Professor M.R. Franks presents his theory of static parallel universes, where consciousness shifts like frames in a film to influence reality—explaining miracles (e.g., Jesus multiplying loaves) and paranormal effects (Marie Laveau’s voodoo). He argues Einstein’s causality was disproven by Alain Aspect’s 1982 experiment, enabling backward time manipulation. Meanwhile, Major Ed Dames warns of catastrophic solar flares, predicting a "kill shot" in three weeks, tied to an 11,500-year cycle causing societal collapse, with safe zones like Glacier National Park and Switzerland. Franks’ model suggests prayer or focused intent could alter outcomes, but mainstream science dismisses such claims as fringe—raising questions about whether reality itself is shaped by belief. [Automatically generated summary]
From the high desert and the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening, good morning, good afternoon, wherever you may be on this great, many time-zoned planet of ours.
I'm Arbell, and this is the weekend edition of Ghost to Coast AM.
Well, we've got a lot we're going to be doing tonight.
The sun certainly has been on nothing less than a rampage.
I mean what the sun has been doing.
Anyway, we'll get to that in a moment.
And because of that, in the first hour tonight.
Dr. Doom.
Major Ed Dane, so I think.
Totally deserves credit for calling what's coming down right now.
We're gonna ask him whether this is the long-awaited shot across the bow.
That is to say what Sun has been doing.
A first couple of items.
I have a little photograph for you up on my webcam.
Myself and Yeti.
Taken just a little while ago.
First, we've got a little bit of a technical mystery that we'd like to have you help us solve, if possible.
As you know, I'm a ham radio operator, and as Matt McDad might want to dig his teeth into this one, I don't know.
We operate on the 40-meter hamband, and this noise has been on and off now for several weeks, I would say.
I think I've been hearing it for several weeks.
It's a very, very odd sound, and it comes and goes as one would click a switch.
It is heard not just locally, but across hundreds, if not thousands of miles of the western U.S. And when we, on that particular band, as we notice it, it is, we're usually on 7209 during the day on 40-meter band, by the way.
If you want to join us one of these days, we're kind of late afternoon, something like that.
Anyway, this particular noise, or whatever it is, covers about 100 kilohertz from about 71.50 megahertz to 7250.
And the noise appears to have 100 kilohertz of bandwidth.
And it's very interesting.
So I'm going to play this noise for you.
This is an uncompressed version of the noise, exactly as it appears.
It may be some kind of government something.
We don't know what it is, but it's there virtually every day on and off, all day long now, radiating all along the West Coast.
And when it comes on, here's what it sounds like.
First, you'll hear the receiver noise, just the normal receiver noise.
And then you will hear this noise both come on, stay on for a few seconds, and then go off, and you'll hear the receiver noise once again.
Recorded by Jim Watkins, by the way.
Okay, I6GU, a friend of mine here is what it sounds like.
And then as you can hear, it's like someone throws a switch and off it goes.
So in the wonderful world of all the people out there, I know that one of you is going to certainly be able to identify that noise.
Now, in a moment, Major Ed Dames will be here.
He's a remote viewer.
I know, and I'm sure many of you know, and I'm not going to repeat, but he's a well-credentialed remote viewer who was in the early CIA remote viewing program that the government funded for so many years.
I've read his entire military record.
He is exactly who he says he is.
Ed Dames comes with a lot of friends and oh, lots of enemies, too.
And for years, he's been saying two things would happen.
Well, many things, but one of the biggest things he's talked about has been our sun.
And that the sun was going to get unpredictably and horrendously active and would first fire a shot across the bow, followed by what he has always called the kill shot.
And for years, as the sun has been active and unusual, I've asked Ed, well, was that it?
Was that the shot across the bow?
And he's always said no.
Today, well, actually a couple of days ago now, when I called him during the intensity of all this, and he said, Art, that was it.
That was a shot across the bow.
You'll hear more about that in a moment.
This is from thenewscientist.com.
And the reason I'm going to read this is because a lot of people say, well, you know, Art, the sun has 11-year cycles, and there's nothing unusual about what's going on right now.
Are you wrong?
Listen carefully.
The headline is, Sun more active than for a millennium.
The sun is more active now than it has been for a millennium.
The realization, which comes from a reconstruction of sunspots stretching back 1,150 years comes just as the Sun has thrown their word a tantrum.
Over the last week, giant plumes of material burst out from our star's surface and streamed into space, of course, causing geomagnetic storms here on Earth.
The dark patches on the surface of the Sun that we call sunspots are a symptom of fierce magnetic activity inside.
Ilya Ushkin, a geophysicist who worked with colleagues from the University of Olu in Finland and the Max Planck Institute for Aeronomy in Germany, has found that there have been more sunspots, listen to this, more sunspots since the 1940s than for the past 1,150 years.
Now, you ask, how in the world would they know that?
Keep listening, it's explained.
Sunspot observations stretch back to the early 17th century when the telescope was first invented.
To extend the data back further, Yelushka and his team used physical models to calculate past sunspot numbers from levels of a radioactive isotope preserved in ice cores taken from Greenland and Antarctica.
Ice cores provide, it seems, a record of the concentration of something called beryllium-10 in the atmosphere, our atmosphere.
Now, this is produced when high-energy particles from space slam the atmosphere.
When the sun is active, magnetic field protects the Earth, of course, from these particles, and levels of beryllium-10 are lower.
There already was tantalizing evidence that beryllium-10 is scarcer now than for a very long time, says Mike Lockwood from the UK's Rutherford Appleton Laboratory near Oxford.
But he told new scientists that when he saw the data converted to sunspot numbers, he thought, why the hell didn't I, why didn't I think of this?
Why didn't I do it?
It makes the conclusion very stark, he says, quote, we are living with a very unusual sun at the moment.
End quote.
In a moment, Ed Dames, with his perspective on exactly how unusual the sun is right now.
For years now, years, Ed Dames has been constant in his references to what the sun one day would begin to do.
He's been absolutely constant.
People have jumped all over him and called him Fraud and every other name in the book you can think of, but he has never, ever retracted anything he said about the sun or anything else for that matter, with the exception of a couple of admitted mistakes.
Ed has always maintained certain things, and one of them, one of the big ones, was that there would eventually be a kill shot from the sun that would be preceded by a shot across the bow.
And in certainly all my years of monitoring what our sun has done, I've been interested, even at times fascinated, but never until the last couple of weeks actually frightened by what's going on in the sun.
We're on the down part of a cycle now, the normal 11-year cycle for the sun.
And the activity level over the last couple of weeks has been so far over the top, so ridiculous, so monstrous, so gigantic, these spots, 484, 486, that we're just throwing off these mega flares, which, in fact, one of them, so powerful, the most powerful ever recorded, put our instruments in total saturation for 11 minutes.
Satellites out there designed to measure these things, they went into saturation.
It went up against a peg and just stayed there.
