Art Bell’s Open Lines episode spirals into Planet X—a 2003 "burned-out sun" or rogue planet allegedly covered up by NASA, the Vatican, and Russian officials, tied to Zachariah Sitchin’s claims of a 90% extinction event. Callers debate survival strategies (bunkers, catamarans), biblical prophecies (Revelation’s one-third fatality), and post-collapse chaos, with Jay Carrie citing San Diego State University research on rape during societal breakdowns. Mary, a former NASA contractor, hints at "Nebulan" discussions but dismisses apocalyptic theories, while skeptics argue capture by the sun or past solar system events debunk the threat. Bell’s speculative framing reveals deep public fear of celestial disasters and government secrecy, blurring science with doomsday fatalism. [Automatically generated summary]
From the high desert in the great American Southwest, on a Friday night, Saturday morning, I bid you all good evening, afternoon, or morning, or I don't know, whatever time it is, wherever you are, we cover the whole globe with this program, one way or the other.
It's great to be here.
And we're just going to have fun tonight.
Friday night, Saturday mornings are held open for, I don't know, you know, kind of whatever comes along.
And whatever came along this week is what we're going to do.
And specifically, we're going to have a big talk about Planet X. And so we'll get to that in a minute.
Let me review what news seems relevant.
A suicide driver slammed his explosives-laden vehicle into a concrete barrier right in front of the U.S. Consulate Friday, as you know by now, I'm sure.
Setting off a huge explosion.
It killed 11, injured 45.
In Washington, U.S. officials believe it's probably Al-Qaeda.
U.S. bishops, that's everywhere right now.
Americans, Roman Catholic bishops, overwhelmingly approved a policy Friday.
This is interesting, that allows them to keep sexually abusive clergy in the priesthood, but bar them from face-to-face contact with parishioners.
Now, they had an opportunity to have a zero-tolerance policy, and apparently they've decided not to do it.
That one really, really blows me away.
Why would there be any tolerance at all for anybody who sexually abused a child?
I mean, any tolerance.
That's like taking a bad cop and just saying, okay, well, you know, we're going to put you on the desk for the rest of the time.
I mean, we don't have any tolerance for that out here, right?
Can't abuse children.
And why would the Roman Catholic Church have any sort of policy for them at all, you know, keeping them out of face-to-face contact with prisoners?
Well, what are they doing in the church at all?
They shouldn't be in the church.
Right?
Or am I wrong?
I think I'm right.
The judge in the Arthur Anderson obstruction trial ruled today that jurors do not have to agree on who committed the crime as long as each of them believes somebody did.
That's interesting.
It'll probably make it easier for them to convict.
I don't know.
It would be interesting to see how it all comes down.
South Carolina, the governor there ordered state troopers and other authorities to South Carolina's borders today.
Now, this is pretty interesting.
The governor of South Carolina ordering authorities to the borders to stop government shipments of plutonium that could begin arriving from Colorado as early as this weekend.
Hodges, who has very much opposed the shipments, read a statement declaring a state of emergency but refused to answer any questions about specific plans or roadblocks or other barricades at South Carolina's Savannah River site, a nuclear weapons complex near Aiken.
Yesterday, a federal judge refused to block the shipment of weapons-grade plutonium.
So that's pretty interesting.
The South rises again here or what?
South Carolina is going to apparently or possibly barricade the federal government from coming in.
That's going to be more than just a little interesting to watch.
Now, while we're on the subject of things nuclear, you know Yucca Mountain.
You know Yucca Mountain, right?
Yucca Mountain, you don't?
That's where all the nuclear waste is going, not very far from me, as a matter of fact.
And here's a pretty interesting Associated Press story about Yucca Mountain.
Now, Yucca Mountain, of course, is picked because it is, I mean, remember, we've got to keep this stuff for tens of thousands of years, right?
It's deadly, poisonous, worst-case type plutonium, and we've got to keep it a long time.
So they decided Yucca Mountain is geologically proper.
You know, apparently there's not a lot of water under there, and so that's proper.
And so today, Yucca Mountain had an earthquake this morning.
As a matter of fact, the people on the west side of the town I live in here in Drumpa felt the earthquake.
It occurred at about 5.40 a.m., 75 miles northwest of Las Vegas and about three miles beneath the surface.
In other words, this is an earthquake at Yucca Mountain.
An earthquake at Yucca Mountain.
A Federal Department of Energy spokesperson for the Yucca Mountain Project in Las Vegas told the Associated Press that about 100 scientists and employees at Site Friday were not reporting any damage.
Yucca Mountain, 90 miles northwest of Las Vegas, is the site the president has picked in February to begin storing the nation's spent commercial, industrial, and military nuclear waste beginning in 2010.
But what happened to the geologically safe part?
It jolted people here on the west side of town awake, so it doesn't seem, I mean, 4.4, that's an earthquake.
There could be a bigger one there, couldn't there?
Isn't that, shouldn't we be rethinking that a little bit?
I mean, if we have built this potential site in a place that has an earthquake fault, well, that doesn't seem too bright to me.
It doesn't seem too geologically sound to me.
How about you?
A residence of town surrounding Vermont, Yankee, can start picking up potassium iodide pills on Monday.
Oh, we do live in a different time, don't we, folks?
Potassium iodide is distributed in a single dose and can block exposure to radioactive iodine in the event of a nuclear accident.
Health officials have found the drug helps prevent thyroid cancer, especially in children.
The pill is going to be made available free of charge to residents of Brattleboro, I believe it's Dummerston, Guilford, Halifax, Marlborough, and Vernon.
Although the Vermont Department of Health program does not start until Monday, about three dozen requests have already been submitted, according to Department of Health District Director there.
The paperwork, which includes a fact sheet, medical screening, and consent forms, will be available at the Department's office on Main Street, the Brooks Memorial Library, and the town clerk's offices in all six towns.
Now, here, for those of us that are going to be living near Yucca Mountain, if it does end up storing all of this stuff, I wonder what they'll give us.
Bet we don't get any pills.
Because it won't matter.
You know, if something breaks out of there, forget the pills, right?
Now, I'm going to give you a warning right now that what we're about to talk about is speculative.
And I'm not saying that I believe necessarily that there is a Planet X. I want to really preface everything by telling you I don't even personally necessarily believe it myself.
However, we've had two very dynamic guests, Mark Hazelwood, Lee Hazelwood's son, and then most recently, Ms. Leader.
And they have talked extensively about Planet X. And I have in my hot little palm a sort of a worst-case scenario type email that I received from somebody about the cover-up and Planet X and all the rest of it.
I'm going to read this to you for a reason in a moment.
