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art bell
From the high desert and the great American Southwest, I bid you good evening, good morning, good afternoon, wherever you are in the world.
25 time zones, all covered very completely by this program, Coast to Coast AM.
It's my honor and privilege to be with you for the weekend upcoming.
Actually, here now.
I have been buried in CNN coverage of Hurricane Gene, and if you haven't seen it, it's been absolutely incredible.
A moment ago, for the first time ever in hurricane coverage, I saw, I believe in the Melbourne area, a correspondent in a yellow kind of, you know, rain-protective gear thing.
He was picked up off the ground and actually took to the air.
First time I've ever seen a correspondent take to the air as Hurricane Gene makes landfall at 27.2 north, 80.4 west.
That's where it is right now, 27.2 north and 80.4 west, if you're following it on the map, about 10 miles west of Stewart, Florida.
And apparently, it has intensified as actually now as it's making Landfall.
The eye about halfway on land right now.
Winds up now to 120 miles an hour.
At the last report, with 953 millibars of mercury, west-northwest is the movement at about 13 miles an hour.
So, once again, the hurricane actually at this very moment making landfall, half the eye On, half the eye off, land, and there's going to be significant damage.
This was much worse than they anticipated, much worse than we've had so far.
And some of the pictures being shown on CNN are absolutely astounding.
In a moment, from Florida, Joseph Meyer, a 30-year veteran of the securities industries, you may recall we had him as a guest.
He worked as an arbitrator and mediator for the NASDAQ and New York Stock Exchange.
He runs Meyer and Associates, a Florida-based investment and consulting firm that specializes in arbitration, mediation, business acquisitions, and capital for emerging growth companies about 100 miles from landfall of the hurricane.
The fourth significant hurricane, and obviously worse than they anticipated, to Pomo, Florida so far this season.
And we're going to talk about the economic devastation of Florida, that which has occurred thus far, and that which is occurring as we speak.
Now, with reference to my telephone lines, I would say Florida only, please.
any of the lines.
You're welcome to fill them up and we'll take calls as we can after we talk with Joe Meyer in a moment.
Just astounding coverage, actually, on CNN.
And as I say, I've never seen a correspondent take to the air, but this one did.
Actually, the wind just picked him up and threw him off camera.
I mean, behind something off-camera.
So Florida getting hit and getting hit very hard.
This storm apparently intensifying even now with the latest report showing winds at 120 miles an hour.
Just for one moment before we go to Joe Meyer, I'd like to see if I can get our first-time caller line on the air.
Are you there?
unidentified
Yes, hello.
How are you?
art bell
Hi there, sir.
Where are you, please?
unidentified
My name is Matt.
I'm calling from Boca Raton, Florida.
art bell
You're in Boca, huh?
I once lived there, went to school in Delray Beach, so I know exactly where you are.
How are conditions there, and what are you doing?
unidentified
Well, right now, things are pretty calm as far as the wind goes.
It was pretty strong earlier.
There's a big tree that got knocked over on Federal Highway.
And this is after we've had the Francis episodes where a lot of the trees were knocked down.
I guess the weaker ones, and they all got cleaned out.
A lot of the ficus bit the dust over there.
And right now, some of the larger trees have fallen down on Federal.
One in particular is just right across Federal Over by 20th Street here in Boca, Raton.
We have no power in certain sections of Boca.
My house is out.
And up in West Palm, where I work, they were having winds in excess of 100 miles per hour.
And it's just taking a pounding up there.
And I expect we're going to be getting tornadoes north of here because I've heard reports that there are green clouds.
And I understand those are associated with tornadoes.
art bell
Green clouds.
All right.
Is there any way to assess the damage so far as you can see?
unidentified
What was that, Mark?
art bell
Is there any way to assess damage so far?
I suppose it's too dark and too stormy for that, but do you have any sense of how much structural damage and damage there is going to be to Florida?
unidentified
Well, I had to jump down to Broward to get some gas earlier.
I'm a cab driver.
And I didn't see a lot of structural damage here in south Palm Beach County or in Broward County from Fort Lauderdale North structurally.
There's a lot of landscaping damage and a lot of power line damage.
So if you want to consider power lines part of your structural damage, sure, there's that.
But I didn't see a lot of roofs ripped off, although it's pretty dark in areas because there's no illumination.
All right.
art bell
Well, listen, I've got to run, but I want to thank you for the call.
And we'll try and get some calls from other areas, other hurricane immediately affected areas.
So I'll just leave all my lines open for that.
If you're in Florida, you have a cell phone.
You're managing to hear us perhaps on a transistor radio or XM radio, or who knows how you might be getting us.
If you are, I fully understand most of the local stations are going to be involved in local coverage of an event of this magnitude.
Nevertheless, we'll leave the lines open for Florida.
At this point, we'll go to Joe Meyer.
Joe, what part of Florida are you in?
joe meyer in florida
I'm about 90 miles south of Jacksonville and 72 miles west of Orlando.
art bell
Okay.
So the bulk of the hurricane is pretty far to your east yet, but you're probably beginning to get winds.
joe meyer in florida
Yes, we are.
art bell
All right.
Joe, the reason I had you on is perhaps a little early in view of what's ongoing in Florida at the moment because it's all unfolding, and it looks like it's going to head right up the state if the path holds.
But with the other hurricanes, plus what's going on right now, Joe, what's happening economically in Florida?
joe meyer in florida
Art, we've been devastated economically.
The tourist industry in Florida is a $50 billion a year industry.
And this is the first time since 1886 that we've had four hurricanes back-to-back.
art bell
The first time in history?
joe meyer in florida
No, the first time since 1886.
art bell
That's a lot of history.
joe meyer in florida
That four hurricanes during a hurricane season have hit a state.
art bell
All right.
Obviously, there's going to be, from what I can see with the coverage I'm seeing, a great deal of damage from Hurricane Gene.
So this will be added to what's already occurred in Florida.
I was hearing interesting things earlier about people calling insurance companies, and apparently if they call them right after one of the hurricanes, then another hurricane hits, they get hit with two deductibles, I was hearing.
joe meyer in florida
Well, I think people have to understand that hurricanes, Charlie, Francis and Ivan have done a total of between $10 billion and $12 billion in damage, exclusive of the damage we are going to see from Hurricane Gene.
And a lot of people are finding out, Art, that they have Sizable deductibles on their policy, and they have to put out the first several thousand dollars before an insurance company will step in and certainly pay the balance of the monies to make repairs.
art bell
But is there something to that, Joe, that if you have one hurricane, then you call your insurance company and you make your claim, and then another hurricane comes along, that then is regarded, I guess, as a separate claim, and you are hit with two deductibles instead of one?
joe meyer in florida
I believe that is correct, Dort.
art bell
So I heard some people on CNN saying it's better to wait.
You might as well wait in view of them coming in.
Of course, you wouldn't know to wait, but in retrospect, certainly it would be better to wait.
So how I'm hearing power maybe not to the affected areas for three weeks.
I mean, this has got to cost on top of the tourist dollars, the damage, the infrastructure damage, just incredible amounts of money and a long time to fix up.
joe meyer in florida
Well, through Hurricane Ivan, we had over 2 million people without power, and we were without power here for several days.
And when the power did come on, it was really not too reliable.
So I think so far with the storm having made landfall about two hours ago, we already have over 150,000 people without power.
art bell
I've heard higher figures perhaps than even that.
And I guess it's going up by the minute.
Most of the correspondents who were saying they were seeing transformers exploding say now they are seeing them much further into the distance, so then obviously it's spreading.
And the amount of geography in Florida covered by possible or probable even power outages is gigantic.
joe meyer in florida
Yes, it is.
We have two main problems in Florida.
Number one, we have a shortage of building materials in which to make repairs.
And secondly, we have a shortage of manpower in which to come ahead and facilitate those repairs.
So the damage from the previous storms in a lot of instances has not been fully repaired.
art bell
All right.
Well, I'm sure that's certain.
A lot of roofs torn off with just tarps on them or something, and no doubt those are gone now, too.
What about evacuation?
There's been a lot of talk with regard to this hurricane that a lot of people have not evacuated.
And, of course, they sort of thought, well, this isn't going to be much of a storm.
Wrong.
It got worse as it approached the coast.
It's obviously very bad.
How many people do you think percentage-wise just said, ah, the heck with it?
I'll ride it out.
I'll stay home.
joe meyer in florida
Well, I think when you take a look at the number of people that have gone into the shelters, we're probably looking at 50% less than what we had on the previous storms.
We did have mandatory evacuations in a lot of counties, and we had people decide to stay in their homes.
The reason for that is a lot of people felt if they'd have stayed behind the last time, they could have possibly reduced the damage to their dwelling by making repairs immediately during the process of the ongoing storm.
Whether or not that would be true, I think, would depend on where you were.
But I think a lot of people decided to stay behind this time.
I think economically, people could no longer afford to flee the state with the cost of gasoline and lodging.
So I think a lot of people have stayed behind, and they're hoping for the best that the storm somehow passes them by.
art bell
I had heard that there were a number of people who just were out of cash.
I mean, you know, they had cash reserves for a storm, and by the time this one got here and they were told to evacuate, they didn't have enough money.
joe meyer in florida
No, they did not.
And they couldn't buy generators because Home Depot was out of generators.
And a lot of people have decided that they're just going to stay behind and tough it out.
art bell
Stay behind and tough it out.
Wow.
Well, all right, Joe, is there anything else you want to add in these early hours in the middle of the disaster that's occurring right now?
joe meyer in florida
Well, I think without a doubt, Florida re-enters recession.
We've been damaged and damaged very severely from these storms, and I think it's quite frankly going to take a long time to regain the confidence of tourists to come back into the state of Florida.
art bell
Joe, do you think there are people who are so weary along the Gold Coast of these hurricanes and elsewhere in Florida that they're just going to say, that's it.
You know, I've had it.
I've had enough.
I'm leaving Florida.
joe meyer in florida
I think we're going to see a lot of that, and I think we're going to see a lot of people that were contemplating moving into the state of Florida seriously rethink their position.
art bell
I would imagine so.
All right.
Joe Meyer, thank you very, very much for coming on the air this early morning with us and giving us your thoughts.
joe meyer in florida
Thank you so much for having me.
art bell
Take care.
That's Joe Meyer.
And that's sort of the economic look at things.
So let me give out my first time caller line.
And if you would be so kind, please, as to hold your calls to Florida only.
I've got one exception here, but Florida only otherwise.
My first time caller line is area code 775-727-1222.
Easy number to remember.
So if you're in Florida hearing us by hook or crook, that's a number.
And apparently there is still phone service.
I'm looking now at some of the CNN coverage, and it's just incredible what's going on.
Also incredible the way the hurricane came on shore and apparently actually as it was coming on shore, very atypical, it intensified while it was actually halfway on shore because the latest report showing it, as I mentioned, at about 120 miles an hour.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Yes, my name's Gary.
How are you doing?
art bell
Hi, Gary.
Where are you?
unidentified
I'm in Alabama.
art bell
Alabama.
Okay, you're going to have to speak up.
I can barely hear you, buddy.
unidentified
Okay, how's this?
art bell
Better.
unidentified
Okay, Art.
Well, my heart goes out to all those folks down in Florida.
And I would also like to say that I'm a storm spotter.
I've been a spotter well over 20 years.
And these storms here are really something else, quite honestly.
art bell
Well, how do you see these as different than all the other years you've been watching?
unidentified
Well, I've been spotting ever Since 83, and it's the frequency and the magnitude of them.
art bell
Say again, please.
unidentified
It's the frequency and the magnitude of them.
art bell
The frequency and the magnitude.
All right, buddy.
Thank you.
I appreciate it.
The frequency and the magnitude.
Well, this kind of, as you well know, and many of you have been listening to me for years and years and years now, this is nothing that surprises me in any way.
With what I've been telling you about the weather, what we're seeing right now is but the beginning.
And it's not just hurricanes.
I'd like to emphasize that.
You're going to see all manner of severe weather, including tornadoes, flooding, islands that are going to become uninhabitable.
Increasingly, you're going to see all sorts of things happening with our weather that people will, for a while, continue to attribute to sort of a natural cycle.
But it's been my feeling for a long time.
This is not a natural cycle we're in.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Hello.
art bell
Hi, where are you?
unidentified
I'm in Port St. Lucie.
art bell
Port St. Lucie.
Okay, so that's literally ground zero, sort of, huh?
unidentified
Yeah, right now we're in the eye.
It's really quiet.
And we went outside, and there's just roofing everywhere.
art bell
So you're literally in the eye of the hurricane right now?
unidentified
Yeah, right now.
art bell
And how long should you be in that?
Do you know?
unidentified
It's been about like half an hour so far.
art bell
About 30 minutes.
You may have up to two or three hours, I was hearing on CNN of the eye.
If you get the full effect of it, prior to the eye crossing your point, how bad was it there?
unidentified
We were just hearing all these noises and we didn't know what they were, and so we went out and there's this palm tree that the city moved after Francis, like it fell on a power line, but they didn't take it down.
They just leaned it on another tree.
And I think it fell in our car, fell nearby it.
art bell
Nearby it or you think it actually fell on your car?
unidentified
I couldn't see.
It was just so dark outside, but it either fell nearby it or on the car.
We're not sure yet.
And there's just roofing material everywhere, all over the place, like on the cars and everything.
art bell
So all kinds of debris.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
And then plus debris on the road.
They didn't get to pick all of it up, and so that got scattered around everywhere.
art bell
Do you have a sense of how much damage, if you were to close your eyes and imagine, how bad is it going to be when the sun comes up?
unidentified
It's probably pretty bad.
Yeah, it's going to be bad.
A lot worse than Francis, but not as bad as Ivan's.
art bell
Well, you know, that's what I've been hearing, quite some bit worse than Francis.
All right.
Well, listen, where have you been staying in the house?
unidentified
Right now, we were staying in the garage.
Right now I'm in the living room.
art bell
So you're back in the living room during the I, huh?
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
Any idea how bad it's going to be on the other side?
unidentified
Of the house?
art bell
No, the other side of the hurricane.
unidentified
Oh, it'll probably.
I guess everything that fell down fell down already.
So I don't know.
art bell
Well, remember, the winds will be from a different direction as soon as the backside of the hurricane hits you.
So, you know, everybody urges, and I'm sure you know you're going to get hit with more.
So stay put.
unidentified
All right.
art bell
All right.
Thank you.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Good morning.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
art bell
Good morning.
How are you doing today?
I'm all right, sir.
Where are you?
unidentified
I'm in Orlando, Florida.
art bell
Orlando.
Okay, my wife's brother is in Orlando, and we talked to him a little while ago.
Believe it or not, he was asleep, and we woke him up when we called.
But I guess in Orlando, you're just probably beginning to get some pretty good winds, and it's coming your way, huh?
unidentified
Hey, Art, let me tell you this, please.
art bell
Art?
Yes.
unidentified
Are you there?
Yes.
It's not Jean, it's Terry.
I was in the eye of the storm.
art bell
I spoke to her.
You spoke to who, sir?
unidentified
It's not, it's not.
The storm is not named Gene.
It's Terry.
art bell
Terry, huh?
unidentified
That's her name.
art bell
Well, is that given bestowed by you or what?
unidentified
That's what she told me.
Her name is Terry.
art bell
Oh, I see.
So you talked to the hurricane.
Yes, I did.
unidentified
I was straight in the middle of it.
art bell
You were straight in the middle of it and you talked to it.
Yes, I did.
unidentified
Her name is Terry, not Jean.
art bell
She's objecting to being called Gene.
Maybe that's why she intensified before she hit shore.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Hello, Art.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
This is Dave calling from Tampa.
art bell
Hello, Dave.
unidentified
Hi.
About the deductibles on the insurance, each storm in Florida is considered to be a separate event.
And this was a law passed right after Hurricane Andrew as an enticement to keep all the insurance companies from bailing out of Florida.
