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Nov. 11, 2002 - Art Bell

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Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - Spiritual Messenger - Neale Donald Walsch

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	♪♪ And good morning, good evening, wherever you may be, across
	the nation, around the world.
	I'm George Norrie, in for Art Bell, and this is, of course, Coast to Coast AM.
	We've got open lines for you this hour, so unless you don't have your phone numbers tattooed to your body, here are the numbers.
	West of the Rockies, 1-800-618-8255.
	East of the Rockies, 800-825-5033.
	618-8255 East of the Rockies, 800-825-5033. First-time callers 541-665-0520 and the wildcard line 541-665-0521.
	I'm opening up a special line in a moment.
	I'll tell you why.
	Joining the family of long coast-to-coast stations.
	WXDX in Detroit, Michigan, my hometown.
	Talk Radio 1310.
	Many thanks to General Manager Dave Hughes and Program Director Rona Danziger.
	Thanks for joining.
	You'll love the show, and as Art has always said, It's different.
	It's different.
	What's going on with these storms?
	Last night on the air, we were talking about storms that had hit just a few states.
	By the time we got off the air, 70 tornadoes, 70 of them, cut through six states from Louisiana to Pennsylvania.
	In November, Killing at least 36 people now.
	Injuring more than 200.
	Scores still missing.
	Cutting a path of destruction.
	Right through.
	Many dead in Tennessee and Alabama.
	Five in Ohio and Mississippi and Pennsylvania.
	Just a very tragic situation.
	Dan McCarthy of the Federal Storm Prediction Center in Norman, Oklahoma says, This is really unseasonably warm weather that we had in the 80s, followed by a cold front, making conditions ripe for the rash of twisters, some of which were estimated to be at least in the F3 category.
	That's a pretty big one.
	With winds ranging from 158 to 206 miles an hour, it was the nation's biggest swarm of tornadoes from a single weather system since more than 70 twisters, some topping 300 miles an hour, killed 44 people in Oklahoma and Kansas in May of 1999.
	But there was something really strange going on with the weather.
	That's why I'd also like to open up our special phone line tonight as well.
	Those of you who have been unfortunate to be in really violent weather, I'd like you to call this phone number, 541-665-3880.
	541-665-3880.
	If you were in very violent weather, I'd like you to relate your stories to us.
	I never have.
	I have never witnessed a tornado.
	I've been in some severe thunderstorms.
	That's about it.
	But I have not been in the big stuff.
	Not the hurricanes.
	Nothing like that.
	Some other news.
	Would you spend $1,000 for a mushroom?
	How about $35,000?
	An American restaurateur has spent $35,000 on a rare giant mushroom.
	An American restaurateur has spent $35,000 on a rare giant mushroom.
	This is a 2.5 pound white truffle from Italy and has set a record for the price of a single
	truffle.
	Now, he will use it in his restaurants in West Hollywood.
	He's got a French restaurant there called Bastide.
	That is one heck of a price to pay for a mushroom.
	Meanwhile, a spectacular display of shooting stars, not likely to be repeated for the next 30 years, takes place next week.
	The Leonid meteors generate a shower of activity every November, but this year they are predicted to whip up quite a storm as well.
	It will happen around 4 a.m.
	Tuesday, November 19th, 4 a.m.
	Eastern Time, the Leonids are not expected to return in such numbers until at least 2034.
	Now...
	They can be seen in any part of the sky.
	Among the best places to watch are the northeastern to southeastern skies from around 3 to 5 a.m.
	when the moon is dipping lower in the west.
	Anyone hoping to see the shooting stars should face obviously away from the moon, get that light away, or hide behind a rooftop or some wall.
	Street and house lights should be avoided.
	This is going to be a remarkable For some, once in a lifetime now, comes around now, the next one, 30 years.
	So take advantage of that.
	You know, I've never had the opportunity to physically save someone, witnessing anything like that.
	A Welsh couple saved two lives while flying to and from Cuba.
	Not one, but two.
	One on the way, and another on the flight home.
	They're paramedics.
	They were first called when a man in his forties collapsed on their Monarch Airlines flight to the island.
	Then on the flight home, the pair stepped in when a woman suffered a suspected heart attack.
	This is an amazing story.
	The first incident happened six hours into the flight from Gatwick, when the captain asked for assistance after the man collapsed at the back of the plane.
	One of the paramedics, his name is John Blayden, said, while he had high blood pressure, it kept dropping, which was why he kept fainting.
	We gave him oxygen, we got him on his back, and got his legs propped up, stayed with him for a couple hours until we landed, and the Cuban medics took over on that situation.
	But the other one...
	He believed that the woman was suffering a heart attack, and he told the pilot to divert to Canada to save some valuable time there.
	He said, I decided it was the best to go back to Canada rather than continue to Ireland, which was four hours away.
	I didn't know if she would last four hours.
	Most of the passengers were fine about it.
	Listen to this.
	This is the part that gets me.
	Most of the passengers were fine with the diversion.
	Two were very unhappy.
	Now, the woman's okay now, but here's a woman who possibly could have been dying of a heart attack, and a couple people on the plane were upset that they had to go to another destination for a while.
	Someone in Aurora, Colorado has been doing something that I think is despicable.
	Killing, mutilating animals in Denver, in Aurora, Colorado.
	Officials there are concerned.
	At least ten cats, two squirrels, one rabbit have been dissected since mid-July.
	Pet owners and neighbors say that the carcasses were left near their homes.
	There's a professor of criminal justice at the Metropolitan State College and he says the killings are indeed alarming.
	He says the kind of person capable of such cruelty appears to have little concern for life in general.
	And he says someone like that could be violent towards humans and very dangerous.
	The United States is still on the hunt for terrorists in the first war of the 21st century.
	It will not let Iraq aid any of those thugs, according to President Bush.
	He said today Saddam Hussein will fully disarm and prove that he has done so, or America will lead a coalition to disarm him.
	He will commit, according to Bush, the full force and might of the United States military, and he says we will prevail.
	Meanwhile, This could be considered disturbing if you believe that our rights are being whittled away.
	The Pentagon is constructing a huge computer system right now that could create a vast electronic dragnet searching for personal information as part of the hunt for terrorists around the globe.
	Now that's an important fact here and that is something that we all believe to be necessary, right?
	Here's the take.
	It will provide intelligence analysts and law enforcement officials with instant access information to your internet mail, calling records to credit cards, banking transactions, travel documents, all of this.
	Without a search warrant.
	Now, historically, military and intelligence agencies have not been permitted to spy on Americans without very extraordinary legal authorization.
	But that is changing now, and you need to be aware of that.
	This, of course, being Veterans Day, I've got to read something that I always do.
	It's kind of tradition for me.
	Now, this was written By a Marine for Marines.
	I was in the Navy, so we all need to understand that this was written by a Marine.
	And by the way, the Marines turned 227 years old on November 10th.
	So happy birthday, Marines.
	But let me read this to you.
	In the beginning was the word.
	The Word was God, and the beginning was God, and all else was darkness and void and without form.
	So God created the heavens and the earth, and He created the sun and the moon and the stars, so that light might pierce the darkness.
	The earth God divided between the land and the sea, and these He filled with many assorted creatures.
	And the dark, salty, slimy creatures that inhabited the murky depths of the oceans God called sailors.
	And he dressed them accordingly, with little trousers that looked like bells at the bottom, with cute little flaps on their shirts to hide hickeys on their necks.
	He also gave them long sideburns and shabby-looking beards, and God nicknamed them squids, and banished them to a lifetime at sea, so that the normal folks would not have to associate with them.
	And to further identify these unloved creatures, he called them Petty and Commodore, instead of titles worthy of red-blooded men.
	And the flighty creatures of the land God called soldiers.
	With a twinkle in his eye and a sense of humor that only he could have had, God made their trousers too short and covers too large and pockets to warm their hands.
	And to adorn their uniforms, God gave them badges and quantities that only a dime store owner could appreciate.
	And he gave them emblems and crests and all sorts of shiny things that glittered and devices that dangled.
	You know, when you're God, you tend to get carried away sometimes in a big way.
	On the fifth day, he thought about creating some air creatures, for which he designed a greyhound bus driver's uniform, especially for flyboys.
	But he discarded the idea during the first week, and it was not until years later that some apostles resurrected this theme and established what we now know as the Wild Blue Yonder Wonders.
	And on the seventh day, as you know, God rested.
	But on the eighth day, at 0700, God looked down upon the earth and was not happy.
	God was not happy.
	So he thought about his labors, and in his infinite wisdom, God created a divine creature, and he called this a marine.
	And these marines, who God had created in his own image, were to be of the air, and of the land, and of the sea, and these he gave many wonderful uniforms.
	Some were green, some were blue with red trim, and in the early days, some were even a beautiful tan.
	He gave them practical fighting uniforms that they could wage war against the forces of Satan and evil.
	He gave them service uniforms for their daily work and training that they might be sharp and ready.
	And he gave them evening and dress uniforms, sharp, stylish, handsome things so that they might promenade with their ladies on Saturday night and impress the heck out of everybody.
	He even gave them swords so that people who were not impressed could be dealt with.
	And at the end of the eighth day, God looked down upon the earth, and he saw that it was good.
	But was God happy?
	No.
	God was still not happy, because in the course of his labors, he had forgotten one thing.
	He did not have a marine uniform himself.
	But he thought about it, and he thought about it, and finally satisfied himself in knowing that, well, not everybody can be called a marine.
	But to everybody who has served in the armed forces on behalf of everybody at Coast to Coast, we salute you.
	So in a moment, open lines.
	I'm George Norrie.
	Don't touch your dial.
	And this is Coast to Coast.
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	Welcome back to Coast to Coast.
	I'm George Norrie.
	By the way, if you ever want to email me, all you have to do to go to Art Bell's website is go to www.artbell.com.
	You click on Interact, Email Hosts, and Fire Away, like this one.
	George, about 10 years ago, I was living in a home in Baltimore, Maryland, with my two young daughters, and I was talking on the phone with my brother, who was a bachelor at the time, living alone.
	My two girls were on the living room floor watching TV in front of me when my brother and myself heard clear as a bell the voice of a little girl say, hello.
	And he at first thought it was one of my children picking up the second phone in the house.
	And when I told him that they were on the floor in front of me and that the phone I was on, I could clearly see across the room with the handheld phone on its face.
	Two nights later, I heard someone call, Mommy!
	I checked my girls who were sound asleep and upon going down the hallway to the kitchen, I heard what was directly behind me, the voice say Mommy again.
	I felt very uneasy and not knowing why, asked out loud just not to show itself.
	I continued living there for a year more after that and With only hearing sounds of footsteps once in a while, or a cold draft here and there, I never heard her voice again.
	Ooh, that is a little chilling.
	Let's go to the phones.
	First time caller, welcome to Coast to Coast.
	You are on the air.
	Hi there.
	Hello?
	Hello.
	You are there.
	Okay, good.
	Yeah.
	This is Coast to Coast.
	You came to reply.
	AM 640.
	Well, the Kingdom of Nigh is where art is.
	I am somewhere else out there.
	Okay.
	I called to relate a dream.
	Okay.
	What is it?
	I'm standing in front of my window.
	The grapes are open.
	Looming in the horizon is a large double plate.
	I play it.
	Fine saucer.
	Going to parts unknown.
	Destination unknown.
	The grapes are closed.
	I know they're outside.
	I don't know what they want.
	I don't have anything to do with them.
	But they're still there.
	They won't go away.
	I know they won't go away.
	I'm outside.
	I'm with them.
	I have to go.
	There are five of them.
	They look like the Greys.
	The Communion.
	And, um... How many times do you dream this?
	Well, I've had an event.
	Um, I, I, I tell them the, one of them has their arms over me, crisscrossed over me.
	And, um, I'm forced to go where they want.
	I have to say that if I'm sincere, if we have the same goals and the same values, there's no need to use force.
	And so he relents and lets me, lets me, he relents.
	He still has his tentacles around my legs.
	I go with him.
	The other is involved in a fight.
	Do you go voluntarily, or does he slide you in with his tentacles?
	At this point, no, I'm voluntarily.
	Even though my lower legs are restrained, I'm still free.
	In fact, I feel empowered.
	Sounds more like a nightmare, doesn't it?
	A number of the others of the humans, I know them, engage in fight with humans.
	And at the end of it, they're transformed.
	At this point, I suggest to my companion that he might wish to be transformed as well.
	They're transmuted, I should say.
	There's change in appearance.
	And what do they transform him into?
	They transmute into human form.
	Human appearance.
	I suggest to my companion, the other Aryan who has me, that he change into human form as well.
	Why do you think you're dreaming this?
	Well, I think it just shows that I'm ambivalent, George.
	You see, there's a different attitude.
	I'm fearful, and I'm trying to cooperate with him, but I think it shows that I'm basically ambivalent towards E.T.
	How do you know it's cooperation?
	Why do you think this is a dream?
	What if it's really happening to you?
	Well, I was asleep at the time.
	Yeah, but a lot of this happens when you're asleep, doesn't it?
	These abduction cases, isn't that possible?
	I just thought, because I thought that people Good morning, George.
	your audience but enjoy hearing the story that's my sole motivation and I
	anyhow by the way I didn't know where they were closed or on closed in my
	dream does it matter didn't matter my dream not at all thank you very much
	appreciate it you always check in that's a first-time caller let's go to our
	special phone line people who are in severe and violent weather welcome to
	coast to coast hi there morning George this is Tom out of Oklahoma tough
	weather in Oklahoma all the time, isn't it?
	Yes, yes.
	This year has been pretty slow, though.
	I think in our area of Tulsa, we only had five tornadoes, and usually it's over 50 or 60.
	And this happened in 99 when we had a couple of bad ones.
	I was in my truck, and I was in northern Oklahoma at 3 in the morning.
	And it's severe lightning, raining, everything.
	And I know a storm's coming, because it's starting to rain real hard and heavy.
	I'm trying to find a spot to pull over, which, up there in the salt plains, is flatter than flat.
	You know, you can hide from.
	And, uh, I got the scanner on and it says, if you're on a Cherokee or a highlander, take cover now, there's a tornado on the ground.
