for me now.
And I was just worried about your cats, but I know that that's going to be taken care of because I have a feeling that Ramona's pulling for them too as well.
What I've done is I've found a new manager, and I've got a person lined up to take care of the technical aspects of the radio station, so KNYE will continue without missing a beat.
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Well, I mean, the big, it's just a big shock here.
So if I had not come along, she would have gone into the mountains.
That's where it begins over there.
She would have been far, way, far away in the mountains in Minanoa, and she would have been teaching there.
Now I have just retired her, so to speak.
All right, on to business now.
Look, what you're about to hear is scary, scary stuff.
Many people believe, and I'm one of them, that when people die, they don't just end.
We are energy.
We are electrical impulses.
We have souls.
We don't just die.
Something else happens to us.
We can debate until the cows Come home, what that is.
But there's one really big thing, you know, pictures, I don't know, I've seen a few good ones, but this EVP, Electronic Voice Phenomena, just totally tips me over.
From the work of George Meeks and those who came before him, Alexander Graham Bell, others who believed that communication with those on the other side was possible.
And then, of course, the incredible Meeks' work.
You know, I listened to all of the Meeks' work, and they were communicating with a man who was telling them how to improve communications.
It was incredible.
Then we've got this group that you're about to hear from, Brendan Cook and Barbara Macbeth, represent the Ghost Investigators Society, GIS.
They're non-profit.
They don't write books.
They don't ask for money.
All they do is take recorders, both analog and digital, into unusual places and they record the voices of those who have passed.
Specifically, Brendan Cook and Barbara Macbeth both are members of the Ghost Investigators Society.
The Ghost Investigators Society is a non-profit organization dedicated to the investigation of ghosts.
Not only do they conduct investigations, but they also instruct, assist, and educate anyone who believes that they may be experiencing ghostly phenomena or those who are just simply curious.
In an effort to educate the public about ghosts, the GIS hopes the EVPs that you're about to hear will help demonstrate that the consciousness, our consciousness, does in fact survive after the body dies, and that these voices might help to give a different perspective about life, death, and ghosts.
Now, I can't stress enough that the reason I keep having them back is because, as far as I can see, they have no agenda save what I just described.
And by no means are they the first ones to come along and do this.
You've got to stay good and close to the phone for us all.
Okay.
Now, you know, the open-eyed here, I really mean that.
You know, I've been looking into this whole thing now for so many years, and, you know, nailing down whether or not there's life after death is, well, you just, you almost don't nail it down.
That's all there is to it.
But this comes, in my opinion, as close as you can come to nailing it down and saying, look, this is real.
Well, what we do is record using, oh, I mean, everything from analog tapes to digital to something we'll get into in a minute that I'm sure you're going to love.
Well, here's the deal: a condenser mic is famously more sensitive.
Oh, yes.
Very much more sensitive.
So it would make sense, Brendan, if what you're actually recording really is an audible sound as opposed to being impressed on some sort of electromagnetic media.
And like I said, it comes from using the condenser mic.
think just hearing these voices and how much audio information is in these ones that we did record with the condenser mic, it just, I mean, it's amazing.
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You're going to be amazed at the clarity of the What finally caused you to switch over and give it a try?
You guys, even though you say all the time that you can get these voices virtually anywhere, you say that still, I mean, I notice you go to graveyards, prisons, old psychiatric facilities, that sort of thing.
Also, we've dealt with this now in the years that we've been doing this program with you, and that is the disproportionately large number of children's voices that we hear.
But I almost wonder if it's if they are able to go back in memory almost like you mean adult spirits going back into their own childhood reliving something bad that took place at that time.
Because, I mean, let's face it, your theory has merit because of those people in this world who die every day, and there are many, 40,000, 50, 60, whatever, who die every day, most of them, the great majority of them, are not children.
I mean, obviously, some children die, but more than not, people get to live out a fairly, reasonably full life, right?
So you just wouldn't expect the percentage of children that you get otherwise.
Well there was an instance where I was standing next to the camera when I had my tape recorder and the EVP that I recorded on the camera was better and clearer than the one on my audio recorder.
