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Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - Open Lines - Time Travel

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art bell ▲ ● ▼		From the high desert and the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening, good morning, good afternoon, wherever you may be in the world's 25 or more beautiful time zones, all covered like a blanket.
		One way or the other.
		By this program, post-to-post AM, I'm Mark Bell, and it is my pleasure and honor to be with you throughout this weekend.
		Tonight.
		Open minds.
		That's right.
		Open minds.
unidentified		Now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I received endless suggestions for what we might actually do tonight, but you're welcome.
		People who have had very unusual experiences, you're welcome.
		You're all welcome.
		And so we'll just see what happens in the truest tradition of look out Charlie Brown because anything can happen tonight.
		That's what we're going to do.
unidentified		Let's take a quick look at the world.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The depressing world.
		Former Republican Senator Bob Dole suggested Sunday that John Kerry apologize for past testimony before Congress about alleged atrocities during the Vietnam War.
		And join critics of the Democratic president who said he received an early exit from combat for, quote, superficial wounds, and quote.
		Dole also called on Kerry to release all the records of his service in Vietnam.
		Explosions and gunfire shook Najeef's old city on Sunday in a fierce, very fierce battle between U.S. forces and Shiite militants.
		As negotiations continue to drag on for the handover of that shrine the fighters have used for their stronghold late Sunday, U.S. warplanes and helicopters attacked positions in the old city for the second night with bombs and gunfire.
		Militant leaders said that the shrine's compound outer walls were damaged in the attacks.
		This one I'm surprised about.
		Senate Intelligence Committee Republicans proposed removing the nation's largest intelligence gathering operations from the CIA and the Pentagon and putting them directly under a new National Intelligence Director, Senator Pat Roberts, Republican from Kansas, the committee chairman, unveiled on Sunday the most sweeping intelligence reorganization proposal offered by anybody since the September 11 Commission called for major changes.
		In an appearance on CBS Face the Nation, Roberts acknowledged the full details had yet to be shared with either the White House or Senate Democrats, but I can imagine in the halls of the agencies that have three letters, they're having fits.
		I mean, you can, maybe you can't imagine, but, you know, all the three-letter guys, CIA, NSA, and on and on and on and on, these guys are used to their little kingdoms of power.
		And to imagine all of that stripped away from them is almost unthinkable.
		Unthinkable.
		I'm sure they regarded it as unthinkable.
		So if you could be a fly on the wall in some of those agencies, you'd see them at full screen.
		Movies, God vs.
		Satan.
		Cast out space creatures at the box office.
		Demon Thriller Exorcist the Beginning debuted, get this, as number one, number one weekend movie, $18.2 million, displacing Alien vs.
		Predator, which tumbled to number four with $12.5 million.
		Studio estimate showed Sunday without a paddle, a comedy, three guys on a canoe trip in search of treasure, opened in second place with $13.7 million.
		And this is kind of interesting.
		I don't know if you're following the Olympics or not, but three got medals, and Paul Ham got angry.
		Here it says mad.
		You never get mad.
		That implies a state of mental instability.
		Angry would be the right word.
		The United States upped its gymnastics medal hall to seven on Sunday night.
		This would be the most since the Americans won 16 at the boycott at LA Games in 84, and they might not yet be finished.
		Ham, however, failed to meddle in either of his events, finishing fifth on floor, sixth on pommel horse.
		But he was more upset with the International Gymnastics Federation, get this, which acknowledged Saturday that a scoring error, a scoring error wrongly gave the gold in the all-around over Yang Pee-young of South Korea.
		Though FIG says it cannot change the results, they admit that it was wrongly given.
		They can't change the results.
		The South Korean nation does plan to appeal to the Court of Arbitration for Sports in hopes of getting a duplicate gold medal at the very least.
		So indeed, Paul Ham is not a happy camper.
		All right.
		There is the Zirgular news.
		in a moment all review as paul would say the rest of the story hey yeah Now, a few other things.
		This from Lorraine.
		Hey, R, did I miss it or did you address that big storm about a week ago?
		I heard it closed Death Valley, caused flash floods and mudslides.
		Was Trump affected?
		As you know, I'm only about 20 miles from Death Valley.
		Just raise the obvious question.
		Okay.
		I'm about to tell you a story, but first let me tell you that this evening late, somebody sent me some of the photographs that were taken in Death Valley, and I took one of them and put it up on my webcam.
		Death Valley got clobbered, and so did we.
		And I'm going to tell you that story.
		But first, if you want to take a little jaunt up to the website, coast2coastam.com and go to my webcam, upper left-hand corner.
		It says Arts Webcam.
		Click on that.
		That's a picture of a little bit of what happened in Death Valley.
		It was incredible.
		Oh my, did we have a storm.
		Now, that same storm, of course, occurred here.
		And in our case, what happened was a cell developed directly above the southern part of the Paramp Valley.
		And this was one of the meanest, biggest, nastiest, lightning-filled cells that you've ever seen in your whole life.
		It began at about 4 o'clock in the morning.
		Me being a night bird, I'm awake.
		I try to go to sleep sometimes before the sun comes up.
		That's always nice, so you don't have to see those nasty little rays entering your life.
		That's what a night person does.
		But at about four o'clock in the morning, it began.
		Oh my God, did it begin.
	And here's what happened.
	The lightning strokes began to hit the ground all around us.
	Ramona and me went out on the porch, on our porch, and thought, well, this is going to be some show.
	Now, remember, I've got a total of 13 towers surrounding my home.
	13 towers!
	One goes up 100 feet.
	The others go up 75 feet each, spread over 5 acres.
	And between those towers, I have stretched 1,600 feet of antenna wire, actually more, times 2.
	So 3,200 feet, the better part of a mile of wire on 13 very, very large towers.
	So from my point of view, we were going to get hit.
	I got the fire extinguishers out.
	I got ready.
	I was sure that I was going to be hit.
	But an amazing, amazing thing occurred, proving, I think, a point that people have wondered about for years and years and years.
	And that is, bear in mind, these towers are steel, and they're grounded.
	Even the guy wires that hold them up are all grounded.
	So we had lightning hitting, turning everything into black and white colors, lightning hitting on our ground, just, you know, 100 yards from us.
	You know, the kaboom like that.
	No weight between the flash and the kaboom.
	It was so loud.
	It was so sharp.
	It was so constant.
	It went on for hours.
	And we never got hit.
	Our yard got hit.
	In fact, you could go out and look at some of the little green weeds that grow in the desert, and they were charcoal, you know, where they got hit.
	But none of my towers got hit.
	Now, that's impossible.
	That is impossible unless the theory that my engineer, I called my engineer in Las Vegas, I mean, I was just amazed.
	He's the guy who put up the radio station tower for KMYE here in Perump.
	And he's in his 70s.
	The guy climbs towers like he's in his 20s.
	Anyway, he said, Art, look, next time this happens, take a pair of binoculars, and while the lightning strokes are hitting all around you, look at the very top of your towers, and you're going to see a blue, like plasma ball toward the top of the towers.
	And he said, what you'll see is you'll see the plasma ball begin to form as a strike gets ready to happen.
	But what's actually occurring is instead of creating, like Ben Franklin with his kite, something absolutely designed to attract lightning, you have created a zone of protection, a zone of protection, because these blue plasma balls are actually discharging rather than getting ready to take a hit.
	He said, I've seen it year after year in the work I do on towers, and this terrifying event, I mean, there's no way on God's green and or charred earth that I should not have been hit unless what he said is true.
	And that is that actually it discharges the lightning before it can happen.
	And so anywhere else but the towers get hit.
	There are so many towers and the discharge capacity of them is so great that it creates an actual zone of protection.
	But I assure you, during this horrifying number of, well, about four hours, almost five hours, it was terrifying.
	It was absolutely terrifying.
	We had lightning hitting all around us, those kind of close hits.
	You know, this storm just formed above us and stayed above us and kept throwing bolts like God's hand just going, here you go, here you go.
	Kaboom, kaboom, kaboom.
	It was really scary.
	And, of course, that was the same time my back was out, so I was powerless to sit there, you know, except to sit there in sort of agony and just wait for the one that was going to light us up.
	Well, it never came.
	And the only answer, the only answer to that can be that such an arrangement actually does create a zone of protection.
	So that's an amazing thing.
	And I thought I would pass it on to you.
	At any rate, here's something also: because I was not here last week, I guess Richard C. Hoagland made some comment, or some number of comments, indicating that I just might be a member of a secret society, or I guess that's what it added up to.
	And a lot of people sent me emails saying, Are you going to respond to that?
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Other than to say years ago, people began accusing me of being a CIA guy or NSA or a member of some sort of secret society or another, the strange handshakes and all that stuff.
		And, you know, I learned very quickly in doing talk radio that there's no point in denying such things because a denial only propagates more speculation.
		So I don't deny it.
		If you wish to believe that I'm a member of some secret society, that my strings are tugged by some dark shadow government figure behind the scenes, and that is what you're going to believe.
		And nothing I am going to say is going to dissuade you from that.
		So whether it's Richard or anybody else, no comment.
		No comment.
		You want to believe that?
		Go ahead and believe it.
		Here's one for the books.
		This is on Drudge, or it was about an hour ago.
		If you want to check it out, this is incredible.
		Matthew Drudge, he's a good guy.
		He's reporting the following.
		The weather service warning catches Los Angeles by storm.
		Report stated dangerous tornado headed downtown.
		The skies in the Los Angeles basin were fair Saturday morning when computers connected to the National Weather Service in Oxnard began screaming.
		Quote, at 9.25 a.m. Pacific Daylight Time, the National Weather Service Doppler radar was tracking a large and extremely dangerous tornado seven miles south of Glendale or about near downtown Los Angeles moving northeast at 20 miles an hour.
		An official bulletin issued at 9.30 a.m. Pacific Daylight Time warned residents that a tornado warning was in effect until 9.15.
		If no shelter is available, it said, lie flat on the nearest ditch or other low spot and cover your head with your hands.
		Nothing about kisses here.
		There was hardly a cloud in the sky, but the alert stated in horrifying detail, quote, the tornado is expected to be near Pasadena by 8.50.
		The warning remained on the state's Emergency Digital Information Service database for four minutes without any further comment until 0858 Pacific Daylight Time.
		National Weather Service, Los Angeles, Oxnard, California, please disregard the previous tornado warning.
		No tornado exists.
		It's not clear if Weather Service employees believe they were actually living through a shock scene from this summer's fuss film day after tomorrow, or if the event was simply a computer glitch gone horribly wrong.
		But one Weather Service staffer reached at the Oxnard office just hours after all the commotion, joked how someone there will surely be hiding in a ditch for this misfire, developing drudge.
		So there you have it.
		I'm sure that scared the you-know-what out of some people for a while.
		From Ananova, digital TV hides Earth from aliens.
		Now, this is something to think about.
		The digital television revolution means that Earth is less likely to be discovered by aliens, according to an expert.
		Frank Drake, and he is one, told the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence Workshop at Harvard that, quote, the Earth is going to disappear, end quote, very soon now for aliens.
		He says radio signals put out by traditional television broadcast antennas are indeed the strongest evidence of our existence in space.
		Traditional antennas put out about a megawatt each, and this radio wave bubble now is extending 50 light years out from the solar system.
		But more and more TV is now being delivered by cable, no radio frequency leakage to space, and by satellites that put out just 20 watts a channel on average, all efficiently directed straight down to Earth.
		However, Drake said it might also explain why we have so far failed to uncover any evidence of aliens.
		In other words, if other forms of life have followed the same technological path as have we, then the time when they're irradiating large amounts of RF that would go zipping right through the ionosphere and on out into space forever, that would be a very tiny amount of time.
		And that might account for why we haven't heard the others yet.
		Because look at us.
		That's what the story is saying.
		Look at us.
		We're about to be disregarding terrestrial broadcasting.
		In a very few years, it will end.
		Everything will come zooming into your home on, well, I don't know, a fiber cable or perhaps transmitted by a satellite, but no longer radiated into space, advertising our presence.
		Something to think about, huh?
		Yes, I've got a whole lot of environmental news.
		There is a dead zone out there.
		Actually, a couple of them.
		Here's one that's spread across the Gulf of Mexico.
		What is a dead zone?
		Well, a dead zone is a stretch of water that for some reason, sometimes scientists believe it's environmental pollution, but for some reason has absolutely no life whatsoever in it.
		A huge dead zone of water so devoid of oxygen that sea life can't exist has spread across 5,800 square miles in the Gulf of Mexico this summer in what has now become an unusual occurrence.
		Or is it usual, about annual now, caused again, they think, by pollution, the extensive area of uninhabited water may be contributing indirectly to an unusual spate of shark bites along the Texas coast?
		A scientist at the Louisiana University Marine Consortium said Tuesday measurements showed the dead zone extended from the mouth of the Mississippi in southeastern Louisiana, 250 miles west to near the Texas border and was closer to shore than usual because of winds and currents.
		So there you have it, a dead zone.
		There's another one, by the way.
		I think it's off the coast of Oregon somewhere.
		I'll look into that.
unidentified		i've got a little more environmental news then we're gonna walk or we got a lot open lines all night long it and The official website of Coast to Coast AM is www.coastacoastam.com.
		Log on now.
		Buddy are a young man, hot man, shooting in the speed on a finger.
		The world's out there.
		You got blood on your face, big disgrace.
		Waving your banner all over the place.
		We...
		Waving your banner all over the place.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, everybody, I want you to listen very carefully.
		The numbers on the weekend are a little different.
		We're preparing to do open lines.
		Anything you want to talk about, if what you've got is really good, then here's the way you get to me.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is indeed.
		And so there are the numbers.
		In a moment, we're just going to reach out to the larger gene pool out there and see what's going on with open lines, unscreened, unprotected.
		Well, you just never know what's going to happen.
		There's no way to ever know what's going to happen, but that's what makes it fun.
		Coming right up.
		Before I dive into open lines, just before that, there is one other item I absolutely want to get on this weekend, and it's because we just don't get the news we should get here in the U.S. We just don't get it.
		There's something going on with the media.
		I'm not going to try and address what that might be, but I'm going to read you a story that I think is very important, one that I think it's important you hear.
		It's from the UK news, of course, and it's entitled Hollywood Fantasy.
		Tidal wave disaster is just waiting to happen.
