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Something welcome to Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from May 24th, 2002.
art bell
From the high desert in the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening, good afternoon, good morning, whatever it may be, wherever you are, because we're everywhere.
This is Coast to Coast AM, and I'm Art Bell, and tonight is Open Lines all the way through.
Now, I did solicit ideas from all of you out there about what tonight might be.
And we've got about three winners, in my estimation.
I really like this idea.
I've never done this before.
But Marianne Ludwig of Haldale, California writes, Kmart, I've got an idea for a topic tonight.
How about verifiable predictions for the next six weeks?
She says to 90 days.
I'm thinking she's so right, but let's hold it to six weeks.
Predictions the next six weeks.
Far enough in the future to bring little anticipation, but soon enough to get some satisfaction.
And certainly some attention.
Here's my prediction.
Within three weeks, there'll be a major terror attack on a U.S. military installation in Germany in retaliation for the speech that Bush made there yesterday.
That's a lot of retaliation.
It'll involve, she says, a truck, nuclear waste materials.
It'll not be successful as the terrorists intend it to be, but some damage will be done.
Germans will then realize that Bush was right and will reluctantly rally to fight terrorists within the U.S. Also, she says, did you hear about the man who found a huge footprint in a granite rock near Ramona, California?
He was hunting for gold and found the footprint instead.
Local Los Angeles News ran a very short piece on it, but there was a shot of the man putting his foot inside the footprint, and it dwarfed his bare foot.
I haven't heard or seen anything about it since.
unidentified
Hmm.
art bell
Giants.
Anyway, I thought her idea was stellar.
So, number one, we will take predictions for something you think will occur in the next six weeks.
And I will record your prediction and assign it a number.
Now, I don't know how you reach into your inner self.
You know more about that than I do.
To try and discern something in the very near term.
Six weeks, that's not very much time, is it?
So we'll have a chance to see how the audience does in a real short-term blast of predictions.
And I thought that would be absolutely fascinating.
Right on, Marianne.
Then number two.
This comes from S.G. Lee, who would simply like an open line session on encounters with monsters.
Now, I'm all for it.
So if you have ever actually, I don't want to hear about your friend's encounter or your mom's encounter or your dad's encounter.
I want first person monster encounter stories.
All right, first person.
If it happened to you.
If it happened to you, some friends, even better.
But if it happened to you, I want a first-person story if you have ever encountered what you would call a monster.
And now I've got one more.
This is kind of interesting, I think.
Let's see, it's Odia?
O-D-I-Y-Y-A.
I'm not sure how you'd pronounce that.
It says, hello, Art.
I think that perhaps you ought to have a special line, open line, for people who have had sexual encounters with demons, spirits, or aliens.
A few years ago when I was in college, I remember being awakened by a feeling of having someone lying down next to me.
At first, nothing but terror, and I hesitated to look over my shoulder.
However, after a few minutes, I decided to confront the being or whatever it was next to me in my bed.
Oh, my God.
When I turned, I saw nothing there.
Yet there was a depression on the bed where the body should have been.
At this point, I felt a hand gently touch and caress my face, and I froze in absolute panic, couldn't move.
I tried to run and scream, but I could do neither.
It was then that some kind of force pushed me down on my bed and proceeded to remove my underwear and have sex with me.
Technically, this was rape.
Although I never saw it as such until recently, I don't feel I was raped.
I don't really know what to think of the experience.
I'd be interested in knowing how many other people have had similar experiences.
And for the record, I never use drugs, alcohol, nor any mind-altering substances.
I'm a highly reliable and trustworthy person now.
I think that I would like to ask, I understand this is way out on a limb.
However, I think it's a reasonable question to ask, in fact, a very reasonable question to ask for two reasons.
Number one, anybody involved in law enforcement will quickly tell you that the number of sexual assaults, rapes, you know, in the real world that are reported are very, very low.
Women, for some reason, well, obviously, the obvious reason, embarrassment and shame and all those things, they don't report sexual assaults.
That's number one.
I mean, they just don't.
Only a tiny percentage get reported.
But then there's even a more compelling reason, in my estimation.
If you talk to anybody who is a researcher into abductions, they will tell you that of those cases that they have reviewed, a very high percentage involve sexual misconduct on the part of the intruder.
So it's kind of a double whammy.
Number one, even in the real world, they don't get reported.
And certainly in the world of abductions, the odds that somebody would report something like this pretty remote, I would say, wouldn't you?
And so I thought, you know, it's a very edgy kind of question to ask this audience, but I thought I would anyway.
I wonder how many women out there have had sexual experiences with the unknown.
A demon, a force, an alien.
Who knows?
Really, in the end, we assign names to these things, aliens or demons or spirits or ghosts.
We assign names and words to these entities, right, based probably on our own perceptions, unless we have some little green guy who points to a particular star and says, that's where I'm from.
Otherwise, an encounter of this sort really can only be told.
You're not necessarily going to know who your assailant was.
But I thought I would ask the question, see if anybody bravely would like to step forward and talk about that.
I know it's a high percentage item on the list of things that occur to people in abductions and these kinds of encounters.
It's just that people don't talk about it.
Well, we will hear.
All right, this is interesting.
We had a power situation earlier today at the house, so let me get my thunder in order here, and then we'll look around the world a little bit, and then we'll review what we're going to talk about in Open Lines one more quick time, and then we'll do it.
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you you You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from May 24, 2002.
Coast to Coast AM A quick look around at the world's news.
art bell
It's Memorial Day weekend, and so they're saying it's going to be the biggest travel weekend of the entire year, which is interesting.
They're also saying people are going to be traveling in cars and RVs and trucks and vehicles.
And they're not going to be flying.
One effect of 9-11 that remains with us in May for some time is that people are doing a lot less recreational flying.
Now, certainly business flying and needful flying.
You know, if you have to go to a wedding or a funeral or something, it's on the other side of the country.
unidentified
No choice.
art bell
You've got to fly, right?
But I think there is a dividing line there, and short of people who must fly for some compelling personal reason and business people that must fly, recreational flying, you know, just let's get on a plane and go down to Mazitlan or something like that.
That kind of flying, there's not a lot of it going on.
And of course, airlines are suffering because of that, and that's all because of 9-11 and all the new security.
And that's not really going to, I don't see how that's going to change.
I just don't see.
Do you?
Oh my, what's going on with the FBI?
An FBI whistleblower alleges FBI headquarters rewrote Minnesota agents' pre-September 11 request for surveillance and search warrants for terrorism defendant Zacharias Missouri and removed important information before rejecting them.
Agent Colleen Rowley wrote that the Minnesota agents became so frustrated by roadblocks erected by terrorism supervisors in Washington that they began to joke that FBI headquarters was becoming an unwitting accomplice to Osama bin Laden's efforts to attack the U.S. Oh my God.
That is real heat.
That's real heat.
We're going to have to watch that story very carefully.
The Justice Department said Friday, it's going to fight a judge's ruling that banned the department from interfering in any way with an Oregon law that allows doctors to help terminally ill people kill themselves.
So this one's going to stay in court.
President Bush with Pulton, and they're having nuclear discussions, and it looks like they've cut a deal, and that's a good thing.
We can certainly afford fewer nukes.
No question about that.
Many fewer nukes.
So anything they can do there is really good.
Now, potentially reaching out to spoil the agreement, before the ink gets dry, is the fact that Russia continues to deal nuclear stuff to Iran.
And, you know, we've said to them, keep selling it to Iran, pretty dumb.
You're going to see some of what you have been selling to them aimed at you.
There are ongoing discussions about what's going to happen if the U.S. is attacked again by some weapon of mass terror, you know, biological, chemical, nuclear, whatever.
I'm sure there's some very quiet conversations going on between the two, and I'll bet you President Bush is telling Putin: look, you and your country had better be prepared for the possibility of the use of tactical nuclear weapons.
And we had better come to some sort of understanding that it doesn't turn into World War III if this should occur.
And I bet a large amount of money that conversation is going on.
Well, now here's one for you.
This morning on Paul Harvey, May 24th broadcast, Paul Harvey was, I think, the first to report a story now flashing around the world.
Apparently, Scotland Yard was truly confounded this morning.
Outside the Paradise Bar in South London, a bouncer was found stabbed to death lying in a pool of blood.
Scotland Yard swabbed the blood and extracted DNA from it, and the DNA was not human.
Maybe the blood is animal blood, which is the, you know, it's what they're going to look at right now.
I guess they're going to have to send it off.
The Yard's lab is not equipped to analyze such thing.
blood samples are being sent to the veterinary genetics lab at the University of California.
But what...
A bouncer, probably a big guy, is lying dead in a pool, stabbed to death in a pool of his own blood, but the blood is not human.
So I wonder what we're facing there.
And then somebody writes Art as serial killer was involved in Levy's death, Chandra Levy, and one of his victims was, in fact, found in the Potomac River.
It was on extra TV tonight.
I don't know about that.
Now, the prediction was specifically to Chandra Levy's body, right?
However, I would not say that Ed Dames has missed anything yet because even the police chief of Washington, D.C. was dumbfounded that they had not found the body earlier.
And he said, look, one of the reasons is because it might not have been there.
So I'd still keep this in a really open box.
And then I got so many of these art.
Crazy, even for here.
It's noon today and snowing in Denver.
30 degrees.
Somebody else in Colorado says, burning.
Art, we agree.
The sun feels different.
Now, this was from last night.
I've always spent a lot of time in the sun.
I have dark skin and tan darkly.
I've never had much problem with sunburns.
We live in Colorado and the atmosphere is thin, of course.
But the other day, I was running my dog, and I tell you, the sun felt like it was searing my skin.
I know it's not my imagination.
I also constantly have this feeling that things are becoming sterile.
I don't know how to explain it.
My customers have often said the sun just feels more intense.
Or this.
Art, I thought I was losing my mind or succumbing to paranoia until I heard you last night talking about the strangeness of the sun.
For about a year, I've had the feeling that the sun, even here in the middle of Manhattan, feels odd, too big, too white, too hot, and frankly, in the wrong place.
I don't know any other way to describe it.
Even sunglasses do not offer enough protection on many days now.
I found myself shielding my eyes, crossing the street to get into the shade.
The sun literally seems to be too low in the sky.
There are days when one can hardly see if one is walking into the sun, so to speak.
Fascinated and just a little bit disturbed.
And then this art, I'm a painter of watercolors.
The light and the quality of the light are what I notice.
It's what painters key into light, shadow.
I too have noticed the sun is more white and less yellow.
The light striking the skin is more penetrating.
Sometimes it feels just like needles.
I've also noticed the sun penetrates and heats up my mattress, even though the outside ambient temperature is not that high.
I've been wondering for a while what's going on, and I just can't help remembering what Ed Dames said about the sun.
And I thought right on and on and on and on.
It just goes, here's another one.
I'm a photographer and extremely aware of light variations.
Thank you for bringing up the changing light of the sun and for all the good work you do.
You're very welcome.
So a landslide of emails, people agreeing that the nature, the color, the feel, the intensity of the sun is changing.
All right.
We'll break here at the bottom of the hour and I'll briefly touch on what we're going to talk about tonight.
If you wish.
unidentified
I know you can see the love.
art bell
Then we'll rock.
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The trip back in time continues.
With Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM.
More somewhere in time coming up.
For miles and miles and miles and miles and miles.
Oh yeah.
If you think that I don't know about the little tricks you play.
I'll never see you when you live with me, but you're in the right way.
Oh yeah.
Well, here's a poke at you.
You're gonna choke on it too.
You're gonna lose that smile because of...
Well,
Once upon a time, once when you were live, I remember those nights you reflected in your eyes.
I wonder where you are.
I wonder if you think about me.
What's the thought of time in your wildest dreams?
Once the world was new, our bodies felt the morning dew.
That brings the brand new day.
We couldn't tear ourselves away.
I wonder if you can.
I wonder if you still remember.
Once upon a time in your wildest dreams.
You're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
Tonight, featuring Coast to Coast AM from May 24th, 2002.
art bell
To remind you, going into tonight, and you can use any line.
I don't have any special line set up for all of this, so you can roaring in on any line you want.
It's open lines, but we have three suggestions with regard to what might be discussed tonight.
One would be a monster encounter discussion.
Any of you have had encounters with what you would call a monster.
Well, that was a pretty good one, actually.
And then this is awfully good, and that's anybody who wants to really stick their psychic neck out and will take a prediction for you and number it, and it'll be for the next six weeks.
Something major you think is going to occur in the world in the next six weeks.
And then the real touchy one.
Pardon the unintended fun, but sexual encounters with demons or with entities.
I don't know.
Aliens, demons.
There's so many names, ghosts, whatever names we assign to these things that seem to be.
Many, many sexual encounters.
Anybody wanting to step forward?
Anonymously, of course, on this program.
So that's what we're about this night.
unidentified
We're about to go.
Welcome to Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from May 24, 2002.
Music All right, into the unknown of the night we plunge.
art bell
Now, with regard to the predictions for the next six weeks, I think some misunderstood.
This is not just a, if you want to make it a prediction about terrorism, fine, but I was not asking specifically for that.
I want to be clear.
If you want to stick your psychic neck out and make a prediction about any large event that's going to occur, you know, until yes is on everybody's mind, right?
But it doesn't have to be about that specifically at all.
Any big event as something you think will come true in the next six weeks, then I'll record it and we'll find out short term how good y'all are.
Now, don't just throw something into the wind.
In other words, if you have a strong psychic sense that this event is going to occur, then pick up the telephone line.
Don't just call to hear your voice on the air.
We really want to get some predictions down that have a really good chance of coming true.
And the best way to do that is to ask you not to be frivolous, you know, not to frivolously make any prediction, but to think it through and to somehow, with some sort of knowing, that's what it's all about, right, recite your prediction.
So there you are.
With that in mind, here's where we begin.
First time caller line, you are on the air.
unidentified
Good morning, Ark.
art bell
Good morning, sir.
unidentified
Hi.
Geez, what a night.
