Major Ed Dames, a retired CIA/DIA remote viewer, warns of a 2005 nuclear strike in Korea and a "kill shot"—a planetoid passing near Earth, triggering solar flares and 200–300 mph winds for weeks. He ties this to the 1994 Zimbabwe incident, where children claimed telepathic warnings from extraterrestrials about Earth’s doom, backed by John Mack’s film evidence. Dames’ Project Starman seeks contact with this "higher intelligence," using GPS-accurate remote viewing techniques he’ll demonstrate in December. Skeptics like Art Bell question credibility, but Dames insists the threat is real, citing observable climate shifts and quantum physics’ growing alignment with remote viewing. Survival hinges on isolation and preparation, not metaphysical escape, as humanity faces potential collapse. [Automatically generated summary]
I view you all good evening, good morning, good afternoon, wherever you may be in the world's Pali time zone, however many may be the covered quite thoroughly, one way or the other, by this program post-post AMI market by reminding you that life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body,
but rather hidden broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, Wow!
What a ride!
Right?
We don't know who said that, but it just seems to fit ever so well.
Well, actually, not that good, according to the, you know, the surveys done by Nielsen or whoever rates that kind of thing.
But debates we did have, if you call them that.
And so I'm going to talk all about that for a reason that will be incredibly obvious in a moment.
First, though, I want to wish my wife, my beautiful wife, Ramona, happy birthday, hon. It's her birthday today, and a special day, and she's got some family visiting, and it was just pretty cool.
Cool day.
Lovely wife of how many years.
The webcam photograph up there tonight is an interesting one.
You remember, or maybe you don't, ABC was here, ABC Network Television, and they came back.
They came back for a second visit and more high-definition photography.
This was pretty cool, actually.
They went out, if you can imagine this, the ABC crew went out into the field up adjacent from my house and photographed the house for a special reason, actually for the opening of this ABC documentary.
It should be really cool.
I can't divulge just how cool it'll be, they've told me, but it's going to be a special on UFOs coming up in either February or March.
They're about to get their air date.
And so I snuck around a long way, went up into the field, about an eighth of a mile from my house, actually, and took a photograph of them taking a photograph of my house.
And so that's up on the webcam.
That happened on Thursday.
So that kept us busy for a while.
Anytime they're around, they're quite a group, let me tell you.
Anyway, don't forget about that special.
See, I can't remind you of exactly when it is, sometime in February or March.
We have two-hour special with Peter Jennings on UFOs, a serious look at ufology.
And I must say, they've done a wonderful job.
They've shot about 90 hours of video so far in high definition.
And it should be serious and real.
So this is one you're going to want to catch when it comes around.
Now, the debates.
How many of you saw the debates?
Well, of those of you that did, I wonder if you share with me the thought that, my God, they were scripted.
And of course, this is because it was choreographed in sort of a collective bargaining session between the right and the left, the Democrats and the Republicans, about what they could and couldn't do, and they couldn't do most things.
So I guess you'll call them debates if you wish.
Whatever happened to the League of Women Voters anyway?
Didn't they used to set that up since I was a child?
I remember that League of Women Voters.
And now somehow it's passed from their hands into the hands of the respective political parties, which don't have a whole lot of interest in anything really spirited.
Not either one of them.
They want to keep any possibility of a goof to a minimum for each candidate, and that results in pure PAP as far as I'm concerned.
And then there was the audience.
Did anybody out here notice that the audience, they must have scared the holy hell out of those people because there wasn't so much as a chuckle, a groan, a cough.
Even the people who were asking the questions looked scared to death.
I wonder if they had them in for psychological observation or something, you know, about whether they might go crazy and ask a real question.
Something like that.
You know, make sure they weren't the type of person prone to, you know, going off on their own and asking something unscripted.
God forbid something unscripted should have happened in the debates.
Anyway, my candidate, I'm a libertarian, in case you didn't know.
I'm an official member of the Libertarian Party.
I have been for, I don't know, 12 years or something.
My candidate, well, he was there.
He was at the debates.
The trouble is, though, that my candidate got arrested.
Michael Bednerick got arrested.
He went to the debates and he got arrested.
And so in a moment, he's on his way from some kind of function, you know, trying to get to a telephone.
So in a moment, if I can raise him, no guarantees of that, but if I can raise him, we're going to get him here on the air and we're going to talk a little bit about why he ends up in Handcuffs while the, well, if you want to call it debate, goes on inside.
unidentified
The End Well, this is a very interesting situation.
They don't know what hotel you're in, so I guess you're safe, but it got on the air because I was literally calling you as I came back on the air here.
So, you know, you're my candidate.
I'm a libertarian.
You know that.
I do.
unidentified
And you went to the debates, and you got arrested.
Well, we have a lawsuit that we filed in Arizona, basically challenging the fact that they're using public money and public college and keeping the libertarians out.
And what we were trying to do was to serve the committee with papers to basically inform them of that, basically acting as a process server.
And we were attempting to serve those papers in St. Louis during the debate.
And it was a pre-planned event.
And we knew that we were going to have a little bit of resistance as we crossed the line.
We did so non-violently and non-threateningly.
And they promptly handcuffed us and took us into custody.
In fact, based on the way this was all being rehearsed with the police and the sheriff ahead of time, I'd suspect that this was going to be kind of some remote corner away from all of the pomp and circumstance.
And that it would be just kind of a ritual.
They would shake their finger at us and tell us not to cross the line, and we would stick out our tongues and do it anyway.
But when it finally came down to it, we were actually confronted by the riot police there.
I don't know what I'm going to be doing in December.
And so, you know, the cost of traveling to St. Louis, it'll be more of a practical matter of whether I feel that I want to pursue that for more publicity or not.
Well, let me tell you, as far as debates go, it was somewhat more entertaining than the first one, but no less scripted.
And when I say scripted, for example, Michael, I listened to the audience, and all I can think of is that somebody there threatened these people with the death of their relatives if they would laugh or make any noise whatsoever.
