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April 12, 2002 - Art Bell
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From the high desert and the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening.
Good evening, good morning, good afternoon.
From the beautiful little town of Grump, Nevada to the world, this is Coast to Coast AM.
Friday night, Saturday morning style.
And yes, it's going to be open lines tonight.
And before we get to the really scary news, you know, the world news, I thought I would roll over with you a few of the suggestions that I have received, just a little handful here, since last night.
And actually, what I think I will do is open all of my lines to any of the following.
I used to try to restrict one line, you know, but I found out that doesn't work.
If something takes off and people want to call about it, they're going to do it on any line at all, and I can't stop that.
Nothing I can do about it.
All lines.
So here's what I get, I ask.
Uh, Ramona, earlier today, my wife came to me and said, here's a good one.
Uh, somebody's suggesting the all dead line.
Those who are dead and damned well intend to stay that way.
So, uh, I guess we could have an all dead line.
But, you know, thinking it really through, why, if they're really dead and intend to stay that way, then they're probably not gonna Reach out for me to try to let us all know that they're dead and happy about it and want to stay there.
Nevertheless, there are any.
Now, let's see.
Hello, Art.
I was thinking of that elevator to space story that you talked about the other night.
Actually, it's on the website.
Imagine that, an elevator to space.
And anyway, he goes on.
Maybe some of your audience have crazy inventions of their own they want to share with the rest of the world.
I can nearly already hear you saying on the invention line you're on the air.
Anybody with an invention tonight?
An inventor's line, that's a good idea.
And then here's one saying, people who have microchips behind their ear.
I found mine last night!
It's a singular wireless customer who sent that.
Unnamed, otherwise.
And then, of course, this would go along with it.
Art, how about...
An alien implant victim hotline.
So, sure, I will absolutely talk to anybody out there who has an alien implant or any other implant.
By the way, the doctor I did two interviews with in Great Britain is now in Arizona.
I understand.
Or from Jim in St.
Louis, Art, I think we ought to do the Area 51 line for Friday's program.
You know, it's been way too long since we heard from the non-existent base just over the hill from you.
Oh, Area 51 callers are always welcome, of course.
Many of them live right here in my little town.
But I think the winner From my point of view, and I could be wrong about this, but I think the winner is sort of a combination of the next two from Jace Highart.
Given the recent and sudden increase in people having dreams slash feelings about some undefined major impending event, I think it might be rather interesting to dedicate a line tonight to people visiting from the future.
Perhaps they can tell us what's a common I was thinking of suggesting a line dedicated to shadow people, but I understand the Shadow Phone Company provides really shoddy service.
Looking forward to open lines, Jesse.
Or this, which kind of goes along with it, right, Art?
With everything seemingly going to hell in a handbasket in the world right now, how about opening up a line to the following categories?
A, any time travelers, Who have information about the outcome of the world based on current events.
You know, the Middle East, Afghanistan, and so forth.
Weather changes, earthquakes, melting ice caps, and what have you.
Any extraterrestrials who are here for the purpose of aiding and assisting during this time of change on Earth, what can they tell us about the present course we're on and the outcome?
Thought these two things would be very appropriate and timely.
That's Carol in Mesa, Arizona, listening to KFYI.
So, let me put these back together.
Anybody with information for me in any of those categories is going to be welcome to call tonight on any line, any line which you can make it through on now.
The really scary news.
I said I thought it was a poor idea for Secretary Powell to go to the Middle East right now.
And this day's events would seem to verify that.
He's already called off his Saturday meeting with Arafat after yet another suicide bomber, literally right before his eyes.
The meeting, they say, might be rescheduled for Sunday.
Powell expects a clear denunciation of terrorism.
uh... and of the new bombing uh... meanwhile a pal failed to persuade israeli prime minister ariel sharon provide a timetable for withdrawing israeli troops from palestine cities and towns well huh what a surprise huh you almost have to wait until the fighting ceases Or the parties cease the fight before you go.
I suppose power is to be commended for trying, but it was doomed to failure and sometimes something doomed to failure is better put off until it's a brighter day, you know, for whatever they're going to try.
In Venezuela, during the program last night, the government was overthrown.
That was some breaking news we had, along with yet another big earthquake, 5-8, 5-6, 5-8 in Kabul, near Kabul, Afghanistan.
Indeed, the Venezuelan government has been changed overnight.
A Venezuelan businessperson, Pedro Carmona, was sworn in Friday to replace former leftist President Hugo Chavez, whose combative rule was ended by army commanders after a rather bloody repression of a huge street protest, but Carmona's appointment was immediately challenged by Venezuela's Attorney General as unconstitutional.
In fact, several other Latin American nations, including Argentina, Paraguay, condemned Chávez's ouster.
Gamona said that he would hold legislative and presidential elections within a year.
That's what they always promise when they get in.
You know, when the military guys take over and you get your new whoever it's going to be, presumably the military having a big part in the decision of who it's going to be, and they always say, well, we'll have elections within a year.
Usually they don't.
Military courts now could sentence some criminals to life in prison without parole and in fact forbid witnesses from talking to reporters under changes to the manual for courts martial issued by the White House on Friday.
Wow!
The changes also spell out for the first time rules for prosecuting military members for adultery Hmm.
So they're downgrading it.
In a way, the rules say the adultery must either damage military order and discipline or hurt the military's reputation.
Well, hmm.
Damage their reputation.
So, in other words, like, if it gets into the papers, you're screwed, right?
That's what it sounds like.
If you're fooling around, it doesn't get out, or we keep it in-house as it were.
Maybe it won't be a lot, but if it gets into the papers and it's a big deal, then you're, you know, you're out of here.
I got a very, very interesting email from a young gal named Lisa, and I won't give her last name because I want to pursue her getting her on the air.
She's been making inquiries into chemtrails, and as she says, yesterday I received a phone call from an FAA representative concerning a previous inquiry made by me regarding the incessant flyovers of jets above my home, spraying chemicals in the skies in my city every day.
This female representative was very rude and hostile to me, and basically snarled in response to my questions.
I was calling to express my concern about the chemtrail activity, which, by the way, has been spoken about by air traffic controllers at major airports all across the U.S., and this FAA representative told me, in capitals, told me this.
She said, quote, Chemtrails are a military operation.
Ask the military about that, end quote.
I tried to get her to address my concerns regarding the weird flight patterns that I'm seeing and photographing above my home, but she was increasingly rude and unpleasant, so I asked for her name or her supervisor's name and contact info.
She promptly hung up on me.
So, that's Lisa in State College, Pennsylvania.
Lisa, if you want to get hold of me with your phone number, I'd kind of like to get that on record by getting it on the air, and you can tell us the rest.
Well, guess what, folks?
We've got a brand new underwater city.
Yet another underwater city.
Any ideas where this is off the coast of India?
How about that?
Divers at site could only explore part of the site of an ancient underwater city that's been discovered off the coast of southeastern India.
Divers from India and England made the discovery based on the statements of local fishermen and the old Indian legend of the seven pagodas.
The ruins, which are off the coast of a town I can't pronounce, M-A-H-A-B-A-L-I-P-U-R-A-M, cover many square miles and they seem to prove that a major city once stood there.
A further expedition to the region is now being arranged, which will take place at the beginning of 2003.
Discovery made on April 1st by a joint team of divers from the Indian National Institute of Oceanography and the Scientific Exploration Base in Dorset.
Expedition leader said our divers were presented with a series of structures that clearly showed man-made attributes.
Bear in mind the date of discovery of this.
Well, we've had a... I guess I'd better do a break and come back and do the rest of this.
stay right where you are.
Okay, onward.
We were talking about the seasons, you know, the weather change last night, and this is typical of what I've been getting.
First time emailing you, and I thought I'd tell you about the climate in Minnesota here.
If there was one thing that I would believe about last night's show, it's a shortening of fall and spring.
We started off the year with next to no snow, which is in itself amazing for Minnesota.
We usually have had blizzards by October.
It wasn't fall at all either.
Temperatures were very high.
Fall just didn't happen.
It snowed a couple days before Christmas, and winter happened as usual.
It looked like winter had ended at a normal time until it snowed 9 inches in 24 hours at the beginning of April.
Truly amazing thing about this, though, was that, for example, today, I couldn't even wear a coat.
I was getting that kind of heat buildup in my car, the kind I usually only have in the summer here.
In fact, I drove all the way home with my window down.
So a lot of people are saying that.
And then I've got this complaint from a gas station attendant.
You're going to like this.
Aren't I work at an interstate exit gas station with high prices?
Yeah, he's right.
You know, those ones that are right at the very, you know, the very first one you can hit when you're coming off an interstate.
You know, they always know, hey, we're first, and they're gonna grab us.
The price bedeviled, right?
Anyway, let me start again.
I work at an interstate gas station with high prices.
Every so often, a customer will get real angry and threaten to call the gasoline police.
Are these people bleeding through from a parallel universe, Art?
You really believe that the government controls the oil companies?
When I tell them the oil companies control the government, they get really angry.
These people are Americans!
They also get angry if I laugh at them, or question their sanity, and or their emotional stability.
In fact, they seem to be normal, angry Americans, except for their belief in the gasoline police.
Ha ha ha ha ha!
The gasoline police.
I have word that, according to one of my emailers who saw Ripley's Believe It or Not, there are now, I'm told, two men who apparently took off in lawn chairs, perhaps inspired by what they heard on the show, who knows, in balloons and set a new record in lawn chairs of 18,000 feet.
They landed safely.
So, I don't know anything about this other than this report.
Two more men in lawn chair, with lawn chair rides.
Hmm.
Interesting.
A French court convicted a mother of two of premeditated armed violence after she tried out her new tear gas canister on an innocent shopper just to see if it works, said police on Friday.
Disguised in dark glasses and a hat, the unnamed 35-year-old sprayed a woman shopper who'd just returned to her car in a supermarket A car parking lot.
Unimpressed by the defendant's plea that she'd merely wanted to try out the device, the court in the northeast town of Severn gave her a four-month suspended sentence.
Please note that during questioning, the woman said she was disappointed with her purchase because the person she had sprayed had been able to thrash about and scare her by shouting at her.
She wanted this person disabled entirely.
And by the way, under the category of disabled entirely.
This story I am going to have to follow up by getting the man on the air.
I would like to talk to this man.
The headline is, Man Shoots Off Brain Tumor.
The sub-headline is, Amazingly, the act to end one's life ultimately saved it.
Do not try this at home, folks.
Steve Huey, who is suffering from an inoperable and fatal brain tumor, Doctors had given him only two months to live, so Huey decided to end it all rather than face the pain.
He wrote a suicide note, placed the gun to his head, and shot.
Later, friends found him on the floor in a pool of blood.
They called the ambulance, and within hours, Huey was up and walking around!
His sense of humor was amazing, but even more amazing, his luck, said the doctor.
The chances of him shooting out his brain tumor are 254 million to one.
The bullet missed all of the vital parts of the brain and only shot out the tumor.
And they're serious about shooting it out.
They've got it!
Friends of the family have urged Huey to put his luck to good use and buy lots of lottery tickets.
A close friend said, quote, I tell him every day, go buy a lottery ticket and go bet on a horse.
But he just won't do it.
Sometimes he can be so stubborn.
Doctors are cautioning other terminal patients.
Do not try what Huey did.
They said there's no way that they can help themselves.
They will harm themselves severely.
Huey is currently writing a book and planning a national book signing tour.
Also in the works, a movie and sitcom based on the story.
Quote, I'm a very lucky guy and I plan to turn this miracle into some serious cash, said Huey in an exclusive interview.
An auction is also in the works that will sell the gun, the hospital bill, and in fact the tumor itself.
Any collector would love to own his own tumor and should be willing to spend lots of money for it, added Huey.
I don't know if I'd believe this or not.
This supposedly came from one of his friends and what we're going to do is we're going to follow up on this story just to see if it could possibly possibly be true I mean imagine this you've got a brain tumor you get the bad news two months bud you're out of here you're depressed you go home you put a gun to your head and you you don't touch a single pink part of the brain you simply dead-on aim and and it goes right through blows the tumor right out of your head
You have incredibly, in a situation which would have been inoperable any other way, cured your tumor.
That's the kind of guy I've just got to get on the air.
So anyway, at the beginning, I'll touch on all the gasoline, please.
I'll touch on all of these again, but any of those subjects I think are going to be fair game throughout the night.
It's one night that's just for the two of us, huh?
So, if any of those things get your brain cooking, begin your heart sizzling and your mouth wanting to move, you know my numbers.
And if you don't, they'll be recited for you coming up very shortly.
Open lines all night long.
This is Coast to Coast AM.
Once upon a time, once when you were mine, I remember those nights
Time, time, time To see what's become of me
Time, time, time To see what's become of me
While I look around All my possibilities I was so hard to please
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This is Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell on the Premier Radio Network.
Hey, guess what folks?
I heard from Richard C. Hoagland earlier today.
We have new photographs of the Cydonia region of Mars.
That's right, new photographs of the face and the surrounding area on Mars from NASA.
And so, yes, Richard C. Hoagland, along with a lot of other things, will be giving us his evaluation of the new photos and what they mean.
That's coming up Tuesday.
You're not going to want to miss it.
Now, we've got a lot of special lines going on tonight.
We'll sort of go over them one more time.
but really it's open lines for anything you want to talk about all night long
is absolutely That's Tom Bodetta.
I'm thinking of interviewing Tom Baudet.
Maybe a short interview.
It'd be fun to talk to him, I think.
I don't know why.
Anyway, it has been suggested that we have the all-deadline, those who are dead and intend to stay that way.
I don't think they would call, though.
You know, if they're going to intend to stay that way, then they're probably not.
But you must admit, it would be interesting getting a call from the other side.
I mean, it is well said.
That spirits on the other side can use things like the internet, telephones, electronic devices, particularly those subject to electromagnetic activity.
So, you know, that would be really interesting.
Get off to the other side.
Then other suggestions were inventors, anybody who's got a microchip implanted in their ear or their brain, I'll take either one.
