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Jan. 24, 2004 - Art Bell

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Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - Dr. Garland Landrith - Mass Consciousness

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art bell ▲ ● ▼		What's my video?
unidentified		Good evening.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good afternoon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning.
unidentified		Maybe all the time circle in the world.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We cover them all with this program known as Postgres.
		This would be the weekend edition of Season of My God.
		Looking forward to this all week long.
		We will have open minds this hour.
		And as a matter of fact, we're going to have open minds tomorrow night all night long.
		And then later in this hour, we're going to be talking about mass consciousness, which is one of my favorite subjects with Dr. Barland Lambert.
unidentified		we'll see what he has to say about subjects but uh...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		it is one of the most intriguing The power of the mind may be the ultimate power in the universe.
		Maybe that's true.
		Alright, a little bit of news.
		NASA's Opportunity Rover landed on Mars a little while ago, arriving at the Red Planet just three weeks, exactly three weeks actually, after its identical twin set down.
		As you know, the Rover 1 is in recovery, I guess.
		They're saying they think they know what's wrong and they're on the track to fixing it and so forth.
		Meanwhile, its twin has landed.
		All is well, and the celebration and shouting went on at NASA, as you can imagine.
		So we'll get more, yet more pictures of Mars.
		And by the way, while I'm on the subject, I know that it's irresistibly tempting to take the photographs that are coming back from Mars and put McDonald's and Walmart and little space beings and all kinds of things photoshopped into the Mars pictures.
		It's irresistible.
unidentified		But please stop.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've seen them all.
		Believe me, I've seen them all.
		And other than that, I'm still just seeing rocks.
		But that's me.
		I can't see in three dimensions or something, right?
unidentified		Looks like rocks.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Looks like five more of our dead in Iraq.
		West of Baghdad.
		Iraqi insurgents.
		Separate bombings, narrowly missing an American convoy in a blast that killed four Iraqis, wounded about 40 others north of the capital Sonan Ars Ares.
		About five dead.
		Bloody attack occurred as UN security experts began to study the possible return of UN international staff to play a key role in Iraq's transformation to democracy.
		Well, I don't know.
		Maybe the UN will go back.
		Is it any safer today, do you think, than when the UN said, hey, it's not safe.
		We're leaving?
		It would not appear so to me.
		Howard Dean sharply questioned John Kerry's judgment on Iraq Saturday as Democratic presidential rivals raced through a final frozen weekend of campaigning up in New Hampshire.
		He said, quote, I would be deeply concerned about the kind of judgment in the White House, end quote, said Dean, the one-time frontrunner who did a screech that has been heard around the world several times, as a matter of fact.
		Secretary of State Colin Powell held out the possibility Saturday, it'd be for the first time, that pre-war Iraq may not have had weapons of mass destruction after all.
		Powell was asked about weapons of mass destruction and about comments last week by David Kaye, the outgoing leader of the U.S. weapons search team in Iraq that didn't believe Iraq had a large quantity of chemical or biological weapons.
		And let's see, what else have, oh, with luck, the world will escape the latest outbreak of bird flu with no more than the six human deaths already blamed on it and the loss of millions of chickens.
		But public health experts worry of a much greater disaster, a catastrophe they say is among the worst imaginable, a global outbreak of an entirely new form of human flu.
		There is no clear sign that will happen.
		Nevertheless, bird influenza's sudden sweep through Asia, along with its tendency for wholesale mutation, have left many wondering about the bug's potential for rampant spread among humans.
		It is a possibility the medical journal, the Lancet calls, massively frightening.
		Now, it is massively frightening.
		It really is.
		The fact that more and more species jumps appear.
		By the way, that was the Associated Press that I just read you, the hourly news from the Associated Press.
		Just so you know where that came from, no scare stuff, just in the regular old five-minute summary.
		More and more species jumping going on.
		What do you make out of that?
		And out of this, what do you make?
		A security guard at BASF, the chemical plant, was shot in the shoulder Saturday after he approached a suspicious truck and talked to a man who said that he had been taking pictures.
		The guard's name was not released, but Freeport police said that he was doing well at a hospital following the Friday night shooting.
		The guard told police The gunman was a man described as a man of Middle Eastern descent with bushy hair and a mustache.
		The man was driving a white pickup with tinted windows and a black stripe.
		Now, the plant has a very, very large ammonia tank.
		And of course, they go on to say they have no indication here that it is terrorist-related, but boy, it sure sounds like it, doesn't it?
		And here's one that you ought to catch up on.
		Remember the story?
		Do you remember the story about the pilot who ran his plane into the Colorado Rockies?
		Nobody could figure out.
		Well, they still don't know.
		Air Force investigators have concluded, though, that Robert Craig Button, whose A-10 jet mysteriously crashed in the Colorado Rockies after breaking away from formation during a training run in April, probably committed suicide.
		This from CNN, they learned in a report due out Monday that military investigators are going to call the incident a case of spontaneous or unpremeditated suicide, largely because they have ruled out any other explanation for the crash.
		That's interesting.
		Spontaneous or unpremeditated suicide?
		Because you don't have any other answer.
		No evidence Button was contemplating suicide.
		He didn't get his affairs in order or report that he'd received a call from his significant other.
		That's not true.
		Turned out to be not true.
		No drugs, no alcohol involved.
		So I guess they're going to call it unpremeditated or spontaneous suicide.
		Strange stuff.
		Open lines coming up.
		right where you are.
unidentified		Psh Psh Psh Psh Psh Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All of you know the phone numbers, so grab a telephone and join in.
		Once again, the big news of the hour, of course.
		We are once again, within the hour and a little more, safely down on Mars.
		And rover number one is in recovery, and things are looking good, according to the scientists.
		Anyway, once again, don't forget tomorrow night, tomorrow night, we'll have a complete open line program, which means anything you want to talk about.
		But I'm always up for, as you know, when I do an open line show, I'm always up for special lines.
		So if you have something, some favorite subject that you would like to see ruminated upon at some depth, you might email me at one of my operative email addresses, artbell at mindspring.com or artbell at aol.com.
		That's A-R-T-B-E-L-L lowercase at A-O-L or MindSpring.
		Either one will get to me.
		So to the lines we go.
		East of the Rockies.
		You are on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		I'd like you to explain how the wonderful missions to Mars that succeed occur in the middle of your program.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Usually conveniently about an hour before my program with the last Mars probe.
		And this Mars probe, I have no idea, sir.
		It's good timing.
		I don't know.
unidentified		Could you get somebody to justify our space expenses by asteroid detection and expenses?
unidentified		Somebody like Lloyd's the one that has to reinsure some of this damage.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's interesting.
		We, of course, we have a great danger that is circling and circling and circling and in orbit and comes by the Earth every now and then.
		All of these rock-like objects, rock-like objects.
		That's what they are, though, and some of them bigger than others.
		I think we know of about 10% of them, and about 90% we don't know about.
		I think that's an appropriate figure.
		And, of course, without any warning whatsoever, one of these objects could strike the earth, doing to us what was done to the dinosaurs.
		You imagine that in the blink of an eye.
		Just like that.
		No warning.
		It came out of the sun.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
unidentified		This is Chris.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hey, Chris.
unidentified		Up in Fairbanks, Alaska.
unidentified		Let's see on AM970 kayaking.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Way up north.
unidentified		Yeah, it's actually warmer up here than the East Coast again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is it really?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How warm?
unidentified		One above?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All of one above.
unidentified		Well, it was up to 10 today.
unidentified		Shorts and too short weather.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		One of the things I wanted to talk about was the mass consciousness experiments.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
unidentified		And I'd actually decided to set up a site to try and conduct these.
		And I got an email address and everything for it.
		I was wondering if I could give that out on the air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let's back up a little bit.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What kind of mass consciousness experiments would you be conducting?
unidentified		The FBI top 10 most wonderless, for instance, if we could actually use mass consciousness to capture them.
unidentified		Stuff like that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Because those are the only types of people.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let me slow you up here.
		While that would seem a worthy goal, I mean, to catch bad guys and that kind of thing, we don't know yet enough about this power.
		And it may be a very great power indeed, in my opinion, to go willy-nilly experimenting, no matter how laudable the cause may seem.
		Now, maybe I can have my mind changed on that, but we don't understand enough of this power and or the way events work.
		Let me give you a what-if, all right?
		Let's say that you had a mass consciousness experiment and so-and-so was captured.
		Well, suppose the way the cosmos really works is that as bad as that so-and-so was, he was going to do something that would end up, oh, God, who knows, you know, saving a president's life or something.
		I mean, you're tampering with forces that you Don't understand, and I don't.
unidentified		Well, if it's going to actually happen that way, then I think God would intervene in it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, I don't know.
		There's this free will thing, and maybe part of it includes the use of a power like this.
		So, my answer to you is that I would prefer not to be part of that kind of experiment until I know more.
unidentified		Well, the other thing I wanted to get a hold of, too, was people out there seem to have these weird coincidences that go on in their lives.
		This one guy this week was talking about how he was planning to go to Gettysburg, and he was sorting mail from New York City, and all of a sudden this postcard slipped out with the Gettysburg picture on it.
		And I want to try and get a hold of some of those.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's not exactly an uncommon thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, if you're sorting mail, Gettysburg is a pretty common pictorial site, right?
unidentified		From New York City?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, I mean, if you're sorting mail, you're going to, I mean, it's common on a postcard.
unidentified		Yeah, but the postcard came from New York City.
		What are they doing with a Gettysburg postcard?
		We don't even have them up here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's interesting.
unidentified		I know, but I don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There are, I mean, there are people who say there are no such thing as coincidences.
		Well, yes, there are.
		There are coincidences.
		I suppose you can use that phrase with a broad stroke to try and impart some sort of meaning.
		But there are, in fact, coincidences.
		Things do happen that are coincidences.
		And as our mind tries to make sense, for example, of misshapen objects on Mars that we see a little blurry, like the clouds, you know, whoa, there's Uncle Fred.
		Look at that.
		You know, it's the same sort of thing.
		We have Gettysburg on the mind, and we see Gettysburg, and we think, oh, paranormal occurrence.
		Well, maybe not.
		Maybe it is a coincidence.
		First time caller line, you're on air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Hi, Art.
		This is Chris from Colorado.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hey, Chris.
unidentified		I love your show, and such a pleasure to talk to you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		A little nervous here.
		Something happened to me about 25 years ago, and I figured with your experience, maybe you can tell me what it was.
		My sister and I, we grew up in Wisconsin, and one night we went to bed, and our beds, we had twin beds, they run parallel.
		I saw this green glowing object under my sister's bed.
		So the next morning, I get up thinking it's some glow-in-the-dark ball or something I love.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, let me stop you right there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Didn't you, what's your sister's name?
unidentified		My sister's name is Lynn.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Lynn.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, if you woke up in the middle of the night and saw a green glowing object under Lynn's bed, why didn't you say, hey, Lynn, there's something glowing under your bed?
unidentified		I did.
unidentified		I did.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you did?
unidentified		Yeah, I did.
		And at the time, in the beginning, we thought nothing of it.
		We thought, because we were kids in our early teens, we thought we'd left something there.
		So the next morning, I get up and I go, look, there's nothing there.
		Well, the next night, it's back.
		Now I'm thinking, I had an older brother, and I thought, okay, he's playing a joke on me.
		And so, once again, I tell him, stop it.
		We know you're doing something.
		He's like, he had nothing, he didn't know what we were talking about.
		Well, then the next night, it appears under my bed.
		And then the night after that, I see it under our desk.
		The night after that, my sister sees it under the dresser.
		And of course, we're freaked out.
		You know, we're 13, 12 years old.
		And we're like, you get up and go look.
		I'm not getting up and going to look.
		Well, finally, it went on about a week, and I get up the courage, and I say to it, I say, okay, we see you.
		We know you're here.
		Go away.
		Leave us alone.
		And we never saw it again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, let me tell you something.
		Young, prepezent, young ladies like yourself and your sister, stuff like that happens around them because they have all kinds of reaging hormones and stuff, and they produce, no, don't laugh.
		It's very well documented, and they produce anomalous things like that around them.
		So think about that.
		Could be.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Thanks, Arch.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Later.
		Wild Carline.
		You would have been on the air.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Hello?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, hello.
		You're on the air.
		Surprise.
unidentified		Oh, I'm sorry.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Don't be sorry.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You don't have to be sorry.
unidentified		I'm calling from Indiana.
		Yeah.
		1070.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		And I'm fairly new to the program, but I've noticed a lot of people call seeing things in southern Indiana.
unidentified		And I'm going to be doing some gardening down there this summer and kind of in a secluded area.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		And it's kind of worried me about the amount of people that call in from southern Indiana.
unidentified		And I was wondering with your experience, if you know of any like UFO repellent or alien repellent or, you know, something just to put my mind at ease.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, yes, actually, we have a combination spray, alien and UFO repellent, $19.95.
		Excellent.
		Absolute results guaranteed or your money back if you make it back.
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		Well, I've noticed a lot of people call in from that area and it's kind of got me freaked out because I'm going to be in some pretty secluded areas all summer.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, dark areas, garden areas.
unidentified		Dark wooded areas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Things could come out of the bushes and from behind the trees and you could be part of the ground before you know what hit you.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Uh-huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, have a good summer.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Take care.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Oh, hi, Art.
		This is Edna.
		I'm in Montrose, California, which is near L.A. Hey, Edna.
		Hey, a couple things.
		First, you know, there's no Tesla Museum in the United States.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Tesla Museum?
unidentified		You're right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There isn't, is there?
unidentified		The only museum I know about is in what they used to call Yugoslavia, Serbia, in Belgrade.
unidentified		I don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He did most of his inventing or discovering of inventions here in the U.S. Why do you think that Tesla has not been appropriately recognized for his contributions?
unidentified		The powers that be, the people trying to keep him out of the...
		That could be.
		That might be.
		And another important question, and I've got to find out about this.
		Are we ever going to find Out or get some Art Bell and Ramona Bell pizza sauce?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't know.
		That's a very good question.
		Pizza Punch, we called it.
		Remember?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, I don't have the answer to that question.
		I still don't.