		Scientists says governments are ignoring the threat of a piece of rock as big as the Isle of Man crashing into the Atlantic, and they're not talking about something from space.
		It has everything you could wish for in a cliché-ridden disaster movie.
		A beautiful volcanic island in the Atlantic is on the brink of catastrophic collapse, threatening to unleash giant waves that will wreak havoc around the globe within hours.
		And while scientists try in vain to make their concerns heard, the world's government, governments, make it plural, all look the other way.
		But yesterday, a leading expert claimed the doom-laden scenario was not only real, but was almost being completely ignored by people in power.
		Bill McGuire, director of the Benfield Grieg Hazard Research Center at the University College London, said that a huge chunk of rock, about the size of the Isle of Man, was on the brink of breaking off the volcanic island of La Pama in the Canaries.
		Now listen carefully.
		When Professor McGuire says, it is not a matter of if the rock plunges into the ocean.
		It will trigger giant waves called mega tsunamis.
		It's going to happen traveling at speeds of up to 560 miles an hour.
		The huge walls of water will tear across the ocean and hit islands and continents, leaving trails of destruction in its wake.
		Mega tsunami waves are much longer than the ones we're used to.
		When one of these babies comes in, it keeps on coming for 10 to 15 minutes, said the professor.
		It's like a huge wall of water that just keeps coming.
		Computer models of the islands collapse show the first regions to be hit with waves topping 100 meters, or that would be 330 feet, will be neighboring Canary Islands.
		Within a few hours after that, the west coast of Africa is going to be battered with similar-sized waves.
		Between 9 and 12 hours after the island collapses, waves between 20 and 50 meters high will have crossed 4,000 miles of ocean to crash into the Caribbean islands and the U.S. eastern seaboard, as well as Canada.
		The worst hit will be the harbors and estuaries, which will channel the waves inland.
		The loss of life and destruction to property will probably be immense.
		Britain would not escape entirely.
		Waves of around 10 meters likely to strike the south coast four to five hours after the island collapses, causing damage to seaside resorts and ports.
		Such devastating natural disasters are rare, occurring on average about every 10,000 years.
		But La Pama could collapse much sooner than that.
		The thing about La Pama is we know it's on the move now.
		The island came to the attention of scientists in 1949 when its volcano erupted, causing a huge chunk of the western flank to drop four meters into the ocean.
		Scientists believe the chunk of land is still slipping slowly into the water, say another eruption is likely to make the entire western flank collapse, and when it goes, Professor Maguire says, it will likely collapse in about 90 seconds.
unidentified		Now, have you heard this?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I hadn't.
		Despite the potential scale of the threat, little is being done to monitor the geologic activity of La Pama.
		Only a few seismometers have been set up on the precarious western flank of the island, which do not provide enough information to predict when any eruption might occur.
		It's a very worrying situation, Maguire said.
		It'll almost certainly go during an eruption.
		The problem is that with just a very few seismometers on the island, we may not get the notice we need.
		The scientists called for an international effort to install more sophisticated sensors on the island, as well as global positioning satellite units to detect how quickly the land mass was falling into the ocean.
		We must have better monitoring so we know when an eruption is about to occur.
		The U.S. government must be aware of the La Pama threat.
		They certainly should be worried, and so should the island states in the Caribbean.
		They're apparently not taking it seriously, he says.
		Governments change every four to five years, and generally they're not particularly interested in these things.
		But I thought you might be.
		So there you have it.
		They're suggesting such a thing could occur very rapidly, and when it does occur, it'll occur in about 90 seconds.
		And if it is really as precarious as is suggested by this story, then, gee, don't you think they might want to monitor it for somebody with evil on their mind?
		It's such a thing.
		I mean, that's kind of like a rock on an edge of a cliff, only it's the entire side of an island.
		And I'm not trying to make any suggestions here, but we really have to be aware, don't we, of the intentions of anybody out there who would wish us ill.
		All right.
		Here we go.
		First time caller line, you are on the air.
		Hello?
		Yes.
unidentified		Reason George's hurricane experiment didn't work because he needed more time to turn the hurricane back because it's a big storm.
unidentified		He needed more time on that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ah, the hurricane, yes.
		Well, I have quite a bit to say about that.
		Did you participate in the experiment?
unidentified		Well, I didn't quite hear all of it when you knew he was doing it.
unidentified		I was trying to go in the kitchen and get something, and I didn't quick y'all experiment, but I think it do help every time, though, if y'all did it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, my position on this, I thought I had made very clear, and I would like to make clear right now.
		Mass consciousness and the power of mass mind is absolutely real.
		I was able to prove that to myself in a series of experiments that the long-time listeners here are, I'm sure, very well aware of.
		And so I did come to the conclusion that it was real.
		And once you've done that, once you realize that this is a real power, may even be a greater power ultimately than the atom, then you reach some sobering conclusions, or at least you should, and that is not to use it until we understand it, perhaps with more clarity than we certainly do now.
		A power that great is something, and particularly applied to something as powerful and unpredictable as a hurricane, could have unintended results.
		In other words, the mere fact that you're concentrating on it with millions of minds could cause its intensification.
		I've worried and worried years ago that experimenting with a hurricane, for example, could cause a hurricane to remain offshore and build in intensity or unexpectedly build in intensity, these words I uttered years ago, and then hit land with devastating results, and I have no way of knowing, nor does anybody, if that's what occurred, but I have cautioned many times about continuing these experiments until we understand them better, that's all.
		And I believe that George is now kind of onto that and is going to be very cautious about this sort of thing in the future.
		And I think that's a very wise, wise decision on his part.
		This is, by the way, a subject I'm going to certainly continue to explore, both because of my own intense interest in it, and I know yours.
		So we will explore it with guests, but I don't think that we'll do large-scale experiments until we understand the possible consequences of our actions.
		Wildcardline, you're on air.
		Hi.
unidentified		How you doing, Art?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Just fine.
unidentified		This is Steven from Columbus, Georgia.
		How you doing, sir?
		Great.
		Look here.
		I'm in a quandary of buying a high-definition television.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're in a quandary about buying it or what?
unidentified		Well, I definitely want to buy one, but nobody seems to know exactly what they're talking about.
		And I just thought, hey, Art Bell knows.
		I mean, he's in the business.
		He knows.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm not in the high-def business, but I do know more than I did.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I now have high definition here, and so how can I help you?
unidentified		Okay, let me ask a strange question.
		All right, is DVD high-def?
		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no, no, sir.
unidentified		It is not, is it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
		Present DVD technology has come quite a way.
		We have what's called progressive DVD, and it's not real 1080i, but it is so damn good that when viewed on a high-definition television, it's very difficult to discern from high-definition, the real McCoy.
unidentified		So in other words, if you buy a progressive scan DVD recorder, you're going to get close.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I have one of those, so you're going to get close.
		I have to stop and listen to me for a sec.
		Coming very shortly is a, I believe Panasonic is going to be probably first out the door.
		The blue, the new blue, what word I'm searching for, a blue laser DVD.
		And then we'll have true recording and playback of high definition on DVD.
unidentified		So in other words, if you record from your DVD recorder high def, you're going to get high def.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Once we get these new blue lasers, yes.
unidentified		How long is that coming?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm guessing it'll be out in the next few months.
		Now, let me give you a pretty big shot here, because I just went out and purchased a new high-definition DVR, and they just hit the market.
		And the one I have is made by Hughes, and it will allow the recording on satellite of 200 hours of high-quality TV or 30 hours of high-definition TV.
		And that just hit the market, and I grabbed one of them up last week and hooked it up, and so now I can record high-def.
unidentified		Are you very pleased with what you got?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I love it.
unidentified		I love it, too, man.
		Hey, you're the king, son.
		Keep it on, keep it on, keep it on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, take care.
		So that's kind of the latest word in high-def.
		That hit the street.
		There was an article in Popular Science about it, and I went, oh, my God.
		And I started calling around in Las Vegas.
		This is kind of an interesting story.
		And I'm not going to give the store a name, but I'm going to tell you what happened.
		I mean, this unit is just out, right?
		The very first thing to come along that will really record high def.
		And so I got on the phone, and I began calling stores in Las Vegas.
		And you know me, I've got to be first on the block.
		I mean, I went berserk, and I was on the phone for a while, and finally, I met this guy at a store, and I said, look, I want to know if you have this new DVR made by Hughes that'll record, you know, 200 hours or 30 hours of high-def.
		And he said, oh, yeah, I've got one here.
		I said, no, wait a minute.
		See, I've been down this road before.
		What I want you to now do is I want you to go back into the warehouse and I want you to put your hand on it so that you really know it's there, not just relying on your computer.
		I want you to put your hand on the box and tell me it's there and then I'll drive in.
		You know, an hour and a half on the road.
		I'll drive in.
		I'll be on my way to get it.
		Just put your hand on it.
		So he did.
		He went back.
		He said, okay, I put my hand on it.
		I have it.
		You can drive in.
		So I drove in and I got to this particular store and I sat down and I waited.
		And he got this odd look on his face.
		And there were whispers going on between several of the guys, the management, you know.
		And I hear one guy say, no, no, no, no, no, you can't sell that to him.
		Look at the computer.
		It says minus 13.
		That means these are all sold.
		Well, I sat there at that little cubicle looking like I was going to go postal.
		And I probably would have.
		Anyway, so pretty soon, you know, these guys are looking at me like, he doesn't look good.
		You know, we got it.
		What can we do?
		And so finally, after a lot of whispering went on, they said, sir, we're going to sell you one.
		This really should be going to someone else, but we are going to sell it to you because we promised it to you and blah, blah, blah, all the rest of it.
		And I sat there with, then finally, a big smile on my face came home and hooked it up.
		And sure enough, recording high definition is incredible.
		So there you go.
		That's the first way.
		And coming soon, the blue laser DVD.
		And so we're making leaps and jumps and bounds in high definition.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hello.
		Hello.
		Hey.
		Hey.
		It's Kurt.
		I'm calling from College Station, Texas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Texas A ⁇ M and the George Bush Library.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Recently, you had a show on about the fence.
unidentified		Do you remember that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, of course, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		With Peter Davenport, yes.
unidentified		Right, exactly.
		Well anyway, I did a little experiment.
		I hooked up my ICOM radio and I also do a little satellite imagery as well.
		And this is hobby stuff, of course.
		And loaded up my satellite tracking program with the newest Kipling elements.
		And sure enough, as they were passing over, you would hear just a little bleep.
		Pretty strange.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I thought what Peter proposed was dead on the money and absolutely could be done and was so disturbing to those powers that be that I sort of awaited a knock on my door saying, you know, saying, what the hell are you doing broadcasting something like that?
unidentified		Well, it works.
		I guess all you need to do is triangulation and a little time configuration.
		You can probably just knock it right out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I wonder if Peter has had a little knock on the door.
unidentified		Probably so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		For proposing such a thing.
		Because, of course, in addition to seeing any UFOs or anything strange, it's going to see every secret U.S. and Russian aircraft and space thing that passes over.
		I mean, that's real serious.
unidentified		Well, the funny thing is, you know, this element system that I have is supposed to have every listed satellite.
unidentified		Sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you can correlate that against what you actually observe and say, yep, there was so-and-so.
unidentified		Right, but you also get the sounds that aren't there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Who is it?
		Ain't it wonderful that we live in a free country still?
		Yes.
		Thank you, sir.
unidentified		Thank you, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
		Yes, we still live in a place where the average citizen can, well, I don't know, you know, do things that would potentially upset our own government and get away with it.
		That's the beauty of, I guess, where we live.
		West of the Rockies, you're on here.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Hey, how you doing?
unidentified		Alex here in Long Beach, California on 640 KFI.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Alex.
unidentified		Hey, I'm a little nervous here, so bear with me, okay, you guys?
		Back in 99, I first started listening to you, I think late 98.
		And in 99, I moved up to Northern California, my way up to Oregon.
		I stopped off in a small town right near the Oregon border.
		Can I get the name of the town?
		Sure.
		Waireka, California.
		Actually, it's quite like, you know, a big foot country if you guys call it.
		Anyway, my story is, I was taking care of my sister's hardware store for the summer.
		He was helping her out.
		It's really slow up there.
		One day, this old, old gentleman came in.
		Must have been late 80s, mid-80s, I guess.
		He kind of walked around the store, kind of picked up shovels and kind of, you know, looked around.
		I finally said to him, hey, old timer, how you doing?
		He walked over.
		He's like, well, this is what makes the story so real for me, at least.
		And I've never called you before.
		I never actually really shared the story with anybody else other than you and maybe a couple friends.
		And he said, well, not much.
		I'm taking care of my sister that's dying.
		My wife, she's dying too, you know, in a valley nearby.
		I was like, oh.
		And since he had like an old Air Force type looking jacket on.
		Have you ever seen those old jackets the old timers wear from like a long time ago?
		They wore the hats with it and stuff?
		Yeah.
		You know, and I looked at him.
		He's like, well, okay, this guy was probably in some military, Air Force or something.
		Who knows?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, listen.
		Listen, hold your story.
		We got a break coming up.
		Can you hold on?
		All right.
unidentified		Sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good.
		Hold it right there.
		Tonight, this is what we're going to get.
		All kinds of people with all kinds of stories, some of which, well, you can believe or not, and a few of which are going to be absolute truth.
		So, within all of this, there will be nuggets that you may remember for years and years if you just keep your dial exactly where it is.
		I'm Art Bell.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is indeed.
		Good morning, everybody.
		Well, I just talked prior to getting on the air by actually a few moments with a very good friend of mine, Tim.
		He drives a big 18-wheeler.
		He's a ham operator, and we get to talk to Tim as he drives all over the country in that monster truck of his.
		Many times, He's on a route that takes him between Kansas City and Salt Lake City, Utah, and he passes through Wyoming.
		And I have a photograph that he got from one of his recent trips.
		This was frightening stuff, and I thought I'd share it with you since he shared it with me.
		A very gruesome scene, indeed.
		One dead, two or three critical.
		This occurred on I-80 between Laramie and Cheyenne, Wyoming.
		And there was a lot of fog in the area on the mountain that night.
		And he said to me on 75 meters a little before the show tonight, he said, I hate that damn mountain.
		And now you can see why.
		I just changed the photograph on my webcam.
		So take a look.
		This is one of the photographs Tim sent to me of what happened in Wyoming, just happened between Laramie and Cheyenne.
