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April 16, 2006 - Art Bell

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art bell ▲ ● ▼		What I said last night just rocked a lot of people right down to their very bones.
		Sorry about that.
		That's just the way it goes sometimes.
		I'm definitely a risk-taker.
		And I've done this before in my life.
		Many of you must remember, or should remember, from my book or things I've said on the radio, that I lived on the island of Okinawa, very similar climate for ten years, so this is not exactly alien to me.
		In addition, I've made decisions like this in my life before.
		It's just one of those things, and that's just me.
		Always expect the unexpected from me.
		I expect the unexpected from me.
		Now, a lot of people have asked about my kitty cats, and believe me, it's a gigantic issue.
		What I'm going to do is I'm going to attempt to take Yeti and Abydos with me to the Philippines.
		Now, there's all kinds of opinions about quarantines, whether they have them or not.
		Some say thirty days.
		Others say Nada.
		Now I have all the up to date shot records and everything, but we'll see.
		So I'll try and take Yeti and Abydos.
		In the case of Shadow, she is, of course, with my now brother in law.
		Dusty and Comet, I've got to find new homes for Dusty and Comet.
		Comet, of course, is a wild one, but he's now gentle as a lamb.
		Although shy, Dusty is the most beautiful cat in the whole world.
		So I've got to find homes for those two, and then two I shall I shall take to the other side of the world.
		Let's briefly look at world news what there is of it.
		Not good news from Iraq never is.
		Efforts to form a unity government suffered a big setback Sunday when Iraqi leaders postponed a parliament session after failing to agree on a prime minister.
		Bombs, of course, targeted Shiites near a mosque, and as well on a bus, as attacks nationwide killed thirty five people.
		Four more Marines dead in fighting West Baghdad, bringing the U.S. death toll for this month to 47 compared to 31 for all of March.
		Iran's former president accused the United States Sunday of waging a psychological war against Tehran, said that American strikes against Islamic republics would not be in Washington's best interests.
		Former Iranian President Rosenjani, who heads the Expediency Council, I like that name.
		The Expedience Council.
		A very powerful body that mediates between Iran's parliament and clerical hierarchy, and yes, that would be quite powerful.
		They said that Western nations' attempts to block Iran's nuclear program were in quotes unjust.
		An announcement that police made an arrest in the disappearance of teenager Natalie Holloway, this is a big one, left many islanders wondering Sunday who exactly the suspect is now.
		And whether the arrest marked a real actual breakthrough in the almost year old case, Arubian authorities would only say late Saturday that the person arrested is 19 years of age and has the initials GVC.
		In Aruba, when an arrest is announced, officials usually release only a suspect's initials.
		That's interesting.
		I'm a little hoarse.
		I may be getting a cold.
		I've had two 14 hour plane flights recently, looking forward to more, and so I may be getting a cold.
		I'm a little hoarse because I've been talking on the phone all day long, as you might suspect after what I announced last night.
		In Oklahoma, the man accused of killing a ten-year-old neighbor girl for an elaborate plan he had some elaborate plan to eat human flesh.
		He joked about cannibalism, apparently, on his online diary, discussing the effects of not taking his antidepression medication and mentioned dangerously weird fantasies.
		All he wanted in life, said Kevin Ray Underwood in his blog, was to be able to live like a normal person.
		Well, Kevin, most of us don't fantasize about eating human flesh.
		Two registered sex offenders fatally shot in their central Maine home early Sunday, and a Canadian man sought in connection with the slayings apparently shot himself.
		Kyle MacDonald has a red paper clip and a dream.
		Could he use the community power of the internet to barter that paper clip for something better?
		A trade, for a trade, for a trade, you know, and so on and so forth until finally he would end up with a house.
		So you start with the paper clip, you end up with a house, and so on.
		Anyway, after a cross continental trading trek involving a fish shaped pen, a town named Yank, and the Web's astonishing ability to bestow celebrity, apparently MacDonald is getting closer.
		He's now up to one year's free rent on a house in Phoenix.
		Isn't the Web wonderful?
		We'll be right back.
		In the next hour, Major Ed Dames, the world's foremost remote viewing teacher, and indeed a remote viewer himself.
		I want to get a lot of calls in this hour.
		Unscreened, letter-ripped kind of calls, so we'll get to that in a moment.
		I want to make note of this.
		Dear Art, it's an email.
		You need to go back to the March 12th interview with Evelyn Paglini and listen to hour two.
		I just did the podcast, and it blew me away.
		The accuracies in her dire predictions.
		I'm amazed by the things that she was foreseeing.
		They're already coming to fruition.
		She talked about floods in California, levees breaking, and the governor declaring states of emergency repeatedly.
	She was predicting civil unrest.
	We're certainly Seeing that, she mentioned terrible tornadoes and storms already going on, huge hurricanes for the upcoming season.
	All I can say is, wow, she's amazing.
	Yes, I don't know how many people have been keeping track of Evelyn's predictions over the last several shows, but she's been spot on, as they say.
	I thought this an amazing story.
	You might have already heard it, but it's absolutely amazing.
	From the crest of the Cascades to the Puget Sound, where people in the Pacific Northwest can expect to experience changes driven by global warming.
	Well, it's not amazing.
	The next story is amazing.
	This one is just a sort of a warning, I guess, of what's going to happen.
	Expect more winter flooding, more summer water shortages, more destructive wildfires, more troubled salmon runs on average, shorter ski seasons.
	Not all bad, though.
	Maybe some of you will not have to chain up going over the pass, you know, so frequently.
	Won't be as cold on average in the winter.
	Many years you'd be able to get away with starting your spring garden earlier.
	So there's an upside to global warming in the short run for some people.
	But I would have a big caution about these kinds of stories about how, you know, in some slightly cooler climates, it's going to get nicer.
	Well, maybe, but the overall change is not necessarily a good thing for the poles where we have lots of snow presently and won't soon.
	This one is amazing.
	Missouri Teen survives Ride in Tornado Every time a late-night freight train thunders past, mister Souter, that's his name, wakes up, remembers the vicious twister that pulled him from his home March 12th, then somehow, incredibly, landed him in a pasture about a quarter mile away.
	Souter's harrowing encounter had brought him sudden fame with national news media coverage.
	One tornado expert said he knew of no one who has traveled as far as Souter did in a tornado and lived to tell about it save Dorothy.
	It's a pretty awkward record to have, he said.
	He doesn't really like any of the publicity at all.
	On the night of the tornado, he said he was watching TV news in his boxer shorts.
	He heard a jet-like roar approaching the trailer.
	He shared with his grandmother and uncle his concern.
	He was trying to shut a window in the living room.
	His grandmother was in the kitchen.
	This tornado apparently struck.
	The window broke.
	Door got sucked out.
	I looked at my grandmother.
	The walls were like jello.
	The trailer rolling back and forth.
	I jumped between the coffee table and couch.
	And I remember the trailer tipping.
	His grandmother, Linda Kelly, said Souter had hollered at her in the trailer, and when she came into the kitchen, quote, I turned around to look at where he was, and that whole end of the trailer was simply gone.
	A large heavy glass lamp struck Souter on the top of his head, knocked him unconscious.
	When he came to, he was in a grass pasture.
	Global positioning satellites used by the National Weather Service measured the distance at 1,307 feet from the trailer site.
	He said, when I woke up in the field, I didn't know how long I had been lying there.
	I probably thought he was dead.
	He ran finally in bare feet on a gravel road to the residence of a neighbor, reported what had happened, said the storm blew him out into the field.
	Didn't know if his grandma and uncle were alive at the time.
	The neighbor called 9-11.
	Ambulances responded.
	He apparently suffered a cut on his head that required five staples.
	His feet were badly bruised from running on the gravel, and he still limps from the pain.
	But his doctor said his lack of serious injuries indeed rule out any other possibility other than his account.
	In other words, he was picked up by this tornado and then apparently somewhat, somewhat gently deposited on the ground a quarter of a mile away.
	So say the fictional Dorothy, I think that would certainly be the record.
	And he doesn't really want it.
	I can understand that.
	But can you imagine being picked up by a tornado and then more or less gently deposited on the ground?
	That's absolutely amazing.
	As are many things in life.
	You know, that was the one thing that the coroner impressed upon me after my late wife, Ramona, died.
	He said, life is short.
	He really, really impressed that upon me.
	And actually had a little list that he had made up.
	And life is very short, ladies and gentlemen.
	So if my example of pulling up stakes and turning my life upside down does anything at all, I hope it will encourage some of you who are tempted to crawl under a rock or sort of stop living to not do that and instead move forward and create a new chapter in your life, as I have done.
	And I've done this many times in my life.
	I'm a risk-taker.
	You only live once, and as the coroner said, life is really short.
	So I hope some of you who are out there sort of on the cusp of a decision, you know, a life-altering decision, yes, you have to think it over well and thoroughly and be sure of what you're doing, which, by the way, I am, completely sure.
	But don't be afraid of change.
	Too many people are afraid to simply, I don't know, turn around the direction of their life, whatever direction it's in, and completely do something else.
	First time caller line, I think you're on air.
	Hello.
unidentified		Aloha, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ha ha ha.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hey, buddy.
unidentified		Hey, how you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm just fine.
unidentified		That's great.
		My name is Ray.
		I'm a truck driver from East Texas here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I had a feeling you might be in a truck.
unidentified		Yes, sir.
		Just wanted to congratulate you and everything.
		Let you know that I, too, am engaged to a beautiful Filipino lady from Cagayan Dioro.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Actually, I can never say it right.
		It's Caguan Dioro City.
		The Spanish actually added the Dioro part, but I've never been able to quite pronounce it correctly.
		Maybe you've got it right.
unidentified		Well, I'm not sure.
unidentified		I mean, that's just how I've heard it pronounced before, you know, so I'm just that's the way I'm doing it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's a city of about a half million people.
		Actually, my bride comes from an area, oh, I don't know, about three hours or so from Caguan Dioro City.
		Way the heck out there.
		By the way, I've got another webcam shot.
		I know you probably can't get it in the truck, but I put it up tonight with a waterfall in the background.
		That's one I think you haven't seen yet, folks, if you want to take a look.
		Arts webcam.
unidentified		That'll be great.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Can you stop and see stuff in the truck?
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, let me turn you on.
		You can get a little cell phone that'll plug into a laptop computer, and you could have a cell phone all the way across country.
		You could have data all the way across the country now.
unidentified		Well, I'll be.
unidentified		I didn't know that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You can do it.
unidentified		Well, I spent a couple weeks over there in the Philippines about this same time last year.
unidentified		And I'll tell you, the hardest thing I've ever done in my life was get back on the plane and come back over here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I hear you.
unidentified		So I'm very excited for you.
unidentified		And I know how you feel.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very, very much.
		And take care, sir.
		Yeah, you know, it's a completely trying to explain the culture there, for example, with respect to the age difference, is very, very, very difficult.
		But let's see, how can I put this in a way that some Americans who have not traveled outside the U.S. might be able to understand?
		It's almost like going, particularly for this audience, it's almost like going into another dimension.
		When you step off an airplane on the other side of the world, in the Orient, whether it's Japan or where I used to live, Okinawa or the Philippines or Vietnam or anywhere in Asia, particularly in Asia, if you go to Europe, it's kind of one step away from the U.S. and there's much you'll recognize.
		When you go to Asia, it's a completely new world.
		You might as well be going into another universe.
		And the moment you come off the plane, all of the sights, all of the sounds, the very air itself, the way the air smells, and I don't mean that in any negative sense, it's all different.
		Everything is completely different.
		It's just like walking into another universe.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How you doing?
unidentified		Fine.
		I'm in L.A. God, I saw your pictures last night.
		You look like a happy guy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's because I am.
unidentified		Yeah, well, you really made a big transition.
		They went from hell to fantasy to you're living in paradise right now.
		At least you will be soon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, isn't it strange what life has in store for people?
unidentified		Yeah, a lot of people can learn a lot from what you've done.
		Most people, if you look at statistics, most people who've been in the situation you have, just they sit and everything around them reminds them of their past.
		And they just, you know, after a few years, their health dwindles and then they die.
		And you really are inspiring to a lot of people out there.
		You've actually done what it takes to get away from negativity and put yourself in a positive light.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let me tell you, my friend, you've exactly nailed it.
		Sitting around alone in the house with everything that reminds you of what was and then dwelling on what was without a future is sort of, I don't know, opting for death, opting for the negative.
		And what I'm doing instead is turning everything upside down and starting a new life.
		I've done it before, and so I'm not surprised, at myself, that is to say, that I'm doing it again.
		So you're dead on, spot on.
unidentified		Yeah.
		I've wrote a little essay in college, you know, about the exact same situations that you're in.
		A lot of people, actually, not only in their personal lives and relationships, most people make their jobs their life.
		And once they retire, they die.
		Because you have to make your job your hobby.
		And once you retire, then you could take your hobby, I mean your job, into being a hobby, and you could continue.
		A lot of people just end their lives with, they get attached to their environment and they just dwindle away.
		It's amazing how you made the transition and actually are a survivor in a way.
		You put yourself in a wonderful situation and you're married to an angel.
		She looks like the sweetest person in the world.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		She is.
		She is, sir.
		She is exactly as she looks.
unidentified		Oh, God.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ramona was with me all the way on this, trust me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In fact, her guiding hand was here all the way, more than you can imagine.
unidentified		I was thinking about that.
		I was thinking about, God, you're probably like, you're thinking about communicating with her on your decisions, you know, through your mind, basically.
		When you lose somebody you're close to, too, I've had a girlfriend that passed one.