		I'm sorry, I don't.
		It's a long story, but in Paris, we went to this very interesting little tiny restaurant run by an Italian on the outskirts of Paris, and he had this incredible sauce that we put on a cheese pizza there.
		And Ramona, being very talented at discerning what's in a bottle, and he brought this bottle out with all these ingredients.
		You know, you could see them all floating in there.
unidentified		And, oh, my God, it was good on pizza.
unidentified		It was really good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And Ramona identified and then replicated, back engineered, if you will, the pizza sauce when we got home.
		And she nailed it, I'll tell you right now, because I love that stuff.
		I love it.
		However, we have never divulged the contents, at least yet.
		From the high desert in the great American Southwest, this is Coast to Coast AM.
		I'm Art Bell, and we'll be accompanying you all night long.
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		Get in with me.
		Show a smile for the people you need.
		On Trollers Drive.
		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Here we go.
unidentified		In the night, in the world, city light, painting girls.
		In the day, nothing matters.
		In the night, something matters in the night.
		Look at home.
		Something like it, wearing white, as you're walking down the street, how about someone?
		You take myself, you take myself alone, you got me living only for the night.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		Top of the morning, everybody.
unidentified		I'm Art Bell, and we're rapping right now in Open Lime.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So those are the numbers.
		Join us in the next hour.
		We're going to be talking about mass consciousness.
		As you know, one of the very last things that I explored in the full-time show and I continue to explore throughout the time that I get to spend with you on weekends.
		I think consciousness, mass consciousness, directed consciousness, may be the most powerful force in the universe.
		We'll be right back.
unidentified		We'll be right back.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right back into the nighttime, as it were, and all of you.
		Good evening.
		You're on the Air Coast Coast AM on the international line.
		What is your name?
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello?
unidentified		Hello?
		Yes.
		Oh, hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it's you.
		It's you.
		What is your first name?
unidentified		Kevin.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, Kevin, what's up?
unidentified		Okay, so I was actually going to see if your guest would discuss symbolism at all.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He's not here yet.
unidentified		Oh, he's not?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Haven't you been listening?
unidentified		Pardon me?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		and you've been listening well you usually told to turn off the radio just left off your heart for a happy happy to have a happy Well, if you have any thoughts on mass consciousness, which is what he'll be talking about when he does get here, you're welcome to express them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you think?
unidentified		Well, I guess my interest lies in programming and symbolism.
unidentified		As we grow up, we're programming.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Programming and symbolism.
unidentified		Yeah, we're programmed through our surroundings and people around us, etc.
		And I find it interesting that as you get older, your programming exists, and we're all programmed sort of together with the same surroundings around us.
		And that's sort of, I find that an interesting topic.
		And I wonder if maybe you could ask your guest what that was.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I will.
		It is interesting.
		Yeah, very interesting, actually.
		We are all programmed by our environment, right?
		By the things that happen to us, by the news that we see every day, by the shared experiences we have.
		And this has a fascinating impact on a society.
		I mean, potentially, think about it a little bit.
		In the old days, before mass communications, we were still all shaped by our environment.
		But the difference now is that our environment is so connected that we're all influenced by exactly the same things.
		We watch CNN or CNN International.
		We have the internet where ideas are spread at the speed of light.
		We have so much interconnectivity that Our environment is so similar that I don't know.
		How do you think that's affecting us?
		Do you think it actually might slow the process of evolution, for example?
		There are many who maintain that the process of evolution itself occurs because of large, dramatic, traumatic events like rocks falling from the heavens, you know, and wiping out the dinosaurs and allowing man to come forth.
		That's what creates the leaps in evolution.
		Well, do you get those kinds of leaps when you have a homogenized world in touch with itself?
		I don't know.
		Interesting.
		First-time color line, you're on air.
		Hi.
		Now you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		In Santa Maria, California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And your first name?
		Steve.
		Steve, okay.
unidentified		Long time listeners.
unidentified		First time I called, obviously.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		For not abusing the first-time color line.
unidentified		Two things that kind of blend into one.
unidentified		Weapons of mass destruction and the thing about all the hoopla about can we afford to go to Mars in the moon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Maybe if we find the weapons of mass destruction, we can blow ourselves to the moon.
unidentified		That's true.
		And my big question, which I hear nobody asking, is where are they?
		Not did he have them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, they are asking that.
		Well, they're asking both.
		Were they ever really there in the first place?
		And secondly, of course, where the hell are they?
unidentified		Well, unless he lied to the UN in his declaration that he had several large amounts of several different types of anthrax included, they were there.
unidentified		And if we don't find them, then where are they?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're not accusing Saddam Hussein of lying, are you?
unidentified		Well, I'd accuse him of almost anything and go to sleep at night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		You know, for the first time, the administration seems to be leaning toward suggesting that even they are beginning to believe there may not have been any weapons of mass destruction.
		There was a new team taking over, and the old team said, uh-uh, they weren't there.
		No way.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
		Hello.
		Well, when I hear you talking to Richard C. Hoagland or Richard C. Hoagland about Mars, Peter Davenport about UFOs and so forth, I always wonder what the rest of the world is doing or thinking about this.
		The other industrialized nations, for instance.
		For instance, if aliens really did crash at Roswell, or if in some other way we're back engineering stuff, are the French back engineering stuff too?
		Are they having symposia and talking about UFOs the way we are?
		And the whole question of the militarization of space and Richard C. Hoagland's theory that perhaps the computer control of the rover was interfered with, the programming was taken over and also possibly Hubble's going to be blinded on purpose so nobody will be able to know what's going on.
		All this stuff.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The great conspiracies.
unidentified		No, no, no, no.
unidentified		I'm not necessarily saying there are conspiracies, but we shouldn't only talk about what the thinking is and what's going on in this country, is what I'm trying to say.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The French, and you brought them up, they're so self-centered they probably would think UFOs, if they did land, would only land in Paris anyway.
unidentified		Well, that could be.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what other countries think.
		Thank you very much.
		I think that the Chinese are probably, we are the, you know what?
		They're the reason that we're announcing we're going back to the moon.
		Because now we have somebody to race with, right?
		The Chinese.
		They said they're going to send men to the moon.
		So now we're in a race again.
		Sort.
		Go back to the moon.
		We can't let China beat us to the moon.
		Even though we've already gone, according to the larger percentage of you out there anyway.
		East of the Rockies, you're on air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Hi.
		Happy New Year.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you, sir.
unidentified		This is David from Bryan, Texas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Welcome.
		And I had a couple of things.
		One had to do with the possible artifacts on Mars.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		And I think that there's a possibility that during Noah's flood, Mars was the planet that brought the ice to the Earth and almost hit it.
		And the oceans may have touched it.
		And the superior people of Noah's day had their own boats trying to survive the flood.
		And that may be the artifacts at the top of the seas that touched Mars that were left behind.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, you really can't rule anything out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, we could be Martians.
unidentified		Well, I was thinking on the order of a hundred-mile tidal wave, you know, 100-mile high, reaching like a teardrop toward Mars, the way the moon pulls the tides.
unidentified		If Mars came within about 100 miles of the Earth, any ice on its surface would have been lost to the Earth or fragmentized ice caps, which came across Texas, and it was nothing ever since.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Millions of years ago, we really have no way of knowing what happened, do we?
		We know a couple of things, or we think we know a couple of things.
		One, that there is water on Mars now, probably subterranean.
		As a matter of fact, they found a Mars rock, I'll tell you about that tomorrow, here on Earth, that would seem to suggest also that indeed there was, and there's minerals affected in a certain way by water, and they found that in a rock that they know somehow is from Mars.
		Now, don't ask me how they know the rock is from Mars.
		So we think we know there was water there and there was air there.
		There's every probability with water and air that you might have life.
		All those millions of years ago.
		And then the imagination, of course, goes to work.
		And we know that Mars got ruined.
		They lost what atmosphere they had.
		They lost the surface water.
		And there was some sort of catastrophic event.
		Could we be Martians?
		Yeah.
		Could be.
		Buster of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		AIART.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		What is your way of pizza sauce recipe that comes back a thousand fold or not?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
unidentified		Could be a blessing or a curse, karmically, huh?
		Yeah, you never know.
		Sure would like to hear it, though.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know.
unidentified		Yeah, I heard a weird thing.
		I talked to a technician from a vet lab yesterday.
		I had to put my singing Schnauzer Max to sleep a couple weeks ago, and someone ended up with his caller, and the phone number was there, and I ended up hooking up with this technician.
		And she said that they had their first case of a cat getting a heartworm.
		More interesting than that, she said that there was a human case of heartworm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Heartworm any human?
unidentified		Yeah, I've never ever heard of that.
		And it's supposedly fatal.
		So you were talking about early diseases earlier.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, species jumpers, right?
unidentified		Yeah, apparently that fits the, if it's true, but I don't understand why the hell she would make it up.
		Anyway, I thought maybe for an open line thing might be interesting.
		George laughed at me, but I was saying I've been seeing insects that are mutated, you know.
		I mean, I've been catching them and so forth.
		And another guy that's a teacher found some up here in Northern California, too, and he saw the same thing I saw, four-legged earwigs and eight-legged insects with head thorax and abdomen.
		Insects with eight legs.
		Anyway, I'd like to say hi to my old Dutch sailing friend, Big Owl, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Tell me about that Big Owl there.
		Thank you very much.
		Mutated insects, huh?
		Well, that would be a very bad sign.
		Very bad.
		Mutated insects.
		Worms.
		Who wants to hear about a worm?
		Can you imagine having a worm in your heart?
		Sitting down in front of your doctor?
		I'm sorry, son.
		We just did an MRI and there's a worm in there.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		Hello?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello?
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Shall we dance?
unidentified		Huh?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're on the air.
unidentified		Oh, okay.
		Yes.
		I'm like a kid, you know, and I have a lot of stuff to ask you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You what?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You have a lot to ask me?
unidentified		I'm a kid.
unidentified		I have some questions to ask you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, fire away.
unidentified		Okay, the first.
unidentified		Who was God before God?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Who was God before you?
unidentified		Yep.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Who was God before God?
		Adults are asked these kinds of questions all the time.
		And go out and play.
		You know, I have no way of answering such a question.
		I honestly don't.
		Sorry, there is no quip I can give you or little tiny bit of wisdom that would satisfy you.
		I don't know.
		Okay, and then nobody knows.
unidentified		Okay, and do you know those shadow people?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The shadow people, yes.
unidentified		Okay.
		Well, when I'm downstairs playing my game, nobody else is home.
		I'm like looking at my dresser and I cycle time shadows walk by, but nobody else is home.
		Is that one?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is that a shadow person?
		Yeah, in all likelihood it is.
		Shadow people are something that came up during my last year of full employment here.
		And whatever they are, they're real.
		These are beings that you see usually just in your peripheral vision, you know, just off in the corner of your vision, and they sort of flip by.
		Well, more and more people began seeing them not only in peripheral vision, but straight on.
		And we just started calling them shadow people for lack of a better name because they appear like a shadow, just here and gone, but definitely here.
		And that's the point.
		Here for a moment, here in some undetectable way.
		It is something.
		I don't know what, but it is something.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, Ark.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		Welcome back.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		I'll try and be brief.
unidentified		This past summer, I believe I was buzzed by one of those insect-sized surveillance planes that the government has been developing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And the reason I think so.
		How small?
		How small?
unidentified		It was about 10 feet away from me, so I would guess it was about - it looked kind of like a dragonfly, but it wasn't a dragonfly.
unidentified		It had a body that may be about .
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you think our government is building surveillance craft inside what would appear to be a big bug?
unidentified		I've read some articles about things like that.
unidentified		Yeah, they're developing that to use supposedly against our enemies.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's pretty neat.
unidentified		But I have a garden and I see all kinds of bugs and birds and things, and it's like nothing I've seen before.
		And it was too big to be a dragonfly, but that's probably what it most closely resembled.
		And I wanted to call in a couple of weeks ago when you had the bragging.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You really think it was a government bug?
unidentified		Well, I don't know.
		I mean, I could have misinterpreted what it was, but it didn't look natural.
		It didn't sound natural.
		It had a very mechanical kind of sound to it.
		It didn't sound like a bug buzzing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's way cool.
unidentified		And I wanted to call in a few weeks ago when you had the robotics guy on, but I didn't have a chance.
unidentified		And so maybe the next time you have somebody who has expertise in that field, you ask me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I guarantee you I will ask.
unidentified		All right, I appreciate it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, take care.
		What a concept.
		The government making bugs.
		Innocent little or not-so-little bugs.
		Like a dragon, something about the size of a dragonfly to spy on Americans or our enemies.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hey, Art.
unidentified		This is Jerry from Knoxville, Tennessee.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Hey, man.
unidentified		About five years ago, you played a show from this guy, Dr. Reed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Dr. Reed and his dog.
unidentified		His dog, yeah, the dog that got turned inside out by the aliens.
		Yes.
		If you ever go on vacation or something, would I play that program?
		And that was one of the best shows you ever did.
		I've been listening for about 10 years, and I played that for some of the guys that I work with, and they just couldn't believe it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, after we did that program, there were many, many, many, many, many internet investigations.
		And there are those who claim that they found Dr. Reed or one of his associates, that it was all bogus.
		But you know, I had him on several times and his story always remained consistent.
		And of course, he had photographs, and it was, it remains, uh, to me, an intriguing story.
		And I don't know that it's all been busted as some sort of myth or put-on or any of the rest of it, but I know there have been investigations.
		A very, very interesting story.
		West for the Rockies, you are on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Hello?
		Hello?
		Yes, hello.
		Hey, Lord, how you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm doing all right.
unidentified		Turn your radio off and very good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're in a truck, aren't you?
unidentified		Yes, sir, I am.
		I'm right outside of a place called Law Fields in California here.
		All right.
		And it's something I just gotta tell you.
		I phoned in one time and told it to George.
		I don't know if he took me serious or not, but I heard another guy call in on your show and said something similar, and this has been eating at me away.
		One time, it's got something to do about different dimensions.
		This is a serious thought.
		Now, one time I just bought a brand new car back in 88, and I was fumbling with the radio and driving at the same time.