Then I think really the winner here is this category with everything seemingly going to hell in a handbasket in the world right now.
How about opening up lines to two of the following categories.
Anytime travelers.
Anytime travelers who have information about the outcome Of the world based on current events, the Middle East, Afghanistan, the whole world, weather changes, earthquakes, melting ice caps.
Good idea.
Any time travelers out there who can tell us where all of this is headed, welcome.
Any ETs who are out there for the purpose of aiding and assisting during this time of change on Earth, what can they tell us about the present course we're on and the outcome?
So anybody in any of those categories is welcome to call on any line, any of the numbers we just gave out.
With that in mind, we plunge.
Wild Card Line, you are on the air.
Good evening.
Hello, Art.
Hello, sir.
This is Ricardo from San Francisco.
Yes.
And I want to wish you a well-earned two days or three days off you did, and I hope your back is feeling better.
Yeah, it was two, and it's much better.
It was a real shockerino.
Anyway, sir, what's up?
Okay, well, I wanted to speak about something that you had a caller a couple of days ago, or yesterday, that had to do with ETs.
And Heather had brought this up.
This is her name from San Francisco.
Yes.
And there's an underlying subculture here, earthly speaking, that is of non-earthly origins.
And they do carry a soul that is not original.
Wait, wait, wait.
You're saying that in San Francisco there is a subculture of beings who are not of earthly origin?
Well, worldwide.
At this point, the veil is being lifted.
And I think Sean should bring that up to you one day, Sean David Morton, that things that I did not hear him bring up about the Pope and the comet and so forth, I've been dreaming these things.
And for years I've been I've been playing things on my own radio show in San Francisco for the last three years until I got a back injury and neck injury also, which I talked to you about in 1999.
Certain things during that time period have brought me up to decide to start revolving around this arena and letting it out, that there is a very metaphysical plane of spiritual beings And they work on, in essence, getting information through the dream state, through outside interference from magnetic fields, through dimensional fields, and through assistance from what most people think to be angelic forms.
How about drugs?
Drugs?
That is not an involvement that's necessary to achieve this type of state.
but uh... the cosmic unity is all that's involved here is to you know i remember
san francisco you know in the sixties and well you know even today i understand
and my case uh... not drug-oriented i don't drink alcohol i i follow a path
that is that are you going to are you claiming to be one of these things
uh... i don't claim anything other than the fact of my existence here
I started when I was 12 years old with a book, which is something up there by Dale White from 1968, roughly.
I'll ask you straight out.
Are you one of these beings?
I can't imagine.
Straight answer, sir.
Straight answer.
I would say that I'm involved in this.
Uh, you make a great witness in front of a Senate subcommittee, you know?
I can't recognize you.
You are telling me, you are telling me, that's a yes, right?
In the affirmative, I would tell you that I've been working for unity of this nuclear madness that we're revolving around, and it's time that people who wear the veil start coming out.
And that's what you're doing?
E.T.' 's in America.
E.T.
worldwide.
You are one of these beings.
I'm bringing it up to you in that format.
All right.
All right.
Well, that's as far as I'm going to get with him, I guess.
But I think that was a yes.
Either that or he's working for them.
I wonder if that would be for or against us.
I mean, how do we know what they want with our planet, after all?
Oh, sure.
They say things about enlightenment and listening to what the ETs are channeling through somebody or another and all the rest of it, but... Hmm... Maybe they want... They want our real estate.
East of the Rockies or on the air?
Hello.
Hi, Art.
Hello!
How are you?
I'm spiffy.
Um, I was wanting to talk about the Atlantis.
You mean the one that they suspect may be off Cuba?
Yes.
I have had kind of a little theory.
I've been looking into it and what if these were aliens that had came down before us, unidentified people, and had started a whole planet after the Ice Age or something.
They're not really sure when the time period was and they made the civilization and now they're coming back to check on us.
I mean, has anyone ever looked into that, that could see what that was underneath there?
Well, they're getting there as soon as they can.
You know, they're dropping cameras and doing research and trying to figure out what it is they've got down there, and we should all know soon.
Now, what is the new one?
What was the name of it?
It's something off the coast of India.
I mean, they're finding lost cities, sunken cities that go back to the Ice Age and beyond, all over the place.
All of a sudden, and it's like fishermen and others have known about these things for a long time.
It's just that somehow archaeologists are just now getting around to actually investigating them.
Isn't it weird?
Yeah, that is real weird.
Yeah.
So, we may not be the first.
You know, there may have been others that came before us now, whether they were of this planet, created on this planet, or came from elsewhere.
Who knows?
Maybe we'll know when we get there.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Good morning.
How you doing there, Art?
I'm doing.
Oh, man, I can totally sympathize with you and your back.
I've had the same problem for so many years, and it's just, ugh, it drives me crazy.
I had something I wanted to run by you, and that is...
With the upcoming clone that's already in the womb, right?
Oh, yes, the claimed eight-week pregnancy in the United Arab Emirates, actually, yes.
It's to an Arab, you said?
It is going to be the clone of a very rich Arab, according to the Italian doctor, who has claimed to have done this in the Emirates, yes.
I was wondering, I just wanted to get your opinion on this, I was thinking, Because of the time of the chip being implanted and all that stuff, if that could possibly be the Antichrist, possibly.
Because I always thought, maybe, why would God curse someone with actually being the parents of the Antichrist, you know?
What if it's a clone of Osama?
You never know, huh?
There's a lot to think about here, actually.
Yeah, exactly.
And the one way I figured to find out, because of with Sean's prediction the other night, or what that guy that came through from the 2094, he said the name was Jamal, and that was their Antichrist figure, so... That's right.
If they name it Jamal, we'll find out, you know, that'll be the Antichrist.
Yes, well, we shall see.
Wouldn't it be, what would the right word be?
I guess it would be kind of karmic if the Antichrist were the first clone.
In other words, he appears not from God's hand, or from science's hand, but from our hand collectively.
Exactly, and that's like, yeah, that's the only way I think it's come about, you know, is from man and science, anyway, you know.
I don't know.
We'll see what happens.
We sure will.
Thank you very much.
That's interesting.
That the first clone could be the Antichrist, and he would have come collectively from our hands for cloning.
And the President has made several recent statements really down on cloning.
We definitely should not be cloning in this country, says our President.
And I might tend to agree with that.
I don't think cloning is a good idea, not right now, not at all.
They're going to make monsters, is what's going to happen.
Now, I don't know if this story in the Emirates is real or not.
Certainly, the Italian doctor is very well known and respected, I think, worldwide in this area.
So, one would tend to think the story has some validity.
Yeah, wouldn't that be a trick on the world, huh?
First time caller line, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hi Art.
Hello.
This is Desiree.
Desiree.
And I was wondering if you could help me with something.
That remains to be seen.
My husband was plowing a field in McFarland and he came across these three unusual looking rocks.
He was plowing a field in McFarland what?
Excuse me?
Where's McFarland?
In Bakersfield, California.
Outside of Bakersfield.
Okay.
Alright.
Thank you.
And these rocks punctured the tire.
And he got them and he brought them home and they resembled lava.
But they're, like, metallic, and they're very, very heavy.
So I thought maybe a meteor.
Wow.
And I'm thinking, well, who can I contact, or... Who do you call, huh?
Yeah.
Boy, that's a good question.
I thought you'd be the perfect person to know.
Oh, well, I... Let's see.
How big are the rocks?
One of them's 2 pounds, one's 11 pounds, and one is 12 pounds.
Pretty good-sized rocks.
Yeah, I mean, they're very unusual.
Let me think.
Why don't you begin by taking a photograph of them.
Okay.
And sending that photograph to me so I can put it on the website.
Okay.
And that's the best thing I can think of offhand.
Okay, and where would I send that to you?
Artbell at MindSpring.com.
Or Artbell at AOL.com, doesn't matter.
But try MindSpring first.
Okay.
My mailbox is bigger there.
Okay.
Alright, thank you very much.
Alright, thank you.
And we'll proceed from there.
Somebody will look at these Whatever they are, and they'll be able to tell us, I'm sure, what they are.
So you'll have to get a pretty good close-up of them, I suppose.
Get a close-up of one, and then get all of them in the photo if you can.
Wildcard... There we go.
Wildcard Line, you're on the air.
Hello.
Yes, turn your radio off, please.
Got it.
I'm 62 years old.
Congratulations.
Thank you.
When I was a young teenager, I read a book that had a scene in it that I'd like to tell you about.
It made a big impression on me.
Sure.
This was written by, I believe that the name of the book may have had something like White Hunter in the title.
He was a guy who led safaris in Africa.
Right.
And he claimed that he was, you know, ecology conscious for that time and everything.
Oh yes.
But one time he claimed that during his career he had spent some time... I take it he only hunted with a camera?
No, he led people on safaris, but he... Oh, you mean and shot animals?
Yeah, he shot animals.
Oh, yeah, big ecologists.
But he, well, he, you know, he claimed that he did at least observe the laws and tried to discourage poaching and all that kind of thing.
Anyway... Yeah, well, I think shooting animals for sport is really stupid.
Well, that was, it was...
Anyway, go ahead, sir.
Okay, he claims that one time during his career he got interested in observing baboons and not shooting them, just observing them.
Good.
And he claimed that at one point he saw something that made a big impression on him.
I've never forgotten it myself.
It made a big impression on me.
What?
He claims that he saw male baboons sitting together in a group as the sun was going down one day.
The sun was hanging in the sky, you know, a red disc.
Yes.
And they were looking, they were gazing all of them at the sun.
Yes.
And then after a while they turned their gaze as a group to the females in the group.
And a little while later they switched their gaze to the babies playing at their feet.
And then back, back to the sun.
Yes.
And back to the females.
Back to the babies.
Back to the babies.
And I guess that went on until the sun went down.
So it was a ritual.
Sounds like it.
It sure does sound like a ritual, doesn't it?
Yeah.
Wow.
Oh, wow.
That is pretty interesting, sir.
You're right.
Yeah, you know, the only thing I would say is I'd wonder if anybody else has ever observed that.
Well, all right.
Believe me, you're just saying that.
We'll bring it on.
Oh, that's really interesting.
That would be a ritual, wouldn't it?
Wouldn't that imply all kinds of things?
about the the intellectual level of these animals to look at the Sun then the females and then the children and to repeatedly do that as a group over and over again would appear ritualistic without question and when you consider the implications of what that means in terms of what they realize about themselves and are thinking about East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Let me get my radio.
Yes, by all means.
Always get the radio first.
All right.
Yes.
Been trying to get a hold of you for the last couple weeks.
Now you have won the lottery.
Yeah.
Hey, I got a couple things.
One, who is the doctor that has removed alien implants?
Dr. Roger Lear.
Lear.
Yeah, Dr. Lear has removed implants.
Did he have a website?
In fact, the coolest story of all was when he went after Whitley Strieber's implant in his ear.
I had the doctor on the air here, sir, and he said when he touched that implant with a scalpel, when he got in there, The implant moved away from the scalpel.
Yeah, I think I heard that.
Yeah, it moved on into his ear where it would have been dangerous to continue.
Oh, it was an incredible story.
Yeah, because I've had kind of an anomalous infection.
It started... Oh, do you think you might have an implant?
Well, it started in my ear, okay?
Yes.
As an infection in my ear.
Yes.
Then it settled down into my sinuses.
Yes.
For a number of years.
Years?
Into my sinuses.
Years?
Did you go to a doctor?
I've gone a number of times and they just kind of like want to treat the infection.
They don't want to take a look at it, really.
I've had some x-rays a couple years ago.
And what did they show?
Well, it's actually x-rays of my tooth.
Your tooth?
Yeah, and there is a shadow at the root of the tooth that looks kind of like an abscess.
Yes.
Okay, but then last few months it's kind of altered and it's gone up into my head.
From your tooth?
Yeah.
Okay.
Started in my ear, went to my tooth.
Ear to your tooth, and then up to your head.
Now on to the head.
Yes, okay, and what's it doing there?
Um, well, it's, let's just say, been revealing things to me.
Okay, I had a feeling it was doing something like that.
Alright, what sort of things have been revealed to you?
Well, it's time for the brothers, the sons of Abraham, to stop their fighting.
Huh.
Is that what it said?
It's time.
Well, same thing Pal's over there saying, but it's not making any difference.
Yep.
So, what did your implant tell you you can do to impress upon those embattled that they should lay down their arms and stop this crap?
Okay, they all have to be given, you know, security, peace, and pride.
Security, peace, and pride.
And also, a lot of them seem to want land.
Yes, and the Palestinians need their state.
They need their state, alright.
The Israelis need their state.
Right.
Jerusalem, though, the holy city, they need to quit defiling the holy city.
If they don't, well, God doesn't want to destroy the temple again, but he will destroy it in order to raise it again.
So then your implant actually is delivering, in a sense, messages straight from God, actually.
Right?
I mean, that is what you just... Well, it just doesn't make sense, does it?
Well, okay, then you are surmising that.
That's not an implant, quote.
That's you.
Right?
Hello?
Yes.
Yeah, okay, alright.
I just wanted to get that straight.
That's you, not the implant.
You know, that is... Jerusalem is central to... Yeah, I got that.
I got that.
I mean, everybody thinks Jerusalem is theirs.
Did you notice the hesitation there when I asked him that?
I said, that's not really the implant speaking, right?
That was you, and this giant... In fact, I thought he almost hung up there.
All right.
You just don't know what's coming this night, nor do I.
This is Coast to Coast AM, Friday night, Saturday morning.
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I can feel it coming, yeah, tonight Call Art Bell in the Kingdom of Nigh from Western the Rockies
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Let us review quickly the suggestions coming in for tonight's discussion.
Any lines...
People who have microchips implanted in their ears or brains.
We've already had one of those, actually.
It was difficult to separate the microchip orders from the personal comments of the implanted.
And then somebody else suggested an Area 51 line, and he's absolutely right.
If there are any Area 51 employees out there, now they don't talk frequently, you know.
