Brendan Cook and Barbara McBeath of the Ghost Investigators Society discuss EVPs—voices from the dead captured on fresh tapes, like a child’s "am I dead?" at 1 a.m. or a distressed plea "find my dad" in cemeteries, debunking cell phones/CB interference. Their 2002 recordings reveal spirits tied to identities (e.g., a bordello ghost’s sinful past) or humor (pipes rattling on command). Prioritizing haunted sites over Ground Zero, they share physical encounters—long fingers gripping arms, hair lifted—and speculate on lingering consciousness. Over 150 EVPs on ghostpicspix.com suggest the dead may retain memories, emotions, and even mischief, leaving listeners to question whether spirits are truly gone or just waiting to be heard. [Automatically generated summary]
From the high desert in the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening, good morning, good afternoon, wherever you may be in the world covered by this program, all 24-time zones, the program Coast to Coast AM, and I'm Art Bell.
Glad to be here.
It's going to be a very, very, very interesting night in more ways than one.
First, I'd like to welcome a brand new affiliate, yes, yet another one, WTKS in Savannah, Georgia.
That's a good place, Savannah, Georgia.
1290 on the Nile.
And I'd like to thank the general manager there, Jerry Stevens, and the P.D. Shea Singleton.
Great to be on the air in Savannah.
And I hope you enjoy it when you find out truly how weird it is.
I'm Mark Bell.
Now, our website is approaching a landmark, I'm sure never in my lifetime, to be repeated figure, of 100 million visitors.
And it's, you know, the best thing I can do, we're going to give away some prizes, just simple little prizes.
Let me see here.
Just let me read you what Keith wrote because he put it so well and it will help you understand what's about to happen.
Keith wrote, so we're coming up on the 100 millionth visitor to the site.
Quite an accomplishment for the record.
The current counter was started at zero in January of 1997.
While the website did exist before then, I never carried forward the hits from previous incarnations of the site.
Only when I was able to write an accurate counter, accurate in capital letters, did I keep track of it.
When Art Bell came out of retirement, I reset the counter back to what it was when he left, thereby removing any hits during the Siegel era.
a prize has been donated bob cranes the green company has offered a brand new cc radio to the 100 100 millionth visitor.
So they get a CC radio.
Another prize has been donated by Mark Easter of Easter Films, who will gladly send a complimentary copy of Roswell, The Naked Truth Revealed, autographed by himself.
Ramona and myself, I think, are going to add, I should put in here, that we'll send out an autographed KNYE t-shirt.
We don't ever normally, of course, send those outside of the area for obvious reasons.
Therefore, people who listen to KNYE in the local area, but we'll make an exception here and send out an autographed, we'll both autograph a t-shirt and send it to the winner too.
So that's the bones that we are tossing to number 100 million.
Also, we may actually hide the counter from view on the page when it approaches the 100 million mark so you can't snipe it.
We want all visitors to have an equal shot at being the winner.
The website will still count the visit in our log files, but may not display on the site.
Remember, we did this also with our 66 millionth, 666, 666 count when we froze it but kept track of all the ongoing hints in the background.
So if you see approaching 100 million on the page, you'll know why.
It's been up there actually for the last half hour or so, or hour.
Also keep in mind, if you're sitting there just pressing refresh over and over, you probably will miss the right screen and go right by it.
Then you'll not get the information to report back to us.
In other words, the winner is going to get a special screen.
And you're going to know it's you, but if you're sitting there hitting refresh, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, you might go right by it.
You might have been the 100 millionth visitor and have gone right by it.
So it could be missed.
In fact, if we determine that you were abusing our server by repeatedly attacking our homepage, we will disqualify you.
We do log all accesses and have already blocked several who have started to cheat.
So it's okay to come back, obviously, every few minutes or so and check the site, see if you can win.
That's okay with me.
But those who jam the F5 key and submit 10 hits per second are not going to win.
Let's have fun, but not irritate the system administrators.
Now for some of the rules we need to deal with.
So that you all know what's going on here, so it's fair.
Due to the many varied methods of web traffic, proxies, caches, and so forth, we may not have any winner or may have several.
An automated search engine spider program might be the winner.
Or if the 100 millionth website page it is cached in a proxy server, many people may see the 100 millionth page.
In the case of many hits, the first one to follow the instructions and contact us will be the winner.
In case no real human gets the correct page, I will reset the trigger to look for another specific count and will do so until we get a winner.
It'll have to be close enough.
The web is a complicated beast.
Okay, so that's it.
If you think any more rules or issues that we have to deal with, I'll add them here.
Good luck, Keith Webmaster, for the greatest website in radio.
Well, we are that.
We certainly are that.
So I think Keith is going to unleash the counter very shortly here, and we'll just all watch it.
It's probably going to happen tonight.
So I'm going to watch the counter myself and see when it begins again.
And we'll see who wins.
Remember now, you're going to get a special screen, just the 100 millionth person or the first one to report they've got it with a code word and all kinds of things.
So don't sit there hitting refresh again and again and again faster than you could stop because you're just, you know, you might blow right by it, and that would be something to blow by.
So anyway, coming up on 100 million.