These are unusual things, and we don't understand them, but they really aren't scary, although I understand people do get scared of things they don't understand.
I think that was quite clear, even though the echo was definitely there.
That's really weird.
The fact that the echo is there is really weird.
That does almost nail it down, doesn't it?
That it's an actual audible imprint that we're getting.
Now, they've gone to condenser mics, which are famously more sensitive than other types they have used in the past.
So you will hear, again, I think they're right.
I'm getting warm.
Now, there is always the question of whether they heard I'm really warm.
And, you know, they just told you essentially what to hear.
And so that's what you hear.
Your brain, of course, tries to make sense out of something that apparently does not make sense.
That's what we do with it.
Our brains do that.
If I were to show you a picture of some random clouds, if you sat there and looked at it long enough, you would say, well, gee, that looks like a rabbit.
Well, it works the same way with audio.
If it is suggested to you that you will hear something, you hear it.
Again, see if you hear, I'm getting, or rather, I'm really warm.
Another question for those who might want to venture out and try this for themselves, how many hours of recording time do you have to do generally, typically, on an average, to get an EVP?
If you're at an investigation for two hours, when we come home, there's another two hours to listen to the audio and another two hours to review the Videotape.
You know, you have to eat and have a roof over your head and then be able to purchase equipment on the, you know, you've mentioned this, I don't know how many times on your show.
I mean, it definitely changes the way you think because all of a sudden you realize, well, there is something else.
There's something else out there.
As far as religion goes, I mean, I haven't heard enough, especially regarding EVP, that would justify me saying, well, you know, there is whatever religion out there.
I mean, I certainly haven't heard any voices referring to Jesus or, you know, Muhammad.
I believe myself that people that, when they pass on and if they don't go to where they should be going and they stay around here and interact with the living, I think that they would be very sad.
But, I mean, for the spirits on the other side, there can't be a great deal of satisfaction, and there should be a lot of frustration in trying to communicate with the living because they, for the most part, can't do it.
They can come along and occasionally scare the hell out of us.
Well, you know, it seems to me, and I just, of course, see this as a mortal would see it, but if you're on the other side and you're able to observe human beings going on about their daily lives and you're either haunting or trying to get a message through and you're being frustrated and you're unhappy about that, I don't know, you'd try.
For example, if you're one of these spirits and you run into somebody like yourselves who are actually trying to hear this, you would make an extra effort.
You would say, finally, here's somebody who's trying to hear me.
And I think that leads to a lot of the EVP that we record.
And we've also noticed, it seems like that when we go back to a location over and over again, that it's almost like they realize that we're there doing this.
So it seems like we pick up more EVP than we had, you know, the two times prior that we had been there.
Yeah, that's why I asked you about the longer-term thing.
I guess I'm really asking is, have you ever observed anybody being there, being there, being there, and then suddenly being gone as if graduation time had arrived and they had moved on?
And I do want to mention these next two voices, the echo is gone.
The voices themselves are a little low, but we put them on to show that this is the kind of thing we can pick up with a condenser mic where a digital recorder, an analog tape recorder, anything else would not have picked up these voices at all.
I think that it takes quite a bit of power for them to even manifest the slightest voice.
And if you listen to these, some of them almost sound like if you've ever heard somebody that's hearing impaired try to speak, that's how it sounds.
And it's almost like either they can't hear themselves as they're talking or using noise in the atmosphere to create a voice, or it just takes so much power they can't do it.
In this clip, you're going to hear me see, or you're going to hear me say, see, mainly what I'm doing here with the photographs now is just photographs to document the way the place looks.
And then the owner of the building says, yeah.
And then you hear what sounds like a kid say, push it with that one.
We never allow anyone under the age of 18 with us.
If we're investigating a house that has children, before we come to the location, we'll actually ask the parents to have the kids stay with the grandparents or somewhere else.
You're going to have a lot of luck if you take some good software and a computer and you filter out what has now become the ambient amplifier noise of the condenser mic.
If you filter that out, it's going to get scary clear.
Well, I think you've made the right move with the condenser mic.
You've proven something, number one.
Number two, they will be much more audible.
