Art Bell’s Open Lines episode blends a 2004 Woods Hole study warning global warming could collapse the Gulf Stream, plunging Britain into sub-zero temperatures within decades, with callers debating survival strategies—hydroponics, border wars, and resource conflicts. Some link climate shifts to magnetic pole reversals or solar cycles, while others recount eerie encounters like blue lights during storms or "Lugaroo" sightings. Bell dismisses fringe theories but underscores the potential for societal collapse if governments suppress warnings, prioritizing trivial media over existential threats. [Automatically generated summary]
Hi Desert and the Great American Southwest, good evening, good morning, good afternoon, wherever you may be in the world's living time, covering all of them with this program.
We are post-post AM on Market L. And I'm gonna tell you the hair on the back of my neck is standing up right now.
And that doesn't happen easily.
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I don't do a lot of strange things for a lot of years.
That doesn't happen easily, and I'll tell you all about that in a second.
But tonight, we would do open lines on my one, something I haven't done in a very long time.
And for that end, I will donate one line, what is usually the first time color line.
That would be your code 7757271222 to the.
What shall we call it?
The non-human entity encounter line.
That would cover a lot of territory, including abductions, of course.
That's exactly what I mean, the non-human encounter line.
Those of you out there who really have encountered a non-human entity of any kind under any circumstance.
But I have a feeling that the show may take a different direction.
Let us first review the news, such as it is this evening.
U.S. intelligence agencies need to explain why their research indicated that Iraq possessed banned weapons before the American-led invasion, says the outgoing top U.S. inspector, who now believes Saddam Hussein had new such arms.
Quote, I don't think they exist, end quote.
That's David Kaye on Sunday, the fact that we found so far the weapons just don't exist.
We've got to deal with that difference and understand why.
So he's essentially saying to Washington, you really need to explain this.
We went to war over this, and they don't seem to be here.
This does require a public explanation.
An Iraqi U.S. helicopter crashed in the Tigris River while searching for a missing soldier on Sunday.
The Aircraft II crew members were missing.
Didn't say what caused the crash of the OH-58D Warrior helicopter attached to the 101st Airborne Division.
The rover, NASA's Opportunity rover, that is, zipped its first pictures of Mars to Earth on Sunday, delighting and puzzling scientists just hours after the spacecraft bounced to a landing.
The pictures show a surface smooth and dark red in some places and strewn with fragmented slabs of light bedrock in others.
Bounce marks left by the rover's airbags when it landed were clearly visible in the pictures.
This one should raise your hackles a little.
Thai boy dies as bird flu hits Indonesia.
Hundreds of soldiers wearing safety masks, rubber gloves, and protective caps fanned out across a central Thai province Sunday on a mission to bury chickens believed to be carrying the bird flu.
A six-year-old Thai boy died of the disease late Sunday, becoming the country's first confirmed human fatality as the World Health Organization warned the virus could be resistant to basic human influenza drugs.
That's scary stuff.
Barbara Walters, stepping down from 2020, said she'll step down this fall as host of that news magazine program.
Walters74 will do about six interview specials a year for ABC, including her pre-Oscar show.
But away from 2020 she goes.
So that's sort of a brief world cap.
It's bad enough in the world right now, isn't it?
Recap of the world's news.
I wrote a book with Whitley Striber.
It's called The Coming Global Superstorm.
And when Whitley and I wrote this, we envisioned by looking ahead, so yes, of course, it's part science and part science fiction.
And it's, of course, the book used in part, based in, the movie is based in part, the coming movie, The Day After Tomorrow, it's called.
You can see the trailer if you haven't seen it yet.
It's based in part on this book.
Which many, of course, dismissed as science fiction environmental scare stuff.
Anyway, in the premise, those of you who have the book, just turn to the inside cover.
And in the coming global superstorm, we have this paragraph right there on the inside cover.
What will trigger it?
Meaning the coming global superstorm.
What will trigger it?
Let me read from that one paragraph.
Global warming is about to cause the North Atlantic Current, which pumps warm water into the Arctic, to suddenly drop To a more southerly route.
This will cause an explosive change in climate, spawning a massive storm as cold Arctic air is freed to pour south, clashing with overheated air in temperate zones.
That's what it says in the science fiction book.
Now, I want to read you a story.
I'm sorry we don't have it up.
I did just before showtime phone Lex Loanhood to try and get a link up to this.
But if you want to check out what I'm about to read you, you can go to the independent.co.uk and read it, because that's where the story has come from.
Breaking tonight with today's date, January 25th, the independent.co.uk, and as soon as Lex gets it, we'll get a link up there.
Well, let's tell you what, it's a pretty long story, so let's quickly take a break, bearing in mind what I just read to you from our book, The Coming Global Superstorm.
Keeping that in mind, we'll be right back.
Once again, this story that I'm about to read to you, breaking in the last couple of hours from the independent.co.uk.
Headline is, global warming will plunge Britain into new ice age within decades.
Listen to this.
Britain is likely to be plunged into an ice age within our lifetime by global warming.
New research suggests.
It always begins that way.
New research suggests.
A study which is being taken seriously by top government scientists has uncovered a change of, quote, remarkable amplitude, end quote, in the circulation of the waters of the North Atlantic.
Now, you're just hearing about this.
A remarkable, let's see, use their words.
A change of remarkable amplitude.
Similar events in prehistory are known to have caused sudden flips of the climate, bringing ice ages to northern Europe within a few decades.