Now, I'm going to do something tonight that I don't frequently do.
In fact, actually, I've never done it.
A detective called me, and because I have so many of you who are in trucks out there, truckers, and this is so serious, I am going to read the entire message from this detective.
Allow me to give you a brief history of what has happened.
On 210-02, Christopher Fagan, pronounced F-E-G-A-N-Fagan, I guess, violated a temporary protection order stalking his girlfriend.
The suspect went to her parents' house where she was staying and broke into the house.
The suspect shot the girl's mother in the shoulder and fought with her stepfather.
The stepfather died of knife wounds to the neck he received during the fight.
The mother was tracked down in the house and shot again in the back of the head while she was on the phone with 911 dispatch.
The suspect fled the area and was last seen in Truckee, California on the 10th.
The FBI helped secure a small teaser at the beginning of America's Most Wanted, which aired 3902.
From this five-second teaser, we learned the suspect had traveled to Mobile, Alabama.
The case probably isn't sexy in quotes enough for much more on the program at this time.
The suspect has since left Mobile and is suspected of several crimes in that area.
It is our belief he has traveled to Florida and is blending in with the spring break crowds.
All of this could no longer be true and it could be somewhere else, of course.
Going on, I believe the suspect traveled to the southeast via Interstate 10 from California.
The suspect is believed to have used truckers for transportation.
Several trucking-related websites have assisted and posted safety notices on their sites.
Trucking-related radio programs are airing safety information about the suspect.
They are the ones who suggested contacting you, meaning me, for assistance.
My request of you is, on your program, will you let the truckers and late-night travelers please know about this suspect?
He is still armed, considered dangerous.
The handgun he used to commit the attempted homicide of the girl's mother, yes, she is still alive and doing pretty well, is thought to have been sold or perhaps traded.
We know he has another handgun that he stole from the subject in Alabama.
I know about the close relationship you have with the Nye County Sheriff's Office, and I don't wish to impose, I don't want to turn your radio program into a radio version of America's Most Wanted.
Obviously, this detective wants the word out to you truckers, so I think it's serious enough that I'm doing this.
I've included the Las Vegas FBI link to the wanted poster for Fagan as well.
Some additional information, not on the poster.
Also have included a 24-hour phone number where I may be contacted.
And I will not give out other numbers that I have here.
So here we go.
If you're a trucker, please listen closely.
The suspect was last seen in Mobile, Alabama, Friday, March 8th.
Suspect is believed to be hitchhiking.
May have come from Southern California via Chanda, Alabama.
Suspect is considered armed and dangerous.
The suspect is a heavy drinker and gambler.
He changes his appearance with little trouble.
The suspect is an avid snowboarder and often speaks of it to date.
He's used various names, including Jack Johnson, Jack Jackson, Christopher Allen, Alan Fagan, and J.J. Any information, contact the FBI office or a law enforcement agency nearest you.
So we've got Christopher A. Fagan, age 23, white male American, height 6 feet, weight 180, hair brown, bleached white, but now cut short, and dark brown hair is visible.
Suspect's hair color changes easily.
His eyes are blue.
Suspect killed one.
Second victim is stable now.
Suspect is known to have had at least one .357 caliber revolver in his possession.
The weapon may have been sold or traded, but another weapon is now thought to be in his possession.
Suspect is an avid snowboarder and has instructed at several local ski areas and talks about snowboarding.
Obviously, contact local law enforcement or the Douglas County Sheriff's Department.
Obviously, with as many truckers as listen to this program, I wanted to be Doug.
I'm sure you heard about this very, very, very dangerous situation for you out there on the road.
We'll be right back.
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If this was up to you, would you go back to the moon or would you go straight to Mars?
We're only counting, and by the way, to give you an idea of the magnitude of hitting 100 million, take into account what Keith had to say about what he actually removed during the period of time I was gone.
And keep in mind the fact that we only count main page hits.
We're not counting pits to hits to auxiliary pages, but main page hits only.
So these numbers really are astronomical.
100 million is astronomical.
Let me see.
It's going berserk up there right now, and I'm having a hard time getting a return from the main page myself.
So many people are hitting it.
In fact, now, wouldn't that be a kick if we, oh, here it comes.
I was going to say if we totally clobber the server just before we get to 100 million, that would be something.
It still has not completely reloaded.
It's being hit so hard.
Hear me out there.
If you sit there hitting reload, reload, reload, you're going to miss it.
Then you've got a high chance of really missing it altogether.
I mean, you'll see a flash of the magic screen and it'll be gone.
You will have missed it.
I can't even get the page to reload right now.
Maybe we'll die before we get to 100 million.
The servers will go because I can't get it to reload right now.
That's how many people are hitting it.
And of course, it was 5,000 in about two minutes.
And I've got real fast internet here, so it's the server that's having a hard time coming back.
Oh, my.
Well, let me see.
Can I even get it to reload?
My God, there must be a lot of people hitting that server.
So even our bandwidth is 100 gig.
I mean, we've got more bandwidth than nearly any other site you can imagine.
We've just got a gigantic pipeline, but obviously it has stopped.
So we're going to all just have to watch it very carefully.
