Donna Good Higbee explores spontaneous human invisibility (HSII), where 1,400+ cases—like Vera’s post-office vanishing or a 70-year-old woman’s unnoticed presence—suggest people become unseen during altered states, often regaining visibility through emotional reactions. Linked to rising Schumann resonance and NASA’s 1994 findings on solar light shifts, Higbee theorizes HSII stems from vibrational frequency changes, possibly tied to Earth’s electromagnetic restructuring, even as skeptics dismiss claims like a "Zimbabwe deputy minister" scam. Cases with photographic evidence (e.g., transparent partygoers, missing security footage) and altered time perception challenge conventional explanations, hinting at dimensional or energy-based phenomena. Higbee’s upcoming book, HSII Experiences and Theory, aims to document these unsettling yet potentially transformative shifts in human consciousness. [Automatically generated summary]
I'm Art Bell, and it's called Coast to Coast A.M. And it is certainly not in much more heard all over the world, actually.
We would like to welcome a new affiliate tonight, KONP, in Port Angeles, Washington.
There's an interesting name in Port Angeles, Washington.
The GMNPD there, Todd.
Hello, thank you very much.
Glad to have you on board, whatever it is here you've joined.
First of all, first things first, I would like to tell you Ramona is much better.
The combination of Theopolin, Mygnosone, and Oxygen did the trick, and she just, you know, everything kicked in, and she just snapped back today.
Still kind of weak, but absolutely over the crisis, which was a humdinger.
So for everybody who sent well wishes and everything, she says big thank you.
Great, big thank you.
She's much better.
Much, much better.
Okay, in the next hour, we're going to actually be doing something that I've been wanting to do for some time now.
There was this incredible woman who wrote this many-page article on spontaneous human invisibility named Donna Higbee.
And somebody forwarded what she had written to me, which was very extensive, on the web.
Someone forwarded it to, we did a whole show on it.
And we couldn't find Donna Higbee.
Well, we found Donna Higbee.
And as far as I know, she is the only one that I'm aware of that's doing this kind of research.
And she's doing a lot of it.
And there's a lot.
This is a very, very, very interesting subject.
So coming up next hour, Donna Higby on spontaneous, involuntary, most times, human invisibility.
I'll tell kind of an interesting story about that.
Actually, a couple.
Well, let's see what's going on in the world.
Well, I told you I smelled a rat on the Chandra Levy thing.
Well, today the police chief of Washington, D.C. said aloud, well, you know, why wasn't the body found when we did all the extensive searching?
And he said, perhaps it wasn't there when we did the searching.
So that's certainly one possibility before I guess we go jumping to any conclusions.
It just didn't strike me right last night.
They said it as though it was the only thing that could be here.
It was.
It's finally found.
Today, the people involved began to also apparently smell a rat.
So the book stays open on the whole Chandra Levy thing.
Listen to this.
An FBI agent accused her Washington headquarters of erecting a roadblock, that's the word, to the pre-September 11th investigation of terrorism, defendant Zacharias of Missouri.
Immediately prompting an internal investigation, get this.
Agent Colleen Raleigh, R-O-W-L-E-Y, a lawyer in the Minnesota office that arrested that terrorist last August, alleged terrorist, I guess, said in a letter that local agents became, listen to this, so frustrated with FBI headquarters that they broke from their chain of command and went to the CIA about that suspect before September 11th.
The local agents were reprimanded for doing it.
She said in a letter directed to the FBI director and then on to the Senate Intelligence Committee.
So there's still a lot to be told about what went on before September 11th, apparently.
But there's an awful lot bubbling under the surface.
I, for one, personally, believe there is, even if they had warnings, and they had a million warnings about a million things all the time, unless they have more extensive knowledge than we have yet seen, I don't, you know, I'm not laying the blame yet, but this is a developing story, and you never can tell where it's going to go.
So, you know, kind of like Chandra Leady, you've got to leave that one in Stan's gray box or in the open somewhere, right?
Let's see, a bomb attached to a tanker truck blew up near a huge fuel depot in Tel Aviv.
It just goes on and on and will go on and on and on.
Listen, we are being bombarded tonight.
Several hours ago, a huge geomagnetic storm got underway following a coronal mass ejection which hit Earth's magnetic field more or less right square.
And so we are, if you're a Sky Watcher, you know, if you're in a northern latitude, you absolutely are going to be treated to a light show probably going on right now.
I would expect in northern latitudes and perhaps depending on the strength of the storm as it develops, you know, this is a big boom to Earth.
You may even see corona as far south as mid-latitudes.
So anybody from about the central part of the country on up ought to keep their eyes out for a light show tonight, right now.
Well, it began as a low hum, hardly noticeable.
But within months, the endless throbbing was like a corkscrew twisting into Diane Anton's temples.
The walls of her home vibrated, the bed shook, bouts of nausea, short-term memory loss, and hand tremors followed.
This is all you might know in Kokomo, Indiana, quoting, the noise was so penetrating and invasive, she said, and it just wasn't getting better, end quote.
So she abandoned her job, $180,000 house.
She just flat took off.
She was the first person driven out of the city by what's come to be known as the Kokomo Hum.
But indeed, she may not be the last.
As many as 90 people in that town are complaining about a low-frequency hum, and it's been going on for three years, according to the city attorney there.
Now, while most residents didn't hear a thing beyond the typical sounds of the city's factories and roads, the city council, get this folks, has now approved a $100,000 study of the mysterious noise, often described as the constant idol of a tractor trailer's diesel engine.
the The The representative of the city said, well, you know, we've decided rather than sit on our dust and talk about it, let's try and do something.
The city intends to request proposals for the study by the end of the month.
Those who suffer the hum and have had to educate themselves about low-frequency sound say, it's about time.
It's about time.
They point evidence grounded in science.
The exposure to constant low-frequency noise can cause vibroacoustic disease.
It has symptoms that mirror the ailments of those that the people in Kokomo are raising hell about, nausea, headaches, dizziness, to name just a few.
And now, as you know, there was also the Taos Hum.
You know, what do you think this might be?
Could it be our military doing something way underground, boring, doing something deep, boring of some sort?
But, you know, this stuff has been going on for years now.
We've even had a case of it here in my valley.
I had a friend who had a house.
I've told this story, and he had a porch.
And when he put the porch in, now bear in mind, we're just over the hill from Area 51.
When he put the porch in, the vibration and the hum was so bad that nobody could sleep in the house.
This is a good friend of mine, all first person here, folks.
It was so bad they couldn't sleep in the house.
He and his Russian bride.
They couldn't sleep.
Things vibrated.
Things fell off tables.
What he ended up doing was unconstructing the porch, knocking the whole thing, damn thing down.
So there's something unusual going on below ground.
I have no idea what it is.
It could be connected to our military.
It could be connected to something really strange.
Who knows?
but in kokomo uh...
maybe they'll find a hundred thousand dollars into the wind to try and find out what's causing the trouble below ground Amen.
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You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from the 23rd of May, 2002.
Boy, we do live in a weird world, don't we, folks?
This occurred in Ferguson, Missouri, what I'm about to tell you.
It just occurred in Ferguson, Missouri.
Police there in Ferguson are investigating a rather bizarre case.
As many as 40 animal eyeballs, that's right, eyeballs only were found scattered in four back yards.
When Ahmad and Bianca Comer went out to play, they found the eyeballs in their yard.
The medical examiner's office tells a local station there, the eyes are from cows.
Hmm, some were also found Tuesday night in the yards of three neighbors.
Police think the eyes may have come from a meat packing plant or perhaps a school lab.
But they don't know.
They don't know.
They don't think it's a case of animal abuse, but eyeballs everywhere.