Anyway, I was going to tell you that this is Bob from LA, but here in Ceno, you remember the vice president was stating that we, first of all, when we started out back, everybody was screaming at Bush, stating that he dropped the ball.
So now they're telling us everything.
And what the Vice President stated is that we may have some attacks on America, and here and there.
And he said, apartment building's blowing up.
Well, right after he said that, today here we're in my neighborhood here in the Atlanta Valley, and one blew up.
art bell
A gigantic explosion.
And they're suggesting that it perhaps was a natural gas explosion.
That's like saying, sir, that when something falls from our atmosphere, it is a meteorite.
They don't have the slightest damn idea at this point.
unidentified
I have a ham radio.
I'm a ham radar operator, and I listen to all their frequencies.
I listen to the fire department, okay?
And what's sort of funny is James Hahn was there, okay?
Our mayor.
What's he doing at a fire?
And it's funny.
He's telling the media, oh, it's a gas leak, and then they're talking to the fire chief, and they're going, we don't know what it is.
How does he know it's a fire leak?
They don't know it is.
And the FBI is there, and they're telling, oh, the FBI is there.
art bell
They don't know yet.
They don't know.
And it could be terrorism.
Who the hell knows at this point?
unidentified
Right.
You know what's happening right now is that it's really crazy.
I've been watching, it may sound odd, but I know where a few people from the Palestinian nation are, where they hang out here in a valley.
I've been watching these people and following them really close, staying next to him.
And what he said about all these terrorist attacks, like people blowing up malls and stuff like that, it's giving these people ideas.
And I think somebody, these people, I've watched a few of them, and it may sound crazy.
These people, I've been hired by private investigative agencies for work in Scop work and stuff.
So I'm really good at being invisible on your shows where.
And I stand right behind these people.
I follow them around to libraries or wherever they go.
And one person, I'm really scared that maybe you're going to do something.
It's a female.
art bell
Well, if you really believe that, then you need to go to the FBI right away.
unidentified
Yeah, but you know what?
It's really crazy.
These people, the ones that I've been watching, they're not crazy.
They're actually depressed.
I've seen some of these people actually talking, and they're like crying.
I don't know what's wrong with these people.
art bell
There's something missing out of this puzzle Listen, what it is, is that if you were a Palestinian, if you were of Arab extraction in America right now, you wouldn't be having much of an easy time of it, would you?
I mean, you really wouldn't have an easy time of it at all.
You'd be watched.
People would stare at you.
Everybody would be uneasy around you.
And you've really, everybody has got to remember that most of the people of these various of Arab extraction specifically are fine people and do not wish us dead.
You've got to delineate between the average population of the Arab world and the fanatics.
And I'm not suggesting they are few in number.
There are many fanatics who want us dead, D-E-A-D dead.
And so to delineate between the two is impossible for some people.
And so a lot of very innocent people are suffering here in America.
So if you're wondering what's wrong with them, you don't have to wonder very long.
That's it.
Wildcard Line, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Hi, Zemi.
art bell
That would be you.
unidentified
Yay, this is so cool.
I've been listening to you forever.
I have a monster story.
art bell
Oh, you do?
Where are you?
unidentified
Yeah.
I'm actually at a rest stop in Arkansas.
My husband and I drive truck, and I'm the night driver.
art bell
That must be kind of cool.
unidentified
Two of you getting together.
I love it.
art bell
Yeah, that's kind of neat.
Anyway, go ahead.
unidentified
Yeah, so I'm sitting under the moon right here, which I'm thinking just like the same night that I'm talking about.
This is about nine years ago, California.
I like to walk around in the woods a lot by myself, and I was playing a little flute, and I was singing along, and I'm out there for a couple hours the night.
I exercise.
And I sat on a ridge, and it's kind of a horseshoe ridge.
I'm on the highest part of the ridge.
And across the ridge, I'm just sitting there looking.
Well, I'm sorry, back up just slightly.
I look about halfway around this horseshoe, and there's someone coming up over the ridge.
So I'm thinking, oh, it's somebody that I know.
art bell
You saw them, or you heard them, or what?
unidentified
I see a flashlight coming up over the ridge.
So I think this must be someone I know.
So I'm getting up from where I'm sitting, and something in me told me, flatten.
So I sat back down on the ground as fast as I could, and I looked across the ridge.
art bell
That's a really ancient sense that we have.
Something tells you you're being stalked.
The word is stalked.
And you know it, and the hair on the back of your neck stands up, and you know it's time to hit the dirt right on.
unidentified
Yeah, all my instincts are going.
Uh-oh!
So I'm looking across the ridge.
Now, this is past the person who's walking up over the ridge.
This is on the opposite side of the horseshoe.
I look over into the trees, and it's a bunch of California scrub oak, and those are really reflective on the moonlight.
And I'm sitting kind of above them.
And I see this shadow, darkness, come up out of the trees.
And it's such a soft movement that I'm not even thinking anything.
I'm just watching this.
And what I'm seeing is wings.
And this thing must have been easily 10 feet tall.
It was huge.
The wings were almost as long as its body was on this thing.
art bell
Sounds like Mothman.
unidentified
Well, yeah.
First I thought it was a demon.
And then I heard you guys talking about shadow people, so I thought it was that in them.
art bell
Well, have you, excuse me, have you seen the photograph on my website?
unidentified
No.
art bell
Okay, it's a 9-11 photograph.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
And it shows this, it's a pterodactile that is near a building, and it's absolutely monstrous.
It occurs.
It was photographed during the 9-11 event, and it looks exactly like what you're talking about.
unidentified
Oh, so creepy.
So I'm watching this thing, and it goes, the movement is so soft.
It's not using its wings to fly.
It's almost like they're being used to direct it.
And it slowly lifts up in the air, like I said, comes back down, and it does this twice before it gets to the person.
Again, this person is about halfway between me and this thing.
And as it lands next to the person, the person with the flashlight who has been aiming its beam on the ground, the beam of the flashlight, suddenly the flashlight comes up and this person is whipping around.
Like its flashlight is trying to find whatever it thinks is, I mean, I'm speculating this person is feeling this thing because this thing does like eight little, again, touches the ground, lifts up, goes in a circle around this person.
I'm watching it tease this person, and this person is whirling in a circle, trying to see whatever it is.
art bell
So you're watching an attack.
unidentified
Kind of.
art bell
It didn't do anything to the person except maybe it was waiting for them to fall down dead of fright, you know?
unidentified
Uh-huh.
And I'm watching it, and this person suddenly throws the flashlight and just runs down the back of a hill.
I mean, they were so scared that they even threw the flashlight and just ran down this hill.
Well, I'm thinking, okay, and it slowly lifts off the ground as the person leaves, and it's aiming towards me.
art bell
Oh, my God.
unidentified
All I can think is I shut my eyes, and I just kept saying, I am a blade of grass, I am invisible, I am a blade of grass, I am invisible.
And it made about the first touchdown about halfway to me.
And I'm squeaking my eyes open every once in a while.
And I just started thinking of the music that I had been playing earlier.
I was having a really good time and just thinking positive thoughts.
I am invisible, I am a blade of grass, everything's happy.
And it turned about halfway, it was in the air, and it just kind of floated back to where it originally started.
art bell
Lucky girl.
unidentified
And I just ran down the hill as fast as the other guy did.
art bell
That sounds like Mothman.
It sounds like Mothman.
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
We'll let the audience digest this one and see what they think.
But it sounds to me like you're lucky to be alive.
unidentified
I was wondering, after I heard the Mothman show, the one thing I was really glad of, at first I thought after it happened and it was all done, I thought, oh, the energy coming off of it was so sad.
It was so old.
It was so, God, it was like if you met somebody like feeling those things, you would go over and put an arm around them.
But then I heard your show on The Mothman and the Red Eyes and how people get paralyzed.
art bell
That's right.
unidentified
And after I heard that show, I was so glad that I just shut my eyes and did not wait for it to come to me.
art bell
Yeah, there's actually two things that occur.
Thank you for the call.
unidentified
Oh, thank you.
art bell
The first is there is a mortal moment.
And hunters will tell you, because they know, there's an instant or sometimes more than an instant that we share this with animals to some degree now.
In human beings, it's largely blotted out by contemporary environment and experience and all the rest of it, but it is not gone.
It's in us as much as it's in animals.
The animals just pay attention to it.
We don't.
There's this mortal moment when you know, even though you may not know what it is that's about, a predator is after you and you can feel it.
And it may occur an instant before death or a minute before death.
Animals know it when a hunter's got a bead on them.
They just know it for an instant before that bullet goes.
Animals that are being stalked by others suddenly know it frequently too late.
But there is that mortal instant.
And that's certainly what she experienced when it was hit the dirt time.
And then, of course, she perhaps saved her own life by thinking as she did and virtually making herself invisible.
What a program last night, huh?
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
Yes, hi.
My name's Mark, and I'm calling from Bradley, Illinois, and I'm listening to you through 8.90 a.m., WLS in Chicago.
art bell
Ah, the big monster in Chicago.
unidentified
Yeah.
You may not remember it, but I talked to you back on Halloween.
art bell
Really?
unidentified
Yeah, Halloween one.
art bell
It must have been a ghost-to-ghost show.
unidentified
Yeah, it was the story about the place up in Michigan, and it was the first full moon that we had on Halloween in 55 years.
art bell
Yes, yes.
unidentified
Yeah, you might remember it.
Anyway, I wanted to express my deepest concerns about the prediction that Sean David Morton made on the April 11th and April 12th show.
And that would be the he predicted that a red mercury bomb device would be used.
And I just pray to God that that does not happen.
art bell
Yeah, those are good things to pray for.
unidentified
Right.
I also just wanted to predict maybe the Lakers will win it in the seven games.
I don't know.
But I wanted to ask you one really quick question.
art bell
I'm putting Lakers in seven.
unidentified
Seven games, they'll win the seventh game by four points.
I don't know.
But I wanted to ask one really quick question.
Are you accepting what they call snail mail still?
I wanted to send you some music that reminds me of some of the really good music of the 60s.
art bell
No, not yet, sir.
You know, I tell you what.
We're trying to figure out what to do, and we may route it through our Oregon office.
But the more I think about that, the more I don't want to subject them to the same danger that I'm trying to avoid myself.
So we just don't have it worked out yet.
All I can say is we live in damn dangerous times, and we don't have it figured out yet.
I'm sorry.
Okay?
Thank you very much.
Sorry, I wish I could give you some address.
There will come a time, I hope, and I pray, oh God, I hope so.
But you have to understand that as a national talk show host, people in the media are natural targets.
I mean, that's already been proven.
And somehow I don't think we're done with this.
Like, I kind of thought we were done with it, and then they hit the IMF and the World Bank building.
And I don't know.
I can smell something out there that's going to happen.
I don't know what, but I can smell it.
And so we're hesitant, obviously, to accept that kind of mail.
Moreover, my wife, Ramona, was the one who opened mail for me and then would sort of bring to my attention, you know, some sort of screening process, bring to my attention what seemed important.
And so I'm not about to risk her life, certainly.
And now that I think about it, yeah, I could give the Oregon address, and then they would be exposed to that danger, too.
So not for the moment, and we haven't got it figured out yet.
West for the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello?
unidentified
Am I?
art bell
You're on.
unidentified
Okay.
I'm Matt, calling from Aubury, California.
Okay.
You're Fresno.
You're on KMJ and Fresno.
art bell
Indeed, we are.
unidentified
Okay, I want to make a quick prediction though.
I want to ask you a question.
Sarah Fisher will win the Indy 500.
art bell
Sarah Fisher?
unidentified
She's qualified row three, the ninth position.
art bell
Okay, wins Indy.
Got it.
You're number two, by the way.
unidentified
Okay.
All right.
I referred you a while back to a book about UFOs going into and out of the water called Invisible Residence by the late Ivan T. Sanderson.
Have you been able to find it?
art bell
No.
unidentified
Okay, if you can't physically get to a used book store, although Vegas should have its share, try Amazon.com.
They have a used book searcher.
You just type in the Title, and they shouldn't be able to find it for you.
And when you get it, you will find some very interesting things.
art bell
All right.
Well, I'll tell you a story.
I had an incredible caller.
It was during some open live session weeks ago.
I am so ashamed to say, you know, I have so much paperwork here.
And this man told a story about being in the military and recovering a craft from the ocean floor.
And it was an incredibly incredible, fascinating, riveting story.
And I put the man on hold and took his contact number.
And I turned this place upside down looking for it.
I lost the damn thing.
I wanted to call the man back.
And so if you're out there, please get in touch with me again and give me a phone number again.
I am so sorry.
It somehow got caught in the blizzard of paperwork around here.
And no doubt you made it to the trash.
I mean, I went outside and I looked in trash cans.
I did everything I could, and that thing just flat disappeared.
But I had his number.
He had given me his name and number, and I was going to follow up and do a whole show with this guy.
It was an unbelievable story about what he recovered at the bottom of the sea.
And I go and lose the number.
Unblinking believable.
So if you're out there, send me that number again, sir, and we'll get you on the air.
Undersea stuff?
Oh, yes, we've heard about it here.
unidentified
Friday night, Saturday morning.
art bell
Headed into Memorial Day.
unidentified
The trip back in time continues with Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM.
More somewhere in time coming up.
But I couldn't find a way.
So I'll come up with the lies.
Oh, no, no, you can't get the laundry.
Hanging our shirts in the dirty breeze.
And after it rains, there's a rainbow.
And then all of the colors are black.
It's not that the colors are there.
It's just imagination.
Everything's the same fact in my little town.
I know there's no family Premier Networks presents Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from May 24th, 2002.
art bell
It's a beautiful night in the high desert.
Outside right now, almost 70 degrees.
unidentified
In my little town.
art bell
My little town is beautiful.
Good morning, everybody.
I'm Art Bell, and this is Coast.
And listen, we're doing three things specifically tonight.
But of course, open lines and anything in general is fine.
But we're asking anybody out there if they've been sexually attacked by an entity.