I've never heard peep out of the audience during the whole, both debates, not a peep.
And so, you know, that's just sort of part of it.
I mean, they were so scripted.
I mean, this time, I was asking the audience sort of rhetorically, you know, what the hell happened to the League of Women Voters that used to run these things.
And now, what, both parties got control of it and they decide how it's going to go?
unidentified
That's correct.
That's correct.
And that was what the point of our lawsuit in Arizona was, that they are using taxpayer money.
They're using a publicly funded college.
And, you know, this whole thing is basically an infomercial.
I'm not sure why they still go through the pomp of actually having one.
Apparently, there are still some people in the United States who believe that it actually means something.
Well, I like to point out that Henry Ford once said that you can have your car painted any color you want as long as it's black, which is not a legitimate choice.
Now the Democrats and Republicans are trying to convince us that you can have any president you want as long as it's Bush or Kerry.
It doesn't seem like, I mean, what's the basis then of your lawsuit?
You're saying that because public money was used, it's what, state money?
unidentified
Yes, I mean, they were using a it's going to be at the University of Arizona, and it is a, which is a public college, government-funded college, and that I mean, I haven't had the time to actually read the I would think just basically that if public money is involved, then it's not any sort of private affair at all.
Well, listen, a lot of people who thought they were not under threat, you know, just because your name's out there, you can believe me, you can be under threat.
Look at the John Lennons and all the rest of that.
So it can happen.
But some protection is better than none.
On how many states' ballots would your name be?
unidentified
The Libertarian Party will be on 48 states, Washington, D.C. Oh, my God.
Well, I would have won those debates because the Libertarian platform is based on the Constitution, individual rights, and private property, whereas the Democrats and Republicans have platforms which are utterly indefensible.
When we have invited them to our debates, we have sent those invitations certified or maybe registered.
But we've gotten some physical evidence back that they have received the invitations, but they haven't even deigned to call us to acknowledge that they've gotten - you know, they haven't even taken the time to make up an excuse that they're busy washing their hair.
So I suppose when you get the no, then you go to the media.
Don't you?
I mean, you go to the meeting and say, look, I'm on the ballot in 48 states in Washington, D.C., for God's sakes.
I ought to be part of the debates.
unidentified
I have been challenging George Bush and John Kerry to debates for the last three months.
Every time I've had an opportunity, either on television or on radio, and even in print, I formally challenge them based on one of two possibilities.
Either I am a small, insignificant third party, and I couldn't possibly be any trouble to them, and they should allow me in just based on freedom of speech.
Or possibly they are terrified that the libertarian platform would resonate with Americans and that a significant percentage of people would vote libertarian and thus crush the stranglehold that the Democrats and Republicans currently have on America.
Any candidate who is on the ballot in enough states to mathematically achieve the White House, even potentially, deserves an automatic slot at the presidential debate.
I mean, to me, it's absolutely arrested, for God's sakes.
Hold on, Michael.
We're going to take the bottom of the hour break.
Michael Vednerick, who is the Libertarian Party candidate for the presidency of the United States, I guess he just got bailed out, so that's how he's able to be with us tonight, because he got arrested.
It would be absolute political heresy to have somebody in there who might present ideas and questions that could capture the imagination and the fire of the American public.
And so instead of allowing such, why, they arrested this candidate, 48 states, he's on the ballot in 48 states in Washington, D.C., and they arrested him.
Did they take you to a police station or what?
unidentified
Absolutely.
We were put into a van, handcuffed and put into a van.
And they were getting ready to transport us to the police station when five college students were walking home.
And the same way they go home every other time and didn't realize that they had stumbled into a zone.
And so they arrested three young men and two young ladies.
And so we were there for about an additional hour and a half.
So it was from 8 o'clock when we crossed the line, and they finally released us back onto the street at 12.01, just after midnight.
I mean, if I could participate in the debate against George Bush and John Kerry, you could take my birthday and Christmas the rest of my life because I would be able to die a happy man.
However, realistically, we anticipate that George Bush and or John Kerry would refuse to participate in the debate rather than allow me to unsettle give me that little Christmas present.
They would probably cancel the debates.
However, we would also be happy with the publicity of that.
You know, I would be walking around proudly bragging that George Bush and John Kerry were afraid of me.
I mean, if they actually are forced into either, you know, including you or canceling the debate and they have to cancel the debate, then you'd get plenty of press, wouldn't you?
He has his own plan and says that if he's elected, why, it'll all happen faster and then we'll get home faster.
And that's sort of a nutshell presentation.
unidentified
Train more Iraq.
If anybody is interested, the libertarian presidential candidate, namely me, would bring our sons and daughters home as safely and quickly as possible.
And that way we could eliminate any additional American fatalities.
Well, and I may have personal opinions as to why we might be there, but I would never be pretentious enough to project ideas or words into other people's mouths.
But clearly, they are not a clear and present danger to us.
In fact, I don't know any country around the world which is an imminent danger to the United States.
And I think that we ought to have an exit strategy for Germany, Japan, and Korea.
Those wars have been over for over 50 years.
The Constitution allows us to do national defense.
It does not give us the authority to do international offense.
So you would withdraw the majority of American foreign-based troops.
unidentified
Yes.
I mean, it's not our job to be doing national defense for other people.
I mean, Germany and Japan, you know, their economies should be sufficiently strong now after World War II that they should be doing their own national defense.
And, you know, if these countries are doing trade back and forth with each other and they're not threatening each other, then you don't need a lot of national defense.
Well, to a lot of us out here, once there was no apparent clear and present danger, they did make the point that there was no connection to 9-11.
And so then there isn't any clear and present danger.
And so the reason for this whole war, I mean, American men and women dying, it seems so unclear to me and so important that we have a reason to risk our young people's lives.