Now, you could imagine a lot of things, couldn't you, from something like that, I suppose?
I mean, what's always missing, maybe I'm reaching a little bit here, but I mean, what's always missing after a cow abduction, a cow mutilation of some sort, huh?
Right on up there near number one, eyeballs.
Eyeballs are missing.
So maybe those who continually dissect cows had an overage of eyeballs or had finished their work on the eyeballs and just did an eyeball dump.
I have no idea.
But we'll find out.
With regard to my stance on terrorism and the use of tactical nuclear weapons, I thought I would read you a typical response on the negative side.
You know, it comes in about half and a half.
This is the kind of thing that I get, though.
Now, he starts out, greetings.
You've earned yourself levels of hell, Art Bell, by promoting the use of nuclear weapons for the CIA.
Well, you know, actually I didn't do that.
I did promote the use of tactical nuclear weapons in certain specific areas.
Actually, I would never, I'm just a talk host.
I wouldn't make judgment about where they're best used.
But yes, I did say that.
I certainly didn't say for the CIA.
Anyway, he goes on to say, I can't even begin to tell you of the pain and suffering that you will endure come Judgment Day for the outright slaughter you are helping to promote.
For your information, the U.S. is a number one terrorist nation on earth and will be forcibly thrown down into the pit of hell when the Lord's fury and wrath arrive soon.
We will overthrow those whom you, meaning me, serve completely when the time comes.
They will not prevail against us.
The Satanists you serve shall be totally wiped off from the face of the planet.
Come judgment day.
That day draws ever closer.
It will be a day of darkness.
Wow.
Thanks for the cheery little letter there.
That's kind of typical.
You know, actually, that sounds like JC on paper, doesn't it?
You sound like JC on paper.
And then finally, there's this.
We're about to do a show.
If you know anything about human invisibility, it'd be nice to have you call in the first segment here.
I realize that's a lot to ask for, you know.
But listen to this.
This just arrived tonight.
Subject email.
Invisible me.
Mr. Bell, first thanks for the many varied subjects you bring forth out of the shadows.
I've worked nights for 24 years, so your show helps keep my synapses charged.
I've heard on a previous show mention spontaneous human invisibility, which might actually explain what happened to me.
I came home from work, went down to the family room, checked the news and your website, meaning mine, about 20 minutes of wind down time.
I wish I could do it that quickly.
And being exhausted, I did the I'm just going to lay down on the couch routine.
Before I knew it, I was asleep.
To set this up properly, every working morning, I drive my wife to the train that she takes to work at Sears Tower in Chicago.
So it was imperative that I was home.
It was a deep sleep.
And as I was awakened by my wife's seeming displeasure, as she was quietly calling out my name as to not wake the kids, I could feel her anguished tension.
So being in sort of a weak alpha state, I said that I was right here.
I'm right here.
But no response.
I could feel the tension in her voice as she obviously did not see me well in a lit room.
Again, I said, look, I'm right in front of you.
Again, no response from my wife.
She began a tensive tirade.
Obviously, she didn't see me.
So I began to laugh hysterically.
Still, no response from my wife of 22 years.
I became instantly concerned.
I began to think, well, maybe I'm dead.
You know, the feeling where you're floating, telling them how to save you from death, but yet very peacefully, my wife was upset at me not being physically present.
She just went back to bed, frustrated.
My death concern was alleviated with a pinch on my arm.
I took a deep breath, arose from the couch, went up to the bedroom, went up to my wife, and said, why didn't she answer me?
To which she reported, where was I?
And why was I home so late?
Vehemently denying my presence anywhere in our house and asking, where was I?
Strange, but absolutely true.
And that's from Donald Moore.
Thanks, Donald.
That's pretty typical of this incredible thing we're going to talk about tonight.
People, I saw a really, I loved NYPD Blue.
And Sipowitz and company had this guy in an interrogation room, you know, they're New York City cops on, obviously, NYPD Blue.
And they had this guy, and this guy had gone to some sort of voodoo lady because he was going to commit a crime.
He went to some voodoo lady to have an invisibility, what would you call it, spell, I suppose, cast upon him, and he had to drink something.
And I was convinced he could be invisible.
And at one point, they actually, they were done with him, and they wanted this guy to just go.
And so they began acting in the room as, you know, hey, where is he?
My God, he's escaped.
You know, and this guy's going, hmm, he's looking at himself.
Am I here?
God, I really am invisible, you know.
And they, of course, used that roost to sort of let him walk out.
He thought he was sneaking out.
Of course, he was totally visible, but he thought he was invisible.
My God, it had worked.
I'm Art Bell.
And we'll be right back.
Open lines directly ahead for about 30 minutes.
And then we'll talk about spontaneous human invisibility with Donna Kigby.
I've been waiting a while to do this.
It's going to be an interesting night.
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That was Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM on this Somewhere in Time.
Music.
Get in with me, don't smile before you need on top of the way we get.
Yeah.
You can do, use it, the way we get to you.
What can I do?
What can I do?
I remember my time with you.
And you said you had to get to laundry.
Didn't want no one to hold you.
What does that mean?
And you said, ain't nothing gonna break my stride.
Nobody gonna slow me down.
Oh no, I got to keep on moving.
Ain't nothing gonna break my stride.
I'm running and I won't turn a spell.
Oh no, I got to keep on moving.
Your arm rolling, now you're playing.
The world behind me's laughing, but now you're feeling happy.
You look at me and you see your eyes.
You stop freezing, why you're running so fast.
And she said, ain't nothing gonna break my stride.
Nobody gonna slow me down.
Oh no, I got to keep on moving.
Ain't nothing gonna break my stride.
I'm running and I won't turn a spell.
Oh no, I got to keep on moving.
Oh no, I got to keep on moving.
Somewhere in Time with Art Bell continues courtesy of Premier Networks.
And the question that some people had addressed to Jesus was, you know, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?
And the argument goes that, well, in order for him to have sinned, to be born blind, that seems to indicate that he existed in some previous life which, you know, caused his birth into this blindness.
And I just wanted to offer a couple of other explanations that I don't think that reincarnation is at all necessary to interpret that.
Well, you know, I would have some tough questions for you, too, about the Council of Nicaea and all that stuff, where they took the concept or actually, I guess, the words about reincarnation out of the Bible.
Even Father Malachi Martin, who was right up there with two popes, said it.
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Okay.
Well, my understanding of the second case The Council was Nicaea, so I'm not sure which other than that.
Now, Nicaea had nothing to do with it at all, but I know that Constantinople, they refuted the Church Father Origin, but his belief was not reincarnation at all.
He held to preexistence of souls, but he believed in only one incarnation in the flesh, and then after that the judgment.
I appreciate your call, and the subject is absolutely fascinating.
I thought the program we did with Brian Jameson was exceptionally interesting with regard to reincarnation, but you know what?
Intellectually, I have some problems with his concept of reincarnation, and that is that it goes on endlessly.
There is no graduation.
There is, in effect, no heaven, no hell, just reincarnation after reincarnation after reincarnation.
That's what he believes, and that's fine.
Intellectually, I have a problem with that because it sounds like a bummer.
I mean, if there really is a continuity to the soul and consciousness, then I'm not sure that a good future includes endlessly coming back here to do it again without having learned very much.
I just.
there's not a lot of heaven in that course is not a lot of other I don't know.
So I had a problem with that aspect of it, but I thought it was an incredible presentation.
Okay, I have theories on mysterious hums and where they're located in parts of the world where there's a lot of geological and seismic activity, such as New Mexico, where TALS is located.
Now you're leaping to another theory that it's two theories.
