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art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi Desert and the Great American Southwest, good evening, good morning, good afternoon, wherever you may be in the world's living time, covering all of them with this program.
		We are post-post AM on Market L. And I'm gonna tell you the hair on the back of my neck is standing up right now.
		And that doesn't happen easily.
unidentified		I don't do a lot of strange things for a lot of years.
unidentified		That doesn't happen easily, and I'll tell you all about that in a second.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But tonight, we would do open lines on my one, something I haven't done in a very long time.
		And for that end, I will donate one line, what is usually the first time color line.
		That would be your code 7757271222 to the.
		What shall we call it?
		The non-human entity encounter line.
		That would cover a lot of territory, including abductions, of course.
		That's exactly what I mean, the non-human encounter line.
		Those of you out there who really have encountered a non-human entity of any kind under any circumstance.
		But I have a feeling that the show may take a different direction.
		Let us first review the news, such as it is this evening.
		U.S. intelligence agencies need to explain why their research indicated that Iraq possessed banned weapons before the American-led invasion, says the outgoing top U.S. inspector, who now believes Saddam Hussein had new such arms.
		Quote, I don't think they exist, end quote.
		That's David Kaye on Sunday, the fact that we found so far the weapons just don't exist.
		We've got to deal with that difference and understand why.
		So he's essentially saying to Washington, you really need to explain this.
		We went to war over this, and they don't seem to be here.
		This does require a public explanation.
		An Iraqi U.S. helicopter crashed in the Tigris River while searching for a missing soldier on Sunday.
		The Aircraft II crew members were missing.
		Didn't say what caused the crash of the OH-58D Warrior helicopter attached to the 101st Airborne Division.
		The rover, NASA's Opportunity rover, that is, zipped its first pictures of Mars to Earth on Sunday, delighting and puzzling scientists just hours after the spacecraft bounced to a landing.
		The pictures show a surface smooth and dark red in some places and strewn with fragmented slabs of light bedrock in others.
		Bounce marks left by the rover's airbags when it landed were clearly visible in the pictures.
		This one should raise your hackles a little.
		Thai boy dies as bird flu hits Indonesia.
		Hundreds of soldiers wearing safety masks, rubber gloves, and protective caps fanned out across a central Thai province Sunday on a mission to bury chickens believed to be carrying the bird flu.
		A six-year-old Thai boy died of the disease late Sunday, becoming the country's first confirmed human fatality as the World Health Organization warned the virus could be resistant to basic human influenza drugs.
		That's scary stuff.
		Barbara Walters, stepping down from 2020, said she'll step down this fall as host of that news magazine program.
		Walters74 will do about six interview specials a year for ABC, including her pre-Oscar show.
		But away from 2020 she goes.
		So that's sort of a brief world cap.
		It's bad enough in the world right now, isn't it?
		Recap of the world's news.
		I wrote a book with Whitley Striber.
		It's called The Coming Global Superstorm.
		And when Whitley and I wrote this, we envisioned by looking ahead, so yes, of course, it's part science and part science fiction.
		And it's, of course, the book used in part, based in, the movie is based in part, the coming movie, The Day After Tomorrow, it's called.
		You can see the trailer if you haven't seen it yet.
		It's based in part on this book.
		Which many, of course, dismissed as science fiction environmental scare stuff.
		Anyway, in the premise, those of you who have the book, just turn to the inside cover.
		And in the coming global superstorm, we have this paragraph right there on the inside cover.
		What will trigger it?
		Meaning the coming global superstorm.
		What will trigger it?
		Let me read from that one paragraph.
		Global warming is about to cause the North Atlantic Current, which pumps warm water into the Arctic, to suddenly drop To a more southerly route.
		This will cause an explosive change in climate, spawning a massive storm as cold Arctic air is freed to pour south, clashing with overheated air in temperate zones.
		That's what it says in the science fiction book.
		Now, I want to read you a story.
		I'm sorry we don't have it up.
		I did just before showtime phone Lex Loanhood to try and get a link up to this.
		But if you want to check out what I'm about to read you, you can go to the independent.co.uk and read it, because that's where the story has come from.
		Breaking tonight with today's date, January 25th, the independent.co.uk, and as soon as Lex gets it, we'll get a link up there.
		Well, let's tell you what, it's a pretty long story, so let's quickly take a break, bearing in mind what I just read to you from our book, The Coming Global Superstorm.
		Keeping that in mind, we'll be right back.
		Once again, this story that I'm about to read to you, breaking in the last couple of hours from the independent.co.uk.
		Headline is, global warming will plunge Britain into new ice age within decades.
		Listen to this.
		Britain is likely to be plunged into an ice age within our lifetime by global warming.
		New research suggests.
		It always begins that way.
		New research suggests.
	A study which is being taken seriously by top government scientists has uncovered a change of, quote, remarkable amplitude, end quote, in the circulation of the waters of the North Atlantic.
	Now, you're just hearing about this.
	A remarkable, let's see, use their words.
	A change of remarkable amplitude.
	Similar events in prehistory are known to have caused sudden flips of the climate, bringing ice ages to northern Europe within a few decades.
	The development described as, quote, the largest and most dramatic oceanic change ever measured in the era of modern instruments, end quote, by the U.S. Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute, very well respected, which led the research, threatens to turn off the Gulf Stream, which keeps Europe's weather mild.
	Turn it off, folks.
	If that happens, Britain and Northern Europe are expected to switch abruptly to the climate of Labrador, which is on the same latitude, bringing a nightmare scenario where farmland turns to tundra and winter temperatures drop below minus 20 degrees centigrade.
	Much heralded cold snap predicted for the coming weeks would seem bomby by comparison.
	A report by the International Geosphere-Biosphere Program in Sweden, launched by Nobel Prize winner Professor Paul Crutzen and other top scientists, warned last week that pollution threatened to trigger, quote, trigger changes with catastrophic consequences, end quote, like these.
	Scientists have long expected that global warming could, paradoxically, and it does seem that way I know, cause a devastating cooling in Europe by disrupting the Gulf Stream, which brings as much heat to Britain in winter as the sun, as does our sun.
	The U.S. National Academy of Sciences has even described such abrupt dramatic changes as, quote, likely, end quote.
	But until now, it has been thought this would be at least a century away.
	The new research by scientists at the Center for Environmental, Fisheries, and Agriculture Science at Lowstroft and Canada's Bedford Institute of Oceanography, as well as Woodshole, indicate that this may already be beginning to happen.
	Dr. Ruth Curry, the study's lead scientist, says, quote, this has the potential to change the circulation of the ocean significantly in our lifetime.
	Northern Europe will likely experience a significant cooling.
	Robert Gogosian, the director of Woods Hole, considered one of the world's leading oceanographic institutes, said, quote, we may be approaching a threshold that would shut down the Gulf Stream and cause abrupt climate changes.
	Even as the Earth as a whole continues to warm gradually, large regions may experience a precipitous and disruptive shift into colder climates.
	The scientists who studied the composition off the waters of the Atlantic, of the waters rather, from Greenland to Tiro del Fugo found that they have become very much saltier in the tropics and subtropics and very much fresher toward the poles over the last 50 years.
	This is alarming because the Gulf Stream is driven by cold, very salty water sinking in the North Atlantic.
	This pulls warm surface waters northwards, forming the current.
	The change is described as the fingerprint of global warming.
	As the world heats up, more water evaporates from the tropics, falls as rain in temperate and polar regions, making the warm waters saltier and the cold ones fresher.
	Melting polar ice adds more fresh water.
	Ominously, the trend has accelerated since 1990, during which time the 10 hottest years on record have occurred.
	Many studies have shown that similar changes in the waters of the North Atlantic in geological time have often plunged Europe into an ice age, sometimes bringing the change in as little as a decade.
	The National Academy of Sciences says the jump occurs in the same way as, quote, the slowly increasing pressure of a finger eventually flips a switch and turns on a light, end quote.
	Once the switch has occurred, the new hostile climate lasts for decades at least and possibly centuries.
	When the Gulf Stream abruptly turned off about 12,700 years ago, it brought about a 1,300-year period known as the Younger Dais.
	This froze Britain.
	That's right, folks.
	Froze Britain in continuous permafrost, drove summer temperatures down to 10 degrees centigrade and winter ones to minus 20 centigrade, and brought icebergs as far south as Portugal.
	Europe, obviously, could not sustain anything like its present population.
	Droughts struck across the globe, including Asia, Africa, and the American West.
	That's where I am.
	As the disruptive Gulf Stream affected currents worldwide.
	Now, some scientists say, of course, this is a worst-case scenario and that the cooling may be less dramatic with the world's climate flickering between colder and warmer states for several decades, but they add, in practice, this would be almost as catastrophic for agriculture and civilization as what I just read you.
	So it's kind of eerie.
	No, it's very eerie to write a book, particularly one in which you have described the precise trigger for the coming global superstorm, as we did in our book.
	The stoppage, the abrupt stoppage of that Atlantic flow, and here we are with a story tonight saying it's already begun.
	It's already begun.
	So I think that I would like to ask all of you a pretty heady question, and that is, how do you think the world would react to a worldwide global environmental catastrophic event of this magnitude, exactly this?
	We've got to get this story up to read it.
	And when I did, having written that book, of course, the hair on the back of my neck just stood straight up.
	This is within the last few hours.
	And so I've been toying with this idea and this concept for a while, as you know, since, of course, writing the book with Whitley.
	But here it is.
	Now, I wonder how you think the world would handle such an event.
	Europe would be in dire distress, immediate, dire distress.
	I mean, London would be suddenly frozen.
	It would be frozen over.
	I mean, they could no longer sustain the population of that portion of Europe, period.
	It would shift perhaps ultimately billions of people.
	And it could do that inside of 10 years.
	Just like you heard the article.
	I hope you did.
	Just like somebody throwing a switch that quickly.
	Now, what is it we're seeing with the climate right now?
	The little flickering, twitching changes that are occurring before that moment?
	Or something less dramatic?
	Well, according to this story, I would say, just offhand, you combine this with things like species-jumping viruses and all the rest of it, and you begin to get a pretty dire picture, actually.
	And I just wonder how you think the world would deal with, well, what would happen?
	Europe, to some degree, would begin to empty, right?
	People would get the hell out.
	But where would they go?
	Would we help, for example, Britain?
	Certainly.
	I guess we would, wouldn't we?
	We'd have to do our very best.
	America would have to do its best to help part of Europe.
	Would we help the French?
	I don't know.
	Could we handle the influx of people to America?
	America would have its own problems.
	According to this article, the American West would be in an extremely serious drought.
	Asia would be in trouble.
	The world would be in really big trouble.
	Because where we presently grow things and have people living, it just would not be fit any longer to grow these things.
	And you couldn't grow them, so you'd have starvation.
	You'd have movement of people on a scale that we can't even contemplate.
	Would we slam our borders closed if the world began to have a crisis of this magnitude?
unidentified		Could we afford to do that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Would we continue to get oil?
		How drastic would the change be here, even if Europe froze, which is becoming more likely, frankly, by the moment in my mind?
		What would the politicians do, do you suppose?
		Our president, how would he handle it?
		Could we afford to hold the rest of the world's or two-thirds of the rest of the world's hand in every way, financially, economically, With foreign aid allowing our borders to be open at a time when we're thinking, frankly, probably privately of closing them with the terrorism threat and all the rest of it.
		It's a very serious story.
		A very, very serious story.
		Of course, I suppose there will continue to be those with their heads in the sand out there.
		We will always have that crowd until it actually occurs, and perhaps even after the event itself begins, which appears to be the case right now, they will continue to have their heads in the sand.
		And all in all, there may not be anything we can do about this at all.
		We may not be able to prevent it.
		We like to think we are our own masters, and to some degree we are, but Mother Nature, well, she just may have another plan in mind for us.
		So I thought, aside from having totally open minds, which we will have tonight, that I would ask you how you thought we would handle, I guess ask about the U.S., our government would handle such a world catastrophic event of this magnitude.
		People moving, nations becoming uninhabitable, people starving to death.
		How would we handle that?
		Seems like that'd be a good topic for a talk show, doesn't it?
		What do you think our Congress would do?
		What would you recommend?
		I mean, would you help the rest of the world, the Europeans, our friends, the British?
		Maybe not our friends, the French, former friends.
		What about the rest of Europe?
		A lot of lands would become uninhabitable.
		Would we have our hand out and our wallets open?
		It may be happening.
		From the high desert, this is Coast to Coast AM.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		And then the following will be the least creepy of all to you, but it's the most creepy to me.
		You know, we wrote the book, The Coming Global Superstorm, and that was the premise, you know, the North Atlantic Current.
		And then tonight I find the story.
		By the way, thank you very much, Lex Lonehood.
		If you want to see a link to it, it's just out by a couple hours, an hour, two hours, something or another.
		We've got it up on the website right now.
		Thank you, Lex.
		Right up there at the top, Coming Ice Age.
		Just click where the orange word that says article.
		You can read what I just read and see if I embellished anywhere at all in any way.
unidentified		I didn't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What really creeps me out, though, is regarding this whole thing, I can feel it.
		I can feel it coming.
		I know it's going to happen.
		And I actually think that I can feel it happening.
		I can feel the fact that it's hanging over us like a giant dark cloud over the entire world right now because it's actually happening.
		That's just my feeling, but that's the one that really sets the hairs straight up on the back of my neck.
		Probably the least important for you in terms of the book forecast or the article out tonight.
		Shocking article out tonight.
		Least important to you, but maybe the most important to me because I just know it.
		It's one of those knowing things.
		I'm not psychic, but I've known this for a long time.
		I've known that we were about to undergo a rapid climate change, and I've known that for quite some time now, mentally.
		I've just known it.