But I'm going to, I really do want to preface all of this by saying that I have not made up my mind yet about whether the Planet X story is real.
It may not be.
In fact, there may even only be a slim chance that it is so.
But there is some evidence.
There was an ABC survey that seemed to confirm there is something out there that they speculated could be a burned-out dwarf star or another big planet out there.
And that certainly caught my attention.
You know, when ABC did that, I went, wow, you know, that really sounds just like Planet X. And then there have been people saying, well, you know, there are some observatories that have seen this and its big cover-up and all the rest of it.
So I've got a lot to tell you about that, and then we're going to sort of set up a scenario that I would like you very much for you to respond to.
Both presentations, I thought, by Leah Hazelwood and Nancy Leeder were excellent, well thought out, and scary.
Now, I'm going to read you an email, and this is not a news article.
This is just an email from a listener.
I'm going to read it to you as is, and then we're going to talk about it a little bit.
It starts out, oh my God, Art, people must know about this.
Planet X is inbound.
Its approach is currently causing Earth to experience a long list of seismic, volcanic, and weather-related problems.
When Planet X passes in the spring of 2003, Earth's rotation will pause for a few days.
This will result in massive Earth changes and a shifting of the poles.
Planet X overview.
He claims that insiders in NASA speculate two-thirds of the entire population of the planet will perish during the upcoming pole shift caused by the passage of Planet X in 2003.
Corresponding, by the way, to Nancy Leder's prediction, 2003, and are readying themselves.
The Vatican, it says here, is fully abreast of what is expected.
The public is not being warned and given their chance to prepare.
The volume of leaks from insiders, observatories, even the Vatican is going to burst the dam of this disclosure wide open.
The most important story on earth in over 3,000 years is fast breaking loose from being held back by controllers of the financial markets and major media for fear of panic and financial collapse.
Well, you know, I sort of agree with that.
That's what would happen.
These controllers put money in higher regard than people.
The public can be given a chance to prepare by being informed.
Our planet is about to go through massive regular Earth changes once again in the spring of 2003.
So that'd be, what, less than a year now, as a result of the passage of our 10th planet through our immediate solar system.
Many areas are now getting a minor preview of these events because of the electromagnetic connection between the planets and they're experiencing unusual weather, storms, volcanism, seismic activity.
Planet X orbits between our sun and its dark twin.
A diagram from the new 1987 New Science and Invention Encyclopedia shows our dead twin sun and the 10th planet, he claims.
Zachariah Sitchin, the world-renowned scholar and author of The Twelfth Planet and archaeologist, does indicate on occasion his knowledge of the return of Nibiru at this time.
To be too public about it would prove dangerous because of his weight in the scientific community.
Sitchin also states absolutely and openly, when Planet X returns, it would remove 90% of currently unsatisfactory human beings from the planet, 9 out of 10.
And in fact, that coincides with what Ms. Leader said the other evening.
She said about 9 out of 10 would die.
A group of scientists in Russia going on here in year 2000 held several meetings to discuss the inbound planet discovered from one of their largest observatories.
A 66-year-old professor and physicist, let it be known, he attended this meeting.
This led to the infamous 2003 problem from a Reuters News service where on September 13, 2000, top Russian government officials called for a commission to study the problem, which was said to expect to cause a string of calamities and a massive population shrinkage.
They openly wondered whether Russia would still even exist as a country afterwards.
Andrei Shushkin, who wrote the story, has admitted privately he did not know why the Russian leaders were saying this, and he added his own speculation that didn't fit the story.
All follow-up stories written to squash the disclosure elaborated on Andrei's speculation and left out key points in the original story, such as massive population shrinkage.
Private contact made a wealthy businessman in Germany to a large observatory in Petersburg, Russia, yielded significant information.
The man in charge of finding new planets there admitted that they've been watching Planet X for three years now and are, in fact, worried about the substantial damage it'll do to Earth during its passage.
The name they gave for Planet X was Raja Sun or Great Star.
As of late, there's been a rash of observatories that have closed their doors for various reasons.
Many will simply not point their equipment for anyone in the direction of the Orion constellation if they do remain open.
Some will give an excuse that there's some sort of obstruction in the way or equipment failure.
All at once, renovations are their favorite excuse.
Griffith Observatory is the latest in a handful of our nation's planetariums to undergo major renovations in recent years.
Others include the Adler Planetarium, an astronomy museum in Chicago, the Hayden Planetarium At the Rose Center for Earth and Space in New York.
Coincidental or not, there are other observations in various countries doing the same thing at this very time.
X has intentionally been made to sound ridiculous and confusing for several reasons, one of which is to avoid causing panic among the world's population.
Many websites and articles continue to be written about Planet X that spread lies and disinformation.
For example, they say Planet X only may exist, or there is no evidence for its existence, or it comes around only once every few million years, even if it does exist at all.
This first level of disinformation is widespread.
The second layer of disinformation is for people that have done their homework and absolutely know that Planet X does exist.
For them, the disinformation artists are saying it will not arrive in our lifetime.
Lastly, for the observatories that are completely aware of Planet X and its arrival time, they are saying, keep quiet, don't worry, nothing will happen during the passage.
X's mass, high plasma charge magnetism and density is such that it disrupts the surface of every planet it passes in fact.
History shows approximately seven years prior to its passage that its far-reaching electromagnetic influence changes the Earth's core flows, triggering major weather changes.
Well, we haven't had those, have we?
Volcanic and seismic activity start to change three to four decades prior to the passage.
Since early 1996, traditional weather has changed dramatically, breaking all time records regularly.
The uptick of quakes, volcanic incidents, and changes in electromagnetics are being kept out of the media as much as possible.
Weather alone can falsely be blamed on global warming and sun cycles, but not Earth's rumblings and solar system-wide changes at the same time.
So that's the email that I got.
And I'll withhold the gentleman's name.
It's just an email, folks.
Not a newspaper story, although he did quote some sources within that email.
Now, what I thought we would do tonight is the following.
Number one, let's ask a few questions.
For example, if X does exist and will do as suggested or even part of what was suggested in that email or by some of my guests, do you believe that our government would tell us about it?
Or do you think they would withhold the information for as long as possible for a government?
That's a really good question because of the effects it would have.
Such an announcement, of course, would cause the financial markets are already heating and hoeing and barely hanging in there, right?
Another bad day on Wall Street, not as bad as it's been, but not good.
It's true around the world, really.
So, you know, the financial markets would be an absolute mess.
There would be panic.
There would be partying.
There would be...
You know, I don't know what there would be.
And so...
Number one, do you believe...
That's number one.
Number two, if you found out it was real, and let's say Earth or nine out of ten people on Earth, and this is just brutally right on with what everybody is saying, nine out of ten are going to die, right?