And right after Hurricanes Charlie and Francis, the insurance companies were up in small aircraft doing aerial photographic surveys to check for damage so that no one could claim that the damage is caused by only one storm and avoid a double or now maybe even a triple deductible.
art bell
It's going to be a massive confusion down there, isn't it?
unidentified
It sure is.
You know, according to the National Hurricane Center track, this storm should have turned north by now, but it shows no signs.
art bell
I know it.
And being in Tampa, that would be of very large concern to you because if it doesn't make its northward turn, it could, I suppose, come right over Tampa.
unidentified
Well, if it keeps going west, we'll be on the north side of the storm, which would be serious trouble for us here.
art bell
Well, it looks like a west-northwest track right now that would take it just barely to the north of you.
However, the way these storms have been tracking and they've been predicting have not exactly been the same thing.
unidentified
Well, for the past seven hours, seven and three-quarter hours, it's only moved a tenth of a degree north.
All the movement's been westward.
art bell
Yeah, right toward Tampa.
So I guess you're all battened down, aren't you?
unidentified
I certainly am.
art bell
All right, my friend, thank you very much for the call.
Take care.
First-time caller line, area code 702-727-1222.
There and east of the Rockies, Florida only, please.
unidentified
Rise on.
Rise on.
Riders on the storm, riders on the storm.
Into this house we're born into this world we're thrown like a dog without a bone.
And back you're out of bone.
Riders on the storm.
There's a killer of the road.
His brain is worming like a toe.
Take it away.
Let your children play.
If you give this bad right, they will die.
Killer on the road.
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art bell
Tell you what, these storms have been acting very strangely, and I know a lot of the rest of you feel it and have observed it.
And you can, you can just feel it.
They're acting in some different kind of way.
I don't want to be overly dramatic here, but the way they're building, the way this one's built, the way this one is moving, by the way, continues to the west-northwest toward really Tampa, frankly, if it doesn't take the turn.
It's not yet taking the turn they said it would take.
And it's vicious coming ashore, 120 mile-an-hour winds.
The CNN coverage is quite good if you want to try to catch that.
I don't mind plugging others who are doing a good job, and they really are doing a good job.
Anderson Cooper's out there, and you've got to give it to the guy.
He's got guts.
We'll be right back.
Florida on my lines, any of the lines, but Florida only, please.
unidentified
Florida on my lines, any of the lines, any of the lines, any of the lines, any of the lines, Would you?
Would you?
art bell
There is something really eerie and weird about the way these storms have been acting.
When in your life, because I don't recall it in my life, have you ever seen a hurricane like Ivan, for example, that hit Florida, hit Florida, then went all the way up the East Coast, as hurricanes normally do, and then out into the Atlantic, right?
Well, not Ivan, of course.
Ivan went sailing right up the East Coast, went back out into the Atlantic Ocean, and then unlike anything I've ever seen in my life, it took off straight south, all the way back down to Florida, cut across the state of Florida, went back into the Gulf of Mexico, and regained strength, and then gave him grief in Texas.
And now we look at this hurricane building as it comes on shore with an updated forecast showing 120 mile-an-hour winds now, which makes it, of course, very strong, category three, and just building and acting and moving in a way that defy those who are trying to forecast it.
First time caller line, you are on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Hey, this is Dan in Lakeland, Florida.
art bell
How are you doing, Dan?
Pretty good.
And how are conditions where you are?
unidentified
It's getting windy and rain's coming down horizontally.
art bell
Horizontally, yeah.
I've seen a lot of pictures of that.
Absolutely horizontal rain and kind of like little bullets.
All the correspondents are saying they can't even turn into the wind.
unidentified
Yeah, whoever drew the short stick got, you know, like he said.
art bell
Well, you know, I used to think that.
But if you look at Anderson Cooper right now reporting to CNN, it's pretty obvious the guy wants to be there.
unidentified
Yeah, I know.
art bell
He's now done this in the last two hurricanes.
He obviously wants to do this.
God bless him.
I do understand the urge, but I think he's getting satiated tonight.
unidentified
Yeah.
Do you remember John Hope that was on the weather channel?
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
Yeah, he passed away.
His hurricane coverage was really good.
art bell
Well, I've been watching the weather channel, but then as the hurricane actually began to impact Florida, CNN seemed to have very good coverage.
So I switched over.
unidentified
Definitely.
What I wanted to say is something's changed in this weather cycle because this is the third one that has hit our county.
What are the odds of three hurricanes hitting?
art bell
And also, they've been trying to compute, unsuccessfully, I might add, the odds of a hurricane hitting the exact same place.
In other words, coming onshore at exactly the same place.
And there's something...
Breaking off.
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
I know.
I've got endless stories behind me.
Thank you very much for pointing that out, because it's part of what's happening to us right now.
These remote things you hear about, like the North Pole melting like polar bears soon not having any habitat to traverse because all the ice is Going to be gone, the bottom of the world, where you see ice calving off, where you hear about ice shelves that are not in the condition they thought they were in.
I've got some alarming stories to read you about all of that, but all of that is related to all of this.
And the storms are getting, the weather patterns are obviously getting weird quickly.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Yeah, how's it going, all right?
art bell
Oh, it's going all right, sir.
Where are you?
unidentified
I'm in Tampa.
art bell
You're in Tampa, Florida.
Well, okay, then you're like one of my other callers over there on the west.
And for now, okay, but boy, the way this hurricane is moving right now, it looks like you could be perhaps in for a little bit of it.
unidentified
Hello?
art bell
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just said it looks like you could be in for a little bit of it.
What do you think?
unidentified
Yeah, I think it's going to get pretty bad.
I hate to say that, but it's just getting real scary right now.
I'm just hoping everybody makes it out of this one okay.
Those last three were like hell on earth, man.
I'm telling you.
art bell
Hell on Earth.
That's the way it's being described by a number of people.
Hell on Earth.
Some of the correspondents that were in the middle of the story, I'm saying this is hell.
They were, I think, amazed, shocked, and perhaps a little dismayed to be in the beginning or in the middle of this kind of coverage.
As one caller said, we used to think they drew the short stick, and the short stick would be the one to go down and do the coverage.
But I don't think so this time.
Anderson Cooper, I think, wanted it.
He's getting all he wanted.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Yeah, hi, it's Ken from Fort Lauderdale, Florida.
art bell
Fort Lauderdale, yes, sir.
unidentified
Just moved down here from Pennsylvania.
art bell
When?
unidentified
In July.
art bell
In July.
Oh, in July, really.
Well, hey, welcome to Florida, huh?
unidentified
I was greeted to all these hurricanes.
People are starting to think I brought them with me.
art bell
Yes, indeed.
Are you hunkering down right now, or how are things in Fort Lauderdale?
unidentified
It's not too bad.
I keep losing power every maybe every half hour or so, just for a few seconds, and then it comes back on.
But we get some pretty good bands coming through here.
art bell
Right.
unidentified
Now, I also wanted to say that if it goes north of Tampa, then it's the south side that becomes the dirty side.
art bell
Right.
unidentified
Bringing the water back in.
art bell
No, that's exactly right.
Yes.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
So anyway.
art bell
Listen, thanks, and take care in the middle of that monster.
unidentified
Okay, thanks a lot, Art.
art bell
All right, bye.
I wonder how many of the rest of you have this eerie feeling that we're seeing the beginning of a larger change.
But, you know, I know that everybody's going to say, oh, well, it's just a cycle, you know, and they were due, and probably that's right.
But it has a feel, it really does, of more than just a cycle.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
Hello, Art.
I'm calling from Pensacola, Florida.
art bell
Pensacola?
Oh, up there.
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
All right.
Well, how's it going?
And as you watch the track of this storm, what do you see?
unidentified
Actually, I'm not watching it.
Our power is still out from when Ivan hit it.
art bell
Holy mackerel.
unidentified
Yeah, and we're going on day number, I think, 11 or 12 now.
And I've been through many hurricanes living here in Pensacola, but Ivan was the worst I've ever seen in my life.
And everybody you talk to here in Pensacola who also have gone through many hurricanes, they're like, geez, this thing was the worst.
And it was just downright scary.
And like I said, here we are 12 days later, and our power is still out.
art bell
The worst, you'd say?
unidentified
The worst I've ever been through.
And I went through Frederick in 79 and Aaron and Opal, who came 60 days from with each other.
But those were like two and I think one and a one.
But Ivan was just horrible.
And also something that we all kind of like, we say to each other, you know, years from now, we'll say, we went through a freak storm because, like you said, it went up all the way up to Pennsylvania, came back down to Atlantic, and then beat up Texas.
art bell
I've never seen any such thing in my lifetime.
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
And that's not to say it hasn't occurred, but Jan, in my lifetime, I've never seen anything like it.
And now this one doesn't seem to be taking the turn that they forecast it would.
On the other hand, should it take the turn, but late, then I guess you'd be concerned, wouldn't you?
unidentified
Exactly.
Airbonn and Scamby and Santa Rosa County, if it crosses over the peninsula and gets back into the Gulf, it can regain strength.
And this has been one horrible, horrible season.
art bell
And I don't even know why I believe that, but I believe that might happen, or it may turn north as they're suggesting.
But right now, it sure does look like it's headed mostly west to me.
unidentified
Yeah, I don't like hearing that.
Because like I said, we don't even have a TV here because we still don't have power.
We're part of the 25 or 30% of the county that has not regained its power yet.
art bell
Well, you obviously have telephone and you have radio because I can hear it going in the background.
unidentified
And I beg your pardon, radio with batteries.
art bell
So I guess that's at least a little bit of comfort for you.
unidentified
Well, I enjoy your show, I'll say that.
art bell
All right.
Thank you very much.
By the way, at the top of the air is Sean David Morton, who I'm sure is listening to some of this, some of you now, as well as watching the coverage on CNN.
They will be talking, I think, later about how this hurricane fooled the forecasters a little bit and actually even began to intensify.
As the eye hit land, you would think it would begin to fall apart.
But if you look at the pictures that they're still showing of the radar, which is pretty good because, you know, the eye's over land right now, I don't see that happening in the photographs yet.
I just don't see it happening.
First time, color line, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Hello, Art.
art bell
Yes, sir.
Where are you?
unidentified
I am just a bit northwest of Lake Okeechobee.
art bell
All right.
Welcome to the Program.
unidentified
Yeah, I'm the Francis was a bit stronger than Ivan, at least for us.
And we've been cutting down trees during the day to avoid any sort of trees hitting the house.
art bell
That's a pretty smart idea.
In other words, you're that worried they're going to come down.
unidentified
Well, it wasn't only us.
In fact, the electrical company was around, and the telephone company was also around making sure certain trees were cut down to avoid any problems later on that they could have.
art bell
Yep, makes sense.
unidentified
You had a call that called in talking about green clouds before.
art bell
That's right.
unidentified
I have not seen them, but if you could get some more information on that, I think that would be pretty interesting.
art bell
Well, I am open to it.
People can get me on the computer, email, or, of course, here on the phone, and I'd like to hear other reports of that myself.
Thank you very much.
People are going to, of course, have to be careful about the possibility of tornadoes.
I think there have been several warning areas right now with regard to tornadoes, but the bulk of the tornado action probably is going to occur tomorrow and the following day as the storm moves north if it does as forecast, which we're not exactly sure about right now.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Where are you, please?
Okay, Art.
You ready for this?
I have no idea, sir.
When I do this program, I'm ready for anything.
I also was in the center of Ivan.
unidentified
His name is not Ivan.
His name is Cyclops.
art bell
Cyclops.
All right.
Well, if you get to talk to Grant, be sure and ask him if that's really his name and being absolutely certain you know that he's in the right tomb.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Hey, how you doing?
art bell
I'm doing all right, sir.
Where are you?
unidentified
I'm near Gainesville, Florida, heading south from 75.
We're having some gust over here, but what I wanted to tell you was.
art bell
You're in an 18-wheeler, is that right?
unidentified
Yeah, I had a couple of guts hit me so far.
I'm planning to try and stop and check it out in Ocala.
art bell
Are you running full or empty?
unidentified
I'm full.
I got about 34,000 pounds on the truck.
art bell
Okay, and you're headed south.
unidentified
Winterhaven is where I'm supposed to deliver.
That's right in the path of where it's going.
art bell
Yeah, I hear you.
I mean, what's your thinking right now?
Are you just going to continue on or are you going to say, look, we better park and ride this one out?
unidentified
Well, I've been calling the receivers yesterday.
They said, oh, yeah, come on.
We're going to be open.
And I called them today, yeah, we're going to be open.
I called them about an hour ago.
They said, well, we don't know if we're going to be open or not.
I call back in the morning.
art bell
Well, what about, yeah, but as you observe the amount of gusts, the kind of gusts you're taking right now, personally, are you going to be safe or are you going to need to pull over?
unidentified
I've driven up in Wyoming where they've got continuous winds of like 50 miles an hour.
But these gusts, when they hit you, it's a little more dangerous than a continuous wind, you know?
art bell
Well, so you're going to pull over or are you going to, what are you going to do?
unidentified
I'm going to get fuel in O'Calla, and I might try to go a little further.
I think it'd be kind of exciting to go through a hurricane in an 18-wheeler.
art bell
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
The state police should stop me if, you know.
art bell
Well, sir, whatever cranks your shaft, you know, your crankshaft.
It's a big truck there.
You know, I'm not sure.
On the one hand, I understand that psychological point of view of, you know, let's get in that surf.
Let's take that truck right into the middle of the hurricane and all the rest of it.
And they've shown some of that on TV.
People out there in Bermuda short standing by fences, you know, that are about to blow away, that sort of thing.
Very serious winds and people sort of, I don't know, being sightseers.
So on the one hand, I understand that.
But on the other hand, people really are crazy, aren't they?
First time caller line, you're on the air.
Hello?
Hello?
Going once, going twice, gone east of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hello, Art.
unidentified
How are you?
art bell
I'm all right, sir.
Where are you?
unidentified
I'm calling from Middletown, Connecticut.
art bell
Connecticut.
All right.
Well, we're taking Florida only at the moment, but if you have a real quick comment.
unidentified
Okay.
Quick comment.
I got the CC radio that I heard advertised from you.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
A year ago, and it's the best radio I ever had.
If I ever bought something from someone advertising it.
art bell
Listen, I'm sure they appreciate it, and I appreciate the plug, and he's right.
It's the best radio in the world.
And that's something the rest of you might think about, because when something like this comes along, and increasingly over the years, I've told you, it's going to come along more and more, there are certain basic things you've got to have.
One of them is a radio.
It's the only comfort you're going to have.
Electricity goes out, telephones go out, television goes out.
All of that happens when storms of this magnitude occur and will increasingly occur.
And you need to have a good radio.
So that's good radio.
And other things, lights, they sell those, by the way, particularly the newer style light with LEDs that last millions of times longer.
I don't want to do it commercially here, but these are the things that you need to have with you.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hi.
Yes.
art bell
Yes, sir.
Where are you?
unidentified
I'm in Pensacola, Florida.
art bell
Pensacola.
And are you in a vehicle?
unidentified
No, I'm in my home.
art bell
In your home?
unidentified
Uh-huh.
art bell
Okay, so how do you feel about all this?
unidentified
Well, the trucker that was just on there, he ought to pull off the road.
We had a trucker like that trying to beat this storm here in Pensacola when Ivan came through, and he was going across the Interstate 10 bridge, and a 40-foot wall of water came and wiped the bridge out.
Wow.
Half of the truck was on the parked, the back half of the truck was on the bridge, and the cab went down in the bottom of Scambia Bay, and that's where they got the guy out.
He was dead.
art bell
Well, there are reports of people, I mean, people do some of the damnest things.
There's been a report some people actually took off to one Of the barrier islands, right in the brunt of all of this.
And then apparently, two people called 911 and said that car went off the intercoastal highway, off into the water.
