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April 15, 2002 - Art Bell

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Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - Warren Faidley - Storm Chaser

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art bell ▲ ● ▼		From the high desert in the Great American Southwest, the very strange Great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening, good afternoon, good morning, wherever in the world you are listening to us in the moment.
		I'm Mark Bell.
		The program is post-AMS worldwide.
		Great to be with you.
		Boy, what a story I have to tell you.
unidentified		Oh, my.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We have quite a day to stay here in the desert.
		I'll tell you all about it in a moment.
		Welcome to KTFS in Texas Canada, Texas.
		All right, Texas Canada.
		I'm 40 on the dial there, and the GM is Mike Simpson.
		Glad to have you on board the network as we continue to grow and grow and grow and grow and grow and grow.
		All right, I do have a serious story to tell you about, and I'd like to add that for that purpose, I'm going to be holding the first-time caller line open for only people here in the Prump area, the southern Nevada area, in general, and that is area code 775-727-1222.
		So if everybody else would please not dial that number for a while here, that's the 727-1222 number only for the Perump, southern Nevada area.
		Now, I'll briefly cover what's going on in the world, which is never too pretty.
		Prime Minister Ariel Sharone said Monday that Israeli troops would press ahead with a campaign against Palestinian militants in Ramallah and Bethlehem, despite U.S. pleas to get out.
		Secretary of State Colin Powell on Monday embraced the idea of an international conference aimed at stopping Middle East violence and restarting Israeli-Palestinian peace negotiations, sidestepping a clash with Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, who wants to exclude Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat from any such conference.
		Before moving on, well, here's an interesting one from Racine Wisconsin Art.
		I can't believe the weather we're having here in southern Wisconsin.
		We didn't have a winter at all.
		It snowed twice this winter, a maximum accumulation that we normally get in, say, a month.
		Today, it hit 90 and is forecast for 90 tomorrow, too.
		All of my bulb plants are in bloom, which normally doesn't occur until May.
		What's even more odd is that I've lived here all my life, and as a kid, I remember bitter cold winters.
		It lasted six months.
		But over the last 10 years, our winters have gotten less severe.
		Our springs have come earlier now.
		We hardly ever see zero degrees anymore.
		This year, it only hit it one day.
		I would never have believed in global warming or climate change or whatever this drastic.
		But I can no longer deny that something is definitely changing and rapidly.
		I certainly agree with that.
		Now, let me tell you what happened here.
		Yesterday, I began receiving weather reports indicating there was a giant pressure gradient difference developing here in the west.
		And we had very hot weather.
		We were touching 100 degrees during the day and only going down into the 80s at night.
		Right now, the temperature is 55.9 degrees.
		Now, we went down approximately 30 degrees in both daytime and nighttime temperature in a period of three hours.
		We were getting warnings yesterday that we were going to get winds here, perhaps in excess, gusting in excess of 60 miles per hour.
		You know, a lot of times when you hear these warnings and it turns out to be 30 or 40, but not 60 today, and we were very concerned, so Ramona and myself went to the radio station yesterday afternoon and then again last night during George's program, and we tried to warn everybody.
		We told them what we saw coming and said they had better batten down the hatches.
		Well, let me tell you.
		Beginning about mid-morning and beginning to get severe at about noon, in all the years I've lived in the desert, and we get big winds in the desert, you know, we're used to them.
		I have never seen anything like this.
		Now, I cannot be sure.
		All I can tell you is I looked over at my Davis weather station.
		I was at KNYE, of course.
		Both Ramona and myself went down when this began, and I looked over.
		We were almost always in excess of 60 miles an hour.
		We were frequently in excess of 70 miles an hour, and it hit 84 miles per hour.
		Now, there is a significant amount of damage to our town, quite a bit of damage.
		There are obviously fences down.
		Buildings have blown over.
		Several houses have self-destructed.
		They're nothing more than a sort of pieces of small pieces of matchbox right now.
		We really, really got slammed.
		It was a very frightening experience for all concerned.
		And what we did was go down to our local station, PNYE, and get on the air and begin talking with people.
		And we were blessed.
		So many areas of town lost power.
unidentified		We didn't, but one short moment.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And we got on the air and began talking with local residents, taking reports of damage.
		It was so bad they didn't let the children out of school at the appointed time.
		Las Vegas also caught hell.
		But it's my understanding it wasn't quite as bad as what we got.
		McCarran International Airport was closed.
		The desert was a screaming mess.
		And all over town, there are downed power lines, there are downed trees.
		And by the way, a lot of people have trees over their homes right now.
		You're going to want to get that taken care of rapidly as there is more wind in the forecast for Wednesday.
		It was a very harrowing day.
		Now, it's kind of interesting because I've got tonight's guest in the next hour is going to be a storm chaser of all things.
		Warren Fatley is going to be here.
		He's a professional storm chaser and we'll have a lot to talk about because I used to do that.
		But what we had today.
		Oh my God.
		What we had today was incredible.
		It was beyond all belief.
		I'm telling you, it was just any cars that were out got a new paint job, or at least we'll have one.
		They were sandblasted.
		Our neighbor, here at the house, our neighbor, not that we were at the house, we stayed at the radio station and dutifully talked to people.
		But when we got home, we discovered our neighbor's roof has a very large section of it gone.
		And he needs to be notified of that fact.
		So if you're out there, bud, you need to check in.
		Portion of your roof there at the top is missing and not just tiles.
		You know, these very special tiles, but down to where you can see the insulation, and that's an obvious danger either for more wind or for any moisture.
		A lot of people in very serious trouble here.
		A lot of people lost a lot of possessions here in the desert today.
		It was awful.
		It was absolutely awful.
		And if you can think of 70 and 80 mile an hour winds, that went on for three solid hours.
		To a lesser degree, for probably all day until the sun finally went down.
		But all day long.
		And then for three hours, there was nothing but sheer terror.
		When you have 70 to 84 mile-an-hour winds, it's sheer terror.
		You have no idea what's coming down or what's probably going to come down.
		So I am going to restrict the first time caller line to people in Parump or the Southern California area that experienced this today.
		There is no doubt our weather is in the midst of a serious change and it is going to become more violent and stranger very, very quickly.
		That would seem apparent.
		I think George had a guest last night about a new ice age, the possibility of a new ice age.
		Well, that may be, or it may be global.
		You know, who knows?
		The only thing obvious out of it, while the scientists argue, is that there is a massive, massive change underway.
		And we got a taste of it here today.
		Whether the jet stream, of course, was over us or near us, it may have actually come down and touched down.
		Who knows?
		I have never in my life seen sustained winds like that here in the desert, and that would include about my short 15 years experience here in Perump, Nevada.
		Nothing like this has ever happened before.
		And I inquired of many, many local residents as I talked to them through the day.
		It was pretty scary if anybody had ever seen anything this bad before.
		Uniformly, they said, absolutely not.
		Well, all right, here we go.
		And again, I want to remind my audience that I'm just holding this first-time caller line open for people in the local area who experienced what I just told you about.
		You just can't imagine the damage around the valley, down trees, down power lines, homes destroyed or very heavily damaged, others not as heavily damaged.
		It just sort of ranged.
		It was awful, absolutely awful.
		On the first time caller line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		This is John from Sandy Valley.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		John, Sandy Valley is just, well, I don't know, how many miles from Peram?
unidentified		I think we were about 20 miles south of you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		About 20 miles south, right.
unidentified		Yeah, and I had my chain link fence ripped out with the poles bent completely over.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God, you lost a chain link fence?
unidentified		Yeah.
		Really strange.
		The poles bent, the cement held.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my gosh.
		All right, that gives people an idea of how severe.
		Have you ever seen anything like this?
unidentified		Nothing like it.
		I've been here 10 years, and I was flabbergasted.
		I walked out my back window and saw my fence laying down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And it just went on and on and on and on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You didn't have anything to measure wind speed there, did you?
unidentified		No.
unidentified		I live out here at the airport in Sandy Valley, and I'm sure somebody out here has.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure.
		I clocked it at, I saw it once at 84.
		I was so busy talking to prompt residents on the station that I didn't have time to constantly watch the wind speed, but I saw it once at 84.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
		Oh, I did want to mention to you, I wish K-9 was a little stronger signal.
		How come I can't get you down here?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You can't get us there, huh?
		Well, the reason is because, of course, you're in your own valley.
		A very, very serious valley, I might add.
unidentified		Well, that's the problem.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But if you get an antenna, in fact, I've been told if you get a, you know, like a beam antenna and you point it from there, or even that matter, parts of Las Vegas, you'll get us just fine.
unidentified		Yeah, I was wondering about one of them CC antennas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		CC, well, they've got a CC radio, not a CC radio.
unidentified		Or radio, yeah, but that may be a little bit more.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, give it a try.
		Yeah, you're in a locked-in valley, that's why.
		All right, sir.
unidentified		Well, I love your show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much for the call and take care.
		Incidentally, there is, I think you're going to be real surprised about this.
		There's a new squid.
		I mean, this is a really big squid.
		I've got a link up on the website right now.
		It says a new type of large squid reaching up to 23 feet, that's 7 meters long, has Been spotted in the deep waters of several ocean basins, including rather, according to a report published in the December 21st, 2001 issue of Journal Science, the open ocean covers more than two-thirds of the Earth's surface, yet scientists know very little about its inhabitants.
		In fact, the squids were seen eight times within a few years at similar depths in the Gulf of Mexico, the Atlantic, the Indian, and Pacific Oceans.
		That indicates how little we must know about life in the Earth's largest ecosystem.
		Now, there are two videos available.
		There's one still photograph of this squid.
		So it's not as though we're telling you stories here.
		Go to my website, artbell.com, click on what's new.
		Go in the up direction instead of down.
		You'll see updated news and other websites.
		You click on that.
		And then new giant deep sea squid.
		Click on that.
		And they've got some videos of it and still photographs.
		And it's absolutely astounding.
		I mean, this thing is an absolute monster.
		That's all you can say about it.
		It is a sea monster.
		So go take a look at a sea monster if you would like.
		I think you'll find it just an amazing sight that that's in our ocean, and we had no idea that it was.
		Okay, let me clear that line, and let's go here for a second.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		How you doing, Art?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Just fine, sir.
unidentified		You know, I have to kind of disagree with you on the wind.
unidentified		I've only been out here about 15 years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		I'm in Las Vegas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you're in Las Vegas?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, you see, Las Vegas didn't catch it quite as bad.
unidentified		Well, no, that's true.
		And I just want to say that basically, when you get a lot of wind, you'll generally get a lot of it in the desert.
		And I noticed since I've been here, I've had several occasions where the wind has blown steady, you know, over 35 miles an hour all day long.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
		I understand that.
		That's normal for the desert, but 84 miles an hour is not.
unidentified		Well, we've had it before since I've been here, so it's not that often.
		But my point tonight, what I was calling about, was if we want to utilize wind power, we shouldn't be doing it by simply putting a bunch of little turbines all over the land.
		Where the wind is, is up in the atmosphere.
		And if some of it's down here occasionally, well, that's all right, but that's not going to do us any good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What can happen is that the, I appreciate the call, what can happen is that the jet stream can dip down.
		And if you'll look at the position, excuse me, of the jet stream a little earlier today, you'll see it was right over us.
		Now, did that contribute to it?
		I don't know.
		I'm not a meteorologist, and I really can't.
		I guess, you know, might be able to answer it for all I know, but the jet stream was over us.
		I know there was a giant pressure gradient difference, and obviously when you have a clash of that kind of cold and hot air, you're going to get serious trouble, and that's what we had here today was very, very serious trouble.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		This is Danny and Prump.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Prump, hi there.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Tell them what it was like.
unidentified		Pretty bad.
unidentified		I don't know what happened, but something possessed me to walk across the street to the gas station.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you're in the middle of that?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
unidentified		I looked both ways, I guess, looking for headlights, and I made it both ways.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You made it both ways?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That was dangerous.
		We were to zero visibility, and when I say zero, I mean as you were driving, you could not see the hood of your car.
		People don't understand how bad it can get.
		I appreciate the call, sir.
		There's one here.
		Went out to a gas station in the middle of that, my God.
		And when I say zero visibility, in areas where you have snow, you can certainly get to zero visibility there.
		We were to zero visibility with dust.
		It probably just took the paint right off cars.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
unidentified		Jason Crow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Jason.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Tell him.
unidentified		Oh, man, that was bad.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It was just as bad as I have ever seen, Jason.
		The fellow from Las Vegas said, well, I've seen it like that before.
		I sure haven't.
unidentified		Yeah, I've been living in the desert for a lot of years.
		I didn't see that.
		I lost a third of my roof shingles and six trees.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You lost six trees.
unidentified		Yeah, one of my trees landed on my SS Impala, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, on your Impala?
unidentified		Yeah, I got a classic Impala.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I'm sorry, David.
unidentified		That hurts too bad.
		You know, that wasn't wind, Art.
		I kind of akin it to the devil's breath.
		That was.
		You know what I mean?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We lost a tree, snapped right, pine tree snapped right at the base, you know, the thickest part of the tree, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That was incredible.
unidentified		Yeah, it was, that wind was getting it.
unidentified		I was in my garage trying to get stuff, you know, to keep batting down the hatches like I talked to you last night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, so you heard our announcement, right?
unidentified		Yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you, in fact, batten down some of your hatches?
unidentified		I battened down as best I could, but I wasn't expecting that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Nobody could have expected that, sir.
		Something really happened.
		Either the jet stream dipped down or we had the most severe pressure gradient difference that the world has ever seen.
unidentified		Yeah, that was, I mean, I couldn't see 100 yards, man.
unidentified		I mean, that's how bad the sand was.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know.
		Well, at times driving, we couldn't see at all.
		In fact, we had to, on the way, we had to stop the car in the middle of the road simply because you couldn't even see your hood.
		Now.
unidentified		I believe it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I appreciate the call.
unidentified		Okay, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
		From right here, it was that bad.
		You had to actually stop the car.
		I mean, once you can no longer see your hood, you can't see whether anybody's behind you, in front of you, coming toward you, or for that matter, you can't see, obviously, you can't even see if you've got a shoulder on which to drive off on.
		So when you get to true zero visibility, the only thing you can really do is to come to a slow stop and hope to God that people behind you are doing the same thing.
		Because otherwise, you're going to run into something.
		So there's very little choice.
		When you actually get to complete zero visibility, there's doggone little choice.
		You do what you have to do, and that's kind of come to a crawl right on the road and pray.
		In fact, it was a kind of day around here where that's what you did for most of the day.
		You prayed.
		I'm Art Bell, and this is Coast to Coast AM.
		Just raging at you from the high desert, which has been raging with wind today.
unidentified		incredible I've got to ride by like a wind to be free again.
		And I've got something long way to go.
		Up the boat, we're doing to go.
		Up the boat, we're doing to go.
		Up the boat, we're doing to go.
		Up the boat, we're doing to go.
		Rechard Bell in the Kingdom of Nye.
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		East of the Rockies, 1-800-825-5033.
		First-time callers may rechart at 1-775-727-1222 or use the wildcard line at 1-775-727-1295.
		To rechart on the toll-free international line, call your AT ⁇ T operator and have them dial 800-893-0903.
		This is Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell on the Premier Radio Networks.
		Well, Art, we'll be back in a few moments.
		Hello, I'm Ramona Bell, bringing you a short report from our friends over at the Alamo Ranch who wanted to let us know that one of the ham operators here in town near Charleston Park and Warren lost half of their ham tower and also has a weather station that clocked a wind speed of 98 miles an hour.
