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April 12, 2002 - Art Bell

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unidentified		From the high desert and the great American South.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I vid you all.
unidentified		Good evening, good morning, good afternoon from the beautiful little town of Rump, Nevada to the world.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This is close to close a.m.
		Friday night, Saturday morning style.
		And yes, it's going to be open lines tonight.
		And before we get to the really scary news, you know, the world news, I thought I would roll over with you a few of the suggestions that I've received, just a little handful here, since last night.
		And actually what I think I will do is open all of my lines to any of the following.
		I used to try to restrict one line, you know, but I found out that doesn't work.
		If something takes off and people want to call them out, if they're going to do it on any line at all, and I can't stop that.
		Nothing I can do about it.
unidentified		So.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All lines.
		So here's what I get.
		I asked.
		Ramona, earlier today my wife came to me and said, here's a good one.
		Somebody's suggesting the all-dead line.
		Those who are dead and well intend to stay that way.
		So I guess we could have an all-dead line.
		But, you know, thinking it really through, why, if they're really dead and intend to stay that way, then they're probably not going to reach out for me to try to let us all know that they're dead and happy about it and want to stay there.
		Nevertheless, there are any.
		Let's see.
		Hello, Art.
		I was thinking of that elevator to space story that you talked about the other night.
		Actually, it's on the website.
		You imagine that, an elevator to space?
		Anyway, he goes on, maybe some of your audience have crazy inventions of their own they want to share with the rest of the world.
		I can nearly already hear you saying on the invention line, you're on the air.
		So anybody with an invention tonight, an inventor's line, that's a good idea.
		And then here's one saying, people who have microchips behind their ear.
		I found mine last night.
		It's a wireless singular wireless customer who sent that.
		Unnamed otherwise.
		And then, of course, this would go along with it.
		Art, how about an alien implant victim hotline?
		So, sure.
		Oh, I will absolutely talk to anybody out there who has an alien implant or any other implant.
		By the way, the doctor I did two interviews with in Great Britain is now in Arizona.
		I understand.
		Or from Jim in St. Louis, Art.
		I think we ought to do the Area 51 line for Friday's program.
		You know, it's been way too long since we heard from the non-existent base just over the hill from you.
		Oh, Area 51 callers are always welcome, of course.
		Many of them live right here in my little town.
		But I think the winner, from my point of view, and I could be wrong about this, but I think the winner is sort of a combination of the next two from Jace.
		Hi, Art.
		Given the recent and sudden increase in people having dreams slash feelings about some undefined major impending event, I think it might be rather interesting to dedicate a line tonight to people visiting from the future.
		Perhaps they can tell us what's coming.
		I was thinking of suggesting a line dedicated to shadow people, but I understand the shadow phone company provides really a shoddy service.
		Looking forward to open lines, Jesse.
		Or this, which kind of goes along with it, right?
		Art, with everything seemingly going to hell in a handbasket in the world right now.
		How about opening up a line to the following categories?
		A, any time travelers who have information about the outcome of the world based on current events, you know, the Middle East, Afghanistan, and so forth, weather changes, earthquakes, melting, ice caps, and what have you.
		Any extraterrestrials who are here for the purpose of aiding and assisting during this time of change on Earth?
		What can they tell us about the present course we're on and the outcome?
		Thought these two things would be very appropriate and timely.
		That's Carol in Mesa, Arizona, listening to KFYI.
		So, here, let me put these back together.
		Anybody with information for me in any of those categories is going to be welcome to call tonight on any line, any line which you can make it through on.
		Now, the really scary news.
		I said I thought it was a poor idea for Secretary Powell to go to the Middle East right now.
		And this day's events would seem to verify that.
		He's already called off his Saturday meeting with Arafat after yet another suicide bomber.
		Literally right before his eyes, the meeting they say might be rescheduled for Sunday.
		Powell expects a clear denunciation of terrorism and of the new bombing.
		Meanwhile, Powell failed to persuade Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon to provide a timetable for withdrawing Israeli troops from Palestine cities and towns.
		Well, huh, what a surprise, huh?
		You almost have to wait until the fighting ceases or the parties cease the fight before you go.
		I suppose Powell is to be commended for trying, but it was doomed to failure.
		And sometimes something doomed to failure is better not, or is better put off until it's a brighter day, you know, for whatever they're going to try.
		In Venezuela, during the program last night, the government was overthrown.
		That was some breaking news we had, along with yet another big earthquake, 588-5658 In Kabul, near Kabul, Afghanistan.
		Indeed, the Venezuelan government has been changed overnight.
		Venezuelan business person Pedro Carmona was sworn in Friday to replace former leftist president Hugo Chavez, whose combative rule was ended by army commanders after a rather bloody repression of a huge street protest.
		But Carmona's appointment was immediately challenged by Venezuela's attorney general as unconstitutional.
	In fact, several other Latin American nations, including Argentina, Paraguay, condemned Chavez's ouster.
	Carmona said that he would hold legislative and presidential elections within a year.
	That's what they always promise when they get in.
	You know, when the military guys take over and you get your new whoever it's going to be, presumably the military having a big part in the decision of who it's going to be, and they always say, well, we'll have elections within a year.
	Usually they don't.
	Military courts now could sentence some criminals to life in prison without parole and, in fact, forbid witnesses from talking to reporters under changes to the manual for courts martial issued by the White House on Friday.
	Wow.
	The changes also spell out, for the first time, rules for prosecuting military members for adultery.
unidentified		Hmm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So they're downgrading it in a way.
		The rules say the adultery must either damage military order and discipline or hurt the military's reputation.
		Well, hmm.
		Damage their reputation.
		So in other words, like if it gets into the papers, you're screwed, right?
		That's what it sounds like.
		If you're fooling around, it doesn't get out, or we keep it in-house as it were.
		Maybe there won't be a lot, but if it gets into the papers and it's a big deal, then you're, you know, you're out of here.
		I got a very, very interesting email from a young gal named Lisa, and I won't give her last name because I want to pursue her getting her on the air.
		She's been making inquiries into chemtrails, and she says, yesterday I received a phone call from an FAA representative concerning a previous inquiry made by me regarding the incessant flyovers of jets above my home spraying chemicals in the skies in my city every day.
		This female representative was very rude and hostile to me and basically snarled in response to my questions.
		I was calling to express my concern about the chemtrail activity, which, by the way, has been spoken about by air traffic controllers at major airports all across the U.S. And this FAA representative told me, in capitals, told me this.
		She said, quote, chemtrails are a military operation.
		Ask the military about that, end quote.
		I tried to get her to address my concerns regarding the weird flight patterns that I'm seeing and photographing above my home, but she was increasingly rude and unpleasant, so I asked for her name or her supervisor's name and contact info.
		She promptly hung up on me.
		So that's Lisa in State College, Pennsylvania.
		Lisa, if you want to get hold of me with your phone number, I'd kind of like to get that on record by getting it on the air, and you can tell us the rest.
		Well, guess what, folks?
		We've got a brand new underwater city.
		Yet another underwater city.
		Any ideas where this is off the coast of India?
		How about that?
		Divers at the site could only explore part of the site of an ancient underwater city that's been discovered off the coast of southeastern India.
		Divers from India and England made the discovery based on the statements of local fishermen and the old Indian legend of the seven pagodas.
		The ruins, which are off the coast of a town I can't pronounce, M-A-H-A-B-A-L-I-P-U-R-A-M, cover many square miles and they seem to prove that a major city once stood there.
		A further expedition to the region is now being arranged, which will take place at the beginning of 2003.
		Discovery made on April 1st by a joint team of divers from the Indian National Institute of Oceanography and the scientific exploration based in Dorset.
		Expedition leader said our divers were presented with a series of structures that clearly showed man-made attributes.
		bear in mind the date of discovery of this we've had Stay right where you are.
unidentified		Stay right where you are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, onward.
		We were talking about the seasons.
		You know, the weather changed last night, and this is typical of what I've been getting.
		Hey, Art, first time emailing you, and I thought I'd tell you about the climate in Minnesota here.
		If there was one thing that I would believe about last night's show, it's a shortening of fall and spring.
		We started off the year with next to no snow, which is in itself amazing for Minnesota.
		We usually have had blizzards by October.
		It wasn't fall at all either.
		Temperatures were very high.
		Fall just didn't happen.
		Snowed a couple days before Christmas, and winter happened as usual.
		It looked like winter had ended at a normal time until it snowed nine inches in 24 hours at the beginning of April.
		The truly amazing thing about this, though, was that, for example, today, I couldn't even wear a coat.
		I was getting that kind of heat buildup in my car, kind I usually only have in the summer here.
		In fact, I drove All the way home with my window down.
		So, a lot of people are saying that.
		And then I've got this complaint from a gas station attendant.
		Ha ha ha.
		You're going to like this.
		Aren't I work at an interstate exit gas station with high prices?
unidentified		Yeah, he's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, those ones that are right at the very, you know, the very first one you can hit when you're coming off an interstate.
		You know, they always know, hey, we're first, and they're going to grab us.
		The price bedeviled, right?
		Anyway, let me start again.
		I work at an interstate gas station with high prices.
		Every so often, a customer will get real angry and threaten to call the gasoline police.
		Are these people bleeding through from a parallel universe, Art?
		They really believe that the government controls the oil companies?
		When I tell them the oil companies control the government, they get really angry.
		These people are Americans.
		They also get angry if I laugh at them or question their sanity and or their emotional stability.
		In fact, they seem to be normal, angry Americans, except for their belief in the gasoline police.
unidentified		The gasoline police.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I have word that according to one of my emailers who saw Ripley's, believe it or not, there are now, I'm told, two men who apparently took off in lawn chairs, perhaps inspired by what they heard on this show, who knows, in balloons and set a new record in lawn chairs of 18,000 feet.
		They landed safely.
		So I don't know anything about this other than this report, two more men in lawn chair with lawn chair rides.
unidentified		Hmm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Interesting.
		A French court convicted a mother of two premeditated armed violence after she tried out her new tear gas canister on an innocent shopper just to see if it worked, said police on Friday.
		Disguised in dark glasses and a hat, the unnamed 35-year-old sprayed a woman shopper who'd just returned to her car in a supermarket, a car parking lot.
		Unimpressed by the defendant's plea that she'd merely wanted to try out the device, the court in the northeast town of Saverne gave her a four-month suspended sentence.
		Police said that during questioning, the woman said she was disappointed with her purchase because the person she had sprayed had been able to thrash about and scare her by shouting at her.
		She wanted this person disabled entirely, and by the way, under the category of disabled entirely.
		This story, I am going to have to follow up by getting the man on the air.
		I would like to talk to this man.
		The headline is, man shoots off brain tumor.
		The subheadline is, amazingly, the act to end one's life ultimately saved it.
		Do not try this at home, folks.
		Steve Huey, who was suffering from an inoperable and fatal brain tumor.
		Doctors had given him only two months to live, so Huey decided to end it all rather than face the pain.
		He wrote a suicide note, placed the gun to his head, and shot.
		Later, friends found him on the floor in a pool of blood.
		They called the ambulance, and within hours, Huey was up and walking around.
		His sense of humor was amazing, but even more amazing, his luck, said the doctor.
		The chances of him shooting out his brain tumor are 254 million to one.
		The bullet missed all of the vital parts of the brain and only shot out the tumor.
		And they're serious about shooting it out.
unidentified		They've got it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Friends of the family have urged Huey to put his luck to good use and buy lots of lottery tickets.
		A close friend said, quote, I tell him every day, go buy a lottery ticket and go bet on a horse, but he just won't do it.
		Sometimes he can be so stubborn.
		Doctors are cautioning other terminal patients, do not try what Huey did.
		They said there is no way that they can help themselves.
		They will harm themselves severely.
		Huey is currently writing a book and planning a national book signing tour.
		Also in the works, a movie and sitcom based on the story.
		Quote, I'm a very lucky guy, and I plan to turn this miracle into some serious cash, said Huey in an exclusive interview.
		An auction is also in the works that will sell the gun, the hospital bill, and in fact the tumor itself.
		Any collector would look to own his own tumor and should be willing to spend lots of money for it, added Huey.
		Well, you know, I don't know if I believe this or not.
		This supposedly came from one of his friends.
		And what we're going to do is we're going to follow up on this story just to see if it could possibly, possibly be true.
		I mean, imagine this.
		You've got a brain tumor, you get the bad news, two months, bud, you're out of here.
		You're depressed, you go home, you put a gun to your head, and you don't touch a single pink part of the brain.
		You simply dead on, aim, and it goes right through and blows the tumor right out of your head.
		You have incredibly, in a situation which would have been inoperable any other way, cured your tumor.
		That's the kind of guy I've just got to get on the air.
		So anyway, at the beginning, I'll touch on the gasoline, please.
		I'll touch on all of these again, but any of those subjects I think are going to be fair game throughout the night.
		It's one night that's just for the two of us, huh?
		So if any of those things get your brain cooking, begin your heart sizzling, and your mouth wanting to move, you know my numbers.
		And If you don't, they'll be recited for you coming up very shortly.
		Open lines all night long.
unidentified		this is coast to coast a m Once upon a time, once when you were nine.
		I remember times, time see what's become of
		Time, time, time to see what's become of me While I looked around for my possibilities I was so hard to please The ground, the ground, the young sky Is a hazy shade of winter To recharge Bell in the Kingdom of Nine, from west of the Rockies, dial 1-800-618-8255.
		East of the Rockies, 1-800-8255033.
		First-time callers may recharge at 1-775-727-1222.
		Or use the wildcard line at 1-775-727-1295.
		To rechart on the toll-free international line, call your AT ⁇ T operator and have them dial 800-893-0903.
		This is Coast to Coast AM with our bell on the Premier Radio Network.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hey, guess what, folks?
		I heard from Richard C. Hoagland earlier today.
		We have new photographs of the Sidonia region of Mars.
		That's right.
		New photographs of the face in the surrounding area on Mars from NASA.
		And so, yes, Richard C. Hoagland, along with a lot of other things, will be giving us his evaluation of the new photos and what they mean.
		That's coming up Tuesday.
		You're not going to want to miss it.
		Now, we've got a lot of special lines going on tonight.
		We'll sort of go over them one more time.
		But really, it's open live, so anything you want to talk about all night long is absolutely fair game.
unidentified		He's our friend.
		There's a patch of snow on the ground.
		Look around.
		He's our friend.
		There's a patch of snow on the ground.
		Look around.
		He's our friend.
		There's a patch of snow on the ground.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's Tom Bodead.
		I'm thinking of interviewing Tom Bodead.
		Maybe a short interview.
		I'd be fun talking to him, I think.
		I don't know why.
		Anyway, it has been suggested that we have the all-dead line.