And I didn't see it before the war, and I don't see it now, unless there's an unstated reason that you could think of.
unidentified
Well, if you're going to go to war, it's not acceptable to have an unstated reason.
And Congress has an obligation under Article 1, Section 8, Clause 11 to state that reason and declare the war.
How would Michael Bednarik, were he to become president, what would you do with regard to terrorism?
Now, 9-11, of course, was painfully, very real.
And so there are people who wish to kill us.
And that would be a legitimate defense, certainly, but I wonder how you'd handle it.
Have you given that any thought?
Excuse me.
I'm sure you're doing a lot of talking.
unidentified
Yeah.
We have to realize that most of these people hate us because we're there bombing buildings and killing innocent civilians.
I mean, it's not because they're jealous of our wealth and freedoms.
I mean, that's a ridiculous statement.
If you have a hornet's nest on your property, there is always a small but finite chance that you'll be stung by a hornet.
On the other hand, if you go out with a baseball bat and you start beating on this hornet's nest in an effort to kill hornets, is your chance of being stung going to increase or decrease?
Well, I mean, you know, if you don't have electricity or something, maybe you do feel that way, but it's really just nasty over there.
I mean, nasty, nasty, nasty.
Even the UN's afraid to be there.
It's just a very hostile place that we are now occupying, and we might have to do it, I hear, for 10 years.
unidentified
And we're not doing a very good job of it.
We have almost no control of Fallujah, and even Baghdad, which is supposed to be the capital city, is not clearly in American hands.
So, I mean, really, the only other choice that we would have would be to go in there with far more troops, kill everybody in Iraq, and that way we could safely say that nobody in Iraq hates us anymore.
And then Senator Kerry, I think, brought up to the President a couple of times that we had Osama bin Laden trapped, and then we turned the job over to militias in Afghanistan, and we never got them.
And so you'd concentrate your efforts there on getting Osama and those around him.
unidentified
Well, absolutely.
Those are the people who perpetrated the crime, and if they are guilty, we should bring them to justice and make them pay for it.
You know, put them in jail so that they are no longer a threat.
But, I mean, to put this on a more personal level, if your brother punches me in the nose, that doesn't give me the right to come and give you a fat lip.
Which, in your estimation, would be one of disengagement.
unidentified
Absolutely.
Non-interventionism, as libertarians prefer to call it.
We want to follow the advice that George Washington gave us during his farewell address when he said that we should have economic ties with all countries and entangling alliances with none.
In other words, we should open up our markets to other countries, sell them goods, which is going to improve our economy.
It's going to raise their standard of living.
And when we're giving them food and cell phones, they're going to be far less likely to blow up our buildings.
Now, the other half of the debate, we have so little time, was basically on domestic policy.
And there were criticisms from the Kerry camp of current economic policy and the size of the current deficit in debt that we have as a nation.
I mean, we were pretty well debt-free here not very many years ago.
Now, all of a sudden, oh my God, it's trillions of dollars.
unidentified
Yes.
And, I mean, every one of us, and in fact, even our young people, when they move away from home and get their own apartment, one of the first rules they learn is that you can't spend more money than you make.
You know how much money you've got coming in, and you write a budget, meaning you pay for the rent, your phone calls, and other necessities, and then whatever you have left over, you can spend on beer and pizza.
Well, when Congress writes a budget, they promptly spend $700 billion more than they planned.
I mean, that's not a budget.
I mean, why bother putting it down on paper if you're going to miss over half a trillion dollars?
And there was an article recently, just last week in the USA Today, front-page story, that said that the average American family has about $80,000 in personal debt and that their share of the national debt is $473,000.
Indeed, so, you know, I let the music go because it sets the mood for me, and I'm sure for a lot of other people, too.
I mean, this is just the right music for Major Ed Dames.
Period.
And what that means, among other things, is that this is my instruction to you to, if you're going to be upset by dire predictions, they don't call him what they call him for nothing.
And it's going to be rough.
I mean, what can I tell you?
It's liable.
What you're going to hear is going to be rough.
So if you're going to be upset by it or you have children in the room, shoe them out.
It's their bedtime.
They don't need to hear what we may be about to hear.
Doctor Doom is for a reason.
It's some pretty rough predictions.
I mean, it's just the way it is.
And so if you're upset by this kind of thing, tune out.
You know, turn off the radio.
Go watch some television or something else.
This will challenge you.
I guarantee what you're about to hear is going to challenge you.
I know who Ed Dames is.
A lot of you know who he is.
And a lot of you may not.
He's a remote viewer.
He was in the U.S. government's CIA's remote viewing program.
I know.
I read his whole military record.
He's exactly what he says he is.
That's exactly what he did.
It was in the official military record.
It took a while.
It was a big one.
Big fat military record.
So he really did this for the CIA.
But, you know, a lot of what he's going to say, I'm telling you, it's going to upset you.
The world's foremost remote viewing teacher, Major Edward A. Dames, U.S. Army retired now, is a decorated military intelligence officer, an original member of the U.S. Army Prototype Remote Viewing Training Program, served as the training and operations officer for the DIA, the Defense Intelligence Agency Psychic Intelligence Collection Unit.
He currently serves as executive director for the Matrix Intelligence Agency, a private consulting group.
And is a technical consultant for the feature film Suspect Zero.
Done a lot of previews about that lately, by the way, and plays the role of an FBI remote viewing instructor in the movie as well.
There is nobody that I have on this program that gets more love and hate mail, email, than Major Ed Dames.
When I have him scheduled to come on the air, I will get, oh, I don't know, hundreds of emails saying, What?
You're going to have that fraud on again?
And others who will say, he is by far my favorite guest that you have.
There's no in-between.
There's no, oh, Major Ed Dames again, or anything like that.
There's only those two polar opposite reactions, and they come in volumes, tons of them.
he is the most loved and he did guest i have on the air and he'll be here in a moment the
Oh, by the way, you can fast blast me and go up on the website, coast2coastam.com, and send me a quick little message.