The development described as, quote, the largest and most dramatic oceanic change ever measured in the era of modern instruments, end quote, by the U.S. Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute, very well respected, which led the research, threatens to turn off the Gulf Stream, which keeps Europe's weather mild.
Turn it off, folks.
If that happens, Britain and Northern Europe are expected to switch abruptly to the climate of Labrador, which is on the same latitude, bringing a nightmare scenario where farmland turns to tundra and winter temperatures drop below minus 20 degrees centigrade.
Much heralded cold snap predicted for the coming weeks would seem bomby by comparison.
A report by the International Geosphere-Biosphere Program in Sweden, launched by Nobel Prize winner Professor Paul Crutzen and other top scientists, warned last week that pollution threatened to trigger, quote, trigger changes with catastrophic consequences, end quote, like these.
Scientists have long expected that global warming could, paradoxically, and it does seem that way I know, cause a devastating cooling in Europe by disrupting the Gulf Stream, which brings as much heat to Britain in winter as the sun, as does our sun.
The U.S. National Academy of Sciences has even described such abrupt dramatic changes as, quote, likely, end quote.
But until now, it has been thought this would be at least a century away.
The new research by scientists at the Center for Environmental, Fisheries, and Agriculture Science at Lowstroft and Canada's Bedford Institute of Oceanography, as well as Woodshole, indicate that this may already be beginning to happen.
Dr. Ruth Curry, the study's lead scientist, says, quote, this has the potential to change the circulation of the ocean significantly in our lifetime.
Northern Europe will likely experience a significant cooling.
Robert Gogosian, the director of Woods Hole, considered one of the world's leading oceanographic institutes, said, quote, we may be approaching a threshold that would shut down the Gulf Stream and cause abrupt climate changes.
Even as the Earth as a whole continues to warm gradually, large regions may experience a precipitous and disruptive shift into colder climates.
The scientists who studied the composition off the waters of the Atlantic, of the waters rather, from Greenland to Tiro del Fugo found that they have become very much saltier in the tropics and subtropics and very much fresher toward the poles over the last 50 years.
This is alarming because the Gulf Stream is driven by cold, very salty water sinking in the North Atlantic.
This pulls warm surface waters northwards, forming the current.
The change is described as the fingerprint of global warming.
As the world heats up, more water evaporates from the tropics, falls as rain in temperate and polar regions, making the warm waters saltier and the cold ones fresher.
Melting polar ice adds more fresh water.
Ominously, the trend has accelerated since 1990, during which time the 10 hottest years on record have occurred.
Many studies have shown that similar changes in the waters of the North Atlantic in geological time have often plunged Europe into an ice age, sometimes bringing the change in as little as a decade.
The National Academy of Sciences says the jump occurs in the same way as, quote, the slowly increasing pressure of a finger eventually flips a switch and turns on a light, end quote.
Once the switch has occurred, the new hostile climate lasts for decades at least and possibly centuries.
When the Gulf Stream abruptly turned off about 12,700 years ago, it brought about a 1,300-year period known as the Younger Dais.
This froze Britain.
That's right, folks.
Froze Britain in continuous permafrost, drove summer temperatures down to 10 degrees centigrade and winter ones to minus 20 centigrade, and brought icebergs as far south as Portugal.
Europe, obviously, could not sustain anything like its present population.
Droughts struck across the globe, including Asia, Africa, and the American West.
That's where I am.
As the disruptive Gulf Stream affected currents worldwide.
Now, some scientists say, of course, this is a worst-case scenario and that the cooling may be less dramatic with the world's climate flickering between colder and warmer states for several decades, but they add, in practice, this would be almost as catastrophic for agriculture and civilization as what I just read you.
So it's kind of eerie.
No, it's very eerie to write a book, particularly one in which you have described the precise trigger for the coming global superstorm, as we did in our book.
The stoppage, the abrupt stoppage of that Atlantic flow, and here we are with a story tonight saying it's already begun.
It's already begun.
So I think that I would like to ask all of you a pretty heady question, and that is, how do you think the world would react to a worldwide global environmental catastrophic event of this magnitude, exactly this?
We've got to get this story up to read it.
And when I did, having written that book, of course, the hair on the back of my neck just stood straight up.
This is within the last few hours.
And so I've been toying with this idea and this concept for a while, as you know, since, of course, writing the book with Whitley.
But here it is.
Now, I wonder how you think the world would handle such an event.
Europe would be in dire distress, immediate, dire distress.
I mean, London would be suddenly frozen.
It would be frozen over.
I mean, they could no longer sustain the population of that portion of Europe, period.
It would shift perhaps ultimately billions of people.
And it could do that inside of 10 years.
Just like you heard the article.
I hope you did.
Just like somebody throwing a switch that quickly.
Now, what is it we're seeing with the climate right now?
The little flickering, twitching changes that are occurring before that moment?
Or something less dramatic?
Well, according to this story, I would say, just offhand, you combine this with things like species-jumping viruses and all the rest of it, and you begin to get a pretty dire picture, actually.
And I just wonder how you think the world would deal with, well, what would happen?
Europe, to some degree, would begin to empty, right?
People would get the hell out.
But where would they go?
Would we help, for example, Britain?
Certainly.
I guess we would, wouldn't we?
We'd have to do our very best.
America would have to do its best to help part of Europe.
Would we help the French?
I don't know.
Could we handle the influx of people to America?
America would have its own problems.
According to this article, the American West would be in an extremely serious drought.
Asia would be in trouble.
The world would be in really big trouble.
Because where we presently grow things and have people living, it just would not be fit any longer to grow these things.
And you couldn't grow them, so you'd have starvation.