		Now that is the scariest drive that I ever took leaving the house this afternoon, pretty close to noon, driving right over to the station and having to stop twice on our way over there because the sand and dust was so bad that it literally just blacked out the road around us.
		And the scary part was not the stopping.
		The scary part is the oncoming traffic that did not stop and decided that they were going to outrace the wind.
		So that's my small pet peeve right now.
		There were loose horses out and about.
		And thank you very much people who were out there trying to round them up for folks who might not have been home at the time or may not have been physically able to go on out and to round their animals up.
		So, you know, small bone to pick with you folks out there who wanted to outrace this storm.
		Next time you might not be so lucky.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Perfect.
		Just what we want to hear tonight for Crack Thunder.
		Actually, there was none.
		These were straight line winds, folks.
		80, 90, maybe even as much as 98 miles an hour, they measured.
		That was an interesting report.
		On the local line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hi.
		I live on Lexus just before you get to South Blank.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Here in Horop, you know.
unidentified		I mean, off Blank, just before you get to Gainbridge, right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, ma'am.
unidentified		And I have a pole barn with a steel roof and a steel frame, and it picked the entire thing up off the roof off the pole barn and laid it over in the neighbor's yard.
unidentified		But in the process of doing so, it took the power lines down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So it must have made it pretty high in the sky.
unidentified		Well, I wasn't home when it happened, but I made my way home.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but I mean, for all that stainless steel, to get up high enough to take the power lines down.
unidentified		Oh, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
unidentified		It must have.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where were you during the day in Las Vegas?
unidentified		Well, I had gone to the store, and then when I came out, I thought, my goodness, I don't want to drive home in this.
unidentified		So I went to the nugget and had something to eat.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good for you.
unidentified		And then I waited and waited, and I thought, I've got to get home to see what's going on.
unidentified		So I came home, and I drove in my barn, but I used for a garage, and the top wasn't there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The top wasn't there?
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This is giving people a pretty good idea of what we went through today.
		This kind of damage is across the valley.
		I mean, it's like we got slammed with a category three or four hurricane or something.
unidentified		Oh, it was terrible.
		It was absolutely terrible.
		And I could barely make my way home because it was so bad.
		No visibility.
		My little dog was so happy when I walked in.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How long have you been here?
unidentified		Ten years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Have you ever seen one like this?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Never.
unidentified		Never.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Me either.
		Never.
		Not even close.
unidentified		Not even close.
		This was amazing.
		And then I drove over to my son's.
		He built a house, a two-story house, a pool house, and he has also a garage with an apartment on top.
		And he's living in the apartment while he's finishing the house.
		And I thought, oh my goodness, I wonder what happened over there.
		So after it calmed down, I drove over there.
		And amazingly, nothing happened at his house.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Isn't that something?
unidentified		It really is because all the way there, I was seeing debris all over and shingles off.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And down power.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I saw a lot of trees over houses, those poor people.
unidentified		Oh, I know, I know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I tried to tell people, get out, take pictures of damage, you know, for insurance and that kind of thing.
unidentified		Yeah, I'm going to do that tomorrow, Which, hopefully, they have.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Thank you very much.
		You take care.
		Bye-bye.
		That's here in prompt.
		When they actually start giving streets, you know, it's right here in town.
		They're listening to KNYE.
		And we are holding the line open for people in town here at 727-1222.
		You're on the air at KNYE all day.
		Hello, where are you, sir?
unidentified		Right now I'm in Colorado, but I did go through your storm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I beg your pardon?
unidentified		I did go through your storm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You went through it in Colorado?
unidentified		In Utah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In Utah.
		Oh, well, yeah, I guess it would have passed through Utah, sir.
		Thank you, but we're holding this line open now for people right here in the immediate area.
		I would imagine the storm obviously had to pass points north in the last couple of days or days previous.
		But it didn't really become violent until it got here.
		And one of two things happened.
		Either the jet stream touched down on the ground or we had the pressure gradient difference of all time.
		It was unbelievable.
		Good morning.
		You're on the air.
unidentified		Hi, good morning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
		Turn your radio off, please.
		In the background, if you would.
		Okay.
		We have a delay system here.
		It'd be confusing.
		Where are you located?
unidentified		I'm at Prump Valley.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so you're right here in Prompt?
unidentified		Yeah, Prump Valley Boulevard in Gainburn.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, you're going to have to shut your radio all the way off.
unidentified		I did.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, good.
unidentified		Yeah, that was my neighbor that just called, lost her coal barn.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
unidentified		I lost part of the roof and then damaged the other part of the roof fence.
unidentified		But I'd just like to thank all those emergency guys out there, like the sheriffs and the fire department.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, as a matter of fact, the fire chief called in this afternoon when we were covering the storm when it was occurring.
unidentified		Yeah, I've got a paramedic buddy over there in Las Vegas with Clark County Fire Department, and I know he was busy today.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Incredible.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It was incredible.
unidentified		Supposedly had a big, big pileup, car pileup in Boulder City.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I wouldn't be surprised at all.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How long have you been in the area?
unidentified		I've been in southern Nevada 40 years.
		This is my fourth windstorm.
		I was in 100 mile an hour in, I think it was 1964.
		Really?
		Yeah, destroyed all the docks out at Lake Mead.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
unidentified		I was in a storm in Laughlin, Nevada, while we were building the Edison plant.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
unidentified		Had to sit in the boiler for about six hours.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, so you've got to agree, this ranks right up there with them.
unidentified		Oh, yeah, this was incredible, and you're so helpless.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely helpless.
unidentified		Yeah, I tried to get outside and do a little battening down of the hatches, but it is too dangerous out there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Too dangerous by then.
		You're absolutely right.
		Thank you so much.
unidentified		Hey, well, thank you for what you did today on the radio.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're very welcome.
		Bye-bye.
		Take care.
		Yeah, we just stood there.
		We sat there.
		You know, you've got to remember we had a 195-foot tower up above us, and so you could imagine we were giving that some fairly serious thought.
		You're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		I'm from Las Vegas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Las Vegas, yes, ma'am.
unidentified		It was incredibly windy.
		I went into work.
		I take the bus and the bus.
		You could feel the bus even blowing.
		And then friends of mine came in from work over the mountain and stuff.
		Yep.
		And they were just, they were worried about their cars.
		They were talking about how they were trying to depressurize their cars by opening the windows.
		That's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		It was enough.
		You got grit in your teeth.
		It was just crazy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I still, I took a shower, and I'm still picking grit out of my teeth and my eyes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And that was on my hair.
unidentified		Yeah, it's amazing.
unidentified		It's amazing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, thank you very much.
		That's a taste, folks, just giving you a little taste of what went on here today.
		The valley is strewn with things.
		It just blew everywhere.
		I mean, metal and wood and houses just turned into matchsticks and many of the mobile homes turned over, simply turned over, that kind of thing.
		Just awful.
		Good morning.
		You're on the air.
unidentified		Hey, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		I'm in Vegas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Las Vegas, yes, sir.
unidentified		Yeah.
		I've been here about eight years, and this is the worst I've ever seen.
		My wife works up in Indian Springs.
		Yeah, they sent her home today because they closed the whole town.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did they?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I understand they closed the Mercury test site.
unidentified		Yeah, they closed it all down.
		She runs the whole recreation area up there, and they sent all the kids home from school.
		And then out here in Vegas, there was a truck that turned over with a bunch of acid and a hazardous material in it, and they had to shut down the freeways.
		It was terrible out here.
		I've never seen anything like it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it covered all.
		It was a first item out, and long stories on all the local news.
		I really appreciate your call, sir.
		Thank you.
		It was bad in Las Vegas, but it was significantly worse here.
		I think our winds here were an easy 30 miles an hour better and probably lessened a little as it went over the mountain, but I understand it was also very, very bad in Las Vegas.
		On the first time, caller line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hey, Art.
unidentified		This is Wild Bill in Las Vegas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		I was in Salt Lake this afternoon, and they had exactly the same kind of storm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So it did come through Salt Lake.
unidentified		Yeah, 90-mile-an-hour winds, power poles blown down, trucks blown over, the whole bit.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'll tell you, my friend, we're going into a time when weather is, it's going to get more violent all the time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I guess we just had our own local taste of it here in the West.
unidentified		One of the first times I ever heard your show was when Ed Dames was on there talking about the wind.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How many years ago now?
		Well, you remember all those years ago, sir?
		What he said was, for the first time, the jet stream will begin to touch down.
		Yep.
		Well, I think it came down and touched us a bit.
unidentified		It sure hammered, didn't it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, thank you.
		Take care.
		Salt Lake.
		Yeah, that would make sense as it roared south.
		But boy, I'll tell you, when it got off into the high desert, you know, when it started rising up into the high desert, which is where we are, it was unbelievable.
		On our local line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		I know this is off the subject, but you remember the three people you had on the sitting in the trees trying to save the people?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, of course, yes.
unidentified		Yes.
		Did you hear yesterday in the news about?
		And they had just won their cost, and they were fixing to go home.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's what I heard.
unidentified		I just thought it ought to be mentioned.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate your mentioning it.
		Yes, one of them fell 150 feet out of a tree to, I believe, her demise.
		I read the story on it, I think, yesterday.
		Very sad.
		And I guess they felt they had accomplished their goal.
		And we're on the way home, and you know, that happened.
		On our local line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		How long?
unidentified		Let me turn the radio down here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Please.
unidentified		Hi there.
		Hi.
		I'm from Perrump.
		I happened to be in Los Angeles because my flight got diverted.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh?
		Yeah, I was in the camera.
		That's right.
		They closed McCarran International Airport in Las Vegas.
unidentified		Yeah, I was in Reno and my wife had called, and I guess our front lawn is clean now, and our television antenna is down.
unidentified		So if I was at home, I couldn't hear you anyway.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, we don't depend on TV.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You'd hear us, sir, believe me.
unidentified		Well, no, my radio antenna is also up there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well.
unidentified		So just wanted to let you know everybody was going nuts in the Reno Airport because all the flights from Las Vegas, everybody was just sitting there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know.
unidentified		I got wise and said, can I go to Los Angeles instead?
unidentified		I'm sitting here in L.A. waiting for my wife to show up and she's driving through the wind now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good luck, sir.
unidentified		Thank you, Tom.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
		The wind is significantly down now, of course, from what it was.
		Probably the worst of it was from about noon to 3 o'clock Pacific time.
		On our first time call our line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		All right.
unidentified		I live over here on Yumpka Terrace.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In Perump?
		Right.
		Okay.
unidentified		And it took about 20% of my roof.
		I have a tile roof.
		And one thing really got me.
		The dirt was blowing in.
		And I got a brand new home.
		But it blew in around the door.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		10 feet inside the room.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		10 feet inside.
		We had about, we had a very tight building.
		We had about five feet.
		It found its way in somehow or another.
		It was like, it was incredible.
		Have you ever seen anything like this?
unidentified		No, I've never seen anything like this.
		It just, I mean, it shook the house almost.
		Like, it had to be around 100 miles an hour.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there are people saying they clocked it at 98.
		You know, I was at the station and I was watching it, but I just couldn't keep my eyes on it all the time.
		We were talking to local people here, and so the best we could do is to just sort of glance over at it.
		And I caught it at 84, but I'm thinking it might have been up around 98.
unidentified		Yeah, because we're way at the west end here of town, and it comes right off that mountain over there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I know.
		Funnels right down.
		It's very dangerous.
		Well, this is the worst I've seen.
		Thank you.
		Okay.
		Take care.
		So we're undergoing some sort of change, a change in which not just the kind of weather you're hearing that I had here today, that we had here, but whether that's going to be different everywhere in some places perhaps that are normally violent, it will not be as violent.
		That's also one possibility.
		As a matter of fact, we've got a storm chaser coming on.
		There was a report on CNN the other day.
		There were actually fewer tornadoes.
		Now, that means a big change.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		To give kind of a pretty good description of what we went through today.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you here in Peru?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		I live on the north side and on the side of the hill up here.
unidentified		And my altitude here is approximately about 100 feet up from 160 from the flat.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		And I'd look to the south, and it's just like a tsunami coming, you know.
		And it's just...
		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Like a wall of dust.
unidentified		Like a wall of dust.
		I mean, like you said, the jet stream might have came down, and it probably did, because within 20 minutes, the whole town was covered.
		I could see practically the whole town.
		And within 20 minutes, I couldn't see nothing.
		And a little short time after that, I couldn't even see my fence out here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It was horrendous.
unidentified		It was terrible.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you lose anything?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Or you just had about half your rooftops?
unidentified		No, I'm pretty lucky on that.
		I've heard about some winds we could get around here, but nothing like this.
		And everything I got in mind, I built it to stay down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, you built it.
		Then it stayed down.
		Good for you.
unidentified		Luckily.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, sir.
		Thank you.
		You bet.
		Take care.
		It would also depend on the individual area you were in.
		But you can imagine when such an event occurs, that's equivalent to a category.
		What would it be?
		Three or four hurricanes?
		Three at least, huh?
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hey, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
		Charles.
		Where are you?
unidentified		I'm in Tacopa, Hot Springs, right over the border from you, 32 miles southwest.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		And I'm picking you up on K-N-Y-E.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Way to go.
unidentified		Real clear, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		And I want to thank you very much for that t-shirt you left on my truck.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you're very welcome.
unidentified		Prompt.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you're very welcome.
unidentified		And you're right.
unidentified		This weather is getting real kind of pretty scary.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Like off the charts, I would say.
unidentified		Yeah, I would say it was, too.
		I've never seen nothing like it.
		I've driven through the desert during the April and March months.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you've been.
unidentified		And I've seen heavy winds.
unidentified		That's usually when the heavy winds are coming through the desert.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		But this wind today was not normal.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
unidentified		It was way above it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Way above normal.
unidentified		In fact, I'm in the park here, and one of the trees was being uprooted right in front of our eyes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You watched it?
unidentified		Yeah, a 50-foot tree.
		And it was going to fall on this guy's trailer.
		So I got up on a tree with a saw and I cut off a couple of limbs.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In the middle of all this?
unidentified		In the middle of all this.
		And I tell you what, that tree was shaking like you wouldn't believe.
		In fact, the ranger, the park ranger, came around and said, get off of that tree.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That wasn't real.
unidentified		No, but either it was going to fall.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you do what you can, I guess.
		That was heroic.
		Very heroic of you.
		Not maybe too smart, but heroic.
unidentified		No, not too smart.
		I've never been too smart.
		But this tree, I swear, you could see it being uprooted two or three inches each time.
		And I thought it was going to go completely over.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you mean, so in other words, it was just sort of like slowly coming up out of the ground?
unidentified		Right.
		every time a gust would hit it, it would pick the tree up a few more inches off the ground.
		The gusts were about, I'd say, 10 to 15 miles faster than the average flow of the air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
unidentified		And but this whole valley in here, you couldn't see the mountain range anywhere.
		And we're south of Death Valley, about 50 miles, I guess.
		And this whole valley in here was just covered with dust.
		And like you say, it just about sandblasted my truck, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And did it?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sorry to hear it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you're how many miles away now?
unidentified		What, 32 miles southwest?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		32 miles southwest.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you hear KNYE just fine there, huh?
unidentified		I hear KNYE.
unidentified		Very good, very good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you hear us doing the reports during this message?
unidentified		No, I was too busy fighting this out here.
unidentified		It was really that bad.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much.
unidentified		Okay, all right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And take care.
		We just went down there and did reports through the whole thing onto this 195-foot tower.
		And so it was a pretty harrowing day.
		Just giving you an idea.
		Local line, you're on the air.
