John A. Keel’s The Mothman Prophecies explores the 1966–67 West Virginia "vortex" of UFOs, men in black, and poltergeist activity, including the Silver Bridge collapse (Dec. 15, 1967) with 47 deaths, linked by witnesses to Mothman’s red eyes. Keel dismisses extraterrestrial explanations, citing global sightings like Pennsylvania’s giant birds or Switzerland’s field holes, and speculates on "window areas" where dimensions briefly overlap. His investigations revealed government-built underground cities (90+ in the U.S.), Cold War-era whiskey stockpiles, and Pentagon whispers about UFO cover-ups. The 2002 film adaptation starring Richard Gere hints at rising interest—possibly fueling more sightings as tourism surges, mirroring Roswell’s legacy. [Automatically generated summary]
Lots of news for you tonight, and in the next hour, it's going to be kind of interesting because, you know, I've been around the world of paranormal for a long time.
I've been around here for a long time, right?
And I think I know about most things, but tonight, I'll tell you the truth.
I don't know a daggone thing about the Mothman prophecies.
Now, we are going to have the very honorable, the guy to have, under the circumstances, I am told, John A. Keel.
John A. Keel on, and he's going to be talking about the Mothman prophecies.
Now, I don't know anything about Mothman.
I know there's a big movie about to be released, of course.
Big one.
And I will, of course, see that.
But I really don't know about the Mothman, so we'll all learn about that together.
It's one that just through the years somehow escaped me.
Weird, huh?
The news.
Let's see.
The UN Secretary General Kofianan arrived in the Afghan capital.
So they get the UN chief there now, huh?
John Walker Lind faces U.S. government charges today.
He's home now, of course, nearly two months after his capture, that he conspired to kill fellow Americans in Afghanistan.
So they're going to be working on an interesting legal strategy.
I guess they're going to say, you know, he wasn't read his rights and all the rest of it and didn't get a lawyer, didn't get representation.
That's going to be, I think, their case.
And yet I'm told he both vocally and in writing waived his right to a lawyer, which will, I'm sure, be the prosecution's case.
And if he did it in writing, why seems to me legally that's over, but you know, that's for the courts.
The fired auditor, here it is, Enron.
In fact, Enron story has now fulfilled some stupid little prediction I made when the first one appeared that it was going to be like another Watergate now.
It's Enron, Enron, Enron, everywhere.
Anyway, the fired auditor, David Duncan, was solely responsible for the massive destruction of Enron documents.
Officials of the energy company's accounting firm told skeptical lawmakers today, I'm sure they were skeptical, one man did it, and here he is.
That's the way the world works, you know.
That's just the way it works.
President Bush asked Congress for $38 billion.
We need a lot of money.
He said that we have great weapons, that we have, in fact, incredible weapons specific for the job we've been doing in Afghanistan.
You know, bombs that go up your nostril and explode.
They need pinpoint stuff, but they're very expensive.
$38 billion, he would like, for more nostril bombs.
And then there was a pretty weird head shaker that took place today.
A school bus driver with a loaded rifle took 13 children on what appeared to be a six-hour kidnapping.
And oh my God, what a horror story that must have been.
It did end in another state when he turned himself into police.
The children were hurt, but my God, can you imagine the period of time when he had them, you know, with a loaded rifle?
There's intent there when you have a gun, a lot of intent, and it must have been absolutely horrific for the parents.
Here's a kind of interesting email I received from David Kagan.
Do you know who David Kagan is?
He's the author of Sunstroke, which I refer to frequently.
The Japanese, as I told you, are getting ready to put an energy-gathering satellite up, which will beam with microwave, apparently.
Remember, I was wondering about that?
I said, I bet it's microwave.
And the guy who wrote the book about this, David Kagan, writes, Dear Art, I thoroughly enjoyed your Dean Kuntz interview on last night's program, and I am riveted by George Zeiler's report on Stan Romanek's astounding encounters with UFOs.
The number two video really is amazing.
I'm intrigued by the bizarre.
Anyway, let's see, DevNote.
Thank you so much for mentioning my novel, Sunstroke, on last night's broadcast in relation to Japan's NASDA solar demonstration satellite.
My NASA contacts have confirmed their satellite will indeed be utilizing concentrated microwaves to beam solar energy to a receiving antenna on Earth, more power to them.
We can only hope their fail-safe devices that are supposed to kick in during a malfunction are more efficient than the ones I wrote about in the book.
Otherwise, God help us all.
David Kagan.
Yes, indeed.
All kinds of interesting news.
I would like you to go to my website.
In fact, that would be a good idea right now.
And there's a photograph that I want you to see.
Despite some recent disinformation-type articles, the fact of the matter is the Antarctic is melting.