		I was on my way to the store.
		I just told my wife, baby, I'm going to run to the store.
		I'll be right back.
		Okay, now, while I was fumbing with that radio, I made a mistake and I ran the red light, and the car coming the opposite way passed right through me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, believe me when I tell you, I have heard this from not just you, but many people.
		Exactly the same thing.
		And the only thing that I can offer up to you is maybe there is some kind of cosmic reason for everything, and it wasn't your time.
unidentified		Yeah, but there's something else to this here.
unidentified		Let me tell you what happened later.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Very quickly.
unidentified		Okay, very quickly.
		Okay, so I went on and I never told nobody until I talked with Georgia about it about five months ago.
		Yes.
		Okay, now, back in, before that car passed through me, it was a guy that I knew that had gotten killed.
		And I just saw last week this guy in the paper in the obituary saying that he had just died.
		And I know this guy got killed back in 88.
		I know, I remember it vividly.
		So I was thinking of some kind of way, I must have got knocked into another time zone in another dimension or something.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I've got the picture.
		Well, that goes along with like the Nelson Mandela stuff.
		And as far as the car passing through you, buddy, it just wasn't your time.
		That's about all I can offer up.
		From the high desert, I'm Art Bell.
unidentified		All right, it's coming on.
		We gotta get right back to where we can start it from.
		Love is good, love will be stronger.
		We gotta get right back to where we started from Do you remember that?
		When you first came my way I said no one could take your place And if you get hurt, if you get hurt I don't think I'd get to the place.
		Who will come to me, baby, you'll see.
		Who's gonna help you through the night?
		Who's gonna help you through the night?
		Who's gonna say to me?
		Who's gonna love you, love you?
		Who's gonna love you?
		Who's gonna love you?
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is indeed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		By the way, the webcam shot up there of me, I forgot to mention that in the first hour.
unidentified		That's smiling like a big Cheshire cat.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm actually in our RV and we're, I don't know, like 200 miles north of Las Vegas.
		And that picture was sent back to the page by internet, by an internet service that I have, so that, you know, I need internet in the coach, right?
		And we've got cameras in there, and so that was pretty cool.
		We were about 200 miles from north of Las Vegas when we took that photograph.
		Anyway, coming up in a moment, one of my favorite topics of all time, really, or current time anyway, is mass consciousness and consciousness itself.
		And so Dr. Garland Landreth, he was the first to publish in a conservative, peer-reviewed scientific journal about how the thoughts of individuals can actually influence the outer world by reducing such variables as crime, automobile accidents, even suicides.
		His research found that within our minds, we have the ability to decrease these negative variables simply by our thoughts alone.
		His research has been published in numerous peer-reviewed scientific journals.
		He's also taught at numerous psychology classes at major universities and even at the federal penitentiary at Leavenworth.
		At his first opportunity, he traveled to the Far East and studied several years in China and India in an attempt to understand the meaning of this life.
		Oh, I've got a good question for him then.
		During this time, he lived as a monk while studying with some great teachers.
		Dr. Landruth received his master's in social psychology at the University of Kansas and later achieved his Ph.D. in psychology.
		He has had thousands of individual and group training sessions that have helped clients become more attuned with their intuition and achieve a greater ability to listen to their own inner wisdom.
		in a moment dr landris And now, Dr. Garland Landrith.
		Doctor, welcome to the program.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Great being here, Hart.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is this your first time?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Well, glad to have you, and particularly on this topic.
		Just before we plunge into everything here, I thought I would ask you, certainly with your background, who was God before God?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Great one.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Who was God before God?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Now, that one is an interesting one.
		Let me think about that.
		I can give you an answer to that one right at the moment.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We'll let you meditate.
unidentified		I think I probably need a long time to meditate on that one.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		I think God always, what we probably term as a God is probably always been there.
		It is existence itself.
		But we'll be getting into that in a roundabout way.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's very hard to contemplate always been there.
		Always been there.
		Always been there.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's been there.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		It's kind of a difficult concept.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Can't get your mind around that.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In the meantime, let's begin at the beginning here.
		Before we even talk about this whole thing at large, I want to talk about what consciousness.
		What have you determined, Doctor, consciousness is?
		If we were to define it, you know, come up with a Webster's thing.
		What is it?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		I think, you know, this is a great question.
		Great thinkers have actually been debating this one for thousands of years.
		And I think one question that can be related to this is why we have the ability to reflect about ourselves at all.
		I mean, it's kind of amazing that we have this experience to be able to have the experience of being in an experience, if you know what I'm saying.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you saying then that the ability to reflect on one's own existence constitutes a part of consciousness or a component of it?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Yes, and it's just being in the experience itself, the fact that we're aware of it.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		And because, you know, when you think about it from a Darwinian point of view, it's not very adaptable.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do cats and dogs then, by extension, have that ability?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Or can you rule it out?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, that's a great question.
		And it's actually in the past 10 years, I would say about 20 years ago, people did not, most scientists did not think that cats and dogs had the ability to self-reflect.
		But recent research has been finding that indeed cats and dogs probably do have self-awareness.
		Maybe not as developed as ours, but they definitely have a self-awareness.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think they do, too.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		I mean, they're quite amazing creatures, actually.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, indeed, they are.
		You have to be very close to one, one or the other, or some animal, to know.
		I'm not limiting it to cats and dogs either.
		I think animals are a concept of self-awareness.
		So that's part of the human consciousness, the ability to reflect on our own existence, and I suppose even beyond.
		That's maybe part of it, but there's got to be more.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot more.
		And, you know, because most Western scientists have considered consciousness simply to be a byproduct of brain material, and hence has very little relevance.
		The research that you've been doing with mass consciousness things, the things that I've been involved with, and many others, have demonstrated that consciousness is far more than just a byproduct of brain activity.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I believe so, Doctor.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you and I are probably going to run into a brick wall somewhere along here because in reading what I read at the beginning of the program, you're advocating, if I have this right, you're advocating the use of this power to decrease the negative variables that might be out there, like suicidal people, that sort of thing, with this power.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Yes and no.
		I'm saying that, this is an interesting one because you're bringing up a very in-depth kind of discussion here at the very beginning.
		I would say that when you have more of that creative, positive force being stimulated, then those things go naturally down.
		It's not that you go out and you can, although you have demonstrated that you can do it by your intention alone, but this also can be done in another way through reducing the creative forces of energy.
		I mean, increasing the creative forces of energy.
		It's a little bit different than intention.
		Well, because, okay, let me give you some examples.
		There's some studies that have been done on group consciousness.
		Dr. Dean Radden, you've had him as your guest.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've had Dean on the aerial, of course.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		In one study he did, and I was going to go in this later, but we might as well start on it now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, let's just rock the way it goes.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
		He had a series of experiments where they were actually looking at machines, random generating machines, but these were actually quantum machines.
		And people could intend to change the behavior of those random generators.
		Now, a random generator is something like a zero or a one.
		It either produces a zero or a one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Well, these machines are very sophisticated on a quantum level.
		And they actually, you know, over time, over a short period of time, they will come up with almost 50% zeros and 50% ones.
		I mean, exactly, to the mouth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Random number generators.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		And when you have the intention to change these machines, then you can change them with more ones or more zeros.
		Now, granted, the effect is rather small, but it's very consistent and it's been replicated thousands of times.
		And another thing that he was measuring was the group consciousness effect of large groups attending to huge events, like the Olympic ceremonies, for instance.
		And the Olympic ceremonies, I think it was one in 1996.
		They weren't attending to these machines.
		They were attending to the Olympic ceremonies.
		And so, but what's interesting, these machines were in place, and so they would tend to be less random during the Olympic ceremonies.
		Now, what's really intriguing is during the commercials, they went back to being random.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so it's quite fascinating.
		But again, they weren't trying to make the machines less random.
		And maybe that kind of explains what we were talking about.
		In some of the meditation studies that we have done, the reduction in crime rates were done as a byproduct of the meditation.
		The meditators did not even know they were participating in that kind of experiment.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've got a little software program called Shape Tech that was put out for a while.
		It's no longer available, to the best of my understanding.
		But it was put out by Para Inc., and it gave you an opportunity to, on your computer, drag down the picture of your choice.
		For example, I can drag a globe down on the left, and I can drag random white noise down on the right.
		And then it's called chaos.
		And on the other, you've got a picture of Earth.
		And then once you start the program running, your job is to make either the Earth appear solidly or the random noise appear solidly, whichever you choose.
		And then it will time you and rate you.
		And this is a very, very interesting program.
		And I found pretty scary results with it, Doctor.
		I can sit here and I can force on average 70 to 80 percent of the time I'm a winner.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Now, that's amazing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, as a controlled experiment, the other thing you can do is to start the program running and just go into the other room and have a cup of coffee.
		Or just go into the other room and don't do anything.
		And you come back and then the percentage falls down to way, way down.
		And so it's obviously working.
		It actually works.
		You can affect a machine this way.
		There's no doubt about it.
		You can do it.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		It's amazing.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		It is absolutely amazing what's going on out there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Can you explain the process that allows the physical manipulation through the air without any energy transfers that we understand?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Yes, exactly.
		Modern physics, at least the regular physics that we think of, not the quantum level physics, cannot explain it.
		Because when you look at the brain, the brain has very low voltage emissions.
		I mean, you have to use sophisticated machines just to even measure brain waves.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let us add at frequencies we're capable of detecting detecting right now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, there may be some sort of radiation occurring in a spectrum that we don't have a hint about yet.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Well, we've been measuring stuff at a very, very, you know, physics has got even electron microscopes where we can look at electrons, you know, and everything like that.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		So, of course, our sophistication in brain technology is not nearly as advanced as they are in physics.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not nearly.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		But we have now mRIs and we have PET scans and we have stuff we didn't have 10 years ago.
		And some of those things are starting to get really sophisticated.
		But the question is, what kind of energy is it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		i think it's a quantum field in that regard Can you break that down in a way that the average person can understand it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What is a quantum field?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Well, let me just start from the beginning here.
		Let's see.
		I think your audience might be familiar with some of the research that's been done.
		So I can kind of jump ahead like this.
		But the main thing is some of the research has found that we can know events before they actually happen in normal time and space.
		And this research is very consistent and very remarkable.
		I know for a fact there's been 50 studies done on it in different laboratories all across the world.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I absolutely believe it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		One of the research studies, for instance, found that if you have a negative photograph and you're going to be presented with that negative photograph and you have also a positive photograph, the study was actually looking at how we react before the photographs were presented to us.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		So what they did is they randomly presented us with these two photographs, a real negative, gruesome photograph, like a photograph of somebody in the morgue.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Then a very nice, pleasant photograph.
		And lo and behold, they were using GSR machines, which are similar to a lie detector.
		They measure anxiety by measuring the skin conductance in your skin.
		And they found that these people knew what was going to happen before it was actually going to happen by their body's reaction.
		in other words the body would give off this anxiety about two or three seconds before the actual negative picture was there but it not did not have the same anxiety before the positive picture you know that's that's remarkably likely experiments with the uh i think it was heads of lettuce or plants um that uh that knew the
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A scientist would come in with a big knife and would slice a plant in half, and then he'd leave the room.
		And then a bunch of other guys in white coats would come in and they had every machine in the world hooked up to the plants.
		And the other guys in white coats, plants didn't sweat, no problem.
		But when the guy who had assassinated the plant earlier came in, all the monitors went berserk.
		Now, come on.
		Plants?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Beautiful.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		I love that study.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But it's true.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		No, there is some amazing things going on.
		And the study I just mentioned has been done.
		Well, there's another variation on it, too.
		They did another one with EEGs, actually an NMRI, excuse me.
		And they had, you know, because they were so dumbfounded by these results in this particular laboratory.
		They did it in another laboratory, replicated the same results.
		And not only that, they used an MRI.
		And they found not only did this happen, did we know two seconds beforehand, we also knew four seconds with an MRI.
		So we actually know things before they're going to happen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's remarkable.
		And it says all kinds of things about the nature of time.
		Boy, does it say a lot about time?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		You got it.
unidentified		Now we're starting to talk about quantum.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I assume that a quantum field exists not in linear time as we understand it, but out across time, in the present, in the past, in the future.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It just is everywhere.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Yes, and that's beautifully put.
		I think they have done some experiments that have blown the scientists' minds, to put it literally and figuratively.
		And what they found is that, for instance, they were trying to study electrons for many years.
		And they kept trying to measure these electrons, and they kept getting disparate results.
		So what they did was they finally said, well, let's just try to shoot this atom right into a screen.
		Let's not try to measure it.
		And let's see what we find, where this electron is and how fast it's moving.
		So they kind of shot it into this screen and they found out something intriguing, something incredible.
		The electron was not located in time and space.
		It was located everywhere in time and space.
		So it showed up all over the screen, everywhere.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, really?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Yes, exactly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I need to understand more about this.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Let me give you an example.
		Now, this is being a poor example, but this may be easy for everybody to visualize.
		Normally, what you have is an atom.
		Let's say it's taken, and then you have like an electron or two running around that atom.
		Let's just take a simple one with one atom and one electron.
unidentified		Right.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		So what you have is they've been trying, they use very sophisticated machinery to try to measure the movements and where this atom is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		I mean, the electron.
		It's not the atom.
		And they've been able to document where it was.
		Now, here's something even more far out.
		And I don't know what was happening.
unidentified		Okay, but what I didn't get is how they document measure it.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Because what happened was, when you try to measure it, the electron appears.
		When you don't try to measure it, the electron is everywhere at once.
		And that is the best way I can explain it.
		It completely boggles the mind.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It does.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		The experiment, when I read about it, I was so intrigued.
		And you know what?
		I would say maybe one person in a thousand even knows about the experiment.
		But that experiment tells us a lot about what's happening with the other experiments on people that we just talked about.
		They have labeled this in physics.
		What do they call that?
		They called it, let's see here.
		Where do they call it?
		I forgot the name of the name, but I'll call quantum.
		Let's see, it's called, I'm trying to remember here.
		Quantum superimposition.