There's no guarantee that I will use the question, but I appreciate questions for the guest as we go along, and I will pluck the good ones from my screen and ask them.
And in that spirit, having had Michael Beneric on last hour, Libertarian's candidate for the presidency, somebody wrote to me and said, oh, now you're in trouble.
Now you're going to have to invite President Bush and Senator Kerry.
So, oh, hey, let's do that.
All right.
President Bush, Senator Kerry, whoever is entitled to equal time, lay it on us.
I'd love to have President Bush here.
Now, I'd do a whole four.
No, but make that a five-hour show with the President.
Or Senator Kerry.
I'd do a five-hour show with Senator Kerry.
unidentified
So you are hereby officially invited to the program.
I mean, I've been in that position in the military where the messenger had to be shot, that's me, and in the commercial arena where you bring someone the truth that they wanted, but now they realize it's not the truth they want To hear.
I can give you one example, if I may.
Sure.
When I was an intelligence officer in Germany, electronic warfare officer, my commander, retired as a two-star general, asked me how World War III would start there, how the 2nd Armored Cavalry Regiment would be informed of the start of World War III.
I said, this is the way it's going to go, according to the Soviets.
What will happen is Soviet Spetsnaz agents, Soviet Special Forces agents, will lob some VR-55 nerve gas grenades into the compounds of American students, elementary school students, during their lunch breaks.
The shock of that event will buy them enough time to make it past our defensive positions and make it through Bamberg and all of the forward defenses.
My commander was appalled at me.
He took it out on me because he thought I was some type of barbaric animal.
And I was telling him, sir, you've got to remember the mindset of our enemy is different than yours, which is honorable, according to our paradigm.
that was before my remote viewing day it started before remote viewing i'm used to this art so this was you're talking here about real intelligence gathered in a way other than by remote viewing correct by agents on on the ground.
Do they have the equivalent of the area where I live or not very far from it, like Mercury, a test site or someplace they could explode a bomb and I don't know, to be all right?
When wars really begin to flare up on several continents, these wars, remember the comment that I've made in the past, is that all the warring parties all of a sudden look up, literally look into the sky, and then disperse because their priorities change.
So that, in other words, this would preclude the idea of a nuclear slugfest, a world nuclear war.
That doesn't happen.
It might happen.
It might be one of those things that would happen.
Yeah, obviously if the sun spit at us and people died, then wars would seem immediately rather insignificant compared to the entire planet being in peril.
There's no question about that.
But we've got to talk a lot more about it because people have said, you know, the kill shot us.
See, it never happened.
Well, look, a lot of things that this man has said have happened.
Some haven't, but not 100%.
But an awful lot of them really have happened.
I'm a witness to that.
So you've got to listen and, you know, be careful.
This is all worrisome stuff.
And if this kind of thing, if you can't digest it, you're going to want to turn the radio off and not torture yourself.
from the high desert in the middle of the night major ed dames is my guest and this is coast to coast a and and and Don't you love her, Betty?
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Tell me what you say.
Don't you love her, Mandy?
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Don't you love her as she's walking out the door?
Like she did one thousand times before.
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Tell me what you say.
Don't you love her as she's walking out the door?
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Indeed, so, how many of you remember the movie The Core?
Remember that?
In The Core, the Earth's magnetic field became disturbed, actually stopped for reasons that were explained in the movie, and this then exposed the Earth to whatever might happen.
And they used a peach as an example, and a can of hairspray or something that they lit on fire.
The peach just went and burned right up.
And of course, you know, some hold the view that the Earth, if unprotected by the field, the magnetic field, would suddenly be vulnerable to a strike from the sun.
And if you were to have an eruption the size of the sun headed toward the earth that we had not very long ago, that big one, that the major called the shot over the bow that he predicted, remote-viewed, excuse me.
Well, then that's it.
I mean, we're talking about a very serious event here, and a lot of people have emailed about this, so we'll expand on it.
The way that we as a professional team are envisioning this happening, and I laid all this out on that DVD, I sent that to you, the Killshot DVD.
I laid this all out.
The way that we envision this happening is that, I'll have more to say about this show tonight, a very large passing space body, planet-sized body, not a comet, not an asteroid, approaches Earth, we think from the south, comes very close to Earth, crosses our trajectory, and it somehow electrically aligns itself between the Sun and the Earth.
That electrical alignment shuts down Earth's magnetic field.
So it has nothing to do with the core per se at that moment, but it shuts down the Earth's electric field.
And this is from the passing of a planetoid-size object.
Yes.
All right.
You know, if something like that, that big, was coming at us, and I'm not an astronomer, so I can't answer this question, but I would like to know, I mean, how much warning would we have?
And I mean, that alone, at that point, Ed, when knowledge like that was made public, and it couldn't help but be eventually, at some point, it would have to be made public.
And the public would then watch all the experts on CNN and Fox and MSNBC and all the rest of them saying, well, here's what's going to happen, you know, or potentially could happen just as a result of this object passing that close to Earth.
The idea of Nibiru or Planet X with a period of 11,500 years or thereabouts, that does appear to be correct, where each 11,500 years this thing comes into the inner orbits of the solar system and passes at some distance from the planet, Earth being one of them.
This next pass, however, which we think is pretty imminent within the next several Years at the most is going to be close enough to actually influence the rotational axis of the Earth.
I'm not talking about the magnetic axis, magnetic field, polar shift there.
I'm talking about the rotational axis of the Earth.
The Earth will wobble on its axis.
That is why this at least one pass before or two passes before, this city that they're researching off the coast of Cuba at 2,200 feet under the water suddenly made it down to 2,200 feet.
There can be only one reason why that city is down.
And we'll talk about Atlantis too momentarily.
There can be only one reason, only one cause for something that's, let's say, less a city, city-sized structures that are less than 20,000 years old, possibly.
I want to talk about some technical breakthrough that we have.