You don't get a lot of Area 51 callers.
Because, you know, they have to sign these papers that say their mother will be killed if they talk or whatever it is.
So you don't get a lot of them, but they're definitely welcome if you're out there.
And I think this category is a very important one.
Carol in Mace, Arizona.
With everything going to hell in a handbasket in the world right now, how about opening up lines to time travelers who have information.
And surely, you know, time travel is going to be possible.
I don't think there's any question about that.
In fact, Mallet in Connecticut is working on it.
We're working on getting Mallet a scientist in Connecticut.
He's working on a time machine, a real time machine.
Anyway, she wants to hear from time travelers about the outcome of what's going on in the world right now.
Middle East, Afghanistan, weather changes, earthquakes, melting ice caps.
And that would be a really, really, really, really good idea.
So if there's anybody out there who is a time traveler, and I know you're out there, then by all means try and get through on any one of the lines tonight and tell us what you know about what's coming.
I mean, you've got to admit, these really are extremely interesting times.
The melting poles, both sides, everything that's going on in the world right now, the Middle East.
Heaven knows where it's all going.
If there are time travelers, this would be a time they would come back to because this is a an incredible time with incredible things beginning to occur on Earth.
So you just, you know they're out there.
Call.
All right.
Back to the lines.
Anything you want to talk about headed into the weekend is totally fair game.
Wild Card Line, you are on the air.
Hello.
How you doing, Art?
I'm doing okay, sir.
Well, this one may be a little out in left field.
Never on this show.
Out in left field.
Where are you?
I'm in Albuquerque, New Mexico, on all 770 KKOB.
Thank you.
I'm retired military, and currently a prison guard here in the state.
I'm not going to say my name because I know a lot of my buddies are listening right now and they'll probably recognize my voice anyway.
May I ask you a question?
What's that?
Can the inmates listen to my program?
Actually, yes.
They can.
I get all these letters from inmates.
I mean, you wouldn't believe how many letters I get and so apparently a lot of the jail folk listen.
Anyway, go ahead.
Well, a dear friend of mine passed away about seven, eight months ago waiting for a bone marrow transplant.
I'm sorry.
And I actually kind of came up with the idea from that.
We have thousands of people across this country on death row.
Yes, I think I know where you're going, but proceed.
You go there yourself.
It's kind of a harebrained idea, I know that.
We're listening.
We take everyone that's on death row, that we're paying millions of dollars to house, feed, clothe, and take care of these guys.
And we take them out to, say, Fort Bragg or Fort Drum, one of the big training bases here in the country.
Yes.
We just save the military thousands of dollars for training.
We let these guys loose with one bullet and a gun.
Tell them if they make it off the base alive, they're free.
Now wait a minute, so in other words, you take them to the military base, they get one bullet and one gun, which now doesn't seem exactly fair, I mean it's not all that sporting, but you set them loose on the military base and then you alert all the military guys on the base to try and get them before they can get away with their one bullet in their gun?
Just send in one unit.
Send in one infantry unit.
One infantry unit will be hunting for this guy with his gun and bullet.
Yeah.
Just stay up for two.
And if he makes it out alive, then what?
Free pardon.
A free pardon.
If, on the other hand, he is gunned down without mercy by the regiment you've sent after him, or whatever.
Harvest his organs.
Then he has to agree to have his organs harvested.
No.
He's going to be put to death anyway if he stays in the prison.
It's a voluntary basis.
It would make one hell of a reality TV show.
Yeah, I think so.
I'll tell you that right now.
And another one bites the dust.
How do you think the prisoners that you guard, who are listening to this program right now and will recognize your voice, are going to feel about what you've suggested nationally here?
I actually imagine quite a few of them would go for the idea because they'd do anything just to get outside for a while.
I'll tell you what.
Do me a favor.
Conduct a little survey for me.
Okay.
Go back and talk to some of them.
I mean, what else have you got to do, basically?
Talk to them and put it to them and tell me what they say.
Will do.
Alright?
I'll be looking for either a call or email from you with the results of your survey.
We'll do.
Okay, take care.
And then, of course, any prisoners out there are welcome to respond.
You know, we're still not taking snail mail.
Don't send snail mail till I get this damn anthrax thing straightened out.
We're not taking snail mail.
Which really ticks me off.
Anyway, now I'm hearing that we may never hear who did the anthrax thing because it could have been some sort of inside job.
That's a big rumor out there right now.
East of the Rockies, you are on the air.
Hello.
Hello.
Going once.
You better speak.
Going twice.
Last chance.
I can hear you.
You're not there.
Okay, goodbye.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hello.
Hi, Art.
Hi.
This is my first time calling.
I'm a little bit nervous.
Oh, well, take a deep breath.
I'm serious.
Take a deep breath.
That'll help.
Okay.
The dreams that you've been getting from your emails?
Oh, you mean all the people having dreams about catastrophic events coming?
Yes.
I've been having those for like the past two weeks.
Yeah, here we go.
That's exactly the timeline, by the way, dear.
That's when I began getting them about two weeks ago.
Really?
Yep.
Well, see, and it's been going on, and it's not telling me really what's going on.
I'm not psychic or anything, I don't think, but I just have bad feelings, and it's just really weird.
And there's another thing I wanted to touch base with you on, is that I started listening to your show about a week ago, or I think it was a week and a half ago, and I heard that thing about that recording you played about that Russian hole, I don't know.
Ah, yes.
The sounds, the sounds from the Russian, the Siberian hole.
Yeah.
Where the scientists, after hearing what they had recorded on tape, they took off, and can you blame them?
No, I was so scared.
I've been freaking out in my living room for the past week, because my husband's gone every night.
Ever since you heard that, you've been sleeping on the couch?
Yes, yes, yes.
I mean, that's the most horrible thing I've ever heard of.
Now, you tell me, you tell your husband for me, that that is not my fault.
That's not my fault.
That's the way you heard the tape, and that's all there is to it.
I know, but do you believe that that's real?
I mean, did they try putting video cameras down there or anything?
Would you really want to see the results of a video camera that was taking a picture of this?
No!
My guess is, dear, that after you saw the video shot of that, you'd be sleeping in the car.
In shock, probably, yeah.
That just scared me so bad.
I have no idea what that sound was.
Alright, well listen, thank you very much for the call and go back to bed.
I'm going to listen to your show first.
Alright, see you later.
Bye Art.
Take care.
First time caller on the line, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hi Art, how are you doing?
I'm okay sir.
Yeah, this is Chuck.
I'm listening to you on the Big Talker 1210W, PhD in Philadelphia.
Philadelphia, yes indeed.
Alrighty.
Um, I wanted to call you last year.
You had one of those, uh, call-in open line things that are a true story or not a true story, and people had to vote on it.
Truth or trash?
It is a false truth.
Absolutely.
I'll preface this by saying everything that I have to say here is absolutely 100% true.
Okay.
And if I were a religious person, I would smell a bag of Bibles.
But you see, having prefaced your comments with the whole truth or trash concept, you put what you're saying in doubt.
Why didn't you just call up and say, God, I have this absolutely true story for you?
This is an incredibly true story, I have to tell you.
All right, that's better.
Go ahead.
All right.
Probably about 15 years ago or so, I was hanging out at my friend's house, and he had three cats who always got along.
He had a gray tabby, One that kind of looked like Yeti, the orange-y color tabby thing.
Right.
And this really, really old, um, the white Persian thing.
And they always got along.
But one day, this big, orange, fat tabby came to the back of the door.
The sliding glass door was open, the screen door was shut.
It was summertime.
And the three cats were sitting there in a semicircle looking at this cat.
And they just sat there and kind of looked at each other.
And I remember saying to my friend, stop.
I said, what, you know, what's with the cats?
You know, we're sitting there, we're looking at the cats.
Yeah.
next thing you know they start chattering in this really weird
new cat to do with his goofy cat lines are kind of a quick you know where are
we are making these weird sounds so that went on for probably about half an hour so really
oh yeah and boy said uh... my friend thought if you go get your
your tape recorders he ran got a paper court instead of that it makes the cat
all and and it's a p a portion of the all all i'll get to that too are all the
other day uh... but it could be started kind of it it that part of
the point they were chatting with each other and then it started to get this
heated argument And it was getting louder and louder, and I was getting excited, and the cat outside was, you know, the hair started standing up on there, and we were like, man, look, they're arguing.
We thought it was kind of funny.
Well, the three cats inside just started going crazy, tearing each other up, and fur was flying everywhere.
What?
Really?
What's that?
Nothing.
I said, what really?
I'm picturing this one cat started a fight among the other three.
Yeah, it's like he came in and just kind of stirred the pot up a little bit.
So the cats were going crazy.
And Chris, we call him Stob, he ran in the other room, grabbed a blank and came out and we tried to separate the cats.
Well, while we're trying to separate the cats, Yarns one, he was like a little baby, he took off.
And we're trying to separate the old Now, at this point, this cat was probably about 13 years old.
I mean, it was this old thing that would lick itself and forget to pull its tongue, and it was a mess.
And it was sitting there, and we were trying to separate them, and it was the big grey tabby and this cat were trying to separate them, and... You mean like in a bar fight?
Like in a bar fight.
We were trying to do it with blankets.
We were trying to stretch his butt between the two.
Yeah, blankets are good.
The old Persian one kind of hunched up a little bit and said, Get away!
And it sounded just like that.
You lie.
I swear.
You lie.
Wait a minute.
Do you have a tape of this?
I don't have a tape of that.
That's what I was going to get today.
That's some rosemary.
The cat said that.
I looked at Stav, and I said, What did he say?
And the hair was standing up on my end.
And he said, He said, Get away, man.
He said, Get away, man.
So we started freaking out.
So I just dropped the blanket.
it's your cat. I walked away. So he had to deal with the cat. So we had this tape, but it had cut off way before
that. So all we had was the, you know, the, like that part.
So the cats after a while kind of calmed down and like weeks went by. We were telling the story to somebody and we
had the tape. So we would bring the tape out and every time we played the tape, the cats would go nuts and start
tearing each other up again.
You're claiming anyway, you still have this part of the tape.
His sister, because she got really mad, because every time, you know, we would, all the friends would come over, we'd play this tape, the cats would go nuts.
Each other, she erased the tape.
Oh, for heaven's sakes.
Rosemary, probably.
It made me so... Oh, not that I talk to her much anymore, but we gave her junk about that for the longest time.
Alright, now, you honestly, you see, you called up in the beginning, you said you swear on a stack of Bibles.
If I were a person... If you were religious, well then... If I were a decent, God-fearing, church-going person, which you apparently are... I would put my hand on a stack of Bibles and swear to this.
Which you apparently are not.
Is that right?
I'm not, but...
It's still the truth, whether or not I wish to be stricken down by an angry God if I lied.
Alright, fine.
I'll accept that.
You've got to admit, even though you may not be a believer, it could all be true and you'd be taking a terrible chance swearing on a stack of Bibles if it weren't.
And I wouldn't call you up if I ever want to make up a story.
I'm sure it'd be a lot better than a cat saying, get away.
But it's the only thing we ever heard the cat say.
All right.
All right.
No, listen.
Thank you for the call.
It was a good call.
And I'll add to it a little bit.
My wife, we have two exceptionally intelligent cats.
Shadow, who is partial to me.
She's the only female we have.
She sleeps with me.
You know, she spoons me every night and sleeps with me.
She's incredible.
Oh, she's scary.
She is scary.
She's so intelligent.
And Yeti, who is extremely intelligent, except he's a kid.
You know, he's still a kid and he plays, his entire life is devoted to play.
Shadow, however, my wife says, has whispered in her ear.
Has come up in bed and whispered in her ear.
Something actually said, in a whisper, from a cat.
And if you were to look at this cat of mine, and spend any time at all with it, you wouldn't doubt that.
You would look into the piercing, staring, unblinking, almost frighteningly intelligent eyes and you you really wouldn't doubt that story you wouldn't need
a stack of bibles west of the rockies you're on the air hello
alert high okay you you've called my opinion pedestrian but i keep
thinking about it uh... what what
well i mean it was all listen again we'll see if we still think it's
pedestrian go ahead okay uh... i believe that time travel is not possible because
time doesn't exist and you have stated that time exists because of motion and i
don't quite understand Yes, I do regard it as pedestrian.
If there were no objects at all, if there was no space, in other words, an instant before the Big Bang, There was no time, because there was no reference.
The only way we have to know there is time is to have a reference for it, and that means have different objects in the universe.
The moon goes around the earth.
We can document the amount of time that takes, the ticks, the number of ticks it takes, or the number of ticks for the earth to go around the sun, or other, and that's what I mean by motion.
Do you understand?
Yes.
That's how we calculate the passage of time, because we correlate it with and compare it to motion.
Okay?
Okay.
That's what I'm saying.
All right.
And the theory that supposedly proves it is that watches slow down when you approach the speed of light.
Basically, that's a mechanical object that's slowing down.
It doesn't prove that time exists.
Actually, sir, if you take two watches that are precise and you put them in jet planes and fly them in opposite directions from each other, you get a completely different result on those accurate time pieces.
Did you know that?
No.
Well, then know it now.
But what does that mean?
They're basically mechanical devices.
I'm not certain what it means.
I just know it's true.
And I think time is measured that way, against either distance or movement of objects.
I agree with that, except that it's just a man-made idea.
to measure something we call time, but because...
Well, that's entirely possible, sure. We've concocted all this based on our physical universe and what
we can see and observe. What choice do we have?
Well, the other choice... well, we have a choice not to measure time at all.
No, we don't.
What kind of world would it be if we didn't measure time at all?
You're probably one of those people who just doesn't want to work in on time or something.
I don't know.
Listen, we've got a break.
Bottom of the hour is coming up.
I'm Art Bell.
This is Nancy.
I got some troubles but they won't last I'm gonna lay right down here in the grass And pretty soon all my troubles will pass Cause I'm in Shoo Shoo Shoo Shoo Shoo Shoo Shoo Shoo Shoo Shoo Shoo Shoo Shoo Shootown I never had a dog that liked me some Never had a friend or wanted one, so I just lay back and
laugh at the sun, cause I'm in shushushu, shushushu, shushushushushushu, sugar town.