		In other words, it can be in many places at the same time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Quantum super super imposition.
unidentified		Yeah.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Which means it can be in all places at once.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Which means it breaks every time-space boundary that we know about matter.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Which is what we're starting to see in consciousness.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		What you've been doing with your experiments is, in a sense, demonstrating that something is going on here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What I stumbled into.
		Now, this has been going on for, I don't know, a couple of years maybe or more.
		A couple years.
		No, a little more than that.
		And what I stumbled into was, to me, a little bit frightening, to be honest with you.
		Yeah, totally intriguing, you know, and I went stumbling into it like a kid, kind of, hardly thinking about it.
		And then I began to think about it.
		When I really began to think about it, it scared me.
		And I backed up from it quite quickly.
		And in fact, I quickly had Dean Raden on the air.
		I'll get into all of this when we come back.
		We've got to take a break, Doctor.
		It's the bottom of the hour from the high desert, the middle of the night.
		We're discussing consciousness and now mass directed consciousness.
		The very thing we've experimented with quite some number of times on this very program.
		Stay right where you are.
unidentified		I'm falling down a spiral.
		That's the best job.
		Double-cross messenger all alone Can't get no connection, can't get through Where are you?
		Well, the man is living on his guilty mind Less far from the borderline When the hitman comes, he knows damn well He has been cheated He says As I'm stepping into the twilight zone This is in that house Feels like getting cold My people can't move I'm not
		moving, stop Where am I to go Now that I've fallen too far As I'm stepping into the twilight zone This is in that house Feels like getting cold My people can't move Even if I can't move At the moon and star Every blow Now that I've lost Far still The ground road When the bullet hits the bone So go
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I really have no idea how this experimental thing started on the program, but I will relate a little bit of it to you in a moment.
unidentified		We'll review it, what we did, and maybe what we should do or won't do or...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, we'll tell you about the experiments in a moment.
unidentified		The End Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let's face it.
		We deal in things on this program that are, you know, at the fringe.
		They're at the edge.
		There's no question about it.
		That's what we do here.
		That's what we're all about.
		And so maybe it was a natural thing for this to fall into the hands of a talk show host doing a program on this kind of material.
		Whatever it was, you know, whether it was remote influencing that we were discussing or whether it was the study at Princeton that came up.
		I think that came up a little later, though.
		And whatever it was that we were doing at the time, I decided foolishly, you know, as a talk show, I thought, hey, I've got millions of people out there.
		What happens if I have them concentrate on getting something massive done?
		Hey, let's try to produce rain.
		And there was a, you know, there was a drought going on in Florida, one down in Texas, I think, one up in the northwest and Canada.
		And I said, let's play with making rain.
		And so every couple of weeks or so, for a while, I had millions of people actually take a devoted moment out and concentrate on making rain in a place where there was a forecast for no rain, where they were suffering.
		And I'll be damned if it didn't rain.
		And I mean within the hour it rained.
		No clouds.
		Clouds formed.
		It rained.
		I swear to you, it happened.
		Some of you were here.
		You know it happened.
		We went to work for some people who had hopeless diagnosis.
		It worked.
		They recovered.
		It did incredible things.
		9, 10, 11 times.
		I forget how many experiments we did.
		But then I began thinking about what I was doing.
		And people began writing to me suggesting we alter the path of hurricanes away from the coast, the noble goal, you know, that kind of thing.
		But then I thought, eventually, doctor, I thought, you know what?
		I don't know what the hell I'm doing.
		And while it might be fun to direct consciousness toward pushing a hurricane off coast, maybe we'd succeed.
		And maybe it would build up to a category five and kill thousands of people when it finally did come ashore.
		I thought, the law of unintended consequences.
		I don't know what I'm doing.
		Maybe that was some little wisdom creeping in.
		I had Dean Raden on the show.
		I asked Dean, Dean, I'm feeling not comfortable with continuing with this until I understand it.
		He agreed.
		Smart move art.
		Don't play with it until you know what you're playing with.
		And of course, then, you know, Doctor, it might be worthwhile for you to explain.
		The people at Princeton who are doing these experiments that I began hearing about and that Dean Raden told me about are not happy about them becoming public at all.
		And the reason, Doctor, they're not happy is because the mere fact of the public knowing they're going on, they're afraid will foul their scientific results.
		I understand that fear.
		But maybe you can explain, you might as well, at least to some extent, what they've done at Princeton.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Well, the stuff at Princeton, I think I kind of gave you a brief synopsis of it, but it's one of the most exciting kinds of research that has been done.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		What they're doing is they're showing that groups of individuals, when they are kind of focusing on one event, can actually change the behavior of machines.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes, but Princeton, when I say Princeton, the experiment in which they have what they call eggs located all over the world, right?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, an egg is what?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		The Global Consciousness Project.
		The eggs are those particular machines.
		They're called, they're actually, let's see, what is it called?
		It's a quantum random generator.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they're computers, right?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, they're computers and they're located all over the world.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Last I read, there was about 55 of them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		55, right?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and they have them all over in different parts of the country.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		And what they're doing is they're just monitoring the randomness of these machines while at the same time they're monitoring the current events that are going on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, in other words, folks, these machines are spitting out, as you suggested earlier, ones and zeros, random ones and zeros, zero, zero, zero, one, one, one, zero, zero, one, zero, one, zero, whatever, random.
		That's what the computer's job is.
		And so they monitor this all around the world, these eggs, and they all report back to Princeton.
		And then they also watch world events like 9-11.
		And of course, what startled me and the world, Doctor, was when they produced the graph showing us 9-11.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And some time before the actual event itself, there was a spike that went right up off the chart.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Actually, before the event.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, before the event.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		It was amazing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It was amazing.
		And I tried to get somebody from the project itself on the air.
		But again, they don't really want to talk about it publicly because it might skew what they're doing, the results of what they're doing.
		But we're on to something really, really, really big here.
		So big that it's caused me pause.
		Now, how do you feel about the fact that I've paused?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Again, I think it's I have kind of mixed feelings about it.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		I'm kind of more pro-doing it than you might be.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I can tell.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		But I do understand your hesitancy, and I think there is, in some ways, I don't think if it were, here's the angle on this that I would take, and it's probably different than other people you might have talked to about before.
		I think in order for you to actually be able to do it, you have to be contacting some source of law of nature that would allow it to happen.
		I don't think you can actually violate too many laws of nature by allowing it to happen.
		However, there's a caveat here.
		I think in order to actually gain the powers of the mind, so to speak, you have to kind of surrender.
		And to surrender means we surrender that part of us that would be destructive to gain communion with the creative aspect of nature.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But how do you know what can and can't be done?
		Since we don't understand enough of the nature of this, or maybe I'm talking to somebody who does understand enough of this.
		But how do we know what can and can't be done?
		How do we know that we can't give somebody a heart attack?
		How do we know that we can't kill someone with it?
		How do we know that we can't cause a catastrophic ecological event?
		Or for all I know, we are causing one.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		I think we're already on that road.
		If your book is to be believed, which I think we should, we're already going to be doing it whether we do something with our consciousness or not.
		But your point is a good one.
		Your point is a very good one.
		I think what we do, what a lot of the meditation groups do, is they try to put the mind in a place where the mind is completely positive.
		And that involves, again, talking about consciousness.
		And in a sense, you know, we'd started talking about consciousness, but one thing I didn't mention was I think that all of the when, in other words, this is a long, long conversation here, because really what I was going to say is the consciousness has several different elements to it.
		We normally think of consciousness.
		We think of consciousness of something.
		Okay, I'm watching something.
		I'm seeing something.
		I'm feeling something.
		But there is something else that's an aspect of consciousness, and that is pure consciousness.
		It's different than even self-reflection.
		And that pure consciousness is what I think is the basis for all the mystical experience, no matter what you're doing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Describe what you mean to me by pure consciousness.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Well, if I look at you or I think about you or I feel something towards you, it's consciousness that has an element involved with it.
unidentified		Yes?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Pure consciousness is consciousness without any element.
		It's just, in other words, in order to have consciousness of something, you have to first have consciousness, the potential of consciousness.
		Now, what's pure consciousness?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You sort of just lost me a little bit.
		Maybe.
		I understand that I could be thinking of you.
		I'm conscious of you.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But then there could be times when I have absolutely no input when I'm lying in bed, my eyes are closed.
		My consciousness still races until I finally achieve sleep, and I think I'm aware of all kinds of things, right?
		Without being aware of anything specific.
		I'm just aware of all kinds of things.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Let me ask you a question.
		When you were having that experience, were you ever had the experience where you might think that you were asleep and then you realized you were awake?
		You kind of got a gap in there?
		It's usually a fairly common experience.
		People, when they think about it, they've had that experience before.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I've had a lot of experiences when in that, let's call it twilight zone between wakefulness and sleep, I've had some remarkable experiences.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		Now we're talking, this is what I'm talking about, where the boundaries start to disappear.
		And we start to have what we call pure consciousness.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've solved problems that were insoluble in that little flash.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		In aha experience.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		There is a field down there where you can get messages, where you can kind of feel connected with everything in the universe.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		And that field is what is termed in, and I think that field, well, you know, I've kind of defined it as pure consciousness, but that field was what I think is the basis for all the mystical experiences.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You have studied in India, I believe, correct?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you lived a life of, you were a monk for a while.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I was.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		I actually even went to an Episcopal Monastery in New York for a little while.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Have you seen people capable of great concentration and meditation do things that are inexplicable with their minds?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		And I have seen it not only with that, but also with some of the research that we've done.
		I have not seen anybody, I have seen people, for instance, that could tell exactly if we had a coin in one hand, you know, they would get it 100%.
		I mean, without any, just similar to what, I mean, even better than 80% what you were getting with your machines, they can do it 100%.
		They usually don't use that power for gain, but they have that power, if you know what I'm saying.
		They would never do it as a side trick, but we were testing it out just for people that would see what the capacities were.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You see, I have a hard time grasping the concept that this power, which I do believe is real, can only be used for good, which I know is or gain.
		Why shouldn't you be able to use it for gain?
		If it's a power, then it's just a power, like any other, ultimately, and its Direction determines whether it's used for good or evil.
		I mean, it's just a power.
		Do you buy into that or do you believe that, oh, it can only be used for good?
		And those people who develop it only never would use it for gain.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		I love the way you use those expressions in your voice.
		You tell a lot.
		Yeah.
		So, listen, you're making brilliant points.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't know if I am.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Here's what I think.
		I think there are ruled laws of nature.
		And I think we can contact these laws of nature.
		And I think that our powers increase the more we surrender to these laws of nature, our powers also increase.
		Ultimately, what you're asking me is, why is there destructive forces and why are there creative forces?
		And how can we kind of differentiate between the two?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think I'm more asking you, this force that we both believe to be real, I think it can probably be directed either way, for good or I mean, good is subjective, really, and or bad, and that's objective, too.
		It might depend on which end of the mind knife you're on.
		I don't know.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think there's rules, laws of nature.
		If you violate the laws of nature, you kind of produce karma, and it comes back, and it kind of, if you use it for bad ends, yes, it's true.
		I mean, I think you can do it theoretically, but I think in order to really capture the laws of nature and to use it, you have to kind of surrender to it, and that surrender means you're going to be doing far more good than bad.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you realize that you sound a whole lot like a witch?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, they believe that certainly in this power.
		They may word it a different way, but they believe in karma.
		And in, for example, if there are negative projections made that it is returned some number of times to you, that kind of thing.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think there's some truth to that.
unidentified		Yes.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I wouldn't put myself in that category.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, maybe we're simply beginning to scientifically underscore witchcraft as the real McCoy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Have you ever thought of it that way?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
		I think that from what I've read about witchcraft, and I've only known one or two people that have been witches, they don't seem that dissimilar to where I'm at.
		That's right.
		That doesn't mean, but I kind of have a scientific side to myself, but I have proven this stuff many, many times.
		But also, I feel that my position is very similar to those in India and China.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I would concede, for example, that people who create enough discipline and do a great deal of meditation and turn inward and do a great deal of inner reflection and trying to attain higher mental states, that as a general rule, these people are going to be in touch with probably what is right, cosmically right, you know, you don't kill your neighbor.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ten Commandments kind of right, universal or natural or nature type of right.
		So, you know, they're going to be better doers than most, but not all.
		In other words, I still think that power goes both ways.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		I would again agree with you, but I think in order to get more of it, you have to surrender to it.
		And then in order to surrender to it, that, I mean, I have dealt with so many people that are not aware of their psychic abilities.
		And this research tells us, now that's one other interesting point we didn't make.
		Guess how many people in those studies we talked about knew which of those photographs were going to be negative or positive?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How many?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		None.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		But their bodies told them, if they could listen to their body, their bodies could tell them exactly what's going on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Their bodies were telling them.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		What were they doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They were measuring the amount of sweat and the breathing and all the rest of it.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		It was an MRI experiment, too.
		Like a laboratory.
		They even verified as far out as this stuff goes, but there's another whole group of them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What did the MRIs find?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		The MRIs found it's even faster.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		They knew four seconds before the thing was going to be.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, on the MRI, they're seeing some part of the brain become beforehand.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Light up, in essence, huh?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		That's the way it looks on an MRI.
		It looks like it lights up a certain part.
		Boy, oh, boy.
		You've got it.
		And your questions are incredible.
		I think I've got some answers for you, but it's going to take me a little while to get to them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's why we have radio.
		We're not bound like television user.
		We have lots of time.
		We can do that.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		You know, let me ask you, let me say another thing.
		You know, some of the research I found that automobile accidents go down.
		I think your show has decreased automobile accidents, too.
		People stay awake listening to your show while they're driving.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, maybe.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Maybe.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		I know one time I was sitting there in a hotel trying to check into my room, and it was like 3 in the morning, and I couldn't get away because it was such a fascinating guest.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		I thought to myself, man, I was cursing you under my breath.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you see, if you're on the road, like all the guys who drive 18-wheelers, they'll tell you, music is okay for a while, but after a while, music almost can become like the dotted white line and has a way of sort of hypnotizing you.
		Where talk radio, for example, is intellectually stimulating and constantly changing.
		And so that does keep you alert at a level that, who the heck knows, it might save your life.