Yet about three months, you saw this object begin to get bigger and bigger in the night sky.
The sight of the touch or the scent of the sound...
Or the strength of an oak when you steep in the ground.
The wonder of flowers to be covered and then to burst up.
To tarmac to the sun again.
Or to fly to the sun without burning a wing.
To lie in the meadow and hear the grass sing how All these things in our memories so old And they used them to cause To find the light To find the light To
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I mean, it's just not a safe place these days, is it?
I mean, here we have certain people trying to kill us, you know, with atomic energy, radiation, right?
They're trying to kill us.
They're going to explode a dirty bomb or a real atomic bomb or a suitcase bomb or, you know, it's going to be Captain Tripps or who?
Who the hell knows these days?
We're threatened with everything, right?
We really are.
And then we might kill ourselves with our own radiation.
We're having earthquakes in the geologically safe place.
They say they're going to store this stuff for tens of thousands of years, and then, of course, can transport it across the whole U.S. And then Planet X. Now, of course, this could certainly render relatively moot the entire nuclear question.
Only good thing about Planet X, everybody'd suck it up for a while.
If they came to believe that this planet was about to kill nine out of ten people on Earth, they'd all suck it up pretty quickly, I suppose, and they'd have something to worry about more than America.
We'd have plenty to worry about.
And you know, that's my question.
Again, I'm saying this again.
I don't necessarily believe any of this is true, but I've had very interesting guests who think it certainly is true, and it's coming in 2003.
That's soon.
How would you spend, if you knew it for sure, your last three months, how would you spend that time?
What would you do?
And I'm trying to elicit.
I want a really honest answer, if possible.
Most people probably say, well, you know, I'd be with my family.
Well, I would, and I'd probably be here, too, talking that baby in.
Do you believe all this Planet X stuff?
Do you believe it?
I don't know.
I get really articulate guests like Nancy Meader.
And on those nights, I worry.
When I read emails like I just read you, I worry.
And so, if it were true, I think it's...
Number one, not until we found out on our own.
They wouldn't tell us.
Look what it would do.
No, they wouldn't tell us.
I mean, they barely tell us about nuclear accidents.
They wouldn't tell us about something of this magnitude.
you know you never know Now, let me give you a couple of computer responses, okay?
Victor in Memphis, Tennessee says, I think old Planet X stuff is a bunch of hooey.
Maybe.
That's one.
let's see.
I, William and, Account for Sean.
Then there's William in Portland who says, I think that our glorious leaders will deny Planet X right up to where they wave goodbye from the closing bunker doors to the underground bunkers that we paid for with our tax dollars.
Clayton in Galena Park, Texas, Art.
Could Planet X be what the Catholic Church is keeping from us?
Well, they do have an observatory.
You know, they plowed through some environmental regulations to get one down in Arizona.
They're in a hurry to look for something or another.
You know, if you were down to three months, you can see it now with the naked eye.
It's getting closer every day.
The press has broken the story.
What would you do?
unidentified
It's interesting.
I continued to live in Albuquerque because of the proximity to the Mozana Mountains because I made up my mind when I was in the military, I did not want to survive a nuclear war or my family either.
Well, I was just actually reading a new article about the solar system that has Earth-like qualities, and yet I also think about the possibility of the Planet X. You really got to wonder, sir, since if you look at the pictures of Hubble and you look at the universe itself, for us not to even have a planet not come by recently is an amazing thing.
And for the possibility of something like that to happen, you say, well, what would we do in the last three months?
Rape, pillage, plunder.
I imagine there's a large section of people that would do that.
I think the dark side of the moon would actually come out on a lot of people.
But one thing I've always said: maybe it would take a blip in the sky, something coming at us to perhaps unify us, but yet in one way we might unify in one good way or we might just unify in total pandemonium.
You know, about some things today, you got to chuckle a little bit.
I mean, the condition of the world right now is so bad, so upside down, so messed up, that you have to have a little bit of a sort of a black sense of humor about it all.
That's what makes this such a good topic, I think, tonight.
East of the Rockies, you are on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Hi, Art.
I love that one about them waving out the bunker doors.
Anyway, okay, before I answer your question, I have to tell you about somebody becoming invisible.
I've been trying to reach you since that show that you had.
There was a written account.
It's 2,000 years old.
During the ministry of Christ, he ministered for three and a half years before being crucified.
A couple of times, he made the Sadducees and Pharisees really angry.
One time they wanted to stone him, and another time they were going to throw him off a cliff, and he made himself invisible and walked through their midst.
When you guys were talking about it, I was like, ah, people in stressful situations, for example, at war, have been known to claim that they absolutely made themselves invisible.
The enemy, shooting everything in sight, walked right past them in plain sight, and they weren't seen.
And it may be, thank you, it may be that the human brain, under certain extreme conditions, is capable of almost anything, including invisibility.
In other words, you could be in such an adrenaline-driven state that if some sort of paranormal something were possible, that would be the moment.
You could sure do it.
You would be pouring every ounce of your adrenaline-driven brain into thinking yourself not to be seen, and you never know.
First of all, when Nancy was speaking on Tuesday night, she mentioned the huge earthquakes that are predicted on the New Madrid Fault and the one in New York.
Well, of course, Nancy Leader is giving a timeframe for Planet X of 2003.
unidentified
Well, I know they, and so is Mark, but I was wondering if they didn't indicate it was within the next year that those two major earthquakes were going to start?
So you'd have to think that, or else why even bother talking about it?
unidentified
Yeah.
And as far as the government, when do you think they'll tell us?
Well, I think they'll wait to the very last week, and then if the markets all collapse and the financial belly up, you know, they're not going to care at that point.
And it talks about the earth slipping on its axis and what people need to do to get inner peace and be prepared for this.
And she comments that the reason she was asking a non-Catholic to write this book and Spread the word was that the Catholic Church wouldn't put the message out, you know.
Well, I would like to head for the northernmost part of Canada that I could head to.
However, I can't eat my cats across the border without them being quarantined for six months, so I'm going to stay here and work in an underground bunker.
Well, do you honestly believe that the officials that would sit up there at the Canadian border would still be there once the announcement about Planet X was made?
I don't think so.
I think, you know, they'd be off doing whatever they were doing.
unidentified
Well, I don't want to wait till the last minute.
If I'm going to do that, I would want to do it within the next few months.
You know, if essentially the end of the world is coming and the Planet X scenario pretty much writes that out, I mean, sure, one out of ten might live.
In what, I don't know.
But one out of ten, nine out of ten are gone.
That's basically the end of the world, as we know it, anyway, right?
So do you really think most police would stay policing?