And I know that one's way over the edge there, but I'm going to ask it anyway because I know sexual encounters, even in the real world, are not reported for the most part.
And of the sort we're talking about, probably almost never reported.
We're asking anybody who's had an actual first person, just like that young lady in the last hour, a first person experience with a monster to call.
And monster covers a lot of territory, doesn't it?
And then finally, we're taking predictions for the next six weeks only.
Something you think is going to occur very quickly.
Some large event.
Doesn't have to be connected to terrorism.
I know that's on everybody's mind.
How could it not be?
But it doesn't have to involve that at all.
This could be a prediction involving anything at all.
And so when you call, I will give it a number, and within six weeks, we'll know how y'all fared.
So far, very innocuous stuff.
Lakers, he says, in seven.
Sarah Fisher wins the Indy.
You know, not much.
It may be to be a nice, quiet six weeks.
But then again, we haven't taken that many calls yet, have we?
unidentified
The End.
End.
you You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from May 24, 2002.
art bell
Here we go again.
Open lines all the way.
Wilde, make that first time calling a line.
You're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
Hello, Art.
Hi.
My name is Terry, and I'm listening to you on 12.40 a.m. up in Susanville, California.
art bell
Yes, ma'am.
unidentified
Anyway, I've tried for several months to get through to you, and I know I've just recently emailed you, and I haven't heard back from you yet, but I'm the educated 40-year-old mother of two.
Yes.
I've had some terrifying experiences, memories that I choose.
I just can't believe I've gotten through.
art bell
Well, you have.
So just sort of take a deep breath and tell me what you mean.
unidentified
I will, because I believe in you, and I don't know who else to turn to.
I have two things.
One is I was introduced to a nurse in Reno, and I spoke to her one evening, and she told me of a doctor that could help me, that could possibly help me.
And she spoke to him that evening, and I remember this: that he did not want to speak to me over the phone, but he wanted me to call the following morning at his office.
art bell
What are we talking about here?
unidentified
First was, okay, I'm sorry.
The first one would be of someone who's worked for the government for over 10 years at Area 51.
art bell
You know somebody?
unidentified
Wait till I finish the story.
You're not going to believe it now.
art bell
I'm trying to get the story short.
You know somebody who works at Area 51?
unidentified
Well, I don't know him very well.
I am trying to hide at this point and keep a low profile because I've had mental health and the police at my door, they were wanting to take me away.
Why?
Because of my experiences.
art bell
Hold it, slow down, slow down.
What experiences?
unidentified
The video footage that I have and the memories that I have.
What I've seen.
art bell
Hold it, hold it, slow down.
What video footage?
unidentified
I have video footage of someone being brought back through a closed window and they were not in solid form.
And I need to get this to you.
I need an address as well before we hang up.
I need an address.
art bell
No, we're not accepting mail like that.
Here's what you've got to do.
unidentified
Oh.
art bell
You listen to me very carefully, all right?
Find a friend who owns a computer.
unidentified
Oh, yes.
art bell
That shouldn't be real hard.
unidentified
No.
art bell
And most anybody who's even a good quarter of a geek, let's say, knows how to turn video into a video file very quickly.
They can be sent to me that way at my email address, which is artbell at mindstring.com.
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
Okay.
unidentified
That one I know.
Okay, no, that's what I will do then.
I didn't realize.
art bell
That's the way you can do it.
unidentified
Okay, I didn't realize that.
I thought I could just send it in the mail.
art bell
All right, now you've had UFO experiences as well.
unidentified
Oh, yes.
Some of the video cities that I have, well, it's exciting, and you'll truly want to see it.
Okay.
So anyway, some of the encounters and some of the memories I've had at being taken, like I say, I'm not in that case, and this is very real.
art bell
Are any of these sexual in nature?
unidentified
No.
No, they're not.
Okay.
All right.
But what happened with the doctor, he told us that he did not want to speak to me on the phone.
art bell
That he wanted you to come, yeah.
unidentified
So anyway, the next and knowing that he worked for Area 51 for over 10 years, I knew not to call him Art.
I knew it.
art bell
Then why did you call him?
unidentified
Because it was a moment in my life that I wasn't in control.
art bell
All right, so I think I see where this is going.
So in other words, you went to this doctor and all this trouble with people coming after you came after that, right?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
art bell
All right, I've got it.
unidentified
There were things he told me how that I was paranoid, delusional, psychosis that I was experiencing.
But I said, now, wait a minute, you're telling me that you don't believe?
He doesn't always say, I believe.
He said, but what you're seeing is of this world.
He says, you know, it's not real.
It's not alien.
And I'm going, wait a minute.
art bell
Did you mention the videotape evidence to?
unidentified
Yes, I did.
art bell
And what did he say?
unidentified
He goes, well, what you're seeing.
And I said, wait a minute.
I have friends that have come over and have watched these tapes.
And, I mean, they know what they're seeing.
All right.
art bell
Well, all right, then here's the deal.
Listen to me.
Just please send the videotapes to me.
And that will end that.
What I will do is take what you send, and I will post it on my website.
If what you send is as you say, with somebody, for example, being dragged through a window in a half-formed state, then trust me when I tell you, we will have no problem believing you at all.
And I guess she went to the wrong person.
Going to a doctor who was up at Area 51 for that many years might not be the best thing for somebody to do.
So you made a big mistake there.
At any rate, send the evidence.
Evidence is really good.
Video evidence is, in fact, really, really good.
I realize that anything can be faked these days.
Nevertheless, video evidence, in my mind, is high on the scale.
So get it to me.
We'll get it up.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
Hi, hi, this is Bobo.
art bell
Yes, Bobo.
unidentified
Yes, yes.
I'm an amateur radio operator, and I travel with a circus.
art bell
You travel with a circus?
unidentified
Yes, that's correct.
Really?
art bell
Really?
What circus?
unidentified
Circus Vargas.
art bell
I know Circus Vargas very well.
As a matter of fact, I once got on the back of a motorcycle, Circus Vargas, when it came to, what was it?
unidentified
Vegas has the Shriners.
art bell
No, no, no.
I think it was in Central California somewhere.
Anyway, I got to ride behind this guy all the way to the top of the big top and then back down backwards on a motorcycle.
I was out of my mind.
unidentified
I never heard that.
art bell
Yeah, I got to do that.
unidentified
It was cool.
Well, I never experienced that.
Well, I've been with them about three years.
art bell
It's like being on a rocket ship, sir.
unidentified
As a matter of fact, I go to bed with you here every night.
About.
And at the winter quarters in Lacerne Valley.
You're just about the only company I have in the evening.
art bell
Ah, thank you.
unidentified
Yeah, Lacerne Valley is beautiful, but it's very, very lonely.
Anyways, I've been out of amateur radio for quite a few years, and I'm just now getting back into it.
As a matter of fact, I'm going to the Redondo Beach TOW SWAT Meet tomorrow morning.
art bell
Along with about a million other hands.
unidentified
Yeah, to do a little shopping, see what I could come up with.
Good for you.
And I'm going to try and set myself up as a Wicked DX contact.
I'll be on the air like an hour every evening.
I'm the end of shows, the lights out.
And I'm going to, from all over the state of California, different locations.
art bell
Oh, I'm sure.
Tell me something.
What's it like working for a circus?
unidentified
Well, it's a traveling show.
It's show business.
The talent and the management are all former talent, and they're all multi-generational.
Everybody intermarries.
You have people watching.
art bell
I was going to say it's a really, really tight group.
And you're telling me it's even tighter than I imagine, huh?
unidentified
An anthropologist would have a fear.
I mean, South American sides have nothing on the circus.
art bell
I hear you.
I hear you.
How long have you been doing this now?
unidentified
Well, this is my third season.
And this is my last season, too.
They're going to train me to drive a commercial truck, so I'll be able to leave and make a decent living somewhere else.
But I hooked up with the circus because I was getting my theater degree.
art bell
Well, that's an experience you'll never forget for the rest of your life.
unidentified
I'll tell you something.
It's an experience.
I'm in the lower management.
I'm the chief usher.
Okay.
And I'm high-level management, and I want to tell you something.
I've had some management experience before, but this is quite an experience.
art bell
I'm sure it is.
unidentified
But showtime, you know, you get ready for the show, and it's exciting.
I tell the superintendent we are ready to receive the public, and it's just a thrill.
art bell
It's got to be.
Yeah, that's an awesome job.
That's one big life experience.
unidentified
Cool.
It's a rush.
It makes it all worthwhile.
art bell
Listen, I've got to scoop, but thank you.
So I'll look for you on the air somewhere, huh?
unidentified
Probably 75, 80 meters, 40 meters.
art bell
All right.
Maybe they'll let you run a big wire up to the top of the big top.
Run a thin little wire that they can hardly see, and you'll get out like a bandit.
That would be a pretty cool job working for the circus.
And I know it is an extremely tight-net group.
Circuses are really interesting.
Really, really interesting.
And everybody always talks about running away and joining the circus.
Well, there are some people that really do that.
They run away and they join the circus, and that is it.
Usually, that's the rest of their life.
It's a kind of thing that you're in and you just, you don't leave.
In fact, we should interview some circus people like that man or somebody involved actually in the act part of it.
It's wild stuff.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Good morning.
Hello.
Going once.
unidentified
Hello.
art bell
Yes, hello.
There you are.
unidentified
Yeah, East of the Rockies.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
Yes, this is Jim in Falls Church, Virginia.
art bell
Yes, Jim.
unidentified
Yeah, and thank you for bringing the second renaissance to us.
I'm calling with a prediction, and part of this you could...
Yes.
art bell
Just blurt it out.
What is it?
unidentified
Okay.
Well, Antarctica is covered by about four or five miles of ice in thickness.
And Lisa Moulton Howe will back up some of this.
art bell
Linda Moulton Howe.
unidentified
Oh, excuse me.
art bell
Yeah, that would be the raw size shelf, mainly.
unidentified
But anyway, with all of this ice breaking off, there's so much ice on this continent that the mountains that are 17,000, 19,000 feet, the continent is depressed by the ice.
And if there was no ice, the mountains would be higher than the Himalayas.
art bell
All right, well, anyway, so what is your prediction, sir?
unidentified
That there's going, with this ice breaking off, that there's going to be an earthquake that's going to be about as close to a 10 as possible.
Where?
In Antarctica.
art bell
Okay.
unidentified
And with these mountain ranges going up from 17 to 19,000 feet to pushing up towards as high as the Himalayas.
art bell
All right, I think I've got it.
That's a very interesting prediction.
Now, you know what?
I don't know a whole lot about the geology of the Antarctic, do you?
Other than, as he pointed out, there's a lot of ice there.
But if they had something that approached a 10 magnitude at the Antarctic, everything could potentially break apart down there.
Boy, talk about an instantly catastrophic event.
Now, there's one to look at for six weeks.
That would be catastrophic, all right.
Most of the ice probably of the continent with the 10 would slide into the water.
World water levels, like, you know, a big fat guy jumping into the bathtub.
Well, that's the effect.
You get the idea.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Hello.
art bell
Hi.
unidentified
Oh, it's me.
It's you.
art bell
Yes.
Where are you?
unidentified
I'm in Portland, Oregon.
art bell
Portland?
unidentified
Okay.
Yeah, I'm not going to give my name.
art bell
That's fine.
unidentified
You don't mind?
No, I don't mind.
This one has to rape.
art bell
Oh, rape.
unidentified
Yes.
It's called, and I don't know if you know the term phantom rape.
art bell
Phantom rape.
Well, I know only what I've read.
For example, I read from a young lady earlier tonight the story that got all of this started.
And I thought, you know, it's a really rough subject to tackle on a nationwide open line show.
But number one, rapes aren't reported even when they're out in the real world.
Number two, phantom rapes.
What's the likelihood of those being reported?
And yet abduction, you know, people who study abduction say the incidence of sexual encounter is gigantic, but they don't talk about it.
unidentified
Well, I experienced phantom rape when I was like in my early 20s.
And it was a really strange experience.
art bell
How old are you now?
unidentified
I'm 45 now.
45, so I can remember it like it was yesterday.
I've never forgotten.
art bell
Then remember it for us.
unidentified
I was laying in my hide-a-bed in my front room, and I was there by myself, and I was kind of sleeping, and I heard a noise that sounded like my boyfriend was in the back room, but I'd known he'd already went to work, but I could still hear somebody in the back room, and I sat up, and I called his name.
art bell
So there was nobody, there was supposed to be nobody in the house.
unidentified
Oh, it was just me.
I was the only one there.
Everybody else was there.
art bell
So obviously you would call his name.
unidentified
Right, so I called his name thinking, well, maybe he came back And I was asleep.
art bell
Sure.
unidentified
And nobody answered, so I got out of the bed and I went into the room and looked, and no one was there.
So I went back into the bed again, started to kind of sleep again, but I was still awake, and I heard the noise again, and I said, His name, and I said, This isn't funny.
art bell
Yeah, that'd be right.
unidentified
And then I went back in again just to double-check one of the other rooms because there were like two bedrooms, and no one was in there.
I went back, laid back down, and I heard a noise like it sounded like a pair of man's boots going into my kitchen, coming out of the room and going into the kitchen.
And then I heard pots and pans clanging.
And I said, I know you're here.
And I said his name, and I got up and I walked in the kitchen, and there was nobody there.
So I went back and I laid on my bed again, and a couple of minutes later, I heard the boots coming out of the kitchen, the sound of the boots.
And I opened my eyes and I looked up and I saw it was just a shadow was all it was, of a figure of a man.
And I knew it was a man.
I knew it was a man.
But there was no face, no nothing.
It was the build of a man, like, you know, the spirit of a man.
And it held me down and I could not move.
And it came at my face like it was going to kiss me.
And a gush of air went into my mouth and filled my whole body and my face like I was blowing air.
And then it went away.
art bell
Oh, my God.
And then it went away.
unidentified
And then that was it.
That was the end of it.
My whole body filled with air.