Well, let's see.
The real scary news.
Oh, we've got a scary program coming up tonight.
The GIS people are here, and you know what they do, right?
They record the voices of the dead.
And these are the voices of the dead.
It is an eerie, weird, bizarre show to listen to.
But this organization, which is beyond reproach, you know, they don't accept money.
They're not selling anything.
They go into graveyards and, you know, into all kinds of interesting places.
And they take these tape recorders with brand new tapes.
I mean, there's a certain set of rules to what they do.
And they record the voices of the dead.
EVP is a well-known phenomenon.
It's been around for probably as many years as I have.
There were researchers before these researchers.
But these researchers are very, very serious about what they do.
And what you will hear is chilling, interesting.
It's kind of almost an extension of what we're doing this week in a way.
And, you know, Friday night, this Friday, I'm going to do a Ghost to Ghost AM show.
I decided Ghost to Ghost is going to be this Friday.
What is today anyway?
Wednesday, right?
Thursday in some places.
And so we're going to do Ghost to Ghost.
And it's a very serious ghost show we do.
And I think it's probably appropriate that we do it with the news of the week and the way the week has gone so far.
What an absolutely fascinating program, both Monday night and Tuesday night as well.
Schwartz, you know, when you add up, when you add up what Dr. Schwartz said last night, if you really listened, really has to affect your thinking about the fact that there are ghosts, that all of this is not tomfoolery, that it's absolutely, totally, completely real.
And the reason it's real is because there is life after death.
There absolutely is life after death.
You know, I think last night show nailed that one to the wall.
all right sometime during the program tonight somebody will go put the parts back together at the server location wherever that is and get back up on the web yep a network error occurred that's the message i'm getting so at this point uh unless it happened and it could have happened you know uh before it went belly up although i don't think it did so i was looking for the 5,000
mark as I just re-clicked then well so who knows anyway that's story folks we broke our own servers in an attempt to get to 100 million we'll get there sometime tonight make no mistake about that from the high desert I'm Art Bell and this is Coast to Coast AM We'll build over 100 million as soon as we get it fixed.
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You're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time on Premier Radio Networks.
Tonight's an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from April 3rd, 2002.
Come walk me, run it down the dead way Jenny will see the smile for the people she meets.
on trouble Music through the blue.
I know when it gets to you.
You're listening to Arkbell somewhere in time, tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from April 3rd, 2002.
Okay, that's Mark Ziwi of Madeira, California, the 100 millionth visitor.
So when he gets his screen up there, we'll put it up for you.
That's really pretty cool.
100 million hits.
100 million hits.
Okay, news of the day, such as it is, Israeli texts rolling all over the West Bank.
They're in Nablus now, as a matter of fact.
In fact, they were at the point where Jesus was born.
I was there.
And as you stand there and you look across the street, there's a big picture of Yasser Arafat graffitied upon the wall on the other side in Bethlehem.
And so all of that's kind of hard to imagine.
And where this is headed, I don't know.
I really don't know.
This could be headed to a full-fledged war.
Or Israel could continue to act for the next week or two.
Behind the scenes, it may well be that George Bush has told the Israelis, look, go clean up what you can clean up in a week or two, and then this has to stop.
I don't know.
This is the way things get out of hand.
Now, I would think that would be the private arrangement, probably.
In other words, what's Bush to do?
He's looking at these suicide bombers, and he's probably telling Israel, look, we understand your right to self-defense.
Go clean them out as best you can, but this can't be allowed to become World War III.
I think that's kind of how you'd put it, don't you?
Each side, of course, accusing the other of blocking the way to peace.
And Israel saying it will not stop moving until the suicide bombings are halted.
Getting worse.
So, oh, listen, one of the 300 prisoners the U.S. military is holding in Cuba is now saying that he was born in Louisiana to Saudi parents.
And he's an American.
The claim, should it be true, could lead to his transfer to the detention center at a Navy base.
That would make a whole different deal if he's a U.S. citizen.
So that's kind of what's going on.
You know, the market down again, down close.
Oh, my God, 115 points down to 10,180, 198.
NASDAQ down 20.
There are comets coming.
On March 18th, just as newly found comet Ikiwazung was making its closest approach to the sun and wowing observers around the northern hemisphere, I don't know if you've seen the photos yet, yet another Japanese observer discovered yet another new comet.
The second comet has an outside chance of also becoming visible to the unaided eye sometime later this month.
The International Astronomical Union reported on March 20th the discovery of a comet in Twilight.
This Japanese man made his findings using a 25 by 150 binocular.
Initially, it described the comet as a 10th magnitude glow in the constellation Pegasus.
Several days later, a preliminary orbit for the newly named comet indicated that it would reach its closest approach to the sun on April 23rd.
So the comets, boss, the comets, they coming.
Yet another comet on the way.
A lot of people see a lot of things in times when you get a lot of comets.
Comets portend interesting change.
I've got so much, obviously, because of what we did tonight.
Didn't have time to properly lay out the first hour.
I thought I'd read this to you, though.
Interesting, dear art, short.
It's good and short.
I haven't yet heard you mention this, but did you know that on Paul Harvey's Saturday broadcast, he reported the discovery of warps in space and another dimension.
