Art Bell’s May 24, 2002 open lines explore eerie phenomena: a London bouncer’s death linked to non-human DNA, callers describing shadowy entities like Mothman and "nikivas," and a "phantom rape" involving paralysis. Listeners report astral projection anomalies—including sexual advances from a "Wolfman" entity, violent tickling attacks, and unseen forces pinning victims down—while Bell ties them to repressed trauma or substance abuse. A caller’s Gulf Stream slowdown prediction aligns with his Global Superstorm theory, warning of climate chaos. The episode underscores how taboo paranormal experiences may reveal deeper, often terrifying realities beyond conventional science. [Automatically generated summary]
From the high desert in the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening, good afternoon, good morning, whatever it may be, wherever you are, because we're everywhere.
This is Coast to Coast AM, and I'm Art Bell, and tonight is Open Lines all the way through.
Now, I did solicit ideas from all of you out there about what tonight might be.
And we've got about three winners, in my estimation.
I really like this idea.
I've never done this before.
But Marianne Ludwig of Haldale, California writes, Kmart, I've got an idea for a topic tonight.
How about verifiable predictions for the next six weeks?
She says to 90 days.
I'm thinking she's so right, but let's hold it to six weeks.
Predictions the next six weeks.
Far enough in the future to bring little anticipation, but soon enough to get some satisfaction.
And certainly some attention.
Here's my prediction.
Within three weeks, there'll be a major terror attack on a U.S. military installation in Germany in retaliation for the speech that Bush made there yesterday.
That's a lot of retaliation.
It'll involve, she says, a truck, nuclear waste materials.
It'll not be successful as the terrorists intend it to be, but some damage will be done.
Germans will then realize that Bush was right and will reluctantly rally to fight terrorists within the U.S. Also, she says, did you hear about the man who found a huge footprint in a granite rock near Ramona, California?
He was hunting for gold and found the footprint instead.
Local Los Angeles News ran a very short piece on it, but there was a shot of the man putting his foot inside the footprint, and it dwarfed his bare foot.
So, number one, we will take predictions for something you think will occur in the next six weeks.
And I will record your prediction and assign it a number.
Now, I don't know how you reach into your inner self.
You know more about that than I do.
To try and discern something in the very near term.
Six weeks, that's not very much time, is it?
So we'll have a chance to see how the audience does in a real short-term blast of predictions.
And I thought that would be absolutely fascinating.
Right on, Marianne.
Then number two.
This comes from S.G. Lee, who would simply like an open line session on encounters with monsters.
Now, I'm all for it.
So if you have ever actually, I don't want to hear about your friend's encounter or your mom's encounter or your dad's encounter.
I want first person monster encounter stories.
All right, first person.
If it happened to you.
If it happened to you, some friends, even better.
But if it happened to you, I want a first-person story if you have ever encountered what you would call a monster.
And now I've got one more.
This is kind of interesting, I think.
Let's see, it's Odia?
O-D-I-Y-Y-A.
I'm not sure how you'd pronounce that.
It says, hello, Art.
I think that perhaps you ought to have a special line, open line, for people who have had sexual encounters with demons, spirits, or aliens.
A few years ago when I was in college, I remember being awakened by a feeling of having someone lying down next to me.
At first, nothing but terror, and I hesitated to look over my shoulder.
However, after a few minutes, I decided to confront the being or whatever it was next to me in my bed.
Oh, my God.
When I turned, I saw nothing there.
Yet there was a depression on the bed where the body should have been.
At this point, I felt a hand gently touch and caress my face, and I froze in absolute panic, couldn't move.
I tried to run and scream, but I could do neither.
It was then that some kind of force pushed me down on my bed and proceeded to remove my underwear and have sex with me.
Technically, this was rape.
Although I never saw it as such until recently, I don't feel I was raped.
I don't really know what to think of the experience.
I'd be interested in knowing how many other people have had similar experiences.
And for the record, I never use drugs, alcohol, nor any mind-altering substances.
I'm a highly reliable and trustworthy person now.
I think that I would like to ask, I understand this is way out on a limb.
However, I think it's a reasonable question to ask, in fact, a very reasonable question to ask for two reasons.
Number one, anybody involved in law enforcement will quickly tell you that the number of sexual assaults, rapes, you know, in the real world that are reported are very, very low.
Women, for some reason, well, obviously, the obvious reason, embarrassment and shame and all those things, they don't report sexual assaults.
That's number one.
I mean, they just don't.
Only a tiny percentage get reported.
But then there's even a more compelling reason, in my estimation.
If you talk to anybody who is a researcher into abductions, they will tell you that of those cases that they have reviewed, a very high percentage involve sexual misconduct on the part of the intruder.
So it's kind of a double whammy.
Number one, even in the real world, they don't get reported.
And certainly in the world of abductions, the odds that somebody would report something like this pretty remote, I would say, wouldn't you?
And so I thought, you know, it's a very edgy kind of question to ask this audience, but I thought I would anyway.
I wonder how many women out there have had sexual experiences with the unknown.
A demon, a force, an alien.
Who knows?
Really, in the end, we assign names to these things, aliens or demons or spirits or ghosts.
We assign names and words to these entities, right, based probably on our own perceptions, unless we have some little green guy who points to a particular star and says, that's where I'm from.
Otherwise, an encounter of this sort really can only be told.
You're not necessarily going to know who your assailant was.
But I thought I would ask the question, see if anybody bravely would like to step forward and talk about that.
I know it's a high percentage item on the list of things that occur to people in abductions and these kinds of encounters.
It's just that people don't talk about it.
Well, we will hear.
All right, this is interesting.
We had a power situation earlier today at the house, so let me get my thunder in order here, and then we'll look around the world a little bit, and then we'll review what we're going to talk about in Open Lines one more quick time, and then we'll do it.
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Coast to Coast AM A quick look around at the world's news.