	And it's pitch dark and the rain is just coming at you one direction, then it's switching to another direction.
	And I'm talking about the most fearful thing is not knowing where it's coming from.
	And I've got to, I've got to rain so hard it actually hurts when it hits your skin.
	Yes, and it's, it, well, the truck had the windows up completely, and I was getting drenched inside the truck.
	That's how hard it was raining.
	It was coming from the left side, then it pumped from straight on, from the right side.
	And I got, I just kept on going.
	I was heavy, I was 80,000 pounds in a tanker, and I just kept on going.
	First truck stopped by a little fuel stop, I pulled over, and I was trolled out there, and they said, where'd you come from?
	I said, You probably were.
	You probably were.
	there's a tornado on the ground there. I said I think I was in it. You probably were. You
	probably were. Did you, but it was so dark you really couldn't see the thing could you?
	I couldn't see anything. I mean it was raining so hard I just tried to stay in the middle
	of the road and you know they say to get out of your vehicle but I think I would have been
	worse off if I got out of the vehicle.
	I tell you, I saw a picture, and thanks for the call, I saw a picture of one of the tornadoes that buzzed through Ohio, and I'm telling you, that thing was huge.
	Absolutely frightening.
	More of your phone calls.
	I'm George Norrie and this is Coast to Coast AM.
	Music playing.
	Music playing.
	Checking WHAM's radar weather for the remainder of the overnight.
	Just partly cloudy skies.
	It's going to be cool.
	Maybe a little bit of fog in some of the valleys later tonight.
	Temperature down to about 40 degrees.
	30s south of Rochester.
	Tuesday becoming mainly gray.
	A couple of rain showers late in the afternoon, especially east of Rochester.
	The high temperature in the upper 40s.
	Wednesday mostly cloudy.
	Mid 40s.
	A few more rain showers arrive again on Thursday.
	This is WHAM News Sauce 13 meteorologist Glenn Johnson.
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	As you know, this is Bill's last week.
	And I just want to say, there's not a more loyal, hard-working guy around.
	To Bill!
	Wow, 33 years.
	Well, first of all, I want to thank everyone for this wonderful party.
	Over the years, I've made a lot of friends here.
	And there are lots of people I'd like to recognize for helping me, but most of all, I'd like to thank Rob.
	Rob saved my life at work last year when I had my heart attack.
	If he hadn't given me CPR, I probably wouldn't be here giving this speech.
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	An important fiscal message from County Executive Jack Doyle.
	When I was first elected, I promised the community that I would never balance the burden of county government on the backs of taxpayers.
	We all know the economy took a downturn, causing stress on family and government budgets.
	But during these difficult times, I commit to you that I will follow through on my pledge to hold down your taxes.
	That's why I've introduced a tax stability plan that makes some tough choices, but it balances our county budget without raising taxes.
	A property tax increase would destroy the dreams of young families trying to buy a first home, parents saving for their children's education, and seniors who want to pass on what they worked so hard to earn.
	We must reform county government to do more with less, protecting taxpayers while maintaining vital services, like public safety.
	We can get through this short-term crisis.
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	a on Coast to Coast AM from west of the Rockies at 1 a.m.
	East of the Rockies at 1-800-825-5033.
	First-time callers may reach George at area code 541-665-0520.
	And the wildcard line is open at area code 541-665-0521.
	First time callers may reach George at area code 541-665-0520.
	And the wildcard line is open at area code 541-665-0521.
	Now, here again is George Norrie.
	At the top of the hour, my guest will be Neal Donald Walsh.
	One of the world's most prolific spiritual messengers.
	Writers.
	He'll tell his story, of course.
	But he claims that he had a conversation with God.
	I want to tell you a little bit Get your pencil out for a moment.
	You've got some paper.
	I'm going to give you some phone numbers here.
	You know, for years, a lot of you have been asking that where can they get an Art Bell t-shirt or coast-to-coast hat or something that shows the world that they love coast-to-coast.
	Well, many believe that you could always find this merchandise.
	You just couldn't find it before, right?
	It's a little like Bigfoot.
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	Now let me tell you a little bit about the After Dark newsletter.
	Where you still get that great deal of 14 issues for the price of 12.
	Now, After Dark is a part of Coast to Coast.
	Been around for a long time.
	It's got thousands of subscribers.
	If you are not a part of the Coast to Coast team that picks up After Dark, well, you're missing something.
	So here's a number for that.
	And again, 14 issues for the price of 12.
	They throw in 2.
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	That is 1-888-727-5505.
	1-888-727-5505. Back in a moment.
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	George, my first job out of school, I was an EMT with my local EMS, okay?
	I then became a firefighter on a volunteer status.
	I now work for the state's drug detection unit.
	I have had some pretty unusual events happen to me in the last four years or so.
	I've been haunted, for lack of better words, by people that I either tried to save during an ambulance run, fire call, or that I witnessed, let's say, the autopsy of.
	There have been times when I have been literally afraid to take a shower without my wife being in the bathroom, because I knew that if I opened the shower curtain, someone or something would be right there.
	I've never been one to believe in ghosts or spirits.
	I was just wondering if this has ever happened to anyone else in the medical profession, doctors, nurses, paramedics, I really have a hectic work schedule, but I try to listen to the show whenever I can.
	That's Sergeant Mark out there.
	Well, that is a very, uh... I don't know.
	You know, there's nothing worse than opening up a shower curtain and seeing some entity looking right back at you, huh?
	Let's go to the calls.
	Let's go.
	Wildcard caller, you are on Coast to Coast.
	You may proceed.
	Hi there!
	Hi, George.
	Welcome.
	Hi, this is Mark in the San Fernando Valley.
	Oh, sure.
	Hi, Mark.
	Still part of L.A.
	after the ballot.
	Yes, it is.
	But I thought I would share a little of my own experience with God, whom I've described in the past as not only his or her own being, but also the ultimate split personality.
	I believe that God speaks through every voice.
	And I think the clearest means of communication is the events and situations that occur in our day-to-day lives, with the results and lessons.
	So, I think one would deduce that there is such a thing as morality just from our day-to-day struggles.
	Of course.
	Now, as proof of my experience, I do think that God gave me genealogical evidence, for example, In my family tree, I noticed that there were family ties with Alfred Hitchcock.
	I remembered the situation presented in the movie Rebecca.
	No, no.
	What do you mean, family ties with Alfred Hitchcock?
	Well, the Hitchcock lineage.
	Oh, really?
	And also the Ken Russell lineage.
	I don't know if you've seen his films, but... I thought for a moment Hitchcock had made movies about your family or something.
	Well, Rebecca, it's a little close to home.
	In my own case, but Ken Russell also made the movie Tommy.
	I've also had symbols in my life.
	For example, I've actually experienced burning bushes.
	When I was working at Paramount Pictures, of course, that studio is known for its mountain logo, so that was sort of like going to the mountain.
	Sure.
	I get messages all the time, as I've mentioned before, t-shirts, bumper stickers.
	There's a lot of what people would call paranormal events in my life.
	For example, pennies manifesting around me.
	And a myriad of other events.
	But as one to whom God and Christ has revealed themselves, I must raise the question when someone claims that there is no such thing as right or wrong, then whatever is there in existence worthy of God's love?
	Because mankind is going to be a colossal failure unless we spiritually evolve to a level where we can simply accept responsibility in our actions.
	Well, don't you think, and thanks for the call, don't you think the biggest problem with mankind is his inability to really understand the cosmos?
	Because I think if he did that first, he'd get a better handle on just what might be out there.
	And that's why I'm looking forward to my interview with our guest at the top of the hour, Neal Donald Walsh, because, you know, he claims that he has had a conversation with God.
	Now, does he still continue that?
	We'll find out.
	And how does he even know that it is God?
	What if it's something else?
	What if it's some kind of being or an entity?
	So, this one I'm looking forward to.
	Let's go to our special line.
	You are on Coast to Coast.
	Welcome to the program.
	Hi there.
	Hi, George.
	Yes, sir.
	Hi, my name's Rick.
	I'm calling you from Chicago.
	Hello, Rick.
	WLS.
	WLS, the powerhouse of the Windy City.
	Yep, the big lightning bolt.
	I'm calling because, uh, I did go through a storm.
	Um, and I've lived in Chicago my whole life.
	I'm 39 years old.
	Anyway... What kind of a storm did you go through?
	Well, it started out as a beautiful, you know, cloudy day.
	Sun peeking through the clouds.
	And, um, it took my, well, my son at the time was about three and a half years old.
	I put him on my bike, you know, in the little child seat.
	We went for a ride.
	Hey, you have to excuse me, I'm a little nervous.
	No, no, no, don't be nervous.
	You know what?
	If you're going to be nervous, you would have been nervous in the storm, not on Coast to Coast.
	Well, anyway, it wasn't windy.
	We went for a bike ride.
	We were out for about an hour.
	All of a sudden, it became windy.
	And I was probably at that time only like about five minutes from my house.
	By the time that I decided, well, you know, it's starting to get windy.
	I want to drive home or ride home.
	I'm sorry.
	Right.
	By the time I got to my back door to put my bike away, I thought I was going to be blown off my bike.
	And this storm rolled in so fast.
	I couldn't even open up my back door, because that's the direction the wind was coming at.
	You thought you were going to be doing one of the Wizard of Oz routines, huh?
	Actually, I thought I was in the Wizard of Oz.
	I thought I was daydreaming.
	But, I grabbed my son off my bike.
	I just laid my bike down on the ground.
	I actually parked it up against my porch.
	I grabbed him.
	I decided, well, the wind won't let me open up, because I had him in one arm.
	If I couldn't open up the back door, I know I'm going to be able to open up the front door.
	So I went to the front door, and as I was going to the front door, now it didn't even start raining out yet, and the ground wasn't even wet yet.
	And as soon as I went around my fence to go to the front door, I have two cherry blossom trees in the front.
	Well, one of them was uprooted right out of the ground.
	How big was the tree?
	Was it a little tree or a big tree?
	It was probably about two stories tall.
	My gosh!
	Yeah, I want to say about 17 to 20 feet tall.
	You might have been right in the middle of a tornado.
	No!
	I was watching the news when I walked, when I went out.
	I was looking, all there was was a storm just blew in so fast that I'm just, I just couldn't believe it.
	I just, I grabbed my son.
	My only thought in my mind at that time was to get me and my son into the house.
	I mean, it was hailing out a little.
	I've heard stories, Rick, that people have been picked up and dropped off in certain places, some of them miraculously still alive.
	I saw your last caller who was mentioning about daily lessons in God.
	Yes.
	This was one of my daily lessons.
	I would guess so.
	I was just amazed that I made it in the house.
	I mean, I wasn't even wet.
	And as soon as I got into the house, I'm looking out my window to see what's going on.
	And then it started downpouring.
	But the thing that amazed me is you'd think that the tree would rip out of the ground after the ground was saturated from the wind.
	Sure.
	But the ground wasn't even saturated.
	The wind just ripped the tree right out of the ground.
	That's a powerful force.
	That's scary stuff, I'll tell you.
	Scary, scary stuff.
	West of the Rockies.
	Your turn on Coast to Coast.
	Hi there.
	Hi, George.
	Yes, sir.
	I have an interesting scenario that I'd like to run by you.
	All right, let's give it a try.
	Okay, let's say this whole Iraqi situation breaks down and we end up going to war.
	Okay, which is very possible.
	Which is very possible.
	Now, no doubt Hussein would resist, and the first thing he'll do is shoot a bunch of missiles at Israel to try and start World War III in the Middle East.
	Okay.
	Okay, let's say one or two of these missiles get through the anti-missile system the Israelis have, and they actually hit the Dome of the Rock, destroying it.
	Well, the entire Middle East would call for Hussein's head on a silver platter for destroying Islam's third most holiest site, and the Israelis would gain a bunch of vacant land to build their third temple on.
	Unless they blame us for Hussein launching the missile.
	Well, okay, but I mean technically out of the rubble they would dig Husseini parts from the missile.
	So there would be no mistaking where it came from.
	Possible.
	But it is an interesting scenario, because the Israelis will never destroy the Dome of the Rock, because that would provoke World War III in the Middle East.
	So somehow, some way to make Bible prophecy happen, the Dome of the Rock has to be moved out of the way, and a Hussein missile would seem to do an ideal job of it.
	Do you think he's aiming one right out there?
	Well, I don't know, but I mean, if he's gonna shot... Now, I think he has an upgraded missile.
	He doesn't have the scuds anymore.
	I think he's got something better from the Chinese.
	But, you know, if it's something bigger and better, one missile might have the capability to take out the Dome of the Rock clean with one shot.
	I had read that they thought he might have about a dozen Scuds hidden away somewhere.
	I heard he got some more upgraded missiles from the Chinese that are even bigger and better than the Scuds.
	But, I mean, who knows, you know?
	I'm not an arms inspector.
	I think we're going to find out pretty soon.
	It would be an interesting scenario to see the Dome of the Rock removed by Hussein.
	Well, I'm not sure I'd like to see that happen, but it would be interesting.
	Thanks for the call.
	Next up, let's go east of the Rockies.
	Your turn on Coast to Coast.
	Hi there.
	Hey, how you doing?
	Good.
	Where are you calling from?
	Florida, Georgia.
	Georgia.
	Good.
	What's your name?
	Michael.
	Hello, Michael.
	And it's raining here.
	Oh, he's just... Yeah.
	Anyway, what I wanted to tell you is I had a couple of weird things happen to me when I was in the military in 1971.
	I'm concerned the UFO...
	But I'll get to the first little story right first.
	I was at Fort Polk in 1970.
	Went through training, and we had just about finished our training, and everybody was just about headed for Vietnam.
	They took us at 3 o'clock in the morning out in the woods.
	We was all half asleep.
	And they had us sit on these bleachers, and they had a podium there, you know, with the sergeants and some officers.
	And they was telling us, don't trust anything you see or hear.
	And they had a North Vietnamese soldier come out in the middle there, you know, between the bleachers and was talking and stuff.
	And the sergeant walked up to him and waved his hand to him and he disappeared.
	He disappeared?
	I swear to God, it wasn't there.
	I mean, we've seen it.