It was so powerful that it took them several days to decipher the fact that they thought it might be an X-28, which is far above the top of the scale.
And of course, when observing all of this, and incidentally, these spots have now rotated to the backside of the sun, side of the sun we can't see.
They're due back pretty soon.
They'll go across the other side, where right now I'm hearing from a number of people they're detecting gigantic explosions because they're seeing part of the full halo emission from the back of the sun.
When there is an explosion of that magnitude, I mean, they're going off like bombs, in justice to that word, what's actually going on, on the far side of the sun.
And I immediately, of course, thought of what Ed Dames has always told us, that there would be a shot across the bow, and then there would be a kill shot here from Las Vegas, where he just did a seminar, I believe, today is Ed Dames.
The clock is ticking now, getting ready for all hell to break loose.
So this was a precursor event.
And now what's coming is a series of really of warning shots.
The first one will be, we'll take out a lot of our satellites and start wreaking havoc with electrical grids in North America, by the way.
But that's just the beginning.
It's going to start out very slowly, and then we're going to get some protons coming all the way down on the deck, and that's when hell really breaks Loose on this planet.
Progressively larger and catastrophic events taking place on El Sol.
And that will culminate in a series of what I've termed kill shots.
This highlights the predictive power of expert remote viewing as an over-the-horizon radar.
And for big geophysical things like this, it's actually easier to take a look and to forecast and describe these very large events than it is, let's say, a terrorist attack or something else like that.
These are quite easy in those terms.
Nevertheless, it was difficult to pinpoint time.
Ironically, I've developed proprietary techniques to lock events in in terms of time.
Since we now have a milestone, a marker, on a timeline, we can look at the next key event and the effects of that down here in terra firma.
And then after that occurs, then the next one.
So we can sequence these events and describe and at least forecast ahead of time with a little bit of warning what's going to happen next.
For instance, the next very large event will actually destroy a few satellites, not just cause single-event latch-ups and some destruction of a few semiconductors and some materials.
It will actually destroy some satellites and will begin wreaking havoc with power grids in North America.
And then the next one after that, we'll take a look at that and the effects so on.
But these will become increasingly larger, and it will culminate in something that's globally catastrophic.
The only way for us to know, as experts, is to devote some time to look at the nearest preceding recognizable event.
So let's say that would be the Oscars or something else like that.
Then we would know as soon as we see this particular recognizable event, immediately after that, we're going to see this next described, already described key event from the sun.
We just did that for the Japanese, for a Japanese TV show, for the next catastrophic earthquake in Japan.
Yeah, we had to describe the damage, which is very, very serious.
Not in Tokyo, but unfortunately, as a worst case, the Manju Fast Breeder Reactor is going to break, causing essentially another Chernobyl.
We describe that and then pinpoint the earthquake in time.
And when we did that, we looked at the nearest in time preceding recognizable events, which in this case was a very large international kite festival in Japan and the Indianapolis 500 in the U.S. Both occur in late spring.
And then we had to pinpoint the year.
So we used proprietary techniques to do that, locking in on the year of 2005 for this event.
It would probably kill about 17,000 people outright and another 200,000 to 400,000 within the next year.
These reactors in Japan are designed to take earthquakes up to about 7.8 without even breaking.
And so we're talking about a real catastrophic earthquake, a very big shaker that does not do a lot of damage to Tokyo.
We know, for instance, we believe based upon our work and have described this for the Japanese viewing audience, the large modern skyscrapers standing and not coming down, but some of the old apartment buildings falling down and most of the damage and the deaths in subway tunnels when canals break and send seawater into the tunnels and surroundings.
We're talking about what he seems to have predicted accurately for our sun.
I guarantee you, I just, I guarantee you, if anybody had said the sun would have this kind of activity years after the peak of the sun cycle, they'd have said he was not.
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This is Coast to Coast A.M. with Art Bell from the Kingdom of Nige.
Just a very few years ago, if anybody had ever said anything like Ed Beam said with regard to what the son would do, they'd have said he was crazy as a loon.
thing of the dough it happened As you know, we just had a big harmonic concordance tonight, and I actually observed the moment with a little bit of meditation.
Don't know why.
Don't even know if I believe in all that kind of stuff.
I do, however, believe in the power of consciousness, collective mass consciousness.
There's no doubt about the fact that I believe in that.
So I thought, ah, what the heck.
And at 5.12 Pacific Time, I gave it a shot for a moment.
And it relates to a question that I've got for you, Ed.
With regard to everything going on on Earth right now, Todd in Orlando, Florida says, is it possible that the harmonic concordance and people getting together and praying over all this might in some way lessen its severity?
In other words, could human collective consciousness have some effect over all of this?
Or when 11,000 years comes up on the ticker, is that it?
With regard to the beginning of the increase in severity of all this, the kill shots, is there anything you can tell us with regard to where we are right now?
The shot across the bow occurs, then the more troublesome shots occur.
And I mean, where in this timeline does the beginning of the kill shot stuff start?
I'm going to need a month to work with my team on that art.
That's what it's going to take to be able to lay that out into timeline, to event sequence it.
Right now, I can describe the next event, which is more of a warning than a shot across the bell, because this one is going to be felt by the common man.
The last one, unless you were a geophysicist or a sun-watching astrophysicist, you really might not know unless you lived way up north and watched that beautiful night sky, those sheets of colors in the sky, that anything would change at all.
In this case, I have to agree from what I know, insight from my tools, that in a little while, not necessarily in a few months, but in a little while, when geophysicists and solar physicists watch these huge black spots, bigger than they've ever been before, come around, they're going to start biting their fingernails.
Our magnetic field, of course, protects the Earth from the worst of these things, usually.
In fact, always so far, to the best of my knowledge.
But what I've always been concerned about, Ed, was these mega flares that we're beginning to have.
If you should get a series of them and the magnetic field gets further and further weakened and pressed down, it's kind of like pressing in on a sponge, once you get it far enough weakened, then, of course, one could come sailing through with some of the results that you've been talking about.
Well, I was about to ask, if you were a scientist who studied the sun and you were a remote viewer, would that give you a better chance of understanding the dynamics when they came to you?
This cycle that you referred to, this 11,000-year cycle, were you able to look back and virtually see that at one other point in our Earth's history, everything was virtually sterilized?
You know, there's been some fairly late scientific news that suggests That they've just discovered that stars that are considered to be relatively stable, like ours, like good old soul, from time to time throw tantrums and have been known to fry planets in their vicinity.
Or at least they've had activity which would have fried planets had they been seen.
In other words, planets that are considered to be stable every now and then go berserk short of going supernova, but it's enough to sterilize planets in their vicinity.
It's connected and linked by magnetic fields and by lots of other fields.
And we are not that far away from this star of ours.
And if it's going to throw a tantrum, and it is, it's going to be like all hell breaking loose, but it appears to be a periodic function.
And this one is a long function.
In this case, about 11,500 years.