And tonight I have visual evidence for you.
It's an article on Yahoo.
And I think you'll find this absolutely fascinating, frightening.
This really is scary.
It's very legitimate science.
And under the photograph, which, by the way, when you get to the story, it's under What's New about the Antarctic melting or whatever, I forget the title.
Go to the article and then click on the photograph itself to see the full-size picture.
This is really scary.
Under the picture, it says one of the most remote spots on the planet, Sydney Island, off Antarctica, is providing scientists with a pristine natural laboratory to gauge the environmental consequences of rising global temperatures.
Writing in the journal Science, British and Canadian scientists said on Thursday, that's this Thursday, folks, today, a 20-year study revealed dramatic changes in lakes on Sydney Island caused by a 1.8 degrees Celsius rise in air temperature.
This increase triggered a series of changes in the lakes on the island, 435 miles northwest of the Antarctic Peninsula.
Scientists hope polar lakes to be early detectors of change wrought by global warming, and so it is.
Things that should be absolutely solidly frozen are now water.
And when you look at this photograph, it's pretty scary stuff.
Because if I'm guessing right, and I think I am guessing right, the rate of change that we're going to get is going to rapidly accelerate.
It has become my view that we are indeed on the edge of a rapid climate change, and there are a lot of implications for that.
But I feel very strongly it's underway right now, and this photograph is evidence of it.
Other evidence is going to come in very worrisome ways.
The sea levels, should this occur, are going to rise very, very dramatically.
And many people who are above water now would not, under those circumstances, be above water any longer.
They'd be down there so far they'd be wondered about by the next civilization.
So with what's going on in the sun and the now scientifically verified effects occurring here on Earth with the rising temperature, there are interesting things that are beginning to happen.
This photograph is pretty good stuff.
you might want to take a look at the bottom of the world.
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First item, hard to miss, melting Antarctic polar cap.
You can read the entire story, and you can see the rather worrisome photograph.
There, my friend, is where the observable effects begin, but they don't end there.
If this is, again, I'll say, the beginning of a rapid climate change, as scientists are now beginning to warn, interestingly, the cities that we now know, you know, on the east and west coast, you know, a lot of them, Florida, think of New Orleans, get that kind of sea level rise and their history.
Assaudi officials warned Thursday they would not allow, get this, U.S. service women to go around without a head-to-toe robe and criticized Washington for lifting the requirement that its female troops wear the garment.
Now, this could be a serious point of contention with the Saudis.
And I must tell you, it is my firm belief the Saudis don't want our butts there at all.
They really don't want us there.
They've made it clear we've covered up a lot of the negative Saudi reaction that has been going around the world.
You've got to listen to the other world press to know how serious it is.
Saudis really don't want us there.
Yes, they want to sell their oil.
No doubt about that.
But Saudis really don't want us there, perhaps even in a violent way.
So anyway, they're saying that our women have to put on the appropriate garb or else.
Remember the other night we had a story about birds, zillions of birds dying at once?
Well, here it is.
Birds usually perch on power lines without harming a thing.
But in Montgomery County yesterday, the typical bird behavior sent smoke curling from appliances and computer screens and left hundreds of homes without electricity for hours.
In other words, it really, really, really got zapped.
The whole area got zapped in people's computers.
Can you imagine sitting in front of your computer and all of a sudden the room gets very bright and you hear a soft sizzling sound from your computer, accompanied by the acrid smell of burning wires?
Wouldn't be a good day, right?
Anyway, it seems as though a whole lot of birds all at once sat on a power line at about 4 p.m.
And so many birds sat on the power line that the power line above sagged into the power line below.
And when that happened, everything went totally berserk.
That would be a dead short.
Well, of course, the birds immediately became cooked birds, totally cooked, blackened.
And everybody's power went kaboom, a gigantic spike, and yes, indeed, appliances went down, but there was nothing paranormal about it.
It was simply the weight of the birds that did that weirdo.
A scientist in Scotland hopes to create the edge of a black hole on his desk.
He believes that he can freeze light and then see what happens at the rim of the phenomena.
If he succeeds in creating an event horizon, he expects to simulate Hawking radiation, which is believed to be the only particle capable of escaping a black hole.
Nature reports that the physicist there, whose name I will not try to pronounce, from the University of St. Andrews, will use a device the size of a tabletop to carry out the experiment.
Hawking radiation is made up of hidden electromagnetic waves thought to occur when light reaches the event horizon.
As the light waves hit it, they're thought to split into two pairs of particles, or into pairs of particles.
One falls into the black hole, and the other escapes as Hawking radiation.
Do you get the picture?
So they know they've created this black hole because of the Hawking radiation.
Plans to simulate the event horizon using materials recently proved to halt light.