Most firemen would stay where they are, that most civil servants would stay where they are?
The guys who quarantine cats at the Canadian border, think they'd stay where they are?
And as far as the government telling us, look at all the things they've kept secret in the past until someone exposes it on them, and then they have to pass out.
Another question would be, who would be invited down?
Now, assuming that the quarters were large enough to house the entire government, even all the civil service workers, I suppose, of import, no doubt, if there was extra room, like some of the movies, there would be certain people in the population that would be chosen to go down, right?
They would be the great artists, the great scholars, the great thinkers, the great industrial giant leaders, the corporate leaders.
You know, I wonder what group they would take down with them.
Well, the great scientists and philosophers of the world, sir, would need a lot of loose women.
unidentified
Oh, that's true.
A couple things.
One, a friend of mine fastblasted you to say that what he would do is try to take Area 51 by storm, find the best-looking UFO, hotwire it, and zoom the hell out of here.
Remember, ladies and gentlemen, we're only talking about a scenario here, one that some believe is true, that there may be a planet coming that'll wipe out nine-tenths of the population on Earth called Planet X. Others call it other things, but some say it's coming.
So I thought tonight we'd have a program and talk about what if it's really true.
I mean, what from a million different perspectives.
Barry in Rome, Georgia says, Art, maybe after the government cronies go into the bunker and close the door, a major earthquake will hit and seal them in forever.
Maybe.
Olivia in Seattle says, hey, Art, maybe Planet X is the third secret of Satama.
What they did read as the third secret certainly didn't sound like it was worth keeping all that time, does it?
And Caroline, Caroline in St. Louis, Missouri says, with regard to loose women, might I remind our esteemed host, oh, thank you, that some of the world's great minds are loose women.
Well, you know, if I was in charge of the government or one of the movers and shakers, I would attempt to minimize the effect of this for as long as possible in the hopes that it really wouldn't be that bad.
And I'm going to posit something to you that I don't think anybody has come up with before in regards to.
Okay, but how would you do that, just out of curiosity?
You would minimize it, even if the amateurs were beginning to see it and all the rest of it, you would start saying what?
Well, I'd start saying what they already did, because this was done to us about three years ago, Art.
And I think what the government did at that time, there was something about that whole issue that was always very fishy to me.
Because when the clocks did turn over, I think I'm probably the only guy that experienced a problem because the chip and my cell phone didn't work properly.
So that slugger went back again.
Well, what a lot of people think when they think Y2K was a giant non-event was that, sir, there were billions and billions of dollars spent on Y2K remedial action before the event.
And so a lot of it didn't happen because they fixed it beforehand.
Right, but you know, I was a follower of your Denny and quite a few people at that time, too.
And the general consensus at that time, and I recall you going through quite in depth, too, was that regardless of the amount of money spent, it wasn't a question you could throw money at it.
There was only going to be a certain amount that could be done, and there was going to be some repercussions.
I look at it back on it now, and I say, what a tremendous exercise in control panic and trying to get people in a mind frame where, you know, we're dealing with this issue, and we want you to prepare, but limit the amount of panic that people are going to be involved in.
And I think it was very effective, if that's what it was meant to do.
And, well, maybe I'm taking a little bit to the edge of conspiracy now, but it certainly would be applicable if this was coming up.
We could get people gradually acclimated to the idea there was something coming our way, but don't worry, we can deal with it.
It's probably going to be minimal, and maybe that's what we're looking at.
Well, once you admitted it existed, that'd be some tough sell, but yeah, you'd try it, I guess.
And, you know, as far as some of the other people, one of your previous callers mentioned Fatima, well, I well recall a great program you had with the late, great Father Martin, and I believe that's what he was referencing then.
I mean, it's pretty clear what he was discussing at that point.
Well, when they did release, so-called release the Third Secret of Fatima, they said that it was an assassination attempt on the Pope, something like that.
I didn't buy it then.
I don't buy it now.
No, I don't either.
There's more to the Third Secret.
I think what they did announce was announce to stop all the speculation about the Third Secret.
Well, you know what?
I don't for one second think that they would have kept that so tight to their Catholic chests if that's all it was.
I mean, horrible as it would be to think of a Pope assassinated or even an attempted assassination or whatever, you know, popes aren't like that.
They don't think of themselves as much as they do the rest of the world.
They've released a lot of what else came out Fatima, right?
So why not this?
Why would they hold this third secret in such a dire way for so long?
And then when they do release it, it would seem like it wouldn't be worth holding as a secret.
You know, this has always been interesting to me because it just seems like I'm one of these people that believe in the natural Order of things and synergy and things happen for reasons.
Not necessarily a Planet X. Well, what do you mean you began thinking about it?
You began thinking about something that would essentially end the world or something big coming our way or what?
unidentified
Right, right.
Something that was going to change a feeling that controls the world but wouldn't destroy the world because I don't believe God would destroy the world.
It was just a continuation of a beginning still going on.
know but sir um you know granted um you know we had uh mixtures between uh fallen angels and human women and all the rest of it and so it was a mess and god said you know reset button um if you examine the world today and what's going on how upside down everything is you know if you if you're a staunch believer in in the creator then Why wouldn't he hit the button again, you know, and just keep hitting reset until he gets it right?
unidentified
Well, I think that's what could be happening, but we're still destined to continue.
Well, a lot of people would need, and in fact, a lot of people have blind hopes.
Otherwise known as faith, sort of.
Well, I mean, I think about blind hopes, I guess it would be an absolute belief in something you can't prove, right?
That would be faith.
And a lot of people would turn to their faith and be comfortable with their faith about what was happening.
And a lot wouldn't.
I mean, that's what this is really all about tonight.
What would you do if it was apparent that, you know, in three months, kaboom, nine out of ten gone.
That's what my guests say.
That's what the guy who wrote this email that I read at the beginning of the program say.
If that were really to occur, I'm very, very, very, very curious about how you would react, personally.
And what I would like is an honest response.
You know, I know it's tempting, right, to call up here and say, well, I would immediately turn to God, and I would pray every day of those three months.
And to be honest, a lot of people would do that, but there's an awful lot that wouldn't, too.
Easter the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Hi, Art.
This is Cheryl in Ewis, Texas.
Yes.
And I pray that it's not true, but if it is, I think I'd probably volunteer to be one of the loose women.
And I think if the Kokomo Hum is really the government digging underground holes, I hope they make it big enough for all of us.
The gentleman that mentioned Father Malachi, I have listened to you for a number of years and remember his conversations with you, and I hope you've kept all those tapes because I think you can look back at some of the things he said.
And when the third city of Fatima came up, it was clear that it was a deeply disturbing thing to him.