And, you know, because it was so bad, they couldn't even send out Coast Guard or whatever with the hope of saving this person if they really did go into the water.
I don't see how they could live through it.
unidentified
Well, anybody who tries to stand in the path of a hurricane like what we had here in Pensacola, or even with Gene right now, they need to really think twice.
They ought to come to Pensacola and look around.
It's like a thousand tornadoes.
You could imagine what one tornado would do to an area.
Yes.
It's just like a thousand tornadoes.
art bell
Listen, I had an economic kind of guy on the air a little while ago, and he said this is going to send Florida into a recession, all of this.
Do you agree with that?
unidentified
Well, Pensacola was, Escambia County, where Pensacola is, was already the 17th poorest county in the nation.
So I don't know about the rest of Florida, but it's probably going to be better for our economy here than it was before, Ivan, you know, because there's, you know, federal money flowing in from FEMA.
art bell
Yes, but even despite all of that, this is so serious, sir, that the guys who watch the economy are saying this is going to toss the entire state into a recession, an economic recession.
The weather is much more powerful than you think it is if you're in the affected area.
Please take care.
unidentified
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art bell
Can't you feel the quickening?
Can't you feel it all quickening with what's going on with our weather right now?
That doesn't need any more explanation.
What's going on in Iraq?
What's going on all across the world right now?
In most areas.
Can't you feel a kind of a quickening?
By the way, I want to mention Haiti.
As you know, Gene, during its tropical storm early days, passed over Haiti.
And the scenes from Haiti, if you've seen them, if you've seen any of them, and I think you probably have on one of the networks, or maybe Drudge, he had some incredible photographs actually of what was occurring in Haiti.
There are riots going on, 1,500 dead, perhaps 2,000 more unaccounted for.
It is a disaster of near biblical proportions in Haiti.
If you take a look at some of the photographs, the capital city, the cities and towns in Haiti, they are submerged.
All of the water is polluted.
The people are rioting.
They're grabbing things from the back of trucks.
They're raiding trucks.
Every bad human behavior you can imagine driven by desperation is occurring in Haiti.
And we haven't done very much yet.
And I know it's just Haiti.
And I know we've got to worry about our own people right now in Florida.
And you worry about your own first.
But we're a big country.
We can do a lot of things.
And it seems to me we could be doing more than we're doing for Haiti.
I know the billions we now spend in Iraq, and I know the tragic, terrible situation as part of this quickening going on there.
But there's really a gigantic tragedy on our doorstep.
So as soon as we can get things in store in our own house here and we have time to look elsewhere, we really should take more of a look at what's going on in Haiti.
In a moment, Sean David Morton is here, and I'm sure he'll have a lot to say about all of this.
He's a natural psychic, a trained remote viewer and remote viewing instructor, an intuitive consultant, an investigative reporter, an accomplished award-winning producer, director, and screenwriter for TV and film.
He is the managing trustee of the Prophecy Research Institute, which since March of 93 has published the monthly Delphi newsletter, which now has about 20,000 people that subscribe worldwide.
Sean first achieved a whole lot of recognition when he took an expedition to Area 51, made the front page in newspapers across America, including the LA Times, later discovered a mountaintop vantage point where you could look down on Area 51 out of the shadows into the realm of an international discovery.
He was also the first to break stories, national stories, in the world press, not only on Area 51, but on other very interesting things.
Phoenix Lights, remember?
Tulsi Mesa, the Chupacabra, the Area 51, Alien Interview.
I'll never forget that.
I was here for that.
The Pleiadian contact case.
There have been many of those.
Since then, Sean's appeared on written, directed, and produced and consulted for a lot of TV programs to include hard copies, strange universe, sightings, now it can be told the conspiracy zone.
You've probably heard of most of those.
Since you follow this kind of thing, Sean uses his talents and abilities to predict future occurrences, things, trends like earth changes like we're going through right now, political events and stock market fluctuations.
He does have an astounding hit rate on this program.
There are many Sean detractors out there, and whenever you're going to have Sean David Morton on, you'll always get a lot of, oh, why are you going to have that fraud on?
Well, that's an opinion, not mine, because I've watched his predictions over time.
They've been quite remarkable.
Really, they have.
So detractors or not, in a moment, Sean David Morton.
Tracking the hurricane at this hour, Gene, of course, it looks like the eye is two-thirds or a little better on to land at this moment south of Vero Beach.
Here, ladies and gentlemen, is Sean David Martin.
Sean, I want to start with something hard.
There are websites, you know, various websites scattered across the web that are almost devoted to debunking you, calling you a fraud, and really coming after you with claws and teeth bared, right?
Yeah.
What's that all about, and how do you answer it?
I mean, I'm sure you've read them.
You keep up on that kind of stuff.
sean david morton
Yeah, well, it's a couple of, I mean, I hate to talk about them on this show and kind of waste the time on them.
art bell
Well, the accusations, I mean.
sean david morton
Well, I can tell you that the majority of them are by a lot of the same people that were attacking you.
art bell
You know what?
I'd rather not deal in names if you don't mind.
Let's not do that.
But the accusations, I would like to deal with those.
I mean, they say your hit rate is nowhere near as good as I've touted it to be, that sort of thing.
I mean, they're just really rough on you.
sean david morton
Well, over and over and over again, it's mostly people that, number one, don't pay attention.
Number two, haven't read my newsletter.
Number three, make general, sweeping accusations about this sort of thing.
You know, when you're a stand-up guy in sort of a put-down world, you make a lot of enemies, as I'm sure you know.
And you know a lot of the enemies that I'm talking about.
I used to work for some of them, and I was involved in defending you on a number of occasions legally a while back, which certainly got the ill-will of a couple of people.
And I'll just give you one particular example of this.
One individual, I finally broke down and actually sued for libel.
And in that particular case, not once did they ever use a single, not once did they use the truth as their defense.
Let me put it that way.
And not once did they say, come up with any ounce or shred of evidence or proof of any of their accusations.
Their defense was he's a public figure.
We can say anything we want about him because he's in the public eye.
He's publicly.
art bell
Well, not anything, as you know, Sean.
They really can't say anything.
However, there is a lot more latitude when you're a public figure, and you are legitimately a public figure.
unidentified
Right.
sean david morton
So much.
But it is what they got away with as far as the entire – As I said, they never once used the truth as their defense.
The case was simply dismissed on the ground that I think the judge just said, well, this looks like this is just kind of a pissing contest.
art bell
But I mean, why do you think they're after you the way they are?
Why come after somebody who's just making predictions?
Why?
sean david morton
Well, because I'm one of the few guests, and let me pat myself on the head a little bit, that over the course of the last 13 years, I've been very, very, very honest about my track record.
I print when I'm right, when I'm wrong.
I try to make sure that things are printed, that we have transcripts of the interviews themselves.
And I'm one of the few people that they can't simply point their finger at and say, you know, well, oh, this guy's just wrong all the time, and he's just another freaky psychic.
And I mean, I have the unfortunate distinction, as far as my detractors go, of actually putting in print, both in my Delphi Associates newsletter and stating on the radio a series of very specific predictions that have been very specifically accurate.
And I think it, to tell you the truth, I think it drives them crazy that I've been as right as I have been for as long as I have been right and correct.
art bell
And as I said, well, that has been my observation that you've been correct.
And that's kind of what I go by.
Now, let's switch gears just a moment because we are in the middle of a catastrophic event, another catastrophic event in Florida.
And it's almost, to me, I don't know, Sean, it's almost suggestive of earth changes.
It almost feels like some switch has clicked and something has changed.
I don't know.
Do you have any comments on it?
unidentified
Well, it's a couple of things.
sean david morton
In the email that I sent you a few days ago that had to do with what I was talking about, where I had said that there would be six major hurricanes that would hit Florida.
Bonnie, Charlie, Francis, Ivan, we're now at Gene, which means that it's not over yet for Florida.
I do believe that there will be one more major hurricane this year that will hit.
And also, here's going to be, as the hurricane actually moves, it's moving across through Point St. Lucie right now, up through Melbourne at about 60 miles per hour or so, the hurricane itself is also going to expand.
As the eye of the hurricane hits land and expands over Orlando and Tampa, the storm will actually expand outwards from there.
Here's the two biggest problems that I say.
Well, let me see the biggest problem with Gene right now.
The problem is that when it hits, I feel that there is now so much debris, whether or not it's tents or cars or motorhomes or entire trailer park cities there, if you will, that now this hurricane is actually going to pick up a great deal of the debris and turn it into a rain of missiles, if you will, of all the debris that has come from the previous hurricanes.
That is going to make this one particularly deadly because all I see in my visions of this is just a rain of stuff that will actually be picked up by these high winds.
And as I said, trees and cars and motorhomes and all of the debris as it sweeps across.
That's what's going to make this hurricane particularly deadly just because of what's going on with it.
art bell
Sean, when did you make the prediction of the number of hurricanes this season?
sean david morton
I think I made it.
Actually, I talked about it on George Norrie's show back in February, where I talked about this being a record year for hurricanes.
But let me point out that this has a lot to do with the trend of what's going on, and this has a great deal to do with what you have been saying on this program with guests like myself, with other people who have talked about these types of earth changes, whether or not as the Hopi elders or people who are experts on the Mayan calendar or whatever, that we are entering a phase of time, a speeding up, a quickening, as you have said for many, many years.
And I remember going all the way back to the original 1990s when we talked about this, about the 2004 to 2005 timeframe becoming a fantastically wild period of weather that would be exacerbated by a couple of things, by what I think is a couple of things, in my humble opinion.
Number one, we have a solar cycle that we seem to be going through in which there continue to be a massive mammoth amount of solar flares.
And basically, it's supposed to be like an 11.5-year cycle or a 22-year cycle that just hasn't stopped for like the past four years or so.
art bell
It has been incredible.
sean david morton
And this cycle 23, as they've been calling it, which I think is interesting because you have 23 base pairs of DNA.
The number 23 has certain mystic and occult significance, hasn't stopped.
And I've also been talking on this show for many, many years about a military white paper that was written quite some time ago, which was called The Flight of the Key Bird, which was a B-29 bomber, I think the last one in existence next to the Enola Gay.
And that this B-29 bomber was outfitted in the late 1940s, early 50s or so, to begin to track magnetics, the northern magnetic pole, which is what actually opened up the polar routes to commercial airline travel.
It was one of the most valuable studies that the military has done, I think, in the past 50 years or so.
art bell
I was shocked when that happened.
And I remember, suddenly, planes were going over the pole.
unidentified
Indeed.
sean david morton
And this occurred because they, and this is one of the things that they found, and this was then studied by the Rand Corporation in Santa Monica and a number of think tanks, is that this is what terrified them.
And there's a huge report on this, a big white paper that you can actually still find today in a book called World in Peril.
art bell
Now, let me be straight about what they were terrified of.
They were terrified of the amount of solar radiation that they might encounter or what.
sean david morton
Oh, no, well, this is what they discovered.
They discovered that there's what we call a magnetic North Pole, and then the magnetic North Pole is actually divided up into there's actually three magnetic North Poles, and it is near the natural, what we call the natural North Pole.
In other words, the magnetic North Pole is somewhere near, I believe it's called Boothsby Bay, Canada.
art bell
Well, yes, it's been drifting westward, right?
sean david morton
It's been drifting towards the actual axis.
In other words, there's the magnetic pole, and then there's what we call true north, which is the actual northern axis of the planet.
One of the things that they discovered was that the magnetic poles of the planet were relatively stable from when it was first measured approximately somewhere in the late 1800s or so, up until they started actually testing it up until about, well, when they started doing this, 1946, 47.
And one of the things that started really worrying them was that you had magnetic north and true north were starting to come together, and that somehow the Earth had been knocked slightly off its axis, and that this was the result of massive atomic testing that started in 1945.
And then, of course, I think they dropped somewhere to the tune of about 1,500 nuclear bombs on Nevada, our biggest enemy, because they dropped the biggest number of bombs there.
And that between cobalt bombs and hydrogen bombs and all of the various testing, that the Earth had been knocked slightly off kilter, if you will.
And that one of the things that they were discovering was Magnetic North was drifting towards True North.
And the findings, and I'll put this all in a nutshell because we've got so many other things to talk about.
The finding of this was, is that they found that as magnetic and true north began to drift closer and closer together, that there would, and this was in the report in the 50s, that you would see massive storm fronts, amazing hurricanes, hurricanes that they would have to reclassify because they would move beyond, I think, the Force 5 that they are, the classification now.
The melting of the polar ice caps, all of these things that you find, the quickening on all of the things that are happening now, would begin to occur as the magnetic field of the planet, as magnetic north began to move towards true north.
art bell
This is all very interesting.
Do you believe that?
Do you believe the Earth was actually knocked off its axis by atomic testing?
sean david morton
It wasn't a question of believing it or not.
This made the front cover of Look magazine in 1967 and was then studied extensively by the Rand Corporation in Santa Monica, who built a gigantic model of the Earth.
art bell
You're saying it's fact.
sean david morton
It's fact, yeah.
I'm saying that.
art bell
Well, it sure is one I didn't know about.
I didn't know we'd been knocked off our axis, and that would seem to be a big headline for someone to put across newspaper, Earth knocked off axis.
sean david morton
Well, when they printed it in most of the major newspapers, it was just one of those concepts that was too big for people to kind of handle.
What the Rand Corporation found, and this is what I think you'll find the most interesting, is that when they built this huge, and in the think tank right in Santa Monica, you know, right off the 10 freeway there, they built this huge scale model of the planet that had the magnetic fields and magma and the whole thing.
And what happened was that when True North and Magnetic North met, they actually found that their model of the Earth actually wobbled over on its side approximately 60% of the time.
The other 40% of the time, the North-South magnetic poles flipped.
In other words, the whole model didn't flip over, but the North-South magnetic poles actually flipped.
And that was in 40% of that.
Now, the military was considering keeping all this top secret.
Look magazine got a hold of it.
It then appeared in a number of magazines across the United States, and it was just one of those things that was like, at first they thought they had to classify it, but people just kind of felt, well, well, you know, if the Earth's going to flip over, what can I really do about it?
And it was just one of those things that was just too big for them.
But the biggest thing they were worried about, and this was the most interesting thing in their projections was, is that between approximately 2005 and 2012, that the space between the poles, in other words, it would move slowly at first 5, 10 miles per year, they felt,
and then it would begin to increase 15, 20, 25, 30, get faster and faster and faster, and their projected timeframe for massive weather occurrences, winds, and this possible electromagnetic pole shift, possible complete polar shift, was between the years of 2012 and approximately 2014.
And if you actually look at the Great Pyramid of Giza, and we're going to talk hopefully a lot about that tonight, the Great Pyramid of Giza, of course the ending of the Mayan calendar, December 21st of 2012, you look at all of these social, political, economic, and geologic cycles that are all coming to a head,
they all seem to come to a head once again in that same timeframe of 2012 to approximately 2014 or so, which was when, as I said back in the 60s, when the military was projecting that there may be this massive polar flip, and this would be preceded by all kinds of horrifically freak weather.
art bell
Is there any particular reason why Florida is the target of all this activity?
Any particular reason that you know of?
sean david morton
Well, outside of the natural geology, I mean, you know, we've gone through about 100 years or so where we've had a pretty I mean, there have been some really big storms that have cut across Florida, but when you really think about it, we've had a fairly quiescent 100 years or so.
And what's now happening is it seems that suddenly everything's beginning to wake up.
And we're now moving into, in other words, very slow hurricane seasons, moving into very, very rapid hurricane seasons.
Once again, and let me point out the movie The Day After Tomorrow, there was a lot of stuff in the press, actually, Day After Tomorrow, saying, oh, this movie's nonsense, and the science is all wrong.
Well, they apparently never read the popular science article that they did all about that particular movie in which a skeptic writer went to all the various experts in these various fields of climatology and said, well, what do you think about this movie, The Day After Tomorrow?