But I think there is a dividing line there, and short of people who must fly for some compelling personal reason and business people that must fly, recreational flying, you know, just let's get on a plane and go down to Mazitlan or something like that.
That kind of flying, there's not a lot of it going on.
And of course, airlines are suffering because of that, and that's all because of 9-11 and all the new security.
And that's not really going to, I don't see how that's going to change.
I just don't see.
Do you?
Oh my, what's going on with the FBI?
An FBI whistleblower alleges FBI headquarters rewrote Minnesota agents' pre-September 11 request for surveillance and search warrants for terrorism defendant Zacharias Missouri and removed important information before rejecting them.
Agent Colleen Rowley wrote that the Minnesota agents became so frustrated by roadblocks erected by terrorism supervisors in Washington that they began to joke that FBI headquarters was becoming an unwitting accomplice to Osama bin Laden's efforts to attack the U.S. Oh my God.
That is real heat.
That's real heat.
We're going to have to watch that story very carefully.
The Justice Department said Friday, it's going to fight a judge's ruling that banned the department from interfering in any way with an Oregon law that allows doctors to help terminally ill people kill themselves.
So this one's going to stay in court.
President Bush with Pulton, and they're having nuclear discussions, and it looks like they've cut a deal, and that's a good thing.
We can certainly afford fewer nukes.
No question about that.
Many fewer nukes.
So anything they can do there is really good.
Now, potentially reaching out to spoil the agreement, before the ink gets dry, is the fact that Russia continues to deal nuclear stuff to Iran.
And, you know, we've said to them, keep selling it to Iran, pretty dumb.
You're going to see some of what you have been selling to them aimed at you.
There are ongoing discussions about what's going to happen if the U.S. is attacked again by some weapon of mass terror, you know, biological, chemical, nuclear, whatever.
I'm sure there's some very quiet conversations going on between the two, and I'll bet you President Bush is telling Putin: look, you and your country had better be prepared for the possibility of the use of tactical nuclear weapons.
And we had better come to some sort of understanding that it doesn't turn into World War III if this should occur.
And I bet a large amount of money that conversation is going on.
Well, now here's one for you.
This morning on Paul Harvey, May 24th broadcast, Paul Harvey was, I think, the first to report a story now flashing around the world.
Apparently, Scotland Yard was truly confounded this morning.
Outside the Paradise Bar in South London, a bouncer was found stabbed to death lying in a pool of blood.
Scotland Yard swabbed the blood and extracted DNA from it, and the DNA was not human.
Maybe the blood is animal blood, which is the, you know, it's what they're going to look at right now.
I guess they're going to have to send it off.
The Yard's lab is not equipped to analyze such thing.
blood samples are being sent to the veterinary genetics lab at the University of California.
But what...
A bouncer, probably a big guy, is lying dead in a pool, stabbed to death in a pool of his own blood, but the blood is not human.
So I wonder what we're facing there.
And then somebody writes Art as serial killer was involved in Levy's death, Chandra Levy, and one of his victims was, in fact, found in the Potomac River.
It was on extra TV tonight.
I don't know about that.
Now, the prediction was specifically to Chandra Levy's body, right?
However, I would not say that Ed Dames has missed anything yet because even the police chief of Washington, D.C. was dumbfounded that they had not found the body earlier.
And he said, look, one of the reasons is because it might not have been there.
So I'd still keep this in a really open box.
And then I got so many of these art.
Crazy, even for here.
It's noon today and snowing in Denver.
30 degrees.
Somebody else in Colorado says, burning.
Art, we agree.
The sun feels different.
Now, this was from last night.
I've always spent a lot of time in the sun.
I have dark skin and tan darkly.
I've never had much problem with sunburns.
We live in Colorado and the atmosphere is thin, of course.
But the other day, I was running my dog, and I tell you, the sun felt like it was searing my skin.
I know it's not my imagination.
I also constantly have this feeling that things are becoming sterile.
I don't know how to explain it.
My customers have often said the sun just feels more intense.
Or this.
Art, I thought I was losing my mind or succumbing to paranoia until I heard you last night talking about the strangeness of the sun.
For about a year, I've had the feeling that the sun, even here in the middle of Manhattan, feels odd, too big, too white, too hot, and frankly, in the wrong place.
I don't know any other way to describe it.
Even sunglasses do not offer enough protection on many days now.
I found myself shielding my eyes, crossing the street to get into the shade.
The sun literally seems to be too low in the sky.
There are days when one can hardly see if one is walking into the sun, so to speak.
Fascinated and just a little bit disturbed.
And then this art, I'm a painter of watercolors.
The light and the quality of the light are what I notice.
It's what painters key into light, shadow.
I too have noticed the sun is more white and less yellow.
The light striking the skin is more penetrating.
Sometimes it feels just like needles.
I've also noticed the sun penetrates and heats up my mattress, even though the outside ambient temperature is not that high.
I've been wondering for a while what's going on, and I just can't help remembering what Ed Dames said about the sun.
And I thought right on and on and on and on.
It just goes, here's another one.
I'm a photographer and extremely aware of light variations.
Thank you for bringing up the changing light of the sun and for all the good work you do.
You're very welcome.
So a landslide of emails, people agreeing that the nature, the color, the feel, the intensity of the sun is changing.
All right.
We'll break here at the bottom of the hour and I'll briefly touch on what we're going to talk about tonight.
To remind you, going into tonight, and you can use any line.
I don't have any special line set up for all of this, so you can roaring in on any line you want.
It's open lines, but we have three suggestions with regard to what might be discussed tonight.
One would be a monster encounter discussion.
Any of you have had encounters with what you would call a monster.
Well, that was a pretty good one, actually.
And then this is awfully good, and that's anybody who wants to really stick their psychic neck out and will take a prediction for you and number it, and it'll be for the next six weeks.
Something major you think is going to occur in the world in the next six weeks.
And then the real touchy one.
Pardon the unintended fun, but sexual encounters with demons or with entities.
I don't know.
Aliens, demons.