And my mouth filled with air like when you blow.
art bell
Yeah.
unidentified
And my whole body expanded and then it went away.
And then I was normal.
And I sat up and started crying because I was so scared.
And I called my boyfriend and told him what had happened.
art bell
What did he say?
unidentified
He thought I was asleep.
I was making it out.
He said, oh, you're just imagining things.
And I said, I did not imagine.
art bell
Is there any question in your mind at all about whether or not you imagined it?
Even after all this year?
No question.
unidentified
I got up too many times and woke my, you know, got up too many times to check these different rooms and got back into the bed.
And I know what I felt.
art bell
I cannot tell you.
unidentified
I know something held me there.
And I know that air filled my body.
And I have never forgotten that to this day.
And I've told maybe two or three people about it.
And that's it.
art bell
Well, I sure appreciate your telling us.
Thank you.
unidentified
You're welcome.
art bell
And good night.
There's going to be a lot of that tonight.
I have this feeling.
If people can get the cojones up or whatever it takes, there's going to be a lot of that.
And we're ready.
unidentified
This is Premiere Networks.
That was Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM on this, somewhere in time.
Back in the bad old days, in the heat of a summer night, in the land of the dollar bill.
When the town of Chicago died, and they talk about it still.
When a man named Al Capone Tried to make that town his own, and he called his brain to war with the forces of the law, I heard my mom cry so hard to be in the ground.
It's a brown, and the sky is a hazy shade of winter In the sun that you know, it's gonna be a bright and what you've got for you, in the ground, and the time of winter.
And I'll be a hot day.
That's an easy thing to say.
You're not the winter, please pretend that you've been looking at my life.
Seems to change what the scenery we need time in the tempest.
Won't you stop and be listening to Art Bell somewhere in time tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from May 24th, 2002.
art bell
You're just joining us predictions for the next six weeks we're taking tonight.
We're looking for anybody with a monster story out there, and of course, the sexual attack question.
I'm Art Bell, and you're listening to Coast at the beginning of the Memorial Day weekend.
unidentified
Now, we take you back to the past on Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
Art Bell Somewhere in Time All right, let's rock back into the night, shall we?
art bell
First time caller line, you're on the air.
Good morning.
unidentified
Good morning.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
Well, I have a prediction for you.
art bell
Do you now?
Something that will occur within the next six weeks?
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
All right.
I'm going to assign a number to it, which is number four.
What's your prediction?
unidentified
That that bulge on the west side of Mount Rainier is going to go.
art bell
Oh, my.
Really?
unidentified
Kiss Seattle goodbye.
art bell
Yeah, that would be a real problem.
And there is a bulge there, isn't there?
unidentified
Yes, and they've had the glacier up on the mountain.
art bell
I wonder how much actual warning they would get, if any.
unidentified
Well, twice in the past eight months, they've been under 90-day warning.
Really?
She could go anytime in the next 90 days.
art bell
You know, living near something like that would be freaky, wouldn't it?
unidentified
I used to live in Tacoma.
art bell
You did then.
So, you know, that would be...
actually, it's probably more powerful, even.
unidentified
But the way the jet stream comes across there, it'll pull the ash across the United States.
art bell
It certainly will.
Well, actually, it might be second time around.
The jet stream certainly would grab it.
It might keep it up there, and then we might get dumped on as it comes back around.
A lot of times, and we might not even be safe from that because a lot of times the jet stream, especially in late years, has been taking this real weird twist where it goes right over Seattle and then curves around right back out into the Pacific and then almost right over our heads here in southern Nevada.
It does some really weird stuff.
unidentified
Yeah, see, I'm in northern Texas, so.
art bell
Oh, I see.
unidentified
So it comes straight across us, too.
Yeah.
art bell
All right, sir.
unidentified
Well, that's I do have a question for you, though.
Yes.
I can't remember if it was your site or not that I was reading about the magnetic, the electromagnetic pulse bombs.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
What happens if one of those is set off close to a nuclear plant and takes out all of the controls for the nuclear plant?
art bell
Well, all right.
Here's what I think is the answer to that.
Number one, I would imagine, I would hope, I would pray that nuclear plants would be hardened at least to some degree against that sort of thing.
By nature of the protections they have anyway, I would hope that they would have some protection.
But truly answering your question, sir, I don't have the slightest idea.
It may be they'd freeze, and all the controls, the electronic controls would freeze, and with the obvious ensuing problems.
We're going to have a guest next week on nuclear power, nuclear waste in the age of terrorism.
Now, things have changed, and nuclear power, its place in our society, I think, is not what it was, and it's really a shame in a lot of ways because it's a pretty good source of power as they go.
You know, that being said, there are a lot of attendant problems like, you know, Yucca Mountain right near me.
And then, of course, even more than that, the transportation of it to Yucca Mountain, the amount of waste we have and all the rest of that.
But ultimately, nuclear power would have been one answer for a very needful society with regard to energy.
But my God, since the terrorism has happened, I don't know.
It doesn't make the nuke plants look so good anymore.
They're just natural targets.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Hello.
How are you doing today?
art bell
I'm doing okay, sir.
Where are you?
unidentified
I'm in Mendocino County, California.
Okay.
I just wanted to make a comment about these people who have been, so to so, astrally molested or otherwise.
art bell
Well, again, you know, again, sir.
Some people use the word ghost, some say entity, some say evil entity, some say alien.
These are just our perceptions.
You know, it's something.
unidentified
Well, my comment is I had an out-of-body experience about four years ago in Amarillo, Texas while traveling.
And I was just, you know, that experience was so real to me that I decided to read all the literature I could find on astral projection and out-of-body experiences.
art bell
There's a lot.
unidentified
Yeah, there's a lot out there for sure.
And one book that I read, I think it was Journeys Out of the Body.
I forget.
It's a really popular one.
I forget the author's name.
art bell
Doesn't matter.
unidentified
He explained how he did an experiment while he was out of his body, and he went and spied on one of his friends and pinched her.
And the next day, you know, while he did that, she actually jumped, you know.
And the next day, he went to her and told her that he did that, and she lifted up her shirt and had a bruise where that had happened.
art bell
Well, I see exactly, of course, where you're going.
Now, we know that the world is full of all kinds of different people.
And if astral projection is real, which I believe it to be, I've interviewed many people on the subject, then some of the people out there might take sexual advantage of others in that condition, let's face it.
And so that could be one of the things we're talking about here.
unidentified
Yes, that was my comment.
I was going to say people could consciously be doing this thing because they have the ability to leave their physical bodies and do such things.
So, yeah, that's basically my comment.
art bell
Well, basically, sir, your comment is right dead on the money.
Thank you very much.
unidentified
Thank you.
art bell
I really appreciate that, and I think you're dead right.
It's something that so many researchers are afraid to talk about.
I mean it.
They're afraid to talk about it.
They're afraid to talk about the darker side of anything.
So many guests that I have on are in kind of a, maybe they feel they have to be, you know, but a touchy-feely kind of new age-y world where all is bright and good and happiness.
And the powers that we discuss on this program, and there are many powers we have discussed, many abilities and powers are, according to many of my guests, never used for anything dark.
Well, I don't buy that.
I've never bought that.
I think that any power, any ability, like everything else that we know about, can be used for good or evil.
And there are plenty of people out there in this world, we all know, who are willing to do mischief.
And if they can do mischief anonymously, and by that I mean rape, molestation, whatever you can imagine, and they can do it anonymously, and you really can leave your body and do these things, then you damn well have to imagine that it's being done, and that might account for some of these stories, and likely does.
It's just that the researchers always like to paint this stuff, and I understand, I guess, why they want to do that, and they don't really want to admit a lot of the people who talk about astral travel will tell you again and again, oh, it is absolutely safe.
I'm not convinced.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hello?
unidentified
Hello there.
art bell
Yes, hello.
unidentified
Hey, Arbelle.
art bell
Yes, that would be me.
Kokomo?
unidentified
Yes.
Oh, that's Kokomo hums because it can't sing, huh?
That's exactly right.
art bell
And tell me something.
Please tell me what the heck is going on there.
unidentified
I'm telling you, there is a little hum outside.
A lot of people say they can't hear it.
There's a lot of people that do.
art bell
Do you?
unidentified
Oh, I can hear it.
I can hear it.
art bell
You can hear it.
And what does it sound like to you?
unidentified
Well, you know, that's hard to kind of put into words.
Right.
That's exactly right.
That's what I kind of hear.
art bell
Is it enough to keep you awake at times?
unidentified
It don't keep me awake, but I've had neighbors and stuff down the road from me.
They've moved out of town.
art bell
Well, the effects of low frequencies on the human psyche and brain are pretty well documented, and you get dizzy, you get nausea, it disrupts you.
unidentified
But there's been people having to do their plaster crack in their house.
art bell
Oh, really?
unidentified
And just, I don't know.
It's just, it's strange.
art bell
Well, I understand that is it the Kokomo City Council or government there in Kokomo is allocating $100,000 to try to hire it.
unidentified
Well, you know what?
I thought, well, if I can go find it for them, maybe they'll give me that $100,000.
But, you know, there's people that can't hear it, but there's lots of people that can.
art bell
Well, let me ask you this, sir.
What do you imagine in your wildest dreams that it is?
unidentified
I think it's some kind of a fan on top of some building somewhere that's spinning, and it's either got a bearing out of it or it's hitting something.
It's probably on one of the top of the industrial plants.
art bell
So you're suggesting the vibration is transmitted through the building into the earth?
unidentified
It's something like that.
But, you know, you can go out, you know, if I go 30 miles outside town, you cannot hear it.
art bell
You know, I don't know if geology would find out a sound theory or not.
It just doesn't seem like the earth could transmit that minor a sound.
It seems almost like it would have to be under the earth to be transmitted that distance.
I could be wrong, and maybe you're right.
We'll see.
unidentified
$100,000, you know, somebody better find something.
art bell
Yeah, you know, that's a good point.
I guess politicians have their necks out a little bit on this because, as you point out, for $100,000, they better find something or they're going to get laughed at.
unidentified
Well, if I find something new or something, I'll fact you or email you.
art bell
All right, please keep us informed.
Call from Kokomo where this hum is going on.
It's pretty weird, and it's to the point where people are moving away.
And so, you know, when that begins to occur, obviously you get the attention of politicians who want to know what the hell's going on.
I take his idea, but it just doesn't seem geologically sound to imagine something would resonate through a building, then down into the earth, and be radiated that far.
You never know.
Stranger things.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Good morning.
unidentified
Oh, hi, Ari.
Hi.
Wow, it's great to talk to you.
It's been years.
art bell
Years, huh?
unidentified
I've been trying to get through for years.
art bell
That's too long between calls.
unidentified
For years.
Anyway, I just haven't had any good luck.
I have a great story.
I think it's a monster.
It was a monster to me at the time, that's for sure.
art bell
Where are you, huh?
unidentified
I'm in Eagle Point, Oregon.
art bell
Okay.
And what happened to you and when?
unidentified
Judy.
This was some years ago.
My daughter's grown now.
She's 31, and she was a little girl, about six or seven then.
We lived in Central California, and it was a hot summer afternoon.
She was in her room napping right next to my room.
And I had a friend over, and we were in my room with the shades drawn with a cold drink, probably a soft drink.
There was no substance abuse involved.
There was nothing going on that was strange.
We were just kicking back and trying to stay cool.
And we were having conversation.
And it wasn't about anything related to what happened next.
We were wide awake.
This is so crazy.
You know, I have never heard a story like this on your show.
And I listen every night religiously, really.
Okay, but it's true.
We were talking.
I had my back towards the side of my bed.
We were sitting on my bed.
And all of a sudden, I felt like a presence behind me, right at the edge of the bed.
And I figured it was my daughter because she would often wake up and just step into the room very quietly.
It wasn't.
I turned around.
And standing by my bed was a creature about, oh, he was standing upright.
It was covered with fur, long, long silver fur with a long, long nose.
It had really close-set eyes.
It was totally there.
It was breathing.
I could see it breathing.
It was in.
art bell
Was it humanoid?
Was it describe it further?
You said it at first, silvery fur.
unidentified
Long silver fur around its head and neck and chest.
It was standing upright.
How tall?
About three and a half feet tall.
art bell
Oh, small, small.
unidentified
Not real tall, right.
But, you know, later it came to me what it was, but at the time I was frozen in time and I couldn't move.
And I was Totally awestruck by this thing.
art bell
And later?
unidentified
And it started moving towards me.
It was totally three-dimensional.
It was so clear.
art bell
In other words, it had as much substance as somebody you would normally see in a room?
unidentified
Exactly.
But it had a little bit of a glow around it.
That was the only difference.
And it started moving towards me, and we had eye contact, and I couldn't move.
I was totally fascinated by it.
I was more fascinated than I was frightened at the time.
But I knew this thing could get me if it wanted to because it was right beside me.
And its face, as it moved towards me, it was opening its mouth.
And I could see these jagged, sharp, sharp teeth.
And its mouth was full of them.
And I could see its tongue, and I could see it breathing.
And it just kept getting closer to my face.
Its face closer to my face.
And it got to within, very slowly, within about four inches of my face.
And I couldn't stand it anymore.
I had to do something, even though it hadn't made an aggressive move towards me.
art bell
Well, that's what I call aggressive.
It's four inches from you.
It was really in my face.
unidentified
It was in my face, and it was so real.
So I turned to my friend.
Finally, I was able to move out of sheer panic.
And I turned to see if he was witnessing this thing, too.
And he was just riveted to me.
And he said, what is wrong with you?
You're white as a sheet.
And I knew he hadn't seen it.
So I turned back again, and it was gone.
And, you know, later I realized what it was.
And you're going to just think this is just so bizarre it was.
It was a silver baboon.
art bell
A silver baboon.
unidentified
I'm almost positive.
art bell
Did this thing make any sound?
unidentified
No sound whatsoever.
No message.
I have never been able to figure out why it happened.
A lot of strange things have happened to me in my life.