The results will be a naked horizon, he says, That's in quotes, similar to an event but without the black hole.
And so, you know, this is one of those stories that I was telling you about.
Now, if not this man, then somebody else soon is going to push a button on something they are, or we are going to be very sorry about, or maybe won't even have an instant of time to be sorry about it.
There probably is something that could tap virtually the power of creation.
Maybe it's what everybody calls zero point.
Who knows?
But as they begin to tamper around with the things of creation, like black holes, then I tell you, anything could happen.
And if Dr. Kaku, Michio Kaku, were here right now, he would also say that.
He would say, yes, oh, yes, you know, some caution in this area would be advised.
because there is the some believe slim possibility others would say uh...
uh...
probability inevitable profit body of someone to i'm sure that it's going to occur that somebody is going to push a button on an experiment like this and they are going to Maybe it would be like hitting the reset button on your computer.
When you think about it, if something, if the wrong button is pushed and the wrong creative energies are set loose, let's think of it that way, then there could be a creation.
Of course, all that would be here would be lost, but there would be a creation of something.
It's just that it might not serve our purposes to be uncreated in the process.
So scientists are, you know, they're dancing on the edge right now.
And they're on a really big precipice.
And one of these days, one of them is going to push one of these buttons and, you know, inevitably there's going to be a spill.
So I watch these stories very carefully.
There is a small rural town somewhat northeast of the city of Niagara Falls, New York.
One evening, a resident of that town called the local volunteer fire department to request some assistance in removing their cat from a tree.
Since this was a questionable call, the fire control dispatcher called the fire chief at home, asked if he wanted to respond.
Chief said, sure, call out the department since it was early evening.
Shouldn't be a problem for the volunteers to respond.
Fire department responded with a rescue truck which had an extension ladder.
The tree, however, was too tall and too willowy to support the weight of the extension ladder.
Rather than send men back to the fire hall to bring the aerial ladder truck, one of the firefighters suggested an alternate course of action.
Two of the firefighters supported the ladder while a third climbed high enough to tie a rope around the tree at about half its height.
The other end of the rope tied to a trailer hitch on a pickup truck with the truck slowly driven forward, forcing the tree to bend over with the cat in it.
The firefighter was posted to grab the cat as soon as it was within his reach when they pulled it far enough down, right?
Well, here's where you push the button and things go wrong.
The knot securing the rope on the trailer hitch slipped free.
Now, the cat in question was last seen airborne heading south toward the city of Niagara Falls.
And actually, this cat was never seen again.
Ever.
The incident couldn't, I guess, avoid using the word catapult.
And so in description of the incident, they, I'm telling you, did use the word catapult.
That cat, it may be still going.
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There's a killer on the road His brain is squirming like a toad Take a long holiday day Let your children play If you give this man a ride Sweet memory will die Killer on the road Call Art
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I'll tell you to me, when you listen to those words, the doors are singing in time.
They're singing about Osama bin Laden.
If you listen to the words, somebody asked me today If I thought Osama is going to be caught, and I don't know, the answer is I don't know.
You know, I'm told some say he's sick, you know, he has some kind of disease, and if he can't get treatment, he's dead probably already.
But if they don't find him, he is going to take on a very mythic-like quality.
And for an entire generation and more, we're all going to have to listen to various theories of where Osama bin Laden is, what dastardly deed he's planning.
I mean, you can see ahead easily, right?
That's coming.
If they don't get him, he'll be not at all forgotten.
In fact, like the Nazis, you'll hear stories about Osama bin Laden until you die and until your children die and probably for generations thereafter.
Be like the Mothman prophecies, which I know nothing about.
And if you combine it with what I found and put up on the web, you know, from ABC about the planet or sun that might be out there, yeah, it was pretty scary.
Sure.
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But maybe today was a day of prayer for peace, and maybe if people pray, God will divert it.
Well, like everybody, you know, I think he believes there are varying sorts here.
And I think I probably believe that myself, too.
If they're here, they're varying sorts.
I just, you know, his central theme, which is actually a very much a minority theme, is that, you know, they're not friendly.
And I generally agree with that.
If you look at what they do, not what people say so much when they get back from these encounters, but what they do to these people, from my point of view, that's not friendly.
Anyway, on the international line, you are on the air.
I was really interested when you mentioned the clip about Antarctica.
The possible changes that we're going to maybe see with regards to the Gulf Stream could get us into a little bit of a deep freeze up here in Australia.
I just don't know that it applies to these whole range of experiments like this and in this area.
I'm not saying this guy is going to blow up the world, but it is within the range of possibilities of things that could happen when you do these kinds of things, sir.
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Yes, it is, and I'm somewhat uncomfortable, but on the other hand, I would like to tell you why I have the opinion that no great harm will come of any of this.