There's so many names, ghosts, whatever names we assign to these things that seem to be.
Many, many sexual encounters.
Anybody wanting to step forward?
Anonymously, of course, on this program.
So that's what we're about this night.
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We're about to go.
Welcome to Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from May 24, 2002.
Music All right, into the unknown of the night we plunge.
Now, with regard to the predictions for the next six weeks, I think some misunderstood.
This is not just a, if you want to make it a prediction about terrorism, fine, but I was not asking specifically for that.
I want to be clear.
If you want to stick your psychic neck out and make a prediction about any large event that's going to occur, you know, until yes is on everybody's mind, right?
But it doesn't have to be about that specifically at all.
Any big event as something you think will come true in the next six weeks, then I'll record it and we'll find out short term how good y'all are.
Now, don't just throw something into the wind.
In other words, if you have a strong psychic sense that this event is going to occur, then pick up the telephone line.
Don't just call to hear your voice on the air.
We really want to get some predictions down that have a really good chance of coming true.
And the best way to do that is to ask you not to be frivolous, you know, not to frivolously make any prediction, but to think it through and to somehow, with some sort of knowing, that's what it's all about, right, recite your prediction.
Anyway, I was going to tell you that this is Bob from LA, but here in Ceno, you remember the vice president was stating that we, first of all, when we started out back, everybody was screaming at Bush, stating that he dropped the ball.
So now they're telling us everything.
And what the Vice President stated is that we may have some attacks on America, and here and there.
And he said, apartment building's blowing up.
Well, right after he said that, today here we're in my neighborhood here in the Atlanta Valley, and one blew up.
There's something missing out of this puzzle Listen, what it is, is that if you were a Palestinian, if you were of Arab extraction in America right now, you wouldn't be having much of an easy time of it, would you?
I mean, you really wouldn't have an easy time of it at all.
You'd be watched.
People would stare at you.
Everybody would be uneasy around you.
And you've really, everybody has got to remember that most of the people of these various of Arab extraction specifically are fine people and do not wish us dead.
You've got to delineate between the average population of the Arab world and the fanatics.
And I'm not suggesting they are few in number.
There are many fanatics who want us dead, D-E-A-D dead.
And so to delineate between the two is impossible for some people.
And so a lot of very innocent people are suffering here in America.
So if you're wondering what's wrong with them, you don't have to wonder very long.
Yeah, so I'm sitting under the moon right here, which I'm thinking just like the same night that I'm talking about.
This is about nine years ago, California.
I like to walk around in the woods a lot by myself, and I was playing a little flute, and I was singing along, and I'm out there for a couple hours the night.
I exercise.
And I sat on a ridge, and it's kind of a horseshoe ridge.
I'm on the highest part of the ridge.
And across the ridge, I'm just sitting there looking.
Well, I'm sorry, back up just slightly.
I look about halfway around this horseshoe, and there's someone coming up over the ridge.
And it shows this, it's a pterodactile that is near a building, and it's absolutely monstrous.
It occurs.
It was photographed during the 9-11 event, and it looks exactly like what you're talking about.
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Oh, so creepy.
So I'm watching this thing, and it goes, the movement is so soft.
It's not using its wings to fly.
It's almost like they're being used to direct it.
And it slowly lifts up in the air, like I said, comes back down, and it does this twice before it gets to the person.
Again, this person is about halfway between me and this thing.
And as it lands next to the person, the person with the flashlight who has been aiming its beam on the ground, the beam of the flashlight, suddenly the flashlight comes up and this person is whipping around.
Like its flashlight is trying to find whatever it thinks is, I mean, I'm speculating this person is feeling this thing because this thing does like eight little, again, touches the ground, lifts up, goes in a circle around this person.
I'm watching it tease this person, and this person is whirling in a circle, trying to see whatever it is.
We'll let the audience digest this one and see what they think.
But it sounds to me like you're lucky to be alive.
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I was wondering, after I heard the Mothman show, the one thing I was really glad of, at first I thought after it happened and it was all done, I thought, oh, the energy coming off of it was so sad.
It was so old.
It was so, God, it was like if you met somebody like feeling those things, you would go over and put an arm around them.
But then I heard your show on The Mothman and the Red Eyes and how people get paralyzed.
We're trying to figure out what to do, and we may route it through our Oregon office.
But the more I think about that, the more I don't want to subject them to the same danger that I'm trying to avoid myself.
So we just don't have it worked out yet.
All I can say is we live in damn dangerous times, and we don't have it figured out yet.
I'm sorry.
Okay?
Thank you very much.
Sorry, I wish I could give you some address.
There will come a time, I hope, and I pray, oh God, I hope so.
But you have to understand that as a national talk show host, people in the media are natural targets.
I mean, that's already been proven.
And somehow I don't think we're done with this.
Like, I kind of thought we were done with it, and then they hit the IMF and the World Bank building.
And I don't know.
I can smell something out there that's going to happen.
I don't know what, but I can smell it.
And so we're hesitant, obviously, to accept that kind of mail.
Moreover, my wife, Ramona, was the one who opened mail for me and then would sort of bring to my attention, you know, some sort of screening process, bring to my attention what seemed important.
And so I'm not about to risk her life, certainly.
And now that I think about it, yeah, I could give the Oregon address, and then they would be exposed to that danger, too.
So not for the moment, and we haven't got it figured out yet.
And listen, we're doing three things specifically tonight.
But of course, open lines and anything in general is fine.
But we're asking anybody out there if they've been sexually attacked by an entity.
And I know that one's way over the edge there, but I'm going to ask it anyway because I know sexual encounters, even in the real world, are not reported for the most part.
And of the sort we're talking about, probably almost never reported.
We're asking anybody who's had an actual first person, just like that young lady in the last hour, a first person experience with a monster to call.
And monster covers a lot of territory, doesn't it?
And then finally, we're taking predictions for the next six weeks only.
Something you think is going to occur very quickly.
Some large event.