		You might be awake enough to be alert enough to avoid an accident that otherwise would have taken you out.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Think about how much good karma you've produced for yourself, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Maybe.
		Yeah, all of that's possible, I suppose.
		All right.
		Well, I know that there have been a lot of interesting studies that I want to know about.
		For example, they've done studies in war zones, right?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		This is really fascinating.
		I was going to bring up another study, which was related to the other one I mentioned about the...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Actually, we're at the top of the hour, so we'll just hang everybody up here.
		But there have been some very interesting studies done in war zones, I guess, about people knowing what's about to come down.
		So isn't that interesting?
		Just before an event, an MRI now can look at your brain.
		And before the event, before the event occurs, your brain lights up like a 100-watt light bulb.
unidentified		Just like that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Because your brain, even if you consciously are not aware of the fact that it's coming, your brain knows it's coming.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And if you learned how to listen to that signal, well, well.
unidentified		I tried to reach for you, but you have lost your mind.
		Whatever happened to our love.
		I wish I hadn't.
		It just means the lights.
		It's just the pain so good.
		So when you're near me, darling, can't you hear me?
		S.O.S.
		The love you gave me, nothingness can save me.
		S.O.S.
		When you're gone, how can I even try to go on?
		When you're gone, though I try, how can I carry on?
		You seem so far away, though you are standing near.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		That would be me, Dr. Garland Landrith, who's here, and we're talking about mass consciousness.
		Well, what consciousness is in the first place, and then directed mass consciousness.
		And in a moment, we had a caller in the first hour who asked a really good question about the process of evolution.
		I think I'll spring that on the good doctor.
		We'll be right back.
		So here's one.
		Doctor, welcome back.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Another hour in front of us here.
		Here's one for you.
		When we talk about consciousness and mass consciousness, now let's factor in.
		Oh, I don't know.
		Let's take tonight's, last night's now, according to this time zone event.
		The second little machine landed on Mars.
		Second little robot, right?
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there was a time in the world, not very long ago, when we didn't have telephones, we didn't have radio and television, we didn't have the internet, we didn't have all the gazillions of things now that let us all know and join in with the celebration at NASA as this thing lands successfully on Mars.
		We didn't have that.
		We had a world where, you know, a guy on a horse would take news from one place to another, and people didn't know about things simultaneously at exactly the same instant, large world events, like that, for example, when we land something successfully on Mars.
		So if there is this consciousness and this power, then there surely must be a gigantic influence on it by the mass media and by the communications the world has now.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		I think that's a brilliant point.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's an interesting point.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
		I will say one thing that kind of, I think the communication was there before.
		If you look at the history of humanity, usually people were discovering things at the same time.
		For instance, like the telephone.
		Yes.
		I think Bell discovered it.
		But if he hadn't discovered it, somebody else would have actually finished the work and discovered it within a year.
		Things seem to happen around the same time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They certainly do.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		And I think that's an indication of the collective consciousness, which is something I'm not sure anybody's ever brought that idea up on your show or not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, even though I'm with you all the way, people really do tend to make discoveries at about the same time and have insights at about the same literal moment almost.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But again, there's got to be some influence of shared instant information.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		I think I agree with you.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, if the conscience...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, maybe that many people thinking about the Mars Rover collected some software back into a condition that people at JPL could direct it again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		That's a brilliant idea.
unidentified		Wow, I don't know.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		That is great.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		That is a brilliant idea.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Maybe.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		You know, and it's not so far-fetched because people were worried about it.
		I think that the collective consciousness, here's another analogy we can use for this.
		And this is, because these concepts are hard to understand.
		Let's look at, instead of looking at us as being separate from each other, let's look at us as being, like, let's look at this whole universe as being one huge ocean.
		And instead of us being separate, we are separate in a way, but we're joined together like we're like little separate waves, but we're joined together by the ocean.
		And this ocean then is what they call pure consciousness.
		Now, if you look at physics, quantum physics, what we see around us is all separate.
		But when you look at quantum physics, it's not separate.
		We're all joined together.
		You see the analogy?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		And so here in maybe an answer for a lot of your questions, because your questions are brilliant.
		And they are not easy to answer in 25 words or less.
		But the research is out there, and you cannot dispute the research.
		Well, actually, a lot of people are disputing the research, but it's just too big, and Things are happening too much, and too many different research people, everything from the prayer research to the meditation research to the people from Princeton.
		They're all separate, and they're all doing amazing, incredible discoveries.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, what is prayer?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's just directed consciousness.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Beautiful.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's all it is.
		It's directed consciousness.
		And I know that a lot of people would probably get angry at me for that.
		But they're directing it at God, and that's fine.
		It's still directed.
		And that's what it is.
		So it's part of it.
		And the word is almost interchangeable.
		I mean, pray for rain.
		Listen, there was something about war zones.
		What do we know from war about any of this?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Well, the war experiment started as a result of the research that I did on crimes and automobile accidents and things like that.
		And firstly, they wanted to know why this research, why this was even happening.
		So we did another study.
		Now, this one, you'll love this one.
		There was a course going on in Amherst, Massachusetts.
		And the purpose of this study was to see whether people meditating 1,500 miles away could influence the brain waves in the laboratory.
		In other words, the brain.
		Yes.
		And those weak brain waves we talked about earlier.
		and uh...
		so when they're doing a meditation in amherst massachusetts we were measuring the brainwaves of people in iowa and finding Now, here's an interesting point that I need to tell you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Like quantum entanglement.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		Quantum entanglement.
		Things far away.
		Well, you've got that one right.
		You must have heard about that one.
		The quantum entanglement is where, well, maybe I better not go back to that one until I finish up the one.
		Sure, go ahead.
		But so what happened was, now this was a complete deception study.
		We didn't tell the people in Amherst to direct their thoughts to the people in Iowa.
		We didn't tell the people in Iowa there was even a course going on up there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		So because we wanted to find out if, because we were getting these amazing results with 1% of the population meditating, the reduction in crime rates.
		But see, before this all happened...
		I mean, we gave them basically a deception study, and that's ethical, by the way.
		We gave them a deception study, told them we were studying something else, and that way there would be no interference with the thought.
		See, the same thing that the Princeton people were worried about is what we're worried about with our research.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Because you don't want people to positively think that something is going To happen because that influences what's going to happen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, I don't want to blow it for Princeton or for you or for anybody else's experiment, but I can't rule this topic out as something not to talk about.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's too big.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		It is too big, and I think what your show is doing, now see, there's different levels of this whole thing.
		We keep going back and forth, this thing of the collective consciousness.
		But what your show is doing is We've been talking about this.
		We've been putting this stuff out.
		This stuff has been published.
		1981.
		Who heard of it?
		You have done an amazing job of changing the collective conscious, getting people to believe that what they think matters.
		And your show has expanded everybody's consciousness in this world.
		It's had a huge impact.
		And people can't get it.
		I mean, look at how many shows now are out there on talk radio that weren't there a long time ago.
		Instead of sitting here and listening to stuff about politics all the time, we're now able to listen to other things.
		I mean, this this is incredible.
		The consciousness is changing.
		You know, and and you're ha you were, you know, a pioneer in this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I I hope some of it.
		Uh it's been amazing and it is amazing and it's still something that um I I actually have it's a s I guess I have a sense of wonderment about it and awe.
		about it.
		I really do.
		I mean, it's just an amazing thing, and we're kind of on the edge of this and just beginning to learn, just beginning to learn what this is all about.
		But I have a feeling at the end of this road, I've said it on the air a whole bunch of of times, it could turn out to be the most powerful force in the universe.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		It is the universe.
		It is the universe creative force.
		And for instance, now we measured those things in the laboratory.
		We did the deception experiment, so nobody knew about it.
		We got this published in the International Journal of Neuroscience in 1982.
		How many people knew about it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And how was it?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		It was a perfect psychic experiment.
		Nobody knew about it.
		How was it received?
		The people at the journal, the journal editors, and also was peer-reviewed, because in order to get in one of those journals, you have to get reviewed by some conservative psychology, you know, conservative scientists.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Certainly.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		They said it was the best designed EEG study they'd ever seen.
		They couldn't throw it out because we had deceptive.
		I did the research part of it, and I was just one cog and four or five other people that were working with me.
		And I didn't know what data I was looking at.
		I didn't know whether the person was, I was looking at a person that was where he was in the particular study.
		So because you have to do it that way in order to make sure that there's no experimental bias, especially with something like this, because everybody's going to try to tear it apart.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And yet, you see, this could be the answer for so much that science can't explain and tends to laugh at.
		People who claim psychic abilities and foreknowledge and all kinds of things that people do experience and science just laughs away at.
		Well, this may explain a lot of that.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Yes, exactly.
		Beautifully put.
		There is so many mysteries, and yet it's funny that the scientists are oftentimes the ones that are the least open.
		I talk to so many people about psychic stuff, and people don't believe it.
		And they don't even, but they haven't heard of anywhere near the research.
		Like the research on staring.
		Here's another great one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Have you heard about this one?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Go.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		This has been done in 37 different studies.
		This is not a small event.
		Of course, staring itself, people think, most people think that they have the ability to know when somebody's staring at them.
		I think they did some studies just on surveys on this.
		People seem to think that they know when people are staring at them, but no one's ever done any research on it.
		So they started doing a whole bunch of research on it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you feel it, of course, right?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		some of the other research we talked about earlier with the negative photographs.
		But in this one...
		That is the ultimate question.
		And I think we've got some answers.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, really?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I think I do.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		I'm not saying I'm responsible for the answers, but I think I can articulate them tonight.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm listening.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, but the experiment found that, and they did this pretty interestingly too, they had a person in a separate room.
		So they weren't even in the same room.
		So there was a huge wall between them and distance, and then they were looking at a television monitor.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, really?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so there was not any real direct, and I think that might have, if they had been in a real room, it would have been even higher results.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, this is even a greater control, though, so fine.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
		It is beautifully put.
		Because then you don't have any interference with other factors.
		And so what they found was that when they were staring at the television, this would be random.
		So in other words, the television would come on and off, and the person would be staring at the television.
		And then the person who was being stared at would try to guess when he was being stared at.
		And this would be random.
		Sometimes it would be on for like 30 seconds, another time for a minute, and then they'd wait for five minutes and then wait for three minutes.
		You know, who knows what would come up.
		They found a small but very significant effect on, I think it was done in 30 some odd times in about 16 different laboratories.
		Now, the effect was small, but it was still significant.
		It wasn't a huge effect.
		But here's the other thing they did.
		Again, that somebody had a brilliant idea, let's find out what the EEGs tell us.
		Excuse me, the GSRs.
		You know, again, back to the old GSR machines, like the lie detector, again, we talked about earlier.
		Yes.
		And so they hooked them up with their bodies can tell better what's happening rather than just trying to guess.
		And when they hooked them up to GSR machines, again, the results went off the roof.
		Like one chance in 10,000 or something like this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Incredible.
unidentified		Yeah.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it's amazing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Have you ever heard the expression, you walk into a room, you say, my ears are burning, you feel like someone's talking about you.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Yes, exactly.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, it's probably true.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's probably true, yes.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		You know, like what you were saying, about 80% of the time you're hitting your hits when you do your show, I would imagine 80% of the time it's true.
		Yes.
		The results are what we're getting.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So we know these things.
		At least our brain knows these things.
		Now, what do you think it takes, backing up a little bit, for a person to become attuned with when part of his brain is lighting up over something that's about to occur?
		I mean, it's something that could save your life if you could learn to develop it.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So how do you discipline yourself mentally to begin to listen to this?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Brilliant question.
		That is the, what is it, the $84,000, the $64,000 question?
		I think the only way that you can do this, because I think that there's a part of the brain, what I call the, well, actually not what I call that, I mean, what is termed a reptilian part of the brain.
		And this is a protection mechanism that is built into our brains.
		In other words, our brains are wired for protection.
		But unfortunately, the brains, by protecting ourselves, also tend to close off the ability to experience these things that we've been talking about.
		So the trick is to rewire the brain, change the way the brain actually perceives things, which gets us back again to the pure consciousness idea we talked about in the first hour.
		And because if you look about it, you think about it, you know, there's some commonalities with the mystical experience or the experience that we've been talking about, and that's that the person isn't aware.
		To become aware, you have to be open.
		You have to open up.
		And this process of Opening up sometimes is very difficult for people to do.
		So they have to be able to have the mind quiet, and that shuts down those defensive mechanisms that are innate inside of us.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We live in a world today where that's not so easy to do.
		I mean, there's input from everything.
		Cell phones ring, computers go off.
		A gazillion different things occur to us.
		Noise level is very high indeed.
		So how do you get the noise level down to the point where you can see the little spike that you're looking for that means something to you?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		I think the only way to do it is through class prayer or meditation, self-hypnosis, something along those lines.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Coupled with nutrition.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Nutrition.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Yes, there is a whole bunch of new research out there now that we can actually create new brain cells.
		Ten years ago, they thought that you could not create new brain cells.
		Once we're wired with, you know, whatever dysfunctional family life we had when we were kids, that's it.
		We're stuck.
		And then all we got left to do is watch as they slowly die as we get older.
		That's not the case.
		And most of us didn't have the right nutrients when we were kids.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You can grow new brain cells.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		You're right.
		This is incredible new research.
		Just been out in the last couple, three years.
unidentified		Probably spinach.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What is it that you can eat that will grow new brain cells for you?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, lots of vegetables definitely helps because there's lots of phytochemicals in there that are important.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		But really, what brain cells are made of is fat.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, fat.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, then, a lot of people are.
unidentified		They're going on this fatless diet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, then, going on a diet, you would think you'd be killing off the brain cells.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		There are special kinds of fats.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		They're called long-chain fatty acids, omega-6s, 3s, and 9.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So the fattest people are not necessarily the smartest.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		And these things, it's really interesting, they're found in breast milk of moms.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Breast milk.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Yes, but they aren't found in all the, what do you call it, the baby formulas.
		Except I think they just add one now.
		The FDA finally approved one.
		So all of us that didn't get breastfed, and all of us that used those baby formulas, never got all those brain-growing nutrients because they're not usually in our diet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think we all know that breastfeeding confers upon the infant special immunities, or at least that's the old wise tale.