Same things we've heard about on your show for years now.
He said that within three years, and he repeated three years, we would all be forced to change our ideas about space and the way it works.
I was rather astounded to hear this from such a mainstream journalist and such a respected one at that, Bev and Eugene.
Thanks, Bev.
Yes, well, through the years, the listeners who have been listeners to this program for a decade or better know that that has been consistently true throughout my tenure.
That what you have heard here, many times sounding wacky and very much like science fiction at the time you hear it, later proves to be absolutely true.
And I could count, oh my, I could count many, many things in the area of the paranormal that all of a sudden, or even during my tenure, and that's a short one relatively, relative to everything else, right?
A decade, 15 years, whatever, that's not long.
Maybe a decade of doing this kind of show.
In that period of time, how many things have become reality that were virtually just science fiction prior to that?
Again, congratulations to our 100 millionth visitor, Mark Ziwi of Madera, California.
And we're going to have the evidence of the screenshot up there shortly, who was the exact 100 millionth visitor to the site, by the way.
We're now 35,000 over that mark.
That was absolutely wild.
We even know who the 1 millionth and 1 visitor was.
It's Dave from Des Moines, Arla.
and I won't identify him any further than that, but we do know who the next one was.
But the lucky one who got the codename Kate.
You see, I didn't make that up.
I didn't know what the code name was.
Keith came up with it.
The code name was Phaedra.
Phaedra, that very unlucky Greek goddess, but very, very lucky for Martiwi.
That's incredible.
All right, we are about to enter, in more ways than one, a very, really different world.
The world of electronic voice phenomena.
Now, electronic voice phenomena has been around, well, held, basically, since Edison, I guess.
I think there was rumors of that.
Anyway, I'm having on the Ghost Investigators Society, Brennan Cook, Barbara Macbeth, represent the society here on the air.
There are two or five members at our GIS.
Society is a non-profit.
They don't sell anything.
The GIS members have spent thousands of hours and dollars dedicated to researching the ghost phenomena.
They realize EVP is one of the most controversial aspects of ghost research and that there are many speculations and theories about the spectral voices that have been recorded on audio and videotape.
The GIS members believe the voices they have recorded are the voices of the dead.
Most of the time, these voices interact and respond to the members that record them.
In an effort to educate the public about ghosts, the GIS hopes the EVPs presented will help demonstrate that the consciousness that we all have does survive after the body dies and that these voices may help to give a different perspective about life death and ghosts indeed we've been getting that perspective this week and I will continue the tradition this Friday we will do a full pledged ghost to ghost program
That means ghost stories from all of you.
And as I told my guest last night, they aren't real hard to get.
Now, of course, you've got to go for the good ones, and so I'm going to be going for the very best ghost stories.
It's one of those times when I actually do to some degree personally screen calls.
Because we want the very best.
There are so many out there.
I think for me, as I mentioned to my guest last night, the threshold regarding the existence or the continuance of consciousness, for me, has been passed.
And so then what you're obviously about to hear tonight is, if you've been tracking with me, unnerving, scary.
So in a sense, it's hopeful, depending on your attitude about continuing.
I don't know how you feel about that.
There are people out there who just hope for nothing more than the great eternal blackness, the eternal slice of death.
But it doesn't look like that's what it's all about.
So this is what we're going to be talking about tonight.
What you're going to hear is going to be a little frightening.
At one point, there's going to be some pretty bad language used.
And so I'll caution any of you.
You know, we're on at the hour where we can let this go in context, and it certainly is context.
The EVP, in this case, utters a four-letter word, and I'm going to let it go.
So if you have children around, you might want to get them out of the room.
That will be later in the show anyway, and it will be in the middle of the night in almost every area of the country.
And we've done that.
We've asked about it, you know, frequently before, and this language is used apparently on the other side.
So it's fascinating.
Coming right up, if you will just simply not move, what you might want to do, turn the lights down a little bit, turn the lights down low, turn the radio up a little bit, because what you're about to hear is going to astound you.
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I think now, as we look back, we can probably say with pretty good certainty that some people in government might have been aware of what was going on and they turned their cheek the other way just to let it happen.
I also believe that some bigger groups got involved with Al-Qaeda to do what they did on that horrible day.
This wasn't just a small group of people who came in and did their thing.
There was a much bigger picture there.
And if you see the events that have unfolded since this tragedy occurred, how we've lost rights, how we used it to go into Afghanistan and Iraq, and how it has really not stopped because it's going to continue.
We're going to have more and more episodes and more and more involvement in other countries.
And just mark my word, this planet is going through an incredible change.
And thank God we've got you here to talk with us about it.
Now we take you back to the night of April 3rd, 2002, on Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
I'm sure, like him, I will back away from it and start to doubt again.
But I'm suddenly over this threshold where I think I'm becoming really convinced that we do continue.
So, tonight's program sort of fits, you know, right into that.
Yeah.
apparently seemingly have evidence of voices from the other side let's tell everybody because I know there's going to be a few new people out there how EVP they give me what history you can of EVP and tell me technically how it is gathered, please.
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All right.