		You think in your mind what they would think of what you're doing, the things that you're doing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, many people also wrote to me, you know, I've got about 5 million emails.
		I've been trying to go through them, that many times when men lose their wives, come out of very, very good marriages, and man, mine was the best, they tend to remarry very quickly.
		And I guess that's because your experience with marriage was very, very, very good.
		And, of course, the separation from it is gigantic.
		I mean, it's just monstrous.
		So there's a tendency for men who lose their wives like that to remarry fairly quickly.
		So I guess I'm in the majority there.
unidentified		Yeah, it's like almost losing a twin when you're that close, because from what I hear, you guys were with each other all the time.
unidentified		You never separated.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Never, sir.
		Never for a day.
		So trust me when I tell you, and I asked a million times, I think I said it last night, I told Ramona a million times, kick me in the ass if I'm doing the wrong thing here.
		No kicks ever came, quite to the contrary.
		Everything went boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
		And then when I actually went there, it was better than I could have ever hoped for.
unidentified		Oh, God.
unidentified		It's almost like surreal, I'm sure, your life here in a completely different environment.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is.
unidentified		The air, the food, the people, it's almost like you died and went to heaven almost.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's like another dimension.
		And, you know, again, put the capper on this one, you're really right.
		It's a choice of life.
		It's choosing life instead of a road that's eventually just going to lead to a slow erosion.
		It's just one of those choices.
		And that's why I said to people who are on the cusp of a life-altering decision out there, yes, think it over carefully, but don't be afraid to change and make your life better suddenly if that's what you want to do.
		have a good night sir and thank you so It's interesting.
		A lot of people have written and said, well, how can you get rid of all that stuff?
		Well, it's easy.
		It's just stuff, you know?
		Stuff doesn't mean that much.
		And if you don't know that now, then you will as you get older.
		And you certainly will if you suffer a great big loss.
		It's just stuff, albeit real nice stuff.
		I've got a lot of really nice stuff, and some of it is certainly for sale.
		Now, I'm giving a very good friend of mine, Paul, here in town, a power of attorney, and he will sell some of this stuff.
		That's all it is, stuff.
		And as I mentioned last night, if you're interested in stuff, you can give, actually, you can send Paul a fax.
		So what I'm doing is giving out Paul's fax number for that purpose and that purpose only, which is area code 775-582-1310.
		Let me repeat, area code 775-582-1310.
		One last time, assuming you might have run for a pen.
		It's a fax number, and Paul will be handling all this for me.
		Area code 775-582-1310.
		With regard to the properties, again, it's just, yes, it's five beautiful acres here with the biggest amateur radio antenna ever built.
		If a ham were to buy this place, I might be tempted to sell it.
		Otherwise, I'm not in a position where I need to at all, so I may well hang on to it.
		But you know, if a ham operator came along, this location should not remain idle.
		This antenna is killer class.
		Not to mention the 100-foot tower and all the rest of it.
		And, you know, two houses, a main house and a guest house, each equally large.
		So, and racquetball courts, indoor racquetball courts, and solar power.
		And oh my God, there's so much at these residences.
		If a good ham came along, I'd probably sell it to them just and give them a good buy, just because it's a ham radio operator.
		But otherwise, I'll hold on to the properties.
		So no big deal either way.
		All right, back to the lines.
		First time caller line.
		You are on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Good morning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		All right.
unidentified		I've been listening to you since 1995.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Long time.
unidentified		And I've got all your books.
unidentified		And we'll make a long story short, July 4th, 1990, I spent six weeks in the Philippines and almost 24 hours a day with my Chinese-born Filipina.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, congratulations.
unidentified		100%.
unidentified		It'll be 16 years we've been married coming up this July 4th.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, would you like to try and explain to the audience something that is very difficult for me?
		There is such a large difference in our cultures and the way a Filipina thinks than we think.
		Can you explain the difference in culture?
unidentified		Oh, absolutely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let's hear it.
unidentified		First of all, we were not allowed to be alone unchaperoned at any case until after we said I do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Actually, I think it's I will is the tradition in the Philippines.
		Anyway, yes, so there's that.
		It's very strict.
		And of course, the country is mostly Catholic.
		As I said last night, in our country, we separate religion from government.
		And in the Philippines, religion essentially runs government.
unidentified		It sure does.
		Yeah.
		And I finally, a few days before I was ready to leave, I went over and asked my father-in-law, whose primary language is Chinese.
		And I asked my wife to interpret, and then her big brother jumped in and interpreted.
		And I asked for his daughter's hand in marriage.
		And this turned out to be my best friend.
		He's the one that introduced us because he had married her sister a year and a half before.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I see.
unidentified		And when I saw the videotape of their wedding, and I saw this woman who was just so angelic and beautiful and had a heart as big as the moon and loves me more than a thousand women could love me, I said, this is the woman for me.
unidentified		I just hope she'll take me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm glad she did, sir, and I'm happy for you.
		It is, and I guess we didn't get into it enough, but there is just a gigantic, it's as though you're going, the only way I can think to put it is it's like you're going into another dimension, and I just don't mean the senses now.
		But in terms of the cultural differences, they're very drastic.
		Filipinos are very close family-wise.
		Family is everything.
		When you marry a Filipina, you really marry the family.
		Do a little reading.
		There's really no way in short moments or even longer moments to explain it all.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hey, Art, how you doing?
		I want to congratulate you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		and i have a few questions and i'm disappointed you're getting rid of those I can't take five cats to the Philippines.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Can you take two?
		I'm going to take two.
		I'm going to take a Yeti and Abydos.
		Yep.
		And, of course, Shadow's already gone with my new brother-in-law.
		And as for the other two, Comet is going to be rough to find a home for.
		So it's somebody, you know, he's wild.
		I mean, there's a limit.
		I'm going to a condo kind of situation.
unidentified		Oh, you're not going to...
		Because I said, he's so used to living in the country.
		What's he going to do?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I may do that eventually, but I'm going to begin with a condo for a lot of practical reasons.
		One, having to do with communication, because I want to keep doing this radio program.
		So I'm in a communication center in the Manila area.
unidentified		Can you tell us what the personalities are like of the people over all the years of Mel de Marcos and all those?
unidentified		I mean, if there's a disagreement, there's a disagreement.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		You know, I can try.
		This is what I've been trying to do is impart to you the cultural differences, and it's not easy.
		You can do some reading on the net and sort of catch up on it, but it's very drastically different.
		They still have bridges.
		I went sailing under the Marcos Bridge, for example.
		And while he was a dictator, many people in the Philippines still feel that Marcos was an okay guy, and not everything he did was bad.
		He created a great deal of infrastructure.
		For those of you who are cell phone fanatics, they're actually ahead of us over there.
		They've got G3 deployed all over the country.
		Even in the most remote province you could go to, way out in the middle of nowhere, you've got G3 technology.
		And I guess they've done that because they sort of waited and deployed all their technology a little later than we did.
		We put a lot of copper up.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		How are you doing?
		And congratulations.
		Thank you.
		Actually, I was on the phone to the Philippines when you announced.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're kidding.
unidentified		No, I have a lady over there.
		And I'm going to butcher this, okay?
		Batan City.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		You think you know, okay, it's around Davao.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's on the Vale.
		In the Davao area, okay.
		That's the one area that I have not yet been to, but I hear it's beautiful.
unidentified		Well, it's on the other side of the island up towards Manila.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But I was on the phone to her, and I heard, you know, I would just be I think Davao is actually south, isn't it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Even further south.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Than Minanawa.
		Yeah.
		My geographic knowledge of the area is somewhat limited, but I think Davao was the most southern of the major islands.
unidentified		Yes, it is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The Philippines is made up of over 7,000 islands.
unidentified		7,100, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There you go.
unidentified		But I was on the phone to her, and I heard you announce that you went to the Philippines, and I was in the middle of speaking to her, and I just stopped.
		And she's like, well, what's wrong?
		And I said, you've got to listen to this.
		So I put the phone up to the radio, and as you was announcing it, she's like, oh, that's great.
		That's lovely.
		You've got to call him and tell him congratulations.
		And I'm like, well, he runs a major radio program.
		You can't just call him up, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you just did.
unidentified		Well, that's true.
unidentified		I told her that by force of will, I was going to get a hold of you this year.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		By force of will, you have done so.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		But she says, congratulations, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		And hopefully in December, I'm going to be following in your footsteps.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
		Well, maybe we'll cross paths.
		Who knows?
unidentified		But I just wanted to wish you congratulations, and I hope everything works out good for you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good luck to you, my friend.
		Take care, and thank you very much for the call.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
unidentified		This is Blair in Sedona, Arizona.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hey there.
unidentified		Hey, listen, you're going to miss the dry heat, though.
unidentified		You've got a little humidity going back there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A little?
unidentified		My only connection to the Philippines was a leading petty officer in the Navy, DK Juan Culon.
		What a sweetheart.
		He took me over to his family and fed me and stuff, and he protected me from the executive officer.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		God bless him.
unidentified		But, you know, without movement, there's death, and you're moving on.
		And if I may wax poetic before I make my little statement here, you know, the struggle between the flesh and the spirit is really non-existent.
		If you think of the flesh needs the spirit in order to move, and the spirit needs the flesh in order to understand and learn to grow here on the planet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I guess that's fair.
unidentified		Yeah, but listen, I wanted to reiterate, I made a prediction on your show on New Year's Eve about losing communication temporarily with satellites disappearing.
unidentified		It's going to happen, I think, between May 15th and May 17th, maybe even May 16th.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you think this will be due to what?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Some sort of solar activity?
unidentified		Solar activities.
		And I think Dr. McCanney talked about some comet fragments coming back, you know, coming through here.
		But also, we've got a big mess up there.
		I think pretty soon we're going to have to organize our, you know, putting up our satellites and stuff because we might just have some basic collisions.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you're right about that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is trash alley up there.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And it's not the kind of deal where you can get a bunch of inmates out picking up space junk.
unidentified		Yeah, but I think it's going to come back and we might have a little more appreciation for our communication.
		Maybe a few hours and stuff and the landlines will pick up.
		But then hopefully it'll be back up for when you do your show from the Philippines, you know?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I sure hope so, sir.
		Thank you.
		We're not going to be necessarily dependent on satellite, although that might be one way we'll go.
		It looks like it'll be ISDN from the Manila area back to Los Angeles.
		And then, I mean, contemplating how all of this happens, the magic of radio anyway is just amazing to me.
		Always has been.
		It has never worn off.
		Radio is simply magical.
		The voice, the theater of the mind, the fact that it's through the air, the magic of that has never, ever changed for me since the first moment I realized what radio was.
		And I mean, more than just the technical aspect of it, but the fact that a voice travels through the air, through the night, to you from any side or any place.
		Rush is famous, I think, for saying it doesn't matter where I am.
		And he's certainly right about that.
		It absolutely doesn't.
		I simply am taking it out to the limit of that statement.
		First time caller line, you're on air.
unidentified		Yes, just wanted to congratulate you on the Tolpians.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		I was there, my fiancé lives there now, and we're just almost getting her paperwork done.
unidentified		Everything was cleared in the States, so we should be getting her over here in about three months.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you see, I chose to go the other way.
		My bride just doesn't care about coming here, and I care about going there, so it's worked out quite well.
		Thank you.
unidentified		I really admire what you're doing.
		It's a really cool place.
		There's no place like the Philippines anywhere.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's absolutely beautiful.
unidentified		It really is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's why I suggested that everybody, thank you very much.
		And congrats.
		Take a look at the webcam shot I've got up tonight.
		It's like that.
		All over.
		It's the most amazing place you've ever seen.
		Wildcard Line, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Hey, how's it going?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hey, it's going fine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Turn your radio off, please.
unidentified		Sorry about that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's quite all right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I surprise people.
unidentified		My name is Chris.
unidentified		I'm calling from Lakewood, Washington.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		And I just wanted to share a story about my animal that I had for about nine years.
		Right.
		It was a dog.
		It was my very first animal.
		A guy when I was nine years old.
		I'm 19 right now.
		I've been listening to your show for about a year now.
		I mean, I've been working as a security guard for almost a year.
		And I stumbled upon it one night when I was doing my rounds.
		I guess one of the security guards before me had left your station on.
		So pretty good.
		I was pretty lucky.
		And you keep me going through the night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It really does make time fly, doesn't it?
unidentified		Yeah, it does.
		Well, anyway, I had my dog for about nine years.
		It's my very first pet.
		Loved it to death.
		And I just wanted to say the way he died, he died about eight months ago.
		And it was on a Sunday.
		We were going to church.
		And he'd been acting a little funny when we left.
		And I always tell my dog, and I say goodbye to it every time I leave.
		And when we came back, it was about 12 o'clock, he was sitting on our porch in the front of the door, and he was looking at me.
		So I walked up to it, and it was whimpering.
		So I asked it what was wrong, and it put its hand out.
		You know how dogs put their hands out to shake your hand?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
unidentified		And I said, what was wrong?
		And he just fell over.
		And I remember that because in my mind, I think that he waited for me to come home before he let go.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Clearly.
		Yeah, I'll tell you, our pets, it's the toughest part of this whole thing.
		Everything else is just stuff, as I said a little earlier.
		It's just stuff.
		But my cats have been part of my life as children.
		So I'm Trying to do the right thing.
		And in the case of my wild guy, Comet, he would not stand up.
		It looks like there may be a 30-day quarantine.
		He wouldn't stand up to that.
		He just wouldn't.
		It would be so wrong to try and take him.