4 oh
oh oh
if I could turn the pages in time then I'd be able to just to pay it through
I was one, I was one, I was one of us but I couldn't find the way
so I'll set the bar for you and me tell me, tell me, tell me lies
tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies hey it's open lines everybody
Friday night, Saturday morning, we'll entertain just about anything under the sun.
Actually, we've already done that.
The gorilla story.
The females, the sun, the females, the babies.
The ritual.
That was pretty good.
And then I'd say the cat story was right on up there, too.
The argument.
Then the yelled statements.
Oh, man.
Anybody else with one like that?
We'll be right back.
And then, of course, we can't prevent, uh, we can't, uh, we can't forget the prison guard who called a little while ago.
I thought that was classic, too.
Uh, the suggestion of, uh, giving these, uh, prisoners one gun, one bullet, and then putting them on a military base, giving them military practice.
I don't know.
It's, it's stuff of a new reality TV show.
I think we could call it Oregon Dash.
You know, they try and make it off the base alive, right?
If they don't make it off, why, their organs are donated for a worthy cause, you know, like that man's friend who died waiting for the bone transplant.
And if they make it out, then they win their freedom.
Oregon Dash.
Tonight at 10.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Uh, yes, hello.
Art?
That would be me.
Yeah, hi.
My name's Willie from Centralia, Missouri.
I'm listening to you out of St.
Louis.
Yes, Willie.
What's up?
Well, I've got an interesting theory.
Okay.
About the Antarctica ice shelf, how it fell into the ocean and everything.
The Larsen B ice shelf, sir, actually just completely disintegrated and fell into the ocean, then up at the North Pole.
They're expecting a new ocean soon, yes.
Here in Missouri we usually have pretty harsh winters and all year this year we've had no winter.
No snow whatsoever.
I've got a theory.
I know we're having a drought all across the country.
I think aliens are secretly changing our atmosphere and adapting it.
You mean to something more like what they're used to?
To where they can inhabit our planet.
I wonder what kind of eventual climate is going to suit them if that is the case.
We'll look at Mars.
What are we going to look forward to?
Well, I'd rather not.
We're not good up on Mars.
We'd have to have spacesuits to be on Mars.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Mars used to be like Earth.
Yeah.
And no telling what is on Mars.
There's pyramids on Mars, there's a face on Mars.
All kinds of things on Mars, yes, even foliage perhaps.
Yeah, underground water.
Yep.
And they may have already done it to Mars.
And they could be doing it to us now.
So in other words, Mars could actually now be a habitable planet for whoever's up there.
And they could be converting our atmosphere to that that would suit them, which would be more like Mars.
I get it.
I see.
Well, that would be entirely unsatisfactory, you know, for all the humans and even maybe the microbes.
No, I don't exactly know what the, you know, the atmosphere on Mars is like, but it wouldn't be good.
Now, if that's the beginning of the change that we're getting right now, huh, that would just not be satisfactory.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hello.
How are you?
I'm dookie.
I've been listening to some of these theories, and quite comical, actually.
It depends on which side of the organ you're on.
That's true.
Well, let's see.
Where do I start?
Beginnings are always the beginning.
The only way we'll understand.
Well, my father was stationed at Roswell in 1947 when that craft came down.
He does have pieces of the craft.
Oh, you can stop right there.
Now, is your father still alive?
Yes, he is.
And he is in possession of crashed pieces from the saucer at Roswell?
Oh, yes.
He was a major at the time.
Um, what is he going to do with these pieces?
Well, upon his death, he's going to turn them over to me.
He has colon cancer and cancer of the... I'm sorry?
A few other things.
And what are you going to do with the pieces?
I'm going to turn them over to the museum at Roswell.
Oh, you are?
Yes.
Um, that's not bad, sir.
That's not bad.
I thought you were going to, for a second, I thought you said you were going to give them to the military.
No.
No.
The Museum at Roswell, so they've got a lot to look forward to down there.
I've already talked with them about it.
Oh, really?
Yes.
My former rank was full colonel.
In what?
At Roswell, at Area 51.
You're 11 and a half years.
You worked at Area 51?
Underground.
Just over the hill from me.
Oh, underground.
All 27 levels.
Okay, that's the first I've heard of that.
27 levels.
Yep.
27 levels.
Underground.
So those photographs we see, usually Russian satellite photographs of the above ground stuff, that's nothing compared to what's underground.
That's nothing compared to what's underground.
27 levels.
Can you describe anything about the levels or... What would you like to know?
Oh, I'd like to know it all!
Whatever you're willing, any bean you're willing to spill.
Do you have your tape on?
Always, sir.
Okay.
Now let's see, where do I start?
I don't know.
You were a young, eager Area 51 employee.
Then what?
Well, I was an extremely young lieutenant.
My first duty station was the Pentagon.
My second duty station was, of course, Nevada.
The reason that I was stationed there was because my father requested that I be stationed there.
Background and experiences when I was a young child.
and of course with UFOs and his as well of course and his too
yeah alright um so we all want to know what's at area 51? Area 51
well remember a while back when there was a bunch of kids on milk cartons?
yes Guess where they're at?
Area 51.
You hit it.
Now, why would the milk carton kids be at Area 51?
No, not a milk carton.
Well, I understand that.
I mean, I'm talking about the kids.
Well, I call them milk carton kids.
Why would they be up there?
Because they are being genetically altered under genetic engineering to allow them to survive the poisons that have been placed in our atmosphere by us.
So, when it comes to only the cockroaches survive, it'll be the cockroaches and the milk carton kids.
Well, it goes on very extensively from there.
That's disgusting.
Another thing that might be of interest to you, I've heard you mention on several of your advertisements of your show, the hollow earth theory.
Oh, I've had guests on about it, yeah.
The Hollow Earth is definitely hollow.
It is.
So that's real.
We've had several of our staff at Area 51 have visited the interior world.
Colonel Stevenson?
Allen?
I had somebody who called the show and said every hole greater than 10,000 feet is classified and then he went out and didn't send me an email and tell me why.
You wouldn't happen to know, would you?
The reason that he said that is because basically any cave that you take a compass with and hold it in front of the cave If it spins like you're at the North Pole, it goes all the way through.
Wow!
Now that's an interesting bit of trivia.
Yes, it is.
And Mount Shasta is a major opening.
Okay, so if you think you've got a hole that goes endlessly, get a compass, and if the compass spins, you have a hole that goes all the way through.
Oh, that's hot stuff.
And what do you know about what's in the inner earth?
It is inhabited by a race of people called the Aryanians.
They were met by Admiral Richard Evelyn Burr in 1947.
Say that name again.
The Aryanians.
In 1947.
And what are they like?
What are the Aryanians like?
Well, they're large in stature.
Uh-huh.
The males were between 13 to 13 and a half feet tall.
Wow, they must have big ceilings.
Actually, the trees in the interior, if you'll notice, Adam O'Byrd talked about it in his diary, which I have read fully.
Actually, that is the truth.
Yes, the trees in the interior world.
They rise to a level of 1,300 to 1,500 feet in the air.
When his DC-3 flew past him in 1947, they had to avoid the trees in order to avoid collision.
Boy, can you imagine if lumber companies got hold of that information?
So you swear on a stock of Bibles?
You got it.
I'm thinking of writing a book about it.
An Area 51 employee for that period of time?
Employee of the U.S.
Government.
Now, why are there so many levels?
I mean, are they all dedicated to separate things?
Well, it's interesting.
The first six levels were built by man.
The remaining levels were already there.
Oh, cool.
So, in other words, we just built down to the top of their layers.
That's right.
Wow!
There's tunnels that go from Area 51 as far as the Atlantic Ocean, out into the center, and joined to a pyramid underneath the Atlantic Ocean.
You have tunnels that go from Area 51 to the middle of the Pacific Ocean.
You're serious?
Quite.
There's tunnels that intersect with Hawaii.
How can you say all of this without fear of... Well, when I got out of the military, they tried to tell me, you can't do this, you can't do that, and I looked at them and I said, kiss me.
I said, once I'm out of your... Military almost never kisses you, that's one thing I remember from it.
But I also have a very rare blood type, so they don't mess with me.
Anyway, but anyway, so you think all of that protects you?
Oh yes, yes it does.
The way they put it to me was, they said, no one will believe you so we're not worried about you.
Well, you know, they could be right about that.
Alright, anything else we should know about Area 51?
Any high points that are very important?
High points?
Sure.
We have a fleet of aero ships there called XX118s.
They are sports craft models.
I have flown one.
Personally?
Personally.
They work on the touch control.
When you put your hands on the panels.
Yes.
The actual panels have six fingers, but you can put your hands in them and match them.
Well, see, that is reminiscent, of course, of some of the Roswell material.
Yes, true.
Six fingers.
Oh, that's something.
Some of your material that was, well, some of the technology that we have came from Roswell, such as the microchip.
Yep, I understand a lot of technology came from Roswell.
Yeah, well, most of the computer stuff came from Roswell.
And are there, as reported by some, sections of that underground area where there are craft, extraterrestrial craft, and, it is rumored, beings that are held there?
Well, they're not held there.
Against their will.
They are there by choice.
Well, did they come down as in from the sky and then below Earth or did they come up from below?
First contact with alien beings was at a little experience we had at a thing called Philadelphia Experiment.
That would be Al Belick's thing.
All right, sir.
Thank you very, very much.
Well, what grade do you give that story?
Man who claims he worked at Area 51, had an awful lot of details there about underground stuff.
Scale of 1 to 10, what do you give that, with 10 being... unimpeachable.
With 1 being, hee hee, you've gotta be kidding.
Uh, first time caller line, you are on the air, hello.
Art, for whom the nocturnal bell tolls.
Yes, it does do that.
Greetings from Jeffrey in Clearwater, Florida.
Yes, sir.
What type of scientific data do we have on plasma balls?
Actually, we have some new startling information on plasma balls.
I listened to a guest on Whitley Strieber's Dreamland, a scientist who has now documented that plasma balls are able to exist in our atmosphere and maintain their level of energy, or get this, sir, and this defies all known physics, increase the amount of energy as they exist in our atmosphere and there's no known way with the physics we know that that can occur and yet they have actually measured that.
That is the latest we've got on plasma balls.
And these are gaseous objects?
Well, they're not altogether sure.
I have seen plasma balls twice and was curious as to Your information that you've just presented, I heard a guest that you had on, I believe the gentleman was from Texas, several weeks ago.
Yes.
Who discussed plasma balls in passing with you, but he didn't give any real scientific data.
Okay, well there is new scientific data on plasma balls and that's it.
For whatever reason, yet unknown, they can document that they're able to increase the amount of energy they're using and or their size in our atmosphere.
Now, that defies all known physics.
In other words, if a ball of something is created, say by a strike of lightning, and it would exist in the atmosphere, but it would quickly deplete, it would not or could not maintain the amount of energy as a plasma ball and or even more incredibly increase it, you bet.
Correct.
Now, do we have multiple sightings throughout the country?
Oh, yes.
Those throughout the world?
Oh, absolutely.
Oh, yes, yes.
So they're not indigenous to particular areas, per se?
No.
Okay.
No?
I was just very curious.
I saw a couple a few years ago, and that, to me, is exactly what they were.
And what did they look like?
The objects that I saw were probably about the size of a beach ball.
And they were seen, I saw these in Illinois, and there were other people witnessing this as well, myriad people, and actually it traveled at an alarming rate of speed.
It was at a distance and looked very small, actually looked like a light.
Well, you want me to throw you a curve in the whole thing?
I'm ready.
I've got a bunch of emails from people who saw what they thought were plasma balls, or began as plasma balls, and were small.
But then became larger in fact we've got eyewitness reports of balls enlarging to the point that something crawled out of them.
I can tell you the one that I saw I did not go back to the spot after the second time because a friend did in which this particular or a plasma ball in that area hovered over the car for nanoseconds but it melted the paint on the roof And on the hood of the car and rendered the car mechanically useless.
Wow.
I didn't return.
But as this plasma ball came towards us and did not stop, it would be behind us at a tremendous length at that distance, very small, and then it would travel back towards us.
Absolutely amazing.
But it was a ball of fire.
It was not a light.
Now, anything that would intentionally screw up the paint job of your car is evil.
I agree.
Have a good morning, sir.
You too.
Wild Card Line, you are on the air.
Good morning.
Hey, good morning.
How are you doing?
It's John here from Winnipeg.
Yes, John.
I was hoping I could give you something to consider regarding Israel, if I might.
Israel and the big mess in the Middle East.
Yeah, what a mess it is.
Yes.
You know, I often hear in American commentary suggesting that it's tit for tat, and there's no way of resolving the issue.
You know, I really feel that that's really not the total truth to the situation.
And I can just give you a couple of examples.
What do you think is the truth, sir?
Well, the truth is... Okay, here's a couple of things.
People need to understand that Ariel Sharon advocates The confiscation of people's property for no crime that they've committed.
But Ariel Sharon, on the other hand, is concerned about these people who keep strapping explosives onto their bodies and blowing themselves and a lot of Israelis up.
That is a problem, you know?
I can get to that, but I just wanted to give you a comparison.
The idea there is, if you're Catholic and you live in Israel, You're forbidden to own property, so that's not a democracy, right?
Or you have to be... Only Jewish people can own property, so if you're not Jewish, you're not going to be owning any property.
And as they progress through the confiscation of land, the people who own those houses and the property that is contained in those houses, and in some cases, the history of the families go as far back as history takes us.
Well, I'd say that both sides are at fault.
I mean, certainly you can't condone blowing people up.
Well, that's a different issue.
I just wanted to say that one thing.
It's not, though.
Every time they approach peace over there, more people are getting blown up.
It's not an issue you could ignore.
Right, exactly.
So that's the one thing.
The idea there is that Arafat, of course, doesn't do those things.