That's why recorded history only goes back about 9,000.
It took about 2,500 years to have a new history for society to pop back what was left of it from the last deluge.
And so we're talking about the anti-diluvian world.
The reason I say deluge and talk about water is because what's going to happen eventually is the polar ice is going to melt on both poles.
It's going to cause the earth to wobble and precess, and eventually it will shift.
Think of a gyroscope.
If the gyroscope is in a stable equilibrium position, and if you poke it with your finger, it starts to precess and wobble and eventually comes back to a new position, axis reoriented, and that's a way.
That's what's going to happen to us.
That will cause probably 2,000-foot waves and rearrange our geography quite a bit as well, take out a lot of us, but there'll still be plenty of people left to put things back together again.
In some ways, it's something like a responsibility.
And in other ways, I feel that by scaring people to death or nearly to death, they'll reorder their own priorities and start to treasure their lives more.
I think it wouldn't be fair to it's scary, of course, and I agree.
Many people don't want to know, and they become very angry at me when I tell them that, oh, well, this is a high probability that you and your family are going to fry this way unless you take proactive measures.
You remember the Cold War, of course, Ed, you're that old.
I know you are.
And we all thought, well, if it ever came to all-out nuclear war, walk out on the front lawn, throw open your arms and say, here I am, baby.
Take me, because you wouldn't want to be around afterwards.
You know, pity the survivors kind of deal.
Well, what about this?
I mean, if the sun virtually sterilizes most of what's on Earth, and the only people who live are the ones who crawl out of caves at the end of it all, would you want to be a survivor of all this?
Well, the whole Earth, I mean, we're not talking about all of mankind.
I think in biblical terms, a third of the fishes in the sea, a third of the plants on land, a third of the people, and then after that, you're going to have slow death among a lot of large other population masses.
But the sun's not going to fry the entire Earth.
You're going to get a lot Of areas and belts that get high winds, not the entire planet.
Our geography is going to be rearranged and life will begin again.
If people want more details and some might not, they can go to my website, remoteviewing2003.com, and take a look at some of the details there and maybe order a tape from today or maybe not.
I started out in high school interested in science, and I was torn in college between going a science route or going a humanities route, and I went the humanities route, but have always maintained an intense interest in astronomy, and particularly that branch of astronomy known as cosmology or the study of the universe taken as a whole.
Edwin Hubble, after whom the Hubble telescope is named, of course, is the man who discovered that there was a universe out there.
Prior to Hubble, we really thought these faint glowing objects were in our own galaxy, and we had no concept that there was anything beyond our galaxy.
We didn't know that these faint glowing objects were galaxies in their own right.
He's the man that discovered that there is a universe, and he was a lawyer, by the way.
But what I'd like to do, Art, with your permission, is talk a little bit this half hour about where we're going, then perhaps in the second half hour, explain the traditional parallel universe theory.
And then in the third half hour, give the variation on it that my book expounds.
When I graduated from college, I moved to New Orleans.
And New Orleans is kind of a strange city.
If you think voodoo is something of the past, think again the religion is alive today as it was in the days of Marie Laveau.
And I'm aware that there are at least seven voodoo or witchcraft shops in the French quarter.
And I took an interest in studying this, not from a standpoint of being a member of this, but just because I was wondering if spells and voodoo and hexes work.
And I can assure you they do.
If you put your mind to it, you can kill someone with it.
And that is, traditionally it's been thought that the only way a voodoo curse, for example, would work is if the victim of the curse were aware of what had been done and believed himself in the whole voodoo trip so that he was virtually scared to death or something like that.
That psychologically is the way it works.
Are you suggesting to me that, oh, no, Art, it works, and it works whether or not the victim is aware of his plight?
It works just as effectively as mass minds concentrating on turning back a hurricane on coast-to-coast a.m. succeed in turning back the hurricane.
Prayer also works.
Several double-blind studies prove the efficacy of prayer.
In an article a couple of years ago in the London Daily Telegraph, Barbara Lanton told of numerous double-blind experiments showing that ordinary Christian prayer helps heal the sick.
She quotes a professor at the Faculty of Health at St. Martin's College in England, an expert on healing.
He says that in these experiments, the sick persons don't even know that they're being prayed for.
Neither do they know the people doing the praying.
What seems to matter is having a sincere, focused, loving, compassionate intention for the well-being of another, and having their picture seems to be an influencing factor.
I, too, as I'm sure you're aware, if you've listened to the program, you know what I believe about mass consciousness.
Yes.
So here's a big one for you.
Just try and answer it if you can.
Does the fact that prayer works and mass consciousness works, projected mass consciousness works, does all of that mean, Professor, that God is hearing the prayers and answering?
Or does it only verify the power that exists in mass consciousness and people who cast spells and do magic?
Is it God answering, or is it a power separate from and simply around us as much as the air is that we?
Before we leave prayer, there was another study published in the Southern Medical Journal back in 1988 where a doctor said that the doctor said that What do you mean it goes both ways?
And I think once you study or read my short little book, it becomes quite clear why this is.
And we're going to get there.
But in a study in the Southern Medical Journal in 1988, they compared the healing of hospitalized heart patients, half of whom were prayed for by strangers.
It's a double-blind experiment.
Neither the patients nor their doctors knew which of the patients received prayers.
Yet the patients who were prayed for recovered markedly better.
And that puzzled me why prayer works, why voodoo works, why witchcraft works, why mass consciousness works.
And basically, what I've done is set out a view of parallel universes that explains the paranormal.
We're into the field of quantum physics now, and we're going back almost a century.
But I believe it was Thomas Young trying to figure out whether light was a particle or a wave.
Cut two slits in a piece of, I don't know if it was metal or paper or what, but if you project light through that, if it's a particle, you'd expect to see on the wall behind the piece of paper, the two slits reproduced.
If it's a wave, you'd have an interference pattern.
We're all familiar with these interference patterns.
When we throw two stones in a pond, you get an interference pattern.
Well, what happened when the experiment was ran is that you got an interference pattern even if photons or electrons were released one at a time.
Now, one photon or one electron should go through only one of the two slits.
But apparently, it knows of the existence of the other slit.
In conclusion from this, and we need to talk about something called Schrodinger's Cat.
This is a thought experiment in which basically nobody actually does this to a cat, but a cat is put into a box with a vial of poison and a little hammer that'll trip the poison.
If a quantum event occurs, it could be a Geiger counter is set to count the number of clicks received in a given period of time.
And if the count is odd, it trips the hammer and kills the cat.
If the count is even, the cat is allowed to live.
Quantum physics dictates, classic quantum physics, the Copenhagen interpretation, dictates that the cat goes in two distinct phases, two existences,
and remains one of them alive, one of them dead, until someone comes along and opens the box, at which time reality collapses back retroactively to the event.
And basically, reality is determined at that point.
The person who opens the box is traditionally called Wigner's friend.
Schrodinger was, of course, a physicist in the 1920s and 1980s.
