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Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - Open Lines - Monsters
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Welcome to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from January 25th.
From the high desert in the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening, good morning, good afternoon, whatever the case may be, wherever you are in all 24 time zones, covered by this radio program, Coast to Coast AM, I'm Art Bell.
Oh, we have so much to do tonight.
It's going to be open lines all the way tonight.
Anything at all you want to talk about is fair game.
However, because of the final call I had last night, it really spooked me.
And I asked the gentleman to contact me and he did.
And I've got Ken on the line and he'll be with us here in a bit.
It was the last story told last night.
And I want to hear the whole story.
And actually, from the beginning, because I understand a lot of you would have missed some of it, and we can of course get it now in more detail.
So, what he was describing may not turn out to be, but it sounded to me like, and in fact, what we discussed last night with Mothman and all the rest of it, Mothman really is a monster, isn't he?
Mothman is a monster, and so I thought, I have never opened a monster line.
Therefore, I would ask any of you who have encountered what you would consider to be a monster.
That's a broad category.
Monster is a big category.
If you have ever actually and truly encountered what you would call a monster, then I would like to hear from you tonight as the program progresses.
Now, the news.
Now it's all Enron.
Oh, man, is it Enron.
Well, I hit that one on the head.
So did somebody who predicted at the beginning of the year.
First time I saw an Enron story, I said, oh, man, here it comes.
Clifford Baxter, 43, a former Enron Corporation executive who reportedly complained about the company's questionable accounting practices and resigned last May, was found shot to death in a car today.
An apparent, underline apparent, suicide.
Now the House Energy Commerce Committee had asked To visit with Mr. Baxter, and you know, obviously there's going to be speculation that Mr. Baxter didn't want to visit with them much.
And so he put a gun to his head.
Must be some story here, huh?
The White House today ordered a review of $70 million worth of federal contracts with Enron And the Arthur Anderson accounting firm to determine whether the embattled companies are worthy of government business.
Also today, the U.S.
Comptroller General set new limits on the consulting work that accounting firms can do for any federal agency they audit, or for firms receiving federal money.
Meanwhile, two lawmakers urged the chief of Congress' investigative arm to take the Bush administration to court for refusing to reveal its contacts with the energy industry.
This one seems like it's gigantic, and it seems like it's going all the way to the top, and it seems like it's doing that very, very quickly, so... A gentleman in Bigfork, Montana I mean, everybody out there is struggling to try and grasp and understand the magnitude of what's happened with Enron here.
My God, what's happened?
Well, we don't obviously have those answers yet, but Buck in Big Fork, Montana, tries to help you out here as he writes, understanding Enron's problem.
In case you were wondering how Enron came to be in so much trouble, here's a brief explanation reputedly given by an Aggie professor to explain the whole thing in terms his students could understand.
Capitalism.
Simple.
You have two cows.
You sell one and buy a bull.
Your herd multiplies, the economy grows.
You sell them and retire on the income.
Extremely simplified, right?
And that doesn't explain Enron.
Now, does this explain Enron?
This is Enron Venture Capitalism.
According to Buck, you have two cows.
You sell three of them to your publicly listed company using letters of credit opened by your brother-in-law at the bank.
Then execute a debt equity swap with an associated general offer so you get all four cows back with a tax exemption for five.
The milk rights of the six cows are transferred via an intermediary to a Cayman Island company secretly owned by the majority stockholder who sells the rights to all seven cows back to your listed company.
The annual report says the company owns eight cows, with an option to buy one more.
Now, do you see why a company with $62 billion in assets is declaring bankruptcy?
No, I don't, but it was a hell of a story.
Now, let's see what else is going on.
The Mideast continues to implode.
It looks like President Bush is considering whether he would like to sever ties with Mr. Arafat.
There's a big, uh, bunch of trouble, uh, possibly brewing over there, and the Palestinian Authority is saying that breaking ties with Arafat would be, uh, uh, sort of like, uh, just setting the whole thing off.
You know, using words kind of like that, Meanwhile, the Israeli government sent warplanes to attack Palestinian security installations in the West Bank and Gaza after a Palestinian suicide bomber wounded 24 in a crowd in Tel Aviv.
Nothing ever changes there, but you know, if they exorcise Mr. Arafat from Well, of course, the entire peace... Joke, anyway, peace right over there.
Prospects are going to disappear.
I maintain they never really appeared in the first place.
There was never peace there.
There may never be peace there.
A stem cell has been found, folks, in adults that can turn into every single tissue in the body.
This is an amazing discovery.
Until now, only stem cells from early embryos were thought to have such properties.
Should the finding be confirmed, it's going to mean cells from your own body could one day be turned in all sorts of perfectly matched replacement tissues and even organs.
In other words, they've found a stem cell, they believe, in adults.
Adults!
That will multiply, given the right encouragement, whatever you do to them, into all kinds of replacement stuff for you.
Cloning would become unnecessary.
We wouldn't need to clone, if this is true.
Princeton University says this work is very exciting.
They can apparently differentiate into pretty much everything that an embryonic stem cell can differentiate into.
The cells were found in the bone marrows of adults by a University of Minnesota researcher.
And now, of course, everybody is saying quickly that extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
And a new scientist is reporting on this, but you know, nobody knows for sure whether it's the real deal.
You know, we can certainly hope that it is the real deal.
Right now, they're thinking they really have done it.
Now, let's think about that.
So, any little scraping of you, any scraping of your skin, or perhaps a pulling or plucking one of your hairs out, would give The scientists, all they need to grow you anything you want.
Need a liver?
Hey, one liver on the way.
Need a replacement heart?
One that's really you?
On the way.
Of course, you can imagine the price tag for this is going to be heavy duty.
Need another right leg?
Let's brew one up.
from your own cells from from your own DNA instructions one little tiny stem cell can do all of this is what they're saying absolutely amazing an amazing amazing discovery if true so on this one everybody it would change everything so you should hold your breath And hope that it is true, and then maybe we're not going to be going down the cloning road we thought we were.
Oh, these discoveries, they come very quickly.
Very quickly, don't they?
I'm going to be a little bit more careful.
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you'll find it on coast to coast am with george norrie when you look at what's going on around this planet it's
almost as if someone has got a playbook to try to control all these countries
all of a sudden I've always said that not everything is a conspiracy, but a
lot of it is.
You know, when you start looking into things, there's only certain set of conclusions you can reach,
and unfortunately, this is one of them.
You know, it's very, very hard not to see things like that when you start looking at things in a larger picture.
Now we take you back to the night of January 25th, 2002, on Artvel's Somewhere in Time.
Thanks for watching!
Let us begin where we left off last night.
The story was getting so interesting that I asked the gentleman last night, that would be Ken, to email me and give me some contact information, and he did.
And so here is my last caller from last night, Ken.
Hello, Ken.
Hi, Art.
How are you tonight?
I'm all right.
I'm really happy you decided to come back on with me tonight.
I appreciate you taking the time to do that.
No problem.
Let us begin, as we did last night.
You have the luxury now of a little more time, and you can tell us in a little more detail exactly what happened.
Exactly what happened?
Yes, sir.
Okay.
Well, New Year's Eve of 2000, we moved into this house.
Where are you, Ken?
I'm out of Portland, Oregon.
The house that we moved into was built in 1910, so it's a fairly old home.
From day one, Sherry, my girlfriend, something about the place wasn't right to her.
She just felt that there was something that was off there.
Was this a fixer-upper, that kind of deal?
It was through a friend that they weren't going to rent it but I needed a place and they said sure.
It had been sitting vacant for like six months I guess.
Later we came to find out that the gal that lived there before just up and left.
The way you ultimately had to?
And since then, we've found out some other stuff, too.
Okay, but let's not jump ahead.
Go to the beginning.
You moved into the house, lucky to get in.
Sherry didn't much like it.
But, you know, a little work and fix it up some, you know, it might come around, you know, feel a little better.
Right.
Well, she's kind of, like, she's able to really pick up on stuff.
You know, see things that other people don't see, you know, or feel stuff.
She's really in tune with what's going on around her, a lot more than I am until now.
In other words, you would have described yourself as what, kind of skeptical?
Yeah, very skeptical.
Okay, alright, good.
So, it started off with, she said that she'd seen like angels around the house.
Angels?
You know, which I thought was kind of odd.
She said, well, it's a good thing, you know.
Okay, so I'd never seen him, but she said there was always this one out by this tree, and then he'd be in this other room.
She had this thing about being in the kitchen all the time that she felt safe there.
Didn't like being in any of the other rooms in the house, especially the front room area.
Yeah, rooms can have a feel to them.
Sure.
And so this went on.
It was kind of funny because every now and then, like, sometimes I'd fall asleep on the couch and I'd be woke up to, like, somebody whispering in your ear, you know, like, ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch- And there were several times I'd be sitting in the front room by myself, and maybe the kids might be upstairs, and she was at work, and I'd be playing a video game or something, just kind of biding some time, and you get that feeling that somebody's walking up behind you, like you can hear the floor kind of squeak, and you turn around and there's nobody there.
So this would happen off and on.
It wasn't just kind of like, okay, you know, Just my imagination running rapid never really put anything together.
So a little bit later, then we started hearing the little girl laughter.
This was a couple of months of being there.
Most of the time when I heard it, I would be upstairs in the bathroom, and it was like right outside the door, but nobody would be there at the house.
It only happened when nobody was there.
Do you have children?
Do you have a little girl?
I have an 11-year-old daughter and a 12-year-old son.
No, no really little girls.
No, no, you know, this is, you know, younger than what they would be, and it's just like little laughter, like he was playing with a friend.
Just outside your door?
Right outside the bathroom door, yeah.
Audible, loud, just like you would hear it if there was a little girl.
Exactly.
My kids were right there in the house, you know.
Alrighty.
I'd be the only one in there.
Right.
And then, like, Sherry would see shadows move all the time in the house, you know, like, there it goes, you know, it was in the front room, but I wouldn't see it.
Well, then I started After a while, catching out of the corner of my eye, seeing something move.
Sometimes in the bathroom upstairs, there was a mirror on the back wall, and if you had the medicine cabinet open, you could see right into the hallway when I was shaving.
Right.
This one particular day, I'm in there shaving, and I see this go from my room into my son's room.
See what go?
A shadow figure.
Something black, four feet in height.
You know, like a kid or something like that.
Small.
Yeah.
So, right after that, my son comes running up the stairs and I say, you know, hey, Brandon, is there somebody with you?
And he's like, no, by myself.
I'm like, okay.
Just must be seeing things again, you know?
So this kind of keeps going on.
And then it was kind of odd because that first summer there in the house, the house is real drafty.
I mean, it's really old.
It's not insulated.
Well, it's, you know, 90 degrees out in the summertime, and when I'd come home from work, you'd have to go around and open up all the doors to let the heat in, because it was so cold in the house that you'd have to wear a coat.
Right.
You know, and it's like, there's something not right.
Sherry kept bringing that up, and I'm like, well, we've got the shade of the trees, you know, and you don't get basically try to, you know, make reason out of anything.
Yes, of course, the brain struggles to do that.
Yes.
Absolutely.
Which I did all the time.
And, um, so this went along and then her, uh, then went through that winter and it was, there was just some, some more activity going on.
And, uh, then her son come to live with us.
He was living out of state and come up and the first night that he was there we were talking about, you know, what he's been doing and what's going on and so we went up to bed and, uh, He slept downstairs in the front room on the couch.
I don't know, what time was it?
Probably 11, 11.30 like that.
Sure he just woke up by my son's radio in his room blasting.
It's like, why did he set his alarm?
Get up!
So he gets up, goes walking in there, and it's just blasting loud.
And she's shaking him, trying to wake him up, and he won't wake up.
And the radio, which he normally has on all these goodies and stuff, Is saying over and over again, time to kill, time to kill.
Which just freaks her out.
Time to kill?
Yes.
So she rips the cord out of the wall, turning the radio off, walks out of the room, and there's Greg sitting at the top of the stairs, just white as a ghost looking at her.
And he goes, I am not sleeping down there by myself.
Can I sleep in your room?
Because something has just pinned me on the couch.
Ah, Ken, hold on.
We're, uh, here at the bottom of the hour.
There's more, more to this.
He was the last caller last night.
You didn't get to hear all of this.
Tonight you are.
I'm Art Bell.
This is Coast to Coast AM.
Then I bet you can tell.
You're listening to Art Bell's Somewhere in Time on Premiere Radio Networks.
Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from January 25th, 2002.
The Coast to Coast AM concert was held at the Amphitheatre in the City of London.
The concert was held at the Amphitheatre in the City of London.
Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from January 25th, 2002.
Ken tells me Sherry, his girlfriend, is there and prepared to verify everything you're hearing from Ken right now.
I'm Art Bell.
Don't move.
Now we take you back to the night of January 25th, 2002, on Art Bell's Somewhere in Time.
time right uh... about now to uh...
canada can you know if somebody if i had encountered a radio blaring out time to
kill my children okay
that would be one i'd pack up and bought and that that was some people on the fast plus is
saying here it would be time to go
which is that one of the things that we've we're having discussing between ourselves and what was
going on something would happen
like that you know or something else I'm out.
And it seemed like within 15 to 20 minutes time that it was like you never even knew it happened.
Like there was some type of control, manipulation, whatever it was, or the power that this thing had.
Now by that do you mean you didn't remember the event, or do you mean the event just didn't seem... It would just seem like everything just went passive on it.
You know, like there was really nothing going on, you know, it was in the back...
Okay.
You know, it was like something would push everything to the back of your mind.
Okay.