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Geological and military technological, and I think there's a link using geological sites as probably for some military purpose, like from caves or holes in the ground and stuff.
What do you imagine it might be that they would be doing that would be causing this?
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Military and the Air Force are trying to choose something similar to holes in caves or geological sites for harnessing hums or low-frequency noises for their own purpose.
And he makes a very compelling case that 9-11 was a break-stack fire, that the American government section of intelligence that I would bush knew it was going to happen, allowed it to happen to justify police take measures domestically.
Another one I would suggest would be James Banford, the top expert on the National Security Agency.
He has put out a book, The Body of Secrets, and the heart of the book is completely ignored whenever he's interviewed by the major cable channels to find better ways for intelligence gathering.
the heart of his book is that during the uh...
late fifties and early sixties the joint chiefs of staff and the under secretary of defense and others high in government had plans to perpetrate terrorist bombings against american cities and falsely blame it on cuba as a pretext to invade cuba it was only closer we've got with home All right, enough already.
So there wouldn't be anybody cooking up a pretext to invade Cuba.
Cuba will change hands soon enough.
Fidel grows old, his beard grows grayer, and his time will be up, and then things are going to change in Cuba.
And until then, we're not going to invade it because we made a promise not to.
That's an old Cold War promise, you know.
And as far as the United States actively deciding to drop bombs and blow things up and their own people and their own people in government, sorry, I don't follow that road.
I know there are a lot of people who think in those kind of really dark conspiratorial terms, but I'm not one of them.
There may be some controversy about some pre-knowledge regarding 9-11.
And we'll see how that story develops.
But do I think that U.S. government people planned all this and decided they would kill off Americans and knock down buildings and hit the Pentagon and try to hit the White House so that they could clamp down on us?
No.
Do I think a clamping down on the Bill of Rights and our freedoms is likely?
If terror continues, damn right I do.
But I don't think there's an inner conspiracy, you know, whooshing this along so that they can steal the rights out from under us.
That's one I'm sorry.
That's too far out there for me.
I guess my belief, and I do cling to some belief, you know, about the human nature of people includes those who work in our government.
Most of them are good people.
And never in a million years, you know, very, do you know, there were very few over the years, U.S. spies.
And by that I mean U.S. citizens who have turned against America, you know, dispersing secrets.
Sure, you can name a line of them, but two hands maybe.
There aren't many.
The Russians have had zillions.
The Chinese have had zillions.
These dictatorships have had zillions that have defected and come over here and told us lots of stuff.
But you don't see very many Americans doing that, and there's a good reason why.
It's still the best place in the world to live, period.
Anyway, the other reason, I was trying to give you a call here the last couple of nights, and I ran across some wonderful neighbors you have that live in Perup Valley.
If you dial the wrong number, you wake up one of my neighbors, probably somebody that I know.
Please dial carefully.
And also, at 2 o'clock or 3 o'clock in the morning, please do not try to engage my neighbors in conversations about cow mutilations.
It just doesn't go.
Okay, sir, proceed.
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All right.
Anyway, the real reason I called is to let you know that your comments the other evening regarding the terrorism and your position on it, I happen to agree with you 100%.
and i was hoping that myth that president bush would make a deal with the president putin to lower our nuclear uh...
stockpiles by about a hundred ap and if we ever get struck again or or russia get struck again let's just uh...
They're over there, the president's talking to Putin about further reductions in nuclear stockpiles, which is fine, But I'll bet you, I'd be willing to bet you a lot of money, not that we'll ever know, but that in very private conversations,
I'll bet you Bush and Putin are sitting there having a discussion about the possible use of tactical nuclear weapons if another terrorist incident occurs.
I would bet a lot of money on that.
That our president is telling Putin, look, there's going to come a time when if something else happens, when our response will not be able to be limited.
And you should be aware of it.
And we should work out the details of it now so we don't end up in World War III.
And I bet you they're having that conversation.
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Well, from your lips to God's ears, because I'll tell you, I happen to agree with you 100%.
I'm sick and tired of this threat, constant threat, and so on and so forth.
They did everything in their power to kill as many thousands of Americans at once as they could.
They're desperately now trying to get their hands on chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons.
And do you for one second, even one second, think when they do get their hands on these things, they're not going to use them?
Well, you're wrong.
They are.
They're going to take down as much of America as they can.
If they can poison an entire country, they'll do it.
If they can blow up cities in our country, they're going to do it.
They're going to kill women and children without any regard or even a second thought.
They're going to kill civilians in America.
I have suggested a tactical nuclear strike at predominantly non-civilian areas.
What I'm suggesting is that we look them in the face and don't just say, but do have the convictions of our, you know, have the ability to reach out and touch them as they have touched us.
And I'll bet you Putin and Bush are talking about that right now.
Now, of course, this is one bet we could never settle.
But I'll bet they are.
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The trip back in time continues with Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM.
More somewhere in Times Coming Up.
I saw the look in your eyes looking into mine.
Seeing what you wanted to see.
Darling, don't say a word.
Cause I already heard what your body came to mind.
I'm not a fast move.
While I looked around for my possibilities, I was so hard to please.
In the ground, it's a brown time.
It's a hazy day of winter.
In the sun, it's an old man.
Down the side, down the field around what you've got for.
Carry your hand, round, and the sky.
It's an easy day.
Hang on to your mom's mouth.
That's an easy thing to say.
That's the way to pretend that you can begin again.
Look around, that's the time.
Look around.
It's the springtime of my life.
Seasons change for the steamer weaving time in a devastation.
Won't you stop and remember me?
I'm sorry.
Premier Networks presents Art Bell somewhere in time.
Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from May 23rd, 2002.
Okay, Donna Goode Higby has always had a very keen interest in the paranormal, metaphysics, esoteric studies, and religion.
She began having mystical experiences when she was just 18 years old.
Donna graduated from the University of California at Santa Barbara with highest honors and a BA in religious studies.
It's interesting.
Her interest in UFOs began in 1993 when she began working as an assistant and public relations agent for a nationally known UFO researcher.
No kidding.
During that time, she also attended school and received certification as a clinical hypnotherapist, which specialized in working with people who felt they have had non-human encounters.
Wow.
Donna was the founder and director of CEIT Seat Contact Encounters Investigation team.
That's a research organization that studied abduction encounters and trends from 1993 through 1998.
She also established Dayona Promotions, a company that brought guest speakers like Dr. Roger Lear, you know him, Robert O'Dean, Mark Davenport, Leah Haley, John Carpenter, Michael Glickman, all kinds of stars like that to Santa Barbara to give seminars and lectures.
In 94, she began an investigation into human spontaneous involuntary invisibility and maintains the only database in the world of such experiences and reports.
A book is in the making, apparently.
Not out yet, though.
Now, here's what happened.
One of you wonderful listeners, in fact, I actually got it here.
Let's see.
Actually, you know what?
This came from overseas.
This came from the Netherlands.
Oh, isn't that interesting?
I had never noticed that.
This came from the Netherlands.
And it's seven pages so compelling.
Seven pages so compelling that Donna wrote, that somehow got out on the internet.
I'm about to ask about that, that it caused me to launch an entire program on this subject.
And, you know, I pined away at the time that I would really like to find the person who wrote this, Donna Good Higby, and I found her.
You're holding a report, really the first report of several that I've been doing all along in a rather strange phenomenon, the human spontaneous involuntary invisibility.
I call it HSII for short.
I was doing my hypnotherapy at a support group for a number of people who felt they'd had contacts, abductions, one thing and another, and needed a safe environment to be able to discuss these kinds of goings-ons.