And every single one of them said that the movie they felt was scientifically accurate, even though in the movie, obviously the timeframe was condensed, but that you would see all of these things begin to happen in terms of 20 years.
art bell
Hold it right there.
In addition to that, it was learned the other day that the movie The Day After Tomorrow, though admitted by Chinese scientists to be collapsed in timeframe, the movie is actually now required viewing for Chinese scientists.
I said required viewing.
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With Art Bett watching TNN as the hurricane airs at Melbourne, Florida, and a whole lot more.
Florida actually this is going to cover a lot of territory, and it's a bad one.
We'll be right back.
Watching Anderson Cooper, you know, during times like this, I wouldn't kid you.
You know, I've got CNN video on in the background, so I'm watching.
And watching Anderson Cooper is kind of, I don't know, kind of interesting.
The guy is obviously enjoying himself.
And this is now the second hurricane that he's, you know, he's a big guy at CNN, bigger than the guys who would draw the short stick.
So he volunteered to do this.
He's enjoying his reporting.
He would seem to be enjoying it very much, and he's doing a very good job.
So three cheers for Anderson Cooper, CNN, the one down there.
Now, twice.
Once again, here's Sean David Morton.
Sean, since you're a psychic, this is a straight-out question.
If you, as a psychic, knowing what you know, if you lived now in Florida, Sean, would you move?
sean david morton
Yes.
And I've been, every time I've spoken down in Florida, you know, and I speak at the New Life Expo down there, I think like once or twice a year, I've warned people about this over and over and over again, that Florida is one of the biggest places in the United States at risk currently because we have globally, I mean, if you just look at the trends, take the psychic stuff out of it at first.
art bell
Well, I know, but the question was the psychic question.
sean david morton
The psychic question of it is, yes, I would, and I've told everybody since I've, every time I've spoken down there, you folks need to get out of here.
You need to move at least to higher ground up in the center of the state, up into the panhandle.
art bell
Can you look into the next year?
I mean, the remainder of this year, you've already said there's going to be another big one in Florida.
sean david morton
There's going to be one more.
As I said, the biggest damage from Gene right now is the fact that it's coming along the exact same path as Francis and that all the junk it's going to pick up in its wake is just going to turn this thing into a All right, but there's another one coming, and then next year, what do Floridians have to look forward to from a psychic point of view next year?
Well, if you're looking at, let's take it over maybe a little bit bigger over the next three years or so.
art bell
Fine.
sean david morton
The biggest thing that everybody needs to watch, because it's a trigger once again, is going to be the possible eruption of Mount Pillay on the island of Martinique.
And that if Mount Pillay erupts on the island of Martinique, you are going to see a series of huge undersea earthquakes, some very serious earthquakes in the western part of the United States, eventually, I mean, projecting out a little further in the future,
let's say about the next seven years or so, a landmass actually rising off the coast of Florida, which I see, and this is very far off in the future, as being sort of a rising continent that will eventually become known as New Atlantis.
And going all the way back to, I think, the first manuscript that I published back in September of 1992 when I published a map in there called the Millennium Factor, I always saw that it was going to be the East Coast that was going to have, and Florida specifically, when it breaks up into an actual chain of islands, with most of Florida being at or about three feet below sea level, and with the global water levels beginning to rise, once again, over the next 10 years or so.
And as these storms become more and more severe, as we move into the electromagnetic flux of the planet, this massive solar cycle, Florida, Louisiana.
art bell
There was a rumor on the net, I bet you saw it, that Tortuga, you know, the island, the Trader Island, that it supposedly disappeared after.
sean david morton
Is there any truth to that at all?
art bell
No, they found the island and apparently things are fairly well.
I mean, just fairly well.
I mean, you saw what happened to Haiti.
I assume that you've seen the incredible photographs from Haiti and the devastation that happened there.
Yeah, real devastation.
I mean, riots are going on there.
It's just it's unbelievable.
You know, the sewage and the water is knee-deep everywhere.
And it's a catastrophe, almost biblical.
sean david morton
Well, if you look at, let's take a spiritual road here as well.
If you look at when the hurricane pretty much skirted much of Jamaica, and Jamaica prides itself on being one of the most spiritual places on earth.
art bell
Do you see how weird the way it got to Jamaica and then made an immediate left-hand turn and went all the way across Jamaica before it turned?
It was almost like magic.
sean david morton
Well, if you look at, once again, the Jamaicans themselves claiming that it was because of their spiritual practices and their prayers.
I mean, you can't go 50 yards in Jamaica without hitting some kind of church there.
And, you know, and the Jamaicans really kind of hate the Haitians because they feel that Haiti is a, well, even the word Haiti-E is a place of black magic.
art bell
Okay, fine.
A wild question then.
Do you think it's possible that they did use some sort of power that we've toyed with and know about and they moved that hurricane?
sean david morton
Absolutely.
I mean, over and over and over again, Art, how many, I mean, and you have been the greatest promoter of this over the course of you being on the radio.
art bell
And then one of the greatest cautionary people you've ever seen.
sean david morton
Cautionary people, yes, indeed.
But that, you know, the power of, I think the only thing that can save us is the power of prayer and the power of mass thought and the power of in every way, shape, or form, the power of repentance and the power of prayer and the power of people's ability to focus on their higher selves and actually use the realm of spirit to, if not stop, possibly lessen things that are going on.
Now, I'm not saying that the people in Florida aren't, say, as spiritual as the people in Jamaica, let's say.
But, you know, the Chinese have an old proverb that if you build your house next to a dragon, it shouldn't matter that the dragon is sleeping.
And there's been so many people that have actually...
I'm thinking that, once again, that I think the spiritual nature of the people in Jamaica, and I think their faith, and I think the power of their faith, I believe, managed to drive it away from the island.
At least that's what many of the people that I know there claim, that they prayed very, very hard and that miraculously Jamaica was, in fact, spared.
art bell
Then, by extension, those with, let's say, a lack of great faith are open targets for this kind of thing?
sean david morton
I think in many ways, yes.
art bell
Implying the Haitians?
Implying, well, hell, implying Floridians.
sean david morton
Well, once again, I go to Florida and it's unfortunate, but when I go to the New Life Expos down there, and over the last couple of years or so, they were not particularly well attended.
There were not a lot of people that seemed to be interested in very higher spiritual things, at least in the place where I was.
Of course, there were a lot of problems with security because they had things down by the port, and they were searching people because the place they were actually holding the conventions were right near an oil field, I believe it was.
At the same time, though, God causes the rain to fall on the good and the bad alike, as they say.
And Florida just so happens to be geologically positioned in such a way that you have these massive storms.
And I think that what's also going to occur, and this is, once again, it's very unique that just over the last couple of days that we had the Jewish New Year in 57, 65.
art bell
My interesting side point, the National Weather Service, because of Yom Kippur, actually, and they never do this, they said, listen, if you're in Florida reading this bulletin, it was an official bulletin, be aware it's a Jewish holiday, and many of your neighbors may not be watching TV, may not be listening to the radio, reading newspapers, or doing anything at all to observe the outside world.
Please alert them.
That was in an actual NWS bulletin.
sean david morton
Well, that would be true, because on that particular day, you're not supposed to light any new fire.
In other words, not watch TV, not turn on radios, not turn on lights.
And yes, they're absolutely right about that.
I think it's interesting, and this is what I've over and over and over again, I've said this in every single one of my lectures and everywhere I've been on this program over and over and over again, that from September 16th, which was the beginning of the Hebrew New Year, 57,
65, through 2005, September, October of 2005, we'll give it about a month rain in there, that this year, we have one year now, about 365 days in change, was going to be a year of warning,
that we have one year now to get prepared, that we have one year now to prepare ourselves, to prepare our families, to get to places where we believe that we will be safe, to get out of harm's way, because after this year, and the most fascinating thing is when I did a documentary called The Prophecy of the Pyramids last November, where we shot inside the Great Pyramid of Giza for a few days or so.
And if you go down underneath the pyramid, I know you've been in there, and you go all the way down that deep, deep tunnel that goes underneath the pyramid itself, and you go into what's also called the pit or the well of souls, which is one of three paths.
You have the pit, which is sort of a downward descending, that there's three paths of mankind, that you have a path of mankind that goes all the way down to the pit or the well of souls, which are those people who continue to identify with evil, continue to identify with negativity, continue to basically just not care and get cast into this well.
You have the material path, which is those who wind up in the queen's chamber and go sort of the more is better kind of path, If you will, they just get involved with the material stuff and just keep going round and round and round and incarnating in material existences.
And then you have the upward path, which then leads to the incarnation of a messianic figure, and of course the sarcophagus, which I know you laid in there, and ascension.
In the pit itself, when you stand up in that room, that represents the year approximately 1900.
And when you move forward along the wall, there's a deep, deep well or hole into the ground.
And there's a lip on the edge of that.
It's obscured now because there's sort of a fence around it, so people actually don't fall in the hole.
art bell
And that would be at roughly what year?
sean david morton
Approximately 2004 to 2005.
According to the time coding.
That there would be this one year where you actually have a slope, if you will, that if you're walking in the dark during an initiation ceremony, you would be able to feel it with your toe.
And that one year period would be the warning time for those who choose a higher spiritual path to be able to move around the pit.
art bell
Okay, let's say that this is it, that we're in the warning right now.
Let's, just for the sake of this discussion, say, okay, this is it.
Warning time, we've got a year or so, and that's about it.
So from your point of view as a psychic, everybody wants to know, I get a million messages.
Please, where is it safe?
You've told us where it's dangerous.
Where would you, well, maybe I should ask, where will you go?
sean david morton
Well, the biggest, right now, over the course of the next few years, the biggest problem areas are going to be on the eastern coast of the United States.
Everywhere you're seeing, and this is why it's such a great warning, everywhere you're seeing over the past few months, it's been inundated all through Louisiana and Alabama, all through the lower bottom half of the United States, up through Texas, through Florida, through South Carolina, that entire area are primarily floodplains.
I mean, those areas continue to get inundated because it is natural for them to be inundated.
And these floodplains, they go in and they build, and then five or six years later, there's a big flood, wash them all out, they run away, they come back, they build again, and then they're all surprised why they get washed away.
I mean, the safest parts in the United States are going to be areas in the center part of the United States, areas, and I think still now, areas in California, areas up in the central and northern sections of California, all throughout the center part of the United States.
And I do think that globally the United States is going to be one of the safest countries in the world, relatively speaking.
However, and the caveat to that is, is that after 2005, one of the biggest things that we are going to see is people beginning to abandon a number of accoutrements to the material world, if you will.
The biggest prophecy and prediction leading up to the whole coming of this massive psychic paradigm change.
art bell
Is going to bring on the spiritual enlightenment.
sean david morton
Spiritual enlightenment and the physical manifestation of that spiritual enlightenment, which are going to be these communities that are going to be made up of a great number of people who are going to start losing their material things and material possessions through things like weather, earthquakes.
And as I said, this year to prepare, and this is why this program has been literally always on the forefront of everything that you can do as far as everything from the radios to investments in gold to investments in food storage,
all of the things that you've been talking about as far as preparedness, this quickening that you've been talking about, that I've been talking about, that however many sensitives or psychics or whomever you've had on the show have been talking about, I'm telling you that it's happening now, that we're in a phase right now where between 2004 and 2005 is sort of a great choosing time,
that we've got this one-year warning when all these things are going to start to come down, where there's going to be these great warnings to the people, and whether or not they are massive dreams or angelic visitations or a year for what you're talking about.
I mean, you know, we've been doing this 13 years now.
I keep saying, look, 2005, 2004, 2005 is going to be the timeframe in which you're going to have a series of political, massive political changes and collapses, economic collapses.
Earth changes are going to begin to speed up.
This quickening is going to start to happen.
And by this time next year, for lack of a better term, it's a seven-year period between late 2004 to 2012 that's going to be a seven-year planetary tribulation phase for the planet.
And whether or not this means a massive war in the Middle East, attacks in the United States.
art bell
Well, we're sure going to talk about that.
Okay.
Because I know that's another aspect.
I mean, what's going on in Iraq right now is a gigantic aspect.
All the way around.
You had things you said originally about Iraq and about the war.
And I presume that you can predict for us to some degree where this Iraq war is headed, because right now it sure doesn't look to be in a good place.
I know they paint the best face they can in Washington on it, but it doesn't look good to me, Sean.
What are your thoughts?
sean david morton
Well, this was exactly, you know, again, and I remember you and I speaking about this well before this started, almost a year before this began.
I talked about the first thing that Bush, when I predicted back in, here's a prediction made on your show back in 1997, I think it was, late 97, when I said George W. Bush was going to be the next president of the United States, that he'd run against Al Gore, that Lieberman would be his vice presidential candidate, you know, three years before it happened.
Then we talked about, you know, I kept saying, you know, Bush is going to be president months before this happened, and I got all the mocking phone calls when they announced that Gore was the winner, and everybody, oh, you're wrong, you're a big fraud, you're a big fake, and then, of course, they turned it around, and Bush won the election after all.
And then about a year later.
art bell
How many of those people wrote back to you and said, oh, sorry, Sean, actually, you hit that right on the money.
I'm sorry about that email.
sean david morton
None.
art bell
Oh, none.
sean david morton
None.
And by the way, the same thing.
See how people are on this program when I predicted the Northridge quake months in advance.
And I gave exact epicenters and magnitudes of the Northridge or the stock market or when it was going to go up and down over and over and over again.
And it's just, you know, the detractors are people that aren't paying attention.
I'm the first one to admit in my newsletter or on this program when I've been wrong, always.
art bell
You also have a lot of people who love you.
So it's not just detractors.
No, a lot of people dearly love you, but just acknowledging there are really active detractors out there.
sean david morton
The only guy that was right and perfect 100% of the time got nailed to a cross.
art bell
That's right.
sean david morton
And if you can't stand the heat, you get out of the kitchen.
And it's a controversial field.
It's something that...
And then I lived in Egypt when I was a kid, and then I studied Islam when I was there, and had Muslim friends when I lived in Egypt, and then went to Nepal and listened at the Bible.
And I married a Mormon.
art bell
So all of this qualifies you to tell us, along with your psychic ability, where we're headed with Iraq.
I want to know.
sean david morton
Okay, well, here's what's going to happen.
Bottom line is that Iraq has always been the road to Iran and Syria.
And what has occurred now is that with the U.S. invasion of Iraq, which most people thought would not happen, which is occurring now, Bush has now pulled 70,000 troops out of Europe, primarily is now pulling them out of Germany, bringing them back to the United States to either reassign them.
You will see, and this gets into other predictions as well because everything cascades from here.
I've been saying on your program and on George Norrie's show from February on, I kept saying, you know, look, Bush is going to win the fall election by a landslide, at least an electoral landslide.
art bell
And it looks like this.
sean david morton
I was saying this when Bush was behind in the polls by five or ten points, and George was saying, oh, you know, I don't know.
art bell
Now it looks like an electoral landslide if it were to occur as surveyed today.
sean david morton
Well, that's the, you know, and the debates aren't really going to change anything.
Bush still has a $250 million war chest that he's going to use.
You know, Kerry's running the lamest campaign I've ever seen.
I mean, so much so that even Jon Stewart of the Daily Show makes fun of him, saying, when's this guy going to actually start his campaign?
And I think he's going to be the Wendell Willkie of 21st Century.
art bell
Well, actually, I think he just did.
If you've watched him the last several days, he's been all over Iraq suddenly and finally.
But it's a day late and a dollar short, I think, for him.
Anyway.
sean david morton
Well, the way the war is going to expand is that, and you're going to see a change of the mission.
And I think a lot of it has been not only about getting Iraqi oil supplies, but has been a great deal about, and I think this is pretty obvious politically, about protecting Israel and a lot of Israeli interests.
I think we're going to fade off here.
art bell
But we've got to go to the USA.
sean david morton
We'll talk about the draft.