And you could almost sense that he wanted to be able to tell you and your public what it was truly about.
Do you remember when he said there was deep corruption and evil within the castle?
unidentified
Exactly.
And that was my point, Art.
I have always wondered if Father Malachi really died of natural causes.
And I hope that that was the case and that there was nothing sinister in regard to that.
But I agree with you.
The third secret that was released is a joke.
And that man was such an honest spirit, and he was so deeply touched by the fact that he could not tell us what that was, that it is something much more serious, and this may be it.
What he said was, Art, imagine the worst that your mind can conjure.
Yes.
And he said, then, it's worse than that.
unidentified
I remember that, and I hope at some point if we get down the road and find out that this is something that's true, that you'll be able to rebroadcast those, or at least parts of them.
There's a couple of points that I would like to bring up in this regard.
One thing that I would like to say, though, is that as far as the politicians are concerned that get down in those bunkers, I do believe in karmic law, and I do believe that they will be hit by an earthquake and buried alive.
Even if all the politicians got dead and buried, sealed in, as many would wish, politics would rise, raise its ugly head.
There would form groups, pretty soon sub-groups, and they would, and believe me, it would all happen again.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
I'm afraid you're right about that.
As far as the existence of Planet X, I honestly don't know if it's real or not.
I'm still debating the issue.
I mean, I have given a lot of thought and I have been doing a lot of research on it.
And one thing that sticks in my head is that I really have a problem with that 2003 date.
And one of the reasons that I have that problem is because I keep thinking back to the Mayan calendar.
And I would figure that if it's really going to happen, that would be when it would happen because I think that the Mayans had a better lock on what's happening cosmically.
But there was another thing that I was thinking, the fact that at this particular point in history, it seems very interesting that we're having this expanded worldwide human consciousness going on right now.
And getting a little metaphysical, I was wondering if a global consciousness might be the one thing that could save us.
Maybe push away Planet X, you know, a mass consciousness experiment to top them all and just push on Planet X until it finally begins to change orbit and saves Earth.
Well, there's a scenario for you.
How about that?
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You could dig down and you could put all that varied clothing in there and some food and whatever else you might think would get you through the night, like Kong says, and prepare.
That's about the only thing I can think you could do.
You could go bang on the government's doors, you know, and the side of their mountain or whatever.
Remember, folks, we're only talking about a scenario, but it is one that many people now believe, that being Planet X, coming by Earth, killing virtually nine out of ten people and decimating the Earth.
You know, twisting the Earth around.
The sky would suddenly start turning and twisting, and oh my God, it would be incredible.
Maybe all a bunch of bunk.
And I'm getting a lot of responses.
Oh, my, am I getting a lot of responses.
James in Cleveland, Ohio says, hey, Art, as most Catholics are aware, the third message, the Lady of Fatima, contained the date of the end of the world.
The Pope at the time broke down in tears as he read the message.
That's true.
I believe that.
I shouldn't say that's true.
I should say I believe that.
Certainly not what they gave out as the third secret, right?
And then Julia in Jonestown says, if there's going to be many violent earthquakes, how many nuclear power plants planet-wide do you think will melt down?
What percentage?
Well, Julie, I'm going to stick with the numbers given, and I'm going to say probably about 9 out of 10.
Oh, this is interesting.
PJ in San Antonio, Texas, brace yourself, says, Art, don't forget there'll be plenty of food around for those with iron stomachs.
Human flesh.
Yes, that's sick, I know.
But if you're hungry enough, human burger, anyone?
Well, PJ, I don't know.
I don't know.
I'd probably draw the line there.
I think I would draw the line there.
I would perish before I take a bite out of a forearm, you know.
I really just don't think I do that.
But, you know, I wasn't on the mountain either.
They were.
And they did.
Not all, but most.
Because I don't know.
It's hard to know, you know, what the human would do in conditions of that sort.
Maybe anything.
Maybe.
In today's world, you've got to almost believe that anyway, huh?
So we're talking about Planet X. Assuming you survived my program for just, say, another year or even less, even less, right?
If this is all true, then you're going to be hearing about Planet X. You're going to know that's coming.
So then what?
What would you do?
unidentified
Okay, I've read Sitchin, and I've been listening to your program for almost five years, and I feel like it's almost like a college education in physics and all this.
I think the previous caller had something right as far as the timing.
I'm not sure about the time, but I'm pretty sure that it's out there simply because I've been able to take Revelation, and I think they're wrong about 9 out of 10.
Because if you read Revelation, it says that one-third of the Earth will dry up the waters, one-third of it will be squirted.
You've got to admit, though, even a third, that would be real, serious.
I mean, there's six billion people on the planet right now, so that would mean what, two billion people would die, two billion people, even if it's just as you say.
unidentified
Correct.
What I would do, I think the whole purpose that we're here for is if you have children that you want to protect and you want to take care of them.
So I'm thinking, I know while you're out where you are, I don't want to see this happening to other people.
I want to move out of the way from it, but I want my children with me so that if we live, we live together.
If this scenario really played out, of course, now there's no way of knowing.
As this planetary body or burned-out sun or whatever the hell it might be is approached, then they would know what side of Earth would face the passage.
And I imagine scientists could make a pretty good educated guess at where the worst effects might be.
So that might be the best you'd get.
But you might go running off to the boonies only to find out that, you know, New York City came through with flying colors, and, you know, the countryside's completely decimated.
Well, I mean, what would be the difference between a cave that you would dig or a hole you dig and a cave that was natural with regard to the likelihood of it collapsing on your head?
Well, one guy had talked, and he had said that, you know, when the NCAP happens, he would take a whole bunch of his friends and things like that.
I've known for a long time that there was definitely going to be an event during the course of my lifetime that was going to kill and to me it was about three-quarters of the world, I figure.
Do you think, and there are so many people in your category who believe it, do you think that all generations have thought the world would end in their lifetimes, and they're all fooled so far?
I mean, here it is still going around.
I wonder if they've all thought that or if this is a I mean, to some degree they have, but it's out of control now.
So many people believe it, it's not even funny, and so it must mean something, huh?
unidentified
I think that we live in much more chaotic times now than we used to live in, or than people used to live in, you know, for centuries beyond.
Think of how much perspectives have changed just in the past hundred years where even just on the notions, I'm not saying that I'm for slavery or anything like that, but just even to think of slavery as a nasty, dirt, or vile thing now when for hundreds and millennia it was a commonplace.
People's perspectives are changing vastly over the years.
Do you think that if there were humans left, since you brought the subject up, that if there were humans left, say 10% or less of humanity was left on Earth after this big whoop-de-doo, do you think slavery might return?