And I had one woman come to me and want to tell me in confidence that she'd had this experience, and actually she'd had it several times, and didn't know what to make of it, didn't want to think she was going crazy, but really just didn't know what to do with it and felt at least that she could, in confidence, talk to me.
I wouldn't be judgmental.
I would try to help her.
She related an instance of going to the post office, standing in line, having another person come along behind her, asked the man ahead of her if he was the last person in line.
That man said, yes, I am.
And the new gentleman stepped into place, almost stepping on Vera.
And she stepped to the side, thought, well, this is extremely rude.
We have some pretty awful people here.
But continued to move up with the line, but off to the side a tiny bit.
Her time came.
She went up to the window, began speaking.
The man behind her walked right up to the same window and began speaking, and the clerk didn't even see or acknowledge Vera, but immediately began to help the gentleman.
And that was her very first time, and she just thought these people are really rude, and she left the post office and then just began to realize that every now and then, maybe a restaurant, maybe a shopping mall, someplace where there were a number of people with whom she'd have to interact, since that's the only way you know what's happening to you.
You have to attempt to interact with someone or you don't feel it yourself.
You don't know it.
Anyway, she wanted to sit with me and tell me that experience and say, am I going crazy?
That's a slightly different twist from some of these.
I'm sitting here, just to give you an idea of what I have in front of me.
I'm sitting here with at least 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 12 piles of letters that I've tried to put in some semblance of categories so that I can offer to the listener a varied grouping of the different kinds of things that happen in the different responses and just kind of really what's going on out there.
Well, I took call after call after reading, I think in part, you know, I sort of parceled it out through the program, but I think I read all seven pages ultimately of your report to my audience at one time or another as we went through the program.
And people would call up saying, oh, it's absolutely true.
It's happened to me.
Now, it appears, I want to talk a little bit about the nature of it.
You say spontaneous involuntary.
In other words, and it's true.
Everybody that I have spoken with thus far has just had this happen to them.
In fact, many of them, I'm going to read, if I may, later, or as we go along, small little portions of this one and that one because I want you to hear some of the wording of the people themselves.
And so many of them say, oh, my God, thank goodness I found you.
So that was this report that I'm holding that I used for that show, that was the focal beginning for you as a collection point for this kind of information.
After Vera came to me, I filed that away wondering, what the heck do I do with this?
Not having heard of it myself, and I thought, well, maybe she's just a little imaginative, having had other kinds of psychic experiences.
And then a second person came to me sometimes later, not knowing the first person, and reported a similar type of thing.
This one was similar to what the one you said earlier.
The woman was sitting on her sofa, staring at the wall, trying to decide what kind of wallpaper to get, and went into kind of a reverie state, just staring at the wall.
And actually, she said that she noticed that the wall seemed not quite so solid.
And she became really fascinated with looking at the less solid nature of that particular wall that she was staring at.
And she became so fascinated with that that she kind of saw the husband walking back and forth through the house, through the living room, kind of just saw him as a shadow passing by, paid no attention.
She was really lost in her thoughts.
Then eventually she kind of came out of her thoughts and the husband said, where have you been?
You've been hiding from me.
You know that we have to go to that meeting.
You know, why have you done this to me?
He was just outraged, was just yelling at her.
And she was sitting there flabbergasted because she'd been there.
Now, I do think that she changed her vibrational frequency, her aura, her frequency.
And I'll get into, I'll lay that out for the listeners.
It's taken me a number of years to come to the point I'm at, and I'm sure I'm not there yet.
I have a long ways to go.
But the place where I'm at now, I've kind of laid out a progression of what I think is happening and just kind of what has brought us there and whether or not we really are still here or vibrating at a higher frequency and in another place or where we are.
And I'd like to kind of get that when I can, maybe after a break where I have a span of time to really lay it out.
No, I think you're on the right track, Donna, with regard to vibrational frequency.
We see only and here, here and see only in a relatively, you know, when you look at the entire spectrum, we only see a little tiny piece of that spectrum, both above and below in frequency.
And above us, there's just a gigantic total world out there.
And you're getting me all excited here, because that's exactly what I'm going to address a little bit later on, is what I've kind of pieced together with bits and pieces here and there, here and there, and come up with something that I think is, oh, well, it blows me away.
And I've been working with it, so I'm hoping that it'll blow your audience away, too.
Let me say that in the beginning, way back so that I don't jump totally ahead of myself here, I was trying to make a connection between the HSII and UFO experience.
Because in the beginning, those people who knew me, who knew of my work, were people who had been in the abductee support group and so had had those kinds of experiences.
So I thought, well, maybe this is something.
If indeed we accept that non-human contact is happening, the UFO thing is happening, people report being taken through walls, through the walls of craft, you know, gone through procedures or whatever they go through, and then returned through the wall of the craft, through the wall of their own home and put back in their beds or living room or something.
No, I tried real hard to put that together because I thought that would be a new take on the whole subject.
But I've got, I must have, I think I counted up on all my zip disks something like 1,400 letters and reports and research papers from other researchers at this point.
I have so many cases of this.
And when I look back through that, I can't really make a case for a link up between HSII and UFO involvement.
A number of those people who have been, quote, abducted seem to have this experience.
But maybe, if indeed their UFO experience is a real accounting, their vibration was changed at the time.
and so then they would be able to have these kinds of HSII experiences.
Yeah, I've set that aside, kind of off on the back burner for the moment.
And as I've pursued some other avenues, which again, like I say, I'll mention, I think I'm closer to what's happening than I would have been had I stayed on the track of the UFO.
All right, well, that, you better hold for the break.
Do you think, let me ask you one question.
Do you believe that this change that's going on, both internal and external factors considered, and we'll talk about that, is occurring demographically evenly?
In other words, is it happening to older people, middle-aged people, and younger people at a roughly equal rate?
In fact, two of the letters that I held out to reach you, one is a 17-year-old boy who has a punk band, and the other is a 70-year-old woman who's telling of an experience with her husband.
All right, we're going to do all of that and more.
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The temptation for me, of course, is to rush ahead because I've been talking about this topic so much, but really I do understand that a lot of you are sitting out there going, give me a break, human invisibility.
Give me a break.
Well, it's true.
And what we probably ought to do is let Donna tell a few stories that she's gathered from her research, Donna.
She said knocked over by people who didn't know she was there.
Okay, fine.
Does that imply, and is there a consistent aspect of this invisibility thing where people do indeed become invisible, however, they are, in fact, physically still there?
Oh, yes, they're there, and they're looking out at the world thinking everything's normal, and they don't understand why people are crashing into them.
To the person that is running into them, they don't see anything, and bang, they suddenly hit a person, and they're very shocked.
The moment there's contact, the moment that they run into each other, it seems to jolt the frequency, jolt the person, the quote, invisible person, and they're back.
And so all of a sudden, the person who ran into them sees them, but can't understand why they didn't see them one second before.
So it's as much of a shock to the person running into them as it is to the poor person who almost gets run over.
Right, I have never run into an invisible person, but I can guarantee you if I did, it would put me in shock.
I would go into shock.
Now, I've certainly sensed, I've had moments in my life, many of them, and I know everybody in the audience has, when you have sensed somebody's there.
I mean, the hairs on the back of your neck go straight up.
You know, I think it's a primal thing in our brains.
We know when there's a presence, whether it's visible or not.
I think, and again, unless, well, we wouldn't know there was an invisible person in our midst because we plain wouldn't see them.
It would only be the invisible person trying to communicate with us, trying to interact with us, who would know that they were in some kind of a state that they didn't really want to be in.
They weren't happy about.
This woman's in Australia.
She says, I'm a very big, tall girl with long black hair.
Sometimes when I go shopping or out in the mall, I feel I'm not really there.