Well, to start off, EVP stands for Electronic Voice Phenomena.
It has literally been around since Edison, as you mentioned before.
He was actually working on a machine that he was hoping would contact the dead, almost in the same way our tape recorders are doing it now.
Unfortunately, he did die before that, and nobody has any blueprints to the machine that he was working on.
Since then, there's been Radave was one of the most well-known people that's studied it.
He wrote a book called Breakthrough that I've heard it's just amazing.
He claimed that he would get his friends' voices that passed on.
Is there any record of how these people were affected by what they heard?
You know, if they began to actually believe that they were hearing from the other side, maybe there wouldn't be any record of that, of how it hit them.
I know that he thought that it was a phenomena, but he never publicly, if I recall correctly, he did not ever publicly acknowledge that they were voices of the dead.
Let's for a second explore the thought that, okay, look, I believe it's a real phenomena.
There is absolutely no question about it.
I also now believe that consciousness continues, so that adds to the equation a little bit.
But what are the other possibilities?
If these are not voices of the dead, then what are they?
What could they be?
What are the other options, if there are any?
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You know, we've heard, I mean, countless numbers of suggestions as to what we're recording, from cell phone transmissions to CB radios to pre-recorded tapes that we're recording over, which, as we mentioned on every show we've done with you, that's our number one thing that we do not do.
Since you don't sell anything, and since you have never asked the audience for anything, you haven't written books, you haven't, there's no enumeration.
In fact, it costs you money to do all of this.
Of course, that adds incredibly, from my point of view and many others, to your credibility.
But I guess costing you money and costing you time, everybody would like to know, why the heck do you do this?
But for some reason, my concept of consciousness surviving physical death is, you know, the physical body rots away, worms crawl in, worms crawl out, and the consciousness, as was explained by my distinguished guest last night, continues in a stream just as surely as the light from the stars that we see continues in a stream.
An elegant explanation of how it all occurs, I thought.
And interaction back this way, yes indeed, he said, certainly would be possible for an organized system.
It was quite elegant what he had to say about all of this last night.
Quite convincing.
But somehow, you two, it's worried me a lot that these dead entities, consciousnesses, whatever you want to call them, will associate with their old rotting Or perhaps even a burned physical body.
That part I don't like.
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There are some religions, Art, and we've brought this up before.
They believe that once you die for a certain period of time, you stay by your body.
They believe that the body might be resurrected, and they're supposed to stay by their body until that happens.
that you remain by your body for a period of time until you note that nothing is going to happen or are you required to remain there for some sort of purgatory period of time?
Another point, too, that's been brought up to us is this area of land where we get these voices, it might not have anything to do with the cemetery, although I personally don't believe that.
But it could have been something that took place 100 or 200 years ago on that property.
And I take it that you two have been in enough diverse locations to know that graveyards, as a general rule, just as a general rule, are better places to capture more EVP, yes?
That's probably one of our biggest obstacles is gaining access to locations and being able to conduct an investigation and use all of our equipment gaining access to a place that has reported haunting activities.
Now, I want to talk to you about something tonight that you and I have talked about before, and somebody's going to provide this for you, but it would be possible to build a recorder just like the one you have, except modify it so that it would have a record head,
and then there would be a period of tape that would go through some mechanism, and it would have a playback head, so that you could actually listen in a set of headphones, and a few seconds after a ghost would say something, you would hear it.
Now, as it is now, you have to go home and sort of listen for hours and hours and decipher these EVPs and hear what was said and sort of bring it to us on the show, as we're going to hear in a few minutes tonight.
But if you had this special mechanism, this special tape recorder, it would be perhaps possible to have an ongoing conversation with a spirit.
Has that sunk in yet?
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We are looking into having one built right now.
We're looking at a couple people and just seeing what it'll cost us to have it done.
And I hope that you can come up with the right combination because you do understand the promise of a device of that sort with what you're doing, right?
This is such a cool way to have gotten our winner.
Mike Zeewi of Madeira, California was the 100 millionth visitor to our website, and we now have the proof.
So if you want to go to my website, nowartbell.com, let's see.
The first under What's New, it says 100 millionth visitor winner.
Click on that, and when you do, you will see a list of the prizes that he gets.
And then if you go on down, you will see here are two screen displays.
One shows the 100 millionth counter, and the second shows, in other words, actually, he took us, oh, that's cool.
He took a picture, a digital picture of his screen.
And you can see it says 100 million even.
That is so cool.
And he sent us the picture of the 100 millionth screen itself.
And then below it, there was a special pop-up screen.
And it's hard to read.
It says 100 millionth.
No.
What does it say?
Well, if you want to know, you can see the actual picture of the pop-up screen.
And then the actual, if you click on the point where it says, let's see, what does it say?
It says, here is the actual pop-up page that came up.
And it says 100 million.
You are the 100 millionth visitor to the Art Bell website.
For verification purposes, you need to email webmaster at artbell.com with the following information.
The date and time that you hit the site and got this message.
Your ISP and your IP number, if you know it.
The secret password of Phaedra.
That's P-H-A-E-D-R-A.
And then contact information address and phone number.
You may want to print this screen, and then you can click on this link to close the window.