		Those who are dead and intend to stay that way.
		I don't think they would call, though.
		You know, if they're going to intend to stay that way, then they're probably not.
		But you must admit, it would be interesting getting a call from the other side.
		I mean, it is well said that spirits on the other side can use things like the internet, telephones, electronic devices, particularly those subject to electromagnetic activity.
		So, you know, that would be really interesting to get calls from the other side.
		Then other suggestions were inventors, anybody who's got a microchip implanted in their ear or their brain.
		I'll take either one.
		Then I think the winner here is this category with everything seemingly going to hell in a handbasket in the world right now.
		How about opening up blinds to two of the following categories?
		Any time travelers.
		Any time travelers who have information about the outcome of the world based on current events, the Middle East, Afghanistan, the whole world, weather changes, earthquakes, melting ice caps.
		Good idea.
		Any time travelers out there who can tell us where all of this is headed, welcome.
		Any ETs who are out there for the purpose of aiding and assisting during this time of change on Earth, what can they tell us about the present course we're on and the outcome?
		So anybody in any of those categories is welcome to call on any line.
		Any of the numbers we just gave out.
		With that in mind, we plunge.
		Wildcard line, you are on the air.
		Good evening.
unidentified		Hello, Lord.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, sir.
unidentified		This is Ricardo from San Francisco.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And I want to wish you a well-earned two days or three days off, you did, and I hope your back is feeling better.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it was two, and it's much better.
		It was a real shock arena.
		Anyway, sir, what's up?
unidentified		Okay, well, I wanted to speak about something that you had a caller a couple of days ago or yesterday that had to do with ETs.
		And Heather had brought this up.
		This is her name from San Francisco.
		Yes.
		And there's an underlying subculture here, earthly speaking, that is of non-earthly origins.
		And they do carry a soul, but it's not original.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wait, wait, wait.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're saying that in San Francisco there is a subculture of beings who are not of earthly origin?
unidentified		Well, worldwide.
		At this point, the veil is being lifted.
		And I think Sean should bring that up to you one day, Sean David Morton, that things that I did not hear him bring up about the Pope and the Comet and so forth, I've been dreaming these things.
		And for years, I've been playing things on radio on my own radio show in San Francisco for the last three years until I got a back injury and neck injury also, which I talked to you about in 1999.
		Certain things during that time period have brought me up to decide to just start revolving around this arena and letting it out that there is a very metaphysical plane that is of spiritual beings.
		And they work on, in essence, getting information through the dream state, through outside interference from magnetic fields, through dimensional fields, and through assistance from what most people think to be angelic forms.
		Those are the people who have.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How about drugs?
unidentified		Drugs?
		That is not an involvement that's necessary to achieve this type of state.
		But the cosmic unity is all that's involved here is to university.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You better remember San Francisco, you know, in the 60s and well, even today, actually.
unidentified		I understand.
		In my case, I'm not drug-oriented.
		I don't drink alcohol.
		I follow a path that is...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you...
unidentified		I don't claim anything other than the fact that my existence here, I started when I was 12 years old with a book which is something up there by Dale White from 1968.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Roughly.
		I'll ask you straight out.
		Are you one of these beings?
unidentified		I can't imagine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Straight answer, sir.
unidentified		Straight answer.
unidentified		I would say that I'm involved in this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You make a great witness in front of a Senate subcommittee, you know.
unidentified		This is a witness.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you are telling me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's yes, right?
unidentified		In the affirmative, I would tell you that I've been working for unity of this nuclear madness that we're revolving around, and it's time that people who wear the veil start coming out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And that's what you're doing?
unidentified		The E. T.s in America.
		You're being E.T. worldwide.
		You are important.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You are one of these beings.
unidentified		I'm bringing it up to you in that format.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, all right.
		Well, all right.
		That's as far as I'm going to get with him, I guess.
		But I think that was a yes.
		Either that or he's working for them.
		I wonder if that would be for or against us.
		I mean, how do we know what they want with our planet after all?
		Oh, sure.
		They say things about enlightenment and listening to what the ETs are channeling through somebody or another and all the rest of it, but maybe they want our real estate.
		East of the Rockies or on the air?
		Hello?
unidentified		Hi, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		How are you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm Spiffy.
unidentified		I was wanting to talk about the Atlantis.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean the one that they suspect may be off Cuba?
unidentified		Yes.
		Yes.
		I have had kind of a little theory.
		I've been looking into it.
		And what if these were aliens that had came down before us, unidentified people, and had started a whole planet after the Ice Age or something?
		They're not really sure when the time period was.
		And they made the civilization and now they're coming back to check on us.
		I mean, has anyone ever looked in the back that could see what that was underneath there?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, they're getting there as soon as they can.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, they're dropping cameras and doing research and trying to figure out what it is they've got down there, and we should all know soon.
unidentified		Now, what is the new one?
unidentified		What was the name of it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So something off the coast of India.
		I mean, they're finding lost cities, sunken cities that go back to the Ice Age and beyond, all over the place.
		All of a sudden, and it's like fishermen and others have known about these things for a long time.
		It's just that somehow archaeologists are just now getting around to actually investigating them.
		Isn't it weird?
unidentified		Yeah, that is real weird.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So we may not be the first.
		You know, there may have been others that came before us now, whether they were of this planet, created on this planet, or came from elsewhere.
		Who knows?
		Maybe we'll know when we get there.
		Wester of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		How are you doing there, Art?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm doing.
unidentified		Oh, man, I can totally sympathize with you and you're back.
		I've had the same problem for so many years, and it's just, oh, it drives me crazy.
		I had some I wanted to run by you, and that is with the upcoming clone that's already in the womb, right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The claimed eight-week pregnancy in the United Arab Emirates, actually.
unidentified		It's to an Arab, you said?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is going to be the clone of a very rich Arab, according to the Italian doctor, who has claimed to have done this in the Emirates.
unidentified		Yes.
		Yeah, I was wondering what I just wanted to get your opinion on this.
		I was thinking, because of the time of the chip being implanted and all that stuff, if that could possibly be the Antichrist, possibly, because I always thought maybe why would God curse someone with actually being the parents of the Antichrist, you know?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What if it's a clone of Osama?
unidentified		You never know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There's been a lot to think about here, actually.
unidentified		Yeah, exactly.
		And the one way I figured to find out, because of with Sean's prediction the other night, or with that guy that came through from the 2094, he said the name was Jamal, and that was their Antichrist figure.
		So if they name it Jamal, we'll find out.
		You know, that'll be the Antichrist.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, well, we shall see.
		Wouldn't it be, what would the right word be?
		I guess it would be kind of karmic if the Antichrist were the first clone.
		In other words, he appears not from God's hand or from science's hand, but from our hand collectively.
unidentified		Exactly.
		And that's like, yeah, that's the only way I think it would come about.
		It's from man and science anyway.
		And I don't know.
		We'll see what happens.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We sure will.
		Thank you very much.
		That's interesting.
		That the first clone could be the Antichrist, and he would have come collectively from our hands for cloning.
		And the president has made several recent statements really down on cloning.
		We definitely should not be cloning in this country, says our president.
		And I might tend to agree with that.
		I don't think cloning is a good idea, not right now, not at all.
		They're going to make monsters is what's going to happen.
		Now, I don't know if this story in the Emirates is real or not.
		Certainly, the Italian doctor is very well known and respected, I think, worldwide in this area.
		So one would tend to think the story has some validity.
		Yeah, wouldn't that be a trick on the world, huh?
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		This is Desiree.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Desiree.
unidentified		And I was wondering if you could help me with something.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That remains to be seen.
unidentified		My husband Was plowing a field in McFarland, and he came across these three unusual-looking rocks.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He was plowing a field in McFarland, what?
		Excuse me?
		Where is McFarland?
unidentified		In Bakersfield, California, outside of Bakersfield.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
		All right.
		Thank you.
unidentified		And these rocks punctured the tire.
		And he got them and he brought them home, and they resemble lava, but they're like metallic, and they're very, very heavy.
		So I thought maybe a meteor.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
unidentified		And I'm thinking, well, who can I contact?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Who do you call, huh?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Boy, that's a good question.
unidentified		i thought you'd be the perfect person to know well i i'm on Let's see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How big are the rocks?
unidentified		One of them's two pounds, one's 11 pounds, and one is 12 pounds.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Pretty good-sized rocks.
unidentified		Yeah, they're very unusual.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let me think.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why don't you begin by taking a photograph of them and sending that photograph to me so I can put it on the website?
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And that's the best thing I can think of offhand.
unidentified		Okay, and where would I send that to you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Artbell at mindspring.com.
unidentified		Mindspring.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Or artbell at AOL.com, doesn't matter.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But try MindSpring first.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		My mailbox is bigger there.
unidentified		Okay?
		All right.
		Thank you very much.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, thank you.
		And we'll proceed from there.
		Somebody will look at these whatever they are, and they'll be able to tell us, I'm sure, what they are.
		So you'll have to get a pretty good close-up of them, I suppose.
		Get a close-up of one, and then get all of them in the photo if you can.
		Wildcard.
		There we go.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, turn your radio off, please.
unidentified		Got it.
unidentified		I'm 62 years old.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Congratulations.
unidentified		Thank you.
		When I was a young teenager, I read a book that had a scene in it that I'd like to tell you about.
		It made a big impression on me.
		Sure.
		This was written by, I believe that the name of the book may have had something like White Hunter in the title.
		He was a guy who led safaris in Africa.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		And he claimed that he was, you know, ecology conscious for that time and everything.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
unidentified		But one time he claimed that during his career, he had spent some time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		i think it only a hundred with a camera no he led people on safaris but he uh...
unidentified		Yeah, he shot animals.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, big ecologists.
unidentified		But he, well, he claimed that he did at least observe the laws and tried to discourage poaching and all that kind of thing.
unidentified		Anyway.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, I think shooting animals for sport is really stupid.
unidentified		Well, that was sometimes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, go ahead, sir.
unidentified		Okay, he claims that one time during his career, he got interested in observing baboons or not shooting them, but just observing them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good.
unidentified		And he claimed that at one point he saw something that made a big impression on him.
		I've never forgotten it myself.
		It made a big impression on me.
		What?
		He claims that he saw male baboons sitting together in a group as the sun was going down one day.
		The sun was hanging in the sky, you know, a red disk.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And they were looking, they were gazing, all of them, at the sun.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And then after a while, they turned their gaze as a group to the females in the group.
		And a little while later, they switched their gaze to the babies playing at their feet.
		And then back to the sun.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Back to the females.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Back to the baby.
unidentified		Back to the babies.
unidentified		And I guess that went on until the sun went down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So it was a ritual?
unidentified		It sounds like it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It sure does sound like a ritual, doesn't it?
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Wow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, wow.
		That is pretty interesting, sir.
		You're right.
unidentified		Yeah, you know, the only thing I would say is I'd wonder if anybody else has ever observed that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, all right.
		Well, believe me, you're just saying that.
		We'll bring it on.
		Oh, that's really interesting.
		That would be a ritual, wouldn't it?
		Wouldn't that imply all kinds of things about the intellectual level of these animals?
		To look at the sun and then the females and then the children and to repeatedly do that as a group over and over again would appear ritualistic without question.
		And when you consider the implications of what that means in terms of what they realize about themselves and are thinking about, hmm.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Let me get my radio.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, by all means.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Always get the radio first.
unidentified		Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Been trying to get a hold of you for the last couple weeks.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now you have won the lottery.
unidentified		Yeah.
		Hey, I got a couple things.
		One, who is the doctor that has removed alien implants?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Dr. Roger Lear.
unidentified		Lear.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Dr. Lear has removed implants.
		Do you have a website?
		In fact, the coolest story of all was when he went after Whitley Streeber's implant in his ear.
		I had the doctor on the air here, sir, and he said when he touched that implant with a scalpel, you know, when he got in there, the implant moved away from the scalpel.
		Yeah, I think it was.
		Yeah, moved on into his ear where it would have been dangerous to continue.
		Oh, it was an incredible story.
unidentified		Yeah, because I've had kind of an anomalous infection.
		It started...
		Well, it started in my ear, okay?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		As an infection in my ear.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Then it settled down into my sinuses for a number of years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Years.
unidentified		Into my sinuses?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you go to a doctor?
unidentified		I've gone a number of times, and they just kind of like want to treat the infection.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, sure.
unidentified		Don't want to take a look at it, really.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've had some x-rays.
		Oh, you have had a couple years ago.
		And what did they show?
unidentified		Well, it's actually x-rays of my tooth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Your tooth?
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		And there is a shadow at the root of the tooth that looks kind of like an abscess.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Okay, but then last few months it's kind of altered and it's gone up into my head from your tooth.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Started in my ear with my tooth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Up to your head.
unidentified		Now into the head.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And what's it doing there?
unidentified		Um well it's let's just say been revealing things to me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		I had a feeling that it was doing something like that.
		All right.
		What what uh what sort of things have been re revealed to you?
unidentified		Well it's time for the brothers the sons of uh Abraham to stop their fighting.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is that what it said?
unidentified		It's time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's the same thing pals over there are saying, but it's not making any any difference.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So what did your implant tell you you can do to impress upon those embattled that they should lay down their arms and stop this crap?
unidentified		Okay, they all have to be given, you know, security, peace, and pride.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Security, peace, and pride.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And also a lot of them seem to want land.
unidentified		Yes, yes.
unidentified		And the Palestinians need their state.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They need their state, all right?
unidentified		The Israelis need their state.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		to root for a little bit of the holy city yes they need to quit the firing of holy city if they don't So then your implant actually is delivering, in a sense, messages straight from God, actually.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that is what you're saying.
unidentified		It seems to make sense, doesn't it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, okay, then you are surmising that.
		That's not an implant quote.
		That's you.
		Right?
		Hello?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, okay, all right.
		Okay, I wanted to get that straight.
		That's you, not the other one.
unidentified		That, you know, that is...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I got that.
		I got that.
		I mean, everybody thinks Jerusalem is theirs.
		Did you notice the hesitation there when I asked him that?
		That's not really the implant speaking, right?
		That was you.
		And this giant, in fact, I thought he almost hung up there.
		All right.
		You just don't know what's coming this night.
unidentified		Nor do I. This is Coast to Coast AM, Friday night, Saturday morning.
		I.
		I remember, how could I forget the first time the last time in the ever?
		But I know the reason why
		Why you can't talk the beauty of the job Call Art Bell in the Kingdom of Nigh from West of the Rockies at 1-800-618-8255.
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		And the Wildcard line is open at 1775-727-1295.
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		This is Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell from the Kingdom of Nine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let us review quickly the suggestions coming in for tonight's discussion.
		Any lines?
		People who have microchips implanted in their ears or brains.