I feel very calm, very relaxed, just listening to the birds or watching people.
Sometimes I get a fizzy feeling, like after you blow up a balloon and you feel you're out of oxygen.
Then I go to the counter and I stand there waiting to be served, but no one sees me or acknowledges me.
Someone else will come up to the counter and they'll serve them straight away.
It's not until I get angry, that's the key there, because it changes your frequency.
It's not until I get angry and blurt out that I was next, that they look at me in total surprise and then serve me.
Most girls have said, I didn't see you.
I'm so sorry, when I was standing right in front of them.
So it's coming from around the world.
It's not just the U.S. I have from, well, in here I'll try to find the one I have from Malaysia, Africa, Brazil, Canada, Greece, England, France, all over.
Karen, actually, I've become friends with this woman now because she felt she couldn't talk to anyone else about these experiences, so we've kind of become quite good friends.
Karen, one of her major ones, and it happened more than once to her, was she was driving in her car.
She would come to a red light.
She'd be the front car in the line.
She'd come to a red light and stop.
Pedestrians would be crossing the street.
Then she'd notice that they kind of peer in, and pretty soon they're over there looking in the car windows, staring into her car.
The light will go green.
She'll begin to inch forward past the people, and they all have a fit because as far as they're concerned, this car is driving itself.
Well, when we drive, especially if it's a route that we've taken that we don't have to think about a lot, we get, I think, at least I know I do, into just kind of a very relaxed state.
And again, that puts you into a different brainwave frequency and can change your frequency, as I'll show here.
But it's just, anyway, that was Karen's experience, one of hers.
And the poor gal had, this other one only happened one time, but it was very disconcerting to her.
She went off to a massage parlor.
She was due to get a good massage, so she put on her white robe, waited in the little waiting room.
She was the only one in there.
Said that she was kind of cool being just in a robe.
So she sat in the window in the sun, and she's got bright red hair, and here she sits there with a white gown in the sunshine.
And the woman whose client she was came in twice, looked all around the room, didn't see her, left, came in a third time, walked over to a file cabinet, started making some notes on a clipboard there.
She was almost knee-to-knee with this gal, with Karen.
And suddenly, for whatever reason, well, I think Karen spoke.
I think she said that she said, well, you know, I am here waiting.
And the poor lady just about jumped out of her skin.
Because as far as she was concerned, bang, this woman just appeared.
In other words, when she actually vocalized that, when she said, you know, I am here waiting, that's an exasperated emotional response that would snap her right back out of it, huh?
Well, it's very interesting because I find two things.
One is that maybe 50% of the cases, When they speak, they are suddenly seen.
But there's another percentage, and I don't really truly know how to address this yet, that they can speak all they want, like Vera in the post office.
Hey, I'm next.
And we still do not hear or see them.
And in fact, let me find this one really interesting one that I've got here about this man.
Oh, dear.
Well, I'm not going to find it to read it to you, but I'll just tell you.
this young boy was walking along with his friends on a back road, real gravel road.
And when you walk on a gravel road, it makes a lot of noise.
I have a number of them, especially once people found out I was collecting this database.
People wanted to say, well, guess what happened to me?
And they would write to me.
But yeah, most of them are from the point of view of the poor person who experienced it, who just has to get it off their shoulders and tell their experience.
Now, I do want to say to those people that are listening that think, oh, well, anybody can make up a story, there are a few components of this phenomenon that I am not reporting, I am not talking about, and it helps to keep these letters honest because when they write in and they have those components in them, and I've not spoken a word to anyone about them, I know that this person's having that experience.
So I learned that in the UFO field.
There's certain things you just simply don't identify or report.
Well, yes, I don't know for sure, but I've got some kind of some interesting stuff here that if you'll bear with me, even though it may not seem related at this very second, it may pull together that letter that I mentioned earlier that I'd gotten, scientist friends sent me a copy of a newsletter that was posted about five years ago.
And it says, NASA reports changes in sun.
In 1994, NASA sent the spacecraft Ulysses out to measure the magnetic activity of the sun.
The scientists recording readings at the sun's equator at the north and south poles.
What they found totally confounded them.
The recorded readings were exactly the same for both the north and south poles.
In other words, there was no longer a north or south pole on the sun.
The sun had lost its polarity.
That in addition to the disappearance of the sun's magnetic polarity, their findings seemed to indicate that now the sun was emitting a new type of light.
Our sun is a hydrogen-based sun.
As the hydrogen atoms fuse, they produce an atomic reaction, which literally powers our whole solar system.
And in this fusion, the sun gives off light and other emissions, which, of course, we get here, right?
Well, the readings taken by the spacecraft indicated that the sun is now becoming a helium sun and that the light and the emissions coming from the sun are different.
This is particularly interesting given the Mayan prophecy that talks about how in the final or end days we would receive a new light from the sun.
This is actually occurring now.
I'm still reading from the newsletter now.
That a few months later, scientists detected fluctuations in the Earth's magnetic field, both fluctuating from side to side and becoming weaker in its magnetic strength.
Then I go to a letter that came from, let me find it here, a German friend of mine who's working in Russia.
And he said, I'm going to quote just a part of it.
He says, the geomagnetic field of the Earth is undergoing huge changes.
In the last 20 years, the field has not only been dropping, but has become erratic.
During the last two weeks of September 94, the world experienced a geomagnetic field wobble.
Airlines worldwide were forced to manually land their airplanes because the geomagnetic field of the Earth began to move.
Yeah, then during July and August of 96, two years later now, the South Pole was actually moving around sometimes as much as 1,000 miles off its normal position.
And pilots are having serious problems from time to time in this regard.
End quote of his letter.
But then I did some more work and it said in the summer of 98, the Russian computer model showed that we passed the point where the geomagnetics could be reversed, meaning that whenever a system gets to that stage, it's going to go to zero.
At the same time, we've got the human resonance is increasing.
Now, the human resonance is that signature frequency that is from the surface of the Earth to the bottom of the ionosphere.
It runs that whole area.
The fundamental frequency for perhaps thousands of years was around 7.5 to 7.8 Hz.
But that level is going up.
Greg Braden, who's the author of, I've got it here, Awakening to Zero Point, the collective initiation, reported in 96 that it had risen as high as 11.2 Hz.
Now, according to Russian scientists, it's even risen above that.
So the prophecies of the native tribes and all the different peoples around the world that say there's going to be a vibratory frequency change on Earth during this period of time seem to be correct.
And what's interesting to me is the rising human resonance has been confirmed by NASA because their recent readings of the Earth from space show a rise in the frequency hum emitted by the planet.
So even NASA is verifying that our frequency is going up.
First of all, her information is dead on the money.
I'm getting a little more than I bargained for here.
This one very smart lady.
And I've got a couple of words about the sun and the changing emissions from the sun and emails that I've been getting that I'll bring up after the break.
And we will continue with Donna Good Higby.
I'm Art Bell, and this is Coast.
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different and most and the inevitably they gone to explain that the sun looks whiter that they think that a lot of the yellow yellowish content of the Of the color, and I'm trying to be as specific as I can, has become more white.
Now, this got punctuated the other day.
Ramona out of the blue said to me, Hey, Han, have you noticed the sun is whiter, is brighter, is more burning?
And I said, oh, God, you know, I really should say something about that on the show.
And I did notice it myself.
When I look, now, you're not supposed to look at the sun, everybody.
Of course, everybody always gives out those warnings, right, when we have eclipses and so forth.
So don't go look at the sun.
But under certain conditions, I have, and yes, I have noticed it.
So there's another wild one to just throw out there into Zululand that's going to generate a million responses.
I know it is.
We'll get back to Donogood Higby in a moment.