		It was a gigantic wreck involving all kinds of cars and many big 18-wheeler trucks like Tim.
		He arrived at the scene shortly after it occurred.
		Here's one of the photographs.
		It's incredible.
		So if you get a chance to go to CoastAM.com, upper left-hand corner, arts webcam, click on that and take a look.
unidentified		this was really a bad one would you
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So if you're a time traveler, if you're really a time traveler, and you would like to tell your story, well, then certainly I'm very, very much open to that.
		And I've also got a really good sense of when I'm being BS'd, so it's got to be pretty good.
		The reason I do this is because I think that if our society, if the world manages not to blow itself to smithereens, then time travel is almost an inevitability.
		It's going to happen.
		Eventually, we're going to acquire enough power, if that is indeed what it turns out it's going to take, or enough whatever.
		Perhaps some new science will come along.
		It always does.
		And eventually there will be time travel.
		So based on that, I'm willing to accept the fact that time travelers probably are out there right now.
		If not, the outlook for the world is rather grim indeed.
		Otherwise, they should be there.
		Now, would they talk?
		Well, possibly based on the assumption that calling coast to coast a.m. and talking about time travel or claiming to be a time traveler is not going to get enough attention to really matter, and so they can go ahead and tell their story.
		And we can listen and decide for ourselves.
		So, any time travelers out there, feel free to use any one of my lines and try and get in.
		Because I do indeed want to hear your story.
		And speaking of stories, we were right in the middle of one, this man dressed in the cap and the old flight, flight suit, the old fellow.
		So what happened?
unidentified		Oh, you there?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, well, true.
unidentified		So like I said, he walked in, he kind of looked around, and I saw this big grasshopper on the back of his shirt.
		I'm like, hey, what's that mean?
		He goes, oh, my name's Hopper.
		I used to be in the service.
		Like, oh, cool.
		And I go, hey, so I asked him a question I usually ask my buddies that have been in the service, the Navy or the Army.
		I'm like, hey, so, are those UFOs real?
		And he looked at me.
		He gave me this look.
		He walked up to the counter.
		This is an old gentleman, too.
		Red hair was taking care of his ailing family or his mother or his wife and his sister.
		He came up to me.
		He looked at me.
		Now, Art, I listen to your radio show once in a great while.
		I've checked your website a couple times.
		I don't really, I'm not into the UFO things, you know, that deep.
		You know, I've seen Star Trek, but it's nothing that really is that big of an interest.
		But this guy, he walked up to me.
		He goes, you know what?
		He goes, I'll tell you something.
		I'll tell you three things that happened to me.
		And so I stood there.
		I'm like, you know, I don't know time to kill.
		I'm like, sure, nobody else is in the store.
		I'm like, so go ahead, old timer.
		Go ahead, Hopper.
		What did you see?
		He goes, you know, one night, he goes, I remember two.
		He goes, it was 1939.
		He was pointing his finger in my face.
		He goes, you listen to me.
		He goes, I've never told anybody this.
		And I'm like, okay.
		And I go, wait a minute.
		You listen to that guy on the bar, the radio show, or you listen to the UFO.
		He's like, what are you talking about?
		And I was like, oh, I mean, this guy had a really stern face.
		And I was like, I guess he doesn't listen to those kind of UFO things out there, you know.
		And like I said, I hadn't listened to Art Bell that much or listened to you that much before that.
		So he goes, one night in 1939, my friend and I were going out to New Mexico.
		And he started mentioning names.
		And since I've heard on your show, you've mentioned Los Alamos in Mexico and someplace, Sandia Laboratories.
		Does that sound familiar?
		Yes, it was.
		And he goes, listen, he goes, one night my buddy and I were driving out to New Mexico.
		We had just stopped out of a diner late at night.
		We're driving through the desert and I fell asleep.
		He took the drive the rest of the night.
		In the middle of the night, my friend woke me up.
		He shook me.
		I woke up.
		I'm like, what's up?
		And he said the look on his face, he had never seen a look like that on anybody's face before.
		And he motioned for him.
		He goes, look outside.
		Look out.
		Look up.
		Well, he looked out the window.
		This is the hopper guy.
		He looked out.
		He looked around.
		And he goes, no.
		He pointed, he gestured, he goes, look up.
	And he looked up.
	And it took him a second for him to register.
	He said, he goes, because, you know what?
	I didn't see one star.
	And that night, there's always stars shining.
	And I go, well, what happened?
	He goes, I looked closely and harder, and I finally saw an edge of something.
	And he goes, this thing stretched for miles, he said.
	And I made a shape out of it.
	And he said, he goes, it was triangular in shape.
	And I finally made a distinction of like these fine, thin lights.
	And he goes, you know what?
	That scared anything.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I know, right?
unidentified		You know, and he looked me right in the eye.
		He goes, this thing Must have stretched for miles and it followed above our car on that road.
		And as the valley floor kind of dropped out, and they went to some cannon, he said it followed them for a good 20 minutes.
		And he had never been that scared in his life.
		Hold on, there's two, there's two more experiences he had to do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, we're not going to have time for two more, but that one will do.
		That's just fine.
		Thank you very much.
		It's I don't think it can be argued.
		They are here.
		There's something here.
		Period.
		There's something here.
		And too many million Americans have seen these things for it not to be so.
		They are here.
		The only remaining questions are who knows about it?
		Have there been deals cut?
		What is their intent?
		That's a big one.
		Remember, we were talking about that last night.
		Intent is a big part of any warfare that you conduct or are forced to conduct.
		The intent of your enemy as well as, of course, the capability.
		So we know so little.
		All we know is they are here.
		Anybody who's listened to this show for years now knows they're here.
		But what is their intent?
		Why are they here?
		Why are they watching us?
		And what's in it for them?
		What's in it for us?
		All those kinds of questions we cannot begin to answer.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
		Hello?
		Going once?
		Going twice?
		Go on.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Hello?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, hello.
unidentified		Wow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Turn your radio.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sir, turn your radio off, please.
unidentified		Are you speaking to me?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I am.
unidentified		Oh, it's off.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, good.
		All right.
		Where are you and who are you?
unidentified		I am the guy in your window with red eyes looking at you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good try.
unidentified		That's Bob of California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Yeah.
		Oh, we've been having some strange weather.
		But first, I've done some contracting work years ago with the Air Force for hardware, electronics, and stuff.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		We built parts for SDI, trigger assemblies and stuff.
		And I deal with the Air Force a lot.
		And they came in, and one time I was asking about what their latest toys are.
		And they said, this is about like 15 years ago.
		And they said that they had a new satellite and how it picks up enemy spy satellites in this mess.
		And they said it operates on a static field.
		And he had some photographs in his briefcase.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Photographs.
unidentified		Yeah, photographs of what it does instead of the high-resolution image, it puts like a line, basically a line around the object it captures.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, can you imagine that for many of us out here, it's a little difficult to believe that a contractor for the Air Force would have a sit-down with somebody with classified photographs of stuff they don't even admit is there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But, okay, go ahead.
unidentified		No, no, well, we did R ⁇ D, research and development stuff.
		They would come in there and ask us, we were R ⁇ D, and they asked us for the most unusual things, and it would take us maybe five or ten years to do it, but we would do it.
		But he did have photographs, and it's actually, they did release it.
		You could actually get these off the internet, these images.
		And it's not an image of Soviet satellites.
		It's images of our own satellites just to see how well it works.
		But one of the images he showed me in there, he said the very first, I don't know if you've heard about this, I think you might have, but the first image that they received, I'm serious, and you could research and talk to people on the Air Force, you may know, it was a disc with a dome on it.
		And I saw this, you're kidding me, right?
		This isn't real.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A disc with a dome on it.
unidentified		It was basically a traditional flying saucer.
		And this was about 22,300 miles up near our satellite satellite orbit.
		And I said, this is a joke, right?
		He goes, no, no, this is a real pet.
		I said, what is that?
		That looks like a flying saucer.
		And he just won't say anything after that.
		And I didn't get any information that tests ours or.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, are you claiming that photograph is available on the web?
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
unidentified		He actually said that, yeah, our first image, our first test image of this, when we used it, first used it, we got this image back.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It came back and it was Send it to me, all right?
unidentified		Okay, yeah, we could do that.
		But I was going to talk about the weird weather in California, actually.
		I just wanted to include that.
		And we'll send that to you.
		It's open.
		Japanese people have it too.
		They've been talking about it on the news for years because they acquired it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What about the weird weather in California?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Other than the tornado that wasn't?
unidentified		Right.
		Seriously, I was on the freeway and I saw a huge dirt devil to the right of me.
		It was probably about 40 feet high, and I knew it was coming towards me.
		I said, oh, my God.
		I gripped the steering wheel really hard.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where was that?
unidentified		That was, I think, Friday or Saturday.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, where, sir?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where?
unidentified		Oh, that was heading towards L.A. I was on the 110 freeway.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, maybe that's what, maybe somebody made some kind of report that got forwarded in the National Weather Service or something.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Who knows?
unidentified		Yeah, maybe that's what they saw because what I saw was a little tornado, and I grabbed my steering wheel.
		It basically a dirt devil, you know, something 40 feet tall.
		It was dirt just spinning around, heading towards the freeway.
		I said, oh, my God, it's going to hit me, you know.
		And I was driving, but luckily it didn't hit me because, you know, you get a wind that powerful.
		It could knock your vehicle over in the freeway.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely, yes.
unidentified		And I just kept going.
		I looked.
		I went, God, that's sort of unusual.
		And the whole day it was gloomy.
		And it's usually, it's summer.
		It's really hot here.
		And the sun didn't peak out until like 1 o'clock.
		And it was very strange.
		And I was wondering if anybody, if you've heard if they've been testing the harp or something like that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Harp.
		Well, no, sir.
		No particular reports.
		I know that harp testing is under way right now.
		We can hear it on the short wave bands.
		In fact, playfully, some of the guys have recorded harp and they've been playing it back, and it's very odd sounding.
		I think on some show past years, I did play harp for you, but some of the new harp sounds are really weird.
		I'll tell you what I'll do.
		I'll get harp recorded for you and play it here on the air.
		They're playing, I say playing.
		They're transmitting some very odd sounding harmonic relationships that could cause, well, we don't know, do we?
		Here's an interesting headline for you Californians.
		Global warming could affect California.
		Global warming could cause dramatically hotter summers and a depleted snowpack in California, leading To a sharp increase in heat-related deaths and jeopardizing the water supply.
		This is a story that was a study rather released Monday, and I'm reading from Yahoo News.
		The report is substantially more pessimistic than previous, was dismissed by one weather expert as, quote, another piece of climate alarmism, end quote.
		But the study published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Scientists focused on California because of its diverse climate, large economy, agricultural interior, and profuse rather, pollution from industries and population centers.
		The researchers used computer models, they say, illustrate the consequences of doing nothing or adopting, quote, relatively aggressive policies like the greater use of renewable energy.
		But what do they say can happen?
		Well, get this.
		The 19 scientists who prepared the report included experts from Stanford, University of California, Berkeley, and so forth and so on.
		If we do not take action now to reduce emissions of greenhouse gases, the consequences for California after about 2050 will become significantly more harmful than if we take action now.
		Under the most optimistic computer model, periods of extreme heat would quadruple in Los Angeles by the end of the century, killing two or three times more people than heat waves today.
		The Sierra Nevada snowpack would decline at this by 30 to 70%, and alpine forests would shrink 50 to 75%.
		The most pessimistic models show five to seven times as many heat-related deaths in L.A. with 6 to 8 times as many heat waves.
		Snowpack and high-altitude forests would shrink up to 90%.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		How you doing, Art?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm doing all right, sir.
unidentified		My name is Dennis.
		I'm calling from Jackson, Michigan.
		Welcome.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Hey, I got a cat story for you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A cat story, all right?
unidentified		Yeah, and I know that I'm a cat lover, just like I know you are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ah, yes, four of the furry beasts.
unidentified		I know it.
		And I think this story might have something to do with why I like cats so much.
		I was probably about eight or nine years old.
		And being as a young kid, I was a horror movie freak.
		Well, we had this big cat.
		His name was Smokey.
		And when I say big cat, I mean I'd say probably about eight to ten pounds.
		I mean, it was a big, big male cat.
		Yeah.
		And one time I was, the thing started out with, I was sitting on my bed one night, probably about seven or eight o'clock at night, and we had one of those toy organs, you know, and I was sitting on it playing it.
		And I happened to look over, and the cat was on the bed, and I noticed that its eyes were pure black.
		Pure black.
		And I looked at it and it kind of set me back a little bit.
		But then whenever I really started looking at it, it kind of hypnotized me.
		And this cat was in a crouching position and was crouching towards me, and its head was doing the serpentine thing.
		and i was scared to death and it kept coming closer and closer and pretty soon Not only did it stalk me, but it reached up and it took hold of my throat.
		And it held me there.
		I mean, probably at the time it was like two seconds, but it seemed like, I mean, cats' teeth are sharp.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
unidentified		And I've never been so scared in my life.
		And it held me there for about, like I said, two seconds, but it seemed like an eternity.
		It just let go.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you think your cat was possessed?
unidentified		I tell you what, that was the whole thing about it because when I looked at it, as soon as I looked at it, I knew something was different.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yep, the black eyes are a big tip-off, right?
unidentified		Yes.
		And so as soon as it let go, I ran downstairs crying to my mom and dad saying, you know, Smokey attacked me.
		Smokey had me by the throat.
		And they looked at me and said, you've been watching too many scary movies.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you did admit you watched many of them.
unidentified		Oh, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But you're telling me this is real.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Smokey had you by the throat.
unidentified		Yes, it did.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Could have ripped your throat out.
unidentified		So about two weeks later, this happened, the first time it happened was about the end of November.
		Then about two weeks later was in the middle of December and it was Christmas time and I was laying under the Christmas tree, you know, looking at the lights and my presents and what's going to be in them and everything.
		And I happened to look over and there's the kitty with the same black eyes.
		And it did the same exact thing.
		Took hold of my throat.
		I went running to mom and dad and crying and they said the same thing.
		You've been watching too many scary movies.
		Well, for another week and a half, two weeks, Christmas Eve, mom and dad are on the couch.