I mean, even the stuff that happened to Sherry, that, you know, she would be traumatized, and it was within two or three hours, we were back to doing our normal daily routine.
Yeah, I guess that's really the way life is.
I've had a lot of traumatic events in my life, and they do pass, and, you know, life does go on, as the old saying goes, and so, yeah, I understand.
And, you know, time and time again we talked about getting out of there, you know, but it just, it wouldn't, you know, we'd make up excuses about stuff or something or, you know, it didn't seem so bad.
Yeah, you know, or Sherry would try to leave, like, that's it, I've got to get out of here, and I would talk to her and she would end up staying.
Right.
And it wasn't until after we were out of there that we were able to really start putting the pieces together.
Well, after this business with the radio, what then?
How bad did it get?
I mean, last night you mentioned that Sherry was physically attacked by something.
Yes, he was.
And actually, the first time was just prior to Greg's attack.
It was just before he came.
It was like a week earlier.
And so I kind of screwed up on my timeline there.
She was attacked and we just thought, well, we won't say nothing to him.
She was attacked how?
She was sleeping in the bed upstairs and was awoke out of the sleep being pinned with her face down.
She was laying on her stomach with her face stuffed into the pillow and just being pushed into the bed.
You know, she couldn't even, you know, she was able to get her head turned around and there was nobody there.
She was just being held down.
You know, and it was like... By a completely unseen force or something.
Exactly.
You know, couldn't see it, but could feel it.
All right.
Now, Ken, it's not that I doubt what you're saying.
Right.
But if you would be willing to put Sherry on for a moment, this might be a time when she should describe what happened to her.
Okay.
If she's willing to.
Here she is.
Okay.
Hello?
Hi, Sherry.
Hi.
Thank you first of all for coming on.
I really appreciate it.
Ken was just beginning to tell me about being pinned down or something in bed.
I thought I ought to hear this from you.
Yes.
I was sleeping and I just woke up to my face being shoved into the pillow.
My body was totally paralyzed.
I couldn't move.
It was a terrific amount of weight that was laying on top of me.
Did it feel like a body?
It felt like a body.
Not a blunt weight, but a body.
Yes, definitely.
I had other occasions where it would just come in and touch my leg.
You could actually see the comforter indent.
You couldn't see anything there, but you could feel it and you could see the comforter move.
At times it would tuck you in just like you were a child.
Not hurt you.
It was really, it was terrifying.
And it got to, after that happened, I refused to go to bed by myself.
I refused to go to any room but the kitchen.
I just sat in the kitchen for almost two years straight.
Oh my God, this went on for how long?
Two years.
For two years?
Two years.
Is it over now?
No.
I hope it is.
We're Christians and we've been going to church and we've had people praying for us and we moved into this house which has, it's a brand new home and nobody's lived here and our first night here by ourselves I was just rolling over to put my arm around Ken and this horrible laugh Like, it was in a tunnel, but it was right up above us, and it was really... So, whatever this is, it has followed you?
It sure seems like it.
So it's not even over now?
Uh-uh.
It may be there now.
It could be.
I haven't felt anything.
Have you been, uh, have you had physical marks, bruises from any... I've had a bite on my back, in the middle of my back from it.
A bite on your back?
Mm-hmm.
Teeth marks?
Teeth marks.
It took six weeks for it to heal.
Oh my god, when did, how did this happen?
It was, I was just up in the bedroom and it was just, ow!
You know?
You mean just, you were standing, laying down in bed?
I was standing in the bedroom and it was just a, you know, just pain in my back and so I went downstairs and Had Ken lift my shirt up to look at my back, and there it was.
And there's a bite mark.
That takes six weeks to heal?
It took six weeks, and he kept putting peroxide, and it was quite something.
You know, I asked Ken, and I'll ask you too, and maybe you'll have the same answer, but after going into your son's room and hearing a radio blaring, time to kill, time to kill, Most people would be so out of their sherry.
Oh, I've tried.
I was so terrified.
I was so scared.
And yet, there was some kind of a power that took over.
And Ken was such a skeptic.
Even though he was hearing the things that were happening, he said, well, nothing happens when you're with me.
I take it you were not as much of a skeptic.
I was not.
Well, I've never had anything like this ever happen to me before.
And I didn't know what it was, but I really believed that.
I knew I wasn't crazy, and I knew this stuff was really happening to me.
Well, what about your children?
Well, we kept it quiet.
They're very young, and we didn't want to frighten them, but we asked questions to make sure that nothing was hurting them.
So they really weren't being affected particularly?
No.
But my children, my oldest one is 26 and my youngest one is 22 and they both had incidents with it too.
Oh.
And the 22 year old is the one that came into our room and slept on the floor that night that he was pinned.
But he had absolutely no clue because I never mentioned this to him at all.
Until that night when he was attacked and we told him what had been happening.
It sounds like sometimes it was, you say, it tucked you in, for example.
Yeah.
So that almost seems benign.
That almost seems friendly.
Well, as the story goes, I thought there was just one thing there.
But after the end of the story, you'll hear that there might have been several more.
Okay, but everything Ken's been telling us is basically the way you remember it, too.
Oh, yeah.
And even down to the point where after these things would occur, like the radio and the rest of it, it would sort of fade from your mind in a way that lessened the importance of what had just happened in some way causing you to stay?
No.
I would have anxiety even.
I didn't want to go back to the house.
I tried to stay away.
We're bike riders.
So it didn't fade as much for you?
Yeah.
It didn't fade as much for me.
I was terrified.
Do you have any sense, any idea of why you thought the kitchen was a safe place?
I didn't have the feeling of... I mean, any other room, it was just a...
Like just go up your spine.
You could just feel it like breathing on you.
All of that was not present in the kitchen?
It wasn't in the kitchen.
So you spent a lot of time in the kitchen?
I spent two years of my... I wouldn't go watch TV even.
I couldn't sit in the living room at all, which would aggravate the family.
But I was that uncomfortable.
I could not sit in any room but the kitchen.
And then I would stay up and Wait until Ken would go to bed at night because I would not go up and sleep in that bedroom by myself.
That's like some kind of prison.
It was.
For you?
It was a prison to me.
It was really horrible.
Okay, well, I may ask you to come back.
I don't know, but I just wanted to hear your words, and I just have.
You can remember as plainly as day, that radio blaring out?
I can remember everything, just as if I'm standing there.
Yep, everything is very clear.
Okay, let me talk once again to Kanna if I could, please.
Hello?
Howdy?
Okay, so I guess we haven't even heard it all yet?
No.
There's more.
Okay.
Oh great, the phone's going to start going again.
Go up and get the other phone.
Let's see, where are we?
After Greg had been pinned, there was a time he went out one night.
we were setting up and was talking in bed and we heard the door downstairs shut and
we heard girl laughter and we thought, oh, Greg is home and brought some friends with
him so she gets up, sure goes downstairs and comes running back up there and there's nobody
there which there was nobody there, he never came home that night.
And so just little things like that kept going on until he had a girlfriend move in with
him and Jamie started encountering...
It sounds like you were getting ready to change telephones here or something.
Yes, I am.
Alright, well that's not a problem.
You know, I mean, here's your wife almost not willing to come out of the kitchen.
How were you handling that?
Hello?
Yes, hi.
Hold on a second, let me turn this volume up.
Where is it at?
Okay, you're on some other phone now.
This is great.
Are you there?
Yes, uh-huh.
I'm here.
I'm trying to get this volume on this phone to... Can you hear me?
Can you hold on for just a second?
Sure, sure.
Sounds like we are having technical difficulties.
I got a phone problem.
Yeah, I can tell.
Oh, great.
I'm hearing you all right.
Oh, there we go.
And by the way, you need to turn the radio off in the background if you can.
Okay.
She's downstairs with the other phone.
She must have just hung it up.
Okay.
All right.
Sounds good.
Now, what I asked you, I'm going to ask you again now, Ken.
Okay.
You've got a girlfriend who is spending almost every day for two years in her kitchen.
Right.
How did you handle that?
Very difficultly.
I sat in there with her most of the time.
We knew that we needed to move, but we didn't have the funds available to.
We were just getting by at the time.
What kind of work do you do?
I'm a mechanic.
Does your girlfriend also work?
She was laid off at the time.
So she was home all the time.
She would try to stay gone during the daytime if I wasn't there.
Yes, I understand.
As a skeptic, what did you think was going on?
Did you think that she was having problems or had you seen enough of this so you knew she wasn't having problems?
It's just that you all had a problem.
Well, that's kind of it.
You don't have to answer any of these.
I'm just trying to get to the bottom of how you reacted.
Well, I started getting really frustrated about it is how I ended up reacting, which is kind of weird because since we've gotten out of there and we've been sitting there talking about it, it's like I knew what was going on, but something wasn't letting me deal with it the way that I should have.
It was like whatever it is that's there, it has an agenda.
It's got a plan of something that it wants to happen.
Did you ever get an idea of what you think that was?
I don't know.
We've talked to a few people.
There's one guy in particular that I've really done a lot of talking with that he's done a lot of ghost research and on properties.
Anyway, he does a lot of research on the back, on the history of like, you know, a place where it was haunted.
Right.
And he'll get the history all the way back to the original landowners.
Right.
And try to find out what's happened on that property.
So what do you know about that house?
That's the thing.
We've been having a little problem trying to find... I need to get a hold of Historical Society to get the original back stuff of what's going on.
Alright.
But I did find out that there was a family that lived in the house 20 years earlier.
In the middle of the night, left and never came back.
Left everything behind.
Food, clothes, toys, everything.
Furniture.
They just left?
They just left.
Strong hint there, Tim.
Strong hint.
We didn't find that out until after we were out.
Gotcha, okay.
And it's like, whoa, because I'm really trying to research this stuff and talking to people and come to find out that there's several As a skeptic, when your wife pulled up her blouse or
whatever and you saw a bite mark on her back, how did you react to that?
It was like, how in the hell did that get there?
I knew she didn't have it earlier.
So it's kind of like...
That would be the morning that I seen it.
It?
This dark, small, whatever?
Yes.
It's a week's time that has built up into this chaotic frenzy of us bailing.
In a very rapid fashion.
When you left the house, right?
Right.
Okay, so it got suddenly much worse.
It did.
Greg and Jamie had moved out and that was the point where it started getting worse.
They moved over to Eastern Oregon and they're over there now.
And after he had left, the activity started picking up.
So this one friend of ours, she had come over and had some ideas on how to get rid of You know, the ghost in the house or whatever it was.
Right.
And was trying that, you know.
And it's like Sherry's going, she's pissing it off.
You know, she's really making this thing agitated.
What was she doing?
Religious sorts of things?
We had done it.
We'd anointed the house.
We'd, you know, prayed in every room.
We'd commanded it by the name of Jesus Christ and God to vacate the premises, you know, and rebuked it.
And whatever it was, it wasn't going to leave.
And we found out later that some things take a whole congregation of people to get rid of.
So what began to happen in the last week?
Okay, so she had come over here a few times trying to get rid of this thing.
Anyway, Shuri and Wendy were outside at the tree out there and Shuri's going, I really feel something out here by this tree.
So to humor them, I went out and dug a hole.
And a friend of mine, he's search and rescue, and I worked with him for years doing search and rescue.
Wait a minute, you dug a hole?
I dug a hole.
There's something strange by it.
Did they conclude beneath it, and is that how you started digging, or did you decide to dig?
The thing here is the house is built on a knoll, and we found out that the place that was across the way was intended to be a mortuary.
So that leads me to believe that in the pioneer days they used gnolls as like family burial sites.
Ken, what did you think you were digging for?
I don't know.
I was going to dig a hole to appease them so that I could get some rest.
It's nine o'clock at night in the dark of the light.
I'm out there digging this hole.
I'll tell you what, I'll call my friend up, have him come over with his dog that he uses for finding buried people or drowning victims.
Yes.
And if it hits on the hole, then we've got something.
If it doesn't, okay, you know.
So we go to bed that night, get up in the morning.
Sherry was working at that time.
She left just before I got up.
I got up, come downstairs and I'm pouring a cup of coffee and look out the window and the hole's filled in.
What?
Yeah, the hole's filled in.
How much of a hole had you dug?
I dug it like, it's two and a half feet around by three feet deep.
That's a big hole.
Yeah, and it's filled back in.
And so I called, she called me on her lunch break and asked her if she filled a hole in and she said no.
And I talked to Wendy and Wendy said no.
And I was like, okay, nobody filled the hole in, how do I get filled in?
So...
Then I had...
That was like a Thursday night.
Yeah.
Harry was going to come over on Friday, couldn't make it until the following day on Saturday.
So he came over with his dog.
Which the dog did an alert out by the tree, but it was a real mild one, but it wasn't in the same spot.
It was about three feet away.
From where you had to... Right, from where I had dug.
It did it.
Ken, hold on.
We're at the top of the hour.
Just stay right where you are.
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All right, uh, uh, Ken, we're down to the last week, the last straw, I suppose, in a way, huh?
Last straw?
The last couple of days there, anyway.
Well, it was absolutely the last straw.
All right, what happened?
Okay, so Saturday, I had my friend Harry come over with his dog and I worked the property.
You know, when it hit on that one spot by the tree.
Right.
Well, we went and put him in the truck and we walked through the house and here he's got a digital camera and he took some shots and stuff like that to see if anything happened to come up.
Right.
But he goes, I'll tell you what, why don't we take her down to the basement and see what happens down there.
Take the dog?
Yes.
Okay.
So you go down in this basement and you go down these stairs and you turn right at the bottom and it opens up.
It's an unfinished basement.
It's all dirt floor.