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Okay, so we did establish that, though, that the geomagnetics is going towards zero, and the Schuman resonance, which is the electromagnetic frequencies of the Earth, is rising.
So all of that brings about a new planetary power grid, which is kind of like the acupuncture points, the meridians in a human body.
They're the power points in the Earth that are connected by lines of energy.
In 1970s, a student of Buckminster Fuller discovered that if they immersed an inflated balloon in dye while subjecting that to a fixed vibration, the dye collected at certain fixed points on the balloon, and then they were connected by these thin lines, creating these geometric arrangements.
Well, when they increased the frequency, the original points and the lines all disappeared, and they were all replaced by new die points and lines of a much more complex configuration.
And I think that's exactly what's happening to our planet.
Our Earth is like the die points on the balloon, and it's responding to this change in frequency, and the planet's power grid is changing into a totally new structure as this Schuman resonance rises.
doing a lot of undercover work you're actually saying you developed technique away that you could uh...
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How I started out is that years ago when I was just a kid, and I came across a book one time about how the ninjas, you know, the Japanese ninjas, they would have like this called the cloak of invisibility and were apparently their enemy couldn't see them.
And I thought, wow, I could probably do that.
And I used to just play around and just like putting myself into an altered state and having like my friends and people not really see me.
You know, they would just look right past you.
And like years, I just kind of like played it, played around with it.
And then years later, I got on a police department.
This was on a big city.
And I thought, well, how could I use this on a lot of my police work?
Well, I practiced projecting a lot of this when people would be making drug deals on the street and stuff like that.
And I would, of course, I'd be in full uniform.
And I would have it where they would just see me as a regular person.
and of course you know i would make a rat and others they didn't see you as a They didn't even see my uniform.
And then, like, later on, when I got into a lot of the undercover work working in the narcotics division and organized crime division, I used some of it then when we were trying to go, especially when we were going after some organized crime bosses and that.
And, of course, that after I had to practice this quite a lot because I didn't know how far I could push it.
And I remember one case that we were working on is we were trying to make arrests on a person high up in the organized crime unit, crime boss, more or less.
And he was going to be making a payoff for somebody to make a hit.
Well, the person that they was supposed to be making the hit was arrested, but they didn't know it.
So I said, well, look, I'll have them make the payoff to me.
And I says, don't worry, you know, everybody in our unit was looking at me.
Well, how are you going to get them to do that?
I said, don't worry about it.
I'll take care of it.
So I projected to the persons.
these are mafia people, so you had to be...
You couldn't make a mistake because you'd be dead.
I projected to them that I was the hitman, that they were going to make the payoff to me.
They couldn't understand when it was going through court and that, how come they gave a police officer, of course, I was in plain clothes and that kind of stuff.
I think that falls more into the category that I'll address where we talk about the cloud and we're talking about intent and desire as being the motivating factors to do it.
Okay, well, the cloud has been referred to in literature for ages.
It's said that the Catholic saints through the ages have been able to levitate and disappear into these mists or clouds.
And Jewish literature mentions Moses disappearing in clouds that form around him.
And folklore talks about clouds.
The Mayan Indians say that their wise men were able to surround themselves with clouds.
So this is something that's been going on for a great long time.
It's a different phenomenon than HSII.
I believe that the cloud is, well, let me back up just a bit.
These people use their minds, they use their intent and their desire to be unseen, and that desire alone pulls to them, shall we say, well, it's not, it's a kind of matter, but it's above matter.
In my paper, I wrote electrons.
That's not really quite accurate.
It's a kind of an energy even above that.
I think we would have to call it more like spiritual energy.
It's between absolutely pure spirit and the first inkling of matter as spirit descends into matter, right before you pick up electrons with their negative charges and start looking at the things that we say are components that make up the atoms that make up matter.
This is just above that, a more rarefied energy.
And I think that it is subject to focused willpower and intent and emotion.
And I believe that if I'm looking at literature in the past, these people have pulled to them these kinds of clouds.
Now, I don't think the cloud hides the person.
I think what the cloud does coming as a higher frequency, it changes that person's frequency.
And then I have one newsletter that came from Spain.
It said during the War of the Spanish Succession, 1700 to 1713, in the year of 1707, 4,000 soldiers of the Archduke of Australia disappeared without a trace by a brook in the Pyrenees.
It said no enemy was in the vicinity and no corpses or military equipment were left there.
Indeed, there was no trace of them.
And it's a whole newsletter that tells about the different ones.
There was a train accident in Spain.
It said the number of passengers was around 800, of whom 78 died and 75 were injured.
A great number of the passengers, however, disappeared without a trace.
As a proof of this, the reporter who wrote this article says he refers to the utter disappearance of the pair of civil guards that always went with the train, of whom not even the guns they carried were found.
And it's a whole newsletter of those kinds of disappearances.
Well, I've been trying to go in many directions and pick up bits and pieces here, there, in the next place that might put part of this puzzle together for me.
And I do.
I'm sitting here on the floor surrounded with data.
And this is one lady who's really got her act together, Donna Good Higby.
What a find.
She's obviously done a lot of very deep research, so deep and has begun to reach so many conclusions about all of this that I wonder if she's considered inviting some scientific colleagues in on the whole thing here.
This should probably be broadened out.
This whole area of investigation with regard to invisibility should be broadened.
There's something to be found here, and perhaps some top flight scientist would like to jump on board.
That's a question we'll ask in a moment.
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John in San Antonio, Texas makes an interesting observation.
He says, ART, I hope this stuff isn't true.
Can you imagine an invisible terrorist?
And, you know, I thought for a moment, and then I thought, maybe it's already happening.
In other words, there are so many successful homicide bombings going on, and so many successful terrorist acts going on, that how the hell do we know it isn't happening right now?
How do we know that a terrorist like a police officer, you know, in mortal, if not fear, because they're on a mission, but with such incredible dedication and concentration, is not, in effect, able to achieve some sort of state that means they don't get caught and they kill people?
Let me just proceed with my next little bit of information because I think it might partly answer what you're saying right now.
Fire away.
Just to back up for people who've just popped in, we've talked about geomagnetic levels falling, electromagnetic frequencies rising, and then the planetary grid is definitely changing and becoming more powerful, higher frequency.
There's one more little piece to stick in the mix here, and that would be the human brain wave frequencies.
Just follow this.
You've got your beta waves, 14 to 30.
That's our normal active everyday type awareness.
Got alpha waves, 18 to 13 hertz, which is your meditation and relaxation.
And then your dreamy creative states were the theta waves, 4 to 7 hertz.
Well, okay, if you've got the Schuman resonance, the electromagnetic frequencies rising, they're coming closer to where we might be in more of a relaxed, normal, not an active everyday state, but more of a content, kind of peaceful state.
Okay, so they found that that actually took place.
But then they took this same man, took him out to an area where there had been a good lightning storm, which throws that electromagnetic levels out of balance, put the same old coil in the ground, put the electrodes on the man, and brought him down into the level where the schuman resonance should have been, because it was out of whack now with the storm.
And the actual human resonance jumped to the level of the man and locked in.
could be changed if people lock into that yes well if it be a bit if shuman comes up to the point Yes, for sure.
Because once it reaches the level of the person, or the person in a calm state reaches the Level where it is at that point, there will be that entrainment and there will be a much more of a oneness kind of thing.
Well, that in itself is really great, but the piece that I love, I just get so excited I can hardly sit here.
When the meditator and the Schuman resonance, the earth of that local area, were entrained, Heart Math Institute had taken some DNA from this man.
They had it a distance away in a solution, in a Petri dish, under a microscope.