		My two younger brothers are laying on the floor with me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Very quickly, we're about to get a break.
unidentified		Okay, I happen to look over and the cat's got the same look in its eyes.
unidentified		I told mom that mom, Smokey's got that same look in its eyes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		That cat came over and grabbed me by the throat right in front of my parents.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so they immediately became believers.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What happened to Smokey?
unidentified		Oh, well, dad got up, kicked in across the room, and got out and shot a gun.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
unidentified		And me and my two brothers, don't kill Smokey, don't kill Smokey.
unidentified		Well, bottom line is, didn't kill Smokey, never did it again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for the call, sir.
unidentified		All right.
		Hey, Ertz, great talking to you.
		Take care.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, Smokey, no doubt, after looking down those barrels for a moment, decided discretion would be the better part of valor, nine lives or not.
		Shotguns seem to end things forever and ever.
		We'll be right back.
unidentified		Don't leave me this way.
		I can't survive.
		I can't stay alive without your love.
		Oh, baby, don't leave me this way.
		I really don't know why.
		Baby, when you need a smile, there'll go shadow in the way.
		You'll come to me.
		Baby, you'll see.
		Without you, baby, who's gonna help you through the night?
		Without you, baby, my life, who's always there to make it?
		Without you, who's gonna love you, love you?
		Who's gonna love you?
		Without you, who's gonna love you, love you?
		Who's gonna love you?
		Who's gonna love you?
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		So if you've got a really compelling story, a very compelling story of some sort, and we want to hear from you if you're a time traveler, feel free to use any line you're able to get through on.
		I'm always, always, always interested in time travelers.
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unidentified		Sounds of the air
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, back we go.
		First time caller line.
		You are on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Yes, Mr. Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Howdy.
unidentified		Can you hear me?
unidentified		I hear you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
unidentified		I'm here in West Palm Beach, Florida.
		Oh.
		And yeah, and I was listening to one of your shows about the guy that took a flashlight out and the UFOs would come.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		And so I tried that, and they came.
		They are here right now.
		I'm outside looking.
		I went and tried to climb.
		Wait, wait, wait, wait.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're saying there are UFOs over what?
unidentified		Yes, they're trying to get a green or red.
		They're circling my head.
		There's a circle of water.
		Hold on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Excuse me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you say Palm Beach or West Palm?
unidentified		West Palm Beach.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		West Palm Beach, right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How high in the sky are they?
unidentified		Oh, gosh, I don't know.
		They keep going up.
		Now they're all back over my head again.
		There's little orbs, and then the ones that look like a star, they change colors from red to green.
		One's twinkling at me now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, Dear, now do you think these are high enough so other people in West Palm would see them?
unidentified		Oh, gosh, yeah, they're right over my head.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, then attention, West Palm Beach, outside, please, looking up, and some that look like stars, some that look like little orbs, and they're all moving?
unidentified		Yes, they're right over my head right now.
		And there's one.
		See, I started, I was out here looking with my binoculars, and I can see the colors, them changing colors, because if you look at them with your regular eyes, they look like two stars twinkling.
		But they're real low.
		And I noticed that these orbs, there's a triangle shaped one right over my head right now.
		And they're real low.
		They come real low.
		And so I started talking, going, oh, well, you know, are you glad to see me tonight?
		You know, just talking.
		And all of a sudden, one started twinkling at me and moving up and down.
		And I said, did you hear me?
		And it moved again.
		And I know it sounds crazy.
		But so I started talking to it, asking it questions.
		And I said, move up and down for yes and sideways for no.
		And that's what it's doing.
		It's doing it right now, trying to get my attention.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now tell one of them you want to take a ride.
unidentified		No, that's what I did already.
		I made that.
		And they started coming down.
		I asked them if I could get a picture.
		And that's when they all moved in.
		See, I went inside to call you.
		Well, then, for God's sake, get your camera.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where's your camera?
unidentified		I have it.
		I'm just taking pictures, but I doubt it's going to come out.
		I only have a cannon.
		No cannon.
		Look at what I'm showing right now.
		A big one, a big white one, and it's turning green and red.
		I can see it with naked eyes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		I don't know what you're saying.
		And then they move back and forth in and out of the clouds.
		And then they move up and down.
		And they all move together.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Got it.
		Let's get the obvious thing to do, thank you, is to get other people in West Palm Beach out of their homes looking up.
		And let's see if we can get there are any number of ways to get hold of me by email or you can flash me on the computer.
		Send a fast blast on the computer.
		And let's get other people in the West Palm area out and see if others are seeing these.
		I'm not sure about the advisability of trying to communicate with them, but everybody, I suppose, will do what they do.
		And the person she was referring to, of course, was Dr. Stephen Greer, who has established communications using exactly that method.
		So who's to say?
		Let's see if we can get other reports.
		Wildcardline, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Yes.
		Hello, this is Wayne.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes?
unidentified		Yeah, and I'm calling from Asperia, and I have a story to tell you.
		Basically, I'll make it fast because I know you have a lot of callers.
		This clown appeared to me and my wife at night.
		First, I just saw some bushy orange hair in the doorway.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A clown?
unidentified		Yeah.
		You should be calling George with this, but basically, I hadn't seen it, so I know that my mind wasn't in that mindset at all.
		And then it just stood in the doorway, and it had the big shoes and a half moon and star kind of configuration on its outfit.
		Then it moved over to where my wife was and it just stared at her.
		About this time, my heart started racing.
		You know how it does when the adrenaline starts rushing and you start kind of panicking.
		And I said, I'm not in my right mind.
		I was even saying that to myself.
		I'm going to go see a doctor tomorrow.
		This is what I was thinking to myself because I'm crazy.
		So I tapped my wife and I go and he says, just tell me.
		I'm not going to tell you what it is.
		What's at the foot of the bed?
		She got up and her eyes get bigger sauces and she screams and she dies underneath the covers.
		And I asked her, what did you see?
		And she said, there's a clown at the foot of the bed.
		And so I became kind of angry at this point.
		And I got up and I went to squeeze the clown's neck.
		And right when I went to squeeze the clown's neck, there was nothing there.
		It disappeared.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I want you to make sure and try and call George and tell him this story.
		He loves clown stories.
		So plant that one on him, all right?
		That's a good one.
		I appreciate your call, sir.
		Thank you.
		Take care.
		And so he gave the clown a good old choke.
		That is indeed kind of a weird story.
		What do you make of all this?
		These things that happen to people that we're hearing on the air.
		These things that cannot be explained.
		These things that, I don't know, you'd say, well, he's crazy as a loon.
		But, you know, these people are not.
		I mean, in this case, we have two witnesses.
		So what was that?
		An apparition?
		A spirit?
		Something manifested from his own mind or that of his sleeping wife?
		Well, who knows?
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		All right, my name's Sharon, and I'm from San Antonio, Texas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hey, Sharon.
unidentified		Okay.
		On June 5th, in 1999, my husband, myself, and my daughter, who was 18 at the time, was standing out in our backyard.
		We lived in the city.
		It was a nice night.
		The moon was out.
		I'm standing there.
		We're just talking.
		And I look up and I see this light in the sky.
		And it's a beautiful blue color.
		And before I can say anything, it kind of gets brighter and then flashes across the sky.
		Well, when this happens, all the electricity goes out everywhere.
		There was no dogs barking.
		We lived close to a highway.
		There was no cars.
		My son-in-law and son were inside playing the PlayStation.
		You know, those PlayStation games.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		At least until the power went out.
unidentified		Yeah.
		So then my husband asked me strange questions.
		He said, what just happened?
		And I said, did you see that?
		And my daughter said, I'm scared.
		And I said, wait a minute.
		So we walk out to the driveway and we're out there.
		And it's like a good two, three minutes.
		This is going on.
		My son-in-law and son come outside and say, what happened?
		Goofy things.
		They said, well, did the moon just blow up?
		And I'm like, no.
		And I'm standing there in pitch dark blackness.
		Have you ever been to San Antonio, the Tower of Americas?
		I can see it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		My dear, I did basic training at Leviathan.
unidentified		Oh, okay.
		Well, even the Tower of Americas was out because we could see it.
		We live close to downtown.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So whatever it was knocked out all the power.
unidentified		Yeah, there was no sound, no cars.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, so obviously in a city that size, there's going to be news and news stories of what happened.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What did they claim?
unidentified		They did.
		Nobody said anything.
		That's what freaked us out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And for how long did the power remain out?
unidentified		I can't give you an estimate.
		Two, three minutes?
		And here's the kicker.
		When their PlayStation game came back on, you know, if electricity is interrupted, the PlayStation game will automatically start over and reset.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
unidentified		It didn't.
		Their little cars crashed into each other.
		The game was actually still going on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's pretty weird.
unidentified		Yeah, and the clock in our bedroom didn't lose any time, and it didn't have a battery in it or anything.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, that's doubly weird.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, so I have no idea what happened to you, but it begs questions about magnetic fields, I suppose.
		And perhaps even time skips or something like that.
		There's a lot of those that seem to go on.
		There may even be evidence that a time travel of a sort is occurring.
		And again, I refer you back to so many people who believed that Nelson Mandela had died.
		I was one of them.
		That that was in my memory, that Nelson Mandela had died, but in fact, he, of course, did not went on to lead South Africa for a period.
		Anyway, it may well be that when there is a time disruption of some sort, or a time traveler does something that disrupts the continuity of what otherwise would have been, that as Professor Kaku says, another bubble is formed, and we're all of a sudden in a world where an outcome is different than it would have been otherwise.
		However, some vestige of memory appears to be still in our minds about the way it would have gone if it hadn't changed.
		And that's the best way I can think of to explain it.
		Maybe, perhaps that was one of those moments.
		Western the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		My name is Anne.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Ann.
unidentified		Hi.
		I was calling going to talk about Roswell, New Mexico.
		I lived there for almost 14 years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		Really?
		There's a lot of, strange things, not just in Roswell.
		There's a place called La Luce Canyon.
		And there's an underground city there that the government has going on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How do you know about that?
unidentified		Well, we were all over there.
		A friend of mine used to live there.
		And our kids, being preteens, obviously not listening, took off and they were gone for several hours.
		A good 15 hours.
		We were scared to death.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		And then these gentlemen brought the kids back.
unidentified		And we call them men in black, you know, for lack of a better term.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you think they stumbled into this underground facility and men in black or their equivalent brought your children home.
unidentified		Yes, they did.
		What it was, there's a lot of missile silos around there.
		Sure.
		And I guess the kids had crawled off into one, and there was what the kids had said is there was a great big fan, but it wasn't going.
		And they crawled between the blades and they said there was like great big huge corridors.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It would have been a ventilation system, yeah.
unidentified		Exactly.
unidentified		And they were just often wandering around in there and they were caught and they were detained.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's totally freaky.
unidentified		Yes, scared us to death.
unidentified		They basically told my friend that lived there that you need to keep a better eye on your children because we can detain them indefinitely because they were...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, did they get to anything really hairy?
unidentified		No, no, they didn't.
unidentified		if they were just walking up the corridor that they got caught before they can Exactly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Got it.
		Thank you very much.
		Yes, I don't know about detained indefinitely, but I suppose if there really are things that in our wildest imagination, we do imagine may be beneath the ground in New Mexico and areas like the one I live in here.
		Then yes, to actually see them, I suppose, could get you detained indefinitely.
		Still, that's what children do.
		First time caller line, you are on air.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		Is Art Bell?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That would be me.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
unidentified		I got a ghost story for you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, let her rip.
unidentified		I was in LaGrange, Texas.
		Like the song LaGrange about ZZ Top?
		Yes.
		And I was talking to my wife on the telephone.
		I was in a hotel room there.
		I very distinctly felt two small footfalls on the bed behind me.
		I had my shirt off.
		It felt like somebody blew on my back.
		And I didn't have any weird feelings or any malevolent feelings about it.
		And a few days later, I was talking to a lady named Nita who'd been in that hotel for about three or four years.
		It was an oil and gas playoff.
		There were a bunch of landmen down there.
		And she said, well, that's the room where that little boy died.
		And apparently, about a year and a half earlier, a little boy had been, you know, they made a form of one of the pull-out drawers in the dresser.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And they got good and drunk and apparently closed the drawer by accident and the little boy suffocated.
		And the week before, my son had been up there visiting me.
		He was about two.
		And his favorite game at the time was to jump on the bed and hop on my back.
		Like this little fella wanted to play.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so he blew on your back.
unidentified		It was just a very strange occurrence.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, the world is full of them, and thanks for sharing that one with us.
		It is indeed.
		I'm still very desperately trying to make up my mind about the whole ghost question.
		But, you know, I'm really brought back to the couple that I frequently interview from Utah who bring us electronic voice phenomena, otherwise known as voices from the other side.
		And I cannot, try as I may, I cannot knock holes in what they're doing.
		And I do believe they are indeed getting voices from.
		Well, of course, that's a problem.
		I don't know really where they're from, whether they're truly the other side.
		They sound like they are.
		Some of them are so eerie, referring to, I mean, a little child's voice saying it's cold or it's dark in here in a plaintive little child's voice.
		And you can't ignore that.
		Nor can you attribute it to some nearby AM or FM station or some other interfering something that you might imagine.
		There's just no way.
		And I have come up with no explanation.
		That's why I continue to have them on the air.
		No reasonable explanation other than we are hearing from, well, something or some things from somewhere else.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		All right.
		Yes.
		Hi, I'm Scott, and I'm calling from WABC in New York.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		W77, W27.
		Yes.
		Yes, sir.
unidentified		And I just wanted to let you know a couple of things.
unidentified		Number one, I published in a major film magazine in New York here that September 11, 2001 was going to be the biggest event in the history of America.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You published that?
unidentified		Yes, I did, and I could send you anything you want.
unidentified		If you want to give me a fax number off the air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's difficult to do being the loan operator here, but just email it to me.
unidentified		Email it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Email, yes.
unidentified		Another thing I did was I also predicted, in that sort of vein, Chernobyl.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, you're making these predictions based on what?
unidentified		Well, I'm doing the biggest musical the world's ever seen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Musical?
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Well, I said that I published that September 11, 2001 was going to be the biggest event in the history of America.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Based on the release date of your musical?
unidentified		Of my film, in this film.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a little bit different than predicting what actually occurred on that day.
unidentified		Well, it's not that different.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's very different.
		Yes, it is.