		And I don't expect you to enter that into your equation at all as we discuss this.
		But I know it's coming.
		And that does kind of freak me out.
		We'll be right back.
unidentified		We'll be right back.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I promised open lines, and here they come.
		On the international line, you are up first.
		You're on there.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
		Good evening.
		It's Paul calling from the Paul Show in Vancouver.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Listening on 1410 CFUN.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		How are you this evening?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Quite well, thank you.
unidentified		Great.
		First, your topic.
		I think what I feel the last couple of years, Art, is that the summers have gotten a lot hotter.
		The sun seems to be hotter.
		And I do agree with what you're saying.
		I think something rash is going to happen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		know it's coming i i just like it It's just one Of those knowing things, which I wouldn't expect to mean much to you.
unidentified		Oh, I absolutely agree with you.
		And I feel, you know, it's going to cause chaos.
		The world may go into war.
		I feel people are going to have to move underground, and I feel we're going to have to make artificial growing environments.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you think it would force people?
		Well, it might force some people underground.
		There's just not enough good arable land if something like this were to occur.
unidentified		What's all this drilling we hear underground with the government's doing right now?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Maybe they know something we're just finding out.
		I don't know.
		I have no idea.
		But, boy, I'll tell you what.
		Don't take my word for it.
		We've got the link up now.
		Go read this article from.
unidentified		I can't wait for that movie to come out.
unidentified		I'm really anxious to see it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you think the United States would do if Europe, for example, got into really serious trouble?
		I mean, it iced over.
		It became Labrador.
		What do you think the U.S. would we give aid?
		Would we open our borders?
		What the hell would we do?
unidentified		You know, we'd have to try.
		Absolutely.
		I think we'd have to try.
		But I feel there's only so much room, and I feel it's going to create chaos.
		And, you know, people, after a while, people will be fighting for food.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's the thing of wars, isn't it?
unidentified		Yes, absolutely.
unidentified		Another quick comment, if I could.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		If the rovers, you know, we do get them working on Mars.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And, you know, the whole reason we sent them there is for life.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		If the cameras actually do spot one of Richard Hoagland's statues or tunnels or tubes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, let's back up a little bit.
		The whole reason we sent them there is not life.
		You know, that's certainly a possible byproduct of what they might discover, but really we want to know about water.
		I think that was a prime objective.
		But that kind of equates to life.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		All I'm saying is if they did get a picture of it, would the government or NASA get to show the public, would we actually get to see it or would they cover it up?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a better question than you know.
		Let me try and deal with that.
		And then, you know, they might already have something like that, right?
		They might have a photograph of something that shows there once was a civilization on Mars.
		and if they got such photograph, would they release it to us?
		I don't think so.
		Not right away.
		I think that NASA would want to.
		I think that there would be political considerations that for at least a period of time would take precedence.
		And there would be a lot of consultation with all kinds of people before they would release that kind of information.
		You'd want to run it by the clerics and the wise men and politicians and all the boards and probably Brooks Institute, Brookings or something.
		Once again, I don't know.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello?
unidentified		How's it going there?
unidentified		Mr. Bell, I presume.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you presume correctly.
unidentified		Yeah.
		And my brother had me call the show.
		He says you guys are pretty well informed on my subject here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And that is?
unidentified		Well, I live down here in Tucson, Arizona.
		I live on the west side, way outside of town.
		Pretty much for miles and miles around, all you see is sand, brush, and cactus.
		A couple of weeks ago, me and my brother and my cousin, we were out there on my porch, relaxing, watching the sunset.
		And a coyote jetted through right in front of my trailer there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A fairly common sight in this part of the world.
unidentified		Yeah, they usually stay away from my trailer.
		About ten minutes later, two more coyotes ran through.
		And so me and my buddies, you know, we got our rifles out.
		We sat out front there with our beers.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're not going to shoot coyotes, are you?
unidentified		Well, down here, they're considered a pest.
		They're overpopulating.
		They get into our chicken huts.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you, your beer, and your rifles are on the front porch.
unidentified		Yeah, and, you know, we just defend our perimeter around our house, you know, so they understand to stay away, which they usually do.
		But anyways, so we're sitting out there.
		It's already gotten dark.
		Sun went down.
		And I see, looks like people going through the brushes.
		So, I mean, like I said, miles from anywhere.
		No people come around my area.
		So me and my brother went out.
		We headed out there to go see what was going on.
		We took our floodlight.
		We have a million candle power floodlight.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And no doubt your rifles.
unidentified		Of course, yeah.
		Anyways, we got out there and we were attempting to follow the people we thought we saw, and then there appeared to be more behind us.
		Sometimes in this area, so close to the border, we get a lot of illegal immigrants coming through.
		And I don't harass them, I don't detain them.
		It's none of my business, really.
		But that's what we figured they were, so we snuck up on the group coming behind us.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, I'm sure this will all ends well, that ends well, and I'm hoping this does end well, but right now is beginning to sound like a Darwin Awards story.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Continue, please.
unidentified		Right.
		Anyways, we tried to flank them, so we spaced out and crudged down.
		They appeared to be going right between us.
		From what I saw, it was hard to explain.
		It looked like a shadow.
		Like when you see people's shadows walking on the ground, it appeared like their shadows on the ground were standing straight up and they were walking.
		That's all there was of them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So what did you do?
unidentified		I stayed where I was.
		We were going to jump out, put our lights on them.
		But I stayed where I was.
		I was pretty scared.
		And my brother was too.
		He didn't jump out.
		And we just watched them walk through.
		I'll say it or them.
		I don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's a troop of shadow people.
unidentified		Sorry.
		Yeah, it looked like a group of them.
		Anyways, we stayed exactly where we were.
		I heard my brother whistling.
		We have a call to each other, so I went over to him.
		And he was scared so bad, he just didn't know what to do.
		But we wound up staying there and talking about it, you know, trying to say we had too many beers or what's going on here.
		And another group came through.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Another group of shadow people?
unidentified		Yeah, and it was a much, much larger group this time.
		It was like standing in the brush.
		It was almost like a wave of water.
		You could feel and see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So, now what did you do?
unidentified		Well, we just sat there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		At no time did you shoot at the shadow people?
unidentified		No, no, we didn't know what was going on.
unidentified		I was too afraid to turn on my swamp light, much less take a shot at something.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, so this ended well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You both are alive, and you might have.
unidentified		Really well.
unidentified		My brother hadn't recovered quite the same.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think I've got you.
		All right.
		Well, that did sound like the beginning of a Darwin Award, didn't it?
		Speaking of which, we have a few for your consideration here.
		Let's see, a runner-up in the new Darwins.
		An American teenager was in the hospital yesterday recovering from serious head wounds received from an oncoming train.
		When asked how he received the injuries, the lad told police that he was simply trying to see how close he could get his head to a moving train before he was hit.
		And in this way, the gene pool surely is cleansed.
		And then this.
		When a man attempted to siphon gasoline from a motorhome parked on a Seattle street, he got much more than he bargained for.
		Police arrived at the scene to find a very sick man curled up next to a motorhome near a spilled sewage.
		Police spokesperson said man tried to attempt to steal gasoline, but unfortunately plugged his siphonose into the motorhome sewage tank by mistake.
		By the way, owner of the vehicle declined to press charges, saying it was the best laugh he's had all day.
		And then finally, this, when his.38-caliber revolver failed to fire at his intended victim during a holdup in Long Beach, California, the would-be robber, James Elliott, did something that can only inspire wonder.
		He, of course, peered directly down the barrel and tried the trigger again.
		This time it worked.
		And in this way, perhaps the human race advances.
		I'm not sure about that.
		Wildcard line, you're on here.
unidentified		Hello.
		Yes, good evening, Art.
		Thanks for taking the call.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're very welcome.
unidentified		This is Roland.
unidentified		I'm calling from Boise, Idaho.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		On a cell phone, aren't you, Roland?
unidentified		Yes, I am.
unidentified		You can always tell, can't you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		But I think that last caller, did you know that in Asia's part of the world, they also grow peyote down in that country?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They also what?
unidentified		Grow peyote.
unidentified		The little hallucinate plant.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you mean peyote?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Peyote, yes.
		Yes, indeed.
		You think they may have had a little peyote with their beer?
unidentified		Well, I don't know.
		Sounds pretty strange to me.
		But in regard to the business about Great Britain and that country creeping over.
		How's that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Europe, actually, yes.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		I think what might happen as far as United States policy is that regardless of whether it's Republicans or Democrats in office, I think we will continue to pursue an aggressive oil policy and create more situations.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We would have to pursue an aggressive oil policy no matter what the hell happened anywhere in the world.
unidentified		Exactly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It wouldn't matter.
		However, there would certainly potentially be a fight.
		For example, a freezing Great Britain in Europe would have to have, certainly at the beginning of this, before they realized perhaps their land was not habitable any longer, there would be a long period of time where they would need a great deal of heating fuel and fuel just to stay alive.
unidentified		You bet they would.
		And I can see that, you know, our policies being aggressive in Iran and the Eastern Caspian and a number of other places.
		Oh, wait a minute.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You don't think that's why we might invade a country like Iraq right in the middle of the oil world, do you?
unidentified		Oh, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It couldn't be that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It was the weapons of mass destruction, right?
unidentified		Exactly, right?
		Darn right.
		Give me three lashes for that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry.
unidentified		But as an aside, I know Lex is doing a good job for George, but I wanted to make sure that your previous webmaster, Keith, did he land up all right somewhere?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Keith Rowland is doing fine.
		I talk to him from time to time, and I talked to him, in fact, I talked to Mary Rowland just a couple days ago.
		They're doing fine.
unidentified		He did a wonderful job for you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He absolutely did.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate the call, sir.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, and take care.
		It's really interesting, isn't it, to contemplate how we would help our neighbors, what we would do or not do to help our neighbors, and if it really got rough, what we would do.
		I mean, it's almost hard to picture a world, the kind of world that this story depicts as our being on the threshold of right now.
		This is a big story.
		I wonder if the networks are going to pick this up.
		I wonder if the major U.S. networks anyway are going to pick this up.
		Or is this something just too...
		I mean, it's got everybody behind it.
		But it's a pretty scary scenario, a pretty scary story.
		What do you think the networks will do with this over the next couple of days or weeks?
		Sometimes they don't get it right away, you know.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello, this is Michael in Norfolk, Virginia.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Michael.
unidentified		I'm a little chilly.
		My voice may sound a little shaky.
		I just come in from shoveling snow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A lot of snow there.
unidentified		Yeah, this is kind of unusual for us.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I like snow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I can see it on the 11,900-foot mountain outside my window here, and that's the best place for it, right up there.
unidentified		Wow, wow.
		I want to address your question Of the night, if it won't cost me the chance to talk about your interview with the CIA remote viewer Lynn Buchanan two weeks ago and why I think it will mark the greatest turning point in the history of this program.
		So let me talk about Would we help the Europeans in the case of a major disaster?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And even beyond that, how would we react as a nation?
		I mean, would we slam the borders shut?
		Would we or what?
unidentified		Well, I've got a surprise answer for you.
unidentified		I think that you are playing the role of Jonah the prophet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Please, you know, it's eerie enough for me right now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Don't lay that on me.
unidentified		Well, this is a good thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't know if I think of it that way.
unidentified		I'll tell you why I think it's a good thing.
unidentified		Because as in the case with Gary North, where you saved America and the whole world from a tremendous Y2K collapse.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not everybody feels that way about Gary North, even though you are absolutely correct.
		The billions of dollars spent on Y2K prevented a disaster.
		But people don't buy that because it didn't happen.
		Anyway, go ahead.
unidentified		Well, $500 billion is not the kind of money that corporate America likes to spend.
		And the only reason they did it is because coast-to-coast listeners bombarded their banks and their governments and everybody that has anything to do with power in this country.
		And they had to spend the money.
		It's as simple as that.
		We would have had disaster.
		So they're laughing at you for being a success.
		And I hope you'll be a success again.
		Last night's guest, coupled with Fred Allen Wolfe, tells us why with mass consciousness we could prevent a coming global superstorm, which is inevitable.
		The scripture talks about it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Listen, we're very short on time, and I don't want you to miss out here.
unidentified		Okay, okay.
		Lynn Buchanan and why.
		Yes.
		Look, he described something called remote influencing, by locating.
		And this is very controversial because he described doing it to Jesus just as Ed James described doing it to Satan.
		Now, the reason why this is very significant is this.
		Jesus himself talked about this dynamic.
		He said it is a principle that can be used.
		He described himself as using it.
		He, on the night that he was crucified, told his disciples that this is the way by which he would influence them in the future.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, we've got to hold it right there.
		You know, if I could travel in time, I guarantee the time I would pick would be the time when Jesus walked on the earth.
		I would want to see that for myself.
		Oh, if only one could see that, how it would change life.
unidentified		It don't come easy.
		You know it don't come easy.
		It don't come easy.
		You know it don't come easy.
		Come and pay your dues if you want to sing the blues.
		And you know it don't come easy.
		You don't have to shout all the evil lies.
		You can even play.
		Thank you.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		Best thing for you to do is decide for yourself, but don't stick your head in the sand.
		Go read an article that I've now got up on the website, coasttacoastam.com.
		Pop there, it says feature article, coming ice age.
		We've just got it up at airtime.
		Click where it says article in orange, and you'll be taken to the United Kingdom, where if you sit and you read the entire article dated tonight, now, it'll turn your blood cold.
		Just like the just like parts of the Atlantic are about to turn cold and what that's going to do.
		Well, that's what we're talking about.
		So if you're just joining us late, go read that article and join in.