He doesn't confiscate people's property.
Or advocate murdering police officers or innocent civilians.
Well, yeah, but he does, according to many, advocate blowing people up with bombs.
That's criminal acts that take place outside of his authority.
Here's an example.
The Israelis don't really believe that.
And anyway, it's not going to end.
It's coming to you-know-what.
It's going to happen.
It's gonna happen.
Why?
Who?
Yeah!
What is this good for?
Absolutely nothing!
Oh, yeah!
Oh, yeah!
Uh-huh!
Yeah!
Absolutely!
Say it again, y'all!
Absolutely!
Listen to me!
I despise!
Cause it means destruction of innocent lives!
War means tears, and thousands of mothers die When their sons go to fight and lose their lives
I said, war, good God, y'all What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing All the times have come
We're fucked now, let it go Seasons don't feel the regret
Not till you win the son of the rain We can be like they are
Come on baby Don't feel the regret
Baby take my hand Don't feel the regret
We'll be able to fly Don't feel the regret
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Certainly is.
People calling that guy names.
A guy called about Israel and said he's a slimy anti-Semitic liar, that all citizens can own property there, even Russian Orthodox.
We're in the Knesset owned property, so that's interesting.
May or may not be true, I don't know.
More people than not on my fast blaster saying that.
If you'll stay right where you are, we're into totally open lines and anything goes territory.
And now it's back into the night, and let's see where to begin.
Here I guess, first time caller line, you're on the air, hello.
Good morning, Mr. Bell.
How are you?
You really are a first-time caller to the show, right?
Oh, indeed I am.
And what is your first name?
My first name is Jim.
Jim.
Okay, Jim.
For listening to you, 970 W FLA.
Oh, in Florida, yes.
Beautiful place.
It certainly is.
Indeed.
This happened to me and one of my backups.
I'm formerly law enforcement.
Ah, formerly a cop.
We'll stay formally, okay, and let it go at that.
Okay.
Okay, we need to keep credibility.
However, this happened 25 years ago, back in 77, 6th of October.
Okay.
The night was foggy and misty, and I recall it was not quite a full moon that time.
Were you in Florida then?
No, I was up north.
Alright.
Alright.
So, what happened was, we had to patrol a water reservoir.
And why we had to do that is because it took two lightning strikes and it killed the lights.
So it had no lights except around the office area.
All chain-link fence, and padlock gate, blah, blah, blah.
So what we had to do, I called BASIC, said, hey, I'm going out through.
And my backup heard that, and the backup says, hey, I'm half a mile away from you, Jay.
Let me know if you need me.
I went up around the perimeter of the fence and made my circle on the outside.
The wooded area, the distance to the fence is roughly 25 foot.
And there was a driveway that you could, you know, drive around the whole complex.
So I drove around that, secured that, thought, okay, now we need to go inside.
So we went out to the gate, called my backups, and I'm entering.
And he said, okay, he'll be on his way, he'll cover my back.
So in the meantime, I'm beginning to make my run through this.
It's roughly 20, 25, 26 acres of land there.
It's all chain link.
Okay.
Going up around this, I'm on the far end of it, furthest away from the gate, naturally, Murphy's Law, and I'm going up through there and I have I have my lights up and hyping and I have my side spotlight on and I'm going up through there and all of a sudden I see this quite unusual glow coming back at me.
It should have been yellow, but it wasn't.
It was red.
Pretty beautiful red, but it's nevertheless red.
Oh, what should have been yellow?
Well, what should have been yellow was the reflectors that are on the trees roughly 25% of the way back.
Oh, so you see this red coming back.
I see this red coming back and I stopped and I thought, well, okay, out of the norm.
I backed up and I took the cruiser and I put the lights to the fence.
Yeah?
Made sure they were up in high beam and I have now, I clicked my spotlight on And what I saw, I never talked about it except for my backup.
And I called the backup immediately, and I said, hey, you need to get up there ASAP, but come up dark.
No red and blues on.
Well, let's backtrack a little bit.
You never told anybody else.
You tell me.
What did you see?
What I saw was an entity.
It reminded me I had a very clear view of it, exceptionally clear view of it.
It had a face.
As I recall, it was a bat.
It looked like a bat face.
Like a bat?
Like a bat.
A regular bat.
If you ever saw a bat, just take that bat face and enlarge it.
To a human size?
Even bigger?
Well, no, not bigger.
Actually smaller.
Smaller than a normal human head.
Because this creature, animal, humanoid, whatever it was, Was standing, but it wasn't flat-footed, it was like on its toes.
Okay.
Okay, and it was like hunched over a little bit, and it like, where the shoulders were, it had like knob, a knobby protrudence coming off the top of the shoulders.
I didn't realize exactly what it was until a little bit later, then I understood it.
And it had eyes?
It definitely had eyes.
And I flipped the spotlight off of it, turned it back on, and it flinged back at me.
And I, oh my goodness, I remember my heart was racing.
And here comes my backup.
I told him to go around the perimeter of the fence and come up on the side.
In the dark, yeah.
In the dark, yeah.
He had his parking lights on.
Okay.
Okay.
And I said, do you see me?
And he said, oh yeah, I see you.
What are you looking at?
and I said, you're not going to believe this, but you keep on coming and you're definitely
going to see it.
And as my backup got closer to this, it turned and then I saw a side view of it and it looked
to me as if it had folded wings.
And it looked to me as if it had...
I'm telling you the truth.
This is getting better and better as we go.
So when it turned, was your partner now close enough to see it himself?
He stopped, and he got on the radio, and he said to me, Jay, what is that?
He used to call me Jay.
He said, what is that?
And I said, well, choose whatever you want to call it, a deer or a bear, but we need to file a report about this.
And he threw his lights on.
And when he threw his lights on at this thing, this thing took off.
Towards the cruiser.
Towards those lights.
You would think it would go the opposite way, being an animal.
But it went to it.
And it like took three hops.
One, two, three.
And it went airborne.
And when it went airborne, I reached inside the cruiser.
Because at that time I had my door open and that.
I reached inside the cruiser and grabbed the shotgun.
I thought, oh my.
And this thing went right out over the top of that cruiser.
Right out over the top of my back up.
Wow.
Right out over it.
Okay, well.
And I'll tell you what I heard.
Yes?
You remember your mother flapping the sheets in the bed?
Yes, of course.
That's exactly.
The sound it made?
That's exactly.
That's exactly what it was.
Flapping.
Like you flap bedsheets, yeah.
Like you flap bedsheets.
Of course I know the sound, yeah, okay.
Everyone can confirm it that much.
So, how did you and your partner report this?
When you put on the fives, I mean, what was it?
Well, what we reported was that we got our heads together and said, you know, it's like seeing the UFO, we're supposed to keep, you know, quiet about things.
So you reported what?
We reported a bear.
A bear.
Okay, well now, is your partner still alive?
No, he died.
He died?
He died in an auto accident.
Well, that's unfortunate for him.
I appreciate you bringing the story here.
What is it you think you saw?
Do you have a name for it?
I don't have a name for it.
The red glow, was it coming from the eyes?
It was from the eyes.
You could see it.
It was distinct.
Alright, well, I've got it.
Alright, well, I really appreciate the call.
There's another law enforcement officer with a very distinct story.
Now, I don't know.
What do you say about that?
Sounded rational to me, for sure.
But that doesn't sound like a rational story, does it?
It does sound rational that he reported a bear.
That's some story.
I don't want to say anything like that.
Ever.
I don't like glowing red eyes.
I never have.
It's been... And everybody has their thing, right?
For some, it's spiders and whatever all that scare people.
For me, it's glowing red eyes.
Uh-uh.
And that's probably exactly what I'll find.
I'll pass over to the other side, and it'll be these eyes.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hello.
My name is John.
Hey, Art.
How you doing?
I'm doing okay, sir.
All right.
Yeah, back in the 80s, I was wearing a pyramid hat.
I wore a pyramid hat for going on 10 years, almost 8 hours a day, working as a lifeguard.
You wore a pyramid hat as a lifeguard?
Yeah.
Didn't people tend to... I mean, I remember lifeguards when I was a kid, and I never saw one in a pyramid hat, so that would, like, draw attention.
Uh-huh, yeah.
I got in the Today newspaper, What happened is I got really badly sunburned, and it was a new job, I didn't have much money, so I built this hat out of cardboard, and I used gold-covered mylar, you know, the sheets that they use for sun protection?
Sure.
And I coated it with that.
So you were only trying to protect yourself from the sun, actually.
Right.
So the newspaper people got a picture of me, and I got on the B section.
It says, Lifeguard is cool.
The trade saves them from the scorching sun.
So nobody gave me a hard time about it.
I was wearing a suit.
I sort of became a beacon for unusual people to come visit me.
One of the first people came was Bob, an Egyptologist from NASA.
Oh, really?
Because of your hat?
Because of my hat, exactly what you think.
Well, there have been long rumors, sir, that NASA has been giving an unusual, I mean, irrational interest into Giza and the pyramids, and that they even launch on schedules, ancient schedules, and all kinds of interesting things.
So, maybe NASA figured you knew something.
Well, he told me about the Well, these are the risks you take when you wear a pyramid hat.
Yeah, you know, it's the great seal of America, you know, the pyramid on the dollar bill with the eyeball, right?
And then a lot of different people started visiting me like really really unusual people come in and just kind of fill
me in on Strange things and I never see him again. Well, these these
are the risks you take when you wear a pyramid for how many years
About ten years Ten years?
And I made them and I paint them.
Were there any after effects that you could now think, you know... Well, you know, before I was a non-believer, and I became... A believer in what?
In the Holy Ghost.
The Holy Ghost?
Yeah, I... Let me see... How about the Father and the Son?
Or is it just the Holy Ghost?
Well, you know, the whole story, I've got a theory behind why we're alive, actually.
Why do you think we're alive?
Entertainment.
Entertainment?
Entertainment.
Yep.
Well, you know what, I actually agree with that to some degree.
Entertainment.
It's a big part of life.
Laughter, wonderment, new things, adventure, things you've never heard about, done before, entertainment.
It all loosely comes under the category of entertainment, so I don't necessarily disagree with that.
I kind of like this program.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air, hello.
Hey, R, what's up with you, man?
Well, I'm just cruising through the night here.
All right, okay, good enough, I feel you.
Encountering as I go.
Okay, all right.
Here we go then.
Dwayne, calling you from the Anything Goes open line on the Big 89, 890 AM WLS in Chicago.
Chicago, yes sir.
Okay, listen.
I've got a friend of mine who was staring in the mirror the day before yesterday, kind of interrogating himself.
You know, he said he really wanted to get to What was going on in his life?
So he started telling himself truths about himself.
Truths about everything.
You know, just being truthful.
Standing in front of the mirror, sort of just spilling his guts about his life to himself.
Exactly.
Got it.
Now, I'm the one that listens to you and been listening to you since 96, and I'm into all this stuff, but he's not, okay?
Right.
And he tells me that as he's standing there, staring in the mirror, letting everything go, what happened was You know how you follow your, you move your reflection moves, it just kind of follows you around.
Absolutely seems to do that, yeah.
Okay, and he said that at one point he noticed that his reflection was frozen and staring back at him.
Really?
Yeah, and as a matter of fact I told him I'd be calling you and you know if you want to call him and you know, quiz him about this.
Oh, you mean he's willing to talk about this on the air?
There's something about mirrors, you know.
I mean, mirrors have always been mystical and magical, and they seem to cause things to happen.
And not only do I agree with you, but I was telling him, again, I'm into all this stuff, you know, listening to you for years, and I told him, okay, you know, you take all the, throw in some of the power-type things as far as energy sources, and I said, what you should try is Take a magnet and put it on either side of the mirror and see if that'll do anything to, you know, magnify it, boost the effect, what have you.
Me, it wouldn't freak me out.
I'd jump right in and be like, cool, but he was like, whoa, I'm not.
Not me.
I mean, if I saw my image stop or freeze while I was still moving?
Yeah.
Oh, I'd, I'd, I don't know what I'd do.
Yeah.
Yeah, but I told him I'd be calling you.
All right, well listen, if you would like to email me his name and or phone number, or he would, I would be happy.
I'd love to hear it firsthand.
Okay.
Okay?
Not a problem.
And let me ask you, do you think, because he was asking, well hey, why don't you call the Art Bell guy and run it past him and see what it could be?
And could it be out of body, or if any other callers out there have ever had this happen, You know, it'd be kind of cool if they call in and just, you know, throw their stories out there and see what happens.
Done deal.
And bless you and the family.
Thank you, and take care.
Sure, yeah, we'll throw it out there.
Anybody else had a mirror experience?
There's a lot of lore to go with what you just heard.
Mirrors are very interesting things, and to actually take time Crazy as it might seem.
And to in effect have a conversation with yourself while watching yourself, getting incredibly introspective.
And then to suddenly have an experience with the mirror returning a vision that doesn't match the present reality is not a surprise.
So yes, if there's any other similar stories out there, Probably the best way to be assured to get to me is to email me right now to this damn Anthrax thing.
I suppose eventually we'll just give up and figure whoever did it is gone and start taking mail again.
In the meantime, artbellatmindspring.com or artbellataol.com will definitely get to me.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hello, Art.
This is Bill from Rialto.
Yes, Bill.
I was listening to your interview with Mr. Morton last night, happily tapping away on my typewriter with some suggestions for lightweight tactical nuclear weapons for the restructuring of our arsenal.
Yes.
And he said something I hadn't heard in years, and that was red mercury.
Oh, that's right.
He did.
He said red mercury would drastically enhance the killing effect of, say, a one-kiloton weapon, or probably even any weapon.
Oh, yes.
I'd never heard of that before.
You have?
Well, it was first discovered and so far it only occurs naturally in South Africa.
It helped their nuclear program.
They had four at the time the government fell.
Well, it didn't exactly fall.
One of Mr. Botha's last orders was to dismantle the stockpile.
Of red mercury bombs?
Uh, no, not the... It's a booster, but, you know... Alright, listen, hold on.