If you actually go to the front of my website, www.lauren Coleman, L-O-R-E-N-Coleman.com, you'll see the cover of my book.
And actually, I was just in Point Pleasant, West Virginia, where this happened about three weeks ago, talking, re-interviewing the witnesses again and talking to people.
They looked at the cover of my book, and they actually said, this is the best representation of what they actually saw.
A seven-foot-tall creature, no head, gigantic wings, huge red eyes.
In fact, so red and so scary that sometimes that's all the people saw.
For some reason, Lauren, and I don't know what that is, I've gone all the years of my life only hearing references to the Mothman prophecies and never really knowing a dog-on thing about the Mothman.
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Well, it is interesting that here we have a case that's waited 35 years to really come out in the open.
You know, John did a great job with his 1975 book and finally Hollywood's discovering it.
But, you know, 2002 is definitely going to be the year of the Mothman.
So you think the Mothman is going to be like the new chupacabra?
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Well, I think so.
I think what's happening is cryptozoologists, paranormalists, ufologists who have really ignored John's work are all of a sudden going to have to set up and look at what's going on.
You had a 13-month period of an incredible vortex of phenomena.
And he began writing about all of this how long ago, Lauren?
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When he was just in his 20s, he started doing radio shows on UFOs.
And he was a screenwriter and a TV writer.
And then slowly over the years started writing for some of the men's magazines, which were pretty serious in the old days when the True Magazine and different things like that were the only places that you could really talk about Fordian and UFO phenomena.
And John did quite a bit of that.
And then he came into some advances here and there to do some wonderful kind of books like UFO's Trojan Horse.
Well, you know, Lauren, this description really sounds to me like what a lot of people would call an evil entity.
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Yeah, well, I think that John certainly, as the lightning rod for Mothman, has been able to really define Mothman and some of the strange phone calls and entities and all of the things that he'll tell you about tonight.
You know, there are a lot of religious folks out there, and they're going to think this is a demon.
It sounds like a classic demon.
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It's funny.
You can look at it as a demon.
I've interviewed witnesses because if you look at Mothman beyond the context of Point Pleasant, people have seen winged creatures all over the world and all over the United States.
Some people describe these as angels.
So you can look at it in two different perspectives.
Some young kids that I've interviewed that have seen these things without any heads and with wings have talked about angels.
Other people who are chased in the middle of the night by a huge red-eyed creature have a bit more sinister feeling.
Has Mothman ever been known to physically assault humans in any way?
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Mothman itself, no.
What people have due to the linkage, of course, between Mothman and the collapse of the Silver Bridge at the end of the 13-month, and that's a whole different story.
But physically, Mothman never touched any of these witnesses, never scraped against them, never did any of that.
Of course, then I guess they wouldn't be witnesses.
They'd just be dead.
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In 1977, in Illinois, of course, you have the classic case of in Lawndale, Illinois, a young man, Marlowe Lowe, who was picked up by one of these things and carried for 10 feet.
But in Illinois, of course, they're called Thunderbirds.
So it's just the special name of Mothman that's kept Mothman kind of in a different place.
Music the world trade center burned for almost three months a very very long time but not the longest burning fire in the u.s.
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find out what blazes burned a lot longer in order so i came into you sweet lady and so in your mystical god Crystal ball on the table, showing up you to the best.
Seen me catch with them her eyes.
And I knew it was a spell she cast.
She's the devil woman, the people wanna beware the devil woman.
She's got reachard bells in the kingdom of my.
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there on the web of course at cc radio dot carl the John A. Keele, arguably the world's foremost researcher into the paranormal, has traveled extensively to over 40 countries, investigating the unknown for almost 50 years.
His voracious curiosity manifested early.
He read everything, particularly science, travel, humor, and magic.
When 12, he had one of his first brushes with the paranormal, an attic poltergeist that responded to his knocking.
Huh, we'll ask about that.
By the time he was 14, he was renting space, writing a column for the Perry Herald, publishing the school paper, and contributing to magazines.
Oh, my, at 16, he was publishing a science fiction magazine.
A fanzine, actually.
The Lunarite, I believe it is, and had sold a piece to the New Yorker.
In the 1950s, he worked for the Department of the Army as Chief of Continuity and Production for the American Forces Network, AFN in Frankfurt.
That's Germany.
In 1952, wrote and produced the radio program Things in the Sky about unidentified flying objects that was heard by millions throughout Europe.
Author now of 30 books since Jadou, Jadu, I guess, his 1957 autobiography.
Keel's groundbreaking books have been published in over 20 countries and include many of Ufology's most acclaimed titles, Operation Trojan Horse, Our Haunted Planet, and the Mothman Prophecies.