You'd have movement of people on a scale that we can't even contemplate.
Would we slam our borders closed if the world began to have a crisis of this magnitude?
How drastic would the change be here, even if Europe froze, which is becoming more likely, frankly, by the moment in my mind?
What would the politicians do, do you suppose?
Our president, how would he handle it?
Could we afford to hold the rest of the world's or two-thirds of the rest of the world's hand in every way, financially, economically, With foreign aid allowing our borders to be open at a time when we're thinking, frankly, probably privately of closing them with the terrorism threat and all the rest of it.
It's a very serious story.
A very, very serious story.
Of course, I suppose there will continue to be those with their heads in the sand out there.
We will always have that crowd until it actually occurs, and perhaps even after the event itself begins, which appears to be the case right now, they will continue to have their heads in the sand.
And all in all, there may not be anything we can do about this at all.
We may not be able to prevent it.
We like to think we are our own masters, and to some degree we are, but Mother Nature, well, she just may have another plan in mind for us.
So I thought, aside from having totally open minds, which we will have tonight, that I would ask you how you thought we would handle, I guess ask about the U.S., our government would handle such a world catastrophic event of this magnitude.
People moving, nations becoming uninhabitable, people starving to death.
How would we handle that?
Seems like that'd be a good topic for a talk show, doesn't it?
What do you think our Congress would do?
What would you recommend?
I mean, would you help the rest of the world, the Europeans, our friends, the British?
Maybe not our friends, the French, former friends.
What about the rest of Europe?
A lot of lands would become uninhabitable.
Would we have our hand out and our wallets open?
It may be happening.
From the high desert, this is Coast to Coast AM.
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You know, that's certainly a possible byproduct of what they might discover, but really we want to know about water.
I think that was a prime objective.
But that kind of equates to life.
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Yeah.
All I'm saying is if they did get a picture of it, would the government or NASA get to show the public, would we actually get to see it or would they cover it up?
Now, I'm sure this will all ends well, that ends well, and I'm hoping this does end well, but right now is beginning to sound like a Darwin Awards story.
Continue, please.
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Right.
Anyways, we tried to flank them, so we spaced out and crudged down.
They appeared to be going right between us.
From what I saw, it was hard to explain.
It looked like a shadow.
Like when you see people's shadows walking on the ground, it appeared like their shadows on the ground were standing straight up and they were walking.
Well, that did sound like the beginning of a Darwin Award, didn't it?
Speaking of which, we have a few for your consideration here.
Let's see, a runner-up in the new Darwins.
An American teenager was in the hospital yesterday recovering from serious head wounds received from an oncoming train.
When asked how he received the injuries, the lad told police that he was simply trying to see how close he could get his head to a moving train before he was hit.
And in this way, the gene pool surely is cleansed.
And then this.
When a man attempted to siphon gasoline from a motorhome parked on a Seattle street, he got much more than he bargained for.
Police arrived at the scene to find a very sick man curled up next to a motorhome near a spilled sewage.
Police spokesperson said man tried to attempt to steal gasoline, but unfortunately plugged his siphonose into the motorhome sewage tank by mistake.
By the way, owner of the vehicle declined to press charges, saying it was the best laugh he's had all day.
And then finally, this, when his.38-caliber revolver failed to fire at his intended victim during a holdup in Long Beach, California, the would-be robber, James Elliott, did something that can only inspire wonder.
He, of course, peered directly down the barrel and tried the trigger again.
I think what might happen as far as United States policy is that regardless of whether it's Republicans or Democrats in office, I think we will continue to pursue an aggressive oil policy and create more situations.
However, there would certainly potentially be a fight.
For example, a freezing Great Britain in Europe would have to have, certainly at the beginning of this, before they realized perhaps their land was not habitable any longer, there would be a long period of time where they would need a great deal of heating fuel and fuel just to stay alive.
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You bet they would.
And I can see that, you know, our policies being aggressive in Iran and the Eastern Caspian and a number of other places.
But as an aside, I know Lex is doing a good job for George, but I wanted to make sure that your previous webmaster, Keith, did he land up all right somewhere?
It's really interesting, isn't it, to contemplate how we would help our neighbors, what we would do or not do to help our neighbors, and if it really got rough, what we would do.
I mean, it's almost hard to picture a world, the kind of world that this story depicts as our being on the threshold of right now.
This is a big story.
I wonder if the networks are going to pick this up.
I wonder if the major U.S. networks anyway are going to pick this up.
Or is this something just too...
I mean, it's got everybody behind it.
But it's a pretty scary scenario, a pretty scary story.
What do you think the networks will do with this over the next couple of days or weeks?
I can see it on the 11,900-foot mountain outside my window here, and that's the best place for it, right up there.
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Wow, wow.
I want to address your question Of the night, if it won't cost me the chance to talk about your interview with the CIA remote viewer Lynn Buchanan two weeks ago and why I think it will mark the greatest turning point in the history of this program.
So let me talk about Would we help the Europeans in the case of a major disaster?
Not everybody feels that way about Gary North, even though you are absolutely correct.
The billions of dollars spent on Y2K prevented a disaster.
But people don't buy that because it didn't happen.
Anyway, go ahead.
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Well, $500 billion is not the kind of money that corporate America likes to spend.
And the only reason they did it is because coast-to-coast listeners bombarded their banks and their governments and everybody that has anything to do with power in this country.
And they had to spend the money.
It's as simple as that.
We would have had disaster.
So they're laughing at you for being a success.
And I hope you'll be a success again.