I've got a break here I've got to do coming right up and we'll bring you back after the break.
Stay right there.
I'm Art Bell.
I've been drifting on the sea of heartbreak.
Trying to get myself ashore for so long.
For so long.
Listening to the strangest stories Wondering where it all went wrong
For so long For so long
But hold on, hold on, hold on To what you got
To what you got To what you got
Out on the street I was talking to a man He said, so my brother's not for mine
But I don't understand You shouldn't worry, I said, that ain't no crime
Cause if you get it wrong, you'll get it right next time You
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A couple of interesting comments from the Fast Blast Gallery.
One gentleman saying, I think the caller who's talking about entertainment was essentially trying to say that we are here to entertain the gods.
Well, if that's true, then the gods be a-listenin' tonight, I'm sure, and they're entertained, I'll bet.
And then Marcus from Porter, Texas says, I bet the show gets real interesting after that mirror call.
And I do, too.
I want more on that.
That was particularly interesting, wasn't it?
I, number one, would like to hear from this gentleman first-hand.
Number two, anybody else who has had a strange encounter, strange as it may seem, with a mirror?
Now, he reflected on the fact that he moved, but his mirror image did not during this conversation he was having with himself.
Any of the rest of you have anything like that?
A wild card line, you are on the air now, good morning.
Good morning, how's your back?
Well, it's back.
Well, we're glad you're back.
Thank you.
I'm Diane, I'm calling from Toronto.
It was nice, it was a short little one, you know, it wasn't nice when it was happening, mind you, but it was nice that it was short.
Are you lying on the floor with your knees up on a bed or on a chair, something higher?
You know, when that happens... I sympathize.
I had the same thing.
That's why I asked.
Yeah, I can't be vertical at all.
I can't, as in sitting or standing, you know.
Is that sciatica?
Uh, yeah.
Yeah, that's killer.
Yeah, yeah.
Anyway... Anyway, okay, I just want to run through a few things.
I'm psychic.
I travel.
I'm psychokinetic.
I have.
I'm out of my body most of the time.
Psychokinetic means that you can move things with your mind, right?
Yeah.
Usually without my intention.
Like what?
Well, once I was in a pub in London and there was a glass in front of me with red wine in it and I was feeling particularly uptight about something.
Well, angry about something.
But I wasn't touching the glass and nobody was touching the glass.
But my energy was on the glass, and suddenly it just exploded.
You're not Carrie, are you?
No, I'm Diane.
There was this table next to me, and they went, how did you do that?
And I said, I don't know.
And for a year, everything that my now ex-fiancee had given me was breaking.
I mean, so weird kind of things.
So that didn't break up your relationship?
No, no, no.
That was just a sign from God that I should have been paying attention to, but of course didn't.
But the other thing too, you know those things when you wash your hands, you put your hands under and the water comes on?
When I'm at a body, but conscious in the present time, I'll put my hand under there and nothing comes out.
It's like I'm not in my body, but I'm usually above my body and I do travel and in my dreams I travel and I know I travel because my friends who I see in my dreams phone me.
But, but, but, during out-of-body travel, if you put your hands, which you can't see, right?
I mean, it's like you're in your physical body, right?
Oh, yeah.
Except if you put your hands under one of the automatic water things.
Oh, no, no, no.
When I do that, I'm in real-time, conscious time.
I'm not traveling.
I'm just out of body.
I'm out of body for most of the time, because, and I don't know when I go, but I always know when I come back, because I feel like I've just landed very quickly in an elevator.
And then I'm looking at somebody who's talking to me and I'm thinking, oh my god, they've been talking to me and I haven't heard a word.
What time is it?
And it's because you're not there, you're somewhere else.
I'm somewhere else, yeah.
But in terms of my predictions, they're never wrong.
We actually spoke, the first time I spoke to you was when the anthrax thing broke out.
Okay, you have predictions that are never wrong.
Never wrong.
Good advertisement.
Alright, so what do you predict?
Okay, what I'm predicting is, first of all, I think there's no accident, there's no coincidence that we're finding Atlantis at this time.
I think we're being given an example of where we might be if we don't... Underwater?
Yeah, over, you know, sunk.
Things that destroy civilizations are fear and ego domination.
Maybe they all destroy themselves.
I mean, you know, that's entirely possible.
Maybe all civilizations reach a point where they self-destruct.
Well, don't you think it's about time we learned from our history, and used our enlightenment, and the enlightened people come out, and the thing is, the media is, I'm afraid, is not showing It's not showing everything.
I mean, the Israelis are not letting the journalists in.
And Powell... The media is not enlightened.
No, but the media is not allowed to go in with cameras to film what's happening in Jenin.
I'm not surprised.
I mean, even our own country... You're not surprised?
No!
Look, even our country isn't really letting the media go over there and watch the fighting and film the fighting in Afghanistan, right?
You can be damn sure the Nazis didn't let anyone go into their concentration camps.
Well, you know, lately countries have done that.
They've decided that allowing cameras into a war theater is not a good idea.
It inevitably results in really, really bad publicity.
And so, you know, governments, including ours, have begun to take steps to limit the media's access to pressing national military issues.
So, you don't see a lot, do you, coming out of Afghanistan?
You don't see a lot of firefighting and all the rest of it coming out of Afghanistan, nor do you see... Actually, you see probably some more from Israel right now than you're seeing from Afghanistan.
Has that ever occurred to you, east of the Rockies?
You're on the air.
Hello?
Hello.
Hi, I'm calling from Kentucky.
Kentucky.
All the way from Kentucky.
Welcome.
Oh, thank you.
I just called to find out about your cats, how they doing.
I remember a long time ago, you used to talk about Comet.
Oh, my wildcat, yes?
Yes, how does he know?
Oh, he's getting better every day, and I know I've been saying that for years, but this process, this cat was so wild, man, that it's almost impossible to describe to you how wild this cat was.
Now, he will come around me, and he'll circle around me and rub up against me, and he'll get up on my knee, and that's about five million miles from where he was.
This cat was so wild, he scratched your eyes out.
I mean, he was bad.
He had to live in my bathroom for six months.
Well, I guess it took him a long time to get used to people.
Oh, man, I used to go in there.
I'd put on this big overcoat and gloves, you know, and I'd go in every day.
I'd devote an hour or two to it and I'd pet him and he'd go, oh, he'd groan at me and stuff and and try to get me.
And this was one really wild cat.
I mean, this wasn't just sort of feral.
This was totally gone.
But now he's back.
Yeah, I had a cat for a long time.
She was 16 when she passed away.
She died back in September of 2000, but she gave me a lot of company over the years and I just thank God for every day that I had her.
If I ever, thank you, if I ever write another book, believe it or not, I'm going to write a book about, and I'm not saying I'm doing this, It shows that if I ever were to write another book, let me put it that way, this is not an announcement that I'm writing another book, but if I did, it would be about the incredible experience of taming this wild animal.
The stories are incredible.
Absolutely.
This is one of the more incredible stories on the face of the globe.
It's a microcosm of an incredible story, but it is nevertheless incredible.
So I would write about that and how to do it.
I know how to tame a wild animal.
But I got my bruises learning, I'll tell you.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hello, Art.
This is Bill calling about the Red Mercury.
Hey, Bill.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I was supposed to come right back to you.
Yes, all right.
Apologies.
No worries.
Anyways, what it is, basically, is we and the Soviets, up until this stuff came out of South Africa, boosted our nuclear weapons with tritium.
It's a gaseous isotope of hydrogen.
I believe that is correct, yes.
Right.
And for a basis, During the operation Greenhouse shot George, it was a 20 kT device.
Boosted, it banged out at 65.
From 20 kilotons to 65 kilotons?
Yes, sir.
With red mercury?
No, that was tritium gas.
But here's the catch.
How does red mercury compare to tritium?
Well, it was originally discovered in tailings of a platinum mine.
A radiological monitor was walking by and his Wow.
dosimeter and Geiger went nuts. They took it and took it over to the Institute in South
Africa and they found out that this is almost a red clay type substance, but it is rich
in entrained tritium. Low maintenance, you can put it in with the bimetallic initiator
without the reservoir so you have a compact, lightweight weapon with a bigger yield.
You sound like you could build a bomb.
There are people wondering why I have it. It's one of those non-biases.
you could walk straight out.
Could you build an atomic bomb?
On my lunch hour, actually.
Really?
Yes, sir.
But I'm trying to get a hold of Mr. Morton.
I've been having a devil of a time doing it.
It sounds like he needs a consultant on these matters.
Well, he probably needs help right now with his email.
When you go on the program, you get millions of emails.
I exaggerate.
Thousands.
I mean, it's tough.
But I'm just one of those out of pure altruism.
I heard him last night and it sounds like he could use basically a consultant or someone who has knowledge on these things.
Well, you obviously do.
So all I can say is he's got a website, he's got a contact there.
Email him and send him your info.
But there's somebody confirming what he said about red mercury, essentially confirming that.
Wow.
Well, Sean is an interesting character, and so much of what he has predicted has come true, that's what keeps him coming back to the program.
His accuracy rate is very, very, very high indeed.
First time caller on the line, you're on the air, hello.
Hello, hello?
Going once.
Going twice.
Hello?
Yes.
Hello, my name is Brian, I'm calling from Seattle, Washington.
Yes, Brian, and on a cellular phone at that.
Yeah, my apologies.
It's alright.
I've been blessed with the gift of being able to have time stop for me.
Oh!
Have time stop for you.
When time stops for... Now, by that, do you mean that everything else around you stops and you are able to continue to observe, or what?
Correct.
I'm affected by I guess the best way to describe it would be if you were playing a VCR tape and you freeze-framed it.
You can do that?
On very rare occasions I've been able to actually make it happen.
What I'm saying is, when you freeze everything around you, you can then continue to move around and interact, if you wanted, with the frozen objects?
That is correct.
At least my perception is that I have videotaped myself during these instances and of course there's nothing that can be seen on the videotape itself with the exception of just a couple blurred frames.
What have you done during these periods of time when you've stopped time?
Well, I need to reiterate that I don't actually do it.
I have been able to do it on a couple occasions.
And on those occasions, sir, what did you do during that period?
I'm sorry, ask your question again.
I said, during those instances that you just talked about, what did you do?
I was able to, at least in my perception, manipulate objects.
I was able to, for example, one time I was pouring water and I was able to splash water on the table and of course when the episode ended there was no splash water though.
So I'm wondering if any of the listeners have ever experienced anything like this.
It's quite unnerving.
It certainly would be.
Anybody else out there able to stop time?
To freeze time?
There were a whole lot of really cool Twilight Zone episodes about that.
I don't know if you ever saw any of them, but it was really cool.
People found, or suddenly came upon, this ability to freeze everything and everybody.
And they could literally move around a town, move around a city, move around the world.
A world in which everybody but themselves was virtually frozen, stopped.
And of course, when they would reanimate, they wouldn't even know they had been stopped.
But in the meantime, you could move around among everybody else who's stopped because you had stopped time.
Hmm.
Anybody else out there?
Wild Card Line, you're on the air.
Good morning.
Good morning.
Hi.
Hi, this is James from Grand Rapids, Michigan.
Yes, James, extinguish your radio, please.
Okay, all of them, sir.
That's right, we'll hold for that.
Very important that you do that right away, when you get on the air.
Okay.
No, I still hear it.
Got it for you.
Okay.
Alright, sorry about that.
This is my first time calling, and I really enjoy your show.
Thank you.
And I visit your webpage often.
Yep, thank you.
And I'm recently down in Roanoke, Virginia.
I just, actually I had to bury my mother, which was pretty tough.
Yeah.
But, um, I experienced something and, um, I've been into, um, you know, some, uh, quantum physics, astrophysics, and I've read a lot of theories and stuff and, and, um, I saw witness something in the sky.
It was a flash of light.
And, you know, it actually, I don't know if this is a coincidence, but, um, you know, I was pretty much giving a prayer to my mother at the same time when I saw this.
And, um, at first I thought, It could have been a plane, a passing plane.
It reminded me of a flashing light like that.
But it didn't flash again for a while.
And then my fiancé appeared with me and saw another flash with me.
And we stared for hours after that and never witnessed another flash.
And I'm not really sure, are we able to witness like a quasar?
Or something.
We might see a quasar.
We might see an exploding sun.
You know, who knows?
But I think really what you're talking about here is that you might have seen a sign from your mother.
Isn't that what you're talking about?
Well, you know, I would love to believe that.
Well, there are many millions of people, sir, and this is the truth, and I'm one of them, who's experienced a sign from a relative who just passed away.
Now, millions of people, sir, And I know the scientists cough at this sort of thing, but I don't.
I'm convinced that a newly departed person can, you know, it's like probably when you go to jail you get to make one phone call.
They get to make one sort of subtle, if it can be picked up by the person, subtle or even not so subtle, hey I'm okay, here's a sign from me, I'm okay.
You know, that's great, and I would like to believe that my mother was a very religious lady, and she was really in touch with God and full of love, and anyone that really came in contact with her was kind of touched, kind of like an angel.
And I realized that when she passed, and she was probably about the closest to an angel that I've ever known.
And I'm not a really highly religious person, and It's things like this that really make me stop and wonder.
And it was just, it was fascinating, and I didn't know if maybe there's been any postings that, you know, that someone has witnessed a quasar.
I'm not even sure if we can witness, could they be witnessed by, you know, eyewitnesses.
You know, I mean, without a telescope.
I would be more inclined, sir, to say consider it to be a sign from your newly departed mother and leave it at that.
You know, people see all kinds of things in the skies and you could spend the rest of your life trying to verify what you saw and you never probably will.
But millions of people have seen and received signs from just newly departed family members You know, I know I've told the story before, but on the day, the morning following my father's death, same day actually, something really odd happened.
A little bat landed, a bat landed on our front porch, and there was nothing wrong with the bat, he just laid there.
And you know, it was a warm day, and my wife and I felt sorry for the bat.
I mean, we couldn't believe it, just decided to set down on the porch.