Doesn't have to be connected to terrorism.
I know that's on everybody's mind.
How could it not be?
But it doesn't have to involve that at all.
This could be a prediction involving anything at all.
And so when you call, I will give it a number, and within six weeks, we'll know how y'all fared.
So far, very innocuous stuff.
Lakers, he says, in seven.
Sarah Fisher wins the Indy.
You know, not much.
It may be to be a nice, quiet six weeks.
But then again, we haven't taken that many calls yet, have we?
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Anyway, I've tried for several months to get through to you, and I know I've just recently emailed you, and I haven't heard back from you yet, but I'm the educated 40-year-old mother of two.
Yes.
I've had some terrifying experiences, memories that I choose.
So just sort of take a deep breath and tell me what you mean.
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I will, because I believe in you, and I don't know who else to turn to.
I have two things.
One is I was introduced to a nurse in Reno, and I spoke to her one evening, and she told me of a doctor that could help me, that could possibly help me.
And she spoke to him that evening, and I remember this: that he did not want to speak to me over the phone, but he wanted me to call the following morning at his office.
What I will do is take what you send, and I will post it on my website.
If what you send is as you say, with somebody, for example, being dragged through a window in a half-formed state, then trust me when I tell you, we will have no problem believing you at all.
And I guess she went to the wrong person.
Going to a doctor who was up at Area 51 for that many years might not be the best thing for somebody to do.
So you made a big mistake there.
At any rate, send the evidence.
Evidence is really good.
Video evidence is, in fact, really, really good.
I realize that anything can be faked these days.
Nevertheless, video evidence, in my mind, is high on the scale.
But anyway, with all of this ice breaking off, there's so much ice on this continent that the mountains that are 17,000, 19,000 feet, the continent is depressed by the ice.
And if there was no ice, the mountains would be higher than the Himalayas.
I was laying in my hide-a-bed in my front room, and I was there by myself, and I was kind of sleeping, and I heard a noise that sounded like my boyfriend was in the back room, but I'd known he'd already went to work, but I could still hear somebody in the back room, and I sat up, and I called his name.
And nobody answered, so I got out of the bed and I went into the room and looked, and no one was there.
So I went back into the bed again, started to kind of sleep again, but I was still awake, and I heard the noise again, and I said, His name, and I said, This isn't funny.
And then I went back in again just to double-check one of the other rooms because there were like two bedrooms, and no one was in there.
I went back, laid back down, and I heard a noise like it sounded like a pair of man's boots going into my kitchen, coming out of the room and going into the kitchen.
And then I heard pots and pans clanging.
And I said, I know you're here.
And I said his name, and I got up and I walked in the kitchen, and there was nobody there.
So I went back and I laid on my bed again, and a couple of minutes later, I heard the boots coming out of the kitchen, the sound of the boots.
And I opened my eyes and I looked up and I saw it was just a shadow was all it was, of a figure of a man.
And I knew it was a man.
I knew it was a man.
But there was no face, no nothing.
It was the build of a man, like, you know, the spirit of a man.
And it held me down and I could not move.
And it came at my face like it was going to kiss me.
And a gush of air went into my mouth and filled my whole body and my face like I was blowing air.
If people can get the cojones up or whatever it takes, there's going to be a lot of that.
And we're ready.
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Back in the bad old days, in the heat of a summer night, in the land of the dollar bill.
When the town of Chicago died, and they talk about it still.
When a man named Al Capone Tried to make that town his own, and he called his brain to war with the forces of the law, I heard my mom cry so hard to be in the ground.
It's a brown, and the sky is a hazy shade of winter In the sun that you know, it's gonna be a bright and what you've got for you, in the ground, and the time of winter.
And I'll be a hot day.
That's an easy thing to say.
You're not the winter, please pretend that you've been looking at my life.
Seems to change what the scenery we need time in the tempest.
Won't you stop and be listening to Art Bell somewhere in time tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from May 24th, 2002.
It might keep it up there, and then we might get dumped on as it comes back around.
A lot of times, and we might not even be safe from that because a lot of times the jet stream, especially in late years, has been taking this real weird twist where it goes right over Seattle and then curves around right back out into the Pacific and then almost right over our heads here in southern Nevada.
Number one, I would imagine, I would hope, I would pray that nuclear plants would be hardened at least to some degree against that sort of thing.
By nature of the protections they have anyway, I would hope that they would have some protection.
But truly answering your question, sir, I don't have the slightest idea.
It may be they'd freeze, and all the controls, the electronic controls would freeze, and with the obvious ensuing problems.
We're going to have a guest next week on nuclear power, nuclear waste in the age of terrorism.
Now, things have changed, and nuclear power, its place in our society, I think, is not what it was, and it's really a shame in a lot of ways because it's a pretty good source of power as they go.
You know, that being said, there are a lot of attendant problems like, you know, Yucca Mountain right near me.
And then, of course, even more than that, the transportation of it to Yucca Mountain, the amount of waste we have and all the rest of that.
But ultimately, nuclear power would have been one answer for a very needful society with regard to energy.
But my God, since the terrorism has happened, I don't know.
It doesn't make the nuke plants look so good anymore.
Some people use the word ghost, some say entity, some say evil entity, some say alien.
These are just our perceptions.
You know, it's something.
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Well, my comment is I had an out-of-body experience about four years ago in Amarillo, Texas while traveling.
And I was just, you know, that experience was so real to me that I decided to read all the literature I could find on astral projection and out-of-body experiences.
Well, I see exactly, of course, where you're going.
Now, we know that the world is full of all kinds of different people.
And if astral projection is real, which I believe it to be, I've interviewed many people on the subject, then some of the people out there might take sexual advantage of others in that condition, let's face it.
And so that could be one of the things we're talking about here.
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Yes, that was my comment.
I was going to say people could consciously be doing this thing because they have the ability to leave their physical bodies and do such things.
I really appreciate that, and I think you're dead right.
It's something that so many researchers are afraid to talk about.