		And Dusty, you know, I think I'm at kind of a limit.
		I'm going to take two of my cats.
		That would be about the best I can do in the kind of setting I'm going to be in.
		But Yeti and Abby Does have no idea what's coming up for them.
		Perhaps quarantine, perhaps not.
		As I said, research on the web shows about half the time there is no quarantine.
		The other half of the time it looks like there is quarantine.
		And I have their shot records all set and ready to go.
		We'll see.
		That's about in the condo kind of environment I'm going to be in.
		That's about the most I can manage is two.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Hello, Ork.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		I wanted to wish you the best on this Easter and that you know that your karma has changed for the best for you personally, that you're leaving the United States in a very good format for your future, and that love and harmony and the Spirit are with you right now and have taken you out of the depths and darkness of despair in the Valley of the Shadows.
unidentified		And I'm happy, happy for you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's exactly how it feels.
unidentified		Well, I had a story of, I know it's almost the end of the hour, so I'll make it as fast as I can.
		November of this year, last year I'd been speaking with a friend about a situation that happened May 9th of 2004.
		His wife had died.
		I'd known them for 25 years, and we had practiced metaphysics and cold magic in the white arena together for many years.
		And by May 9th, 2005, on the evening of that night at about midnight, I'd been meditating for three hours.
		And his wife had told me something very strange.
		She appeared in audio voice like your couple last night who was speaking on the terms of recording audios of the dead.
		And the thing is, right before midnight, his wife told me, tell Douglas to stay with Shelly, who had just met his new girlfriend that he just met two weeks before.
		And I didn't have anything to know about her knowledge about who she was or what she had come to be in his life for, except his wife, Kathy, told me to tell him.
		And I called him up directly, immediately, right at midnight.
		And I said, Doug, you wouldn't believe what just happened.
		And I told him, and he said, you're not going to believe what I'm going to tell you.
		Sit down.
		And he said, she died exactly at this time, one year ago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		On May 9th.
unidentified		And this is a validation of what is that spirit essence that still is qualifyingly living in the concrete, but in the next definitive dimensional level.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I totally believe it.
unidentified		And I think your wife in the past knows it too right now.
unidentified		She's watching, and she's very happy in a spiritual sense.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm very well aware of that, sir.
		Easily the most hated and loved guest that I ever have on this program.
		And I mean it, hated and loved.
		He's a decorated military intelligence officer, an original member of the now famous, or is it infamous, U.S. Army Prototype Remote Viewing Training Program.
		I've read his entire military record, beginning to end.
		It's a long one.
		And everything in there is true.
		He served as the Training and Operations Officer for the Defense Intelligence Agency's Psychic Intelligence Collection Unit.
		Currently serves as Executive Director for the Matrix Intelligence Agency, which is a private consulting group.
		The technical consultant for the feature film Suspect Zero.
		I love that movie, by the way.
		It was a Tom Cruise-Paula Wagner production.
		Ed actually coached Sir Ben Kingsley, had a little part himself in the movie, and played the role of an FBI remote viewing instructor as well.
		Now, it was really a good movie.
		I've got to say of this movie that it was, you know, I watched it with a judgmental eye, I would say.
		And I really, at the end, I thought that was excellent.
		So if you get a chance, see it, Suspect Zero.
		In a moment, the man who, well, say it again, is the most loved and hated.
		That's quite a title to have.
		guest that I ever have on the radio, Major Ed Dames, coming right up.
		It is a curious thing.
		It really is.
		The people who dislike Ed Dames continually mention his misses or what they consider to be his misses.
		The people who dislike him sort of concentrate only on that and never on what he hit.
		And he had quite a few hits over the years.
		And it's been a lot of years now that Ed's been on the show.
		He's had a lot of hits.
		And then there's that other timeline thing.
		Ladies and gentlemen, here he is.
		First of all, Ed, welcome back to the program.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Happy Easter, Art.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure it's happy for you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		It is indeed a happy Easter for me.
		I am so in love, Ed.
		Anyway, I guess we share something somewhat in common.
		You're marrying a woman from the Ukraine, is that correct?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		From Ukraine, yes.
		In fact, I'm moving to, as I mentioned a couple of shows ago, I'm moving to Ukraine to be with her.
		She doesn't want to come to the States, and I can understand that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Nor does my bride.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Isn't that it's rather interesting and statistically unusual.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		In those two countries, both the Philippines and Ukraine, and as well as many other countries, the family is so important, family and friends.
unidentified		Correct.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And it can be cold here.
		The standard of living by our standards is high, but it's cold.
		It can be emotionally cold.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, a lot of gals all around the world had formed their opinion of the United States based on our movies and our television.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And, you know, we have so much media that comes from the U.S. We're king of the world in that category.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And that's how they formed their opinion Of what all of America is like by watching movies.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so, of course, in many cases, it's simply not accurate.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No, no.
		But they do form their opinion on what they see.
		And they do.
		In Ukraine, unfortunately, now with the advent of television, about 10 or 15 years ago, TV became very popular.
		And there's a lot, instead of reading books, they're now plopped in front of the TV.
		As soon as that will be the Internet, of course.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you fluently speak Chinese, and now you're going to have to go learn Russian.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I'm enjoying learning Russian.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I only speak a little now, but I'm learning fast.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I guess you're a fast learner, if you're fluent in Chinese.
		Anyway, it's certainly good to have you back.
		When are you going to the Ukraine?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I'll go to Ukraine hopefully next month for a short period of time, and then a longer time in July.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I'm aiming toward a late autumn or winter marriage.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, congratulations.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		Now, I mentioned at the top of the show here that those who dislike you, and there are many, you have a lot of fans, Ed.
		I mean, you really, really have a lot of fans.
		And even a lot of the people that hate you wouldn't miss a word you say.
		They wouldn't miss a word you say.
		They point out what they consider to be your failures.
		Do you have any failures you would like to document and say, yeah, I screwed up absolutely on that one?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes, I'll talk about one big one tonight.
		In fact, I did an interview for the May issue of After Dark, and I almost talked about my failure.
		I almost said it, but everything changed last week in terms of those failures.
		There won't be any more failures after last week.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		A tremendous breakthrough, one that I'm ecstatic about.
		This search problem that we've had to deal with, I've had to deal with for the past 22 years that has been an abysmal failure, particularly with what MIA, the Matrix Intelligence Agency, calls Project Operation Goldeneye, Search for Children and Child Murderers.
		Yes.
		Terrible failure.
		We've had very, very few successes on that.
		And that's my favorite project, of course, as you know.
		But last week I flew into Ann Arbor and sat down with my partner, Brent Miller, to try to really work the search problem over and over again.
		We had a good method that we developed called a geofix method, but it just became unwieldy.
		We wanted something that was much more streamlined and effective.
		So we sat down for a week, and we came up with a breakthrough that is profound.
		It is totally profound.
		We can now locate a target, any target, person, place, thing, a treasure, a fugitive, a missing child, to GPS precision every single time.
		We field tested this breakthrough.
		Brent Miller had someone hide a cigarette case within a 40-square-mile area of Las Vegas, Nevada.
		And he was able by himself, without my backup or anybody else on the team's backup, to walk up to that cigarette, to the rock that the cigarette case was hidden at and find it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Dare I ask how?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		We looked at what was working in terms of the search problem, what we didn't have in the military unit.
		I mean, this would have been a dream in the military unit days 25 years ago to have something like this.
		And we didn't.
		It took all this time to develop it.
		We use a terrain index reference system that's still proprietary.
		And we have to teach our students, of course, how to find things.
		And it's technical in nature, but the breakthrough is very, very elegant and simple.
		And it takes us, an individual, probably about a professional, two days minimally to precisely, within a few meters, locate a target.
		But without understanding remote viewing and how it works, it would be difficult to explain to you how we actually do it.
		We run through a series of about 60 to 80 remote viewing sessions that last not your regular 45 minute to two hour sessions, but perhaps 15 minutes.
		And we compile the information and we use some mathematics techniques.
		And out from that falls pinpoint locations.
		And we used it this week to actually locate a child's.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's wonderful to hear that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I guess remote viewing, really, would you call it a science?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, I would now.
		In fact, right now, with this technique, with this geofix technique, we can outperform any technology-based system.
		Outperform it every time.
		We can tell you where a threat submarine is parked, where Osama bin Laden is.
		I mean, I'm like a kid in the candy store.
		What do you go after?
		Noah's Ark, Osama bin Laden, Atlantis?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's a serious, very, very serious improvement if you've really done this.
		I would think the military would be most immediately interested in such an increase in capability.
		I mean, it is an emerging and changing reality.
		It's morphing, right?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, obviously the CIA is very interested in terms of strategic intelligence.
		And I'll tell you what I'm interested in in a moment, but as one might imagine, in terms of strategic intelligence collection, the highest priority for this breakthrough is nuclear terrorism.
		And I think it's an interesting coincidence that this particular breakthrough probably came perhaps not a minute too late.
		In this context, my team is not only a national asset in terms of, let's say, nuclear emergency search team support, but we're an international asset as well.
		And that's after 22 years, this discovery, 22 years in the field, this discovery is beyond simply meeting the promise of RV, which would have been what I would have been happy with, to be able to find the missing child each time, for instance.
		But it's really going to silence the skeptics.
		And historically speaking, it's profound not only in terms of intelligence collection, But also in terms of, let's say, human potential.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, Ed, if you so much as identify the exact whereabouts very publicly of somebody very publicly missing, you could immediately add 10 tons of credibility and you'd have people rapping at your door.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No question.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It's going to come fast.
		After the field test, we immediately applied it operationally.
		My primary role is still that of an educator.
		I teach people to do this, but I'm still an intelligence officer.
		And I use remote filming exclusively for the information that I collect and that my team collects.
		But we've got this precision guidance system now.
		And we took it into the field very recently on a missing child case.
		Now, I have sent Lex Lonewood and you overhead photography.
		I do not want to talk about this case nor do I want to talk about what's on that film.
		But you'll see at the crosshairs in one of the overhead photos that I sent you, specifically right there is a child's body.
		And the murderer is on that particular property.
		But what we have to do, because the FBI and law enforcement agencies are so overworked, and these kids, for instance, when we're dealing with kids, they fall off the radar screen really quickly.
		and what about more than a about uh...
		but that tonight but but we have to do And we realized we have to do everything ourselves, not only do the field work, but we have to investigate a culprit.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And that means Well, that's a lot of resources, for one thing.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, once you streamline the process, we know exactly what to do.
		For instance, on this occurrence case, a child murder.
		Not only do we have to be on the ground and surveil a location and perhaps a person, a murderer, abductor, murderer, kidnapper in this case, but we've got to actually do more than that.
		And sometimes we, for instance, we have to interact with the murderer to gain intelligence.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean virtually get in the murderer's mind?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No, no.
		We have to be on the ground and actually interact.
		So in addition to, for instance, I've got to publicly express my gratitude to David Rosetta for a recent operation, one of my team members.
		You can see his picture on a past webpage, our show.
		He actually had a hidden camera and video, and he actually interacted with the murderer, got close enough, put himself in harm's way so that we could get the essential evidence we need.
		And he came up with some really critical data, too.
		He was near the murderer and about the murderer.
		Stuff that we need to put together a portfolio to put together a case to present to FBI and other law enforcement cognizant agencies to convince them to conduct a search.
		Otherwise, DA won't grant search warrants and those kinds of things.
		So we've got to actually put together an entire case.
		And that means intelligence collection, the whole bit.
		We can't depend on law enforcement to do this.
		I think one of my goals has always been to become an operating arm of America's most wanted.
		And now we can realize that.
		So I'm just ecstatic over this breakthrough.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's going to take nailing one, as I said, to prove what you're saying.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're confident you can do that.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I am beyond confident.
		Like I say, I'm ecstatic.
		This thing is so sweet.
		It's a wonderful discovery.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, whatever it is, you should make it very public.
		I mean, you've got to nail something before the public's eyes.
		Oh, really?
		It's not enough to send Lex something and myself something.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Oh, we're patently aware of that.
		One of the things we're going to do is we're going to do that quickly, very quickly.
		We have some unfinished business.
		I have an Edmonton serial killer that we have to put out of the commission.
		And my own most wanted man, who's also Russia's most wanted man, is Shamil Basaev.
		He's the engineer of the Best Land Massacre.
		I need to help the FSB, Russia's security service, to neutralize him.
		But those are personal projects.
		Some of the projects I'll talk about tonight, you'll see results on very quickly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, let's talk about them.
unidentified		Okay.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Again, you were mentioning what I consider my failures.
		The missing children cases were my biggest failures because we could always get close to a missing child, usually a child's body, but never close enough to be digging in the right spot.
		We could identify the location of the child's murderer, but we couldn't get enough evidence to take the murderer off the street or to have, let's say, law enforcement conduct a search.
		There wasn't enough to convince law enforcement to give them a cause for search.
		But because of the pinpoint accuracy of this breakthrough now, the pinpoint accuracy, we don't have to waste resources scrolling around on reconnaissance, many reconnaissance trips and things like that.
		We can go right to the target.
		And the missing child case this week, I think, may be the first one that comes to light, but possibly not.
		We're going to help with the Natalie Holloway investigation, and that's a good case in point.
		I took that project on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What can you tell us about her?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I took the project on.
		I'm going to tell you something about her.
		I took the project on only because my heart went out to Dave Holloway, her father, after I read an excerpt from his book on the web.
		I couldn't help but put myself in his place.
		Usually I only go after younger children because they're innocent.
		They're totally innocent.
		And evil's got them.