		We've already had one of those, actually.
		It was difficult to separate the microchip orders from the personal comments of the implanted.
		And then somebody else suggests an Area 51 line, and he's absolutely right.
		If there are any Area 51 employees out there, now they don't talk frequently.
		You don't get a lot of Area 51 callers because they have to sign these papers that say their mother will be killed if they talk or whatever it is.
		So you don't get a lot of them, but they're definitely welcome if you're out there.
		And I think this category is a very important one.
		Carol in Mace, Arizona, with everything going to hell in a handbasket in the world right now, how about opening up lines to time travelers who have information?
		And surely, you know, time travel is going to be possible.
		I don't think there's any question about that.
		In fact, Mallet in Connecticut is working on it.
		We're working on getting Mallet, scientist in Connecticut.
		He's working on a time machine, a real time machine.
		Anyway, she wants to hear from time travelers about the outcome of what's going on in the world right now, Middle East, Afghanistan, weather changes, earthquakes, melting ice caps.
		And that would be a really, really, really, really good idea.
		So if there's anybody out there who is a time traveler, and I know you're out there, then by all means, try and get through on any one of the lines tonight and tell us what you know about what's coming.
		I mean, you've got to admit, these really are extremely interesting times.
		The melting poles, both sides, everything that's going on in the world right now, the Middle East.
		Heaven knows where it's all going.
		If there are time travelers, this would be a time they would come back to because this is an incredible time with incredible things beginning to occur on Earth.
		So you just, you know, they're out there.
unidentified		Call.
unidentified		Ha, ha, ha.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Back to the lines.
		Anything you want to talk about headed into the weekend is totally fair game.
		Wildcard line, you are on air.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		How are you doing, Art?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm doing okay, sir.
unidentified		Well, this one may be a little out in left field.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Never on this show.
		Out in left field.
		Where are you?
unidentified		I'm in Albuquerque, New Mexico.
unidentified		On all 770 KKOB.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		I'm retired military and currently a prison guard here in the state.
unidentified		I'm not going to say my name because I know a lot of my buddies are listening right now and they'll probably recognize my voice anyways.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Can I ask you a question?
unidentified		What's that?
		Can the inmates listen to my program?
		Actually, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They can.
		Yeah, I get all these letters from inmates.
		I mean, you wouldn't believe how many letters I get.
		And so apparently a lot of the jail folk listen.
		Anyway, go ahead.
unidentified		Well, a dear friend of mine passed away about seven, eight months ago waiting for a bone marrow transplant.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry.
unidentified		And I actually kind of came up with the idea from that.
unidentified		We have thousands of people across this country on death row.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I think I know where you're going, but proceed then.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You go there yourself.
unidentified		It's kind of a hairbrain idea.
		I know that.
		We're listening.
		We take everyone that's on death row that we're paying millions of dollars to house, feed, clothe, and take care of these guys.
		And we take them out to, say, Fort Bragg or Fort Drum, one of the big training bases here in the country.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		We just save the military thousands of dollars for training.
		We let these guys loose with one bullet and a gun.
		Tell them if they make it off the base alive, they're free.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, wait a minute.
		So in other words, you take them to the military base.
		They get one bullet and one gun, which now doesn't seem exactly fair.
		I mean, it's not all that sporting.
		But you set them loose on the military base, and then you alert all the military guys on the base to try and get them before they can get away with their one bullet in their gun.
unidentified		Just send in one unit.
unidentified		Send in one infantry unit.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		One infantry unit will be hunting for this guy with his gun and bullet.
		Yeah.
		And if he makes it out alive, then what?
unidentified		A free pardon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A free pardon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If, on the other hand, he is gunned down without mercy by the regiment you've sent after him or whatever, then he has to agree to have his organs harvested.
unidentified		No.
		He's going to be put to death anyways if he stays in the prison.
		It's a voluntary basis.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It would make one hell of a reality TV show.
unidentified		Yeah, I think.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'll tell you that right now.
		and another one bites the dust.
		Now, how do you think the prisoners that you guard, who are listening to this program right now and will recognize your voice, are going to...
		I mean, how do you think they're going to feel about what you've suggested nationally here?
unidentified		I actually imagine quite a few of them would go for the idea because they'd do anything just to get outside for a while.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I tell you what, do me a favor.
		Conduct a little survey for me.
		Go back and talk to some of them.
		I mean, what else have you got to do, basically?
		Talk to them and put it to them and tell me what they say.
unidentified		We'll do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'll be looking for either a call or email from you with the results of your survey.
unidentified		We'll do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, take care.
		And then, of course, any prisoners out there are welcome to respond.
		You know, we're still not taking snail mail.
		Don't send snail mail until they get this damn anthrax thing straightened out.
		We're not taking snail mail.
		Which really ticks me off.
		Anyway, now I'm hearing that we may never hear who did the anthrax thing because it could have been some sort of inside job.
		That's big rumor out there right now.
		East of the Rockies, you are on the air.
		Hello.
		Hello?
		Going once.
		You better speak.
		Going twice.
		Last chance.
		I can hear you.
		You're not there.
		Okay, goodbye.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Hi, Art.
		Hi.
		This is my first time calling, so I'm a little bit nervous.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, take a deep breath.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm serious.
unidentified		Take a deep breath.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That'll help.
unidentified		Well, the dreams that you've been getting from your emails are not aware of yourself.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you mean all the people having dreams about catastrophic events coming?
		Is that what you're doing?
		Yes.
unidentified		I've been having those for like the past two weeks.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, here we go.
		That's exactly the timeline, by the way, dear.
		That's when I began getting them about two weeks ago.
unidentified		Really?
		Yep.
		We'll see.
		And it's been going on.
		And it's not telling me really what's going on.
		I'm not psychic or anything, I don't think, but I just have bad feelings.
		And it's just really weird.
		And there's another thing I wanted to touch base with you on is I started listening to your show about a week ago, or I think it was a week and a half ago, and I heard that thing about that recording you played about that Russian hole.
		I don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The sounds from the Siberian hole.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where the scientists, after hearing what they had recorded on tape, they took off.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And can you blame them?
unidentified		No, I was so scared.
unidentified		I've been sleeping out in my living room for the past week because my husband's gone every night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ever since you heard that, you've been sleeping on the couch?
unidentified		Yes.
		Yes, yes.
		I mean, that's the most horrible thing I've ever done.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, you tell your husband for me that that is not my fault.
		That's not my fault.
		That's the way you heard the tape, and that's all there is to it.
unidentified		I know, but do you believe that that's real?
unidentified		I mean, by putting video cameras down there or anything?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		would you really want to see the results of the video camera that was taking a picture of this uh...
unidentified		uh...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		My guess is, dear, that after you saw the video shot of that, you'd be sleeping in the car.
unidentified		In shock, probably, yeah.
unidentified		That just scared me so bad.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I have no idea what that sound was.
		All right.
		Well, listen, thank you very much for the call, and go back to bed.
unidentified		I'm going to listen to your show first.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		See you later.
unidentified		Bye, Art, Bob.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
		First time caller line.
		You're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Hi, Art.
		How are you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm okay, sir.
unidentified		Yeah, this is Chuck.
unidentified		I'm listening to you on the Big Talker 1210 WPHC in Philadelphia.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Philadelphia, yes, indeed.
unidentified		All righty.
		I wanted to call you last year.
		You had one of those call-in open-line things that a true story or not a true story, and people had to vote on it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Truth or trash, it is.
unidentified		I'll preface this by saying everything that I have to say here is absolutely 100% true.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		And if I were a religious person, I would swear on a stack of Bible.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But you see, having prefaced your comments with the whole truth or trash concept, you put what you're saying in doubt.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why didn't you just call up and say, God, I have this absolutely true story for you?
unidentified		This is an incredibly true story, I have to tell you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, that's better.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead.
unidentified		All right.
		Probably about 15 years ago or so, I was hanging out at my friend's house, and he had three cats who always got along.
		He had a gray tabby, one that kind of looked like Yeti, the orangey-color tabby thing, and this really, really old, the white Persian thing.
		And they always got along.
		Well, one day, this big orange fat tabby came to the back of the door.
		The sliding glass door was open.
		The screen door was shut.
		It was summertime.
		And the three cats were sitting there in a semicircle looking at this cat.
		And they just sat there and kind of looked at each other.
		And I remember saying to my friend Stop, I said, what's with the cats?
		We're sitting there, we're looking at the cats.
		Next thing you know, they start chattering in this really weird, cats, it was like this goofy cat language.
		They're kind of going like, making these weird sounds.
		So this went on for probably about half an hour or so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, really?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
unidentified		And so I said to my friend Stottis, go get your tape recorders.
unidentified		He ran and got his tape recorder and set it out and sat it next to the cats and taped a portion of this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, oh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'll get to that too.
unidentified		Okay, okay.
		So they started kind of, at first it was like they were chatting with each other, and then it started to get this heated argument.
		And it was getting louder and louder.
		And it was getting excited, and the cat outside was, you know, the hare started standing up and they were like, man, look, they're arguing.
		We thought it was kind of funny.
		Well, the three cats inside just started going crazy, tearing each other up, and fur was flying everywhere.
		What?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		The cat.
unidentified		What's that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Nothing.
		I said, what, really?
		I'm picturing this one cat started a fight among the other three.
unidentified		Yeah, it's like he came in and just kind of stirred the pot up a little bit.
		So the cats were going crazy, and Chris, we call him Stob, but he ran in the other room, grabbed a blanket, and came out and we tried to separate the cats.
		While we're trying to separate the cats, the orange one, he was like a little baby.
		He took off.
		And we're trying to separate the old cats.
		I mean, it was this old thing.
		It would lick itself and forget to pull its tongue in.
		It was a mess.
		And it was sitting there, and we were trying to separate them, and it was the big gray tabby, and this cat were trying to separate them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you mean like in a bar fight?
unidentified		Like in a bar fight.
		So we're supposed to do it with blankets.
		We were trying to stretch this book between the two.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, blankets are different.
unidentified		And the cat, the old Persian one, kind of hunched up a little bit and said, get away!
unidentified		And it sounded just like that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You lie.
		I swear.
		Wait a minute.
		Do you have a tape of this?
unidentified		I don't have a tape of that.
unidentified		That's what I was going to get to that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's the rosemary.
unidentified		As soon as the cat said that, I looked at Stav and I said, what did he say?
		And the hair was standing up on my end.
		And he said, get away, man.
		You got to get away, man.
		So he started freaking out.
		So I just dropped the blanket.
		I said, hey, it's your cat.
		And I walked away.
		And so he had to deal with the cats.
		Well, we had this tape, but it had cut off way before that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, Rosemary did it, right?
unidentified		And all we had was the, you know, the like that part.
		So the cats, after a while, kind of calmed down, and like weeks went by.
		We were telling the story to somebody, and we had the tape.
		So we would bring the tape out, and every time we played the tape, the cats would go nuts, and they started tearing each other up about it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're claiming, anyway, you still have this part of the tape.
unidentified		His sister, because she got really mad, because every time all the friends would come over, we'd play this tape, the cats would go nuts.
unidentified		She erased the tape.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, for heaven's sakes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Rosemary, probably.
unidentified		It made me so...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, you honestly, you called up in the beginning, you said you swear on a stack of Bibles.
unidentified		If I were religious person, if you were religious, well, if I were a decent, God-fearing, church-going personally, put my hand on a stack of Bibles and swear to this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Which you apparently are not.
unidentified		I would not, but it's still the truth.
unidentified		So whether or not I wish to be stricken down by an angry God if I lied.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, fine.
		I mean, I'll accept that.
		All right.
		I mean, you've got to admit, even though you may not be a believer, it could all be true, and you'd be taking a terrible chance swearing on a stack of Bibles if it weren't.
		Right.
unidentified		And I wouldn't call you up.
		If we're going to make up a story, I'm sure it'd be a lot better than a cat saying get away.
		But the only thing we ever heard the cat says.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, all right.
		No, listen.
		Thank you for the call.
		It was a good call, and I'll add to it a little bit.
		My wife, we have two exceptionally intelligent cats.
		Shadow, who is partial to me.
		She's the only female we have.
		She sleeps with me.
		She spoons me every night and sleeps with me.
		She's incredible.
		Oh, she's scary.
		She is scary.
		She's so intelligent.
		And Yeti, who is extremely intelligent.
		Except he's a kid.
		He's still a kid and he plays his entire life.
		It's devoted to play.
		The shadow, however, my wife says, has whispered in her ear.
		Has come up in bed and whispered in her ear that something actually said from a cat of mine.
		And if you were to look at this cat of mine and spend any time at all with it, you wouldn't doubt that.
		You would look into the piercing, staring, unblinking, almost frighteningly intelligent eyes, and you really wouldn't doubt that story, and you wouldn't need a stack of Bibles.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
		Hello, Art.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Okay, you've called my opinion pedestrian, but I keep thinking about it, and so I want to.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, let me listen again.
		We'll see if we still think it's pedestrian.
		Go ahead.
unidentified		Okay.
		I believe that time travel is not possible because time doesn't exist.
		And you have stated that time exists because of motion.
		And I don't quite understand that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, yes, I do regard it as pedestrian.
		If there were no objects at all, if there was no space, in other words, an instant before the Big Bang, there was no time because there was no reference.
		The only way we have to know there is time is to have a reference for it, and that means have different objects in the universe.
		The moon goes around the Earth.
		We can document the amount of time that takes, the ticks, the number of ticks it takes, or the number of ticks for the Earth to go around the Sun or other.
		And that's what I mean by motion.
		Do you understand?
		Yes.
		That's how we calculate the passage of time because we correlate it with and compare it to motion.
		Okay?
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's what I'm saying.
unidentified		All right.
		But and the other theory that supposedly proves it is that, you know, watches slow down when you approach the speed of light.
		But basically, that's a mechanical object that's slowing down.
		It doesn't prove that time exists.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Actually, sir, if you take two watches that are precise and you put them in jet planes and fly them in opposite directions from each other, you get a completely different result on those accurate time pieces.
		Did you know that?
		No.
		Well, then know it now.
unidentified		But what does that mean?
unidentified		They're basically mechanical devices.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm not certain what it means.
		I just know it's true.
		And I think time is measured that way against either distance or movement of objects.
unidentified		I agree with that, except that it's just a man-made idea to measure something we call time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
		We've concocted all this based on our physical universe and what we can see and observe.
		What choice do we have?
unidentified		Well, the other choice, well, we have a choice not to measure time at all.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, we don't.
		What kind of world would it be if we didn't measure time at all?
		You're probably one of those people who just doesn't want to arrive to work on time or something.
		I don't know.
		Listen, we got a break.
		Bottom of the hour is coming up.
		I'm Art Bell.