We'll talk about Iran.
We'll talk about Syria.
art bell
We'll talk about the Iraq.
I want to talk about the draft.
I want to talk about a change in mission in Iraq also.
A change in mission.
What do you suppose that might be?
Saving the Iraqi people?
Finding those weapons of mass destruction we haven't been able to find yet.
Let's see.
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What are we going to do?
Say all of a sudden admit it's all about oil?
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Music has great power, and I use it to set the mood actually for myself.
My guest is a very controversial psychic.
You know him well, Sean David Morton.
Controversial psychic.
I think that's probably a good name.
If a psychic is right a lot of times, or even most of the time, they get to be very controversial and they sure get enemies.
But that's the nature of that job.
You don't do that job without getting a lot of enemies.
And Sean has Them.
However, on the other side of the coin, from my mouth, you hear this.
He's had a lot of things that he's flat hit dead on.
So there's that side of it, too.
And that's, I guess, what makes him so controversial.
He'll be right back.
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art bell
All right, let's keep you up to date on Gene.
115 miles an hour.
The eye is nearly entirely on land in Florida right now.
But this hurricane has not yet begun to lose very much of its power.
In other words, we're still at 115 miles an hour, and the hurricane is moving west, continues to move west and not make that turn at 954 millibars, again, moving west.
One correspondent covering all of this in Fort Pierce just used the phrase intense devastation.
So a lot of damage, apparently, and we'll have to keep a very close eye on this.
I've been following it on CNN, and right now we are going to go back to Sean David Morton, the controversial psychic.
But again, Sean, you wouldn't be if you had a hit rate that just didn't do anything for anybody, you wouldn't be controversial, would you?
sean david morton
Oh, that's right.
And it's also, you know, the job of prophecy or prediction, if you're right, nobody likes you, and if you're wrong, nobody likes you.
art bell
Well, it is kind of a thankless job, isn't it?
sean david morton
It really does suck, to tell you the truth.
It's not like people like, I mean, if you look back in the old days to Daniel, to Jeremiah, to Isaiah, to John the Baptist, I mean, certainly none of them were well-liked, nor were they popular because you're telling people, in a lot of cases, things that they don't want to hear.
On the other side, however, I mean, I have people that have subscribed to my Delphi Associates newsletter and the people that I have subscribing and the people on the web and the email version and the print version.
art bell
Yeah, but would you choose this life for yourself again?
I mean, there have got to be easier paths.
sean david morton
No, I mean, I do this as a lot of my dharma, so to speak.
I mean, I really do think that I've been so blessed and received so much that I think that this is my way of giving back.
I mean, the newsletter is very successful, but at the same time, I have a career as a producer and as a film director.
I've got a really great, funny film at a lot of festivals in New York and Los Angeles.
And I've also been able to use my access to the media and being involved in the media with shows like Hard Copy and Strange Universe and whatever, I think, to get a lot of truth out there.
And it's all with the people for the eyes to see and the ears to hear.
art bell
Okay, for that group then, back to Iraq.
Okay, all right.
You mentioned change in mission.
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art bell
Well, explain yourself.
sean david morton
Okay, well, here's how things are going to shift, because it's going to go from the excuses it was before from weapons of mass destruction to .
Let me briefly say something that I thought was very, very interesting.
On this program and on Coast to Coast, on your show and on Georgia's show as well, when I talked about doing some remote viewing, there was a program inside the Pentagon called Project Foresight, and they'd asked me to do some remote viewing for them.
And there were some specific locations that I gave them.
On September 8th, there was an announcement on CNN that talked about the and I actually announced this on the show and I talked about the two things that I felt the weapons of mass destruction site.
Number one, that there were a number of these weapons that were actually moved into Syria, into the Al-Baqua Valley.
I talked about it on this program, and then the following, I think it was on a Thursday and the following Tuesday, there was a general that came on a Georgia show and said, absolutely, this is true.
They're in the Al-Baqua Valley.
I had said that the United States would be at war with Syria within 30 days, and I think within two weeks, instead of us going to war with Syria, Israel actually hit a number of spots in the Albaqua Valley.
Also, on September 8th, as I said of just the last few weeks ago, they're now talking about a number of these WMD sites that had actually been razed and that parts and pieces had been shipped into other countries because I had said on this program that the two sites that I saw,
biochemical weapons facilities, were very specifically being run by the Red Chinese, and that the Red Chinese are behind arming Iran, chemical weapons in Iraq, and that they were warned well beforehand in order to not embarrass them because the current administration has a lot of deals with Red China.
Red China has an economic stranglehold under the United States.
And this was one of the things claiming of the United States.
You're going to hear this more, I think, within the next 30 days of the United States demanding some investigation into these WMD sites that were actually raised.
The shift in policy is going to be that we want two things.
Number one, we want regime change in Iran and a U.S. presence in Syria to actually protect the northern section of Israel.
Now that we've actually taken Libya off the watch list and actually taken the embargo off of Libya, primarily so that we can get a lot more oil out of Libya, and I think, you know, due to the pressure by the Bush administration and because of their actions, they've abandoned their nuclear weapons program.
The biggest thing is going to be Iran.
And I stated on this program even before the Iraq war started that we were going to subvert the government, that the CIA is actively subverting the government in Iran.
I also feel, and this is my personal theory because I know how this technology works, but I think that the earthquake in BAM in Iran was somehow artificially induced, that it was a military earthquake-style machine, if you will.
art bell
Okay, but that's a lot.
I want to back up a little bit because I want to understand what you mean by the change in mission.
Are we going to be at war with Iran, or is it all going to be, as you mentioned, CIA behind the scenes bring-down kind of deal, causing, I don't know what, a civil war in Iran?
Civil war.
sean david morton
They're going to bring down the regime in Iran.
And the first way they did it was the BAM earthquake specifically allowed us to place CIA operatives and undercover operatives basically disguised as aid workers.
art bell
Didn't they refuse aid?
I thought they refused it.
sean david morton
If that's the case, then you're more informed on it than I am.
But I thought that they had actually taken a large number of actual aid workers in the BAM quake.
art bell
Okay, I'll try and get confirmation of that.
I seem to recall they refused it.
Maybe they later accepted it.
I don't know.
sean david morton
Well, one way or another, we do not want to go to war with the Iranians.
They've got a standing army of 125,000.
They have missiles.
They have submarines, once again, all stuff that they got from the Red Chinese.
And here's where the mission is going to shift.
Right now, the excuse was given for weapons of mass destruction.
The change in policy is going to be that because of United States actions in the Middle East, that we are now going to basically going to exacerbate a series of reactions from what were moderate pro-American governments there into what will be much more extreme Islamic states.
And the shift is going to be not weapons of mass destruction, but we have to subvert regimes that become these more fundamentalist Islamic states for the protection of the United States.
And of course, I think our biggest mistake is that with the removal of Saddam Hussein, you know, for as horrible as he was, he was a stabilizing influence in that region.
He was a moderate Baath Sunni, which is about 15% or so of the population.
We've now handed the country over primarily to Shiites, and the radical Shiites share the same radical Islamic faith and religion, or version of Islam, should I say, that's probably the best way to put it, as the Iranians, as a majority of Saudi Arabians, as Libya, as the Syrians.
And so we've taken somebody who was considered a religious Moderate there, who obviously had the country under an iron fist, and now we're realizing why, because there are all these warring factions in the country.
And it was one of the reasons why Bush Sr. didn't continue the war in Kuwait because he felt that by taking out Saddam that you would destabilize the entire region, which, of course, Bush Jr. has done, and that's exactly what's happening.
art bell
What change in our intelligence reporting or whatever caused Bush Jr. to take such a radically different step from dad?
I don't know.
sean david morton
I mean, when he went in there, I originally felt that the, let's say, the guys who are pulling a lot of the strings, I guess that's a polite way to put it, his original mission was to simply remove Saddam and make sure that the infrastructure of power was, in fact, intact.
What has now happened is that primarily with the force of Dick Cheney, they've gone in and just blown a bunch of stuff up to, basically just blown a bunch of things to smithereens, destroyed a massive amount of the infrastructure, and then without any bids at all, whatsoever, handed the contracts for reconstruction over to Halliburton, which of course is Cheney's former company, and now are in the process of getting these multi-billion dollar contracts to actually rebuild the country.
And I think that the powers that be behind a lot of this stuff are really angry at Bush for destroying so much of the infrastructure.
You also have to remember, too, that oil within the next few years is going to be a very valuable commodity.
Saudi Arabia, as far as every report I've ever seen, hit a lot of its peak oil production by 2003, early 2004.
art bell
all I've heard.
sean david morton
Which means that, you know, Iraq, which sits on a gigantic reserve, Libya, now it's going Is it oil?
Well, it is and it isn't.
The whole reason that we passed the sanctions against Saddam Hussein in the first place was to keep his oil off the market so that the price of oil would stay artificially high.
art bell
But that was then, and now the price of oil, look at it now.
sean david morton
And now it's skyrocketing.
Why?
Because now, even though the infrastructure has been destroyed, but a lot of it, remember too, a lot of the super high oil prices have been because of what's been going on in Venezuela.
So you can't, with what's happening with Hugo Chavez and because the U.S. and the International Monetary Fund and the CIA really hate Hugo Chavez.
art bell
I know, but again, to go back to the fact that Bush Sr. viewed Saddam as basically a stabilizing force, and as bad and nasty and torturer as he was, he was that.
He virtually was a stabilizing force.
I can't understand what could have been of such magnitude to cause a change in a decision of what happened big enough to cause the psychology to change and it worth being suddenly worth our going to war in that occupying an almost unoccupiable country.
sean david morton
Right.
I don't know.
I mean, it's not, these guys don't call me on the phone and tell me this stuff.
When they do call me, they give me like a coordinate.
They ask me for certain information.
Rarely do I ever know what it is.
For example, when I'm doing the viewing, rarely do I know what it is I'm viewing.
If I'm right, they call me back and say, well, you got that.
Here's another coordinate.
Take a look at this.
I don't know.
I'm not sure what's in the mindset.
I know that from the global game of Risk, if you will, that by controlling Iraq, we in fact sort of have the rest of Europe by the cajons because the reason France and Germany didn't want us to go on Iraq in the first place is because they were basically subverting a lot of the embargo and getting backdoor deals on oil from Saddam.
And we now control, you know, you remember, too, there's an economic war going on between Europe, the United States, or should we say the North American Union, which is all of North and South America, and Asia and China.
And eventually, the idea is to turn it into a 1984 global superstate where you have Eurasia, East Asia, and Oceania, if you will, being the United States and England and Japan, Asia being China as the primary force and mover in Asia.
And then, of course, Europe controlling Eastern Europe and Russia, which is exactly, if you read George Orwell's book 1984, with Emmanuel Goldstein being the ever-present, ominous, eternal terrorist, the concept of terrorism, which gives the totalitarian nation-state an excuse to constantly surveil its citizens for its own safety, if you will.
art bell
Are we at the beginning stages of a war with Islam?
sean david morton
Absolutely.
And it's been planned.
I can't even tell you how far back it goes.
I mean, I think it directly links, and this might be stretching it a bit, but I think it links all the way back to the death of Princess Diana, to her relationship with Dodi Fayed, to the Protestants.
art bell
That one gets me.
I don't see how this larger question we're talking about, and I know the psychic sort of dwelled on the whole Diana thing, but I've never understood how it mixes in.
sean david morton
Well, Dodi Fayed was a member of the, was a direct relation of the Saudi royal family.
is the possibility, and this may come out in legal documents later this year when Mohammed Al-Fayed actually files his lawsuit against the British Crown, that Diana was actually pregnant with Dodie's child.
If this were to occur, and I did a lot of research on this because I did pieces on this when I was working for hard copy, and if that were to occur, she would be married into into an Islamic royal family, she would have a half-bred Egyptian British child, and she would become, I think, a spokesperson for most of the Islamic world.
And I think that the wars were being planned as far back as 97, I mean, I know they were, being planned as far back as 1997, 98.
And all the way back in 1994, and I've reprinted these a number of times in my Delphi Associates newsletter when I talked about the Vajr Chronicles.
And I was on, I think, hard copy in 1996, where I said that there would be Islamic attacks against New York and Washington, D.C. in 2001, that these would then lead to a global war versus Islam, that you would have a Shiite majority of these countries.
And here's where it gets even scarier.
There are a series of predictions in the Quran that talk about the coming of an I-Man.
It's called an Ayman-Awadi, or just the I-Man.
And the I-Mam is supposed to be a spiritual and or religious leader.
And strangely enough, in the Quran, it says that the I-Mam would appear at the same time as Jesus Christ, and that these two would rule.
And that specifically, number one, the first thing would happen would be a great tyrant would be removed along the Euphrates, which is Saddam Hussein.
Number two, that you would have two eclipses in the month of Ramadan.
And we were actually in Egypt when we watched a lunar and a solar eclipse when we were actually in Egypt last November shooting our documentary.
I went a tour for two weeks, and then we shot our documentary for another two weeks after that.
The third thing is, and this is interesting, this is prophecies moving ahead, that there would be great violence and a great deal of murder and killing on the Hajj to Mecca.
And for the first time, they're actually allowing, because of the dangers in the Middle East right now, they're actually allowing people to carry weapons on the Hajj or on the journey to Mecca.
So if we actually see within the next period of time a great deal of violence around Mecca on the sacred journey, this was supposed to all be a preclusion to a coming Islamic leader that I have said for many years would come out of Iran.
And I think that there are a couple of very interesting candidates for this.
I think that the primary candidate would be Saad bin Laden, who is actually Osama bin Laden's son.
I don't think bin Laden is going to be a factor at all because I believe that he was killed as a direct result of U.S. military action in the beginning of 2002.
art bell
And actually, Sean, here's something that the American people need to understand, and I need to understand, too.
When you look at the world of Islam and you look at the extreme faction of the world of Islam, it's painted by America as being relatively tiny.
Now, I'm not sure how legitimately that's getting reported by the American press.
The real question is, in how much of the world is Osama bin Laden actually a big hero?
How much of Islam is really radicalized?
That's a big question.
sean david morton
Right now, the countries that count, shall we say, are Iran, Iraq, Syria, about 95% of Saudi Arabia, because it's only probably the 1% of the Saudi royal family that are actually Baath Sunnis, and the rest are primarily very heavy-duty Shiite.
Remember, it was Osama bin Laden's, his original jihad was declared because when the U.S. moved their troops in for Desert Storm 1, bin Laden was the one that warned that if you allow the infidels, as he called them, into the Holy Land, specifically American troops, that they would never leave.
And of course, they never did.
And that was his primary beef with the U.S. to begin with.
And then really, al-Qaeda began to build momentum.
art bell
But how much of the Islamic world, by percentage, do you think is radicalized to the point that we're at a war with them?
sean david morton
I would say, well, right now, it's probably 30%.
art bell
30%.
sean david morton
If you will, of about the billion Muslims worldwide.
art bell
That's a gigantic number, 30%.
Revolutions have been accomplished by far fewer than 30% of any group.
All right.
My guest is a very controversial man, a psychic, a remote viewer, Sean David Morton.
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Voyager Sobering are watching Mother Nature's Fury really unleashing.
It's one thing to talk about it, and it's another to actually see it happening.
And she really is unleashing on Florida.
There's no two ways about it.
There's going to be a lot of damage in a lot of areas.
This is a serious hurricane underway right now.
My guest, the controversial psychic, Sean David Morton.
He'll be right back.
Once again, Sean David Morton.
Welcome back, Sean.
Thank you.
Well, okay.
I've got a question for you, Sean.
You're sort of a part sometimes, you know, from an interviewer's point of view, as I listen to you, it's like you're a commentator a little bit of the time, a political observer a little of the time, and apparently a remote viewer some of the time, and then a psychic some of the time.