		And we feel drawn to those cases more than others.
		But it was just pretty heart-rending to read that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, if you want to stick your neck out on Holloway, go ahead.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm going to.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Go.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Witness the turtle.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It only makes progress by sticking its neck out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and I'm a risk-taker, too, as you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so extend.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so a typical project like that, I divide my team up into two tasks.
		So three or four of the team members go to work remote viewing the target's location and disposition.
		In this case, we're looking at Natalie Holloway.
		Is she dead or alive?
		And where is she?
		Those kinds of things.
		The other half of my team goes to work with this new geofix technique to pinpoint her location.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Exactly where, yes.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		So her disposition, and many of my students in my last workshop in Las Vegas, and I have another workshop next month scheduled too, the students work this as a practicum.
		And the students in my remote viewing forum, my teaching forum on the web, also work these kinds of things.
		So they're working real-world problems.
		What I can tell you is that we did not investigate her death, the circumstances surrounding her death, only her disposition presently.
		She has been stuffed, her body has been stuffed into a lobster cage, a weighted lobster cage, and sunk immediately off the coast of Aruba.
		Now, that's her disposition.
		But those findings are really irrelevant to the authorities.
		That's just our word against anybody else's, except for one thing.
		Now with this technique, this precise technique, the technique is independent of topography or terrain.
		Open water, tundra, you name it, desert, we can pinpoint an ancient city as well as a body in the water.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you believe her body will be located in the manner that you just suggested it'll be found?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to put an X in the next week.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to put an X exactly on a map exactly over where the body is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's exactly what you need to do.
		Once again, Major Ed Dames.
		Welcome back, Ed.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so you've got it to the point where you actually, truly this time, and there was, you sort of made the same declaration not long ago, that you had, you know, actually nailed down a way for the where, the exact where of things.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Down to around 10 miles, and then the system started to get, it became unwieldy, and there were mistakes that we were making in the process as well.
		But we fixed that.
		We fixed that in no uncertain terms.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, this will also extend then, apparently, to some gold.
		Tell me about this.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		My team, as a reward for my team, they asked to go after a gold treasure.
		We found, using remote viewing, a strong box that is sitting around in the Sierra foothills, and that is the gold target that I had talked about on your show.
		Now, in order to complete that promise to you, it looks like I'm going to have to fly to the Philippines to put that gold in your hand for a photo op.
		No, no, really.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I can't.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		That was a promise.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I've got to keep it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, good for you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Will that be from the States or will that be from Ukraine?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		God only knows.
		From Ukraine, I think it's equidistant.
		Either way, through China, maybe through China because I speak the language.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		All right, so I can look forward to your eager little well, actually, to get into the building I'm in, you've got to have some ID.
		You've got plenty of that.
		So I'll hear and get a call saying there's this man down here who's got gold for you, sir.
		Let's assume he can make it to my door alive.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I'll give you a hit.
		I had an international group, a group of international lawyers that I did a contract for once, and they called themselves the SHIT Group, the Search for Hidden International Treasure.
		No, I'm serious about this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Great acronym.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, in Scottsdale.
		And their target was General Yamashta's, General Yamashita's treasure, which was the biggest treasure, one of the biggest treasures in the world, and hidden somewhere on the island of Luzon.
		And that was a fascinating contract.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is there anything spiritually wrong with seeking targets of rich?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I think there's nothing spiritual about remote viewing.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Remote viewing is all.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, wait a minute.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you really sure?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		But remote viewing is a mind tool.
		It's a mind process.
		It's a mind skill.
		It has nothing to do with spirit.
		What you're talking about is ethics art, not spirit.
		I think.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, no, actually, I did mean are there spiritual aspects to it?
		And you know what?
		Yes, there are, Ed.
		By your own declarations, for example, you have encountered non-human entities.
		And that is the spiritual, a spiritual aspect of it, in my way of thinking.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, everything, in our world, as a remote viewer, everything exists as a pattern of information.
		And as things in other dimensions, spiritual entities, you and I, television, set, it's all information.
		So we're going to this information registry to download information.
		And that's the skill I'm talking about.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, yes, but if some of that information detected is clear evidence of spiritual existence beyond human.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sorry, I mean, that qualifies.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		If you say so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I guess I do.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I wouldn't call it evidence.
		We already have seen the problem we have with evidence, which we're about to fix.
		In fact, I'm going to furnish that map to Dave Holloway, to Natalie's father, but I'm also going to give it to Lex Lumwood, your webmaster, to post on your page.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's what you need to do.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And if myself and one other member of my team are qualified divers, and I have a lot of experience, and we have our hands full right now, or we would do this ourselves.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		But we might have to eventually if that body is not recovered when we put that X there, but I think it will be...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		I mean, you're making very definitive, relatively short-term statements.
		A good thing for you to do if you can back it up.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
		You have not seen how wonderful and profound this discovery is, this breakthrough.
		If only we had this during the military unit days, history would have been rewritten.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I imagine the program would still be going.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It would be going, but you wouldn't hear about it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I wonder if that's not true anyway, Ed.
		I mean, that's a serious thing that I've been thinking about in all the years I've been talking about remote viewing.
		If, as you guys say, you know, you and the others, and you know, I've interviewed, I think, all of them, Ingo included, everyone says remote viewing works.
		Nobody argues about that.
		They all say it works.
		If it really works, Ed.
		And if you've made, particularly if you've made this improvement, then if we're not doing it, then we're neglectful of national security.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, it wasn't that it was hit and miss.
		It just wasn't successfully, it didn't successfully support operations to the degree that we as commanders needed it to.
		And that's why, because it hadn't evolved.
		It hadn't matured as a science yet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm willing to buy that.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		That's just changed.
		That's why I will probably be teaching CIA teams.
		But the change took 22 years of a lot of work and a lot of mistakes.
		But all those mistakes in the field and otherwise, they count because you learn from the mistakes unless you make the same mistakes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, let me try this line with you, please.
		This is very important to many people, Ed.
		You have predicted some very dire things for the world, from children dying to massive number of people worldwide dying from solar activity to, I mean, all kinds of very dire things, Ed.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I didn't want to talk about those at the Easter.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's all right.
		No choice.
		Since you've made, admitted to mistakes with regard to children, missing children, is it also possible that some of these more dire predictions you've made could also be inaccurate?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		The mistakes I made with regard to the children were in locating the children.
		I am.
		And I would point out to you that one of the predictions, actually it's a forecast because we're looking over the horizon.
		These situations exist in the future.
		That's why they're viewable.
		They're already there.
		Mind is outside of time, so it just vectors over to this new information position.
		One of the situations that was the most dire was starving children because there was no milk.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And why was there no milk?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Because dairy cows had developed some type of a disease.
unidentified		Yes, sir.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		The first dairy cow today, the report was today, in Canada with bovine, spongiform, encephalopathy.
		Bovine, we thought it was an AIDS-related disease 20 years ago, looking over the horizon where all these children were dying.
		But it's mad cow disease, and a cow, not a steer, was diagnosed with that in Canada today.
		That's what I'm talking about.
		That's not going to just be an isolated instance.
		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But again, one of the rough areas was not just location with remote viewing.
		It's always been admitted, I think, that timelines were extremely difficult.
		Sometimes you could only mark them by some other event, and so you'd end up saying, well, when you see Mount So-and-so erupt, then look for something else to happen soon thereafter.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Correct.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		The nearest recognizable preceding event, a bracketing, a window to bracket it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So with regard to the timelines, isn't there still possibility of error?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, absolutely, in terms of timeline.
		But we can work on that next.
		In fact, we are.
		We already started.
		Now that we have this breakthrough in precision guidance in terms of GPS level accuracy, which will demonstrate, in fact, the skeptics will be put in their place quite soon.
		I promise you that.
		I guarantee that to you.
		That's how accurate this system is.
		But yes, we still need to work on the time problem.
		We've got the search problem solved now.
		Can the time problem be solved?
		Is it soluble?
		I do not know, but we're certainly going to work on it, one thing at a time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		But every science evolves.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It takes a long time for sciences to evolve and for technologies to spin out from them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I agree.
		I really always have and do firmly believe there's some real aspects to what you're doing.
		It's real.
		But it's not perfected.
		It's not a perfected science.
		It's far from over, and we know less about our own minds and what we're capable of than any other part of our body.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Granted.
		Yeah, but at least this breakthrough is a real start because it will put remote viewing on the map worldwide.
		And that's why I picked these really sexy, big targets like you see the pictures on your website of the Le Sau Blanc, the White Bird, which is our flagship project.
		Those kinds of things really will serve to put remote viewing on the map once and for all.
		It took a while, but like I say, we hung in there, we worked hard, and now we're going to reap the glory.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why do you think of all the remote viewers that came from the military program, you are virtually the only one who has chosen to look at the more dire aspects of what's ahead for mankind?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		To save lives.
		Hopefully, to save lives.
		That's what it's all about.
		Hey, guys, there's something over the horizon you need to know about.
		If they would have known about that in Baton Rouge and before Katrina or in any number of instances, lives would have been saved.
		That's why we do it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, when things like that happen, people tend to say, where were the remote viewers?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		We've discussed that over the years on your show.
		We have to actually look in a certain direction to see things coming.
		It's not omnidimensional all the time.
		We have to be able to look specifically at something, the next earthquake, let's say the next earthquake with a massive loss of life or heavy damage in North America.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well, look, here would be an easy one for you.
		The next time we get a major Cat 4 or 5 hurricane that's in the Gulf somewhere, why don't you put together a team?
		I mean, you've got two or three days once it's in the southern part of the Gulf before it's going to strike any specific Land.
		Nobody knows, really, two or three days out where the hell it's going to hit.
		That's sort of general projections that are very wide.
		Why don't you put together a team and call it?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Actually, that's quite a doable thing.
		I've never thought about doing anything like that because I'm like a kid in the candy store right now with all the things I want to do with the discovery.
		But that's eminently doable, actually.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's a wear thing, right?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it is, and that's what we have now.
		We have the tool to do that.
		So it's eminently doable, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think June 1st marks the beginning of the hurricane season again.
		And people are going to be very, very nervous this year.
		So if two or three days out from landfall, you could call the exact point of landfall, Ed.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		We'll do it.
		We'll do it.
		That's a great project.
		I didn't think of anything like that.
		But it's a great way to demonstrate what we've got now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so I hand you that one.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I'm looking for the gold.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Don't forget the goldfish.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, the gold, actually, the gold search is scheduled for the first week in June.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No kidding.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's when our team is going in.
		We don't have access to the area until Memorial Day.
		And so we can't get in there until then.
		So we're scheduled the first week of June to go in.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Where to now?
		We've got so much to talk about.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I'd like to talk about the La Sau Blanc.
		And, of course, this very, very important project about the next crop circle.
		But the La Saux Blanc is our flagship project.
		And I'd like to say a few words about that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Please do.
unidentified		Yeah.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And I'd also like to remind people that the skill I'm talking about is a skill.
		We're not psychics.
		This is a trained ability.
		That's what I do.
		I teach people how to do this.
		So at some juncture in your show, I'd like to plug my teaching stuff.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You certainly may.
		I mean, we can do that here in a moment.
		Now, wait a minute.
		There is a difference you just delineated between psychics and remote viewers.
		I've had, I guess what I would call some psychics on the program recently who have done some pretty incredible things.
		For example, well, actually, she doesn't call herself a psychic, instead a witch.
		She's made some pretty remarkable predictions.
		Evelyn Paglini has been pretty dead on.
		So some psychics, Ed, seem very gifted.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, my mentor, the father of remote viewing, was the most gifted psychic not only I, but most people have ever run into, Ingo Swan.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, and Ingo indeed is just an incredible, incredible man who's just hit so much.
		And yeah, you're right.
		He's a psychic.
		So being a strong, natural psychic has obvious, I don't know, enhanced capabilities when you enter the world of remote viewing.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		As I've mentioned on previous shows, when I train natural psychics, then there's a possible, if they toe the line, it's possible for them to become not just professionals, but all-stars.
		A gifted natural psychic, after they're trained properly, can produce nominally twice as much detail in a given period of time, let's say an hour, than I could.
		I'd have to do two or three remote viewing sessions to produce that much detail.
		But if they're not trained, there is a problem.
		They cannot recognize when their own ego or their own analysis or their own imagination is influencing the data.
		Ingo Swan was extremely careful about this and studied himself.
		So that's why we did not use, in the military team, we did not use natural psychics to collect intelligence because when they were on target, they were really on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Discipline problems.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Remote viewing is not that rigorous.
		It's as rigorous as any other skill, whether it's playing the piano or skiing.
		It takes some rigor.
		Otherwise, you can't do it.
		That's why you need a coach and you need a structure and a model.
		And that's what I do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I can buy that.
		Yeah, that really is the center of what you do.
		You teach people how to do this.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		But no psychic can match the performance that we're capable of now with this breakthrough technology.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're obviously very excited about this.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it's just beyond belief.
		22 years, I've never seen anything.
		We could not have even dreamt that something like this was possible.
		And all of a sudden it's in our lap.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, look, an honest, straightforward question.
		Again, with respect to the dire things, the children, the milk, the sons, activities, how many people are going to die.
		Do you want to express any caution right now with respect to how quickly these things are going to happen that you could be perhaps wrong?
		Do you want to correct any of the dire predictions that you've made?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No.
		No.
		I wouldn't have said them unless I, you know, the timelines, of course, I agree with you.
		Timelines are really shaky.
		But at least to get the predictions, get people looking that way, looking at the sun, looking at cows being infected with mad cow disease and perhaps dairy cows, which has now happened.