Last night's guest, coupled with Fred Allen Wolfe, tells us why with mass consciousness we could prevent a coming global superstorm, which is inevitable.
Best thing for you to do is decide for yourself, but don't stick your head in the sand.
Go read an article that I've now got up on the website, coasttacoastam.com.
Pop there, it says feature article, coming ice age.
We've just got it up at airtime.
Click where it says article in orange, and you'll be taken to the United Kingdom, where if you sit and you read the entire article dated tonight, now, it'll turn your blood cold.
Just like the just like parts of the Atlantic are about to turn cold and what that's going to do.
Well, that's what we're talking about.
So if you're just joining us late, go read that article and join in.
But it's open lines.
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anything you want to talk about their games Oh, good evening.
Going back to, say, 1960, I've been concerned about what we're talking about now.
And it's always been kind of on my mind.
And just too late that that has to do.
And later on, I'm reading Casey's predictions about earth changes.
And one of the, and he, without getting in order to the earth changes, one of the, at the very end, he says that the northern part of Europe will change within the twinkling of an eye, which is fast.
I'm a hypnotist for many years, and I have one subject that I put under, and she's phenomenal.
So anyhow, she comes up with this information, and one of it is that the chemtrails are by Did you ask her what the purpose of the chemtrails would be?
Didn't get into that that much, but boy, she sure described it as a spout coming out the back, coming out underneath.
Well, here's one scenario that I don't toss away as impossible.
There have been many reports of what appear to be not the normal contrails of an airplane, but rather something else.
And we've had a lot of chemical reports and guests on the subjects, and they're called chemtrails.
And people are suspicious that something's coming out of these jets other than the normal contrail.
Well, a wag, a wild-ass guess might be that our government or governments of the world have in fact determined what we're just beginning to find out now.
And that is that the world is in for a massive climate change of some sort.
And you have to imagine that this effort might be some attempt to make less or even stop what otherwise appears to be underway.
And that's truly a wild-ass guess.
That's all it is.
But, you know, why else would you spray?
Well, you might be spraying people, you might be testing bioweapons, you might be trying to prevent some sort of disease or terrorist act, or you might be trying to change the weather.
Yes, U.S. Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute, you know, very well respected, I mean, worldwide reputation, right?
Just said that described, they described the development as, quote, the largest and most dramatic oceanic change ever measured in the era of modern instruments.
Okay?
So what do you think our government and your government in Canada would do to aid a Europe suddenly unable to sustain human life?
Well when you say freeze over...
I mean get as cold in London as it is in Labrador.
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And there'd be sort of ice all over the place or something?
You know, I think that the U.S. and Canada would help the Europeans in this situation.
To what degree do you suppose?
Well, I think they would open the borders, and the Europeans have, you know, treasure like most nations, and they could help finance their migration here.
The Europeans certainly are money people, and so they could bring it with them.
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They could bring some of it, I'm sure.
But what this really brought to my mind is, you know, in the past, droughts and natural occurrences and the climate and such have sparked wars for resources.
Oh, you bet.
And this freeze-over would definitely affect Central Europe and Russia.
Along with other cataclysms that they know are on the way.
But one thing that comes to my mind is the prophecy in Ezekiel where Russia and different tribes, I could go through the biblical names of all of them, but a lot of those have to do with Central Europe, especially East Germany.
I know it's something of a taboo word, but she actually works through me.
I help her perform energy feeding, which is actually not a malicious experience, actually.
It's quite a puzzling experience for all involved.
But it's, I mean, there's not enough time to go into all the detail, but you have to understand where I'm coming from with this.
I'm an engineer.
I've been a science and math person my entire life, and even just as of last year, before these things started happening, I had a lot of friends who were involved with Wicca and with spirituality and metaphysics.
And I would constantly say, I just, I wish that something like this could happen to me.
Just the basic thing that I'm an acupuncturist, and it's really tremendous how the Chinese learned to work with the body and work with nature to write things that got wrong.
And I guess things like that could be done, maybe, with what appears to be coming at the world right now.
You know, something to change it all?
As I said, maybe that's what the chemtrails are all about.
I don't know, but I do know you should read this article, The Coming Ice Age, at coastocoastam.com right now.
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click on the purple article part because it's coming pretty quickly he's got this dream about buying some land he's gonna give up the booze and the one night stand and then he's settled down it's a quiet little
town and forget about everything.
But you know he's always keep moving you know he's never gonna stop moving cause he's rolling he's the rolling stone.
When you wake up it's a new morning the sun is shining it's a new morning you're going you're going home.
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This is three here talking from Powell River, B.C., listening to you on KEX.
Yes, sir.
Lovely Portland.
Yes.
Weather change.
Well, you know, I can't really understand it because I was listening to George last week, and there was a guest on, and he was saying that the seas are warming up.
If we have life, and we do, at the bottom of our very deepest oceans near volcanic venting, the most primordial conditions that one can conceive of, then there could easily be, and likely is, life, perhaps not as we know it, but on Mars, and on other planets, and perhaps even moons.
Some moons may harbor life, not necessarily as we know it, as you pointed out.
Well, you see, ultimately it would be up to the people because you'd probably have one candidate who believed that we should heavily invest in helping Europe while it icicled over.
And then you'd probably have some other candidate who didn't feel that way at all and took a more nationalistic position.
So the people might get to decide something like that.
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Well, that's possible.
And I have one quick question for you.
Sure.
For those of us who do not have computers, is there any way to write to you?
Because there's something that I've wanted to tell you about for a long time, but I would prefer not to do it on the air.