That's what the special pop-up screen said.
And he's got pictures of both the actual screen with $100 million on it and the pop-up screen.
And then you can read below that what the pop-up screen actually says, because it's a little difficult to read having taken a digital photograph of it.
But our winner, Mike Zeewee, provided all the proof in the world, and we've got it up on the website right now.
He was indeed, is indeed, forevermore, the 100 millionth visitor to the website.
Incredible.
will be right back and we're about to enter a different world uh...
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Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from April 3rd, 2002.
Coast to Coast AM Well, all right, here we go, and I urge you now to sort of strap yourself in because what you're going to hear is going to be perhaps disturbing.
Maybe you will laugh at it, and maybe it'll be a nervous laugh.
Maybe you will contemplate what you're going to hear.
Maybe you won't be sure of what you're going to hear.
We're only sure of the strict method used in gathering what you're going to hear.
Could it be something other than the voices of the dead?
It's possible, but I don't think it's very likely.
And you'll hear, we're playing a couple clips on the show tonight from her house, and she kind of describes some of the things that have happened to her.
This clip, you'll hear her say, I had a friend who came in here and said she saw a dog in here.
Of course, there was no dog there.
As I said before, she has seen children in there.
The children, she claimed, would wake her up.
She also believed there was a ghost of a cat there.
We were sitting in our car in our cemetery recording, and you'll hear me say, and just sitting there having to key, and then this voice breaks in, but I can't tell you what it says.
We'll have everybody listen for what it is that said that is apparently non-English, and I'll watch my fast blast, and somebody will blast it to me, no doubt.
Now, did you, is it worth, for example, when you get something like this in another language, then going back to the graveyard and looking for clues on the headstones to see if, you know, it might have been a person of foreign heritage or extraction or something like that?
Have you ever traced a voice, I would imagine, for example, in a single-family residence where they think they know who the ghost is, and you get a recording, you could be fairly sure of the person it is who's passed on that you are recording, correct?
You know, we hear, gosh, we hear all these stories that when you pass and you're dead relatives, you find those who have passed on before you, and you don't have to go looking for them, and you don't have to be sad because they are just there.
I mean, that's what you go to the light, and there they are, right?
In which his wife, I think if I recall correctly, committed suicide.
And she had gone to hell, and he actually proceeded to hell to find her.
And so I'm not saying that that's what this situation is, but if one of your loved ones is not in the light, not to be found, then I suppose that's one of the things one could speculate about, eh?
I think that's why it's so important to how you think and the kind of person you are to be the best and kindest person you can be here while you're alive.
God, how prophetic that Phaedra was the word that Keith chose.
I had no idea, by the way, what Keith was going to do.
None whatsoever.
He chose that word, Phaedra, the unlucky Greek goddess.
But awfully lucky for Mark Zeewe, the 100 millionth visitor to the website, he's got proof.
He was smart enough to take digital pictures of his monitor.
It's all right there, so you can go look at it on the website right now.
Congratulations, Mark.
I'm Art Bell.
In a moment we move back to the other side.
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If this was up to you, would you go back to the moon or would you go straight to Mars?
And the first voice is going to say, come here, almost like she's saying, you know, to another ghost, come here and listen to what this lady is saying.
Have you ever recorded anything that said to you, in essence, that a spirit knew that it was trapped or in the wrong place or obviously not where it ought to be?
This EVP, we've had it on our website, and some of your listeners might have heard this before, but we thought that there are some people out there that do not have computers, and so we put in a few of them so that people that don't have computers can hear these.
We were in a cemetery, me and my husband, and we were in a convertible, a little blue Carmen Guilla, and the top was down, and we were waiting for Brendan and Jenny to show up.
And I was driving the car, and you will hear Roger say, sit and wait there.
And this EVP repeats what he says, word for word, sit and wait there.
It's kind of a creepy voice, and then there's a sound that sounds like a heavy breath after that.
Why would there be a decrepit old woman on the other side?
In other words, surely you don't show up in the depleted, wrinkled, old, aged, mind-boggled, and fuzzied condition that you die in.
I mean, that's just too much to believe.
And so why then would we even ever get a decrepit old lady?
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That's true.
However, now say she was older when she passed away.
Now when she goes on to the other side, that's how she's going to remember herself.
I mean, it's possible that she may remember herself being younger, but it's going to more than likely be easier to remember herself as being the way she was when she passed away.
Yeah, but if her voice sounds like that on the other side, then why shouldn't we imagine that other aspects of her are the same on the other side as well?
To her, and that's the only one that matters to, I suppose.
Now, let me ask you this, just before we play this.
Your exposure on this program, pretty big.
Do you now find that as a result of the exposure that you get invited into more places or that it's a little easier for you on occasion because they know who you are?
The lady in the house who's leading the GIS members in this investigation and showing them through the house has made the comment about how the room is always cold, doesn't like it in there, has nightmares, and there's an obvious response.
Now this really gets to be a problem because not only do we have a child's voice, but we have what appears to be, if it's in the context, but it certainly appears to be, and the context seems very clear, we have a malevolence from a child's voice.