I mean it.
They're afraid to talk about it.
They're afraid to talk about the darker side of anything.
So many guests that I have on are in kind of a, maybe they feel they have to be, you know, but a touchy-feely kind of new age-y world where all is bright and good and happiness.
And the powers that we discuss on this program, and there are many powers we have discussed, many abilities and powers are, according to many of my guests, never used for anything dark.
Well, I don't buy that.
I've never bought that.
I think that any power, any ability, like everything else that we know about, can be used for good or evil.
And there are plenty of people out there in this world, we all know, who are willing to do mischief.
And if they can do mischief anonymously, and by that I mean rape, molestation, whatever you can imagine, and they can do it anonymously, and you really can leave your body and do these things, then you damn well have to imagine that it's being done, and that might account for some of these stories, and likely does.
It's just that the researchers always like to paint this stuff, and I understand, I guess, why they want to do that, and they don't really want to admit a lot of the people who talk about astral travel will tell you again and again, oh, it is absolutely safe.
I guess politicians have their necks out a little bit on this because, as you point out, for $100,000, they better find something or they're going to get laughed at.
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Well, if I find something new or something, I'll fact you or email you.
It's pretty weird, and it's to the point where people are moving away.
And so, you know, when that begins to occur, obviously you get the attention of politicians who want to know what the hell's going on.
I take his idea, but it just doesn't seem geologically sound to imagine something would resonate through a building, then down into the earth, and be radiated that far.
Art, I've had two sexual encounters with nightly visitors.
The first one around 1993, and I was awakened by a figure standing in my bedroom door.
Because the light over the kitchen sink was on, out in the kitchen, I could see the figure, but no features.
I thought it was my college son coming up from his apartment downstairs to ask if we had anything to eat while he was studying.
I knew immediately it wasn't.
As it started walking across the floor at the end of the bed and came up to me and got on top of me, I was paralyzed, absolutely could not move.
I could feel and hear my heart beating in my chest and could feel the arteries in my neck pulsing.
I could hear my husband sleeping beside me and couldn't figure out why he didn't wake up.
I tried to yell at him to wake him up to help me, but I couldn't speak.
Just when I thought I was going to have a heart attack because I was yelling at this being telepathically that I was going to have a heart attack, he just vanished.
As soon as he vanished, I sat straight up.
My heart was still racing, looked around the room and tried to tell myself that it was only a bad dream.
I never told anybody about it because in my heart I knew it was not a dream.
But I really didn't know what it was.
Then about four years later, I had started sleeping in a guest bedroom because my husband was very ill and I rested better there at about 2 o'clock in the morning.
I had the feeling someone was in my room.
I woke up and there standing at the foot of my bed a large figure.
But this time, I wasn't scared at all because the room was filled with pure love.
It was the best thing I've ever felt in my whole life.
But this figure also came to the side of the bed and proceeded to lie on me.
It was great.
I don't know how I knew this, but I knew he had blonde, wavy, shoulder-length hair, and I kept asking him telepathically, who are you?
I could feel the weight of him on me, but I told myself this must be a dream.
However, I found out this time I was totally paralyzed except my arms.
So, I thought, perhaps if I crossed my arms over my chest, all I would feel would be me.
But I was wrong.
I felt a very broad, muscular back.
Again, I asked, who was he?
All of a sudden, he just vanished.
Then I couldn't move.
I'll never forget that feeling of total unconditional love that filled the room.
And many times I wished he would come back, but never has.
This is the first time I've told anyone I always thought everyone would think I was crazy.
Evelyn, and I will not even read the state that she wrote this from.
Thank you very much, Evelyn.
So that's one of the things we're talking about, kind of an out there on the edge topic, but not really.
Because as I keep saying, even in the regular world out here, folks, people don't report sexual assaults most of the time.
And of course, these sorts of sexual assaults probably are never reported.
But I'll tell you this, the abduction, people know all about it.
They just don't want to talk about it.
And then we're talking about classic monster encounters, if you've had one.
And then finally, we are taking predictions for a very short term period of time, the next six weeks only.
In other words, we're asking you to stick out your psychic neck and give us something astronomical, something big that's going to happen in the world.
Does not have to be terrorist-related at all.
some large event that you believe is going to occur in the next six weeks.
unidentified
Thank you.
Thank you.
You're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from May 24th, 2002.
All righty, I'm calling from Cape Jordan, Missouri.
I happened to hear on Paul Harvey this afternoon that the story about the bouncer in London who was found stabbed to death, but when the lying in a pool of his blood, they thought.
A pool of his blood, and they did DNA tests on the blood and found out that the blood was not human.
And, I mean, you know, I'd always, in my experiences with bouncers, I'd always thought these guys were gorillas anyway, but I mean, this is just a little bit on the ridiculous side.
And unless they find out that it's animal blood and for some reason somebody thought far enough ahead to try and throw everything off, but that still does not seem like it would be very feasible to me.
No, not in the least, but I thought of all the things I've heard recently, and I know you get an awful lot of varied calls on your show, and I listen to it a lot.
I think you do a great job with it, but I mean, for this to be a validated news story.
I mean, here's a guy, a bouncer, big guy, I guess, stabbed in the street, lying in a pool of what should have been his own blood, right?
When you're stabbed when you're alive, you bleed out.
So there's always a pool of blood unless the body's moved.
And it's non-human blood.
So what are the possibilities?
Well, that he was stabbed somewhere else, brought here, dumped, and animal blood was substituted because, you know, after you've been dead for a while, your heart stops, you're not bleeding anymore.
So the body could have been moved and then animal blood added, but that seems pretty exotic stuff, you know, to occur in the street.
You know, a dumping of that sort.
That's one possibility.
Another is that something killed this man that was non-human.
Not likely in London.
And the third possibility is that the victim himself was not human.
And I guess we're going to have to wait for the DNA test.
The first two were in college that disturbed me quite greatly, but at the time, not like the third one.