Well, Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute, as well as most of the rest of the world's really top-notch institutes, think that what's about to happen is that the flow of water in the Atlantic, which keeps Europe warm, is going to stop.
It's actually now begun to slow and is going to stop.
I am W6OBB, old broken bones, and have been since I was like 12.
Yeah.
I think that, and so I'm going to lay it on you, and I want to see what you think in the rest of the ham world, too.
I think that the licensing structure they've set up to have three licenses, that that's okay.
Yeah, yeah, that's great.
And the changes they've proposed are okay.
They don't go far enough.
The rest of the world right now has eliminated CW as a requirement.
I'm not bothered by keeping it as a requirement, five words a minute for the extra class license.
However, I wish the American Radio Relay League, oh Lord, please let them become realistic.
Any night you care to, sir, I frequent 75 meters a lot.
Go down, and you see, folks, the handbands are divided up almost in half.
You know, like half for the people who operate with microphones on, you know, like I'm talking to you right now on a microphone, and the other half who use code, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da.
That kind of code, right?
And any given night, you might count five to seven contacts going on on code, and about a million going on on voice.
So I wish they would, just like the rest of the world out there, allow everybody to, you know, don't outlaw CW, don't outlaw Zyband, let everybody operate everywhere with the digital modes and all.
Everybody can get along great.
just open the damn bands and let us be like the rest of the world that would be Oh, yeah.
But, you know, when you glance back at a lot of stuff that happened while God was around, man-oh, man, civilizations came and went, got wiped out, things erupted, and zillions died.
And so I guess when you can't say anything else, you can say that.
I remember when somebody called in years ago and said he saw a shadow person, and then immediately seemed like Everybody was calling your radio station with these stories of what they were calling shadow people.
Whatever they are, you know, maybe we're over-dramatizing it, but they're real.
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Mm-hmm.
What the people need is a way to make them smile.
It's a way to do it now.
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Actually, people's reactions to a story of this magnitude when they read it is interesting all by itself.
Charles in Lake Willy, is it, South Carolina, says, you know, Art, I think you're placing way too much faith in technology.
The greatest climate change in the history of modern instruments presumes the accuracy of our scientific instruments is somehow conclusive, which has, even you must admit, is pure BS.
Well, no, actually, I don't.
I think our scientific instruments, in terms of, say, measuring the temperature of the current in the Atlantic, probably are pretty good, to be honest with you.
Or let's see.
John in Toledo says, our global warming may be occurring, but very little, if any, of it, can be blamed on human activity.
You know, I'm at the stage, and I have been for a while, where I don't think it matters whether it's human activity or whether it's just a cyclic change, you know, every 13,000 X number of years.
What difference does it make if our scientists, if you read this article, it's what it says, if our scientists are detecting that there's a massive change in the current in the Atlantic, then it's already underway.
And there's nothing we can do about it.
So we should stop arguing about whether the human hand has meaning in all of this or not.
Or whether it's simply cyclic.
fact that it's occurring means that we should be concentrating our efforts on what we're going to do about it back now to the chilly waters the unknown waters on-screen calls First time caller line, you're on here.
I was reading the article that you mentioned earlier about the climate changes due to the Gulf Stream possibly being shut off.
Yes.
And I was wondering, and I couldn't find any information on the site, just what type of effect this would have on the North American continent and in particular the United States.
It did sound like by comparison, the rest of the United States would suffer virtually, you know, well, it didn't say anything, so I would presume it wouldn't suffer very much.
That would make at least two-thirds of the U.S. okay.
But that's still no small matter.
unidentified
Right, right.
And that's a presumption, you know, because they didn't say anything about it doesn't really mean that they're, you know, for example, sir, California is what, 20% of the U.S. economy.
Well, I wonder about our own, you know, our own government, how they'd react.
I guess in the beginning stages, we'd probably treat it as sort of a we probably wouldn't believe it, and for a while we would give aid, but there would come a time when we would be totally overwhelmed.
I mean, you just can't take out a continent like that.
I just can't imagine.
unidentified
Well, being that with the immigration from the African continent and the Middle East into Europe right now, then you're going to have all those people to deal with too.
You know, because there's massive immigration going on right now into Europe.
Well, I was just wondering, you know, because I didn't read anything specific about what the effects would be on the North American continent other than what you mentioned.
Well, I'd be interested to, you know, hear or see a follow-up on, you know, with more specific data as to what the global effects would be, not just the effects there in Northern Europe.
You do have to wonder a little bit, and this will be instructive in terms of watching how the American media either does deal with this or doesn't deal with it at all.
It is a big story.
The scientific names are unimpeachable, really.
And they almost have to talk about it, but will they?
Wild Cardeline, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Hello, Art.
Yes.
Yeah.
This is Esther from New York, and I'm listening on WABC, and I wish you were on Seven Days a Week.
A couple of years ago, I read an article in the Reader's Digest called The Only Way Out, and it was about a man escaping from East Berlin.
And ever since then, I've always felt that to every problem, there has to be a way out.
So I was sitting here thinking, and I thought of four ideas.
I don't know how good these are, but I will give them to you.
The first thing is to send ships to the place where the Gulf Stream is to keep churning the waters.
The second thing is that South America and Central America should also open its borders.
The third thing is we should send underground places where people can live because there may be overpopulation.
This would not work if there was a global warming, but if we have global cooling, it might work.
And the fourth idea is that since we hopefully have 10 years on this, that we should work on spaceships so we could colonize other planets to escape from what's happening.