Most of them pretty vivid.
art bell
Yeah, I'd put that in the category of monster, all right?
unidentified
I would, yeah, it was more like a monster than anything else.
But it is.
art bell
If you hadn't snapped out of it, what do you think would have happened?
unidentified
Oh, my God, I don't know.
It was just about to touch me.
It was just.
art bell
I understand.
Do you think something would have occurred to you physically?
unidentified
Yeah, I do because it was so real and it was emanating energy.
I could almost feel that.
Excuse me, but I didn't really feel real threatened.
I knew it was interdimensional.
art bell
Well, that's because you were frozen with fear.
That really happens.
And I'm sure that aids a lot of abductions and all the rest of it.
You are flat frozen with fear.
You can't.
unidentified
I was.
I really was.
But it's absolutely true, and I've never heard a baboon story before.
Nor have I. I don't understand it at all.
art bell
Accepting those strange creatures that they appear to be seeing near the Florida Everglades and in parts of Florida, even some outside the Everglades.
There's sort of a kind of an almost Bigfoot-type creature, but not silvery the way you just talked about it.
unidentified
Yeah, this was exactly, when I thought back, I realized it looked exactly like a silver baboon.
Now, this is interesting.
I started researching baboons then because I thought it must have been symbolic or something.
Yes.
Excuse me, I have a cold.
And I didn't find anything.
I couldn't find anything in literature, art literature, anywhere I looked.
And I looked everywhere I could think of.
art bell
All right, well, now you've tossed it to a bunch of millions of people, and we'll get more info and see if others have had that encounter.
unidentified
That would be nice.
art bell
All right.
Thanks for your call.
unidentified
Thank you, Art.
art bell
Take care.
Well, how about it?
Anybody else out there have a silver baboon encounter?
I'm Art Bell.
This is Coast to Coast AM.
Good morning, everybody.
The Strange in the Night.
unidentified
The Trip Back in Time continues with Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM.
More somewhere in Time coming up.
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Now we take you back to the past on Art Bell Somewhere in time.
art bell
Good morning, everybody.
We're in open lines.
Here's an email I just got this minute.
Art, I've had two sexual encounters with nightly visitors.
The first one around 1993, and I was awakened by a figure standing in my bedroom door.
Because the light over the kitchen sink was on, out in the kitchen, I could see the figure, but no features.
I thought it was my college son coming up from his apartment downstairs to ask if we had anything to eat while he was studying.
I knew immediately it wasn't.
As it started walking across the floor at the end of the bed and came up to me and got on top of me, I was paralyzed, absolutely could not move.
I could feel and hear my heart beating in my chest and could feel the arteries in my neck pulsing.
I could hear my husband sleeping beside me and couldn't figure out why he didn't wake up.
I tried to yell at him to wake him up to help me, but I couldn't speak.
Just when I thought I was going to have a heart attack because I was yelling at this being telepathically that I was going to have a heart attack, he just vanished.
As soon as he vanished, I sat straight up.
My heart was still racing, looked around the room and tried to tell myself that it was only a bad dream.
I never told anybody about it because in my heart I knew it was not a dream.
But I really didn't know what it was.
Then about four years later, I had started sleeping in a guest bedroom because my husband was very ill and I rested better there at about 2 o'clock in the morning.
I had the feeling someone was in my room.
I woke up and there standing at the foot of my bed a large figure.
But this time, I wasn't scared at all because the room was filled with pure love.
It was the best thing I've ever felt in my whole life.
But this figure also came to the side of the bed and proceeded to lie on me.
It was great.
I don't know how I knew this, but I knew he had blonde, wavy, shoulder-length hair, and I kept asking him telepathically, who are you?
I could feel the weight of him on me, but I told myself this must be a dream.
However, I found out this time I was totally paralyzed except my arms.
So, I thought, perhaps if I crossed my arms over my chest, all I would feel would be me.
But I was wrong.
I felt a very broad, muscular back.
Again, I asked, who was he?
All of a sudden, he just vanished.
Then I couldn't move.
I'll never forget that feeling of total unconditional love that filled the room.
And many times I wished he would come back, but never has.
This is the first time I've told anyone I always thought everyone would think I was crazy.
Evelyn, and I will not even read the state that she wrote this from.
Thank you very much, Evelyn.
So that's one of the things we're talking about, kind of an out there on the edge topic, but not really.
Because as I keep saying, even in the regular world out here, folks, people don't report sexual assaults most of the time.
And of course, these sorts of sexual assaults probably are never reported.
But I'll tell you this, the abduction, people know all about it.
They just don't want to talk about it.
And then we're talking about classic monster encounters, if you've had one.
And then finally, we are taking predictions for a very short term period of time, the next six weeks only.
In other words, we're asking you to stick out your psychic neck and give us something astronomical, something big that's going to happen in the world.
Does not have to be terrorist-related at all.
some large event that you believe is going to occur in the next six weeks.
unidentified
Thank you.
Thank you.
You're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from May 24th, 2002.
The End And back into the night we go.
art bell
First time caller align.
You're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
art bell
Hello there.
unidentified
Hello.
art bell
Yes, you're on the air, sir.
unidentified
All righty, I'm calling from Cape Jordan, Missouri.
I happened to hear on Paul Harvey this afternoon that the story about the bouncer in London who was found stabbed to death, but when the lying in a pool of his blood, they thought.
A pool of his blood, and they did DNA tests on the blood and found out that the blood was not human.
art bell
That is correct.
unidentified
And, I mean, you know, I'd always, in my experiences with bouncers, I'd always thought these guys were gorillas anyway, but I mean, this is just a little bit on the ridiculous side.
art bell
Yeah, I'm laughing, and I shouldn't, because it's not really that funny.
I mean, here's a guy stabbed to death who obviously bled out lying in a pool of blood.
That's the way stabbing victims, unless the body has been moved, are always found, and the blood is not human.
Well, there should be a little adventure ahead, huh?
unidentified
Yeah, well, and I hadn't heard anything else about it or read anything else about it.
art bell
Well, I'll tell you why, because Scotland Yard only has the ability to tell if blood is human or non-human.
They don't have the ability to do DNA testing beyond that.
So they had to send the blood samples here to America to be analyzed.
And those blood samples are winging their way toward America right now.
unidentified
To be analyzed by a veterinarian DNA specialist, I believe.
art bell
That is correct, yes.
unidentified
They're checking for, well, I guess the only other thing it could be is animal blood or then not of this world.
That just, I thought, was an extremely interesting story.
art bell
Or there's one other possibility, sir.
unidentified
Yeah, what's that?
art bell
That the stabbing victim was not of this world.
unidentified
Yes, exactly.
And unless they find out that it's animal blood and for some reason somebody thought far enough ahead to try and throw everything off, but that still does not seem like it would be very feasible to me.
No, not in the least, but I thought of all the things I've heard recently, and I know you get an awful lot of varied calls on your show, and I listen to it a lot.
I think you do a great job with it, but I mean, for this to be a validated news story.
art bell
Well, I would like to say that I am surprised and shocked, but I'm not.
The world has been getting so strange and weird lately that it's just one more.
But yeah, it's a big one.
unidentified
I mean, this is widely reported by reputable news agencies that maybe would steer clear of anything that seems a little bit way too extreme.
art bell
Paul Harvey had it on.
It was on Paul Harvey earlier.
unidentified
Yes, exactly.
art bell
All right, sir, I appreciate the call.
Thank you very much.
Yeah, it was non-human blood.
I mean, here's a guy, a bouncer, big guy, I guess, stabbed in the street, lying in a pool of what should have been his own blood, right?
When you're stabbed when you're alive, you bleed out.
So there's always a pool of blood unless the body's moved.
And it's non-human blood.
So what are the possibilities?
Well, that he was stabbed somewhere else, brought here, dumped, and animal blood was substituted because, you know, after you've been dead for a while, your heart stops, you're not bleeding anymore.
So the body could have been moved and then animal blood added, but that seems pretty exotic stuff, you know, to occur in the street.
You know, a dumping of that sort.
That's one possibility.
Another is that something killed this man that was non-human.
Not likely in London.
And the third possibility is that the victim himself was not human.
And I guess we're going to have to wait for the DNA test.
That takes a while.
Wild card line, you're on the air.
Good morning.
unidentified
Good morning, Mark.
art bell
Hi.
Where are you?
unidentified
Iowa.
art bell
Iowa?
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
Okay.
unidentified
I had a, just, have you ever used After the Gold Rush as some of you have gone from using?
art bell
I don't think I have, but it sounds reasonable.
unidentified
Well, it's that abduction song from a long time ago.
Okay.
I had a prediction.
Okay.
art bell
It'll be only number five, and it'll be for the next six weeks.
unidentified
Okay, this one's for the next couple days.
art bell
All right.
Oh, really?
unidentified
Probably tomorrow.
Okay.
Earthquake.
And a little bit higher, what is that called, Richter?
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
Than it was, what is it, a week ago?
art bell
Where?
unidentified
This is, I'm not quite sure, but I think it's around the same area because I only really get predictions for the United States.
art bell
But somewhere here in the U.S.?
unidentified
Yeah, in the U.S. And was that fault running east to west last time that kind of shook?
Was that a fault running east to west?
art bell
What earthquake are you referring to?
unidentified
The last one last week, Southern California, 5 point something.
art bell
Oh, I don't know.
I forget.
I don't know that I even knew which fault line it was.
unidentified
Okay, okay.
Well, I believe this one's going to be north to south, and it's going to be a little higher than that.
art bell
Uh-huh.
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
All right.
So a prediction perhaps for as early as tomorrow, but very quickly for a California earthquake.
Well, or A earthquake.
unidentified
An earthquake, yes.
And yeah, it's going to be.
art bell
All right, can I ask you how this came to you?
unidentified
Yeah, I was praying.
And the last time I was praying, and I saw my vision rocking east to west, and the earthquake happened within two, three days.
And last night I was praying again, and I saw it rocking my perspective rocking a little faster, a little more violently, north to south.
art bell
All right.
Very good.
unidentified
Okay.
All right.
art bell
Anything else?
unidentified
Yes.
I've had actually three encounters with the unknown.
The third one, quite disturbing, but the first two.
art bell
Sexual encounters.
unidentified
Yes, sexual encounters.
The first two were in college that disturbed me quite greatly, but at the time, not like the third one.
But anyway, it was an all-girl dorm, all-girl school.
It was a finishing school.
And one night, you know, I had two roommates that had the bedroom, and I was sleeping in the living area on one of the beds, you know, provided by a college dorm.
Anyway, I felt something on me during my sleep, and I could not wake up.
And it was groping me and heading for the area that...
You knew you were asleep.
Well, I could not wake up.
art bell
Okay.
unidentified
And I finally let out a little.
art bell
You knew you were asleep, though.
unidentified
Yes, but this is...
You wake up and you're still in a dream.
And so I let out a little yelp or something, and it went away.
But just a short time later, within the month, it happened again, but this time I couldn't wake up.
And it had gone all the way.
And when I woke up, I smelled funny smell like ether.
Okay.
And then I checked all the doors and windows and everything, and there was no way nobody could have gotten in or anything like that.
art bell
And you said there was a third.
unidentified
Oh, my gosh.
Yes.
And that happened within the past few years.
I was, okay.
I was one of those girls that I had an abortion at 17, okay?
And what had happened is this young man kept coming to me in a vision, kept asking me if I'd be his mother.
And the boy was blonde and had pimples on his face and everything.
And after the third time Of him asking me this, I said, well, show me your father, you know.
And in my vision, I saw a beautiful man with eyes that looked right through me.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
Knew my soul.
And now, if I would ever meet this man, I mean, I'd like to know who he is, you know.
But anyway, soon after that last time, I said, okay, I'll be your mother.
You know, no problem.
And I went to bed.
It was within just, it was like either that night or within a few days.
I don't have a time frame on that.
I saw a young man, boy, around 14, 15, curled up in a corner in a room.
I was up a stairs in a room, and there was nothing in this room but this young boy curled up in the corner with blonde hair.
And I instantly saw him as my aborted child.
And he would be the age, he was the age that he would be today if he had lived.
But yet he was skinny and not deformed, but he wasn't really anyway, he was curled up.
And then this bulbous figure, this man-like creature with a bulb for a bottom, I mean, it was odd.
It looked like Yabba, the hut.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
Okay.
And he was dark, and he said...
So then the young man that I'd been seeing in my visions appeared, and then the young boy comes out of the corner, and they start going in a circle, and they consume each other, the feet and the mouth of the other, and they start spinning wildly, and then the man threw me over on my all fours, gave it to me in my back.
And he says, you have now conceived.
And I woke up and I felt like I'd been raped.
I mean, I was wet and everything.
art bell
You had been raped.
Now, this is such an incredible story because, you know, I have had, I can't tell you how many guests on the program, and we've talked about the nature of souls and the nature of reincarnation.
And what you just told me about the very young boy that you thought was the aborted boy you had had.
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
And this that was to be, and then the spinning around.
unidentified
That's just happened.
art bell
It's so incredible.
I mean, obviously.
unidentified
Snake consuming its tail.
art bell
Obviously, it was a joining or a rejoining or a newly joined soul.
That's an incredible story.
Now, the only question I have for you is, do you...
unidentified
You didn't, but he did?
Yes.
And the boy is looking quite a bit like the see, he's quite a bit younger.
He's only eight now.
Okay, a few years.
Okay.
I guess it was more than a couple years ago.
Yeah.
A few years.
art bell
That's an incredible story.
That's an incredible story.
unidentified
His mother and father, they're both on suicide mission 60, if you ask me.
art bell
I appreciate your call.
Thank you so much.
Right, good night.
That's really incredible.
And I knew that was the kind of thing that we were going to elicit if we dared move this way.
Now, God, that's incredible.
Again, I say to you, we've had so many people on this program talk about reincarnation, the nature of souls.
Frequently, one big question has always been about aborted children, when the soul is inculcated into the child.
Most recent opinion was first trimester, but who really knows, right?
And then, of course, reincarnation.