		I mean, obviously, a lot of things would have occurred on September 11th other than the horrid thing that did occur.
unidentified		Another thing I did was I'm the only one in the whole world who, in 1974, I recorded a California mega concert that was nearly bigger than Woodstock.
unidentified		And got major press for that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		And I have a video of it in also.
		Can I mention the name of the concert?
		No.
		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I'd rather you didn't.
unidentified		Right.
		I have a video of that concert.
		It's the most astounding thing you've ever seen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Why are you telling me all this on the air?
		I mean, how does it relate to what we're talking about?
unidentified		I don't know.
unidentified		Is the show totally devoted to ghosts and UFOs?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But nor is it totally devoted to sort of press releases.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, sir.
		Thank you very much.
		Happy for you.
		I thought we were on to something for a moment there.
		The interesting thing, of course, about September 11th is that there really was nobody that I'm aware of.
		I mean, there were some sort of weak attempts at claims of predictions, but there really were none.
		And I thought it was really fair, frankly, when many people said, well, where were the remote viewers?
		Where were the psychics?
		Where were the whole group of them in one of the biggest events that's occurred?
		No, the biggest event, I suppose, that's occurred in our lifetime.
		Not a one of them caught whiff of it.
		We had no people calling up saying September 11th, oh my god, something awful is going to happen.
		Watch out.
		All the rest of it.
		What you would have expected just simply didn't occur in or out of this forum or any other that I'm aware of.
		International Line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hey, Art, how you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		Okay, my name is Kim.
unidentified		I'm calling from Tijuana, Mexico.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Tijuana, Mexico.
		Excellent.
		All right.
		Question.
unidentified		I got a question and a comment because my question first is, what exactly is a secret society?
		Because we know the names and the players of Skull and Bones, and we know about the names like Illuminati.
		So apparently they're not secret.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, I couldn't agree with you.
		Look, can you, even being in Tijuana, can you afford to hold on a few moments?
		Sure.
		All right, good.
		We've got to take a break.
		We'll be right back.
		This is Coast to Coast AM in the middle of the night.
		I'm Art Bell.
unidentified		I've heard nothing but bad love.
		I've heard nothing but bad love.
		I've heard nothing but bad love.
		Romeo and Juliet are together in eternity.
		Romeo and Juliet are together in eternity.
		40,000 men and women every day.
		Romeo and Juliet are together in eternity.
		40,000 men and women every day.
		Reading my dreams.
		Every 40,000 coming every day.
		We can be like they are.
		Come on, baby.
		Don't feel the reproach.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		A bit of breaking news, folks.
		Look at this.
		There were rumors of this on the internet, rumors all over the internet, but I didn't want to read it to you till it hit something I knew, and here it is on yahoo.com, Dateline Moscow.
		A Russian scientist has reopened the controversy over a gigantic explosion in 1908, Siberia, with a claim that he has found debris from an extraterrestrial space vehicle, or UFO, which collided with a comet.
		On June 30th, 1908, a colossal flash lit up the sky over Siberia, followed by an explosion with the power of a thousand atom bombs.
		I'm reading this directly off the web.
		It obliterated the forest for hundreds of square miles in the basin of the river at Tunguska.
		People living in the villages of Siberia thought there had been an earthquake.
		Humans, animals, alike were thrown to the ground by the shockwave.
		Windows were blown in.
		No meteorite debris was ever found.
		And scientists conclude that a core of a comet or an asteroid had exploded.
		Researcher Yuri Labin spent 12 years researching the mystery of the Tunguska meteorite and now believes he has found the key to one of the great scientific enigmas of the last century, though many scientists remain skeptical.
		He is president of the Tunguska Spatial Phenomena Foundation, made up of about 15 enthusiasts, among them geologists, chemists, physicists, mineralogists, who have been organizing regular expeditions to that area since 1994.
		His theory is that a comet and a mysterious flying machine collided 10 kilometers, 6 miles above the Earth's surface, causing the explosion.
		He and his team say that an expedition to the river in July between two villages found two strange black stones in the form of regular cubes with their sides measuring a meter and a half or about five feet.
		These stones, quote, are manifestly not of natural origin, end quote, he says.
		They appear to have been fired and their material recalls an alloy used to make space rockets, while at the beginning of the 20th century only planes made of plywood existed.
		He claims that the cubes are the remains of a flying machine, perhaps an extraterrestrial spaceship.
		While admitting that an analysis of the stones has yet to be done, he found something else, a huge white Stone the size of a peasant's hut stuck in the top of a crag in the middle of a deforested forest.
		Local people call it the reindeer stone.
		It is made of a crystalline matter, which is not typical of the region.
		He says it's just its part of the core of a comet.
		So there you have it.
		If you want to do more reading, you can peruse Yahoo and see what you find.
		now they're saying the evidence exists on ground that the tenguska was more than well more than reported the are you the Well, all right.
		I'm going to go back on something I said earlier.
		I said that I would hold all lines open for time travelers.
		That is not going to work.
		Over the years, I should have learned this.
		There are too many millions of you out there.
		So for that reason, after I take the next call from the first-time caller line, somebody legitimately there as a first-time caller, I am therefore going to restrict that line from here on out in the show only to people who claim to have traveled in time.
		That number, of course, is Area Code 775-727-1222.
		Let me repeat that number because I'm going to restrict it to time travelers only.
		Area code 775-727-1222.
		As soon as we pick up the next caller, legitimately there, from that point onward, it's going to be for time travelers only.
		I always, you know, I try not to think of how many people are in the audience, or it would make me too nervous, but occasionally you have to recognize there are millions of you out there, and so the chances of somebody claiming to have traveled in time getting through are very slim indeed unless I do what I'm going to do now, and that is restrict that line.
		So there you have it.
		International line, I think down in Meko, you're back on the air.
unidentified		Thank you very much, Ark.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Yeah, so how can we be secret societies if we know who the players are and the names of the organizations?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		As I was saying, sir, I kind of gave up on it.
		You know, once you've been accused of being in a secret society, your options just about completely evaporate because there's certainly no point in saying, oh, no, I'm not, because that just fuels the fire.
unidentified		I don't think you are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So, well, thank you.
		You're one of the very few.
		I'm not, of course, but I found that it does no good to deny that fact, so I don't.
unidentified		Actually, and I got a comment, too.
		Remember you said a while back that you're saying that you're not one of the greatest talk show hosts around?
		Well, there's a talk show host up here in Los Angeles on another network who said that you are one of the greatest talk show hosts around.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know, sir.
		I just don't know.
		I just do what I do, and I guess that determination will be made with years and years that will pass.
		And, you know, those things are never known as they occur.
		And I certainly don't rate myself in any special way.
		I just love doing what I do, and how I end up falling in the scheme of things will be determined probably long after I'm gone.
		So better not to dwell on these things.
		First time caller line, you're Ani or hi.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		How are you doing tonight?
		I'm all right.
		First time caller here.
		I listened to you several years ago.
		I believe it was back in 97.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		I was working late, working the night shift, and I remember hearing a man come on to your station and you spoke with.
		And he was very, very excited.
		He was upset.
		He started becoming escalated.
		He indicated to you that he was a time traveler and he had some information.
		And the last words he said was that they are triangulating on me at this time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, God, of course.
		You're talking about the time we went off the air, the satellite.
		Exactly, exactly.
		I'll never forget that as long as I shall live.
		Believe me.
unidentified		That was pretty much the last time I listened to you because it's hit and miss.
		I didn't know if you were on lately.
		That night, I tell you what, I was there with my friend, and we heard that, and he didn't sound like he was really fabricating anything.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I know.
		I can tell you because, of course, I was here, and what happened is the satellite actually began to tumble in space.
		An odd occurrence for that particular moment, wouldn't you say?
		Anyway, that blew us off the air big time, and that record has been used, or that couple of minutes of audio has been used by people who have made records and all kinds of things.
		ZZ Top put it in the beginning of one of their records.
		It was one of the oddest moments of radio that have ever occurred, as far as I know.
		And in the split second after we got thrown off the air by the tumbling satellite, that man was screaming.
		The end of that call was nothing but a series of the most blood-curdling screams you've ever heard in your life.
		And of course, at that point, I was in total scramble trying to figure out what possibly could have done this.
		It was really, really, really weird.
		So there's no follow-up to it other than what you did not hear, and what you would have heard had we remained on the air, was just this series of blood-curdling screams.
		So I guess we'll never know, but it was one of those moments in radio, no doubt.
		Wildcard Line, you're on the air.
		Hi.
		Art?
		Yes.
unidentified		Great, great.
		My best to you and yours.
		And Dr. Stephen Greer is a bona fide genius.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, he's a bona fide, very brave man.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's damn sure.
unidentified		I mean, really, really is.
		Do you think that they're just taking you and all the secret society stuff?
		I mean, you have to have a private circle of influential friends.
		You know what I mean?
		Do you think they're just drawing conclusions, or not conclusions, but like, you know what I mean?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I hear what you say.
		Do you think I am a member of a secret society, a powerful secret society?
		Do you believe that?
unidentified		I believe that you more than anybody else have a very large black book of some of the more influential people on the planet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That may be.
unidentified		And I wonder why you've never taken a remote viewing course.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well, that's easy.
		I'm happy to answer that one.
		I've never taken a remote viewing course because, truth be told, I don't want to know.
		For example, one, I am told, can view the manner of their own death.
		Well, I guess I don't want to know.
		Let it be a surprise.
		As I think I would prefer most major events in my life to be.
		I mean, would you really want to know?
		Would you really, really want to know what the cosmic dice have in store for you?
		That's why I have not done it.
		And I understand there are many people who would want to know.
		And fine, go right ahead.
		Be my guest.
		I'm just not one of those who wishes to know.
		You can accept that answer, or you can believe that within my powerful black book of friends, I already know.
		Anyway, East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello?
unidentified		Hey, Art?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Fascinating show, like it always is.
		And did your show evolve into the topic like it is?
		Or was that a plan?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, it was not a plan.
		The program evolved.
		Look, years ago, many years ago in the 80s, I was doing a political talk show like all of the other Godzillians across the dial you can hear on command.
		And I guess I got bored.
		And when I got bored, I began to do things that nobody had ever done on radio before.
		And everybody around me totally freaked out.
		And I said, too bad.
		This is what I think I'm going to try.
		And that's how it happened.
unidentified		Well, you know, I hope you're on for many years to come because I just can't imagine anybody else replacing the effectiveness that you have in conducting the show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		It's fascinating.
		But, Art, what I wanted to tell you about just a real brief thing, when I was about 17 years old, still in high school, a buddy of mine and I used to trade off driving to school.
		And one evening I went to do my homework this particular day.
		Couldn't find my books.
		This has to do with the parallel universe theory.
		And I just gave up.
		And I called this buddy of mine.
		And lo and behold, my books were in the back of his car.
		And at the time, of course, it's so far back, you know, you may think, well, it's explainable.
		But in fact, it was not explainable.
		And the recency of it is what made it so incredibly hard to believe.
		And I never even heard of the parallel universe theory until listening to your show a few years ago, I guess.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That makes both of us same here.
		But, you know, I think quite clearly things do happen, which I guess, you know, what do we do?
		We explain them away somehow or another in our own brain because our brain screams for us to have an understanding of something.
		And so our brain writes it off in one way or another.
		But things do happen which are totally inexplicable.
		We just sort of, you know, like your books, for example, if you're absolutely certain you didn't leave them there, absolutely certain.
		Well, then, okay.
		So then possibly in some other timeline, and maybe timelines are switching on us all the time.
unidentified		There's no other explanation.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And we wouldn't know it, except perhaps by some dim memory or some happenstance like your books, right?
unidentified		Right, but see, remember, this was the very time it happened, you know, and I mean, this was real time.
		So, I mean, it couldn't have happened.
		I mean, as I talk about it, I become emphatic about it because it was so absolutely incredible.
		But anyway, great, great programming art, and I hope you stay on for many, many years to come because of fantastic entertainment.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much, and take care.
		Well, right.
		Appreciate that.
		Yes, those things may be reflective of the fact that something is tampering with our timeline.
		And as I explained a little while ago, when it does, there's every reason to believe that another bubble is created, another universe in which we plunge headlong as though nothing had happened.
		Only now things are going to unfold in a very different way.
		And of course, we wouldn't begin to be aware of any of this because to us it just seems like a linear progression of time has occurred.
		Life has continued as normal.
		And yet, not really, because another bubble formed, and we're now moving down a completely different path than we would have otherwise.
		Hence, all my interest in time travel.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Are?
		Yes.
		This is Vance in California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Howdy.
unidentified		Howdy.
		Hey, I think Richard loves you so much, he could just be hurt that you're not having him on quite as much.
		That's how I would reduce that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so you think if you follow that line of reasoning, that because I haven't had him on as much, according to you, then he's accusing me of being in a secret society.
unidentified		I think that caller before Scott had to be able to do that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Pretty drastic.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Pretty drastic, I'd say.
unidentified		Pardon me?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Pretty drastic, I'd say.
unidentified		Yeah, and that may be completely wrong.
unidentified		Art, I just wanted to ask you a question, and I hope to phrase it properly, because I really, really would like to know your response.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		And I'm hoping to stage a comeback on talk radio myself, but I won't mention where they'll just have to hunt for it.
		And this is the question, I have to be careful.
		Under the concept of woe unto them through which it comes, that's the last part of it.
		Not to get into that too much, but I think what you were talking about last night really might come under that heading and forget the first part, but let's say it quickly.
		It must needs be regarding what anyone now will think I'm a traitor initially, but we need to know what bin Laden and Al-Qaeda think they think they're doing with what they think are their right motives.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And why would you imagine people to think of you as a traitor for wondering about that?
unidentified		Well, just because I'm a little bit scared of this burgeoning police state.
unidentified		I'm not as anti-Bush as many.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm a little scared of it myself.
		You know, we're going to have to watch all of this very closely.
		I'm scared of this burgeoning police state as well.
		We've got the Patriot Act.
		Well, Patriot Acts are all fine and well, but at some point they begin to diminish that which they claim to try to protect.
		It's such a fine line, and I just don't.
		I wouldn't want to be one of the men or woman trying to figure out where that line is and when we have stepped over it, right?
		Would you?
		We must protect America and we must protect the American citizens.
		That is the job of our government, among others.
		But a prime part of their job is to protect us and to protect the country.
		And in that effort, it's pretty easy to walk over the line and begin to actually cause the enemy to win by imposing such draconian laws and regulations that we now have what we're fighting to fight against.