Supposedly, in the traditional quantum physics interpretation, right, until someone looks into it, when the quantum event determines whether the hammer drops, the cat goes into two superimposed states, one of being half alive, the other of being half dead.
And, well, speaking of what happens when reality instantly collapses back when somebody looks into the box, Davies and Brown tell us that the transition occurs because the universe splits into two copies, one containing a live cat, the other a dead cat.
Both universes contain one copy of the experiment or two, each of whom thinks he is unique.
In general, if a quantum system is in a superposition of, say, n quantum states, a given number of quantum states, you're going to start to lose people here.
My guest is Professor M.R. Franks, who wrote a book called The Universe in Multiple Reality.
Not, to be sure, an easy thing to understand.
I'm straining a little to understand it, so we'll backtrack a little bit and try and understand exactly what it is the professor is saying in a moment.
And quantum physics says that upon the happening of the quantum event, in other words, the random number generator, if you would, the cat splits into two cats in two boxes.
One is alive, one is dead.
And only when the experimenter looks into the box does reality collapse in or reality freeze itself.
And then at that time, we know what the reality is.
Well, yes and no, because this leads us to parallel universes, which has been around.
The concept was proposed by Hugh Everett back in 1957.
And David Deutsch, another leader in quantum physics at the Department of Astrophysics, Oxford, says, let me quote him, I think it's safe to say that there is a very large, probably infinite number of these universes.
Many of them are very different from ours, but some of them differ only in some minute detail, like the position of a book on a table, and are identical in every other respect.
In other words, there is an infinity of universes postulated or assumed to exist in the parallel universe or multiple realities theory.
The difference, the classic parallel universes theory postulates that each of these universes is alive and moving and has people and things in it.
What I'm proposing as a hypothesis is that each universe is static.
Each universe is frozen, like an ice palace, like a frozen frame in a picture of a motion picture footage.
And that these universes, which are static and unchanging, can then be put in an order.
They can be arranged so that we would define as contiguous or next to each other two universes that differ by only one quantum transition, meaning that differ only in the most minute detail, like the position of one electron on one atom, makes it a different universe, but it's a static, unchanging universe.
And then you can put these universes in a framework or order, much like colors on a color wheel or words in a thesaurus, and that consciousness is the reality that moves from universe to universe at high speed,
literally not millions of frames a second, but millions of billions of trillions of frames a second, at the rate of one frame per jiffy.
A jiffy is a defined unit of time.
It's very tiny.
There are more jiffies in one second than there have been seconds since the beginning of the universe.
So the answer to all of this is consciousness is the fact that these universes exist, but the movement through them or the manipulation of them is all by consciousness.
And that's the problem that so many physicists have had with it.
You understand the relationship between Essentially, atheism and science.
Now, there's justification for scientists not calling in God every time, or we'd be explaining thunderstorms as God is angry.
It's too tempting to call in God, but by the time we get to a field, and quantum cosmology is that field, astronomy, the study of the very large, quantum physics, the study of the very small, philosophy, theology, all meet at a particular point, and this is the point at which they meet.
And basically, science has a problem with parallel universes because they can't explain consciousness, you see.
So science almost denies the existence of consciousness.
In fact, David Deutsch in his fairly recent book, The Fabric of Reality, states unequivocally that consciousness is the one phenomenon that science, he says, we don't know what consciousness is.
They can't explain it.
so we each of their parallel universes you see that the people split millions of copies of second as they postulate you're actually suggesting aren't you there uh...
It would be an ability of our mind, but I don't mean that we would just by willing it to be so and by having the ability to do it, and I am certainly not here to propose what methods one uses, whether it's meditation or prayer or whatever, to get there, but that would be the method by which they would get there.
There was a movie, Professor, with Christopher Reese, matter of fact, which the central tenet was that this man fell in love with this portrait of this woman.
And you're familiar with the fact that in order to get to that time and to get to her, he removed all possible remnants of modern society or even a hint of the actual time in which he was and concentrated for incredible amounts of time on being not in this time, but rather in that time as the reality.
And I rather thought at the time I saw that movie that it represented maybe a way to do it.
You know, it was just a movie, but according to what you've been saying tonight, they might have been on to the way to do it.
And while I don't purport to tell anybody how to do this, I'm saying that all paranormal phenomena can be explained by consciousness being something that moves at a tremendous speed through parallel universes that differ from each other only by one quantum transition, by the position of one electron on one atom on the farthest galaxy.
Makes it a different universe.
And the consciousness moves through these in sequence so that events unfold.
That these are static and not dynamic Universes, you see, science has a problem with that because if you believe that consciousness is merely some kind of phenomenon that accompanies a brain, then you've got to believe, as they believe, that every time the universe so-called splits, each being is conscious.
I began to conclude, Professor, through a series of experiments that scared even me, that there is, there does appear to be a power, a very great power, perhaps much greater than I understand, associated with mass consciousness, with mass concentration on an event occurring.
Now, for all I know, it could be that one consciousness concentrating on that event could have as much influence on that event occurring as millions doing it.
He simply took the consciousness of himself and his followers to universes or frames in this mix-and-match motion picture film we call life.
It's like a motion picture film.
We're going from frame to frame, from universe to universe in rapid, rapid sequence.
But unlike a motion picture film where every frame is defined and there's no way to get off track, this is an assembly of universes, a lattice, if you will, so that the mind is free to go into different frames or universes.
And he simply took the consciousnesses of his followers with him to universes in which there were more fish in the basket.
Because every conceivable arrangement of matter exists.
Now, whatever you think of Ed Dames, doesn't matter.
Remote viewers were involved with our government for 20 years in doing something with their minds, eliminating their own ego, and allowing them to flow somewhere where they could glean information that otherwise should not be gleanable.
That's the only way I think to put it.
Shouldn't be gleanable.
And so do they travel through these same paths to glean information that we all think is like magic that's called remote viewing?
But I don't think actually anybody's suggesting a supernova.
They're simply suggesting a series of eruptions on the sun that, if you lose an ad, for example, he suggested 11,000 years ago virtually sterilized the planet.
We're not talking now about a supernova, but rather just an angry sun.
One addition of the Earth will always survive in which the overwhelming majority of people go on living.
And it is to that universe that our consciousnesses will go.
In other words, this is the strong anthropic principle.
There's a weak anthropic principle and a strong anthropic principle.
The weak anthropic principle says that of all possible universes, only in a very few are the laws of physics so arranged as to be capable of supporting intelligent life, so we ought not marvel that we live in one of the few places capable of supporting life.
But the strong anthrop, that's the weak anthropic principle.
The strong anthropic principle, less firmly established than the weak one, postulates that events must unfold so as to preserve the observer.
The box containing Schrodinger's cat splits into two.
And in one of them, the cat dies.
and the other the cat goes on living unaware that another copy of itself has ever died the box containing so many thousand people I'm not going to go that far.