		This is Nancy.
unidentified		I got some troubles, but they won't last.
		I'm gonna lay right down here in the grass.
		And pretty soon all my troubles will pass.
		Cause I'm sugar down.
		I never had a dog that liked me some.
		Never had a friend that wanted one.
		So I just lay back and let them.
		Cause I'm in shoot shoes.
		Shoo-choo-choo-choo-shoo-choo.
		Sugar down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Tell me sweet little love Hey, it's open lives, everybody.
		Friday night, Saturday morning.
		We'll entertain just about anything under the sun.
		Actually, we've already done that.
		The gorilla story.
		The females, the sun, the females, the babies, the ritual, that was pretty good.
		And then I'd say the cat story was right on up there, too.
		The argument.
unidentified		Then the yelled statements.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
		Anybody else with one like that?
		We'll be right back.
unidentified		And then, of course, we can't prevent...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I thought that was classic, too.
		The suggestion of giving these prisoners one gun, one bullet, and then putting them on a military base, giving them military practice.
		I don't know.
		It's stuff of a new reality TV show.
		I think we could call it Oregon Dash.
		You know, they try and make it off the base live, right?
		If they don't make it off, why their organs are donated for a worthy cause, you know, like a man's friend who died waiting for the bone transplant.
		And if they make it out, then they win their freedom.
		Oregon Dash.
		Tonight at 10.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Art?
		That would be me.
		Yeah, hi.
unidentified		My name's Willie from Centralia, Missouri.
unidentified		I'm listening to you out of St. Louis.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Willie.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What's up?
unidentified		Well, I've got an interesting theory.
		Okay.
		About the Antarctica ice shelf, how it fell into the ocean and everything.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The Larsenby ice shelf, sir, actually.
		Just completely disintegrated and fell into the ocean and up at the North Pole.
		They're expecting a new ocean soon, yes.
unidentified		Well, here in Missouri, we usually have pretty harsh winters.
unidentified		And all year this year, We've had no winter, no snow whatsoever.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've got a theory.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know we're having a drought all across the country.
unidentified		I think aliens are secretly changing our atmosphere and adapting it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		To something more like what they're used to?
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		To where they can inhabit our planet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I wonder what kind of eventual climate is going to suit them, if that is the case.
unidentified		Well, look at Mars.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do we got to look forward to?
		Well, I'd rather not.
		We're not good up on Mars.
		We'd have to have spacesuits to be on Mars.
		Yeah.
		Yeah.
unidentified		Mars used to be like Earth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		And no telling what is on Mars.
		There's pyramids on Mars.
		There's a face on Mars.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There's all kinds of things on Mars.
		Yes.
		Even foliage, perhaps.
unidentified		Yeah, underground water.
		Yep.
		And they may have already done it to Mars.
		And they could be doing it to us.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So in other words, Mars could actually now be a habitable planet for whoever's there.
		And they could be converting our atmosphere to that that would suit them, which would be more like Mars.
		I get it.
		I see.
		Well, that would be entirely unsatisfactory for all the humans.
		And even maybe the microbes.
		Now, I don't exactly know what the atmosphere on Mars is like, but it wouldn't be good.
		Now, if that's the beginning of the change that we're getting right now, that would just not be satisfactory.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		How are you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm Ookie.
unidentified		I've been listening to some of the series and quite comical, actually.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It depends on which side of the Oregon you're on.
unidentified		That's true.
		Well, let's see.
		Where do I start?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The beginnings are always the beginning.
unidentified		The beginnings are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The only way we'll understand.
unidentified		Well, my father was stationed at Roswell in 1947 when that craft came down.
unidentified		He does have pieces of the craft.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you can stop right there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, is your father still alive?
unidentified		Yes, he is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And he is in possession of crashed pieces from a saucer at Roswell.
unidentified		Oh, yes, he was a major at the time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What is he going to do with these pieces?
unidentified		Well, upon his death, he's going to turn them over to me.
unidentified		He has colon cancer and cancer of the few other things.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And what are you going to do with the pieces?
unidentified		I'm going to turn them over to the museum at Roswell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you are?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's not bad, sir.
		That's not bad.
		I thought you were going to, for a second, I thought you said you were going to give them to the military.
unidentified		No.
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The museum at Roswell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So they've got a lot to look forward to down there.
unidentified		I've already talked with them about it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, really?
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		My former rank was full colonel.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In what?
unidentified		At Roswell.
unidentified		At Area 51.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You.
unidentified		For 11 and a half years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You worked at Area 51.
unidentified		Underground.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Over the hill from me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Underground.
unidentified		All 27 levels.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, okay.
		That's the first I've heard of that.
		27 levels.
unidentified		27 levels.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Underground.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So those photographs we see, usually Russian satellite photographs of the above-ground stuff, that's nothing compared to what's underground.
unidentified		That's nothing compared to what's underground.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		27 levels.
		Can you describe anything about the levels or...
		Oh, I'd like to know it all.
		Whatever you're willing.
		Any bean you're willing to spill.
unidentified		Do you have your tape on?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Always, sir.
unidentified		Okay.
		Now, let's see.
		Where do I start?
		Boy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You were a young, eager Area 51 young employee, and then what?
unidentified		Well, see, I was an extremely young lieutenant at first duty station was the Pentagon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Second duty station was, of course, Nevada.
unidentified		The reason that I was stationed there was because my father requested that I be stationed there because of my background and experiences when I was a young child.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And of course, and his as well, of course.
unidentified		And his too, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So we all want to know what's at Area 51.
unidentified		Area 51.
unidentified		Well, you remember a while back when there was a bunch of kids on milk cartons missing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Guess where they're at?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Area 51.
unidentified		You hit it right on the market.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, why would the milk carton kids be at Area 51?
unidentified		No, not a milk carton.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I understand children.
		Well, I called them milk carton kids.
		Why would they be up there?
unidentified		Because they are being genetically altered under genetic engineering to allow them to survive the poisons that have been placed in our atmosphere by us.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So when it comes to only the cockroaches survive, it'll be the cockroaches and the Melkharten kids.
unidentified		Well, it goes on very extensively from there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's disgusting.
unidentified		Another thing that might be of interest to you, I've heard you mention on one or several of your advertisements of your show.
		Yes.
		The hollow earth theory.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I've had guess on about it, yeah.
unidentified		The hollow earth is definitely hollow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is.
		So that's real.
		That's not real.
unidentified		Yes, we have had several of our staff at Area 51 have visited the interior world.
unidentified		Colonel Stevenson, Shallon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I had somebody who called the show and said, every hole greater than 10,000 feet is classified.
		And then he went out and didn't send me email and tell me why.
		You wouldn't happen to know, would you?
unidentified		The reason that he said that is basically any cave that you take a compass with and hold it in front of the cave, if it spins like you're at the North Pole, it goes all the way through.
unidentified		Wow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow, now that's an interesting bit of trivia.
unidentified		Yes, it is.
unidentified		And Mount Shasta is a major opening.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so if you think you've got a hole that goes endlessly, get a compass, and if the compass spins all the way through.
		Oh, that's hot stuff.
		And what do you know about what's in the inner earth?
unidentified		It is inhabited by a race of people called the Arianians.
unidentified		They were met by Admiral Richard Edeland in 1940.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Say that name again?
unidentified		The Arianians.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Arianians.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'll have to remember them.
unidentified		In 1947.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And what are they like?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What are the Arianians like?
unidentified		Well, they're large in stature.
unidentified		The males are between 13 to 13 and a half feet tall.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow, they must have big ceilings.
unidentified		Well, people, actually, the trees in the interior, if you'll notice, Admiral Byrd talked about it in his diary, which I have read fully.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Actually, that is the truth.
unidentified		Yes, the trees in the interior world, they rise to a level of 130 to 1,500 feet in the air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Holy smokes.
unidentified		And when his DC-3 flew past him in 1947, they had to avoid the trees in order to avoid collision.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Boy, can you imagine if the lumber companies got hold of that information?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you swear on a stock of Bibles that you were an Area 51 employee for that period of time.
unidentified		Employee of the U.S. government.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, why are there so many levels?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, are they all dedicated to separate things or are they?
unidentified		Well, what's interesting, the first six levels were built by man.
		The remaining levels were already there.
		Oh, cool.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So in other words, we just built down to the top of their layers.
unidentified		That's right.
		Wow.
		There's tunnels that go from Area 51 as far as the Atlantic Ocean, out into the center, enjoined to a pyramid underneath the Atlantic Ocean.
		You have tunnels that go from Area 51 to the middle of the Pacific Ocean.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're serious.
unidentified		Quite.
		there's tunnels that intersect with Hawaii.
		How can you say all of this without fear of I looked at them and I said, kiss me.
		I said, once I'm out of your...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's one thing I remember from it.
unidentified		But I also have a very rare blood type, so they don't mess with me.
unidentified		Anyway, but anyway.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You think all of that protects you?
unidentified		Oh, yes.
		Yes, it does.
		The way they put it to me was, they said, no one will believe you, so we're not worried about you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, they could be right about that.
		All right.
		Anything else we should know about Area 51?
		Any high points that are very important?
unidentified		High points?
		Sure.
		We have a fleet of aeroships there called XX-118s.
		They are sportscraft models.
		I have flown one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Personally?
unidentified		Personally.
		They work on the touch control.
		So when you put your hands on the panels, the actual panels have six fingers, but you can put your hands in them and match them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, see, that is reminiscent, of course, of some of the Roswell material.
unidentified		Yes, true.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Six fingers.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's something.
unidentified		Some of your material that was, well, some of the technology that we have came from Roswell, such as the microchip.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yep, I understand a lot of technology came from Roswell.
unidentified		Well, most of the computer stuff came from Roswell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And are there, as reported by some, sections of that underground area where there are craft, extraterrestrial craft, and, it is rumored, beings that are held there?
unidentified		Well, they're not held there against their will.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They're there by choice.
unidentified		They are there by choice.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, did they come down, as in from the sky and then below Earth, or did they come up from below?
unidentified		First contact with alien beings was at a little experience we had at a thing called Philadelphia Experiment.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That would be Albelix thing.
		All right, sir.
		Thank you very, very much.
		Well, what grade do you give that story?
		A man who claims he worked at Area 51 had an awful lot of details there about underground stuff.
		Scale of 1 to 10, what do you give that?
		with 10 being unimpeachable, with one being he, First time caller line, you are on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Art for whom the nocturnal bell tolls.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it does do that.
unidentified		Greetings from Jeffrey in Clearwater, Florida.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		What type of scientific data do we have on plasma balls?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Actually, we have some new, startling information on plasma balls.
		I listened to a guest on Whitley Streeber's Dreamland, a scientist who has now documented that plasma balls are able to exist in our atmosphere and maintain their level of energy, or get this, sir, and this defies all known physics, increase the amount of energy as they exist in our atmosphere.
		And there is no known way with the physics we know that that can occur, and yet they have actually measured that.
		That is the latest we've got on plasma balls.
unidentified		And these are gaseous objects?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, they're not altogether sure.
unidentified		I have seen plasma balls twice and was curious as to your information that you've just presented.
unidentified		I heard a guest that you had on, I believe the gentleman was from Texas several weeks ago, who discussed plasma balls in passing With you, but he didn't give any real scientific data.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, there is new scientific data on plasma balls, and that's it.
		That for whatever reason, yet unknown, they can document that they're able to increase the amount of energy they're using and or their size in our atmosphere.
		Now, that defies all known physics.
		In other words, if a ball of something is created, say, by a strike of lightning and it would exist in the atmosphere, but it would quickly deplete, it would not or could not maintain the amount of energy as a plasma ball and or even more incredibly increase it, you bet.
unidentified		Correct.
		Now, are we, do we have multiple sightings throughout the country?
		Oh, those are throughout the world?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, absolutely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes, yes, yes.
unidentified		So they're not indigenous to particular areas per se?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No?
unidentified		I was just very curious.
unidentified		I saw a couple a few years ago, and that to me is exactly what they were.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And what did they look like?
unidentified		The objects that I saw were probably about the size of a beach ball.
		And they were seen, I saw these in Illinois.
		And there were other people witnessing this as well, myriad people.
		And actually, it traveled at an alarming rate of speed.
		It was at a distance and looked very small.
		Actually, it looked like a light.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you want me to throw you a curve in the whole thing?
unidentified		I'm ready.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've got a bunch of emails from people who saw what they thought were plasma balls or began as plasma balls and were small, but then became larger.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In fact, we've got eyewitness reports of balls enlarging to the point that something crawled out of them.
unidentified		I can tell you the one that I saw, I did not go back to the spot after the second time because a friend did in which this particular or a plasma ball in that area hovered over the car for nanoseconds, but it melted the paint on the roof and on the hood of the car and it rendered the car mechanically useless.
		So I didn't return.
		But as this plasma ball came towards us and did not stop, it would be behind us at a tremendous length at that distance very small, and then it would travel back towards us.
		Absolutely amazing.
		But it was a ball of fire.
		It was not a light.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anything that would intentionally screw up the paint job of your car is evil.
unidentified		I agree.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Have a good morning, sir.
		Wildcard line, you are on air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hey, good morning, Art.
		How are you doing?
		It's John here from Winnipeg.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, John.
unidentified		I was hoping I could give you something to consider regarding Israel, if I might.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What is Israel and the big mess in the Middle East?
unidentified		Yeah, what a mess it is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		You know, I often hear in American commentary suggesting that it's, you know, tit-for-tat, you know, and there's no way of resolving the issue.
		And, you know, I really feel that that's really not the total truth to the situation.
		And I could just give you a couple examples.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you think is the truth, sir?
unidentified		Well, the truth is, okay, here's a couple things.
unidentified		People need to understand that Ariel Sharon advocates the confiscation of people's property for no crime that they've committed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They just, on the other hand, is concerned about these people who keep strapping explosives onto their bodies and blowing themselves and a lot of Israelis up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That is a problem, you know?
unidentified		Yeah.
		Well, I can get to that, but I just wanted to give you just a comparison.
		The idea there is if you're Catholic and you live in Israel, you're forbidden to own property, so that's not a democracy, right?
		Or you have to be, only Jewish people can own property.
		So if you're not Jewish, you're not going to be owning any property.
		And as they progress through the confiscation of land, the people who own those houses and the property that is contained in those houses, and in some cases, the history of the families go as far back as history takes us.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'd say that both sides are at fault.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, certainly you can't condone blowing people up.
unidentified		Well, that's a different issue.
unidentified		Like, I just wanted to say that one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's not, though.
		I mean, every time they approach peace over there, more people are getting blown up.
		It's not an issue you could ignore.
unidentified		Right, exactly.
		Okay, so that's the one thing.
		The idea there is is Arafat, of course, doesn't do those things.