		And I don't think it's such an old wise tale.
		There's truth to it, isn't there?
		It gives immunities and natural things that we're meant to have.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Oh, there's a whole bunch of new research on that, too.
		It's awesome stuff.
		The field of nutrition has grown incredibly.
		And as a matter of fact, you can change everything through nutrition.
		I can show you if I can put a person on a diet and get them out of depression just simply by having them.
		Actually, usually 80% of the time, if they just add more vegetables to their diet, they'll get out of that depression.
		Really?
		Yeah, it's amazing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I find most vegetables depressing.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		That's the problem right there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not all, Mike.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The majority of them.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		No, actually, what I have people do that are like that is I have them go get a vegetable juice cocktail, and I have them put an apple in it so it tastes a little bit like apple juice.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		And they get all their stuff in one drink, and then they can eat whatever they want.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
		Okay, so we don't have to consume lima beans or something truly ugly to grow new brain cells.
		Okay, hold on, we're at the bottom of the hour.
		That's interesting.
		That's the first person that's ever told me you can actually grow new brain cells, and it figures it would be vegetables, doesn't it?
		Or maybe that special drink.
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		I have been only here for what I am.
		It's all clear to me now.
		My heart is on fire.
		My soul is like a wheel.
		Abomba.
		I live in the middle of the night.
		Abomba.
		You be my heartbeat in cold.
		You know that behind, from this one, like the titi say, I'm a little bit, hey, but you know me for a little bit, I'm a kid to be all I can do, but you know I'm a bad, but you know I'm a bad.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		Way out on the edge with Dr. Garland Landriff, but you know what?
		Not only is this out on the edge, I think it's also right on the mark.
		There's something to all this, the power of consciousness, single, collective, and we'll discuss that aspect of it.
		uh...
		both singly and collective kids in incredible uh...
		Lactation for IQ.
		Hmm.
		Alrighty, here we are once again, Doctor.
		A lot of avenues I want to go down.
		I know you did an investigation into crime and automobile accidents.
		What kind of investigation in those areas did you do?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Well, what we did, the first study that I did actually was in 1976, and we looked at the population of the, we took a bunch of cities and we found out the crimes.
		And the crime, of course, is crime rates are reported to the FBI on an annual basis.
		So as soon as the city hit the 1% level of meditators, the crime rates dropped dramatically.
		Now, when I first started doing this, I thought I would have to do some kind of intricate statistical analysis to actually make this work.
		It didn't.
		It was so clear and simple and dramatic, it blew me away.
		So we waited a few more years.
		We looked at these same cities over a 12-year period because we were afraid it was just an artifact.
		Whenever you look at things, it's always better to look at longer term than just one.
		So we eventually got this study published in the Journal of Crime and Justice.
		But it was a 12-year period.
		The control cities and the regular 1% cities acted the same until the 1% hitties got about 1% of the population meditating.
		And then they dropped dramatically in crime.
		And they stayed that way over six years following that event.
		So it wasn't, and meanwhile, the other cities who were controls went up in crime.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's just absolutely bizarre.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		It is bizarre.
		But you know what?
		No one can fault the research because we didn't collect the data.
		The data was collected by the police people.
		Do you know what I'm saying?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		There's no experimental bias in any of these studies.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		And it's really funny because people are trying to criticize it all the time and they fall on their face because there's really no criticism.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And automobile accidents.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		I love that one.
		I expanded it to automobiles and suicides, again, because they're collected on a regular basis in the same way by police departments.
		So it gets the experimental bias out of the equation, so people can't criticize it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're working from stats, okay.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, see, that's just it.
		And the beautiful part about this is these are real-life experiments, not laboratory experiments.
		Now, what's interesting is, in psychology, what has been found is that people, when they're in a lab experiment, don't behave normally.
		So since most psychological experiments are done in labs, there's a whole group of scientists that say that maybe all these psychological studies could be thrown out because people aren't behaving like they normally would in real life.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm sure that's correct.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, but as it relates to automobile accidents, what kind of stats did you go and look for?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Those were ones just with the actual, not deaths, but just everything in general.
		And they were over $500 because we figured that small, little, minor accidents can't really count.
		And also, they usually don't count them in the same category.
		And some cities, for instance, would have a separate category for that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But again, I don't understand exactly what you looked at.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Oh, we looked at the same cities.
		The same group of cities that we looked at with crimes, we extended them to automobile accidents and suicides because it was easier to...
		That way we don't...
		Because, first of all...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're telling me you found fewer automobile accidents in those states?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You found fewer suicides.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		And this is a 12-year period.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		We're not talking about a one-year aberration.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right, right, right.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Six years before and six years after.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		So as a result of this, they started doing some experiments to see if this was, you know, take groups of meditators to certain places and see if we could actually change the crime rates, change the quality of life in the areas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		And now what's amazing is, see, this original experiment was done with people who didn't even know they were participating in an experiment.
		Like we talked about with Dr. Redin.
		He doesn't like people to know what's going on because that way it's more pure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, of course.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		These original studies, they didn't even know that they were in an experiment.
		They didn't even know that they were participating.
		They were just meditating.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		God, the implications of this are just absolutely incredible.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, if it can be proven statistically to work, then I can see governments sponsoring actions of this kind.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's exactly what the transcendental meditation people tried to do.
		They tried to get the government to sponsor it because they said, we can reduce your crime.
		As a matter of fact, they even did a demonstration project in Washington, D.C. Oh?
		This is amazing.
		Because nobody was believing the research.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so who and when?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		They took 6,000 meditators, transcendental meditators, and they brought them into Washington, D.C. in 1993.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		It's right after Clinton got in office.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		And I think they had four different major universities or five different major universities who were involved with the methodology, so it was completely out of the research, it was completely out of the meditators' hands.
		But they predicted they were going to reduce the crime while they were there.
		They were there for six weeks, and they reduced the crime by over 20%.
		And the reason they chose Washington, D.C. is because, first of all, it had a high crime rate.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This should be gigantic news.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you're right.
		But you know what?
		It took, I think they finally got it published in 1999.
		They kept criticizing it.
		They say, well, there was a heat wave when it happened.
		And so therefore the research wasn't, you know, it was an aberration.
		And so what they did is they went back, the researchers went back and looked at every year if they had the same high temperature.
		They had to go back 20 years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But even so, you would think a heat wave, if anything, would contribute to more crime.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		That's what they found.
unidentified		Exactly.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And so they were trying, you know, but we finally got the thing published.
		The people in charge with the Washington, D.C. Police Department, were also involved with this.
		The mayor of Washington, D.C. was Involved with this.
		We notified the press.
		And so it was as good an experiment as you can do.
		It's also done in real life, not in the laboratory.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But I mean, with all of this under our belt, and you've documented quite a bit here, this should add up to a, oh gosh, one of the networks is going to go do a big story on this because there's a lot to tell.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Well, here we go back to the collective consciousness.
		And I think this is where you're coming in because people were not finding it acceptable.
		Look at all the studies done on prayer research.
		And they've been criticizing that.
		Only in the last two or three years have they really, really started to accept it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Started to turn around and recognize the validity of it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, how can you ignore the kind of numbers that they've produced?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		And that's just it.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Well, they were criticizing the studies.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, of course, about all the studies, and they're blind, too.
		In other words, they would pray for one person with a critical illness and not pray for someone else, but do this again and again and again.
		And with incredible high percentages, the people who were prayed for got well or lived at an incredibly higher rate.
		Now, all of this has deep and important meaning.
unidentified		I mean, taken together, huge, huge.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		And so where is the media?
		Now, scientists have begun to embrace this information to some degree, but it really should be more in front of the public right now so that there's more done with it.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		I think the thing that I want, the reason I wanted to come on your show was to really, really hit people with some of these research studies and show them how powerful these research studies are.
		Because I really want people to know that by thinking that we can make a difference in this world, I think if this world has gotten so destructive, and I think you pointed it out in your book really eloquently, but in terms of nature.
		But I think we have a severe crisis coming on to our own self.
		We're creating with all this negativity.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I have certainly considered, I mean, for example, I've had a string of shows, Doctor, where I've had Hobi Elders on.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, beautiful.
		I love that show.
		I was transfixed by that.
		I happened to hear that when I was there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You really have been a listener.
		All right.
		So they have predicted some pretty dire things.
		And I've had silent moments of reflection when I've wondered if putting this sort of thing in the mass conscious, in the minds of millions of people, that there's dire prophecy, that something terrible could happen to the earth.
		What that does, when you put that out there, is that like lighting a fuse?
unidentified		Beautiful.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Or the other option is, can we do something about it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Or can you, yeah, can you prevent...
		And I believe that's fair.
		In other words, as we hear about quantum science, I've had quite a few theoretical physicists on.
		They suggest that ultimately a quantum computer, for example, might extract information from adjacent dimensions.
		It might look across time, as we're talking about the mind doing, and it might actually extract information like a giant Google of the cosmos or something and be able to give you answers that you would not otherwise get when we get to quantum computers.
		And of course, then we'll have other issues like artificial intelligence and machine consciousness.
		That's one to work on.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Talk about.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Have you considered that?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think that would be another whole topic.
		But you know, I think there's some truth to it.
		I think consciousness is everywhere.
		I think the universe is consciousness.
		And like I was saying with this analogy of the ocean, we're just like little waves on the ocean.
		But I think the same way it goes with quantum field theory.
		The ocean in this sense is the quantum field.
		And then what we see is those individual waves.
		We don't see the ocean, but there is a interaction between the mind and also with Okay, take the Washington experiment that you talked about.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There there were thousands involved in the experiment, correct?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So that would clearly indicate that somebody believes that the power of many minds with directed intent would be more powerful than a single mind, yes?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		That's exactly the whole thought.
		Also, whether the mind is quiet or not, because the more quiet the mind is, the more powerful the mind is.
		If there's anxiety in the mind, it doesn't have the same kind of effect than if the mind is very quiet.
		And that's why we think that we're getting such huge effects with small numbers of meditators.
		For instance, in one of Dean Radden's studies, he actually looked at a group of meditators.
		He has these machines running all the time.
		So he went back and we were saying, okay, we just had a course.
		It was after September 11th, I believe.
		Hold a second.
		What was it after?
		September 11th?
		It was after one of those things.
		But it was long enough afterwards the machines had gotten back to randomness again.
		I think it was after September 11th.
		They had a course to kind of quiet the consciousness of the United States.
		The theory is, that's what the TM group says, is that when you have lots of negative thoughts, it has an influence on the destructive element of creation.
		There's two elements to creation, there's the destructive and the creative.
		When there's an imbalance, you meditate.
		You don't even have to direct your thoughts.
		All you have to do is meditate, sit in that quietness.
		It stimulates the creative element of, helps create more balance between the two.
		That's the theory.
		That's how they talk about it.
		So what they were doing is they were just having a course of about 1,600 people.
		Well, they got similar results with that 1,600 people meditating in one spot as they did when 1 billion people were watching the O.J. Simpson trial on the machines.
		So, in other words, when they have a billion people watching a trial, you've got these machines going crazy, producing non-random events.
		And so they got these similar kinds of experience.
		So I'm saying when you can reduce the make the mind quieter, you can not only pick up on those cues that we were talking about before in many of those research studies, but also we have an effect on the environment.
		The environment becomes more conducive to reducing tensions.
		And the theory is that tensions create war.
		And war also creates environmental problems.
		In other words, if they create more tension in the world, it creates more environmental imbalances.
		And that's basically what the Hopis were saying, too, when they were talking about it.
		But they used a little bit different language.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They did.
		But their message ultimately was pretty negative.
		They were suggesting that it's already too late.
		The events unfolding are underway.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		I would disagree with that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you might, but that's what they said.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no.
		And I love what they had to say, but I would disagree that it's inevitable.
		Because I think that if the mind is quantum, it means it can do anything it wants to do at any time, time and space have real no meaning.
		So we can kind of circumvent this whole problem if we can somehow get enough people doing the same thing at the same time in support of the laws of nature.
		That's the caveat there.
		That's the tricky part.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are we so sure we understand the laws of nature?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Again, you can sit there and say.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Right, right, right.
		No, that's a good question.
		That's a very good question, and I understand what you're saying.
		I think, again, it comes down to the experience of pure consciousness.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, it may, for example, be a terrible thing, certainly from our perspective, when a gigantic hurricane goes slamming into Florida or Louisiana and kills hundreds or thousands of people.
		From our point of view, that's a horrible thing.
		But from nature's point of view, it may well be that that hurricane is like something that cools our atmosphere.
		It may be nature's way of cooling our atmosphere and equalizing things and something that actually has to happen in the larger scheme.
		But from our perspective, it's not so cool when a bunch of people drown.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		It's true.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So that's what I meant when I said, do we really understand the laws of nature?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Or if we begin to manipulate these forces, might we, I mean, wouldn't it be the natural human thing to use this power to our advantage and put the hurricanes off course and the tornadoes and things that we would consider damaging to our own?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I mean, I think you're making brilliant points, brilliant philosophical questions that really I think that we're going to be able to do that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, but I'm trying to do it in support, you see, of saying that we don't properly understand this force sufficiently to be just experimenting with it.
		I certainly like what you have done in support of the whole process in looking at these stats.
		That makes sense to me.
		And it just sort of underlines all this as being absolutely real.
		But when we get down to the actual use part of it, you say in support of the laws of nature, I just don't know that we properly can interpret them.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
		And the only way they can be with a human consciousness, I don't think we can actually understand fully the laws of nature.
		I don't.
		But what I do think we can do is we can, through consciousness, stimulate the laws of nature through pure consciousness.
		And therein lies the difference.
		When these meditators are sent to these places, they aren't meditating on the effects.
		They're meditating on pure consciousness.
		The effects happen afterwards.
		This is what I was trying to talk about before with the Dean Radden's experience.
		Some of these experiments were done where people were focusing on machines.
		The others were done when they're focused on something else, but they change the machines.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, has it occurred to you that this is now public enough and obviously has been researched enough with such startling results that the government, and specifically, for example, the Pentagon and those who do war and that sort of thing, that this would have gotten, perhaps has gotten their attention.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		You know, I think the people in it's so hard for us to even get conservative scientists to agree to this stuff, even though the research is staring them in the face.