		Not an easy job, uh, to be sure.
		First time calling line, you're on here.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, where are you calling from?
unidentified		Hi, this is Chris.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And what's up, Chris?
unidentified		I'm from Indiana.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Art, I didn't travel, but the person I met did.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You met a time traveler, you're sure.
unidentified		Well, um, you've got to hear me out on this.
		When I was in Las Vegas, I was at the MGM, and I was sitting there at the bar, and a gentleman walked up to me and sat down, and he looked like he'd had a rough night.
		He had a suit, a black suit with a white shirt.
		And he asked me how my luck was, and I said, not good, not good at all.
		And he said, go to the flamingo.
		I said, what?
		He said, go to the flamingo.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hold on, sir.
		We're at a break point.
		I'm going to hold you over, all right?
		This is a man who claims to have met a time traveler.
		And what, what, yes, certainly, Las Vegas.
		Oh, you bet.
		Time traveled countries.
		No question about it.
		If you're ever going to travel in time, Las Vegas would be the place.
		Blackjack table.
		Craps.
unidentified		Always get money.
unidentified		You name it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, if you knew the next several rolls of dice at a crap table, well, you'd be rich and probably real quiet about the whole thing, wouldn't you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm Art Bell.
unidentified		I got the music in me.
		I got the music in me.
		I remember those times reflected in your eyes.
		I wonder where you are.
		I wonder if you think about me.
		What's a part of the time in your wildest dreams?
		To talk with Art Bell, call the wildcard line at area code 775-727-1295.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		Indeed, so the number, I'll tell you, the number of incredible stories I'm getting right now on what's going on all around us.
		The ecology is amazing.
		European winters could disappear by 2080.
		This again comes from Yahoo.
		Heat waves and floods are likely to become more frequent, threatening the elderly and infirm.
		Three-quarters of the Swiss Alp glaciers might melt down by 2050.
		Now, these are lines you read, but do you really consider?
		Three-quarters of the Swiss Alps glaciers may be gone by 2050.
		If you look at the north part of the world right now, and by that I mean the North Pole, it's melting.
		North Pole is melting.
		Yes, there'll be a bit of a refreeze, but just about every year it gets smaller.
		And if you look at photographs from 10 years ago and look at them now, it's obvious the entire North Pole is melting.
		These sentences come rolling out of my mouth.
		But you've got to really stop and say, What did he just say?
		The North Pole is melting.
		The glaciers in the Alps are going to be gone, and Switzerland, Alaska is melting.
		These are serious matters.
		And I wonder if we're really digesting them as we should.
		Anyway, back to open lines in a moment.
unidentified		Hey.
unidentified		Hey.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, listen, I'm trying to keep up on this West Palm Beach thing.
		Here's one person hired updates.
		Any updates on Palm Beach, West Palm Beach.
		I'm along the inner coast with lots of open space, good visibility, storm to the north, lots of lightning.
		What's interesting is a single high-powered spotlight keeps swooshing across the sky.
		I wonder if that's an attempt at some kind of contact.
		So I'll continue to take any ongoing reports from West Palm as something really is happening there.
		Interesting.
		You're back on the air again, hi.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Well, anyway, what I was doing was sitting there kind of sulking over my loses, my losses.
		But anyway, this man walked up with a suit on, and he was kind of a movie star-looking kind of guy with the dark hair, slick back, Vaseline, almost like the late 30s or 40s.
		And he sat down, and I thought he looked pretty rough, and he said, go to the flamingo.
		And I said, what did you say?
		And he said, go to the flamingo and play in the table in front of me.
		Really?
		And I said, well, I don't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In front of him.
unidentified		That's what he said.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, he was going to be there as well to point the way.
unidentified		He said, play at the table in front of me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, gotcha, all right.
unidentified		So anyway, I asked him if he wanted to drink, because I used to drink scotch, and he said, I'd love a scotch.
		And he took a scotch and he walked away.
		And I asked the bartender, I said, have you ever saw him before?
		And he said, well, I didn't really see who you were sitting by.
		I hadn't seen anybody sit by you tonight.
		And as I watched him go up the escalator, he sort of disappeared.
		But there was a lot of people at the MGM.
		This was the night of the Tyson site.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So I'm sure you beat feet to the flamingo, right?
unidentified		Well, I went out and got in the bus, and I'd never ridden in a bus in my life, public bus.
unidentified		It was four in the morning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		And I went down and just went.
		I wasn't sure exactly where the flamingo was at that time.
		But there it was.
		And so I walked in the main door, and I walked around the blackjack tables because that's my favorite game.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And I never did see this gentleman standing by a table.
		And I thought to myself, well, this is crazy.
		And then I looked over to the left, and there's a cardboard figure of a person full size.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You've got to be kidding.
unidentified		And I didn't know who it was at all.
		And I asked one of the dealers, I said, well, who's that cardboard figure?
		Because it looked just like the guy met at the flamingo.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And he said, well, that's Bugsy Siegel.
unidentified		And I said, you've got.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He's a father of Las Vegas.
unidentified		That's what he told me.
unidentified		He said, that's Bugsy Siegel.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's the founding father of the city over the hill.
unidentified		Well, anyway, his cardboard statute or figure was right there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you played?
unidentified		I played and won $7,000.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, that's one hell of a story.
unidentified		It's a true story.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You swear on TV Guide.
unidentified		Well, I swear to you, it's the true story.
		I told my son this story.
		Me and my son went and stayed out in Perump also for about a week.
		And I've listened to you over the years, but actually, I stayed in Crystal, that little city just north of Perump.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that is a little city indeed.
unidentified		Yeah, there's four rooms out there.
unidentified		That's what we spent the money on, was just hanging around out there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Seven grand.
		Well, that's a hell of a story, man.
		Thank you very, very much for the call.
		That's really a cool story.
		Yeah, Bugsy.
		Bugsy was mafia.
		Bugsy is the man who founded Las Vegas.
		The founding father of Las Vegas.
		That's quite a claim, huh?
		Gangster founded the city.
		Well, he did.
		We've often wondered, you know, if he'd stumbled over the hill, Las Vegas might be where I'm sitting at the moment.
		That's an incredible story.
		And you know something else?
		It kind of figures that Bugsy'd be hanging around.
unidentified		And where else would he be?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a good one.
		All right, we're reserving the first-time caller line now for time travelers only.
		And that number is 775-727-1222.
		But time travelers only.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, this is Peter from Sedona.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Peter.
unidentified		I am a first-time caller.
unidentified		I was inspired to call when I heard that call in about his cat, domestic cat, that lashed under his throat and let go.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, yes, three times.
unidentified		I was on my back in the middle of the night watching television with a cat curled up on my chest sleeping.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		She woke up suddenly.
		I guess my body tensed up at a tense moment on the TV show.
		And next thing I know, she lashed ten claws around my eyes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
unidentified		And I just wrote that off as instinct.
		I guess she woke up and was freaked out, but it turned out after all that she had earmites.
		That was the cause.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, really?
unidentified		Yeah, that's a good idea.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, what a way to tell you, huh?
unidentified		Yeah, okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What a way to tell.
		You're very welcome.
		What a way to tell you.
		I've got earmites.
		Cats are odd creatures.
		I wake up many, many times in the middle of the night thinking, boy, what a heavy chest, you know, and there's a great big 12 or 13-pound black cat sleeping on my chest.
		And they dream.
		They definitely dream as well.
		You can see them.
		They have little cat dreams.
		I don't know what it's about, but their little claws are coming out and their little paws are going back And forth, and sometimes they're even running in their sleep.
		You know, they're running after something.
		I suppose a cat would dream of what?
		Bugs, perhaps mice, or perhaps things we can't begin to understand.
		Whatever, they do dream.
		East of the Rockies, you're on air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hello?
		Hello.
		Hi.
		I wanted to tell you a story that happened to me in November of 99.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		I was working as a deputy sheriff in a rural county just north of Corpus Christi, Texas.
unidentified		And I got just about 4 o'clock in the morning, and I got called to the office to sign some reports that a supervisor had approved.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		And I took Highway 796 out of Tynan back towards Sentinel.
		It's a very dark, desolate area bordered on both sides by the Anderson Ranch.
		No lights, no nothing.
		As I'm coming up to the back gate of the Anderson Ranch, it's kind of about a 40-mile-an-hour curve.
		And I've drove the road most of my life, and I'm doing about, I guess, 75, 80.
		And in the middle of the road was a bright, luminous, have you ever seen a chem light?
		Like a marker light?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes, yes, sure.
unidentified		About the size of a basketball, glowing in the road.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Just on the road or above the road?
unidentified		No, hovering kind of in the headlights.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hovering.
unidentified		I slammed on the brakes and just looked at this thing and had no clue what to do, and it disappeared.
		Just no shot off into space, no nothing, just disappeared.
		So I'm sitting there wondering what to do or not knowing what to do.
		And I start to accelerate, and I'm driving below the speed limit around this curve.
		And as I get around the curve, you can't see it.
		But as my lights come around, there's a herd of cattle in the road, and they're all black Angus.
		And had this thing not been there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You'd have been in a collision.
unidentified		I'd have been seriously injured or dead.
unidentified		I was just wondering if you ever heard anything like that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I have.
		What do you think that was?
		I mean, if you were forced to guess now with all these years of reflection, what do you think that was?
		What do you think it might have been?
unidentified		A light in the middle of the road.
unidentified		I have no clue.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But you must have thought some about it, huh?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it warned you, didn't it?
unidentified		Well, basically, I thought it had to be something warning me that, you know, we deal with loose livestock all the time.
unidentified		And, I mean, I've worked plenty of accidents where people hit cows in the middle of the night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but if you had hit a bunch of black Angus going 75 miles an hour, they and you would be dead.
unidentified		Of course.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so what happened to you was something very significant.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Something warned you.
unidentified		But what?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you write it up?
unidentified		No, of course not.
unidentified		I had told one person my inquiry.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, good move.
unidentified		I mean, I'm not going to tell a supervisor that.
		I didn't even want to tell you my name here, you know.
		I mean, it's nuts.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm with you.
		I really appreciate the call, sir.
		Look, all I can say is that that is the heart of what this program is about.
		It's about things we do not understand.
		And what you just heard, obviously, was a very true story.
		So we are here to explore that which is not explored elsewhere.
		And that was at the very core of what we do here.
		What warned him?
		We talk of guardian angels.
		We talk of many, we talk of dimensions, we talk of ghosts, we talk of oh, so many things here on this program, but something warned him.
		That was a real call.
		You could tell it was real.
		So that's what we're here for.
		That's why we're here.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
unidentified		How are you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm very well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		I'm calling from Hawaii.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, great.
unidentified		And I just wanted to let you know that I have a very strange theory, I think, about all of the UFOs and things that are happening out there.
		I believe that we're being monitored.
		And I have an idea that more of us have been abducted than people think.
		And I think it's probably ancestrial.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, a straight-on question.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you believe that you have been abducted?
unidentified		Oh, most definitely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I thought so.
unidentified		Yeah, I believe three generations of my family have.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why do you think you've been abducted?
unidentified		Well, I had an experience where I remembered being abducted, but it was in the past long ago, and you didn't talk about things like that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And in fact, that's why I didn't give you my name because how distinct are your memories of the abduction?
unidentified		Well, we went to bed at night, and like we normally do, we got in underneath the covers.
		And we woke up the next morning, and our bedspread was on us, and the sheets was on top of the bedspread.
		And I had a mark on my arm that was like a burn that had never been there.
		And we had strange remembrances of something happening during the night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How much can you remember?
unidentified		Some, but not too much.
unidentified		But as far as I know, it wasn't a threatening experience to me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you remember...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you believe this has been going on for three generations?
unidentified		Yes, I do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, thank you very much.
		That's typical of abduction, of course.
		It is a generational.
		It seems to follow families and family trees and generations.
		No question about that.
		First person that would certainly tell you that would be Bud Hopkins, one of the nation's leading researchers in this area.
		Question is, what are they doing?
		Why are they taking people and what are they doing with them?
		And for what purpose?
		It appears to be reproductively oriented, perhaps genetically oriented.
		The purpose, we're not sure.
		There are a lot of guesses.
		You're on the air coast to coast A.M. with Arbel.
		Where are you calling from, please?
unidentified		Hello.
		Hello?
		I'm calling from the U.S., that's all I can say.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		A few months ago, I had one of my tech sergeants call in.
		He was guarding a faculty, if you will.
		He asked me to call in.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He was guarding a faculty?
unidentified		Let's just say he was guarding something that you guys are looking for.
		And he convinced me about two weeks ago to call in.
		I'm his commander.
		I'm post-commander of this faculty.
		And it took me a while to get on with you guys, but here I am.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You keep saying faculty.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you mean facility?
unidentified		If you will.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And what is it that your facility does?
unidentified		Well, let's just say I'm looking at something right now that wasn't made in this world.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, all right, then why don't we go ahead and describe and describe it, whatever it is.
		Or is it beginning to take off as we speak?
		I hear some weird noise.
unidentified		1979, order came down to terminate an unidentified flying object.
		We terminated it.
		All life was hunted down and terminating within 24 hours as per the order.
		And we recovered what was left of the craft.
		And my superiors, if you will, well, let's just say it's about 280 feet long, probably about 150 feet wide.
		And there were 17 occupants on board, and it was deemed fit for the human race that we exterminate with extreme prejudice the life forms on board.
		With the technology that we had at the time, we froze what was left of the occupants on board.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You froze them?
unidentified		We froze them.
		But I had one of my tech sergeants call in a few months ago.
		Yes.
		I believe he talked to a George Norrie.
		I believe that was his name.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's the information I have, yes.
unidentified		And they told him to go to a public library, try to get in contact.
		I kind of dissuaded him from that.
		I said, we don't need to do that.
		Like I said, this is something I think that the people need to know about, and it's come high time that we all realize that there's life out there elsewhere.
		A lot of good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you are guarding it.
unidentified		Well, I'm in command of this whole facility.
		I see.
		And about, I guess it was 19 months ago, we gave the president a new briefing on the project.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You did?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		President Bush.
unidentified		We have a $17 million budget.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, would that be President Bush?
unidentified		Yes, it would.
unidentified		We told him that we were asking for an additional $24 million a year, and he told us he was cutting our budget by half.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, not a good idea when you've got a big secret like that.
unidentified		Well, not just that.