	And if you'd have looked, you'd have said it's real.
	And it wasn't 3D.
	It was 4D.
	I mean, it was there.
	And then all of a sudden, a great big genie come up by the podium at least 20 feet tall.
	It was color.
	You know how you see the Television shows today with the cartoon characters.
	Yeah, that huge thing.
	Yeah, and it was big and it was talking and, you know, all kind of crazy.
	Oh, you're pulling my leg.
	No, I'm not pulling your leg.
	I swear to God.
	I've always tried to figure out, and we weren't supposed to say anything about it.
	And matter of fact, I think we even signed a paper or something to that effect.
	With the genie, like, puffed out of what, a lamp or something?
	No, it just appeared.
	It was like a little, some smoke, you know, there.
	By the podium, then all of a sudden it appeared and it was like 20 feet tall, and it was moving and talking, its lips were moving, its eyes, and it was really weird.
	What was it?
	You think it was like a hologram?
	Yeah, right.
	That's what I was thinking.
	And, you know, that's the only conclusion I could come to years later.
	Of course, I was young then, didn't know, none of us did.
	And, you know, they was going on about don't trust anything you see and only have what You know, you hear they don't believe anything you hear.
	Were they trying to scare you?
	No, they were trying to show us that, you know, you can be fooled by what you see.
	And it wasn't really there, they just created it.
	Well, it worked, whatever they did.
	I'll tell you, first time caller, welcome to Coast to Coast.
	You are on the air.
	Hi there.
	Hi, how are you doing, George?
	Good, I'm doing great.
	Hi, this is Michael.
	I'm calling from East Boston, Massachusetts.
	Uh-huh.
	I get you on the 50,000 power station on WRKO up here.
	Oh, it's a great, that entire region's out there is great.
	Oh, yeah.
	Anyways, I've been listening to the Coast to Coast show now for a couple years.
	My wife got me into it.
	Actually, you know, they have a lot of questions on some of these forms you fill out.
	If you have trouble sleeping, they should ask if you're a Coast to Coast listener.
	They'll probably explain it.
	I had a question I wanted to ask you.
	I also wanted to elaborate a little bit on an out-of-body experience I had.
	Back when I was about 17, I joined the U.S.
	Navy, and I went to boot camp out in Great Lakes.
	Now, when I flew out there, it was about 11 o'clock at night.
	It was only a couple hours on a flight.
	We've been up all day, and we're all drained.
	I've been in a holding facility at a hotel for the whole day.
	So we got there.
	Needless to say, I was pretty much drained, and we took a bus.
	We flew into up O'Hare Airport in Chicago, and the boot camp is about a good 30 miles outside the city, so it's a good long bus ride.
	And there was a bunch of us all civilians going into boot camp, and it was probably around Maybe one o'clock in the morning central by this time.
	So I had no idea of exactly the route I had taken into the place.
	Getting down to the end of basic training, right before the end of the week, week and a half before, they had a big saying in the service.
	I don't know if you were in the military or... Oh, nine years Navy for me.
	Oh, you know the old saying, hurry up and wait.
	That was the old saying.
	And wait, and wait, and wait.
	Hurry up and wait, yep.
	Lines, lines of wait.
	A lot of guys tend to pass out, what not, faint, whatever.
	You stand in line for so long and you get a little busy.
	But I had one experience that wasn't a faint spell, nothing like that.
	I was flying over the place and I thought nothing of this until I had left boot camp.
	The experience I had was I was actually out of my body.
	I was flying over the boot camp area and I had seen a road.
	I was flying over a road.
	That was an entrance road coming into the place, and it was all wooded areas, but there was a whole line of houses on one side of this road.
	Now, mind you, when I came in, it was dark.
	I had not seen anything.
	I was, I don't know, way oblivious to my surroundings when I came into this boot camp area.
	Damn it, when I graduated, my aunt had drove all the way out from Massachusetts and Boston with my cousin, and when they picked me up at the boot camp base, We drove out to downtown Chicago.
	We drove down this road, and that's when I had the deja vu.
	Like, I had seen this before.
	You knew exactly the houses, the whole layout, didn't you?
	I'd seen it all.
	The collared houses, three blue houses in a stretch.
	But the funny thing is that really, over these years, it really has been in the back of my mind for the last... I'm 34 years old now.
	The last five years of listening to you, this show has just opened up so many of my senses and awareness.
	To some of the things that have happened in my life, and maybe even in my past life.
	Well, there's no doubt about it.
	Thanks for the call.
	And, of course, the last year with me, the last five, of course, with Art Bell, and this is what Coast to Coast is all about.
	It's that awareness.
	Let's take one more real quick call.
	Let's go to the special line.
	You're on Coast to Coast.
	I've got about 45 seconds for you.
	Hey, how you doing, George?
	Doing great.
	Good.
	I wanted to call and tell you about a stormy experience.
	That I had and a lot of other North Carolinians had in 1989.
	Alright, make it a fast, stormy story.
	Hurricane Hugo.
	Hurricane Hugo came to shore down in Charleston, South Carolina.
	I live around Charlotte, North Carolina, which is about 200 miles inland from where it came to shore.
	When it got to us, it was still a Category 3 hurricane.
	It got 200 miles.
	Pretty good size, wasn't it?
	Exactly.
	And it uprooted trees and people were out from anywhere from a week up to three, three and a half weeks.
	It was pretty severe storm for the time.
	I gotta tell you, you know, again, never been in one of those situations.
	Hope I never am and hope you aren't anymore either.
	Stick around.
	I'm George Norrie.
	Conversations with God just ahead on Coast to Coast AM.
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	Iraq's Parliament scheduled to convene at this hour for a session that could see a vote on whether to accept or reject the latest United Nations resolution.
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	Neil Donald Walsh is a modern day spiritual messenger whose words continue to touch the
	world in a truly profound way. With an early interest in religion and deeply felt connection
	to spirituality, Neil spent the majority of his life thriving professionally yet searching
	for spiritual meaning before beginning his now famous conversation with God.
	His With God series of books has been translated now into 27 languages, touching millions of lives and inspiring important changes in their day-to-day lives.
	Neil was born in Milwaukee, Wisconsin to a Roman Catholic family that encouraged his quest for spiritual truth.
	And serving as his first spiritual mentor, Neil's mother taught him not to be afraid of God, as she believed in having a personal relationship with the divine, teaching Neil to do the same.
	A non-traditional believer, Neil's mother hardly ever went to church, and when he asked her why, she told Neil, I don't have to go to church.
	God comes to me.
	He's with me and around me wherever I am.
	This view of God at an early age would later move Neal to transcend traditional views of organized religion.
	He grew into an insatiably curious child whose comments about life seemed to possess a wisdom beyond his years.
	And while attending a Catholic grade school, Neal would often pose questions in the catechism class that would extend past the traditional grade school curriculum.
	Finally, the parish priest invited Neil to his rectory to answer questions, and this meeting turned into a once-a-week visit that blossomed into an open forum where Neil learned not to be afraid to ask questions about religion and spirituality, and also learned that his asking these types of questions did not mean that he would offend God.
	Tonight, a very special conversation with Neil Donald Walsh.
	Neil, welcome to Coast to Coast.
	So good to have you.
	Thank you.
	It's lovely to be here.
	My pleasure.
	I've got to tell you, I've had more emails come in about you over the last six months than anybody that I've interviewed on Coast to Coast.
	People who have not only read your books, but just want to hear from you.
	I'm glad you're here.
	Well, I'm very glad to be here too, George.
	Thank you for asking me.
	Let's go back to the point where you began to write conversations with God.
	Tell me, at that point, what was going on in your life, Neil?
	Well, I had reached the lowest point of my existence.
	I was very near uh... to committing suicide i was quite seriously
	considering just ending my stay here
	and that was because everything in life that could go wrong was going wrong for me
	my relationship with my significant other was ending and i did not think that was possible i thought that i was
	with a person that i would be with for the rest of my life but what made it more
	painful uh... than ever was that
	it wasn't the first time it happened It happened many times before.
	Multiple times, in fact.
	And it seemed as if I just couldn't get it right.
	That no matter what I tried or what I did, I could not hold a relationship together.
	I tried being neat.
	I tried being mild.
	I tried being nicer than nice.
	And in the process of doing all those adjustments to myself, I realized that I had literally abandoned who I really was and one day I looked in the mirror and I saw that I had disappeared myself in an effort to somehow show up, you know, in another person's life as worthy of having them there.
	And so that was very upsetting to me because having made all those adjustments and still producing the same result of a very unhappy relationship, I thought, my God, what does it take?
	But beyond that, my career had reached a dead end as well.
	So all this is happening to you then at the same time?
	At the same time.
	I'm having my relationship fall apart, I'm having my career fall apart, I'm having my
	health fall apart, all at the same time.
	And that had never happened that way a week in my life prior to that.
	I had had times when my relationship was really doing well and my career was falling apart, or my career was not doing so well but my relationship was at least hanging in there, or my health.
	But here was all three at the same time, and I have to tell you, I woke up one night after about three months of brooding about how everything, everything that could go wrong was going wrong.
	I finally said, you know, I don't want to play anymore.
	This has stopped being fun quite a while back.
	And I'm really tired of the struggle.
	And so it was on a night in February of 1992 that I just gave up.
	I began taking the house in the middle of the night.
	I was not knowing what I wanted to do, why I was even up, what I was attempting there.
	I was just pacing the floor in the middle of the night.
	The house was dark and I sat down on the couch in the darkened living room.
	I sat there by the light of the full moon coming through the windows, I recall.
	There I was, stewing in my own juice, as it were, trying to figure things out.
	And I began asking a series of questions in my mind.
	I was furious, George.
	I was so angry.
	I was so upset with life itself.
	And I began asking myself questions.
	What does it take to make life work?
	Were you blaming life, Neil, for the upsetting things that were happening in your life?
	Yes, I was, because after a while I realized that it couldn't be me.
	I mean, I know that I was responsible, of course, for part of it, but I thought, now wait a minute.
	When life dumps on you the way I was dumped on, all things happening at the same time, I just thought, okay, what do you want?
	I'm speaking out now to the universe in general.
	What do you want from me?
	And what does it take here?
	Somebody give me the rule book.
	You know what?
	I'll dance to your game.
	I'll play the rules.
	Somebody tell me what the heck the doggone rules are.
	Yeah.
	And quit dealing me these cards.
	Change the deck a little bit.
	Exactly.
	And so that's where I was sitting on the couch.
	And I really wanted to scream out.
	I was so furious in the middle of the night.
	But I didn't want to wake up half the household.
	And so I found a yellow legal pad on the coffee table in front of me.
	And I flicked on the lamp.
	Located a pen, and I began writing off, dashing off a very, very angry letter to the universe.
	An angry letter to God, if you please, asking these questions.
	You know, what do you want?
	Just tell it to me straight, or let me get out of here.
	Just give me the courage to just get out, because I don't want to play like this.
	And as I was writing these questions, I heard a voice.
	Over my right shoulder in the middle of the night and the voice was as clear, as distinct, as present as ours is to each other right now.
	And I whipped around to see who had walked into the house, how they got in, in the middle of the night.
	But of course there was no one there.
	And my blood ran cold.
	A chill raced up my back and I was frightened, of course.
	Except that the words of this voice were not very frightening.
	And the sound of the voice was so sweet and so gentle in an almost... Calming?
	I'm sorry?
	Very calming?
	Extremely so.
	To the point that my whole biological system just went on Almost on shutdown.
	Not in a bad way, but just all the nerve endings just released.
	I just sat there, so be calmed.
	That's a very good word, George, that I ceased to be afraid almost as instantly as I thought of being afraid.
	And what the voice said was not terribly remarkable.
	In fact, it was almost humorous.
	I would have thought if I was going to hear a voice that would say something, you know, wonderful, like, I'm here, or... But no, what it said was, you know, Do you really want answers to all of these questions, or are you just fainting?
	You know what?
	And the voice couldn't have said it any poignantly.
	Perfect.
	Right on the spot.
	Yeah, it was very human, very direct, and very real.
	And after I got over my first one quarter second of fear and moved into that place of calmness that I spoke of, I remember answering in my mind, I remember thinking to myself, No, I don't know.
	I am venting.
	But I would like answers, and if you got them, I'd sure as hell like to know what they are.
	Right.
	And with that, I received answers to all the questions I had been asking, and to every question that ever existed.
	I mean, what I'm trying to say is I received answers to questions I hadn't even asked.
	And how that felt was, it felt suddenly as if my entire mind was filled with data.
	I guess it's the same problem I've had before in the shower stall, or driving down the road, or walking through the park when I'll just get a great idea, and suddenly your mind is filled with exactly how you want to write that article, or just the way you want to produce that project, and it's all there in front of you.
	You've got to race to get home to get it all down before you forget it.
	It was like that, except that I had everything I ever wanted to know was right there in my mind, and I realized that I had to write it down.
	So I began writing down everything that I was Finding there in my mind and in my effort to get down as fast as I could I realized I was losing it It was escaping me.
	So I actually called out to this to this presence.
	Please don't don't don't make this go away Give this to me more slowly.
	Yeah.
	Yeah calm down go slow a little bit at that point Neil.
	Were you aware of What the voice might have been?
	You know, I didn't even think that far at that point I was so I almost wanted to use the word that I use it advisedly said David and By the process.
	I wasn't thinking intellectually.
	I was totally out of my left brain.
	And I was thinking intuitively.
	I was just kind of like going with the experience.
	And I was so much inside of the experience that I couldn't look at it from the outside in, which would have given me some sense of objectivity.
	It was the ultimate subjectivity.
	The ultimate sense of being one with the experience I was having.
	So much one with it that I could not judge it, assess it.
	Be frightened by it look at it in any way. I could only have it
	I could only have the experience and that that's the way I would describe it not person in that moment
	I wouldn't describe it that way I was because I was having the experience from such an internal place that I was
	merely moving through it Were you?
	excited with the answers that you were getting to questions that
	You probably might not ever have asked of anybody else. I was
	becalmed I I don't even think excited is a word I would use.
	I think I was inspired, which is a little bit of a different nuance than excited.
	I was just deeply inspired and I began, frankly, to cry.