		We have now, between the prayer studies, the Princeton group studies, the meditation studies, we have now, with just the group consciousness studies alone, not the individual stuff that we were talking about before, we have probably close to, my guess is 140 or 150 good studies showing, and plus the stuff you did, there's another 10 or 15 of them.
		Of course, they weren't, you know, nobody published them or there wasn't any documentation, but they were good studies.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you think the Defense Department, for example, would do with something like this?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		They don't believe it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They don't believe it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You think they don't believe it?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't.
		I have talked to lots of scientists and I've talked to people in the military.
		They don't believe it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They don't believe it.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		They absolutely do not believe it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But remember remote viewing.
		They seem to believe that.
		$20 million, 20 years, the CIA.
		Hold on, Doctor.
		We'll be right back.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's about as interesting as it gets.
		This is Dr. Garland Landrick tonight.
		We're talking about mass consciousness, projection of mass consciousness.
		And I guess, in a way, simplified just right down to the power of the mind, but with stats to back up what we're saying.
unidentified		Stay right there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, all right.
		Dr. Landreth, welcome back.
		You've got a website, by the way, don't you?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, what's on it?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Well, I have a bunch of pages on there.
		It's called Universe Lies Within.
		And I have things on there that will help you tune in and quiet your mind so you can pick up on become more intuitive.
		I also do some life coaching kinds of things where I teach people how to get over some blocks.
		It's a little bit different than psychology.
		I tend to like to look at things as being life coach, which is a more positive outlook, instead of eating, you know, a life coach as somebody that helps the person get over to something, a much better place, who's doing fairly good now, but they want to go further.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How do you make your living as a psychologist?
		I mean, generally, you're dying.
		You don't have books here.
		You're not selling books.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		I have some meditation tapes that I think would be really good for your audience.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So that's how you make your living.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and then I do consulting, you know, with clipped clients.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		And I do some work with the Special Olympics as well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you do?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I love it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Three times, this be the third time.
		I think I've asked you now about some experiments that were done in War Zones, and you changed the subject each time.
		What's the deal there?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Well, I wanted to get a background before I went into those because they're so fascinating, but because we had gotten so little press coverage and nobody seemed to realize what's going on with the other studies, we did some demonstrations in actual war zones in the 1980s, and they're quite dramatic.
		There's one study, they were done in Lebanon, and this was during those years in the 80s when Lebanon was regularly being shelled.
		And what they did is they took a series of, they took about four or five cities, they randomly chose one.
		And these were cities that had, on the average, 1,000 shells per year hitting the town over the past three years.
		We took one city.
		We taught about 1% of them to meditate.
		And then what happened was the next year, no shells hit that city.
		But meanwhile, they continued shelling the other four cities, which are about a couple miles away.
		They continued shelling them for the next year for about 1,000 shells that same way they had.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		See, I had no idea any of this was going on.
		Well, that's not true.
		I knew some research was going on, but not at the levels that you've quoted tonight.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		It's amazing to me that people don't understand it.
		I haven't heard about it because they have been attempting to get this knowledge out there because, and that's why they have been doing demonstration projects.
		They did another demonstration project in Israel.
		This blows my mind, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Who, by the way, is they?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Oh, the Transcendental Meditation Group.
		Okay.
		They are the ones spreading most of the meditation research.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And what did they do in Israel?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Well, they sent in about 400 or 500 meditators, similar to the Washington, D.C. study.
		The reason I brought the other studies up first is because we did similar kinds of things.
		And I wanted to explain the research protocol why the research was so powerful.
		In other words, instead of just we were looking at raw data.
		And before I went to these more extremes, I think these are the most interesting studies we've done.
		And they sent them in.
		And here they again did the study with independent researchers from several universities in Israel and also in the United States who were consultants on the research methodology.
		And what they did there, they looked at all kinds of things from not only crime rates, automobile accidents, fires, and stock market in Israel, but they also looked at things like war deaths and war intensity.
		War deaths is easy to measure.
		War intensity is, I guess they did it by the amount of battles that were being fought during those three months in 1983.
		And so they found that they looked at not only Israel, but also Lebanon and Jerusalem as well.
		And of course, they found better quality of life with all the variables I mentioned, including crimes, automobile accidents, fires, and Stock market activity while they were there, and they also found less deaths and decreased war tensions.
		This is quite profound research.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's very profound.
		And at a national level, I asked you earlier what applications you thought the Defense Department might see here, and you said, well, they don't believe it.
		Well, at some point, they're going to, or somebody big is going to.
		And this is suddenly going to be gigantic news.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, the famous director, was it David Lynch?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Who?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Who is the famous, let's see, director for.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Who did what?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		He is sponsoring David Lynch, the famous movie director.
		He has organized a group now to get 8,000 meditators in one spot, which is hopefully enough to actually change the consciousness of the world.
		The thinking is if we can get enough of these people doing the same thing at the same time, we can maybe change the war levels in a permanent way.
		So he has already, I think they've collected already $100 million.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot of people who, if they understood this, for example, in the way you just now explained it, to some ears, it might sound like mind control.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I understand completely what you're saying.
		Do you?
		Let me put this another way.
		I'm going to explain this.
		I've been thinking about this in the last break, and I want to put it another way.
		What you're talking about, I agree with your position.
		We're not really butting heads on this issue.
		What we're trying to do is understand the different elements that go into this thing.
		If, you know, we've kind of touched on all these issues now in the last couple hours.
		If pure consciousness, which is that fundamental mystical experience that all different religions seem to have, to some degree, because I can point out St. Augustine quotes and he talks about it and all these kind of different people in the Christian religion too.
		If this is the fundamental substratum and if it is equivalent to the vacuum state or the quantum field level in physics, then if we can somehow stimulate it, then we can stimulate all the laws of nature.
		Now, we have done, we have shown in numerous experiments that through consciousness alone we can stimulate things.
		We can change the behavior of machines.
		We can change prayers and done incredible things, good things for people.
		But what if we put attention on the quantum field level of consciousness, which would be pure consciousness?
		It's the same way.
		Maybe it's stimulating the laws of nature so that the laws of nature respond more.
		It's not the same as controlling the laws of nature.
		It's stimulating them.
		And when the meditators go in, they do not think about reducing crimes.
		They simply meditate.
		And they stimulate what is supposed to be the laws of nature.
		The theory is there's a destructive element and then there's a creative element.
		And sometimes the destructive element overshadows the creative element.
		And I think that's what's happening today.
		Your book, the beautiful book you wrote on the environment, displays it perfectly.
		And when that happens, nature responds.
		Then when you have the destructive element overshadowing the creative element, nature takes issue with it and tries to restore the balance.
		And that's why you get all these earthquakes and hurricanes that cause a lot of destruction and all that.
		That's the theory.
		And so in essence, we're using consciousness not to change people's individuality, not to have mind control.
		What we're doing is stimulating the laws of nature of pure consciousness and letting, changing the actual vibrations in the area, the collective consciousness of the area.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm just saying that everybody might not look at it that way.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Yes, that's true.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		That's a good point.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, now I would like to bring some callers on and see what they have to contribute.
		And so let's do that.
		I try to get that done in the last hour here.
		First time caller line, you're on the air with Dr. Garland Landrith and Art Bell.
		Hi.
unidentified		Well, hi, and thanks to both of you for doing the show.
		Sure.
		Cool.
		I have two brief questions, and if we have time, a brief comment.
		What do you think, Dr. Landrith, of Deeprak Chopra's idea that basically we already are creating, we already are using these sorts of, I guess you could call them powers,
		but in effect putting this sort of thing out thousands of times per second into the quantum field, but in the same way that motion pictures appear to be moving, but they're actually 60 still frames a second, that we're all putting these thoughts and configuring this stuff thousands of times per second, and so it is seamless and apparently invisible.
		And then my second question Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Doctor?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's actually probably really close to what quantum physicists say about normal situations in the real world.
		They would say that what we see outside doesn't really exist, but rather it's a fluctuation of the vacuum state.
		In other words, these are energy potentials constantly coming into existence and flickering back out and then coming back into existence.
		So that's very similar to what quantum field theorists in quantum physics would say.
		Of course, it gets really abstract, what I'm talking about right now.
unidentified		Should I ask the second one now?
unidentified		Okay.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		I think it's a brilliant thought.
unidentified		Thank you.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		And that's why I think that we can change what's going to happen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've got that.
		All right.
		Your second question.
unidentified		Second question sort of relates, and it's this idea from a book called Conversations with God written by Neil Donald Walsh.
		It was actually on this show a few years back.
		Great.
		He basically points out that creation is a, or well, It's pointed out in the book that creation is a thought, word, and deed process.
		And so while I understand that meditating is one way to do it, I'm wondering what you think of the idea of constantly focused thoughts, words, and deeds in alignment with a particular creation, not only drawing that creation into form, but also helping people tune to opportunities to create on the physical level as well.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		It sounds really good.
		I'm not sure I completely understand it, but I like the idea of helping people.
		I think that helps create incredible good things in the universe.
		Is that more or less what he's talking about there, or is he talking about something else?
unidentified		Well, no, it's basically any creation, any sort of manifestation that happens.
		You basically do your thoughts, your words, and your deeds all in alignment with the same thing.
		In other words, they match.
		You think these thoughts about things that you're putting out there, you match your words to them, and then eventually you get to the point where you can Oh, I see.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		You're kind of like, okay, visualization type thing.
unidentified		Well, yeah, but it goes beyond that.
unidentified		It works on three different levels.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Right, no, they may completely.
		Yes, no, that's brilliant.
		That's really, yeah.
		I do some of that with my clients.
		And I think it's wonderful.
		Yes, I remember, okay, now I understand completely what you're saying.
		I think that's the only way to do it.
		You have to do it in a holistic way, in a total, in a way where it incorporates more than just thought.
		The idea of positive thinking is good, but it's only one element.
		And I think you're absolutely correct.
		That's a brilliant point.
unidentified		And then it also works on the quantum level, too, back to the first question, that all these things are putting these sort of quantum waves out, and that's how they come into form.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		That's brilliant.
		That's exactly what quantum physicist would say.
		And that's what I would concur completely what's going on with the mind.
		We are putting out, in a sense, we are creating, in a very real sense, whether we like it or not.
		And I think this is another answer to the question, Art, because we're always creating anyway.
		We're already putting these thoughts out.
		In a sense, we're already doing what you were doing on the show, but we're doing it in a negative way.
		You see what I'm saying?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		But it seems to me that the number of people who are getting together even by the thousands and reducing crime rates or causing fewer automobile accidents or whatever other good they appear to be accomplishing are rather outnumbered by the number of people right now who are thinking that the environment is degrading at a remarkably fast clip.
		Oceans are melting.
		Ice is melting and becoming oceans in the north part of the world.
		The south part of the world is melting and calving.
		And the weather is changing rapidly.
		And a lot of people believe this.
		More and more people believe this.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		I think thanks to you and your show.
		I really do.
		I think you have changed to help change the collective consciousness.
		I really do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, you and I, I think, though, may have different ideas about what's going on as a result of it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, Wildcard Line, you're on the air with Dr. Garland Landrith.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Oh, yes.
		How are you doing, Art?
		You have a wonderful show.
		I just wanted to tell you that.
		And I have a question for the doctor.
		Yes.
		Okay.
		This happened in 1969 in Vietnam.
		It was a war zone.
		And I'm going to say this real quick, and I'll just get off the line and listen to the doctor's opinion.
		I was working for three nights without sleep.
		So when I finally fell asleep, I was dead to the world.
		So my grandmother woke me up with a real urgency.
		She woke me up and she said, wake up, wake up.
		And I was dead asleep.
		I thought I was at home.
		I thought I was back at home.
		And I woke up and I saw my grandmother's face and I saw her body like a veil.
		And I yelled.
		And I screamed because I saw her there.
		And then she was still alive.
		So I was just a few seconds after that, we had a rocket attack.
		And she saved me.
		She saved my life.
		But all these years I've been wondering what happened.
		I never understood what it was.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, all right.
		Caller, hold on a sec.
		In a war zone, that's interesting.
		Now, Doctor, is it possible this consciousness that we've been discussing tonight?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Perhaps now we look over at religion for a second, and we say, is it logical scientifically that this consciousness in some way survives the physical death of the body?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		I think it's indisputable.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Indisputable?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		I think, yes, I do.
		I think because of all this exploration We have a lot of good research that the consciousness can be outside of the body.
		And we think we didn't touch on a lot of that stuff, but some of the stuff that we've been talking about relates.
		In other words, consciousness acts on a quantum field level.
		If it is on a quantum field level, there is no time-space boundaries to it.
		And that's why, you know, this analogy keeps coming back.
		We have to, if it does operate on this level, there is no time-space boundaries.
		It's eternal.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's eternal.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Like the soul is said to be.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		It's one and the same, I think.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, used to the Rockies.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're on the air with Dr. Langley.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		By the way, that was a very incredible experience, and I think it was, again, an example of consciousness in a quantum field where there's no separation in time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it may well be that that part of the mind that lit up like a bulb suddenly made its transmission in the form of grandma.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Call her.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello there.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		That's a good point.
unidentified		So this is Vinny from Avon Lake, Ohio.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		There's a small group of TMers in Avon Lake.
		They bought a hotel here.
		Oh.
		But my question is how to pay for all this?
		Because, frankly, I used to go to Fairfield, Iowa, at least during vacation time.
		But when I started running out of money, I'm not even doing that anymore.
		And I used to meditate in the Golden Dome.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you're asking how to pay for all what?
unidentified		All the large group.
unidentified		Um it's it's quite a problem and the TM movement isn't what it used to be financially.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I see what you're saying.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So motivating and organizing and doing all of that, Doctor, he's saying how do you pay for it?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		I think it costs, according to what David Lynch is trying to do, it's really fascinating.
		He's trying to get enough people meditating in one spot.
		If they calculated it out, for the price of one B1 bomber, we could do it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		People always compare things to a B1.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		A B1 bomber just isn't a good thing.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		We could have as many people meditating as we want to in one spot.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's like the gold standard.