So when we talk about the insights that you have, what I'd like to know is how many of them come these days, these latter years, from remote viewing versus some psychic, you know, insight that you just get?
sean david morton
Well, it's an interesting question to ask.
I mean, every time I put something out there, if I get an intuitive flash or if I get a psychic vision or something, I try to put together a body of information that will back up what it is I'm going to see.
And I know a lot of things tonight also that we've been talking about now seem, I mean, nothing is as obvious, obviously, as the past that has already occurred.
But, I mean, I remember when we were talking about when, you know, when the United States would go to war with Iraq and what was going to happen with that policy, and all of these various things that I was talking about.
art bell
I recall.
sean david morton
You know, now it seems very obvious.
But when we were talking about them originally, I know I'm restating things that I've said on the show dozens of times.
There's even, and to answer your question very specifically, you know, and that's one of the reasons why I started the Delphi Associates newsletter as well, is because I wanted to put things out there and say, okay, this is what I'm seeing, this is what I feel.
And instead of just me jumping up on top of the house and, you know, screaming fire, I wanted to see a corroboration, if you will.
I always envisioned a group of psychics and or sensitives and astrologers and remote viewers that were all kind of looking in the same direction.
The one problem also with psychic predictions is that it's very, very difficult.
It's almost like the difference between driving a car along a road and actually flying in a plane, where you have two different vectors of time.
A car on a road, you have a specific timeline of miles and an ETA and so when you're going to arrive somewhere.
art bell
Let me rephrase my question, Sean.
Let's say that you have a psychic vision of some sort.
Do you use remote viewing to attempt to confirm that psychic vision?
sean david morton
Absolutely.
And I also work with maps a great deal, too, what we call cartomancy, where I'll actually, a great number of my Earth changes predictions have been because I've worked very specifically with and had a fabulous success rate actually working with maps and running my hands over the maps and actually getting energy.
unidentified
Right.
sean david morton
I'll give you an example of this.
When George and I were talking a few months back, George mentioned that there were all these experts that were saying that September 6th there was going to be a huge earthquake in Los Angeles.
And I said, it's not going to happen.
I don't know where these guys are coming from, but it ain't going to be that way.
I will say, let me make a prediction on this now.
My prediction then was that I felt that sometime in late October that there was going to be a fairly substantial quake in San Bernardino out near Riverside.
And when I say substantial, I'm talking about probably between a 5-5 and a 6 out in the Riverside-Cherry Valley area and that this was not going to happen until sometime around October or so.
Okay.
Meanwhile, now in this one-year preparation leading up to what I believe is a seven-year tribulation phase from 2005 to approximately the grand finale of 2012, everything is going to start to activate.
And let's take it back to the, you know, maybe it's, we should probably call this the day before tomorrow as opposed to the day after tomorrow.
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All right.
art bell
Well, that's fine.
Out of curiosity, though, again, how, for example, you've had this psychic vision of this cliff that we're about to go off.
How would you then use remote viewing to try and confirm something?
I know it's tough with time.
So is that possible?
sean david morton
Yeah, but it's all about focus.
You know, the whole point of remote viewing, and it's, you know, which is a fancy name, it's a way of taking, shall we say, a Western scientific technique that was developed at Stanford Research Institute by Russell Targ and Hal Puthoff and the whole gang there.
And I've taken the things that I've learned intuitively from when I was living in Nepal and put the two of them together.
together so that with remote viewing specifically you can focus in on a specific event.
It's very much like looking through a telescope though.
It focuses your attention.
For example, you could say, well, you know, you predicted the quake in Los Angeles, but let's say you didn't predict the quake in Japan.
And I would say, well, I can't be everywhere.
I focus on the United States because people live here and people have subscribed to my newsletter here.
When I go global with predictions and do things, when I'm asked by Japanese magazines or TV or whatever to predict things in Japan, and I've got a very good track record there as well.
art bell
Well, I'm sure you can't see things you don't look at.
sean david morton
It's difficult because it's all about focus.
Although things will happen where I'll just suddenly, my whole body will begin to chill and I'll get heart palpitations and massive, what I call headline headaches.
And there's almost like a general feeling in the time stream of some event, literally like going down a river in a boat at night backwards, where suddenly you can feel the currents and eddies of the time stream that you know that there's going to be a waterfall Or a huge rock, or a rapid, if you will.
And that's sort of the best way I can describe it.
Then it's all about: well, now I have to focus.
Now I have to sit down and meditate and see where is this coming from, and isn't it coming from an earth event, a man-made event?
And that's why it's the best technique for me to get out maps, scan the maps, see what's going on in the maps, because then when I get the feeling, it's almost like an energy.
And one of the things that I teach in my remote viewing classes to people when we do this, and we get out pendulums, and I teach people how to work with maps.
And I've got another class coming up in October 29th, 30th, and 31st up in Santa Barbara, the spiritual remote viewing classes.
And these classes have been amazingly prescient.
I mean, they've predicted everything from blackouts to earthquakes to hurricanes.
What I try to do is I try to narrow it down.
And if you actually get a flash or a charge, if you will, it's almost like the map is biting your hand, a spike of energy.
Then we take it and say, okay, September, October, November, and let's say, okay, okay, there it is.
There's another spike in November.
And then you try to take it to November 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and you take dates.
And what will happen is that you'll feel the energy begin to build into a window or what I call a plateau.
And it builds over a period of time of about usually a week to 10 days or so.
And then you'll feel the energy drop off the other side.
And this is how I've managed to be as accurate as I've been with earthquakes and with a lot of this phenomenon.
I also learned at the same time how to use this same type of technique for very specific stocks on the stock market.
art bell
After you've had a psychic intuition of that sort, though, are you then able to use remote viewing?
I don't know.
Let's just take an example.
Let's say something awful happened somewhere in Florida.
Could you then, once you knew you had a hot spot on your hands, look ahead at that place in Florida and try and get a remote viewing concept of what happened in the past or what's going to happen in the future?
Yeah, sort of to confirm a psychic vision of what's going to happen in the future, yes.
sean david morton
Yeah, once again, it's all the remote viewing aspect of it is all about focus, and it's all about, you know, for example, a remote viewing target, usually you won't really know what it is.
You'll get a coordinate of, you know, 758 aqua.
And whoever the monitor is will have an idea of what it is they want to project you to, and then you describe, you know, the picture, let's say, you know, because it's all about, it's like being in Mary Poppins and jumping in a chalk painting.
You get a 360-degree holographic vision where if the monitor knows what he's doing, you can then move backwards and forwards and up and down in time, you know, all around the specific space of the event.
As I said, the effect that I was getting, you know, the first thing that I got, let's take Gene as an example of this.
And when I wrote you my questions a couple of days ago and I said, look, there's six hurricanes, Gene is like five, and the number of six, you know, the first thing I got on it was debris just flying in the air, like missiles, if you will.
Here's what I got.
I got, it was like a thousand Trojan arrows flying through the air and like people under shields and hiding from arrows because that was the first thing I got was all this debris being picked up by the winds and the debris itself being picked up by the winds causing more damage than the storm normally would.
And as I said, I believe there's going to be one more.
art bell
Well, by the way, there's a Lisa out there.
sean david morton
I don't think Lisa is going to be much.
It's going to be in the M. It's not a K or an M. All the way to the M's, huh?
It's something after this.
And I think that this one is not going to, it's going to come up.
It's going to come up the other side around from the interior of the Gulf.
It's going to come up around the other side around by New Orleans, mobile, Alabama.
art bell
Oh, New Orleans would be awful.
sean david morton
Yeah, it's going to come up around the inside edge this time in a clockwise fashion.
So it's going to actually hit the upper side of Pensacola all around the other area.
And I think those are my six.
Those are the six that I thought that we would see major hurricanes in that area for this year.
art bell
So in a way, Sean, without being quite so graphic and direct, you agree with the people who say, you know, this is God shaking a finger at these areas that are being hit.
I mean, that's kind of what you said.
sean david morton
It's difficult to say because, once again, I mean, I'm not a person that gets up on the soapbox and yells Jeremiads at people, you better be good or God's going to punish you.
I'm saying, though, that these people, and every time I've been to Florida, and I'll say it again, I've said to people in Miami, I said, look, you living here, I think, is nuts.
And this is going to happen, and it's going to come, and it's going to take out a big chunk of this.
And at a future point in time, Florida's not there.
There's a chain of islands.
There's a landmass that is going to rise.
And this is why Mount Pele is a big trigger here.
There's a landmass that I see rising off the southern coast of Florida that at a point between now and about, and we're talking 10 years or so, but at a point between now and about 2015, I mean, it happens over a period of time as this landmass rises.
That landmass will be called New Atlantis, and Florida will eventually be a chain of islands.
And the bottom line is, like I said, if you build your house next to a dragon, it shouldn't matter that the dragon is sleeping.
And that with what is going to happen, with the hyperactivation of weather, with everything that you've been talking about, that I've been talking about, with what's been happening, those people, specifically Florida, New Orleans, all along the south and north of South Carolina, which are natural floodplains, which are already at or about three feet below sea level, are going to, and, you know, scientific fact, they are going to get inundated as the world water levels begin to rise.
And from 1991 on, I had always felt that the East Coast and Florida and that entire area would be hit first well before you had a lot of the catastrophes, say, in the Midwest or the earthquakes in California or the eruption of Mount Rainier, or any of the other things that we're doing.
art bell
Yeah, you're saying it has begun.
sean david morton
That this is the year, that right now, this is the warning year that people will be given a chance.
If anything, if God is waving his finger at people, what he is saying, it's not the middle finger, I hope, but if he's waving his finger at people, He's saying, I'm giving you one year to prepare.
And in that year, you better be thinking about buying possibly weapons to protect yourself and groceries and possibly gold as a form of barter.
art bell
What a nice future.
sean david morton
Or water or what have you.
Well, we're at the end of this cycle.
Everything I can tell you coming to a head in 2005.
If you study it from an ancient prophecy angle, talks about the seven years of 2005, 2012.
If you study it from the fourth turning or a simple political science angle, we're looking at the end of a series of economic cycles as well, as far as the stock market, as far as what's going on with the United States.
Politically, we're looking at an infusion of totalitarian government as things begin to decay into chaos due to a series of massive natural catastrophes.
And I've said also from the beginning that I've always felt that the United States will be one of the safest places in the world, that I believe that America has always been spoken of in prophecy as the second holy land that's been prepared in the wilderness, that I think the people of the United States will be a grand light to the rest of the planet,
and that what we think and do and say here has repercussions down through time, if you will, that act as a bright beacon of light for what is going to become a new and amazing civilization that is going to be based and more on things of the spirit rather than things of the material.
art bell
Okay, let's try a specific Osama bin Laden.
It was like Mrs. Hines-Carey had a psychic vision the other day.
She said, you know, I wouldn't be surprised if they found Osama next month.
Okay.
And she was referring, I guess, to the Republicans, you know, kind of like, well, they'll probably get Osama, and then the poll numbers will go up even further on the other side.
I don't know why she made the remark.
Maybe it was psychic.
Maybe it was just sort of, I don't know, aggravated.
But what do you think about Osama?
sean david morton
Well, I think he's dead.
And I've said on this show over and over and over again, that if they manage to pull him out of a hat somewhere, I'll be the most surprised person.
Let me go over very briefly.
On this program in 2001, December 23rd, I think it was, in 2001, I said that Osama bin Laden would be traveling from place to place and that the time of danger for him where I believed that the United States was going to kill him was going to be between January 25th and approximately February 5th.
On February 5th, there was a group of Afghans, if you will, which they believed to be Osama bin Laden and his entourage, traveling in an open space at night.
He was spotted via satellite, and we then sent a Global Hawk missile to blow up this caravan of individuals.
art bell
Hasn't Al Jazeera been airing things purportedly to be Osama bin Laden?
sean david morton
Did you see Donald Rumsfeld on the TV five days ago?
He got Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein messed up, but it was actually Donald Rumsfeld who was saying we haven't had a single video nor verified sighting of Osama bin Laden since 2001.
And actually he said Saddam Hussein, like Saddam Hussein was the one that they couldn't find, which I thought was kind of weird because he sort of mixed it up.
and I'll give you the specific areas of events that at that time we hit it with a global hawk missile there was a call that went out to Osama bin Laden's family to get DNA to test various blood and tissue samples I remember something about that What if they did?
art bell
Why wouldn't they announce that?
Tell the world they know.
sean david morton
Once again, I asked an intelligence operative, a very, very high guy in the NSA, you know, who's a pal of Quentin's, who was a close associate of George Tennant.
Yes.
And, you know, he gave me, because he heard me on the radio talk about this and said, look, I'm very impressed with your predictions because this is what happened.
We found blood samples of this.
We discovered that bin Laden was wounded very badly.
And I'll just give you the rest of what he said.
We had him cornered in a safe house outside of Caust.
We sent a Delta Force strike team in.
He managed to escape via a series of tunnels underneath the house itself.
They blew the house up, which then killed this strike team, which was one of the reasons this led to the decision to actually blow up the house that Osama bin Laden's son, I think it was Uday, was actually in.
Is it Uday or Tina?
art bell
I remember getting confused.
Yes.
sean david morton
Because George Tennant wanted them alive.
And Donald Rumsfeld said the presidential directive is dead or alive, and we don't want them escaping the same way that bin Laden did.
And their intelligence then told them that from the wounds that were inflicted on the 5th of February, that bin Laden had then died in late April, early part of May.
art bell
Why wouldn't we be broadcasting that together?
sean david morton
Once again, I asked him that same question, and he said because the United States would not be able to produce a body.
The bin Laden family was very powerful as far as anything he knew, that the body was taken somewhere to Saudi Arabia and buried.
He said also that it was more about that we didn't want a martyr.
It was more about chasing live bad guys than dead martyrs.
You know, and I asked him every question that you're asking me, I said, well, why aren't they spouting this from the rooftops?
And he said, because the bottom line is that everything I'm telling you is the best our intel can offer, but we can't prove it.
art bell
But isn't there increasing political pressure on the administration to get bin Laden, and all the time they know he's dead anyway already?
sean david morton
Well, it still gives us an excuse to actually be certain places and kick in doors and still run around and pretend we're chasing certain people.
Although I believe that in Pakistan, and remember, the Pakistanis have to come up with some sort of big win, which I think might be the second in command.
art bell
Al-Zawari?
sean david morton
I'm sorry?
art bell
Al-Zawari?
sean david morton
Azawari, yes.
Now, remember, the reason...
art bell
Oh, my God.
sean david morton
It's getting late.
It's been a long day.
That the Pakistanis specifically, they've got to come up with some sort of win because the United States, what they're hanging over Musharraf's head is, look, unless you come up with this guy and get us some kind of win before the election, there's a gigantic arms deal with Pakistan that's hanging in the balance.
And there's a lot of guns and a lot of planes that the Pakistanis badly want, which is why they've got 30,000 people in their army combing up and down Pakistan and moving into Afghanistan and searching for something to give the administration some kind of big victory.
Although I don't even think they need it now because Bush is so far ahead in the polls.
art bell
He is.
Hey, you know what?
We'll talk about when we get back.
A lot of people are going to be real interested, too.
We'll talk about the draft, all right?
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Okay.
art bell
All right, good.
We'll talk about the draft.
A lot of people want to know about the draft.
You think it's on the way right after the election?
I'm Art Bell.
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art bell
Sean David Morton is here, and we are going to take phone calls.
I hope you paid attention to those numbers.
They are a little different on the weekends, and be assured we're on a weekend right now.
A very strange one for the U.S. if you look at what's hitting Florida.
And what's happened so far is just downright weird.
If you look at the way these hurricanes have moved, if you look at the circles that they've taken, seemingly, I mean, you could take this position, I know a lot of you do because I'm getting the messages, that these almost seem intentionally aimed or re-aimed at our country, specifically at Florida.
You could certainly form that impression.