I believe that once this event occurs, which I have for many, many years referred to as the fall, that once this does happen, that men like myself will gather people to them and they'll kind of sweep across.
And there's no one that will really be able to, in the long run, stay outside of any fraction because the people that don't want to fight will be slaughtered by people not saying that I'm not.
I believe, and I believe that there are many good people out there, but I believe that the people that are good that want to just stay and be peaceful are very, very much outnumbered by those whom...
Well, you know, I'm not.
I believe that I would bring order through chaos, if need be, but that in the end I would be saving people through.
All right, well, listen, I appreciate your honesty.
See, folks, there you've got it.
There is, you just heard, a potential warlord.
He laid it right on the table.
You know, there would be of these survivors, there would be followers and sheep, and there would be people like this last caller who would ravage across the land, and if you disagreed with him, you would be liquidated with prejudice on the spot.
There'd definitely be needs for guns, but the Bible says there'll be these demon things flying around immediately after the mountains hit through the atmosphere, you know?
Yes.
And then there'll be two prophets that you can battle with.
To the wind, the sun, and the rain You can be like day off Come on baby Don't feel the reaper Baby take my hand Don't feel the reaper Will the end of the cry Don't feel the reaper Baby I'm gonna let the end To reach our bell in the Kingdom of Nive.
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I want to remind you what we're discussing this morning is a scenario not necessarily known to be scientific fact at all, though thought to be true by certainly many.
It is the scenario of Planet X, either a burned-out sun or another planetary body that is inbound toward Earth.
Those who believe this say it's coming in 2003, and that soon we will know.
Soon the entire world will know.
And the question is, if you realized you had about, say, three months and that was it, what do you think the world would do?
I liked our dictator a little while ago, you know, the fellow to form a band, be the general sweep across the U.S. and knock over everything in his wake until he finally got his way.
It'd be hard to agree, don't you, that the government would and may be now burrowing down deep in the ground, preparing an area for, who knows, maybe a few million people even.
And so the government would certainly go down there because they dug the hole.
And then they would invite some of us, huh?
unidentified
Well, I think they'd, you know, scientists, doctors, and maybe they'd do a small lottery for average folks to get a few regular people down in there as well.
They would have to take them out with a decisive strike before the population realized that it wasn't just passed by, that it wasn't going to be a pretty light show, that it was a very serious emergency.
Yeah, I have a suggestion for a show on another open lines.
We can revisit Y2K and everybody can look at their local news and their international CNN news and find out what really happened.
Because when I read CNN on January 2nd, I find that they're reporting that there were a dozen nuclear power plants that had to shut down worldwide on Y2K night.
Look, first of all, again, to revisit that, a lot of Y2K was overhyped.
But the overhype caused them to spend billions of dollars that did remediate a whole lot of trouble that would have, no, absolutely would have occurred.
And there was a lot of unreported trouble.
But it didn't turn out to be as big a disaster as some were forecasting.
Gary North and others.
Good.
I say good.
That's great.
And by the way, those of you who have saved stuff for Y2K probably can keep it in good shape because here comes Planet X, maybe.
Or here come some people from the Middle East somewhere with bombs and dirty bombs and Captain Trips and all the rest of it.
I mean, here we are.
Either way, you look at it.
Being prepared right now sounds like a pretty good idea, doesn't it?
First thing is, I don't quite think that the government's really telling us the truth Because they're reporting that they can see a meteorite the size of a mountain out there past the Knutner belt or whatever they call it.
And they have all the information and size, density, mass, and all that trajectory.
But they can't see a dwarf star or the five kinds of the Earth.
Well, if you study the geological maps and stuff like that and the solid plates underneath the crust and everything with the less movement, less earthquakes, volcanic activities, there's a few states that have a pretty good chance they're going to suffer some, but not as worse as others.
So we're hoping that we get the luck of the draw and pick the right state.
People now know, and people are saying here, one after another, if nine out of ten people died, never would there be a more important time to have a gun.
I mean, let's think about the logic of that for a second.
Nine out of ten people just died, and there would be never an more important time to have a gun.
So you could kill those who would be left and trying to take what you had left.
So now we know there's been a 4.4 earthquake at Yucca Mountain.
It was literally zero time right there at Yucca Mountain from what I can see.
Now, isn't that like a message from God or something?
You know, look here.
You said solid geology right there at Yucca Mountain.
It's very solid, so we can store stuff for tens of thousands of years.
And boom, earthquake.
Now, it's like a message saying, rethink this.
unidentified
Well, there might be another message here.
This was very interesting, and I didn't think about this until tonight, which might have to be new to Planet X. Who knows?
That is that if the government says, well, look, you know, we realize that there's some earthquake activity here, and we really can't use this quake or the cave anymore.
So in the great words of Crescent, folks, the show is all over.
You can all go home now.
So, okay.
The press and the media excuse the cave.
So the government says, we're not going to use this.
Forget the whole thing.
Now what are you going to do with the cave?
Well, is there another reason for building a cave?
And maybe they're blowing things up up there, making new bunkers.
Remember, I told you, and I told the audience, not only is there hum in Kokomo and Taos, but there's been hum here in the valley I live in, which felt that 4.4 earthquake on the west side this morning, or yesterday morning now, suppose they at Yucca Mountain.
So, yeah, I mean, Who the hell knows what they're doing up there?
unidentified
Well, that could be the bunker they'll be waving from.
But I think if the government really wasn't going to tell us, they wouldn't be going into a bunker.
They'd be getting on one of their spacecraft that they've made, and they'd just be taking off.
So I guess you could plead your case and say, look, I can keep these survivors, even though they're out to just about eat each other up, I can keep them laughing while they're doing it, right?
It certainly is, and we're talking about the end of the world scenario known as Planet X that all kinds of people are talking about right now.
I mean, that's all it is on the lines, is Planet X. Currently, a lot of people are buying into this.
I personally have not yet bought into it.
However, you know, enough so that I'm here talking about it.
I mean, with the ABC story, with the Adama thing, with all the guests I've had talking about Planet X coming round the bend, folks.
2003, they say.
So, you know, I'm taking the opportunity to talk about what we'd all do if it really happened.
I mean, you'd have three months' solid notice at least, because the amateur astronomers would begin seeing it, and we'd have timetables.
We'd know what was going to happen.
And if it's the worst-case scenario, as they describe, then I just thought tonight we would talk about that and have a conversation about what we would do, what you think the government would do, whether it would be actually announced, withheld, how the people would act, how you would personally act.
Just sort of a general bull session about what if this really is true.
And I want to remind everybody that it's just what if, this is a big what-if.
And, of course, I would issue the secret plans for Prump on KMYE.