		Hello?
unidentified		Yes, Bill, Salt Lake City?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		We got the exact same thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So it came right through Salt Lake.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What kind of damage up there?
unidentified		Giant power poles toppling over on apartment buildings.
unidentified		They had to evacuate apartment buildings, schools.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my gosh.
unidentified		Because of the bouncing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		About what time did it come through, sir?
unidentified		This is about 2 o'clock.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This afternoon.
		Right.
		Wow.
unidentified		And it lasted about an hour.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Then it, oh, for an hour.
unidentified		At least an hour, but the whole state did just kept going south, and they had newscasters throughout the state picking up as it came through.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It was an incredible event.
unidentified		Well, now it's snowing.
		It was 83 degrees yesterday afternoon.
		Now it's snowing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you kidding?
unidentified		No, it's snowing.
		It's a blizzard, actually.
		It's snowing pretty hard.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I wonder if that's what's waiting for us or coming toward us now.
unidentified		Well, the weather.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, because, as I mentioned, my immediate neighbor here, a fellow named Dave, part of his roof is gone.
		And I mean, it's gone down to where you can see the insulation flapping up.
		Oh, yeah.
		And if it rains, that's not going to be good at all.
unidentified		Well, the city's dark.
unidentified		Most areas, there's no power.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate your call, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, that's what happened today in the West, folks.
		We had one hell of a day.
		From the High Desert, I'm Mark Belt.
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		What a show that'll be.
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		He left his ladybird.
		Ladybird, come down.
		I'm here waiting on the ground.
		Ladybird, I'll treat you good.
		Ah, Lady Bird, I wish you would you, Lady Bird, pretty ladybird.
		Lightning moment You are all the woman I need, and baby, you know me, low.
		She said that I'd kill you a kind of a fool, baby I'll give you all that I want You got the baby in your life, you got the gold Leave me somewhere Make me shake like any way you want me Love me, you love me, it's alright
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		This is Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell from the Kingdom of God.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Reading my past blast, I'm seeing a path of destruction from Utah on down, and apparently it was really, really awful in Utah as well.
		Salt Lake City posted the lowest barometric pressure today, and they had a 12-car pileup there.
		Winds, they claim, up to 100 and over 100 miles an hour.
		Incredible.
		Coming up, this is kind of an interesting segue.
		Warren Fadley is a photojournalist and cinematographer who specializes in extreme weather and natural disasters.
		I don't mean to laugh here.
		It's just what we went through.
		He is the only journalist storm chaser in the world who covers natural disasters as a full-time, year-round profession.
		Should have been here today.
		Over the last 15 years, Warren has traveled across thousands of miles, covering 15 states.
		His travels have been filled with moments of wonder, beauty, oftentimes shadowed by terrifying encounters and personal sacrifice.
		His breathtaking images of graphic and sometimes violent events are seen in books, advertisements, magazines, public safety publications like Life, National Geographic, Scientific American, Newsweek Time, USA Today, and more.
		He's a frequent guest speaker at universities, corporate events, and safety educational functions.
		Often serves as a severe weather and disaster consultant on television and radio programs like MSNBC and CNN.
		Warren has appeared on many TV shows and in magazines, including Nova, PBS, the History Channel, Discovery, Weather Channel, CBS, NBC, ABC News, the BBC.
		Oh my, it goes on and on.
		National Geographic Explorer, Eye to Eye, with Connie Chung, Maury Povich, Tom Snyder, Fox News, Real TV, and the Emmy Award-winning show Front Runners.
		He was recently a contestant.
		On to tell the truth.
		No kidding.
		He is a consultant for the motion picture industry.
		He was one of the initial consultants for Twister.
		Oh, yes, Twister.
		One of Warren's tornado images was used for the movie poster and product line.
		Oh, really?
		His diverse film and video credits include Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Huff Daddy, Paul McCartney, MTV Jurassic Park, Michael Jordan, a variety of television commercials for clients like NASCAR, the NFL, NBA, GMC, and Turner Broadcasting.
		And he will be up in a moment.
		Well, Warren, welcome to the program.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, thank you very much for having me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you physically right now?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Physically, I'm in Tucson, Arizona.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Tucson, Arizona, huh?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, tell me, did you hear about this mess in the West?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I sure did.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		We had some of the winds down here, but certainly not the intensity that you guys had up there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they were definitely clocking near 100 miles an hour.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, as a storm chaser, can you give me some idea of what the hell happened to us today?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, to put it as simple as you can, it was just a very intense low-pressure system, and we have these all the time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So it was a pressure gradient then, different.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Correct, right.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the atmosphere is always trying to balance.
		You know, you have the holes, which are the low pressure, and you have the highs, which are the building pressure, if you want to look at it that way.
		And this was just one of those holes in the atmosphere being rapidly filled with flowing air.
		And on the surface, that translates into really high winds.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I tell you, we dived 30 degrees in an extremely short time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So that tells you how much energy was at battle, I guess is a way to put it.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the atmosphere is battling between the high and the low pressures all around the globe.
		And this one just happened to be centered over your neck of the woods.
		And as you said earlier, it's almost like the jet stream coming down.
		Technically, that's not what happens.
		But when you have winds that strong, you know, the jet stream usually runs between 80 and 200 miles per hour.
		So you guys were somewhere right in the middle.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, definitely.
		Oh, gosh, the damage.
		Anyway, that's nothing new to you, I guess.
		You have been a storm chaser now for how long?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Oh, going on almost 20 years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		20 years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're crazy.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Blink of an eye.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely crazy.
		I did the same thing, Warren.
		I was an amateur.
		I was stationed at Amarillo Air Force Base in Texas, up in the Panhandle of Texas.
		That's in the middle of Tornado Alley.
		And I had a very good friend who's become a meteorologist.
		He has done so for a television station down in Lake Charles, Louisiana named Lynn Woodlake.
		And Lynn and I used to take off from the Air Force Base and chase these thunderheads, these roll clouds.
		We chased a few right on up into Oklahoma in a stupid little Volkswagen taking footage to sell to local TV stations.
		And how I came out of that alive, I have no idea.
		Now, I didn't go on to be the weathernut that my friend did, and obviously you've gone well beyond that.
		But what possesses a person to put themselves in the way of danger like this?
		I mean, severe, life-threatening type danger?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, for me, it's a journalistic pursuit.
		It started off that way.
		I started out as a newspaper magazine journalist and wanted to do something different.
		I mean, I had friends who specialized in news or fashion or sports, and I thought, well, you know, no one's doing weather.
		There's no photojournalist out shooting weather exclusively.
		So at the time, it was just really accidental.
		I fell into something that no one else was doing, and there was a vacuum for those kinds of images.
		And what at first I thought was going to be a serious hobby or a sideline turned into a full-time business.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So in other words, when you know that weather is going to hit or is very likely to hit, what do you do?
		Start driving?
		Get on an airplane?
		In other words, how does a photojournalist interested in covering weather disasters, how does he get around?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's a good question because you almost have to be there with weather.
		You know, breaking news, you can go to a scene.
		You either get there too early or too late or at the right time, and then you get the shot.
		With weather generally requires a little bit of pre-planning.
		For example, you were talking about Amarillo.
		In about two weeks, I take off and meet some of my chase volunteers in Amarillo, and we'll chase from that location through the rest of the spring into mid or late June.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There you go.
		Now, I heard an interesting stat on CNN the other day.
		They said that this year thus far, we have had not anywhere near the number of tornadoes that we would normally have, which indicates some kind of change is going on, apparently.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		As a matter of fact, I think the count right now is at about 59.
		There may have been another one or two today, but the official count's at 58.
		Usually this time of year, the preliminary count is somewhere around 150, maybe 200.
		So we're way behind.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a big difference.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Even more amazing is the fact that as of the 13th of April, this is the longest period we have gone in U.S. history without a tornado fatality.
unidentified		That's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's what I heard.
		That's what was on CNN.
		That's amazing.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, 1961 was the last time, and that went right up to April 12th.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		we've set a new record.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, in your profession, do you have any guesses about...
		People have noted, for example, this year that there doesn't seem to be a springtime.
		People have gone from winter straight into summer, and they're missing the seasonal change.
		It's getting radical.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Very true.
		And as a matter of fact, if you look at some of the data from this year, this is a very unusual year.
		Not only the tornado counts down, but the number of very strong cold fronts that usually go down into the deep south and create these storms.
		We haven't had those this year.
		So the whole pattern has suddenly shifted Into a very benign system.
		Of course, today, if you were in Las Vegas, you wouldn't be thinking that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		But, you know, these weather patterns change over years.
		If you look, for example, at tree ring research, where they take the very old trees and cut them in half, of course, and look at the actual rings, they can tell there are fluctuations every so many hundred years or even thousands of years if you look at some of the other fossilized data.
		So we go through these swings, and we may be at this time in our history preparing to go through a major change.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I would say it's probably underway right now, actually.
		I have no idea.
		They're upping the forecast for the number of hurricanes they think there's going to be.
		I know an El Niño is building quickly again in the Pacific, and so I guess we're really in for it, which means that business for you is probably going to be pretty interesting.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, unfortunately, you know, when you have these lulls, when things slow down, I get a little bit nervous because that usually means that Mother Nature's going to find some kind of a way or method to make up for it.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		So, you know, the quiet before the storm fits the situation.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You officially call yourself a storm chaser, right?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		That's the title.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Journalist.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Storm chasing journalist.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So in what way are you different from other chasers when you're out there?
		I recall we were simply, when I did it, we just wanted footage.
		Boy, when those tornadoes would begin to dip down or touch ground, we were on it with footage, probably ignoring life and limb.
		But Lynn, who's a meteorologist, knew which side of the storm to keep us on.
		He probably kept me alive, I'm sure.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's quite dangerous in that part of the country when you have those supercell thunderstorms.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		But you have to remember the majority of people that chase, believe it or not, this may shock some people, there's probably about 200 or 300 hardcore people who chase just for the thrill of it, for the fun of it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Just for the thrill.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		The thrill of it.
		Now, some of these people do it.
		They've been doing it for years.
		As a matter of fact, the first real storm chasers, the first people that went out and did it for the enjoyment began in the 1950s.
		And since Twister, the number of people have gone up into the hundreds.
		As a matter of fact, you can go out on any big storm day now in the plains, as you used to do in Amarillo.
		You would be shocked.
		You'll see hundreds of cars lining the road traveling towards these storms.
		Really?
		It's completely, in some places, it's gotten completely out of control.
		And matter of fact, some people have suggested legislation.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I can't defend myself because I think I probably did it.
		You know, I was a young airman.
		I was stupid.
		And I did it.
		I'm sure I did it for the thrill.
		I'm sure that was a big part of the equation.
		We were taking footage and we were selling that.
		And that was a good little business for a while.
		But frankly, it was a thrill.
		And I remember a movie.
		You remember the movie about the shark and the beach and all the rest of it?
		Yes.
		It kind of reminds me of that, I suppose, anyway.
		Anyway, listen, what do you do?
		When you go out, who do you go out with?
		If you take off after one of those big cells where you believe that a tornado might develop, what do you take with you?
		How do you protect yourself?
		I'm sorry.
		Have you ever actually, for example, had a tornado cross over you?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		I've had the winds that feed into a tornado, the forming tornado hit the vehicle I was driving back in Kansas in the early days of chasing when I didn't know any better.
		I drove right into the area where the circulation actually begins.
		And you can tell because there's very strong wind shifts all of a sudden.
		And you notice things just aren't right.
		The winds, matter of fact, they'll go from one direction to the next direction without warning all of a sudden and then back the other way.
		So that was a good indication that I was in the wrong place.
		But no, I've never actually been inside a tornado.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You've seen the classic footage, of course, of the people who were caught under the freeway bridge as a tornado passed directly above them or over them.
		That's incredible.
		What would have happened to the barometric pressure below these people?
		Wouldn't they have lost eardrums, that sort of thing?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		No, the pressure doesn't actually drop that much from what they know.
		There's people who have been, and that's a great example, people who have been very close to tornadoes, and there's even instrumentation relatively close to some of the larger tornadoes.
		The pressure wouldn't drop enough to hurt you.
		But they found recently that underpasses are probably one of the least likely places you want to be during a tornado because they actually channel the winds.
		So the old theory about going to an underpass has changed in recent years, and it's not the best place to be.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Although better than, I suppose, out on the flat.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, it depends.
		If you can find a small depression, you have to remember these winds, which can reach 318 miles per hour in an F5 tornado, are right above the surface.
		So theoretically, if you can find a very small ditch, those winds will go right over you.
		The problem you have is debris, debris flying within that zone of destruction can hit you.
		And there have been cases recently where people did the right thing.
		They did find a small ditch.
		They laid in the ditch, and debris ended up hitting them and killing them.
		So the best advice is to be as far away from a tornado as you can be if you see one coming.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, again, circling back to that famous shark movie I was talking about, I remember a scene in which a bunch of good old boys with beer and guns, they were overloading a boat and on their way out to kill that there shark, you know.
		And I remember a scene in which one of the officials was standing on the shore just shaking his head, going, they're dead.
		You know, they're dead.
		And it's kind of like the hundreds of storm chasers that you're talking about.
		They go off out of Amarillo and other places during the really worst of it and chase these things.
		You really think there ought to be some sort of legislation about this?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't really think there should be, but there are people who have proposed it because it is getting out of control.
		I mean, it's not unusual to see the roads lined with cars.
		I mean, literally lined as far as you can see.
		And you have to remember, there's a lot of people chasing who have a legitimate reason to be there.
		There are journalists, there are scientists, there are spotters who are out there to warn the community.
		So there's a lot of people who chase responsibly, and even the people who chase for fun, a lot of these guys and gals will report what they see.
		You know, they're not out there just to have fun.
		They actually will call the weather service and report something if they see it, or if there's an accident, they'll stop and help.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But there is a good old boy aspect to it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		People just out there, let's go see a tornado, honey.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you've got your locals now.
		And the weather stations in Tornado Alley do such a wonderful job now of covering.
		I mean, they're on live when there's a storm.
		Listeners who have never been in the plains would be amazed.
		I mean, it's continuous live coverage with a radar that shows you right where the storm is.
		Well, a lot of people see that now, and they get in the car and they tear after the tornado.
		So you've not only got the chasers from other areas, you've got the local people going out to take a look.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you've even got the reports of radar, so if you're chasing, you know right where to go.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Oh, absolutely.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		And people nowadays, of course, have satellites or televisions in their cars, so it's not hard to find a tornado nowadays.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, when you see a front developing or something that's obviously going to produce a tornado or very likely will of an F4 or F5 or IT, something really awful in the Midwest, do you get on a plane and move or what do you do?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, there are systems occasionally.
		April 26th, 1991, I believe that was the year when there was a major outbreak of tornadoes.
		You could tell days in advance.
		You could see the system coming.
		But most of the time with tornado chasing, you actually place yourself, as you know, as you used to do in Amarillo, in the best location.
		And from about, oh, the last week in April through about the second or third week in June, somewhere within that region, now it may be Midland Texas all the way up to almost the Canadian border, there will be somewhat of a regular season.
		You may have to do quite a bit of traveling, but there will be tornadoes every few days.
		So once you're there, it's a matter of forecasting.
		It's a matter of going over the data.
		The trucks we use for chasing all have weather computers and cell phones and laptops and all these wonderful gadgets.
		So we're forecasting continuously.
		From the morning when the first reports come out, we're looking at data throughout the whole day on our laptops and refine our chase area to one location.
		And then, of course, once the storms go up, it's more of a visual chase than it is so much of a data chase at that point.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How many times have you come close to dying?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, my first storm chase, believe it or not, at age 12, I got the wacky idea here in the desert to go out.