		But it's open lines.
unidentified		anything you want to talk about their games Oh, good evening.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Or if you can say that about a morning when you have news like this, I don't know.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Alan.
unidentified		How you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I am okay, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What's your first name?
unidentified		Dan.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, Dan.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What's up?
unidentified		Phoenix.
		Going back to, say, 1960, I've been concerned about what we're talking about now.
		And it's always been kind of on my mind.
		And just too late that that has to do.
		And later on, I'm reading Casey's predictions about earth changes.
		And one of the, and he, without getting in order to the earth changes, one of the, at the very end, he says that the northern part of Europe will change within the twinkling of an eye, which is fast.
		I'm a hypnotist for many years, and I have one subject that I put under, and she's phenomenal.
		She's scary.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why so?
unidentified		Well, she'll explain a few of the things she comes up with, and I never suggest, you know, how anything.
		In fact, she doesn't know who our Belle is, and the subject we're into, she's far away from.
		So the things that I've asked her about was what are the chemtrails?
		And she described the ships as being big airplanes with only windows up in her front.
		They weren't passenger.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, why would you have reason to believe that under hypnosis or not, she would know what chemtrails are?
unidentified		She doesn't under ordinary conditions.
unidentified		She didn't know what chemtrails are until I start questioning her.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But I mean, from where do you imagine she amasses this knowledge under hypnosis or?
unidentified		Some entity that happens to be her guardian angel or whoever.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I really don't know.
unidentified		So anyhow, she comes up with this information, and one of it is that the chemtrails are by Did you ask her what the purpose of the chemtrails would be?
unidentified		Didn't get into that that much, but boy, she sure described it as a spout coming out the back, coming out underneath.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, I think I've got it.
		So somebody's sort of channeling in a way.
		Well, here's one scenario that I don't toss away as impossible.
		There have been many reports of what appear to be not the normal contrails of an airplane, but rather something else.
		And we've had a lot of chemical reports and guests on the subjects, and they're called chemtrails.
		And people are suspicious that something's coming out of these jets other than the normal contrail.
		Well, a wag, a wild-ass guess might be that our government or governments of the world have in fact determined what we're just beginning to find out now.
		And that is that the world is in for a massive climate change of some sort.
		And you have to imagine that this effort might be some attempt to make less or even stop what otherwise appears to be underway.
		And that's truly a wild-ass guess.
		That's all it is.
		But, you know, why else would you spray?
		Well, you might be spraying people, you might be testing bioweapons, you might be trying to prevent some sort of disease or terrorist act, or you might be trying to change the weather.
		International Line, you're on the air.
		Hello, where are you?
unidentified		Good evening, Art.
unidentified		This is Sally calling from Vancouver, Canada.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, Sally.
unidentified		I've listened to you on CFUN 1410.
		I've never called you before, but I listen to you a lot.
		I do enjoy your topics on prophecy and the pyramids and this current topic.
		I tuned in late, so I heard something about the weather.
		I don't know what this horrific thing is.
		I'm visually impaired and I don't have an internet.
		But I wanted to, it brought to mind in Vancouver here, the weather is quite mild on the coast.
		But we always had snow in December, January, February.
		But some number of years ago, maybe 10 years ago, I noticed that in winter, there was no snow at all.
		We had several winters where the grass was green and it was very spring-like.
		And, you know, nobody seemed to notice it.
		I kept saying to people, did you notice that something different, the weather's changed?
		And they said, well, there wasn't much reaction.
		I kept saying that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's because for most people, it's the weather, and it always changes.
		I mean, it's not a topic of world class discussion.
		You know, it does change.
		I mean, it gets really cold for a while, really hot for a while, but there are trends that are much larger than those.
		And what we're discussing tonight is the current in the Atlantic Ocean.
		We have a report tonight out just hours now indicating that this current is slowing and may be about to stop.
		And should that occur, Great Britain and that part of Europe would suddenly become frozen.
unidentified		Oh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
		Frozen.
		Actually, frozen.
		Other parts of the world.
unidentified		Is that the Gulf Stream that they're talking about?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why, yes, it is.
unidentified		Yes.
		Well, the thing about the discussion of the weather, it's not like, as you say, just changing from day to day, one day hot.
		It is so drastic, the seasons, that I kept saying there's something very, very wrong.
		At that time, there were no books out on global warming or discussions about that type of thing.
		But I kept saying that there's something, the world, the climate, at least in this part of the country, is changing dramatically.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, U.S. Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute, you know, very well respected, I mean, worldwide reputation, right?
		Just said that described, they described the development as, quote, the largest and most dramatic oceanic change ever measured in the era of modern instruments.
		Okay?
		So what do you think our government and your government in Canada would do to aid a Europe suddenly unable to sustain human life?
		Well when you say freeze over...
		I mean get as cold in London as it is in Labrador.
unidentified		And there'd be sort of ice all over the place or something?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sort of, yes.
unidentified		Well, I mean, I don't know about this country here because our government seems to be so broke all the time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you're saying Canada couldn't really chip in big time?
unidentified		Well, what, for instance, what could they do?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Could they to open your borders and you could allow millions of Europeans who won't have a place to live to come in?
unidentified		But would they come over the Atlantic by boat or how would they come over?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Probably any way they could.
unidentified		Yes.
		Well, they might just do that because, you know, we're sort of an open country here.
		Just about every immigration laws now are so loose that you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You have to wonder how those sorts of things, thank you, might change.
		You know, immigration laws, those sorts of things, when you had hundreds of millions of people that wanted to immigrate.
		I mean, that's not the normal flow of immigration.
		That's emptying a big portion of a continent.
		While other continents are perhaps in starvation, that's a very serious thing to contemplate.
		It's a worldwide catastrophic event, to be sure.
		First-time caller align, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, my name's Luke.
unidentified		I'm calling from Fort Lauderdale.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		You know, I think that the U.S. and Canada would help the Europeans in this situation.
		To what degree do you suppose?
		Well, I think they would open the borders, and the Europeans have, you know, treasure like most nations, and they could help finance their migration here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you have a point there.
		Yes, you have a point there.
		The Europeans certainly are money people, and so they could bring it with them.
unidentified		They could bring some of it, I'm sure.
		But what this really brought to my mind is, you know, in the past, droughts and natural occurrences and the climate and such have sparked wars for resources.
		Oh, you bet.
		And this freeze-over would definitely affect Central Europe and Russia.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, even if it happened as quickly as they suggest, say in 10 years, there would be increasing incremental but very fast pressure.
		Europe would begin to freeze.
		They would need a very great deal of fuel to keep from dying.
unidentified		That's right.
unidentified		And this move of ours with Great Britain into Iraq and Afghanistan and around the Caspian Sea area.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You don't suppose that has anything to do with it, do you?
unidentified		Yes, I do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you do?
unidentified		Actually.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Along with other cataclysms that they know are on the way.
		But one thing that comes to my mind is the prophecy in Ezekiel where Russia and different tribes, I could go through the biblical names of all of them, but a lot of those have to do with Central Europe, especially East Germany.
		So you should include the Germans in this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, absolutely.
unidentified		A move into Iran, Iraq, into warmer climates, and a rush for the oil fields.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's where you get into the good old World War situation.
		The rush for the oil fields.
		You see, that's really what it would come down to.
unidentified		Wouldn't it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A rush for the oil fields, because everybody would more than ever, in fact, as a matter of life and death, need the oil.
		And our economy, as a matter of life and death, needs the oil.
		So as those shrinking resources are met head-on by a worldwide environmental catastrophic event of this magnitude, would you have World War?
		Well, you'd have the Macons, wouldn't you?
		Wildcard Line, you're on the air.
		Good evening.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
unidentified		This is David from Cleveland.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Listening on WTAM.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Way to go.
unidentified		You had a call out for non-human entity contact stories.
		That's absolutely correct, yes.
		I've been having one continuously for about the past year or so.
		I've actually tried to call during one of George Norrie's earlier shows.
		He had a caller who was a priest and he felt that he had been visited by a spirit, a succubus, he actually referred to it as.
		And he had, you know, he prayed, he called the name of Jesus, and he cast it out.
		I've actually had a similar experience, but kind of with a different twist, actually.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We lost you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you there?
unidentified		I'm sorry?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you are there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead.
unidentified		Yes.
		Yeah.
		I don't know if I've been visited by a similar spirit than he was.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, what makes you think you have?
unidentified		What happened to you?
		It started with a series of dreams that I started having last January, actually.
		They were just on that edge of sleep, just where you're just starting to wake up.
		You're kind of half aware of the room around you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Twilight Zone, yeah.
unidentified		Exactly.
		And the first dream was extremely vivid.
		I felt her actually come down onto the bed.
		I could hear the coils in the bed creak.
		I could feel the sheets rustle.
		I could actually feel her kind of wrap around me.
		And it wasn't malicious.
		I couldn't feel any ill intent.
		It was just warm.
		It was comforting.
		And I thought to myself, well, okay, this is an interesting dream.
		Told my friends about it.
		Two weeks later, I have another dream along these lines.
		Two weeks later, another dream.
		It starts to become a pattern.
		And my friends initially think, okay, maybe he's just imagining things.
		And two or three months later, a friend of mine came over and just spent the night.
		And while she actually went to get into my bed, and just as she did, consciously, she's much more in tune with energies and spirits.
		She actually felt her sit down on the end of the bed with her.
		I wasn't even in the room at the time.
		She sat down on the bed and felt the spirit sit down on the bed with her.
		She has my spirit, which I've named her Betty.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And then did what when this happened?
unidentified		It's kind of a strange relationship that she and I have, the spirit that I've.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How strange?
unidentified		She works through me.
		It's almost a vampiric relationship almost.
		I know it's something of a taboo word, but she actually works through me.
		I help her perform energy feeding, which is actually not a malicious experience, actually.
		It's quite a puzzling experience for all involved.
		But it's, I mean, there's not enough time to go into all the detail, but you have to understand where I'm coming from with this.
		I'm an engineer.
		I've been a science and math person my entire life, and even just as of last year, before these things started happening, I had a lot of friends who were involved with Wicca and with spirituality and metaphysics.
		And I would constantly say, I just, I wish that something like this could happen to me.
		I've never felt anything like this.
		People say they see energy or they see or energy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there was your mistake.
		You must be careful what you wish for.
		And you see, there it happened.
unidentified		And honestly, this is a wish that I am extremely glad has come true.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, sir, if you're happy and she's happy, that's all that counts.
		Happy dreams.
		and they've been they do sound happy at base around I have a feeling those were the details.
		There wouldn't be enough time to go into, but that's what it sounded like.
		Good enough.
		He's for the Rockies.
		You're on air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Good evening, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good evening, sir.
unidentified		This is Joe, calling from the area of WNAX, the Bow Tarch, in Yankton, South Dakota.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yankton, South Dakota, yes.
unidentified		We're about 120 miles from there, and we've had one little dusting of snow all winter.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you're kidding.
unidentified		Nope.
		We're in the wide open spaces.
		We're in a little house on the prairie area.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it ought to be brutal up there.
unidentified		There has been one three-inch snowfall and temperatures between 30 and 40 all winter.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Times are a change in sun.
unidentified		Unbelievable.
		You've got two guests that you should have back on, Art.
		Commander Donaldson about Flight 800 and Greg Wynn explaining the true nature of radical fundamental Islam.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, of course, we've done that twice, but I would be more than happy to delve into it yet again.
		As a matter of fact, it'll probably be an eternally returning topic since that seems to be the state of the world right now.
		You've got to wonder how such a catastrophic event as the world's weather changing like that would have on terrorism.
		Would it worsen the situation?
		Do you think it would worsen it?
		West of the Rockies, you're on air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
unidentified		This is Barry in Tucson, Arizona.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Barry.
unidentified		Is this open topic?
		Yes.
		I wanted to talk about acupuncture in Chinese medicine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, what about it?
unidentified		Just the basic thing that I'm an acupuncturist, and it's really tremendous how the Chinese learned to work with the body and work with nature to write things that got wrong.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you know how unlikely it is that I would allow anybody to stick pins in my body?
unidentified		And I had to wonder about that because I heard you're in so much pain.
unidentified		It's like, oh, I could probably help them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not by sticking pins in me.
		I have a phobia.
		I know I do about that.
		I don't like shots.
		I used to give them in the military and the Air Force.
unidentified		You'd be surprised how many people have a fear of needles, try acupuncture because their pain is so bad.
unidentified		But what I wanted to do is relate two stories to you about Chinese medicine and how they think.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, very quickly, because we're about out of time here.
unidentified		Okay.
		There was one of the valleys in China was getting inundated with respiratory diseases.
		They determined it was from a wind coming off the mountains.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		So the Chinese planted 8 million trees to change the wind patterns.
unidentified		Isn't that cool?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That is cool.
		As a matter of fact, that is cool.
		And I guess things like that could be done, maybe, with what appears to be coming at the world right now.
		You know, something to change it all?
		As I said, maybe that's what the chemtrails are all about.
		I don't know, but I do know you should read this article, The Coming Ice Age, at coastocoastam.com right now.
unidentified		click on the purple article part because it's coming pretty quickly he's got this dream about buying some land he's gonna give up the booze and the one night stand and then he's settled down it's a quiet little
		town and forget about everything.
		But you know he's always keep moving you know he's never gonna stop moving cause he's rolling he's the rolling stone.
		When you wake up it's a new morning the sun is shining it's a new morning you're going you're going home.
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		What do you think, folks?
		The great last days of the great planet Earth?
		Or just a great big nothing?
		Well, some of the best scientists in the whole world are talking about the first.
		By the way, if you're here in the Perum Valley where I reside, you can listen on KNYT.
		That would be our radio station.
		Here in Perum, 95.1 FM or over the hill in Las Vegas at 100.1 FM.
		If you're in Las Vegas, you might tune around.
		100.1 FM.
		See if you can catch us in the middle of the night.