His incredible Mothman investigations are the subject of a major motion picture starring a Keel-inspired character played by Richard Gere, all slated to be released on January 25th.
That in most time zones would be today.
Keele has written articles that have appeared in many leading periodicals, including Playboy, Saga, Fate.
His monthly Beyond the Known column is a popular Fate feature.
John was recently the subject of Secrets of the Shadow World.
Oh, my, what a title.
A feature-length documentary acclaimed by Acclaim director, George Trugar, who premiered at Lincoln Center in New York City.
His extensive television appearances include Johnny Carson, Jack Parr, Hugh Downs, David Letterman.
Lauren Coleman called, got through, actually, just before you were to come on the air here.
That wasn't a planned thing.
He just got through.
And I admitted to him, and I'm going to admit the same thing to you.
All of these years that I've done the paranormal and things about the paranormal, I've traveled a lot of different paths, but the only thing I've known about Mothman was an occasional caller who would reference Mothman.
And I'd always say, well, I don't know a lot about it.
And anyone who saw this was usually horrified and terrified and traumatized by it.
And I, over a period of that year, I collected over 100 reports from people who seemed very sincere and very frightened by what had ever happened to them.
This thing had sort of hypnotic powers that people would be transfixed when they saw it.
And then the year climaxed with the collapse of a bridge with a lot of people on it.
And while I was in Beckley, I was having lunch with the editor of the newspaper in Beckley, and the story came over the wire that four young people had seen this tall winged creature in Point Pleasant, outside of Point Pleasant, in an area that was known as the TNT area.
Before we even get any farther, can I ask you, how does one get a job doing what you did, chasing, I mean, being able to say, listen, editor, I'm on a plane for this winged cat.
How do you get a job where you get to do those kind of stories?
Well, you know, today, though, there's some recent really interesting scientific literature about plasma balls.
Now, these plasma balls apparently defy conventional physics in that they are able to maintain the energy that generates them and, in fact, even increase it while standing in the atmosphere.
So that's all I know, but I know that science has determined that and they don't understand how it can be.
And then there were three cases during that period, not in West Virginia, but elsewhere, of people who were permanently blinded by looking at these things.
But these sightings, as I say, I saw so many of them and signaled to them, and other people were with me when I was seeing these things.
And it was a very interesting period of history, which is now almost completely forgotten because there are new generations coming up who think it's new to them.
And they see these things and think it's all brand new.
Well, it certainly cannot be a coincidence, because I don't believe in coincidences like this, that John Keel is on the program tonight and the movie just happens to be being released today.
It was all interconnected because I was going back and forth to Point Pleasant frequently.
And now that's almost 1,000 miles from New York.
But as soon as I would get back from Point Pleasant, I'd have a string of messages, frantic things were happening again in Point Pleasant.
So I'd have to jump in my car and go back.
And one of the predictions that sort of built up over a period of time was that there was going to be a terrible accident on the river, the Ohio River, and that a lot of people were going to be killed.
And because the other predictions had come true, I was getting rather frantic about this because I didn't know precisely what was going to happen.
There were chemical factories along the river, and I was afraid that one of them was going to blow up.
Well, there was a lady who lived near the bridge, and she claimed that she saw two days before the disaster, she saw two men wearing low-cut shoes, you know, Oxfords, well-shined, and plaid jackets, climbing around the bridge.
She never seen anybody except workmen climbing on that bridge.
And these guys, she couldn't identify them, but they weren't wearing FBI black jackets and so on.
So Mothman, then, might have been, by imparting prophecies with his presence or its presence, whatever it was, or is, it might have been trying to warn people that danger, disaster, something horrible was about to happen?
Well, he either caused it or he was trying to convey information to us in a strange way.
And, you know, I've given it a lot of thought over the years.
My book covers that whole period in detail because I kept careful notes, and I knew that there was something bizarre going on, and I didn't know what it was.
Earlier tonight, and I'm going to have to have Keith put this up for me on my website as soon as we can do it, there was a picture of a street just about where the 9-11 disaster occurred.
Somebody who took a photograph, John, maybe you've even seen it, maybe somebody sent it to you, I don't know, of this bird just having passed, it looks like a building, and it looks like a gigantic pterodactyl.
Well, you know, some years ago, a group of farmers in the Western States held a class action suit against the government, claiming the government was doing this.
Well, a lot of people have speculated that they need animals that have been exposed in certain areas.
You know, in specific areas, they have to take samples or something.
In certain areas, a lot of people think it may be speculated, it might be environmentally some sort of environmental test that's going on because changes show up very quickly in cows, I guess.
And I think I'm about to knock your socks right off, folks.
Listen to me closely.