		The reason we terminated these people was the total amount on board, and in order to terminate them, which we ended up doing, we ended up losing about a quarter of our people, which is, I'm not going to say, but it was a lot of people.
		Well, so?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, how did you kill them?
unidentified		I can't say.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes, you can.
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How did you kill them?
unidentified		Big whack over the head or what?
		Well, let's just say that how we killed them would offend a lot of people.
		I won't go no further than that.
		We ended up taking them out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You reached down their throats and yanked out some vital alien part.
unidentified		Sure, if you want to say so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, I'm not sure I'm buying all this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You understand that?
unidentified		Oh, I understand.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that's mass, for one thing, that's genocide.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why did you kill them?
unidentified		Well, let's just say the way they took out our people so quickly and so efficiently, we used two tactical nukes to bring down their vessels.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Two tactical nukes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, don't you think that we would have noticed that?
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
		Two tactical nukes.
		He would have knows, well, anybody who's got all their faculties together knows damn well they're in command of a facility, not a faculty.
		This is Coast to Coast AM.
		Oh, yeah.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is indeed reminding you the first-time caller line, otherwise known as Area Code 775-727-1222, is restricted to time travelers only, and I will be the judge of what I think of your story.
		So it's got to be pretty good, as I said.
		That one line accepted, we're doing open lines.
		Anything you want to talk about is hurricane.
unidentified		stay right there the Let's give it a try, shall we?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		On our specially designated time traveler line, you are on the air.
unidentified		Yes, Mr. Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're cutting out.
unidentified		Yeah, I had to go out in the middle of nowhere so I could see him coming.
unidentified		I've come in more from the past and from the future, and it does not take nearly as much energy as people think to travel time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh?
unidentified		No, it's more a manipulation of electromagnetic fields with radio frequencies.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, you know, the Philadelphia experiment was about exactly that, and I'm not immune to believing what you're saying, that there could be a combination of electromagnetic energy and rotating RF fields and so forth that could cause exactly that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you're claiming that's what you have done, and you've come from the past?
unidentified		More from the past, about the mid-70s.
unidentified		Your antenna array, that loose antenna array, I haven't seen it, but it sounds like you're real close to actually completing a fairly large circumference for manipulating an area of time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you're claiming you came from the 70s, huh?
unidentified		About the mid-70s.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		About the mid-70s.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And is this a discovery, this mechanism to allow time travel, is it a discovery you made, stumbled on yourself, or others did?
unidentified		It was something I stumbled on, and I have been found, and I have been given ground rules to follow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Somebody or something found you?
unidentified		It's a larger organization than just the government.
		It's pretty.
		The powers that be that control the government.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		They also control a group that controls the time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, now this is interesting.
		So then there are certain rules to time travel, which apparently were laid down for you.
		Is that it?
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		If I violate any of those on this phone call, they'll find me faster than I can leave here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		tell me what you can of the rules for time travel.
unidentified		I mean, what are the...
		To a certain extent, there's a common sense rules.
		You're not going to go into, like you say, Vegas and play the odds in your favor.
		You can, to an extent, where you need money to survive or to accomplish a mission.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But you can't get greedy.
unidentified		No, no.
unidentified		They'll come down on you before you ever get to that point.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They.
		Might we understand the nature of they?
		Or them.
unidentified		Your Illuminati is a close understanding, about as close as you're going to get to it.
unidentified		you believe the illuminati of the guardians of the secret I see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So whatever this organization is, it's head and tails above the Illuminati even.
unidentified		I would say the Illuminati is what they have propagated as, you know, kind of their cover.
		The Illuminati, you know, some people say the Illuminati are out there for world domination and control.
		Some they'll stop at no means to do it.
		But these people, they're really not out there for domination and control.
		They're out there to further themselves.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And keep control of people like you.
unidentified		They can lay down some pretty strict rules.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If you could move through time once, I'm presuming you could do it again.
unidentified		I can.
		It's not too hard to do.
		The hard part is setting up.
		And I made the mistake of coming to a time where monitoring the radio frequencies and everything is a lot more advanced than I ever thought it could be.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		True enough.
unidentified		And my mistake is for me to set up the type of equipment I would need the moment I turned it on, they would find it.
unidentified		And by the time I tuned in frequencies, they'd be there to stop me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Fascinating.
		So was any part of the rules and the warnings laid down that you shall not do it again?
		Was there concern about that?
		Or what?
unidentified		If I am to travel, it'll be by their means.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		By their means?
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		At their discretion and their means.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I assume that they found you based on what frequencies were generated when you did this.
unidentified		Yes, they were very high voltage, low amperage electromagnetic fields.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that makes sense.
		Electrostatic energy of some sort and a magnetic field.
		that's fascinating uh...
unidentified		and you're actually you say you're out and concerned right now that you say something that would I'm not too afraid of saying the wrong thing, or I think I would have been stopped by now before I made the call.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Were you just a tinkerer?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Or how did you stumble into this?
unidentified		Yeah, it was major league tinkering with radios and messing around with 8-tracks and old recorders and stuff.
unidentified		It was nothing I really intended to do, but when your hair stands up on your hands and it's so localized, at the same time, the feeling you get, the Hutchison effect is real close from my observation.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's fascinating, and that kind of figures too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Any ill effects because of time travel?
unidentified		Not that I've experienced.
unidentified		Some of the ill effects that I've heard of, which is why they want me to use their equipment, are, for instance, materializing 30,000 or 40,000 feet above the ground.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That would be bad.
unidentified		Yeah, it's more getting stuck in a magnetic stream outside the stratosphere.
		You kind of pull in on the wrong spot, what they're explaining to me.
		I don't understand a lot of what I did or how I did it, you know, or how it worked.
		All I know is I turned it on, I said, what the heck, let's try it.
		And I came out in about 1993.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm trying to even imagine what it would be like to jump 20 years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, the technology and the world would have changed so much in 20 years that it'd be almost hard to get around.
unidentified		Yeah, the garage was the people that lived in the place that I hopped into, where I'd left, they had completely remodeled the garage.
		I felt like I just stepped into a different room.
		And when I went walking back into the house and all my parents' furniture was gone, and here they are with the cordless phones and everything, I kind of flipped out.
		And of course they flipped out when they saw me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure they did.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They probably thought, my God, it's a ghost or worse.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		Now, I would like to go ahead and tell you about one of the missions I was able to go on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		It was for Arfrit, radio frequencies, IDs.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
unidentified		Now, they are a major component in being able to locate and track individuals in terrorism.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I would think so.
unidentified		And it's the quickest way to regain our privacy.
unidentified		As bizarre as that may sound.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It does sound counterintuitive.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you're talking about an RFID, something that would tag you, essentially, but you're saying it really would be our salvation.
unidentified		They tag you, they monitor your movements, so if you go somewhere and do something wrong, they can't find you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Got it.
unidentified		But they don't monitor you to the point where they know what you're doing, what you're saying, what you're thinking about, or something like that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You sound like an advocate for the technology.
unidentified		Only because it's really what kind of a Patriot Act that's coming out is a real dangerous thing, and it threatens to actually expose this organization.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		And it's one organization I'd like to go ahead and keep a lid on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Apparently.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Although, I wonder how you figure this call is okay.
unidentified		I would have been stopped before I made the call.
		That's all I can think.
		I've been stopped from going to Vegas before.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's kind of a roll of the dice.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They've kept you from Las Vegas, have they?
unidentified		Yeah, my first mission, I did go into the future, and I did research some stocks, but I happened to catch the front page of the sports section.
unidentified		I thought I'd go back, and they didn't caught into that idea.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Uh-huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Listen, I appreciate your call, and I guess your plans are what, to live out your life in the time you've now arrived in, or to make another jump?
unidentified		I don't, I can't make some plans.
		They've got me in a job where they kind of got a harness on me.
		They've got a good idea where I'm at, where I'm going to be.
		And I think my plans are maybe someday if I can, with a little bit of luck, figure out how the device they're using is able to pinpoint locations so easily, I might be able to do the same thing and just get back out of here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If you were to make another jump, where or when, more likely, would you go?
unidentified		I'm thinking I'd like to get past 2025.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I hope we all get past 2025.
		And thank you very, very much for the call.
		Or 2012, for that matter.
		Now, you see, that call and calls like that are the reason that I leave such lines open.
		That was a scratch-your-head kind of call, wasn't it?
		It sounded real.
		Didn't it?
		It didn't sound made-up.
		It sounded it came rolling off too easily and too well, and the aspects of what he said seemed too logical.
		Well, if there were time travel, and it was known, at least by an elite few, there might be an organization that would monitor such movements for fear of what might occur.
		Well, that's absolutely fascinating.
		That was a good call.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		This is Crystal.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Crystal.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hey, Crystal.
unidentified		I'm a first-time caller.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All righty.
unidentified		The reason I called was because of two previous calls.
		One about, well, there's been three tonight.
		One in LaGrange, Texas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
unidentified		One in Sentinel.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And then the lady in San Antonio.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, ma'am.
unidentified		Okay.
		Many years ago, a girlfriend and I were driving toward Victoria, which is very close.
		Well, not real, real close, but fairly close in proximity to Sentinel and San Antonio.
		And we were going out on a Saturday evening, and we started out really late.
		We worked late, and it was almost midnight.
		And we were going to a dance, and it was going to stay open until 3.
		And we were on just a regular road, and it was out in the country and very flat and nothing much around.
		And about 20 miles out of Victoria, you could see the city lights.
		It was, you know, pretty big city, and you could see the lights.
		And we're enjoying ourselves and just driving down the road, and we're in a little convertible, and we're just laughing and cutting up.
		And all of a sudden, out of nowhere, and believe me, none of us were believers in this because it's been many a year ago, this literal, I would call it a space ship,
		unidentified flying object, but literally it was a vehicle that was silver and it was saucer-shaped and it was extremely large and it made no sound and it just kind of swooshed in and sat down right.
		Well, it didn't sat down, it just kind of hovered over the road in front of us.
		And all around the edge were beautiful, beautiful rainbow-colored lights.
		It looked like maybe what we would consider windows with lights.
		Right.
		And we were amazed and afraid.
		I'm sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In shock, probably.
unidentified		Well, yes, many a year ago.
		And the amazement was so great that I think it kind of took away part of the fear.
		And we were traveling at about 75 or 80 miles an hour.
		And it seemed like that we continued to travel, but it was almost like we weren't on the pavement.
		It was almost like that we were just kind of moving, but not on the ground.
		Yes, sir.
		And anyway, I knew the time because we were running late.
		And so she was afraid and I was afraid.
		And we started talking about, well, what's going to happen and are they going to take us or what's going to happen?
		And I'm very analytical.
		So I'm kind of like trying to figure out in my mind, is this from another place or is this one of our creation?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of course, yes.
unidentified		And because I'm really analytical.
		I'm like, okay, this probably has to do with NASA because that wasn't too far away either.
		And so this went on for about 23 minutes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This trap maintained in front of you.
unidentified		It maintained.
		And we were just in, like I said, we were in awe, but we saw it very, very well.
		And it was almost like you had the feeling that they were like you got the, almost like a metal telepathy type of feeling.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		That if you were just hold there and not panic, everything was going to be okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How old are you now?
unidentified		I'm in my 50s.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		And this was in the late 60s.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Gotcha.
unidentified		1969.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Were you aware of, were you later aware of any period of time having elapsed?
unidentified		Well, I'm going to tell, let me finish the story.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Please.
unidentified		Okay.
		So, you know, I remember telling her, I was probably 18 or 19, and she was probably about a year younger than me.
		And I remember telling her, well, let's just, you know, everything's going to be okay.
		Let's just not panic here.
		Everything's going to be alright.
		Anyway, I noticed it raised up higher.
		I don't know how far off the ground it actually was, but I would say probably equal to 10-story or 15-story, you know, building.
		And then it raised up higher, and we could tell, we could see the city of Victoria.
		And there's one thing about Victoria, when you come in on flatland, because that's like at sea level out in that area.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Gotcha.
unidentified		You can always see the lights.
		And they're bright, and they're beautiful.
		And the thing just hovered there for a while, and the lights in Victoria, all the lights sucked out.
		There wasn't one light left in the whole city.
		It sucked totally dark.
		And then I began to panic.
		And she started to cry and scream.
		And she said, oh, they've killed everybody in Victoria.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I see why the other calls grabbed your attention.
unidentified		She said, everybody in Victoria is dead.
		And we are girls that we weren't wild.
		We didn't really party.
		We didn't drink.
		We didn't drug.
		We didn't even smoke.
		We were just going out to meet some friends and enjoy ourselves.
		And so it isn't like that we were on something.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Gotcha.
unidentified		And so she starts to scream and she said, oh, my God, everybody in the city's dead.
		And well, then I began to worry.
		At that point, I began to worry.
		And then I watched, and after this maybe 15 or 20-minute period of time that we were just kind of still moving, but not going anywhere.
		We were moving, like I said, at probably 75 or 80 miles an hour because I could see the speedometer on the car, but we weren't really going anywhere.
		Okay, so it was like we were caught up with them and whatever they were doing.
		And so then it just went and it was gone.
		And it went back out over the bay because about 15 miles to the south is Gulf of Mexico and it was gone.
		And so then we were still, I was still driving and the car was still moving.
		Only at that time we started proceeding toward Victoria.
		And then the lights came, then we could see the lights again.
		And I said, well, it's going to be okay.
		It's going to be all right.
		There's lights on in the city.
		And we came in and it was the most eerie feeling.
		It was so quiet.
		And so we came on in and there was a place where one of the freeways crossed over and a big station.
		But just as we got inside the city, as we were coming into the limits, we went into kind of like a mist, a really peculiar mist or a fog.
		And we could actually feel it, but it didn't feel like dampness.
		But it was just a mist.
		And the middle, I mean, it was like we were driving in the most eerie mist or fog.
		And we came in through that, and it was like everything was in slow motion.
		And we couldn't, we couldn't, when you usually come in, you heard sounds, you heard people moving, you heard animals that barked, especially in a convertible with the windows down and the top down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ma'am, what a story.
		Ma'am, you're going to have to hold on.
		We're at a breakpoint here.
		So I want to hear the end of this, all right?
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you stay right there.
		This is one of those stories.
		Did you hear her say mist?
		How many of you remember the story I read not very long ago about the South Pole?