		So these things are important.
		What are you going to do when you don't have milk for your baby?
		How are you going to feed it?
		Those kinds of things.
		Get ready.
		Be ready.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Soy comes to mind.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, so some kids are allergic to soy.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		There's problems there, too, so you have to, what are you going to do for your baby?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, certainly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you don't, even given that you admit there could be a timeline problem, which gives me a little bit of hope, because maybe it'll happen after I'm well and gone.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		We always know there's a timeline problem.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		We know that now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, see, that's a little bit of hope.
		Where before you were so sure, Ed, about even the when of it, really, that it was depressing to listen to.
		I mean, I guess this is going to happen, but if it happens a generation or so from now, that's a big difference for most of us.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No, it's not going to be a generation.
		It's going to be within the next five years to a decade max.
		I'll hang my hat on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, all right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hanging your hat on that.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It's talking about hanging your hat.
		There's one thing.
		I don't want to interrupt you for one thing.
		I have a bone to pick with the bug sport cartoonist, Ted Bastion.
		His last week's Bug Sport, which is still on your website on remote viewing, he's got me remote viewing a gray, and then the gray uses me, my ectoplasm, as not only a coat rack, but a hat rack, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I get no respect.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know.
		I know.
		It's not an easy job that you do.
		You know, it's interesting that you mentioned Grays because I had a person who emailed me and wanted you to take the time, if you could again, to tell us everything you know about Grays, to describe them, to tell us what you believe they're all about, what they really are, all of that.
		Are you willing to do that?
		By the way, I want to take a second now to, again, really thank Premier Radio Networks.
		They're my company, as you know.
		Craig Kitchen, who runs it.
		He's president.
		And then, of course, the parent company, Clear Channel Radio.
		They've all been so incredibly supportive.
		I mean, what I've done is certainly a big shock to many people, I'm sure, including no doubt them.
		But they stepped right forward and said, no, you know, let's do the show from the Philippines.
		Now, that's not like an everyday idea.
		So I want to thank them for being as supportive as they've been.
		And so one of these days soon, I expect to be able to send some webcam shots to you of downtown Metro Manila at night, which should be a pretty interesting viewing, to say the least.
		And of course, a lot of other things.
		Checking the webcam tonight, you will find, well, some of the typical geography to be found over there.
		So go to Coast2Coast AM and click on Arts Webcam.
		Take a look-see.
		In the meantime, it's back to Ed Dames, Major Ed Dames.
		And Major, I'd like you to go ahead and do your plug now, if you would.
		I love to allow any guest to plug what they're doing and what you do as remote viewing.
		So what do you want to plug?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I want to plug my teaching products in my workshop.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		That's how I make a living.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		But treasure hunting is a nice moonlight job.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Will you, as I have done, continue to teach from Ukraine?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Oh, absolutely.
		I love my job.
		I've been doing it for 22 years, and now it's really interesting, even more every day.
		So I'll be doing working from Ukraine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		So the workshops.
		How do people get involved?
		What does it cost?
		All that kind of stuff.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		My next workshop for beginners, if you want to learn how to remote view from me and my team of professionals, is in Las Vegas on the 20th and the 21st of May, a weekend.
		And you can call the number that I will give you to enroll for that.
		It's the same number that if you would like to learn more about remote viewing, you can do that by going to my website, and that's learnrv.com.
		And you'll see that I have a set of DVDs, and that's the premier set, training, teaching RV set in the world.
		You can order that online, or you can call a toll-free number that's manned 24 hours a day.
		And that number is 1-866-607-8439.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, that's, I think, a different number than you've given out previously.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is that correct?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Negative.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's not.
		Okay, 1-866-607-8439.
		And at that number, you'll be able to either order DVDs, inquire about the workshops, or get involved in any way you want.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And if you want to take your time and do some research, go to learnrv.com.
		Go to my teaching forum.
		That's free.
		I teach advanced skills to all of my students, and that training is free.
		And I'm there all the time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		As close as the net.
		So being in Ukraine won't change a thing.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Negative.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Nor has it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		So one more time, folks.
		866-607-8439.
		Crop circles.
		Now, one way, you're claiming in here, it seems like, that you're going to say when one is going to form, which means people could set up ringside seats and actually watch a crop circle form?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Correct.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Now, there's more to it than that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's quite enough.
		Sticking your neck out pretty far on that.
		X marks the spot, huh?
		What about the timeline part of this?
		I mean, suppose you get a big crowd out there waiting and...
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		We just have the next down.
		Now, you can average, if one averages the average time between one circle and another, it's usually no more.
		In North America, it's usually no more than, let's say, three weeks or a month.
		Now, many times there are crop circles formed, but the farmers don't want their crops trampled down, so they never say anything about that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's what I understand.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I do.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And other times, the crops are just simply not found.
		The circles are not found.
		But let me give you my modus operandi behind this.
		It's really important instead of just for a cute, entertaining thing.
		First of all, I think the SETI program is looking in the wrong direction.
		I really do.
		And I believe that the crop circles are ETI calling cards, that they're here.
		Extraterrestrial intelligence is here, and these circles are their calling cards.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, we know some of them are bogus.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We know that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And how do we discern between the bogus and the non-bogus?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, if you do some research on the web, you can see the differences between a man-made and a non-man-made crop circle, especially in the nodes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The nodes, that's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There's a molecular change that actually occurs.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		There is.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And in fact, remote viewing teams have actually tried to study and understand what goes on there, and we cannot.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I remember once you said you thought crop circles were markers, time markers, wasn't it?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		Years ago we thought that they were, that they were being used as reference points, but I don't think that's the case anymore.
		We were really interested in how they were produced and what system was producing them, whether it was late tectonic movement or whatever.
		That's why we first started studying it, and then I got more interested.
		Here's why.
		First of all, when you have a circle, the next crop circle, for instance, next, it refers to our moving time, the way the human mind manages reality.
		We perceive time flowing.
		And most of us know that that's just an illusion.
		These circles, as well as you at home in your condo in the Philippines, is a reality that remote viewers know.
		You're already there, but you're over there.
		We can look at you there, because mind is outside of time.
		Mind, the universal mind, just looks down on this broad planet of events, and they already exist.
		So the crop circles are already there.
		We just have to turn our attention as remote viewers to them and then do our job.
		So the next circle, to some people, is no more than that.
		Oh, you know, they're right, here's the circle.
		And by the way, I think that Lex, your webmaster, has probably put by now a map of where the next circle will be in North America.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		And it's down to a 10-kilometer radius.
		The reason we didn't get it any closer is we didn't have time enough.
		It would have taken another half day to pinpoint it down to within 500 meters, say, and we didn't have time to do that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Again, using the new process.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Roger.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No, we used the new process for this as well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yep, that's what I'm saying.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and that circle will appear in northern Alberta near the British Columbia border.
		That particular circle.
		And it'll be just to the west of a little town called Clear Prairie, Alberta.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you're saying this will be the next North American circle?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yes, the next non-man-made circle.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so that red ring is 10 kilometers in radius if you go to your website.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And on the timeline?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		We don't know.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Again, we haven't solved that problem.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you have it away.
		I mean, you've said next.
		Well, you know, there's going to be North American crop circles, that's for damn sure.
		So I guess any that appear prior to this one will have to be regarded in your mind as frauds.
		I mean, they're not real, right?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Either that or it's a miss on our part, which we don't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, a miss?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Could it be?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I don't think so.
		It would have to be one or the other.
		We'd either have to miss it or it's a missing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, you got your neck pretty far out this morning.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		That's okay.
		I'll stick it out even further.
		But here's why I think this is so important, Mark.
		So important.
		If we can start forecasting the next circles and have people waiting for the formation, that will mean to this higher intelligence which is forming the circles, and we believe it's a higher intelligence that's already here.
		Sethi's looking out at the stars, they're here.
		This higher intelligence, this system that creates the circles will see, will know that we're there and that we had foreknowledge of this particular circle creation, the formation of that.
		They will know that we've mastered the ability to use focused consciousness.
		And in so doing, I think that we demonstrate a higher level of intelligence ourselves, which may mean to them that we've evolved.
		And we turn these tools towards discovering our place in the universe.
		So what I'm saying is by anticipating and being present at the crop circle formation events, we will show them something.
		It may very well be the equivalent of warp drive in the context of Star Trek and the Prime Directive.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I doubt it, yeah.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And resolve in contact.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And that's, I really believe that that's what may happen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So then what, Ed?
		Crop circles are a measure of our intelligence.
		In other words, when we can finally predetermine where one is going to appear, that will be a communication to them that we have arrived.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		That we've arrived at a level of consciousness that's required by the Federation for contact.
		It means that we've evolved.
		Evolution takes place in the mind.
		The body really doesn't evolve.
		Evolution is up there.
		And I think that those acts by doing that will result in contact.
		And I really hope when that happens that they are not the Ferengi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I hope they're not, too.
		And I consider it about a 50-50 proposition.
		Why should we imagine that they would have our best interests in mind?
		Now, that means they could either actively be not our friends, or they could be so superior to us that they simply would not notice us any more than we notice, you know, the anthill.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I don't think those circles are for them.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I think they're for us, and we need their conundrum to probably be solved.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I hope you're correct.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And if they are a fringe, then I'm going to trade them.
		I plan on trading them some Earth women, probably American women, for some of their advanced technology.
		I had Lex Luther, Inca, nothing on that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, there's always ways to make money out of whatever it is that happens, even if it's a Ferengi, I guess.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		You asked about the Greys, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I certainly did.
		The Grays.
		Everything you can tell us about their motives, about what they really are, about those who drive them, what they look like, whatever.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I will tell you the only thing that I know about the Grays, and that my research has led me to believe, based upon some solid remote viewing data, and I don't know a lot about them.
		I don't understand them.
		But I will tell you this.
		The incident with Travis Walton, the Travis Walton abduction, which is a pretty famous case in ufology.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it is.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		That case, when we put ourselves where he went, and it was a physical event.
		He wasn't lying.
		He really was beamed up into something somewhere.
		That somewhere had five grays, five entities that exactly, almost exactly matched the description that people have given them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I completely believe Travis.
		I've interviewed him several times.
		Oh, he's been on your show?
		Oh, yeah, several times.
		No question about it.
		That was a real McCoy.
		I interviewed Travis, and I interviewed his boss and several others.
		And the whole story is just incredible and obviously true.
		That would be my judgment.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, as remote viewers, we are not biased by reports.
		We prefer to do the work because we have direct access to the truth.
		And that's why I'm in this business.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, You seem to have direct access to information.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		whether or not it's always the truth, I don't know.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		We both viewers, when they access the universal mind, when their minds connect with that, what we call the matrix, Let's drop the word truth.
		The facts.
		Just the facts, ma'am.
		The facts in the Travis Walton case are that his report about what these entities look like is basically correct.
		They do look like the heretofore described grays, the description of these things.
		And anything beyond that, I honestly don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Motivations?
		I mean, are they, for example, are they individually intellectual creatures?
		Are they a hive mind?
		Are they a creation of others?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		The only other thing I understand, I don't know.
		They could just as easily be bionic creatures created by others.
		We haven't researched it.
		We have not looked really into that.
		I think it would be what we wanted to do was actually have a tate-to-tate with them, meet them, and have them tell us what they are.
		Because I would rather do that than try to research.
		Remote viewing is difficult.
		It's hard work.
		It's a whole lot easier to sit down and tap them on the shoulder and say, okay, we could see that you would land here or you'd be here.
		Tell us about yourself.
		Here's one thing we do know, however.
		Their brain structure is extremely different than ours to the point where, and I think I mentioned this before, remember in Whitley Schriber's original book, Communion, where he says that he was in a sort of a catatonic state and this bug-eyed creature was looking at him.
		He perceived it to be possibly female.
		And he was frozen in terror.
		And the question was, did he ask some questions?
		Well, these things are not necessarily masochistic.
		The way their brain is structured, they don't have a bicameral brain.
		It's a solid unit.
		And their emotional system is very, very different.
		It takes them approximately six seconds to process our emotions, to see that they're frightening us.
		So while you think you're getting this blank stare, actually I don't think they have eyelids, that you're getting this stare, and you think that they're purposeless, they don't care about you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Instead, they've not yet digested what it is coming from you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, that's interesting.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		They haven't integrated the emotion.
		It takes them that long before they back out and they realize they've scared you.
		They're very, very physiologically different than we are.
		Whether or not they are created bionic beings or created in a test tube by another race, their progenitors or whatever, I don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you know anything about their intentions?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are they friendly or benign or not?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I know that there is a race very far away, possibly in another galaxy, that watches them.
		I don't know what the connection is.
		Those particular controllers, I call them, they're very far away.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Controllers?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I call them controllers, yeah.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		they appear to be running things at least in this galaxy well that starts to answer the question about whether they're puppets or Are they just observing what the grays are doing as well as observing everybody?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Orchestrating it.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I don't know if that's the case.
		So I don't know who the progenitors of the grays are at all.
		But I do know that if we get further into this and we do have contact, we'll probably meet our own progenitors.
		This system, we know as viewers, as professional viewers, manipulated DNA in the Rift Valley a long time ago, othinid DNA, and made us what we are today, good or bad.
		So they may not be our progenitors, but they did manipulate us.
		But they did manipulate humans and human DNA a long time ago, millions of years ago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, to many, that will make them our gods, our creators.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, and harking back to my point about Whitley, one of the things that he tried in his mind to say, if you remember from the book, to this bug-eyed gray, was you have no right.