You heard John say charaductile earlier in connection with this disaster?
And with the Mothman.
And I would like for you to go to my website immediately, artbell.com, because the moment I heard that, I remembered this photograph that I got that still staggers me.
And if you'll just go to What's New, it will take you to the appropriate place.
It says Bird Image from 9-11 Photos question Mark and just scroll down and below John A. Keel's name, the last link says bird image in 9-11 pictures.
Now, you take a good look at this for me.
And I don't care if you're one of those people who says, Well, look, the bird was close to the camera, fine.
I don't think so.
It doesn't look that way to me at all.
Looks to me like this bird was way back by the building where the photo was snapped.
In fact, the enlargement, no matter what you think about how close or far away this bird was from the camera, looks like a pterodactyl to me.
It looks exactly like one.
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Go take a look at this.
And you tell me.
You tell me.
The moment John said that, it brought this photograph to mind.
And I had Keith bring it up.
It's under what's new right now?
Bird image from 9-11 photos.
Click on that.
And then you tell me what you're seeing, regardless of how far away you think that bird is from the camera person.
What kind of bird is that, folks?
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that Well, John, I sure wish you had a handy computer because we've sure got that photograph up here right now, and I think if you saw it, it would give you chills.
So if you can make it to a computer in the next couple of days, after you've probably slept for two or three days after doing all of these interviews, you'll eventually get to it.
How do you, I understand you have a theory about windows.
You know, I was about to say, how did these things get here?
But I was told that you've got a theory about windows, things that open temporarily, occasionally in certain places, in certain conditions, certain windows that open to a different place.
And as I mentioned, he was on just before you were.
That is a coincidence, believe it or not.
Anyway, this creature, so then this creature may well still be around and may visit the area where either horrendous events are going to occur or have occurred.
If this is all related to psychic phenomena, and I think it is.
I looked all over West Virginia for physical signs like a bird that large has got to leave spore and all kinds of traces, and it probably would need a large nest or a cave.
You know, it's going to really eventually turn everything upside down on its ear about what we believe and what can be true and what was called science fiction and just legend and myth, it may all come from somewhere.
Wouldn't it, being West Virginia, kind of in the Bible belt there, wouldn't a lot of the people who saw these things probably regard them as evil entities of some sort?
We had a rash of men in black cases, which seemed evil.
These men would arrive in black Cadillacs, and they looked, well, they had angular features and a very dusky skin, sort of like when I would carry pictures around with me of different racial groups, and they would always pick out Laplanders.
Now, I wonder, John, and I bet you wonder too, after this movie comes out, if it's a gigantic hit, I wonder what will happen to the number of reports of sightings of Mothmen suddenly.
And as you certainly know, this is also very contagious.
If somebody sees a Bigfoot going through his garbage can, reports it, very soon everybody in the neighborhood sees somebody going through their garbage can.
Regarding the pterodactyl, that I picture that I think I put up, the 911 photo, it's up on the website right now.
I'm getting a lot of reaction now.
Derek in Cincinnati says, I don't know what's in that picture.
Bird image from 911.
But that sure as hell ain't no bird.
Pardon my grammar here.
Almost looks like a flying loch nest monster to me.
Yeah, me too.
That's why I put it there.
It just hit me.
When John said what it resembled, what people say it resembled, and the tragedy that occurred there, and then 9-1-1, tragedy, the word tragedy certainly occurred.
And then that picture flashed in front of my mind, and oh man, you've got to see it.
And in those days, there was a big market for human interest stories.
And I was sometimes I would stay up all night and sleep all day because I'd be sitting in a graveyard or some dumb thing because they were seeing these lights in graveyards.
As you know, that's an old phenomenon.
And nobody has an explanation really for that either.
Because I've been interested for 30 years in a phenomenon in graveyards where the tombstones are knocked over.
Now, this sounds like not very much of anything, but the early tombstones were made to stay erect forever.
They had steel rods through their bases.
In order to knock one of these over, you'd almost need a machine because they bend the rods inside the tombstone and it breaks off.
And often, well, right here in New York City, we've had occasions where the police would go through a graveyard or around a graveyard, and then they'd come back two hours later, and 200 stones would be knocked over.
Well, you know, some years ago that was a big phenomenon in England.
And I was over there and you'd take a train through the countryside and you'd see these circles in the fields just in the middle of nowhere and nobody paying any attention to it.
Do you think that there are just these areas where these things happen?
Because these very complex crop circles, and they become, by the way, every year, including this last, more complex and more interesting and harder to figure out.
Do you think there are just areas like Great Britain where these particular things or this kind of phenomenon manifests itself?
Well, I think if you had the money to do it, you could examine this worldwide and see if these circles are following a pattern around the world, because they turn up in every country, you know.