		Do you remember that story?
		A mist, a weather balloon, a clock?
		I wonder how many remember that.
		Scientists who just were totally baffled every time they sent that balloon up with a clock, it came back.
unidentified		All wrong.
		We'll be right back.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, over the years, I hear stories and I hear stories.
		Some of them, well, some of them, you know, and then others, every now and then, it's like they hit the bullseye.
		And there's something about this lady's voice and the way she's telling this story that seems so, I don't know, matter-of-factly indisputable or something.
		Whatever it was that happened to her really happened.
		I believe that.
		We'll be right back with her.
unidentified		We'll be right back with her.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Top of the darkness, everybody.
		Back now to the mist and where we left off.
		You were in the mist.
unidentified		Okay.
		Well, we had gone over there to meet two young men, and we were going to go to this dance.
		And we finally found our way clear across the city to where the dance was being held.
		And it was, by my watch, almost one o'clock.
		Also by my car.
		It was real close to one o'clock.
		And when we got in there, we didn't know what to say.
		So we just tried to walk in and be normal because we really were afraid.
		By that time, we were really, you know, we were just, we were confused and afraid.
		So we walked in there and we sat down and we apologized for being late.
		And they said, well, you're not that late.
		You know, it's just a little after 12.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, we've only got a moment here.
unidentified		Well, they lost 23 minutes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		23 minutes.
unidentified		The same 23.
unidentified		Yeah, and then.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, you're saying that that entire city lost 23 minutes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		As well as you in your car beneath that.
unidentified		We did not lose it, Mark.
unidentified		They lost it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They lost it.
unidentified		Okay.
		Then, you know, we asked them if they noticed the city going dark and nobody noticed it.
		And then we went out to eat after the dance at about 4 o'clock in the morning at a little place that was a cafe, but it also was a continental bus stop.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And those clocks were all 23 minutes off.
		And the one lady insisted, because the guys were making fun of us, that her clock was correct because she had to be exactly on time because the bus ran there.
		And then a bus pulled in, and she told him he was early.
		But he wasn't.
		And he was exactly 23 minutes off.
		So the entire city lost the 23 minutes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've got it.
unidentified		But we did not.
unidentified		Now, did that whole city just time travel?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It sounds like it did.
		Yes.
		Yeah.
		You know, sure it could happen.
		And what news would it make?
		What news would it make?
		If an entire city lost 23 minutes, or even up to 30 minutes, people would make corrections.
		They'd say the damn clocks or whatever.
		But A, probably 7 out of 10 wouldn't even notice.
		For those who did, they would imagine any number of things which our brain would tell us would explain that away, right?
		But I'd venture to say what we just heard happened.
		You're on the air, Coast to Coast AM on the time traveler line.
		Hello.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		I would give you my name, but you probably already have it with the automatic number identification or CNA that's attached to your phone lines.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You think so?
unidentified		I'll make it very simple, okay?
		We used to take airplanes out of Las Vegas and fly to a classified center where we installed huge antenna arrays to monitor magnetic riffs.
		Okay, we also installed large antenna arrays to talk to the satellites for the government, okay, where a lot of interesting stuff went on.
		Okay?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Now, the problem is, is ever since I left that facility, I've been having extreme headaches and I choked down bottles of aspirin ever since.
unidentified		And a lot of other people who've left that facility are in the same condition, okay?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've heard that.
unidentified		And I've ended up going to military doctors to have cancer removed.
		We've signed documents saying that if we get sick after leaving the facility, since the facility doesn't exist, it never happened.
		Unfortunately, the medical bills don't go away and stuff like that.
		So if anybody else is out there hearing, I hope they figure out a solution to this area that we went to.
		Okay, there's all kinds of stuff.
		Bush has already re-signed an order to reclassify the areas that we were in.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's correct.
unidentified		So discussing any information within the area would have me in jail so far that, let's see, the way they put it would they'd have to send fruit roll-ups to me in the form of sunshine.
unidentified		You know?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is that the way they put it?
unidentified		That's the way they put it.
		So basically, there's a lot of stuff going on that a lot of people need to understand what's going on.
		These experiences in time that people are experiencing with the clocks and that.
		It's called accelerated time.
		The government has been watching it.
		It's a phenomenon that's going on in the universe.
		It's accelerated time.
		And basically what happens is you'll be sitting around, you'll go to bed and you'll wake up and you'll feel like you've slept three or four hours and your clock has only gone an hour.
		Or you'll lose 45 minutes and feel extremely exhausted.
		They've been experimenting with this and trying to realize and understand it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you're saying in those areas in which you traveled in, that's where the experimentation is being done.
unidentified		Yes.
		Experimentation with special aircraft, with magnetic fields and everything else.
		There's a lot of information, misinformation flowing around to keep people out of the areas and that stuff.
		believe me if anybody wants to go out there and a and and even i'd you know think that they can get close they can't and it's not it's very good we it's very good It's a very good way to end up either shot or in jail.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Most likely in jail.
		That's the first order.
		And you just don't try to get close to these areas out in the desert.
		There are signs.
		It's a deadly force authorized, and they are serious about that.
		Now, can you imagine that what he just said could be true?
		Yes.
		That they're experimenting with Tesla-like devices, perhaps that alter realities, alter time, alter our present circumstance in some manner?
		Sure.
unidentified		I can imagine that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hello.
		Yes.
		Oh, hi.
		All right.
		This is Splenda.
		I'm calling from Georgia.
		Can you tell?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I can tell you're down south somewhere, huh?
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I can tell you're down south somewhere.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		This would be short and sweet, but I'm calling in reference to the recording of the whole in Siberia.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And it's referred to as hell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		I noticed, this might not even be of any importance, but it's curious to me.
		You know, of course, you can hear the screaming and the wailing.
		Yes.
		But I detected a male over voice.
		It's distinct and separate.
		And from the tone and the intensity of it, it sounds as if it's directed to someone or something.
		And it's as if he's making commands or exhausting himself.
		You know, I don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you hear that during whatever else.
unidentified		The recording that you have.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Hold on a moment.
		All right.
		She's referring.
		And I've got what I consider to be the real McCoy here, the real recording, of what are called the voices from hell.
		Now, these were recorded by Siberian scientists who drilled what is the deepest hole that's ever been drilled into the earth.
		This was a Reuters story, and you can get copies of it and read it for yourself, lowered microphones into the hole and recorded these seemingly hellish voices.
		And I will go ahead and play it, and I'm going to listen for what she said.
		And she said there was a sort of a male-over voice and see if any of you hear it.
		is that recording.
unidentified		The End
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The End You know, you know, it's funny now that you mention it, especially toward the end part of the recording, I did hear something.
unidentified		And it almost sounds like these, you know, like movies you've seen of, you know, of Satan or a demon or whatever.
		It has that tone to it even, you know.
		But I didn't know if there's any kind of technology where that could be isolated.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, you can take recordings like that and I am told dissect them and remove frequency by frequency.
		You can remove layers until you get down.
		Yeah, whoa, that's fascinating.
unidentified		Well, yeah, and I'll call you at some other point.
		It's about these EVPs.
		I've got a theory on that, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		But I know you have probably other calls, so maybe I'll get in some other time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Thanks for that one.
		I appreciate it.
		I've never heard that, but she's absolutely right.
		Toward the end of the tape, it became more apparent.
		It may have been there the whole time, but toward the end of the recording, you could hear a male voice.
		And I'm not exactly, certainly not exactly sure what it was saying, but it did sound like a voice sort of over everything.
		That was weird.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
		I'm listening to you.
		I'm Rick from Quartzide, Arizona, listening to you from Los Angeles 640.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A mighty CAFI, yes, sir.
unidentified		On my CC radio.
		I've got a little story that involves spirit, ghosts, and remote viewing.
		I lived in Indonesia for many years, 14 years, and I've been a parapsychologist for 25 years.
		And one night this Masusk, she's an older woman, come to the door.
		And when I answered the door, she was crying.
		And so I called my wife, because she spoke better Indonesian than me, and I asked her, what's wrong with the old lady?
		And she says, oh, she says she owes us 35,000 rupees.
		And I said, well, that's $15.
		She can work it out and massage.
		I mean, that's not why she's crying.
		And then I felt an energy on my top of my head, which usually lets me know spirits around.
		I close my eyes, see a bright green flash, and that lets me know somebody's there.
		So I mentally asked it, okay, who are you?
		It says, well, I'm her grandmother, and I want to pass on her inheritance, which I was going to give to her sister, but her sister's too greedy, and I was a healer.
		And I usually make sure they tell me something I couldn't know about them before I act upon it.
		And so I asked the old lady, I says, your mother was a healer, your grandmother was a healer.
		And she said, yes.
		And so then this ghost says to me, I want you to show her your aura.
		So I sat down on a box against a white wall and asked the old woman to look into the center of my forehead, which is to point out my aura, which is around the body.
		And she immediately saw my four spirit guides.
		She says, there's people behind you.
		And my wife was aware of my guides.
		I don't see them.
		My other colleagues have seen them, and I know they're there.
		And so she described them.
		You know, there was a tall black man with a turban on and a Chinese man and a rabbi and an American Indian, a red guy with red skin.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The whole crowd.
unidentified		Right, the whole crowd.
unidentified		Well, they hang out with me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We don't have a lot of time here.
unidentified		Oh, okay.
		Well, it's a good story.
		But anyway, let's see, how am I going to make this shorter?
		The grandmother told me, she says, she's going to be talking to spirits, and that's why I'm letting her see your spirit.
		Okay, so I said to her, okay, she can talk, you know, she'll be able to see these spirits.
		So the old woman, I said, well, I'm going to let you look around my head to see if you can see something in the center of my forehead.
		And she ran across the room.
		She said, it's a star.
		And she tried to grab it.
		And I have a six-pointed star in the center of my forehead to people who see it.
		And so she couldn't get it.
		She's standing back.
		And then she says, I am not afraid.
		And my wife said, what's wrong?
		And she says, your husband's head turned into a cobra.
		And when I said I wasn't afraid, it turned into a Borobudor Buddha.
		She says, I've been to four other holy men, and they all told me the same thing, that my grandmother wants to give me this gift.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you ever get it?
unidentified		She got the gift, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, all right.
		Well, I appreciate the call, sir.
		thank you i'm not sure i get all of that but And they didn't get done, like leaving an inheritance to a certain person.
		I mean, a lot of people pass from this world, you know, and I have no written will.
		And in fact, I'm told more times than not that is the case.
		They leave no written will, and so the relatives just fight over the money.
		Well, I'm sure there's a lot of afterthought about that in the afterworld.
		International line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Hello.
		Hi, my name is Corey.
		I'm from calling from Edmonton, Alberta.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Alberta, yes, sir.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		My friend and I, we've been outside a few times, and we look up in the sky and we see these kind of like UFOs.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, it's kind of like Canada has had the biggest UFO year in all of its history this year, and a lot of America doesn't realize that.
		Yeah, there have been a number of news stories about it.
		Canada is having a gigantic UFO year, and that it could occur so close to us and we barely get, you know, wind of it is kind of strange.
unidentified		Yeah.
		Well, when we look up in the sky, like the first night that we did this, we just kind of looked up in the sky and I said, hey, what's that little dot up there?
		And it moved right across the sky really fast.
		And I said, is that a plane?
		And my friend was like, I don't know.
		And then after a while, we were looking at the sky, went to his backyard, sat there for a while, watched all these UFOs doing all kinds of weird things.
		Then we went to the front, and then a few minutes later, we saw this thing that's kind of like, you know, those cigar-shaped type things.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Or dowel-shaped.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		It was like two blue lights on the outside and two red lights on the inside, but they were flashing intermittently like blue, red, blue, red.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And we saw it and was very silent.
		My friend's like, no, that's a plane.
		I was like, no, that can't be a plane because planes don't have that.
		So we've been seeing some real big activity.
		And then my girlfriend got involved with it.
		And she's kept seeing these lights for like a couple hours.
		And when it happens, it's quite 1.30 when they're really active.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, join the others in Canada.
		As I said, it's strange to me that Canada can be having such a year in ufology, all kinds of sightings like that man just talked about.
		And that's verified in some American news wire stories, and the rest of the world virtually doesn't hear about it.
		That's really bizarre, isn't it?
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
		Hello.
		Going once, going twice, gone.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		I love your bumper music.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		And you have the best voice in radio.
		Anyway, this is a little slightly different, but when I was nine, I was collecting metal buckets of acorns for my father, Nicola Bucket.
		I'm 50 years old now, okay?
		And so I thought that a long time.
		And I was bringing the buckets to dad, and he dumped them in a big wheelbarrow.
		And I went up to him one time, and I said, you know, Papa, all time is going on at the same time, but on different planes.
		And I walked away.
		And he never bothered to tell me ever that time was linear.
		But later, maybe by an hour, I've been kind of communing with nature and all alone and kind of probably in a meditative state.
		I walked to my father and I said, by the time I'm old enough to be a grandmother, Papa, the United States will no longer be the greatest nation in the world.
		And I walked away.
		Now, where did those thoughts come into a nine-year-old tent?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
unidentified		And without, right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Adults, yes, indeed.
		Adults have wondered about that for years out of the mouths of babes.
		But where does it come from?
		Since the babes are brand new.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
		We've got just about a minute to go.
		What's up?
unidentified		I was going to tell you that I owned a bookstore, and when I first opened it, a man brought me in a box and asked me if I could find out anything about it.
		He got it at a flea market.
		And when I opened it, it was a very old box, and it was one of the original Tesla boxes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're kidding?
unidentified		No, I'm not.
unidentified		And it had all glass instruments in it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
		Listen to me carefully, please.
		There's not going to be enough time to do anything other than instruct you any evidence you have, whether it be photographic or the actual box or anything else.
		You need to email me post-paste.
		I'm artbell at AOL.com or artbell at mindspring.com and send me any evidence you have.
		The conventional wisdom is that everything Tesla did, everything Tesla amassed and learned was confiscated by our government.
		Folks, that's all there is.
		Time-wise, that's all there is.
		I've got to go from the high desert till next weekend.
		I'm Art Bell.
		Keep on out there.
unidentified		Good night in the desert.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good night.
unidentified		Shooting stars across the sky.
		This magical journey will take the sun to rise below me, searching for the truth.
		We make it to tomorrow when the sun shine on you.

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