		Doesn't confiscate people's property or advocate murdering police officers or innocent civilians.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, but he does, according to many, advocate blowing people up with bombs.
unidentified		That's criminal acts that take place outside of his authority.
unidentified		Well, here's an example.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The Israelis don't really believe that.
		And anyway, it's not going to end.
		It's coming to you-know-what.
		It's going to happen.
		It's gonna happen.
unidentified		What?
		Who?
		Yeah.
		What is it good for?
		Absolutely nothing.
		Uh-huh.
		What?
		Who?
		Yeah.
		What is it good for?
		Absolutely nothing.
		Say again, y'all.
		What?
		Who?
		Yeah.
		What is it good for?
		Absolutely nothing.
		Listen to me.
		Oh, what?
		I despise.
		Cause it means destruction of innocent lives.
		War means tears.
		The thousands of mothers have.
		When their sons go up to fight and lose their lives.
		I said war.
		Good God, y'all.
		What is it good for?
		Absolutely nothing.
		Oh.
		All of times have come, here but now they're gone.
		Seasons don't feel the reproach.
		No due to wind and the sun or the rain.
		Me like that.
		Come on, baby.
		Don't feel the rain.
		Baby, take my hand.
		Don't feel the rain.
		We'll be able to fly.
		Don't feel the rain.
		Baby, I'm your man.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		People calling that by name that is real and cities I mean I seminar liar that all citizens can own property.
		They're even Russian Orthodox own property, so that's interesting.
		May or may not be true, I don't know.
		More people than not on my path plan for saying that.
		If you'll stay right where you are, we're into totally open lines and anything goes territory.
		And now it's back into the night and let's see where to begin.
		Here I guess, first-time caller line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Good morning, Mr. Bell.
unidentified		How are you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You really are a first-time caller to the show, right?
unidentified		Oh, indeed I am.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And what is your first name?
unidentified		My first name is Jim.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Jim.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, Jim.
unidentified		Hey.
unidentified		We're listening to you 970 WFOA.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, in Florida, yes.
unidentified		Beautiful place.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It certainly is.
unidentified		Indeed.
		This happened to me and one of my backups.
		I'm formerly law enforcement.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ah, formerly a cop.
unidentified		We'll say formally.
		Okay, and let it go with that.
		Okay.
		Okay, we need to keep credibility.
		However, this happened 25 years ago, back in 77, 6th of October.
		The night was foggy and misty, and I recall it was not quite a full moon that time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Were you in Florida then?
unidentified		No, I was up north.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		All right.
		So what happened was we had to patrol a water reservoir, and why we had to do that is because it took two lightning strikes and it killed the lights.
		So it had no lights except around the office area.
		All chain link fence and padlock gate, blah, blah, blah.
		So what we had to do, I called base and said, hey, I'm going out through.
		And my backup heard that, and the backup says, hey, I'm half a mile away from you, Jay.
		Let me know if you need me.
		So I went up around the perimeter of the fence and made my circle on the outside.
		The wooded area, distance to the fence was roughly 25 foot.
		And there was a driveway that you could drive around the whole complex.
		So I drove around that, secured that, thought, okay, now we need to go inside.
		So we've been up to the gate, called my backups, and I'm entering.
		And he said, okay, he's on me.
		He'll be on his way.
		He'll cover my back.
		So in the meantime, beginning to make my run through this.
		It's roughly 20, 25, 26 acres of land there.
		It was all chain light.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Okay, going up around this.
unidentified		I'm on the far end of it, furthest away from the gate, naturally.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Naturally.
unidentified		Naturally, Murphy's Law.
		And I'm going up through there, and I have my lights up in high beam, and I have my side spotlight on, and I'm going up through there, and all of a sudden I see this quite unusual glow coming back at me.
		It should have been yellow, but it wasn't.
		It was red.
		Pretty beautiful red, but nevertheless red.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, what should have been yellow?
unidentified		Well, what should have been yellow was the reflectors that are on the trees roughly 25 feet back.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you see this red coming back?
unidentified		I see this red coming back.
unidentified		I stopped and I thought, well, okay, out of the norm, I backed up and I took the cruiser and I put the lights to the fence.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Made sure they're up in high beam.
		And I have, now I clicked the spotlight on and what I saw, I never talked about it except for my backup.
		And I called the backup immediately and I said, you need to get up here ASAP, but come up dark.
		No red and blues on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, let's backtrack a little bit.
		You never told anybody else.
		You tell me.
		What did you see?
unidentified		What I saw was an entity.
unidentified		It reminded me I had a very clear view of it, exceptionally clear view of it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		It had a face.
		As I recall, it was a bat.
		It looked like a bat face.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Like a bat?
unidentified		Like a bat.
unidentified		A regular bat?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Saw a bat.
unidentified		Just take that bat face and enlarge it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		To a human size, even bigger?
unidentified		Well, no, not bigger.
unidentified		Actually smaller.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Smaller than a normal head?
unidentified		Smaller than a human head, because this creature, animal, humanoid, whatever it was, was standing, but it wasn't flat-footed.
unidentified		It was like on its toes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Okay, and it was like hunched over a little bit.
		And it like where the shoulders were, it had like knob, a knobby protrudance coming off the top of the shoulders.
		I didn't realize exactly what it was until a little bit later.
		Then I understood it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And it had eyes?
unidentified		It definitely had eyes.
		And I flipped the spotlight off of it, turned it back on, and it blinked back at me.
		And I, oh my goodness, I remember my heart was racing.
		And here comes my backup.
		He's coming around the, I told him to go around the perimeter of the fence and come up on the side.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In the dark, yeah.
unidentified		In the dark, yeah.
		He had his parking lights on.
		Okay.
		Okay.
		And I said, do you see me?
		And he says, yeah, oh yeah, I see you.
		What are you looking at?
		And I said, you're not going to believe this, but you keep on coming and you're definitely going to see it.
		And as my backup got closer to this, it turned.
		And then I saw a side view of it.
		And it looked to me as if it had folded wings.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And folded wings.
unidentified		It looked to me as if it had been bad.
unidentified		I'm telling you the truth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This is getting better and better as we go.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So when it turned, was your partner now close enough to see it himself?
unidentified		He says he stopped and he got on the radio and he said to me, Jay, what is that?
		They call me, he used to call me Jay.
		He said, what is that?
		And I said, well, choose whatever you want to call it, a deer or a bear, but we need to file a report about this.
		And he threw his lights on, and when he threw his lights on it, this thing took off towards the cruiser, towards those lights.
		You would think it would go the opposite way, beat an animal.
		But it didn't.
		It went to it.
		And it took three hops, column.
		One, two, three, and it went airborne.
		And when it went airborne, I reached inside the cruiser because at that time I had my door open.
		I reached inside the cruiser and grabbed the shotgun.
		I thought, oh my.
		And this thing went right out over the top of that cruiser.
		Right out of the top of my backup.
		Wow.
		Right out over it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well.
unidentified		And I'll tell you what I heard.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes?
unidentified		You remember your mother flapping the sheets on the bed?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, of course.
unidentified		That's exactly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The sound it made?
unidentified		That's exactly.
		That's exactly what it was.
		A flapping like you flap bed sheets.
		Yeah.
		You flap the bed sheets.
		Of course everyone sounds down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So, how did you and your partner report this when you put on the fives?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, what was it?
unidentified		Well, what we reported was that we got our heads together and said, you know, it's like seeing the UFO.
unidentified		We're supposed to keep, you know, quiet about things.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you reported what?
unidentified		We reported a bear.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A bear.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, now, is your partner still alive?
unidentified		No, he died.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He died.
unidentified		He died in an auto accident.
unidentified		Phaedrical accident.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well?
unidentified		That's unfortunate for him.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate your bringing the story here.
		What is it you think you saw?
		I mean, what do you have a name for it?
		Do you know?
unidentified		No, I don't have a name for it, but.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The red glow, was it coming from the eyes?
unidentified		It was from the eyes.
		You could see it.
		It was distinct.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Yep, I've got it.
		All right.
		Well, I really appreciate the call.
		There's another law enforcement officer with a very distinct story.
unidentified		Now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		What do you say about that?
		Sounded rational to me, for sure.
		But that doesn't sound like a rational story, does it?
		Now, it does sound rational that he reported a bear.
		That's some story.
		I don't want to see anything like that.
unidentified		Ever.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't like glowing red eyes.
		I never have.
		It's been, and everybody has their thing, right?
		For some, it's spiders and whatever all that scare people.
		For me, it's glowing red eyes.
		Uh-uh.
		And that's probably exactly what I'll find.
		I'll pass over on the other side, and he'll be these eyes.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello.
		My name is John.
		Hey, Art.
		How are you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm doing okay, sir.
unidentified		All right.
		Yeah, back in the 80s, I was wearing a pyramid hat.
		I wore a pyramid hat for going on 10 years, almost eight hours a day, working as a lifeguard.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You wore a pyramid hat as a lifeguard?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Didn't people tend to...
unidentified		Uh-huh, yeah.
		I got in the Today newspaper.
		What happened is I got really badly sunburned, and it was a new job.
		I didn't have much money, so I built this hat out of cardboard, and I used gold-covered mylar, you know, the sheets that they use for sun protection.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		And I coated it with that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you were only trying to protect yourself from the sun, actually.
unidentified		Right.
		So the newspaper people got a picture of me, and I got on the B section.
		It says, lifeguard is tool of the trade, saves them from the scorching sun.
		So nobody gave me a hard time about it.
		I was aware of it.
		I sort of became a beacon for unusual people to come visit me.
		One of the first people who came was Bob, an Egyptologist from NASA.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, really?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Because of your hat?
unidentified		Because of my hat.
unidentified		Exactly what he said.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there have been long rumors, sir, that NASA has been giving an unusual, I mean, irrational interest into Giza and the pyramids, and that they even launch on schedules, ancient schedules, and all kinds of interesting things.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So maybe NASA figured you knew something.
unidentified		Well, he told me about the Great Seal of America.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This guy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He did.
unidentified		You know what's the Great Seal of America, you know, the pyramid on the dollar bill.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		With the eyeball.
unidentified		Right.
		And then a lot of different people started visiting me.
		Like, really, really unusual people would come in and just kind of fill me in on strange things, and I never see them again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, these are the risks you take when you wear a pyramid hat for how many years?
unidentified		About ten years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ten years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		and i i made on that i'd paint them where were there any after effects that you could know thing well you know before before i was a non-believer and i became uh...
unidentified		In the Holy Ghost.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The Holy Ghost.
unidentified		Yeah, I, let me see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How about the Father and the Son?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Or just is it just the Holy Ghost?
unidentified		Well, you know, the whole story, I got a theory behind why we're alive, actually.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why do you think we're alive?
unidentified		Entertainment.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Entertainment?
unidentified		Entertainment.
unidentified		Yep.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know what?
		I actually agree with that, to some degree.
		Entertainment.
		It's a big part of life.
		Laughter, wonderment, new things, adventure, things you've never heard about, done before.
		Entertainment.
		It all loosely comes under the category of entertainment.
		So I don't necessarily disagree with that.
		Kind of like this program.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hey, R. What's up, Richard, man?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm cruising through the night here.
unidentified		All right, okay, good enough.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I feel you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Encountering as I go.
unidentified		Okay, all right, all right.
		Here we go then.
		Dwayne calling you from the Anything Goes Open Line on the Big 89, 890 AM WLS in Chicago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Okay, listen, got a friend of mine who was staring in the mirror day before yesterday, kind of interrogating himself.
		You know, he said he really wanted to get to what was going on in his life.
		So he started telling himself truths about himself, truth about everything.
		You know, just being truthful.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Standing in front of the mirror, sort of just spilling his guts about his life to himself.
unidentified		Exactly.
		Got it.
		Now, I'm the one that listens to you and been listening to you since 96, and I'm into all this stuff, but he's not, okay?
		And he tells me that as he's standing there, staring in the mirror, letting everything go, what happened was, you know how you follow your, you move, your reflection moves.
		It just kind of follows you around.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely seems to do that, yeah.
unidentified		Okay?
		And he said that at one point he noticed that his reflection was frozen and staring back at him.
		Really?
		Yeah.
		And as a matter of fact, I told him I'd be calling you.
		And, you know, if you want to call him and, you know, quiz him about it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you mean he's willing to talk about this on the air?
unidentified		Absolutely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And there's something about mirrors, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, mirrors have always been mystical and magical, and they seem to cause things to happen.
unidentified		And not only do I agree with you, but I was telling him, again, I'm into all this stuff, you know, listening to you for years, and I told myself, okay, you know, you take all the, throw in some of the power type things as far as energy sources.
		And I said, what you should try is take a magnet and put it on either side of the mirror and see if that'll do anything to, you know, magnify it, boost the effect, what have you.
		Me, it wouldn't freak me out.
		I'd jump right in there and be like, cool.
		But he was like, whoa, I'm not.
		Not me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, if I saw my image stop or freeze while I was still moving, oh, I don't know what I'd do.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah, but I told him I'd be calling you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well, listen, if you would like to email me his name and or phone number, or he would.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I would be happy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'd love to hear it firsthand.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Not a problem.
		Let me ask you.
		Do you think?
		Because he was asking, well, hey, why don't you call the art bell guy and run it past him and see what it could be?
		And could it be out of body?
		Or if any other callers out there have ever had this happen, you know, it'd be kind of cool if they call in and just, you know, throw their stories out there and see what happens.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Done deal.
unidentified		And bless you and the family.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		Thank you and take care.
		Sure, yeah, we'll throw it out there.
		Anybody else had a mirror experience?
		There's a lot of lore to go with what you just heard.
		Mirrors are very interesting things.
		And to actually take time, crazy as it might seem, and to, in effect, have a conversation with yourself while watching yourself, getting incredibly introspective, and then to suddenly have an experience with a mirror returning a vision that doesn't match the present reality is not a surprise.
		So yes, if there's any other similar stories out there, probably the best way to be assured to get to me is to email me right now to this damn anthrax thing.
		I suppose eventually we'll just give up and figure whoever did it is gone and start taking mail again.
		In the meantime, artbell at mindspring.com or artbell at aol.com will definitely get to me.
		Welcome to the Rockies.
		You're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
unidentified		This is Bill from Rialto.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Bill.
unidentified		I was listening to your interview with Mr. Morton last night, happily tapping away on my typewriter with some suggestions for lightweight tactical nuclear weapons for the restructuring of our arsenal.
unidentified		And he said something I hadn't heard in years, and that was red mercury.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you oh, that's right.
		He did.
		He said red mercury would drastically enhance the killing effect of, say, a one kiloton weapon, or probably even any weapon.
		Oh, yes.