But anyway, it was an all-girl dorm, all-girl school.
It was a finishing school.
And one night, you know, I had two roommates that had the bedroom, and I was sleeping in the living area on one of the beds, you know, provided by a college dorm.
Anyway, I felt something on me during my sleep, and I could not wake up.
And it was groping me and heading for the area that...
So then the young man that I'd been seeing in my visions appeared, and then the young boy comes out of the corner, and they start going in a circle, and they consume each other, the feet and the mouth of the other, and they start spinning wildly, and then the man threw me over on my all fours, gave it to me in my back.
Now, this is such an incredible story because, you know, I have had, I can't tell you how many guests on the program, and we've talked about the nature of souls and the nature of reincarnation.
And what you just told me about the very young boy that you thought was the aborted boy you had had.
There are, you know, in the psychiatric world, there are Napoleon complexes, but this would be the first intimate, ongoing relationship with Napoleon that I'm aware of being reported.
And I had my first lucid attacks in Idaho Falls, Idaho.
I was camping in my motorhome.
And I went to sleep that night, very peaceful, and woke up with this pressure on my chest and a split perception.
I felt I could describe the outline of what was on me.
It looked like a man in a sidelink leather coat.
And then my perception split again, and I was being pulled up out of my bed.
And I woke up then, and my arm was reached, my body was up, and my arm was reaching, and I just had the feeling that if I hadn't woken, I would have been dragged along with him.
So that freaked me out for that image stayed in my mind for a long time.
Well, you know, again, I've talked to a lot of OBE researchers, and they all know damn well this is a big part of out-of-body experience and research.
It's just a part that they don't talk much about.
They just spend a lot of time telling you how safe it is and all the positive, flowery, beautiful little aspects of it.
And rarely do you hear stories like the ones you're hearing tonight.
You just don't hear them.
But trust me when I tell you, it's an integral part, a very integral part, of these sorts of experiences.
I mean, so much so that it's probably the majority of these kinds of experiences, but it's one of those things that people normally just won't talk about.
And when I was experienced this, you know, what happened was I was completely awakened by this lifting thing.
You know, I couldn't describe it, but just being lifted, it's like not like by a hand, not like by any kind of force.
If I want to say it's like a wind, you know, it's some kind of a wind, if it is.
Well, when I, you know, it goes like very slow, very slow, and I was going up, up, up, and, you know, I have my cover on top of me.
It was on, you know, on top of both of us.
Well, when I look at him and he's sleeping and he's facing the other way and the blanket is, you know, coming off of his body and was going up with me, I was looking at him and I'm looking at, you know, above me and I'm coming closer and closer and closer to the ceiling.
I couldn't say anything.
I couldn't move my body and I don't understand what was going on.
And all this time I was looking at him and I was looking up at the ceiling.
I was looking at him.
I was looking up at the ceiling.
And this blanket completely come off of him.
And when I look up and I knew I was going to hit the ceiling, okay?
An interesting, very interesting place, dear to my heart.
Okay, a friend and I were walking towards the creek, and we were just in a real mellow state of mood and walked up and about waist high below us, because we were kind of up on a ridge, We looked down and we saw something that neither of us could focus on because the brain would not compute what we were seeing.
It wasn't like looking at a glass or something that you're not...
And we were both looking, and all of a sudden, I realized when it came into focus that it was a very small, thin being that had on a black cloak.
But I'll tell you what, one of the most interesting things about that cloak, and of all the experience, this whole experience, that cloak blew my mind because it was the color of the deepest, darkest black that you could imagine.
But it had flecks.
Now, this was in the autumn.
And if you've ever seen Oak Creek Canyon in the autumn, it's just awesome.
Not only the cloak caught my eye, and of course, like I said, not being able to focus on that, like you said, the brain just wasn't computing, so my eyes were wide.
So I go back and fully expecting art, fully expecting that this being was going to be gone for the hills.
We come down.
I said, okay, I'm not going to be up above.
I don't want to be like a one-upmanship, me up here, you down there.
So I noisily came around like I was stomping for a snake, came down and was on the level, walked down the side of the red rocks there, came around and I was facing nothing more than this most beautiful woman sitting in the lotus position.
And she was, again, had all the colors that surrounded the creek at that time.
We walked up and the guy started rattling.
He was nervous, of course.
And he said, we just wanted to talk with you, you know, and I just looked at him and gave like this shh.
And she welcomed us to sit down in the most peaceful, angelic, most beautiful, serene voice.
So we sat down cross-legged in front of her, just as if you were sitting two feet away.
She was beautiful.
And you know what?
I don't know what happened.
We had a lapse of time.
We had no idea.
Once we got up, we both stood up simultaneously, said thank you, and we turned around and walked away.
And it may take hypnotic regression to find out what happened, but boy, oh boy, after what you've told me, I think I'd want to know.
unidentified
Well, you know, I ran into an Indian gal not too long after that, and she had said that, and she was from that area, and their Indian cultures have been there for thousands of years.
And she was like the only person that I did tell, because I said, can you tell me what this might have been that I had seen?
She was a maid at one of the resorts up there.
And never saw her before, never saw her after.
And she said, well, what you've described, you know, they talk about nikivas and stuff.
And generally, the only people that see those are the shamans.
And they haven't seen them for generations and for thousands of years.
They have not been around.
But they call them the keepers of it.
They're like a guard that stands guard between dimensional levels.
The only thing I would have to say to this, and I understand that I'm always over on the perhaps darker side of this than a lot of researchers, but it seems to me that in a lot of cases of abduction,
of examination, and all kinds of things that go on with human beings and whatever these entities are, people describe this wonderful feeling of pure love and all the rest of it.
Well, haven't you all considered that that might be like a narcotic?
That you're being presented or imprinted with a mental image of something that's all warm and lovey and fuzzy, and maybe it is and maybe it isn't.
But that certainly would be the best way to keep you under control, wouldn't it?
Now, she said she didn't remember a thing and there was a lot of missing time.