		International line, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How you doing?
unidentified		This is three here talking from Powell River, B.C., listening to you on KEX.
		Yes, sir.
		Lovely Portland.
		Yes.
		Weather change.
		Well, you know, I can't really understand it because I was listening to George last week, and there was a guest on, and he was saying that the seas are warming up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That the seas are warming up.
unidentified		Yeah, and that's a fact.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He said, they are indeed changing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You might want to read this article so that you might fully understand what it would mean.
unidentified		That could be, but how can it be that the seas are the majority of the Earth as far as material is concerned on the Earth?
unidentified		I mean, the seas are much bigger than the land mass.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		So the seas are warming up.
unidentified		It may mean change, that's all.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's going to mean change.
unidentified		It'll mean overall that the land masses will have to warm up also.
unidentified		There was somebody also with George a little while ago, and he was saying we're coming to the end of the last ice age at this time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you see, I'm reading what Woods Hole is saying right now.
		I mean, these are the best in the world that are saying this for what it's worth.
		I mean, you might want to prove this article and then check back with me, but I appreciate it.
		You know, a lot of people believe a lot of things, and that's fine.
		But you do have to at least give a wink and a nod to the very world's best.
		You know, Woods Hole is right there at the top, and you just can't ignore what they say.
		Well, you can ignore what they say, but you better not.
		That's what I'd say.
		First time calling a line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hey, Art.
unidentified		This is Terry from Arkansas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Terry.
unidentified		How you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm okay.
unidentified		I want to tell you, it's an honor to have someone that hosts a radio show that doesn't have a political agenda and is an open-minded person.
		Honor you for that.
		On the question you have tonight, if we're here in 20 years, I'm an optimist, but the news in the last few months just gets gloomier and gloomier.
		And it's one thing or another now.
		And if we're here in 20 years, I'd be surprised.
		We'll deal with it then.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I wouldn't say that we won't be here in 20 years, but we could be living under radically different circumstances.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's not going to be the, that's why I kind of was joking about the, you know, the last days of the great planet Earth.
unidentified		We'll be living for survival instead of material.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, these could be the days that we'll refer to as the good old days, back when everything was, quote, normal.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sort of.
unidentified		I've got one other little quick point to make.
		Yes.
		We went to Mars looking for life.
		We went to the moon.
		We didn't find life as what we call life is life as we know it.
		That's not saying there's not life there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you mean on Mars?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of course not on the moon.
		I mean, there's no evidence of that.
		But on Mars, we haven't had a good enough look yet to really make any determination about Mars.
		But no, nothing's walked up to the screen.
		Oh, I know that.
unidentified		But I mean, we look at it as life as humans know it.
unidentified		You know, as humans could exist there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There is probably some kind of life on Mars, sir.
		That's just a fact.
		If we have life, and we do, at the bottom of our very deepest oceans near volcanic venting, the most primordial conditions that one can conceive of, then there could easily be, and likely is, life, perhaps not as we know it, but on Mars, and on other planets, and perhaps even moons.
		Some moons may harbor life, not necessarily as we know it, as you pointed out.
		Wild Cardeline, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		My name is Junia.
unidentified		I'm in Tulsa and listened to KFAQ 1170.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Tulsa, Oklahoma.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, ma'am.
unidentified		We haven't had the privilege of having your program for very long, but I've sure enjoyed it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, we try to be different.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
unidentified		Well, you definitely are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you can hear the same old stuff, you know, any old time.
unidentified		Right.
		Well, I just wanted to make a quick comment.
		Personally, I don't think that we would be that much of a help to Europe if something like that does occur.
		Because, you know, it's been my experience that the U.S. usually looks out for itself.
		And if they didn't have a lot that they could bring with them, we wouldn't help them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, when times get tough, I guess we'd find out how much we are really the world, you know, as they sing about and so forth and so on.
		Are we really the world?
		Or would we have to look out for ourselves?
		I don't know.
unidentified		Well, if it was up to the people, I think we would.
unidentified		But if it's up, you know, to the government.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you see, ultimately it would be up to the people because you'd probably have one candidate who believed that we should heavily invest in helping Europe while it icicled over.
		And then you'd probably have some other candidate who didn't feel that way at all and took a more nationalistic position.
		So the people might get to decide something like that.
unidentified		Well, that's possible.
		And I have one quick question for you.
		Sure.
		For those of us who do not have computers, is there any way to write to you?
		Because there's something that I've wanted to tell you about for a long time, but I would prefer not to do it on the air.
		But do you have like a...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, it would not be.
		Okay.
		I think that we have reactivated our P.O. box, but I'm not sure about that.
		So I will check into it, and if indeed we have, I will get that address out on the air.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		I'd really appreciate it.
		You'd really want to hear about this.
		This is really something good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, you could give me a hint here.
unidentified		Well, it's a great work that has been given to mankind, but you need to be a serious seeker after truth.
		And from what I've been able to just gather from listening to you, intuitively, I sense that you are a seeker of the truth.
		And if you really want to know the answers to a lot of the questions you talk about on your program, it's in this work.
		It really is.
		I'm not a quacker.
		I mean, it really is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What is the work?
unidentified		It's called In the Light of Truth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		that's some kind of book or pamphlet or something?
unidentified		Yeah, it's a three-volume work that has been given to mankind by higher sources, and it really...
unidentified		Well, you just have to read them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, no, no, no.
		What higher sources?
		God, aliens?
unidentified		No, not aliens.
		The spiritual sources.
		It comes from spiritual knowledge.
		It's been given to mankind.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but it had to get on paper.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Somebody put it on paper, right?
unidentified		Well, yeah, they incarnate.
unidentified		I mean, there are higher spirits.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hey, is this channeled material?
unidentified		No, it is not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's not channeled.
unidentified		No, it is not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, then, how did it get here?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did somebody's cell phone ring or what?
unidentified		No, the being that incarnated on Earth wrote the book.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so this is somebody who just...
unidentified		No, no, incarnated.
		There's only one way to be born on earth, and that's...
		Wow.
		I wouldn't, you know, I wouldn't go that far.
		It's just the.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, all right.
		Well, all right.
		We'll see what we can do with an address.
		And I wish you could have been more specific about your source.
		Just somebody who or a spirit which incarnated.
		Couldn't tell us more.
		East of the Rockies, you're on air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		This is Mike from Cleveland, Ohio.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Mike.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		About global warming.
		It's not happening.
		It's cold up here.
		Yeah.
		When the weather warms up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you're the kind of guy who thinks that because it's cold, how cold is it in Cleveland, by the way?
unidentified		About 17 degrees in the teens.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		17.
		17 degrees.
		That is chilly.
		But you see, just because it's 17 right now in Cleveland, you know, there's a bigger picture going on than that.
		And so I understand that you don't feel real global warming, warm and fuzzy right now.
unidentified		Not warm and fuzzy at all.
unidentified		I'm cold.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But there is a bigger picture out there, buddy.
unidentified		Really?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you really ought to read this article.
unidentified		What's the article about?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What is it about, right?
		It's called The Coming Ice Age.
		And it's right on the front of the website.
unidentified		Very easy to read.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you have a computer?
unidentified		No, I don't have a computer.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You don't have a computer.
unidentified		I'm behind the times, are you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		I might be forced to read this again.
		I didn't want to have to read all this.
unidentified		All right.
unidentified		Okay, I can stand it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You say you can stand it or you can stand it?
unidentified		I can stand it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You can stand it.
		Well, Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute, as well as most of the rest of the world's really top-notch institutes, think that what's about to happen is that the flow of water in the Atlantic, which keeps Europe warm, is going to stop.
		It's actually now begun to slow and is going to stop.
		And when it does, Europe will freeze.
unidentified		Freeze.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		It'll be under a big icicle.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A big icicle, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And that will have some pretty big impact.
unidentified		How are they going to get their crops and oil?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		There you are.
		How are they going to get their crops and oil?
		How are they going to eat and stay warm?
		Well, it's not going to be habitable.
		You see, it's going to actually take parts of continents and make them uninhabitable.
unidentified		Really?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This will have a rather large impact eventually on Cleveland.
unidentified		Help me.
		Help me.
		I'll be six feet under snow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, maybe so.
		And there are many people who cannot think any further than that gentleman, and that is the current temperature outside.
		Trust me when I tell you there is a larger picture, whether it's warm or cool where you are right now, change is inevitable.
		But change on the scale that's being described here is not the same thing as, gee, it's cold out there in Cleveland right now.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		West of the Rockies?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
unidentified		This is Kyle Coleman from Vancouver.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Washington.
unidentified		And I want to know what you think about ARRL licensing proposal for ham radio.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow, there's a jump in topic.
		Okay.
		I am a ham operator, as you know.
		I am W6OBB, old broken bones, and have been since I was like 12.
		Yeah.
		I think that, and so I'm going to lay it on you, and I want to see what you think in the rest of the ham world, too.
		I think that the licensing structure they've set up to have three licenses, that that's okay.
		Yeah, yeah, that's great.
		And the changes they've proposed are okay.
		They don't go far enough.
		The rest of the world right now has eliminated CW as a requirement.
		I'm not bothered by keeping it as a requirement, five words a minute for the extra class license.
		However, I wish the American Radio Relay League, oh Lord, please let them become realistic.
		Any night you care to, sir, I frequent 75 meters a lot.
		Go down, and you see, folks, the handbands are divided up almost in half.
		You know, like half for the people who operate with microphones on, you know, like I'm talking to you right now on a microphone, and the other half who use code, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da.
		That kind of code, right?
		And any given night, you might count five to seven contacts going on on code, and about a million going on on voice.
		So I wish they would, just like the rest of the world out there, allow everybody to, you know, don't outlaw CW, don't outlaw Zyband, let everybody operate everywhere with the digital modes and all.
		Everybody can get along great.
		just open the damn bands and let us be like the rest of the world that would be Oh, yeah.
unidentified		Yeah, that would be great.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, I got to take a break.
		Thank you.
		All right, take care.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know that little technical diatribe I just laid on you there meant nothing to most people, but when provoked, I couldn't resist.
		I couldn't stop myself.
		So there you are.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Yeah, Art.
		My name's Greg.
		Yes.
		Yeah, I'm a technician class ham radio operator as well.
		And I'd like to be able to talk to you sometime.
		I wrote down your call letters, and hopefully I don't have the Morris code in yet, but hopefully someday I'll be able to talk to you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, maybe.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, what's up?
unidentified		Yeah, talking about global warming.
		Yes.
		Yeah, it's going to be really horrible if that happens over there in the United Kingdom and stuff.
		I mean, what's going to happen to our farmers in the Midwest?
		Is anything like that supposed to happen here?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It would affect the entire world.
		The worst effects and the fastest, of course, effects would be on Europe, which would simply freeze.
		But there would be effects without question in Asia.
		The American Southwest could become a dust bowl for decades.
		I mean, it could get really, really rough.
unidentified		Yeah, well, if there's a shortage of food, that's going to be a big problem for everybody.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And the thing is, you see, in this article, they're saying it's already begun, that this current has already begun to slow alarmingly.
		I mean, they're saying the largest, most dramatic oceanic change ever measured in the era of modern instruments.
		You know, this, and that's from you, Woodhole.
		So this is pretty serious stuff, and it's world-changing kind of stuff.
unidentified		Yes, it is.
		Well, God knows all the answers.
		Hopefully he'll take care of us one way or the other.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You think so?
		Well, I hope so.
		Well, I hope so, too.
		But, you know, when you glance back at a lot of stuff that happened while God was around, man-oh, man, civilizations came and went, got wiped out, things erupted, and zillions died.
		And so I guess when you can't say anything else, you can say that.
unidentified		Yeah, but you are correct, though.
unidentified		There is a lot of wars fought over religion.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, religion and oil.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate it.
unidentified		All right.
unidentified		Thank you very much, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're very welcome.
		I appreciate your call.
		Thank you.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Hi, Art.
		Hi.
		Steve here in New Jersey.
		Hey Steve.
		I just wanted to talk to you about this Yes.
		I had noticed for quite a while, and I think it may be resolved.
		I haven't noticed it as much lately, that you were only playing on the air, we were only hearing one channel.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's true of a few of them.
unidentified		Yeah, okay.
unidentified		I've been noticing it less lately.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, that's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Because I recognize it and don't play those that only have one channel.
unidentified		Okay, yeah, that's all I wanted to mention.
unidentified		I had noticed it for a while, and I figured you noticed it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, no, because you see, I heard both channels in the headset.
		Since I've got it in stereo, but apparently somewhere along the line gets broken down.
		Anyway, I appreciate it.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		East of the Rockies, you're on there.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		East of the Rockies?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, you have hum, though.
unidentified		Carl from Cincinnati.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Carl, you have a lot of hum on your line, but what's up?
unidentified		Well, I wanted to back up your almost Darwin winner last hour.
unidentified		On the herd of birds.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, yes.
unidentified		I remember when somebody called in years ago and said he saw a shadow person, and then immediately seemed like Everybody was calling your radio station with these stories of what they were calling shadow people.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		And my girlfriend came over just after that, and I told her the story, and I started laughing.
unidentified		I thought, this is so funny, I can't hardly believe it, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, sure, until you see your first one.
		Right.
		And then it's not quite as hysterical.
unidentified		She looked at me and stared right at me and said, I've seen them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		And she said, I've seen them around your mother.
		I've seen them walk around this house.
		And she says, I've seen small animals, too.
		So anyway, I just read something in your rancha book, and they were talking about midway creatures.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, listen, we're not going to have time for midway creatures.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate very much your call.
unidentified		However, shadow people are real.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Whatever they are, you know, maybe we're over-dramatizing it, but they're real.
unidentified		whatever they are the real I'm happy, so I stay, oh, I'm gonna let the music play.