	I sat there on the couch and I can remember the tears falling on the yellow legal pad because I had written with a rollerball pen and the ink was running on the paper.
	Where my tears were falling.
	And there were tears of pure joy.
	And of course, what happened to me as I began to receive this information and asked, you know, is there a way you can slow down?
	And the voice almost seemed to say, in a sense, George, ask me what you want to know one question at a time.
	And we'll talk one question at a time.
	I won't give it to you all at once.
	And so with that, I began asking questions.
	And I began receiving answers.
	And the answers, of course, generated more questions.
	And the more questions I asked, the more answers I received.
	In fact, before I could even finish the question in my mind, the answer would be given to me, before I even got to the end of the question.
	And so I began, and again I said, you're still going too fast.
	I can't remember all this.
	And the command came very simply, well then, write it down.
	And so I, okay.
	And I began to write down what I was experiencing in my mind, what I was hearing in my head.
	And I was still hearing it as a voice.
	The voice now was internal.
	It had moved from just over my right shoulder and behind me into the inside of my head, but still seemed to be coming, for whatever reason, from the right side.
	As if someone were gently whispering in my right ear.
	And I began this dialogue, this on-paper dialogue, in which I would ask a question, be given the answer
	immediately, and that would generate another question, more often than
	not, and I was having a conversation that I was writing down on
	paper.
	By the way, never dreaming, never dreaming in a gazillion years
	that anyone would ever be privy to this or see anything that I was writing.
	Right. You thought for a moment, these are going to be my private papers,
	and did you think for a moment that you were just having a conversation
	with your inner self.
	Yes.
	And I even asked what I thought was my inner self that question.
	I said, you know, how do I know this is not just me talking to myself?
	How do I know this is not just my imagination?
	And the voice said, what would be the difference?
	You think that there's some difference between your imagination or your higher self?
	That's a great answer, too.
	It really is.
	wisdom, but the source of all insight in the universe, and I'm telling you there is no difference.
	That's a great answer too. It really is.
	Because in that answer I received the main message of what turned out to be seven books worth of dialogue,
	but I got that in about the first minute and a half, which was there is no separation, by the way, of
	anything from anything.
	You know, I've read conversations with God.
	And it's remarkable.
	More importantly, it's your soul.
	And for you to be able to conceive of that, and to be able to let so many other people share that.
	And as you said, you didn't do it with the intent of having the entire world seeing that.
	How did that happen?
	How did anybody see it?
	Anybody at all?
	What happened at that stage as your life is beginning to change at that very moment?
	How did you decide or when did you decide to share that?
	Very good question.
	About one-third of the way into what became Book One, which for me was... Let me explain that this dialogue that I was having went on for the entire night.
	It was for the next four hours or so.
	It was 8.30 in the morning on a Saturday morning.
	began on a friday in the friday saturday morning time and and by by saturday morning at eight thirty
	uh... i had i had been sitting there for four hours writing and you know i ordinarily
	if i was writing a letter to to someone
	i'd make it a good tired after twenty minutes yeah uh... but for some reason or another
	i was able to write and write and write and right on yellow legal pads
	page after page after page for four hours i was neither mentally
	intellectually or physically tired and and uh... and uh...
	somewhere in the middle of that writing which turned out to be in the just in
	that first night alone probably thirty or forty you want me more than i did stop
	the cup handwritten pages of stuff
	somewhere in there it's said will one day become a book
	and i thought to myself now that's that's that's crazy that they are
	Fifty million people a year send the Great American Book to their friendly publisher.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And I can just imagine me sending this to a publisher and having them say, oh, terrific, we've got a book here from a guy who says he talked to God.
	That stands a real high key.
	What kind of a night did he have?
	Look at all this stuff, yeah.
	But, I'll tell you something that struck me right then.
	I thought, you know what?
	This is an interesting way to test the veracity of what I'm experiencing.
	I've been given a direct statement, a prediction, if you will.
	This will one day become a book.
	As unlikely as that would be that someone would take the middle of the night mental meanderings of some weird guy in Oregon and publish them, as unlikely as that is, what a great way to test whether what I'm experiencing here has any veracity, any validity at all.
	So, because it was one of the few objective statements, I should say, it was one of the few statements in the book that was measurable.
	Most of what I was receiving, most of the data that I was getting by this process was not measurable data.
	It was conceptual data that you don't put a yardstick to.
	Sure.
	What year was the statement that one could measure because it either became a book or it didn't become a book?
	When did you finally stop writing during that day, that episode?
	Around 9 o'clock in the morning, people were starting to get up.
	It was a Saturday morning, fortunately for me, so it was a late arisal.
	Arising for most people in my house, the children and the lady that I was with.
	And so they started to get up around 8.30 and I continued writing a little bit and then I became very distracted and I had to stop.
	So I put things carefully down on the coffee table in front of me and actually went to bed because I'd been up all night.
	Unfortunately, it was a Saturday.
	I did not have to go to work, and so I was able to sleep in.
	I went back to bed, and I got up around 12 o'clock, and typical of how things are in most casual households, the pad of paper and the pencil were right there where I left them.
	Nobody even bothered to disturb them or woo them or, for that matter, read them.
	They were just, you know, there.
	And so I just kind of carefully moved them back into my den, into my little office that I had in the house, where they were the next night.
	When at 420 in the morning, I was awakened.
	Literally awakened out of a sound sleep.
	Again, hold that thought.
	Hold that thought.
	Neal Donald Walsh, my guest.
	I'm George Norrie.
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	Okay, Neil, let's pick it up.
	You were kind of woken up a little bit for the second writing, and then how many writings did it take before you felt that this was completed, at least for the first book?
	Well, you see, I wasn't trying to write a book.
	Right.
	Even at that time when it said this will one day become a book, I did not think of it in those terms.
	I did not think, OK, now I'm writing a book.
	I just thought what I'm writing will one day become a book.
	So because that's true, I did not think of it in those kinds of quantities or with that kind of quality.
	Therefore, I never had an experience of, oh, the book is ending.
	And now it's time to write a new one.
	My only experience was that I was receiving this information and I was having this conversation, ongoingly, in my life, virtually every night for the first three and a half weeks.
	And then, following that, about two or three times a week, I would be awakened, again, by the same process, almost as if someone was tugging at my nightshirt in the middle of the night, just like, wake up, wake up, it's time to get back.
	And so I would go back to the yellow legal pad almost always between 4 15 and 4 30 in the morning by the way the
	time was Almost always in that 15 minute period
	We're pretty darn close to it when you went back to reread what you had written
	You know, sometimes I've woken up in a dream state and I jot down an idea or something like that.
	I'll wake up in the morning and look at it and say, what is that?
	Because for me, sometimes it's all mumbo-jumbo.
	In your particular case, when you were able to re-read the things that you had written the night before or the night before, did it make sense to you then?
	It not only made sense, it made such perfect sense that actually when it did ultimately become a book, what you see in the book is exactly what I wrote with no editing, no changes, no alterations whatsoever from the original writing.
	Wow.
	That's something.
	Just laid it right out there.
	Just had it all re-typed.
	That's it.
	I had it all typed up by a stenographer because I thought, you know, I'm going to test.
	But it was many months after I received that information, this will one day become a book, that I had the courage, really, to even hand these handwritten pages to a stenographer who I happened to run across in my daily work.
	And I said, you know what?
	You do stenography?
	He said, yeah.
	Do you do, like, transcripts?
	Can you take someone's handwritten notes and turn them into... He said, oh yeah, I do that all the time.
	Well, what kind of notes do you have?
	I said, well, it's a book.
	I expected her to laugh, of course, because everybody has a book.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And I said, but she said, no, no, no, I'd love to.
	I'd be very happy to type it up for you.
	So I gave it to her.
	I said, look, I don't have much money.
	I look like I'm practically flat broke.
	What do you charge?
	And I said, this is very important to me.
	I just wanted to see it at least just in typewritten form, if I could.
	And she said, well, I'll squeeze it in between my other stuff.
	If you don't have a deadline.
	I said, no, I don't care when you get it.
	Take a year if you want.
	I don't care, because it's not something I have to have done right away.
	She said, if that's the basis on which I can work, on a catch-as-can-can basis, whenever I can find time, I'll squeeze it in, and I'll just charge you $15 or $20 a week.
	I said, hey, I can handle that.
	And so she did that, and it took her, well, over a year to type up.
	uh... at the keyboard in uh... what i had written
	but it was all right i didn't i didn't i didn't uh...
	i didn't hear what i thought i thought i didn't want it to get them and i was a massive project
	at that time out at that point i was handing over to her several hundred handwritten pages
	uh... stuff on yellow paper No, I didn't from her.
	But I took it to her in pieces.
	In other words, the conversation was ongoing.
	did you wait for the whole thing to get completed well that's interesting question
	uh... i i uh... uh...
	i didn't pick it up in pieces no i didn't from her but i took it to her in pieces
	and that was the conversation was ongoing and i didn't wait until the whole thing was over because as
	i said i really had no
	distinct experience of what it would be over or that it ever was over
	so i simply kept on mailing her pages after pages every but every two weeks i'd mail her another forty or fifty
	pages and and uh... just send them off to her
	and say and i will with a little note saying i don't know if and when this will
	ever end but here it is finally this lady called me she did not know me this is a
	total stranger i happened to meet in my line of work
	but but uh... she she called me once finally after about and oh and i should say this too
	I said to her, I don't want to see this.
	I don't want to see this until I tell you that I'm ready to see it.
	Okay.
	Don't send it back to me.
	This lady called me, I guess about two or three months after she began the initial transcription, and she said, Neil, I've got to tell you something.
	She said, where is this stuff coming from?
	I said, well, I said, I don't know.
	I think I'm having a conversation with God, but God, don't tell anyone that.
	I mean, I don't know what, I don't know, I don't know.
	And she just, she was on the other end of the phone, there was this brief silence and she said, this is the most astonishing stuff I've ever heard in my life.
	I would type this stuff up from, I would pay you to type this stuff up.
	I said, you got a deal.
	Give us an idea.
	Or some people who haven't opened up conversations with God yet.
	They should.
	But just give me an idea of what one of those questions and answers might have been.
	Who are you?
	Why don't you tell me who you are?
	What have I done in my life to deserve a life of such continuing struggle?
	What is the reason I can't keep a relationship together?
	How can I find right livelihood at last?
	And what is the meaning of my life?
	What am I trying to do here anyway?
	What's the point of all of this?
	Please tell me it's not just some cosmic joke.
	Did you see, Neil, a progression in your depression in the beginning, when you just started to write, when you were down at the bottom of your life?
	And as you keep reading the pages that you had written, did you see a progression in your attitude or your philosophy?
	Those are two different things.
	I saw a change in my attitude almost immediately.
	I mean, within an hour of the very first experience that I was having on the very first night, my attitude changed from one of chronic depression, deep depression, and anger and frustration with life to one of peace and tranquility and almost a sense of what I want to call a soft joy.
	It wasn't even an excited kind of a joy.
	It was a joyfulness.
	It was just a soft, knowing joy that everything was going to be fine, everything always had been fine, and everything would be fine in the future, that everything was perfect just the way it was rolling out.
	And that it was only my judgment about it that made it unbearable for me to experience.
	So my attitude changed on the first night.
	Now, my philosophy or my consciousness or my awareness, that began to expand slowly but surely over the next year, which is how long it was that I was receiving these Moments of contact, if you will, or these commentaries from God.
	Conversations with God.
	Although there was a... There was a... Let me just go back and describe this.
	Sure.
	For the first three and a half weeks or so, I was receiving these experiences every night.
	Being awakened in the middle of the night.
	Automatically.
	I would just open my eyes.
	There it was.
	There it was again.
	421, 423, 416 and I would go back to my den.
	421, 423, 416.
	again and begin writing again. Then it was about every two or three days and then it
	was like once a week. Then I ultimately lost contact. I want to say that I slept through
	about 15, 18, 20 nights without being awakened. I thought, oh my God, what have I done? Oh,
	no, no, no. Not just after I made this contact. Come on, come back to me. Come on. Of course,
	it wouldn't. It's kind of like trying to catch a smoke in your hand. The more I wished for
	it, the more I wanted it to happen. Like people who try to learn how to meditate and then
	can't do it because they want to do it so badly.
	And make that contact we all hear about during meditation.
	I couldn't do it.
	And I felt like I was pushing it away from me.
	So finally I just dropped it and I thought, well, whatever.
	Okay, I knew it was too good to be true.
	I couldn't go on.
	And so much for that.
	And I threw my notes into the left-hand drawer of my desk and I forgot it.
	It went on with my bumbling life.
	And then about six or five and a half months later, A good long time when you're having this experience once or twice a week.
	And now about six months later or so, I'm awakened with that same old feeling at 422 in the morning.
	And I wake up, oh my God, it's there!
	And I race, literally just jump out of bed, and race to my den, and get out my yellow legal pad, and I start with a question.
	And I get an answer to the question, and only later on, and this is one of the most chilling moments of my life, About an hour and a half later, that was a relatively short session, when it just felt complete and over, I added the pages I had written to those I had put in my left-hand desk drawer five and a half months earlier, and it was a seamless match.
	The conversation picked up exactly where it had left off, unwittingly.
	I asked a question that was the first thought that came to my mind, and it was, to this day, I look back at the material, because I never thought I would have any reason to need to know this, I cannot tell you where the seam was.
	That smooth?
	It was that smooth, and that was almost, in a joyful way, kind of a joyful scare.
	I just thought, ooh, okay, I get it.
	There's more here going on than meets the eye.
	Was there ever a point, Neil, that while the writings were going on, that you were a little puzzled over who you might be talking with or what you might be talking with?
	Oh, yes.
	There were times when I was convinced that I may be trafficking with the devil because my childhood religion had warned me of just such a possibility in my life.
	I mean, that all people have to be on the lookout for that kind of thing.
	I was worried that I had gone mad, that I was the hell of the devil, that I had just gone crazy, that I was suffering delusions of grandeur.
	I was worried about all of that.
	For that reason, I told no one except this lady who was typing up these notes of mine.
	I told no one else what was going on with me, although many people asked me, hey, what's happening with you?