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The lady from this residence had always mentioned to us that the majority of this activity happened when she was asleep, and it would either wake her up or she'd have nightmares about it.
And I wonder if that was almost a way that it was easier for the spirits there to contact her that way.
This one was recorded by Jenny, and they were conducting an investigation at an old jail that is now part of a hotel complex that's around it, and the people eat in the jail cells.
And me and Roger were not at this location at this time.
And you will hear Ginny say, will you tell us your name?
Is there any question in your mind that that is what you're hearing and that that is absolutely direct interaction?
Do you understand how important it is, folks, that they have this delay unit so they can record and then a few seconds later hear any electronic voice that comes to them that would enable them to engage in an immediate ongoing conversation?
If this EVP is real stuff, then that certainly should follow, that you would occasionally get an ongoing conversation.
There would be perhaps whatever seconds of delay between the record and the playback head, but still, that would be basically an ongoing conversation.
One more time, listen to the voice answering with his name.
I'm trying to think of how we're going to handle this next one.
And I tell you, instead of specifically...
Since a lot of this is subjective, if anybody ever comes back to me and says you shouldn't have let that go on the air, I'll say, well, you know, it's subjective.
Who knows what you heard, right?
So we're going to hear, first of all, where was this, please?
As always, need to know where.
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Well, this was in the cemetery, and it's a cemetery.
It's an older pioneer cemetery.
And we had seen a ghost light in this cemetery earlier.
And in this clip, what you'll hear is GIS member Jenny, who recorded this, say, Oh, little light, come on.
Well, here, you know, to me, it was pretty obvious that it was the bad word, one of the bad, seven bad words.
Probably you can only say it this time of the morning.
Actually, you can do that legally.
But I don't do it unless it's in a context.
And this is clearly in a context.
And I'm going to play it again, but I want to ask you, how often, because obviously we don't do this frequently on radio, you don't allow this kind of language, or could be interpreted to be kind of language, that'll keep me on the edge here, to go out over the air.
So how often do you get bad language included in EVPs?
We're going to break here at the top of the hour, and when we come back, we've got more EVPs, and I will try and get you on the phone with these two GIS members.
I'm Art Bell.
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He was in a bag, but he was way behind.
He was willing to make a deal when he came across this young man sewing on a fiddle and playing it hot.
And the devil jumped up on a hickory stump and said, boy, let me tell you what.
I guess you didn't know it, but I'm a fiddle player too.
And if you'd care to take a dare, I'll make a bet with you.
Now, you play pretty good fiddle, boy, but give the devil his view.
I'll bet a fiddle of gold against your soul because I think I'm better than you.
The boy said, my name's Johnny, and it might be a sin, but I'll take your bet, you're going to regret, because I'm the best it's ever been.
Johnny, risen up your foe and play your fiddle hard.
Cause hell broke loose in Georgia, the devil's human heart.
And if you and you get the shiny little, let'em go.
I can see you lying back in your satin bed In a room where you do what you don't compare Run down, you better take care If I find you've been creeping round my back there Run
down, you better take care If I find you've been creeping round my back there She's been looking like a queen in a favorite dream And she don't always say what she really means Sometimes I think it's a shame When I get feeling
better, when I'm feeling okay Sometimes I think it's a shame When I get feeling better, when I'm feeling okay When I get feeling better, when I'm feeling okay I could picture every move that a man could make, getting lost in another.
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You know, I interviewed Gordon Lightfoot, man, who sings this song.
And he sang about his own life.
I mean, we sat here and talked about it.
This was about a woman he was in love with, ended up cheating on him, I think.
And if you listen to the word song, that's what this is about.
Now, that kind of person with that kind of passion, and Gordon Lightfoot has a lot of passion, man.
It's all in the song.
you just listen to the words and how he housing them that kind of person but would come back in haunt you just So if things don't go away, and the proof seems to be that they do not continue on forever in an organized form, then somebody with that kind of passion would be one who would come back and haunt it.
It's a very interesting interview.
That's another one I'll have to repeat one of these days.
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I think now, as we look back, we can probably say with pretty good certainty that some people in government might have been aware of what was going on and they turned their cheek the other way just to let it happen.
I also believe that some bigger groups got involved with al-Qaeda to do what they did on that horrible day.
This wasn't just a small group of people who came in and did their thing.
There was a much bigger picture there.
And if you see the events that have unfolded since this tragedy occurred, how we've lost rights, how we used it to go into Afghanistan and Iraq, and how it has really not stopped.
Because it's going to continue.
We're going to have more and more episodes and more and more involvement in other countries.
And just mark my word, this planet is going through an incredible change.
And thank God we've got you here to talk with us about it.
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Now, we didn't have time to really discuss what we heard up at the top of the hour, but there was, you know, in the first part of it, there's absolutely no question that you could actually hear the chains rattling, right?
They went on for so long that that was when we asked the maintenance man that was there with us if he had ever heard these pipes do that, because we had never.
saying make the pipes do it now apparently as in talking to another EVP or...
So we might imagine here we've got a couple of ghosties, we'll call them, who are thinking of making trouble or, you know, trying to, I mean, that's one sure sign of haunting, what happens to the pipes, right?