But somebody put like plywood up on the right side that goes down and angles over making a room like an old storage room or something.
Right.
And he opened up the door to that and went in there with the dog and that dog literally turned inside out.
It did not want anything to do with that room.
Oh.
I mean just I've seen dogs react doing death alerts and this was like a major one.
Death alert?
Yeah, that's what it's called.
And, uh, the dog, you know, we took it out and went upstairs, and it took like a week for the, for his dog to calm down from that.
He said the last time he'd seen a dog like that was when he had it in Turkey at the earthquake.
Uh, did either one of you go back down to that room?
Um, no.
Smart.
And, uh, because, uh, I've seen my buddy, I've never seen him scared.
And we've been in a lot of predicaments when we did search and rescue and stuff, and, uh, I know him really well, and I've He had the look of terror on his face.
That was enough for you?
That was enough for me.
We went up and we talked for a while.
We were going to get together that Saturday night and go out, get away from the house, try to calm ourselves down.
My kids were at my folks' for the weekend.
We ended up going out that evening and when we came back, I ran down to the store because Sherry goes, well, we're down at the store and we need this real quick and I've got something I've got to do and I come back up.
She's in the basement.
She's in the basement?
She's in the basement in that room with a shovel and a flashlight going, I'm going to get you.
Oh my God.
Oh yeah, that was my thought.
So I come down there and she just freaks and goes running out of there.
So we talk about this stuff.
You know, you can't do this.
You know, I mean... You had told her about the room and the dog and all the rest of it.
She was there.
Oh, she was there.
So she knew about all this.
Right, exactly.
So she knew something was in that room or under... Right, or something, you know, been there for some time or that's where the power or whatever it is there that's coming from or, you know, I don't know.
But whatever it is, it's bad.
It's pure evil and death.
So you find her with a shovel in her hand saying she's going to get... Yeah.
So then what?
So then what?
Well we go upstairs and we're talking and it's like you know I'm trying to get a level head view of this thing you know and it's like oh my god you know I mean we there's you know we got to do something about this you know she says we have to do something because somebody is going to get seriously injured or killed is what she says you know and it's like okay so we go to bed that night now the next morning Is when this happens.
Well, actually right after that is when I got upset after we had this talk.
And I go, that's it.
I go, alright, whatever you are, show yourself.
I'm tired of this.
We're going at it, you know.
And I really got upset and I was walking through the house ranting and raving that I wanted to see, whatever it is, show yourself now.
Nothing, you know.
So we go to bed, get up in the morning, take a shower, go back into the bedroom there.
I got the stereo in the rooms playing.
Through my sweats on and my slippers and t-shirt, you know, we're going to go downstairs and we hear this, you know, what I said last night, this thump.
Thump.
I mean, heavy.
I can go up and down the foot or the stairs.
I weigh 180 pounds and I don't even come close to making the sound that this thing was making.
And I look at her and it's like, who's in the house?
And so I turn and I look out the window because our driveway comes up and wraps around and there's no cars there or nothing.
And the dog's laying by the end of the bed on the floor, and I look at the dog, and the dog's head is just starting to turn sideways as it's looking through the doorway, you know, at what's coming up, and she barks at everything.
And there's something big coming up.
There's something coming up, and she's not saying a word.
Just her head's just turning.
And so I step over, and Sherry steps over, and here it comes, up the stairs, you know, whatever it is, it's pure black.
Black can be.
I mean, I've got a black snap-on jacket and it's as black as that.
What kind of shape?
Shaped like a human again?
Small?
No, this is big.
This is like six foot two.
Bigger than me.
I'm five eight and a half and I'm looking up at this thing.
And it's got this enormous head.
And then this body.
But you can't see like arms or legs.
But you can make out the shape of this enormous head that comes down.
And then this body comes out from it that goes down to the floor but doesn't touch the
floor.
Oh my gosh.
And it's like its head is tipped down like it's looking at the floor where it's going
and it comes and gets up like the stairs in and you know you've got where the platform
goes all the way around that you walk on.
And it just starts rotating towards me.
It rotates to the right and I'm standing there looking at this thing.
Not on feet though, just rotating in the air.
Yeah, just rotating.
I'm looking at the dog and the dog is looking at it and the dog is saying, well screw me!
And Sherry just drops to her knees.
The thought going through my mind is if this thing looks up, I'm done.
I'm dead.
This thing is coming.
This has an agenda.
It is right now.
It has decided that it is going to do some damage.
And it starts coming towards us.
And it's just like, I don't know if you've ever seen the movie Alien, where there's a part in the film where it comes at the one girl in the spaceship and it's just like in slow motion as it comes to her.
She's just freaked out.
That's the way this thing was coming, you know, like there was nothing I could do and it was going to have me.
And as it came towards me it got just about to the door and it just turned to the right with a blur.
Gone.
Blink.
And she just screams out, did you see that?
And I'm like, hell yes!
Did you see the size of the head on this thing?
And I run to the door and I look out expecting to see this thing right there but there's nothing.
All the doors are shut.
You know, there's no light in the hallway except for the light that's coming from our room, which is just the light through the windows.
You know, I'm just speculating, Ken, but it sounds like when your wife was downstairs with that shovel in that room, it knew it had been found.
Yeah.
Do you think that could be right?
I very well think that could be right.
Whatever is there does not want to be disturbed.
I wouldn't disturb it for anything.
One more time, if you don't mind, may I speak to Sherry?
Sure.
I appreciate that.
Hello.
Hi Sherry.
Hi.
Everything he said so far correct?
Absolutely.
Sherry, could you tell me what took you down to that room with a shovel in your hand?
Can you remember what went through your head to get there?
Yes.
I was so fed up with all the stress of it and I just wanted it to be gone.
I believe that whatever was in the house was probably buried down there because of the
way the dog acted.
Right.
This dog is like 99% on.
So you were just fed up?
I was fed up.
I wanted released from it.
I didn't care what it took to get rid of it.
You were going to dig it up?
I was going to dig it up.
The only thing is that there is concrete under that ground.
I was going to dig it up.
Yes.
Wow.
Wow.
Sherry, the being that Ken just described that came up the steps.
Uh huh.
That's exactly what I saw.
We've drawn pictures of it.
And that's exactly what we saw.
And it was so unusual.
I was so happy because It's shown itself to me before, but it's never shown it to two people at the same time.
So it was a relief to you that he finally saw it?
Saw it.
He was no longer a skeptic.
Alright, I just sort of wanted to understand what was going through your mind that took you down there with a shovel.
That's pretty radical stuff.
Oh, I know.
But if he'd been through all that, you would have probably done the same thing.
All right, I agree.
Thanks for talking to me, Sherry, and put Ken on one last time.
Okay.
Okay, so at this point, now you've both seen this thing.
Your skepticism, obviously, is long gone.
Oh, yeah, that just already made it out of the house.
So at what point did you two say, that's it?
That must have been the point.
Well, this is... Anyway, so I...
That was later, well actually the next day, or later that night, that was it.
Because I look out there and there was nothing there and I turn around and she's backpedaling towards the windows.
Right.
Trying to find some security, get her back up against something and I run in there and I grab her, come on!
And I look out the door and it's clear still and it's like, come on Chewie!
And down the stairs we went and we ran out of the house.
So we're standing out there in the driveway just trembling, shaking and I'm like, oh my wallet, my keys, they're on the dresser in the bedroom, great!
That means I've got to go back in the house.
So we just kind of hung out there for a little bit and went back in and normal.
It was like nothing was going on.
There were photographs taken and you've got a photograph of some kind of creature, don't you?
Yes, I have.
There are several in the picture.
Several?
Yes, there are several that look like monsters and then there are a couple that look like
demons and a human looking guy that looks like a tombstone.
In order to get me these photographs you don't have a scanner on you?
I don't.
Here at home I have to go to a friend.
So you could go to a friend and get these scanned and send them to me?
Yes, I could.
You are the hell out of that house now, although you may not be done with this thing or with
you I guess.
Right, right.
We've had some episodes since we've left there.
Do you want an investigation?
Do you want some sort of... It sounds to me like some sort of college or paranormal investigation team should be in that house, or maybe not.
Maybe with you.
But certainly somebody should go look at that little storage area in the dirt basement.
Yeah, that's the whole thing.
You know, since we left the house, it kind of made it to where the landlord's kind of back in control, you know?
And he doesn't really believe us.
He doesn't believe you?
No, no.
And yet, he probably knows the history of somebody else who's run out of that house a long time ago, right?
Exactly.
And still he, well, of course, I guess the landlord probably wouldn't want to Do you know whether anybody new is there now?
No, no.
Right now he's in the process of laying new carpet and painting.
In fact, I have to go there tomorrow.
I still have a two-car garage that's set off from the house there that I have a bunch of parts in and a couple cars to move because we left the house two weeks before Thanksgiving and we're just now getting to the end of getting stuff from there.
That's how bad it was.
My God.
To go back there, um, the day, that night after we'd seen it, and I took the photos that night because there was just this ball activity of like little plasma balls and stuff going through the house.
Right.
And we went to bed that night, and the activity had moved from downstairs up to our room.
And Sherry went to sleep at like 11.30, and I laid there till 3.30 watching this stuff.
And I go, I gotta go to sleep.
And I'm looking and it's like, oh, almost 4 o'clock.
I got to get up and go to work.
So I lay there on my side and I close my eyes and the next thing I know the comforter is just sucked around me and I'm rolled over flat on my back like I'm in a mummy bag.
You know one of them zip up sleeping bags that you can't hardly move in.
Right.
And I don't know what it is because I can't see it.
It's on top of me and it's pushing all the air out of my lungs to where I can't breathe and I'm struggling.
say sherry's name and like sherry as hard as i can trying to get her name out and you know i'm
trying to look at her and she opens up her eyes and she looks at her name again and she kind of
looks at me like what you know and i was able to say it one more time and she sat up and then it
quit this thing was trying to kill you that's what i think i just felt like it was like partially
into my body it was pushing me down in the mattress i mean i was being pushed into the
the mattress.
It was trying to supplicate me or kill me.
Right there, she would have woke up in the morning and thought I died in my sleep.
So, in your opinion, the landlord wouldn't have a thing to do with any sort of investigation of this?
I really highly doubt it.
Do you feel like you should be talking to the people who are going to next rent it and warning them?
I very well probably will.
You know, we've discussed this, that that could end up in some type of lawsuit or something like that, but... You're right.
To have somebody go through what we went through, I don't want to see that because whatever is there is evil.
How convinced are you that whatever it is may have followed you and be with you now?
Because when we moved from there to the other house we were at, we had several incidents that happened there and then it managed to calm down and we got the house that we're in now and we have been moving stuff in here.
My kids were staying the night at their friend's house over by the old place, and we were here alone, the first night alone in the house here, and we went to bed, and like Sherry had told you earlier, she was laying there in bed, and she like literally jumped on top of me, you know?
She goes, I'm scared!
And I hear this, grr, grr, grr, this echoing, like, kind of in a dimension, but not the one that we're in, like in a tunnel.
You know, like somebody off in the distance going from the bed out the doorway of the bedroom.
And I just thought, like, you bastard, you know, here's this evil laugh like, I found you.
Yeah.
You know, guess what?
But that's the last thing that's happened here.
It's really odd.
And yeah, we've been going to church every week and, you know, it's This is one last question I want to ask, and again, you don't have to answer it, but have either one of you considered the possibility that whatever this is, is coming from one of you?
You know, we were thinking about that, but neither one of us ever had any experiences like this until being in that house.
Ever.
Have you talked to any other media about this?
No, I have not, other than the one guy that he wrote four books.
And he gave me a lot of really good information that's really helped to protect us.
But you haven't done any other interviews until now?
No.
Okay.
What I want to do is stay in touch with you and Sherry and I want to know how this comes out.
Alright?
Yes, yes.
I would be happy to let you know how it comes out.
I hope well and I wish you both well.
I'll get those pictures back to you.
You can study those for a while.
Uh, and put them on the website with your, uh, permission.
Okay.
I'll discuss that.
All right?
All righty.
Ken, thank you.
Thank you.
Have a nice night.
I say goodnight to Sherry.
Aye aye aye.
Thank you.
Okay.
Onward.
Monsters.
The subject for tonight.
I guess that was a pretty good warm-up, wasn't it?
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You know, in my opinion, from what you just heard, that's as bad as it gets.
And I mean that's as bad as it gets.
And I understand the inclination of people to say, look here, something like that happened to me, I've been gone out of there so long, before that your head had been spinning.
But, in real life, It doesn't always work out that way.
You've rented a place.
You've got money down.
You don't have a lot of money to spare.
You've got a job.
You've got a wife and children to take care of.
You just don't easily jump, especially when you are skeptical.
But boy, that went on for an awful long time, didn't it?
Pretty freaky stuff, but then again, that's what this is the home of.
Stay right there.
Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from January 25th, 2002.
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That was strange. Does that qualify as a monster?
Well, maybe ghost monster Sounded like a monster didn't it?
So I you know, I thought I would ask you about monsters anybody who's encountered monsters and I Sure did get a good start there.
That was the last thing he was actually the last caller on last night's program He didn't get that kind of detail Just one more item and then we go to open lines.
In 1966, Art, I passed through a pickup.
I was riding a Honda 305 touring bike.
This happened in front of a Catholic church just after Mass when the congregation was loitering outside 50 feet away.
The event, in fact, was witnessed by almost the entire church, Nashville, Arkansas, including a local newspaper editor.
The miracle did not, however, appear in the paper.
Huh.
He passed through a pickup.