		And as you know there, when it rains, being flat out here, the little washes, as we call them, fill up with water.
		And I got the bright idea to go out and have my first storm chase.
		Well, unfortunately, part of the bank gave way and I was swept down this flooded ravine.
		Went through the near-death experience and little movie.
		What movie there was at age 12 flashed before me.
		Oh, really?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You actually had an NDE?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Actually had that.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		And I can remember it to this day.
		And, of course, at 12 years old, there's not much, but there was a little significant, you know, fast-moving little movie that everyone talks about.
		And to this day, I can vividly remember it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Listen, hold on.
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		Warren Faitley is my guest.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		My guess is Warren.
		Haley is one of the premier storm chasers in America, and we've got a lot of storms to chase in America.
		I just got a really interesting email.
		It says, hi, Art.
		My name is Frankie Munis, and I'm probably slaughtering your name.
		I hope not, Frankie.
		He says, I play on Fox's Malcolm in the Middle, where I play Malcolm.
		My friend Haley turned me on to your show, and I think the show is really interesting.
		So interesting.
		Every night I go to bed, I flip it on, listen the whole night while I'm asleep.
		Anyway, I heard your show on the shadow people, and I still believe in them.
		Well, just wanted to write and tell you I'm a big fan.
		Best wishes in the near future.
		That's Malcolm.
		Best wishes to you too, Malcolm.
		We're big fans of your show, and I suspect we've been watching you longer than you've been listening to us, but it's good to have you aboard.
		It'd Be a lot of fun to interview you one night if you would enjoy doing that.
		I'm sure we could fit in an hour's slot for Malcolm.
		That's an incredible show, and it deserves every single award that it's received.
		And boy, it's received a lot of them.
		All right, we'll get back to the weather and storm chasing, and there's just been a lot of weather here, so it's a grand topic for me this night.
		All right, Warren, this may be outside your immediate storm chasing experience.
		However, it may relate to what we're talking about tonight.
		You know, we've got a situation in the world right now where, for example, the Larson B ice shelf just collapsed and is in a million pieces right now and can be seen from satellite down at the Antarctic.
		At the North Pole, our Navy is talking about a new ocean because it's melting.
		No more subs being able to hide under the ice up there because there won't be any ice.
		In Alaska, the tundra is melting.
		I mean, there are some fairly significant changes going on in the world right now, and that's bound to affect your work.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		And over the course of the last 20 years, I've noticed changes.
		The best example, if you ask anyone here in the southwest, in Tucson, about the summer monsoons, they'll tell you that in the last 10 to 15 years, the monsoons have changed.
		As a matter of fact, most of what I would consider my best lightning shots were accomplished 10 or 15 years ago when we had a large volume, a large number of summer thunderstorms.
		But in the last 10 or 15 years, that number has dropped off.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we also have the same monsoons you do, and they just don't come up here anymore.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and I mean, that's all over the country.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		You can talk to people that have been in one area long enough to notice changes, some of them very subtle, changes in wildlife, the number of animals or amphibians in a certain area, all these things, you know, collectively they do signal that something is changing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Something major is in the middle of a change.
		That's right.
		And so you really kind of work at the macro level.
		In other words, you look for a major event of some sort, and you make your way to it for photographic and journalistic reasons.
		So your material appears, I guess, all over the place, huh?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		All over the world.
		I've been published in probably almost every news magazine, certainly here in the United States and even in foreign countries.
		And it's amazing some of the things weather photos are used for.
		I've seen them used for everything from puzzles to on cigarette lighters, billboards, you name it.
		When you think about it, if you consciously think about it, pick up a magazine in your house right now, you'll probably find a stock-type weather photo.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So, you know, that's really true.
		I really hadn't thought a lot about that.
		So there's really a pretty good market for what you do.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Oh, absolutely.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		And then you have, of course, the film and video end, which opens up a whole new area of interest.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I have watched a couple of specials on tornadoes, and I've seen some of the F5 tornadoes, and it's hard to imagine anything on Earth more frightening than something of that magnitude.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I take it you've seen them.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		I've seen one F5.
		Matter of fact, the first major tornado I ever encountered on April 26, 1991, very close to it.
		Matter of fact, I almost drove into it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		It was so large, it really looked like a dust cloud.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		It looked like, or actually it looked like more like a cloud of smoke.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where was this?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		This was near Red Rock, Oklahoma.
		And as a matter of fact, the scientists were near the same tornado with portable Doppler instruments, and they actually recorded the highest wind speed ever recorded of a storm.
		And that was, I believe, 318 miles per hour, which is the top-range top end of an F5.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Actually, our atmosphere is only capable, they think, of supporting a certain wind speed under any condition.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Isn't that true?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, if you look at the physics, you know, and weather, one of the things that fascinates me is the physics involved.
		You know, if you're talking about a softball-sized cell phone falling at 100 miles per hour, if you're talking about the wind speed, the damage from tornadoes, there's no doubt that there have been tornadoes with winds that have exceeded the 318 range.
		Some of the damage is incredible.
		There's one wonderful story the old-timers in Nebraska like to tell about a tornado back, I believe it was in the 40s or 50s, it hit and carried away farm machinery that they've never found.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They've never found.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		found.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Which would mean to you...
		You would think something of that substance, I mean, it would certainly take some of it out, but the major body of the thing would have to have more or less survived.
		And so, oh, gosh, I wonder if that'll turn up in a desert in Africa somewhere.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		You never know.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		There may be some munchkin driving it around in the land of Oz right now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there may be.
		Do you particularly chase?
		Are tornadoes your specialty, or do you look at all kinds of weather and disasters?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, I chase everything.
		I start in the winter with blizzards and work the way through the spring with tornadoes and then lightning in the desert southwest during the summer, late summer, and then, of course, hurricanes along the Gulf, the Atlantic, and occasionally down in Baja during the late fall.
		And then I usually get three or four months to relax and go through everything and do the marketing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		May I ask you a question?
		I'm also whether or not, and when there's a hurricane, for example, I watch CNN like a lot of other people.
		And do you know some of the CNN correspondents by any chance?
		I would think you'd brush up against them occasionally.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		I have run into them.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		You have run into them on different stories.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've always wondered, you know, during a hurricane, the practice lately has been to take some poor correspondent who doesn't seem to have anything better to do that day, I guess, and say, listen, you're on an airplane.
		You're going down to where we think the eye of the hurricane is going to be.
		And here's this poor guy hanging on to a lamp pole, you know, with a camera Pointed at him, and you wonder, man, he drew the shot strong.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, I tell you what, most journalists, and I believe there's even old footage of Dan Rather recovering those storms, and I could be wrong, and I've heard him say once that he enjoyed covering those kind of storms.
		You know, there's just some attraction to weather.
		It's not, as in news, and one of the reasons I got out of news was there was all this violence, man against man, you know, and now, of course, we have the terrorism.
		I didn't want to cover that because to me, that was just something completely out of control.
		And if you were killed by it, it would be, in my opinion, somewhat worthless in the scheme of things.
		While on the other hand, nature, which is just so magnificent, no one has any control over.
		You know, you can't have a peace accord to end all the supercells in Texas tomorrow.
		They're going to happen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, actually, there's another side of this, and a lot of people won't understand it.
		But I've not seen an F5, but I've seen plenty of tornadoes.
		And the listeners aren't going to understand this because people have been killed, and a lot of houses have been destroyed, and towns have been destroyed.
		But there's something incredibly beautiful about that demonstration of nature.
		Beautiful is a dangerous word to use, but it's true, isn't it?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		To see a storm that's towering over three times the height of Mount Everest or close to it sometimes.
		Oh, yeah.
		And just the colors and the power and the energy of that and the light, the light, the way the light plays on these storms, it's just beautiful.
		And, you know, people usually have two opinions.
		They're either terrified of storms, as a lot of people probably were in your area today, or they're fascinated.
		It seems that people's interest swings one way or the other.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's fascinating to listen to if you weren't in it.
		And perhaps when we look back on it, we can say, remember the storm of 2002?
		Then it'll be fascinating.
		In the middle of it today, it was simply downright frightening.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		And that's the thing about weather.
		And, you know, it's interesting, if you've noticed, whenever there's wind damage, and I'm not talking about today, but I'm talking about usually associated with a regular storm where there's precipitation involved.
		People will always insist, if there's any damage, that it was a tornado.
		And I've noticed this over the years.
		It's kind of fascinating.
		If there's any kind of wind damage, it's almost like people want it to be a tornado.
		They will insist, if you see them on the news or if you see them at the scene, they'll always say it was a tornado.
		Even if the damage is all in one direction and it's obviously just straight line wind damage.
		It's amazing how people are so fascinated.
		They want to associate that damage with something like a tornado.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's because their brains are trying to assimilate what could have done this, and they just don't believe anything other than something as violent as a tornado could have done that much damage.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's where it comes from.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I understand you've got a chase truck, which you call Archangels.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why Archangel?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, I really can't tell you.
		I figured that after all these years of chasing and surviving, I must have some kind of an angel.
		That's the best reasoning I can give you for the name.
		But yeah, it's a custom design chase truck.
		It has just about everything you can imagine inside of it from the fibrillator in case we run across an accident or someone is struck by lightning, which is one of the biggest dangers when you're chasing.
		To computers, safety equipment has a full five-point harness system like NASCAR in it and a roll cage.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Aren't you afraid of the electromagnetic effects on all that electronic equipment out in the middle of cells?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, the truck has been hit by lightning.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		It was hit last year in eastern Colorado, and the only thing it suffered was one of the driving lamps that blew out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Scared the living heck out of me.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		But I think I would much rather have a truck out there that was attracting the lighting with me in it and being relatively safe inside a vehicle, which you are, as opposed to being standing out there and having me being the biggest target.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's true.
		And I suppose you're sitting on rubber.
		As long as you're on rubber, you're probably pretty much okay.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, as long as the windows are up and you're not touching anything that's grounded to metal, you're safe.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Now, there have been, believe it or not, this is rather bizarre, but there have been instances where people were driving and the tires actually blew out and they lost control of the vehicle.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it blew out the tires.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		It will blow out the tires.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		That is relatively common when vehicles are hit by lightning, or I should say it's not uncommon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So all four tires could go at once?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, all four, one or two.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		So it's something to keep in mind when you're driving in a heavy lightning car.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, that's actually the lightning then finding its way to ground through the metal of your car and then ultimately through the rubber of the tire and just blowing it up.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, probably through the rim somehow, and it probably, I would imagine, this is just a guess, probably superheats the air inside the tire somehow through the process.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Either that or just goes straight through the rubber on its way to ground.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		That may be it, too.
		Well, actually, believe it or not, it usually just goes right to the frame.
		Again, you get into this physics of storm chasing, which absolutely fascinate me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We used to know, when I would chase the storms out of Amarillo, we'd watch those roll clouds, and we would know when the conditions were just right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Can you feel it, too?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		You can feel it when the conditions are right, but you know, it's very difficult on a big day to predict what will happen.
		And I remember a couple times last year when we had what's labeled as a moderate risk or a high risk.
		And that's a level that the Storm Prediction Center uses to grade, in layman's terms, the risk potential on a given day.
		And you can feel the energy.
		You know, after Chase this many years, I can tell by the way the sky looks in the morning.
		I can tell by the way the wind.
		Sometimes you can tell by the smells, the moisture in the air.
		You can occasionally smell the golf as it works its way up into Texas.
		Oh, my.
		And those days, you know you're going to see something.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know there's a lot of energy in the air and something big is going to happen.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Something big is going to happen.
		Now, there are many days when the atmosphere is capped off.
		And a lot of people would say, well, you had these giant winds today and these winds were blowing into the plains.
		Why didn't you have a lot of storms?
		And the answer is lack of moisture and also the upper atmosphere was warm.
		But you just never know.
		On any day, you may go out and see the most magnificent storm or the most magnificent tornado you can ever imagine, and you may see nothing.
		And that's one of the things I know attracts me and other people to chasing is that unknown.
		And as I've told people before, it's like opening up a birthday present every day when you're out there.
		You just never know what you're going to find.
		And to me, that unknown is just so intriguing.
		You could never give it a bit.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, a lot of people are asking.
		I get these fast blast computer messages while I'm on the air, and they're saying you keep using the term straight-line winds.
		In my opinion, that's what we had here today was straight-line winds approaching 100 miles an hour.
		Now, what does straight line mean versus, I guess, obviously a tornado is a twister.
		It's in rotation, right?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Correct.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Straight-line winds are just one direction.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		In other words, for example, when the air falls from a thunderstorm and hits the ground, it moves out laterally in one direction.
		With a tornado, you have circulation, so the damage would be in a different type of pattern.
		The weather researchers or the people that go out and do damage surveys will look for this.
		They'll go and look at the weather data and see which way the wind was blowing and see if the damage relates to that.
		Of course, today there was no question.
		It was straight-line winds.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Here in the desert, we have these things called dust devils, and they look for all the world like miniature tornadoes.
		Now, what is the difference in the physics, if there is a difference, between a dust devil and a tornado that's formed as a result of a, or, you know, comes from, is mothered from a thunderstorm?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, they're both rotating columns of air.
		They're both a type of vortices.
		The difference is a tornado is associated with a thunderstorm.
		Right.
		A dust devil is more of a thermal feature, which results from the thermals rising from the desert floor, and usually associated with high temperatures and sometimes a little wind.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They can approach some pretty good winds.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		They can.
		And as a matter of fact, here in Tucson, back I believe it was in the 40s or 50s, a military cargo plane crashed after it flew into one.
		So they can be strong.
		I've heard winds that can reach 40, 50, maybe 60 miles per hour.
		I'm sure there's exceptions that have gone even higher than that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, and you go from dead still to 60 miles an hour.
		Boom, like that.
		Absolutely.
		It passes over.
		I just have five zillion questions.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		The note about dust devils, we were talking earlier about my first chase, is after the flood I chased, I then moved on to dust devils.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		So it was kind of interesting you brought that up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You moved on to dust devils?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		On my little back then we called it a little spider bike.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no kidding.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		And I borrowed a pair of welding goggles from a kid and wrapped myself up in a winter jacket.
		You can imagine it was 115.
		Of course, when you're a kid, you don't care.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I can't imagine chasing dust devils.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		And we would sit out.
		I had a group of three or four kids and we would sit out in the corner of this giant vacant dirt lot, out in the 110, 115 degree temperature, waiting for the right dust devil.
		And off we'd go, riding into the center.
		And there was a couple of occasions I actually got into the middle of them.
		I remember the interior, the first thing was it was as hot as a blast.
		You could barely breathe.
		I don't know exactly what physics are involved in there, but the inside temperature was even hotter than the outside.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I was going to ask.
		I wonder if there's some sort of barometric pressure difference.
		There must be in the center of that.
		The rotation must cause it.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		It may be the pressure.
		It can be, you know, the way the air is condensed inside of it.
		Who knows?
		But I remember looking inside and you could actually see the wall, the dust going around me.
		And it was kind of a weird, eerie, dusty yellow look.
		And you could actually see the tube going up into the sky.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's really weird to be right in the center of it and to watch the wall all around you.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		You know, and I've thought about in recent history nowadays to go back and do it with some professional equipment and see if I can actually photograph it or videotape it.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Of course, I'm sure if I was out there doing it, it probably wouldn't be too long until the guys in little white uniforms show up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Probably not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you get approached by local authorities frequently when you're out?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Yes, as a matter of fact.
		Most of the time, the local authorities want some kind of weather update.