You know, they usually hang from stuff, right?
In dark places.
Well, this bat came down, sat down on my porch, wouldn't leave.
He was perfectly alright.
So we took him and put him in our causeway, breezeway, where it was the sun, you know, he was out of the direct sun.
And a little guy just stayed there all day long, happy as a clam.
Nighttime came and he flew away.
I considered that to be a sign.
A definite sign.
Nothing like that ever happened before.
Millions of people have had those signs.
It's not unusual.
There's something happening here.
But what it is ain't exactly clear.
There's a man with a gun over there.
Telling me I got to beware Like it's time we stop children. What's that sound?
This battle lines being drawn nobody's right If everybody's
But that was yesterday Yesterday's gone
Together Across my hands and miles of golden sand
But now...
But now It's over and done
Cause that was yesterday And yesterday's gone
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You know, I notice, now of course, a million people are trying to get through, but we haven't had any time travelers yet tonight, and it really would be, as several people indicated earlier in faxes, it sure would be an interesting time to hear from time travelers, wouldn't it?
Because maybe yesterday's gone and maybe tomorrow's not yet here.
But I have this feeling that there are those traveling through time.
And we're at such a critical juncture in the world right now,
that if there really are time travelers, it sure would be a great time to hear from them, wouldn't
it?
Back into the night we go.
And east of the Rockies, you're on the air. Good morning.
Good morning.
Hi, I'm Jimmy from Brooklyn.
Hey, Jimmy.
Hi, I listen to your show.
I want to get the chance.
You mentioned something earlier in the show about people who could predict the future.
77 WABC, right?
Right.
All right.
Is that you?
In a way.
OK.
I predict the future in a way because of knowing the past.
I'm telling you, we did not win the Cold War the way people tell us.
We were warned about all of this stuff before the so-called collapse of the Soviet Union.
By Anatoly Golitsyn, who defected in 1968.
And he wrote a lot of reports to the CIA, and those reports were then put in a book.
And the thing is, when a man predicts, many years before, that the Berlin Wall is going to be taken down, there'll be a new unification of Germany, that this is all a trick, I think that's something that should be paid attention to.
Now, I'm a little nervous.
I've never been nervous before.
Well, you know what?
Generally, I remember all of those predictions and warnings, but you know, if you look at Russia today and what's happened, if it was a trick, it's really, really a good trick because Russia is just in a calamity economically.
Yes.
A total disaster.
I mean, it's a trick beyond all reason.
Twelve years ago, I said on the radio, all over the stations I call, I said, The Soviet collapse is fake.
Under the guise of collapse, they arm Iran, Iraq, Syria, Libya with chemical, biological, nuclear weapons.
When they get caught, they'll say, that's proof we collapsed, we no longer control our loose nukes.
In other words, they negate the whole mutual assured destruction doctrine because they'll potentially be able to bomb us, let's say from Iran, Iraq.
We wipe Iran, Iraq off the map, the Soviets will lose nothing.
they also had plans in eighty six i have here their own document information bulletin this is their own
meeting in nineteen eighty six this was their plan up to the year two thousand
and the section where they talk about economics they talk about
rather i'm reading him radical modernization of the fuel and energy
complex is the keynote of the energy program that goes on and talk to you know what i mean you're
talking about their energy Yes.
Their energy program, sir, is a total disaster.
They have oil in the ground, and they have no facilities, no companies that will come and take it out of the ground.
They're looking to the West to come and take out the oil.
Exactly!
Now, they said this in 1986.
They helped create a problem with the Muslim terrorists who they've been working with for decades.
Now, because we have a problem, potentially, with the Middle East oil, We are going to develop the Russian oil exactly as they said they want to do in 1986.
Sure we are.
I just, you know, okay, well, I'm kind of going along with a lot of what you're saying.
But if it's a trick, then I think they trick themselves because they have fallen apart.
I mean, if you doubt that for one second, go and visit Russia.
There are many who long there for the old ways, you know, the return of communism and the free lunch and all the rest of it.
Even if it was a very mediocre lunch, they long for that.
But I'm telling you, if it's a trick, then the joke's on them.
Because that country has collapsed.
So I know what was said and forecast back then, and you can never let your guard down entirely.
I don't know.
If you look at the reality over there, it really is like if there's a joke, it's on them.
Once to the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Yeah.
Hi, Art.
Hello.
How are you doing?
This is Jack from the Oregon Coast.
You've heard me before.
I suppose I have.
Oh, yeah.
What's up?
Okay.
I want to talk a little bit about mirrors, but before that, you wanted to know about stopping time.
You were thinking of a sci-fi program, and these futuristic folks had what they called a timeline generator, and what they did is they could speed up their time And so it looked like, if you remember, it was a serious program.
What happened is everybody else seemed to be standing still.
That would be the effect, actually, yes.
Yeah, that was what happened.
So this one caller of yours, he wasn't stopping time.
What he was doing, he was moving ahead in time.
Well, maybe his metabolic rate really was... Anyway, what do you know about mirrors?
Okay, well, I used to study metaphysics probably for about 56, well, not 56, 256, I guess.
But anyway, what I will discuss with you is, the lady of the house and myself, we moved into this house and purchased this house in about 10 years ago, 1992.
Yes.
And there was some old folks who had owned it, and I'm saying old, well I'm old, but they were, I think he was in his 80s.
Yeah, well it's all relative.
Yeah, anyway, and he didn't want to leave the house, so what had happened is, they had a tax problem, you know.
Believe it or not, they were up there about five years in arrears, and it's a real fine county because three years is usually max.
So anyway, they finally got out of it because the house was paid for.
So anyway, this old man used to be down where I'm living.
I live in the lower area.
And the thing is, he used to sit down here with his pussycat, have the drapes and all the nice windows down here, and look out there.
And he just loved this place.
This is the place he figured he would retire.
As it was, financially he couldn't do it.
So anyway, the lady in the house, she had her two children living here for a good number of years.
And one day, the younger of the two, he was walking down the hallway upstairs and he saw this old man walking down the hallway.
Freaked the kid out, right?
He was only about 12 then.
And he told his mom, and his mom, of course, told me, and I said, well, doesn't this sound like the previous owner of this house?
I said, I'll tell you what I want you to do.
I want you to call and see if this man had died.
As it was, he had not died.
Okay?
He loved this house so much that what had been the essence of him, some of it stayed behind.
Okay, what you're talking about is a living ghost.
There is increasing evidence of living ghosts, of people who have become so attached to a physical place during their lifetime, even if it still is going on, that their essence remains in that house in a way that we might perceive as a ghost or an entity, even though they still live.
Now, that throws kind of a big kink in a lot of, you know, what we, the traditional thoughts about ghosts and about life and death and the nature of life and consciousness itself.
You know, this throws a whole lot of kinks into it.
Interesting.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
Hello, Art.
Hello.
This is Jimmy from Benton, Arkansas.
Yes, Jimmy.
K-A-R-N out of Little Rock.
Yes, sir.
In the year of 1988, I was watching TV and reading a model airplane magazine, and not entertaining any other thoughts, a voice spoke to me, not from in my living room, but within myself, I would say.
In your head?
In my head.
And it wasn't my voice, and it wasn't a voice that I'd ever heard before.
What did it say?
Well the voice spoke to me and in clear English said, a deaf angel is going to visit you.
Of course a cold chill went down my spine and I said, well not me Lord because you told me you'd give me a long life if I fought you and that's what I had been doing for a long time.
Of course it unnerved me and I prayed about it and went on about my business and kind of forgot about it.
A week later I was at my office and doing calculations.
I'm an industrial designer and just drawing and so forth and just really in my work and without notice the same voice spoke the same words and of course I had the same reactions.
Oh yeah, well now the second time, that'd be even... I mean, you could always put the first time off to a bit of undigested something or another, right?
Right, right.
But the second time around... Or anything, you know?
Yeah, absolutely.
Second time around, that's really bad.
Then I thought, well, I need to go tell my brother, but I didn't because I thought he'd think that I was a nut.
But, uh, well, I just, you know, went through the same song and dance with it.
I prayed about it and then forgot about it.
The following weekend I was to see a friend off to Canada by going to the airport with him and that particular weekend on a Saturday I normally get up early and go about my business like if it was a normal work day and that particular day I actually got up and it was raining outside and misty and I kept my drapes I actually got out of bed and still had my skis on.
Sounds like just the right time and kind of weather for a death angel.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I kept on putting it off and I thought, well, I better get ready.
And I got up and I got ready and I missed my friend.
I missed him and his son said, well, Jimmy, you can catch him if you leave right away.
And I thought, well, no.
I don't want to search for them in airports, so I thought, well, rather than zooming back home to my house on the freeway, I thought I would take just the back roads to my house.
I stopped and got myself something to eat, and on the way I asked the Lord to bless my food and all that sort of thing, and had my seatbelts on, and the speed limit on this little country road that I was on was 35, and I come around a slow curve to the I saw a car coming at me at a great rate of speed that was in my lane, and there's no way that I could prevent hitting head-on.
It was so fast, we just hit.
You knew you were dead?
Oh, yeah.
Well, actually, my thought was, well, I'm going into eternity, was my thought, and that's as fast as I could think anything.
I couldn't even say, well, Lord, forgive me.
I hear you.
Not enough time for any of that.
Of course, as religious as you are, you probably said something like, oh darn, everybody else.
As a matter of fact, I didn't say anything.
It was just a thought.
I just thought I was going to eternity.
Before we hit, I found out later, well, my speed limit was 35.
The lady that was, is a young lady, she was late for work and they said that she had passed A string of cars in a straightaway and came into the corner and it's been impossible for anyone to have made the corner because it's a flat curve, slow flat curve.
We hit and our combined speed was well over 100 miles per hour.
Let me guess, you went right through her or she went right through you?
Well, pretty much.
It was probably about as fast as I'd ever stopped.
Well, death angels do seem to act in that way.
I don't know, maybe death angel is not the right word for what you experienced.
Well, it was the right word because that was what was spoken to me.
She died.
She died from the impact.
She had her seatbelt on, but nonetheless, her head hit the window frame and she died from a concussion.
But nothing happened to you?
Nothing happened to me.
I was laying in the hospital a day or so after the fact.
Of course, it got me up a little bit.
Okay, so there was an actual physical collision then?
Oh, yeah.
I've had so many stories of people going through.
Oh, really?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah, we hit and there was definitely a physical accident.
Okay, I got you.
And I was laying in the hospital several days later just thinking about all this.
Well, it's like, well, it just either just come to me or the Lord just, you know, impressed on my brain that, well, a death angel did visit me, you know, and a visitor comes to visit you.
A visitor always leaves.
All right.
I've got it, sir.
Thank you.
That's interesting, so he was notified that there was going to be an event, and a death angel was going to visit, and I guess the word intervene wasn't used, but obviously that's what occurred.
Isn't that interesting?
In other words, an event, why would you be notified about an event that was going to occur to you of that magnitude ahead of time?
Wild Card Line, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hi, Art.
I just have a quick question for you.
Okay.
I guess it would be close to regarding shadow people, I guess.
Every once in a while, I wake up in the middle of the night, and I have an incredible fear.
Not of anything in particular, but I'm just scared out of my mind, I guess you could say, and only for a couple of seconds.
And my body seems to go stiff.
Yes.
Vibrate very quickly.
Right.
And I was wondering if you had heard anything about shadow people Maybe doing that to people when they're asleep and then waking them up or...
Well, certainly I'm very aware of the state of... you get paralyzed.
There's a buzzing sound and you feel your body is essentially paralyzed.
And you cannot move and it's terrifying.
And then you can either mentally end it quickly yourself, if you learn to do that, or if it progresses and you go with it and sort of let it go, I am told you have an out-of-body experience.
Now, how that relates to shadow people, I don't have any idea.
It may be a time that, you know, when shadow people are very interested in that particular little strange twilight time you get in.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Yes, this is Bob Mansfield, Ohio, for the MAN.
Yes, sir.
Back in the 70s, me and probably about seven, eight of my buddies, we was out fishing.
Yes.
Out here near a lake that's around here.
Yes, sir.
And we've seen this great big huge glowing ball.
It was probably 60, 70 feet in diameter.
That is big.
Probably 2, 3, maybe 500 feet up in the air.
Yes, sir.
It was pretty big.
And we sat there and watched it.
We watched it probably for about 45 minutes.
We was gonna, you know, call the authorities and stuff, but we didn't.
We thought I had time.
It was kind of late at night.
Thought I had time.
We knew it'd probably, you know, be zipped, gone or something.
And, uh, so we sat there and watched it and talked about it and stuff like that and just kind of paid attention to it until we couldn't see it no more.
Gradually, it was moving real slow for five, ten mile an hour.
So what do you think you saw?
It was a big luminous ball.
You couldn't see into it, but it didn't shed no light.
The moon wasn't out.
It had a reflection on the water.
We just talked about it.
You could see its reflection on the water?
Yeah, yeah, you know.
That is interesting.
It's like a big ball.
Well, all I can tell you is zillions of people have seen these glowing balls.
Sometimes they see things or even entities or creatures within these balls sometimes climbing out of them, sir.
Yeah, and well, a couple years ago they had a UFO thing around here.
Okay, well, we're going to have to hold it to your one story.
I very much appreciate it, but Uh, we're right at the bottom of the hour, yes.
Balls o' light.
Lots of them out there.
And who knows what comes from them.
And what they want.
And or what they would like.
Or what they seek.
This song says it well.
Sweet dreams are made of these.
Who am I to disagree?
I travel the world and the seven seas.
Everybody is looking for something Some of them want to use you
Some of them want to get you And you want to get it
You want to get it You want to get it
You want to get it The Heart of the City Street
The Heart of the City Street you
you The light from the neons turned the dark to day.
We were too hot to be sleeping.
We had to get out before the magic got away.
We were born under the night.
We had to get out before the magic got away.
In the morning with the night, Radiant in the shadows,
I'll look to you at night, Till the morning light.
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Good morning, I'm Art Bell.
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Don't move.