In other words, and you can't believe how many emails I've had since we had this call, I don't know when it was, some nights ago, from a man who was in an obvious fatal accident.
In other words, that instant when you know you've blown a stop sign at high speed, you see the other car directly in your path and you know you're dead.
Well, you're not dead.
Because you passed, somehow, right through the vehicle in your path.
A lot of emails like that.
Like this one.
An entire church congregation saw it happen.
East of the Rockies, you are on the air.
Uh, thank you for waiting.
Hi, Eric.
Hi.
Where are you?
Uh, Chicago Ridge, Illinois.
Yes, sir.
My name is Doug.
Yes, Doug.
I've got a story for you.
It's freaked me out all these years.
About seven years ago I was sleeping alone in bed and I wake up and there's three hooded monks at the foot of my bed.
Why would you say monks?
Because it looked like they had monks outfits on.
Now this is a two part story.
It just looked that way.
I mean it was about an hour before sunrise and my drapes were closed though.
Okay, they were hooded?
Yeah.
Okay.
Did they have discernible shapes for faces and arms and legs?
Well, it just looked like they, well I thought, alright, it looked like they had, looked like hooded months.
That's the best way to describe them.
Okay.
So I sit up on my bed and I look at them.
They look at each other, then they look back at me.
I jump out of bed.
I run in my hallway.
I'm heading for my living room.
And I look to my left and there's two more of these things.
Huh.
In my other bedroom.
Didn't look at me.
They're looking around at my stuff in my bedroom.
Holy moly.
Alright, this is the first part and I'm freaking out.
At least.
I run in my living room.
I get out of my eyesight and my heart's pounding.
And I don't know, I'm thinking they're going to come around the corner.
Uh huh.
So I'm there for a couple minutes.
I go back, I look, peek around the corner, they're gone.
About three days later, it's about the same time, about an hour before sunrise, I'm sound asleep again and I wake up and there's someone illuminated in white light standing on the side of my bed.
The left side of my bed.
And my bed was against the wall.
There shouldn't have been enough room for him to stand there.
So I go to jump out of bed and something slams me back on the bed.
And I'm on my knees on the bed, and I'm about a foot and a half away from this thing.
And something starts guiding my eyes.
My eyes go up his body, from like the thigh up, going up the center of his body.
And he was wearing like a white cassock, I think it's called.
I wore it when I was an altar boy.
I go up, it gets to his chest, and my eyes start going down to his right side, because his arms were held out.
So my eyes are going down his left arm.
And right before I would have got to see his hand, it let me go, or I... I don't know what happened, but I ran.
I ended up jumping out of bed and running.
Logical reaction.
Yeah.
And again, I'm freaking out.
So now I don't sleep with the drapes closed anymore.
You think it had something to do with the drapes being closed?
Well, I think one other time I did sleep with my drapes closed and I saw a ghost.
An old woman.
Any idea where these drapes came from?
From the apartment.
They were left here.
And they are freaky looking.
I don't think it's the drapes, but... I mean, it just freaks me out to this day what it meant.
Do you have any thoughts on what it all meant?
Well, after it happened, I'm thinking maybe my soul could go either way.
Your soul?
Maybe they were there looking around for your soul.
No, I don't know.
I'm glad the white figure came second.
It's a good point.
I guess.
I mean, whatever comforts you.
Thanks for the story.
Take care.
Figures his soul could go either way.
But comforted by the fact that the guy in white came second, not first.
Five little guys in black looking around your apartment.
First staring at you, and then obviously ransacking or looking around your apartment.
West of the Rockies, you are on the air.
Hello.
Hello, Art.
Hello.
Yeah, this is Chuck in Fairbanks, Alaska.
Hi, Chuck.
And I listened to you tonight.
I carve fossilized ivory and bone, and I also deal in fossils.
Oh.
And I had a customer who I sold a very, very rare fossil to a bear.
It was a huge monster bear.
Last summer he called me and said, look I got this film crew from England and they're flying up and they want to take pictures of where this bear is.
I showed them around a little bit and we went to some mines.
I took them to an underground mine where there's a mammoth skull.
Just to make a long story short, it was real interesting.
These are some premier Videographers on documentaries and medical things.
And they called me, oh, a few weeks later, and they said, look, we're looking for some, and I really didn't even know what this was all about, but they're looking, we're looking for some meat that is anywhere from 100 to, you know, 500, 1,000 years old.
Now, why would anybody want that?
Well, evidently, this hasn't come out yet.
You mentioned a little bit about this, these cells that they're getting out of bones.
Are there human stem cells that would appear to be able to reproduce every single organ in your body?
This is another scientist on the East Coast that's doing the same thing.
It's along the same lines, and I had never heard of them before.
These guys that were doing the video wouldn't tell me anything about it, but my friend, the collector, said they call them spore cells.
So what do you think they were trying to do?
Here's what I found out later.
They can take these spore cells and cultivate them and actually grow them.
They're doing this documentary.
My collector friend said, the guy's going to get a Nobel Prize.
Well, it sounds to me like from what you said in the news tonight, there are other people working on the same thing.
They're at least four or so.
Well, I said, I go out to the villages and buy ivory from the Eskimos.
I sent a flyer out to this village out in the middle of the Bering Sea where people have lived for over 2,000 years.
I put something on the board that said, reward for ancient old meat caches.
Frozen flesh.
Frozen meat.
It was really a fascinating experience.
I hadn't been out there in years and years.
These Siberian Yupik Eskimos have lived there for over 2,000 years.
When they hunt the walrus in the spring, they bury the meat.
They take a big piece of the hide off and they wrap the meat up in it.
And they bury them in these holes that are sometimes 15 feet deep.
It's like a refrigerator.
So in other words, they, from time to time, might come on a stash.
A very ancient stash.
Right.
Well, on this same island, they also dig for these artifacts.
And when they're digging in these old village sites, they find these meatballs.
And this guy called me, and I said, yeah.
And he says, I've got two or three of these.
I know where they're at, and I can dig them up for you.
So I went out and videoed it, and I got two of these ancient meatballs.
Meatballs, you call them?
Yeah, they're meatballs.
These are chunks of walrus meat, and it's wrapped up in walrus hide, and it looked to me like a mummy, but it was heavy and very frozen, you could tell.
How are you able to tell the age?
How do you decide?
Well, the way we can tell, and I got a video of all this.
I took a video camera, and I videoed the guy pulling this out of the hole.
The village, like I say, is 2,000 years old, and we went to the This came out of one of the oldest sites of the village
where these people hadn't lived or anybody had anything to do with it for like 500 years.
And the ground, as you know, up here is permanently frozen.
And they just worked all summer like chipping concrete to get these artifacts out.
I mean, some of the most incredible, incredible artifacts, some of them are worth tens of
thousands of dollars.
This ancient civilization was one of the most sophisticated in North America.
So you think you dug up this ancient meat to be reproduced?
Well, I called the lady.
When I got back, I FedExed this.
I put it on dry ice and I sent it to this guy that's doing the research.
I'm not going to mention his name.
No, please don't.
It hasn't come out yet.
I could email it to you.
You could maybe get a hold of him.
I sent it by FedEx, and she wouldn't tell me a thing about it, but I talked to my friend later, and he said that the meat had, they were really emphatic about telling me that this meat cannot be thawed.
You know, and I got this the first of November.
What do you mean, cannot be thawed?
Well, they didn't want it thawed because they didn't want bacteria to contaminate it, and it would be harder for them to get the salt.
Yes, of course.
The crew from England came over.
I sent it off to them.
The crew from England came over in December and were videoing at this doctor's laboratory.
I emailed them.
They wouldn't email me back.
I called my friend.
Can you tell me where this lab was?
It's in Massachusetts.
I knew this kind of stuff was going on in labs privately around the world.
Right.
This guy, I talked to his secretary.
He's a professor.
Really what he's involved in, he's a real big wig professor and it doesn't sound like this is something he's doing on the side like you say.
It's not a, he's not a full time researcher.
It evidently this guy and his brother are involved in it.
So this was a good money making venture for you?
Well I had the time of my life because I carve bone and ivory and I got just tons of neat material to work.
And I did.
I made a couple thousand dollars and I got some really good contacts, but I got word of mouth from my friend who is the fossil collector that the meat had been frozen and thawed, but they were able to inside one of the bones get some of these spore cells and cultivate them.
So I just thought it was kind of going along.
I tried to call you a couple times when you were talking about cloning, but... Yeah, how do you feel about being part of this?
Well, you know, I have real mixed feelings.
I don't believe that humans should be cloned.
I don't think it's something we need to do.
And hopefully, maybe this research... Well, how about ancient animals, though?
I mean, bringing back ancient animals, is that... You know, my life is tied up in carving and dealing in.
I'll send you a picture myself.
I've sold probably more mammoth tusks and ivory than anybody in the country.
I've sold tens of thousands of pounds of mammoth ivory, and these creatures fascinate me.
I understand that, and I understand the condition of the ground in Fairbanks, believe me, but should we be You've done movies about this, you know?
Dinosaurs, remember?
I think it's going to happen.
I don't know about humans.
I think the Japanese are working on the mammoths.
There's such an interest in it.
It's going to happen.
These new cells that I'm talking about, you're reading about, are probably the way it will be done.
This stuff hasn't even come out yet.
As far as finding that Japanese guy that went to Russia and all that, the way they were going about it is not going to work, but they'll come up with a method.
I know the advisability of bringing into the modern world an ancient animal that really doesn't belong here.
Well, I don't know about that.
These mammoths were here yesterday.
I mean, it was such a short period of time ago.
There are legends of them.
They were just fine yesterday.
Well, in years.
Well, the paleontologists say 20,000 years.
Oh, just 20,000 years.
But they have found evidence in Russia, like on Wrangel Island, 3,000 years.
And there's legends of people that would say that it's been within the last 1,200, 1,500 years, some of these things.
And there were so many more animals.
I know, but Christ was, you know, just 2002, right?
So you're talking about 20,000 years.
It still may be a blink in cosmic time, but I'm telling you, 20,000 years evolutionary in terms of the world's history as we know it, say, since Christ.
Gosh, folks, that's a pretty ancient animal in a pretty modern world, and why do I always think something like this is going to go wrong?
Well, it could.
It very well could.
You know, I believe that the reason that these animals aren't here anymore is because of man.
I look at it from a Christian perspective that the earth was designed and it was so much more complex and beautiful and because of what man has done to it by not taking care of the environment and not following the rule book, things have gotten the way they are.
We're continually loose species and we're really messing things up.
Doesn't it slightly give you the heebie-jeebies?
It does, to be honest with you, Art.
I mean, bones are one thing, but digging up essentially fresh meat from 20,000 years ago and sending it to a scientist in Massachusetts?
I don't know.
I do have some mixed feelings, but I think it's fascinating.
I believe in the Creator, and I think that it's not going to go any further than... He'll put a stop to it.
I don't know.
We could talk all night.
I had a real interesting experience.
I'll tell you about it here.
Two weeks ago, maybe a little longer than that, we have a daughter who we adopted.
She's seven.
This really shook me up.
We came home from church.
It was at night.
I ran across the road to check the mail.
My wife was sitting in the van.
She started running.
A car came flying by.
I screamed.
Something that we couldn't see grabbed her by the neck and jerked her back.
You saw that happen, sir?
Right in front of my eyes.
My wife just... This happened, I don't know, it's been a few weeks ago.
It was just... The guy was flying down the road.
And you saw her move as if by a totally unseen force?
Exactly.
I never had anything... Can you see anything actually pulling on her?
Well, no, but she was jerked backwards.
She was running at a full tilt and something grabbed her from behind and pulled her back.
Oh, my God.
And I honestly believe, like you say, Art, that things are happening at a breakneck pace.
My wife says she sees these shadow people in our house.
My daughter says she sees the same thing.
I've never even thought or heard anything like that.
This just happened within the last year.
There's something going on.
There is something going on.
Yeah.
Something's breaking down.
And what happened to your daughter?
That was clearly a miracle.
It was a miracle.
All right, sir.
Appreciate the call from Fairbanks.
Fresh meat, huh?
Yikes!
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Can you imagine barreling down the highway in the middle of a dark Nevada night in an 18-wheeler, hearing all this stuff?
Man, I'd stop the rig, I'd get on the CB, I'd call for company, and I don't think I'd move until I'd heard the last of it.
Either that, or I'd switch to music.
Sound of thunder.
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Music.
All right, once again, into the night and the unknown we go.
We're in open lines.
We're kind of talking about monsters of all kinds.
Randy in Keithville, Louisiana writes, these ancient animals, the ones we were talking about a moment ago, these ancient animals are dead for a reason.
And what kind of diseases are these scientists going to release upon us that lived 20,000 years ago and killed these animals off?
Has anybody thought about any of this?
It's wrong, it's bad, and it's dangerous.
And I do know they're doing it, too.
They all died.
And hasn't it occurred to anybody out there that there must have been a good reason why they died?
And I'm not sure if we really want to find out, but I guess we're going to, aren't we?
East of the Rockies, you're on the air, good morning.
Hello?
Hello?
Yes, hello.
Art?
Yes.
I'm just thankful just to be able to talk to you about this, because I never knew about Art Bell, and there's two things that I've always wanted to talk to you about.
The first thing is, I have no recollection of what, from a past experience, Moving into a house the first time as a child at five years old, basically what I'm getting at is it was like I was in a dream state, but I was awake.
Your family moved you into a new house?
In a new house.
And what I remember from this new house, I can remember the interior of it.
I cannot remember the exterior, but I remember the things that were The most scariest things that I've ever witnessed in my life.
In that house?
In that house.
Like what?