And the story she just told about the mixing and the whirling of these two is, in my opinion, absolutely astounding.
I really appreciate that story.
Off into a different area, as usual.
I'm Art Bell, and this is Coast to Coast AM.
unidentified
You're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from May 24th, 2002.
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art bell
It's Really interesting.
All you have to do is open the lines and bring up a subject that's otherwise taboo and nobody ever talks about it.
And all of a sudden, everybody talks about it.
Good morning, I'm Art Bell, and this is Coast, headed into the, actually already into the Memorial Day weekend.
unidentified
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Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from May 24, 2002.
Coast to Coast AM All right, directly back into the night in the east of the Rockies.
art bell
This time, you're on the air.
Good morning.
unidentified
Good morning, sir.
art bell
Hi, where are you?
unidentified
I am in New York.
art bell
In New York State?
unidentified
Yep.
Okay.
I was just calling about the spiritual rape.
art bell
Okay, are you on a speakerphone?
unidentified
No, I'm on a cordless phone.
art bell
A cordless phone.
All right.
Okay, yes, a spiritual rape.
I guess that's one word for it.
unidentified
Yeah, one of my friends was spiritually raped last year, one of my close friends.
And I guess for a while, she's in contact with spirits.
And I guess she was in contact with whom she believes to be Napoleon for about six months.
And I guess a good contact.
And then it became more like a poltergeist type of thing.
art bell
So this was like, you're telling me this was like an ongoing relationship with Napoleon.
unidentified
Right.
art bell
Now, you've got to admit, that sounds pretty wild.
unidentified
It sounds very wild, but she's had contact with Siris, I guess, for several years now, so I guess the only thing I could do is take her word on it.
art bell
She is not carrying Napoleon's child, is she?
I mean, that would be news for the world.
No, huh?
unidentified
No, I don't think so.
art bell
Did you believe her?
unidentified
It was a little hard to hear at first, but I think eventually it just became such a factor in her life.
She couldn't focus on her schoolwork.
She couldn't focus on really anything because this was bothering her so much.
art bell
That's incredible.
See if you can get her to call me.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
Would you do that?
unidentified
Sure.
art bell
All right.
I'd very much appreciate it.
Thank you.
That's one for the books.
There are, you know, in the psychiatric world, there are Napoleon complexes, but this would be the first intimate, ongoing relationship with Napoleon that I'm aware of being reported.
Western Rockies, you're on the air.
LO.
unidentified
Good morning, Art.
This is Diane in Missoula, Montana.
art bell
Hi, Diane.
unidentified
So I was originally going to call about an attack, but you know, I'm being inspired, Art.
I recently had a flirtation with a man that I just felt weak in the knees, so I think when I go to sleep tonight, I'm going to try and go get him.
art bell
You mean have an OBE, an out-of-body experience?
unidentified
I want to have my way with that man.
I am inspired, Art.
You have inspired me to go where no woman has gone before.
art bell
Gone before.
Well, you know what?
Other women may have gone there before.
unidentified
Oh, that's true.
Well, if I have success, I'll give you a call.
art bell
Have you actually ever been attacked yourself?
unidentified
Yes.
Yes.
I was the one that called, I don't know, a couple of months ago and woke up with bruises on her thighs.
art bell
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
And I had my first lucid attacks in Idaho Falls, Idaho.
I was camping in my motorhome.
And I went to sleep that night, very peaceful, and woke up with this pressure on my chest and a split perception.
I felt I could describe the outline of what was on me.
It looked like a man in a sidelink leather coat.
And then my perception split again, and I was being pulled up out of my bed.
And I woke up then, and my arm was reached, my body was up, and my arm was reaching, and I just had the feeling that if I hadn't woken, I would have been dragged along with him.
So that freaked me out for that image stayed in my mind for a long time.
art bell
For a long time.
And now you're ready to go and return the favor, huh?
Have you studied OBEs at all now that I know you're laughing, but no, no, no.
unidentified
I started studying Carlos Castaneda 20 years ago and was inspired by Don Juan and the whole Castaneda thing about perception.
art bell
So you're serious.
You're really going to try this?
unidentified
Oh, God, Art, of course.
Well, somebody out there is an art situation.
I have to have a moral.
I'm in a position where I can't have sex with my coworkers, Art, because I'm morally bound not to do that.
But in my dreams, now, that's another story.
art bell
In your wildest dreams, huh?
unidentified
That's right, my wildest dreams.
And that's why I listen to you, Art.
You fulfill my wildest dreams.
All right.
art bell
Thanks for the call.
unidentified
Thank you, Art.
art bell
Good luck to him.
Well, you know, again, I've talked to a lot of OBE researchers, and they all know damn well this is a big part of out-of-body experience and research.
It's just a part that they don't talk much about.
They just spend a lot of time telling you how safe it is and all the positive, flowery, beautiful little aspects of it.
And rarely do you hear stories like the ones you're hearing tonight.
You just don't hear them.
But trust me when I tell you, it's an integral part, a very integral part, of these sorts of experiences.
I mean, so much so that it's probably the majority of these kinds of experiences, but it's one of those things that people normally just won't talk about.
And can you Blame them.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Yes.
Hello, Art.
Good morning.
art bell
Good morning.
unidentified
Yes, I'm calling from Missouri.
art bell
Okay, you're going to have to yell at us.
You're not too loud.
unidentified
Okay, yes.
I want to share with you my experience about 12 years ago.
Yes, ma'am.
Me and my husband checked into a hotel, and we were in one part of San Diego.
And, well, when we were sleeping, I was lifted up from the bed that we were both sleeping.
art bell
While your husband was asleep next to you?
unidentified
Yes, we were both sleeping.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
We had arrived from the airport and we checked into the hotel before we visited our family.
So when we were sleeping, I was lifted up from the bed.
My whole body was locked up, but my head, I can move my head.
art bell
That's all?
unidentified
Yes.
And when I was experienced this, you know, what happened was I was completely awakened by this lifting thing.
You know, I couldn't describe it, but just being lifted, it's like not like by a hand, not like by any kind of force.
If I want to say it's like a wind, you know, it's some kind of a wind, if it is.
Well, when I, you know, it goes like very slow, very slow, and I was going up, up, up, and, you know, I have my cover on top of me.
It was on, you know, on top of both of us.
Well, when I look at him and he's sleeping and he's facing the other way and the blanket is, you know, coming off of his body and was going up with me, I was looking at him and I'm looking at, you know, above me and I'm coming closer and closer and closer to the ceiling.
I couldn't say anything.
I couldn't move my body and I don't understand what was going on.
And all this time I was looking at him and I was looking up at the ceiling.
I was looking at him.
I was looking up at the ceiling.
And this blanket completely come off of him.
And when I look up and I knew I was going to hit the ceiling, okay?
Because it was just lifting me all the way up.
And the next thing I know, I was back on the bed.
And, you know, when I turn around, I wake him up.
He was deeply asleep.
art bell
In other words, you went up all the way, virtually all the way to the ceiling.
So far, it pulled the covers off him.
unidentified
Off him, yes.
Yes, it did.
So the last time when I looked at the ceiling, I got so scared because I knew I'm going to crash into it, right?
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
And I look at him, and the next thing I know, I was back on the bed.
art bell
All right, well, let me tell you what that sounds like.
That sounds like an OBE.
That sounds like an out-of-body experience.
Now, the only thing I would have difficulty explaining would be the blanket coming with you.
Normally, in an OBE, your essence, your soul, your consciousness moves out of your body.
And you are able to, for example, see your body.
But normally, there wouldn't be a physical thing like a blanket being pulled with you.
So I'm afraid I don't know exactly what class to put that in.
It's not exactly an OBE because it has physical characteristics that, to the best of my knowledge, usually don't accompany an OBE.
Very interesting.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Is that me?
art bell
That would be you, yes.
unidentified
Okay.
Hi.
art bell
Hi, sir.
unidentified
Good morning, everybody.
Hi.
Okay, this happened in Sedona, Arizona.
An interesting, very interesting place, dear to my heart.
Okay, a friend and I were walking towards the creek, and we were just in a real mellow state of mood and walked up and about waist high below us, because we were kind of up on a ridge, We looked down and we saw something that neither of us could focus on because the brain would not compute what we were seeing.
It wasn't like looking at a glass or something that you're not...
art bell
If your eyes see something that your brain doesn't recognize at all, that it has no reference for, it's like you just, your brain can't assimilate it.
It doesn't put a name to it.
unidentified
Right on.
It's almost like looking, you know, like how a bird will look at you or something, and they kind of tilt their head back and forth and the eyes wide.
art bell
That's right.
unidentified
Well, that's exactly what we did.
And we were both looking, and all of a sudden, I realized when it came into focus that it was a very small, thin being that had on a black cloak.
But I'll tell you what, one of the most interesting things about that cloak, and of all the experience, this whole experience, that cloak blew my mind because it was the color of the deepest, darkest black that you could imagine.
But it had flecks.
Now, this was in the autumn.
And if you've ever seen Oak Creek Canyon in the autumn, it's just awesome.
It's beautiful.
art bell
Was this a human creature, or how much detail could you see of this?
unidentified
Okay, Art, we were standing probably about three feet from this being.
I prefer not to say creature or monster, but I feel like this is the first time I've put this story out.
Actually, the person that was with me, I forced him not to tell anybody about it.
art bell
So he saw too?
unidentified
Oh, absolutely.
So what happened was that you saw that.
art bell
Please, describe as best you can for us what you saw.
unidentified
Okay, the cloak had every color of the leaves that surrounded it in the most brilliant gold colors.
The black was not a black, which is like of the color strobe.
It was an infinite color of black, by the way.
All right, you're really focused on this robe or cloak, but he was about, I would say it was male.
Okay, starting from the top of the head, interestingly, the hair wasn't like human hair that comes straight down.
It was red.
It was almost like a bozo the clown colored red, but a deeper, more natural color.
And it stuck straight out, kind of like it got an electric shock.
Like an electric shock.
I never thought of it that way.
You betcha.
That's it.
And straight out, all around the top of his head.
And then you come down to the face, and the face is kind of a grayish-looking, bluish animal features.
It kind of had somewhere between a pig's snout and a wolf's face.
art bell
Oh my.
unidentified
And almost a human-looking mouth underneath that.
And the eyes were very close set.
And now its hand was very interesting also.
Not only the cloak caught my eye, and of course, like I said, not being able to focus on that, like you said, the brain just wasn't computing, so my eyes were wide.
art bell
If you were to stop me now and say, what does that sound like?
It sounds a little like some sort of vampire.
unidentified
Oh, I just couldn't even go there.
I'll tell you, this is going to blow your mind, the bottom line of the story.
Let me finish with the hand, and then we'll go to the end.
art bell
Fire away.
unidentified
The hand is kind of a grayish, greenish-looking color there again.
It has only three fingers.
art bell
Oh, bro.
unidentified
Clawed fingers, very thick fingers.
I'll never forget the picture in my mind.
I see it now.
art bell
Wait a minute.
Clawed.
Delineate between fingers like our human fingers.
unidentified
Okay, it was just like human fingers that have really bad arthritis and really thick.
And then he was swirling.
He was bent down, swirling in a clockwise position in the water.
And when he looked up at me, you could see the mouth open.
He went like that and looked up with big eyes.
And at that moment, my heart just went boom.
And I grabbed my friend.
We turned around and I said, keep walking.
And we turned around and kept walking.
All of a sudden, he goes, what did you just see?
What did you just see?
And I stopped.
I turned to him and I said, what did you just see?
And we both described the same thing.
I said, I am going back.
This is an opportunity that I'm sorry I can't pass on.
And he was grabbing me saying, no, no, no.
art bell
That happens in every horror movie ever made.
A girl always goes back.
unidentified
So I go back and fully expecting art, fully expecting that this being was going to be gone for the hills.
We come down.
I said, okay, I'm not going to be up above.
I don't want to be like a one-upmanship, me up here, you down there.
So I noisily came around like I was stomping for a snake, came down and was on the level, walked down the side of the red rocks there, came around and I was facing nothing more than this most beautiful woman sitting in the lotus position.
And she was, again, had all the colors that surrounded the creek at that time.
We walked up and the guy started rattling.
He was nervous, of course.
And he said, we just wanted to talk with you, you know, and I just looked at him and gave like this shh.
And she welcomed us to sit down in the most peaceful, angelic, most beautiful, serene voice.
So we sat down cross-legged in front of her, just as if you were sitting two feet away.
She was beautiful.
And you know what?
I don't know what happened.
We had a lapse of time.
We had no idea.
Once we got up, we both stood up simultaneously, said thank you, and we turned around and walked away.
And I said, what did she say to us?
And he said, I don't have a clue.
art bell
Well, you had an experience, didn't you?
And it may take hypnotic regression to find out what happened, but boy, oh boy, after what you've told me, I think I'd want to know.
unidentified
Well, you know, I ran into an Indian gal not too long after that, and she had said that, and she was from that area, and their Indian cultures have been there for thousands of years.
And she was like the only person that I did tell, because I said, can you tell me what this might have been that I had seen?
She was a maid at one of the resorts up there.
And never saw her before, never saw her after.
And she said, well, what you've described, you know, they talk about nikivas and stuff.
And generally, the only people that see those are the shamans.
And they haven't seen them for generations and for thousands of years.
They have not been around.
But they call them the keepers of it.
They're like a guard that stands guard between dimensional levels.
I don't exactly recall the break.
art bell
The way it's going right now with dimensions, we need guards because all hell lose.
unidentified
Yes, sir.
art bell
All hell is breaking loose.
All right, I really appreciate that.
Some story.
Thank you.
Take care.
Oh, my.
The only thing I would have to say to this, and I understand that I'm always over on the perhaps darker side of this than a lot of researchers, but it seems to me that in a lot of cases of abduction,
of examination, and all kinds of things that go on with human beings and whatever these entities are, people describe this wonderful feeling of pure love and all the rest of it.
Well, haven't you all considered that that might be like a narcotic?