It might be totally inaccurate, but you could form that impression based on what we've seen.
unidentified
*Gunshot*
Would you?
art bell
You know, I'm not really a believer all that easily in, oh, I don't know, conspiracy sort of things.
I don't grasp them easily, as I'm sure you're all aware.
But it does seem to me that even a casual observer of what has occurred with the hurricanes so far, including what's occurring right now, if you actually followed what these hurricanes have done and you were to show the map to somebody, an unbiased person, I do believe they'd say, well, it looks just like somebody was aiming at Florida.
Aiming at Florida.
I mean, these things did twists and turns and gyrations and traveled thousands of miles to get to Florida in many cases.
Just weird paths.
John, could you share some of that feeling?
sean david morton
Well, I know that it is possible.
The Russians have talked about weather modification.
It's certainly possible to do with harp antenna arrays.
You know, I do think that there are so many natural cycles that are coming together between what's happening with the sun, what's happening with the South Pole, what's happening with the electromagnetic shifts in the Earth that I think that there are a lot of natural explanations for it as well.
I'm not saying that it is impossible.
It is certainly not beyond the technology that is available with satellites, with the Harper rays, et cetera, et cetera.
I'm not sure what the motivation would be.
I'm just saying that this is going to be that I think what's happening in Florida now is, as I said, we've gone through about a 100-year period of rather slow-moving storms and hurricanes, and now that's over.
Now we're moving into a much more accelerated period of time, as I said, between now and about 2012 or so, where I think personally they're going to have to reclassify hurricanes up to possibly come up with a class 6 classification for hurricanes between 180 and about 200 miles an hour or so.
And they're going to become much more frequent over the course of the next seven years as we move into this kind of U.S. tribulation phase.
art bell
All right.
I would like to allow the audience to ask you questions.
But before I do that, I want to allow you to give a good plug to your newsletter.
You do come on here and give us all of this.
And this is all Recorded and has been.
When did you start this thing?
sean david morton
In March of 1993.
We started, gosh, 11 years or so ago.
And actually, it was that newsletter where I originally predicted the Northridge quake.
And the Delphi Associates newsletter, the newsletter you have to have today because it tells you all about tomorrow.
It's very simple.
We've got one number for people to call.
That's 888-452-7999.
So 888-452-7999.
A one-year hard copy subscription to the magazine is $60 for a one-year subscription.
We now have an E-version, a PDF version online for $35.
And I also want to mention a couple of things that we've got also on the website at DelphiAssociates.org.
That's www.delphiassociates.org.
We've got a brand new CD there called the Violet Fire God Force Meditation CD that is a fantastic bestseller.
It's one of the most powerful healing and I think planetary healing meditations that we've got going.
We also have the, for people that are interested in the Bible code, we actually have software from Israel directly from Hebrew University called Unlocking the Bible Codes.
It's a CD-ROM on sale there as well.
Also, one thing on a personal note for those that go to the DelphiAsociates.org site, we really appreciate your prayers.
Our beloved cat, Lestat, just recently had a tumor removed from his head.
And we were just at UC Davis today.
It was really a miracle that he managed to pull through the operation with his tumor that was about the size.
We're going to put actually the MRIs up on the website.
But the great thing about Lestat is that he was one of the first Norwegian forest cats in the western United States.
He's been a therapy cat for many, many years where we've taken him to hospitals and terminal wards and hospices in old folks' homes so people can actually get the love and warmth of a pet and a cat.
He's been used to teach kids about pet care and about responsibility.
art bell
Biobi makes it.
I went through much the same thing with one of our cats, and it's like a child that other people don't understand.
sean david morton
Well, these guys, the people at UC Davis, Dr. Rick Licouter and Dr. Westworth and all the people there, really performed a miracle.
He had a tumor in his head that was literally taking up about a third of his skull, and they successfully managed to remove it.
And he's in intensive care.
art bell
Also, congratulations on at least the successful surgery.
I absolutely wish you well, and I know what you're going through.
And here is a hard question for you, Sean.
sean david morton
Sure.
art bell
You advertised your newsletter that goes back to 93.
That's a lot of record.
That's a lot of record.
Now, if a dispassionate observer were to go through and pluck out the predictions you had made from 93 through now, what success rate would you show?
sean david morton
Well, it's hard to do.
It's not exactly one of those things that's been done.
I mean, I would put it at at least 80%.
art bell
That's very high.
sean david morton
There are, well, I'm good at this.
It's one of the reasons why it survived so long, and it's become one of the most popular metaphysical New Age magazines out there.
I mean, going all the way back to 93 when we talked eight months in advance, we talked about the Northridge quake, and I talked about where it was going to be, and my theories on it, going all the way back to gosh, the people that have made I mean, I've spoken to people in New York who, you know, stand up at my lectures and say, you know, I've made millions of dollars off Sean's stock market predictions by getting out of the market when I told them to in October 2000.
art bell
I remember that.
And I remember a lot of people credited you very highly with that because I got a lot of those emails.
So we ought to touch on the stock market.
But just one other hard question here.
Your biggest failure, your biggest miss?
What?
sean david morton
Biggest miss.
I think the biggest, I think it's, let's talk about the stock market.
I think one of the things that I've gotten, you know, I've gotten wrong this year is that I thought the market would go.
I mean, it's not my biggest failure, but I thought that the market would go to $11,000 and that we'd see a huge rally before the election, which hasn't happened.
I think that over the course of 10 years, I've got about a 90% hit rate on the markets.
And last year, as far as predicting specifically what the market would do, I was not exemplary.
I was just flat out wrong a couple of times.
I think my greatest strength has been, though, is that every stock, specific stock that I've recommended to people, we talked about XM Radio, and I predicted that you would get very seriously involved in it, and the stock would skyrocket.
I've talked about Palatin Pharmaceuticals as doing very, very well, and people have made a great deal of money off that.
I've talked about Pixar, about Apple.
art bell
You're like a politician.
See, you've turned the question around your greatest successes.
Remember now, I wanted your greatest failures.
sean david morton
Greatest failures would be, gosh, what can I trying to go back to the stock market stuff that we talked about?
Probably, let's say Mount Rainier.
I thought way back in like 96 or so, I think I made a prediction of an eruption of Mount Rainier, which never occurred.
And that was pretty big.
I mean, I have to go to pick out successes and failures.
art bell
Well, I'm sure they beat you over your head with failures.
I'm sure they do.
sean david morton
Yeah.
It's all they notice.
And I try to point out to people that if some people don't like the message, they shoot the messenger, and nobody's right.
art bell
Well, they almost always do that.
All right.
First time caller line.
You're on the air with Sean David Morton.
Hello.
unidentified
Is this Arbel?
art bell
That would be me.
And Sean's right here, so go ahead.
unidentified
Yeah, hi, Sean.
Hey.
Nice to talk with you guys.
sean david morton
Nice to meet you.
unidentified
How are you?
Sean, you're in the South Bay area, right?
sean david morton
Yeah, in Hermosa Beach, right.
unidentified
Hermosa Beach.
How does one get a hold of you as an independent writer to submit stuff to you?
sean david morton
You can submit it through the website at DelphiAssociates.org.
We love printing articles from people from all different walks.
That's the best way to do it.
My email is on there.
It's not like I'm hard to get a hold of.
888-452-7999.
You can leave a message actually at the 24-hour order line.
art bell
You gave that very quickly.
Give that number again.
A lot of people are trying to write it down.
sean david morton
Okay, it's 888-452-7999.
888-452-799.
That's the 24-hour seven-day week order line for this.
Or as I said, just go to the website and it says, you know, email Sean and it'll get to me.
art bell
Gotcha.
No problem.
Wildcard line, you're on the air with Sean David Morton.
unidentified
Hello.
art bell
Hi.
Hi.
unidentified
I have a question for Sean.
I know that mass consciousness can actually change the way the world works.
And I have experience with that because when Hurricane George came into South Louisiana, by the way, I live in South Louisiana.
I'm a star.
I believe that we actually pushed Hurricane George out and calmed it down to, we dropped it down from, what, a 3 to a 2, I think it was, where it actually hit land.
So my question is, if that's possible, and I believe that it is, what is it that we can do to lessen the severity of these coming changes?
Because I believe that we can.
It's just a matter of focusing our energy on doing it.
art bell
All right.
Well, that's a really, really, really good question, Sean.
sean david morton
Every religion and every philosophy, whether it's Buddhism or Judaism or Baha'i or Zen or every faith that I've ever come in contact with has a direct belief that spirit and the way you behave and the way you act has a direct effect on the land in which you live.
I mean, the reason we call them acts of God is that they are acts of God, acts of nature.
art bell
So she asks about mass consciousness.
sean david morton
Exactly what you're talking about.
But remember, and we keep talking about mass consciousness, but let's talk about the importance of the individual.
What she just said there is that I found that it is not the size of the battlefield that relates to the importance of the battle.
That small, focused, concentrated groups of people, it usually takes just 12 people, a perfect, what we call life force battery is six men and six women in a circle, male, female, male, female, focusing, getting into the eye of the storm, focusing on that storm, dissipating it, taking control and command of it, almost feeling as if the storm itself is within your body, and then diffusing it in your mind, sending angelic force and angelic power to diffuse it.
In the meditation CD that we have on the site, the Violet Fire God Force meditation CD, one of the things that I teach that I think is one of the most powerful meditations ever is how to open up that veil between you and the God Force that I'm going to be doing.
art bell
John, do you not have any concerns at all about whether it's six people or six million can affect a hurricane, if in fact consciousness can affect a hurricane, that a mistake, an error could be made, it could be made to be less at a certain point, but then because of that become even more at another point.
In other words, gosh, do we know what we're doing?
sean david morton
In other words, if you stop one event, the butterfly effect, if you stop one event, another event in the future will happen.
art bell
That too, yes.
sean david morton
Once again, I think that by people focusing and by people meditating, I think you're leaving that to a divine power.
And I think that by asking for help and for grace from the Creator has always been something that people need to do over and over and over again.
Biblical prophets, for example, my favorite prophet in the Bible is Jonah.
He went to the city of Nineveh.
He preached to the people there.
They repented.
They prayed.
And the city of Nineveh was spared.
And in every case, there is the grace of God and the grace of the Creator.
And the Bible very specifically states that if my people, which are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray, then will I reach my hand from the skies and will I bring the fish back, the birds back to the air, the fish to the sea, and will I heal their land?
And always, and every timeline can be changed.
Every disaster can be changed through the grace of the Creator and through people focusing and through people praying and through people asking for divine help and divine guidance.
And as I said, there's not a religion on the planet.
art bell
Well, I'm not going to argue with praying.
I'm just not going to argue with it.
I pray is fine.
But I'm talking about a secular mass consciousness attempt to affect weather systems.
Any foreboding about that at all?
sean david morton
I think it happens all the time.
And I think that people have managed to divert hurricanes.
I've directly been experienced with people that have actually stopped earthquakes or pushed things away from them.
art bell
Do you think that 12 mines would have a power equal to 12 million mines?
sean david morton
It depends on the focus.
As I said, it depends on the 12 mines focused directly, depending on that focus, act like an acupuncture needle in the body, if you will.
If you're at the center of a vortex, for example, where the ley lines all come together, where you're at the proper place on the planet, very much like a properly placed acupuncture needle, then yes, it can equal that.
art bell
Nevertheless, my question, the genesis of my question is about whether 12 million mines would have more power concentrated than 12.
sean david morton
The best way to answer that is that if an event is coming towards you, it's like a wave in the ocean.
And the only way to counter a wave in the ocean breaking on the shore, if you want to stop that wave from breaking on the shore, you have to hit that wave with an equal and opposite wave.
If one person jumps into the wave, the wave, the timeline, if you will, will just open up around that person and then close in and the wave will hit.
It's sort of like if you go back in time and you kill Hitler, because you haven't changed the mass consciousness, somebody else, you know, Heil Joe Schmo, will spring up the next day to take his place.
If you have 12 million people, if you go back in time and you convince a million people that Hitler is going to be bad and negative, then you can change the mindset of the consciousness specifically.
art bell
Does that make sense?
I think it makes sense.
12 million minds, and concentrated properly, would have more power.
sean david morton
Well, that's the key to prophecy, isn't it?
If you have somebody that is a prophet, let's say, and that person has a track record if he's been right about this, this, this, this, and this, and you then have a building belief base, if you will.
Let's say a guy's have a track record where he's nine for nine, and then on the tenth prophecy in the prediction, you have those 12 million people listening to that prophecy and prediction, and then it doesn't happen because those people have then focused their power and energy against that prediction happening.
That's how you change time.
That's how you save the world.
art bell
All right.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Sean David Morton.
unidentified
Hello.
Hello.
art bell
Hi.
unidentified
Hi.
Am I on the air?
art bell
I hope so.
unidentified
Oh, I'm sorry.
Thank you for taking my call.
art bell
Sure.
unidentified
Sean, you're one of my favorite guests, and I have three quick questions for you, if you don't mind.
Sure.
One of them is what do you see for the Hawaiian islands specifically?
And then my second question.
art bell
Hold up, one at a time.
Hawaii.
Do you see anything for Hawaii?
sean david morton
One of the biggest things that I see right now, I mean, I see Hawaii actually fairly isolated from any of the hurricane stuff that I see mostly in the Atlantic and the Gulf of Mexico.
Years from now, and this is further on in the future, I actually see Hawaii as a much larger island that the chain of islands that, because of the readjustment of the mass of the water on the Planet.
I see Hawaii as being much larger, almost like a crescent-shaped island.
art bell
Islands get larger because of volcanoes.
sean david morton
Well, because of the volcanoes, but there's going to be, as I said, well, remember, the planet is always going to be two-thirds water, one-thirds land.
So, as there is a shift in global water and because of the volcanic activity there as well, I see Hawaii as a much larger chain of islands.
art bell
Number two, ma'am, very quickly.
unidentified
Okay, very quickly.
The beheadings in Iraq, with all the psychics and the remote viewers, it seems like nobody has been able to find this group of people that's doing these horrendous acts to innocence.
Do you see that getting worse, or do you see them finally touching um fundamentals who are doing these terrible things over in Iraq?
art bell
Why are we asking this?
Uh, why aren't uh hold on, man, you're pretty good, hold on.
Why aren't remote viewers and psychics like yourself uh telling everybody where the bad guys are?
sean david morton
Um, I've been asked specifically a couple of times that, actually.
art bell
The first time I said now you've been asked again.
sean david morton
I was asked, well, gosh, three years ago, they actually gave me a code word called Tamarand specifically about the whereabouts.
And this was back in 2000, you know, 2001.
Osama bin Laden and I talked about it, you know, an area outside of Caust and gave them exact specifics as to where I thought it would be.
And then a week later, I saw this huge operation that actually had the same code word that they gave me as far as what that was.
Remember, also for remote viewing as well, you can actually get a sense of the location and an area around where the person is.
art bell
All right, all right.
Hold on.
We're at a break.
We'll be right back with more of Sean David Morton.
I'm Art Bell.
unidentified
You got me running over and out of my mind.
You got me thinking that I wish it was dead.
Don't bring me down.
No, no, no, no, no.
I tell you what before I get up to fancy friends.
I'm telling you it's gotta be here Don't rule me down No, no, no, no, no I'm telling you it's gotta be here I'll tell you what's wrong before you get up the bus.
Don't let me down.
art bell
Profits sometimes bring it in, but that's the messenger thing, and messengers frequently get shot.
unidentified
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art bell
I mean, think about it.
Prophecy has gotta be a tough business to be in.
It really does.
Of all of them out there.
That's gotta be one of the profits.
We'll be right back with the very controversial Sean David Morton.
Once again, Sean David Morton on this morning of the hurricane.
And it is the morning of Hurricane Gene just rampaging across Florida.
The CNN coverage has been amazing.
Anderson Cooper is going to be called Hurricane Boy back at the CNN locker room.
He's really been something through this.
East of the Rock, he'd be fun to interview.