We may actually be able to, in terms of geological events, where you don't have humans making decisions, where it is a large geological event, a large spike on the horizon in terms of picking it up psychically.
Those things we may actually be able to nail down, to tell you the truth, because of a breakthrough that we've had.
However, at this juncture, the best that we can do is say this, that when, and I mentioned this on our last show, I believe, when a space shuttle is forced to the ground by a meteor shower, that is the nearest recognizable event to the first kill shot.
You know, it's not the same thing, of course, but there was a story recently of the space shuttle perhaps having to be abandoned because of an oxygen generator problem.
The Russians are trying to get a piece or a part up there to fix it.
I mean, in terms of proximity and time, they're pretty darn close because we're saying that this event is the nearest recognizable event before the kill shot and that the kill shot is facilitated by the passing body.
I'm beginning to look at preparing now for reconstruction later in a way that is revolutionary and a fantastic discovery that I wanted to talk to you about tonight.
Yeah, and that's something that really is so qualitative that it's outside the limitations of what we as remote viewers can do right now.
It's too big.
It's too big for us to handle.
For instance, if you asked me indirectly, we could come to some type of a conclusion.
But let's say, for instance, the CIA asked me once to determine whether a particular metal in a Russian laboratory that we were remote doing was U-238 or U-235, which alloy was this of uranium.
What I'm saying is that we cannot adjudge the size of an electron cloud and determine one or the other.
So we had to do it indirectly, and we succeeded in doing it indirectly by looking at where the ore was extracted and where it was refined, backtracking all the way back to the mining, to the mine head itself, and that kind of thing.
So we were able to deduce what it was.
But when you get into qualitative numbers like that, up until now, we haven't been able to do that.
However, that may have changed suddenly, abruptly.
There's been a major, major discovery in our work recently.
In the original Army, DIA, and CIA unit, Sci-Spy unit, for which I was operations and training officer, the DIA unit, that is, we were able to describe, as a team, let's say, a hostage or a terrorist location quite well.
So much to talk about, but yeah, I'll buy into this.
Indeed, if remote viewers all of a sudden could actually pin down whatever it is they're describing geographically to within the accuracy limits of GPS, that would be a monster for remote viewing, for remote viewing in general.
It would be an absolute monster.
so of course coming up next and will tell us exactly how it is done the the The two biggest problems with remote viewing have always been where and when.
Where and when.
That's what everybody wants to know, of course.
Where and when.
Well, Ed's saying, Adrian Dams is saying, I guess, that he thinks he's got the where part nailed down.
Now, that would be just monstrous for remote viewers worldwide.
It'd be front-page remote viewing headlines, for sure.
And so I'm sure that Ed is now going to tell us exactly how it's done.
In order to understand exactly how it's done, one would need to understand the fundamentals of remote viewing.
For instance, I couldn't tell you how a television worked unless you understood something and you do, but unless you and your listeners understood something about electronics and cathode ray tubes or L C D's, depending on the case.
But I can give you a general description.
And while we're on the subject, though, that very comprehensive remote viewing course that I took a year to produce is now out and being shipped.
People who want to learn this can learn it there.
Then they would have the fundamentals down to understand explicitly what I'm talking about.
But for you, I'll tell you this.
The system avails itself of something like, let's say, a terrain index reference system, where we have random, and this is a changing matrix, where we have random marked points, many, many of them, across the surface of the globe, the map of the Earth.
We use a blind and actually a double-blind method after we determine what our target is, let's say Osama bin Laden or Amelia Earhart's Electra, Lakita Elektra, paper, or something like that.
We pick the target and then we determine which is the closest terrain index reference point.
After that stage, we relay the matrix down again in a random fashion and we use something in a random fashion and we determine an azimuth and actually a vector, a distance and a direction from that terrain index reference point to the location.
I mean, I can be inside your head when you're talking like that and I can see what you're thinking about essentially.
That's not difficult to do.
Yes, it's like that.
We're ever increasing magnification.
This process does not take long.
One viewer can do it and be 100% correct, and I mean 100% correct.
But it is a good idea, even though you can get it right down to a Natcheriere position, still a good idea to use regular remote viewing to sketch and describe the location.
It's still a good idea to do that.
So you go to the field on with both things.
So that is an extreme breakthrough.
We tested it, field tested.
I have to express my gratitude to my partner, Brent Miller, who really developed the system.
This new system that we've developed, which is still proprietary, I thought you were going to use that word at the top of the hour when I said Ed's going to tell us all about it.
Now, I thought the next thing I'd hear is proprietary.
Well, we're going to keep it proprietary for a while.
I mean, it's worth its weight in gold.
No pun intended when I tell you about the next target.
So that doesn't mean remote viewers still can't describe things and sketch the locations.
But this system takes you, it's as good as the development of the GPS.
Yes, it is.
So anyway, we've already completed work on identifying the location of this child.
And it turns out we were almost a mile away that the site itself where her remains really are, this is a 13-year-old girl who disappeared 30 years ago, 25 years ago.
It's a cold case.
It turns out that her remains are in a very similar spot, but analytically it looks the same.
Yeah, of course, long ago, but because of your show over the years and people who know you and I, many people in law enforcement are Art Belt fans, Coast to Coast fans.
Yeah, it isn't anything that I worry about or my team at all.
So that's one thing.
But the case that's more interesting to people, and this, and my partner likes this a lot too, is, and these cases we can bring ground truth to.
If I chose as a first case something that I'd have to mount an expedition for, that takes a lot of resources and time, and I have other things I want to do.
Not that close, but it's not that far away either.
Okay, so it's in homogeneous terrain, which means that our traditional orthodox means of locating or describing something would really be almost impossible to use to attack this particular target.
So that's two operations that will demonstrate proof of principle here.
That way, when we tell the public where Osama bin Laden is or where Atlantis is or where the bind, torture, kill, a serial killer is in Wichita, Kansas, then we have an audience because we have a track record.