I would do that.
See, we'd blow the roads, you know?
We'd blow 160, we'd blow 372, we'd blow the road to the test site, and then that'd be it.
Blow three roads, boom, boom, boom.
And that's it.
You're isolated.
But, you know, in Mars attacks, you may recall Prompo's destroyed anyway.
So it'd probably hit us square on, you know, blow the roads.
Nobody can get in from California, Vegas, or points north.
But, you know, still, we'd probably be toast.
This whole area, every movie that's made, they destroy this part of Nevada or Las Vegas always.
So it's like I expect it.
Still, we'd issue.
Speaking, by the way, if you're in southern Nevada anywhere and you're a little bit of a DXer, I meant to say this.
I wanted to remind myself to say this.
See if you can hear KNYE.
You know, point an antenna toward Perump if you're in southern Nevada and try it on either 95.1 megahertz or 100.1 megahertz on any of those two frequencies.
Take your FM radio and see if you can hear anything on 95.1 megahertz.
We love to get reports or 100.1 megahertz on the FM DOS.
See if you can hear anything.
And if you can, fire me some email, artbell at mindspring.com or artbell at aol.com and tell me what you hear.
We just absolutely love getting signal reports.
Besides, then, you know, you'd be able to get the secret information when I give it out.
Directing Parumpians to salvation.
Okay, stay right where you are, and when we come back, we will continue with Planet X. Well, all right.
I just spoke with Keith Rowland, and so many people are fast blasting me.
Where's that article, that ABC article on whatever it is that's out there?
And ABC did, in fact, do an article on it.
And so Keith is going to, under What's New, in just a few seconds, go ahead and post it because I know all of a sudden there's going to be a lot of interest to read this article based on what we're talking about tonight.
So if you'll wait a few minutes and go to my website, artbell.com, under What's New, the ABC article will be right there.
And we'll leave it there for at least, you know, like 24 hours so that everybody listening tonight who wants to go and read about it will have a chance to.
But even that, certainly, even though that article certainly suggests that at the location that people are talking about with regard to Planet X, there does seem to be something, remember, that doesn't mean the rest of the scenario is going to come true.
It's just sort of a mainstream news underline to what people are presenting as a scenario they believe, firmly, obviously, is coming.
I mean, if you heard Ms. Leader the other night, she was extremely articulate.
And, you know, she made a lot of sense in a lot of ways.
And I realize a lot of people say, oh, what a bunch of BS.
And there'll be attitudes like that right up until...
I think, well, I would probably be the one person that would probably want to survive, but don't know that I would the way they say it's going to happen because we live like 40 miles off the coast of Galveston here in Houston, Texas.
So I don't know, unless I have a boat ready to float, I don't know that I would have a chance.
Well, not so much like we're talking about the end of the world.
But you do hear them talking about planets that may be out there, whether it's an asteroid, and they did notice one that was big.
But I started out there in 99, and I was just a contractor.
And since December, I've been home with my grandchildren, helping my daughter with them.
But as time goes by, you just start putting little pieces together.
Well, if it was so, if the government was going to hide it, why would people be talking about it?
But they had labeled it as a number at that time.
Nebulan or I can't remember the name, but they talked about this one planet that was way out there that they just, you know, they knew what it was, but they weren't saying it was like Planet X. They called it another name.
I think it's on the internet.
I want to say Nebulan or I can't remember the name of it, but I just try to keep an open mind about it.
And in my grandchildren, I've got one, a little girl that's four and a grandson that's three.
And it's funny that, you know how animals have a keen instinct?
There was an article on a mass they found outside, just outside where we are, our solar system.
And so, Keith, you haven't found the right article yet.
Whoever has that article, would you please email it to Keith?
We had it up, oh, gosh, several times in the past six months.
And apparently, Keith hasn't found the right one yet.
So if anybody has that particular ABC article, I'd very much appreciate it if you'd send it to Webmaster at artbell.com.
That's webmaster at artbell.com.
And it's not the article about the Earth-like possibility planet, the star system-like ours.
That's the one he's got up there right now.
There was another ABC article about something they found just outside our system, sort of lurking in the way these people are talking about Planet X. And I remember that article because we brought it back about two or three times.
Well, I did say earlier, though, that plump people would be looked at perhaps down the line as in a new very respectful way.
unidentified
But, you know, just thinking what options for those robust people who like the thought that they'd live off the land and I don't know how much that would be left.
If I survived the aftermath of Planet X, I would create tear malevolence on anyone else who survived except for woman and repopulate the world with myself.
So, yeah, so, I mean, really, what I'm getting this morning is that mass death, if it occurred, you know, with Planet X or whatever else, would bring on more killing.
Under What's New, Be My Guest from 1999, the BBC, A Planet Beyond Pluto.
Read that article.
And the one below that from 1999, ABC News, A 10th Planet.
Question mark.
So if you want a little mainstream injection of fear with regard to this possibility, and that's all it is, is a possibility, then you might want to read these articles.
They're up there now under What's New.
Knew he'd get the right ones up there.
He did.
And I've already had about 2,000 emails since the program began about all this.
Yikes.
There is an intense, incredible interest in this whole Planet X scenario.
Maybe too much interest.
Maybe way too much interest.
I'm starting to think about this myself.
I just downloaded.
I had about 2,000 emails.
That sounds an awful lot to me now.
God, I wonder if it's because, I mean, this is a totally disproportionate response to the program I'm doing right now, totally disproportionate.
And the only reason that I would imagine that might be so is because a lot of people feel it somewhere.
You actually feel it.
All right, once again, for those of you who want to read some mainstream stuff about this, I mean, it does all piece together in a somewhat worrisome way.
We've got it on the website right now, artbell.com under What's New, two important articles from the year 1999, the BBC's A Planet Beyond Pluto, and from ABC, an article entitled A Tenth Planet.
Question mark.
Be my guest.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
Hey, this is Charlie, a truck driver from Reno, Nevada.
I know Pat Pong, and I know, of course I know Bangkok, and I know the whole country, really.
unidentified
And the world, and that's why in this lifetime, your round table is more like a spherical, a global table with hundreds of thousands of nights of global table.
Yeah, we're talking about, okay, we're talking about Planet X. That's this sun or planet or whatever it is that a lot of people are now starting to say is going to sweep by in the year 2003, tilt the Earth on its axis, and more or less kill nine out of ten people.
unidentified
By the way, it fell some of the predictions that a lot of your guests have been making.
Yeah, I signed up for that streaming video, so I heard like the very beginning, but then I couldn't call for a couple hours.