They're finding them, John, in ice and snow and even in dirt and grass, in areas where you have to look a little more carefully because it's not as obvious.
When it knocks down wheat, it's very obvious, but they're occurring all over the place, John, all over.
But you'd have to think there would be some, I mean, a person who turns to science with a scientific mind, at least some percentage of them would say, to hell with you, this is really interesting.
There are some out there on the edge, no doubt about it, but the great majority of them seem to live in some sort of small, fearful world that I don't fully understand and doesn't seem to fit my concept of the scientific mind.
Well, have you had a lot to do, in other words, as you've investigated some of these really anomalous things, have you approached scientists?
I mean, obviously, to bolster the credibility of anything you might write, you would think you'd want to have somebody of science involved in some way?
With the Mothman thing, I was trying to find something that a scientist could look at, and I found some very odd footprints of what looked like giant dog footprints.
Really?
I couldn't get the local university in West Virginia, to do anything about it.
Really?
These were very strange footprints.
They were very, very large.
If this was a dog, it must have weighed 500 pounds.
And also, on one occasion, I found in the snow next to a road, I found one single human footprint.
So anyway, you know, toward the end of the last break, we were talking about responsibility and that when you get publicity about this kind of thing and you put it in people's minds, inevitably you are going to cause a lot of sightings and a lot of people to see the things this movie is going to bring first to the screen and then eventually to their TV screens.
And they're going to start seeing this thing John no question about it.
I I imagine they will and I also I fear for the people in West Virginia because they're going to be inundated with tourists and they're not prepared for it there's going to be first a trickle of tourists and then maybe by the end of the summer it'll be Coney Island and Point Pleasant.
Listen, I know they've been bleeding you dry, John, but I have one hour left, and I would like to take this moment to ask you whether, you know, all my guests at this point have a choice to either go to bed, if they're tired, because I know you're on the East Coast, let's see, it's almost 4 o'clock in the morning there, or if you want to stick around for one hour, you can answer questions of the audience.
I know they'd love to talk to you, but it's your choice.
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Back down to John A. Keon, just before we go to the phones, John, thinking back on everything that happened and how it happened and what happened, how has all of this affected your life?
I mean, how has it changed your life?
Something like this cannot occur without inducing a major change.
I think that those windows that you talk about, I think there are more of them lately and they're more frequent and things are getting stranger very quickly, exponentially quickly.
Yeah, back in 64, 66, I figure I was about 8 to 10 years old.
And we lived on a farm between Darlington and Schultzburg, Wisconsin.
Kind of a hilly farmland with small woods here and there.
And my father and uncle shared a driveway.
We had farms on separate sides of the valley.
And I figured I was maybe a thousand yards from my uncle's hoghouse.
Right.
And one night I was out playing in the yard, like I say, eight to ten years old, and I could have swore what I saw was a man with wings go down behind the fence on my uncle's hoghouse.
Oh, well, another thing that was interesting, probably two or three years later, my mom got interested in things like this, and she subscribed to Fate Magazine.
And lo and behold, you know, two or three years later, there I read about sightings like this of men with swing chasing cars.
I saw many meteors enter and a few bull-eyed, and they're all very distinctive, and they keep on going and they explode or they hit the ground or whatever they're going to do, but you don't mistake them for what you've described.
And I don't, as I said earlier, I don't like red eyes.
Red eyes are not good.
Now, going back, John, to whether the Mothman was giving prophecy in order to save people, or people were just sensing what was about to happen with this creature's presence, and the creature was the actual perpetrator of the event, is unknown.
But you would think that if something wanted, if it could manifest itself in any way, and it was coming to warn us, it would manifest itself in some way that would not scare us to death.
Have you given a lot of thought to written books about time and prophecy because if we can predict the future, that means the future already exists in some form.
And I think someday the scientists are going to tackle that one because the future has to be out there in some form, whether it's electronically or whatever.
But 15% of the population have the psychic ability to foretell the future.
And by all logic, it's impossible unless the future exists.
I have had one absolute premonition, absolute premonition.
It occurred immediately after I had it.
And that's it.
Only one.
Never been back since.
No matter how hard I try, I can't repeat it.
It just happened.
So you've got to be right about time.
I mean, it's one of two things.
It's either out there fixed and is simply going to happen no matter what, or we're sort of marionettes on strings, you know, acting out the whole thing down here.
And they had to build this above ground, and the big controversy was at the time they had 100 beds in there for the black people and 1,000 beds for the white people.
And this was during the period of the civil rights movement and all.
Right.
And so there was a lot of controversy about that one.
But they're everywhere.
Outside of Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, they were building one when I was there.