All right, let's do a little more running with the night, shall we?
On the wild card line, you're on the air, good morning.
Yes, Art?
Yes.
Hi, I'm calling from Indianapolis, and I don't know if any of your viewers out there might have heard about the, they're calling it in the local papers, the Kokomo Hum.
Oh, yes, we've all heard, I think most of us have, about the Kokomo Hum, as well as, of course, the one down in New Mexico, yes.
Okay, Art, the story I'm going to tell you, And, first off, let me say that before this happened to me, I had, you know, no belief in, you know, any... Unusual stuff?
Unusual, paranormal, always, you know, consider myself a pretty straight-thinking guy.
Fine, sir.
We always welcome new members here.
Okay.
So, let me tell you what happened.
Go ahead.
I suppose this was about a year and a half ago.
It was the middle of summer.
It was like Tuesday morning, like 2 in the morning.
Me and two of my friends had just got off work.
We work nights.
And a lot of times, you know, we would just get off work and, you know, sit on the front porch and, you know, talk.
Whatever, you know, just get off work.
Well, one night, I noticed, like, it seemed like a low-flying helicopter.
It looked like a helicopter, but it didn't make any sound.
It was, like, silent.
But it looked like a helicopter.
And, you know, one of my friends was like, oh, you know, that's really weird.
It's kind of flying low.
You know, this is over a residential neighborhood.
All of a sudden, It's hard to explain.
I felt like my whole body was being scanned.
I guess that's the best way to put it.
Was it like a vibration?
Yes, a vibration.
It felt like my entire bones were vibrating.
It was very painful.
It made me fall to my knees.
I was like, what is that?
As soon as I did that, I looked over and my two friends were experiencing the same thing.
They were like, oh man, that's really weird.
What is that?
Took us about maybe two, three minutes, and we kind of got our composure.
And, uh, we went back to the porch.
We were just sitting down, and we were like, oh, that's really weird.
You know, was that coming from that helicopter, or what caused that, right?
Yes.
Here's where it gets weird, Art.
About five minutes later, first we heard the sound of a woman screaming.
I mean, and this was not just like, help me, scream.
This was like blood-curdling murder, like, you know.
Like you were being stabbed to death.
Yes, exactly.
Back of your head, and the back of your neck standing up.
We didn't hear gunshots.
We heard dogs barking.
We heard sirens.
We heard all this loud and clear, but we saw nothing.
I mean, there was nothing around, obviously.
It's a residential neighborhood.
We would have seen anything.
Right, of course.
It all sounded like it was so close.
The next day, none of the neighbors reported hearing any of this.
I mean, this is so loud.
There's obviously no way anyone could have missed it.
I gotcha.
I mean, to this day, I can't explain it, but ever since that night, I've been experiencing what I guess you would call déjà vu, but it's a little bit different than déjà vu.
It's like, I'll be somewhere, and something will happen, and I'll be like, oh, I've seen this before.
It's almost like, you know, I guess you could say déjà vu.
I guess that's the best way to put it.
It's just more pronounced.
Yes, all right.
Well, I'll tell you what I think.
Number one, You should, of course, look into the history of the house, where you were, to see if there was some incredible, awful thing that happened nearby.
Number two, you could have experienced some sort of time slip.
They do occur.
And number three, and this is one that I want you to all think about a little bit.
You're going to be hearing a lot about this from me in the near future.
There are many people out there, and I've discussed this on my show many times previously, who have memories of things and history and major events in the world that are simply not as we know them to be now.
Now, what do I mean by that?
Now, for example, there are people who remember that Nelson Mandela died in jail, that he never, you know, was freed and then went on to become the president of South Africa.
There are many other similar events.
That's a very common one, though.
And the explanation for these would potentially be that a different timeline was created.
That in one universe, in fact, Nelson Mandela never did make it out of jail.
That he died while in incarceration.
However, in a timeline which was changed by somebody, or somebodies, Nelson Mandela lived, was released, went on to lead South Africa from apartheid, and changed everything.
So, there are many of us who believe That, as Dr. Michio Kaku has suggested, when time is tampered with, we don't exactly know it because essentially a new universe that follows a new timeline is suddenly created, preventing any of the paradoxes, the classic paradoxes that people talk about with respect to time change.
The problem is that a lot of people out there have these vague memories of the way it was, rather than the way it is.
This is a particularly interesting area to explore as we consider the possibilities of time travel.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hello, Art.
This is Rebecca from the Midwest.
What's going on?
Well, you at the moment... Okay, well then, let me take the spotlight and talk to you.
I have been listening to your show five nights a week for like the last two months.
Are you reasonably sane and sound after this?
I am, and that is what I'm calling to talk to you about.
I totally... I understand a lot of what's discussed, some of the things that are out of the ordinary, yet possible.
However, there are a lot of people I notice that call in with these humongous fabrications.
Well, you know, I don't want to pass judgment, but like the tunnel From 51 Area to... Area 51 to the middle of the oceans?
Yeah, Area 51 to the middle of nowhere.
Well, no, to the middle of the oceans.
Both the Atlantic and Pacific.
Yeah, well, you know, in the inner universe.
Yes?
You mean the world under the ground?
Yes!
Like, okay, seriously.
You can't, you cannot know.
Now, we do know there are underground levels to Area 51.
That's the truth.
Okay, well, like I said, I don't want to pass judgment.
Some of those things, like the Molk Carton Kids all being there.
I just, what is your, like, what do you think about this?
What do you think about some of these stories that come?
People call in and they collect these stories.
Well, I'm like you.
I mean, I'm like you.
Some of them, you have to separate the wheat and the chaff, and I'm not sure exactly how you do that.
Exactly, there's such crazy things going on.
But dear, some of what you consider to be chaff, others may consider wheat.
You know what I mean?
Like one man's trash is another man's treasure.
Something like that.
Yeah, something like that.
I can't help but, first off, your show is very, very entertaining.
I will say that.
Well, there are other things, you know, every other show in the world talks about pretty much the same stuff, right?
I agree.
But that is not the totality of our world.
Our world is made up of a lot of things we don't understand.
So, we deserve at least one program, in my opinion, like this, that centers on things that we do not fully understand.
Okay, well let me ask you this.
It's spoken of a lot as far as the unknown in spirits and all of that jazz is spoken of a lot.
Do you believe that if these people who are so convinced that these off-the-wall things are happening to them, that maybe they are welcoming an unwanted spirit?
Yeah, pretty much.
Like an unwanted spirit.
Yeah, of course.
I mean, just the way we imagine that Ouija boards and tampering with things that are invitations, you know.
Exactly, exactly.
Yeah, absolutely.
I speak, I work with a gentleman, July, really very knowledgeable man.
He's really cool.
And we were speaking of, I always use the phrase, I'm open-minded, I'm open-minded.
And he told me, you know, not to say that because when you're open, anything can come in.
I know this sounds awful, but like I said, I'm completely sane.
No, it doesn't.
No, no, no, no, no.
He's told me that, and ever since he's made that comment to me, I think about these stories, because I listen to you eight hours a night, or however long you're on, you know?
Yeah, hours.
And I just think to myself, like, some of these people, maybe they're reaching out, maybe they desperately need something to believe in.
And I wonder, I just wonder, you know?
I question everything, I guess.
Well, that's a good thing to do, but I, you know...
You really have to imagine that the world is wider than the world that is given to you by the mainstream media in America.
If all you do is watch the nightly news, and there's nothing wrong with it.
You know, they do a pretty good presentation of the physical whatever is going on in the world that day.
Fairly good, anyway.
There's more to the world than that.
There's more to us.
As mankind, then, is reported on the evening news.
And just because something is outside your frame of reference, be careful about calling it chaff when it might turn out to be wheat.
That would be my only caution.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hello.
Hi.
Hi.
Pleasure to meet you, Mr. Bell.
I've been an avid listener of you for over the years.
Thank you.
Where are you?
I'm in North Hollywood, California.
Okay.
Sorry to get in on the call of the person before me, but being that I've been skeptical about things, the only thing that I recall is that the other caller about the mirror.
Oh, the mirror.
Yes.
There was something that happened that, like, I don't have an explanation for it, but I have two mirrors, one on the faces on the east wall.
Yes, sir.
And then I have another one that faces on the west.
Right.
The one that... In one room you mean?
Yes, the living room.
Okay.
The one that faces on the west was left here by the previous owner.
I just cleaned it up and decided to keep it.
Sure.
Because it's a nice heavyweight mirror that you hardly find like in antique stores.
Sure.
So I kept it and polished it.
It's a really nice mirror.
So one night I was here by myself getting ready for the movers to come in that night because basically the whole house was empty.
It's a pretty old house here in North Hollywood and I was cleaning the mirror that faces on the East and I was looking into the mirror that faces me on the West and I saw my reflection and I was wiping the mirror.
I could see where the reflection gets smaller and smaller because you're looking into a mirror and then in that reflection you see another reflection of a mirror that goes smaller and smaller.
It was really weird that the activity, as it got smaller, didn't match what I was doing.
My body movements weren't in conjunction with what I was doing.
I hear you.
You weren't then so shocked to hear what that man said, were you?
No, because as I was cleaning the mirror and I was using my hand to wipe the mirror clean, I was noticing that my movements weren't matching up.
Yeah.
I think here we go again.
We're stumbling right into a gigantic area.
Obviously, a lot of people have had this experience.
What do you think it means?
Well, I got chills.
It reminded me like if I was in some type of time warp or some type of Twilight Zone episode because I was starting to think, wait a minute, what's happening?
And I kind of like Well, let me give this to you.
I'm an electronics kind of person, sir.
And there's a real magic about feedback.
Feedback is a really interesting thing to study.
Electronic feedback, or the kind of feedback you get from particularly multiple mirror reflections.
It's a feedback loop.
They're really fascinating things to study, and that's what you were doing.
You were sitting there receiving feedback.
So, we need to look into this.
Anyway, anything else?
Well, one other time when I was here by myself, I sometimes like to play music.
I'm an avid music listener.
I like the music you play on your show, and I was listening to Dusty Springfield after she passed away.
Yes.
Like a lot of her songs and I was singing along to the songs and as I looked into the mirror for a moment there I saw like images of people walking in and out of rooms.
In and out of rooms?
Going from my living room into the kitchen.
Yes.
And I was thinking, I don't know how that happened.
For a split second it looked like I was in the presence of other people in my home but I was here by myself.
You were probably looking at another time.
It was really weird, because I had all the lights turned off.
I used to like to listen to music, and sometimes if I'm into the song, I'll start singing along with it.
Sure.
Because I think my voice is of a high caliber that I can sing pretty... Well, if you turn the music up, your voice reaches a higher caliber the more you turn up the stereo.
Right.
I had it out loud, and I had the candles on, and it was dark, and it was kind of like in memory of Dusty Springer, because she had passed away.
And I started to, I didn't want to look at the mirror, but when I glanced over it and I noticed there was like a woman walking from my living room into the kitchen.
And then I saw some, like a man, like an elderly man going from my bedroom, because it's all facing down the hallway.
Right.
Into, like coming toward the living room.
Once I saw that, like I didn't want to see it and it just split.
It just, for a couple seconds it was there and then it was gone.
Wow.
If I were you, I would... I don't know if I would, but I'd be tempted to try the experiment again, since you obviously still have the mirrors.
We've obviously stumbled into something, and if you would like to fire off an email to me on the subject of mirrors, I would be very interested.
As I said, the subject of feedback Feedback loops, oscillations, it's all really really interesting and it's all intertwined with these mirror experiences that people are having.
Mirrors have been a source of mystic wonderment ever since we've had them and there's a reason for that.
It's not for nothing.
Mirrors are Producing a kind of a feedback that can have effects that I think cross time every now and then.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hi, this is Debbie from Kingston, Washington.
Well, hello, Debbie.
Hello.
I wanted to talk about mirrors, too.
The young man had some really interesting... Oh, I knew it.
Here we go.
Okay, sure.
He had some really interesting things to say.
Yeah, go right ahead.
Well, what I have found out about doing the mirrors, I do Where I look in a mirror to see past lives.
You can see past lives?
Yes.
And the first time it happened, of course, it scared me to death.
But you put a light off to the side and just look past your eyes and you will get visions of past lives.
And it's very interesting.
It has, I keep saying it, it has something to do with the feedback that goes on with the mirror image.
Definitely.
And if there are two mirrors, it may be multiplied.
I'm telling you, there's something to this.
Yes, I'd like to try the two mirrors.
Actually, I guess you're telling me.
I have never experienced it, but it's tempting to try now.
Yes, but it'll scare you the first time, when your face shifts to a totally different person.
Uh, that would be hard to get through without screaming and running.
Yes.
Well, I think that's about what I did the first time.
Oh, you did scream and run.
Well, not scream.
Well, anyway.
The minute it scares you, though, you lose it.
You were looking at your own face, which then morphed into a completely different face?
Yes.
The first one was, I looked Asian with a mustache.
Man.
Wow!
Yeah, it was very interesting.
Gee, you have gone through some changes.
Yes, many changes.
Why do you necessarily interpret this as past lives?
Because I have been working with past lives.
I've done a couple of regressions in hypnosis and I work with energy and we do a lot of past life work because past lives do sometimes affect our life in this in this life. Well do you know
I hate to even mention this to you. There are people who do are doing work with mirrors, hard scientific work
in terms of contacting the dead.
So I'm not saying that it was not past lives that you were seeing but it may be that your mindset
because you were working in that area naturalist you know made
made your brain say to yourself hey past lives But maybe that wasn't it.
Well...
Maybe, but I like to think that's what I'm working on.
Exactly.
Well, I understand.
Thank you.
Listen, I'm out of time.
The show is over.
We're just way out of time, so say goodnight to everybody.
Goodnight, everyone.
That's the way to do it.
Goodnight.
We're going to pick up on this topic, obviously.
We've just rolled into something else.
Anybody else with mirror stories?
Feedback loops?
Powerful stuff, folks.
I'm Art Bell, from the high deserts.
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