		Mm-hmm.
		What the people need is a way to make them smile.
		It's a way to do it now.
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		Doesn't let our heart Is never a day And I can't And I can't And I can't So we should that I just can't win Please don't feel why Can I get him?
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		Actually, people's reactions to a story of this magnitude when they read it is interesting all by itself.
		Charles in Lake Willy, is it, South Carolina, says, you know, Art, I think you're placing way too much faith in technology.
		The greatest climate change in the history of modern instruments presumes the accuracy of our scientific instruments is somehow conclusive, which has, even you must admit, is pure BS.
		Well, no, actually, I don't.
		I think our scientific instruments, in terms of, say, measuring the temperature of the current in the Atlantic, probably are pretty good, to be honest with you.
		Or let's see.
		John in Toledo says, our global warming may be occurring, but very little, if any, of it, can be blamed on human activity.
		You know, I'm at the stage, and I have been for a while, where I don't think it matters whether it's human activity or whether it's just a cyclic change, you know, every 13,000 X number of years.
		What difference does it make if our scientists, if you read this article, it's what it says, if our scientists are detecting that there's a massive change in the current in the Atlantic, then it's already underway.
		And there's nothing we can do about it.
		So we should stop arguing about whether the human hand has meaning in all of this or not.
		Or whether it's simply cyclic.
		fact that it's occurring means that we should be concentrating our efforts on what we're going to do about it back now to the chilly waters the unknown waters on-screen calls First time caller line, you're on here.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hey, how you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm doing.
unidentified		I was reading the article that you mentioned earlier about the climate changes due to the Gulf Stream possibly being shut off.
		Yes.
		And I was wondering, and I couldn't find any information on the site, just what type of effect this would have on the North American continent and in particular the United States.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Actually, if you did read all of it, it did mention the American Southwest, I believe.
unidentified		Yeah, something about the drought, yeah.
		But I mean, it wasn't really specific.
		I mean, you know, it didn't really cover.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It did sound like by comparison, the rest of the United States would suffer virtually, you know, well, it didn't say anything, so I would presume it wouldn't suffer very much.
		That would make at least two-thirds of the U.S. okay.
		But that's still no small matter.
unidentified		Right, right.
		And that's a presumption, you know, because they didn't say anything about it doesn't really mean that they're, you know, for example, sir, California is what, 20% of the U.S. economy.
		True.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So if the entire West got in trouble, well, we'd be in trouble.
unidentified		Yeah, we're in trouble already with globalization and jobs being exported overseas and stuff like that.
		You know, That's another thing.
		How would that affect the globalization, the economy?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		toss everything up into the air.
		I mean, there would be...
		I would think Europe would come pouring across our borders as fast as they could.
		Asia would be in trouble.
unidentified		That's how we got here in the first place, isn't it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's really hard to even calculate how big a disruption this would be and what we would do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you think we'd do?
unidentified		I don't know, you know, since something like this hasn't happened in, what, 12,000 years?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		You know, we have no precedent.
unidentified		Yeah, that you couldn't really imagine what the reaction would be.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I wonder about our own, you know, our own government, how they'd react.
		I guess in the beginning stages, we'd probably treat it as sort of a we probably wouldn't believe it, and for a while we would give aid, but there would come a time when we would be totally overwhelmed.
		I mean, you just can't take out a continent like that.
		I just can't imagine.
unidentified		Well, being that with the immigration from the African continent and the Middle East into Europe right now, then you're going to have all those people to deal with too.
unidentified		You know, because there's massive immigration going on right now into Europe.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And the energy issues during all of this disruption.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Holy mackerel.
unidentified		Well, it might bring back the coal industry here in Illinois, huh?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Every last bit of it, I'm sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Well, I was just wondering, you know, because I didn't read anything specific about what the effects would be on the North American continent other than what you mentioned.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, that's right.
		No, otherwise, it doesn't mention anything.
		But, I mean, it would be the whole world.
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		Well, I'd be interested to, you know, hear or see a follow-up on, you know, with more specific data as to what the global effects would be, not just the effects there in Northern Europe.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm sure as others pick this up now, there'll be a lot of interviews.
		I just can't imagine a story of this magnitude with this kind of heavyweight scientific stuff behind it wouldn't get picked up by the big networks.
		But maybe we ought to make a bet on that.
		What do you think?
		Do you think ABC, NBC, CBS, and even CNN will pick it up?
unidentified		You know, 50-50.
unidentified		It depends on what's more important to them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, Michael Jackson, of course.
unidentified		Well, I don't, you know, I'm not in there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate your call, sir.
unidentified		All right, thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right, take care.
		Oh, gee.
		You do have to wonder a little bit, and this will be instructive in terms of watching how the American media either does deal with this or doesn't deal with it at all.
		It is a big story.
		The scientific names are unimpeachable, really.
		And they almost have to talk about it, but will they?
		Wild Cardeline, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
		Yes.
		Yeah.
		This is Esther from New York, and I'm listening on WABC, and I wish you were on Seven Days a Week.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		77.
unidentified		I'm here now.
		A couple of years ago, I read an article in the Reader's Digest called The Only Way Out, and it was about a man escaping from East Berlin.
		And ever since then, I've always felt that to every problem, there has to be a way out.
		So I was sitting here thinking, and I thought of four ideas.
		I don't know how good these are, but I will give them to you.
		The first thing is to send ships to the place where the Gulf Stream is to keep churning the waters.
		The second thing is that South America and Central America should also open its borders.
		The third thing is we should send underground places where people can live because there may be overpopulation.
		This would not work if there was a global warming, but if we have global cooling, it might work.
		And the fourth idea is that since we hopefully have 10 years on this, that we should work on spaceships so we could colonize other planets to escape from what's happening.
		So those are my four ideas.
		I don't know how good they are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, at least they're ideas.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And a lot more people are going to have to start thinking of things.
		I'm not sure you could stir the current enough with ships, so I'm not sure about that one.
		The underground facilities, well, maybe in some parts of the world, if they were to begin now, that might be some kind of option.
		But, I mean, what kind of life could it be under there?
unidentified		Well, better than no life.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No life at all?
unidentified		The Soviet Union did have a lot of air shelters for its citizens during the Cold War.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Mostly those would have been for the military and party elite.
unidentified		Oh, well, we can still help other people here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, anyway, at least you're thinking that's good.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, and take care.
		At least she's thinking about it.
		It's hard to get people to consider.
		It really is, even though here it is in bold print for you to read.
		And again, if you're just joining the program, your best bet by a country mile would be to go and read the article that I have up there for you.
		It's a remarkable article.
		It's at the top of the website.
		It came out, well, I don't know, within an hour, actually, of my going on the air tonight.
		The headline is Global Warming Will Plunge Britain into New Ice Age Within Decades.
		And it kind of gets worse from there.
		I mean, this really is a scary article.
		And the scientists in it are world-renowned scientists.
		You need to read the article.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		This is Morris from Maine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Morris from Maine.
		Yes.
		Welcome.
unidentified		Yeah, I got a couple things to talk about.
		First, to start with the ocean.
		We have the Gulf Stream that comes up and just skins the coast of Maine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And it makes it cold enough so you can go swimming.
unidentified		Cold but bearable.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		And we had Canadians coming down and all to go swimming down there.
		It's an Orchard Beach.
		Right about the beginning of August, at the hottest time of the season, the water became so cold, nobody went in.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
		And the beaches were packed.
		That's a very interesting report.
		You know, that's not the only report like this.
		In fact, there was a report about a similar area, I believe, off the coast of North Carolina and yet another story off the coast of Florida somewhere of all of a sudden these shockingly cold.
		And I really mean, you're right when you say it.
		I think it's ice-cold water where there should have been entirely tolerable water to swim in.
		And I'm talking about ice-cold.
		Really freaky story.
		So you actually experienced it.
unidentified		Oh, yes, I did.
		And I live more inland, mountain area.
		We've had 41 inches of snow in one storm.
		And we had 40 degree below zero in one evening.
		All our pipes froze.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		I got something else to talk about.
		Yes, sir.
		Questions to the audience.
		Maybe they can call in and see if I can relate with them.
		First of all, I know of a few people that have been abducted.
		And we all have a stamp on our shoulder or just behind the neck.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You have such a stamp?
unidentified		It's the size of a quarter.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		It's a series of dots, all perpendicular with each other, probably 16th of an inch apart.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And are you saying that all abductees or most have?
unidentified		No, I know of three people.
unidentified		I haven't really investigated that much yet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Or maybe there's one particular craft that abducts in your particular geographic area, and they brand their abductee.
unidentified		That's what I'm thinking.
		Another thing that's happened, we just moved out here.
		There's, what do you call, a radar site, government.
		And we'd hang out there at night listening to your show.
		Well, one night we lost about an hour and a half.
		The kid in the back seat said there was something behind the truck.
		And I looked in my mirror and I saw some type of shadow.
		I looked behind the truck.
		Nothing's there.
		I says, wow, this is weird.
		I said, just open the doors up, pack with it.
		And we lost like an hour, 20 minutes or so.
		And we all three ended up with an injection.
		And the injection site was a big bump with a bruise around it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, then you were probably abducted.
unidentified		Yep.
		And I've got one other thing to talk about.
		We call it the Lugaroo.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The what?
unidentified		The Lugaroo.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What's that?
unidentified		Teachers have seen it.
		Kids all over have seen it.
		They say it lived under a bridge when I was living in green.
		Okay, now I moved 100 miles north.
		And yet there's still some there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What is it?
unidentified		Well, from what the kids say, it's hairy, long hair, long arms, about four feet tall.
		It's very fast.
		It has run along the side of a car at 50 miles an hour.
		Excuse me, I have a bad cold.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I can hear it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it runs along.
unidentified		It's incredible.
		I can call it.
		You can hear it between 3 and 4 in the morning.
		You can hear it more places where there's more homes.
		And I'm talking suburbs.
		It makes a call.
		If I call it, it comes.
		Not directly to me.
		Sometimes I'll go to my neighbor's house and scare the wits out of them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why would you call such a thing?
unidentified		Oh, they make a call, so I try calling and they come.
unidentified		So I had this industrial photographer come by once with a camera.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Don't tell me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You got a picture of it.
unidentified		Well, now this is a video with night vision and the new technology to look through walls.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you going to?
		It's illegal.
		Well, yes, I would imagine.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		I'm not going to say it's not going to be.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		People really hate the thought that you look at.
unidentified		There's one clip of one of these, and all they had was a silhouette.
unidentified		But this one was as high as the window on my trailer, which is about eight feet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Send me a copy.
unidentified		I'd like to.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Send me a copy.
unidentified		I'm going to be doing a lot of investigating.
unidentified		I'm getting equipment, and I'm done.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, obviously, sir, anything like that, any of you, anybody with video or a photograph of what appears to be a non-human entity of some sort, by all means get it to me.
		Right now, the most convenient way to do so is by email at either one of my two email addresses, artbell at mindspring.com or artbell at aol.com.
		They're both good.
		A-R-T-B-E-L-L lowercase all at mindspring.com or A-O-L.com.
		Welcome to the Rockies.
		You're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		Good morning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning.
unidentified		Rick and Reno, 780KOH.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Been listening for a quarter of a century at least.
unidentified		K-Don, K-D-W-N-720.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And I'd like to speak about a 9-11 case, 9-1-1.
		Former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania Philip J. Berg is suing the Bush administration on behalf of his client, Ellen Mariani.
		And the website, if I may.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I'd rather you don't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't allow websites to be given out on the air because of bad previous experience.
unidentified		Well, folks have access to search engines, and I've given the key names.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There you go.
unidentified		Very good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's it?
unidentified		That's it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, see you later.
		that's right.
		People have search engines.
		International Line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		This is Kyle Colling from London, Ontario.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hey, Kyle.
unidentified		I'd love to share my encounter with a non-human entity.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		Okay.
		This is about the spring of 2001.
		I was lying in bed late in the evening, past 12 midnight, with the lights on, and I opened my eyes to see a solid figure standing in my doorway, about five to six feet tall, in a long black gown, like a graduation kind of gown, look like.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		It had the mask on with like two vertical horns.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Two vertical horns.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now see, right away, horns are bad.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Horns are really bad.
unidentified		It was very ominous.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Yeah, that would be.
		That would say to any human being, devil, evil, foreboding, bad.
unidentified		Bad, bad.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Bad juju.
unidentified		So this thing appeared to me long enough that I could see it and it vanished.
		So I closed my eyes.
		I opened my eyes again.
		It was there again for a second and a half.
		So this occurred about five times.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, well, usually when you close your eyes and or go under the covers, by then it's gone, but this was still there, bad, again.
unidentified		Reappeared about five times.
		Very bad.
		So then I just fell asleep.
		And, you know, I didn't get a bad, disturbing feeling from this entity at all.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, but you see, that is so hard to buy.
		I mean, if I saw something with horns in my door, falling asleep would not be anything that would happen before the sun came up.
		I'm serious.
		If I saw something with horns, I mean, how can you just fall asleep after that?
unidentified		I don't know how I did it, but I'll tell you, to this day, I still sleep with the lights on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But I'd be thinking, I'm going to lose all my blood while I'm asleep or something similar to that.
		I mean, there's no way the average person in my mind could sleep after that.
		Oh, the horn thing's gone.
		Oh, good.
		Well, go to sleep now.
unidentified		I don't know.
		I did it.
		Depend my story.
		I did some short research on it, and I've identified this being called a Skywatcher.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A Skywatcher.
unidentified		Yeah, an entity that, you know, Peter Gabriel of the band Genesis used to dress up as this being.
		And he's actually seen on the cover of the album Genesis Live dressed up as this being.