		And I have a pretty good working relationship with most of them as I do with the Weather Service offices throughout the plains.
		But, yeah, you know, law enforcement and the spotters really don't get a lot of the credit they deserve.
		I mean, in any community right now, a matter of fact, as we're talking as late as it is, I'm sure somewhere in the United States right now there are storm spotters out looking at a storm, reporting it back to the Weather Service.
		storm spotters are really overlooked and we hear all this about chasing but storm spotters and the people that work at the weather service are often overlooked in all this very important very important they save a lot of lives and they unfortunately never get credit for what they do all right I'll hold it right there Warren Fadley is my guest.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He gets to take a little bit of a break right now at the top of the hour.
		We're talking about storms and we had a real whiz banger in the desert here today.
		The desert picked up and moved.
		I'm telling you, it was awesome.
		From the high desert in the middle of the night, I'm Art Bell.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning, everybody.
		My guest is Warren Fately.
		He's a Storm Chaser, one of America's actually premier Storm Chasers.
		His credits go on and on.
		He's been published.
		His pictures are just about everywhere.
		And I believe he's got a website.
		We'll catch up with all of that in a moment.
		Stay right there.
		Once again, here is Warren Fadley.
		Warren, I've got a question for you from Columbia, Tennessee.
		What is a microburst?
		You know, we know what a tornado is, sort of, I guess.
		We know what straight-line winds like the ones we had here are.
		But what is this microburst thing?
		It brings down airplanes and stuff like that.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, microburst is what we talked about earlier, about the winds falling from a thunderstorm and hitting the ground.
		Of course, if you're flying and you fly into one of these, you're going to have air which is descending and can get you in a lot of trouble.
		So that's what when people say a microburst hits, that's what they're talking about, is when the winds from a thunderstorm fall.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The downdraft, right?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Right, the downdraft and move out across the ground.
		Of course, if you're flying, that won't do you much good.
		But if you're up in the air and they'll push you down towards the ground.
		So that's why you hear that term used.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		These microbursts are visible on some types of radar?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		It depends.
		I suppose you could adjust a Doppler-type radar to pick something like that, but generally they're not.
		Now, there are special radars that are used around airport to detect these things.
		And I should note that generally when you're talking about microbursts, you're talking about a very small concentrated area, usually somewhere less than, say, three miles in area.
		So it's a very, very small area.
		And they don't last that long.
		They usually last less than five minutes.
		But again, if you're in a plane or if you're on the ground near one, they can do quite a bit of damage.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Here's Sheila in Arlington, Texas, who says, Ms. Bell, in May of 99, Oklahoma City Tornado F5, asked if he was there.
		It's the highest storm winds ever recorded.
		It felt like your insides were being sucked out.
		Your eyeballs, too.
		We went through it.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		What was the date again?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		99, Oklahoma City F5.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I wasn't on that specific tornado.
		I was on a tornado that was west of Oklahoma City.
		As a matter of fact, there were three or four intense supercell storms that went up on that day and I believe killed 30, 40 people.
		Though that was the last major fatality type outbreak we've had.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, here's a good question for you.
		If you're with Dorothy there in the farmhouse in Kansas and you look out and you go, oh my God, a tornado, what is your best bet?
		Assuming you don't have a storm cellar, do you get in your car and run?
		Is that one way to do it, a safe way?
		Or do you hunker down in the house?
		Or what's the safest bet?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, as I always tell people, the safest bet is to have planned ahead for that.
		But if you get in a situation like you just described, the best thing you could do is to find some place underground, no matter what it is.
		You're always going to be safer underground, in a basement, in a depression.
		You know, if you were an experienced storm chaser, there's a chance you could get in a car and drive away if you knew what you were doing.
		But most people, when they see a tornado coming towards them, they panic.
		I mean, they lose their mind.
		Tornadoes are really odd because they're somewhat mesmerizing.
		And even after the number I've seen, there's still something about them that I've equated to like you can get transfixed staring at a fire in a fireplace.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		There's something about them that just transfixes you for a while.
		And I'm sure there's a lot of people who have lost their lives because they've seen these things come and they freeze.
		And they're very hard to, it's very hard to judge distance and speed because it's such an odd phenomenon.
		It's just not something you see every day.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They've had tornadoes do some pretty strange things, like, for example, stay in one spot for 20 minutes and dig a hole in the ground.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't know.
		I know that tornadoes can move in very odd directions.
		The majority of tornadoes move towards the northeast or towards the east.
		But they can do odd things.
		There's tornadoes that have made complete circles.
		There's tornadoes that have stopped.
		There's tornadoes.
		As a matter of fact, a couple of years ago, there was one moving at 100 miles per hour.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I heard, Warren, that occasionally tornadoes have actually become so strong, so fast, that they've broken away from the thunderstorm that was feeding them and moved ahead of it.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		That I have never heard of.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You've never heard of that?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, of course, they don't last because they're not maintained, but they can for a time move ahead, I've heard.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, during the dissipation stage of a tornado, you can still have a very weak circulation that may not be associated with the main rotation in the storm, but that would be very short-lived and probably wouldn't do any damage.
		Now, you can have things at the leading edge.
		You can have these vortices at the leading edge of a thunderstorm known as gustnadoes, but they're not generally associated with any kind of large-scale rotation as you have with the storm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you say gustnado?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Gustnado.
		Located at the leading edge of a thunderstorm or just in front of it is that we were talking earlier, some of the winds, the microburst-type winds standing out from the storm will kick up these little, very similar to dust devils, in front of the storm, and they're often mistaken.
		I've seen them.
		And if you're, Depending on which way you're looking at the storm, and if you don't have your bearings straight, it will look like a real tornado.
		And many of the false reports you get around thunderstorms are gustnadoes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Are we perhaps overdue for a major, very deadly weather event?
		It's been so quiet, but quiet and weird.
		I mean, what did they say?
		Minnesota, 90 degrees today or something like that, Minnesota.
		That's insane.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, and we took the break there.
		I was looking at some of the forecasts for today now.
		I guess it was tomorrow, just a little bit ago, but for Tuesday.
		And, you know, there is a risk up there of severe weather.
		And you figure with these winds heading up in that direction and the dew points are a little bit higher and those higher temperatures, something's going to give.
		So if you live up in that part of the country, you might want to keep an eye on the weather tomorrow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You wouldn't likely take a trip based on what you know tonight, unless, of course, you're doing the program, so you can't do it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But I mean, seeing that, would that cause you to get on a plane and go?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		No, it would have to be something extraordinary, something that had enough positive elements and then a fewer negative elements to go.
		There are a few situations where I would actually do that.
		But you have to remember with severe weather, you can forecast a day in advance.
		You can forecast hours in advance.
		But a lot of times it comes down to, believe it or not, one or two degrees difference in the upper atmosphere, which we call capping, which holds back the development of storms.
		And sometimes that can be just a few degrees that will prevent major tornadic outbreaks.
		The people in the planes probably have no idea how many times that chasers have been sitting out there, and the atmosphere has come within just a few degrees of letting loose absolutely horrific weather.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How much does the jet stream have to do with this?
		Now, it does seem to follow that where the jet stream curves and twists directly under the jet stream, people seem to have a lot of trouble.
		Is it the jet stream driving the weather along with it, or how does that work?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		The jet stream is one of the most critical elements for the formation of a tornado.
		You need to have that upper level flow.
		You need to have bearing winds from the surface up through the atmosphere.
		Very important to get the rotation going in a storm.
		The jet stream also creates lift in the atmosphere.
		When you have any body of fast-moving currents over an air, you're going to have some upswelling, which will give you some lift.
		The jet stream also vents storms.
		Most of us see storms out here in the desert.
		They go up and they look tremendous.
		But what happens is they collapse on themselves, all that weight, and they just fall and collapse.
		Well, with the supercell storms you have out in the plains that create the majority of the large tornadoes, you do have jet stream winds, which are venting the top of those storms, allowing the updrafts to survive for longer periods.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, about how high is the jet stream?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, the jet stream generally, when you hear someone referring to the jet stream, they're talking about somewhere in the range of anywhere from probably 10,000 feet on up to 40,000, 50, 60,000 feet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, the reason I ask that is because when you start talking about the supercells you and I have been talking about, the kind that form out the panhandle and up into Oklahoma, those supercells, I believe, can get as high as 50 or 60,000 feet, can't they?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah, it's not unusual for them to be well over 50,000 feet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So that means it's going right through the jet stream.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah, absolutely.
		That helps move the storms along, and again, it creates a lot of lift and moves along.
		When you talk about the jet stream, you have to remember there are different types of jet streams.
		There's low-level jets, what we call that sometimes set up in the planes coming from the south.
		So you have jet streams up through all levels of the atmosphere.
		And of course, depending on where you are on Earth, there are different levels and different intensities.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You keep talking about the physics of all of this.
		Do we completely understand, do we really completely understand the physics of all this?
		One would almost think no, or we'd be able to have completely accurate forecasts, which we certainly do not.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, weather forecasting is kind of interesting because of all the sciences, it's probably one of the ones that has not really advanced as fast as a lot of other science.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		I think...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, why not?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		And there are, trust me, there's some people in tornado research and people, for example, out of Normandy, Oklahoma, who are brilliant.
		I've met these people.
		I've read their work.
		They're absolutely brilliant people.
		The problem is in the large scale, I don't think a lot of kids are enticed into meteorology.
		You know, people with the brilliant minds seem to go towards the money.
		They go towards, you know, engineering, law, medicine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but you're a good example of somebody who's been able to chase his dream and storms and make money at the same time.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
		But, you know, I'm not a scientist, although I do admire the science of it immensely.
		It just doesn't attract meteorology, doesn't attract, I think, the most brilliant, the large pools of brilliant people, although it certainly has a few people, many people who are gifted.
		But it doesn't attract the kind of people, I think, who are looking for money to be able to.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I just can't figure that.
		I mean, it has one of the most profound effects on our planet.
		It makes or breaks insurance companies.
		It affects the economies of entire nations and parts of the world.
		It just doesn't make sense.
		I mean, it's what's all around us.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, weather forecasting has come along very slow.
		We have things now called atmospheric profilers, which are Doppler radars that point vertically.
		So you can actually tell the wind speeds if you have the right configuration.
		You can actually tell which way the winds are blowing without setting up the standard.
		You know, everyone's probably, most people have seen the weather balloons that they release to gather data as they go up to the atmosphere.
		Well, the problem is here in the U.S., most of the time they only launch those twice a day.
		They launch them in the a.m. and they launch them in the p.m.
		So when most severe weather occurs, which is towards, you know, after mid-afternoon to early evening, they don't really know what's going on in the atmosphere as far as temperatures go.
		For example, we were talking earlier about the cap and the temperatures, how important that is for severe weather.
		Occasionally, if it looks like it's going to be a big day, they'll send up an extra balloon.
		But that's one of the weaknesses.
		Just an example of one of the weaknesses in forecasting is there's that large void of data between certain hours that prevent forecasters from making a really, really positive forecast.
		And there's other little things like that.
		So I think at some point, somebody has to be willing to put the money and the technology into it to make more accurate forecasts.
		Although, of course, nowadays, I think you can say the forecasting is a lot more accurate than it was, say, 10 or 20 years ago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm going to go to my experience here over the last, say, month.
		A lot of times they will forecast 40 mile per hour better winds, perhaps gusts to 60, and it just doesn't happen.
		And it doesn't happen four or five times.
		And then suddenly yesterday, it happened.
		It didn't just happen.
		It happened beyond their wildest expectations of the forecast.
		I mean, we had almost 100 mile-an-hour winds here, and they were talking about maybe gusts to 60.
		So they seem to miss it on one side or the other.
		And that causes people, you know, after you cry wolf about three or four times, people go, oh, yeah, right.
		You know, we're used to wind here in the desert, no big deal.
		And then you get the almost 100 mile-an-hour winds that destroy things.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's still very difficult to forecast.
		And it's not because of negligence with the tools that the forecasters have.
		And I think the technology, they do the best they can with what they have.
		But, you know, weather is sickle.
		It's really bizarre.
		You just never know from one day to the next what's going to happen.
		And you do the best you can, but there's no foolproof method yet.
		Within really a few hours to forecast, of course, with Doppler radar, which is one of the greatest, in my opinion, tools that the Weather Service has nowadays, you can dissect a storm and tell if it has tornadic potential sometimes an hour in advance when the storm first.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, listen, I don't want to crash your site, but I'm on your site right now, StormChaser.com.
		We've got a link up under your name on my website right now, artbell.com, if people want to follow it.
		Stormchaser.com is the website.
		And I'm looking at a photograph, this month's amazing storm-chasing weather picture.
		Courtesy of Storm Chaser Picture, the month homepage.
		Okay, well, here's this tornado.
		My God, it looks like, it actually looks like, I'm curious, are you looking at the photograph?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		I think I remember which one it is, even though it's this way.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It almost looks like there's three other tornadoes visible, or three other little arms that could be tornadoes or part of the...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's very interesting.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Okay, yeah, this is someone earlier had emailed you about the 1999 outbreak in Oklahoma.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		This is one of the tornadoes from that day of a western storm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Holy smokes.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		West of Oklahoma City.
		And that just missed.
		You can see a little house down there.
		Of course, people listening can't see it.
		But the tornado's passing right next to a farmhouse and probably missed it.
		It looks like probably about a quarter of a mile from nailing that.
		As a matter of fact, when I was sitting there videotaping that, there was a group of people, local people there, talking about the people that lived there.
		They actually knew the family.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let me ask again about the apparent additional tornadoes or additional rotational things that are sticking down, not all the way to the ground.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What have we got there?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, you have to remember that the majority of tornadoes are made up of individual vortices within that circulation.
		So when you see on television a tornado, it's not just usually one large circulation.
		It's a series of sub-vortices within that circulation, which if you think of it, the damage that does, instead of having one area of circulation, you may have numerous areas near spinning, you know, 200 or 300 miles per hour.
		You can imagine the efficiency of damage and also why you have sometimes unusual damage.
		You know, one building will be destroyed and the one next to it is not because of the way the physics of the structure of that vortice.
		This one, you can see there's the main one on the ground and that circulation around that area is actually some of the other vortices that are spinning off of it.
		And sometimes you'll see them they'll come out horizontally.
		There was a matter of fact from that same day in Oklahoma City, there's a classic shot of a large tornado on the ground with a horizontal tube coming out the side of it, a smaller one.
		Again, you know, the physics are just amazing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do we really understand completely, do you believe, the physics involved?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		You know, there's some researchers in Oklahoma that are doing that right now.
		A couple years ago, they had Operation Vortex, which went out a massive research project.
		They were using planes and research vehicles.
		And the data from that is just fantastic to read because they've learned so much now, especially with the portable Dopplers, which they're taking out into the field, able to dissect storms up close and personal, to get all kinds of different readings at different levels to see why these things form, why they dissipate, why sometimes the perfect storm does not create a tornado, which can be just as important as the ones that do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's an interesting term.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So they're learning.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		I mean, for example, they found out that a lot of the tornadoes are the result of boundaries left over from other storms.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Matter of fact, if I remember right on this day, I believe there were some existing, on the Oklahoma Day in 1999, there were some boundaries from previous precipitation earlier in the day.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Just as a matter of interest, since you do this as A full-time profession.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When things are totally calm and it's a beautiful day and the birds are singing and there's no bad weather anywhere, do you sit around and pout or what?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		No, you know, I enjoy that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you really enjoy a nice day?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		I really do.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		You know, I don't enjoy the death and destruction.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hold on.
		We're off the bottom of the hour.
		I was just wondering, what does a full-time photojournalist do on a really nice day?