	You seem different.
	You seem changed.
	You seem more peaceful, more at peace with your life.
	The result of that attitude shift that we talked about earlier is that, in fact, life began showing up for me in ways that would allow me to be even more peaceful.
	So the effect was circular.
	I began getting a break here and there.
	Life started to be giving me, you know, I was asking, come on, give me a break.
	And suddenly I was getting breaks.
	And I began to see that, my golly, my attitude about life produces the outcomes in my life.
	Isn't that interesting?
	And did you then find yourself converting negativity into something positive at the same time?
	Yes.
	Well, I just eliminated all negative thoughts, in fact.
	I didn't convert negativity so much into something that made sense.
	I just simply didn't have any negativity because after about six or seven months cumulatively of this experience, after I regained contact, I realized that I was, I want to say, onto something.
	And I was told directly in the dialogue that what you're thinking and what you believe and how you use your mind creates your exterior reality.
	And I began to see that that was true.
	I began to have actual experiences of it and evidence of it in my day-to-day life.
	And so from that point on, I had very, very few negative thoughts.
	And when I did have a negative thought, which was, I guess, only natural and only human to have, I would dismiss it immediately.
	I just literally threw it out of my mind.
	And said sometimes out loud, I don't choose that.
	I don't choose that.
	I can recall doing that once, driving down the road.
	I was just thinking like we all do sometimes when we drive along, and I had some kind of a negative thought about life, and I just said out loud, I don't choose that.
	And I dismissed it out of my mind.
	It almost reminded me of the biblical verse, Satan, get thee behind me.
	Yes, yes.
	When you were thinking about the possibilities that you might be dealing with the devil, did you think that the advice that this entity was giving you may have been something to trick you?
	Yes.
	I thought, you know, if the devil were going to trick me and try to convince me of the things that were being said, how would he do that?
	Wouldn't he do it in just this way, with just these words?
	Wouldn't these be the most tempting words ever to be spoken?
	Isn't this in fact what the church taught you the devil would say?
	And I have to admit that in some cases it sounded very much like that.
	And so that gave me pause to wonder whether or not I had allowed myself to be open to what I would have called in those days satanic forces or evil influences or whatever else one
	might want to label it.
	What convinced you that you were not dealing with that?
	The nature of the material itself and the way I was feeling about it, the internal feeling that I
	had and the clarity and the extraordinary insight and the applicability in my everyday life of the
	material that I was receiving. Although I must say, and this kind of shocks some people when I
	say this, I had lingering doubts, I continue to have lingering doubts throughout the entire seven
	year process. And there was never a time to this very day, to this very moment that I'm talking
	with you now but I don't have Some lingering doubt about what I imagine myself or experience myself to be moving through as my reality.
	And you know what?
	I've come to really accept that doubt as a gift.
	I've been saying to people lately, you know what?
	The day that I have no doubt whatsoever is the day that I become dangerous.
	Yeah, that could be.
	And I have no intention of becoming dangerous.
	I've learned to live within the question.
	I was told that the greatest wisdom is not mine when I have fully the answer, but when I continue to live within the question.
	Do we all have within us this ability to tap into this conversation with God like you did?
	Not only do we all have the ability to do so, In fact, I'm told in the conversation itself that we all are doing so every day of our lives and especially at peak moments of our lives when we have a need to tap into that place of universal wisdom.
	That there isn't a human being on the earth who hasn't done so.
	That everyone has done so and we have called it and are calling it something else.
	We're not calling it a conversation with God because we have been culturalized away from such a description.
	Our very religions, in fact, have been chiefly the means by which we have been scared away from calling it that.
	They have told us that if we were to dare suggest that God is talking directly to us, we would be committing the greatest blasphemy, because God just does not talk to unworthy beings such as us.
	Although we can talk to God every day.
	Stay with us.
	Stay with us, Neil.
	My guest is Neil Donald Walsh.
	We'll be back.
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	Neil, there's no doubt this planet, I think, is going to continue to face some pretty serious times, not only with what's happening worldwide right now, with the potential of war, but I think also some problems with the environment and the climate, maybe even possible pole shifts.
	How does this How does any of this correlate to some of the things that you've done with your work, with your conversations with God?
	I mean, is there some hope here?
	Or are we all doomed?
	Well, I think there's enormous hope.
	And I've been told that there's enormous reason for hope.
	But we must begin to approach the crisis at the level at which the crisis exists.
	First, we have to acknowledge that the crisis is in the main man-made.
	Yes, there are some things going on like, as you mentioned, the possible shifting of the poles and so forth that one could argue are not man-made, although it is even arguable on the other side of that coin that even such massive geophysical ships are ultimately and have been man-made.
	But stepping aside from that question for a minute, it's not seriously arguable that most of the crises that we are facing on the planet right now Our man-made crisis, not the least of which is the one we're about to move headlong into, if we're not careful, with regard to Iraq.
	And that's the least of the things that are going on right now.
	And so, it is, I think, our first responsibility, if we are to grasp the hope that is extended to humankind, to accept the fact that we are at cause in the matter, and that we have been at cause For quite some time.
	When we accept our responsibility in the matter of how things are and how things seem to be going, in that moment we accept the reins of power as well.
	Before we accept responsibility for how terrible things are, and unless we do, we become powerless to do anything over it because we are admitting that we have nothing to do with this.
	We're just the victims of the situation.
	Surrendering to the truth, that is that we have created all of this, either intentionally
	or otherwise, but we are at cause of the matter, puts us in a place of being able to do something
	about it.
	That's the first step that we have to take, and that's true in our individual lives as
	well as in the collective reality that we are experiencing on the planet.
	That's how I turn my life around, with instructions that I received in my conversations with God,
	by being able to allow myself to accept full responsibility for everything that ever happened
	to me in my life, even those things which apparently on the surface of it I had no control
	over and did not wish or desire or call upon myself in any conscious way.
	That's a huge step for a person to take, at least I should speak for myself.
	It was for me.
	It was an enormous step because I couldn't see how it was possible that I would deliberately call upon myself many of the things that happened.
	But that's what I meant earlier when I said that the difficulty with the crises that humanity is facing right now is that we are attempting to resolve them at every level except the level at which these crises exist.
	That is, we're trying to solve them with psychological means, with political means, With economic means, just throw enough money at it.
	Or, in fact, with military means.
	And it's not a psychological, political, military, or economic problem.
	It is, in my words, the use of the vernacular that I've become familiar and comfortable with, a spiritual problem.
	Having to do, if there's a word of greater comfort, a problem of beliefs.
	Having to do with our belief systems.
	The kinds of things that we believe about life, And about that larger-than-life experience that some of us call God, or divinity, or the all-in-all, or whatever name you want to give to the huge system of things that seems to be playing a part, if not the total part, in creating our day-to-day reality.
	Do you think our leaders on this planet, Neil, seem to lack this understanding, this spirituality, Really, I think, allow this planet to move forward in a direction that you've just brought up.
	All but one.
	I'm going to say something probably way controversial now, and people are going to turn off their radios and say, well, that's it.
	Now I know this guy is certifiably insane.
	But from my observation and from my personal knowledge now, most but one, the one leader we've had in this early part of this century and And in the last years of the previous century, who did have the beginning of insight into this, and a larger understanding than one might imagine, was in fact Bill Clinton.
	And boy, he got roasted for it.
	He began listening to some people who had some insights about these kinds of things, not the least of which was Michael Lerner and others, who he began talking to privately on the side, and the media got a hold of that.
	The media found out about About that, about Hillary Clinton's discussions with Gene Huston, which almost ruined Gene Huston's life and her career.
	One of the most extraordinary women, if not the most brilliant mind on this planet, surely one of the top minds on the planet.
	And when the media got a hold of all of that, both the Clintons were discouraged from ever pursuing those kinds of avenues Of thoughtful exploration again, at least while they were in office.
	But with the exception of Bill Clinton, I think that our national and international leaders and the so-called COIs, the centers of influence on our planet in the media and elsewhere, are by and large, with some few exceptions, oblivious to the kind of thing that I'm talking about here and would laugh at me and dismiss me and marginalize What I have to say here, if they were given an opportunity to do so, and the media does that, by the way, regularly with me, all the time, but there's something interesting about that.
	While virtually all of the major media, which has now dealt with me since the first book was published, because the book, of course, became a publishing phenomenon, I mean, it sold.
	It was instant.
	Instantly.
	Instantly is right.
	Within the first six, nine weeks, And ultimately sold and continues to sell, but Book One is continuing to sell to this day at record numbers, even as we speak.
	It is now sold in the multi-millions of copies.
	It has been read conservatively by probably 25 million people.
	It hasn't sold 25 million copies, but they tell me in New York that they've now discovered that for every copy that's sold, at least three people have gotten their hands on it, because it's a massive hand-to-hand book.
	And so if we've sold 5 to 7 million copies worldwide, you can look at 25 million people have read the material or become familiar with it at least to some degree.
	And I know that that's in fact functionally what's true.
	And so what's fascinating is that while the major media have done everything they can to marginalize me and to portray me as some kind of a guy who's really gone over the edge, 25 million people disagree and have been sending me letters. We get 600
	letters and emails sometimes a week. We've gotten as many as that in one week and more
	than once. And we've now received over 50,000 individual communications on these books. And
	those people have said to me, you know what? This is not unusual. What you're experiencing, I
	experienced. And so it turns out that once again, the grassroots understanding of people
	on Main Street differs from the understandings of life of those people who we have placed
	in charge of our future.
	Ironically enough, our political and religious leaders have no conception, by and large, of the power of what I'm sharing with you tonight.
	Well, with the media, the fact that they challenge you or attack you, what do they doubt about you?
	Well, everything.
	I haven't even had a conversation with God that it's possible for anyone to have a conversation with God to say nothing of the question of whether there's even a God to have a conversation with.
	Does God even exist?
	this uh... and and uh...
	or those who those of you who might be begrudgingly willing to suggest that the vietnam
	at some kind of motive inspiration
	They doubt that I brought it through cleanly.
	That I was able to separate myself from my own personal agenda.
	That I'm not doing this simply to make money because I was down and out at one point in my life and lived on the streets.
	I was actually a street person living outside in the weather without a roof over my head.
	And not for a week or two but for an extended period of my life.
	And so the standard wrap Of the cynical media is, hey, he found a way to make a buck.
	Well, on the appearance of national media, they would look at that, but you never got into it with that intention.
	As a matter of fact, with what I know of you, you had no idea you were going to sell these kinds of books when you finally got to the point where you were going to get it published.
	It was the furthest thing from my mind.
	I can't even...
	First of all, I was astonished that anybody would publish it to begin with.
	And after a small publisher on the East Coast agreed to publish it,
	It never occurred to me that more than a few thousand... I thought, you know, I'm going to sell three or four thousand copies of this thing, and wouldn't that be satisfying?
	Wouldn't that be nice to know that three or four thousand people have shared the experience that I was given to share in this way?
	So I was going to be immensely satisfied with that.
	It never, of course, it never occurred to me that that many people would buy the book in the first three weeks.
	And that ultimately, in the first year, over 50,000 copies would be sold in the first 12 months, which made it an instant bestseller, and it wound up being on the bestseller list for over two and a half years.
	And every other book in the With God series has made the New York Times bestseller list as well.
	So, no.
	No one can dream of such a thing.
	No one can plan such a thing.
	No one could even, I don't think, reasonably hope for such a thing.
	I mean, there are very few people who have had seven New York Times bestsellers.
	In a period of seven years.
	That's almost unheard of in the publishing business.
	And by the way, I don't say that arrogantly or boastfully, because the credit does not belong to me.
	And frankly, it doesn't even belong to my co-author.
	It belongs to people.
	Ordinary people.
	Not unlike, I might add, the people who are listening to this radio program right now.
	That is, people who are brave enough to ask the unaskable questions, to consider The unconsiderable thoughts to explore the unexplorable, to move, dare I say it, where no person has ever gone before.
	Sounds like Star Trek, doesn't it?
	That's exactly right.
	And so, these are the brave ones, these are the courageous ones among us, who are willing to explore what people are telling us it's taboo to explore.
	And who are willing to consider possibilities that no one else is willing to consider.
	Now, getting back to your question about the crisis real quickly, if we don't start considering these possibilities right now, we are headed for a major crisis on this planet.
	Why do you say that Bill Clinton was one of these leaders that had the ability to pull us out of this mess when his own personal life was so screwed up?
	Yeah, well...
	The degree to which one's personal life is screwed up, as it relates to how far one's vision extends, I've learned there's no relationship necessarily between the two.
	Some of the greatest visionaries of the human experience were people whose personal lives were beyond repair.
	And that's true of everyone from Disraeli on down.
	So I'm not impressed by the fact that Bill Clinton made some judgmental errors in terms of his personal life or the expression of his sexuality, which is another whole discussion, by the way.
	He was just a victim of a whole huge species-wide dysfunction with regard to the expression of our sexual energy, which Conversation with God spends considerable time about, by the way.
	But his sexual experiences Notwithstanding, and the appropriateness or lack of appropriateness thereof, notwithstanding, there are few people who would seriously argue that Bill Clinton was not an intellect of the first rank.
	He has had and has an extraordinary mind.
	He was a Rhodes Scholar.
	He is extremely well-read.
	And he is a very, very deep thinker.
	He's not a surface thinker at all.
	And he has a memory like a steel trap.
	I mean, if he's read something or heard something or something's captured his imagination in the moment, he keeps that in his memory bank.
	I know this personally as a result of having spoken with him.
	And he's just a first-class thinker.
	He's a very extraordinary human being in that regard.
	Now, I happen to also know some people Who have had some contact with him, people like Michael Lerner, people like Gene Yusup, both of whom I happen to know very well, not casually, and others as well who have described him, Marianne Williamson is another, who's known Bill Clinton for quite some time, and every person who knows Bill Clinton personally, with whom I've had contact, has come back independent of each other at different times and places, and reported essentially the same thing to me.
	This is a brilliant guy, and it's just that the shame of it is, That he was not able to control his own personal life, because had he been able to do so, he might have gone down as one of the most astonishingly effective leaders in history.
	But he sabotaged himself, and that's very sad.