		All right, hold it right there.
		Yeah, I'm sure that for a Gia B1, you could get a lot of meditators, one way or the other.
		From the high desert in the middle of the night, this is Coast to Coast AM.
		I'm Mark Bell.
unidentified		Coast AM
		Be it sight, sand, smell, or touch, there's something inside that we need so much.
		The sight of a touch or the scent of a sand, or the strength of an oak leaves deep in the ground.
		The wonder of flowers to be covered and then to burst up from tarmac to the sun again.
		Or to fly to the sun without burning a wing, to lie in a meadow and hear the grass sing, and all these things in our memories, and they use them to help us to fight.
		*Fight, my passion song, take this place, on this trip, just for me.
		*Fight, take a free walk, take my place, I'm gonna sing, it's for free.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		I wonder if the laws of nature would allow us to collectively, millions of us, to burst a blood vessel in the temple of Osama bin Laden.
		I wonder if the laws of nature would allow that.
		I wonder.
unidentified		I wonder.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you think, Doctor?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Could we concentrate on bursting a blood vessel in Osama bin Laden's brain?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Well, that would probably work, but there's, I think, a far more positive way to do it, and that's to, again, meditate and stimulate those laws of nature and reduce the tensions and increase the creativity of people.
		Right now, I think we're in a world crisis.
		I mean, I think you've articulated it probably better than anybody I know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there's not much question about that.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		And I think you're right.
		I think people are starting to become aware of it, but there seems to be inertia.
		Have you noticed that?
		I mean, in spite of all the fact that all these people are, you know, even agree with it, there seems to be huge inertia for doing something about it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There is.
		There is.
		But it's an accelerating, continuing process that hasn't stopped yet.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		No, no, and I agree.
		I think this is a continuum in the collective consciousness.
		The collective consciousness changes as we grow as a people.
		I mean, if you think about it, when the war is past, nobody cared about collateral damage.
		Now it's a big deal.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's all true.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		And the collective consciousness is a change.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm not sure it's a gigantic move away from the concept of war.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is at least concerned about the innocence a little bit, I guess.
		Anyway, listen, we've got lots of people who want to talk to you.
		Wildcard line, you're on here with Dr. Landruth.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello?
unidentified		Is that me?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's you.
unidentified		Oh.
unidentified		Hi, how you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, sir.
unidentified		A lot of I was commenting about the over the past couple weeks I've listened to your show at night.
unidentified		I listened to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		And I am a student of science of mine, and I did at the Agri Casey Foundation.
		And Agri Casey was probably the world's foremost psychic who basically touched on the laws of the universe.
		And right now there's Esther Hick, Abraham's Peak Hick, I don't know if you've heard of those, where she talked about the law of allowing, the law of attracting.
		She basically touches on, which Eric Casey touched on in one of his readings that he did.
		Right, and your point Is well, I was asking, he was talking about quantum physics as consciousness is like a science.
		Wouldn't it be more like metaphysical?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, it seems to me that what Dr. Landreth has brought us is scientific evidence that appears to be proving the metaphysical in a scientific way.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		I think that's probably as good as I could have said, if not better.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that is what you're doing.
		You have quoted a number of studies here that are almost irrefutable evidence that what we're talking about is real.
		I'm just not sure where we go with it from here.
		You seem more clear-headed about that than I am.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		I think healthy skepticism is good.
		I love your show because you are part scientists.
		And I think a healthy skepticism is good.
		And healthy to me means being open.
		You know, it gets really frustrating when people are skeptical but not even open.
		I don't mind skepticism.
		I think it's a good thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		But I think when people aren't open, you're no longer having a dialogue.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's correct.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Dr. Landruth.
		Hello.
unidentified		Yeah, hello.
		My name is E.T. I'm calling from Ronick, Virginia.
		We listen to you on WFLR.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		One of the things I wanted to ask you was talking about listening to this thing.
unidentified		How do you listen to it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How do you listen to the message that's in there in your own mind, right?
unidentified		Yes.
		And for years I've studied martial arts, either karate or kung fu or something like that.
		Yes.
		I tell this story about this gentleman who was walking behind me at a bar.
		He was four people behind me, didn't know him, never met him.
		He went to sucker punch me, and I just got the sense to duck, and of course he missed.
		He went over top of me.
		But when I caught glasses, you know, I'd be walking, and somebody would, I'd be walking by a table or something, and somebody would knock over a glass, and I would reach down and grab it.
		But what we did is we trained ourselves to not only listen, but to feel.
		And by way of feeling is through the hairs on your arms and things like that.
		It's almost like somebody's kind of touching you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so you're saying that the process of the mental discipline of martial arts taught you to do exactly what we're talking about.
unidentified		Just by trying to feel and listen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Beautiful.
unidentified		Because it's a bunch of things involved.
		It's not just one.
		It's not something that you can really hear, but it's something.
		The best way I can explain it is it's more of a feeling than a hearing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's definitely there.
		There's sure no question about that.
		Whatever it is, it's real and it's there, and some take advantage of it and some don't.
		I personally think this way, doctor, that those who are very successful, those who make a lot of money or become, I don't know, very popular or very well known in their field, whatever their field happens to be, are people who have become attuned to this and as a result make quick, instant, correct, frequently more than not decisions.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I think you're absolutely correct.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And it's just that intuitive whatever.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		West to the Rockies, you're on the air with Dr. Garland Landrut.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		You two were talking the last hour about something that's close to what I've had a theory about for a long time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And that would be?
unidentified		Our brains are electrical, and computers are that way.
		And this is like a greater electrical field somehow.
		And I sort of believe that if it's used properly, it could be used for like a conscious evolution.
		Or if we are totally unaware of it, it could lead to unconscious de-evolution.
		Devolutionary.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		I was wondering if you could comment on that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you get all that, Doctor?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		I couldn't hear the question.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		Oh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, gee.
		Well, she was saying the power could be used for conscious evolution or subconscious de-evolution.
		Unconscious.
		Okay, sure.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and I think that that's, again, getting back to the issue of pure consciousness.
		If we experience that, we're more in accord with the laws of nature, because that's equivalent to the vacuum or the, you know, the quantum field in all of physics.
		It stimulates the laws of nature.
		We can never know all the laws of nature.
		It's impossible.
		We're only human beings.
		But we can stimulate them and make them more part of us.
		It doesn't mean that we'll be the same as everyone else.
		It means that those specific laws of nature that are in tuned with us will become more dominant.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, but you see, I get the same nervous tick when I listen to you say that as I do when I listen to the people up at the Heart Project say, we don't have enough power to really do anything to the ionosphere, but we can stimulate it.
		The ionosphere, that is.
		And that gives me a kind of a nervous tick because sometimes you don't know exactly what's going to happen when you tickle the tail of the tiger.
		International line, you're on the air with Dr. Garland Landreth.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, turn your radio off for me, please.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's number one.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, hello.
unidentified		I'd like very much to have a word, if I may.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You may if you'll turn your radio off.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I'm going to hang up if you don't.
unidentified		Oh, goodness.
unidentified		Hey, I hear you, and I'm trying to get this radio off.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We'll wait for you.
unidentified		Okay.
		This is a lady down in Louisiana.
		Many, many years ago, I had an experience, a religious experience, and I try not to go into that because a lot of people object to it.
		However, I would like for you, if you will, for those of us who are more illiterate in these, define transcendent meditation for me, if you will.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Define transcendental meditation is what she was saying.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		It's the process of experiencing the experience of pure consciousness without thought, feeling, or object of perception.
		And in other words, we transcend the consciousness of a thought.
		In other words, if we have the potential to have consciousness of something, we certainly have the potential of experiencing pure consciousness.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, you completely eliminate your surrounding influences and quiet yourself and go entirely within your own mind.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		The theory is that this stimulates the laws of nature that are particular to you and also particular to the surrounding environment in a beneficial way.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		And you can't predict what those, in a sense, what those stimulation will be, only that will reduce the tension in the environment and help make other people make better decisions.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You remember earlier in the program when I half-jokingly, only half, said it sounds like witchcraft, right?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, have you ever considered that those who do practice the craft do have knowledge of these laws, perhaps to some greater degree than we do, and their manipulation?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		I wouldn't be able to say much about it because I don't know a lot about it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You might want to look into it.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I would, you know, again, I think it's entirely possible.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		I think they revere the environment, and from what I have, you know, from the little contact I've had with them, and their reverberance of the environment tells me that they appreciate the laws of nature.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it might further erode your research from a credibility point of view to do so, but I'm telling you that eventually you're going to want to look at that.
		First time caller line, you're on the air with Dr. Landreth.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello.
		I wanted to ask Art Bell and Dr. Landreth to explain the difference between meditating with a blank mind as opposed to meditating by concentrating on a certain problem.
		I think there's a big difference between the two.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well, here, let me give this example.
		There's a form of Buddhism called Nishiren Shoshu, Soka Gakkai, in which you chant Namyo Horngekyo, Namyo Horingkyo, Namyo Horingkyo, and you try to attain things in this lifetime.
		Millions of Japanese believe in this, and others around the world, for that matter.
		They believe that it is reasonable to go into a state of meditation, which chanting is, sort of, and try and obtain a material thing, a raise or a promotion at work or a new refrigerator or whatever you happen to need, going for material things.
unidentified		What about that, Doctor?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I mean, I think you explained it pretty well.
		There are differences between different types of meditations.
		When I talk about pure consciousness, there's no real desire when you're in that state.
		You're in the state just enjoying all of creation, so to speak.
		To create it, you know, then you come out of it, you kind of have desires and all these different thoughts and everything else that comes up.
		So in the state, it's desire-free while you're there.
		But you can use that, like you were saying, to kind of create things as well by visualizing things.
		But you do it in a way by letting it go.
		The secret to having a more powerful mind is to have the thought and to let go of the thought.
		And most people hold on to the thought, and that's what makes it hard to manifest the thought.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air with Dr. Garland Landrith.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
unidentified		This is Steve Klein from Avondale, Arizona.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Steve.
unidentified		I'm actually an SGI member out here, and I thought it was kind of odd that you just brought that up because that was one of the things I've been trying to call in and ask about that, you know, one of the things we meditate is the oneness of self and the environment and how that relates to what he was talking about, the consciousness.
		And, you know, you have all these positive thinking people, you know, saying that, you know, if you think negative, negative things are going to happen.
		If you think positive, positive things are going to happen.
		And why can't we apply this to the war that's going on?
		And I'm sure there's more people praying for the war to end than there are the fanaticism of the people that are trying to cause it.
		So why can't we change those negative things into a positive thing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Doctor?
unidentified		On a mass scan.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Could you repeat it a little bit better?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I couldn't quite understand it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He was basically saying we have the war going on and terrorism, and I'm paraphrasing here, but why can we not get some sort of mass meditation that would change something at that level, moderate and stop a war, stop people from fighting with each other and wanting to kill each other and whatever all?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		i think we can i think the secret again comes to The mind has more power than more quiet it is.
		And I think we could do a lot more if we can learn how to let go a little bit.
		And it is possible.
		Of course, the other possibility is you could try to take a negative thought while you're in that position.
		I guess you were talking about that with Bin Laden.
		But I think that you can end up with a lot of bad karma whenever you put stuff like that.
		But in a way, I guess Bin Laden is such an amazing person.
		I mean, amazingly bad.
		Maybe it isn't bad.
		Who knows?
		I don't know.
		There's too many things going on there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Witchcraft, Doctor, look into witchcraft.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Dr. Garland Landruth.
		Hello.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		First of all, I'd like to say, Mr. Bell, it is so wonderful to hear you back on the air again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much.
unidentified		It's fabulous to hear you back.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, thank you.
unidentified		And you sound better than ever.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		I had a question for the doctor.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		First of all, one of your definitions that you gave before, I found to be an oxymoron.
		Which one?
		Not that I don't think that you're trying to do something really wonderful.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, which one, sir?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Which definition?
unidentified		When he was giving a definition of what transcendental meditation is, it's commonly known by all of the viewers on your show, most of them, I think, that thought manifests physical reality, collectively and individually.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes?
unidentified		And that free will, the aspect of free will, is you manifest what you believe in as an individual.
		Nothing can stop you from doing that.
		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So an oxygen one.
unidentified		I wanted to ask the doctor.
		I have a question.
		Doctor, does the Earth turn clockwise or counterclockwise?
		You mean does the Earth turn clockwise or counterclockwise?
		I mean exactly what the question is.
		Do you know what direction you're turning in on the planet Earth, on the orb of the Earth?
		Because the Earth is manifested through the collective consciousness of the individuals.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		Is the Earth turning clockwise or counterclockwise?
		Do you know or are you going to guess?
		Well, it's not a matter of relativity either.
		It's whether you're at the top of the pole or the bottom of the pool.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		I can't really remember.
unidentified		I think I'm not trying to attack you.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		It turns clockwise if I remember.
unidentified		I'm not trying to attack you.
		I just want to know.
		Do you know what direction you are that you're existing on?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He jumped on, I believe he, sir, hold it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He jumped on clockwise, I think.
unidentified		He said clockwise?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		No, it's counterclockwise.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Counterclockwise.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Okay, counterclockwise.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, all right.
		Maybe we can all get together and, I don't know, start it going the other way.
		I'm not sure what the relevance of the question was exactly at all.
		So there you are.
		Anyway, it doesn't matter because we're out of time.
		You have a website, Doctor?
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Universe Lies Within.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And that will help people in the process that we've been talking about tonight listen more closely to their own minds.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		This has been a delight, Art.
		You're an amazing.
		I just love what you're doing with the show, and I think you're, in spite of yourself, you're having a huge positive effect on the laws of nature.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I hope so.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure of it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's lots of times when I'm not.
		At any rate, either way, I appreciate your being here.
		Believe me, it was great.
		It's one of my favorite topics.
		Thank you, Doctor, and good night.
dr garland landrith ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good night.
		All right.
		Well, there you have it.
		I'm still not altogether sure about this power or process.
		But I know one thing.
		I know it's real.
		And I guess we will decide what to do with it.

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