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		Warren Fadley, who's one of our nation's premier storm chasers, something a lot of people would consider to be an insane career path to follow, is with us this night, this morning actually.
		And I'm getting ready to ask him some pretty wild questions, so I hope he's ready.
		If you are, it's coming up.
		Now this should be getting to get very interesting.
		Warren, you mentioned a phrase a little while ago that keyed memory for me, Perfect Storm.
		Of course, it was a movie called The Perfect Storm.
		And occasionally, storms can sort of come together, can't they?
		It doesn't happen all that frequently, but large storms can come together and become one.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		You know, the elements that help create the large storm systems, like the perfect storm, for example, it's really a timing of elements coming together at the right time.
		Whether you're talking about the wind you had today or the perfect storm, you know, it's like a machine.
		Everything has to work at the right time and come together at the right place to create.
		The wrong way, correct.
		And as a matter of fact, I just noticed here, this is kind of interesting.
		They just issued a high risk for tomorrow, or actually it would be today, it would be Tuesday for portions of across Minnesota, western Wisconsin, northwestern Iowa.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So all that heat is about to explode.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Your winds are going up there.
		As a matter of fact, a lot of people probably don't know what high risk means, but I'll tell you that that's a very, very rare rating that the Storm Prediction Center gives.
		You see only a handful of these, maybe one or two a year issue.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, really?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Very, very rare.
		As a matter of fact, I was just looking at the statement here.
		It says parameters appear to be coming together for a significant, severe wind event across portions of the upper Mississippi Valley.
		Oh, my God.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, we heard the 90s in Minnesota.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So in other words, all of that heat is about to meet up with something.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		The moisture up there and the heat, and those of the winds are going to come together tomorrow.
		And if you live up in that portion of the country, you'll want to really watch the weather tomorrow, the forecasting.
		Again, that's very rare they issue these.
		And I saw the red come up on the screen.
		Matter of fact, if you go to my, we were talking about the stormchaser.com on the left-hand side, there's actually a little graphic there from the SPC, and you can click on there, and it'll give you all the data.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where is it?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		I'm on your page.
		If you look on the right-hand, or actually, excuse me, the left-hand side, you come down there about halfway, it says today severe weather outlook from the SPC, and I put that there so people can go there.
		But when we were talking at the break, I looked on there and saw that red, and I'm like, oh, boy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I want to see it myself, and everybody else is going to be rushing there.
		Now, let's see.
		I'm on main menu, media center, stock images and footage, Warren Cyclone Cowboy homepage.
		Oh, that should be interesting.
		Storm Chaser Print Gallery, Chase Products, Speaking Engagements, Sponsor of Chaser, Chase Frequently Asked Questions, Chase Links.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		We're getting there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		KidStorm page.
		KidStorm page.
		Absolutely.
		And then I've got contact data.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		And the next thing should be the severe weather outlook.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let's see.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		There you go.
		There it is.
		You can see they got to get it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That red area.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Very, very, very significant event could occur tomorrow.
		And as a matter of fact, they've even discussed issuing a public information statement.
		And that's another rarity when they actually issue that kind of a statement.
		Now, I want to point out this could change.
		This is preliminary.
		This is early.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, what does this likely mean, though?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, are they looking at the possibility of tornadoes there, severe thunderstorms, or is this just going to be like what happened to us today?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, no, it's going to actually be more storms.
		I think the upper atmosphere, I looked over this real quick.
		I didn't have time to go over the whole statement, but I think the winds, as we were talking earlier about the jet stream, and this all ties together, the winds are unidirectional.
		They're coming from one direction.
		Instead of having that turning in the atmosphere, which will create more rotation in the storm, I think they're looking here at more of a straight-line damaging wind event and maybe large hell.
		Now, that could change.
		Again, this is preliminary.
		And in the morning, I'll tell you, I don't know how many times I've woke up and looked at one of these at night and got all excited when I'm out chasing.
		And it's taken down to a slight risk, which is one of the lowest ratings.
		So, you know, severe weather like this changes hourly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I see it says parameters.
		A lot of it seems awfully technical here for people like yourself, but it says parameters appear to be coming together for a significant severe wind event across portions of the upper Mississippi Valley on Tuesday.
		Oh, wow.
		So all of that energy is about to be converted.
		Does that mean that it's going to suddenly, after all this happens, get cool?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		I don't remember there being a real strong cold front associated as you normally have this time of year with this system.
		This is more of a dynamic system as opposed to, say, what you associate with a cold front coming down and sweeping across the country.
		This is a very intense low-pressure system.
		The one you had, again, is working its way up there, and when it hits that moisture...
		It's heading their way.
		The strong winds, when you mix that with, you know, when you mix any kind of a strong wind with surface heating dew points, you're looking for trouble.
		And that's obviously what they're seeing here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		By the way, folks, if you click on that little map, it gives you a big map, and then it gives you all the explanation.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's really a cool link.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they do a great job, the SPC.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you can't give enough credit for putting this out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In fact, I'm bookmarking that as we speak.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Pilots, public look at these now, weather people.
		It's great information.
		As a matter of fact, it breaks it down here into tornado probability, damaging wind, and large hell probabilities, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, here's a question that everybody asks, and I've had people call me up and say, you know, there's got to be a way to stop a tornado.
		People have envisioned blowing, literally blowing them up, putting some sort of very high explosive or maybe fuel air explosive or, you know, something or another in a forming tornado that would cause it to disperse instead of to continue to form.
		In your opinion, is there any possibility that could work?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I think someday, you know, you could have lasers or some type of energy that could be put into a storm.
		I mean, they've tried dropping chemicals into storms to try to change.
		As a matter of fact, I think they tried it a couple years ago on a hurricane to try to cool it.
		Once you cool a thunderstorm, the heat has a tendency to diminish.
		Absolutely.
		But the problem with that is any time you monkey with something like a thunderstorm, there is the other danger of unleashing even a greater potential.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Making it worse.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Making it worse.
		And there was a few years ago, there was a situation where a company did some cloud seeding, and the storm went on to produce severe weather.
		I don't remember the specifics, but there were people at the time blaming the people who cloud seeded, saying, well, cloud seeding produces more rain.
		If you're not familiar with it, that's what they do.
		But the storm went on to become more severe.
		Now, it may have been more severe even without the cloud seeding, but you have to be very careful because once you start...
		Absolutely, because people are going to be suspect anytime you try to change a storm.
		But you have to remember, storms, it's a very large-scale system.
		It's very difficult.
		I mean, how are you going to pick which storm?
		It's not uncommon on the big severe weather days to have lines of storms or squall lines that can stretch almost across the whole country.
		So I think at this point it would be very difficult.
		But someday, who knows?
		And of course, that'll put me out of business, but that'll be I'll go retire.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Warren, that leads us into even a touchier couple of areas here.
		One is there are a lot of people who believe that there are ongoing attempts at weather control, that our government would not talk to us about it for the very reasons that you just spoke about, that they'd probably get blame, but that they are secretly experimenting with modifying our weather.
		I'm sure you've dealt with the question.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Oh, absolutely.
		And I'm sure I've heard rumors, I've talked to old-timers who have told me back even in World War II, there were secret projects to try to create cloud cover, for example, or to create fog or to modify the weather.
		I believe both here, or I should say the United States, Europe, the Allies, and also in Germany at the time, I believe there were attempts to modify the weather.
		But again, the amount of energy it would take, I think, to change any kind of weather system is not available now.
		There's just nothing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, I'll tell you about an interesting story that you may or may not be aware of.
		But when there were tragic, terrible fires going on in Southeast Asia, Russia offered to produce a cyclone.
		They said that they had satellite technology in place, satellites in place, that could produce a cyclone, and they actually offered to do it for free.
		I believe it was for Malaysia, if I'm remembering correctly.
		They offered to do it for free once, but would charge for it afterwards.
		Pretty wild story.
		That was in the mainstream press.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Again, the amount of energy that you would have to expend to create a storm would be fantastic.
		I mean, to modify it, I think, is possible, but to create it...
		You know, there may be some method someday.
		Who knows?
		It may be one of those situations where you can start something very small and it can grow in intensity.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, like tickling An elephant or something.
		There you go.
		I don't know.
		And then, even more controversial, I've got to at least run this by you.
		There are, I warrant, thousands of people across the country right now that believe they are seeing something they have not seen before.
		Now, we all know what contrails are.
		You know, they're condensation, little wispy condensation things that appear behind airplanes, sometimes linger for a little while, but most times just sort of fade away.
		In recent years, on my program and many others, people have begun to talk of what they are calling chemtrails.
		And they believe that something is, I guess that means that you're not too familiar with this or it's just too controversial.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		No, I've heard of the donut-shaped contrails, which some people theorize are pulse-type experimental aircraft engines.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		No, these are, and I've seen them myself, so I can describe it to you.
		On an otherwise not cloudy day, you will see many jets laying out patterns, frequently an X-type pattern.
		And instead of the normal dispersal of the contrails that you would see, just a slow wisping away, these grow sort of a dirtier color, they expand, and they actually become kind of a dirty, cloudy day.
		And there are many people who believe that there are ongoing experiments, for what reason we're not sure, weather modification or something else, that's being performed by some jet aircraft.
		Pretty wild stuff, I know, but believe me, many people have seen and believe this to be true.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's even been theory that the jet contrails actually change the weather.
		When you have enough of them, you can actually change the weather with that.
		So, you know, who knows?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Any possibility there could be something to that?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, I personally haven't heard that, and I personally haven't seen anything.
		Now, I've seen contrails that will fan out, depending on what the atmosphere is doing.
		Sometimes they'll dissipate rather quickly, and sometimes they will fan out and look more like cirrus.
		Sometimes you'll have a system moving in ahead of that, and the cirrus will blend in with the contrails.
		You can have, in some cases, it's kind of rare, but you can have contrail shadows where the sun actually hits the contrail and hits a cloud below, say a cirrus cloud, and you actually see a gray shadow below it.
		But I've never heard a theory of anything like that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're liable to hear it in the next hour.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So then, is it fair to say, do you think that if attempts at weather modification are going on either in the private sector or in the government sector, they probably wouldn't do a lot of talking about it?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Oh, absolutely not.
		I mean, it's the same stuff going on up there in your neck of the woods.
		I don't think the government would certainly want to be talking about it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		As a matter of fact, the wind here was so bad, they closed the Mercury test site just near us, you know, the atomic test site?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Closed.
		They closed it today, and they just never do that.
		So that's how it was here.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, the wind's probably picked up any of the leftover nuclear stuff and probably blew it all up to where the storms are going to be tomorrow.
		So maybe that will create a new theory.
		Who knows?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What are good things for people to remember, typical safety tips as severe weather season approaches, which it is rapidly doing now?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, the best thing is to stay informed by a weather radio.
		That's, to me, is the most important thing you can do, is to stay informed.
		Boy, do I agree with that?
		And another thing is if you're new to an area, if you're new to an area, if you've moved from, say, Las Vegas to Amarillo, Texas, I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing, you might want to start learning about severe weather.
		You know, don't just take it for granted someone's going to warn you.
		There was a tornado warning three or four nights ago in Amarillo, I believe, at 2 or 3 in the morning.
		So never take anything for granted.
		Learn about severe weather.
		And most importantly, have a plan if severe weather strikes.
		If you live in hurricane-prone areas, you want to have specific safety measures for hurricanes.
		If you live in Tornado Alley, you want to have knowledge of what to do, where to go.
		That's always a big question.
		I know you brought that up earlier when you asked what should you do if you were in the farmhouse.
		It shouldn't get to the point where you don't know what to do.
		You should always have a plan.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But it will for many people.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Yes, and one of the saddest things I've seen as a journalist, and it always breaks my heart to this day, it still does, is when you see children killed when a tornado strikes.
		There's absolutely no excuse for that.
		Children have a whole different way of looking at things, at storms and things.
		They expect adults to take them to safety if there's a storm.
		They rely on it.
		So it's always important to have a plan.
		If the kids are at home alone, make sure they have a plan.
		Make sure they know where to go.
		Make sure they know where the shelters are.
		That's the best advice is just stay informed and have a plan.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're going to do a lot of traveling this year?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		last off here in about a week or maybe a little over a week.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		And it's nonstop until...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Just stay at the road?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		On the road, do you sleep in the vehicle that you go in or do you stay at hotels?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, I used to take into vehicles, but fortunately, I don't do that anymore.
		I need a good night's rest nowadays.
		But it used to be in the old days I used to give up lodging and sometimes food to be able to afford gas and film.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you have a crew that goes with you?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		I have a volunteer chase crew.
		As a matter of fact, a lot of them live right there in Las Vegas.
		One of them lives up in my lead partner in chasing lives up.
		Him and his wife live up in Ely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You've got a wonderful URL.
		I mean, it's a wonderful URL.
		And I understand somebody tried to hijack this from you recently.
		Stormchaser.com.
		That's a hot URL.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, they didn't try to hijack that.
		There was a gentleman that was a fan.
		I have a service mark on Stormchaser, which only applies to the service.
		It's not a trademark, not a copyright.
		It doesn't affect the average person using the term, unless for a very specific business, which 99% of the people.
		Well, some guy got the idea he would trademark my name.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Trademark your name.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		WarrenFadeley.com, which, of course, you can't do under intellectual property law.
		Right, right.
		I guess the point here is that, you know, even with storm chasing, with the little fame I get, there's always going to be these bizarre, really kind of odd things that happen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But that's right.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		A little bit of attention.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So I take it you were able to straighten that out.
		I know there are laws that don't really allow that kind of thing.
		You've got to chase it down.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		It was a real pain to have to do it.
		And I can tell anyone listening out there, if you haven't registered your own name, go out and do it.
		It's a lot easier and saves the frustration of having to deal with attorneys and their related expenses.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, when you're in the field, do you have internet capability of one sort or another?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Oh, absolutely.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		You know, a laptop computer is really modern.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How do you do it, though?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, there's not all that much reliable out there.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, believe it or not, with a laptop and a really good cell phone company that has a nationwide type plant you can use in any location, I can get data.
		Last year, for example, there were only one or two times, and we're talking about Chase Area covers, the Chaseville area of Toyota Valley covers like 250,000, 100,000 miles of area.
		There were only one or two times when I was in the absolute middle of nowhere where I couldn't acquire data.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you get data rates that are useful?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
		Yeah.
		I mean, I'm able to download now full-color radar.
		I'm not going to be able to, I'd have to sit there and wait quite a while or the connection may not be stable enough.
		But generally what I'm looking for, or what any chaser is looking for when they're out there, are surface data and the outlook, like we just discussed here for tomorrow.
		That kind of written text data is generally what you're looking for.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So the people in Minnesota, as a general precaution, with this sort of thing, should be battening down the hatches, huh?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		I would definitely say you bring in the lounge chairs and anything loose out there that might fly around tomorrow.
		And again, it could change.
		I've seen many days like this when you think, oh, heck's going to break loose.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And it doesn't.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		You know, if one element fails to arrive at the right time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		See, that's the danger of what happened to us.
		They give us these big wind forecasts a lot, and it never happens.
		And people get complacent.
		They think, oh, yeah, right.
		And then all of a sudden, it exceeds the forecast, and nobody was ready.
		There was some of that that went on in our area today.
		Warren, hold on.
		We'll go to the phones when we get back.
		How about that?
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Done deal.
		We will be right back.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning, Across Everywhere.
		My guest is Warren Fadley.
		He's a storm chaser, which to many people seems like an insane profession.
		But it's actually fun.
		My full experience with it is it's scary, but it's fun.
		And it's almost like ghosts, in a way.