Yeah, there you go.
He'd be fun.
Sean, welcome back.
sean david morton
Thank you, sir.
art bell
Thank you.
sean david morton
And actually, actually, let me just answer one thing about remote viewing.
You were talking about why doesn't it help us hit the bad guys?
art bell
Yes.
sean david morton
Specifically, remote viewing was involved in the strike on Osama bin Laden on February 5th.
Remote viewing, I believe, was, and I didn't have anything to do with this one, but was directly involved, I think, with finding Saddam Hussein in that spider hole.
Remote viewing was involved.
art bell
Wait a minute.
Where'd you get that one?
sean david morton
Well, I'm just saying that the people inside, once again, I've been asked to work on a number of occasions by a group inside the Pentagon called Project Foresight.
art bell
Yes.
sean david morton
In that case, they said that, and I was not involved in this one, but I did ask them specifically about it.
They said that they were using remote viewing that confirmed for them Israeli intelligence, which then is what tracked him down to the spider hole.
art bell
Well, wait a minute.
I am told that our any government involvement with remote viewing ended.
sean david morton
That's just not true.
art bell
It's just not true?
unidentified
No.
art bell
I've been asking so many remote viewers, and they all tell me it's true.
Except you.
You're saying Boulder Dash.
They're still doing it.
unidentified
Yeah.
sean david morton
I mean, and there's been two executive officers in the past two years that I've worked with, both women, both colonels inside the Pentagon, who have taken over the project.
art bell
All right.
This nice lady had asked two of her three questions.
You're back on, ma'am.
Do you have another one for you?
unidentified
Yes, I have one more if you don't mind.
Thank you.
sean david morton
Thank you.
unidentified
My last question was regarding our freedoms as Americans.
We see them slowly dissipating, and especially with this airport thing this week where they started pulling ordinary Americans out of line.
We go through all these searches already, and now they're asking to pat people down, and if you refuse, you're not going to be allowed to fly.
My question was, do you see this getting worse, us losing our freedoms more, or do you see eventually ordinary Americans just saying enough is enough?
art bell
Oh, good, good, good.
Number three.
sean david morton
That's a great question.
Let me, you know, let's put this squarely where it belongs, I think.
Before George Bush was even elected, you know, months before that, and I was doing an analysis of what I felt his presidency was going to be like, I said specifically that the United States would be under martial law, that you would see a continued erosion of your freedoms.
With Patriot Act 1 and 2 both, using 9-11 and using the specter of terrorism, we have now given George Bush more power than any Western ruler has had since Oliver Cromwell.
This is going to continue, I think, as we, you know, once again, I believe that the draft is, and I've been saying this for, I can't tell you how many years on the show, that by next July, June, July of next year, we're going to see the draft reinstated, which is going to be a further involuntary servitude erosion.
art bell
June or June or July for the draft.
sean david morton
Next year.
art bell
That's a big one.
Yeah, that's a big one.
sean david morton
What's going to be, and I believe that there are going to be riots because of this, they're going to try to implement a universal military draft, which will be every boy and girl between the ages of 18 and 20 for two years of mandatory government-slash military service.
If you don't want to carry a gun, they're going to put you behind a desk or in the Peace Corps or whatever else.
You are about to see, because of the chaos, I think that's going to happen politically and economically, and terrorist attacks specifically on a city on the eastern seaboard, a whole new phase of tearing up the Constitution.
And it is horrific.
And I think that the only way that people can defend themselves against it is going to have to be people banding together to say exactly what this nice lady said, that enough is enough.
There are ways to get out from underneath the federal umbrella, if you will.
But once again, if you want to travel through the airports, which are federally controlled territory.
art bell
Just as a curiosity, Sean, if we said enough is enough, expand on enough is enough, what good could happen?
sean david morton
It's difficult to say because it's, once again, because of the media and the whole military-industrial complex, it's so pervasive.
I mean, you know, where it's moving, Art, is that they want to eventually chip the population and use the same types of chips, which are actually called multiple automated readout computer chips, or mark, if you will, which are the same things that they're using on military soldiers now, the chipping or marking, if you will, of soldiers, which all lead into a military computer that they call the BEAST, which stands for Battle Engagement Area Simulation and Tracking.
And at first, the chips in your hand or on your forehead are going to be offered like American Express gold cards, where it's going to be an honor.
And if you want to fly and not be searched and not be patted down and not be hassled, you're either going to have to give your thumbprint, a retinal scan, or an actual chip in your hand or in your forehead, which you'll be able to scan.
art bell
I can see that coming.
sean david morton
And, you know, with Digital Angel that came out of Florida, which is now being used on senior citizens and animals, and eventually, well, you don't want your kids to disappear, so you might as well chip Johnny and Susie.
And this is the oppression that this society is headed towards.
And you can go all the way back to the book of Revelation where it talked about taking the mark of the beast and the hand or in the forehead.
And, you know, this seemed like such science fiction even 10 years or so ago.
And now, you know, it seems like a viable reality, which I think is...
art bell
Ten years ago, this would have been laughed off.
And I mean laughed off.
The mark of the beast.
That's 10 years ago.
Not today.
Today, all you just described, to buy and sell and be safe, would be rather easily sold.
And even more so if a number of unhappy things occur in the country, and you're saying they're going to.
sean david morton
It's been in the plan for I can't tell you how long.
And I remember talking about it, and you were the first person that talked about it on this program years and years and years ago.
And if hurricanes happen, if food shortages start occurring, if there's a massive earthquake, they're going to need the chip to start handing out aid, to start traveling.
And, of course, once again, it's a 1984 kind of society where the specter of sort of this all-pervasive terrorism where everybody is a suspect is going to be used to say, well, you want to be safe, don't you?
And already they've got people so mesmerized by, you know, well, we want to keep you safe.
And of course, as Benjamin Franklin said, those who would trade essential liberty for a little temporary safety deserve liberty nor safety.
art bell
That's right.
Deserve neither.
All right.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Sean David Morton.
unidentified
Yeah, hi, Art and Sean.
Hey, I had a question.
My question is kind of, in all of the world religions, there's always a dark side to them.
And I'm kind of curious as to why mankind has this propensity to want to make Armageddon or the apocalypse come true.
I've never understood that ever since I was a child.
art bell
Wow.
sean david morton
Make it come true.
unidentified
Well, I mean, all right, look, in our society, we have a light side that we call the light and the goodness and church and religions and all these things.
And then there's the dark side, terrorism and military and violence and all this.
But they're basically a reflection of each other.
Where's the third pinnacle of that?
Where is the one that relates to the light seeing the darkness and the darkness seeing the light?
And then the third one being a combination and higher understanding of both and coming from that premise instead of living in the two other illusionary worlds.
sean david morton
Okay, let me try to answer that.
Once again, let's go back to the Kabbalah or Old Testament Hebrew scripture.
There wasn't really a devil, if you will.
I mean, Lucifer is kind of a modern character.
It's always, when you talk about the nation of Israel, there was always the punishments and the blessings were always given by God, that the Creator or Yahweh was seen as a parent, if you will, that punished a nation when it was evil and blessed it when it was good.
And that the bottom line was that here is a list of laws and rules that if you obeyed by these laws and rules, that your nation would prosper economically, politically, that you would possess the gates of your enemies, et cetera, et cetera.
And if you disobeyed these laws and rules, that you would then be punished.
Once again, God makes the rain fall on the good and the bad.
That there was the concept of both good and, I guess, what we would call evil were both flip sides of the same coin and they came from the same source, and that it was looked at when a nation was being punished was because of a directed disobedience to a code of law and ethics that, in essence, were a set of law that were very much viewed as the operating manual to the planet.
And if you disobeyed these laws and codes, that you actually brought on the planet the wrath of the planet or the organism of Gaia or God in the greater sense itself.
So in that prospect, when we're talking about bringing on an apocalypse or bringing on an Armageddon or what have you, the biblical view of it was that it was God doing these things as a punishment to people who became wicked or became evil, which is really lived spelled backwards, who are living backwards, or devil, which is lived, spelled backwards as well.
So once again, it was all viewed sort of in a parental aspect over the course of time that you actually had the Creator granting blessings or granting punishments based on the personal behavior or beliefs or spirituality of the society.
art bell
Does that make sense?
Yeah, it does.
It feels like the beginning of the punishment cycle.
sean david morton
Well, exactly, very briefly, if you look at each nation that usually has an average lifespan of approximately 200 years or so, and then you move into, there's four cycles of 50.
And if you look at the United States instead of 1776, the final federal government with the Bill of Rights and all being signed somewhere around 1791 in the fall of 1791.
So 200 years going to, say, 1991, let's say 92.
We had a seven-year peace cycle that went until 98.
And I've been talking about this forever on this program.
And then I said that there would be a seven-year war cycle from 1998 to approximately 2005.
Well, of course, we're in that, and it kind of started when Clinton sent the Monica missiles over at Afghanistan and started the whole Kosovo thing.
And then from 2005 to 2012 would be that you would have seven years to prepare, seven fat years, if you will, then seven lean years of war, and then you would enter into a seven-year destruction cycle, which would start approximately from 2005 to 2012.
Remember, one other really important aspect of this prophecy was they talk about the Jews returning to Israel, and it said not a generation would pass away until these things would occur.
Now, unfortunately, the Bible talks about three generations, that a generation could be 30 years, 40 years, or 70 years.
And you had Hal Lindsay's and the biblical born-again Christians saying that 1988 was going to be the great apocalypse because that was 40 years after Israel.
And now you've got 70 years, which puts us up to about 2018, which is actually, in my timeframe, makes a lot more sense.
art bell
All right.
A lot of people want to talk to you.
First time caller line on the air with Sean David Morton.
Hello.
unidentified
Hi, Art.
I just got a quick question.
I haven't heard Sean here talk too much about the Midwest here.
You see, I'm up in Michigan here.
And I was just wondering about if you know anything about the Madrid fault line or any kind of prediction on it.
art bell
All right, well, it's true.
We haven't heard much about that.
It's known to be one of the biggest fault lines, producing one of the biggest quakes in history.
Sean, anything on that?
sean david morton
Absolutely.
unidentified
And a couple things, too.
sean david morton
If you're in Michigan, I'm actually going to be in Farmington, Michigan for the Farmington Funny Film Festival up there.
My movie that I wrote and directed, my comedy Joe Killianer is going to be showing there.
And also in Erie, Pennsylvania on October 8th, and then the Farmington Film Festival on the 9th.
So I'm actually going to be in that area.
Specifically, the New Madrid Fault, this is where I think that even though this is where I think the Bible code is very, very interesting, and I know this has come under a lot of fire recently, but the best Bible codes that we've managed to find using the Unlocking the Bible Code CD-ROM that we have on the Delphi Associates website is when we actually put in an event like the New Madrid Fault USA and put that code into the Bible code itself.
And the best codes that we found have been codes that have repeating years.
In other words, if it's predicted it happening in the past and then we get an event in the future, those are the best codes.
So for example, we put in New Madrid Fault USA and we actually got the year 1811, which is actually when the New Madrid Fault went the last time.
And actually, there were a couple of quakes, actually 1811 and 1811.
art bell
And with regard to the future?
sean david morton
1812.
And then regards to the future, very specifically, it said that there would be two great fracturings of the New Madrid Fault in approximately 2010 and 2011.
Things like economic collapse we put in, came up with 1929 and 2005.
Things we put in for Mount Rainier.
art bell
So your prediction then for the stock market, Sean?
sean david morton
The biggest thing is that the markets, I had always thought that the markets this next year, that we would see a huge run up in the markets, that you would see the price of oil drop.
You're going to see Bush completely revamp the tax code, which I think is also going to send the markets way up.
And I'd always felt that the markets were going to hit a new high in approximately the fall of 2005, that we would actually see a high conservatively as high as about $14,000 or so, and liberally anywhere about $16,000.
Now, one other thing, too, is that because I've been in error on the run of the stock market before the elections, I thought it would be about $11,000 or so before this.
The fact that the market has actually stayed fairly stable and that you have, of the Fortune 500 companies, 80 of them in the past year have shown profits, only 3 percent have actually shown losses, but it has been balanced out because of the price of gas.
The fact that the market hasn't spiked up the way I thought it was going to is actually great for the cycle.
It is actually buying us more time through the late 2005, early 2005.
art bell
I know you didn't get it right, but nevertheless, take a stab at where the market goes from here.
sean david morton
After Bush's reelection, and I think when the price of oil drops, and I think a few things will stabilize in the Middle East for a period of time, once again, I am bullish on the market until the fall of 2005.
I think the market is a good investment.
I also think that with interest rates going up, which is actually the sign of a recovering economy in some ways, I also think gold is going to be a very good investment, and I've never really recommended gold before this, but I think right now, if you get it, because it's down a bit.
But I would all bets are off after approximately October of 2005, because that is when all the political and economic cycles simply just hit a brick wall.
art bell
So the fall of 2005 a gigantic economic crash at that point.
All right.
One quick question from the wildcard line.
Hello there.
unidentified
Hello.
art bell
Hi.
Don't have a lot of time, sir, but let her rip.
unidentified
Okay.
This is Jim from Riverside listening to you on KFI 40.
Mr. Morton, I think your work is phenomenal.
sean david morton
Thank you.
unidentified
And I would like to have your comments on two things.
Okay.
First, in the late 40s and into the 50s and 60s, we did some upper atmospheric nuclear testing.
sean david morton
Yes.
unidentified
Is it possible that we unknowingly or knowingly cracked and shifted the ionosphere or the heaviside layer?
sean david morton
Well, I know that, for example, everybody on the planet right now has strontium-90 in their bones.
If you wanted to find out if somebody was really an extraterrestrial, you would test their teeth.
If they had no strontium-90 in them, because of those upper atmosphere tests, it had the effect of actually completely irradiating the DNA of everybody on the planet.
art bell
All right.
That horrible little piece of information aside, he did ask about whether there was any profound effect.
sean david morton
Absolutely.
And as I said at the beginning of this program, those upper atmosphere and the things we did underground in Nevada and China and cobalt and nuclear tests, I firmly believe have knocked the planet slightly off kilter, if you will, and are responsible for a dramatic change in the electromagnetic fields of the planet, which is beginning to speed up.
That when the electromagnetic north and true north meet, as the military believes, and I think this is what they think is the greatest threat between 2012 and 2014, and there's a direct prophecy about it in the Mayan pyramid of Chitsenitsa.
There's a direct, what they call the River of Fire, which is a trough between 2012 and 2014 in the Great Pyramid of Giza.
I mean, all of these things, once again, from 2005 to 2012, a seven-year tribulation period, and let me finish this out on a positive side to answer this as well.
Even though there are dire consequences and earthquakes and fires and hurricanes, this is going to grab people by the scruff of the neck, and it's going to shake out the fleas, so to speak, and it's going to drive them into new communities and new paradigms.
And at the same time, the bad guys are doing all this horrible, terrible, you know, trying to take away everybody's freedom.
You are going to have a revolt against that.
One of the most amazing, I think, spiritual and mental and intellectual revolutions that this planet has ever seen.
And that the Great Pyramids and the Mayan prophecies and they've predicted are coming.
art bell
I wonder how far it'll go before we get that revolt.
sean david morton
Well, we're close to it now.
And I think, and as I said, 2005, it begins.
By 2008, just as you would have the mark of the beast, remember, for anything that's evil.
art bell
Okay, listen.
There's an end to everything.
There's an end to us right now.
Buddy, thank you for being here.
sean david morton
All right, and my prayers To everybody in Florida, and thank you, and God bless you.
And I really appreciate our friendship over all these years.
Art, thank you, everybody.
art bell
All right, Sean David Morton.
Well, I think I'll be here tomorrow night, and we'll do more of this.
And I, too, wish those in the path of this hurricane, and it's a big path, Godspeed.
From the high deserts, I'm Art Bell.
Good night.
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