		I'd never heard of that before.
unidentified		You have?
unidentified		Oh, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you know?
unidentified		Well, it was first discovered, and so far it only occurs naturally in South Africa.
		It helped their nuclear program.
		They had four at the time the government fell.
		Well, it didn't exactly fall.
		One of Mr. Botha's last orders was to dismantle the stockpile.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		of red mercury bombs and of not the All right, listen, hold on.
		I've got a break here.
		I've got to do coming right up, and we'll bring you back after the break.
		Stay right there.
		I'm Art Bell.
unidentified		I've been drifting on the sea of heartbreak, trying to get myself ashore for so long, for so long.
		Listening to the stranger stories, wondering where it all went wrong for so long.
		For so long.
		Hold on, hold on, hold on to what you got.
		Hold on, hold on to what you got.
		Out on the street I was talking to a man He
		said, so my brother's not a man that I don't understand You shouldn't worry, I said that ain't no crime Cause if you get it wrong, you'll get it right and never die Never die Call Art Bell in the Kingdom of Nye from West of the Rockies at 1-800-618-8255.
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		This is Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell from the Kingdom of Nine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Those are the magic numbers for anything under the sun you want to talk about.
		Friday night, Saturday morning weekend is here kind of open lines program.
		There's more around the corner.
		Don't turn off that radio.
		A couple of interesting comments from the Fast Blast gallery.
		One gentleman saying, I think the caller who's talking about entertainment was essentially trying to say that we are here to entertain the gods.
		Well, if that's true, then the gods be a listen-in tonight, I'm sure, and they're entertained, I'll bet.
		And then Marcus from Porter, Texas says, I bet the show gets real interesting after that mirror call, and I do too.
		I want more on that.
		That was particularly interesting, wasn't it?
		I, number one, would like to hear from this gentleman firsthand.
		Number two, anybody else who has had a strange encounter, strange as it may seem, with a mirror?
		He reflected on the fact that he moved, but his mirror image did not during this conversation he was having with himself.
		Any of the rest of you have anything like that?
		A wildcard line, you are on the air now.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Good morning.
unidentified		How's your back?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's back.
unidentified		Well, we're glad you're back.
		Thank you.
		I'm Daya.
		I'm calling from Toronto.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It was nice.
		It was a short little one.
		You know, it wasn't nice when it was happening, mind you, but it was nice that it was short.
unidentified		Were you lying on the floor with your knees up on a bed or on a chair, something higher?
		Yeah, when that happened.
		That's why I asked.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I can't be vertical at all.
		I can't, as in sitting or standing, you know.
		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah, just killer.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, oh, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anyway.
unidentified		Anyway, okay, I just want to run through a few things.
		I'm psychic.
		I travel.
		I'm psychokinetic.
		I have out of my body movement.
		Hold it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hold it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Psychokinetic means that you can move things with your mind, right?
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Usually without my intention.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Like what?
unidentified		Well, once I was in a pub in London, and there was a glass in front of me with red wine in it, and I was feeling particularly uptight about something, well, angry about something.
		But I wasn't touching the glass, and nobody was touching the glass.
		But my energy was on the glass, and suddenly it just exploded.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're not Carrie, are you?
unidentified		No, I'm Di.
		And there was Diane.
		There was this table next to me, and they went, how did you do that?
		And I don't know.
		And for a year, everything that my now ex-fiancé had given me was breaking.
		I mean, it's a weird kind of thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So that didn't break up your relationship, did it?
unidentified		No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
		That was just a sign from God that I should have been paying attention to, but of course didn't.
		But the other thing, too, is you know those things when you wash your hands, you put your hands under and the water comes on?
		When I'm out of body, but conscious in the present time, I'll put my hand under there and nothing comes out.
		It's like I'm not in my body, but I'm usually above my body.
		And I do travel, and in my dreams, I travel, and I know I travel because my friends who I see in my dreams phone me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But, but, but, during out-of-body travel, if you put your hands, which you can't see, right, I mean, it's like you're in your physical body, right?
		Oh, yeah.
		Except if you put your hands under one of the automatic water things, water travels.
unidentified		No, no, no, no.
		When I do that, I'm in real-time conscious time.
		I'm not traveling.
		I'm just out of body.
		I'm out of body for most of the time because, and I don't know when I go, but I always know when I come back because I feel like I've just landed very quickly in an elevator.
		And then I'm looking at somebody who's talking to me, and I'm thinking, oh my God, they've been talking to me, and I haven't heard a word.
		What time is it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But it's because you're not there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're somewhere else.
unidentified		I'm somewhere else, yeah.
		But in terms of my predictions, they're never wrong.
		We actually spoke, the first time I spoke to you was when the Anthrax thing broke out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, you have predictions that are never wrong.
		Therefore, never wrong.
		Good advertisement.
		All right, so what do you predict?
unidentified		Okay, what I'm predicting is, first of all, I think there's no accident, there's no coincidence that we're finding Atlantis at this time.
unidentified		I think we're being given an example of where we might be if we don't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Underwater?
unidentified		Yeah, over, you know, sunk.
unidentified		Things that destroy civilizations are fear and ego domination.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Maybe they all destroy themselves.
		I mean, that's entirely possible.
		Maybe all civilizations reach a point where they self-destruct.
unidentified		Well, don't you think it's about time we learned from our history and used our enlightenment and the enlightened people come out and the thing is the media is, I'm afraid, it's not showing everything.
		I mean, the Israelis are not letting the journalists in.
		And power.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The media is not enlightened.
unidentified		No, but the media is not allowed to go in with cameras to film what's happening in Geneva.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm not surprised.
		I mean, even our own country.
		No, even our Look, even our country isn't really letting the media go over there and watch the fighting and film the fighting in Afghanistan, right?
unidentified		You can be damn sure the Nazis didn't let anyone go into their concentration camps.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, you know, lately, countries have done that.
		They've decided that allowing cameras into a war theater is not a good idea.
		It inevitably results in really, really bad publicity.
		And so, you know, governments, including ours, have begun to take steps to limit the media's access to pressing national military issues.
		And so you don't see a lot, do you, coming out of Afghanistan?
		You don't see a lot of firefighting and all the rest of it coming out of Afghanistan.
		Nor do you see, actually you see probably more from Israel right now than you're seeing from Afghanistan.
		Has that ever occurred to you east of the Rockies?
		You're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, I'm calling from Kentucky.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Kentucky.
		All the way from Kentucky.
		Welcome.
unidentified		Oh, thank you.
		I just called to find out about your cats, how they do it.
		I remember a long time ago you used to talk about Comet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my wild cat, yes.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		How old is he now?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He's getting better every day.
		And I know I've been saying that for years, but this process, this cat was so wild, ma'am, that it's almost impossible to describe to you how wild this cat was.
		Now, he will come around me, and he'll circle around me and rub up against me, and he'll get up on my knee.
		And that's about five million miles from where he was.
		This cat was so wild, he scratched your eyes out.
		I mean, he was bad.
		He had to live in my bathroom for six months.
unidentified		Wow, I guess it took him a long time to get used to people.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man, I used to go in there.
		I'd put on this big overcoat and gloves, you know, and I'd go in every day.
		I'd devote an hour or two to it, and I'd pet him, and he'd go, he'd groan at me and stuff, and try to get me.
		And this was one really wild cat.
		I mean, this wasn't just sort of feral.
		This was totally gone.
		But now he's back.
unidentified		Yeah, I had the cat for a long time.
		She was 16 when she passed away.
		She died back in September of 2000.
		But she gave me a lot of company over the years, and I just thank God for every day that I had her.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If I ever, thank you, if I ever write another book, believe it or not, I'm going to write a book about, and I'm not saying I'm doing this.
		It's just that if I ever were to write another book, let me put it that way, this is not an announcement that I'm writing another book, but if I did, it would be about the incredible experience of taming this wild animal.
		The stories are incredible.
		Absolutely.
		This is one of the more incredible stories on the face of the globe.
		It's a microcosm of an incredible story, but it is nevertheless incredible.
		So I would write about that and how to do it.
		I know how to tame a wild animal.
		But I got my bruises learning, I'll tell you.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Art.
unidentified		This was Bill calling about the red mercury.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hey, Bill.
		Oh, I'm sorry.
		I was supposed to come right back to you.
		Yes, all right.
unidentified		That's what it happened.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Apologies.
unidentified		No worries.
		Anyways, what it is, basically, is we and the Soviets, up until this stuff came out of South Africa, boosted our nuclear weapons with tritium.
		It's a gaseous isotope of hydrogen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I believe that is correct, yes.
unidentified		Right.
		And for a basis, during the shot, during Operation Greenhouse shot, George, it was about 20 KT device.
		Boosted, it banged out at 65.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		From 20 kilotons to 65 kilotons?
unidentified		Yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		With red mercury?
unidentified		No, that was tritium gas.
unidentified		But here's the catch.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But how does red mercury compare to tritium?
unidentified		Well, it was originally discovered in tailings of a platinum mine.
		A radiological monitor was walking by, and his dose simeter and Geiger went nuts.
		They took it and took it over to the Institute in South Africa, and they found out that this is almost a red clay-type substance, but it is rich in entrained tritium.
		Low maintenance.
		You can put it in with the bimetallic initiator without the reservoir, so you have a compact, lightweight weapon with a bigger yield.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You sound like you could build a bomb.
unidentified		There are people wondering why I haven't.
unidentified		It's one of those notes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, straight out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Could you build an atomic bomb?
unidentified		On my lunch hour, actually.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		Yes, sir.
		But I'm trying to get a hold of Mr. Morton.
		I've been having a devil of a time doing because it sounds like he needs a consultant on these matters.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, he probably needs help right now with his email.
		I mean, when you go on the program, you get millions of emails.
		I exaggerate.
		Thousands.
		I mean, it's tough.
unidentified		But I'm just one of those out of pure altruism.
unidentified		I heard him last night, and sounds like he could use basically a consultant or someone who has knowledge on these things.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you obviously do.
		So all I can say is he's got a website.
		He's got a contact there.
		Email him and send him your info.
		But there's somebody confirming what he said about Red Mercury, essentially confirming that.
		Wow.
		Well, Sean is an interesting character, and so much of what he has predicted has come true.
		That's what keeps him coming back to the program.
		His accuracy rate is very, very, very high indeed.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
		Hello?
		Hello?
		Going once.
		Going twice.
		Hello?
		Yes.
unidentified		Hello, my name is Brian.
unidentified		I'm calling from Seattle, Washington.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Brian, and on a cellular phone at that.
unidentified		Yeah, my apologies.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's all right.
unidentified		I've been blessed with the gift of being able to have time stop for me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		have time stop for you when time stops for Correct.
unidentified		I'm affected by, I guess the best way to describe it would be to have if you were playing a VCR tape and you freeze-framed it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You can do that?
unidentified		And then I have on very rare occasions been able to actually make it happen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But what I'm saying is, when you freeze everything around you, you can then continue to move around and interact if you wanted with the frozen objects?
unidentified		That is correct.
unidentified		At least my perception is that I have videotaped myself during these instances, and of course, there's nothing that can be seen on the videotape itself with the exception of just a couple blurred frames.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What have you done during these periods of time when you've stopped time?
unidentified		Well, I need to reiterate that I don't actually do it.
unidentified		I have been able to do it on a couple occasions.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And on those occasions, sir, what did you do during that period?
unidentified		I'm sorry, I asked your question again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I said, during those instances that you just talked about, what did you do?
unidentified		I was able to, at least in my perception, manipulate objects.
		I was able to, for example, one time I was pouring water, and I was able to splash water on the table.
		And of course, when the episode ended, there was no splash water, though.
		So I'm wondering if any of the listeners have ever experienced anything like this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's quite unnerving.
		It certainly would be.
		Anybody else out there able to stop time, to freeze time?
		There were a whole lot of really cool Twilight Zone episodes about that.
		I don't know if you ever saw any of them, but it was really cool.
		People found or suddenly came upon this ability to freeze everything and everybody.
		And they could literally move around a town, move around a city, move around the world.
		A world in which everybody but themselves was virtually frozen, stopped.
		And of course, when they would reanimate, they wouldn't even know they had been stopped.
		In the meantime, you could move around among everybody else who stopped because you had stopped time.
		Anybody else out there?
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Good morning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, this is James from Grand Rapids, Michigan.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, James, extinguish your radio, please.
unidentified		Okay, I'll also.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		We'll hold for that.
		Very important that you do that right away when you get on the air.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I still hear it.
unidentified		Got it for you.
		Okay.
		All right, sorry about that.
		This is my first time calling, and I really enjoy your show and visit your webpage often.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yep, thank you.
unidentified		And recently down in Roanoke, Virginia, I just actually had to bury my mother, which was pretty tough.
		But I experienced something, and I've been into some quantum physics, astrophysics, and I've read a lot of theories and stuff.
		And I saw witnessed something in the sky, and it was a flash of light.
		And actually, I don't know if this is a coincidence, but I was pretty much giving a prayer to my mother at the same time when I saw this.
		And at first I thought it could have been a plane, a passing plane.
		It reminded me of a flashing light like that.
		But it didn't flash again for a while.
		And then my fiancé appeared with me and saw another flash with me.
		And we stared for hours after that and never witnessed another flash.
		And I'm not really sure.
		Are we able to witness like a quasar or something?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, we might see a quasar.
		We might see an exploding sun.
		You know, who knows?
		But I think really what you're talking about here is that you might have seen a sign from your mother.
		Isn't that what you're talking about?
unidentified		Well, you know, I would love to believe that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there are many millions of people, sir, and this is the truth.
		And I'm one of them, who's experienced a sign from a relative who just passed away.
		Now, millions of people, sir.
		And I know the scientists scoff at this sort of thing, but I don't.
		I'm convinced that a newly departed person can, you know, it's like probably when you go to jail, you get to make one phone call.
		They get to make one sort of subtle, if it can be picked up by the person, subtle or even not so subtle.
		Hey, I'm okay.
		Here's a sign from me.
		I'm okay.
unidentified		And you know, that's great.
		And I would like to believe that my mother was a very religious lady, and she was really in touch with God and full of love.
		And anyone that really came in contact with her was kind of touched, kind of like an angel.
		And I realized that when she passed, and that she was probably about the closest to an angel that I've ever known.
		And I'm not a really highly religious person.
		And it's things like this that really make me stop and wonder.
		And it was just, it was fascinating.
		And I didn't know if maybe there's been any postings that, you know, that someone has witnessed a quasar.
		I'm not even sure if we can witness, could they be witnessed by eyewitnesses?
		You know, I mean, without a telescope.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I would be more inclined, sir, to say consider it to be a sign from your newly departed mother and leave it at that.