		Weather is scary stuff, but in a weird way, it's fun.
		We didn't have a lot of fun today, though, now that I think about it.
		Not much fun at all.
		At any rate, we're going to open the line.
		So if you have any questions for Warren across the spectrum, it's time to get to your telephone.
		Okay, once again, Warren Fadley is here.
		Warren, just before we go to the phones, take me through step by step in some detail.
		Take me through one of your scariest experiences.
		I mean, what you did, how you did it, where you went, the whole thing.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, the first thing that comes to mind is the hell.
		A lot of people think, well, it was, you know, probably an experience with a tornado.
		I mean, even Hurricane Andrew was scary at times.
		But when I think of sheer terror, when I think of actually really, really, really being afraid, it would have to be a hell storm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yoshi.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		And, you know, you're talking about a softball-size hellstone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you say softball-size?
		Softball-size hell.
		You know, I've wondered about that for a long time.
		If you have something the size of a softball that is solid ice and it's falling at terminal velocity, what, about 100 miles an hour?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but a softball fall is about 100 miles per hour.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		100 miles an hour.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That would, well, of course, if it hit you in the head, it would kill you.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
		And there was someone recently killed.
		I believe it was Dallas, Texas, if I remember right, but I was hit in the head by a hailstone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you got into a hailstorm?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		We were driving in southwest Kansas back, I believe it was June of 1993.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		And just made a mistake, tried to cut in front of a storm and then get to the back side of it.
		And first it was rain, but you could see that ugly green, kind of sick green color off to the right of us.
		And we knew we were in big trouble.
		And of course, being out there in the middle of Kansas, in the middle of the field with no shelter, we had no choice but to drive through it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So it's kind of green, you say?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		It's kind of an eerie greenish color.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		A lot of people see that before a storm, and there's a number of theories we could get into as to why.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'd like to.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're telling me that that produced softball size?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		They weren't softballs in that particular storm.
		They were just under baseball size.
		And, you know, it started out with rain, and this was all captured on videotape.
		It started out as rain, and it kind of went to small peace size hell.
		And you can hear me speaking on the microphone as the tape's rolling.
		And hell just rapidly went from peace size up to marble.
		You could see it in the road.
		And then it was golf ball.
		Very, very hard hell.
		Sometimes hell's soft, but you could see this hitting the road, and it was pretty much staying intact, so you knew you were in trouble.
		And then tangerine size, and then boom, it was hitting the top.
		Very, very deafening sounds.
		Matter of fact, some chasers even carry, I know one guy, Namarillo, that carries a pair of headphones to block out the sound.
		It's so deafening loud.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, isn't it destroying your vehicle at that point?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		It's hitting the vehicle.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		And, you know, considering our speed trying to get out of it in the speed of the hell, it was doing a lot of damage.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you were trying to drive out of it?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		We were trying to drive out of it.
		And it was hitting the roof, denting the roof, denting the hood.
		And one hit the windshield and it cracked.
		And almost the same second, a very large one caved right into the middle, right in front of it.
		The video cameras pointed.
		It hit right there square with a deafening sound.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You've got this all on video.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		All on video.
		It's been shown on a number of television shows.
		And I looked over at my Chase partner and I said, you know, can you see?
		Because there was glass flying in the car.
		The windshield was shattered.
		It was just kind of going in and out from the wind, pulsing.
		It took another hit, and I figured it was going to cave in.
		So at that point, I had a large map up against my chest, thinking, well, you know, the next one's going to come all the way through because there's really nothing holding that windshield together.
		And about that time, we got through it.
		And I'll tell you what, it was nerve-wracking to say the least.
		But most chasers will tell you that getting into big hell is very scary.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Can I ask you a question?
		You've obviously got a very expensive vehicle which you have a name for, right?
		Your Archangel?
		Right.
		Your Archangel must be a very expensive vehicle.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		True.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So when you go to your insurance company and you go to get insurance and you tell them, I mean, usually they ask what you do for a living, right?
		Well, absolutely.
		How wild are they about giving you insurance?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, I actually have commercial insurance, which covers normal driving.
		I pay the extra and go the full commercial route for the vehicle.
		As far as that kind of damage goes, I self-insure myself.
		As much as people might not like insurance companies, I would not take the advantage of that of going out through my own decision and damage something.
		And just like that storm, I think it ended up doing $700 or $800 damage just to the windows, a couple windows it took out.
		But that's all self-insured.
		I pay for that.
		I don't claim that because that is part of, in my opinion, part of business operations.
		And now, of course, if someone slams into the back of me when I'm driving home from chasing, that's a whole different issue or something that's in the normal course of business.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, here's another big question we had today.
		Then I'm going to get to callers.
		I'm sorry, callers.
		We'll be right with you.
		With the tremendous wind we had here today, there was an argument that went on about whether you're better off having a window cracked open to in some way equalize the pressure when you're having like 100 mile-an-hour winds or near 100 mile-an-hour winds, or you're better off having everything sealed up.
		A lot of people say, well, you leave something open, you give the wind an avenue to get in.
		That would certainly be true in a bigger, you know, if there was a bigger opening, but I just don't know.
		What's the answer, or is there one?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		That's an old wise tell.
		Years ago, they used to say if there was a tornado or a hurricane, you should crack the windows and let the pressure equalize.
		The pressure is not intense enough in those storms to disintegrate and float a building from the pressure.
		And you've got to look at it this way.
		If the wind gets so intense that you're going to have that kind of damage, the windows are going to break out and take care of it themselves.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, as a matter of fact, here in town, there are many, many, many windows that imploded.
		They just flat and floated.
		That tells you the kind of wind we had.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you don't want to, and the other thing is you run the risk of being in front of that window trying to open it when the glass shatters and being injured.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a good point.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So in other words, it's generally an old wives' tale, and you might as well keep everything closed.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		You're much safer doing that.
		You're much safer to be seeking shelter and thinking about yourself rather than worrying about that.
		Like I say, debris flying through the air is going to take out those windows, you know, no matter what you do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		I appreciate that information.
		I'll remember it, too.
		First time caller line, you're on the air with Warren Fadley.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good evening, sir.
unidentified		Good morning, actually.
		It'd be now here in Iowa.
		Warren, I've got a personal experience and a question for you.
		It was an evening many years back driving from the Colorado River, from Lake Cavasu City down to Parker.
		And my dad and I decided to do a little storm chasing of our own.
		And we were driving through a monsoon storm that had been building up all day long and was dissipating pretty good.
		And we started following it, and it was heading along the river.
		And as we were going through it, my dad decided, you know, we better remove the coax off our two-meter antenna, our radio off the pickup truck we were driving there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a ham antenna, folks.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah, ham radio antenna, two meters.
		So we undid the coax off the radio and laid it on the floor.
		Well, we didn't realize the coax is very close to the seat post where it bolts into the floor.
		And we were driving to this storm, there was a weird ticking noise inside the vehicle.
		We couldn't figure out what was coming from.
		I happened to look down by my foot and see this blue arc that if anybody knows what a blue arc spark from a spark plug to something grounding looks like, that's the way it looked.
		It'd start out really slow.
		Within just a couple seconds, it'd start arcing very rapidly.
		Oh, that's really.
		It would completely stop, then the lightning would go off.
		And then it would be like this for a couple, three, four seconds.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sir, you were in an extremely dangerous situation.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A two-meter antenna, Warren, is a short antenna.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Maybe 19 inches or maybe double that, but no bigger.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so for that to be picking up, that means that he was in the immediate electrical field, immediately under electrical field of a storm, yes?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Oh, absolutely.
		Matter of fact, our chase vehicles, we probably have four or five antennas on there for CDs and scanners and cell phones and all kinds.
		And also two-meter 440 rigs we carry to communicate.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're a ham.
unidentified		Oh, absolutely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no kidding.
		Absolutely.
		I'm W6OBB.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		KB7TVO.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Glad to meet you.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		There we go.
		But, yeah, when the antennas, you know, a lot of times, believe it or not, I've been there storms and the antennas will actually sizzle and pop.
		And that is the energy building up.
		Now, that doesn't necessarily say there's going to be that connection made between the ground, the cloud, the cloud, and the ground, whichever way it is.
		That doesn't mean that.
		And I have to tell you this story.
		This is really quick, but it's awfully funny.
		I was on top of a mountain here in Arizona shooting lightning a couple years ago.
		And there were a number of other photographers there watching what I was doing.
		And I heard the antennas and saw them starting to pop and sizzle.
		Well, I thought, I'm about to stay in here.
		So I jumped in the truck immediately, packed everything up, and these guys are all just laughing.
		There's Warren, the Storm Chaser, jumping in his truck when there's a little bit of lightning.
		About five seconds later, a lightning bolt hit must have been maybe a quarter mile away.
		And these guys jumped about two feet off the ground.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
		So when something, normally I've got like a 100-foot tower here at the house, and I've got 175 feet on each side of the tower coming off 100 feet for low-band work.
		And of course, if you don't have that insulated, when there's a lot of wind, you get incredible voltages.
		But, or in a thunderstorm, it gets really mean.
		I mean, you get big arcs that appear in the antenna tuner to ground.
		But gee, Liz, for a two-meter antenna to be taking a charge like that, you're in a very dangerous area.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
		You know, and I don't know what the wisdom would be of unplugging it.
		He may have saved his radio, but, you know, who knows?
		Who knows if you're safer leaving it connected or not?
		That's probably pretty hard to say.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He said that it was jumping to the seat belt bolt, and that would be the vehicle ground.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think they were very lucky because the charge would have come in there.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		They could have been injured.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my.
		All right.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air with Warren Fadley.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Yes, this is Dr. Bishop here at Stratcom in Omaha, Nebraska.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Yes, I don't know if you're aware.
		I had a comment and then a question.
		First of all, that you were asking about the predictability of weather, that the actual theory of chaos actually came out of weather prediction by Dr. Lorenzo.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That sounds correct, yes.
unidentified		Okay.
		And my question was concerning tornadoes.
		We had a paper that came around everybody read, and I think they sent it originally to NASA that were telling everybody that it was written by an aeronautical engineer, and he was postulating that a tornado was actually where it gets its power is where it intersects the Earth's magnetic field and actually turns itself into an electric motor.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Have you heard that before?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't think I have, but it's interesting.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Warren?
		Never heard that before, and I don't know if there's any scientific fact to it.
		Personally, from what I know and what I've seen, I would doubt that would have any effect on it because the scientists have nailed down probably better than 50, maybe 60% of what's happening.
		But again, who knows?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You say they've nailed down 50 or 60 percent?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		I would say so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So that means there's 40 or 50 percent they don't understand.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely, because there's still a lot of tornadoes that are produced in storms that you wouldn't think so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, there could be some physics that are at work that they don't yet know about, right?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		I don't know so much of physics involved as some of the mechanisms which may actually lead to the formation of a tornado.
		I think they're very close to unlocking it.
		A couple of researchers in Norman, Oklahoma, I think are very close to figuring out.
		But one of the problems is why doesn't the perfect storm produce a tornado?
		And they've done that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That is a very good question.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Why not?
		You can have, and that's one of the big mysteries.
		You can have a storm.
		I was on one last year that if you looked at a radar loop, it was the best storm in the panhandle.
		There was tornado warnings.
		I mean, the thing was perfect, but it would not produce one brief tornado.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You've got to understand, folks, translate when he says best, it means worst.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		And I don't mean to play that with any kind of disrespect.
		That's just the terminology.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I understand.
		It's just that a lot of people don't.
		They just don't look at the storms the same way a chaser does at all.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		That's probably true.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		But that is one of the mysteries, is why, when you have that storm that looks perfect on radar, why wouldn't it produce a tornado?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And yet storms that don't look at all perfect and sometimes surprise the forecasters totally do produce tornadoes.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		And there's different mechanisms.
		Some storms produce tornadoes in conditions that you would never expect.
		So it's fascinating, but I think they're pretty close to figuring out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There was a shot CNN Got some video footage that a pilot took that I saw recently of a tornado in the air, like two or three tornadoes, right out this guy's window.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I wonder if you happened to see that.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Not the recent.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		I'm familiar with the helicopter footage.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I believe it was.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Minneapolis.
unidentified		That's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Amazing amount of work considering the danger he was in sometimes, as close as he was to that vortex.
		There could have easily been another vortex formed near him.
		So he was very, very lucky.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Those are some of the most amazing pictures, video footage I've ever seen.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Amazing when you see an entire pine tree flying through the air.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, indeed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Warren Fadley.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		How you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, sir.
unidentified		Okay, I'm a storm chaser, too, but I restrict myself mostly to hurricanes.
unidentified		I'm not an expert on hurricanes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		I'm in New Orleans, Louisiana.
		Ah.
		But I grew up on the East Coast, New Jersey.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		And went through some storms.
unidentified		My first one, I was six years old, and I loved every minute of it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you've got to understand, people don't get this.
		They don't understand.
		A lot of them don't.
		And you can't blame them.
		To them, it's just terrifying stuff.
		It's not fun.
unidentified		I understand.
		But I have a couple of questions.
		One is I have a very frustrating situation that you don't have when you chase tornadoes.
		And that is when I want to go to where I think a hurricane is going to make a landfall, I'm not going to be able to get there because they're going to be evacuating.
		I'm not going to be able to get through.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		How do you get through?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How would you get through?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		That's a really good question.
		And I'll tell you something.
		When I covered Hurricane Andrew, I believe it was 1992.
unidentified		Well, I went to Lafayette for that one.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		You know, that was, in my opinion, the last great uncovered hurricane by the media.
		Up to that point, the media, you know, as Art pointed out earlier, would send out one guy to stand there in the rain.
		But with all the new cable stations since then, and a lot of them have come on air since then, when there's any kind of a hurricane threat now, I can guarantee you you're going to see massive coverage.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but he wants to know how to get through.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		And the problem with that now is that because of that coverage, what they're doing now is they are the evacuations and the areas they're closing off are happening a lot further in advance.
		With Hurricane Andrew, they didn't really get crazy there until a day or two before.
		I mean, this has been going on.
		They knew it was coming.
		But nowadays, they close up everything real, real, real soon.
		So you have to get there days and days in advance to get access.
		But you really can't.
		You know, that's the problem.
unidentified		You can't do that because it'll change course on you for sure.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		And even as a journalist with all the credentials I have, and if I'm doing consulting work for MSNBC or somebody.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There are times they won't let you through.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		They won't let you through.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Now, of course, I spent many years as a journalist before I was a Storm Chaser, so I know some of the ways that it works.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, listen, both of you hold on.
		I'm going to hold you over, Caller, and just stand by.
		I'll bring you back with Warren.
		And we are going to continue to take calls for Warren Fagley.
		Fascinating topic.
		The weather always is.
		Boy, it was wild here today.
		From the high desert, I'm Art Bell.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, I can tell you this.
		Sitting in a building under a 195-foot tower in near 100-mile-per-hour winds makes for a really, really, really interesting day.
		That's the kind of day Ramona and I had today, and a very tragic day for an awful lot of people here in the Prump Valley, where we had nearly 100 mile per hour straight line winds for three straight hours.
		It was absolutely terrifying.
		Warren Fabley is my guest, and that's exactly what we're talking about.
		The weather.
		It's getting pretty wild out there, folks.
		We'll continue in just a moment.
		If you have a question and you have a telephone, you're in.
		Stay right where you are.
		All right, back to Warren Paley.
		Warren, the caller's still on the line.
		I thought that was such a good question.
		You obviously have little tricks you can use to get in.
		You want to spill any of them?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's not so much tricks.