I mean, all these years, people have been waiting for something they could really put their hands on that would prove that there's something beyond us, no matter what arena you want to talk about.
Well, what you're saying you can do would absolutely do that.
Yeah, well, there's the other thing, Ed, and we've got to go back to that now.
We have to.
As fascinating, really fascinating, as everything you just brought forth is, it's kind of moot when you consider the kill shot.
In fact, everything seems moot once you consider what some people are calling Planet X or whatever, passing so close to the Earth that we all get fried, roasted, turned upside down, blown away or something, but a bunch of us.
And so, you know, a lot of people just have a hard time getting past that at all.
I'm just saying 2005 is the stuff that's going to hit the fan from so many directions, Art.
That is why I wanted to talk to you about this next project.
The reason I want successes on The Missing Child and The Treasure because that will get public than because I want an audience for the other project, to talk about the other project, which is critical to mankind.
So you're going to do these things in December so you can establish enough public credibility to then motivate, I suppose, millions of people with this project that you're apparently not going to tell us all about.
Well, you know, that's another thing I'll say for you over the years.
You have been nothing, if not consistent, always consistent through the years, never really never waffling, to use a modern word.
You've never waffled.
You've always said the same thing.
And Starman, I remember when you initially told me about Starman.
And so I guess we need to know then, Ed, this project, in what way will it make the world a better place or what's going to happen less or more people surviving or it's got to be something like that.
That's not to say that all of his other work and I encourage your listeners, if you do not if you're not familiar with with Professor Mack's work, that it it's with Professor Mack that have been on the website since his untimely passing so people can familiarize themselves with Professor Mack.
That will live forever.
That's one of the wonderful things, like a book.
The audio of this will be available forever.
What was it about his work, Ed, that so hit you, so impressed you?
But there was one thing that had a great impact upon the direction I took in terms of the UFO problem.
And over the last eight years, we've talked about that at length.
There was an incident in Zimbabwe in 1994, September 16, 1994, at a school.
Once on a show that you and I did together, I talked about this incident where more than 60 school children, ages 6 through 12, walked out into the bushland that adjoined their playground at a break and ran back and reported an incident where there was a flying saucer, a bunch of small flying saucers, a bunch of bug-eyed people, that kind of thing.
And telepathically, they were told that the planet is dying and we need to take care of it.
But I think that was actually a requiem announcement rather than a warning announcement.
Now, John Mack just happened to be in Africa when this incident occurred and went up there to Zimbabwe near Harare, the capital at the time, the Ariel School, and interviewed.
And I saw this interview on 35mm film.
He played it.
The parents of the children, most of the children, did not allow him to distribute this tape, but I got to see it before that happened.
Many things are said after any Ed Dame's appearance on this program, but there's one word that's never used.
whatever they say and they say a lot but they never say boring All right, we're on to something obviously very big.
What you're about to hear involves something these children said to John Mack and the video that Ed has seen of that, and it all winds into Project Starman.
So here we go.
Set us up again with the children.
John Mack was where and how many children, and when was this?
This was this particular event, this incident took place at a school, the Ariel School, near the capital of Zimbabwe, Arari on September 16, 1994.
It was a break.
The staff of the schools, the international school, were at a meeting.
There were some older children that were playing basketball On the basketball court, and witnessed a very large group of younger school children, elementary school children, from 6 to 12, walk away and into the brush.
They thought it was odd, but didn't stop playing basketball.
I got to see these on tape along with Professor Mack interviewing them.
And again, these children, international, a multiracial group of children, very good school, very little exposure of the kids to Western media, Western TV.
And they were transfixed by what they saw was a late model UFO.
I say that sarcastically because these are all just props.
Yeah, it was a flattened saucer with red lights around the rim, one big one, a bunch of small little saucers, and one or two very large, I'll call them aliens for lack of a better word, with big eyes.
Some of the children describe them as big as a rugby ball.
And a little alien jumping back and forth like he was moon bouncing, kinds of things that have been described by other abductees.
If, let's say it were true, that the message were true, and that would mean that whatever this intelligence was, it knows more about the planet than we do.
I call that a higher intelligence.
At any rate, since I hire him and I fire him, I decided to use this as a case study.
I wanted to know much more about the agency, the intelligent agency, and folks, listen to me carefully.
I did not say intelligence agency.
I said the intelligent agency behind that incident.
When expert remote viewers attack that problem, when we look at what went down, and I'll use just the vernacular now rather than to get into technical terms, there's nothing there.
There was nothing at the children except some type of an energy source.
That's all.
So everything that the children said they saw were props.
It was played into their mind like it was, think of an implant instead of a physical implant.
You have an idea that's projected into your mind that makes you see these things.
So we have a pretty advanced technology out there.
Let's use the term technology for lack of a better word.
What the heck?
Right?
So we have an advanced technology that can project this image into a bunch of transfixed children with the idea that your earth is dying and you've got to take care of it.
If what you're saying is true and there would be tapes documenting the interviews with the children, as you've talked about, that would be, I don't know, that would be, I would think, hard scientific evidence that would be hitting the headlines.
I mean, you're talking about 60 children, even if it's just two dozen who have all the same memory of an injected thought that is so dire, it just seems like it would be monstrous headlines.
You could have a crop circle in the sand out in front of the back of your house, a sand circle, and nobody would care.
We're dealing with science.
Yeah, right, science.
Professor Mack was trying to tell us something, that these abduction experiences are real.
It's a real objective phenomenon that may not ever be understood subjectively, but it's a conduit toward other realities, and that in and of itself is important.
In and of itself is important.
I think he's dead on.
I believe that without access to these higher realities, to something else, that even if we do reconstruct this planet after the kill shot and the pole shift, we're going to do the same thing over again.
We need connection with the system, I believe.
I have more to say about this.
It's quite revolutionary, and I've never mentioned it on your show before.
It deals with this new capability that my team has in terms of location.
I want to have a tete-to-tete with this particular higher intelligence.