		So that's kind of a reference point for any audience members to see exactly what I saw.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It looked exactly like on that album, huh?
unidentified		Exactly like.
unidentified		Well, actually, no, the.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Or close enough.
unidentified		Close enough.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, good enough.
		Thank you very much.
		Another encounter with something non-human from the high desert in the middle of the night.
		I'm Mark Bell.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		Rocking the nighttime with some of the news you might not catch on ABC or NBC or CBS or CNN or anything else.
		So Imagine sort of moving along out there in an 18-wheeler at about 65 miles an hour or so in the middle of the night, dark out there, and you're listening to this stuff on the radio.
		First time caller line, you're on here.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello there.
unidentified		My name is Daniel.
unidentified		I'm from Burley, New Mexico.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, Daniel.
unidentified		I have a comment about the Gulf Stream.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		It's only part of a very large current that runs in the ocean.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Yeah, if you shut off the Gulf Stream, which is about what's going to happen, you shut off the rest of these currents as well, which brings cold water up to the equators in the Pacific.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A chain of events would begin, and it would happen.
		They used to think slowly, but now, of course, we know it can happen virtually overnight in even less than 10 years.
		It could, well, there's a quote in here.
		You know, one scientist says, like that, like throwing a switch.
		And once it's thrown, events are going to occur.
		There's nothing we can do to stop them.
		We can perhaps move our crop growing somewhere else and try and do things that'll help the human race along, but there's not a hell of a lot we can do to stop it.
unidentified		Well, not only that, it's going to put the world in enough turmoil at the same time that it's going to be difficult for one nation to help another because they're going to be busy helping themselves.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's exactly the point I was trying to get people to think about at the beginning of the program.
unidentified		We're going to have to invest a good bit of technology.
		Probably they won't do that until this happens.
		And, of course, New England is likely to be part of a glacier as well as part of Europe.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't know.
		Certainly, there could be some pretty big changes in very northern New England, I would think.
		Yes.
		and we could have a great basket it's not producing better anymore that you will yes and that could occur to i mean the scale of what would happen is almost you know it's it's so unthinkable for us maybe that's why most people i don't know they they they almost their head in the sand about this.
		They don't even want to think about it.
		It's just too much.
unidentified		Yeah, we're definitely going to have to make some adaptations, and it's going to be a worldwide type of adaptation.
		So there's going to be some terrible disruptions.
		I believe that it's going to disrupt life as we know it today, for sure.
		I mean, we're not going to have the social order that we believe we have right now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I can't imagine that would hold up, not under that kind of immense worldwide pressure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It would crack.
unidentified		The idea of sitting down and watching TV and seeing a sports game would be out of the question at this period of time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		Our entire understanding of life as it is right now, in 10 years, it's hard to think of it.
		You know, it's hard to think of it, but in 10 years or less, it could all be gone.
		And these would be what would be taught in the history books as good old days, you know, before it happened.
unidentified		Yeah, well, I remember some of the good old days of the past, and they weren't so good old.
		And so I don't know.
		Like I said, it's going to be the lucky few and a lot of adaptation all at the same time.
		Basically, we're going to have to learn to help ourselves.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, then a lot of people are in a lot of trouble.
		I appreciate your call, sir.
		Thank you.
		And take care.
		Yeah, that's somebody who's thinking about it.
		Do you think things could get bad enough that in areas it would simply return to the law of the jungle?
		Or would it, in a more modern day, be more like a sort of a Mad Max scenario?
		Wildcard line, you are on the air.
		Good evening.
unidentified		Good morning, Arnville.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How are you?
		Actually, morning, right.
		Yes, I'm fine.
unidentified		Yeah, well, this is John.
unidentified		I'm over in California City, California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, John.
unidentified		Right on the hill up over Edwards Air Force Base.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Actually, before I get into that real quick, I just wanted to say, you know, I can't remember if it was you or George who said, who reported about 25% of the world's species being gone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That would have been me.
unidentified		Well, it's interesting how these things tie in together.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, in a disturbing way, it is, I suppose.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If you had, of course, a climate change at the pace they're talking about here, it might be a lot more than a quarter of the species.
unidentified		Yeah, that's true.
		Anyway, I've been working out here.
		I'm a security guard out here out in California City, and I sit up on this hill, and I'm like six miles away from the main runway over at Edwards Air Force Base.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That must be interesting duty.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you get to see?
unidentified		Oh, I get to see a lot of stuff.
		And what's interesting about it is there's been a lot of activity going on over there within the past couple weeks.
		Especially a lot of F-117 activity.
		They've been loading up bombs and whatnot.
		And actually, just last night, they loaded up three squadrons, which are like three of three, three groups of three.
		And they took off about 2 o'clock in the morning.
		And normally you can watch them unload stuff if they're just doing practice runs and stuff like that.
		But when they came back, they were empty.
		They didn't unload anything.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No kidding.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Gee, now, where do you suppose those bombs might be?
unidentified		That's what I thought was interesting.
		They've been loading up a lot of cargo planes and a lot of just stuff that's all covered.
		But there's a lot of activity going on over there for some reason.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, something's going on.
		I mean, of course, the war in Iraq's going on.
		All right, thank you very much.
unidentified		Hmm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What to make of that?
		Well, there is a lot of activity going on.
		I wonder, again, I'll go back with respect, for example, to this article.
		I wonder how much the governments know and have discussed privately amongst themselves that we don't yet know or are just finding out about.
		East of the Rockies, you're on air.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, I'm Mitzi in Virginia.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Welcome.
unidentified		Thank you.
		You just mentioned how much does the government know?
		I think Dick Cheney probably knows, at least, with his rattling the windows and his utility upgrades in Washington, D.C. I was curious.
		When you mentioned that this change was going to happen so quickly, it reminded me of something I'd heard earlier that we're about due for another shift in polarity, that the poles need to change pretty soon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That could happen.
		The magnetic north has been wandering.
		It's very, very interesting.
		I think the magnetic pole is headed for western Canada or something.
unidentified		I was wondering if maybe that had an effect on the current or the current may have an effect on that.
unidentified		I don't know if there's a correlation there or anything, but I thought it might be a symptom or something.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I do not know.
unidentified		Also, I have an incubus story.
		Oh.
		Yeah, it's true, and I know it's true because my friend had the same experience the day after I did.
		I woke up with this Max Shrek thing on my back.
		I didn't actually see it, but I knew it was there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This what thing?
unidentified		It looks like Max Shrek Nostrata.
		But I couldn't actually see it, but I knew it was there.
		And it squeaked my eye, I cover my eyes because the sun comes in this little eye mask.
		And it squeaked the band on that, and I just kind of screamed and it disappeared.
		And the next day, well, no, actually the day previous to that, my friend over in England had had a similar experience with something like that.
		And they call it hypnagogic hallucinations.
		the scientists have a name for it, but I don't think it covers the experience at all.
		It's very...
		I think it was a malicious spirit of some kind.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And what do you think would have happened to you had you not been alert?
unidentified		It probably would have come back or if I hadn't become conscious.
		It was like a deep down instinct to get it off, to make it leave and I just kind of...
		Probably something sexual or mess with my spirit, break my spirit in some way.
		I'm not sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		nothing good either way.
unidentified		No, it was a deep down need to get rid of it quickly.
		And the same was true for my friend in England, which, you know, if we do get this Ice Age, I'll invite him over to my house.
		Whether the government wants it or not, he'll come and stay with me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thanks.
unidentified		Thanks a lot.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'll see you later.
		Yes.
		There are so many things in our world that we feel and know and experience personally.
		And we tell others about them, as this young lady just did.
		And I know it's interesting and easy to sit out there and either laugh or sneer, but not once it happens to you.
		What's to the Rockies?
		You're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Hello?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		Hi, how's it going?
		Well, fine.
		And it sounds like you're chuckling on your end, so it must be going well.
		That's quite all right.
unidentified		I was calling on both the spiritual seeing entities and also about the topic of the ice age.
		Yes.
		I have known and felt for many years, I'd say at least the last seven or eight years, that global warming would basically bring about an ice age with just common knowledge.
		I mean, intuitive knowledge, just knowing.
		I think that it's very possible that we're going to see this in the next seven, eight years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I do too.
		I can actually feel it.
		For some time, I've felt it.
		So I will say I was shocked by reading this story, but only because it reminded me of what I already knew in sort of a, you know, it's kind of like you know you're sick, you know something is tragically wrong with you, and you go and you sit down in front of the doctor and he says, I've got bad news for you, you know, right there.
		Kind of that point.
unidentified		Yeah, that's pretty much how I feel about the topic tonight and what I read from the website.
		It's basically something that I think is you reap what you sow kind of thing on a mental level, on a super conscious level, the topics that you guys have been having.
		Yes.
		It's basically, you know, your predictions that you did, all the negativity, and it's kind of what people want, I think.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Boy, it was a negative prediction here, I'll tell you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I took a lot of them, too, a pretty good-sized sample, and it was not good.
unidentified		And then on the spiritual level, I've also always been a very positive person.
		I try to look at the bright side of things, no matter how bad they are.
		And I think that there's...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Then what's the bright side of this article?
unidentified		Well, the bright side is that basically it's going to quiet the earth.
		It's going to quiet down the crying and whining.
		And it's going to take the people that want to survive.
		The people that want to survive will survive.
		And the people that want to worry and scurry along and fight for food.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So we could think of it as the Grand Darwin Challenge.
unidentified		That's an excellent way of putting it.
		That's exactly how I put it.
		And then I have a question for the listeners.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		See, we can actually laugh about everything, folks.
unidentified		Yeah, it's a beautiful world.
		Just wake up.
		The thing also that I wanted to ask the listeners is that I had an experience last year on a camping trip with a few of my friends where I it's hard to explain.
		I wasn't exactly channeling or having something speak through me.
		I felt as though I was speaking for myself.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		But I called myself the line.
		I said the line.
		As in like I'm drawing the line in the sand.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		Yeah, and the experience was very strange.
		And I'm just wondering if there's anybody else out there that maybe have had that experience where they have called themselves the circle or the line because there was also another friend there that called himself the circle.
		And I'm not into witchcraft.
		I'm not into any of these things.
		I'm just a very spiritual, happy-go-lucky person.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And just you and your happy-go-lucky partner decided to call each other the line and the circle?
unidentified		Well, actually, I just met this guy.
unidentified		He came out on the camping trip and he was a friend of one of my friends.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you said, hi, I'm the lion.
		And he said, glad to meet you.
		I'm the circle.
unidentified		Actually, it was in the middle of the night around the campfire.
		And I started, you know, pretty much doing the thing that I wish people wouldn't do, which was crying and feeling sorry for the earth and saying, why are people so greedy?
		And why are people so selfish?
		And why don't they just open their minds?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you were wallowing in world pity.
unidentified		Absolutely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And I don't do it very often.
		And I said, I'm the line.
		And I said, this is going to stop here.
		This is going to stop now.
		And who knows?
		Maybe my conscious thought is helping the unfortunate happenings to come about.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Perhaps so.
		And maybe the thing that we discussed last night.
		Do you remember I once said that the only circumstance under which I would consider the use of this power, whatever it is, this mass consciousness thing, that we've discovered basically on this program, thank you very much, would be something as catastrophic, perhaps, as what's being described in this article.
		And I'm not saying right now to you that I'm advocating its use for that, but this would be in the class that I would consider it for.
		I mean, at some point, what have you got to lose?
		And if something this catastrophic is really on the way, then it may be in order that a worldwide effort at changing it would be in order.
		Hi, International Line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi, Mr. Bell.
unidentified		It's Sheila calling from Ontario.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Ontario.
unidentified		It's very cold here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is it?
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		Oh, I'm listening to CJBK 1290.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, good.
unidentified		I wanted to comment on the weather conditions, and I'm wondering, probably a lot of people like myself are meditating on healing the earth.
		I'm wondering if this is part of the healing.
		Are we careful?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, you see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ah, bingo, my dear.
unidentified		You know what I mean?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I do.
unidentified		Be careful what you wish for.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, yes, yes, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		One might wish for the healing of the earth, but that very process, for example, might mean wiping half of it out first.
unidentified		Exactly.
		Exactly.
		We are so unkind.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's what I mean about this power.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I was telling my guest last night, not fully comprehending the, quote, laws of nature.
unidentified		Oh, exactly.
unidentified		I was right with you when you were saying that you were afraid to use it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, because we don't understand the laws of nature, whatever they may be.
unidentified		Exactly.
		I also have a comment about something you said previously.
		You were talking about whether people would stick their head in the sand or whatever.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Only many will.
unidentified		Well, I just wanted to say I remember a rather infamous radio show host a few weeks ago saying he would rather stick his head in the sand and die twitching than give up beef.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, that would have been me.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That would have been me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's quite true.
unidentified		You can understand how people would rather just sort of, I don't want to know, I'm just going to carry on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you mean my continual eating a burger stew?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes, yes, yes.
unidentified		I lost my butt off when I heard that.
unidentified		I really did because I like beef stew.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it would be the end of life as we know it.
unidentified		Well, there's organic, and I'm thinking about going there organic.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I lived in Japan for a lot of years, and you know what they've got over there that'll really make you sick?
unidentified		What?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They've got burgers, and they've even got, like, you look in a shop, and they've got chocolate cake, right?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God, does it look good?
		It looks like the best chocolate cake with chocolate frosting.
		It looks delicious.
		And they always put them in the windows in Japan.
		That's how they do it.
		And so you go and you get a piece of it, you know, and they put it on a plate for you, and you go out and you eat it, and you bite into this chocolate cake.