		You know, people see all kinds of things in the skies, and you could spend the rest of your life trying to verify what you saw, and you never probably will.
		But millions of people have seen and received signs from just newly departed family members.
		You know, I know I've told the story before, but on the day, the morning following my father's death, same day actually, something really odd happened.
		A little bat landed, a bat landed on our front porch, and there was nothing wrong with the bat.
		He just laid there.
		And, you know, it was a warm day, and my wife and I felt sorry for the bat.
		We couldn't leave it, just decided to sit down on the porch.
		You know, they usually hang from stuff, right, in dark places.
		Well, this bat came down and sat down on my porch, wouldn't leave.
		He was perfectly all right.
		So we took him and put him in our causeway breezeway where it was the sun, you know, he was out of the direct sun.
		And the little guy just stayed there all day long, happy as a clam.
		Nighttime came and he flew away.
		I considered that to be a sign.
		A definite sign.
		Nothing like that ever happened before.
		Millions of people have had those signs.
		It's not unusual.
unidentified		There's something happening here.
		What it is ain't exactly clear.
		Thank you.
		There's a man with a gun over there telling me I got to beware.
		I think it's time we stop.
		Children, watch that sound.
		Everybody look what's going down Music Cause battle lines being wrong.
		Nobody's right.
		Everybody's wrong.
		Love.
		You all have come and true.
		I saw my dream in you for me.
		You were the one, but that was yesterday and yesterday's gone.
		We walked together hand in hand, across miles and miles of golden sand.
		But now it's over and done, cause that was yesterday and yesterday's gone.
		We had such happiness together.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, I noticed, now, of course, a million people are trying to get through, but we haven't had any time travelers yet tonight, and it really would be, as several people indicated earlier.
		In fact, it sure would be an interesting time to hear from time travelers, wouldn't it?
		Because maybe yesterday's gone, and maybe tomorrow's not yet here, but I have this feeling that there are those traveling through time.
		and we're at such a critical juncture in the world right now that if they're really are time travelers it sure would be a great time to hear from them Back into the night we go.
		And east of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Good morning.
unidentified		Hi, I'm Jimmy from Brooklyn.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hey, Jimmy.
unidentified		Hi.
		I listened to your show when I get the chance.
		You mentioned something earlier in the show about people who could predict the future.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		77 WABC, right?
		Right.
		All right.
		Is that you?
unidentified		In a way.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		I predict the future in a way because of knowing the past.
		I'm telling you, we did not win the Cold War the way people tell us.
		We were warned about all of this stuff before the so-called collapse of the Soviet Union by Anatoly Golitsyn, who defected in 1968.
		And he wrote a lot of reports to the CIA, and those reports were then put in a book.
		And the thing is, when a man predicts many years before that the Berlin Wall is going to be taken down, there'll be a new unification of Germany, this is all a trick, I think that's something that should be paid attention to.
		Now, I'm a little nervous.
		I've never been nervous.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know what?
		Generally, I remember all of those predictions and warnings.
		But you know, if you look at Russia today and what's happened, if it was a trick, it's really, really a good trick because Russia is just in a calamity economically.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A total disaster.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it's a trick beyond all reason.
unidentified		12 years ago, I said on the radio, all over the stations I call, I said, the Soviet collapse is fake.
		Under the guise of collapse, they arm Iran, Iraq, Syria, Libya with chemical, biological, nuclear weapons.
		When they get caught, they'll say, that's proof we collapsed.
		We no longer control our loose nukes.
		In other words, they negate the whole mutual assured destruction doctrine because they'll potentially be able to bomb us, let's say, from Iran, Iraq.
		We wipe Iran, Iraq off the map, the Soviets will lose nothing.
		They also had plans in 86.
		I have here their own document, Information Bulletin.
		This is their own meeting in 1986.
		This was their plan up to the year 2000.
		In the section where they talk about economics, they talk about radical modernization of the fuel and energy complex is the keynote of the energy program.
		And it goes on and talks more.
		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Their energy program, sir, is a total disaster.
		They have to.
		Wait a minute.
		They have oil in the ground, and they have no facilities, no companies that will come and take it out of the ground.
		They're looking to the West to come and take out the oil.
unidentified		Exactly.
		Now, they said this in 1986.
		They helped create a problem with the Muslim terrorists who they've been working with for decades.
		Now, because we have a problem potentially with the Middle East oil, we are going to develop Russian oil exactly as they said they want to do in 1986.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure, we are.
		I just, you know, okay, well, I'm kind of going along with a lot of what you're saying.
		But if it's a trick, then I think they tricked themselves because they have fallen apart.
		I mean, if you doubt that for one second, go and visit Russia.
		There are many who long there for the old ways, you know, the return of communism and the free lunch and all the rest of it.
		Even if it was a very mediocre lunch, they long for that.
		But I'm telling you, if it's a trick, then the joke's on them because that country has collapsed.
		So I know what was said and forecast back then, and you can never let your guard down entirely, but I don't know.
		If you look at the reality over there, it really is like if there's a joke, it's on them.
		Once to the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		Yeah, hi, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		How are you doing?
		This is Jack from the Oregon coast.
		You've heard me before.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I suppose I have, Jack.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What's up?
unidentified		Okay, I was going to just, I want to talk a little bit about mirrors, but before that, you were wanting to know about stopping time.
		You were thinking of a sci-fi program, and these futuristic folks had what they called a timeline generator.
		And what they did is they could speed up their time.
		And so it looked like, if you looked at, if you remember, it was a series program, what happened is everybody else seemed to be standing still.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That would be the effect, actually, yes.
unidentified		Yeah, that was what happened.
		So this one caller of yours, he wasn't stopping time.
		What he was doing, he was moving ahead in time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, maybe his metabolic rate really was.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, what do you know about mirrors?
unidentified		Okay, well, I did in metaphysics probably for about 56, well, now 56, 56, I guess.
unidentified		But anyway, what I will discuss with you is the lady of the house, myself, we moved into this house, purchased this house in about 10 years ago, 1992.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And there was some old folks who had owned it.
		And I'm saying old, well, I'm old.
		But they were, I think he was in his 80s.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, it's all relative.
unidentified		Yeah, anyway.
		And he didn't want to leave the house.
		What had happened is they had a tax problem.
		Believe it or not, they were up there about five years in arrears.
		And it's a real kind county because three years is usually max.
		So anyway, they finally got out of it because they had the house was paid for.
		So anyway, this old man used to be down where I'm living.
		I live in the lower area.
		And the thing is, is he used to sit down here with his pussycat, have the drapes and all the nice windows down here, and look out there.
		And he just loved this place.
		And this is the place he figured he would retire as it was if financially he couldn't do it.
		Yeah, he had to sell it.
		Okay.
		So anyway, the lady of the house, she had her two children living here for a good number of years.
		And one day, the younger of the two, he was walking down the hallway, upstairs, and he saw this old man walking down, you know, down the hallway.
		Freaked the kid out, right?
		He was only about 12 then.
		And he told his mom, and his mom, of course, told me, and I says, well, doesn't this sound like the previous owner of this house?
		I said, I'll tell you what, I want you to do.
		I want you to call and see if this man had died.
		As it was, he had not died.
		Okay?
		He loved this house so much that the essence of him, some of it stayed behind.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, what you're talking about is a living ghost, and there is increasing evidence of living ghosts, of people who have become so attached to a physical place during their lifetime, even if it still is going on, that their essence remains in that house in a way that we might perceive as a ghost or an entity, even though they believe it.
		Now, that throws kind of a big kink in a lot of the traditional thoughts about ghosts and about life and death and the nature of life and consciousness itself.
		You know, this throws a whole lot of kinks into it.
		Interesting.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		This is Jimmy from Benton, Arkansas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Listening to you on K-A-R-N out of Little Rock.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		In the year of 1988, I was watching TV and reading a model airplane magazine and not entertaining any other thoughts.
unidentified		A voice spoke to me, not from in my living room, but within myself, I would say.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In your head.
unidentified		In my head.
unidentified		And it wasn't my voice, and it wasn't a voice that I'd ever heard before.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What did it say?
unidentified		Well, the voice spoke to me and in clear English just said, a death angel is going to visit you.
		And of course, a cold chill went down my spine and I said, well, not me, Lord, because you told me you'd give me a long life if I thought you.
		And that's what I had been doing for a long time.
		Of course, it unnerved me, and I prayed about it and went on about my business and kind of thought, you know, kind of forgot about it.
		Then a week later, I was at my office and doing calculations.
		I'm an industrial designer and just drawing and so forth and just really in my work.
		And without notice, the same voice spoke the same words.
		And of course, I had the same reactions.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
		Well, now the second time, that'd be even, I mean, you could always put the first time off to a bit of undigested something or another, right?
		But the second time around.
unidentified		Or anything, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Second time around, that's really bad.
unidentified		Then I thought, well, I need to go tell my brother, but I didn't because I thought he'd think that I was a nut.
		But, well, I just, you know, I went through the same song and danced with it, I prayed about it, and then forgot about it.
		And the following weekend, I was to see a friend off to Canada by going to the airport with him.
		And that particular weekend on a Saturday, I normally get up early and go about my business like if it was a normal workday.
		And that particular day I actually got up.
		It was rainy outside and misty, and I kept my drapes closed, and I actually got out of bed and just still had my skitties on.
		Sounds like this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's just the right time and kind of weather for a death angel.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
		And I kept on putting it off, and I thought, well, I better get ready.
		And I got up and got ready, and I missed my friend.
		I missed him, and his son said, well, Jimmy, you can catch him if you leave right away.
		And I thought, well, no, I don't want to search for him in airports.
		So I thought, well, rather than zooming back home to my house on the freeway, I thought I would take just the back roads to my house.
		I stopped and got myself something to eat.
		And on the way, I asked the Lord to bless my food and all that sort of thing.
		And had my seatbelts on.
		And the speed limit on this little country road that I was on was 35.
		And as I come around a slow curve to the left, I saw a car coming at me at a great rate of speed that was in my lane.
		And there's no way that I could prevent hitting, hit on.
		It was so fast, we just hit.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You knew you were dead?
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
		Well, actually, my thought was, well, you know, I'm going into eternity was my thought.
		And that's as fast as I could think anything.
		I couldn't even say, well, Lord, you know, protect me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I hear you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not enough time for any of that.
unidentified		No, and, well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of course, as religious as you are, you probably said something like, oh, darn.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Everybody else, they said others.
unidentified		As a matter of fact, I didn't say anything.
		It was just a thought.
		I just thought I was going to eternity.
		And boy, we hit.
		I found out later, well, my speed limit was 35.
		And the lady is a young lady, she was late for work, and they said that she had passed a string of cars in a straightaway and came into the corner.
		And it had been impossible for anyone to have made the corner because it's a flat curve, slow flat curve.
		And we hit, and our combined speed was well over 100 miles per hour.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let me guess.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You went right through her, or she went right through you.
unidentified		Well, pretty much.
unidentified		It was probably about as fast as I'd ever stopped.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, death angels do seem to act in that way.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know, maybe death angel is not the right word for what you experienced.
unidentified		Well, it was the right word because that was what was spoken to me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's interesting.
unidentified		She died.
		She died from the impact.
		She had her seatbelts on, but nonetheless, her head hit the window frame, and she died from a concussion.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But nothing happened to you?
unidentified		Nothing happened to me.
		I was laying in the hospital a day or so after the fact.
		Of course, it yanked me up a little bit.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so there was an actual physical collision then.
		Oh, yeah.
		I've had so many stories of people going through.
unidentified		Oh, really?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified		Oh, yeah, we hit, and there's definitely a physical accident in that.
		I got you.
		And I was laying in the hospital several days later just thinking about all this.
		And then it just, well, it was like, well, it just either just come to me or the Lord just impressed on my brain that, well, a death angel did visit me.
		And when a visitor comes to visit you, a visitor always leaves.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, I've got it, sir.
		Thank you.
		That's interesting.
		So he was notified that there was going to be an event, and a death angel was going to visit.
		And I guess the word intervene wasn't used, but obviously that's what occurred.
		Isn't that interesting?
		In other words, an event, why would you be notified about an event that was going to occur to you of that magnitude ahead of time?
		Wildcard line, you're all on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I just had a quick question for you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		I guess we'd be close to regarding shout-out people, I guess.
		Every once in a while I wake up in the middle of the night and I have an incredible fear.
		Not of anything in particular, but I'm just scared of my mind, I guess you could say.
		And only for a couple of seconds.
		And my body seems to go stiff.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Vibrate very quickly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		And I was wondering if you had heard anything about shadow people maybe doing that to people when they're asleep and then waking them up or something like that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, certainly I'm very aware of the state of you get paralyzed.
		There's a buzzing sound and you feel your body is essentially paralyzed and you cannot move and it's terrifying.
		And then you can either mentally end it quickly yourself if you learn to do that or if it progresses and you go with it and sort of let it go, I am told you have an out-of-body experience.
		Now how that relates to shadow people, I don't have any idea.
		It may be a time that shadow people are very interested in that particular little strange twilight time you get in.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Yes, this is probably Mansfield, Ohio, the MAN.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Probably back in the 70s, me and probably about seven, eight of my buddies, we was out fishing out here near a lake that's around here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		And we seen this great big, huge glowing ball.
unidentified		It was probably 60, 70 feet in diameter.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That is big.
unidentified		Probably two, three, maybe 500 feet up in the air.
		Yes, sir.
		It was pretty big.
		And we sat there and watched it.
		We watched it probably for about 45 minutes.
		And we was going to call the authorities and stuff, but we didn't.
		We thought, it was kind of late at night.
		At the time we do, it'd probably be zip it gone or something.
		And so we sat there and watched it and talked about it and stuff like that and just kind of paid attention to it until we couldn't see it no more.
		Gradually it was moving real slow for five, ten miles an hour.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So what do you think you saw?
unidentified		It was a big luminous ball.
		Just you couldn't see into it, but it didn't set no light.
		The moon wasn't out.
		Had a reflection on the water.
		We just talked about it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You could see its reflection on the water.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That is interesting.
unidentified		It's like a big ball.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, all I can tell you is zillions of people have seen these glowing balls.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sometimes they see things or even entities or creatures within these balls, sometimes climbing out of them, sir.
unidentified		Yeah, and, well, a couple years ago, they had a UFO thing around here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, we're going to have to hold it to your one story.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I very much appreciate it, but we're right at the bottom of the hour.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Balls o light.
		Lots of them out there.
		And who knows what comes from them and what they want.
		And or what they would like or what they seek.
		This song says it well.
unidentified		Speak to the light of the end.
		And tell the world.