But number three, believe me, when you start messing around with eliminating the frequencies that are not contained in the voice, it's really going to get clear.
And we have been, you know, ever since we actually posted all those recordings on the website, we have been contacted by numerous people who are trying to build or rebuild the machine now.
And they've promised as soon as they do and start trying to make contact, they'll send us the recording.
Not many EVPs, but there are a lot of cases of hauntings where they see an apparition walk through a wall or just walk through a room, and then they go look at the plans of the building and realize, well, there was a doorway where that wall was 60 years ago.
And it's almost like the entity is seeing what it was like when they were alive and not the way the location looks now.
I also heard that reported a dance floor at a hotel in, I think it was in Hollywood, where they redid the floor and it was up a couple of inches higher than what the original floor was.
And the ghost of a man has been repeatedly witnessed.
And after the floor was done, they can't see his feet.
Since I replayed number seven, they might learn something, was unintelligible, I thought, the first time, and I obviously thought the same thing the second time.
Now, what we just heard, number eight, which I'll do again right here, is quite clear and does sound like come up with me.
So what you're going to hear is not a looped thing, which we do for clarity, so you can hear it several times normally, but it's going to be just repeated six times?
All right, now this one, you're going to hear me say, all right, what I'll do is set this down in here and we'll move it.
Actually, before we do this, let's stop this, save the file, and start all over again.
I'm just talking about the condenser mic file that we were using.
This, again, was recorded with a digital recorder, not the condenser mic.
And you're going to hear the owner say, okay, and then a woman comes in, and to me, I can't understand the first part of what she says, but she ends with what sounds like every lover.
My guess is some in the audience will take these recordings and do the filtering work themselves.
And what we're going to get at the end of that, it'll be fun to compare that to the old digital method, which, you know, didn't have the amplification, but it did have the clarity.
I mean, come on, let's face it, it's not going to get better and quieter, signal-to-noise-wise, than digital.
It's just the addition of the new mic.
On the one hand, good.
We've proven something.
On the other hand, it picks up a lot of external stuff that mixes with it.
So, I don't know.
If you're doing judgment on, we'll get a lot of feedback from the audience and see if they feel the same way, whether you should go back to digital or simply go to filtering and clean it up that way.
So I'm with you guys on the experimentation, but I do think you've proven something very important, that it's actually audible.
Do you suppose it's audible only very close to the microphone in question?
I mean, so close to the microphone that it's barely there.
You know, that's really the interesting thing, because we record voices that sound like, you know, they're yards and yards away, as opposed to our voices being right next to the microphone.
So, I mean, it's so hard to tell, but like you mentioned before, it does sound like there's some kind of distance involved with them speaking and what we hear.
A lot of these have been very good, and I am convinced, I really honestly am convinced, that when we finally get going here and we get filtering done, this is going to be totally awesome.
It's going to be just an amazing thing to behold.
So you all make judgment.
Send me an email.
Send them an email.
You understand, because I do, that what we're hearing is real here.
It's not a radio station, not somebody's CB.
It's not somebody else in the building.
It's not something hokeied up.
It's real.
These are voices from either another dimension, the other side.
We really don't know, and my guests don't know.
We're really not sure.
There's no way to be sure yet.
But it's real.
What you're hearing is real.
Make of it what you will.
It's the real McCoy.
That much I guarantee.
We'll be right back.
Back we are.
And again, worth mentioning, you know, argue as we will about the technical aspects of this, the bigger picture is what you've got to keep in mind.
What I think I heard, and I could be totally wrong, is I think I heard an increased stress or intonation in the voice in the second or third looped recording.
And I don't know how you can, I don't know if I can accept, for example, as you said earlier, that it's somebody earlier, you know, projecting earlier in their life or something.
And, you know, we started asking her, you know, hey, we're getting these kids' voices.
You know, is there any reason that you can think of that there would have been children here?
And she had found out that some of the good old boys that live around there, that have been around for years and years, had said that in the early days of that building, there were rumors of child prostitution downstairs.
You hear, particularly when you do the loops with the increased gain, you pick up whatever it was in the background running ever so much more, and that really clobbers the Voice, but easily changed.