Because we have chain of custody now, rather than looking at all the abduction phenomena in total, let's look at just this event and connect the dots.
Okay, Ed, you said that one of the reasons that it wasn't more widespread and in more hands was because you've mentioned something about the parents not allowing their child's image or testimony to be used in some way.
Well, each of the paraphrase, the children on Maas, it was, your planet is dying.
Mankind is doomed because you're not taking care of the planet.
To me, that's not a warning announcement.
That's a requiem.
That's a requiem theme.
Now, what do you do with something like that?
Even in the military, in the intelligence business, when we had enigma, enigmatic situations happen, you just stick it in the file drawer somewhere.
What do you do with it?
You don't do anything because you can't track it, but remote viewers can.
Remote viewers can look at that event and then connect the dots.
We can establish connectivity to what cause and the origin of what produced that event.
Who made the props?
Where are they now?
Is it a day or an it or a what?
That's what we did as an expert team.
That led us to something very interesting.
I wanted to know, I think that I would like to contact this agency.
That contact for me, a la Project Starman, means connecting with this particular agency.
A lot of work, years of work, of at least four or five years, went into trying to track down a way of connecting proactively, but on their terms, with them.
Now, it looked as if for a while there was an artifact, a key artifact somewhere on planet Earth.
Think along the lines of the monolith in 2001 Space Odyssey.
That idea.
It looked like there's something like that on the planet that was connected with them.
But that's not true.
That was wrong.
What there really is, and what surprised me to the next, is this.
There really is a Stargate.
Not exactly like the one in the movie, not like the one in the television series, but there really is a portal.
It exists on Earth, and the only way to find it, and you can walk right by it and never know it's there, the only way to find it is using these higher consciousness tools, remote viewing.
We have to approach this particular agency with a higher intelligence.
So you're saying this is stargate, and you're also now, I guess, telling me that your new ability to identify virtually down to the ability of our satellites orbiting GPS down to that scale would allow you to find this stargate.
We think that if we've developed the capacity to become aware of such a thing and to understand what it is and to locate it and then to present ourselves there, then we've met the Federation or the system's evolutionary criteria or their threshold value for contact.
We've demonstrated warp drive.
That's what we believe.
And that is why I think that in so doing, whatever comes out of that, and God only knows what it is, I don't think we can even understand what we'll be dealing with at this juncture right now.
But I do believe that entry level into a federation for our children and grandchildren is a worthwhile goal.
And that that quest is very, very important towards lifting ourselves up.
If we have greater realities, as John Mack suggested, that might be the case, it's a humbling experience, and yet it's a growth experience for us evolutionarily.
I think that, I mean, as an intelligence officer and as a remote viewer, years ago, even the military team and I saw that after the ozone layer fails, after all this stuff goes down, when we begin to rebuild with fewer people, when the survivors of all this begin to rebuild, there is another race here with us, an extraterrestrial race, humanoid race, after the dust clears.
I think that it makes sense to establish contact with this collective now and to begin to understand who our survivors will be shipmates with in the out years.
You know, if I were to walk through something like that or be beamed up or wherever the heck, whatever the heck happens, and had the opportunity to say anything, it would be help.
I've got hundreds of messages here, but just on one chosen page of messages, I see one that says from Arlene in Felton, California, I saw a report of the children in Africa on TV many years ago.
It's just like Ed said.
Mike in Norfolk, Virginia says, Major Ed Hogwash, question mark.
And, you know, and so forth.
It's exactly what I told you at the beginning of the program.
That was the coordinate remote viewing system that the father of remote viewing, Ingo Swan, discovered, and that became our standard operating procedure at the military Psych Spy Unit.
everybody always wants to know about market yeah no i don't i don't have any information usually the stock market and in fact in light of what I mean, worldwide economic collapse would call.
But in terms of earthquakes, the only work we've done, precision work as a team, has been for Asahi TV last year.
I did a program or Japanese TV, and they wanted to know when X-Day, what they called X-Day was, a big earthquake in Tokyo.
And so my key spent a lot of time looking at predicting earthquakes in Tokyo and what kind of damage it would be.
And it looks like late 2005, they do get some rather large quakes, and the consequences of that, the major consequence, is the Manju breeder reactor breaking in Japan.
Now, Japanese TV did not want to tell their viewers about that because we're talking about a miniature noble.
A lot of the American public, Ed, thinks that it's, you know, like they're like I'm talking or interviewing a psychic right now.
I'm not.
That's not what remote viewing is for those of you who are thinking, well, why can't he tell us?
He can, if we assign him this task or he takes it on, then the next time he could come on and tell us about Mount St. Helens, can we plead for that to be put on the list?
And the teacher was on there, too, and she told how they interviewed these children separately, children from all walks of life, you know, different races even.
The only thing, and I mentioned this in the Kill Shot DVD, that details that safe zones, the only things that we do know that are safe zones are a belt from about that centered around 45, 50 degrees, where a number of crop circles have been across North America and all the way into Eastern Europe, across the UK.
That doesn't mean life's going to be halcyon, but it means that the way the earth ends up tilting and other factors, apparently, those are safe zones, and that's what most of the crop circles are.
When Ed was talking earlier about what the children had kind of heard without actually hearing and the fact that there were UFOs involved, just it made the I got goosebumps on my arms when he said that.
Remember, you're listening to it now, second-hand, third-hand, fourth-hand.
Yes.
The message is being promulgated, too.
And that's what this system has been doing for a long time, this so-called abduction system.
Let's hark back to your friend Whitley Schrieber, original book communion.
By the way, he said in the book to paraphrase him, he thinks that in order to understand what he calls the visitors, it's going to take the intellectual rigor of the scientist and the insight of the mystic or something like that.
Yeah, that's called remote viewing.
But Whitley Schriever said when he was catatonic, you have no right to do this to me.
Yeah, I wanted to mention what happened to me that was similar.