In fact, there was a report about a similar area, I believe, off the coast of North Carolina and yet another story off the coast of Florida somewhere of all of a sudden these shockingly cold.
And I really mean, you're right when you say it.
I think it's ice-cold water where there should have been entirely tolerable water to swim in.
Well, obviously, sir, anything like that, any of you, anybody with video or a photograph of what appears to be a non-human entity of some sort, by all means get it to me.
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I was lying in bed late in the evening, past 12 midnight, with the lights on, and I opened my eyes to see a solid figure standing in my doorway, about five to six feet tall, in a long black gown, like a graduation kind of gown, look like.
Another encounter with something non-human from the high desert in the middle of the night.
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unidentified
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So Imagine sort of moving along out there in an 18-wheeler at about 65 miles an hour or so in the middle of the night, dark out there, and you're listening to this stuff on the radio.
Yeah, if you shut off the Gulf Stream, which is about what's going to happen, you shut off the rest of these currents as well, which brings cold water up to the equators in the Pacific.
A chain of events would begin, and it would happen.
They used to think slowly, but now, of course, we know it can happen virtually overnight in even less than 10 years.
It could, well, there's a quote in here.
You know, one scientist says, like that, like throwing a switch.
And once it's thrown, events are going to occur.
There's nothing we can do to stop them.
We can perhaps move our crop growing somewhere else and try and do things that'll help the human race along, but there's not a hell of a lot we can do to stop it.
unidentified
Well, not only that, it's going to put the world in enough turmoil at the same time that it's going to be difficult for one nation to help another because they're going to be busy helping themselves.
Certainly, there could be some pretty big changes in very northern New England, I would think.
Yes.
and we could have a great basket it's not producing better anymore that you will yes and that could occur to i mean the scale of what would happen is almost you know it's it's so unthinkable for us maybe that's why most people i don't know they they they almost their head in the sand about this.
They don't even want to think about it.
It's just too much.
unidentified
Yeah, we're definitely going to have to make some adaptations, and it's going to be a worldwide type of adaptation.
So there's going to be some terrible disruptions.
I believe that it's going to disrupt life as we know it today, for sure.
I mean, we're not going to have the social order that we believe we have right now.
Actually, before I get into that real quick, I just wanted to say, you know, I can't remember if it was you or George who said, who reported about 25% of the world's species being gone.
If you had, of course, a climate change at the pace they're talking about here, it might be a lot more than a quarter of the species.
unidentified
Yeah, that's true.
Anyway, I've been working out here.
I'm a security guard out here out in California City, and I sit up on this hill, and I'm like six miles away from the main runway over at Edwards Air Force Base.
You just mentioned how much does the government know?
I think Dick Cheney probably knows, at least, with his rattling the windows and his utility upgrades in Washington, D.C. I was curious.
When you mentioned that this change was going to happen so quickly, it reminded me of something I'd heard earlier that we're about due for another shift in polarity, that the poles need to change pretty soon.
And it sounds like you're chuckling on your end, so it must be going well.
That's quite all right.
unidentified
I was calling on both the spiritual seeing entities and also about the topic of the ice age.
Yes.
I have known and felt for many years, I'd say at least the last seven or eight years, that global warming would basically bring about an ice age with just common knowledge.
I mean, intuitive knowledge, just knowing.
I think that it's very possible that we're going to see this in the next seven, eight years.
So I will say I was shocked by reading this story, but only because it reminded me of what I already knew in sort of a, you know, it's kind of like you know you're sick, you know something is tragically wrong with you, and you go and you sit down in front of the doctor and he says, I've got bad news for you, you know, right there.
Kind of that point.
unidentified
Yeah, that's pretty much how I feel about the topic tonight and what I read from the website.
It's basically something that I think is you reap what you sow kind of thing on a mental level, on a super conscious level, the topics that you guys have been having.
Yes.
It's basically, you know, your predictions that you did, all the negativity, and it's kind of what people want, I think.
See, we can actually laugh about everything, folks.
unidentified
Yeah, it's a beautiful world.
Just wake up.
The thing also that I wanted to ask the listeners is that I had an experience last year on a camping trip with a few of my friends where I it's hard to explain.
I wasn't exactly channeling or having something speak through me.
And I'm just wondering if there's anybody else out there that maybe have had that experience where they have called themselves the circle or the line because there was also another friend there that called himself the circle.
Actually, it was in the middle of the night around the campfire.
And I started, you know, pretty much doing the thing that I wish people wouldn't do, which was crying and feeling sorry for the earth and saying, why are people so greedy?
Do you remember I once said that the only circumstance under which I would consider the use of this power, whatever it is, this mass consciousness thing, that we've discovered basically on this program, thank you very much, would be something as catastrophic, perhaps, as what's being described in this article.
And I'm not saying right now to you that I'm advocating its use for that, but this would be in the class that I would consider it for.
I mean, at some point, what have you got to lose?
And if something this catastrophic is really on the way, then it may be in order that a worldwide effort at changing it would be in order.
Well, I just wanted to say I remember a rather infamous radio show host a few weeks ago saying he would rather stick his head in the sand and die twitching than give up beef.
It looks like the best chocolate cake with chocolate frosting.
It looks delicious.
And they always put them in the windows in Japan.
That's how they do it.
And so you go and you get a piece of it, you know, and they put it on a plate for you, and you go out and you eat it, and you bite into this chocolate cake.
What I think is happening, and I think I read somewhere, either Scientific American or I saw it on PBS, that the Earth's magnetic field is reversing itself slowly.
And we're in the process of that transition.
And it's happened time after time, but this is the first time we're probably going to be able to experience it.