I'm talking things that were fluorescent.
They looked moldy, in a sense.
There were snakes in the house.
Snakes?
Snakes.
Now, were you the only one seeing these, or were your parents seeing these?
I was the only one.
You were the only one.
Right.
And I've had dreams continuously throughout my life.
Not on an everyday basis, but I'm saying like maybe once or twice a year of the same house as the child that I was experiencing at the time.
And I was in an awake state.
Maybe you're yet to move into this house yourself.
Maybe these are precognitive dreams.
I'm not really sure, but from, you know, becoming... Something's going to come full circle for you.
Full?
Full circle.
I appreciate the story, sir.
Thank you.
Yeah, I don't know what to tell you.
That's one you can put down to a young child's imagination.
Trouble is, he's had these dreams as he's grown up.
Sounds precognitive to me.
Don't mean to worry you, sir.
West of the Rockies.
You're on the air.
Hello.
Hi.
Hi.
Yes, sir.
This is Dan in Idaho Falls.
Yes, Dan.
I wanted to talk about the dangers of Passover of a monster comet.
A monster?
Well, that would be a monster of a kind.
A monster comet.
How close is this comet?
It overflies Earth tomorrow.
Tomorrow?
From South Pole to the North Pole.
Do you mean, uh, now wait a minute, do you mean tomorrow as in today after midnight today?
Or do you mean tomorrow after midnight?
So this day then?
Yes.
Oh, great.
Uh, well, how do you know about this monster comet?
Well, I discovered it more than three years ago and I gave the course.
Well, if it's as close as you say it is, shouldn't the major Astronomical observatories around the world be seeing it like crazy right now?
You see, this comet was altered.
The course was altered by the U.S.
government.
And apparently they're going to be secret about it.
But I wanted to talk about the dangers that we're going to experience tomorrow.
And those are what?
Planetary lightning bolts.
And a tremendous electrical storm.
Don't you got a hundred foot tower?
Yes, I do.
Yes.
Ooh.
Hmm.
Smokin'.
I, uh, we'll have great, just great planetary lightning bolts.
Yeah.
Everybody should be tuned to NOAA weather alert because you're not going to see the comet.
It's going to go by in minutes and people who see it are going to be in mid Pacific.
Do you have any idea, um, about what time?
You're in the mountain standard time?
No, I'm Pacific.
Pacific.
That would be 6.57 p.m.
6.57 p.m.?
That's when it crosses the equator.
Uh-huh.
And as this comet passes, there are going to be incredible disturbances, you say, to our atmosphere?
Yeah.
Electrical lightning storms.
And you want to disconnect your electrical power at the main when it starts.
Well, thanks for the warning.
I'm going to really feel extremely stupid if I don't pay attention to that man, and it happens.
Yes, I've got a tower.
Another tower here in town.
The radio station.
And enough electronics to make up my own war room, you know, if I wanted to rewire it all.
If we are about to have a gigantic comet pass and massive electrical storms in our atmosphere later today, well, I guess this will be my last chat with you if that comes true, huh?
Because it's going to fry all my broadcast equipment, my uplink, and all the stuff at the end of the dish, you know, that the head that transmits to the satellite, and God knows what it's going to do to the satellite.
What chance do I have?
First time caller line, you're on the air.
Hello.
Art?
Yes.
Hi, this is Jason from Syracuse, New York.
Yes, Jason.
I've been trying to call you for months.
We've actually been contacted.
It happened east of Phoenix near Canyon Lake, Arizona.
Who has been contacted?
Me and two friends of mine.
The Anunnaki actually communicated with us mentally from three spacecrafts, two silver One large octagonal, it was gigantic.
It flew right above our car.
And as it was flying right above our car, it stopped and it hovered.
It didn't make any sound.
And we all felt our minds being lifted.
And as our minds were being lifted, we could understand what they were trying to say.
And I could actually know what my friends were thinking.
And that was like the most mind-boggling thing I could actually... You were all sharing a mind.
Yeah.
Along with the Anunnaki and the ship hovering over you.
And where were you when this occurred, please?
Canyon Lake.
It's 50 miles east of Phoenix, Arizona.
And what were you doing out there?
Where are you now?
Right now I'm in Syracuse, New York.
Syracuse.
And so you were out there on vacation or something or what?
I went to college there for a whole semester there in Mesa.
And we had gone camping that weekend, and the weekend before we went out there to swim in Canyon Lake, and we were like, well, let's go back camping and watch the sun come up, because out there you can see all the stars and stuff.
Oh, yes.
It's really cool.
Beautiful, yes.
But as they were above us, our minds were enlisted to where we could understand what they were saying, and I could read my friends' minds, and they gave us assignments to complete on Earth.
Like what?
That's what I'm about to get to.
In the year and a half since our first encounter with them, I've somehow been able to channel this great galactic music force.
And so far I've completed 83 galactic songs.
And they also let me know that once I was done, to get a hold of you, because... This is beginning to sound like a galactic promo.
A galactic promo?
Yeah, a galactic promo.
For galactic music.
Well, they're communicating through this music.
No, I understand that.
I mean, but that is what you're doing, right?
Well, basically... Galactic?
So you have, alright, well, galactically, I'm going to suggest that you email me, and I'll listen to some of your galactically channeled music, and if it is sufficiently interesting, I will put it on the air so everybody can hear it.
That was a galactic promo.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air.
Hello.
Good morning, Art.
Good morning, sir.
This is Kat from near San Francisco.
Yes, sir.
Back in the late 60s, got out of the military.
Went to work for one of the big companies in the San Francisco area.
And I had a bunch of women working for me.
19 of them.
19 women?
Yeah.
They were a pretty good crew.
Like a little family.
They were good.
They really did really efficient work.
Everything was going fine.
I had this one new gal and all of a sudden things started going to hell.
Sick leaves went up.
People started making a lot of mistakes.
I started getting a little concerned and started really paying attention to my flock.
And you associated this with the addition of the new one?
The only thing that was different.
Okay.
And I watched her, and one day, towards break time, she was kind of wandering around through the work area as if... Well, you've seen a dog cutting sheep or cattle out of a herd?
Oh, sure.
She was doing just like that.
She was backing this one gal up, and this gal was really right.
So I started off in her direction.
I was a little bit scared, but I was a little bit happy.
It was a real pleasure to work with you.
She claimed she was a witch.
And she said that this gal that I had just dealt with was a psychic vampire.
A psychic vampire?
I'd never heard of it before.
This is the kind of thing that you get for working with so many women.
Well... This is the first time I ever ran across it.
You've got a psychic vampire.
You've got a witch.
And that's a pretty small thing to come up with.
In the San Francisco area, you've got a lot of people who... Well, you've got a point.
Alright, so she was a psychic vampire, and the witch was helping you out by telling you this.
Well, she was telling me what the story was.
She apparently was attempting to deal with it, and apparently, well...
The other one was messing with my particular flock and they were doing good work up until she showed up.
So I got angry.
You keep calling them your flock.
So she was virtually feeding on your flock.
This is what I was told.
So what happened?
Well, she left a couple days later.
Everything finally settled down and returned back to normal.
I've heard of psychic vampires.
She had a real funny look on her face when she was backing this gal up.
Did the members of your flock have any comment on this woman?
Yeah, they started talking about it afterwards.
They started telling myself and a couple other people they were scared to hell of her.
I mean, were their energies depleted?
Were they psychically affected in some way?
Records went up enormously after this gal showed up.
It was almost as if I had an epidemic on my hands.
And your production numbers no doubt fell.
Like a rock.
Well, I don't know what to say about that.
Anyway, I guess the situation cleared and it was okay after that.
Yeah.
Uh, there was a new one on me.
I'd never heard of it before.
As a matter of fact, I'd never met a witch before in my life.
So... A witch would know.
Yeah?
Believe me, a witch would know.
Well, that's an amazing story.
You're not employed there any longer.
Uh, no, I'm not employed there any longer.
Uh, I've gotten long in the tooth and retired myself.
I see.
But that's one to remember, huh?
Uh...
It's one that I put in a basket that I have labeled, I haven't got the wildest idea of what it's all about.
Do you often tell people about this?
No.
I appreciate you telling me.
Alrighty.
You have a good morning.
I shall.
Yeah, that many women.
I don't know.
You call them his flock.
Psychic vampires.
We have done a little bit of talk about psychic vampires in the past.
They're an interesting group and they do appear to be real.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi Art, my name's Doug.
I live in Bozeman, Montana.
Yes, sir.
Yeah, I have a kind of crazy calling in actually, just because I always consider myself a fan of yours, but I never thought that Anything strange that ever happened to me?
My wife and I recently moved into a house, oh I'd say about a year ago, and it has a lot of weird things that happened in it.
Anywhere from late at night I'd come home from work, I worked a graveyard shift, and laying on the couch kind of getting ready for bed, and knocking at the rear glass door.
And I'm actually a police officer, so... Oh, you are?
I am, I am.
So it worried me a little bit, of course.
And I'd come home and put my gun belt on the table and saw right away that... You had your gun, sure, of course.
Well, yeah, and it was near the sliding glass door.
And so I quickly got up, rounded the corner, and grabbed that.
You know, because we also bring our own police vehicles home.
How long have you been a police officer?
About five years, I guess.
Five years?
Are you on patrol duty?
I am, yeah.
I was actually a border patrol agent before that, too.
Oh, okay.
But anyway, so things like that.
No one there.
I searched around.
Couldn't find anything.
Stereo turns on a lot on its own.
I don't know.
This place is crazy.
And you know, listen, you talked to the guy earlier about having other concerns about, you know, not moving out of the house because of monetary reasons.
Yeah, absolutely.
And nothing bad has happened.
We found our good pots and pans laying in the middle of the garage cement floor.
But you see, if you listen to his story, it started out with the kind of things that you're describing.
Right.
But it progressed.
Now, I don't know at what point you say, enough, I'm the hell out of here.
Well, luckily enough, actually, I guess we're probably moving for good or bad.
It has nothing to do with the house.
I have another job opportunity somewhere else.
If something seven or eight feet tall, black, And obviously not exactly human as we understand it.
Were to begin approaching you and you had a gun, what would you do?
Well, I don't think I would shoot it.
I wouldn't know what to do.
I deal in the human realm all the time, of course, and if I didn't think it was human, I wouldn't know what to do, honestly.
I'd be a little intimidated.
Laugh about it because I myself am not super convinced as to what's going on.
The knock at the door was the weirdest because, well the second weirdest, just because of the fact that I was right there and I looked around thinking some joker was playing a trick on me, you know, knows I'm a cop or whatever.
But no one was there and they couldn't have gotten away that quickly.
I would think people would be disinclined to play pranks on people they know who have guns.
I never put anything past anyone.
Nothing surprises me.
I did wake up one afternoon with scratch marks on my back, too.
Scratch marks?
Yeah, that kind of worried me.
I was a little bit reluctant to show my wife because, of course, she hadn't placed them Yeah, I understand.
She might be concerned about who did.
Officer, listen, I've got to scoot, because we're at a break point here.
Yeah, well, thank you very much.
Find a new place to live.
Yeah, I'll try my best.
All right, see ya.
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I don't know, I'm ready and I'm really...
Sweet little lady sings like a songbird.
Sings the opera like you ain't never heard it.
But she ain't ready.
No, no, no, she ain't ready.
No, no, no, she ain't ready.
Sweet little lady sings like a songbird Sings me off like I ain't never heard her
But she ain't ready No, no, no, she ain't ready
No, no, no, she ain't ready And she ain't gonna rock and roll
She's beat on And the rock and the music plays
Don't knock your love Lonely day, lonely night
Where would I be without my woman?
Lonely day, lonely night you
Round this day, round this night, where would I be without my woman?
Lonely days, lonely nights Where will I be without my woman?
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I thought we'd talk just a little bit about monsters.
But it's gotten way out of control.
I mean, way out of control.
This is Freaky Stuff, and we'll be right back.
Now we take you back to the night of January 25th, 2002, on Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
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The next caller I actually know the name of, he's Jay in Akron, Ohio, and he just fast-blasted me the following.
Got a weird story for you.
I hit a UFO with my car.
If you'd like to chat with me about it, call so-and-so, and I've got the number, and actually I've got Jay on the line.
Hello there, Jay.
Hi, Art.
How you doing?
Yeah, I hear you fine.
I'm doing okay.
You're in Ohio, huh?
Yeah, I live in Akron.
Yes, sir.
I'm listening to you on WTM.
What happened to you?
Well, this happened about, I don't know, I think 1999, summer of 1999.
I was driving home from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
Right.
And I was on Route 76, or Interstate 76, heading westbound.
And it was about 3 o'clock in the morning.
I was visiting friends and just heading home.
And at night on the freeway, you know, there was hardly any cars, maybe a couple rigs driving by.
I come around the corner, I was doing probably about 70 miles an hour.
Were you in a car or a truck?
Yeah, I was in my car.
I drove on a Nissan.
Alright.
And I had just come around the corner and there was a rig out to the side of the road.
And when I drove by him, he was just sitting there.
And when I drove by him, he blew his truck horn at me.
You know, which I thought was kind of strange.
So I looked back and I just saw him like, you know, just brrrr, and he made the sound.
And I looked around, and I'm like, oh, this is weird.
I don't know what he's doing.
And I looked ahead, and all of a sudden, in the middle of the road was a, I just saw the black outline of it.
And it looked just like the thing that, I forget his name, that guy that found a UFO in, I think it was Washington, and an alien attacked him.
Ah, Dr. Reed.
Yeah, it was shaped like that.
Are you talking about the, what he called the obelisk?