		I mean, at the same time, you have to understand that law enforcement has a job to do, and they're concerned about public safety.
		They don't always have time to sit there and distinguish between who's pressed and who's not.
		But usually with the credentials I have, I've rarely ever had a problem.
		And usually, in retrospect, when the authorities tell you that you shouldn't be there, there's probably a pretty good reason.
		But what I would tell the callers, probably, if you're heck-bent on doing it, is to go there early enough and find a position that's safe.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but his point was it inevitably changes course.
		So when you want to get into the area that's really barred, you're saying most times with credentials, they'll let you in.
		And probably say you're on your own, bud.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Right.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Sometimes they'll ask for the next akin to kind of stir your emotions and make you think about it, which they've done to me on several occasions.
unidentified		But maybe we can go together.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		There we go.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Live broadcast from the eye of the hurricane.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, you do take volunteers in occasionally.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		We work with volunteers, the same people I've worked with for years.
		I'm kind of against getting too many people in a group because it gets a little bit more difficult to keep track of everyone and be safe.
		But it's just one of those things where I'd rather chase with people that have some experience.
		Now, occasionally I do offer opportunities for people to chase, but of course there is a fee for that, and that's just the way it goes.
		You have to support chasing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Lynn in Iowa asks, have you ever seen and or photographed any ball lightning?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		No, and I'd love to see ball lightning.
		I have no doubt that it exists.
		I've talked to people who had no previous knowledge of ball lightning.
		And when I told them what I did, they started telling me these stories.
		And I go, hey, you know, you saw ball lightning.
		I have no doubt it exists.
		I think it's an interesting phenomenon.
		I'd love to figure out, you know, how to get a photo of it, but, you know, I have seen it.
		I mean, I haven't seen it, but I've seen things in storms after lightning strikes that I thought was ball lightning.
		And I certainly would love to see it.
		I'd love to photograph it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
		Hello.
		Oh, I didn't press button now.
		Hi, you're on the air now with Warren.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		My name is Jim.
unidentified		I'm calling from Sandy, Oregon, and I'm listening to you on KEX 190.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		I have a question for your guest.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Fire away.
unidentified		Has anybody ever seen the inside of a tornado?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, actually, that's a good, it's a pretty good.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		There have been a couple eyewitness reports about looking up into a tornado, but I'll tell you the problem with that, and that is I myself and a lot of other chasers will tell you, when those clouds are very turbulent, you can look up and there's all kinds of circulation.
		It's not uncommon to look up and see swirls going right above you that are not necessarily tornadic swirls.
		They may just be the agitation in the clouds of some low-level shear going on.
		There is one account, I can't remember the specifics, but there was one account where there was actually a tornado with damage that moved over a location, and the gentleman there described in the story how he looked up into the tornado.
		So that, you know, it's possible, but then again, there's a lot of things that can fool you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Would you, if you had the opportunity, would you get in a ditch and let one pass over?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		If I knew I could do it safely, I'd do it tomorrow.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		If there was a way to do it, I suppose if you had a ditch and you could crawl into it and let it go over you, that almost happened a couple times by accident.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Last year in Childress, Texas, I waited too long in one location and decided not to move, and I had the actual, what we call the mesocyclone go right above me.
		I mean, you could actually see the rotation, like I was saying before, rapidly rotating right above me.
		And of course, afterwards, I really was upset with myself for doing something so stupid.
		A tornado could have came down any second, but that's part of chasing.
		One thing I do want to point out, Art is, you know, we've talked a lot about chasing and how exciting and fun and things like that.
		But I also want to point out, because I did have someone email me at the break here and ask me about this, it's not always fun in games.
		It's a lot of tragic, you know, there's a lot of tragedy associated with it.
		And as a journalist, I've seen it.
		My very first storm chase in 1987, ironically, the very first day I ever went storm chasing in the planes, I ended up in Saragosa, Texas, which had been hit by a violent tornado and killed, I think, 29 or 30 people.
		And at that point as a journalist, I made it very clear to myself that my work from that moment on would involve safety and education.
		And a lot of the work I do does go to the Red Cross and the Weather Service.
		So I want everyone listening to know that it is chasing can be exciting like any other job, but there is a serious side of it.
		And I do take that very seriously.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, when you take somebody with you for a fee, whatever, do you make them sign releases, that sort of thing?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I haven't done that yet.
		I actually put up an ad on eBay to do that to try to raise some funds.
		But yeah, of course, yeah, there would have to be all kinds of waivers, releases, and things like that signed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, people should know that with an experienced storm chaser, for the most part, you're really much safer than you would be if you might be in the path of the storm otherwise because the storm chaser knows which way it's moving, which way to go.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		I think so.
		It depends on who you chase with.
		You know, most of the veteran chasers, guys and a few, there's actually a few gals that do it too, they know what they're doing.
		They're not going to get in trouble.
		Now, I'm probably a little more conservative than most chasers.
		I mean, chasers sometimes will joke that they've seen me heading away from a storm.
		As a photographer, I have to have certain elements of light, like contrast, the more isolated storms.
		So I'm a little bit, I tend to chase away from some of the big, giant.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, once you're in the downpour or the hailstorm, it's too late.
		There's no photography to be done.
		You've got to have some distance, right?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		I mean, unless you want to photograph the hell, but there are people who are driving what we call the core of the storm, the very dangerous part where you have the hill and you may have a tornado embedded in there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, they're nuts.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		There are people that will do that, and sometimes you can't help it.
		Sometimes the number of storms will go up and you can't avoid it.
		But I purposely don't do that.
		I have a very different, distinct methodology of chasing.
		I like to stay wet.
		I like to stay in the clear air.
		I like to take the one in a million chance on the absolute perfect storm for me.
		And I do.
		I miss a lot of storms because I chase that way.
		But as you saw on my website, when you get a photo out there in that clear air, it pays off.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it sure does in more ways than one, I'm sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		First time caller line, you're on the air with Warren Fadley.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Hello?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello there.
		Hi.
		Hi, you're on the air, sir.
unidentified		Go ahead.
		Hi.
		Warren.
		I'm one of those people that enjoys and also respects weather.
		There was one thing I wanted to mention was that we were sailing up at anchor during a very deep depression up in the North Channel of Georgian Bay when the worst storm I've ever seen in my entire life came at us with three levels of clouds and lateral lightning.
		And my nephew was playing the end by the doors.
		And I thought, if it was the end, it really, truly was the most frightening thing I've ever seen in my life.
		A lot of wind.
		But then it just went away.
		It just rose up and went over us.
		But what I was calling about was straight-line winds here in Detroit.
		Detroit does not get a lot of severe weather.
		We get typical summer storms and that sort of thing since I've been here my entire life and live very close to Lake St. Clair.
		About 1996, we had our first, I believe it was the first time, experienced a straight-line wind and it tore up trees like I've never seen in my life, like a tornado would.
		But only in a specific, like maybe the width of a half a mile, maybe three quarters of a mile, and that was it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a really good question.
unidentified		West to east, directly west to east.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
		A wonderful question.
		It's occurred also in Colorado where it has taken trees right down to the ground.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		These weird corridors of wind.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What are those, Warren?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, it depends.
		You know, it depends on what kind of winds you're talking about.
		This winds from like you had today, which aren't necessarily associated with a convective type storm system, that are more associated with a low-pressure system, are winds that are associated with a storm.
		You know, there's all kinds of complexities involved.
		And again, we were talking earlier about the microbursts being very narrow, you know, maybe less than three miles in width.
		It just depends on the type of storm or what's generating those winds.
		And I don't know specifically what he was referring to.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I've seen meteorologists say the jet stream touched down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That has been happening, hasn't it?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't think technically that would be the correct way to phrase it because, you know, the jet stream is a term, again, used for those winds generally around, you know, 30,000 feet, although there's different levels.
		But when you have winds at the surface that strong, you could say, you know, maybe a better terminology would be jet stream type winds or something.
		But it's not as though the atmosphere has suddenly, you know, something's changed where the jet stream is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It has actually come down to the ground.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Correct, right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Wildcard line, you're on there with Warren Fatale.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hey, how are you this evening?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, a little wind blown, otherwise all right.
unidentified		I think I may be one of those people when I was born here must have been a magnetic field.
unidentified		I was raised at White Sands.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Uh-oh.
unidentified		So I know what you mean about those desert storms.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There you are.
unidentified		And I've also am a survivor of the Xenia tornado.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Which tornado?
unidentified		Zenya, Ohio.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that tornado.
unidentified		I just happened to move up there from Dayton.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Then we moved to Louisville.
		And then that was that Easter Sunday where those tornadoes came into Louisville?
		That's right.
		We sit out in our backyard, brand new house, and we watched four tornadoes just bounce all over the town.
		That was an unusual sight.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It was.
		I was in Louisville just at about that time.
		It was incredible.
		Absolutely incredible.
		Warren, are tornadoes showing up in places where they traditionally have not been so much?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		You know, I wouldn't say that.
		I don't think there's any evidence of that.
		You know, of course, the United States leads the number of tornadoes.
		I believe, if my knowledge serves me right, I believe Canada's second and maybe Russia's third.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why would that be?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why would we be such a popular tornado place?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		You know, we just have the absolute perfect setup with the Gulf of Mexico bringing the moisture into the central plains, you know, with the systems moving across the country from the west to the east.
		It's just the perfect setup of cold air meeting warm air, warm, humid air.
		You really, you know, couldn't have a better setup to create tornadoes.
		Very unique in all the world.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Warren Hagley.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi there.
unidentified		This is Doug in Indianapolis.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Doug.
unidentified		Yeah, what I was wondering about was I've always heard that tornadoes had winds that were going up in the center.
unidentified		Is that right?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Hmm.
		You know, they're actually doing some research on that because of some of the recent footage that's been taken because when you see the damage, the damage actually, cars, for example, are actually lifted upwards.
		Now, I don't believe there's actually what people think of a suction going on where the old theory of it going over a lake and sucking all the water out of it.
		I don't think that occurs.
		But the motion in the tornado, those vortices, there is some lift involved in that.
		And you would have to really get with the scientists to find out the specific physics involved in there.
		But I have seen debris lifted.
		As a matter of fact, there was research done a few years ago where they went through damage, where tornadoes had struck areas and did surveys of where the debris ended up for checks, for example, which actually have a location and a name on them.
		And these things were transported for hundreds and hundreds of miles across the country.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, really?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Once they got caught up into the circulation of the jet stream.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		So in that...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so usually when they pay me, they put my paycheck under a rock on the driveway.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, needless to say, there was no paycheck there today.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'll look for it when I'm out in Texas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It could be in Arizona by now.
		It could be down in northern Mexico.
		Who knows?
		But it's not here, that's for sure.
		All right, West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Warren Fadley.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hi, Mr. Bell.
		This is Kevin from Chingman, Arizona.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Quick experience, and on top of that, I got a question for him.
unidentified		I don't know if you remember that one hurricane that came up the Gulf of Mexico like four or five years ago and the eye of it passed over Yuma, Arizona?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I do remember that, yes.
unidentified		Okay, I was on the road of 93 up near Nothing, Arizona, and that eye passed right over me when I was driving on it.
		I tell you what, that was some type of experience there.
		But my question is that I've noticed within the past five or six years that the western part of Phoenix has begun hit with a lot more tornadoes.
		Why is that?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		There's actually a good reason for that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, what is it?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Is it or not?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		And the reason is there's more people seeing them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, so there's not really more tornadoes, more people to see them.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		No, usually that country has about between 1,000, 1,200.
		Of course, this year, you know, we're down, which is good news.
		And the fatalities are down, which is absolutely wonderful news.
		But you have people moving into these regions where before 100 years ago, no one would have noticed the tornado.
		Now you have more and more construction going on in these areas.
		So more people are reporting them, and, of course, more tornadoes are actually striking some type of activity.
		Absolutely.
		The target's getting bigger.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		First time caller line, not a lot of time.
		You're on the air with Warren Fabley.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hi, this is Dane from southern Indiana.
		Yes, sir.
		In a very strong tornado, how can a perfectly structured house on one side of the street be blown into Kinland and just a shack right on the other side of the street be blown over?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the classic question.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And of course, that is exactly what tornadoes do.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, again, the reason is you have to remember tornadoes made up of generally individual vortices within that circulation.
		And you have to remember when those, you may have one that may be, you know, 100 feet away that's going 200 miles per hour.
		You may have one, you know, 300 feet away that's only going 50 miles per hour, may do light damage.
		So you have to kind of think of it that it's hit and miss.
		I mean, you may have incredible winds within one small area and then just a few hundred yards away or less.
		If it's a large 200, the winds may be relatively light and not do any damage.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What would be the lowest speed of a tornado?
		We've frequently talked about the highest speed.
		What would the lowest speed be?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Well, technically, when you talk about an F-Zero, it's basically, I guess you would really say it was zero or one mile per hour.
		And I do want to point out that it's not actually a tornado until there is some type of circulation on the ground, whether it's seen or not seen, whether it's just debris lifting up or you see the contact actually on the ground.
		Which a lot of people don't know.
		They'll see a funnel up in the air and they'll say, oh, it's a tornado, but it doesn't actually become a tornado until it actually makes ground.
		With your earth or water or whatever it's touched up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, we might have time for one quick one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wildcard line, you're on the air with Warren Fatale.
unidentified		High.
unidentified		Hello, how are you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, sir.
unidentified		That's the first time I've listened to your show.
		Anyway, I live in East Texas and I have a question.
		I had a tornado that came over my house.
		I know it was a tornado, but the weatherman said it wasn't a tornado.
		But anyway, the thing was, is I believe it jumped over my house.
		Is that possible?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
		You know, I've seen tornadoes come down and they'll form and just dissipate instantly and reform.
		It's quite possible.
		I've seen them skip over.
		You'll see damage paths.
		If you look in photographs or diagrams of damaged paths, that's not unusual.
		They'll form and dissipate and reform.
		It's quite common.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And most of the density or the darkness in a tornado is from what it picks up, dirt and such, isn't it?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		No, actually, that's just the condensation, what we refer to as a condensation funnel.
		Of course, once it touches down, it may ingest some of that dirt.
		And I've seen them, you know, matter of fact, it was a tornado a few years ago that went through, I believe it was Wichita, Kansas, that went through a guess where they have some kind of a garden.
		And apparently the tornado turned pink momentarily, some of the witnesses said when it went through the flowers.
		So a lot of it happened with the terrain and what it's hitting.
		I've seen them go over red clay of Texas, and the base will be kind of a reddish color.
		The sun may be shining on them a certain way, and they may take on kind of a...
		Well, yeah, water spouts, I've got pictures here of them over water, and they are actually kind of blue, but that may just be that it's a background of the contracts that makes them look that way.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It could be.
		Listen, what a pleasure it has been to have you on the program.
		Everybody should go visit your website.
		Tell them what it is.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		www.stormchaser.com.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		It's real easy to remember.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It sure is, and it's a wonderful website to explore, and you're going to end up bookmarking part of it.
		Warren, thank you for being here.
		Good luck.
		And listen, listen, since you've got a cell phone, one of these nights when you're out there and you're really into something hot, let's arrange a way for you to get through to me.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		I'll be happy to do a live broadcast from out there in the old time.
		You just let me know and we'll absolutely wild.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know my producer's number, right?
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		I'll give them a call and we'll set it up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Done deal.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		And I hope everybody got something out of it.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		And I say everybody to be safe this year and, you know, keep advised and know what to do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, Warren, and good night.
warren faidley ▲ ● ▼		Thanks, Ledark.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, that's it for tonight from the windblown high desert, everybody.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I really mean windblown.

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