And this was on the morning of 911 at about 6 o'clock Mountain Time in Phoenix.
It was really strange.
I woke up at 6 o'clock in the morning, and my answering machine was going off, and it sounded like an AT ⁇ T multiple-voice mixture.
It was a female, and she was saying similar things that, you know, someone's trying to contact you, the world needs help, and it was basically stating that it was wanting me to wise up, and it was really strange.
I went back to bed, and my girlfriend came over at about 6.30 or 6.45, just before my alarm went off, and she woke me up, and I jumped out of bed, screaming.
I was terrified.
Oh, but the other thing I missed was when the call, when I thought someone was on my phone, I walked out into the kitchen, and I have never sleepwalked.
I walked out into the kitchen thinking that someone had just left a strange message on my phone, and the message light was not blinking.
Now, in other words, he had a thought laid into his brain, much the way those children did.
Do you think, Ed, that this is a frequent occurrence or more frequent than we imagine that people on the earth right now are getting these messages and probably not talking about it?
I mean, if you go out in public and say, look, I just, you know, I heard from aliens in my head or God in my head, you're not going to get a lot of action.
Yeah, all I know is the popular, the ones that have made it.
One, Raymond Fowler's interview, Betty Andres and books like that and Communion Whitley's original book.
But when this agency talks, when the abductees, let's call them that for lack of a better term, say that whether or not they're being gynecologically probed or whatever, it's interesting to listen to what the so-called bug-eyed props say.
And they are props.
They're not real.
There's really no grays that look like that.
Those are all disguises.
I'll talk to you about the real form if you like.
To Betty Andresen, they say, when she says, why are you doing this to me?
They say, we're looking for the light.
The light is going out in man.
And doors have been left open.
Well, I thought that was like the hopi idea of the whole hole on the top of your head.
Don't let it close because that's the spiritual context.
But it may be literal, but maybe it's a stargate that I'm referring to.
But I think it is good.
I think it has, at some levels, John Mack, I'm sure he would agree with me if he were still around, or he'd still agree with me now, that it's quite widespread.
It absolutely is, and one thing's for darn sure, what you're hearing in these dark hours has no relationship whatsoever or so little, it's not even funny, to Anything you'll ever hear during the daytime in any media.
Other officers would come and brief on megaton engine throw weights.
I, as a biological warfare case officer, specialist for the Army, would brief on very excruciating ways that other countries were deciding on how they wanted to kill us.
I think that, I mean, you've still got the Timothy McVays out there, but in terms of foreign terrorism, by the way, you folks who have learned remote viewing or thinking about this is a vocation, make sure that you differentiate when you use the term terrorism between foreign and domestic.
But it's so difficult to get, it really is difficult to get high explosives and other things into the country.
So what you're going to see in our country is assassinations.
You're going to see a bullet, a gun, a bullet, and a takedown of people that matter.
What George is referring to is the years ago where we started to look at what the heck is going on way out there, what we call the discontinuity up ahead, is many, many people who were looking at a particular, attempting to optimize their personal pathways, this is businesses as well as individuals, a point was reached where the optimum appeared to be themselves underground.
That's when we began to look at why that was the case.
So, Color, you viewed this, you remote viewed this, the need to be underground.
You did that?
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Well, actually, it was interesting because when Ed blind gives this as a blind task, in other words, he doesn't tell you what the question is going to be.
And my drawing basically showed kind of an orbit, much like a planet, Saturn being a ring or an orbit.
And I saw a break, as if that there was an event that happened.
And I had myself in an artificial structure that would have been probably underground.
And it was rather interesting.
And when I heard Ed mention on your show that this is often what people are answering, it certainly makes one wonder.
You know, this sounds eerily to me like what was perhaps described generally as the third secret of Fatima, you know, by a number of clerics over the years.
Well, that's Father Milich.
It was as bad as you can imagine and worse than that.
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Do you believe, sir, that a person's lifestyle as far as consciousness toward the planet, consciousness toward people will make a difference?
In other words, if one is living a life that is already being supportive of the planet and supportive of other people within the planet or on this planet, do you think that that will make a difference?
I don't want to discourse on the consequences because I would like to use it would be, for me, I would want to use my skills to look at consequences, and I prefer not to do that anyway.
Well, because you jumped in ship where there's a chance to maybe help, if you can't help yourself, to help somebody else.
And I'm sure that's meaningful to you.
There's a whole bunch of Vietnamese orphans that are eternally grateful to Art Bell, and their whole lives have been changed forever because of one act.
Now, think of it that way.
If you don't want to help yourself, then there's opportunities to help others.
First of all, whoever might have the means, I was thinking possible extracting water from the reservoirs down by the Gulf there and dispensing it through the hurricanes.
Taking water out of the Gulf and dispensing it into hurricanes?
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I'm thinking there may be a reservoir down there for possibly where maybe the president would go or whoever would have the need and possibly dispensing it through the hurricanes.
And maybe that is one reason why the hurricanes came one after another.
Art of the coming global superstorm, you said it, Whitley said it, and you guys are right.
So, and I said it seven years ago that the Earth's weather is going to change so rapidly in a logarithmic scale that we will not, corporately, be able to grow crops the same way that we have grown them in the past.
Many people will starve as a result of that.
And these storms are going to get bigger and bigger.
There was one of your shows when I said, watch for the impossible, an F5 tornado, the mother of all tornadoes.
And in interview after interview, particularly in the last year, that's become increasingly apparent from actually the science side of the aisle, the metaphysical side of the aisle.
Everybody is actually starting to almost get together on this.
And according to science, all you need to have that occur is for the items in question to have been coexistent at some point.
And then there's a connection that will always hold true.
So in other words, this is one of the first times, isn't it, Ed, that the people on the metaphysical side and the people on the science side are beginning to testify.
In fact, as you probably know, a year ago, for the first time, physicists wringing their hands and pulling their hair out finally had to ask philosophers to sit down with them.