Well, the magnetic pole is wandering, but there's no sign yet that it's going to flip.
That would be very unsettling and would bring with it a lot of undesirable things.
unidentified
Because some scientists have said that because it's slowing down, the whole magnetosphere is slowing down, that things are happening, you know, like with the poles, the ozone layers.
I think the solar activity, the increased solar activity, we're seeing more of it, I guess, bombard Earth because the magnetosphere can't protect us like it used to.
So that's what I've been calling for, whether it's the hand-to-man or just cycles or whatever is driving this, since we don't fully, I think we agree, understand the dynamics at work here.
And if we do, it's to a small degree, but it is occurring, and so we must prepare.
And I have this to say, that I have a wild theory that maybe in this magnetism, like a planet like Mars, maybe the magnetism goes out that far, you know, and maybe we'll be sucked up to where Mars is, and Mars may come down to where we are in our orbit, and they'll come to life, and we'll go cold dead.
Now, I wanted to ask you, a few months ago, they were discussing this on Mr. Norrie's show, that they sent a Galilean space probe with 48 pounds of plutonium to crash into Jupiter.
It says five places in the Bible, even Christ said it, that there's going to be a tribulation period, but the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars that fall from heaven, and the powers of the heaven shall be shaken before the Lord appears.
And I think this is dangerous to be tampering with the planets.
It's like building a, and it says that, by the way, five places in the Bible.
Peter said it.
It's in the book of Revelation.
It's in the Old Testament.
Joel, the prophet, said it, and I believe Isaiah said it, too.
And I think it's very dangerous to be tampering with the, it's like building a Tower of Babel.
I'm thinking, instead of everybody worrying about what's going to happen, if it doesn't turn out very badly for us, why don't we think of now doing some hydroponic farming, vacuum-sealing food supplies?
Well, you know, if this is, I mean, these are really good scientists announcing all of this.
Now, if this is true, you would think that this would be a worldwide story, and there would be immediate international action to do something about all of this, as in getting ourselves ready for it.
That's what I mean when I say do something.
So what do you think?
Will that happen?
Or will this story be buried like some little tiny story on page 94 of the New York whatever?
unidentified
Well, I believe that the government's got a lot of suppression on the news agencies these days, and I don't think they're going to let a story like that loose.
They're afraid of mass hysteria.
And I had a couple of questions as well.
I was wondering if you might go to the Nexus convention over in Amsterdam.
it makes me wonder about the whole whole social set up and how you know whether the rich for example will be able to insulate themselves in some way perhaps in some parts of the world or whether it will get to a point where money doesn't really mean anything or how far something like this could as
I mean, the implications of Europe freezing are pretty severe when you think about it.
If you really sit down and give this a little bit of thought, what they're suggesting is probably about to occur here or already has begun would change everything we know about the world.
Everything.
In every one of those towns that you're in.
Even if you didn't sound like you were in the immediately affected area, international line, you're on the air.
Anyway, we wanted to talk about this effect with regards to the Gulf Stream.
I'm amazed.
Right away I thought that there must be something very active happening in the deep parts of our planet to have some kind of effect like this.
And then when you mentioned, or another person on the program later mentioned the magnetic field shifting, that kind of confirmed the feeling that I had that we've got some big stuff happening deep down there.
But it hasn't flipped, and there's a big difference.
unidentified
No, no, I didn't say flip.
It shifted.
But the second thing I wanted to mention very quickly was I read a really good article by Whitley Striever on UFO secrecy in a brand new magazine called Phenomena, which I picked up the November-December issue, first issue.
And it was a wonderful article, and I wanted to mention that to people because it's a new magazine, and it was by Whitley, and I very, very much enjoyed it, and it was quite frank and straightforward about this UFO secret policy that both the U.S. and other governments have.
Well, okay, that would mean that the Middle East then not only would have all of most of the world's remaining oil reserves, but they'd have the food too.
Well, because an earlier caller was right, and, you know, one of the unaffected areas is, or would seem to be, by lack of mention, and maybe I'm wrong about this, but they did mention the American West and Southwest areas would go into a severe drought, but that's not nearly so dramatic or serious as what would happen in Europe and apparently Asia and other parts of the world.
So that would leave a good two-thirds of the U.S. relatively unscathed in the temporary sense.
So one could imagine that things would continue with some remaining civilization in two-thirds of our country if all of this came true.
What if it's affected externally by the position that our solar system is in the Milky Way?
And if our solar system spins with the Milky Way and it's in a certain position every 10,000, 20,000 years, then maybe it's a normal cycle that we can't control.
And I wonder if the polarity of the different planets in our solar system are affected the same way as ours is being affected now.
That's pretty far out on a what-if-limb or here's what it might be limb.
But you really can't dismiss anything because we don't understand the dynamics that drive things of this magnitude.
We don't control them.
We don't understand them.
And we really don't understand what drives them.
You know, there are some things we can know and measure, like the salinity levels and the fresh water and the cold water, and we know what certain waters accomplish.
But beyond that, what causes them to change, we don't have the slightest idea.
And we came to the end of a street, and we parked our car, went out and started looking around at the stars, and there's a big gully with sort of prairie-like, but there's a spotted, there's like one tree.
And I go over to look over across the valley, and it's hard to explain, but like a blue light scanned me from down in the gully, and I could hear clicking noises.
And I've hunted and fished and stuff like that, and I have heard nothing like this ever.
And I freaked out and went by the car, and my friend went over to go look at it, and I remember seeing the blue light scan him again, and he's a really stout Christian.