	Indeed it is.
	Indeed it is.
	What do you say to critics who say, how can a god allow some of the horrors that occur on this planet Why doesn't he intervene?
	Why doesn't he fix some of these things that are just so bad?
	Well, the first thing I'd say is that your question as posed, I would say to that person, I'd say, sir, the question as you posed it suggests that we are somehow different from God, that we are separate from God, and that God is doing this to us, or failing to stop us from doing this.
	Or punishing us.
	Or punishing us.
	Or us standing by, blithely watching us walk into walls, and if he's an all-loving, merciful God, why doesn't he stop that?
	But only if we indulge in separatist philosophy, in the thought that we and God are not one, but that God's over there and we're over here, could such a conceptualization even occur to our minds.
	Much less cause us to ask the question.
	And so I say to that person, you know, I have to consider your question within the context of my own understanding of God.
	God and we are not separate.
	We are all God-godding.
	We are all that which is God.
	And the reason that we are allowing ourselves to do the things that we're doing is that we are co-creating our experience collectively as we move through the process that anthropologists call evolution.
	That is to say, as we become what we are next going to be.
	And, furthermore, there is no value judgment made in the universe by this essence or energy that I call God, of which we are all a part, or that I call life, of which we are all a part.
	There is no value judgment made by life, or by this essence, with regard to one experience as opposed to the other.
	And so that one could say loosely, God has, this is tough to hear, this is a good thing we have some time to discuss this because one doesn't say this in a 30 second soundbite.
	Good morning America.
	But God has no preference in the matter of how things turn out.
	Larger than the preference that we have because we are in fact that which is God experiencing that which we are experiencing that we might know ultimately who we really are and recreate ourselves anew at the next grandest level of that.
	And so life is a process by which we become a larger version of what we were before.
	Or again, as I say, what people call evolution.
	We are, in short, moving through a process of evolution, every step of which, along the way, is necessary for us to ultimately become that which we choose to create ourselves as.
	And that means that, in shorthand, what we call our so-called mistakes and our errors and the bumbling and walking into walls is really all part of a blessed process by which we ultimately emerge as the next greatest version of ourselves.
	I, therefore, have come to take an extremely philosophical point of view about the so-called mistakes that I have made in my life.
	And by the way, that's how I feel about Bill Clinton.
	I believe that there's every possibility that he may yet make a contribution that will overshadow Every judgment that human beings have about him before his life is over.
	Well, we'll find out about that.
	Stay with us.
	My guest is Neil Donald Walsh.
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	I'm George Norrie with my guest, Neil Donald Walsh.
	Neil, let's talk a little bit about, of course, the big answer that so many people always seem to be asking themselves.
	And a lot of us just can't seem to find the answer.
	But when you do look up into the stars and the universe and the heavens, and we always say, how did this happen?
	Why?
	Did you ever have an opportunity to try to find that answer?
	Do you mean, how did life happen on Earth?
	Well, just everything in general.
	Well, that's a huge... That's a big question.
	Huge question.
	I asked that question with regard to my life and the life of human beings that are living on the planet right now.
	And the answer that I received, and it became even more clear to me, in The New Revelations, A Conversation with God, which is the book that's just come out three and a half weeks ago, I asked that question in a profoundly urgent way After the events of September 11th a year ago, when I sat down with the God of my understanding and said, I don't understand.
	What is it that we are not getting here?
	Why are we creating this worldwide experience that we are creating of constant violence and killing and war?
	That's a part of the overall experience of humanity's adventure on this planet that I did ask about.
	And I asked about it very specifically in the New Revelations, this latest book.
	Because I was deeply disturbed by it, as were many people on the planet.
	So yes, I did ask that question.
	What is going on?
	And I got a startling answer.
	If we thought that my Clinton comments brought a reaction, the answer that I got... Oh, they did.
	They did.
	Well, I'm sure they did.
	I'm sure they did.
	Because people love to hate Bill Clinton.
	And I understand that.
	So, but I can't imagine anyone could seriously argue that the man had a brilliant mind.
	That's been, even by his staunchest enemies, that's been conceded that he was a brilliant person.
	He just misused his brilliance.
	So let's, I'm willing to let it go at that.
	But so as they say, let sleeping dogs lie.
	Yes.
	But with regard to this question, I asked, what is it that's causing our problems?
	And the answer that I got was, In a sentence, punitive, exclusivist, organized religion.
	Punitive, exclusivist, organized religion.
	Now what does that mean?
	It means that punitive, exclusivist, organized religion, as opposed to just any organized religion, but a religion that believes in a God who is exclusivist and punitive, a God who says there's only one way To come back to me, and so I'm exclusivist, and if you don't do it by that way, I will send you to hell, which means he's punitive.
	We've got an organization, or a religion, that insists on teaching of an angry, jealous, punishing God.
	Those religions have, for thousands of years in some cases, and many hundreds of years in most cases, been teaching humanity that violence as a way of resolving our problems It's acceptable and okay.
	They've done it by teaching us of a God who resolves his problems by violence.
	They do it by telling us that if God doesn't like what humanity is doing, God punishes us and uses rather violent methods with which to do so.
	That in fact, to use one of the many holy scriptures on the planet, not to pick this one out in particular, but in the Bible, If you do it by actual count, you'll just take an adding machine and read the Bible one year, and at the end of the year, add up all the numbers of the people recorded in the Bible that were smoked by God's hand.
	That is, that God is proclaimed to have killed directly, or ordered his minions on earth to kill.
	And the number exceeds one million.
	By actual count, we're just reading the Bible.
	And the Koran is no better, the Bhagavad Gita isn't a heck of a lot better, and the Book of Mormon is kind of scary, too, when you look at it.
	So the fact of the matter is that almost every one of the holy scriptures of our most sacred religious traditions teaches us of a God who uses violence routinely as a means of resolving his anger and punishing those who displease him.
	He also, and it's quoted in chapter and verse of all those sacred texts that I've just described, he also encourages, and in some cases commands and demands, that human beings do exactly the same thing with each other.
	He says things like, take the heads of all the people and hang them up before the Lord.
	That's in Numbers, chapter 25.
	And one could quote chapter and verse of the Koran and of the Bhagavad Gita, as I mentioned a minute ago as well, and come up with very scary language.
	Now the argument is made My apologies for all of these things, that no one believes that anymore.
	Those are ancient, outdated, scriptural passages.
	Neil, it's not fair for you to even bring that up, because no one seriously considers it anymore.
	Unless, of course, you're flying airplanes into buildings in New York City, in which case you start believing it very clearly and saying things like, Allah is great, while you're destroying 3,000 lives.
	Or unless you're engaged in 200 years of Christian crusades.
	Or, to be more contemporary, shooting abortion doctors in parking lots of abortion clinics in Florida, which happened just a few years ago, or acting in some other insane way that these beliefs allow us to act in.
	And so we have reached a crisis level, a crisis situation in the world today, because of the things that we believe about ourselves and about the use of violence as an acceptable process conflict resolution and we cannot let go of this thought
	until we let go of the idea which undergirds it which is of course the idea that
	God not only approves of it but commands it and demands that we do so
	and that says if we will not go to war and fight each other over these
	mistaken beliefs that God will punish us
	And there is a chapter and verse in all the Holy Scriptures that indicates that as well.
	Well, don't you think human beings are violent anyway?
	It doesn't matter what happens, what they believe.
	I mean, they are killing machines, Neil.
	That's all they do.
	They kill.
	They fight.
	They kill.
	Since the beginning of time.
	Yeah, but the question is why?
	And the answer is, because they believe that this is the way to survive.
	Because they believe, among other things, that they are their bodies.
	And that the only way the body can survive when push comes to shove is by using violence, if it's my life against yours.
	Because they haven't gotten the Obi-Wan Kenobi message, which contained enormous wisdom and was much more than a simple movie with a little interesting twist at the end.
	But in fact, that spoke, in popular terms, in a popular movie, the greatest wisdom that is contained in the deepest wisdom literature of the ages.
	And that is that we are not our bodies.
	Our bodies are simply something that we have, but it is not who we are.
	When one makes a shift of that major proportion in one's thinking about oneself, suddenly one's behavior changes as well, and like Obi-Wan Kenobi in the face of Darth Vader with the lightsaber, puts down the sword and says, you know what?
	I get real clearly that you think you can end my existence right now.
	But I am equally clear that that is utterly impossible.
	It's not possible for you to do so.
	And so, in this particular instance, for the greater good, hey, hey, you know what?
	Take that lifeline.
	Well, I'm not suggesting that we all act that way in our daily lives, although I wonder what would happen on the Earth if we did.
	But that's not the suggestion I'm making.
	I'm sorry?
	I've always wondered that, too.
	What would happen if mankind became good all the time?
	Well, you know what?
	I think that mankind is good all the time, inwardly.
	I think that is our natural state.
	I disagree with those who say that just the opposite is true.
	I think it is normal, not natural, but normal, for us to act in ways that are not good, that are violent.
	But I don't think that's natural.
	I think we have to be unnatural to act that way.
	But we have been fed unnatural thoughts about ourselves, about life, and about the thing that I call God, from the beginning of our lives.
	We've been fed those thoughts by the very source of what is supposed to bring us calmness and peacefulness, and that is religion itself.
	Religion has been, by my observation, and I'm told in the New Revelations, a conversation with God, That punitive, exclusivist, organized religion has been the chief source of the poisoning thoughts that create the culture wars on the border between India and Pakistan.
	By the way, that war over there, that scuffling that's going on every day, has nothing to do with water rights, or geography, or oil fields.
	It has to do with the Hindus and the Muslims not being able to get along.
	By the way, What's going on between Israel and Palestinians for the past 50 years has very little to do in the end line with geography and everything to do with cultural, ethnic, and religious beliefs.
	By the way, for the past 35 years in Ireland, Protestants and Catholics have been shooting each other and killing each other.
	It's not about geography.
	It's not about water rights.
	There are no oil fields there they're fighting over.
	These are all the reasons that we want to think that wars are started.
	It's not about any of that.
	The Catholics and the Protestants just can't get along.
	Hello?
	And that's because of the things they've been taught from the day they were born.
	How do you change that?
	You begin to create a new spirituality on the planet.
	By opening the human mind to the possibility that there may be something we don't know here about God and about life, the knowing of which would change everything.
	The New Revelations, A Conversation with God, contains, in fact, nine new revelations that it is the hope humanity might at least explore, at least take a look at, to see if there might not be something else that our Knowledge, our current awareness and understanding of God and life is not necessarily completely and utterly inaccurate or mistaken, but incomplete.
	That we are like, you know, scientists trying to solve the highest mathematical problem, and all we've been given for tools are addition and subtraction.
	We haven't even gotten to multiplication and long division yet, and so we can't understand why we can't solve the problem.
	It isn't as if addition and subtraction are wrong or wrong-headed ideas.
	They're just not complete.
	There's more to the picture.
	And, but the fact that there's more to the picture is something that exclusivist, punitive, organized religion can't admit or acknowledge and will not in a million years.
	Because to admit and acknowledge that there's more yet to come, there's more exploration to be done, that we don't have all the answer, is to wipe out the very reason for the existence of those religions, which of course proclaim that they do have all the answers.
	What do these organized religions think about you, Don, Neil?
	They're not too pleased.
	I didn't think so.
	They call me what they call most people who speak these ideas.
	An apostate.
	A blasphemer.
	A heretic.
	A poor man in, uh, if you read your internet news, it was on the news yesterday and all over the internet, and in the past three days.
	A poor man in Iran, a professor at a university in Iran, was just sentenced to death for saying in Iran, with regard to the Quran and the teachings of Muhammad, the same thing I'm saying right here on this program.
	He asked the question, is it possible that maybe some of the things that people believe about Muhammad and about the Koran, or at least a few of the statements in there, might have been misunderstood or misinterpreted or mistakenly put down or might not be wholly and totally accurate.
	And for such suggestions, for proposing that we at least explore the possibility, the man was sentenced to death.
	Off with his head.
	And that is the way the world treats New ideas in the area of theology.
	Our punitive, exclusivist, organized religions have not seriously considered a new theological thought in hundreds, if not thousands of years.
	If we halted our own progress in our thinking in any other area of life, in our medical sciences, in our technologies, in our social and political sciences, we'd be still back in the Dark Ages!
	Well, do you believe, Neil, that there is indeed a higher power somewhere?
	There is.
	Not a higher power in the sense of being more powerful than that which is the only power of which we are all a part, but there is a greater power in the sense of the cumulative effect of power when it is used collectively.
	That is to say, whenever two or more are gathered.
	And so, if you're asking me if it's more powerful for ten people to think a thought or take an action than it is for one person to do so, there's no question about that.
	And that's higher power.
	That's the power of God when it's focused and utilized in a collective way.
	And there are ways to do that, not the least of which is prayer.
	By the way, let me say, having said that, that 95% of what the world's organized religions teach us is in fact Extremely valuable.
	Very wise.
	Insightful.
	And wonderful stuff.
	And that's why the world clings to so much of it so avidly.
	Because we see that it is.
	We can tell that it is.
	We inherently know that.
	You know what?
	This is good stuff.
	I'm talking here about 5%.
	of the teachings five percent of the belief systems that cause us to be dysfunctional with each other and not the least of that five percent is the part of it that says our way is the only way and we know all there is to know on this subject there's nothing new to be added to wisdom on this subject just get it we're the right ones and we know how to get back to where we all came from and that five percent is what is killing the whole game And causing culture wars all over this planet.
	You know, it's a matter of history that most of the wars fought on this planet.
	Not all of them, but most of them have been fought over religious differences.
	Oh, absolutely.
	There's no question about that.
	And so what we have to do is work together now, and we are offered many suggestions of how to do that in the New Revelations, A Conversation with God, which was God's answer to my plea after September 11th.
	Please, please!
	What is it that we don't get here yet?
	And what is the way out of this mess?
	And in that book, we're given many suggestions, including five steps to peace that could allow us to live together in harmony at last.
	It's not impossible.
	I do have great optimism for the future, and I disagree with those who say that our violence is part of our nature.
	It is normal, but it is not natural.
	I'll tell you one thing, Neil.