		I quote, unquote, you have no right.
		And the transmission back was, we do.
		And my premise is that there's only two people that have the right to do that to you, your parents and your creator.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There you go.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you tend toward believing the latter.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I, I, I. I'd rather go with facts than beliefs because I don't trust my own mind.
		We're so fallible, aren't we?
		We make wrong decisions all the time.
		That's why viewing is the way I go when I want facts.
		Yes, some juncture, if somebody holds my feet to the fire and says, what do you believe about them?
		I could probably try to pull a rabbit out of the hat.
		But honestly, this time I don't think I can.
		I don't know what to believe about them.
		But I'm hanging some hopes on contact because I see mankind going down really fast, really, really fast.
		And I've talked to some Hollywood types, some directors, and they agree with me that probably the only thing that could get mankind to look up and away again instead of towards nuclear weapons and warfare and all this is contact.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		so that's why it's so important to me that's what i've decided why i've decided to to commit resources I'm not sure what could possibly lead us from what otherwise appears to be an inevitable, disastrous road.
unidentified		I agree.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		We're preaching to the choir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, except contact.
		That very well might do it.
		But it would have to be a benign, teaching, fatherly kind of con.
		And then, too, if information that they were our creators came with this, Ed, I just am not so comfortable that it would be digested without a great deal of violence and disruption, frankly.
		Music Guarantee, at some point here, we will open the phone lines, which are ringing off the hook for Ed Ames.
		And it's always a pretty volatile - it's generally a pretty volatile session.
		I would expect that tonight.
		Ed, welcome back.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Listen, what else would you like to cover before we do that?
		Before we open lines, I'd love to give the audience a shot at you.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Oh, great.
		Well, they can give me their best shot.
		But before they do, I'd like to briefly discuss what we're doing with our international flagship project, the recovery of the Lesau Blanc, the Whitebird aircraft.
		This is our flagship project because it is of interest, a great deal of interest, to the Europeans, particularly the French, who lost two heroic airmen when they tried to beat Charles Lindbergh's transatlantic flight and win the Ortigue Prize.
		Mr. Raymond Ortigue in 1927, actually 1926, I believe, offered $25,000 to the first person or crew that could make a Paris New York flight, or vice versa.
		And Charles Nungasser and Francois Colli, his navigator, these were decorated airmen.
		Nungasser was the number two ace in World War I, French ace.
		So these were not lightweights.
		They took off from Paris and were out to New York to win this prize, but disappeared.
		And that disappearance was a great loss to the French people.
		Sort of like the loss of Sante Toupere.
		It was a great loss to them.
		But they welcomed Charles Lindbergh 12 days later with open arms when he landed in Paris after having taken off from New York.
		What my team is saying is that that flight, the La Sau Blanc flight, made it to North America.
		The crew did not make it to New York.
		We're saying that they crashed about 400 kilometers north of New York City into the mountains in New Hampshire, just across the main border.
		Lex may have, your webmaster may have placed my map of the area near New Hampshire's Lake.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So somebody could go and look for the remains of the aircraft?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, we're going to recover the remains.
		The reason that circle is 20 kilometers, we don't want to tell people exactly where the aircraft is.
		We want the glory of recovering remains.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you know exactly where.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Oh, exactly.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And that operation is scheduled for September.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, see, you can close the deal with something of this magnitude.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know what I mean by close the deal.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I do.
		But it isn't just a solution to a mystery, for instance, like finding Amelia Earhart's remains of her aircraft.
		That brings closure to something.
		This changes the pages of history because it proves that the French beat Lindbergh by 12 days.
		And even though they would not have been eligible for the TIG Prize, they really did accomplish a transatlantic mission.
		And we also recover by recovering the aircraft, we may be lucky enough, depending on the location and degree of degradation, the remains of the crew as well, and return them to the French.
		So it's a big thing for us.
		It's our flagship project.
		And it's a whole lot more fun than finding dead kids.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I suppose so.
		I certainly hope that you nail one of these soon, Ed.
		You really need it.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		We've got what it takes now, Art.
		We've got what it takes.
		I wouldn't be so over-confident, confident, and it's coming across as arrogance, but it's not.
		It's a total confidence.
		I know what we have now, and it's a profound discovery.
		It's great.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Fascinating.
		And I hope it proves out.
		And you've certainly got your neck out a mile tonight, so maybe.
		Want to take a few calls?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I'd be glad to.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let's see what happens.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wildcard Line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
unidentified		Good morning.
unidentified		Good morning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
unidentified		Hello, Ed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		I am so blessed to be on the line after nine years of listening to Coast to Coast Art and following your show and your personality.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate all that, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you have a question for Ed?
unidentified		Ed?
unidentified		Yes, I do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, go ahead.
unidentified		I had got on the computer and checked out the remote viewing.
unidentified		You talk about natural remote viewers?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't talk about natural remote viewers.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I do not talk, sir, about natural remote viewers.
unidentified		All right.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Well, I became very excited when I heard what was going on here several years ago, and I got scared.
		I'm a person that has stage fright, and I was very interested in what you were doing, very excited about what you're doing, and it's a very good thing what you are doing.
		And it's the beginning of something very large, I believe.
		Me too.
		The money issue and the travel issue has turned me off.
		And I'd like to get turned back on somehow.
		I live in New York on the shores of Canadaigua Lake.
		And I'd like to be a part of what you're doing.
		I feel like I really need to be a part of what you're doing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, we can arrange that for you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ed, go ahead and give your plug again.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, the DVD sets, if you have a DVD player and you're not a technophobe, that's the best way to go.
		It's superb instruction, step-by-step instruction.
		And learn more about that at learnrv.com, where I teach, or you can call and order the DVDs at that toll-free number, 866-607-8439.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, LearnRV, which is easy, learnrv.com, or the toll-free number, 866-607-8439.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And I have a workshop in May, a beginner's workshop in Las Vegas.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And if you want to come to that, I'll make sure that you learn.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning.
unidentified		Hello, Ed and Mr. Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		My name is Casey, and I'm calling from WGOW, Talk Monster in Chattanooga, Tennessee.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Hello, I just had a quick question for Ed, and it relates to you as well, Mr. Bell.
		I think the mass consciousness experiments that, not really experiments, but somewhat the feeling out of the mass consciousness experiments that have been conducted somewhat through your program are rather powerful.
		And I think that possibly that's tapping onto something.
		But my question is to Ed, does he know of any kind of organization that is currently investigating the promise and potential of using the mass consciousness, say, national radio broadcast getting people on?
		I know some people compare it to praying, but I'm not trying to say it's praying or if it is or isn't, but I'm just saying, is there any organizations investigating this actively?
		And Mr. Bell, if you are able to broadcast directly to me whenever you go over there instead of going through the web, if you will, then that would be great too.
		But anyway, that's all I have to say.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		So, yes, Ed, the mass consciousness thing is, to me, fascinating.
		It worked.
		I have no doubt in my mind.
		It worked to the point where it scared me because I didn't know what I was toying with.
		And, of course, Princeton is pursuing it.
		I don't know of any other mass experiments that are going on presently, nationally, media-wise.
		But what do you think about it all, Ed?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, actually, I think Maharishi University or something like it, Maharishi University, they have one of the premises, operating premises there is that they're trying to affect the world by using mass consciousness projections of Do you think they could conceivably be successful?
		I think when there is a threshold number of people, I believe when there's a threshold number of people that really can be focused and directed, that a mountain might be movable.
		I really believe that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I really believe that too, Ed.
		It's just that I'm very tentative.
		In other words, I guess I reached and passed the bar on this one in the sense that I conducted the experiments and it worked so well it scared the hell out of me.
		I thought, what am I doing?
		And I thought, well, I don't know what I'm doing.
		So I'm going to stop until I can figure this out a little bit or try and figure it out a little bit.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, we know in my business what we can get away with, but there's a whole gray zone out there, a no-man's land, where we kind of stay away from because we don't have any control.
		We have control within our little boundaries of our little compound.
		For instance, we can slow your clock down and those kinds of things.
		You've seen that.
		But when you get into outside the gates of the compound, allegorically speaking, Katie, bar the door.
		We don't know.
		We don't understand the dynamics.
		We're just now beginning to gain some insight into remote viewing, which is a relatively passive act.
		And I don't think I'm ready to step too far away from that compound.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Welcome to the Rockies.
		You're on there with Major Ed Dames.
		Good morning.
		Okay.
		I've got to cut that out.
		Only first names on the program.
		So your first name is?
unidentified		Yeah, Martin.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, Martin.
unidentified		Proceed.
		I have just two questions, and one I have a little explanation or something I need to say about it.
		I'm in a juncture in my life, and I'd been getting pretty much nowhere, and I'm thinking seriously about going in for the, well, some kind of psychic training, which I've been advised to do in the past.
		And remote viewing seems like it might be just a thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, but it's not psychic training.
unidentified		Yes, I kind of realize that.
		Anyway, my questions for, two questions for Ed, and I probably take the answers off the air.
		One, is it possible that a person can, and have you ever done it, remote viewed yourself earlier in life?
		And secondly, with regards to the extraterrestrial picture, aren't there some others out there that you would know of who are kind of more closer to our relatives, closer in terms of physical body style?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, all right.
		That's a good one.
		They're both good ones.
		Ed, on the others that may be out there, any of them close to us in body style?
		Any Earth-like beings out there?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		There is.
		I won't call them a race.
		There are some individuals who actually use physical craft.
		Now, not all UFOs are physical.
		They're just lights in the sky, and people arbitrarily call it a craft.
		I hate that word, vehicle or craft.
		And it just may be a window, a portal.
		We've talked about these kinds of things before.
		Kind of an eyeball projection from another part of the galaxy.
		But there is another race that is observing us, or a group of individuals observing us that look very much like us.
		They're a little bit more heartier build than we are.
		They're sort of squared off, but they do look very much like us.
		However, we suspect and have suspected for quite some time that they're homegrown humans, that they were actually raised on another planet to be a sort of aid group as intermediaries, that they're actually raised on another planet by another race so that we won't get scared all out of the Arthur C. Clarke childhood's idea where the higher race looks like devils and that kind of thing.
		That's what we think about this race.
		Other than that, I don't know of any other humanoid.
		I know some things that look like newts that are really three and a half, four foot high newts that are very high technology.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And he also asked about viewing yourself earlier in life.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I've never done that.
		That's a very neat thing.
		That's why I like to teach.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Usually I assume one proceeds forward to see the future because you already know what went on in the past.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's how I found my fiancé.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I was lonely, and I used RV to find her.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you know?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I did.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I did in the middle.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How did that work?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, I looked at my next mate.
		Ed's next mate.
		That kind of thing.
		I actually didn't use it to find a perfect mate or any of that kind of stuff.
		I just wanted to know what my next mate.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Next one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Who's the next one, huh?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Roger.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Uh-huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And then you would have had to have virtually been able to identify her physically, I guess, and then know where she was and then somehow communicate with her a lot to ask for.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Go there.
		Yeah, go there and find her.
		That's not as difficult as you think for a pro, but my pros know this.
		Many of my students.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Were you at all concerned when you narrowed it down and said, ooh, Ukraine?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, concern.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not Wichita, Ukraine.
unidentified		Right.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Now, remember, I did not...
		Why is this my next mate?
		Did I cause, was I remote viewing something I would have done anyway?
		You get the picture here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I do.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so there are paradoxes out there.
		They're probably not really paradoxes, but I'm blonde, and I can't absorb a lot of information at one time, so I'll just go with the flow.
		And she's kind of beautiful.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Blonde remote viewer.
		First time calling our line.
		You're on the air with the blonde.
unidentified		Hello, Arnold.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, yes.
unidentified		Oh, hi.
unidentified		Congratulations on your new bride.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		Hello.
		I'm new to all this, and I've only been listening to your program for about two months, and I realize I've been missing a lot.
		Major Dames, I have one question.
		I've looked at your website, and I'm going to start saving today to buy your program.
		But my question is, have you ever had a student that's totally bombed out?
		I mean, do you have to have a talent or a gift for what you're teaching?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No, we avail ourselves of a natural innate birthright.
		Everybody has it, and we just take that and turn it into a skill.
		But to answer the first part of your question, yes, I have had two students in 22 years who have I used every tool in my toolbox, and I'm embarrassed to say they were untrainable.
		One of them did not want to be trained.
		He was a produce director in a grocery store.
		His wife demanded that he take my course, so it really wasn't his decision, so I can understand that.
		The other one, there are a couple of other instances where the people were pot smokers, and you can't focus and maintain, you can't focus consciousness when you're on pot.
		You have to clear your system of that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And of course there was Donahue.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Donahue was very eminently trainable, but he's self-destructive because of the ego.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		But he was a very good reviewer.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The remote did go into an interesting direction, didn't he?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		He did.
		But he was a very good student.
		His work was excellent.
		I put him in front of a camera too much, though.
		So his ego exploded.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, anyway, caller.
		So there you have it.
		Yeah, there can be total failures, okay?
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good luck.
		Hope you're not one of them.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air with Ed Dames.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Yeah, I need to talk to him and get him to either call me on the phone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't know if he makes out calls.
unidentified		Well, I want to talk to him about the Holloway case.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I see.
		Well, my advice would be to email him.
		And, Ed, toward that end, why don't you give out an email address directly?