They may be, but their consciousnesses definitely are living in a universe.
Well, I wonder if the dead really know they're dead.
when i asked the professor about this i think it was nine one one he who will pick up their needs of all maybe they I want to explore that a little bit.
With regard to those who died in the 9-11 terror attack, Professor, you hiccupped a little bit when I said then they're in a place where they don't even know they're dead.
You suggested to me, well, they could be in a parallel universe where essentially that would have never happened, or at least they would not have died as a result of it.
Whether it has gone into that universe as living, which is highly probable, as living beings who are not aware that they died.
That's highly probable.
But it's also possible that they could have gone into a universe where our psychic friends would say they're living on another plane, very much aware of their existence.
If parallel universes and the ability to manipulate the apparent seeming power there would be that would come with the ability to manipulate like that, why doesn't it explain everything, Professor, including our current concept of God?
I think certainly we can go back to James Jeans's classic 1932 statement that mind no longer appears, and he was an astronomer, he realized, mind no longer appears as an accidental intruder into the realm of matter.
We're beginning to suspect that we ought rather to hail it as the creator and governor of the realm of matter.
Not, of course, our individual minds, but the mind in which the atoms out of which our individual minds have grown exist as thoughts.
And there is nothing in that movie that's impossible.
It starred Dennis Quaid as a fireman who basically lives through a series of deaths.
In other words, Schrodinger's cat, the living him, doesn't die in the fire like the newspaper reported.
The living him doesn't die of cancer like the newspaper reported, and he comes right up to today.
Because you see, not only does the present, at least in classic parallel universes, split into many copies of itself every second, but the past, various strands from the past merge into the present.
So, but that movie also suggested, Professor, that it is certainly possible, and I guess you're not disagreeing, to manipulate the way these events unfold.
You know, the causal order postulate, which says that for event A to cause event B, event A must come earlier in time than event B. Yes, sir.
Einstein postulated that mainly to please his critics, and it's been proven wrong now.
The experiment by Alain Aspect of the University of Paris about eight or nine years ago conclusively proved that causation can move backwards in time as well as force.
Well, when an atom emits two photons, they are polarized.
And their polarity, of course, is always identical, even though they're going off in opposite directions.
The paradox is that if you take a polarizing filter, now polarization can be vertical or horizontal.
Think of it as somebody trying to get something through a picket fence, and only vertical objects will go through it.
If you're wearing polarized glasses, they may let in vertical light or horizontally polarized light, but not both.
However, you can take a photon and turn it all the way around by passing it through a series of polarizing filters just a little bit different from one another.
The catch is, when you change the polarity of one of the two photons emitted by this atom, the other photon going in the other direction at the speed of light.
Okay, and then these could have been emitted 2.38 million years ago from some star in the Andromeda galaxy, and the other photon could be 2.38 million light years ago.
Okay, well, they merely observed that I'm trying to remember exactly how it went, that an object in one place was duplicated by an object in another place, and that for an instant in time, these objects were in both places at the same time.
But my take on these photons simultaneously changing is that you simply enter a universe in which both photons are of the different polarity that you've changed this photon to.
Nothing other than that you're moving into a different reality in which the photons were emitted in that different polarization.
If you change it from vertical to diagonal polarization, you're just simply entering a universe in which the photons were always at that diagonal polarization.
In other words, each of the static universes that I'm proposing, and this is explained, by the way, the first chapter of my book is available online to anybody who wants to look at it.
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Like in Frequency, where he died any number of ways, but finally they, of course, found one in which he didn't, and he walked right into the scene live.
Now, my postulate differs, and it's only a hypothesis.
It differs from that thinking in that here, each of the universes is static, frozen, and unchanging, and only slightly different from the contiguous universes that differ from it only in the nth degree.
All right, then in what manner are people able to do, I don't know, things like remote viewers do, things like the lady down in New Orleans we talked about.
How are they able to learn to manipulate and navigate their way through these universes to obtain or to reach their goal?
My gut reaction is no, unless the individual consciousness is very adept at it.
I would not dare to suggest that if that individual consciousness were, for example, of Jesus Christ, that that person could not work miracles in and of his own right.
Let's just suppose, Professor, that our sun began going berserk.
Let's suppose it started throwing off these monstrous, horrid, super flares and ejections of matter that if it kept up and got worse, would literally at some point sterilize our planet.
Would it be your view that if a majority of people on the planet used their consciousness to ensure that they did not become part of the reality that got made into a piece of bacon, that they would achieve their goal and they would avoid getting toasted by the sun?
In other words, that a planetary event or a cosmic event of that magnitude could be affected by mass consciousness.
The process that's happening is that the consciousnesses of these individuals are zipping over to a series of parallel universes in which the sun does not nuke the earth.
This mass consciousness effort that we're discussing right now would only work, I presume, if it were directed in the right way.
And so then what would people be doing?
Would they be thinking that we're going to be on an earth if you were going to go into some concentration thing, let's say some great concordance came around and everybody had a chance to concentrate at once, or millions of minds went to work on it to make the earth a safe place, a place where the sun wouldn't fry it.
Is that how they would go about doing this, Professor?
such as voodoo and witchcraft, and they both work.
So I would assume either by imagining that our earth is safe, that would be the wiccan way to do it, or by praying to a higher power to make the earth safe and believing it's going to happen, I would submit that they would be both effective.
Currently, many would make arguments that we are destroying ourselves, that we're poisoning the planet, that we're causing the ice caps to begin to melt, that the gases that we're releasing are warming the atmosphere, and a lot of people believe that.
So is the converse true, that you could, let's say, you could think yourself into a catastrophe?
I think so, and I think the imagination of the human mind is what accomplishes it.
And that goes back to your question during the first half hour in which you asked if it is necessary to have the belief of the victim of a hex or spell.
Yes.
And of course, the belief of the victim would strengthen that hex or spell.
Well, in that, let's stick with that for just a second, Professor.
Which is and the Wiccans, they all believe, I think, and I'll misquote this and get corrected, I'm sure, but that if you, without good moral cause, go after somebody in a negative fashion, that it will, unless you do certain things or maybe it cannot be prevented, it will come back to you times four, times ten, whatever, that it returns to you.
I believe that if I have consciousness, I would be a terrible egotist to say that I am the greatest consciousness in the universe.
And therefore, the existence of my consciousness implies the existence of higher and higher and higher consciousnesses with increasing ability to do things.
Well, it's a problem because obviously the universe would be thinning out.
There's no question that the universe is expanding.
So they postulated that matter is spontaneously created to keep the density of the universe the same.
That's the steady-state theory, and it was authored by basically Herman Bondi, Thomas Gold, and Fred Hoyle back in 1948.
Then in 1962, at Bell Laboratories in Holmedale, New Jersey, Arno Penzius and Robert Wilson discovered what could only be called the echoes of the Big Bang.