	You've come a long way since that moment of depression many years ago, haven't you?
	Well, I have indeed.
	I have been blessed enormously.
	I have been brought an awareness of things that I never knew I could become aware of.
	I've been given an opportunity to see into things, to have some insight.
	And I am very grateful for that.
	But I am also deeply aware that all people have that opportunity, and many people have taken advantage of it.
	And I'm just one among millions of people.
	Stay with us.
	Now it's your turn.
	Your questions for Neil Donald Walsh.
	clarity like this, insights like this, but the difficulty has been that most of us are
	keeping what I call the silent agreement. We're not communicating with each other,
	we're not saying anything out loud, we don't want to get outside of the no hassle zone,
	so we stay inside the no hassle zone and we are, each of us, afraid to announce that the emperor
	is wearing no clothes. Stay with us, now it's your turn.
	Your questions for Neil Donnell Walsh.
	I'm George Norrie and you're listening to Coast to Coast AM.
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	Iraq took a giant step toward accepting the UN resolution mandating a return of international arms inspectors.
	During a parliament session in Baghdad today, President Saddam Hussein's son told his fellow lawmakers they should accept the plan.
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	Congress gets back to work today in a lame duck session where Democrats will still control the Senate, albeit temporarily.
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	Welcome back to Coast to Coast.
	George Norrie here.
	Neil, of everything that over the years that you have picked up in your conversations, is there a single Factor a single episode that just keeps you just even shaking your head going, wow, this is something.
	Why me?
	I think it's not a single factor, but not a single incident.
	It's the number of people all over the world, because I've now had occasion in the past three years to travel the world.
	I mean, everywhere, really, from Moscow to Korea to Japan to Machu Picchu and every place in between.
	And it's the number of people.
	You know, there was one single incident, now that I'm thinking about it.
	And, you know, George, frankly, it's hard to describe it without sounding so I'm incredibly egotistical and self-serving and I swear on everything that's holy.
	I don't mean it that way, but I was in South Africa in the airport in Johannesburg and an old woman came up to me.
	She was a black woman.
	She must have been around 75 or 80 years old.
	She was an elderly woman in the baggage claim area and she walked up to me in baggage claim and just looked at me and said, can I just touch you?
	And I said, please don't do that.
	Please don't do that to me.
	That's not who I am.
	I don't pretend to be that.
	I don't want anyone to think of me as that.
	I'm not that special.
	I'm not that unusual.
	I know you think you know who I am, but you don't know who I am if you think that you do.
	She said, no, you don't understand.
	It's not that I think you're that special, but what you have brought to my life has changed me forever.
	And I just wanted to touch the source of that.
	as not my way of lifting you up and honoring you, but of thanking you by sharing my energy
	with you.
	I stopped and tears flowed.
	I said, Who are you?
	She said, I'm just a person you've touched in your life.
	With that she walked away.
	My wife was in the ladies room while I was waiting for the bags to come around on the
	belt and she came out of the ladies room and I was standing there in tears.
	She said, Honey, what's the matter?
	I said, I can't even speak.
	That kind of thing, people coming up to me out of the blue on the streets of Moscow,
	in Seoul, Korea, all over Europe, in South America, and saying things like that to me.
	Not one or two, but over and over and over again.
	That has convinced me not of how special I am as a human being.
	In fact, quite the opposite.
	It's made it very clear to me that I'm not that special.
	It's been a very humbling experience, but it has made clear to me that something has occurred here that has touched the lives of Millions of people in a way they've never been touched before.
	Do you offer techniques, if that's a right phrase, techniques at how to reach this inner self that has the ability to then communicate with God?
	Yes, I have in fact in a small booklet that I wrote once.
	I did outline for people one process by which they might try to see if they could have a more profound experience of the ongoing conversation with God that, as I mentioned in the earlier hour, we are all having.
	And that process begins, A, by acknowledging the possibility, by eliminating any thought or any idea that what we're discussing here is not possible.
	So, first we begin by acknowledging the possibility.
	We've moved to step two, which is acknowledging that we, individually, are worthy.
	of having such an experience.
	So we get rid of our thoughts of unworthiness, that yes, maybe God has talked to a few people throughout the ages, maybe God has communicated with human beings, maybe even in this day and time, the Gandhis among us and the Mother Teresas and so forth, but certainly not me, because I'm not worthy.
	So we eliminate our thoughts of our own unworthiness.
	Then third, we eliminate our unbelief.
	That is to say, when we've had striking moments of inspiration in our own lives, ideas that have come to us out of the blue, Well, the chance utterance of a friend on the street that turns into just what we needed to hear.
	When we have those moments, we learn to stop discounting them and begin to accept them as exactly what they are.
	The universe, if you please, the source of all wisdom, communicating with us and to us in a way that it understands we would most be likely to accept and to allow ourselves to notice.
	And after we get past that place of unbelief to a place of belief, then to be open and
	aware, the fourth step in the process is to just keep your eyes wide open.
	Keep your ears open and just notice how life is bringing to you in the exact moment called
	now just what you needed to hear to open yourself to that larger place of wisdom.
	Not the least of which might be, I might add, the very radio program to which you are now
	listening.
	Let's go to some calls.
	Wildcard caller, welcome to Coast to Coast.
	You're on the air with Neal Donald Walsh.
	Go ahead.
	Good evening, George.
	Good evening, Neal.
	I'm so excited, Neal, that you have chosen to come on the air and show this with us.
	I understand, too, that you are no different than George or myself, and you have shared this story and enlightened a lot of people to just listen to those subtle messages that most people don't even pay attention to.
	I have two questions and after the second question I'll hang up and I'll listen to your response here.
	I love your books.
	I've read one.
	I went to three.
	I actually read one twice and then I went to three and I devoured it and now I'm back at two reading it.
	But I can say that three is my most favorite, especially the part about the psychic stuff.
	I'm about page 120.
	Did you keep your yellow manual script that you wrote on originally?
	Yes, they're in a safe.
	I would guess so.
	It would probably be cool to kind of have.
	And then I'll ask this question and I'll hang up and I'll listen to your answer on the radio.
	Once that your books were in print, did you go back and read them to kind of grasp what you had written again once they were like really nice and in print and in books so that you could kind of grasp what the rest of us were reading?
	Thank you, Neal, and I'll hang up and listen to it on the radio.
	That's a very intuitive and insightful question.
	I mean, it's a wonderful human question.
	The answer is yes.
	In fact, when I was, I want to say, bringing the books through, I did not have the experience of writing a book.
	I had the experience of taking dictation.
	And so, in fact, when the books came out in print, I would sit down and read them for the first time as someone else might read a book that was handed to them.
	And that's how I experienced it.
	I would raise my eyebrows and I would catch things that I didn't quite grasp the total depth of or the full meaning of when it was coming through me.
	Because I don't, by the way, edit myself.
	I mean, I put down exactly what comes through without editing.
	First time and only time.
	Nor does anyone else edit my books.
	They tell me at the publishing house in New York that I'm the only author in the house.
	Who's material is not edited by anyone.
	It's published just the way it's sent to them.
	And so, yeah, I actually sit down.
	Not only do I read the books when they first come out.
	As a first-time reader might, but I'll go one step further and tell you that every day I read one of the seven books in the With God series.
	I read from one of those books every day, and it's like new to me every day.
	And the most exciting book, not because it's the most recent, because if you read it you'll see why it's the most exciting of the whole series, is the New Revelations, A Conversation With God, which has just been published because it contains extraordinary, insightful, And deeply intuitive understandings of what's happening in the world today and what we as average people can do to shift the direction in which we seem to be inexorably moving.
	Once you decided to publish, did you get publishers jumping up and down the first time or did it take a long time to find that publisher to take a chance with this book?
	I did not send the book off to 15 or 20 or 30 publishers as many first-time would-be, wannabe authors would do, and I've heard stories of that.
	Nor did I even, for that matter, include a covering letter.
	I simply sent, as kind of a dare, again, going back to what I said in the first hour, I was told in the dialogue, this will one day become a book.
	I didn't believe that.
	So I thought, well, we'll see.
	So I thought, if it's true, I won't have to send it to 30 or 40 or even 10 publishers.
	I'll send it to a handful, three or four.
	Sure.
	I did literally that.
	I simply wrapped up the manuscript without even a letter attached, just a note.
	I put a note inside and the note said, read any 10 pages.
	And I put it in there, and I sent it off to some publishers.
	The first three or four publishers I sent it to sent me a rejection letter.
	The fifth publisher that I sent it to called me up one day and said, I like this.
	I'd like to publish it.
	And I said, this is fascinating because I already got a rejection letter from you.
	I had a rejection letter from his acquisitions editor.
	He said, we rejected this manuscript.
	I said, yes, well, your acquisitions editor did.
	By the way, that acquisitions editor is still worth that company.
	He laughs about it, but he did, in fact, reject the book, saying it was old news and nothing new.
	But the publisher was very wise.
	He got a hold of the manuscript and felt that it was, in fact, worthwhile publishing, and he put it out there.
	This was Hampton Roads, a very forward-looking publishing company in Hampton Roads, Virginia.
	And they published the book, and so I only headed to five publishers, and it got published within a few months after I began sending the manuscripts out.
	And then it was picked up by a major publisher in New York City, which purchased the book from Hampton Roads and pays Hampton Roads a royalty on every book they sell, which has not been too bad for Hampton Roads either.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And that major publisher was the Putnam Publishing Company.
	In New York City, which published my next several books, including Friendship with God and Communion with God.
	Since then, I've moved to a new publisher, Atria Books, which is an imprint of Simon & Schuster, which has just published the new Revelations, A Conversation with God.
	Well, good for you.
	Let's go first-time caller.
	Welcome to Coast to Coast.
	You're on the air with us.
	Hi there.
	Hello?
	Yes, go ahead.
	Where are you calling from?
	Hi, this is Sam from Albuquerque, New Mexico.
	Oh, hi, Sam.
	Go ahead.
	Yes, I've got a couple of things, and then I wanted to let you guys go, but I wanted to thank you both for being on tonight, and thank you for having a great show like this.
	You're welcome.
	I've been having, I don't think it's a coincidence, but I've been seeing the 333 everywhere I go, on the digital phones, on the VCRs, Microwave.
	Everywhere I go, I've been seeing this number, 333.
	I don't, uh, I've never had it before, but it just started about a month ago.
	And I was wondering if that could mean anything.
	What's any significance there, Neil?
	Some people do see a certain sequence of numbers and it plagues them.
	It haunts them.
	11 is a very common one.
	Yes.
	I think what's happening here, Sam, is not that there's any particular significance to 333, but here's what happens.
	When we have what I call a pop-through, a moment when, for whatever reason, our consciousness pops through to the next level, we suddenly become aware of what was always there.
	And it's like when you buy a new car.
	I bought a Ford Windstar a couple of years ago, a green Ford Windstar, I swear to God, Everybody in my town drives green Ford Windstars.
	I never saw so many in my life until I bought one.
	And it's like that.
	So what happens is we become consciously aware, our awareness expands, and we suddenly start seeing things all over the place that were always there.
	And if we become intrigued by seeing something two or three times, the first two or three times, that's the third time I've seen three, three, three, my God, in the past two days, suddenly We plant a seed in our mind that causes us to be, I want to say, on the lookout.
	And we start glancing at clocks, we start glancing at wherever numbers appear, and all of a sudden, there it is again.
	There it is again.
	And we think that it's something exterior to us that's trying to send a message to us, or trying to cause us to notice something larger than just what's happening.
	And the truth is, there is nothing exterior to us.
	I say that again.
	There is nothing exterior to us.
	There is only one thing in the universe.
	All things are one thing, and we are part of the one thing that is.
	So what's happening is that we're noticing ourselves, and you'll probably see 333 for another year or two until you get to the point where you realize that it in particular Is nothing special, but that what is special is that your whole awareness, your consciousness of life itself around you, and of the synchronicities in life, has expanded to the point where you'll start seeing, Sam, I believe in the next year or two, other synchronicities as well.
	Do you believe in, because I do not, coincidences, I believe that things happen for specific reasons, Neil?
	Yeah, like the conversations with God.
	The dialogue told me that there is no such thing as coincidence, nor is there anything that's called an accident.
	That all things happen, I want to say on purpose, if you please, that nothing occurs by chance, and that life is an extraordinary mosaic, the individual parts of which are not understandable to us.
	We don't get the connection between them until we step back far enough from the entire mosaic to see the picture that it has created.
	And so I join you in that understanding.
	The dialogue has made it very clear to me.
	And therefore, my life is lived in a whole different way from a whole different place.
	I no longer see things as coincidental or as accidental.
	But I rather accept exactly what's happening, and I do, as conversations with God suggested that I do, I see the perfection.
	All right, let's go west of the Rockies.
	Your turn.
	You're on Coast to Coast with us.
	Hi there.
	Hi.
	How you doing, Neil?
	I've been a musician for 20 years, also a poet, and when I write my poetry, it kind of comes down through a different channel, almost like I'm conscious, right?
	Sort of like the way you wrote.
	I listened to your first hour.
	I was kind of interested in your early beginnings when you were homeless.
	And the way you started, you're going 45 right now.
	I'm still going through a different, uh, I guess midlife crisis, if you want to call it that.
	I used to be a musician, right?
	And, uh, I was at a club one time, watching my roommate play drums.
	I was sitting next to a guy at the table next to me who was kind of strange.
	He, I said, man, I need something new to read.
	And so he wrote a couple of books on this cocktail napkin.
	One was your book.
	And the other one was Seat of the Soul.
	I haven't read your book, but you just sound so cool.
	And I guess what I'm trying to ask you is, how can I get my poetry out there like you did when you were down and out?
	By not needing to.
	By not having any necessity to.
	That we understand that the process of creation, as is true of the process of life, satisfies itself with the completion of the process itself.
	That we write our poetry, not to get it out there, not to have anyone else read it, but simply to write our poetry, to express and experience who we really are.
	Let me tell you something, my friend.
	If when I sat down to write The New Revelations, a conversation about this latest book, with a thought that, gee, I wonder how many it'll sell, I wonder if it'll sell at all, I wonder what I can do to tweak it or make it better, or what can I do after it's written to market it, or, you know, I'd be absolutely insane and totally blocked in the creative process.