		And you know what it is?
unidentified		It's fake.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's soy.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's soy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And your mouth is ready for chocolate, and you got soy.
unidentified		And yuck!
unidentified		I also love chocolate.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, try and imagine having your mouth and your taste buds and your tongue ready for chocolate, and you bite that, and it's soy.
unidentified		I think I'd hurl.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
unidentified		But organic is actually supposed to taste better like meat used to taste.
		Supposedly.
		I'm not talking about soy.
		I'm talking about organically grain-fed beef that are slaughtered nicely and aren't fed, you know, byproducts and PCs, blah, blah, blah.
		I don't know.
		I'm not giving up burgers.
		Nor am I. But I don't want to die twitching either.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, look, obviously I was dramatically exaggerating.
		I suppose if, you know, something really awful happened and beef really became unedible, then life would go on.
		It just wouldn't be the same anymore.
unidentified		No, it would not.
unidentified		I agree.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Restaurants would change.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The entire restaurant experience would change.
unidentified		We'd all live longer and we'd overpopulate even more.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We'd do nothing but sit around and eat lima beans and peas and scowl at each other.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, look, I got to go.
		We're at the top of the hour.
unidentified		Thank you very much.
		You have a good morning.
		And the very same to you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Lima beans, the foulest vegetable on earth.
		The texture, the smell, the very sight, the color.
		Everything about a lima bean is foul.
		Could the world be reduced to lima beans and peas and stuff like that?
unidentified		Not my world.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sometimes you're just in a Layla kind of mood.
		It is a kind of mood.
		This music.
unidentified		You just kind of close your eyes and roll with it a little bit, sort of just creates a mood all of its own.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The Layla mood.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We'll be right back.
unidentified		music
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, this is sweet.
		Stephen in Well Fleet, Massachusetts says, hey, Art, Art Bell.
		I can only hope it gets as cold no matter where you are as it is here in New England.
		Sincerely, Stephen.
		Well, it's cold here now, laugh as you will, but it's currently 26.2 degrees, so that's pretty chilly for the desert.
unidentified		Even for the desert, pretty chilly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thanks, Stephen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Hi, this is Doug.
		I'm calling from Canada on Vancouver Island.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Doug.
unidentified		I listen on CFACS 1070 in Victoria.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, of course.
unidentified		That's where we are.
		What I think is happening, and I think I read somewhere, either Scientific American or I saw it on PBS, that the Earth's magnetic field is reversing itself slowly.
		And we're in the process of that transition.
		And it's happened time after time, but this is the first time we're probably going to be able to experience it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, the magnetic pole is wandering, but there's no sign yet that it's going to flip.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That would be very unsettling and would bring with it a lot of undesirable things.
unidentified		Because some scientists have said that because it's slowing down, the whole magnetosphere is slowing down, that things are happening, you know, like with the poles, the ozone layers.
unidentified		I think the solar activity, the increased solar activity, we're seeing more of it, I guess, bombard Earth because the magnetosphere can't protect us like it used to.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, honestly, until it reverses itself.
		You know, it could be any of this.
		I mean, let's face it, we don't really understand all the dynamics at work here by even a little.
		I mean, we really don't.
		We don't understand what's driving our climate change.
		Not really.
		Hand to man, normal cycles, planetary influences, volcanoes, who the hell knows.
		But it's happening.
unidentified		Well, there's a fossilized record even in northern Canada where there's tropical fossil fuels.
		Absolutely.
		And so it's happened over and over again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Over and over again.
		Now, there's quite a bit of evidence, if you read this article, that it's happening now.
		That we're about to go through the throw the switch phase, and boom, it's going to change like that.
unidentified		And that throwing of the switch phase reminded me of a study of rocks magnetic during the last, I guess, full reversal.
unidentified		That it happened virtually within months.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Millions of years from now, they will not dig up Art Bell frozen in place with lima beans in his mouth, I guarantee.
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But yes, anyway, it's happening, and I don't know.
		We're going to have to make, adapt, you know, we're humans, and we need to use our intelligence to recognize what's going on and adapt.
		Otherwise, I guess we don't deserve to continue.
unidentified		Well, that's called evolution.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, yes, yes.
		So that's what I've been calling for, whether it's the hand-to-man or just cycles or whatever is driving this, since we don't fully, I think we agree, understand the dynamics at work here.
		And if we do, it's to a small degree, but it is occurring, and so we must prepare.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		Mr. Bell?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That would be me.
unidentified		Yes, that's Tom from the Bronx here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hey, Tom.
unidentified		And I have this to say, that I have a wild theory that maybe in this magnetism, like a planet like Mars, maybe the magnetism goes out that far, you know, and maybe we'll be sucked up to where Mars is, and Mars may come down to where we are in our orbit, and they'll come to life, and we'll go cold dead.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That would be unpleasant.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, why would you think that the orbits of Mars and the Earth would reverse themselves?
unidentified		Well, maybe it has to do with magnetism.
unidentified		Maybe it happens with all the planets.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But it doesn't seem to.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We watch them on a regular basis, and they rarely swap places relative to what they're in orbit about.
unidentified		But have they swapped places?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, I mean, something happened to Mars.
		I can give you that.
		I mean, you've been millions of years ago.
		Yes, Mars had an atmosphere and water and all the rest of that sort of thing we now know.
		So something very, very drastic occurred on Mars.
		I mean, even more drastic than we're contemplating might occur in this article, bad as it is.
		We're talking about an entire planetary atmosphere being stripped of the water, if it exists now, only underground.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello, Isabelle?
		Yes.
		Yes.
		My name is Gloria.
		I'm calling from Milwaukee.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Gloria.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		Now, I wanted to ask you, a few months ago, they were discussing this on Mr. Norrie's show, that they sent a Galilean space probe with 48 pounds of plutonium to crash into Jupiter.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Now, that sounds very dangerous to be champering.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Only if you're walking around on Jupiter.
unidentified		What was the purpose of it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And then if it were to come down on you, it would be very dangerous.
unidentified		Well, what was the purpose Of it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, basically, they just allowed it to disperse in Jupiter's atmosphere.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know there were those who said that as in 2010, there would be some monstrous explosion and another sun would be born.
unidentified		If I may say one last thing, please.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wasn't that right?
unidentified		Yes, you're right.
		I appreciate it.
		It says five places in the Bible, even Christ said it, that there's going to be a tribulation period, but the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars that fall from heaven, and the powers of the heaven shall be shaken before the Lord appears.
		And I think this is dangerous to be tampering with the planets.
		It's like building a, and it says that, by the way, five places in the Bible.
		Peter said it.
		It's in the book of Revelation.
		It's in the Old Testament.
		Joel, the prophet, said it, and I believe Isaiah said it, too.
		And I think it's very dangerous to be tampering with the, it's like building a Tower of Babel.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm not so sure that we can tamper with it.
		It may be way beyond our ability to tamper.
		There are many things we can tamper with, but the dynamics that are driving all of this, I think, are probably beyond us.
		But what do I know?
		Maybe they have some secret Tesla technology that will pull our fat out of the fire.
		I just, I rather doubt that.
		Wester the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Art.
unidentified		How you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm doing okay.
unidentified		You don't like limo beans, huh?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not at all.
unidentified		This one worse is called wax beans.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, we had a rule in our house that you never got to dessert unless you cleaned up everything on your plate.
		So I used to eat those damn things.
		You know how I did it?
		I had a glass of milk, right, at every meal, of course.
		And so I would eat like one lime of bean at a time and wash it down with milk like a pill.
		You know, I'd never chew it.
unidentified		Can't blame you there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It was good dessert.
unidentified		Mr. Randall up in Reno.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		I'm thinking, instead of everybody worrying about what's going to happen, if it doesn't turn out very badly for us, why don't we think of now doing some hydroponic farming, vacuum-sealing food supplies?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Those are some good ideas.
unidentified		And I would think that we would live a lot longer, those who do survive, if we did do these things.
unidentified		And we think about it now instead of when it's last minute.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, if this is, I mean, these are really good scientists announcing all of this.
		Now, if this is true, you would think that this would be a worldwide story, and there would be immediate international action to do something about all of this, as in getting ourselves ready for it.
		That's what I mean when I say do something.
		So what do you think?
		Will that happen?
		Or will this story be buried like some little tiny story on page 94 of the New York whatever?
unidentified		Well, I believe that the government's got a lot of suppression on the news agencies these days, and I don't think they're going to let a story like that loose.
		They're afraid of mass hysteria.
		And I had a couple of questions as well.
		I was wondering if you might go to the Nexus convention over in Amsterdam.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Whether I might go to Amsterdam?
		Well, it sounds like a fun trip, but...
		Amsterdam actually sounds like fun.
unidentified		It does.
		I'm thinking about going myself.
		It's in March 27, 28.
		And a final question, a little bit on the humorous side.
		What do you think all the millionaires are going to do without all their luxuries and fancy automobiles if this happens?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I wonder.
		Well, okay, thank you.
		it makes me wonder about the whole whole social set up and how you know whether the rich for example will be able to insulate themselves in some way perhaps in some parts of the world or whether it will get to a point where money doesn't really mean anything or how far something like this could as
		I mean, the implications of Europe freezing are pretty severe when you think about it.
		If you really sit down and give this a little bit of thought, what they're suggesting is probably about to occur here or already has begun would change everything we know about the world.
		Everything.
		In every one of those towns that you're in.
		Even if you didn't sound like you were in the immediately affected area, international line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Yes, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Second time in 17 years I got through.
		Anyway, we wanted to talk about this effect with regards to the Gulf Stream.
		I'm amazed.
		Right away I thought that there must be something very active happening in the deep parts of our planet to have some kind of effect like this.
		And then when you mentioned, or another person on the program later mentioned the magnetic field shifting, that kind of confirmed the feeling that I had that we've got some big stuff happening deep down there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well now, wait a minute.
		Our magnetic field has been oscillating.
		And it does normally.
		It's oscillated an awful lot more than normal.
		It really has.
unidentified		That's what I meant, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But it hasn't flipped, and there's a big difference.
unidentified		No, no, I didn't say flip.
		It shifted.
		But the second thing I wanted to mention very quickly was I read a really good article by Whitley Striever on UFO secrecy in a brand new magazine called Phenomena, which I picked up the November-December issue, first issue.
		And it was a wonderful article, and I wanted to mention that to people because it's a new magazine, and it was by Whitley, and I very, very much enjoyed it, and it was quite frank and straightforward about this UFO secret policy that both the U.S. and other governments have.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I appreciate the call and the plug for Whitley and apparently the new magazine.
unidentified		Hmm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
		Yes.
		Well, you know, there's a flip side to, you know, having glaciers come down to the Northern California border.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, what would that be?
unidentified		Well, the Flip side is that places like the African Sahara and the Middle East will turn more temperate and actually become breadbaskets.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, uh-huh.
		Well, okay, that would mean that the Middle East then not only would have all of most of the world's remaining oil reserves, but they'd have the food too.
		Now, let me think about whether that's cool.
unidentified		And is that biblically important?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, again, let me think about whether that's cool from America's point of view.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Probably not, sir.
unidentified		Probably not as good.
		You know, but the Canadians live with a lot of snow.
		I think we could do it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You think so?
unidentified		Yeah, I think we could.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, again, though, something this disruptive to the rest of the world would have a gigantic impact on the U.S. Oh, yeah.
unidentified		I don't know if we'd remain a world superpower.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, maybe we would.
		And now, why do I say that?
		Well, because an earlier caller was right, and, you know, one of the unaffected areas is, or would seem to be, by lack of mention, and maybe I'm wrong about this, but they did mention the American West and Southwest areas would go into a severe drought, but that's not nearly so dramatic or serious as what would happen in Europe and apparently Asia and other parts of the world.
		So that would leave a good two-thirds of the U.S. relatively unscathed in the temporary sense.
		So one could imagine that things would continue with some remaining civilization in two-thirds of our country if all of this came true.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, my name is Joe.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hey, Joe.
unidentified		How are you doing?
unidentified		I have a theory about the polar shifting.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		What if it's affected externally by the position that our solar system is in the Milky Way?
		And if our solar system spins with the Milky Way and it's in a certain position every 10,000, 20,000 years, then maybe it's a normal cycle that we can't control.
		And I wonder if the polarity of the different planets in our solar system are affected the same way as ours is being affected now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		That's pretty far out on a what-if-limb or here's what it might be limb.
		But you really can't dismiss anything because we don't understand the dynamics that drive things of this magnitude.
		We don't control them.
		We don't understand them.
		And we really don't understand what drives them.
		You know, there are some things we can know and measure, like the salinity levels and the fresh water and the cold water, and we know what certain waters accomplish.
		But beyond that, what causes them to change, we don't have the slightest idea.
		We have no idea.
		None.
		It's all a guess.
		International Line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
		Hello.
		Going once, going twice.
		Are you there?
		Guess not.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
		Turn your radio off, please.
unidentified		Okay, here you go.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, where are you, sir?
unidentified		I am from Missoula, Montana.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Missoula.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, welcome.
unidentified		I have a story about, well, something me and my friends saw out here in Missoula that we don't really think was human.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Something, did you say you shot?
unidentified		No, not saw.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, something you saw?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, what?
unidentified		So me and my friend, it was a really huge thunderstorm out here that started all the fires on August 7th this year in 2013.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I certainly recall the stories, yes.
unidentified		Yeah, and so after the storm started to clear up, it turned into a really beautiful, starry night.
unidentified		So we went up to the top of this hill to start looking at the stars.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And we came to the end of a street, and we parked our car, went out and started looking around at the stars, and there's a big gully with sort of prairie-like, but there's a spotted, there's like one tree.
		And I go over to look over across the valley, and it's hard to explain, but like a blue light scanned me from down in the gully, and I could hear clicking noises.
		And I've hunted and fished and stuff like that, and I have heard nothing like this ever.