And the evidence they discovered was overwhelming that the universe originated at a point from which everything exploded out at a point in the finite past, possibly 15 billion years ago.
Can't put a moment on it, you know, get it right down to the date, but that everything blew out of a single point.
And that's now so accepted.
And before he died, Fred Hoyle, who, remember, authored the steady state theory, wrote in 1983, this sets, speaking of the Big Bang, he says, evidence now shows the universe was structured by intelligence.
After suggesting that interstellar particles include bacteria, Hoyle said, this sets the stage for the origin of life on the largest conceivable stage.
The stage is not local, not restricted to our solar system or even to our own galaxy, but truly cosmic.
If an intelligence was involved in the origin of life, the intelligence was very big indeed, as I suspect is recognized by the religious instinct residing in all of us.
Life is a cosmological phenomenon, perhaps the most fundamental aspect of the universe itself.
And Hoyle then went on to postulate that the principal feature of the universe is an abundance of life virtually everywhere, even in space.
This is the man who authored the steady state theory, repudiating it, acknowledging the Big Bang, and acknowledging that there is an intelligence out there.
My way to get there is I have an intelligence.
I'm surely not going to be so egotistic as to think that I am the highest intelligence in the universe.
So there must be higher powers, far higher powers than I, and perhaps without limit.
But yet everything that we know of, gosh, early miracles in religion and the presence of Jesus on earth,
everything we read in the Bible would be possible by a master manipulator of the various abilities one might glean through the manipulation of universes, of multiple universes, of tampering with these multiple universes.
Everything we believe about religion, all those miracles, they could be explained with what you've told us tonight.
What I've done is presented a non-atheistic view of parallel universes.
And once you take the atheism out of it, that science, perhaps through no fault of science's own, you can't explain everything in science by God, or thunderstorms would be explained as God is angry.
But if you admit to the possibility that consciousness exists independent of matter, which their parallel universes doesn't admit, so we're all splitting into millions of copies of ourselves every minute.
Each has a consciousness but is unaware of the other.
I really feel, Art, that this is going to be a classic book.
And I must say for your listeners, it's not available yet in the bookstores.
It is available on all of the major dot-com booksellers.
One of them says they don't have it in stock, but my publisher assures me that they're printing them up as needed right now and that they will be in stock.
So if anybody does want the book, they shouldn't hesitate.
Well, then, don't you ask yourself why, whatever your mainstream religion happens to be, Professor, that manipulation of the kind done with voodoo and what we consider to be magic, why wouldn't it be part of that religion that you belong to?
Although I have no doubt that there is such a thing as good and evil, and I have no doubt that the abilities humans have to influence matter, to influence the universe, I have no doubt that this ability can be used either for good or for evil.
And I'm certainly not advocating that it be used for evil.
But so you said, and it's easy to say, I believe in good and evil, yes, but I actually was asking if you believe in a consciousness for each one of those, and you do for the good part, as in a God, but you think that perhaps evil is simply the absence of good.
Can you, with what you believe, Professor, honestly counsel, let's say, a young lady who is right now entering the world of Wicca or perhaps even some darker practitioner aspect of it, and they're learning and they're doing and they're growing.
Can you honestly say, yes, go ahead, pursue your line, pursue your craft?
or would would the religious part of professor frank say on no these are these these are the areas of not good of of the lack of good and you shouldn't be probably i i I see most people in it as good people.
But by the same token, I prefer my belief in Christianity, and I would prefer people to agree with me on that, as I prefer people to agree with me on politics and on everything else.
But I recognize that people have freedom of choice.
And I'm not going to try to impose my views on someone else.
You know, the incredible thing is that kind of the high priestess of voodoo, who lived in New Orleans around 1820, Marie Laveau, was actually, and this is documented history, permitted to conduct her ceremonies in the graveyard behind, right behind St. Louis Cathedral in the French quarter of New Orleans.
Allowed by the officials of the Catholic Church in New Orleans in the 1820s to conduct her voodoo services in the 1820s and 1830s in the small cemetery right down in the middle of New Orleans in the French quarter.
Well, then that would be an admission by some high-level Catholic official, at least in that area, in the New Orleans area, an admission that it works.
She would literally go to Mass herself, consider herself a good Catholic, and go out into St. Louis Cemetery right on the grounds of the main cathedral in New Orleans, which is named after St. Louis.
So I'm, oh, gee, one of the things we want, good help.
I might have a bad heart, and so I could go to her and I could pay her, and I could say, I need my heart repaired.
I'm giving a pretty extreme example here, but I suppose I could say, I want a new television, or I want a new car, I want to raise, I want to be the boss, I want to be the head of my corporation.
I don't know.
Something material in life like that, and they could pay the money and she could produce.
And I'm talking also about televangelists who will tell you to send them money, and they will say prayers or conduct services to help you with whatever you want.
i mean if you can make a buck and walk among universes and make a buck same time well hey i don't know if you're going to have a have you ever heard of the Have you ever studied Buddhism at all, Professor?
Nishiren Shoshu Soka Gakkai, for example, is an interesting sect.
It's a fairly modern sect of Buddhism in Japan right now that believes that you can get what you want in this life.
And it says that if you want, it postulates if you want to pray for a raise or pray for a new refrigerator or a new television and you do a chant something like this, that you can cause that to occur.
You will get the refrigerator.
You will get the TV.
That's an entire religion based on material gain and wealth in this life.
I question that just asking, I have no problem even asking for material benefits, but I think it's pretty short-sighted to lay our eyes only on the material.
I mean, they also chant and concentrate and pray for the sick and things like that that would seem more traditional to us, but they don't stop there.
They pray to be the boss.
They pray to be the CEO.
They pray to be successful in business and life and all the rest of it.
Their entire religion is wrapped around that concept, Professor.
We're going to open the phone lines when we get back here in a few moments.
And if you have questions for Professor Franks, and I bet you do, I wonder how much of this sunk in out there.
I'm suspecting the latter hours, so quite a bit.
Really, the professor is telling us that so much of what we talk about on this program, it's all real.
It's all true.
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And we're being treated to what Professor Franks believes about everything virtually, in other words, multiple universes.
And the ability of people who practice voodoo, people who do paranormal things, the existence of the paranormal in general and everything that happens in the paranormal that can't seem to be explained by science, is explained, the professor said, by the existence of all of these universes, these dimensions.
Oh, what a question I have in a moment.
So I guess we're all like the cat.
We're, you know, six billion cats, like the beginning of the show.
Now, Professor, is it fair to say, or let me ask you in the form of a question, does humanity's survival ultimately depend on our mastery of all of this, the power of consciousness and manipulation of events and things?
Okay, so then our survival then could depend on our ability to manipulate in the fashion that the people who do voodoo or other paranormal things seem to be able to manipulate things, or like the lady you told me about, who stood down there and collected money for doing things.
Whatever, it may ultimately depend on that.
And if it does, which you seem to suggest it does, then how will Catholicism or any other mainstream religion get us there?