		Everybody is looking for something Some of them want to use you Some of them want to get you Some of them
		want to get you Some of them want to get
		you
		Light from the neons turned the dark to fake We were too hot to think of sleeping We had to get out before the magic got away We were born over the night Playing in the shadows I'm
		turned you and I To the morning light Call our bell in the kingdom of my from west of the rockies at 1-800-618-8255.
		East of the Rockies, 1-800-825-5033.
		First-time callers may recharge at 1-775-727-1222.
		And the wildcard line is open at 1-775-727-1295.
		To recharge on the Toll-Free International line, call your AT ⁇ T operator and have them dial 800-893-0903.
		This is Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell from the Kingdom of Night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Running with the Night.
		Playing with the Shadows.
		That's what we do here every night.
		Good morning.
		I'm Art Bell.
		This is Coast to Coast A.M., deeply into open lines.
		Don't move.
		All right, let's do a little more running with the night, shall we?
		On the wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
		Yes, Art.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		Hi, I'm calling from Indianapolis, and I don't know if any of your viewers out there might have heard about the, they're calling it in the local papers the Kokomo Hum.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes, we've all heard, I think most of us have, about the Kokomo Hum, as well as, of course, the one down in New Mexico.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Okay, Art, the story I'm going to tell you, and first off, let me say that before this happened to me, I had no belief in any unusual, paranormal.
unidentified		I always consider myself a pretty straight-thinking guy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Fine, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We always welcome new members here.
unidentified		Okay, so let me tell you what happened.
		I suppose this was about a year and a half ago.
		It was the middle of summer.
		It was like Tuesday morning, like 2 in the morning.
		Me and two of my friends had just got off work.
		We work nights.
		And a lot of times, we would just get off work and sit on the front porch and talk, whatever, getting off work.
		Well, one night, I noticed, it seemed like a low-flying helicopter.
		Let me refer to it.
		It looked like a helicopter, but it didn't make any sound.
		It was like silent.
		But it looked like a helicopter.
		And, you know, one of my friends was like, oh, you know, that's really weird.
		It's kind of flying low.
		And, you know, this is over a residential neighborhood.
		All of a sudden, it's hard to explain.
		I felt like my whole body was being scanned.
		I guess that's the best way to put it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Was it like a vibration?
unidentified		Yes, yes, a vibration.
		It felt like my entire bones were vibrating.
		It was very painful.
		It made me fall to my knees.
		And I was like, ah, what is that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And almost as soon as I did that, I look over.
		My two friends experiencing the same thing.
		They're like, oh, man, it's really weird.
		What is that?
		And it took us about maybe two, three minutes.
		We kind of got our composure.
		And we went back to the porch.
		We were just sitting down and we're like, ah, it's really weird.
		Was that coming from that helicopter or what caused that, right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Here's where it gets weird, Art.
		Now, five minutes later, first we heard the sound of a woman screaming.
		I mean, and this was not just like a help-me scream.
		This was like blood-curdling murder, like, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Like you were being stabbed to death.
unidentified		Yes, exactly.
		Back of your hairs and the back of your neck standing up.
		We then heard gunshots.
		We heard dogs barking.
		We heard sirens.
		We heard all this loud, I mean, loud and clear, but we saw nothing.
		I mean, there was nothing around, obviously.
		It's a residential neighborhood because, you know, we would have seen anything.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right, of course.
unidentified		It all sounded like it was, like, so close.
		The next day, none of the neighbors reported hearing any of this.
		And, I mean, this is so loud.
		You know, There's obviously no way anyone could have missed it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I got you.
unidentified		I mean, you know, to this day, I can't explain it.
		But ever since that night, or ever since that night, I've been experiencing what I guess you would call deja vu.
		But it's a little bit different than deja vu.
		It's like I'll be somewhere and something will happen.
		And I'll be like, oh, I've seen this before.
		It's almost like, you know, I guess you could do deja vu.
		I guess that's the best way to put it.
		It's just more pronounced.
		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, I'll tell you what I think.
		Number one, you should, of course, look into the history of the house where you were to see if there was some incredible, awful thing that happened nearby.
		Number two, you could have experienced some sort of time slip.
		They do occur.
		And number three, and this is one that I want you to all think about a little bit.
		You're going to be hearing a lot about this from me in the near future.
		There are many people out there, and I've discussed this on my show many times previously, who have memories of things and history and major events in the world that are simply not as we know them to be now.
		Now, what do I mean by that?
		Well, for example, there are people who remember that Nelson Mandela died in jail, that he never, you know, was freed and then went on to become the president of South Africa.
		There are many other similar events.
		That's a very common one, though.
		And the explanation for these would potentially be that a different timeline was created.
		That in one universe, in fact, Nelson Mandela never did make it out of jail.
		That he died while in incarceration.
		However, in a timeline which was changed by somebody or some bodies, Nelson Mandela lived, was released, went on to lead South Africa from apartheid, and changed everything.
		So there are many of us who believe that, as Dr. Michio Kaku has suggested, when time is tampered with, we don't exactly know it because essentially a new universe that follows a new timeline is suddenly created, preventing any of the paradoxes, the classic paradoxes that people talk about with respect to time change.
		The problem is that a lot of people out there have these vague memories of the way it was rather than the way it is.
		This is a particularly interesting area to explore as we consider the possibilities of time travel.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
		This is Rebecca from the Midwest.
		What's going on?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you at the moment.
unidentified		Hey, Walton, let me take the spotlight and talk to you.
unidentified		I have been listening to your show Five Nights a week for like the last two months.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you reasonably sane and sound after this?
unidentified		I am, and that is what I'm calling to talk to you about.
		I totally, I understand a lot of what's discussed, some of the things that are out of the ordinary, yet possible.
		However, there are a lot of people I know that call in with these humongous fabrications.
		And, well, you know, I don't want to pass judgment, but, like, the tunnel from 51 area to...
		area 51 to the middle of nowhere into the middle of the oceans both the Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean the world under the ground?
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		Like, okay, seriously.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You cannot know.
		Now, we do know there are underground levels to Area 51.
		That's truth.
unidentified		Okay, like I said, I don't want to pass judgment.
		Some of those things, like the Moke Curtain kids all being there.
		I just, what is your, like, what do you think about this?
		What do you think about some of these stories that come?
		People call in and they come together.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm like you.
		I mean, I'm like you.
		Some of them, you have to separate the wheat and the chaff.
		And I'm not sure exactly how you do that.
unidentified		Some of you see some of that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But there's some of what you consider to be chaff, others may consider wheat.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know what I mean?
unidentified		Like one man's trash is another man's treasure.
		Yeah, something like that.
		I just, I can't help but I will say that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there are other things.
		You know, every other show in the world talks about pretty much the same stuff, right?
		But that is not the totality of our world.
		Our world is made up of a lot of things we don't understand.
		So we deserve at least one program, in my opinion, like this, that centers on things that we do not fully understand.
unidentified		Okay, well, let me ask you this.
		You guys, there's, okay, it's spoken of a lot as far as the unknown in spirits and all of that jazz is spoken of a lot.
		Now, do you believe that if these people who are so convinced that these off-the-wall things are happening to them, that maybe they are welcoming an unwanted spirit?
		Yeah, pretty much.
		Like an unwanted spirit.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, of course.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, just the way we imagine that Ouija boards and tampering with things that are invitations.
unidentified		Exactly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
unidentified		I speak, I work with a gentleman who I, really very knowledgeable man.
		He's really cool.
		And we were speaking of, I always use the phrase, I'm open-minded, I'm open-minded.
		And he told me, You know, not to say that because when you're open, anything can come in.
		I know this sounds off the ball.
		Like I said, I'm completely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, it doesn't.
unidentified		He told me that.
		And ever since he's made that comment to me, I think about these stories because I listen to you eight hours a night or however long you're on, you know?
		Yeah, and I just think to myself, like, some of these people, maybe they're reaching out.
		Maybe they desperately need something to believe in.
		And I wonder.
		I just wonder, you know, I question everything, I guess.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's a good thing to do.
		But, you know, you really have to imagine that the world is wider than the world that is given to you by the mainstream media in America.
		If all you do is watch the nightly news, and there's nothing wrong with it, you know, they do a pretty good presentation of the physical, whatever is going on in the world that day.
		Fairly good, anyway.
		There is more to the world than that.
		There is more to us as mankind than is reported on the evening news.
		And just because something is outside your frame of reference, be careful about calling it chaff when it might turn out to be wheat.
		That would be my only caution.
		Welcome to the Rockies.
		You're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		Hi.
		Pleasure to meet you, Mr. Bell.
		I've been an avid listener of you for over the years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		I'm in North Hollywood, California.
		Okay.
		Sorry to get in on the call of the person before me, but being that I've been skeptical about things, the only thing that I recall is that the other caller about the mirror.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, the mirror.
unidentified		Yes.
		There was something that happened that, like, I don't have an explanation for it, but I have two mirrors.
		One that faces on the east wall.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		and I have another one that faces on the west.
		The one that...
		Yes, in the living room.
		The one that faces on the west was left here by the previous owner.
		I just cleaned it up and decided to keep it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		Because it's a nice, heavyweight mirror that you hardly find in antique stores.
		So I kept it and polished it.
		It's a really nice mirror.
		So one night I was here by myself getting ready for the movers to come in that night because basically the whole house was empty.
		It's a pretty old house here in North Hollywood.
		And I was cleaning the mirror that faces on the east.
		And I was looking into the mirror that faces me on the west.
		And I saw my reflection.
		And I was wiping the mirror, I could see where the reflection gets smaller and smaller.
		Because you're looking into a mirror, and then in that reflection, you see another reflection of a mirror that goes smaller and smaller.
		It was really weird that the activity, as it got smaller, didn't match what I was doing.
		My body movements weren't in conjunction with what I was doing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I hear you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You weren't then so shocked to hear what that man said, were you?
unidentified		No, because as I was cleaning the mirror and I was using my hand to wipe the mirror clean, I was noticing that my movements...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Weren't matching up.
		I think here we go again.
		We're stumbling right into a gigantic area.
		Obviously, a lot of people have had this experience.
		What do you think it means?
unidentified		Well, I got chills.
		It reminded me like if I was in some type of time warp or some type of Twilight Zone episode because I was starting to think, wait a minute, what's happening?
		And I kind of like...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm an electronics kind of person, sir.
		And there's a real magic about feedback.
		Feedback is a really interesting thing to study, electronic feedback or the kind of feedback you get from particularly multiple mirror reflections.
		It's a feedback loop, and they're really fascinating things to study.
		And that's what you were doing.
unidentified		You were sitting there receiving feedback.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So we need to look into this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, anything else?
unidentified		Well, one other time when I was here by myself, I sometimes like to play music.
		I'm an avid music listener.
		I like the music you play on your show.
		And I was listening to Dusty Springfield after she passed away.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And I liked a lot of her songs, and I was singing along to the songs.
unidentified		And as I looked into the mirror, for a moment there, I saw images of people walking in and out of rooms.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In and out of rooms?
unidentified		Going from my living room into the kitchen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And I was thinking, I don't know how that happened.
unidentified		For a split second, it looked like I was in the presence of other people in my home, but I was here by myself.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you were probably looking at another time.
unidentified		It was really weird because I had all the lights turned off.
unidentified		I used to like to listen to music, and sometimes if I'm into the song, I'll start singing along with it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		Because I think my voice is of a high caliber that I can sing pretty.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, if you turn the music up, your voice reaches a higher caliber the more you turn up the stereo.
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		I had it out loud, and I had the candles on, and it was dark, and I was kind of like in memory of Dusty Spring because she had passed away.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And I started to, I didn't want to look at the mirror, but when I glanced over it, and I noticed there was like a woman walking from my living room into the kitchen, and then I saw a man, like an elderly man, going from my bedroom, because it's all facing down the hallway, into like coming toward the living room.
		Once I saw that, I didn't want to see it, and it just split.
		For a couple seconds, it was there, and then it was gone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, if I were you, I would, I don't know if I would, but I'd be tempted to try the experiment again, since you obviously still have the mirrors.
		We've obviously stumbled into something, and if you would like to fire off an email to me on the subject of mirrors, I would be very interested.
		As I said, the subject of feedback, feedback loops, oscillations, it's all really, really interesting, and it's all intertwined with these mirror experiences that people are having.
		Mirrors have been a source of mystic wonderment ever since we've had them, and there's a reason for that.
		It's just, it's not for nothing.
		Mirrors are producing a kind of a feedback that can have effects that I think cross time every now and then.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, this is Debbie from Kingston, Washington.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, hello, Debbie.
unidentified		Hello.
		I wanted to talk about mirrors, too.
		The young man had some really interesting things.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I knew it.
		Here we go.
		Okay, sure.
unidentified		He had some really interesting things to say.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, go right ahead.
unidentified		what I have found out about doing the mirrors I do when I look in a mirror to see past lives and it's you Yes, and the first time it happened, of course, it scared me to death.
		But you put a light off to the side and just look just past your eyes, and you will get visions of past lives.
		And it's very interesting.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It has, I keep saying it, it has something to do with the feedback that goes on with the mirror image.
unidentified		Definitely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And if there are two mirrors, it may be multiplied.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm telling you, there's something to this.
unidentified		Yes, I'd like to try the two mirrors.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Or actually, I guess you're telling me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I have never experienced it, but it's tempting to try now.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		But it'll scare you the first time when your face shifts to a totally different person.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That would be hard to get through without screaming and running.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		Well, I think that's about what I did the first time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But you've actually, oh, you did scream and run.
unidentified		Well, not scream.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, anyway.
unidentified		The minute it scares you, though, you lose it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You were looking at your own face, which then morphed into a completely different face?
unidentified		Yes.
		The first one was I looked Asian with a mustache, a man.
		Wow.
		And yeah, I was very interested.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Gee, you have gone through some changes.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		Many changes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And why do you necessarily interpret this as past lives?
unidentified		Because I have been working with past lives.
		I've done a couple of regressions in hypnosis.
		And I work with energy.
		And we do a lot of past life work because past lives do sometimes affect our lives in this life.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, do you know, I hate to even mention this to you.
		There are people who are doing work with mirrors, hard scientific work, in terms of contacting the dead.
		So I'm not saying that it was not past lives that you were seeing, but it may be that your mindset, because you were working in that area, naturally made your brain say to yourself, hey, past lives.
		But maybe that wasn't it.
unidentified		Well, maybe, but I like to think that that's what I'm working on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		Okay, well, I understand.
		Thank you.
		Listen, I'm out of time.
		Show is over.
		We're just way out of time, so say goodnight to everybody.
unidentified		Good night, everyone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's the way to do it.
		Good night.
		We're going to pick up on this topic, obviously.
		We've just rolled into something else.
		Anybody else with mirror stories, feedback loops, powerful stuff, folks?
		I'm Art Bell from the High Deserts.

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