Somehow I can picture you out in the middle of the Pacific, you know, with a wild, starry night and this big glowing object bearing down on your catamaran.
unidentified
Hey, and if all the tidal waves flood everywhere, then hey, at least I'm on top of water.
Yeah, well, I mean, some people believe that, whether they believe the biblical one-third, one-third, one-third, or they believe Planet X or whatever it is, maybe it's metaphoric for Planet X or Planet X is metaphoric for that.
Who knows?
Either way, a lot of people do believe, as you do, that nine out of ten gone, hey, better world.
unidentified
I mean, I grew up as a Southern Baptist missionary kid, and after seeing my second UFO at the age of 11, I felt no connection to the religion whatsoever.
Okay, and judging by the reports everybody, or the analysis everybody was saying before about it tilting the Earth on its axis or off its axis, if a force was strong enough to do that, it'd probably push us way out into outer space, give us a free voyage around the outer limits of the universe.
And with that in mind, I would probably hop in my brother 79 Caprice, make a B-line to your place, get your autograph, and then run over to England, get a hold of John Landis and some quick funding, make a movie with Neil Diamond and Jackson Brown so we could have one last laugh before we all went.
And then possibly get Alexander Paul and Euthanasia back together.
To back up that statement, we have a, I'm calling you from San Diego.
We have a college here, San Diego State University.
And several years ago, when my sister was a student there, there was a serial rapist loose on the campus, and he managed to rape, if memory serves, 18 co-eds.
And after they apprehended this animal, one of the psychology professors at the college gave his class an assignment, and the assignment was to survey several thousand male students of varying ages, and they were asked one question.
If you were certain you wouldn't have to go to jail, would you commit rape?
And approximately 90% of them said yes.
Many of them even offered up, I've already got the girl picked out.
So it seems like one truth that's coming out of tonight seems to be, even despite the nice attitude of that one girl, that if nine-tenths of the people were to die in a tragedy of that sort, the tenth left would mostly kill each other.
Now, what does that say about us?
unidentified
Oh, it kind of brings to mind that scene from Terminator 2 where the kids are playing with guns and they're pow-pow pow, and the young star, the young John Connor says, we're not going to make it, are we?
Do you think that planets and heavenly bodies might move in the universe like birds in the sky?
The birds are filled with peace, and they don't bent into each other.
But if the planets are drawn to another planet, or heavenly bodies are drawn to another planet like a magnet, to planets or heavenly bodies that have a negative electrical charge because, for example, of the human beings on this planet that are filled with negativity, draw like a magnet.
But there's another thing about birds, you know, occasionally when they go over, they poop on you.
unidentified
Yes, but that doesn't destroy you.
We can clean that up.
What about cars, too?
They speed along on the freeway, and most of the time we miss each other.
But when we don't, I don't believe there are any accidents, that we are like a magnet drawn to each other because of our thoughts and minds on other things that are stressing us out, and then we pull to something and collide.
In other words, I've got a pool table in my living room.
Actually, it's a real cool pool table.
It's the old kind where you've got to put a quarter in and the balls roll down.
Really a nice piece.
And Ramona and I like shoot pool.
And if you take some balls and you put them on the table, then if you can imagine the cue ball blasting in and missing some and hitting others and scattering a few to the wind, then it's probably kind of like that.
That's probably a pretty good analogy.
It's kind of like sending that cue ball in, you know?
And I am looking at these ABC and BBC articles and saying, gee whiz, you know, what a coincidence, huh?
unidentified
Well, I've been online looking at them, and the thing I was wondering is, for example, if we send a satellite to, let's say, Mars, okay, it takes about six months.
Now, we've got to see this planet's coming from outside the solar system.
And comparing that satellite going to Mars, that takes six months.
Well, that would be about the speed that would escape Earth orbit.
Who knows what speed it would be going at?
unidentified
Okay, so that's what I was looking at, you know, because if it takes that long to get to Mars, and this is outside of the solar system, like, have they actually found this planet already?
And like the lady that called and said so many negative things are going out from the planet, many times you, well, not many times, but you've done these experiments and you've had Evelyn Paglini on and everything.
Anyway, I've been wanting to get a hold of you because I think there is something very positive that can be done, and it can stop raping and pillaging and the whole bit.
And back in, I believe it was 1987, under President Reagan, the whole country got together one day and held hands.
And I was in en route to or from Dallas, Texas, and it happened at that hour, and everybody got together.
And holding hands with strangers, it was a magnificent thing.
I mean, it's part of this collective consciousness thing we're working on.
unidentified
Right, and the phrases that I would like us to do this, and you, with 23 million listeners, to hold hands to convert hatred to love and greed to generosity.
But before this would come, I would like to be able to do this now, start this across the country.
And it gave, I can't tell you the feeling I had.
It was magnificent.
Strangers, you know, in a strange state.
Anyway, if the planet were coming down on us, like this young girl said she'd go out and try to get people to change, well, I would be writing letters.
I would be calling TV stations, radio stations to get people to get together and hold hands and pray because the only one who can stop this is the Creator.
If you look at it from space, it is an oasis indeed to our eyes.
Now, it may be that if you're a Martian, Earth looks like trouble.
I mean, if you're a Martian and you breathe the thin, nearly non-existent atmosphere of Mars and crawl around up there somehow, eking out a subsistence, possibly throwing ice, I don't know, and you look at Earth, it may not look good at all.
From our perspective, we are a blue, green oasis in space of life.
And I'd like to ask if you could to keep those articles on your website for a while so that when I finally get off the road and get home, I can look at them.
Oh, well, first of all, if this planet actually comes through, apparently it already has been through this system before, and people are still on the planet.
But really, the planet, it obviously isn't bigger than Jupiter, and any planet coming through our solar system would be captured by the sun and become part of our solar system.
Okay, well, then having listened to the majority of the program, how can you be so hopeful?
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Well, I've been studying all this stuff for about 40 years.
I'm somewhat of a person that has vision and perspective.
And I believe that certain things have to prevail and certain things have to come up.
And there's too much on the chalkboard yet, and the whole thing's not going to be over with Planet X. In fact, Planet X could be a diversion for Dog and Magog heading towards Israel.
In fact, if you will look at my website and read what Stephen Greer has written, Planet X could even be in that category.
It really could.
I really suggest you go to my website and read what Stephen Greer has written in light of everything going around now about Planet X. It's called Cosmic Deception, Let the Citizen Beware.
And that certainly is yet another way of looking at either an alien invasion or the Planet X scenario.
Back in the early 80s when I was a kid, maybe late 70s, there was a TV show called Sundar the Barbarian, and at the beginning of the show, the whole premise was that a runaway planet came between the Earth and the moon and caused the Earth to go through all these changes, and the moon broke apart into a million pieces.