Now, when the meditator entrained with the earth, and if he was able to experience the oneness and go into what he called planetary love, compassion, gratefulness, just this wonderfulness, whatever.
But very positive emotions, the DNA actually began to unravel and rebraid at a higher structure which would indicate more information coming in and higher consciousness.
Yeah, not just reaching entrainment, but when he reached entrainment and at that state, then began to go into a loving, compassionate state, his very being began to evolve.
No, I'm talking about non-locality, Donna, that remote viewers, many others talk of, even many theoretical physicists right now are beginning to talk a whole lot about a non-locality in which everything is one.
All information is contained, perhaps information that even reaches into other dimensions, that everything is non-local and everything is connected, is being talked about all over the place right now.
Well, this is what they found, you know, and I'm just wondering, and my feeling is that for those people who, because the Schuman resonance is rising and they are in training, there's a lot more people out there that will find themselves in that entrained state.
And if at the same time, they are the type of people to feel very, very loving towards their fellow people and very grateful for their life, etc.
Those will be the very people that evolve, that go through this DNA change and begin to evolve.
And the more you evolve, the more your frequency would rise because your chakras, your energy system of the body, would be able to bring in the higher frequencies and process them.
And you would be evolving.
And in the shift of those frequencies as your body is undergoing this, I'm just thinking that probably what we might be seeing are some of these shifting frequencies in these people that are experiencing bouts of HSII as they're undergoing some of this evolution.
And the Earth is beginning to transition in a dimensional shift upwards into that parallel reality.
So eventually, we could find two realities.
We could have the one that remains basically on a lower frequency and will be home to those people who cannot transition due to their emotional state of fear and hatred and anger and judgmental attitudes.
And that kind of dimensional earth would remain in a lower frequency because it would be in training with the humans at that level and just...
No, I doubt it.
Anyway, those who continue to hold those lower negative emotions would hold that Earth reality back from rising.
And then you'd have those who are moving into the higher frequency and find that eventually they exist in kind of a higher dimensional Earth.
They have entrained with that Earth's higher frequencies, held the more positive emotions of love and compassion, and literally restructured their DNA to allow for the higher consciousness.
And then the higher they go, the more that helps this alternate earth to rise because of the entrainment, and the earth and the human just grow together.
Well, might I add that it damn well better happen pretty soon because the present state of the world tells me that not a whole lot of people are in sync with Schuman at all.
We're in a mess, Donna.
We're in a serious, really serious mess.
The world is an extremely dangerous place today.
And I have views that probably would cause people to say, I'm definitely going to stay in that lower group you were talking about because people are trying to kill us right now, Donna.
And I think we need to go and kill them first and hard and fast.
But there are those people out there who are really changing.
At least I run into some, maybe not a huge number, but there are those who are attempting to grow in their consciousness and attempting to really love other people and making that a real attempt.
And so I think if we can just get enough of those, 100th monkey kind of thing, if we can just get enough of those people.
And in fact, if people go on the internet, and I don't know the exact address, but if they look up the HeartMath project, I believe it is, or the Heart Project of the Heart Math Institute, it will tell of a project that they're doing where they are trying to get people to do a meditation and to envision the planet in this more of a compassionate type of frame of mind.
Well, you know, I don't want to run through the whole litany, but we were able on several occasions to do all kinds of interesting things like make rain where there was none, millions of minds concentrating.
And then there was the whole Princeton recent thing with the computers they have and what are called eggs scattered around the world spitting out random numbers, just computers.
And then the mass mind affecting those computers that are documenting it, Donna, with things like graphs at the butt end of this line of computers, just suddenly going right off the chart into the ozone.
Yeah, and they worked on mind control techniques, and they really discovered how to use their mind to do many things.
And I believe a gentleman named Cameron, Duncan Cameron, was one of their prime people who was adept at using his mind to do different things.
And again, if all of that is true, all of what's reported is true, he was able to actually materialize out of nothingness different things that people wanted on the base where this was happening, the base at Montauk.
Brad Steiger, no, not Brad, or maybe it was Brad, or either that or Moon and Nichols wrote about the techniques and the experiments.
It was suggested that we try and turn a hurricane, but an unintended consequence could be it would stay out over water, grow to a category five, and kill thousands of people.
You know, you just, it's such a weird area that I think we need more understanding before we sort of plunge ahead and just start affecting the world.
Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from the 23rd of May, 2002.
Music At the end I'm smiling, walking miles to drink your water.
You know I love to lie.
At the end I'm smiling, walking miles to drink your water.
If I leave here tomorrow Would you still remember me?
Well, I must be traveling on now There's just too many places I've got to see If I stay with
you, girl Things just couldn't be the same Cause I'm as free as a bird now And there's birds you cannot change
Oh, and there's birds you cannot change Oh, and there's birds you cannot change You're listening to Art Bell, somewhere in time, tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from the 23rd of May 2002.
I still have some interesting letters, some with multiple witnesses, but maybe they can be saved for email correspondence with people who are interested, too.
And I was wondering, and this kind of ties in with what Art was saying about the mass brain consciousness and these cycles of violence that are just absolutely spinning out of control and an ideology that you can actually kill them all before they will kill you all.
And it's just this absolute logic loop.
It seems insane to me that people would believe this.
Now I'm wondering, these folks that are experiencing this, do you know have they come to these same conclusions?
Meaning, are they peaceful?
Are these at times violent people?
Or is this phenomenon somehow associated with a Christ consciousness?
The people that have contacted me, out of all of the letters that I've gotten, and I think I said earlier there's something like 1,400 of them so far, I've only had two reports from people who said that they had had run-ins with the police and had had this experience while they were, one was trying to steal clothes in a department store for the fun of it with friends, more of a kind of a high school prank rather than being a real heavy criminal.
The whole group was caught and taken to the police department.
Everyone was checked out and detained except this one woman.
No one saw her.
No one asked for her ID.
No one even talked with her at all.
She finally got up from the group, walked past the guards, and left.
And later, when she talked with her friends, they thought she hadn't even been caught.
Let me just put in here because I think it's very interesting.
I got one email, I think it was just in the last day or two, I've had so many, from someone informing me that I should get a hold of the police department in Orlando, Florida, and ask them about the case that they have of a man who is a criminal in Orlando who has this ability to disappear on them.
I guess the entire police force knows this person.
Our matter and spiritual and their part in their evolution.
You know what I'm saying?
As, you know, there's no voice.
You're talking visual language.
You know, that's how I perceive it.
People being able to disappear, whatever you want to call it.
Like, say, for instance, all we know is our own language.
Like, you're not going to eat that, are you?
Or, are you going to eat that?
I mean, you can get any response you want, because that's what we know.
But visually, in a realm of people who are only used to voice, visually, you can conduct anything you want, I would think, you know, whether it's yourself or how you want them to perceive you, you know?
Those who are able to be unseen, virtually invisible, and those who are able to project an image into another's mind, there's got to be a connection there somewhere, huh?
And the people that are contacting me are very upset, if anything, thinking they're going crazy.
Their last thing they're doing is willingness to happen or wishing to be invisible.
There's a few, you know, like maybe these people at the police department that want to not be there and would like not to be seen, and then it somehow happens, and I think they are causing that.
But most of my cases, almost all of them, with the exception of just a few like that, this is happening as my little blurb.
Yeah, but wouldn't that be the case if all of this is true?
I mean, if everything we're talking about is true, at least people able to become invisible, if that's really true, then that would be an innate human ability that we have not, that obviously we haven't really explored except for the yogis and, you know, whoever all that type of person.
It would be a great unknown.
So it would tend to occur spontaneously and almost without the prison.
That doesn't mean that people couldn't train themselves to use this if they knew how.