My advice would be go and get regressed and find out what happened to you if you really want to know.
I just am not so sure that all these researchers are right.
I know that what they do is they report what people say, just like what that young lady had say, about how it felt all warm and fuzzy and world and the warm, embracing love and all the rest of it.
But how do you know, especially after seeing The Matrix, that that's really what happened to you?
It might be kind of like a higher Class narcotic for your brain, something that is presented to you to mask the real horror that's going on.
And I'm not saying that's what's happening.
Maybe it is everything it seems to be all warmness and fuzzy love, but I simply am not convinced.
And most researchers simply won't talk about it.
I mean, they just flat won't talk about it.
And that has always made me wonder.
It really has always made me wonder.
And think that, well, maybe they're just all wrong.
Art, I used to drink every evening until I was sleepy.
One night, I remember going to bed and having terrible dreams of monsters and everything.
When I woke, I was on the floor and I was in pain.
I got up knowing I had a bladder infection because of the discomfort and looked in the mirror and found I had a black eye and marks of a beating on my cheek below.
I went to the bathroom and knew I had been assaulted sexually and very roughly at that.
There was no one in the house except my daughter and I. I checked on her and she was safely asleep.
I checked on the house.
It was secure.
For several days, I had glimpses of demons.
The next day, I went to the doctor, and he verified the bladder infection.
He asked me about sexual activity, and I explained I was celibate.
He didn't press me for any more information, but both of us were uncomfortable at this point.
I quit drinking.
This was a demon attack, and I believe too much booze opened me to this attack.
It was a very strong message.
And believe me, I can still picture the demons who attacked me.
Signed, S. In Texas.
unidentified
Now, we take you back to the past on Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
Well, I was wondering if you've ever heard anyone describe during astral projection, or I guess what you call an out-of-body experience, like have actually being murdered, you know, and being killed on an astral level.
And I have a very strong telepathic connection to this person, and I feel like in some way that he has tried to reach out to me on an astral level, on some kind of subconscious level, to inform me about this, you know?
And I brought it up to him before.
It's very awkward.
I feel like this has happened to me more than once.
And I'm really concerned that I may have seen some things that have happened, and I don't really know how to confirm these things or really what to do about this.
But I was just wondering, you know, what happens if you are killed by someone while you're on the astral level?
I mean, can someone really kill your soul?
I mean, and how does that affect your everyday life?
All I can tell you is what almost every researcher on OBEs has said to me, which I personally don't happen to believe, and that is that you're always safe.
That no matter what would happen to you on the astral plane, if something awful happens, you snap right back into your body.
It's the one thing that I've never completely bought into as far as these researchers are concerned.
unidentified
I don't know how that could really be so.
I mean, because something of that magnitude, I mean, it's going to not only emotionally affect you, but it's going to affect you.
I mean, considering that we are whole beings, you know, as far as our mind, body, and spirit are connected.
You know, I think a lot of people go into, who are new at astral projection or who are not familiar with it, go into looking for some kind of pleasurable sexual experience.
I was just thinking, there's been quite a few of us gals calling in with strange, erotic experiences in the night, but I haven't heard the men calling in as much, and I thought that was rather curious.
Well, it's not in the sense that when a topic catches on, all of a sudden everybody out there who's been afraid to say anything because they felt so alone all of a sudden isn't afraid to say it anymore.
unidentified
Well, I'm still afraid that from hearing some of your other stories tonight, it's been kind of a balm to my spirit because something like that happens to you and you truly, you don't talk about it and you feel possibly that you're the only one.
I was raped, but as I said, I was also mesmerized so that I was raped, but this creature had the ability to be inside my mind and make himself extremely desirable to me.
See, as I've listened tonight to these various stories, I'm beginning to see a connection, I think, between out-of-body or astral travel and the kind of situation you're talking about, and so many others have tonight.
And I know it's going to be a challenge for OBE investigators to really start talking about this, but I think it's time that they did.
unidentified
Well, it's certainly not something like I was seeking.
I wasn't looking on the radio.
I was just, you know, like I say, people just pass the time of day or night, you know, on the dang thing, and I wasn't at all afraid.
Well, the next thing that happens is hours later, this basically art, I have to say, this was a werewolf.
I'm humiliated and appalled and there really were witnesses then, in a way.
unidentified
Well, yeah, at one point, finally, when I came back to myself, I had thrown my arm over and knocked the radio, the base unit, and it just, he disappeared.
But the radio was still on.
And, of course, as soon as I could move and come to my senses, I took my finger off the key.
And the next thing I heard were these two other folks.
And first, it was real quiet.
And it was a woman, an elderly woman.
It sounded like she couldn't sleep either.
And she says, Well, I never.
And then there was this older gent, and he says, I've been listening to this here radio for 40 years, and I ain't never heard nothing like that.
Well, he left me with some kind of a hypnotic, some kind of a post-hypnotic suggestion.
So then, after daylight, that's when I lost my mind, and I got on the radio.
I surfed every channel looking for that creature again.
Well, that's why we have the first time caller line.
unidentified
Well, you know, it's so, you know, when I hear you do these Friday programs and hear these experiences that so many people relate, and I've had so many of them all of my life.
Yeah.
Oh, yes, ever since I was very young, very tiny, out of body, leaving my diestro, projection, you know, all that stuff.
But recently, this phenomenon that has seems to be happening, and mostly it seems to women, with this rape or, you know, all of this stuff.
Well, it has happened to me too, except that I have been able to command the spirit, or whatever you want to call it, to leave.
And how long did it take you to figure out you could do that?
unidentified
Well, I have had to learn over the course of many years to ground myself and that I am a being who needs protection.
Because I say I have come to the earth that way, very open, and I have been having just outrageous experiences since I was a very little girl, and my family recognized that.
As a matter of fact, when I was a toddler, I used to hear my mother and my aunt, their two sisters, talking about me, and they're recognizing all of this stuff about me ever since I was an infant.