		Why not?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, if you go to my RV forum and you look at my profile, the email is there.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Or you can directly eddames at psy spymaster.com.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wait a minute.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ed Dames at Psy PSI?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Roger.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do it all.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Ed Dames, two Ds.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Ed Dames at SciSpyMaster.com.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And Psi is PSI.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's a romanization of the word.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Psymaster, everybody ought to be able to hear.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Psy is a romanization of the Greek letter P C, which is commonly known in the West and in Europe as being related to parapsychology and paranormal things.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you would declare that the average person or a very high percentage of the average population would be trainable in RV.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So it would be a very small percentage that would be total flops.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Very small.
		Very small indeed.
		And my natural abilities were very average, extremely average.
		It was only by dint of a whole lot of labor was I able to become good at what I do when I wanted to do it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I would think, Ed, that people who fork out money for something like this, I mean, they already sort of passed the first bar.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That means they want to do it.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It's a commitment, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So I would think you'd have a very high success rate.
		You've got people who really want to learn, really want to remote view.
		Otherwise, they wouldn't fork over the bucks.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Right, and I work hard at my job.
		I fail if they don't learn.
		It's the teacher's fault.
		It's not their fault.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you hear from a lot of former students?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		many of the former students have become not only my close friends but the people on my team are my former students the Once again, Major Ed Dames, Ed, welcome back.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Thank you again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anything that we've missed in the show so far before I go back to the lines that you want to get to?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Nothing that I can think of.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I just realized that I've done Easter shows with you, Christmas, New Year's, Halloween, and Father's Day.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's amazing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We've just about run the gamut.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, nine and a half years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Nine and a half years.
		First time caller line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Good morning, gentlemen.
		Major, I wanted to ask you a question.
		You were talking about Osama bin Laden.
		Do you think the military will use your intelligence or your remote viewing and be able to capture him first?
		And a second question, would you be willing to conquer something like finding the lost Ark of the Covenant?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		The second question first, I used my military team under the guise of advanced training to describe the, to research and describe using remote viewing the Ark of the Covenant.
		fascinating project.
		But the reason I would not want to recover, and by the way, it's hidden.
		It's actually hidden.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Still.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Still hidden in Jerusalem.
		It's not in Ethiopia.
		It's in Jerusalem.
		The reason why you would not want to recover it, it would really be a catalyst to World War III.
		I mean, World War III has really started.
		It's a slow burn.
		But this thing is really...
		And to pull it out of its hiding place and expose it and expose its location and its keepers would really catalyze war, I believe.
		And that's the reason I don't want to put an X on that potential.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, Osama.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Osama, oh, he is not my primary target.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		As I've said, my primary target is Mr. Vaseyev, because he purposely targeted children in a terrorist attack.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not the government really wants Osama.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		The CIA will do that.
		They'll use it.
		What did I have?
		And they'll use a cutout.
		Somebody that I know has their own private company and is not directly related to the CIA, and they'll hire me to do that.
		That's how that will go down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wildcard Line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
unidentified		Hey, good morning.
		I tell you, I really enjoy your show.
		Your show really helps me through the night working.
		Now, Major, so I have a question, and hopefully I can have a comment after you give me your answer.
		I am calling from New Orleans, so you can imagine being a victim of Katrina and everything we've been through.
		Earlier I was listening, and there was some mention of, you know, if possible, you can help for this hurricane season.
		Could you give me your answer how?
		You know, some encouragement would really help.
		So if you can tell me, I'd like you to give me that answer, and I'd really have a comment afterwards.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Okay, the answer is per Art's suggestion is where will hurricane actually hit landfall?
		Where will the landfall be?
		And that is something that I and my team can now do quite accurately.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So expect a prediction from Ed as the season progresses, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Your comment?
unidentified		My comment, well, is if hopefully this is true, and I do believe in what you're saying, is that tomorrow morning, Monday morning, you definitely need to contact NOAA, contact the National Hurricane Center, and let them know because we're definitely, you know, we're only less than 70 days away.
		And the last thing we really need right now is another hurricane.
		So, I mean, you know, I appreciate letting me get through, and it's my first time calling.
		I really enjoy your show, but it's something that's really important.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I understand.
		I appreciate your call, sir, from New Orleans.
		That's not going to happen.
		Well, How do you know?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Because once the FAA came to me, their security chief and asked me for help in determining where Abu Nidal would strike next, what kind of device he would make to put on an aircraft and what they should look for and those kinds of things.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		But the problem with working directly for a responsible government agency, responsible to citizens of the United States, is the directors would be fired if they work for me because we're still mixed up with a lot of the governments.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They're not ready for you anyway.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Until you hit a few of the ones you've talked about tonight.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Even then, we won't be used directly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If you began hitting them one after another, the big ones, calling hurricane landfalls, that kind of thing, two or three days out, you'd give their attention real quick.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we've already...
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
unidentified		Yeah, good morning, Ed.
		Good morning, Art.
		Hi.
		My question is, the last time that Ed was on the show, he had talked about a paradox, and I don't remember exactly how it went, but it had something to do with he couldn't tell you where you were going to dinner the next night because if he had told you, then that would not come true.
		Now, you also on that show had talked about he had a terrorist attack that was coming up, and he couldn't tell you anything about it.
		Now, my question is, if you have that paradox and you tell us where the terrorist attack is, can't you prevent the terrorist attack from occurring?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good question.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ed?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yes, because we're not telling the terrorists.
		We're telling somebody else.
		We're telling you.
		And that still deals with the paradox, we think, but we're not sure.
		The paradox, the way it came up was if a remote viewer, remote view where Art was going to eat dinner, assuming that he was going to eat another dinner, that he would be alive, those kinds of preconceived notions, could we tell Art what the data was?
		Well, it turns out that if you have any intention whatsoever as a viewer to leak that information to the subject, then you can't remote view where they're going to eat dinner.
		It's tautological.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But couldn't paradoxes then conceivably be used as preventative measures after the fact?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		You're talking about pure intelligence collection, about knowing something and then stopping it.
		And that's what we do.
		I mean, that's our job.
		What I'm saying is that when you're providing information to an individual about their future, then it's as if you can't get the information to begin with if you intend upon providing that information to the individual.
		That's the kind of thing we're saying.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's hard to understand.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's already, well, that's why they call it a paradox, I guess.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wells to the Rockies.
		You're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
		Hello, Ed.
		Hey, Art, you had said something earlier about did Ed have any moral issues with using remote viewing for gain, right?
		But I have two questions on those lines.
		One is, don't you see using your remote viewing skills to find children as a way of getting personal gain?
		And second, on your website, I got to your LearnRV website through AaronCdonahue.com.
		And don't you see that as a way of some sort of moral obligation to Aaron, since a lot of your information is similar to his from the shows he's done in the past from 2003 forward?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, Ed?
		Well, I don't know where to start here.
		Do you want to start with Aaron or what?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		If the question could be more discreet and concise, then I'd be able to answer it.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's pretty concise when he says, do you use finding children as a means to, well, you know.
		It means money.
		If you find children, you're going to make money.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		There's an easy way to answer that.
		My time would be much better spent economically to find treasure and to go bounty hunting.
		I have a member of my team who's armed.
		He wants to jump in at the pit to go after a few of the big names with big money.
		And my team is not always happy.
		We don't make any money by going after kids.
		We use our own funds, mostly my funds.
		My team members are volunteers.
		The fact that we do that and, well, it's just like John Walsh.
		Does John Walsh make money by using America's Most Wanted to do what he does?
unidentified		Yes, he does.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Why did he start it?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, he started it because Adam, his child, was killed, murdered, and decapitated.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		So ethically speaking, I feel a responsibility to, and as a father, I feel a responsibility to go out there and bring some degree of closure to grief-stricken parents.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Whether or not that makes money is totally irrelevant to me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, money, it would, I think, be incorrect to say money is totally irrelevant to me.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I said whether or not that particular act makes money is totally irrelevant to me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, but in the big picture, obviously, if you start nailing it, whether it's children or anything else, the money will come.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Of course, just like John Walsh gets paid quite well for it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm not criticizing.
		I'm just saying that it's a fact.
		International Line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
		Hello.
unidentified		Good evening, Ed and Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, good evening.
unidentified		I think you have a hit.
		You made a prediction about rust in wheat in Africa.
		On CBC Radio a couple months back, they had a Canadian grain scientist who took Canadian cultivars over to Africa where there is a rust outbreak.
		And our cultivars cannot stand this new rust variety.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		Yep.
unidentified		And I'm pretty sure Ed made that prediction about a year ago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I seem to recall, Ed?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we're talking about a mutation of Claviceps paporia, which the royal fungus.
		That's how it translates into Latin, the royal fungus.
		There's a mutation that occurs there, and that is a remote viewers have looked over the horizon and seen that that's an extremely damaging fungi.
		And that it floats over on trade winds to South America and it moves up into North America eventually and ravages wheat crops.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Just like the killer bees.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Just like the killer bees.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Faster.
		Much faster.
		Yeah, because the killer bees are not carried on the wind.
		And they need a lot more life support than fungi with spores, fungal spores.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, he thinks you've got a hit there.
		Would you agree with that, Ed?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I'd have to study exactly the species and what's going on there to match it with our data and say whether it's a hit or not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you keep records, careful records of hits versus now known misses or what?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No, I keep archives of all the projects, and then my team and I, especially my partner, Brent Miller, sit down and brainstorm and go over what we did right, what we did wrong, and how to improve things.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		That's why we do that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		First time caller line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Good morning.
		How are you?
		My name is Bobblehead from Downingtown.
		Okay.
		Pennsylvania.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Yeah, I had a question for this guy.
		I don't know if I really like him.
		He won't tell us how exactly it works and if it's a spiritual thing.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It's okay that you don't like me.
		That's fine.
		It's not a spiritual thing.
		I'm telling you over and over again.
		There is nothing spiritual about remote viewing.
		It is a mind tool as much as learning mathematics or number theory or something else like that.
		Period.
		Spiritual stuff is...
		That's what you...
		You can't...
		There's no way to communicate.
		There is no way to communicate spiritual experiences to another human being because spiritual experiences are not in the mind.
unidentified		I don't know.
unidentified		I mean, how do you know that?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Try it.
		You tell me about your experiences and try to get me to understand that.
		Because you can't understand it.
unidentified		I've definitely had a lot of experience, and it's not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but make him understand it, is what he's saying.
unidentified		Okay, well, over the last year, I had an instance where I stayed in a graveyard for four days without sleeping or eating, and I was in touch with a lot of spirits.
unidentified		Well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I bet you were.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're probably hallucinating your tail end off by the third day.
unidentified		No, I'm not.
		I spent a week and a half in a mental hospital, too.
		It was over Christmas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why rest my case?
unidentified		Well, no, there's nothing wrong with me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well.
unidentified		I mean, I'm perfectly normal.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, then why spend all that time in a mental hospital?
unidentified		Well, because my parents wanted to make sure I was all right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's so they were concerned.
unidentified		Well, yeah, they were concerned because I was over Christmas holiday.
		I wasn't home.
		I went from work and I ended up staying there.
		But actually, there's a story behind that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, I'll forego that story.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ed, any further comments to add to the end of that call?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		The caller brings up a really important point, regardless of other things.
		The point, again, is remote viewing is a mind tool.
		It's just as much a mind tool as even though it uses a modality that's not very comfortable because we don't understand consciousness and we only have working hypotheses about how we're doing what we do.
		It's still in the mind.
		When you drop down into core, your essence, that thing that's harvested when you die, the only thing that's left that leads, that's spiritual.
		That's the spirit.
		And what that does is...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But I'm not sure, and I challenged this earlier.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		and I do again, that there's not, that you're not rubbing up right against the spiritual aspect of our spirituality.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Maybe you're right.
		Maybe you're right.
		I don't know.
		I've been in this business for 22 years, and I do not know.
		I'm a mechanic.
		I'm a technician.
		I'm an applicant.
		I don't write books.
		I go out in the field and put this to use where the rubber meets the road.
		I don't talk about the philosophy of remoteism, all of that.
		That's what I do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Yeah, hi, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		CQDE, KBA, W-U-P, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		My question for Ed is, have you ever tried to remote view the Caddy assassination?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes, yes, absolutely.
		Years ago.
		Unfortunately, I did not believe at the time.
		I absolutely did not buy into the idea that there was a conspiracy.
		And I had Mel Riley, one of the team members, when I hired him after I retired from the military, I hired Mel Riley as one of my employees.
		I had him remote view the Kennedy assassination, thinking that it's just going to be some wild card with a high-caliber weapon.
		And that was not the case.
		It was a conspiracy.
		There was a flashette that was fired from the, that actually was remotely fired from the dashboard of the car that that man was in and went through his Adam's apple.
		And I was so shocked.
		For two days, I was beside myself.
		I just could not believe that an element within my own country would take out the President of the United States.
		I was extremely upset.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's hard to swallow, isn't it?
unidentified		It's very hard to swallow.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		So.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		East of the Rockies, good morning.
		You're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I can barely hear you, dear, so you're going to have to yell at us.
unidentified		Okay.
		Hi, Art.
		Good morning, Art.
		Good morning, Major Deans.
		This is Michelle in Chicago, and I had a quick question, actually, too, if I could.
		But the question I was really wondering about is during or maybe before, after the killshot event, are there going to be like, you know, people described favorite cities forming or people coming together during the kids?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No, no.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Let's go in and see after a series of these kill shots, these solar flares, there's going to be a Mad Max scenario first for quite a while.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, during that last break, it snapped back.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ed, you weren't messing with McClock, were you?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Negative.
		We just did that once.
		That's all we needed to do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, mess with the clock once, mess with the clock twice, from my point of view.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, East of the Rockies, you're back on, and you were asking about something near and fear to my heart, the kill shot.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I want to know, too.