And you have to contemplate what sort of world it would be if all of the normal people get vaporized and the only ones to emerge from a nuclear holocaust are Our politicians who probably are to blame for the whole damn thing in the first place.
What kind of new society rising from the ashes would that be?
As I said, the advertising works, and I'm obviously going to have to see that movie as I am going to see Mothman Prophecies.
Once again, here is John A. Keel.
It is now going on 5 o'clock back in New York.
A man whose blood has been drained by doing interview after interview has spent nearly three hours with us now.
And soon the sun will be coming up where you are, John.
They've got a lot of, you know, anyway, here we go.
Better not say that.
First time caller line, you're on the air with John A. Keel.
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Yeah, I have sort of a question, I guess, for your guest tonight.
When I was about 13 years old, I was going to sleep in my bedroom, and I think I might have actually dozed off, but I woke up and I thought I saw a really, like a really huge dark figure in my room.
And I actually got out of my bed and I walked across the room, and it grabbed me, and it made this ungodly noise, and I screamed at the top of my lungs, and everybody in my house ran into my room and was, you know, wondering why I was screaming.
I mean, they were thought that somebody had broken in or something.
I mean, I was standing in the middle of the room, and it was very real, and I couldn't sleep for about a week.
I mean, it was really, it still breaks me Out to this day, and about a year later, my sister was murdered.
And it's like the day she died, actually, my mother was working, and she was working in her office, and like the front window of her office, like a dove, just flew right into it and died.
And it's like, I don't know if those things could possibly be connected, but because of those incidents, I spent many a night in cemeteries and places like that.
So I thought I would call.
I never really knew anything about the Mothman prophecies until like this week when I saw some movie stuff on TV.
I really didn't know what it was about until I started listening to your show.
Also, once, me and my friends used to walk around in the woods there.
And once we were walking around in the woods, we came up on a prairie.
There's a little farmhouse.
And all of a sudden, by the little barn there, a bonfire started up, and there was a group of people standing around it.
And three huge, luminous balls shot up into the space.
So then it freaked us out.
We ran back.
We knew where the place was, so we took our cars.
We were 17 by then.
Drove back, walked up down the driveway, and saw one man walking around the perimeter of the barn, and it had some floodlights, one floodlight on one corner.
Then that scared us, so we started running.
And when we started running, there were cars all out in the woods, and it must have been like 25 people, and they were all standing by their cars.
So we just hightailed it out of there, and as soon as we turned around, all those car lights went out.
It's just so nice to be in the presence of two such brain powers.
Something from Mr. Keel as far as time, but just a quick aside to art.
I wonder that silver bridge that went down, if only symbolically, from the right, from the correct angle, would those two red traffic lights that were left from the correct angle be those two glaring bright red eyes?
But the thing for Mr. Kyle, a dream concerning what I term as the past of the future, and that's the only way I can, you know, terminology given to it, the past of the future, because when I was there in the dream, I knew that I hadn't just moved to the future.
I had moved through the future and back to the past of that future.
And you know how you have, like the bird in the picture at the tragedy?
Yes.
The perspective, the depth perception of the bird close to or away from the camera.
Yes, but if, as in Mothman prophecies, if in your dream you dream of an event that is going to occur, and that event occurs precisely as you have dreamed, then you should be asking yourself lots of questions about the nature of time itself.
About two years ago, I moved into this house and have now left there.
But I tried to talk to you last week, Art.
I had the bad cell phone.
Anyhow, activity started in the house shortly after we moved in, but we would just hear voices every now and then, like little girl laughter, stuff like that, doors opening and shutting.
And it never really got anywhere else until just like last year that it really started picking up.
And started hearing a lot of heavy footsteps up and down the stairs, different things going on.
And I was kind of like, okay, you know, I'm not seeing anything.
So I wasn't really, you know, I thought more that, you know, something else is going on.
So it gets to this point where I start trying to figure out ways to get rid of this or whatever's going on.
And I kind of start calling this thing out.
Well, right around that time, it was like during a day, she was upstairs putting with this stairway, and that's where we seem to hear a lot of the stuff at.
And you go up the stairs from this hallway, and then you do a a 180, and you go up the stairs again, and then there's like a bedroom, and you turn, and there's like our room, and then there goes take another turn to the right you keep like circling to the right and there's a bathroom and another bedroom.
Well there's a deal where we kept all the towels at and stuff and she was putting towels away and she turned around and there was this black figure standing in the stairway looking up at her with these red eyes and I know you don't like red eyes.
But I took several shots, and then there was two that I took, one right after the other one instantly.
I'd walked over across the room in the front room and back towards we had three windows and those are the only ones in the room that the blinds were up and we counted at least six faces in the windows.
And there's something that is holding this glowing orb that is illuminating the hair on the back of her head.