Now, this one, you're going to hear me whistling, and I do this because the mic is stationary, so I'm basically letting the recording know I'm coming up to the mic.
I want you all to be able to answer a few questions from the audience because I know, I mean, people listen to this and they, how could you not have questions?
That sounds like a very young child, which is very troubling.
In fact, tonight has been chockful, as Barbara said it would be, with children's voices.
The last on number, I'll tell you, I'm not going to be getting over what was it, that young child a little while ago, or maybe even this one for a while is just almost too much.
You know, I'd like to hear from some in the audience, some of you, about what you think we're hearing.
These are children.
I mean, can there be any question about the fact that these are children's voices, troubling children's voices?
So fire me an email and let me know what you all think.
I mean, what does it say about the other side or the other dimension or whatever in the heck we're hearing?
Do you guys have favorite thoughts about what realm we're hearing, whether it's another dimension, whether it's simply a, you know, it just goes caught here, as you've mentioned before, or it's, you know, spirits of people who were or whether these are perhaps spirits that never were alive?
And, you know, I guess in my mind, we adults have had plenty of time to go around sinning and probably get in trouble that might keep us here or, you know, even send us down.
Who knows?
But I mean, children, of all things, and so many of them, it's so troubling to hear so many children's voices.
They ought not, they should go straight to heaven without passing go.
I mean, they've said a lot of, you know, I go back to a voice that we played on your show, I think, the last time, that it was a man saying, I will kill you bastards.
Hey, I wanted to ask them, have they ever thought about putting, you know, taking the voices and interpreting them really interesting to the concept of the information that was gathered about a certain place, like the children's voices.
That was all in one spot, right?
Yes.
I mean, that was all concepted to the prostitution.
And that was my question.
And for a comment, the one about love, I kind of heard about the sound, it sounded like that, my husband is the best lover, something to that effect.
Hey, caller, what do you think we're hearing here?
unidentified
Well, really, I'm not really quite sure what it is.
I mean, I believe in it and stuff.
I believe in the other side.
Now, to me, it sounds like, in my perspective, that these voices are being recorded at a level that we can't hear it, but the electronics will hear it.
And it's communication saying, hey, please help me, you know, like an unrested soul.
Like a haunting.
Once their soul is rested, you find out who killed them or why they died or something like that.
And their soul can rest and cross to the other side.
He says again, because, you know, many believe that those who commit suicide don't ascend and or meet with the loved ones they wish to meet with on the other side.
East of the Rockies.
Hi, you're on the air with GIS.
Good morning.
unidentified
Hi, my name is Tracy.
I'm calling from New York, and I would like to say congratulations, Art.
Thank you.
And I have one question.
Okay, now you said you can do it yourself earlier.
Now, do you need a regular tape recorder, or is it like a special type of machine you go by to just go hear these voices?
We have had the occasion to record what we believe is a, it was a close friend of my husband's and mine who committed suicide, and we went to their house, the house where he committed suicide.
His wife and family were having haunting problems after that.
If you're hearing it out loud, then you're going to get some really, really, really good EVPs, and you can send them on to Brendan Cook and Barbara Macbeth on their website, ghostpicks.com.
I was wondering if anybody has ever heard of, like, they look if a little kid has died and they have grown who, like, what when they have, after they've died.
Look, the reason they say use a blank tape is obvious.
A lot of times when an erase head hits a tape, it doesn't completely erase what was on it.
So you have the obvious risk of having something like that, particularly with a telephone answering machine that's probably been recorded over five million times.
From what I know, when a person dies, say it's like a really traumatic death, they are more likely to stay as either ghosts or like earthbound spirits.
I mean, children don't seem to have this concept of mortality.
I mean, they really, especially if you look at what sounds like the ages of the children that we record, they're young enough that they really wouldn't understand death.
I mean, they don't understand that, you know, you go to sleep and you're not going to wake up.
And a lot of people have got to be left scratching their heads going, well, it really does seem like there is something to this.
Your website is ghostpickspix.com, right?
And they can hear these and many, many others and also give you feedback and get in touch with you and all the rest of that and even get recommendations on how to do this for themselves.