You know, the intelligence of the universe, God, if you would, operates at the quantum level.
And one is reminded of the story of a preacher lecturing to a group of alcoholics on the power of prayer.
The preacher asks if there are any present who don't believe in prayer.
Several hands shoot up.
The preacher then succeeds in getting each member of his audience to admit that in time of deepest need, he or she had, in fact, turned to prayer.
Each member of the audience, that is, but one who remained adamant.
So turning all his attention to the one adamant non-believer, the preacher says to him, surely there must have been a time in your life when you felt all hope was lost and you actually said a prayer.
The man admitted that indeed once there had been.
He was on a hunting trip in the far north of Canada and strayed away from his colleagues and from the campsite and became lost.
Darkness was falling.
I left my jacket and rifle back at the camp.
The sun was setting and the temperature falling rapidly.
I tried calling, shouting, but no one heard.
I had no matches to even start a fire.
I knew I was a long way from camp, but I have not the foggiest idea which direction to go.
A blizzard was sitting in, and I felt I'd die.
So yes, I admit that in that one moment of weakness, I said a prayer.
Well, retorted the preacher, your prayer obviously worked after all you're here to tell us about it.
Nope, said the man.
If an Indian on horseback hadn't ridden by at that very moment, I'd be dead now.
I mean, the intelligence of the universe operates at the quantum level, and miracles always occur one quantum step at a time and are usually explicable in retrospect in terms of natural phenomena.
Seemingly unrelated happenings cause events at hand to take an unexpected and possibly previously improbable turn.
Other people would be out in that forest, and they would have prayed and prayed and prayed, and they'd be dead as doornails, or perhaps off into another dimension.
First of all, we may travel in groups through the universe.
It's kind of like, and this is not original with me, a park in which there are several entrances, or there's an entrance at one end and an exit at the other.
And some people walk the straightest path between the two.
Others may veer off to the right, walk around the pond, look at the flowers, and rejoin the main path.
Others may veer off in yet a different direction.
But there may be a general well-trodden path through the park.
And I'm not suggesting that each of us is unique.
We are unique, yes, in the paths that we take, but not at every moment, isolated and not transversing the same set of universes that others transverse.
And if somebody's consciousness has shot off into a different universe, classic parallel universes theory would say each of those copies has a consciousness.
But classic physics has a problem with consciousness.
They admit they don't know what it is.
Anything that suggests the supernatural, they stay away from.
And if we postulate that consciousness is the only reality, and two living versions of the person exist, or an infinite number, in different universes, that individual's consciousness will inhabit only one of those.
The others are not necessarily physically dead, but they are devoid of the sense of awareness.
They behave as if they were conscious.
Back to Julian Jaynes' idea that there's nothing but matter in motion, that man has nothing beyond the brain, and it's all a phenomenon in the brain.
You know, it's really an austere revelation there with the parallel existence.
They all seem to be leading tangibly to some greater good as organized in like the finality of the kingdom of heaven or what some Christians look forward to in the rapture and such.
It's all building towards an end, it seems.
And as each stage of the process goes, each soul has an ultimate redeemable reality that they consciously follow.
My reality might see the sorrow and the passing of other people, but in their reality they don't see that sorrow and passing in themselves.
They might unconversely see the sorrow and passing in me, but in the end we reach that wonderful promise that God had brought people back together as a family.
Now with this order of events and that crystal path or that ultimate path that leads all back into the fold, so to speak, couldn't we have conversely forces deploying itself against the intent of God that are actually trying to reduce the souls back to a certain level where they become non-existent?
Even conventional parallel universe theory accepts that time is but an illusion of consciousness.
Even the Deutsch-Everett interpretations, the original theories of parallel universe accept that.
If you've got a series of static universes that are like footage in a motion picture film, only instead of going in just one line, it's arranged in a structure or lattice such that consciousness can move about within this lattice.
It might be useful to think of hexagonal tiles on a floor, or it might be useful to think of a box full of cubes stacked together.
It's not what Einstein postulated, a fourth dimension.
It's simply the perception of the conscious mind as it travels through a series of universes in a mix-and-match motion picture film that constitutes the footage for that particular individual.
Hey, I was wondering if you're, you were talking earlier about the universe is static.
Now, have you ever considered that the universe might be a holograph?
Because you look at a hologram and it encaptures a three-dimensional image on a two-dimensional surface.
And that image is static, but yet our consciousness perceives that image as three-dimensional or motion.
Now, what I'm thinking is that I've also come up with this theory earlier about that our consciousness moves through these parallel universes at a certain speed, but that the speed is sort of like, you know, extraction of the past events are based on future events which flow through our consciousness.
And that since we occupy space, I hope I'm not sounding too crazy.
Well, he's mixing a little Einsteinian relativity, which has a concept of a flow of time with the parallel universes theory, which basically says time is but an illusion of the mind moving through these separate universes.
And let me put some terminology in here as well.
The collection of all of these universes, if they're dynamic, if each of them is having motion in it, conventional quantum cosmology would call the multiverse.
I'm calling it the super universe, borrowing the term from the Urantia book without endorsing the Urantia book.
The super universe is the collection, the egg carton containing all of these separate universes which are not dynamic or moving.
It's consciousness moving through them.
Much like film moving through a projector creates the illusion of motion.
That seemed like a good contemporary question to ask, yes.
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I feel that the individual has the power to navigate through this system of probable realities we're discussing by way of his beliefs.
In other words, if he believes the sun is going to destroy the earth and he begins to believe this along these lines, he automatically tunes into that reality and then gravitates to others who share those belief systems.
And what happens is together they navigate towards that probable reality.
And by way of the intensity of their belief, they actually, you know, let's say, merge with the experience, with the event.
All right, so stay right there, and we'll come right back to you.
Good evening, everybody.
This is fairly complicated stuff, but I think most of you are able to grasp at least enough of the edges, because that's some of what I've been doing, to understand what it is we're talking about.
is fascinating stuff it may be the stuff of I'll be back in a moment with the professor.
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Okay, the point I was trying to make is that given our system of probable realities, the static system he was talking about, the vehicle we use to zip through from one reality to another is basically our belief systems.
And because our belief systems are acting as a kind of like a power station that's drawing us to our experience, so your beliefs basically are determining what probability you're zipping to.
And so if you were wanting to end up in a safe universe, if you're believing in a safe universe, basically the Earth you're living in is not going to turn into bacon based on the sun's reactions or whatever's going on there.
But those people that are experiencing all these, looking for these signs that the universe is going to have a catastrophic ending, are grouping together, they're sharing their beliefs, they're talking about it, and they're basically, through their belief systems, gravitating, zipping through over to that static reality where the Earth did come to it.
Yeah, there's a lot of that that does go on, come to think of it.
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Art, before I talk to this professor, I'd like to say that there's a difference between going to Wiccans and going to Alastair Crowley or people like that.