		And I freaked out and went by the car, and my friend went over to go look at it, and I remember seeing the blue light scan him again, and he's a really stout Christian.
		And he ran the car, and we drove off, and we went to a place and just sat there.
		And he said he was never, ever going to believe anything that the church told him again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why?
unidentified		Because he wouldn't even tell me what he saw.
unidentified		It was really eerie.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm trying to imagine what anybody could suddenly see that would immediately destroy all of their faith.
		Everything the church had ever told them, everything they'd ever read in the Bible, that kind of thing, to destroy that kind of belief system with, as they say, just one look.
		That's pretty hard to believe.
unidentified		Yeah, that's what I thought, but it was really weird.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Tell your friend to call me.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Take care.
		We'll have to ask him that question.
		All right.
		We're in open lines, and that's where we're going to remain.
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		anything you want to talk about fair game all night long more of it directly ahead Back into the world of the unknown.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hello, Art.
		This is Will calling to you from Virginia.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, hi, Will.
unidentified		Hey, you know, most of the salient features of your topic tonight have been covered.
		And I agree that the situation would be completely untenable worldwide.
		And you would have a mass exodus from the upper continents or wherever this is going to occur to the lower regions or the lower latitudes.
		Now, you know, the areas that are agro and energy friendly as this scenario unfolds are going to be target areas for most of the world.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You better believe it.
unidentified		Right.
		Now, here in America, as the situation I assume would become untenable, you were talking about the Southwest there.
		I believe that our military would begin to move into those areas.
		And I think that they would do so fairly rapidly because you have other powers that would be thinking the same thing.
		If we don't move now, then somebody else is going to get there first.
		And right now, we are the foremost military power in the world.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		By the way, and of course we are, gee we're in Iraq.
unidentified		No doubt.
unidentified		And it seems like we're going energy hunting maybe right now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You think that could be?
unidentified		No, it's a possibility.
unidentified		And you were talking about terrorism.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We don't seem to have found those cotton picking weapons of mass destruction.
unidentified		There are none.
unidentified		That's my personal opinion.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There may not be.
unidentified		You know, that's just me.
		But, you know, as we begin to move about, as that scenario begins to unfold, if there is any upsurge in terrorism because of that, it would be to upset the geopolitics of the scenario itself.
		You know, as other people may begin to use diplomacy to try to work things out, you may see terrorism begin to manifest itself to disrupt that and swing it one way or the other.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Young, this whole thing is really something.
		And again, let me run this one by you.
		I'm really curious about this.
		I mean, the magnitude of this story, of course, is incredible.
		Do you think that the rest of the media, you know, I mean, this already is a lot.
		It's, you know, big in Britain right now, obviously, just breaking tonight.
		But do you think the rest of the world will assimilate this and run stories on it?
		Do you think this will become a mass media item or do you think it'll be buried?
unidentified		I believe it may be buried.
		It may be buried because, you know, you've had so many different shows about population control and those that want the population down to, I forget the number you had stated, but it was very low.
		And as a scenario like that unfolds, those entities, wherever they may be, may be saying, hey, let's get all our affairs in order.
		You guys talk about the underground tunneling and so forth.
		They may be tooling up for that already.
		And the media, you know how it is in the media.
		Today's media is only interested in what's current and what's in vogue.
		This is a serious story, but like your previous callers have stated, it's not Michael Jackson.
		It's not Britney Spears.
		This is deadly serious, but I still believe it will be buried.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Britney Spears.
		All right.
		Thank you very much.
		And take care.
		And he could be correct, of course.
		Even a story of this magnitude, there it is.
		Go read it yourself.
		Got it on the website an hour before air.
		Read it yourself.
		The magnitude of it is incredible.
		The people and scientists involved are unimpeachable.
		Really, they are.
		As they go.
		And the news is totally dire.
		Now, what do you think the nation's big media will do?
		We'll all have fun watching this.
		I'm telling you, it's classic stuff.
		Absolutely classic.
		Tremendous story.
		And again, what do you think the nation's major media will do?
		Will CNN cover it?
		And then not the other networks.
		Will the other networks gather it together and say, oh, this is a big story?
		Wait a minute.
		Let's put this ahead of Jennifer.
		Wildguard Line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		Hey, good morning, Anart.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning, sir.
unidentified		This is Vince calling you from snowy frozen Denver, listening to you on KHOW.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Welcome.
unidentified		Thank you.
unidentified		Before I get to my subject, I just want to say as far as European continent freezing over, if that happens.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Yeah, well, let them eat cake.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let them eat cake.
unidentified		Yeah, I don't have any use for the whole lot of them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there will be that attitude.
unidentified		They gave us two world wars and then spineless self-serving socialism.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let them eat cake with frosting.
unidentified		Lots and lots of frosting.
		Gosh, man.
		What I call mainly about is Aurora Project.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The Aurora Project, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That aircraft we don't have, which we do, of course.
unidentified		Yeah, now, I was talking to an airline pilot, a captain at Denver Airport, and he said that he'd been in the Air Force, and I was asking about that.
		What is it?
		And I didn't even know what it was.
		He just said it was an airplane that can do some pretty amazing things.
		And I wondered if you knew more, if there's any update on it.
		Is it in production?
		Is it being used by the airplane?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I hear it's flying.
		I have friends who claim to see the Aurora on a pretty regular basis now.
		I hear it's flying out of California.
unidentified		And what can it do that's so amazing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, if we knew that, they'd have to kill us.
		I have no idea.
		Just, you know, I guess Mach 7, Mach Better Than 7, I don't know.
		Amazing things covers it very well.
unidentified		Does it fly like in the stratosphere up there?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I believe, yes, it is sort of a suborbital type deal.
		But, hey, I'm just guessing.
		And things I've heard.
		I really don't know.
		It's a secret project, still secret project.
		And they don't, believe me, they don't give you the performance characteristics of aircraft like the Aurora.
		You eventually get them, but there is lots and lots of aircraft we don't know.
		We only know what they can do, right?
		We know sort of vague stats, but they never tell us everything about the B-2 or the 117 or, you know, we don't know all about that, do we?
		We're not meant to.
		Western the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
		It's good to talk to you.
		You sound great.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		Which means your back is better, and I'm glad for that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		My back is better because I lost weight.
unidentified		Ah, that's wonderful.
		That's my goal.
		I'm calling with regard to all of this.
		I look at it sort of like frames of a film, and I think we've got to look in between the frames.
		I think there's the possibility of financial collapse and other collapses happening in the midst of all this.
		And the last caller brought up a really interesting point that I hit that I thought about, and that's black ops.
		If all these things do start happening, and the last thing we need to consider is whether or not we're going to take other populations because there could be corporate collapses and gold standards going up and other things going on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All of that is correct and more.
unidentified		Yeah, what role would black ops play in controlling the population?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A big one.
		A really big one.
		This would be a world-changing event.
		So I don't know how much would change.
		I don't know how our form of government would withstand an economic total dump of the kind we could have.
unidentified		I don't know.
		I also, with regard to your beginning question, I think that this kind of a thing, this kind of a problem is just like seismic denial with earthquakes.
		I think it would be buried.
		No one would want to talk about it because no one would dare be able to face the consequences.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it is so scary that I can see them making that choice.
		I really can.
		And I think what we observe in the media in the next days and weeks will tell us which it is.
		Because, you know, if they ignore this, then we know what's going on.
unidentified		Well, there's a presidential election coming up.
		They're going to ignore everything to make money on commercials for the presidential election.
		Take care, Arnold.
		It's good to talk to you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
		Well, I'm telling you, that's going to be one of the more interesting aspects of the magnitude of this article.
		It's going to be watching the mainstream media to see what they do and how they handle it.
		And I wonder to what degree that decision is made by those other than at the network level.
		International Line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Good morning.
		I'm calling from Baja, Mexico.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, down in Mexico.
unidentified		Cool.
		Absolutely.
		I love your program.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		I was struck when you mentioned the Woods Hole announcement that by the seemingly prophetic fiction, for example, of Jules Verne.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And it reminded me of an American author whose name, I apologize, I can't remember, wrote two volumes about this exact occurrence, although he attributes it to a different cause.
		One of the books, if anyone were interested in reading possible methodologies for ameliorating the problem, is the second was Empire of Ice.
		I believe the first was Cold Sea Rising.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What were some of the suggestions for in some way lessening the problem?
unidentified		One of the things he suggested was geothermals, using geothermals as an energy source.
		Another was sort of plexiglass micro-environments under domes.
		Well, geodesic rather than having cities, each of these would hold approximately a quarter of a million people.
		And the logistics of this is incredible.
		And having been told many times people hate to have to think for any length of time, I think perhaps that might be an explanation as why people are having some trouble facing this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, these are the kinds of things, though, that I really believe we've got to start thinking about.
unidentified		I agree.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If we know that switch has been thrown and Europe is about to go into the deep freeze, then it would so disrupt the world that if we didn't do something to lessen it, something of that magnitude or whatever, I'm even happy to hear about that suggestion, then we doom ourselves.
unidentified		The other thing that had occurred to me is perhaps we need something on the scale of an animal slash human sperm slash ova bank kind of a thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sort of a modern cryogenic Noah's Ark.
unidentified		Wonderful, exactly.
		Yes.
		The other question I had for you, and I must have missed it, where was the Woods Hole announcement made originally?
		You were talking about mass media response.
		Was it a journal article of some sort?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm reading to you what I did read.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you hear me read it, by the way?
unidentified		No, I did not.
unidentified		There's an article.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		January 25th, 2004, today, Global Warming Will Plunge Britain into New Ice Age Within Decades.
		And some of the quotes in it make that sound like nothing.
		I mean, it's an amazing, scary article, and we've got it up on the website at coasttacoastam.com right now, a link right there in the middle of the page.
unidentified		But the original source was?
		The reason I ask it that way was I know that it takes quite a while for journal articles, for example, to come to print.
		And it occurs to me that if Woods Hole knows this, then surely the American political establishment government.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, again, Woods Hole said the development described as, quote, their words, the largest and most dramatic oceanic change ever measured in the era of modern instruments.
unidentified		Exactly.
unidentified		Well, I'm just thinking that, yes, if this were known to the government prior to the announcement, then surely we might be able to back engineer what's been going on in terms of actions taken by our government.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I have no way of knowing, for example, how long they've known these new figures.
		And I just have no way of knowing.
		You're right about that.
		I mean, there could have been consideration going on for some time now.
		How do you think?
		I'll ask you two, because it's really a cool question.
		Now that this is out, how do you think the mass media will or won't deal with it?
unidentified		I come up short there.
		I apologize.
		I used to think I understood that the media was there to make sure that the public were informed, and I'm beginning to wonder if that's or informed with the truth.
		We need to make intelligent decisions about ourselves and our lives and the world.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, ma'am.
		Well, yes, ma'am.
		Right.
		So, I mean, this is a really serious, worldwide impact, Wowzer kind of story.
		And so will they do this or will we see more Jennifer and whatever all the media is doing right now?
unidentified		Depending on the seriousness of the paper, of the media itself, I think they will address the issue.
		Maybe it will be on page 13, but I think that it may well surface.
		There might be enough concern, interest, debate on the topic so that people who are in the scientific and engineering and people who are concerned about agribusiness in one way or another and let it be known that the listeners of this program are going to be watching.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Indeed.
unidentified		We will.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate your call.
		And whether they do or don't will tell us so much about how things are done, won't it?
		This is one of those rare opportunities when, boom, there it is.
		Now we can watch the media response to it or lack of and make certain judgments based on that.
		What's to the Rockies?
		You're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Hi, Art.
		This is Brennan, calling from Kenai, Alaska.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, hi there.
unidentified		Hi, I have a couple of quick comments and then a real quick theory.
unidentified		Sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		First of all, I'm the one that, a short while ago back, I drew the drawing of George and I. Okay.
unidentified		And I'm looking at the one I just drew of you that finished a short while ago, and I'm going to send it into you guys.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, thank you, I think.
unidentified		And my other comment was on the question of the night.
		Yes.
		I think that if that happened to the European continent, I think that the United States would, I think they'd do something sort of like what they did in the movie Deep Impact.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Where they'd randomly select certain people to come over to the United States.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There'd be some sort of, let's see, if I can remember Deep Impact correctly, there was a selection board that met and decided who was worthy in a certain age bracket and who wasn't.
		And there were some exceptions for really brilliant people.
		And I don't know.
		You know, they made it ethically the best scientists, the best minds, the best this and That, right?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You think we'd do that?
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		I think they'd do something like that or something of that sort.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And then let the rest of Europe freeze like a giant popsicle.
unidentified		I don't see it.
unidentified		Well, I don't think that the United States would allow everybody from the European continent to come over.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I doubt that, too.
		Although, certainly, to some degree, we would have to open our borders.
		And you think we'd do it by committee, kind of?
		Oh, geez.
		Pretty terrible.
		Well, okay, you are the last one to get a shot at this.
		This is a big bombshell kind of article.
		Do you think the American media will pick up on this and we'll see big stories later in the day today?
		It'll just flash around the world, or do you think it'll be buried like some old newspaper?
unidentified		I don't think it's going to be released anytime soon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		I don't think so.
unidentified		I don't think the American government wants to start a panic.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you believe the American government can control the American media to that degree?
unidentified		Well, as far as money goes, I think so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, okay.
		Well, that'll have to be the last word.
		That's it.
		I really enjoyed the open lines.
		Tonight was a blast.
		From the high desert, I'm Art Bell here in the southwest part of the U.S. Good night in the desert.
		Good night, all.
unidentified		Shooting stars across the sky.
		This magical journey will take us on a ride.
		You put the longing, searching for the truth.
		Will we make it to tomorrow?
		Will the sun shine on you?

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