Yeah.
It was shaped like Diablos.
So that trucker, that trucker that blew the horn, was really trying to warn you, wasn't he?
I don't know.
I have no idea why he was sitting there.
Well, if he was stopped, then I would conclude that he saw whatever it was in the road.
Yeah, but the way he blew his horn, it made me turn around and look at him.
And I was like, what the hell's going on?
And then I looked and I saw it.
And it was floating in the middle of the highway.
Just floating?
Just right there in the middle of the highway.
My headlights hit it, but what was weird is like the light didn't really reflect off of it.
It just kind of like absorbed it almost.
Like it wasn't even made of metal.
You know?
My car came right underneath it, and when it did, on top, half of my windshield hit it.
And I had spun out on the road, and I landed in the median, and when I looked around, it was gone.
It was gone?
Yeah.
But the truck was still there.
You know, the truck was sitting where I saw the headlights and everything.
You know, I got stuck.
And I tried to back out and I couldn't do it.
I had to get out of my car and he just left.
He started to roll away and drove right past me and just kept on going.
And I'm sitting in the middle of the road like, what the hell?
But I looked at my windshield and the only thing that damaged my car was the windshield was cracked.
Yes.
So about, I don't know, about 10 minutes later another car came down the road and I waved him over.
I told him I ran off the road.
I didn't tell him about the UFO or anything I hit.
And, um, he helped me get my car out of there.
And the only other damage to my car was I had ripped a metal shield.
It's like a heat shield off the top of my exhaust pipe.
And that was the only other damage to my car besides the crack in my windshield.
Oh, that's odd.
Yeah.
That whole thing is odd.
What do you think you hit?
I have no idea, but, um, I've been trying to call you, I don't know, for the past couple months, but now I kind of forgot about calling you, and then you guys were talking about things in the middle of the road and all that stuff.
So I decided, you know, fax blast you to see if you could, you know, get ahold of me or whatever.
Well, I did, and I appreciate your story.
I don't know, I don't even begin to know how to diagnose what happened to you.
You know, it was pretty weird.
I mean, you know, but... But you're sure of one thing.
You're sure that whatever it was, was just hovering there.
It was just hovering.
We're in Mill Road, and I hit it at about 70 miles an hour, and I mean, I don't even know if I damaged it or whatever.
All I remember is this big thunk.
That's incredible.
He probably didn't want anything to do with anything.
you know. That's incredible. And I turned around, you know, looking around. I couldn't
really see much. I just saw a truck off in the distance.
You know, I think it was gone because I got out of my car. I didn't see it. You probably
didn't want anything to do with any of it. But I'm standing there looking at him and
he just drives away. He just pulls away and you know, it was like one of those, I forget what
kind of trucking company it is, the person you mentioned. No, don't please. But it's
not necessary.
You know, it's human nature.
I mean, I really think the guy probably had seen this and was stopped looking at it and was trying to warn you.
How much?
How much?
He hit it two or something.
I have no idea.
It was just weird.
It was a weird occasion.
Weird Ohio.
Weird Pennsylvania.
Thank you.
Yeah.
All right.
Thanks.
Take care.
All right.
There you go.
For what it's worth.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hello, Warren.
Yes, my name is Albert, and I'm calling from California.
Yes, sir.
And my story is this.
I'll try to make it short.
Routinely, in a previous house that I was living in, it was a rented house.
We had a separate garage from the house, and I would operate a ham shack out of the garage, as well as I had a workbench where I would put together printed circuit boards.
Your ham?
Yeah.
Finally, I spent a lot of evening hours inside that shed and, you know, nothing unusual happened other than, you know, just listening to you on the radio.
But one night I was working on a circuit board and then all of a sudden I start hearing like a crunching sound on top of the garage roof.
Crunching?
Yes, like somebody really heavy weight walking on top of the roof.
And since I have, uh, I had set up a lot of antennas on top of the roof for different frequencies.
I hear you.
It's like, oh my god, my antennas.
Exactly.
Either my antennas or somebody was out there to do something to them, you know?
So, immediately, I opened up, I had a mag light, you know, one of these big flashlights, and I walked outside the back side of the garage and shined the light up on top of the roof.
Right.
And what I saw, Art, is something that was so incredible that to this day I'm still freaked out over it.
I can't understand what I saw, but basically it comes in line with what you guys have been talking about.
It was like a black figure.
It was tall.
This thing was tall.
It was at least six and a half feet tall.
And it was totally black.
It seemed like it just was a figure of a person, but not quite.
And again, the same thing.
Like, almost like it had red, red eyes.
And it just stood there and stared back at me.
And I said, God, this must be somebody wearing a disguise or something, you know?
Right.
That's when the mind tries to make it into something we understand.
Yeah.
And then I said to myself, I'm going to catch this sucker because I'm not going to allow him to, you know, be on top of my roof.
Screw with my antennas.
Exactly.
You know, it stood there for a moment and it was stunned, and it was just staring back at me, and then it turned towards the left, and walked towards the edge of the roof, hopped off, and it's not an easy jump, you know, but it hopped off, and I could hear it hit the ground, and I went out towards the front of the garage, and by the time I made it to the front, it was gone.
Nowhere to be found.
What about footprints?
No footprints.
What about damage to your antennas?
Nothing at all.
Nothing at all.
And I still can't explain what it was, but it just was something that I've never experienced before in my life.
It just left me stunned.
You operate on low bands?
I operate on basically 2 meters and 440.
Running a lot of power?
No, not much.
Just kidding.
All right, well, listen, I appreciate the story.
Do you have any afterthoughts on what you saw, what that was?
No, but I had another phenomenon happen in the same house to where we eventually just moved out of the place.
But, God, that was the most scariest one of all.
Well, it did it for me.
Thank you very much.
I can only imagine.
Of course, everything I own has antennas growing from it.
You know, my house, all my cars, and the RV.
Oh, the RV has a lot of antennas growing from it, and if anything were crunching on my roof, I would react exactly as he did.
Maybe.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hello, Art.
Yes, hi.
This is David, WGE 1360, Green Bay.
Yes, sir.
Last night I heard you talking about the Mothman, and I heard you make mention of a bat showing up on your porch after your father's passing.
That certainly did happen, yes.
Okay, I have something similar that happened.
Our family, well the last three generations have been in one house and I'm 51 now.
In 1996, well in 1995 my mother became ill.
She became so ill that my younger brother and I moved in with her to care for her.
In September of 1996, on my daughter's 16th birthday, my mother passed away.
About a month later, sometime in October, I worked nights and my brother I came home from work and I went into the house.
My mother had been dead for about a month.
My brother was in the kitchen making coffee and I said hi to him, went upstairs, turned the hall light on and went upstairs.
Down the hall on the left was my bedroom and on the right was her old bedroom.
Both bedroom doors were open.
The hall light was shining into both.
I turned right into my bedroom, clicked on a light change, my house closed, and came out into the hall.
I clicked off my bedroom light and came out into the hall.
As I passed by my mother's open bedroom doorway, my shadow went past her bed, but it was not in sync with my body.
It seemed to move either slow or fast.
I can't remember which now.
Wow, that's odd.
I took a step back, and the hall light was shining behind me, kind of going into her room.
Sort of testing your own shadow again?
Yes, exactly.
I just stopped and I looked, and I could see this little black shadow flitting around, and I realized a bat in my mother's old bedroom.
And I was so flipped, I could not reach out and touch that door knob.
He shut the door and I went downstairs and I said to Allie, my brother, I said, Allie, there is a bat up in Mama's old bedroom.
He goes, what?
I said, there's a bat up there.
And I told him I wasn't going to go up there.
So he got on.
My brother loves animals.
He's not afraid of them.
He got these pair of leather gloves on and I got a sack.
He's going to go catch the bat.
Yes, he did.
He brought it downstairs about 5-10 minutes later.
I was sitting at the kitchen table.
I ran the rod upright.
I mean, I wasn't moving.
He said, I'm going to release it out in the backyard.
My brother loves animals.
He said, come on along.
I said, I haven't.
There's no way.
And he said, well, it's more afraid of you than of it.
That's an old wives tale about them landing in your hair, which I knew.
I went out there, tipped the bag over.
I was standing back about 15 feet.
Well, first it was upright.
The bat wouldn't leave.
Then he tipped the bag over in the grass.
In the bat, I guess it's got little claws on its wings or something.
He was telling me you have to be really careful of them because their bones are so fragile you'll break them.
So it climbed out of the bag and into the grass and made a couple of swoops around the yard.
I remember ducking and it just kind of went north into these other neighbors' backyards and disappeared.
The thing is, when I heard you talk about your father and the bat, I just about fell out of my chair.
I had to call you up and tell you this.
My mother was such a good person.
If this had happened before she had died, I think, well, it was somewhat portentous.
But this was like a month afterwards.
I don't know if there would be a connection or not.
Who knows about these things?
I appreciate the story.
It was an odd story.
My father, as you probably know, had cancer and was in the final stages of that cancer, and I had booked a flight to be leaving that day, as a matter of fact, to go be with him.
I don't know if you all knew this or not, and I was booked on a flight that day, and I got a call in the middle of the night.
And that morning, that same morning, something really, really, really strange happened.
I mean, it just doesn't happen.
merciful as opposed to going through the end stages the very end stages of cancer
You know he just had a heart attack and suddenly passed away and
that morning That same morning something really really really strange
happened. I mean it just doesn't happen It's never happened before nor since
We went out to the porch and There on our porch was a bat
This is in the summer, here in the desert.
There was a bat on our porch, just sitting there.
We thought it was dead, but it wasn't dead.
We thought it was sick, but it wasn't even apparently sick.
So my wife scooped up the bat and we took the bat into the causeway Weather was shade because, you know, it was very hot here in the summer.
The desert, very hot.
And the bat just remained in the causeway.
And when we got up much later, after dark, the bat was just gone.
That bat stayed here all day.
It just stayed the day.
It was odd.
It was really odd.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Yeah.
First, I was over at my friend's house about two years ago.
I was about 15 then.
He was petrified going into the woods behind his house after dark.
Now I know for good reason.
We were going back there, right?
I like hiking, and I especially like going out during the night.
Right.
Okay?
Well, he goes to put the flashlight down to tie his shoe.
I see something kind of palish, about three feet tall, a scamper in front of a light, and down this hill it's 80 degrees.
About 50 feet down.
Uh-huh.
And he's like, I'm like, you know, get up, get up, what was that?
He's like, I've seen that before, you know, that's why I don't want to come out here, let's go back.
What exactly did you see?
He's telling me it's a monster or something that's back there.
I think it's his little brother or something.
You know, he is convinced though.
Of course, I know it's not his little brother because, you know, he was out for a nice friend's house, you know.
And now, you know, he's had bad dreams about it.
Because, you know, it's in his backyard.
And then I have a second story.
My grandma's house.
She's been renting it.
Before she died, she rented it out.
Right.
This is in Detroit, right?
Yes.
So, you know, old murder capital of the world.
A person got murdered there.
My cousins are messing around with the Ouija boards.
They live there now.
One night, we're messing around with it.
I fall asleep because I... You know, wait a minute.
Let's back up here a little bit.
Yeah.
Let's consider the wisdom of, you're in Detroit, the old murder capital, there was somebody murdered in the house where you are, and you're cranking out a Ouija board.
I was skeptical because I'm, you know, I used to be that way about ghosts and monsters.
I know that this whole scenario is just, it's not very bright.
I mean, you already know you're in a bad house, and you're bringing out a Ouija board.
You're just asking for trouble.
Yeah, so I fell asleep, you know.
You fell asleep?
Yeah.
My cousins are sitting there when I wake up.
The Ouija board is like three inches off the floor.
Floating there.
Floating above the floor?
Yes, and the pointer was three inches above that.
Floating above the Ouija board.
Now, that freaked me out.
And I have a real quick question.
A guy came on your show a few days ago, called himself Messenger 666.
Yeah.
I'd like to hear him again or something, if he ever comes in, because he says he's correctly predicted four signs of the apocalypse.
Yes, I recall.
Okay, because I haven't heard those.
I've heard about the supernova.
He said it was a hundred-some days until something happens.
Yeah.
Well, why worry about that when I had a caller just a little while ago who said later today at six-something or another, 657 p.m.
Pacific Time, there's big giant comets coming by, And it's going to cause massive electrical storms here on Earth and murder most electronic equipment.
Because he says our government diverted it.
Our government can barely put a man on the moon.
I don't believe that we can divert a comet.
Not if it's really coming, sir.
I don't believe it either.
I appreciate your call.
Yeah, have a good night.
Yeah, alright.
Have a good night.
And a good day too, especially a late afternoon, right?
Oh, Doom, thy many names.
From the high desert, I'm Art Bell, and we're into open and very weird lines.
You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from January 25th, 2002.
January 25, 2002.
What a tale my thoughts could tell Just like an old time movie About a ghost from a wishing well In a castle dark or a fortress strong With chains upon my feet You know that ghost is me And I will never be set free As long as I'm a ghost you can't see If I could read your mind, love
What a tale your thoughts could tell Just like a paperback novel
The kind the drugstore sells When you reach the part
Where the heartaches come The hero would be me
The hero of the day You won't read that book again
Because the ending's just too hard to take I'd walk away
Like a movie star Who gets burned in a three-way strip
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Weird stories on the radio?
Must be Coast to Coast AM with George Norris.
You know, when I started doing this radio program, Jesse, half of the subjects I was really into.
The paranormal, the unusual, ghosts and things like that.
The conspiracy stories, you know, I was a little weary about these, other than the Kennedy assassination.