There are good Wiccans, there are bad Wiccans, there are good voodoos, they're bad voodoos.
Sure.
So don't be afraid of that.
What I want to ask is, what about infrared film?
I've heard that people have taken pictures of empty parking lots with infrared film, and when they develop it, they see pictures of cars that were parked there years before.
Right, although I've had some experience with infrared film back in my high school days when I was photo editor of my high school newspaper and I'd show up at school dances and take pictures in infrared.
I've never seen cars in a parking lot and I don't know why infrared film.
Now, granted, if there were cars parked in a parking lot earlier in the day, there'd be shadows.
The pavement would be warmer where the cars weren't parked, and you'd see the shadows of the cars where they were earlier in the day, but as far as weeks or months or years ago, I've heard of anomalies like that, and I just have to assume it's the consciousness of visiting frames or universes in this lattice, in this egg carton of universes, where that is the reality.
That's the only way I can explain it.
And I'd like to invite this lady to visit my website.
The first chapter of my book is up there for anybody to read.
And you get to my website through ARTS website, www.coast2coast.
Hey, it's great to speak with both of you tonight.
Thank you.
In regard to my own personal experience as of going through life in my reality and it's splitting off into all these different universes, do any of the universes ever converge so that I can essentially be myself?
In fact, the theory, and this is one problem that conventional parallel universes have, that they have our consciousnesses splitting into myriad copies every instant that are unaware of the existence of each other.
But the theory requires also that pasts converge or merge into a present.
And I'm not aware of having had umpteen million different histories.
As I'm not aware of myself splitting into the future, it just doesn't ring true unless you make the universes static.
But sure, the film Frequency, starring Dennis Quaid, was an example of pasts merging into the future.
A very authentic film in terms of parallel universes theory.
A brilliant film.
And sure they do.
Sure, multiple pasts can merge into the future.
And this may also explain why people come to the same event with different memories of the past.
There are sometimes, Professor, mass memories of things that apparently didn't happen.
Now, this is confusing, but I'm going to give you an example.
There are many people, for example, who, en masse, believed that Nelson Mandela died in prison.
It's almost like a large group of people in this country, or for all I know in the world, remembered a time when Nelson Mandela died in prison.
They remembered that instead of the fact that he didn't die, and he went on To become the president of South Africa.
So I wonder what this might mean.
I wonder if there might be mass splits between these parallel universes or realities that we've been discussing, static or not, that there might be a time split in which people for some reason seem to have collected a memory of something that maybe it did happen somewhere else like that.
Yeah, I think you've hit it right on the head, Art.
There has to have been a parallel universe because we're required to accept that by the multiple realities theory that every universe that conceivably could exist exists.
There has to have been a series of parallel universes.
Remember, each is like a frame in motion picture footage.
There has to be a string or a series of them in which Mr. Mandela died.
How else do you explain also the fact that an article appeared in a newspaper in Australia before President Kennedy was murdered telling of his assassination?
And we're not talking about a date difference because of the international date line.
We're talking absolutely appeared in the paper before he died.
Now, this comes out of the movie JFK, but I've got to tell you right now that Oliver Stone, I was present at the trial of Clay Shaw for conspiracy to assassinate President Kennedy.
I was in the courtroom at that trial.
I'm 61 years old, and I had just graduated from law school.
I was down in New Orleans.
They had only a few seats open for the public.
I applied for one of them, and I got it.
And I can tell you that Oliver Stone's movie on that subject is so accurate, it is uncanny.
And because of those accuracies, I tend to believe the representation of the newspaper article.
It's based on Garrison's book, and I worked for Garrison long, long ago.
We're going back 30-some years.
But I worked for Jim Garrison back then.
And when the film and the book represent that this occurred in a newspaper in Australia, I've never gone and researched the newspaper, but I have no reason to doubt it.
They're from what I consider highly credible sources.
Of course, my former boss is a highly credible source to me in any event.
Yes, he's written a lot about parallel universes and alternative realities, sort of the predecessor to Philip K. Dick.
I think it's Life in the Labyrinth, there's a chapter called Invocation of the Absolute that talks about the timeless, spaceless state with no qualities being the absolute, which we can't imagine, right?
Because we can't imagine anything that doesn't have physical coordinates, right?
I'll ask Professor Franks if he's heard of T.E. Bearden or Lewis E. Little.
They both wrote somewhat similar theories that get around Schrodinger as a cat in the Copenhagen School and also Bohm's variation on that.
So that the photon or electron that goes through the slits appears like a steady object.
It's not broken down into parts or aggregate of wavelets or wave packets, but that the energy field generated by the environment, whatever measurement you use, is itself transmitted instantly to This electron that's being detected in the two-slit experiment.
In other words, you're saying there is a connection.
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There's a connection, there's metric parallelism, but it's in the local measurement environment, and it doesn't involve this uncertainty that you open the box and lo and behold, then and there you've decided whether the cat is alive or dead.
I'm very familiar with Bell's theorem and with Bohm's interpretation of it and with Alain Aspect's experiment confirming Bohm's interpretation and Bell's theorem.
I have to admit that Bearden and Little are not familiar to me, but if you want to email me something on that, you can certainly do so through my website, which you get to through Art's website, and I'd love to hear that from you, sir.
We've been talking around the fact as far as other consciousnesses and our consciousness.
Let me come right to the bottom line and say, Professor, what do you think of the idea that really there's only one consciousness which is sort of identical to the grand existence itself that just navigates through these static universes?
Because if the frames are static, there is nothing else to interact with there as far as a consciousness goes.
How would you know if a point had a consciousness in it or not?
You wouldn't know if a human being conforms to the Skinnerian model of matter in motion, the Julian Jaynes model of matter in motion, that doesn't acknowledge the consciousness of human beings, or whether that particular human being is inhabited by a conscious mind.
But I don't believe that there's just one consciousness.
It's an interesting and fascinating concept, but it somehow doesn't ring true to me.
I believe I am a unique individual.
And my consciousness is...
Well, we realize there's Carl Jung's collective unconscious, but I believe the collective unconscious can be explained, as can all occult phenomena, with the particular gloss I've placed on it.
And the particular gloss I've placed on conventional parallel universes makes everything paranormal, everything miraculous.
Faith healing, witchcraft, you name it, telepathy, it all comes clear with this fairly simple theory expressed in a fairly short and simple book.
And by the way, for those who are interested in looking into the book, don't believe any dot-com that says they don't have it.
They'll have it within a day or two.
And just go right ahead on it if you're interested.
I copyrighted it many years ago as an unpublished manuscript.
I updated it, sent it off to a major occult publisher up in Minnesota who expressed immediate interest in it, but then they wanted me to rewrite it entirely to their liking, and I was unwilling to make the changes they wanted.
I found a great publisher, iUniverse.
They're wonderful to work with.
They published it.
It's brand new.
This is the first interview I've done on the book.
You write the first copy of the book that came off the press's art.