	I don't write the New Revelations or any other book, nor do I do anything in my life for that matter.
	It was an eye toward the outcome.
	I've eliminated expectation and I've eliminated any need whatsoever for a particular outcome.
	But I have not stopped doing things.
	I was just doing them now for a different reason.
	The only reason I now do anything, write a book, eat a meal, put on a particular outfit, Call my hair or do anything is to express my idea about myself, to experience myself exteriorly as I know myself to be interiorly.
	And when I do those things for that reason, the satisfaction occurs in the moment that the act occurs and it's all one piece and nothing needs to follow.
	Now, what's ironic about that is that when I let go of the need for outcomes, Extraordinarily, all the outcomes I would have struggled and hoped for in the old days fall down on me literally without effort.
	It's like the old saying, Neil, go with the flow.
	That's it.
	Simple as that.
	You just do that and don't push.
	Yet I think there are times when you have to position yourself for things that you might want in life, whatever they may be.
	But generally, I have also found, like you believe, you just set your own Your own faith in something and just let it happen.
	Most of the time it will, if you believe in it.
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	Neil, your book, The New Revelations, how does that compare with the biblical book of Revelation?
	Well, I don't think it compares at all.
	In the sense that it's not comparable.
	The New Revelations is an entirely different kind of book.
	It's extraordinarily contemporary.
	It talks about not the future, as the Book of Revelations talked about, but about our present situation in this moment right here, right now.
	It explains in great detail why what's happening is happening, and then it gives, in the second half of the book, some very specific and powerful suggestions to ordinary, everyday people with regard to what they can do to help shift the prevailing notion of life on Earth and change the direction in which we're moving.
	It's the right book at the right time.
	If people are looking at the world today and saying, my God, is it totally and completely out of control?
	And am I just along here for the ride in the last chapter?
	Or is there a way that I can impact what's happening and do something positive about it?
	Of the books you've written, is there a favorite?
	Well, it is the New Revelations.
	Trust me when I tell you it's not because it's the latest book I've written, but far and away the most important.
	And I think it's because it's more appealing to a person who's not what I would call a new thought person or a new age person.
	The book is written and aimed toward, just by the way it approaches the issues that it addresses, the average person.
	Even thought conservatives and so forth.
	It's a book that can be read by everyone.
	A sweeping overview that's not focused in on any one particular matter or issue.
	Without a doubt, The New Revelations is my favorite book and the most important one.
	If I take that out of the equation, if I don't consider this latest effort, then I would say that the favorite book of all those I've written is Friendship with God, which talks in terms of how we can, each of us, develop our own friendship with the divine And use our relationship with God functionally in our everyday life, so that God no longer has to be simply a conceptual experience, but can be a practical functioning experience that changes and improves our lives.
	All right, let's go back to the calls.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	You may proceed with Neil Donald Walsh.
	Go ahead.
	George and Neil, how are you?
	We're doing great.
	Where are you calling from?
	Daytona.
	Okay, great.
	Great show.
	Hey, um, you know, I was, I was raised in a religion where I was told there's only one way to heaven.
	And that always bothered me.
	Cause you know, I'm thinking 250 million minus 4 billion, that hell's going to be like a really crowded place, you know?
	And, uh, I met somebody, uh, a while back that, that, that gave me another way of looking at things.
	And it really, it really kind of opened up my mind.
	Yet at the same time, it didn't change my view of my religion, which is what I think religion is so scared of.
	The first one is just a silly one, but it's like, you know, Benedict Arnold in America is considered a traitor.
	You know, that's the worst thing you can be called.
	But in England, they have like Benedict Arnold Day.
	He's like a hero because he did good for his country.
	You know, a different way of looking at things.
	And also, the other thing that he said to me was, if you look at life sort of as a mountain, and the top of the mountain is heaven, there's many paths to the top of that mountain.
	Some of them might lead to nowhere, but most paths end up at the top.
	And they're not all the same, so it's just a different way of looking at things, and again, like I said, it didn't change my own personal view of religion, or my religion, just What might happen to other people, which, to me, they all were going to hell, you know, according to my religion.
	That's really all I had to say.
	Good show.
	Well, he sounds like he's on to something as well, Neil.
	If the world could hear what was just said, they would need virtually nothing else.
	All we need, really, the truth is, it all breaks down to one word.
	It's a simple word.
	It's almost simplistic.
	And that word is tolerance.
	if you would simply tolerate or if you choose a softer word acceptance if you choose to
	accept each other as we are and without giving up our own individual beliefs which by the
	way I don't invite people to do some people try to cast me now as a person who is railing
	against organized religion and inviting people to reject or abandon their traditional beliefs
	Nothing of the sort.
	What I'm suggesting is believe what works for you and what causes your life to be richer and happier and more joyful.
	But for heaven's sake, and I choose those words advisedly, for heaven's sake, don't require me to accept your beliefs and whatever you do, don't use force in order to make me do so.
	That would change everything on our planet and would have eliminated 95% of the wars we fought on this earth.
	What is your take on people who believe to be psychics?
	Well, I think that psychic experience is very common.
	It is a very real experience.
	Our psychic sense is our sixth sense.
	It's the ability that we have to go beyond what our five senses bring us in terms of incoming data.
	And I think that everyone is psychic.
	And again, we call it something else.
	And most people, because we have been culturalized against Admitting, acknowledging, and expanding our psychic abilities and our psychic awareness.
	Because we've been stigmatized away from that and culturalized against it, we, first of all, tone it down.
	That is, we mute it.
	We put it on an eternal mute.
	Or, if we do have an occasional psychic experience, once again, we call it something else.
	We call it serendipity or coincidence.
	Isn't that strange?
	What we do with the last thing we say, unless you say it with kind of a nervous laugh, Oh, wasn't that a psychic moment?
	But in truth, we all are extraordinarily psychic, and as soon as we begin to accept the possibility of that, and then move into the experience of that, we begin, if we seriously explore it, experiencing our psychic selves in a much higher and broader way, much more consistently, and people have done that.
	So the answer to your question is, from my experience, in my own life, Psychic ability is common to everyone.
	It is our undeveloped sixth sense, and I believe that humans of the future will have developed that psychic sense and live a far more expanded life than we've ever known.
	First-time caller, your turn.
	You're on the air with us on Coast to Coast.
	Hi.
	Hi.
	Yes.
	Hi, Neil.
	Hi, George.
	Hello there.
	My name is Molly, and I'm 20 years old.
	I'm calling from Portland, Oregon.
	Pretty local to Neil there.
	And I had kind of a two-part question.
	First, I wanted to say that I've been studying religion for as long as I can remember, basically, since I was aware, maybe eight or nine years old.
	Your first book, I've read one, two, and three, but the first book was just the answer to everything that I had studied.
	I've studied Buddhism, Hindu, Christianity, you name it.
	I just want to say to anyone who's listening out there, if you're tied between two or more religions, reading this first book is going to clear, like, everything up for you.
	And I wanted to ask, if you're planning on printing the book in paperback anytime soon, because I see it as such an essential, such essential information to society, And I just think that everyone out there in the entire world needs to have this data.
	And I just wanted to know if you're going to print it in paperback, kind of similar to how the Bible is printed, just, you know, very cheaply with that paper, thin, you know, pages, just so that it could be distributed, you know, everywhere.
	Well, you know, I don't have control over that.
	The book is owned by the Putnam Publishing Company, and they are continuing to sell it in hardcover and will do so as long as it sells.
	In the massive quantities that even now, six, seven years after its release, it sells in huge numbers.
	And I don't think that because bought them quite properly, is motivated by profit, they're selling it as hardcover.
	It can be purchased, by the way, in softcover, however, from Hunter & Stoughton in Great Britain, because it was published there originally in softcover.
	So I always tell people, particularly prisons, because prisons want to buy this book.
	It's become a great, a popular book in prisons for people.
	Very rehabilitative, we're told, by the wardens and by the spiritual counselors in those prisons.
	But you can't have a hardcover book in most prisons, because they can be used as weapons.
	The edges of the books are very hard, and so only soft covers are allowed there.
	So they get all their books from Hunter & Stout Publishing Company in Great Britain, and you can purchase yours online the same way.
	Neil, have you ever been verbally attacked in public?
	And I'm wondering how you deflect that, if that's ever occurred.
	Yeah, it occurs daily.
	And I deflect it by honoring the person who's doing the attacking.
	I literally look at them and say, you know what?
	I understand how you could feel that way.
	I really understand how you could feel that way.
	And I have no need to change your mind about the way you feel.
	I'm only going to ask you to have no need to change my mind about the way I feel.
	And if we can go to that place, I can tolerate you and you can tolerate me.
	We can notice that our differences do not have to create divisions.
	That the variance in our beliefs does not have to bring violence to our lives.
	We can walk hand in hand, my friend, down the same path even though we believe different things.
	Want to travel with me?
	And most people, not all, but most people smile at me and say, you know, you're hard to argue with.
	Let's go to the wild card call now.
	Welcome to Coast to Coast.
	Hi.
	Hello.
	This is Jake.
	Hello, Jake.
	Where are you, Jake?
	I'm in Fort Lauderdale, and it's a pleasure, first of all, George, after listening to you so many times, to speak to you.
	And Neil, you certainly are on the correct wavelength.
	I was fortunate enough to have just had a 26th anniversary of learning the process by which one could open oneself to become aware of the reality that exists.
	And moreover, I drank a lot of coffee, and from the outset that I learned the stuff from, uh, and because these are universal truths, many of your words are the words that I've heard from other great teachers.
	But my coffee cup says, thou art that which thou seekest, so be still and know thyself.
	And acceptance is certainly the primary goal of what this is all about.
	We're here to learn to love.
	And I will hang up and listen to any response that you may offer.
	It's been a pleasure.
	Thank you, Jake.
	That was well said, Neil.
	I profoundly agree, of course.
	That's the message that people will find if they look at any of my books or pick up my writings in magazines or Or if they go to the website at cwg.org and see what's available there.
	Or just go to Art's website and pick up the link there to my website.
	They'll find basically the same message that Jake has just delivered.
	If we only had six billion Jakes on the planet, our troubles would go away literally overnight.
	What's your take of someone like an Osama Bin Laden who obviously has got so much bitterness within himself?
	He is born of a belief system, was raised in the belief system, and has expanded a belief system that causes him to behave in those extraordinarily damaging ways, damaging to other people.
	He is doing what he thinks is right by his own let's.
	No one does anything inappropriate given their model of the world.
	So what I think of Osama Bin Laden is that he He has some extraordinarily skewered and distorted ideas about life and about God that have caused him to behave in the way that he's behaving.
	And he's doing what he thinks he needs to do in order to live out the beliefs in which he has found himself captured.
	So what I would do if I were trying to straighten him out is I would sit down and have a long talk with him, it wouldn't happen overnight, about why he believes the things he believes.
	And I would begin with a startling question.
	I would say to him, what hurts you so much that you feel you have to hurt me to heal it?
	And then at that time, he smacked him over the head with a 2x4.
	Well, we've been trying to do that with the people of the world.
	We disagreed for a very long time.
	And it shuts them up, and sometimes it shuts them out completely by killing them.
	But the behaviors that they represent, that emerge through them, Emerge again.
	They bubble up all over again.
	We can put that kind of a band-aid on the problem, and sometimes our need for vengeance and punishment causes us to do so, but the problem itself will never go away.
	The problem of violent behavior on this planet re-emerges, re-emerges, and re-emerges.
	As smart as we think we are, as sophisticated as we imagine we've become, as technologically advanced as we see ourselves as being, we can't solve the simple problem of getting along.
	And hitting people over the head with a 2x4 is not the way to do it.
	I'm not sure though I can forgive atrocities and the people who are behind that.
	I guess that's just me.
	Well, I'm with John Kennedy who said, forgive but never forget.
	And there's a difference.
	I think we forgive those who do the unthinkable to us, but we never forget that they did them.
	We watch them carefully.
	We make sure they never do it again and take whatever measure one has to take to make sure they never do it again.
	We make sure we're never vulnerable to that kind of thing again.
	And one way we make ourselves invulnerable is by working at the level of belief and changing the belief systems that created the behavior to begin with.
	Let's go west of the Rockies now.
	You're on the air with Neil Donald Walsh.
	Go ahead.
	Good morning, gentlemen.
	Another awesome show on Coast to Coast.
	I thank you both very much.
	Thank you.
	I was going to ask about the dark side.
	What is the thing about the shadow people?
	Is there such a thing as Lucifer or Satan?
	Is that part of this?
	Because I know you're speaking the truth, Neil.
	My understanding is That there is not, except Lucifer and the Shadow Side that exists in our own mind.
	We do live in a universe of duality.
	That is to say, there's this and there's that.
	There's up and there's down.
	There's black and there's white.
	And there's what we call good and what we call evil.
	But that we are, in fact, if I could put it this way, creating that in our own mind by the judgments that we make.
	But that in and of itself, evil, or for that matter, good, does not exist.
	Because as I mentioned in the other hour, the universe, as an objective reality, has no such judgment about things.
	So, evil is evil because we think it is so, and so is said about good as well.
	Those are definitions, by the way, that we are wise to make.
	I'm not suggesting that we don't make those definitions.
	We do need to make those definitions, as long as we live in this relative world.
	But we need to understand that we are creating it as such, and that we can uncreate it just as quickly.
	That's the magic, that's the power, and that's the insight the human race needs to have right now.
	Evil does not exist exterior to the human race, but is an interior process that we can reverse.
	If you think it's exterior, being forced upon us by some Luciferian or Satanic force, then of course we're at the mercy of that, and there's nothing we can do except pray to God to help us out of this mess.
	On the other hand, if we see ourselves as being at cause in the matter, Of the greatest and the worst of our moments and experiences, suddenly we're in control, which is where we've been all the time.
	And what does the future hold for Neil Donald Walsh?
	I hope to spend the rest of my life giving people back to themselves and waking people up and causing the world to notice that there is another way to live our life on this planet.
	Very good.
	Neil, thank you for spending the time with me on Coast to Coast tonight.
	Appreciate it.
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