		Ed, many of my friends, many of acquaintances have heard about the kill shot, and it scares the hell out of them.
		Is it still on?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It's on more than ever.
		Look at the recent announcements by NOAA.
		Solar physicists realize that the sun is acting in a way that is totally unpredictable, in a way that they could have never predicted or even described.
		And all you have to do is monitor the news, and you see that they're extremely concerned.
		And the most recent announcement two weeks ago was expect the worst.
		They don't know what the worst is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I have been seeing those stories, Ed.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the story is that the likelihood that single eventual latch ups, that satellites will be put out of commission and that grids will go down are much higher than they've ever expected based upon studying the interior of the sun.
		And they do not know what is going on.
		This is supposed to be a solar minimum.
		That's the power of remote viewing this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Caller, does that answer your question?
unidentified		Yeah, actually, I had a second question, a very quick part of it.
		That kind of relates very well.
		I suppose it's something that stood out in my mind a lot that Ed was speaking about a couple years back.
		It was about regards to the kill shot where I don't know if it was a remote viewing description, but it just really stands out in my mind.
		But it's just a description of looking up in the sky, and something happens, I guess there's a lot of fighting.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Three warring parties, remote viewers in the description, three warring parties on the ground fighting, and then all of a sudden everybody looks up in the sky and sees a physical thing.
		This is not an allegorical picture.
		They see something physical in the sky, and it's so impactful that they forget about the fighting and go home to their families.
		Their priorities change by something in the sky, physically in the sky, in the atmosphere.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you still stand by that occurrence?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes, yes.
		What I think is happening is what, and this is my best guess about what that is, is that there is an effect because of a solar storm, because of very extreme X-ray activity, very extreme proton flares, that something happens in Earth's atmosphere that is unprecedented, that we've never seen before.
		And it would be the equivalent of combining for the first time, let's say, two elements or two gases and then creating a whole new state of matter that nobody's ever seen before.
		It's something like that.
		The physics don't exist to describe what they will see in the air.
		Because remote viewers can't describe it.
		It's something like a mass or a flowing mass in the atmosphere, but it's really spooky and scary.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, maybe you're getting closer to the spiritual world by the minute.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Mr. Spiritual.
unidentified		Hello, my name is Kurt.
		I'm from Phoenix.
		I've listened to him on the air for all the nine years he's been on, and to this day, you have not come up with one darn thing that has been predicted or whatever that I remember, anything of value.
		Maybe a frog in a pond or a bird in a tree, maybe.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, that's not a problem.
		Hold on.
		That's not fair.
		He did predict troubles, big troubles.
unidentified		What about 9-11?
		I mean, you got these people up on the air in 9-11, all these people dying in two buildings, and this man could not figure that out because he has all this capability.
		What's up with these people up there?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let them answer.
		Hold it.
		Let him answer.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Okay, two things.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		As an example, let's use...
unidentified		You've got to target an airplane.
		You've got to target two buildings in New York.
		And then you're up on the air saying you've got all this.
		Okay, now that you can pinpoint things, tomorrow I expect to know where Bin Laden is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where who is?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where who is, Color?
unidentified		Huh?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You said you expect to know where who is?
unidentified		Bin Laden, tomorrow.
		Obviously, he can pinpoint things now.
		Okay, tomorrow he should call the authorities and say, okay, Bin Laden is here.
		And then they'll go get him.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't disagree with that at all, Ed.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, what do I do with this child murderer?
		Leave him on the streets?
		You want to kill again?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, the caller was right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If you called the government, someone in the government said, Osama bin Laden is here, and you hit it, that would be a good one.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		how do they know that I'm going to hit it?
		The last time I...
		48 hours after 9-11, we delivered extremely detailed maps of the command post where that particular attack was planned.
		I wanted to know who funded, who paid for that attack and where the command post was.
		Special Forces was in that underground bunker complex two weeks later because that's how long it took them to get there.
		Osama bilan had already left.
		But that's an example of the work that we do for the commander.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And to be fair, look, remote viewers are not like psychics.
		They don't just have things arbitrarily come to them.
		And so, yes, you do have to target, which is what Ed started to say, you do have to target something specific, like an airplane or an act or somebody who would have something to do with what was about to happen.
		It's not a psychic kind of epiphany thing that Ed does.
		Is that fair, Ed?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		You have to tune your mental radio to a specific station.
		You have to know the next catastrophe or next catastrophic terrorist attack with massive loss of life, let's say in Indonesia or something like that.
		You have to actually focus on a specific area or topic, information, a pattern of information, and then pull that out.
		We're not psychics that stick our antenna up in the air and receive a zillion different radio signals at once and pick up the rules.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, but a lot of people confuse you with psychics.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I understand.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They just do, and that obviously was one who did.
		First time caller lines.
		You're on the air with Ed Dames.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, hello.
unidentified		This is Jeff from Senator, Illinois.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		I've seen remote viewing on Discovery Channel years past.
unidentified		They found such things as special operatives undercover, taken hostage, a continent away.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, there's no question about it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know.
unidentified		Targeted specific buildings they were in.
		I've never heard this guest on the program before.
		I was just wondering something maybe in U.S. News and World Report, Time Magazine, something that he's predicted that I could recognize.
		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Your greatest success, Ed?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Mine or the unit's either one.
		There's a number of operations in the unit that will never be made public because it gives away operatives.
		But I think, let me give you one of my favorite.
		It's one of my favorite.
		And it's attributable really to Mel Riley and to Joe McMonacle.
		We could not figure out how a certain KGB agent, we knew he was KGB, but we needed the goods on this guy, operating out of a certain country's embassy, how he was communicating with Moscow.
		We couldn't figure it out.
		The CIA couldn't do it.
		So they gave the task to the remote viewing unit, to the Sci-Spy unit.
		Mel Riley and Joe McMonagall pinpointed a calculator, sketched a calculator.
		Now, they've never seen, they knew nothing about this agent.
		They were given this target blind.
		They both described a calculator that was being used to communicate to Moscow.
		Long story short, there was a radio hidden in this calculator, and that's how the codes were being transmitted to Moscow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, we can't, of course, confirm that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What about your personal, I don't know if predictions are the right thing?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I think one of my favorite is, and this was only two remote viewing systems by myself, not my team, and that was Egypt Air Flight 990, when I said that there was an altercation in the cabin.
		There was actually fist cups going on.
		And that's what brought that plane down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I recognize that.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And everybody laughed at me.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And even you said, Ed, you're sticking your neck out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I remember.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And I said, when that voice recorder is found at the bottom of the ocean, it's like, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yep, okay.
		I remember.
		Wildcard Line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
		God bless you.
		Major Dames, I have a question.
		It's not so much about politics, but more about science.
		Because whenever we find, for example, something like another creature other than our own species able to communicate in a sophisticated way, this is a thing of interest, and it adds to our understanding of the diversity and beauty, as well as just our understanding about the universe.
		And when I was 15, I discovered a kind of communication in yellow jackets in which one of them knows where the nest is, but the other ones don't because the nest has been illuminated at night by artificial light or it's been moved by the experimenter or something like this.
		And they're all searching for it.
		And then one finds it, and then she needs to tell the other ones where it is.
		And the method that they use, there are two possible interpretations of what I saw.
		And there's an ambiguity between the two.
		And I want to see if you have the insight, either with or without remote viewing, to figure out which of these two possibilities is the real one.
		I can't find out because this species is almost extinct.
		It's been by a European one that's been introduced here.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		You're talking about the actual transmission of information, that that modality is.
unidentified		I'll tell you what actually has.
unidentified		It's a visual modality, but the way it works.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Excuse me, sir.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		You think it's a visual modality, but you really don't know.
unidentified		Well, let me tell you what I was able to ascertain that's invariant in both interpretations.
unidentified		Then I'll tell you the difference between the two interpretations and see if you can tell me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Just go ahead and do it, sir.
unidentified		Okay.
		Let's say I wanted to show you where something is, but I couldn't point because I was in an airplane.
		I'm a pilot, and I want to show you as another pilot where the missing airport is.
		I could fly in a circle around it and take you in tow.
		And then you could look at the part of your screen that isn't blurring, that isn't moving.
		And that would be the center of the circle that I'm circling.
		So if I intentionally circle the target, I've shown you where the target is, and I don't have to take you in tow for very long to show you that.
		And then having shown you, I am then free to show someone else, and so are you, because we now both have the information.
		Now, in the case of these yellow jackets, they're not clever enough when they see one taking another one in tow to know where it was.
		They actually have to be taken in tow to get the information.
		And they probably do it by looking at the part of their screen that isn't moving at the moment.
		They don't actually go in a circle, but a figure eight on the surface of a sphere, which does the same thing for three-dimensional environments.
		Now, the question is, does one, two of them are only being informed at a time while the other ones are waiting their turn.
		And the question is, does one yellow jacket take all the other ones in tow, each in turn, to show them where the nest is?
		Or does one show the other one, then go into the nest, and then let the best.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ed, how would you answer that?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I would set the problem.
		We take the question, the problem set, and what we do is all remote viewers and students know this.
		We have to engineer a cue, a matrix search term, just like you would engineer an internet database search.
		So we take that problem set and we turn that into a search term that collective unconscious can recognize.
		And sometimes it's several different search terms.
		We turn this into a problem set and we research how that particular communication is being affected.
		But it's important that the caller realize that we do not use preconceived notions.
		In this case, he was talking about visuals because after all, it's an unknown.
		We're solving for an unknown.
		So we go into a problem set like this clean.
		We want to first re-establish, recreate how one insect is communicating with one or more.
		And it may or may not be visuals, or it may be a complex of things.
		So that's what we have to do first.
		And then by doing that, we produce what's called a site template or an idea template.
		And this is a sketch, a schematic diagram of all the essential elements of information in the problem and in the solution.
		And the next step is analysis.
		We have to be able to identify each one of those things in the diagram and know what's going on.
		I'll give you another example, too.
		Let's say that we want to know how telepathy works, or let's say healing.
		Suppose there's a healer who heals a bunch of people in a room.
		Well, a remote viewer might be interested in the mechanics and the dynamics of how that process happened.
		The healer, his or herself, may not understand how they're doing it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Or even care.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		But we can model what is going on.
		And by the time we get to this template, this diagram of all the things that are going on during that particular event, we're looking for things we don't recognize.
		We've sketched the people in the room, we've sketched the so-called healer, we've sketched the room itself and all that.
		But we're looking for diagrams that are unknowns.
		And that's what we research.
		What are these?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Got it.
		East of the Rockies, you're on there with Major Ed Dames.
		Hello?
unidentified		Hello?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, hi.
unidentified		Oh, hi.
		It beeped when you said East of the Rockies.
		My question real quick was, assuming that remote viewing is actually real, and I'm not saying it is or not, is there the possibility or has it been used for evil such as stalking other people and that sort of thing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a good question, actually.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, let's see.
		I tried to kill Muamar Gaddafi, my military team and I. I think some people would call that evil.
		We were trying our best to kill him.
		In fact, we got evil.
unidentified		No, no, no, I mean, just, you know, the general Jablo population, say you got someone that's interested in a girl or a guy.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		You know, I don't know.
		I don't teach ethics.
		I teach remote viewing.
		I'm helping out on a movie called the ESP Affair.
		And in fact, I just did the entire trailer.
		And that actually has that theme where a rogue member, a former member of a military team, is kicked off the team.
		And he uses his remote viewing power and his remote influence power to attempt to seduce a civilian female.
unidentified		Scary thought.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		But can it be done?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm curious why you're asking, Caller.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you feel so affected?
unidentified		No, no, no.
unidentified		It was just a question because in this age of Big Brother is watching you and microchips and everything, I got to thinking, well, if you can just go and remote view a target, who's to say that target could not be a person?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Of course it can.
unidentified		I mean, you have no business viewing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And who's to say there could not be remote influence?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A more serious matter to consider, indeed.
unidentified		Very true.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much for the call.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It's a brave new world.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		West of the Rockies, you might be the last caller for Major Ed Dames.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
		This is Mike Culling from Auburn, Washington.
		Hello, Major Dames.
		Hi.
		Yes, I had a question for you.
		You had mentioned last summer on this program that you had remote-viewed some type of new humanoids that were some kind of hybrids of humans that were probably being experimented with by a lot of these abductions, that kind of thing, and that they would show up after the kill shot to help with the reconstruction of this planet.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		That's not what I said.
		I said that after this Mad Max scenario that succeeds the kill shots, there would be another race that actually lands, and they do look like us, but I did not connect them with any dots that dealt with hybrids or things like that.
		I said, perhaps.
		I said, what I think these are are not hi.
		I didn't say hybrids.
		I said that they looked like they were raised off-planet.
		You might assume they're hybrids, but these look like humans that were actually raised somewhere else and are used to facilitate repair, damage, reconstruction on our planet after the Mad Max scenario is over.
unidentified		And would they be coexisting with us humans while they're doing this?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No.
		Not now, but later, yes.
		They'll be here with us.
unidentified		Will we actually be, say, interbreeding and marrying with these humans?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, they'll have to hold it right there.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No, no.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Haven't gone that far.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No interbreeding and marrying.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		We have not gone that far that far.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		It's been a fascinating night, as always, Ed, and we will have you back.
		Perhaps you'll be the guest in Ukraine, and I'll be the host in Manila.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No, perhaps about it.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		That's what we'll do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wouldn't that be something?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we'll do it.
		And I wish you and your bride all good things.
		I'm very happy for you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right back at you, buddy.

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