And all of a sudden, I woke up.
I simply woke up.
Is that what happened with you two?
Yeah.
That's when I really started to say, what is going on here?
And I started to truly then investigate 9-11.
And today, I don't believe the government story of 9-11.
Here's the three options.
Either we knew about it and allowed it to happen, or we knew about it and participated in it, or these were the dumbest You're listening to Art Bell, somewhere in time, on Premier Radio Networks.
who could have all this pre-information.
And I started to think they knew what was going to happen.
They either are part of it or they allowed it to.
There's no doubt in my mind.
You're listening to Art Bell, somewhere in time, on Premier Radio Networks.
Tonight, an on-going presentation of Coast to Coast AM from January 25th, 2002.
And back into the night sky we go.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air.
Good morning.
Hello, sir.
Hello.
Mr. Bell.
Yes.
I've been listening to talk shows for many, many years, but I got turned on to you.
I was channel searching a couple of weeks back, and you played Some Velvet Morning.
It knocked me out.
Oh, that song has knocked me out.
Awesome.
I've heard it again.
Yes.
By the way, be sure your radio's off all the way, please.
Okay, it's about 30 feet away.
Is this better?
No, don't do that.
Okay, just give me one second and I'll be right back.
It's not good.
No, you want to have your radio nearby so you can turn it off when you actually get on the air.
That's the trick.
Still there, sir?
Yes.
Alright, thank you.
It's not good.
No, you want to have your radio nearby so you can turn it off when you actually get
on the air.
That's the trick.
Otherwise...
Still there, sir?
Yes.
All right.
Thank you.
Proceed.
You know, they talk about ghosts.
I got a belief that they're on a mission to either scare or a mission to save.
And in my case, they saved me.
By the way, I'm calling.
I'm Dave from Hawaii.
And as a child, I was raised in Japan as a missionary kid.
And we lived about a quarter mile from the railroad tracks.
And back then, those locomotives are huge, 100 feet long.
What part of Japan were you in?
About 50 miles north of Tokyo.
And so it was in the middle, we had our house in the middle of probably 100 acres of rice paddies.
And this track, this double track, ran right through the rice paddies.
Nobody, nobody, you never see anybody walking along the tracks.
It's just impossible.
One day my mom said, Dave go and buy a dozen eggs at this old farmer's house across the tracks.
So I jump on my bike.
I pass over the track.
I buy my dozen eggs.
I'm coming back and there's this long train.
I'm coming up probably about 100 feet to the tracks.
I'm timing it.
You know, when you're a kid, I'm about eight years old, you know, you like to take stupid chances.
So I see the caboose coming around.
And this thing's going maybe 65 or 70 miles an hour, just chugging and going.
And I'm saying, okay, I'm going to see how fast and how close I can get to that caboose.
It's a two-lane railroad track, okay?
One going one way, one going the other.
And there's only about 10 feet, 15 feet at the max separating the two.
This thing, I'm going up to it, and the train is going to my right, toward my right.
I see the caboose coming, I'm timing myself, okay, I'm gonna get this sucker, I'm gonna go right, I'm gonna, I'm gonna kiss this caboose right on the side.
And, I'm timing now, I'm coming up to that big thing, and I'm going, I'm, I must be going, uh, 15, 20 miles an hour in my, in my, you know, it's... Oh, all of a sudden, you're doing this on a run, then, in other words?
Right!
Oh, man.
I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm just, I'm blitzing it, okay?
Man, it's okay.
And I've crossed this track a thousand times.
I should know better.
Yes, indeed.
No, what happened is the caboose passes.
I barely skimmed that caboose.
Somehow, I hear this scream on the left, across the tracks, on the track area.
This whole thing is like 30 feet.
It's an abutment above the rice paddies.
Okay.
There's this guy dressed in, there again, it's that word, black.
I couldn't see the face.
All I could see was a figure waving his arms, screaming at me.
And he must have been screaming loud because this train was just passed.
All right.
I looked to the left.
I see this guy screaming at me.
I looked to the right, but this time I had crossed the track.
And I'm headed in this no-fly zone, so to speak, headed for the next track, which is about to come.
And I see on my right this huge local... I mean, is it?
Oh, my God.
Come in the other way.
Just come in the other way.
I must have missed that thing by inches.
I mean, I had sprayed, missed everything all over my face.
My bite, I fell down.
I cracked a couple of eggs.
I mean, it was horrendous.
The train, and I'm sitting there shaking, shaking.
This train passes.
It must have taken forever to pass.
It passes.
The capoose leaves.
I'm still on the ground on my knees.
I get back shaking on my bike.
I don't even, I'm walking the bike over the next, the rail, and I'm coming down, and I get on the bike.
I don't remember this guy, and I start going down the hill, and I say, wait, what happened?
And I look back, and this guy, was non-existent nowhere it was a rest at his all around
this black figure that they're not going to be uh... i've gone right through
that countryside actually you probably have
passed our old house in uh... it's uh... next to the computer
and uh... you bet as you uh... move out of tokyo by train you you do that
You pass right through rice paddies.
Yes.
And nobody walks the train tracks.
So this guy, I've never seen him since, but this guy was a ghost.
This guy was a ghost and he saved my life to this day.
I'm 50 years old.
I look back and I think about that experience all the time.
I appreciate the call, sir. Thank you. Thank you, sir.
That saved his life. Maybe. Maybe. You know, we assign certain motivations to paranormal
things that happen and that might not have been the case.
Maybe it did save his life, and maybe it was there to warn him, and maybe it was there to observe what was about to happen, and maybe a lot of things, but, you know, we attach, I guess, after periods of time, we assume, we start to make assumptions.
Well, it's an interesting night, sir.
How are you doing?
Oh, I'm doing just fine.
I've got a story for you and also got a little bit of a theory on some of this stuff.
Okay.
I've talked to you a couple of times before.
My name is Shane.
I got a story for you and also got a little bit of a theory on some of this stuff.
I've talked to you a couple of times before.
My name is Shane.
I'm from Tulsa.
When I was growing up, my best friend was a girl named Janet.
We were probably seven or eight years old.
She had a little sleepover party with a bunch of the girls that were her age that were her friends.
They played with Ouija boards for several hours.
This was a long time before the whole thing with Ouija boards came out.
I had never even heard of a Ouija board back then.
We were just a bunch of kids.
She found it in her mom's closet and was playing with it.
For the next probably close to ten years after that we had all kinds of problems.
Every time that she would get a boyfriend it got really bad when she started dating.
Things would happen.
She would wake up in the middle of the night and she would see like a dark figure at the foot of her bed.
She would turn the light on and it would be gone.
She would start to leave her room and the door would slam her face.
Uh, just, you know, things like that just constantly.
Um, but, uh, it got really bad after she started dating.
They started throwing things at people, usually knives.
Knives?
This has happened in public places.
Young teenage girls, they're really, really, really a problem.
But, uh, she, uh, she didn't really handle it well.
She freaked all the time.
Uh, the area that I'm from in Virginia is a very heavy-duty Baptist, you know, hellfire and brimstone kind of Sure.
The more agitated she would get, the more prolific this thing would get with her.
It got worse and worse and worse.
I don't know how many boyfriends she lost because of it.
The only time that it didn't seem to bother her, or at least didn't bother her as much, was when I was around.
It got to the point where there were times that I would spend weeks at her house because The fact that that was the only way she got any rest is if I was in the room with her sitting in the chair beside her bed.
And this went on for years, on and off.
Really bad, and then it would slack off, and then it would get bad again.
But knives actually through the air?
In the middle of a restaurant, actually.
In the middle of a restaurant?
There's a restaurant, it's called an Italian Village.
I don't know if you've ever heard of it.
No.
It's just like a little pizzeria kind of thing.
But I know any knives coming through the air in a restaurant would ruin my meal.
Well, there's a little area next to the counter where you place your order and everything, and right there beside it, Is this little, you know, the standard little cafeteria knife and fork dispenser thing?
Yes.
Um, and there's, you know, sharp, sharper knives.
They're not really like, uh, real sharp.
It's a serrated edge knife.
Right.
Um, in the containers along with forks and spoons and stuff like that.
She was sitting 15 feet away in a booth.
There was nobody at the counter, nobody behind the counter.
And, uh, a knife started flipping out of the thing and flying across the restaurant at, uh, Chris, who was her boyfriend at the time.
It happened in the presence of 40 people.
This would slow you down as a boyfriend?
Yeah.
It got to the point where nobody would date her because of it.
But this went on and on.
It didn't seem to bother her little brother.
It didn't seem to bother her mother.
It was very focused around Janet.
It went on until we were well up in our teens.
Like I said, when I was in the house, if it did anything, it was mischievous things like hide things of that nature.
She would find the Ouija board out on her bed all the time.
Didn't you ever feel compelled to sit down as you noticed she was taking a cotton to somebody or a relationship was beginning?
Didn't you ever feel compelled to sit down and say, listen, my friend, you really don't know what you're getting into here?
Well, you know, Janet was my best friend.
And you know, I wanted her to be happy.
And she would come and go, like I said.
She would have like spells and nothing would happen for a long time.
Do you still maintain contact with Janet?
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
You do.
Do you think Janet would talk about this?
I kind of doubt it.
She's pretty scared still.
She doesn't like to talk about it.
She doesn't even like to talk about it with me.
I can ask her, but I don't know.
Why don't you ask her for me?
I'll do that.
I'll send you an email if she says yes.
Would you?
Yeah.
You know the address, right?
Right.
But this went on right up through high school and everything.
It did get involved after I got married.
My wife, who at that time was my fiancée, Janet used to compete in beauty pageants and this thing would follow her to different places.
One time, her and my wife, my wife was going to help her with her makeup and her dress and stuff during a particular pageant.
It hid the makeup case from them.
She had her own little dressing room and there was nobody else in there.
They had the makeup case and turned around to help her apply the makeup.
Turned back around and the makeup case was gone.
They looked for it for two and a half hours.
They couldn't find it.
You talk to Janet for me.
Okay?
Anyway, the other thing I was wanting to tell you is that I've got a theory about this.
And?
I honestly think that this is fairly valid, given the circumstances of what I've seen.
I don't think that everything that people see as poltergeist ghosts, that kind of thing, are actually dead people.
I'm not saying that they're not, but I don't think necessarily.
They started off as people or whatever.
The truth is we don't know what these things are, sir.
Exactly.
But the thing of it is I think that they feed on things.
I think that when a person is... I mean, it's like a stray dog.
If you feed it, it comes back.
That's an interesting analogy.
And I think that what is happening is a lot of times when something like this comes into a home, it's looking for a free meal.
And it finds strong emotion.
And it feeds.
It feeds.
I think that you've got good and bad of these things.
It's just like a particular taste.
Maybe this particular entity has developed a taste for terror.
In order to obtain food, it's going to start doing stuff to make you afraid.
The more afraid you are, the better it's eating.
Yeah, that's entirely possible.
Totally possible that it feeds off emotional energy and fear is about the strongest thing you're going to come upon.
Honestly, I'm just curious, out of your audience, if there were any reported cases of something like this happening to an atheist.
To an atheist?
You're on the air, hello.
Hello?
all and lack of belief you know and i have found a milk or whatever i got your
right thank you very much uh... do these things happen to atheists
all yes i think so uh... how they react to it is an interesting question and
perhaps an eighty years down there who's had something like this happen i would be willing to
comment that would be intriguing
what about these are on the air hello hello yes alone at that i wanted to tell about something
that i had being armed from inglewood california
There's a street that goes east-west called Hyde Park Boulevard.
It goes between Centennial Boulevard and Marlboro.
Yes, ma'am.
The only reason I'm saying this, you never know, somebody might be listening who saw this, but it's pretty heavily traveled and I was going, there's a place right Just as you start going eastbound where it goes down and then comes back up almost like a roller coaster.
Well, there was a youngish black couple that were standing, leaning against a fender of a car, maybe like a late 60s or early 70s car.
Right.
And they were standing in the street, you know, facing toward the middle of the road.
Right.
And they were sat just side by side, talking.
And between them and me was another car, and this guy was driving crazy.
I don't know if he was drunk or what, but it almost seemed to me As if he was aiming for them.
This happened like maybe a hundred, oh, probably 150, 200 feet away ahead of me.
And it's like he was aiming at their legs.
And, you know, it was like watching something horrible that was going to happen.
Was he driving erratically otherwise?
He actually seemed to be aiming at them.
So he took a bead on them?
That's what it looked like to me.
And it's like, you know, you're seeing this happening and you know it's going to be awful if it happens.
Of course, yes.
Oh, I didn't want to see this, you know.
And it was the darndest thing I ever saw.
These two people, in one motion, without flexing their knees, without showing any effort whatsoever, went straight up and back, and they were standing on the fender of that car.
Now, I could have seen them.
What?
If they knew, if they had some participation in this miraculous escape, they would have been sprawling You know, over the hood, or you would have seen them jumping with different motions.
But they just, it's as if something was standing above them and picked them straight up.
And then they were standing without having moved a muscle on the fender of that car.
And so, my God, now are you sure?
And the car swept on past.
It didn't hit the car that was on.
Are you sure of what you saw?
Oh, I'm positive.
Absolutely.
This happened in broad daylight.
Now listen, hold on for a few.
And they looked at each other and laughed.
Listen, I've got a break.
Can you hold on?
Sure.
All right, hold on.
Maybe this is what happens when you call into the nighttime.
I don't know.
I'm Art Bell from the high desert.
This is Coast to Coast AM, and we're not done.
Not yet.
You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time on Premier Radio Networks.
Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from January 25, 2002.