So if there were a couple of ghosts sitting around trying to decide how they were going to cause mischief, they might sound just like this, right?
I mean, I may well be on the other side, and if I'm able to do it, rattling pipes, big footsteps coming up the stairs, that kind of thing, even a door occasionally bowing in, like you see in the movies, you know?
And so if I could do that, I'm just the kind of guy who would do that.
So I have some empathy with that recording I just heard.
That's a good thing.
All right, onward.
Number 15, I believe.
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Okay, well, Art, in this clip, you will, we're in a cemetery, and you will hear a girl say, this girl was with us, she's not an actual member, but she says, have they no respect?
And she's talking about a headstone that had been knocking over by, I guess, teenagers that were going into the cemetery.
This one was recorded in the same cemetery by Jenny, and you will hear Jenny say, I mean I saw it, but, and then this EVP comes in, and it sounds like a child, and it says, do you see my name?
listen again folks one more time or or or or or or or or or or or or or or or or or or or or or And just to be clear on this, the bar was not open at the time we recorded this.
Might we know for the record, on an average, how many hours of EVP, as an average, do you go through, or how many minutes do you go through to get a legible EVP?
Oh, we probably spend 8 to 10 hours a day listening through our tapes, and we will probably get an average of probably 20 out of the tapes that we listen to, but we are not able to use them all for the show.
Well, even that's pretty good for somebody who would like to start out an experiment to expect to get as many as, say, 10 in three days of hard work.
That would be enough to start you thinking if you want to prove this to yourself, and an awful lot of you have, because I get all these emails saying, oh, my God, Art, I tried it and it worked.
Yeah, like I said, the one you played earlier tonight, I think it was the third or fourth one where you said you thought it might be a foreign language.
Yeah, I mean, my Latin's a little fuzzy, but it sounded like they might have said the quati, which to me sounds like a conjugation of a Latin word, which means those who talk.
Oh, really?
Really?
It seems to me that that's the I know it has to do with talking because I know like a novo plator means I can't say anything.
I am sure, you know, they've said it earlier, they'd love to travel.
Travel takes money.
And patience, too, these days.
What about, guys, Gettysburg?
I mean, have you ever been on vacations, had opportunities to go to historic battlegrounds, that kind of thing?
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We have not yet gone to Gettysburg.
We are hopefully going to do that.
As for Ground Zero, we've mentioned this on your show before.
It's something if we ever did it, there'd have to be quite a lot of time that passed.
Just out of curiosity, I know me and a friend, we've really been into the show all night, and I've got recording equipment of my own, a little personal studio.
I was wondering if would any equipment such as a digital 8-track recorder or anything like that work?
You're laying down an electromagnetic track on the tape oddsides is what you're doing.
So what we believe is happening is that these entities are impressing through the use of electromagnetics their voice through the tape head onto the tape.
Now that would not work, or at least we don't know how it would work, with digital equipment.
And I take it you have experimented, certainly, with digital.
I was suggested, if you didn't think of it yourself, what happened?
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Yeah, I have yet to hear a voice come from a digital recorder.
A lot of what people claim are voices from digital recorders is actually like a digital static discharge.
And they sound, I mean, almost kind of demonic and just evil sounding.
One was being holes, like try recording in holes because of that one you've got with like was probably the most crazy thing I've ever heard with like what sounds like hell almost the Siberian one or whatever and uh and uh the other one would be like uh my uh friend of mine lives in a house uh it used to be like a hospital back like from the way way old days I forgot the exact date but and it's proven haunted like we've seen some crazy or like had some crazy experiences
and there it's just been oh man it's weird but I'm thinking like just because of the hospital and many people have died in there and stuff you know it'd be interesting right now we are actually working on securing an investigation in a hospital oh it's going to take some time to figure out how and when we can do it but we are working on doing that an active uh an active hospital no actually it's it's abandoned yeah I was gonna say,
I mean, there are times that we do get EVPs like that, where you get a multitude of voices that, I mean, just obviously aren't the three members of the group that are there.
Well, I'll tell you something that may worry you because it worries me all the time.
When we sit around and we listen to things like this and we discuss things like this, in my opinion, and this is a studied opinion over, you know, 15 years of doing this, you invite the very thing that you're talking about.
And so it makes, by magnitudes, it makes it more likely that something during the period of time you're listening to and thinking about all of this will occur.
And when we're out on investigations, I believe, just in going back over the tapes on the things that we're discussing at the times, most of the time when we get good EVP is when we're discussing what the topic is, the posts.
Well, that clip right there that he's referring to, this over here is where Roger got grabbed, a few nights before that voice was recorded, Roger, GIS member Roger, had felt almost like a woman's hand grab his arm.
I mean it was just, he said it was long bony fingers.
And as I've mentioned before, I was slapped in that same cemetery, just kind of slapped on my wrist.
I've also stood there, Jenny, our other member, she has beautiful long black hair and I watched her hair get lifted up right in the middle of her head in the back.
It lifted up like somebody would lift her hair up.
And I suppose getting your plane fare paid or a place to stay, a hotel or something, wouldn't be unacceptable to the wonderful way you've conducted yourselves.