And he ran the car, and we drove off, and we went to a place and just sat there.
And he said he was never, ever going to believe anything that the church told him again.
Well, I'm trying to imagine what anybody could suddenly see that would immediately destroy all of their faith.
Everything the church had ever told them, everything they'd ever read in the Bible, that kind of thing, to destroy that kind of belief system with, as they say, just one look.
That's pretty hard to believe.
unidentified
Yeah, that's what I thought, but it was really weird.
But, you know, as we begin to move about, as that scenario begins to unfold, if there is any upsurge in terrorism because of that, it would be to upset the geopolitics of the scenario itself.
You know, as other people may begin to use diplomacy to try to work things out, you may see terrorism begin to manifest itself to disrupt that and swing it one way or the other.
I mean, the magnitude of this story, of course, is incredible.
Do you think that the rest of the media, you know, I mean, this already is a lot.
It's, you know, big in Britain right now, obviously, just breaking tonight.
But do you think the rest of the world will assimilate this and run stories on it?
Do you think this will become a mass media item or do you think it'll be buried?
unidentified
I believe it may be buried.
It may be buried because, you know, you've had so many different shows about population control and those that want the population down to, I forget the number you had stated, but it was very low.
And as a scenario like that unfolds, those entities, wherever they may be, may be saying, hey, let's get all our affairs in order.
You guys talk about the underground tunneling and so forth.
They may be tooling up for that already.
And the media, you know how it is in the media.
Today's media is only interested in what's current and what's in vogue.
This is a serious story, but like your previous callers have stated, it's not Michael Jackson.
It's not Britney Spears.
This is deadly serious, but I still believe it will be buried.
I look at it sort of like frames of a film, and I think we've got to look in between the frames.
I think there's the possibility of financial collapse and other collapses happening in the midst of all this.
And the last caller brought up a really interesting point that I hit that I thought about, and that's black ops.
If all these things do start happening, and the last thing we need to consider is whether or not we're going to take other populations because there could be corporate collapses and gold standards going up and other things going on.
I don't know how our form of government would withstand an economic total dump of the kind we could have.
unidentified
I don't know.
I also, with regard to your beginning question, I think that this kind of a thing, this kind of a problem is just like seismic denial with earthquakes.
I think it would be buried.
No one would want to talk about it because no one would dare be able to face the consequences.
And it reminded me of an American author whose name, I apologize, I can't remember, wrote two volumes about this exact occurrence, although he attributes it to a different cause.
One of the books, if anyone were interested in reading possible methodologies for ameliorating the problem, is the second was Empire of Ice.
What were some of the suggestions for in some way lessening the problem?
unidentified
One of the things he suggested was geothermals, using geothermals as an energy source.
Another was sort of plexiglass micro-environments under domes.
Well, geodesic rather than having cities, each of these would hold approximately a quarter of a million people.
And the logistics of this is incredible.
And having been told many times people hate to have to think for any length of time, I think perhaps that might be an explanation as why people are having some trouble facing this.
If we know that switch has been thrown and Europe is about to go into the deep freeze, then it would so disrupt the world that if we didn't do something to lessen it, something of that magnitude or whatever, I'm even happy to hear about that suggestion, then we doom ourselves.
unidentified
The other thing that had occurred to me is perhaps we need something on the scale of an animal slash human sperm slash ova bank kind of a thing.
January 25th, 2004, today, Global Warming Will Plunge Britain into New Ice Age Within Decades.
And some of the quotes in it make that sound like nothing.
I mean, it's an amazing, scary article, and we've got it up on the website at coasttacoastam.com right now, a link right there in the middle of the page.
unidentified
But the original source was?
The reason I ask it that way was I know that it takes quite a while for journal articles, for example, to come to print.
And it occurs to me that if Woods Hole knows this, then surely the American political establishment government.
Well, again, Woods Hole said the development described as, quote, their words, the largest and most dramatic oceanic change ever measured in the era of modern instruments.
unidentified
Exactly.
Well, I'm just thinking that, yes, if this were known to the government prior to the announcement, then surely we might be able to back engineer what's been going on in terms of actions taken by our government.
Yes, I have no way of knowing, for example, how long they've known these new figures.
And I just have no way of knowing.
You're right about that.
I mean, there could have been consideration going on for some time now.
How do you think?
I'll ask you two, because it's really a cool question.
Now that this is out, how do you think the mass media will or won't deal with it?
unidentified
I come up short there.
I apologize.
I used to think I understood that the media was there to make sure that the public were informed, and I'm beginning to wonder if that's or informed with the truth.
We need to make intelligent decisions about ourselves and our lives and the world.
So, I mean, this is a really serious, worldwide impact, Wowzer kind of story.
And so will they do this or will we see more Jennifer and whatever all the media is doing right now?
unidentified
Depending on the seriousness of the paper, of the media itself, I think they will address the issue.
Maybe it will be on page 13, but I think that it may well surface.
There might be enough concern, interest, debate on the topic so that people who are in the scientific and engineering and people who are concerned about agribusiness in one way or another and let it be known that the listeners of this program are going to be watching.
And my other comment was on the question of the night.
Yes.
I think that if that happened to the European continent, I think that the United States would, I think they'd do something sort of like what they did in the movie Deep Impact.
There'd be some sort of, let's see, if I can remember Deep Impact correctly, there was a selection board that met and decided who was worthy in a certain age bracket and who wasn't.
And there were some exceptions for really brilliant people.
And I don't know.
You know, they made it ethically the best scientists, the best minds, the best this and That, right?