She's coming in twelve thirty-five Moonlit wings reflect the stars that guide me toward
salvation I stopped an old man along the way
Hoping to find some old forgotten words Or ancient melodies
He turned to me and Sing your song for everyone else
Gonna be some sweet love Coming down in the night
I bet you're singing proud Oh, I bet you're full of pride
Gonna be a long night Gonna be alright
You found another home.
I know you're not alone.
I know you're not alone on the night shift Oh, you found another home
I know you're not alone on the night shift Jackie, I don't care what you're doing
Right here on the night shift.
I'm Art Bell.
the day when we were working
You're listening to Art Bell's Somewhere in Time Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from
January 25th, 2002 That's me, alright
Right here on the night shift I'm Art Bell, this is Coast to Coast AM
Now we take you back to the night of January 25th, 2002 on Art Bell's Somewhere in Time
Somewhere in Time Somewhere in Time
Somewhere in Time Back now into the night, here's an interesting fast blast from Daniel in Reedley, California, who says, referring to the lady on the line here, he says, you know, that happened to me when I was 71.
I was walking along a canal.
I'm sorry, he was 7.
Not 71.
When I was 7, I was walking along a canal, and as I threw a rock in, I fell in.
I was drowning.
But then, I was lifted out, and nobody was there.
That sound familiar?
Ma'am?
Oh, that sounds exactly right.
Absolutely certain.
These people were lifted up vertically.
How easily could you jump straight up with somebody else beside you, both of you in one motion, jump straight up and then go backwards without any visible effort?
Could you do that?
I couldn't either.
And you saw this with your own eyes.
I saw it.
And this car in front of you would have hit them had they remained where they were.
They would have definitely been left with stumps if they were even alive.
I mean, it was going to be a horrible thing.
The car, you know, veered towards them and paralleled the car that they ended up on top of, that they were standing in front of.
Probably missed it by, oh, inches.
And then continued on down the road.
And these two just looked at each other and they were just stunned and they just started laughing.
Laughing?
They were laughing like they couldn't believe it.
They both experienced this together and they just couldn't believe it.
Did you stop?
No, I know I didn't.
You kept going.
I kept going.
I should have stopped.
I should have said, what was that?
It was just an amazing thing to see.
And I thought after that, I really began to think maybe they really are angels.
Because there's no way possible, even with good reflexes.
That they could have done that.
I hear you.
I appreciate the story.
Thank you.
Take care.
Maybe, maybe angels.
I don't know.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
All right, how are you doing tonight?
Okay, where are you?
I'm actually right near Chicago.
Okay.
A small little town there.
It actually just happened when I was about five years old, and I told this to a couple people.
It's probably going to make your hair stand on end, even though I know you've heard a thousand crazy things from a thousand different people.
My father, when I was younger, he was in the real estate and he bought a lot of property.
The house we eventually moved into, which my parents still live in today, is legitimately haunted.
I can say this because when I was about five years old, he came to see the property and it was on the market and it was extremely cheap for the size of a house in the neighborhood.
When it was questioned, the person's brother said, well, my sister died in the house.
Turns out she was murdered in the house.
Murdered?
Yes.
She was actually pushed down the stairs.
That will drive the price of any house down.
And the funny thing is, when we were going, I mean, everything was still there.
All her possessions.
Nothing was moved out.
When we moved in, everything was, you know, it was just left to us.
Well, you see, people don't like buying houses where there's been a murder for this exact reason.
And so the way it works is, My staircase, it goes down, it turns and then it goes down again.
Right.
Well, right to the left where the stairs go down is a little room.
We call it the library because we store our books and stuff like that.
A couple of days into the house, my parents were cleaning it out and everything like that, I went into this room and there was a chair in the middle of the room.
I sat down in the chair.
In fact, I'm pretty nervous talking about it now.
I sat in this chair.
There was, um, on top of these shelves were these mannequin heads.
Mannequin heads?
She had fewer wigs.
Oh, I see.
And the thing is, when I sat in the chair, it felt like somebody had, like, I don't know if you've ever been hit in the head, and you get that feeling for a second.
Yes?
You know, it was like that.
I got this feeling like I hit in my head, and then I heard a chattering.
And the chattering got louder and the chattering got louder and it got louder and I'm five years old and I'm sitting in this chair looking at these heads and it was very intense and my father screamed at me to like get out of that chair and I snapped out of it.
Do you think those heads were chattering?
I don't know.
I have no... I don't think it was the heads.
I think it was more of the... I had all this going on and I'm looking at these heads.
I'm looking all around the room.
I'm only like five years old.
And he screams, and he's like, get out of the chair.
That's the chair she died in.
Oh.
Sheesh.
She fell down the stairs, crawled over to the chair, got in the chair, and died.
And died there.
Uh-huh.
Aye yi yi yi yi.
Yeah.
So, you don't live there anymore, right?
Actually, no.
I moved out about three or four months ago.
Just recently got married.
Very recently, huh?
Yeah, but instances all over the house, I've seen her I had that experience.
I saw her silhouette go across windows.
And this is not Quintanilla stuff, but when I was a kid, I used to tell my friends, I have a ghost in the house, and they'd be like, no you don't.
And one time, just joking around, I said, her name was Marguerite.
I said, Marguerite, why don't you show yourself?
And a silhouette went across the windows of a figure.
Yeah, my ma saw her from her bedroom.
She was reading a book.
She looked up.
We have a hallway and she looks up from her, where she was in bed, the door was open.
She said she saw her float across, look at my mom, keep floating.
Yeah.
All right, well I appreciate the story, sir.
And I know exactly the kind of stairwell that he's talking about.
It goes down one flight of stairs.
And then it turns and goes down another flight, but before it turns there's a little area
there.
you.
And a lot of people have little storage areas in that area.
You know, it's easy to build a little storage area in there.
And the chair where she died, oh great.
Well, you see, that is why people don't move into those kind of homes where there's been a murder.
Yikes.
Wildcard Line, you're on the air, hello.
Hello, Mr. Bell, calling from Chicago area WLS.
Yes, sir.
I had a few stories.
I had an entity attack one evening that left a scar on my arm.
What kind of attack, sir?
It was very strange.
It was waking up, and it was like the twilight time in the morning, and it was definitely a human figure, and the only way I could describe it, it was almost like a melee, in a sense.
I was confronted with this entity, and then We're standing in place, squared off against each other, and... This entity that looked like what?
It was a human.
It was a human.
Some type of, uh... It was a male human.
Um, it looked like dressed in armor.
And, uh... It... At some point, I saw something out of the corner of my eye in a dream state, and... Something hit my arm.
And then, um... The next morning when I woke up, I thought it was just a strange dream, but I had a scab running Right by the crook of my elbow, running up my arm.
And it was indirectly where this thing had hit me in the dream state.
And it had already scabbed by morning?
Yeah.
It was scabbed over in the morning.
It was very, very strange.
So who did you tell?
I just called to let you know that it was an energy attack, but it wasn't any type of dark being, because I've seen a shadow person.
And this was a male human.
In the dream state that left a scar, but this shadow person encounter that I had was very strange because I was sitting at a desk in front of a computer and it was almost like a perspective change because I saw the back of the chair and behind the chair crouched was the shadow person in a humanoid form and it was strange because I was looking at the computer and this was behind the chair
and I could see that myself in the chair and the shadow person
Well, let me try and give you an explanation of why this might be happening
This is just a stabbed in the dark folks, and it could be totally wrong
But in the world of computers in the days of computers which are these days
we have monitors and they have scan rates and They're very scan rate of fast scan rates a
Really good monitor has a very fast scan rate So fast that you do not perceive with your eye the flickering of the screen.
That used to be a problem.
There would always be a little flicker in there, right?
Well, today's modern monitors are set up so that they're moving so fast, scan rate-wise, you don't see that flicker.
However, What I do believe may be occurring to you is that your eyes and your brain, because your eyes are attached to your brain, are adjusting to this different scan rate.
Are you all following me?
It's just a theory, folks.
I believe your eyes are adjusting to this new and different scan rate, and as you spend hours in front of a computer, you slowly begin to see at a different frequency.
And as you see at a different frequency, you begin to see things that exist in a different frequency.
Now, you've heard the Art Bell Theory of why some things may be seen that are therefore have not been seen, and why it's getting so prolific, and frequently, why it seems to have to do with people who are nearby computers.
Just a thought, folks.
It's mine, and I've been thinking it over.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hi, this is Bill in West Hartford, Connecticut.
Yes, Bill.
Paul earlier asked if any atheist had ever had any paranormal or ghost.
And you probably just about broke a finger trying to get in from that point on.
So, Bill, have you ever had an experience?
Actually, thank goodness, no.
Except for one thing that is very interesting.
I'll tell you about it in one second.
It's not a ghost, but it certainly is very inexplicable to me.
I want to say, first of all, before I tell you the event, if anything did paranormal happen to be at all, I would be scared blankless, no end.
I would not want at all any paranormal or ghost events or monster events ever to happen to me in my life.
Now, having said that, sometime in the 1970s, roughly between 1970 and 1980, I can't pin it down any easier than that, when I was living at my parents' house at that time, I was in my 20s, between age 20 and 30 at the time, In my parents, in my room upstairs, upstairs in my parents' house, still in the same city, West Hartford, Connecticut, there was one time, this has to do with a pool of water, I'm going to explain, a pool of water about a diameter of a yard, three feet, three foot yard circle of water that inexplicably was on the floor in my bedroom.
Now, it had been raining outside.
Yes, it had been raining, but the windows were closed, I remember.
There's no opening on the roof.
And this is right in the center of the floor of my room, not near the window, so it wasn't like the rain somehow seeped through an open window.
Do I remember the window?
So how, Bill, did it get there?
Yes, how did, uh, uh, like a, you know, a large circle of water, about three foot, say like a big pool of water.
My mother said to me, did you urinate on the floor?
Of course not, Mom.
No, I did not.
Believe me, I did not urinate, do that on the floor.
She, she was inexplicable.
She went and she got some mops and dried it up.
And I was just wondering, how the heck did a big pool of water get on the floor?
That's the only thing in my whole life that is inexplicable to me that I can't explain.
I don't know how it happened.
Now, does that mean a ghost, would you say?
Or a monster, or a ghost, or something?
Or how would you... No, Bill, I wouldn't say that.
I'd just say, uh... I don't know what I'd say.
I'd say... I wouldn't put it in the category of a monster, or a ghost, or anything else.
Probably.
But then again, Bill, since you don't believe in anything, why... Why would you put it in any category at all?
Except it got in trouble.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Oh, Art.
Yes.
This is Jenny in St.
Petersburg, Florida.
Yes.
WFLA.
Yes, ma'am.
I just wanted to tell you, um, several years ago, I was just waking up in the morning, and I saw, like, a small...
I don't know.
Maybe this was just my perception.
It looked sort of reddish blue or something.
around your bed? It was sort of like playing around my bed.
Playing? Yeah.
You mean like a little person? A little person. And I opened my eyes and
it seemed to be like a, I don't know, maybe this was just my perception, it looked sort
of reddish blue or something. And when I saw it, it was a surprise that I had seen it.
Yeah, that's classic.
Everybody that's talked to is almost about a shadow person.
Especially when they see them straight on, the way you apparently did.
And they notice each other.
They get startled.
It was startled.
And then it ran.
It was shocked and startled.
And then it ran around my dresser and disappeared.
Well, how were you at that point?
Well, I was...
I don't know.
I didn't know what to think of it.
At the time, I had never heard of shadow people, so I had no idea what it was.
I was living in Virginia Beach, Virginia at the time.
That's where I'm from, and you know that the Casey Foundation is there.
I sure do.
So I asked a few people about it, and most people seemed to think that I had seen some kind of demon.
Adira, you may have seen a demon.
I don't know.
You may have seen just the classic shadow person.
It may be that shadow persons are demons.
I wish I had the answers.
West of the Rockies or on the air?
Hi.
Hi.
Turn your radio off for us, please.
Okay.
Okay, so what's up?
I want to ask you if you've ever had poke fish.
I heard the man from Alaska earlier.
Yes?
Have you had poke fish?
No, I don't think so.
Why?
Why do you ask?
Well, um, my father's Native American and we had poke fish every year until I was like six years old.
Um, and?
Poke fish is, uh, fish that has been buried in the permafrost for... Oh!
Oh!
Six to twelve months.
Right.
And then it's eaten the next season.
But anyways, um, I had a, we, I grew up in a house that had headstones out lining our garden in, in our front yard.
And so, um, we had very interesting entities around the house.
And I swore I had an imaginary friend named Lou.
And when I turned 18, I met her in Alaska.
She's my cousin.
Huh.
Really?
Yes.
Well, maybe you ate too much pokefish.
It's possible.
I don't know.
It is definitely a strange world we live in, isn't it?
Yes.
I thought it was kind of creepy because I had never seen pictures of her before ever and it was just like looking into a mirror.
I hear you.
All right.
Well, listen, thank you very much for the call.
We're out of time.
I've got to go.
I leave you with a song that I think is most appropriate tonight, one that Crystal Gale sang for me and brought to me.
From the high desert, I'm Art Bell.
Ta-ta now.
Midnight in the desert Shooting stars across the sky This magical journey Will take us on a ride Filled with the longing Seeking for the truth Will we make it till tomorrow?
Will the stars shine on you?
Midnight in the desert, I'm a lesson, ooh a lesson to you Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh
Yes!
As the world we live in quits down Are we heeding all the signs?
Have we lost our intuition?
Are we running out of time?
Midnight in the desert And we're listening Ooh, we're listening to you And we're listening
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