That you're being presented or imprinted with a mental image of something that's all warm and lovey and fuzzy, and maybe it is and maybe it isn't.
But that certainly would be the best way to keep you under control, wouldn't it?
Now, she said she didn't remember a thing and there was a lot of missing time.
My advice would be go and get regressed and find out what happened to you if you really want to know.
I just am not so sure that all these researchers are right.
I know that what they do is they report what people say, just like what that young lady had say, about how it felt all warm and fuzzy and world and the warm, embracing love and all the rest of it.
But how do you know, especially after seeing The Matrix, that that's really what happened to you?
It might be kind of like a higher Class narcotic for your brain, something that is presented to you to mask the real horror that's going on.
And I'm not saying that's what's happening.
Maybe it is everything it seems to be all warmness and fuzzy love, but I simply am not convinced.
And most researchers simply won't talk about it.
I mean, they just flat won't talk about it.
And that has always made me wonder.
It really has always made me wonder.
And think that, well, maybe they're just all wrong.
unidentified
Anyway, shall we break?
art bell
We have an hour yet to go.
In the nighttime with Coast to Coast AM, I'm Art Bell.
Good morning.
unidentified
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Telling me I got to beware.
I think it's time we stopped.
Children, watch that sound.
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And she's when you missed it.
Crystal ball on the table.
Show I love you to the past.
Same catch with their new eyes.
And I knew it was a spell she cast.
She's just a devil woman, beautiful woman.
Beware the devil woman, she's gonna get you.
She's just a devil woman, beautiful woman.
Beware if there's a woman, she's gonna get you from behind.
You feel the ring on your finger, misty bands on your hand.
I can see the extra stranger, giving you what you had in plan.
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art bell
Listen to this one, everybody.
It just came in.
Email just came in.
Art, I used to drink every morning.
Make that every evening.
Art, I used to drink every evening until I was sleepy.
One night, I remember going to bed and having terrible dreams of monsters and everything.
When I woke, I was on the floor and I was in pain.
I got up knowing I had a bladder infection because of the discomfort and looked in the mirror and found I had a black eye and marks of a beating on my cheek below.
I went to the bathroom and knew I had been assaulted sexually and very roughly at that.
There was no one in the house except my daughter and I. I checked on her and she was safely asleep.
I checked on the house.
It was secure.
For several days, I had glimpses of demons.
The next day, I went to the doctor, and he verified the bladder infection.
He asked me about sexual activity, and I explained I was celibate.
He didn't press me for any more information, but both of us were uncomfortable at this point.
I quit drinking.
This was a demon attack, and I believe too much booze opened me to this attack.
It was a very strong message.
And believe me, I can still picture the demons who attacked me.
Signed, S. In Texas.
unidentified
Now, we take you back to the past on Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
art bell
Once again, into the night and east of the Rockies, we go.
You are on the air.
Good morning.
unidentified
Hi, Art.
I'm calling from Memphis, Tennessee.
I'm a first-time caller.
I hear a lot of people describe these erotic experiences that they're having during their out-of-body experience.
art bell
Some might say erotic.
Others would say rape.
And I guess maybe it's both, you know?
unidentified
Well, I was wondering if you've ever heard anyone describe during astral projection, or I guess what you call an out-of-body experience, like have actually being murdered, you know, and being killed on an astral level.
I mean, I don't know if that's possible.
art bell
I don't either.
No, I have never heard that.
And the researchers that I've had on would all say maybe it could happen, but if it did, you would instantly return to your body.
unidentified
I've been having involuntary out-of-body experiences since childhood.
art bell
Involuntary.
unidentified
Involuntary.
I mean, it's like when I go to sleep, it just happens.
I have this feeling that I'm really, that I'm leaving my body.
art bell
And you can separate this from what you know to be a dream, right?
unidentified
Yes, I can, because in these circumstances, it's like I'm in control of the situation.
I mean, sometimes it even woke in my roommates.
I'd be forced, like, speaking in languages that I don't even understand.
You know, like, I don't speak Spanish fluently, but I have in my sleeve.
art bell
Okay, so in other words, you've learned control what happens when you're out of your body?
unidentified
Yes, I have.
But I've had some very disturbing experiences.
Over the course of the past two years, I've been involved with a young man here in my town.
He's a very wicked kind of person.
And I've had some terrible experiences with him on the astral level.
But I have reason to believe that I've witnessed murders that have taken place.
art bell
Oh, my goodness.
And have you ever seen anything in real life, you know, newspaper, radio, television, to verify?
unidentified
I haven't, but the chances of these things being out in the open is pretty slim.
I mean, here in the town where I live, I mean, there are a lot of things that go on that no one ever hears about.
I mean, people die every day.
You don't hear about it on the news.
You know what I'm saying?
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
And I have a very strong telepathic connection to this person, and I feel like in some way that he has tried to reach out to me on an astral level, on some kind of subconscious level, to inform me about this, you know?
And I brought it up to him before.
It's very awkward.
I feel like this has happened to me more than once.
art bell
Only astrally, or have you ever met this person physically?
unidentified
This person is real.
He's a real person.
art bell
Yeah, but I'm saying, have you had actual physical, face-to-face contact with this person in real life as well as astrally?
unidentified
Yes, yes.
I mean, this is someone that I see on a very regular basis.
And I also see him on the astral.
And I feel like he's a very negative force on this earth.
And I feel like we're almost at warfare in a sense.
I felt like before I was under psychic attack in a way.
I felt like that my life has been endangered by this individual.
He thinks that he's the reincarnation of Aleister Crowley.
art bell
Oh, my God.
unidentified
He's been sent here to kill people and stuff.
And I'm really concerned that I may have seen some things that have happened, and I don't really know how to confirm these things or really what to do about this.
But I was just wondering, you know, what happens if you are killed by someone while you're on the astral level?
I mean, can someone really kill your soul?
I mean, and how does that affect your everyday life?
art bell
All I can tell you is what almost every researcher on OBEs has said to me, which I personally don't happen to believe, and that is that you're always safe.
That no matter what would happen to you on the astral plane, if something awful happens, you snap right back into your body.
It's the one thing that I've never completely bought into as far as these researchers are concerned.
unidentified
I don't know how that could really be so.
I mean, because something of that magnitude, I mean, it's going to not only emotionally affect you, but it's going to affect you.
I mean, considering that we are whole beings, you know, as far as our mind, body, and spirit are connected.
art bell
Let me tell you what always stops them cold, all right?
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
I say to them, listen, an awful lot of people die in their sleep, right?
And they always say, yes, because they have to, because it's true.
And then the next thing I say to them is, how do you know that they didn't die astrally and indeed physically as well?
unidentified
Right.
art bell
And they go, well, I don't know.
So there's your answer.
unidentified
You know, I think a lot of people go into, who are new at astral projection or who are not familiar with it, go into looking for some kind of pleasurable sexual experience.
art bell
Yeah, I had a lady like that a little while ago.
Did you hear that lady?
unidentified
Yeah, I did.
And, you know, I want to say a word of caution to anyone who is seeking any kind of sexual or emotional gratification through astral projection.
It's a very serious thing, and it may at first seem like it's something harmless or something that could be beneficial to you.
But like you said, you may perhaps be opening up a door to something that may be more powerful than you really expect.
And you should always be very careful, you know, and you should pray or meditate or whatever about that.
art bell
So in other words, you might say astral sex is not necessarily safe sex.
unidentified
No, it's not necessarily safe sex.
You may be opening your channels to something very negative and you may not even know it.
art bell
I appreciate the call.
unidentified
Thank you very much.
art bell
I thank you very much.
That's something to think about.
Isn't it?
That lady was pretty charged up about taking off after her dream man.
But you may get more than you bargain for.
And I'm the doubting Thomas on this astral projection thing.
It may be all fine and warm and fuzzy, but I sort of never bought that.
I mean, on the astral plane and elsewhere, it seems like there's positive and negative, yin and yang to everything.
And I know researchers are loath to talk about the yang part, but they ying it up pretty well.
But the yang part, they don't talk about.
I've always believed they're probably nearly equal forces.
And what's to the Rockies?
You're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
Good morning.
Good morning.
I was just thinking, there's been quite a few of us gals calling in with strange, erotic experiences in the night, but I haven't heard the men calling in as much, and I thought that was rather curious.
I don't know.
art bell
Well, it's not in the sense that when a topic catches on, all of a sudden everybody out there who's been afraid to say anything because they felt so alone all of a sudden isn't afraid to say it anymore.
unidentified
Well, I'm still afraid that from hearing some of your other stories tonight, it's been kind of a balm to my spirit because something like that happens to you and you truly, you don't talk about it and you feel possibly that you're the only one.
So it's really a relief to hear that you're not.
art bell
Quite obviously you're not.
What happened to you?
unidentified
Vacation cabin in the hills in the hallers, way back in the haller is where my cabin was.
And there's certain parts of the United States that the CB radio is used more or less like the old-time party lines.
You know, people, neighbors keep in touch.
And so I couldn't sleep.
It was evening, late at night.
And so I thought, well, you know, I'll turn the radio on.
And I didn't have a phone at the time.
Friends had come over and hooked up a decent base unit so that I could, you know, call out and say, hey, could I get a ride to the store?
You know, whatever.
So I got on the radio and I was just kind of surfing through channels.
And I was having a conversation with some people.
And all of a sudden, a different voice came in.
And it was very low, very masculine.
I would say almost an ancient type of Voice very powerful, and everybody else got quieted down real fast.
And this voice told me, he says, I've been waiting for you for a long time.
And I just thought, well, you know, it's just somebody else that can't sleep, you know.
So I says, well, you know, I talked to him, you know, a few minutes.
And then he says, switch channels to, he says, this channel's too crowded.
Switch to, I don't know, whatever channel it was.
So I did, and he was there.
And he says, well, he says, before I talk to you anymore, you have to do something for me.
And I said, well, what?
And he says, well, close your eyes.
And I thought, yeah, whatever.
So I left my eyes open.
And I said, okay.
He says, no.
I said, close your eyes.
And that, you know, that did kind of scare me, but I thought, whoa.
So I thought, well, yeah, I closed my eyes.
And then he said, basically, he mesmerized me.
Sort of a hypnotic thing, I think.
I've seen hypnotism done at county fairs, and also years and years ago, Path Collins in a nightclub show, I saw her.
So I've seen, you know, that sort of thing.
But at the time, that was the farthest thing from my mind.
I was safe.
I was in my own living room, and I was just talking on the radio.
Well, he says, you're in a boat, a small boat, and you're rocking.
And you're rocking, and you're going slowly down the stream.
And he's going like it.
And all of a sudden, my eyes flew open, and I said, that's the same words my granny used to say to me when she wanted me to take a nap.
And he says, that's right.
And see, I didn't grow up in this area.
I have ties back there, but I grew up on the West Coast.
And so by then, it was like too late.
And I realized that somehow the radio had opened up some sort of pathway.
The next thing I knew, I had this creature in my living room over me, you know, just sort of like over me and looking in my eyes.
And I it was.
art bell
I guess you didn't have a heart attack, huh?
unidentified
Well, it came.
I tell you what, it left a lasting impression.
I pretty much lost my mind for about three days after that.
art bell
You were assaulted?
unidentified
I was.
I was raped, but as I said, I was also mesmerized so that I was raped, but this creature had the ability to be inside my mind and make himself extremely desirable to me.
art bell
See, as I've listened tonight to these various stories, I'm beginning to see a connection, I think, between out-of-body or astral travel and the kind of situation you're talking about, and so many others have tonight.
And I know it's going to be a challenge for OBE investigators to really start talking about this, but I think it's time that they did.
unidentified
Well, it's certainly not something like I was seeking.
I wasn't looking on the radio.
I was just, you know, like I say, people just pass the time of day or night, you know, on the dang thing, and I wasn't at all afraid.
Well, the next thing that happens is hours later, this basically art, I have to say, this was a werewolf.
He called himself Wolfman.
Yeah.
art bell
Really?
Did you hear the story earlier today about London?
unidentified
I did.
It blew my mind.
I heard it earlier on the radio.
art bell
I'm getting a lot of people on computer that are saying, werewolf, werewolf.
unidentified
Really?
art bell
Well, who knows?
unidentified
Oh, my God.
You know, I didn't think of that.
I was thinking alien.
art bell
Maybe it's going to come back to cow's blood.
Who the hell knows?
But, you know, this was a man stabbed to death, and he was in his own pool of blood, which was non-human.
unidentified
I have goosebumps all over me.
I hadn't thought of that as it pertained to what happened to me.
I was thinking, oh, this was an alien.
But you know what?
There is that possibility.
The rule kicker art, this is a really embarrassing part.
For hours, this creature had sex with me.
I mean, verbally, I fought back.
I was physically powerless to.
But even though I was mesmerized, I was still, I was, I wasn't a willing participant in ways.
I was saying no.
And he was saying, you know, gross things like lick my fur.
I mean, he was having sex with me in my living room.
art bell
Lick my fur?
unidentified
I know, Art.
It's just, it's really out there.
But the bad part, Art, my radio was keyed down for hours that night.
art bell
Oh, my God.
unidentified
So everybody within, and I had a pretty decent bass unit, everybody within miles.
The whole damn thing.
art bell
I wonder if anybody recorded it.
unidentified
I would hope not.
art bell
I'm humiliated and appalled and there really were witnesses then, in a way.
unidentified
Well, yeah, at one point, finally, when I came back to myself, I had thrown my arm over and knocked the radio, the base unit, and it just, he disappeared.
But the radio was still on.
And, of course, as soon as I could move and come to my senses, I took my finger off the key.
And the next thing I heard were these two other folks.
And first, it was real quiet.
And it was a woman, an elderly woman.
It sounded like she couldn't sleep either.
And she says, Well, I never.
And then there was this older gent, and he says, I've been listening to this here radio for 40 years, and I ain't never heard nothing like that.
Well, he left me with some kind of a hypnotic, some kind of a post-hypnotic suggestion.