Is there anything you want to ask, Donna, while you're on the air?
unidentified
I'd like to also explain where this universe came from, which the scientists still don't understand, how the firewalkers work, and it's a definite, identical, honest understanding of how it works.
And speaking strictly of the involuntary, the first thing that struck me when I first heard you talk about this art was that it seemed to me that there was something lacking within these people that were involuntarily not being perceived by others.
And I thought that it was a lack of part of their soul essence or spirituality, which is why they were not being perceived.
Because when you get charismatic people that walk into a room, even when they are not seen, they are felt.
Great people that are in tune with the universe and communicate extremely well with animals, you feel their essence as well.
Once again, here's Donna Good Higby, and our caller is still on the line.
Caller, is there anywhere else you wanted to go here?
unidentified
Yeah, I'd like to throw a couple more things out that I would like for you to ponder or perhaps comment on.
Far away.
Okay, I would like for both of you, when you have the opportunity, to look into people that have had near-death experiences and have been aware of nothing.
And there is one more thing that I would like to throw out because I heard this when I was driving home my car from work, and it was George Nouri, who was the host, where he had a guest that did mention that the grays were soul eaters.
There was a government deputy minister in the present Zimbabwe government who told once that he and two companions were lost on a mountain near their home.
What I found interesting is he said they wandered aimlessly for three days without feeling tired or hungry.
They were in a state of confusion, for although they could See the people who were searching the mountain for them, they themselves could not be seen.
They shouted and waved their arms above their heads to attract their attention, but to no avail.
And then there's a quote from the deputy minister: he says, People passed us by as though we were invisible.
I'm getting real frequent emails from deputy ministers and kings and princes who are anxious to send, oh, geez, up to $80 to $100 million to my account.
There's just this little hitch, and that is that, of course, it's complete fraud.
The whole thing's a big fraud coming out of Africa, and everybody's getting spam email.
We're going to send you $80 million.
Of course, you've got to put up whatever it is, number of dollars, to get the whole process started, but you're going to make millions, and it all comes out of Africa.
First time caller line, you're on the air with Donna.
unidentified
Hi.
Hi.
Art, I emailed both of you guys a picture that I had heard your show a few weeks back when you were talking about invisibility, and I remembered this picture, and I went and had it scanned and emailed it to you.
But what was happening was that I teach and play West African drums, and I was at a party, and I was playing some drums.
And what was interesting was before I started playing, they were asking me about my meditative art.
I also practice a Dallas meditative art.
And a week after the party, my friend called me and said, you've got to take a look at these pictures.
And she showed me a picture of me as I was walking across the room.
I had taken a break, and I was walking back towards my friends who were still playing.
And you could see through me.
You could see through my head.
You could see through my legs.
You could see through out the window and the lamp behind me.
Well, I know Bud Hopkins has several photos that were taken of an Australian family when they were visiting the playground in Queensland.
And they took pictures of the family members, each other, took their pictures and whatever.
And when the pictures were processed, everything's there, the shore, the playground, the playground equipment, everything's there but the people.
There's no people in those photos, and I know he has those.
And then I have yet to get it, but I have heard from a gentleman named Sam who said that he and three friends were raised in really poor families.
They were very hungry, and they had oftentimes gone into local supermarkets just to put food in their coats, not big items, just food and make a getaway.
Well, they returned to one place they had been before, and unbeknownst to them, there were security cameras in place.
And very soon they heard the police sirens coming up, and they put everything back on the shelf, but the owner said, up, you can't get away.
I've got you right here on film.
And the owner and the film and the boys all went down to the police station and they popped the film in, and there, all the boys were but one, and they had all been standing right beside each other grabbing things.
One boy was completely unfilmed the entire time, and they had to release him.
So he just, you know, wasn't there.
And then there's a gal named Julie who said that she has an awful lot of problems with electronic doors when she tries to go into a grocery store or a business that has an electronic door.
And this isn't all the time, because you have to realize this phenomenon doesn't happen all the time.
It kind of selectively just chooses a time when you don't know when it's going to happen.
But, you know, again, I would say, Donna, that if it's an innate human ability that we just don't train ourselves to and don't know about and therefore don't use, it would occur this way randomly.
Every now and then it would just sort of, you'd stumble into it.
It could be a very deep-seated ability in us and we just haven't used it for heaven knows how long and don't even remember that we have the ability to use this.
And then I think probably a lot of the listeners will know about the researcher, Katerina Wilson.
She's written Alien Jigsaw and a few other books.
She wrote me a letter, and I even believe this is posted on the net someplace, but she was giving an experience in an airport where she went into the ladies' room between flights, put soap on her hands, put her hands under those electronic automatic sensors, the faucets, and couldn't get any water.
Thought, oh, well, this one's broken.
Waited till the lady next to her was finished, hopped over her hands under that one, nothing.
And then a woman came up to the one she had just left and very successfully used it.
She raced back over to it again to get the last few drops to get some of the soap off her hands.
She couldn't get a faucet in that restroom to work on seeing her hands so that she could get the soap off of them.
Gee, is there, I wonder if there's any way, you know, to go to a photo lab and have them dissect this frame by frame and look for, I don't know what, but authenticate, I guess, the fact that he actually disappeared as opposed to an anomaly of film that I couldn't even begin to think about explaining.
She says, I was in the emergency room at Cedar Sinai in L.A. when a nurse instructed me to sit on the gurney and wait to be admitted.
I noticed dark figures darting about and the general activity in the ER was slow.
I also noticed the PC monitors mounted throughout the CR flicker as though the images were slowing down.
I never moved from the gurney.
The nurse came back and asked me where I had been and said that I was told to stay put.
I know I never moved from where she had left me and I didn't know what she was going on about.
She finally said that I must have gone to the restroom.
I did not.
I was sitting there the entire time.
I thought the experience was remarkable but never spoke to anyone about it before now.
So and I have others like that that talk about time.
In my article that you read, you read about Peter in England who went up to a restroom at a party, used the restroom, came out, went back downstairs, and the woman waiting outside the door never saw him.
Okay, he actually, I've got his original correspondence, and then I've talked with him since then.
And while he was in the bathroom, he says, while I stood, well, I'll read it as it says here, while I stood at the toilet, I looked up and caught sight of my face looking back at me from the mirror of the bathroom cabinet.
I was shocked by my appearance and appeared to have aged 20 years.
My eyes in particular seemed odd and sunken.
And then he proceeds to say how he walked out and the woman couldn't see him.
He went downstairs, tried to get a cigarette from his friends.
They couldn't see him.
He went back upstairs again, trying to catch somebody else to find a cigarette.
And only then did the woman, who was still waiting outside the bathroom, not knowing he ever came out, saw him come up behind her and was absolutely shocked because she thought he was still in the restroom.
Now, I don't know what happened there because people have said, why didn't she see the door open and shut?
I wanted to see if she had ever recorded a case possibly where someone in the state of invisibility manipulated a physical object in front of witnesses, and then perhaps the witnesses later on recorded like poltergeistic effects.
But it seems that anything in direct contact with the person, if they're holding it, you know, they have a coat draped over their arm, whatever, that seems to be included in their frequency shift, and the person doesn't see that either.
So you wouldn't just see a coat going through the air without a person holding it.
Well, all right, then if a person in that state were to pick up a physical object or come in contact with a physical object while in that state, what would occur to that object?
Yeah, well, I mean, in that I have pages of data and stacks of notes, but to put it all in an absolute consecutive order, not completely.
I haven't completely gotten in that route yet.
I've got a long, yeah, I've got a lot to go, and I'm hoping some of the data that I'll get through people contacting me after being with you might help fulfill some of this.