Because when I was like four years old at the dinner table, I made every things went flying on the table when all of a sudden, during the middle of dinner, I sat and told everybody exactly what they were doing.
This is the fourth day of my life when I came home from the hospital with my mother and exactly where my bathinet was, what they were all saying, what I was crying about, what they were wearing, and what they were eating and cooking.
Yeah, and so, but this, you know, this lady who just called and was so articulate about speaking about this man who she's acquainted with who has, who seems to have an evil countenance.
Yes.
And I can relate to that because there is a, let's say, gentleman where I work, and I am a music teacher.
He's like a, well, he's a presence in the area that I work in.
And he has been like really, he's kind of like after me periodically.
He has a problem with substance abuse, with alcohol.
So he's like, you know, not in control of himself.
You know, it's kind of interesting that, you know, substance abuse, specifically alcohol, seems to play a part in opening some doors for this sort of thing.
I read an email from a lady about that a little while ago.
unidentified
Absolutely.
And I have noticed it too because, I mean, you know, we witness all kinds of abuse, but alcohol seems to be something where, I don't know, there's just a lot of bad behavior in an everyday basis with alcoholic satisfying, that is associated with alcohol abuse.
Well, I mean, look at what goes on with alcohol in a waking state.
Look what it does to people.
It emboldens them.
It makes them not care about consequences.
And so, if somebody in that state were to move into an OBE state, why should we believe it would be any different?
unidentified
Oh, absolutely.
And this is exactly the case.
I mean, this person, you know, I had to be the mature one and try to keep peace.
I want to, you know, like to keep peace in my workplace, and I'm very happy in what I do.
I'm a musician.
And it's just, you know, and I'm the kind of person who believes that, you know, well, if I'm going to do something, I'm going to enjoy doing it.
You know, work.
You know, I always enjoy my work.
I always have.
But to make a long story short, he's the type of person, of course, with this bad behavior pattern who would not take no for an answer.
And he's also, of course, always acting outside of reason and truth because there's absolutely no reason, there's no platform for his approaching me.
And the way that he started to is just acting out of his own needs and his own falling off the wagon and that kind of thing.
But he was quite persistent, and then he became quite belligerent as if I had insulted him, as if I was insulting him by turning him down over and over again and trying to ignore him and just go on about my business.
Actually, the incident that happened happened to my ex-fiancé about four or five years ago, I guess.
Yes, sir.
But what it started from is that my family, when I was little, they used to say that we had a guardian ghost, so to speak, that was kind of like a family ghost that always hung around our parents and everything for years growing up.
And as a child, I thought it was just some sort of children's tale just to keep me in line, so to speak.
And they referred to him as George.
But then when I moved out of the house, it seemed like he kind of followed wherever I went and never had any weird stuff happen around my parents' house anymore.
And every girlfriend that I had, and if it seemed like he didn't approve of her, he would try to do different things to try to scare her off, like messing with electricity, doing alternating lights, going off and on in the apartments and stuff.
Well, I thought it was kind of humorous at first because I'd already experienced a lot of pranks and stuff that George had done pretty much my whole life.
Messing with lights and doors and pushing people around and whatnot.
But pinning people down, I was kind of standoffish about it.
And that's, again, the point that I want to punctuate, and that is that, God bless them.
All of these researchers into out-of-body and astral travel and all the rest of it really tend to come down on the goody-goody worm and fuzzy side.
I just don't think that's the nature of it personally.
That's just one person's opinion.
I think that it is a neutral force and that like all things, it has a yin and a yang, a positive and a negative.
And you're hearing about the negative tonight.
You're hearing from people who have experienced the negative and so they know.
And that is some evidence, certainly, indicating that I might be right and that these horses are not one single thing and are not always warm and fuzzy at all or not even close.
And I don't know, I guess for the past 10 years, every now and then, when I'm just about ready to wake up, I'll have this, well, I'll call it a dream, but it feels a lot more physical of an entity, a real evil entity, tickling me in a very Violent way.
Well, first of all, since I remember when I was young, being real sick, and my mother went out for the night, and I'm the youngest of three girls, so I was in the bedroom, and they kept leaving me in the bedroom, and I can remember screaming, you know, and yelling and crying because these little creatures, whatever they were, were coming out the closet, and they kept coming out the closet and pulling all the blankets off me.
And my sisters, they come in there, and they'd be kicked off at me because, you know, they quit kicking the covers off the bed, you know, you're going to get in trouble.
I'm going to call mom.
And I'm like, you know, I can really remember those, you know, about three of them just coming out the closet and doing that.
It's extremely important not to leave closets open when you go to bed.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
And since then, you know, I asked my mom what they were, and she said that the witch would be riding me because I'd get this feeling that, you know, not being able to breathe.
And my eyes would be open.
I didn't see anything, but I couldn't breathe, and I couldn't move, and I'd be struggling.
It felt like if I didn't twitch a finger or a toe or something that, you know, it'd be over with, you know.
And that still happens to me, you know, even now today, you know, every once in a while when I go to sleep, that happens.
And one particular time when I was asleep, I remember that happened to me.
And I woke up and I actually had scratches on my chest when I woke up.
And, you know, I was like, wow, you know, I know where the bees come from, but, you know, like I said, I've never seen anything.
But I've certainly, you know, been handled physically by them several times.
Well, sir, there are things in this world, thank you, that we see.
We don't see, is what I meant to say, but nevertheless are certainly there.
These things are there.
They're as real, as I used to say in Dreamland, as the air we breathe.
It's just that we're not conscious of them.
And I thought that Donna Goodheadby last night really put it very, very succinctly and well with regard to what all of this might be and what it all might mean.
And I don't have a lot of time here, but Wildcard Line, you're on the air.
I'm afraid your prediction indeed may be right on the money.
And now you can look forward to Made for Television movie and a major motion picture that's going to be done based in part on the Global Superstorm by Roland Emmerich, who did Independence Day.