So then, after daylight, that's when I lost my mind, and I got on the radio.
I surfed every channel looking for that creature again.
art bell
You wanted to find that creature again?
unidentified
He had done something to my brain.
I wanted to be with him again.
art bell
All right, all right.
I've got to break it off.
We're at the bottom of the hour.
That's some incredible story, though.
unidentified
Yeah, I finally located somebody that knew something about him, a witch.
I told her I wanted to find him.
She said, why?
I said, he has something of mine.
She says, why?
She said, what?
I said, my free will.
I want it back.
art bell
I got you.
I've got to go.
We've got to break right here.
unidentified
We'll be back.
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You're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from May 24th, 2002.
art bell
Good morning, everybody.
What a night, huh?
This has been a really, really strange one.
But then again, that's what we're here for.
unidentified
Thank you.
You're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from May 24, 2002.
Coast to Coast AM And backing to the nighttime, we go to the first time caller line.
art bell
You're on the air.
unidentified
Good morning.
Good morning.
All right.
art bell
Hi, how are you?
unidentified
Fine.
How are you?
You know, I've been listening to you for years, and this is the first time I called, tried to call, and I got right in.
I can't believe it.
art bell
Well, that's why we have the first time caller line.
unidentified
Well, you know, it's so, you know, when I hear you do these Friday programs and hear these experiences that so many people relate, and I've had so many of them all of my life.
Yeah.
Oh, yes, ever since I was very young, very tiny, out of body, leaving my diestro, projection, you know, all that stuff.
But recently, this phenomenon that has seems to be happening, and mostly it seems to women, with this rape or, you know, all of this stuff.
Well, it has happened to me too, except that I have been able to command the spirit, or whatever you want to call it, to leave.
art bell
Oh?
unidentified
Yes, I have.
art bell
And how long did it take you to figure out you could do that?
unidentified
Well, I have had to learn over the course of many years to ground myself and that I am a being who needs protection.
Because I say I have come to the earth that way, very open, and I have been having just outrageous experiences since I was a very little girl, and my family recognized that.
As a matter of fact, when I was a toddler, I used to hear my mother and my aunt, their two sisters, talking about me, and they're recognizing all of this stuff about me ever since I was an infant.
Because when I was like four years old at the dinner table, I made every things went flying on the table when all of a sudden, during the middle of dinner, I sat and told everybody exactly what they were doing.
This is the fourth day of my life when I came home from the hospital with my mother and exactly where my bathinet was, what they were all saying, what I was crying about, what they were wearing, and what they were eating and cooking.
Yeah, and so, but this, you know, this lady who just called and was so articulate about speaking about this man who she's acquainted with who has, who seems to have an evil countenance.
Yes.
And I can relate to that because there is a, let's say, gentleman where I work, and I am a music teacher.
He's like a, well, he's a presence in the area that I work in.
And he has been like really, he's kind of like after me periodically.
He has a problem with substance abuse, with alcohol.
So he's like, you know, not in control of himself.
art bell
You know, it's kind of interesting that, you know, substance abuse, specifically alcohol, seems to play a part in opening some doors for this sort of thing.
I read an email from a lady about that a little while ago.
unidentified
Absolutely.
And I have noticed it too because, I mean, you know, we witness all kinds of abuse, but alcohol seems to be something where, I don't know, there's just a lot of bad behavior in an everyday basis with alcoholic satisfying, that is associated with alcohol abuse.
art bell
Well, I mean, look at what goes on with alcohol in a waking state.
Look what it does to people.
It emboldens them.
It makes them not care about consequences.
And so, if somebody in that state were to move into an OBE state, why should we believe it would be any different?
unidentified
Oh, absolutely.
And this is exactly the case.
I mean, this person, you know, I had to be the mature one and try to keep peace.
I want to, you know, like to keep peace in my workplace, and I'm very happy in what I do.
I'm a musician.
And it's just, you know, and I'm the kind of person who believes that, you know, well, if I'm going to do something, I'm going to enjoy doing it.
You know, work.
You know, I always enjoy my work.
I always have.
But to make a long story short, he's the type of person, of course, with this bad behavior pattern who would not take no for an answer.
And he's also, of course, always acting outside of reason and truth because there's absolutely no reason, there's no platform for his approaching me.
And the way that he started to is just acting out of his own needs and his own falling off the wagon and that kind of thing.
But he was quite persistent, and then he became quite belligerent as if I had insulted him, as if I was insulting him by turning him down over and over again and trying to ignore him and just go on about my business.
art bell
Okay, we don't have much time here.
unidentified
Okay, but it was, I woke up and I was struggling to wake up because I was asleep and this presence was coming on me and I saw it.
I was coming up out of sleep, you know, to I was warned by this presence coming and he was like, and he was laying down on top of me.
art bell
Yeah, I was about to say that it sounds like this person is getting to a dangerous state, and obviously it got to a dangerous state.
unidentified
Oh, yeah, and I had to, and I had to verbally, I had to struggle to get my voice out and to say, no, get out of here, and to command him to leave.
But you know what?
After it happened, and it was such a strong experience, I realized I remembered that I had had that experience some number of years ago.
art bell
A lot of times, okay, I appreciate your call.
A lot of times that can open it.
Yeah, having a conscious experience can open the door to allow you to remember other experiences that you may have had that you blocked.
That can certainly occur.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Hi.
art bell
Hi.
unidentified
Yeah, I was surprised I finally got through.
Actually, the incident that happened happened to my ex-fiancé about four or five years ago, I guess.
Yes, sir.
But what it started from is that my family, when I was little, they used to say that we had a guardian ghost, so to speak, that was kind of like a family ghost that always hung around our parents and everything for years growing up.
And as a child, I thought it was just some sort of children's tale just to keep me in line, so to speak.
And they referred to him as George.
But then when I moved out of the house, it seemed like he kind of followed wherever I went and never had any weird stuff happen around my parents' house anymore.
And every girlfriend that I had, and if it seemed like he didn't approve of her, he would try to do different things to try to scare her off, like messing with electricity, doing alternating lights, going off and on in the apartments and stuff.
art bell
Sounds like a polar dice.
unidentified
Yeah, but he would never do anything to me.
I mean, he tried to push me out of the shower one time, but that was the only thing physical or violent that he did towards me.
But there were several times where my ex-fiancé would wake me up in the middle of the night.
I hear her just whispering pretty much and saying that she couldn't move and felt like somebody was pinning her down.
And she was pinned.
And she had told me on several other different occasions that whenever I wasn't there, that would happen on a routine basis.
And it just eventually freaked her out to the point where she ended up breaking up with me.
And I haven't heard from her since.
But it was pretty odd.
But then probably about just a few months after that, then the encounters, I guess you say, with George stopped altogether after that, too.
art bell
How did you handle all of that information?
unidentified
Well, I thought it was kind of humorous at first because I'd already experienced a lot of pranks and stuff that George had done pretty much my whole life.
Messing with lights and doors and pushing people around and whatnot.
But pinning people down, I was kind of standoffish about it.
art bell
Yeah, that moves off into kind of a different category, huh?
unidentified
Yeah, like he was getting a little bit malicious about it, you know?
art bell
Yeah, exactly.
And that's, again, the point that I want to punctuate, and that is that, God bless them.
All of these researchers into out-of-body and astral travel and all the rest of it really tend to come down on the goody-goody worm and fuzzy side.
I just don't think that's the nature of it personally.
That's just one person's opinion.
I think that it is a neutral force and that like all things, it has a yin and a yang, a positive and a negative.
And you're hearing about the negative tonight.
You're hearing from people who have experienced the negative and so they know.
And that is some evidence, certainly, indicating that I might be right and that these horses are not one single thing and are not always warm and fuzzy at all or not even close.
East of the Rockies, you're on here.
Hello.
unidentified
Hi, Art.
This is Elena from New Haven.
art bell
From New Haven?
unidentified
Yeah.
Okay.
art bell
Yes, Connecticut, of course.
unidentified
And I don't know, I guess for the past 10 years, every now and then, when I'm just about ready to wake up, I'll have this, well, I'll call it a dream, but it feels a lot more physical of an entity, a real evil entity, tickling me in a very Violent way.
art bell
Tickling you.
unidentified
Yeah.
Well, his hands will be holding me very firmly, and I feel like totally helpless.
And it's a very violent tickling.
It's not a good thing.
It's not funny.
art bell
Yeah, I hear that.
unidentified
And it's not a rape, like the other women said, but yet it feels like a violation.
art bell
Of course it's a violation.
unidentified
And a couple of times I've heard a very deep, like demonic laugh.
And one time I heard it say, I never see it.
I just feel it.
You know, I feel its presence.
And one time I heard it say, how do you like this?
And I'm just terrified.
I'm completely terrified.
And I finally, you know, force myself to totally wake up.
And unlike a nightmare where even though it can be terrifying and you might be sweating, you still know it was a nightmare.
art bell
Yes, that's a very interesting subject in itself.
unidentified
This feels more physical, you know.
art bell
I hear you.
So you're really sure, there's no question in your mind, it wasn't a dream.
unidentified
I really don't think so.
I could almost still feel his hands on me afterwards, you know, and it just feels like a very malevolent, you know, entity or something.
Although I do pray.
art bell
Yeah, I was going to ask you, what are you trying?
What are you going to do?
unidentified
Well, I meditate.
I pray a lot.
art bell
And still it happens.
unidentified
Every now and then, yeah.
Yeah.
art bell
All right.
Well, I think that, thank you very much.
I think these investigators hopefully are listening tonight.
And the next time I interview one of them, perhaps they'd be willing to comment on those kind of stories we're getting tonight.
Probably not.
Or perhaps they would suggest, well, it's active imaginations.
And you can always say that, right?
Welcome to the Rockies.
You're on air.
Hello.
unidentified
Hello.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
How are you doing tonight?
art bell
I'm all right.
How are you?
unidentified
I'm fine, thank you.
I'm Steve from Salt Lake City.
art bell
All right, Steve.
unidentified
I just thought I'd share with you guys the story.
I heard the lady say earlier that she hadn't had too many gentlemen call in.
art bell
That's true.
unidentified
So I thought I'd share this one with you guys tonight.
art bell
All right.
unidentified
Well, first of all, since I remember when I was young, being real sick, and my mother went out for the night, and I'm the youngest of three girls, so I was in the bedroom, and they kept leaving me in the bedroom, and I can remember screaming, you know, and yelling and crying because these little creatures, whatever they were, were coming out the closet, and they kept coming out the closet and pulling all the blankets off me.
art bell
Oh, really?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
And my sisters, they come in there, and they'd be kicked off at me because, you know, they quit kicking the covers off the bed, you know, you're going to get in trouble.
I'm going to call mom.
And I'm like, you know, I can really remember those, you know, about three of them just coming out the closet and doing that.
And I remember being real scared of that.
art bell
It's extremely important not to leave closets open when you go to bed.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
And since then, you know, I asked my mom what they were, and she said that the witch would be riding me because I'd get this feeling that, you know, not being able to breathe.
And my eyes would be open.
I didn't see anything, but I couldn't breathe, and I couldn't move, and I'd be struggling.
It felt like if I didn't twitch a finger or a toe or something that, you know, it'd be over with, you know.
And that still happens to me, you know, even now today, you know, every once in a while when I go to sleep, that happens.
And one particular time when I was asleep, I remember that happened to me.
And I woke up and I actually had scratches on my chest when I woke up.
And, you know, I was like, wow, you know, I know where the bees come from, but, you know, like I said, I've never seen anything.
But I've certainly, you know, been handled physically by them several times.
art bell
Well, sir, there are things in this world, thank you, that we see.
We don't see, is what I meant to say, but nevertheless are certainly there.
These things are there.
They're as real, as I used to say in Dreamland, as the air we breathe.
It's just that we're not conscious of them.
And I thought that Donna Goodheadby last night really put it very, very succinctly and well with regard to what all of this might be and what it all might mean.
And I don't have a lot of time here, but Wildcard Line, you're on the air.
Good morning.
unidentified
Good morning, Mr. Bell.
art bell
Hi, only got a minute here, so let her fly.
unidentified
Okay, sir.
What about the Gulf Stream is shifting?
I was prediction 86 on last year's show.
art bell
The Gulfstream, sir, is not exactly...
It's not shifting, but what it's doing is it's slowed by about 40%.
Actually, it's the North Atlantic drift we're talking about here.
It's slowed by about 40%, and that's really significant.
That's going to have a lot to do with the future of Europe's weather, which could become very cold indeed.
unidentified
Yes, I read your book, The Coming Global Superstorm, and that was my prediction on last year's show.
And I'm afraid it may be coming to us.
I'm afraid my prediction may be, if not this year, maybe next.
art bell
I'm afraid your prediction indeed may be right on the money.
And now you can look forward to Made for Television movie and a major motion picture that's going to be done based in part on the Global Superstorm by Roland Emmerich, who did Independence Day.
unidentified
I'm looking forward to that very much, sir.
Have a good weekend.
art bell
You have a good weekend, too, and tell everybody out there good night.
unidentified
Thank you.
Good night.
art bell
That's the way to do it.
All right.
Here's the song that Crystal Gale sang for me.
The high desert.
unidentified
Good night.
Good night in the desert, shooting stars across the sky.
This magical journey will take us on a ride filled with the longing, searching for the truth.
We make it till tomorrow for the sun to shine on you.
Midnight in the desert, and we're listening.
Less than you.
Midnight in the desert, and there's wisdom in the air.
I've been looking for the answers.
All my life I found you there as the world we live in quickens.
Are we heating all the signs?
Have we lost our intuition?
Are we running out of time?
Midnight in the desert.
I'm listening.
I'm listening to you.
I'm listening to you.
And we're listening.
I listen to you I listen to you I listen to you I listen to you Well, we finally got the whole thing in.
art bell
All right, good night, everybody, once again.
And listen, next week, beginning of the week, we've got a guest coming on, and the subject is anti-gravity.
He believes he's stumbled into it, invented it.
Coming up.
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